Tony Katz and the Morning News Full Show 12-8-25

Coach Steichen has lost the locker room. IU is the #1 team in America. Ilhan Omar calls Stephen Miller a white supremacist and makes a Nazi comparison. Jews playing Christmas tunes. How Biden Ignored Warnings and Lost Americans’ Faith in Immigration

JMV talks Hoosier Big 10 championship and Daniel Jones injury. MTG on 60 minutes. Antique travel, coffee maker. You can’t have assimilation into American culture if everyone wants to talk about only where they are from.

There are indeed risks to the GOP by redistricting. Big 10 Championship brings big money to Indianapolis. Over 1 million layed off in 2025, Check out the beautiful same-sex couple

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Scattered snow, colder with a high of thirty.

Speaker 2 (00:03):
That's it.

Speaker 3 (00:06):
That's it, you, Tony thirty degrees. Shut up on Marcus Baalley.

Speaker 2 (00:14):
Okay, it's kind of it like it.

Speaker 3 (00:17):
Was very short and sweet, and I don't have time
to mess around with you cats today.

Speaker 2 (00:21):
I've got very important things going on.

Speaker 4 (00:24):
Oh it's it's the opposite, Tony. I don't want to
interfere in your program. Like you have a lot to say,
more important things than I have to say, you know
what I mean?

Speaker 2 (00:34):
Well, I don't know. Maybe maybe the problem is you're
not saying enough things. I mean, I could keep going
if you want me to. He Marcus.

Speaker 5 (00:41):
Tell him about Saturday.

Speaker 2 (00:43):
Wait, what about Saturday?

Speaker 5 (00:44):
How cold it's going to get?

Speaker 3 (00:46):
Carl?

Speaker 2 (00:47):
Jeez, it's Carl looking for a reason.

Speaker 3 (00:53):
He wanted to hit the Yeah, you know what, Marcus,
I think we'll lend it right here.

Speaker 2 (00:58):
Okay, very good, got bearing you all from Carl's mind.
That's right, Thank you, Marcus.

Speaker 3 (01:09):
Twenty one degrees in the American Standard Heating Weather Center
the time at six oh seven, I'm saying that Shane Steichen.

Speaker 2 (01:36):
Has lost the locker room. Oh, don't get me wrong.

Speaker 3 (01:39):
The injury to Daniel Jones is terrible and I feel
for that guy in ways I cannot explain. Tony Katz
ninety three WIBC, Good morning, going down with the Achilles,
because that's what happens in Indianapolis. You've got your team
on the precipice of immortality.

Speaker 2 (02:00):
Boom.

Speaker 3 (02:01):
You don't have an Achilles anymore, which is oddly enough right.

Speaker 2 (02:05):
The Achilles heel is our Achilles heel. My gosh, the
gods are laughing. Did I say hello? Tony Katz ninety
three WIBC. Just awful, just.

Speaker 3 (02:17):
Awful for him and that score. Jaguars thirty six, Colts nineteen.

Speaker 2 (02:23):
No longer control of the AFC South.

Speaker 3 (02:26):
And the way the Texans are playing after they beat
Kansas City last night.

Speaker 2 (02:32):
Yeah, I put.

Speaker 3 (02:34):
Forth to you that Steichen has lost the locker room.
Now I can be proven wrong on this. We'll talk
to JMV at seven oh six to break this down.
And as for you, who's your fans?

Speaker 2 (02:49):
I you with the win.

Speaker 3 (02:53):
Over Ohio State, number one team in college football, the
number one seed, they've got the bye they will take
on the winner of Alabama or Oklahoma. I have no
proper context for how you feel I have no proper
context for what it is to be that long suffering

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as a fan to have never seen this possibility ever
to get close, to have ideas to be like, ooh,
maybe this time it is different, This time it is different.
And I do agree with the sentiment that what Kurt
Signetti has done in two years with a program, with

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this football program, this is unbelievable. And when he writes
the book about leadership, it will be the best selling
book for years to come.

Speaker 2 (03:48):
He is very close to l Ron Hubbard's.

Speaker 3 (03:51):
Status in Indiana. And that, hold on, that's not a compliment.
I ask Tom Cruise, I don't know what to tell you.
Nuts onbelievable.

Speaker 2 (04:02):
For what they call themselves a ragtag group.

Speaker 3 (04:05):
Man, it's some good stuff for what should have been
an offensive battle. Incredible incredible defense and now some rest.

Speaker 2 (04:15):
And while we're on the subject to Notre Dame, which.

Speaker 3 (04:17):
Got left out of the college football playoffs and decided
we're not even gonna play a bowl game.

Speaker 2 (04:23):
We're done this season. Thank you.

Speaker 3 (04:26):
You're right, absolutely, positively, in my view, every way right
to tell the NCAA we're not interested. No no, no,
no, no no, no, we don't need this Alabama and Miami
and not US.

Speaker 2 (04:42):
Yes, I know about the tie break, but seriously, you're right,
love love love the move mad.

Speaker 3 (04:50):
Respect well played the scandal in Somalia.

Speaker 2 (04:56):
Nope, it's not in Somalia.

Speaker 3 (04:57):
It's right here in the United States. Another stabbing in
Charlotte and redistricting. I got to give you some thoughts
about whether or not this thing makes it through committee.
That's all coming up next. Tony Katz ninety three WIBC,
Good morning.

Speaker 6 (05:13):
I want to ask you something else that the architect
of the president's immigration policy, Stephen Miller, said on Thanksgiving Day,
he posted, no magic transformation occurs when failed state's cross
borders at scale, migrants and their descendants recreate the conditions
and terrors of their broken homelands. What do you make
of this argument of failure to assimilate and sort of

(05:35):
ruining America? How do you understand this?

Speaker 7 (05:39):
I mean, when I think about Stephen Miller and his
white separatist rhetoric, it reminds me. Yes, it reminds me
of the way the Nazis described Jewish people.

Speaker 3 (05:51):
At that moment, CBS should have ended the interview and
said Representative Vilhana mar you're an unseerious person.

Speaker 2 (05:56):
Goodbye. You're calling Stephen Miller a white was just to
get ready for that lawsuit.

Speaker 3 (06:03):
But you in a conversation of trying to defend what
has taken place in Minneapolis, to which you yourself may very
well be connected.

Speaker 2 (06:13):
Well, this is how the Nazis were treated. Stop it.

Speaker 3 (06:16):
Tony Katz in ninety three WIBC, good morning, good to
be with you.

Speaker 2 (06:21):
If you ask me if I.

Speaker 3 (06:22):
Think President Trump should be saying to a group of people,
you're all criminals because you all come from the same
place and you're not welcome.

Speaker 2 (06:31):
No, I don't think that's the answer.

Speaker 3 (06:35):
Are we going to notice that a city that has
been very open to Somali nationals has absolutely, in many ways,
based on every bit of reporting to which there has
been no pushback, has shown that to be true that
you allowed people who weren't from the United States to bat,
not just badger, full on attack you in order to
take millions of not billions of dollars in fraud, whether

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be about COVID or other subjects, lying about children having
autism to get dollars, and very possibly this kind of
scam is going on in places that it actually skews
the numbers of children we have in America who are autistic.
We might be at that level a group of people,

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not every person who said to the Minnesota government, if
you stop the gravy train from flowing, we'll call you racist.
And Tim Walls and his counterparts were such outrageous cowards
that they didn't stop it. They were afraid of being
called racist. People who support elanomr are problem. And if

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you aren't willing to push back against this and say
we don't talk like that here.

Speaker 2 (07:51):
You think it's wrong with President Trump.

Speaker 3 (07:53):
Said, but you think this is okay, We're not having
this stop, Well that's the shame of Margaret Brennan right
there on face the nation.

Speaker 2 (08:03):
This Somali scandal.

Speaker 3 (08:07):
Is massive, and I think people are going to be
offended that I refer to it as a Somali scandal.

Speaker 2 (08:14):
It is what it is, what it is.

Speaker 3 (08:18):
The problem is not everybody who's from Somalia is guilty.
Not everybody who's from Somalia has come here illegally. And
I'm not even saying that when it comes to the
scandal that these people came here illegally. But this does

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engage a larger conversation about culture, to which I've had
some people question a video that I put out. I
put out the short and I put the larger context.
What in the world is American culture?

Speaker 2 (08:51):
Tony?

Speaker 3 (08:51):
Oh, holy heck, we're doing this. I'm happy to I'm
happy to go down the road with everyone because I
stated that at first, one of the things that affects
America is the idea of hyphenization. If you are an
African American, Colombian, American, Irish American, Jewish, American.

Speaker 2 (09:11):
This, that, and the other, the hyphen.

Speaker 3 (09:16):
Keeps America from coming together. It keeps us from engaging
in assimilation. You could say it is the melting pot.
And therefore I have people saying Tony doesn't believe in
Saint Patrick's Day. Well, never mind whether I do or
I don't. You think I'm going to stop a bar
from selling corn, beef and the cabbage. Do you really
think I could stop twenty two year olds from drinking
green beer and thinking they're cool?

Speaker 2 (09:37):
I can't. It's going to happen.

Speaker 3 (09:39):
It happened before I was here, It's gonna happen well
after I was here.

Speaker 2 (09:44):
But I am going to note not that we can't.

Speaker 3 (09:48):
Have Saint Patrick's Day, or note that people come from Ireland,
or note a level of Irish heritage or Irish neighborhoods.
That's all good and fine and well. The question is
how do you see yourself? If you see yourself as Mexican,
American and non American.

Speaker 2 (10:07):
That's an issue. It's a problem because there is no US.

Speaker 3 (10:14):
There's only these little groups and instead of melting pot,
the analogy usually is you get fruit, salad, everything in
its own separate silo. That's not the value that America offers.

Speaker 2 (10:27):
And to say that there is no American culture, I can.

Speaker 3 (10:31):
Start with some basics, like the idea of the individual.
Europe doesn't ride like that.

Speaker 2 (10:41):
The individualism is a huge part of who we are now.

Speaker 3 (10:48):
Could I be at times confusing culture and political system. Maybe,
and that's a good conversation, But that brings us back
to these Somali nationals, to these people, and whether or
not there is in the main the ability to be
a part of American culture if the foundational principle is Islam,

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because Islam is not a religion, Islam is a political system.

Speaker 2 (11:21):
Maybe that gets.

Speaker 3 (11:22):
More to the point, but I don't believe it would
absolutely apply to everyone.

Speaker 2 (11:29):
The scandal applies to a lot of people. This stealing of.

Speaker 3 (11:35):
What could possibly be upwards of eight billion dollars.

Speaker 2 (11:43):
Here's our finding.

Speaker 8 (11:43):
In Minnesota is growing by the day.

Speaker 9 (11:46):
Kelly Leffler, who leads the Small Business Administration, says, in
the two days her agency has been investigating the state,
they've uncovered at least a million dollars in PPP fraud
just two days in. Several of the whistleblowers in Minnesota
have also told lawmakers they believe the total amount of
fraud could total up to more than eight billion dollars.

Speaker 3 (12:09):
That reporting from Fox News. So what happened, well, what
happened was was that they made claims did people in
Minnesota that they were feeding the hungry during COVID and
they were feeding eighteen thousand children a day. So give
us this money that you're handing out like so much candy,

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and we're going to feed these children.

Speaker 2 (12:34):
They never fed the children and never happened. It was
a lot the money was used to buy homes and
cars and things like that. And then there was.

Speaker 3 (12:44):
Reporting, although I think we're still waiting on confirmation on
the reporting that the money went back to Somalia and
may very well have arrived in the hands of Al Shabab,
which is a terrorist organization. People involved in the scandal
include Congresswoman Ilhan Omar and the Attorney General of Minnesota,

(13:08):
Keith Ellison. Now to what extent is it more than
just tangentle That's what the investigations have to find out,
the lieing, the deceit, the fraud, and when this was
first discovered, because remember this investigation started under the Biden administration,
under that Attorney General Merrick Garland. But when in Minnesota

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they first started seeing that these numbers don't add up,
they receive notification from these groups headed up by these
Somali refugees, Somali migrants, et cetera. One group called Feeding
Our Future saying if you don't support and if you
don't approve this group, that group, the other group, we're

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going to.

Speaker 2 (13:51):
Call you racists.

Speaker 3 (13:52):
They wrote it down, and the people in Minnesota in
these leadership positions caved. Governor Tim Walls because they didn't
want to be called racist. Dear lord, kids, we're through
the looking glass on that one. The scandal is huge
and it really does tell a story, and some people

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are gonna be very upset if you ask questions, Well,
if you don't ask questions.

Speaker 2 (14:19):
You end up with the New York Times.

Speaker 3 (14:21):
Oh you don't know that story, don't worry, I will
bring it to you. Plus, the Indiana Senate meets today.

Speaker 2 (14:27):
I've got that as well.

Speaker 3 (14:28):
So the Senate will meet, the Indiana State Senate the
committee about redisseerting.

Speaker 2 (14:33):
Will the legislation make it out of committee? That's the
serious question ahead of us.

Speaker 3 (14:39):
The New York Times is about, I don't know, nine
hundred years too late with its admission, which is why
these so called media outlets.

Speaker 2 (14:48):
Are not to be trusted.

Speaker 3 (14:51):
And then you've got Dan Parker, who led the charge
against the India eleven having an MLS team in Indianapolis.

Speaker 2 (15:00):
He is walking away from Joe hogset Man. It is
a busy morning.

Speaker 3 (15:04):
Tony Katz ninety three WIBC, Good morning, Good to be
with you.

Speaker 2 (15:08):
You know, we often talk with the world as crazy,
but we don't have to be.

Speaker 3 (15:11):
But I have decided that while we've got the Thursday
music moment, we could bring a little bit of this
to Christmas, because it's Christmas and people should be celebrating
and enjoying and having a good time and feeling good,
and that's why I bring you from Me to you.

Speaker 2 (15:31):
Around this time.

Speaker 3 (15:32):
Every day, Jews playing Christmas tunes, Juice.

Speaker 10 (15:39):
Playing Christmas Dude, but strings and bells. It's a holly
jolly night. So turn that radio left. It's totally into
the groups.

Speaker 11 (15:55):
Guy Joe playing Christmas tools.

Speaker 2 (16:03):
We're rocking this season, Miss Sugar, try and get that
on ZPL. Smiley's a really nice guy too.

Speaker 3 (16:23):
I went to nineteen fifty eight because I thought that
was a good year. Johnny Marks is the writer of
this song, a Jewish man, but Brenda Lee is Brenda
Lee and.

Speaker 2 (16:36):
It's a classic.

Speaker 3 (16:37):
It's a classic for the Christmas season. It made home alone,
complete rocking around the Christmas Tree.

Speaker 2 (16:44):
Brenda Lee producer Carl hit it. I don't know.

Speaker 3 (16:47):
I have yet to figure out whether people like this
or not, or they're trying to figure out what's wrong
with me. I'm just I'm just here to have a
good time. I'm here for the good time people. I'm
glad you're here too. Matt Bear has got traffic.

Speaker 2 (17:04):
On the fives. We will get to that.

Speaker 3 (17:06):
This New York Times story, what's going on in Hogsheads administration,
It's all coming up. So here's three things going on
that you should know, Tony Katz, good to be with you.
I do not give them in any particular order. I
let you decide their order. The New York Times has
a story. And you say to me, Tony, why are

(17:26):
you bringing me a New York Times story.

Speaker 2 (17:27):
I thought you loved us, I thought you cared I do.
Don't ever question that.

Speaker 3 (17:32):
Just because I didn't Tucky in last night doesn't mean
that I didn't wish your sweet dreams. And look, I'm
here with you this morning, and that should mean something too.
How Biden ignored warnings and lost American's faith in immigration.

Speaker 2 (17:46):
That's the headline for the New York Times.

Speaker 3 (17:49):
And the story is the Democratic president and his top
advisors rejected recommendations that could have eased the border crisis
that helped return Donald Trump to the White House. So
now and a story that was written on December seventh,
twenty twenty five, five full years after we all knew

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it was a problem. See, I mean, you could say
four years, but go with me now You're gonna be like,
oh man, Well, we all knew it was an issue.
We just decided to do nothing about it. We decided
to call Americans liars. We decided to call those ranchers
down in Texas who were losing livestock, who were dealing
with rampid crime, who are losing their lives. We decided

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to ignore those people and call them just bigots and xenophobes.
Instead of dealing with the problem that was affecting all
of America, we decided to tell America.

Speaker 2 (18:48):
That they had to pass ridiculous legislation.

Speaker 3 (18:50):
Joe Biden by Marine one, begging just give me the
power when he had.

Speaker 2 (18:56):
It the entire time.

Speaker 3 (19:00):
This kind of story, This is why people have an
issue voting for the Democratic Party and should And if
you ask me why I favor redistricting, this is one
of the many, many reasons I favor in Indiana, I
favored across the country. Kenna have a backlash, Well, of course,

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could it fail in its attempt?

Speaker 2 (19:24):
Absolutely?

Speaker 3 (19:26):
You want me to elect more people to a political
party that weren't willing to admit that the border was
an issue. And Rhan Henry Quahar said the borders an issue.
The Democratic Party dropped him. Oh, and then there was
the allegation of the criminality, and then there was the
case and Trump just pardoned him, and now he's running
back as a Democrat.

Speaker 2 (19:45):
And Trump's upset with him.

Speaker 3 (19:47):
Mister President, you're the one who tells the story of
the snake. What did you expect from Henry Quaar?

Speaker 2 (19:54):
He just happens to be right on the border.

Speaker 3 (19:56):
The Democratic Party lied four years and Alejandra Majorcis, the
former secretary Permlandsecurity, told us everything was fine. It was
never fine. We all knew it, and they lied repeatedly. No,
I don't believe in sending more of those people back
to power. Well, Tony, they're all liars. Great, well, now

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you don't have a working government. I don't play in
the anarchy game. I have to deal with my realities,
Thank you very much. This leads us to a story
number two about the new representative of Congress from Arizona,
Adelita Grihova, who is the granddaughter or the daughter the
daughter of the late rou Grahava, who is also the

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congressman of this district. So now it's a family business.
Like Andre Carson in Indianapolis, she claims she got pepper
sprayed during an immigration raid.

Speaker 2 (20:49):
That's not what happened.

Speaker 3 (20:51):
She was there ice Immigration's Customers Enforcement was doing its job.
Somebody else got sprayed and she got the effects.

Speaker 2 (21:01):
She was not pushed, She was not sprayed.

Speaker 3 (21:04):
She stated, Ice just conducted a raid by Taco Ghiro
in Tucson, a small mom and Papa restaurant that has
served our community for years. When I presented myself as
a member of Congress asking for more information, I was
pushed aside and pepper sprayed. That isn't what happened. Homeland
Security is pushing back. That's an absolute.

Speaker 2 (21:25):
Lie, a lie.

Speaker 3 (21:27):
Writing did the DHS Assistant Secretary at Tritia McLaughlin.

Speaker 2 (21:32):
If her claims were true, this would be a medical marvel.

Speaker 3 (21:35):
But they're not true. She wasn't pepper sprayed. She was
in the vicinity of someone who was pepper sprayed as
they were obstructing an assaulting law enforcement, which she is
a member of Congress, watched happen, and wasn't bothered by
the manipulation as opposed to the honesty.

Speaker 2 (21:54):
If you have people in the.

Speaker 3 (21:55):
Country illegally, they don't get to stay. If you have
people in the country legally, they do get to stay
unless there's some other extenuating circumstance. Do I believe in
asking people for their papers absolutely not.

Speaker 2 (22:07):
I would fight that tooth and now.

Speaker 3 (22:10):
But in the cases where we know people are here
illegally and you have an issue with it, to you,
Representative Garhalva, to anybody, no America's allowed to hold the standard.

Speaker 2 (22:22):
And as the show's ended last.

Speaker 3 (22:24):
Week, the arrest of this guy who is the alleged
pipe bomber in DC, I'm still waiting for more data
and more information going back to January fifth, twenty twenty one,
the day before January sixth, and these pipe bombs were
found RNC DNC and who was it?

Speaker 2 (22:42):
Why did it take five years to find this guy?
And now you find.

Speaker 3 (22:46):
Out that this guy has a history of anti Trump.

Speaker 2 (22:50):
Oh no, no, wait, he's a Trump supporter.

Speaker 3 (22:51):
And everybody's trying to spin so they can set a
narrative now so they can keep everybody else from knowing
what the real story here is. I'm gonna wait for
a little bit more of the story, but I'm glad
there's an arrest. I'm glad the FBI actually did their
job on this one. And wonder why it didn't happen
years ago. That's my three things right now. I you

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the number one team in college football, a bye week,
before Pasadena to then hopefully play for the National Championship.

Speaker 2 (23:31):
Meanwhile, the Colts. I've got my take.

Speaker 3 (23:34):
Tony Katz ninety three WIBC, Good Morning, jamb joins us.

Speaker 2 (23:38):
He is the voice of sports in Indiana on ninety
three five seven to five of the Fan.

Speaker 3 (23:43):
Before we get to EU, let's talk about the Colts.
I texted you and I said, Shane Steiken has lost
the locker room.

Speaker 2 (23:52):
The question is, am I writer? Am I wrong?

Speaker 4 (23:55):
Well, by the way, Tony brought to you by Oldie
Smith's Plumbing three on.

Speaker 1 (24:00):
Age six lbsmith.

Speaker 4 (24:01):
Plumbing dot Com. I don't think you're completely wrong, but
as I told you in my response, I thought that
the Steelers over a month ago pulled back to curtain
on this team at the time, even when they had
a greater level of health, and kind of showed the
rest of the league that this is what you do
to get to them. And I think where you're right, Tony,
is this this team this season again, even with better health,

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not now, but with better health. They've proven they can
play when they're on easy street, when they're in rhythm,
when there's not a bumpy ride, but when the road
gets rough, they go away.

Speaker 2 (24:36):
Now.

Speaker 4 (24:36):
I don't know if that is entirely quitting on the coach,
but obviously they've taken on the personality of something that
once things start to get tough, they really struggle at it.
And I'm talking about the offensive line. I'm talking about
the defensive lines, where you need to be tough and
you need to overcome. They have just shown us they're
incapable of doing just that. And now obviously the injuries situations, Tony,

(25:01):
they're done eight and five and it's over.

Speaker 2 (25:05):
It's brutal.

Speaker 3 (25:06):
I feel for Daniel Jones in ways I cannot comprehend.
It's an Achilles issue, which is, you know, the Achilles
heel of Indianapolis sports. This is just this has become
a refrain that's just too ugly for words. Finally finds
his place, finally finds his rhythm as a guy who
can manage a team, make smart decisions, not make mistakes.

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And it's very obvious it wasn't just last week, it
was the week before that as well. He has been
dealing with this injury that has affected everything.

Speaker 2 (25:36):
And the Colts didn't come clean with everybody.

Speaker 4 (25:39):
No, they didn't know and obviously didn't protect him and
I don't think the Colts did, nor the coach put
him in situations that obviously made it worse. And then
yesterday we saw the outcome of all that. Here, I'll
flip the script on you. Would you sign him to
an instead of related deal because he's a one year
guy and he's going to be a free agent. I
signed him to an instead of type of deal and

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keep him around until he overcomes this particular injury at
some point next year because all these questions you and
I are going to go through here relatively soon about
how this team is going to be made up, because
they're in the worst spot of all time for an
NFL team where they where they currently reside as far
as record injuries and mortgaging the future on the Sauce

(26:24):
Gardner deal.

Speaker 3 (26:26):
Yeah, so Sauce Gardner goes down, Daniel Jones.

Speaker 2 (26:30):
Goes down, and.

Speaker 3 (26:33):
You know, some things you can't control, but attitude is
something you can control. And if those guys won't, meaning
Shane Steiken, who I've always liked, and Ballard, who I've
never liked, I expect the new CEO, the new head
of this team to make the changes that are necessary

(26:55):
in that place there's a lot of good components. We've
shown that they can play, but someone has to be
able to shepherd them through.

Speaker 2 (27:02):
The hard time with absolute belief.

Speaker 3 (27:03):
Talking to JMV the Voice of Sports in Indiana, your
IU Hoosiers defeating Ohio thirteen.

Speaker 2 (27:11):
What's that?

Speaker 4 (27:12):
I never thought I would see this before, Tony. It's
so odd we're having this conversation, but so enjoyable.

Speaker 3 (27:18):
Thirteen to ten over Ohio State, and any time it
was it Ryan Day loses and I'm like, I do
not know what it is about looking at him. That
is just a little awkward. But to me, it strikes
me as a little awkward that you take the victory,
even as coach Signetti said, I'll take luck, certainly. But

(27:40):
now you look at the college football playoffs, you take
a look at taking on either Alabama or Oklahoma. Who
would you rather play in the Rose Bowl?

Speaker 4 (27:49):
Probably Alabama the way with they saw them look against
Georgia in the SEC Championship game. I will tell you this, Tony,
I never thought I would see an IU team like
we saw on Saturday to They matched and overcame the
physicality of Ohio State that has always been an issue
to the last thirty matchups, you know, just getting swamped

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or overpowered or out toughed by Ohio State. They matched
and overcame that That to me is the overall difference.
And the other thing Kritzignetti identified last year in Columbus
what he needed to do to be competitive with Ohio
State and went out and did it on both sides
of the football up front, and that was a parent

(28:31):
and one of the big reasons why they were able
to overcome and get to where they are right now
because a long time are you football fans out there?

Speaker 2 (28:38):
They deserve this.

Speaker 4 (28:39):
It was an incredible environment and really Bema to me
would be the choice. Really, I don't think anybody cares
because this has been such an unexpected dream type of
ride for who's your football fans out there? Really is incredible,
and so is their head coach.

Speaker 3 (28:56):
When it comes to the possibility of national championship, who
do you see is are you going to make it there?

Speaker 2 (29:03):
And who do you see them playing?

Speaker 5 (29:06):
Well?

Speaker 4 (29:06):
I will say this, I think ultimately Ohio Face will
be back in the mix they were a year ago.
They don't have to be you know, the number one
overall seed, uh to make it. I mean it's going
to be tough, there's no doubt about that. But I
will say this also, Tony, I think Notre Dame not
being involved probably helped out everybody else in a bracket
because they were arguably playing as well, if not better

(29:27):
than anybody out there, and they were kind of left
out of this damn kind of they were left out
of this particular dance.

Speaker 3 (29:32):
To that point, Notre Dame saying, you know what, we're
not playing a ball game. We're done, thanks, goodbye. I
love this decision. I love the Maxie. I love saying
to the NCAA forget you and your sister too.

Speaker 4 (29:44):
What do you say, Well, they destroyed the entire bowl system.
It's already been destroyed, Tony, don't get me wrong, but
they destroyed it with that particular decision. And yeah, it
makes it makes sense to me why you'd want to
go in. I will say this, if I'm an NFL
player going to the next level, why would I want
to act around with a game like that when we
got left out when clearly we should have been in.

(30:05):
I mean, I know that it's kind of a Poudy
act to do, but I think sometimes it's necessary, necessary
to take that particular stand and you know how many
of their guys would have probably opted out anyway, considering
their standing and the upcoming NFL drafts. So yeah, it
probably does make more sense than it does it in
this case. And I can understand why some feelings are
hurt in South Bend and around because they definitely deserve.

Speaker 5 (30:28):
To be involved.

Speaker 2 (30:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (30:29):
I don't think it's actually taken as Poudy maybe, but
maybe Skip Bayless will think so, but what does he know.
I think everybody else says absolutely this is the right move.
There are futures to consider, including the future of Notre Dame,
and this position will be taken as one of pride
and of stronger and I think it's going to help
them in magnitudes in the long run.

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Speaker 2 (32:36):
I was trying to figure.

Speaker 3 (32:37):
Out which way we were gonna go uh this morning,
and I decided, why not a little Marjorie Taylor Green,
Because if you want to waste time on the program
sixty minutes UH, she's the one.

Speaker 2 (32:55):
That you're going to talk to. And they did. They
had the good.

Speaker 3 (33:00):
People there at sixty minutes interviewing Marjorie Taylor Green. Not
that Marjorie Taylor Green has anything new to say, but
Marjorie Taylor Green is resigning from Congress two days after
the new Congress has sworn in, obstensibly to get her pension.

Speaker 2 (33:16):
I don't really know the reasons.

Speaker 3 (33:18):
And she's now a thorn in the side of Trump,
so therefore she's acceptable to CBS.

Speaker 2 (33:25):
But you know, we've got all.

Speaker 3 (33:26):
This toxic rhetoric out there, and Leslie Stall wants.

Speaker 2 (33:30):
Marjorie Taylor Green to know it's all.

Speaker 12 (33:32):
Her fault and the toxic politics.

Speaker 13 (33:37):
But it became clear to us that she hasn't entirely
lost her appetite for combat.

Speaker 12 (33:43):
It's the most toxic political culture and it's not helping
the America.

Speaker 8 (33:49):
But you contributed to that.

Speaker 13 (33:51):
You you were out there pounding, insulting people.

Speaker 12 (33:55):
Leslie, You've contributed to it as well with your yes,
your accusatory, just like.

Speaker 8 (34:00):
You did just then. I know you're accusing me, but
I'm smarty, amazing me. I am acute. But we don't
have to accuse one another.

Speaker 13 (34:08):
I want you to respond to what you have done
in terms of insulting people, yelling at people, and then
saying I'd.

Speaker 8 (34:16):
Like for you to respond for that. I don't know
you can respond.

Speaker 12 (34:19):
I've done, and so you do, and the way you
question and you are, you're accusing me right now?

Speaker 3 (34:28):
For CBS, Barry Wise, Hey, Tony Katz, how are you?

Speaker 2 (34:33):
We've never met?

Speaker 3 (34:34):
I'm talking like we've met before.

Speaker 2 (34:38):
Why'd you have her on?

Speaker 3 (34:40):
You know they're going to do a town hall over
at CBS with Erica Kirk and man. People are angry.
I can't believe Barry Wise is doing this? Why not
so a woman who has been pushing to this Guys
after the assassination of her husband. Charlie Kirk, you've got
all of these insane conspiracy freak show things going on.

Speaker 2 (34:59):
Well, she work to have her husband murdered.

Speaker 3 (35:02):
And you say to me, well, Candace Owens never said
such a thing. You want a two part of Candace Owens. Okay,
her words, not mine, Here you go.

Speaker 14 (35:12):
Of course, I certainly didn't suspect Turning Point USA would be,
as I believe, involved in a cover up. And we
can talk about what the motives are of that. They
could be financial modes that he doesn't necessarily mean they
were involved in plotting to kill them, and I've never
said that. So in theory, cam Higbee, who is laughing
off the idea of an assassination attempt is being paid

(35:32):
by the very organization that just had its leader assassinated
in broad daylight in front of the entire world.

Speaker 3 (35:38):
That's Candace Owens at one moment saying I'm not accusing
Turning Point USA, and another moment saying I'm absolutely accusing
Turning Point USSA.

Speaker 2 (35:46):
I am not interested in her.

Speaker 3 (35:47):
I am not a fan of hers, and I can't
believe people actually follow her, And I've had people.

Speaker 2 (35:52):
Push back on me on social media. I don't care.

Speaker 3 (35:56):
That's how is that not to your here something where
you say that person can't be trusted, can't be trusted?

Speaker 2 (36:04):
Goodbye. So having Erica.

Speaker 3 (36:09):
Kirk on CBS, I get what's the point of having
Marjorie Taylor Green on for this? What was the point
of this? Do you think Leslie Stall is gonna learn
how complicit media was in lying to America about COVID
and lying to America about the hunter byon laptop and
lying to America about a host of things, the constant

(36:30):
continual fraud. Why do you think CBS Barry Weiss is
now at the helm, not Leslie Stall. More work needs
to be done there to turn the ship. And hey,
this is a large ship and it's not going to
turn overnight. And I'm not getting on Barry Weiss's case
about that. It's that anybody who thought that Marjorie Taylor

(36:53):
Green was going to be a worthy.

Speaker 2 (36:54):
Interview was a fool. You knew exactly what you were getting.

Speaker 3 (37:00):
Exactly today on the marketplace, I won't talk about what
I've been looking for. I will talk about what I
have found. And in this case, who actually trust that
coffeemaker in the hotel room.

Speaker 5 (37:13):
You met Bear Absolutely not.

Speaker 2 (37:17):
Tony Katz ninety three WIBC. Good morning.

Speaker 3 (37:20):
During downtime, clearing my head, I find myself on Facebook marketplace.
Cool stuff outs up, weird, so strange stuff, all sorts
of stuff is on the marketplace. I bring it to
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I'll get into what I've been looking for in a moment.
And I don't know how this has come to me,
but like now, I can't stop thinking about it. But

(38:03):
I was perusing the Facebook marketplace and I came across
an antique travel coffee maker.

Speaker 5 (38:10):
Oh cool.

Speaker 2 (38:11):
You know. You go to the hotel and then they've
got the coffee.

Speaker 3 (38:14):
Maker there in the room and you're like, I have
no idea what somebody may have done with that coffeemaker.

Speaker 11 (38:19):
There used to be days where there weren't coffee makers
in our hotel rooms, Tony, Right, there.

Speaker 2 (38:24):
Were tell us about those days. Map back.

Speaker 11 (38:27):
You had to go make your own coffee. You had
to go right down to the wadfle house, sit down
and order some megs and get your coffee. And then
you kind of had to slide the cup into your
wife's purse and sneak out with it, and then you
could have coffee anytime you want it.

Speaker 3 (38:39):
Hold on in your version you first of all, in
your version you're married.

Speaker 5 (38:49):
No, no, sadly, no, I'm not making things up. I'm
not making it up. I used to. I think I
saw mom and.

Speaker 11 (38:54):
Dad do it one of their moves, and you know,
you just kind of slide that in the mom's person.

Speaker 7 (38:59):
Boom.

Speaker 5 (38:59):
That's what I meant. I'd never lie about being married.

Speaker 15 (39:02):
No, no, okay, this is you making with coffee right here, right?

Speaker 5 (39:15):
Is that what's going on? I'm making coffee.

Speaker 3 (39:17):
Trying to be very coldestined, but it's not working. Okay,
we get it.

Speaker 2 (39:23):
Just crew, well, never mind your whole fantasy thing right there,
it's hard to trust.

Speaker 3 (39:31):
And this is an antique travel coffee maker, so it's
a percolator version.

Speaker 2 (39:37):
It's got two coffee mugs and.

Speaker 3 (39:38):
It has the can opener so you can open the
actual can of coffee.

Speaker 5 (39:42):
Oh no, it's good. Thank god. I've been looking for
one of those.

Speaker 3 (39:46):
And it comes in a Hardshell carry case. It's a
freaking suitcase for your coffee maker.

Speaker 11 (39:51):
Yeah, it looks like something very professional. You could walk
into a board meeting and then woomb, you're making coffee.

Speaker 5 (39:56):
Everybody they're like, what we got to promote him? It
looks like case. It carries the nuclear codes, yes, except you.

Speaker 3 (40:03):
How can you hit the nuclear code if you're not awake?
Turn your chie sir, thus the coffee, turn your.

Speaker 2 (40:09):
Key, turn your war games.

Speaker 5 (40:12):
I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry, hard key.

Speaker 2 (40:19):
That's really good.

Speaker 3 (40:22):
Oh you know what, sometimes Matt Bear makes us proud.

Speaker 2 (40:26):
Sometimes not Matt Bear.

Speaker 3 (40:29):
You can have this antique travel coffee maker for twenty bucks.

Speaker 5 (40:32):
You went anyway out, just twenty bucks. That's easy. Yeah,
I'll regive that, bad boy.

Speaker 2 (40:36):
Yeah, you have to clean up the dust.

Speaker 3 (40:40):
It's it should be in a museum, like that's where
it should be people be like, oh my gosh, I
remember those, and then grandparents would be talking to their
kids and being able to engage with them, and the
kids will be looking at their phones and going, that's
great mem and that'll be good times we had.

Speaker 5 (40:58):
Looks like it smells like gasoline.

Speaker 3 (41:02):
Why no, no, this this coffee maker looks fine. The
case does not. The case looks like you'd rather drink
out of one of those hotel coffeemakers. That's what looks like.

Speaker 5 (41:14):
Oh it's wired up.

Speaker 11 (41:15):
It's a wired case, and that's not mean you where
you gonna get to electricity. I have a lot of
questions about these.

Speaker 2 (41:21):
You just bring it with you. It's just in your luggage.

Speaker 5 (41:24):
Oh it has Wi Fi?

Speaker 2 (41:26):
Yeah, yeah, right, it's Wi Fi.

Speaker 3 (41:28):
So so first of all, we'll have this listed at
WBC dot com.

Speaker 2 (41:31):
You know what I've been looking at, Matt Bear.

Speaker 5 (41:32):
What's that?

Speaker 3 (41:35):
I You know, sometimes I get myself into a thing
like I should get another car and I shouldn't, but
I get I.

Speaker 2 (41:41):
I look conversion vans.

Speaker 11 (41:44):
Oh okay, so you put somebody in the van and
then you can make them whatever religion you want.

Speaker 3 (41:51):
Close, Okay, I'm talking about the luxury vans with the
plush leather seats and the TVs and everything shags seats.

Speaker 2 (42:00):
Maybe right, I think I could be that guy. I'm
starting to think I could be that guy. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (42:06):
Man, My mother had one, get that bad boy eighteen van.

Speaker 2 (42:09):
My mother, Diane had a conversion van. Cool.

Speaker 3 (42:13):
Yeah, And every and every now and then she'd be like,
I love it and the seats are so comfortable, and
you know, it has a bed in the back. And
then she'd go and I was like, why, Diane, why
do you do this?

Speaker 5 (42:26):
What do you have to laugh like that around me?

Speaker 7 (42:28):
Ma?

Speaker 3 (42:30):
And then she'd look at my dad and give him
a wink, and I'd be like, I need a.

Speaker 5 (42:36):
Shower, yeah, or shut right?

Speaker 3 (42:39):
But I could get I could get away with conversion van,
couldn't I.

Speaker 11 (42:42):
I don't even know what a conversion van looks like.
Is it like the big eighteen van? Is that what
I'm thinking?

Speaker 2 (42:47):
You know?

Speaker 3 (42:48):
Yes, it's like the eighteen van, but with plush leather
seats and no no mohawks.

Speaker 5 (42:53):
This is a big van.

Speaker 3 (42:55):
Yeah, I'm talking about I'm talking about like eating gasoline
and laughing at him.

Speaker 11 (43:00):
Our mentalists, well, you're never gonna get through a roundabout
in this thing, you're gonna have to go.

Speaker 2 (43:03):
I'm gonna drive right through the roundabout. Ye know, you're
gonna even care straight through it, right through it.

Speaker 5 (43:09):
But you're do in style.

Speaker 2 (43:11):
Yeah. Oh the style of my middle sticks are huge.

Speaker 5 (43:14):
How big is your garage?

Speaker 2 (43:15):
Man?

Speaker 5 (43:16):
You can't fit this in the garage.

Speaker 2 (43:17):
Build another garage.

Speaker 5 (43:20):
They're caving on my way in Hamilton County.

Speaker 3 (43:22):
That damn straight. You know what my problem is. I
don't have a three car garage. And everybody else in
Carl looks at me and goes, oh, for you.

Speaker 5 (43:31):
They're having a fundraiser a food drive for Tony right now.

Speaker 2 (43:34):
And then people on the west side go three car garage. Oh,
that's quaint. That's that's what happens.

Speaker 5 (43:39):
In card ktting my neighbor's loan right now.

Speaker 3 (43:41):
Right So anyway, that's what I'm looking at. So if
you've got a good conversion van, let me know. And uh,
if you want to buy map Bear coffee maker, he's
up for that as well.

Speaker 2 (43:49):
Tony Katz ninety three w IBC, Good morning.

Speaker 3 (43:53):
If we are to agree that that is true that
the American left has no belief in assimilation, and we
can see this in a myriad of ways. For example,
the hyphenization of America. What the bloody heck is African American, Mexican, American, Colombian, American,
Irish American, There's American.

Speaker 2 (44:12):
And that's it.

Speaker 3 (44:13):
The hyphen is an absolute problem because it creates separation
as opposed to assimilation. You would think that I said
go out there and kick a puppy, but I didn't
say that. I discussed a problem that I've discussed for years,
the absolute failure in today's America of assimilation actually being

(44:41):
something that we strive for. Tony Katz ninety three WIBC,
Good Morning, Good to be with you. I put this
short out there as part of a larger video, and
here was the response. Tony Katz wants to close the
rat Skeller.

Speaker 2 (44:59):
You can't. You can't argue with insanity, now, can you?

Speaker 7 (45:04):
So?

Speaker 3 (45:04):
No Chris Kindlemarket, no Saint Patrick's Day, no Sinco de Mayo,
no Italian Fest.

Speaker 2 (45:09):
We're the melting pot of the world. Use xenophobic moron.

Speaker 3 (45:13):
I want to be the melting pot that isn't what's happening.
We can be grown ups about this, or you can
be name callers about it, but it won't change anything
if you're a name caller. The fundamental problem, amongst many
fundamental problems, is that if we discuss the idea of
being a country of immigrants, if we discuss the idea

(45:36):
of wanting legal immigration, which I do, and I'm on
the record, it has to be people who want America
and the American way of life, which can be defined
or said differently as American culture, which I would agree
is not always easy to define.

Speaker 2 (45:54):
We need to be able to say these things.

Speaker 3 (45:58):
We need to be able to look at those people
who want to be Americans and want to be a
part of what we do here, and those people who
think that where they came from is better than where
they are and want to do away with what we
have here, which does describe a lot of what we
have seen in Minneapolis.

Speaker 2 (46:17):
Again, I will.

Speaker 3 (46:18):
Say, as I did earlier today, you cannot say all
Somali's bad.

Speaker 2 (46:24):
That's a nutty thing to say.

Speaker 3 (46:27):
You can discuss those people involved in the criminal acts
that took place in Minneapolis and the stealing of millions
of not billions of dollars.

Speaker 2 (46:39):
That's my take.

Speaker 3 (46:42):
But as a matter of course, when we take a
look at people, we allow to come into the United States.
We must be a nation that takes a second look,
in a more stringent look at people who come from
Islamic nations, because Islamic nations they treat not as a
religion Islam, but as a political system that goes against
our political system and simply does away with what the

(47:06):
American way, certainly of individualism, certainly, of free speech, certainly
a freedom of religion. Absolutely, there is no doubt or
debate here. So why are we having it because it's
bigoted to say, it's factual to.

Speaker 2 (47:23):
Say, and that conversation's gonna happen.

Speaker 3 (47:30):
The very concept of immigration is valuable and good, and
I am the beneficiary of it. My grandparents are people
who escaped Poland.

Speaker 2 (47:42):
I am the beneficiary of this nation.

Speaker 3 (47:47):
And I am an American, by the way, not a
Jewish American. I'm not a Polish American. I'm an American.

Speaker 2 (47:56):
These are the facts. Do people who come here want
to be a part of here?

Speaker 3 (48:03):
If they don't, well, then that is a absolute factor
we should be considering as to whether or not they're
allowed into the nation. And if people we've allowed into
the country are now working to subvert that country we
should indeed do something about it.

Speaker 2 (48:21):
We should say so.

Speaker 3 (48:25):
As for the hyphen, I love a good Saint Patrick's
Day parade and celebration.

Speaker 2 (48:32):
Same thing with Italian Fest.

Speaker 3 (48:36):
They had a whole a couple of months ago now
on the circle in Indian celebration as in India, and
it was great. I cheer the food scene that we
have here in Indianapolis and the surrounding areas, all the
different places, all different cultures, it is fantastic, terrific. I

(48:58):
adore every part of it and I want more of it.
But I don't want anybody who doesn't understand that being
able to come here and open a business here and
start a life here.

Speaker 2 (49:08):
Is better than where they were. This is the.

Speaker 3 (49:12):
Dream, This is the opportunity, This is the goal, This
is the value. This is what we should be celebrating.
And people who come and say how do I take,
how do I steal? How do I subjugate, how do
I subvert? And how do I do damage? We don't
need them, we don't want them, and they have to go.
I'm going to be getting much deeper into this whole

(49:33):
idea of culture, way of life.

Speaker 2 (49:35):
And everything else. I think it's a fascinating.

Speaker 3 (49:37):
Conversation, and we need definitions. But on the hyphenization, how
am I really wrong? I don't think I am. So
You've got redistricting now with the state Senate in committee,

(49:57):
and today will be the vote on whether or not
and it gets out of committee.

Speaker 2 (50:01):
And goes to the full House. I'm sorry to the
full Senate.

Speaker 3 (50:06):
Tony Katz ninety three WIBC, Good morning.

Speaker 2 (50:12):
My take.

Speaker 3 (50:14):
First, we know redistricting is about changing the congressional map
in the state of Indiana.

Speaker 2 (50:19):
We know that it was Texas that did this first.

Speaker 3 (50:23):
You can certainly argue at the behest to President Trump
changing its lines.

Speaker 2 (50:28):
Then California engage.

Speaker 3 (50:29):
In an act of retribution and it no longer became
a story about Texas. It became a story about states
engaging in a retributive kind of way.

Speaker 2 (50:38):
And I believe that it is imperative and important for
Indiana to do this. I don't know if they will,
and right now the.

Speaker 3 (50:46):
Odds are absolutely a fifty to fifty and even greater.
I'm not one hundred percent sure that those in committee
wanted to get out of committee. They may be trying
to spare the Senate from any vote that might need
to take place. I'm fifty to fifty on both parts.

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I'm fifty to fifty at getting out of committee. I
should say I'm a little stronger than it gets out
of committee. I'm fifty to fifty that it passes the Senate.
The idea of Hoosiers don't want this. And look at
all the rallies people showed up against redistricting, and no
one's showing up for redistricting. Yeah, the people who would

(51:29):
probably be more in favor of redistricting also work. It's
not just a bunch of retirees that you put on
a bus. I mean, these are just facts. But as
a matter of imagery, I wouldn't do another rally in
favor of redistricting. Not at all, Not at all. I
would simply have the conversation. I have a political party

(51:49):
in the Democratic Party that, based on the New York
Times admission today that you know, they should have done
more during Joe Biden's term about immigration, but they didn't
want to. They didn't want to protect the border. They'd
rather call you a liar and a xenophobe.

Speaker 2 (52:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (52:04):
I don't think those people should have any more of
a say in Congress. I think they should have less
of a say in Congress. I think redistricting is valuable.
You know what, I can't tell you. Oh, for that reason,
by the way, for making sure that the crowd that
thinks that boys can be girls and girls can be
boys and it's okay to chemically and surgically mutilate children

(52:26):
under the guise of gender affirming bs. Yeah, I don't
let them have any power whatsoever. You know this can backfire,
right I do. I'm fully aware this can absolutely backfire. Yes,
that's always possible in the world of politics. Always I

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favor redistricting. It is a legal process. It is a
lawful process. Same difference, and it can be changed if
Democrats should win the state of Indiana one day or
get some level of majority in a chamber. That's the
way it should be. It's the way it should be.
There are no fair lines. There's no such thing as

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a fair line. It's not real. And people screaming about
fairness it's all just nonsense, ridiculousness. There's nothing fair about this.
This is a political process. And in the words a
Barack Obama, we won. So the arguments I find to
be weak, and the screaming of cheating and rigging I

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find to be pathetic. The argument against of well, the
way these districts are drawn, it might hurt rural areas.
That's an interesting argument. That is an interesting argument and
one of the few that actually does hold weight in
my view. I still favor doing it.

Speaker 2 (53:57):
I must admit.

Speaker 3 (54:00):
I don't know what this Senate is going to do,
but I do know that the arguments against about rigging
and about this is beneath us, and it's it's again
against the law. It's been embarrassing and shameful. It's pathetic,

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I think most importantly here, part of the problem is
people don't recognize that this is about power. It's one
hundred percent about power. I think some people are embarrassed
that they have it, and they're very afraid to use it.
That's a problem. Tony Katz, ninety three WIBC.

Speaker 2 (54:39):
Good morning.

Speaker 3 (54:41):
Now, even if I you had lost against Ohio State,
that still be in the college football playoffs, and it
would mean dollars for Indiana when it comes to those
games when they're played, and all those people who.

Speaker 2 (54:56):
Are going to fill every bar in every restaurant to watch.

Speaker 3 (54:58):
Tony Katz, ninety three, WIBC Good morning, Garydick joins us
from Inside Indiana Business dot Com on the Twitter x
at IIB. But let's start where we start. It was
this weekend, Gary Dick. You had I you Louisville and
basketball didn't go the way you wanted to. Then you
had IU Ohio State at Lucas Soil Big Ten Championship

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going to.

Speaker 2 (55:21):
The Hoosiers, as we saw thirteen to ten over Ohio State.

Speaker 3 (55:26):
The question is did the hype live up to the expectations?

Speaker 2 (55:30):
Did the money flow?

Speaker 1 (55:32):
I think it did in a big way, Tony. As
you mentioned the hoops A game didn't go the way
you fans had hoped in the afternoon at Gamebridge Fieldhouse,
but what an epic evening it was at Lucasoil Stadium
in the Big Ten Football Championship. Heading into the weekend, Tony,
the expectation was a typical Big Ten Football championship would

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generate twenty to twenty five million dollars in economic impact.
I think by most accounts it should certainly hit that,
if not more. This past weekend. Heading into the weekend,
really tough to find a hotel room, and most of
the hotel rooms were above what would be a typical
asking price for a first weekend or so in December.

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So I think, by all accounts in a game certainly
lived up to the lived up to the hype. It
was a one that the cash registers for downtown restaurants, hotels, bars,
and others did quite.

Speaker 5 (56:29):
Well the.

Speaker 2 (56:33):
Going forward. Does winning change the numbers?

Speaker 3 (56:38):
Right, it's still football, still an unbelievable season, But.

Speaker 2 (56:42):
Does winning the Big Ten?

Speaker 3 (56:43):
Does it change the numbers in the view of the
hospitality world for what will be coming in that Rose
Bowl in Pasadena and all the places in central Indiana
that are just going to be packed to the rafters?
Do you see even more people attending? Do they plan
to see more people attending watch parties, et cetera?

Speaker 2 (57:04):
Well, yeah, I.

Speaker 1 (57:05):
Use this is a football juggernaut right now. It is
the darling of the national sports scene when it comes
to college football. To be sure, Tony, and you know,
on the one hand, if I you success hadn't been
quite as great bumping up to number one in the
country and getting a buye, they could have potentially had
a home game which would have been big impact for

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the playoffs. Obviously, they're going to take the Rose Bowl
any day of the week and twice on Sunday with
the way things actually played out, But the numbers for
I you in particular, are only going to increase. And
in this era of name, image and likeness where dollars,
big dollars donors coming into the effort to get more

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players and those types of things, which is the reality
of college football now, it's going to help that process
as well. You've got Mark Cuban, the billionaire IU alum,
who has contributed, it's been reported to sports really for
the first time in a significant way. He seems to
be engaged, as are others too. So you can't underestimate

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that piece of the IU success in what it means
in terms of the ability to get players and coaches
and the types of things that are needed to be
successful in this modern era of college football.

Speaker 3 (58:19):
Talking to Gary Nick from Inside Indiana Business dot Com
on the Twitter x at IV, You've got the story
over there about a casino.

Speaker 2 (58:29):
This is Northeast Indiana.

Speaker 3 (58:31):
Leaders make their pitch as lawmakers consider new casino. There's
no conversation that has come up again about a casino
in Indianapolis itself. Is this the cheap money grab or
is there a belief that there.

Speaker 2 (58:47):
Is a growth strategy behind the gambling.

Speaker 1 (58:51):
Well, there are people who believe that this is an
economic driver to be sure. And you mentioned the story
about Northeast Indiana. There was a report, a study that
was done identifying a spot in northeast Indiana and Allen
County and that region of the state as well as
downtown Indianapolis as the two most likely places for a

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casino to be very successful. I've been talked for a
long time. Union Station always comes up in downtown Indianapolis
as a place for a casino to locate. There's been
a lot of pushback as to not wanting that type
of development right in the heart of downtown Indianapolis. We'll
see where it goes, but I think increasingly you're seeing

(59:33):
folks come around to the idea that this could be
a huge revenue generator for the city, for the state.
We'll see what if where things play out, but certainly
a lot more interest now. And again, as you mentioned
the story, Northeast Indiana making a big push as well
for a new casino.

Speaker 3 (59:50):
Would the State House see it differently in a Northeast
Indiana place. Maybe they want to draw some level of
attention to versus let's say a downtown Indiana Ali where
maybe they think it'll have a negative effect on community.

Speaker 1 (01:00:05):
Yeah, you know, that's a great question, Tony. I don't know.
I think those dynamics would certainly come into play. And
this whole narrative of Indianapolis always getting everything you know
is very real as you get around the state, you
talk to folks around the state, and there's a very
negative connotation with that. And would a casino going to

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Indianapolis versus another part of the state be viewed in
that light?

Speaker 2 (01:00:30):
So I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:00:31):
I think it's I think it's something that's a good
piece of conversation to see how that would play out.
But I think that I think the conversation is not
going to go away. I think it's it's here now,
and after being kind of talked about in the background
a little bit, really thrust to the forefront right now.

Speaker 3 (01:00:49):
Gary Nick inside Indiana Business dot Com Twitter x is
where you find him at II being Gary always a
pleasure man.

Speaker 2 (01:00:57):
Thank you.

Speaker 3 (01:00:59):
Dow futures are up seventeen, Nasdaq futures up seventy four,
Tony Katz, that's me, what's going on? Ninety three WIBC,
Good morning, good to be with you.

Speaker 2 (01:01:09):
Oil prices still.

Speaker 3 (01:01:11):
Under sixty dollars a barrel when it comes to the
west Texas creued coming out of the ground fifty nine
dollars and thirty seven cents. Is where you are right there,
the Brent crude coming in at sixty three dollars and
two cents a barrel. The ten year treasury up four
point one five one, and I am surprised I already

(01:01:33):
have I haven't heard yet the screaming from President Trump
to lower interest rates there fed what's wrong with you,
Jerome Powell?

Speaker 2 (01:01:41):
I got no faith that's coming. That is a jump
up right there.

Speaker 3 (01:01:46):
The thirty year fixed right now holding at six point
two seven. Expect that to change. Expect that number to climb.
And gold prices talking about a hedge against inflation. Precious
metals back to forty two hundred dollars an ounce on
the gold, and the silver is at fifty eight dollars

(01:02:06):
an ounce. Listen, if silver is going to crack sixty,
which is possible, I can't tell you probable, but I
didn't think it was going to crack fifty five.

Speaker 2 (01:02:17):
I thought we had seen it. This is crazy, This
whole economic insanity is just crazy.

Speaker 3 (01:02:30):
And it's I don't see it changing anytime soon. I
don't see any resolution to Hey, where's is economy really going?
I have stated that I think we've got a few
months ahead of us of just rough. You know, we've
seen that the holiday season so far had a large

(01:02:53):
spend on Black Friday, more on the luxury side, so
people bought less, but they bought higher quality.

Speaker 2 (01:03:00):
On an anecdotal side. I love that.

Speaker 3 (01:03:04):
I love the idea that people buy less but they
buy better.

Speaker 2 (01:03:09):
And I'm not saying specifically to brand.

Speaker 3 (01:03:11):
I'm discussing when I say better for me equality, which
can be to brand. But I don't know if that
means they've done their buying and now they're done for
the rest of the holiday season.

Speaker 2 (01:03:25):
That was my concern.

Speaker 3 (01:03:27):
I think that as tariff costs play in, I think
you see more issues that come. You certainly have seen
the layoff conversation, and the layoff conversation I think is
getting misrepresented. One point one million layoffs, one point one
million layoffs, and people look at that and say, ah,

(01:03:49):
Trump's economy, it's doing terrible. No, no, no, that's the
wrong look. The proper approach is to say what would
be causing such things, what changes are taking place, and
some of the changes involve AI changes. You could say
that they're taking jobs and people are shetting jobs because

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they're more reliant on the AI.

Speaker 2 (01:04:12):
Do I think it's a mistake. Yes, but that's not
the point.

Speaker 3 (01:04:16):
It doesn't also include the billions of dollars being invested
into AI.

Speaker 2 (01:04:25):
So there's a lot of ways it's looked at.

Speaker 3 (01:04:29):
But yes, you're going to lose jobs that people believe
they can rely on the technology and don't need the people.
And if you say to me, well that's Trump's fault. First,
are you a level of protectionist that says we now
need to make sure we don't use AI to keep
those jobs? That's number one. Number two, you invested in

(01:04:50):
those AI stocks. What are you complaining about? There's another
part of it there. I don't think things start to
turn until you see the shovels hit the ground and
the money get invested from these trade deals that the
White House wants to hide.

Speaker 2 (01:05:10):
I'm still there. My argument is the second.

Speaker 3 (01:05:15):
It happens off to the races and I watching watching
this market watch, which I admit, right the dows at
forty eight thousand, and asdacs of twenty five thousand numbers
are insane. What is the thing that's going to show
that that's going to happen. What is the indicator we

(01:05:35):
can look to to see when that takes place.

Speaker 2 (01:05:39):
That's what I'm looking for, not what someone guesses.

Speaker 3 (01:05:42):
What do we believe is to the best of our
ability based on the research. Once you see this, maybe
it's precious metals going down. Precious metals go down because
there's a belief that the inflation won't come because now
we're seeing the investment take place and growth happen in
other places in a controlled way.

Speaker 2 (01:05:59):
I don't have the answer just yet.

Speaker 3 (01:06:03):
I do believe we've got quite a few months of
headache and heartache ahead of us until these trade deals
come through with actual dollars in people's pockets, shovels and
grounds building something. I think Trump's got have a hard
time selling an economic message, and he does have parts

(01:06:23):
of it to sell, and they should do a better
job of it. But the announcements of a million plus layoffs,
I think that could be explained away. Tony Kats ninety
three WIBC, Good Morning, It's redemption Monday.

Speaker 2 (01:06:42):
I have no idea.

Speaker 5 (01:06:44):
Get this.

Speaker 3 (01:06:45):
Tony Katz ninety three WIBC, Good morning, Good to be
with you. It's time to play America's favorite game. What
the heck is that television theme song? Here's how we
play our game. Producer Carl has selected a television theme
song from yesteryear. I have to guess what that theme
song is. On Monday's we play Redemption Monday. It's a

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song I've already missed. I'm soused to somehow remember, and
then he gives me a chance to redeem myself. So
far Redemption Monday has turned into a total disaster for me.
I have no no Now I can use the chat
room over there, YouTube dot com slash Tony Kats. I

(01:07:27):
can use the chat room to help. Or I can
phone a front to Matt Bear. And I'll do that
just to waste time.

Speaker 2 (01:07:33):
Matt Bear in the WIBC traffic center. What is this
television theme song?

Speaker 5 (01:07:38):
That's America's next top model?

Speaker 2 (01:07:40):
Tony that stuff like it? Like it a lot. I
have no I have no idea.

Speaker 5 (01:07:51):
Even the chatroom didn't get it.

Speaker 2 (01:07:53):
No, no one knows what this is.

Speaker 3 (01:07:56):
I don't think. I mean, it couldn be game show.
I don't remember it. It is so completely non memorable.
I'm gonna go with card Sharks.

Speaker 2 (01:08:07):
I have no idea. What is this theme song? SCTV JO.

Speaker 3 (01:08:14):
I know, I know g gene Levy, It's John Candy,
it's Dave Thomas, it's Rick Moranism. Anytime I don't know something,
Canadian an angel gets its wings.

Speaker 2 (01:08:25):
That's my That's what I would also say if I
was Canadian.

Speaker 3 (01:08:31):
By the way, did you see the new couple Katy
Perry and former Prime Minister Justin Trudeau now officially a couple.
I'm putting out photos on Instagram and they say people
don't like same sex couples.

Speaker 2 (01:08:46):
Ridiculous? What no? Can I get it? Ruling? I don't
think I was the first person to come.

Speaker 16 (01:08:52):
Up with that joke, but dagg it, Oh gosh.

Speaker 3 (01:09:06):
Orlando Bloom to Justin Trudeau, Katy Perry, take a bow.
That's that's that's fallen down. That's stepping, that's stepping a
little lower from Lego loss to hey, who wants to

(01:09:30):
play Legos? That's the step in the wrong direction.

Speaker 2 (01:09:36):
Coming up on Tony Kats today, that is, at.

Speaker 3 (01:09:39):
Noon, we will take a look at the scandal in
evolving Somali immigrants and refugees and theft in Minneapolis and
those people who absolutely covered it up. Then we'll take
a look at who is this suspected.

Speaker 2 (01:09:56):
Pipe bomber.

Speaker 3 (01:09:59):
Back on January we have twenty twenty one and why
it is we can't get a more complete story, although
the good people over there at Legal Insurrection, latest Democrat
hoax explodes.

Speaker 2 (01:10:12):
Within twenty four hours. Yeah, there's a there's a story here.

Speaker 3 (01:10:17):
About how people want to confuse purposefully because Lord forbid
the real story get out, which brings us back to
how is it possible that we did not know who
this guy was? How is it possible? And you start
to realize that it was impossible, and you wonder exactly

(01:10:44):
what it is a government is willing to do when
it's led by people who aren't interested in the rule
of law nor America's best interest, which is exactly how
we should be looking at immigration.

Speaker 2 (01:10:59):
We should be.

Speaker 3 (01:10:59):
Talking about the idea of what is it to be
an American? What is it that we value, what is
it that we do here, how do we view things
and wanting people who want to be a part of
that and not wanting people who don't want to be
a part of that. We have a big enough issue
dealing with what universities have pumped out into society, and

(01:11:20):
then we have to have a very honest conversation about
people who come from Islamic nations. You have to take
a look at Europe and say do you want this?
And the answer is no, because we're not talking about
a religion here, talking about a political system here, and
that conversation, some people say is insulting and xenophobic and bigoted.

Speaker 2 (01:11:43):
Blah blah blah blah blah.

Speaker 3 (01:11:45):
I bring data, I bring receipts, I bring Afghan nationals
who get into shootouts with police. I bring you the
entirety of the immigration issue, whether it's in the UK,
or whether it's in Germany, or whether it's in France.
I bring you yet another Christmas market where somebody drove

(01:12:07):
through it. I'll wait to get that data. I'll wait
to find out. If we are not willing to say
we want immigrants, we are fools. We should want we

(01:12:28):
want them to be a part of American society, not
think that where they came from was better, and proactively
worked in destroying the nation they came to that opened
their arms to them. And by the way, open our
arms is welcome, not here's a check. That's not open arms.

(01:12:49):
That's tom foolery. That's a bad idea. But I posted
about assimilation at all. Some some very silly people. Tony
Katz doesn't want to Saint Patrick's stay because he doesn't
believe in being Irish American.

Speaker 2 (01:13:08):
I believe that there are people who.

Speaker 3 (01:13:11):
Come from an Irish ancestry. They come their family came
from Ireland. If they live in the United States and
their American citizens, they're Americans.

Speaker 2 (01:13:21):
It's the hyphen that's the problem.

Speaker 3 (01:13:23):
The division is the problem, not that people have a
history and a story and yes, a culture from which
they come that they want to be a part of
their lives, mixed into American society, not separated from or
trying to dominate. To think that that is an issue,

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with all due respect the people who think that's an issue.

Speaker 2 (01:13:48):
They're the issue. They're the issue. Now. As for us,
we only have one job.

Speaker 3 (01:13:55):
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