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Speaker 1 (00:06):
So you've got redistricting now with the state Senate in committee,
and today will be the vote on whether or not
it gets out of committee and goes to the full House.
I'm sorry to the full Senate. Tony Katz ninety three WIBC,
Good morning. My take. First, we know redistricting is about
(00:30):
changing the congressional map in the state of Indiana. We
know that it was Texas that did this first. You
can certainly argue at the behest of President Trump changing
its lines. Then California engage in an act of retribution,
and it no longer became a story about Texas. It
became a story about states engaging in a retributive kind
(00:52):
of way. And I believe that it is imperative and
important for Indiana to do this. I don't know if
they will, and right now the odds are absolutely a
fifty to fifty and even greater. I'm not one hundred
percent sure that those in committee want it to get
out of committee. They may be trying to spare the
(01:13):
Senate from any vote that might need to take place.
I'm fifty to fifty on both parts. I'm fifty to
fifty at getting out of committee. I should say I'm
a little stronger than it gets out of committee. I'm
fifty to fifty that it passes the Senate. The idea
of Hoosiers don't want this. And look at all the
(01:36):
rallies people showed up against redistricting, and no one's showing
up for redistricting. Yeah, the people who would probably be
more in favor of redistricting also work. It's not just
a bunch of retirees that you put on a bus.
I mean, these are just facts. But as a matter
of imagery, I wouldn't do another rally in favor of redistricting.
(01:56):
Not at all, Not at all. I would simply have
the conversation. I have a political party in the Democratic
Party that, based on the New York Times admission today
that you know, they should have done more during Joe
Biden's term about immigration, but they didn't want to. They
didn't want to protect the border. They'd rather call you
(02:16):
a liar and a xenophobe. Yeah. I don't think those
people should have any more of a say in Congress.
I think they should have less of a say in Congress.
I think redistricting is valuable. You know what, I can't
tell you, Oh for that reason, by the way, for
making sure that the crowd that thinks that boys can
be girls and girls can be boys, and it's okay
(02:37):
to chemically and surgically mutilate children under the guise of
gender affirming BS. Yeah, I don't let them have any
power whatsoever. You know this can backfire, right I do.
I'm fully aware this can absolutely backfire. Yes, that's always
possible in the world of politics. Always I favor redistricting.
(03:04):
It is a legal process. It is a lawful process.
Same difference, and it can be changed if Democrats should
win the state of Indiana one there or get some
level of majority in a chamber. That's the way it
should be. It's the way it should be. There are
no fair lines. There's no such thing as a fair line.
(03:24):
It's not real. And people screaming about fairness it's all
just nonsense, ridiculousness. There's nothing fair about this. This is
a political process. And in the words of Barack Obama,
we won. So the arguments I find to be weak,
(03:46):
and the screaming of cheating and rigging I find to
be pathetic. The argument against of well, the way these
districts are drawn, it might hurt rural areas argument. That
is an interesting argument and one of the few that
(04:07):
actually does hold weight in my view. I still favor
doing it. I must admit I don't know what this
Senate is going to do, but I do know that
the arguments against about rigging and about this is beneath us,
and it's it's against against the law. It's been embarrassing
(04:28):
and shameful. It's pathetic. I think most importantly here, part
of the problem is people don't recognize that this is
about power. It's one hundred percent about power. I think
some people are embarrassed that they have it, and they're
very afraid to use it. That's a problem. Tony Katz,
(04:52):
ninety three WIBC, Good morning. Now, even if I you
had lost against Ohio State, that'd still be in the
college football playoffs, and it would mean dollars for Indiana
when it comes to those games when they're played, and
all those people who are going to fill every bar
in every restaurant to watch. Tony Katz, ninety three WIBC,
(05:16):
Good Morning. Gary Dick joins us from Inside Indiana Business
dot Com on the Twitter x at iib But let's
start where we start. It was this weekend, Gary Dick,
you had IU Louisville and basketball didn't go the way
you wanted to. Then you had IU Ohio State at
Lucas Soil Big Ten Championship going to the Hoosiers, as
(05:37):
we saw thirteen to ten over Ohio State. The question
is did the hype live up to the expectations? Did
the money flow? I think it.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
Did in a big way, Tony. As you mentioned the
hoops A game didn't go the way I you fans
had hoped in the afternoon at Gainbridge Field House, but
what an epic evening it was at Lucasoil Stateium into
Big Ten Football Championship. Heading into the weekend, Tony, the
expectation was a typical Big Ten Football championship would generate
(06:07):
twenty to twenty five million dollars in economic impact. I
think by most accounts it should certainly hit that, if
not more. This past weekend. Heading into the weekend, really
tough to find a hotel room, and most of the
hotel rooms were above what would be a typical asking
price for a first weekend or so in December. So
(06:30):
I think, by all accounts and the game certainly lived
up to the lived up to the hype. It was
a one that the cash registers for downtown restaurants, hotels, bars,
and others did quite.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
Well the going forward, Does winning change the numbers? Right,
it's still football, still an unbelievable season, But does winning
the Big Ten? Does it change the numbers in the
view of the hospitality world for what will be coming
(07:04):
in that Rose Bowl in Pasadena and all the places
in central Indiana that are just going to be packed
to the rafters. Do you see even more people attending?
Do they plan to see more people attending watch parties,
et cetera?
Speaker 2 (07:18):
Well, yeah, I USE this is a football juggernaut right now.
It is the darling of the national sports scene when
it comes to college football. To be sure, Tony and
you know, on the one hand, if I USE success
hadn't been quite as great bumping up to number one
in the country and getting a buye, they could have
potentially had a home game, which would have been big
(07:39):
impact for the playoffs. Obviously, they're going to take the
Rose Bowl any day of the week and twice on
Sunday with the way things actually played out, But the
numbers for I you in particular, are only going to
increase and in this era of name, image and likeness,
where dollars, big dollars donors coming into the effort to
(08:01):
get more players and those types of things, which is
the reality of college football now. It's going to help
that process as well.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
You've got Mark.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
Cuban, the billionaire IU alum, who has contributed it's been
reported to sports really for the first time in a
significant way. He seems to be engaged, as are others too.
So you can't underestimate that piece of the IU success
and what it means in terms of the ability to
get players and coaches and the types of things that
(08:28):
are needed to be successful in this modern era of
college football.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
Talking to Gary Nick from Inside Indiana Business dot Com
on the Twitter x at IV, You've got the story
over there about a casino. This is Northeast Indiana. Leaders
make their pitch as lawmakers consider new casino. There's no
conversation that has come up again about a casino in
Indianapolis itself. Is this the cheap money ground up or
(09:00):
is there a belief that there is a growth strategy
behind the gambling.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
Well, there are people who believe that this is an
economic driver, to be sure, And you mentioned the story
about Northeast Indiana. There was a there was a report,
a study that was done identifying a spot in northeast
Indiana and Allen County and that region of the state
as well as downtown Indianapolis as the two most likely
places for a casino to be very successful. I've been
(09:28):
talked for a long time. Union Station always comes up
in downtown Indianapolis as a place for a casino to locate.
There's been a lot of pushback as to not wanting
that type of development right in the heart of downtown Indianapolis.
We'll see where it goes, but I think increasingly you're
seeing folks come around to the idea that this could
(09:49):
be a huge revenue generator for the city, for the state.
We'll see where things play out, but certainly a lot
more interest now and again, as you mentioned the story,
Northeast Indiana making a big push as well for a
new casino.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
Would the State House see it differently in a Northeast
Indiana place, maybe they want to draw some level of
attention to versus let's say, a downtown Indianapolis where maybe
they think it'll have a negative effect on community.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
Yeah, you know, that's a great question. Tony, I don't know.
I think those dynamics would certainly come into play. And
this whole narrative of Indianapolis always getting everything you know
is very real as you get around the state, you
talk to folks around the state, and there's a very
negative connotation with that, And would a casino going to
(10:41):
Indianapolis versus another part of the state be viewed in
that light? So I don't know. I think it's I
think it's something that's a good piece of conversation to
see how that would play out. But I think that
I think the conversation is not going to go away.
I think it's here now and after being kind of
talked about in the background a little bit, really thrust
(11:01):
to the forefront right now.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
Gary Nick inside Indiana Business dot Com, Twitter x is
where you find him at. Iib Gary always a pleasure man,
Thank you. Doubt futures are up seventeen NASDAK futures up
seventy four, Tony Katz, that's me, what's going on ninety
three WIBC, Good morning, Good to be with you. Oil
(11:24):
prices still under sixty dollars a barrel. When it comes
to the West Texas creued coming out of the ground.
Fifty nine dollars and thirty seven cents is where you
are right there. The Brent crude coming in at sixty
three dollars and two cents a barrel, the tenure treasury
up four point one five one, and I am surprised
(11:46):
I already have I haven't heard yet the screaming from
President Trump to lower interest rates. There fed what's wrong
with you, Jerome Powell? I got no faith that's coming.
That is a jump up, right. They're the thirty year
fixed right now, holding at six point two seven. Expect
that to change. Expect that number to climb. And gold
(12:09):
prices talking about a hedge against inflation. Precious metals back
to forty two hundred dollars an ounce on the gold,
and the silver is at fifty eight dollars an ounce. Listen,
if silver is going to crack sixty, which is possible,
I can't tell you probable, but I didn't think it
(12:29):
was going to crack fifty five. I thought we had
seen it. This is crazy. This whole economic insanity is
just crazy, and it's I don't see it changing anytime soon.
(12:50):
I don't see any resolution to Hey, where's is economy?
Really going. I have stated that I think we've got
a few months ahead of us of just rough. You know,
we've seen that the holiday season so far had a
large spend on Black Friday, more on the luxury side,
(13:10):
So people bought less, but they bought higher quality on
an anecdotal side. I love that. I love the idea
that people buy less but they buy better. And I'm
not saying specifically to brand. I'm discussing when I say
better for me, equality, which can be to brand. But
(13:31):
I don't know if that means they've done their buying
and now they're done for the rest of the holiday season.
That was my concern. I think that as as tariff
costs play in, I think you see more issues that come.
You certainly have seen the layoff conversation, and the layoff
conversation I think is getting misrepresented. One point one million layoffs,
(13:57):
one point one million layoffs, and people look at that
and say, ah, Trump's economy, it's doing terrible. No, no, no,
that's the wrong look. The proper approach is to say
what would be causing such things? What changes are taking place?
(14:19):
And some of the changes involve AI changes. You could
say that they're taking jobs and people are shetting jobs
because they're more reliant on the AI. Do I think
it's a mistake, Yes, but that's not the point. It
doesn't also include the billions of dollars being invested into AI.
(14:39):
So there's a lot of ways it's looked at. But yes,
you're going to lose jobs that people believe they can
rely on the technology and don't need the people. And
if you say to me, well, that's Trump's fault. First,
are you a level of protectionist that says we now
need to make sure we don't use AI to keep
those jobs? That's number one. Number two, you invested in
(15:04):
those AI stocks. What are you complaining about? Right, there's
another part of it there. I don't think things start
to turn until you see the shovels hit the ground
and the money get invested from these trade deals that
the White House wants to hide. I'm still there. My
(15:28):
argument is the second it happens off to the races
and I watching watching this market watch, which I admit,
right the Dow was at forty eight thousand and asdacs
of twenty five thousand numbers are insane. What is the
thing that's going to show that that's going to happen.
(15:49):
What is the indicator we can look to to see
when that takes place. That's what I'm looking for, not
what someone guesses. What do we believe is to the
best of our ability based on research. Once you see this,
maybe it's precious metals going down. Precious metals go down
because there's a belief that the inflation won't come because
now we're seeing the investment take place and growth happen
(16:11):
in other places in a controlled way. I don't have
the answer just yet. I do believe we've got quite
a few months of headache and heartache ahead of us
until these trade deals come through with actual dollars in
people's pockets, shovels in grounds, building something. I think Trump's
(16:34):
got have a hard time selling an economic message, and
he does have parts of it to sell, and they
should do a better job of it. But the announcements
of a million plus layoffs, I think that could be
explained away. Tony Katz ninety three WIBC. Good Morning, It's
Redemption Monday. I have no idea get this. That's ninety
(17:00):
three WIBC. Good morning, good to be with you. It's
time to play America's favorite game. What the heck is
that television theme song? Here's how we play our game.
Producer Carl has selected a television theme song from yesteryear.
I have to guess what that theme song is. On
Monday's we play Redemption Monday. It's a song I've already missed.
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I'm supposed to somehow remember, and then he gives me
a chance to redeem myself. So far, Redemption Monday has
turned into a total disaster for me. I have no
no Now I can use the chat room over there,
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chat room to help, or I can phone in front
of Matt Bear and I'll do that just to waste time.
Matt Bear in the WIBC trapping center. What is this
television theme song?
Speaker 3 (17:53):
That's America's next top model, Tony.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
That stuff like it? Like it a lot. I have
no I have no idea. Even the chat room didn't
get it. No, no one knows what this is. I
don't think. I mean, it could be game show. I
don't remember it. It is so completely non memorable. I'm
gonna go with card Sharks. I have no idea. What
(18:22):
is this theme song? SCTV JO I know, I know
g gen Levy, It's John Candy, it's Dave Thomas, it's
Rick Moranism. Anytime I don't know something Canadian and angel
gets its wings, that's my That's what I would also
say if I was Canadian. By the way, did you
(18:46):
see the the new couple Katie Perry and former Prime
Minister Justin Trudeau now officially a couple. I'm putting out
photos on Instagram and they say people don't like same sex? Ridiculous?
What no I get ruling. I don't think I was
the first person to come up with that joke, but.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
Dagg it, Oh gosh, Orlando Bloom to Justin Trudeau, Katy Perry,
take a bow.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
That's that's uh, that's fallen down. That's stepping, that's stepping
a little lower from lego loss to hey, who wants
to play legos? That's the step in the wrong direction.
(19:50):
Coming up on Tony Kats today, that is, at noon,
we will take a look at the scandal in evolving
UH Somali immigrants and refue gees and theft in Minneapolis
and those people who absolutely covered it up. Then we'll
take a look at who is this suspected pipe bomber
(20:13):
back on January fifth, twenty twenty one, and why it
is we can't get a more complete story, although the
good people over there at Legal Insurrection, latest Democrat hoax
explodes within twenty four hours. Yeah, there's a there's a
story here about how people want to confuse purposefully because
(20:38):
Lord forbid the real story get out, Which brings us
back to how is it possible that we did not
know who this guy was? How is it possible? And
you start to realize that it was impossible, and you
wonder exactly what it is a government is willing to
(21:00):
do when it's led by people who aren't interested in
the rule of law nor America's best interest, which is
exactly how we should be looking at immigration. We should
be talking about the idea of what is it to
be an American? What is it that we value, what
is it that we do here, how do we view
things and wanting people who want to be a part
(21:22):
of that and not wanting people who don't want to
be a part of that. We have a big enough
issue dealing with what universities have pumped out into society,
and then we have to have a very honest conversation
about people who come from Islamic nations. You have to
take a look at Europe and say do you want this,
(21:43):
And the answer is no, because we're not talking about
a religion here, talking about a political system here, and
that conversation, some people say is insulting and xenophobic and bigoted.
Blah blah blah blah blah. I bring data, I bring receipts,
(22:04):
I bring Afghan nationals who get into shootouts with police.
I bring you the entirety of the immigration issue, whether
it's in the UK, or whether it's in Germany, or
whether it's in France. I bring you yet another Christmas
market where somebody drove through it. I'll wait to get
(22:25):
that data. I'll wait to find out. If we are
not willing to say we want immigrants, we are fools.
We should want we want them to be a part
of American society, not think that where they came from
(22:48):
was better and proactively worked in destroying the nation they
came to that opened their arms to them. And by
the way, open our arms is welcome. Here's a check.
That's not open arms. That's tom foolery. That's a bad idea.
(23:10):
But I posted about assimilation and oh some very silly people.
Tony Katz doesn't want Saint Patrick's Day because he doesn't
believe in being Irish American. I believe that there are
people who come from an Irish ancestry, they come their
family came from Ireland. If they live in the United
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States and their American citizens, they're Americans. It's the hyphen
that's the problem. The division is the problem. Not that
people have a history and a story and yes, a
culture from which they come that they want to be
a part of their lives mixed into American society, not
separated from or trying to dominate. To think that that
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So you've got redistricting now with the state Senate in committee,
and today will be the vote on whether or not
it gets out of committee and goes to the full House.
I'm sorry to the full Senate. Tony Katz ninety three WIBC,
Good morning. My take. First, we know redistricting is about
(00:30):
changing the congressional map in the state of Indiana. We
know that it was Texas that did this first. You
can certainly argue at the behest of President Trump changing
its lines. Then California engage in an act of retribution,
and it no longer became a story about Texas. It
became a story about states engaging in a retributive kind
(00:52):
of way. And I believe that it is imperative and
important for Indiana to do this. I don't know if
they will, and right now the odds are absolutely a
fifty to fifty and even greater. I'm not one hundred
percent sure that those in committee want it to get
out of committee. They may be trying to spare the
(01:13):
Senate from any vote that might need to take place.
I'm fifty to fifty on both parts. I'm fifty to
fifty at getting out of committee. I should say I'm
a little stronger than it gets out of committee. I'm
fifty to fifty that it passes the Senate. The idea
of Hoosiers don't want this. And look at all the
(01:36):
rallies people showed up against redistricting, and no one's showing
up for redistricting. Yeah, the people who would probably be
more in favor of redistricting also work. It's not just
a bunch of retirees that you put on a bus.
I mean, these are just facts. But as a matter
of imagery, I wouldn't do another rally in favor of redistricting.
(01:56):
Not at all, Not at all. I would simply have
the conversation. I have a political party in the Democratic
Party that, based on the New York Times admission today
that you know, they should have done more during Joe
Biden's term about immigration, but they didn't want to. They
didn't want to protect the border. They'd rather call you
(02:16):
a liar and a xenophobe. Yeah. I don't think those
people should have any more of a say in Congress.
I think they should have less of a say in Congress.
I think redistricting is valuable. You know what, I can't
tell you, Oh for that reason, by the way, for
making sure that the crowd that thinks that boys can
be girls and girls can be boys, and it's okay
(02:37):
to chemically and surgically mutilate children under the guise of
gender affirming BS. Yeah, I don't let them have any
power whatsoever. You know this can backfire, right I do.
I'm fully aware this can absolutely backfire. Yes, that's always
possible in the world of politics. Always I favor redistricting.
(03:04):
It is a legal process. It is a lawful process.
Same difference, and it can be changed if Democrats should
win the state of Indiana one there or get some
level of majority in a chamber. That's the way it
should be. It's the way it should be. There are
no fair lines. There's no such thing as a fair line.
(03:24):
It's not real. And people screaming about fairness it's all
just nonsense, ridiculousness. There's nothing fair about this. This is
a political process. And in the words of Barack Obama,
we won. So the arguments I find to be weak,
(03:46):
and the screaming of cheating and rigging I find to
be pathetic. The argument against of well, the way these
districts are drawn, it might hurt rural areas argument. That
is an interesting argument and one of the few that
(04:07):
actually does hold weight in my view. I still favor
doing it. I must admit I don't know what this
Senate is going to do, but I do know that
the arguments against about rigging and about this is beneath us,
and it's it's against against the law. It's been embarrassing
(04:28):
and shameful. It's pathetic. I think most importantly here, part
of the problem is people don't recognize that this is
about power. It's one hundred percent about power. I think
some people are embarrassed that they have it, and they're
very afraid to use it. That's a problem. Tony Katz,
(04:52):
ninety three WIBC, Good morning. Now, even if I you
had lost against Ohio State, that'd still be in the
college football playoffs, and it would mean dollars for Indiana
when it comes to those games when they're played, and
all those people who are going to fill every bar
in every restaurant to watch. Tony Katz, ninety three WIBC,
(05:16):
Good Morning. Gary Dick joins us from Inside Indiana Business
dot Com on the Twitter x at iib But let's
start where we start. It was this weekend, Gary Dick,
you had IU Louisville and basketball didn't go the way
you wanted to. Then you had IU Ohio State at
Lucas Soil Big Ten Championship going to the Hoosiers, as
(05:37):
we saw thirteen to ten over Ohio State. The question
is did the hype live up to the expectations? Did
the money flow? I think it.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
Did in a big way, Tony. As you mentioned the
hoops A game didn't go the way I you fans
had hoped in the afternoon at Gainbridge Field House, but
what an epic evening it was at Lucasoil Stateium into
Big Ten Football Championship. Heading into the weekend, Tony, the
expectation was a typical Big Ten Football championship would generate
(06:07):
twenty to twenty five million dollars in economic impact. I
think by most accounts it should certainly hit that, if
not more. This past weekend. Heading into the weekend, really
tough to find a hotel room, and most of the
hotel rooms were above what would be a typical asking
price for a first weekend or so in December. So
(06:30):
I think, by all accounts and the game certainly lived
up to the lived up to the hype. It was
a one that the cash registers for downtown restaurants, hotels, bars,
and others did quite.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
Well the going forward, Does winning change the numbers? Right,
it's still football, still an unbelievable season, But does winning
the Big Ten? Does it change the numbers in the
view of the hospitality world for what will be coming
(07:04):
in that Rose Bowl in Pasadena and all the places
in central Indiana that are just going to be packed
to the rafters. Do you see even more people attending?
Do they plan to see more people attending watch parties,
et cetera?
Speaker 2 (07:18):
Well, yeah, I USE this is a football juggernaut right now.
It is the darling of the national sports scene when
it comes to college football. To be sure, Tony and
you know, on the one hand, if I USE success
hadn't been quite as great bumping up to number one
in the country and getting a buye, they could have
potentially had a home game, which would have been big
(07:39):
impact for the playoffs. Obviously, they're going to take the
Rose Bowl any day of the week and twice on
Sunday with the way things actually played out, But the
numbers for I you in particular, are only going to
increase and in this era of name, image and likeness,
where dollars, big dollars donors coming into the effort to
(08:01):
get more players and those types of things, which is
the reality of college football now. It's going to help
that process as well.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
You've got Mark.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
Cuban, the billionaire IU alum, who has contributed it's been
reported to sports really for the first time in a
significant way. He seems to be engaged, as are others too.
So you can't underestimate that piece of the IU success
and what it means in terms of the ability to
get players and coaches and the types of things that
(08:28):
are needed to be successful in this modern era of
college football.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
Talking to Gary Nick from Inside Indiana Business dot Com
on the Twitter x at IV, You've got the story
over there about a casino. This is Northeast Indiana. Leaders
make their pitch as lawmakers consider new casino. There's no
conversation that has come up again about a casino in
Indianapolis itself. Is this the cheap money ground up or
(09:00):
is there a belief that there is a growth strategy
behind the gambling.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
Well, there are people who believe that this is an
economic driver, to be sure, And you mentioned the story
about Northeast Indiana. There was a there was a report,
a study that was done identifying a spot in northeast
Indiana and Allen County and that region of the state
as well as downtown Indianapolis as the two most likely
places for a casino to be very successful. I've been
(09:28):
talked for a long time. Union Station always comes up
in downtown Indianapolis as a place for a casino to locate.
There's been a lot of pushback as to not wanting
that type of development right in the heart of downtown Indianapolis.
We'll see where it goes, but I think increasingly you're
seeing folks come around to the idea that this could
(09:49):
be a huge revenue generator for the city, for the state.
We'll see where things play out, but certainly a lot
more interest now and again, as you mentioned the story,
Northeast Indiana making a big push as well for a
new casino.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
Would the State House see it differently in a Northeast
Indiana place, maybe they want to draw some level of
attention to versus let's say, a downtown Indianapolis where maybe
they think it'll have a negative effect on community.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
Yeah, you know, that's a great question. Tony, I don't know.
I think those dynamics would certainly come into play. And
this whole narrative of Indianapolis always getting everything you know
is very real as you get around the state, you
talk to folks around the state, and there's a very
negative connotation with that, And would a casino going to
(10:41):
Indianapolis versus another part of the state be viewed in
that light? So I don't know. I think it's I
think it's something that's a good piece of conversation to
see how that would play out. But I think that
I think the conversation is not going to go away.
I think it's here now and after being kind of
talked about in the background a little bit, really thrust
(11:01):
to the forefront right now.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
Gary Nick inside Indiana Business dot Com, Twitter x is
where you find him at. Iib Gary always a pleasure man,
Thank you. Doubt futures are up seventeen NASDAK futures up
seventy four, Tony Katz, that's me, what's going on ninety
three WIBC, Good morning, Good to be with you. Oil
(11:24):
prices still under sixty dollars a barrel. When it comes
to the West Texas creued coming out of the ground.
Fifty nine dollars and thirty seven cents is where you
are right there. The Brent crude coming in at sixty
three dollars and two cents a barrel, the tenure treasury
up four point one five one, and I am surprised
(11:46):
I already have I haven't heard yet the screaming from
President Trump to lower interest rates. There fed what's wrong
with you, Jerome Powell? I got no faith that's coming.
That is a jump up, right. They're the thirty year
fixed right now, holding at six point two seven. Expect
that to change. Expect that number to climb. And gold
(12:09):
prices talking about a hedge against inflation. Precious metals back
to forty two hundred dollars an ounce on the gold,
and the silver is at fifty eight dollars an ounce. Listen,
if silver is going to crack sixty, which is possible,
I can't tell you probable, but I didn't think it
(12:29):
was going to crack fifty five. I thought we had
seen it. This is crazy. This whole economic insanity is
just crazy, and it's I don't see it changing anytime soon.
(12:50):
I don't see any resolution to Hey, where's is economy?
Really going. I have stated that I think we've got
a few months ahead of us of just rough. You know,
we've seen that the holiday season so far had a
large spend on Black Friday, more on the luxury side,
(13:10):
So people bought less, but they bought higher quality on
an anecdotal side. I love that. I love the idea
that people buy less but they buy better. And I'm
not saying specifically to brand. I'm discussing when I say
better for me, equality, which can be to brand. But
(13:31):
I don't know if that means they've done their buying
and now they're done for the rest of the holiday season.
That was my concern. I think that as as tariff
costs play in, I think you see more issues that come.
You certainly have seen the layoff conversation, and the layoff
conversation I think is getting misrepresented. One point one million layoffs,
(13:57):
one point one million layoffs, and people look at that
and say, ah, Trump's economy, it's doing terrible. No, no, no,
that's the wrong look. The proper approach is to say
what would be causing such things? What changes are taking place?
(14:19):
And some of the changes involve AI changes. You could
say that they're taking jobs and people are shetting jobs
because they're more reliant on the AI. Do I think
it's a mistake, Yes, but that's not the point. It
doesn't also include the billions of dollars being invested into AI.
(14:39):
So there's a lot of ways it's looked at. But yes,
you're going to lose jobs that people believe they can
rely on the technology and don't need the people. And
if you say to me, well, that's Trump's fault. First,
are you a level of protectionist that says we now
need to make sure we don't use AI to keep
those jobs? That's number one. Number two, you invested in
(15:04):
those AI stocks. What are you complaining about? Right, there's
another part of it there. I don't think things start
to turn until you see the shovels hit the ground
and the money get invested from these trade deals that
the White House wants to hide. I'm still there. My
(15:28):
argument is the second it happens off to the races
and I watching watching this market watch, which I admit,
right the Dow was at forty eight thousand and asdacs
of twenty five thousand numbers are insane. What is the
thing that's going to show that that's going to happen.
(15:49):
What is the indicator we can look to to see
when that takes place. That's what I'm looking for, not
what someone guesses. What do we believe is to the
best of our ability based on research. Once you see this,
maybe it's precious metals going down. Precious metals go down
because there's a belief that the inflation won't come because
now we're seeing the investment take place and growth happen
(16:11):
in other places in a controlled way. I don't have
the answer just yet. I do believe we've got quite
a few months of headache and heartache ahead of us
until these trade deals come through with actual dollars in
people's pockets, shovels in grounds, building something. I think Trump's
(16:34):
got have a hard time selling an economic message, and
he does have parts of it to sell, and they
should do a better job of it. But the announcements
of a million plus layoffs, I think that could be
explained away. Tony Katz ninety three WIBC. Good Morning, It's
Redemption Monday. I have no idea get this. That's ninety
(17:00):
three WIBC. Good morning, good to be with you. It's
time to play America's favorite game. What the heck is
that television theme song? Here's how we play our game.
Producer Carl has selected a television theme song from yesteryear.
I have to guess what that theme song is. On
Monday's we play Redemption Monday. It's a song I've already missed.
(17:22):
I'm supposed to somehow remember, and then he gives me
a chance to redeem myself. So far, Redemption Monday has
turned into a total disaster for me. I have no
no Now I can use the chat room over there,
YouTube dot com, slash Tony Kats. I can use the
(17:42):
chat room to help, or I can phone in front
of Matt Bear and I'll do that just to waste time.
Matt Bear in the WIBC trapping center. What is this
television theme song?
Speaker 3 (17:53):
That's America's next top model, Tony.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
That stuff like it? Like it a lot. I have
no I have no idea. Even the chat room didn't
get it. No, no one knows what this is. I
don't think. I mean, it could be game show. I
don't remember it. It is so completely non memorable. I'm
gonna go with card Sharks. I have no idea. What
(18:22):
is this theme song? SCTV JO I know, I know
g gen Levy, It's John Candy, it's Dave Thomas, it's
Rick Moranism. Anytime I don't know something Canadian and angel
gets its wings, that's my That's what I would also
say if I was Canadian. By the way, did you
(18:46):
see the the new couple Katie Perry and former Prime
Minister Justin Trudeau now officially a couple. I'm putting out
photos on Instagram and they say people don't like same sex? Ridiculous?
What no I get ruling. I don't think I was
the first person to come up with that joke, but.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
Dagg it, Oh gosh, Orlando Bloom to Justin Trudeau, Katy Perry,
take a bow.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
That's that's uh, that's fallen down. That's stepping, that's stepping
a little lower from lego loss to hey, who wants
to play legos? That's the step in the wrong direction.
(19:50):
Coming up on Tony Kats today, that is, at noon,
we will take a look at the scandal in evolving
UH Somali immigrants and refue gees and theft in Minneapolis
and those people who absolutely covered it up. Then we'll
take a look at who is this suspected pipe bomber
(20:13):
back on January fifth, twenty twenty one, and why it
is we can't get a more complete story, although the
good people over there at Legal Insurrection, latest Democrat hoax
explodes within twenty four hours. Yeah, there's a there's a
story here about how people want to confuse purposefully because
(20:38):
Lord forbid the real story get out, Which brings us
back to how is it possible that we did not
know who this guy was? How is it possible? And
you start to realize that it was impossible, and you
wonder exactly what it is a government is willing to
(21:00):
do when it's led by people who aren't interested in
the rule of law nor America's best interest, which is
exactly how we should be looking at immigration. We should
be talking about the idea of what is it to
be an American? What is it that we value, what
is it that we do here, how do we view
things and wanting people who want to be a part
(21:22):
of that and not wanting people who don't want to
be a part of that. We have a big enough
issue dealing with what universities have pumped out into society,
and then we have to have a very honest conversation
about people who come from Islamic nations. You have to
take a look at Europe and say do you want this,
(21:43):
And the answer is no, because we're not talking about
a religion here, talking about a political system here, and
that conversation, some people say is insulting and xenophobic and bigoted.
Blah blah blah blah blah. I bring data, I bring receipts,
(22:04):
I bring Afghan nationals who get into shootouts with police.
I bring you the entirety of the immigration issue, whether
it's in the UK, or whether it's in Germany, or
whether it's in France. I bring you yet another Christmas
market where somebody drove through it. I'll wait to get
(22:25):
that data. I'll wait to find out. If we are
not willing to say we want immigrants, we are fools.
We should want we want them to be a part
of American society, not think that where they came from
(22:48):
was better and proactively worked in destroying the nation they
came to that opened their arms to them. And by
the way, open our arms is welcome. Here's a check.
That's not open arms. That's tom foolery. That's a bad idea.
(23:10):
But I posted about assimilation and oh some very silly people.
Tony Katz doesn't want Saint Patrick's Day because he doesn't
believe in being Irish American. I believe that there are
people who come from an Irish ancestry, they come their
family came from Ireland. If they live in the United
(23:32):
States and their American citizens, they're Americans. It's the hyphen
that's the problem. The division is the problem. Not that
people have a history and a story and yes, a
culture from which they come that they want to be
a part of their lives mixed into American society, not
separated from or trying to dominate. To think that that
(23:57):
is an issue, with all due respect the people who
think that's an issue, they're the issue. They're the issue. Now.
As for us, we only have one job getting together
on January twenty fourth, Trump one year later, a red
tie gala, the bourbon, the food, and you. It's gonna
be incredible. Tickets dot Tonycats dot com. Tickets dot Tonycats
(24:20):
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That's right, you're gonna dress up, the food, the bourbon,
the last live music. It's gonna be amazing. Join us.
(24:43):
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(25:03):
red tie gallum. Matt Bear will be there in a
red tie. Well, I don't know about that. I didn't
say you were going to be in anything else.
Speaker 3 (25:12):
Okay, Yeah, I'm in.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
Yeah, definitely, Matt Bear will be there in a red tie. Yes.
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