Tony Katz and the Morning News Full Show 12-23-25

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Tony Cats the Morning News ninety three WIBC.

Speaker 2 (00:06):
My name is Craig Collins, killing in.

Speaker 1 (00:08):
Thrilled to be with you over the holidays, Thrilled to
be hanging out with Matt and Carl two as you'll
hear from them throughout the show, and they hang out
here every day on this radio station and this radio show.
All right, First, I do want to play audio President
Trump talking about how he sees one point nine million
barrels of oil from Venezuela. This happened earlier this month,

(00:28):
and we're going to keep it. That's essentially the answer.
I'm wildly amused by this stuff. I'll tell you that.
And here's the thing. I'm going to talk about this,
maybe more at some point today. I know that I
mentioned from time to time I work other radio places,
and there's a deranged radio caller to a place that
I work. He tries to call in multiple times every day,

(00:50):
multiple phone lines.

Speaker 2 (00:51):
He disguises his voice.

Speaker 1 (00:52):
It's insane, and he's a hardcore lefty guy, and every
day he calls in, he's got some weird attack against Trump.
And one of the weird to tacks is this one,
the thing about the oil and how.

Speaker 2 (01:02):
We sold it from Venezuela.

Speaker 1 (01:04):
And here's what's funny to me about these topics is
how much it makes people like that mad, Like, truthfully,
does the US have the right to keep it? Yet
we're saying that we were trying to investigate things. They
were in places they weren't supposed to be. Venezuela said no,
So we said no back, and as the United States,
with the power we have, our no was louder and

(01:25):
so we're capable of doing this. But it's just funny
to me how this small topic where say, a vast
majority of Americans aren't even going to think about oil
that the US took from Venezuela, like it's not going
to be in your holiday mind at all, and yet
some people are going to be deranged and the lunatics
about it and saying how it's the latest thing that

(01:47):
proves that Trump's a horrible, terrible person. So he was
asked about this because it feeds the narrative on the left,
and his answer was awesome. He's like, yeah, I don't
know where we're going to keep that. We might sell it,
we might add it to our strategic reserves. It doesn't
really matter. I don't care that you're upset. We took it.
It's ours, now get over it.

Speaker 3 (02:06):
Yes, speaking of Venezuela and oil, what are we going
to do with the oil that we have?

Speaker 4 (02:10):
I'm going to do with what the oil that has
been seized.

Speaker 3 (02:13):
The United States sees one point nine million barrels of
oil on December tenth.

Speaker 4 (02:18):
We're gonna keep it.

Speaker 3 (02:20):
Where's are we going to sell it?

Speaker 5 (02:22):
What the strategic Maybe.

Speaker 4 (02:23):
We'll sell it and we'll keep it.

Speaker 6 (02:25):
Maybe we'll use it in the strategic reserves.

Speaker 4 (02:27):
We're keeping it. We're keeping the ship.

Speaker 5 (02:30):
So so.

Speaker 1 (02:32):
I love every part of that is like, yeah, we're
just keeping it because it's not at the grand scheme
of things as big of a story as people are
going to make it out on the left because all
they want to do is attack Trump for it. So
I love those moments, truthfully, and I think a whole
lot of people that maybe the left get mad at
the mag of people is what they call them, even

(02:53):
though I think that that's a crazy term or a
silly thing to refer to people as, because I don't
think that there's anyone that's monolith like that, and whatever
they boogeyman think that term means. It doesn't mean that
to people who voted for Trump, who won the popular vote.

Speaker 2 (03:07):
By the way, the other thing that's always.

Speaker 1 (03:09):
Funny to me when you deal with the hardcore, deranged
lefty people is that they hate to admit that the
popular vote this past election actually also went to Trump.
So what does that mean about what side of a
lot of these topics people wind up on. They vilify Trump,
and then they realize that they might be in the
minority on some of those opinions. But anyway, the thing

(03:29):
that I love most about this is that we have
every right to do a lot of the things that
Trump does. I will get to the battleships a little
bit later on in the show and how he named
them after himself, because so oftentimes the biggest complaint I
have about politics is how inauthentic they are, how much
they lie, how ridiculous it is to scream and yell

(03:51):
that this side of the political party, whatever side you're on,
right or left, is the honest people, and that everybody
else is a liar and you just have to look
for maybe five it's online to find a lie by
your own side. Both sides tell lies.

Speaker 2 (04:04):
I'm not going to pretend they don't.

Speaker 1 (04:05):
But what I love about this is that when President
Trump is confronted with something where he can understand that
the narrative is designed to try to criticize him at
all costs, in any way whatsoever, he doesn't care. He
just looks at I'm like, yeah, I don't know whatever,
move on to the next thing, and the left will
go crazier about it, and the right will laugh about it,
and we'll keep voting people like Trump into positions of

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political power because they upend the stupidity of that system.
That is the biggest reason that things like this wind
up being entertaining. I don't really want or care like
I'm not for or against the US seizing a whole
bunch more oil from Venezuela. I am for the US
doing something to force Venezuela to behave Differently, they are
a dangerous country, they are a corrupt country, They have

(04:50):
extreme poverty. All these things happen because of the communists,
the communist rule that exists there, and the people that
are in power that are dangerous that we're putting pressure
on them whatever way. We're doing it from a simply
philanthropic place, but beyond that too. The thing that's most
entertaining to me is that Trump will occasionally look someone

(05:10):
dead in the face and say the thing that everyone
claims is unpresidential, But in reality it wildly entertains everyone
who wishes more people would act this way.

Speaker 2 (05:20):
Even if I didn't agree with.

Speaker 1 (05:21):
Your opinion, you just wish more people would act that way,
and you know, not cater to or fold to whatever
the narrative is that they think they have to be
obedient to. And actually, on that note, coming up later
on in the show, we will talk about CBS and
the dangerous, horrible person that's in charge of CBS. Now,
according to the left, she's certainly no communist or no

(05:41):
conservative or communist.

Speaker 2 (05:43):
She's certainly no conservative.

Speaker 1 (05:45):
And yet there's a story out there about CBS in
sixty minutes, and I think it's wildly entertaining. Get again,
the narrative that exists today and the likelihood that this
story inevitably will be on television at some point.

Speaker 2 (05:57):
It just wasn't on sixty minutes this past week. All Right, we'll.

Speaker 1 (06:00):
Talk about a lot of things. Take a break. It's
the holiday. We're gonna have fun as much as we can,
or it's the holidays. Merry Christmas to everybody out there.
As we get closer to Christmas Day, quick break a
lot more. Craig Collins filling in Tony Kat's in the
Morning News ninety three WIBC.

Speaker 2 (06:15):
Tony Kat's The.

Speaker 1 (06:16):
Morning News ninety three WIBC. My name is Craig Collins,
filling in. Thrilled to be with you. There is a Matt,
There is a Carl who are also a part of
this show. Matt is also a part of the Matt
and Craig Excellent Podcast, which is just an amazing thing.
I think you should check out this holiday season. I
think it is Thank you Matt right out.

Speaker 5 (06:36):
All right? Why not?

Speaker 1 (06:37):
Hey, it's one of the ways to introduce you. Right,
that's on your You have other stuff too. You do
the what is the sobriety one again?

Speaker 6 (06:43):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (06:43):
Somebody sobriety? Yeah?

Speaker 5 (06:45):
Thanks, It's true. Everything you said is true. So that's
a good point. I think that's okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (06:51):
This is your first pop up on the show today.
I figure I need to introduce you, you know, professionally and whatnot.
And you happen to be Yeah, you're welcome. You happen
to be a big part of Matt and Craig excellent podcast,
which is I think taking the iTunes charts by storm.

Speaker 2 (07:04):
I've heard. I'm not really sure.

Speaker 5 (07:07):
Billboard it was so popular, we should we should.

Speaker 2 (07:11):
Get one Billboard man in Indianapolis.

Speaker 5 (07:13):
If you win Time Man of the Year, I'm not
going to be upset. I'm going to be very happy
for you.

Speaker 2 (07:17):
You know, me too, for you too. We're both going
for it.

Speaker 4 (07:21):
Anyway.

Speaker 1 (07:21):
Let's let's let's talk about some crazy stuff out there.
This entertained me a lot. I don't know why. I
don't think there's a lot of robotaxis yet in Indianapolis.
There's not a lot of robo taxis a lot of places,
but they are in California, specifically in San Francisco. And
apparently a big power outage a couple of days ago,
which knocked out a bunch of traffic lights, knocked out

(07:41):
all kinds of things, made all the turbo or the
robotaxis stop in the middle of intersections just anywhere. They
were so massive roadblocks. If Matt was doing traffic in
California a couple days ago, you would have gone insane
because cars without drivers got confused and all just stopped
moving at all, which I thought was hilarious because it
demonstrates the problem that will inevitably exist as the computers

(08:04):
take over everything. They can't think at certain times, and
so I just really love this story.

Speaker 2 (08:09):
What's your reaction to this?

Speaker 5 (08:10):
All they could do is write college paper as well.
That's all the yehue. I'm just having these visions of
cars just stopped and dead and roundabouts Amimilton count anyway,
and in this awful construction zone that's down the one
lane each direction on the south side, if a car
just stops there. I've been behind a dump truck that

(08:32):
just stopped. What's turning? Sound? A line of three quarters
long back to downtown are sitting there, like, what the
hell is going on? It's just a dump truck that stopped.
I can only imagine what's that like and how dangerous
it gets if that's happening all the interstates especially, I
mean for sixty five. It's the angriest interstate in the world,

(08:53):
of my opinion. But this ain't California traffic. This ain't that,
and I could imagine, so yeah, sure, yeah, as a reporter,
I'll drive. I have some time off. Kyle mean up
always driving rush hour because I'm a masochist. Yeah, it's
bad traffic out there as it is here, but that's

(09:13):
a whole other animal man.

Speaker 1 (09:15):
Right, you know, now, Indianapolis traffic feels awful. Sometimes there
are occasions where you go through it and you're like,
how am I still stopped?

Speaker 2 (09:22):
How is this still terrible?

Speaker 1 (09:23):
The thing the solution I think to this problem by
the way of robo taxis just stopping, is they become
free cars, Like should you should be allowed to keep it?
If it's not moving anymore, someone can break into it
grand theft auto style and just keep it. If you're
in the back seat of it as a passenger, it's
your car. Now you get to jump to the front
seat and drive it, and you get to keep it forever.
That would be a nice solution. The companies don't want that.

(09:46):
They don't want their cars to go away for free.
But the minute they stop in the middle of an intersection,
stop moving for no reason whatsoever, that's your car.

Speaker 2 (09:53):
I think that's the right way to go about that.

Speaker 5 (09:54):
I would so legislate this.

Speaker 4 (09:56):
I think it's a brilliant idea.

Speaker 5 (09:58):
It makes that for any car, cars that break down,
you know, I mean, it's free, it's abandoned.

Speaker 4 (10:03):
You know.

Speaker 5 (10:03):
I think about this time on I seventy on the
south end of downtown that a brings truck. I think
it rolled over as one of those money driving trucks,
you know, the security truck, and it rolls and money
just went everywhere on Ice seventy in the west side,
stopping there.

Speaker 2 (10:21):
That sounds amazing.

Speaker 5 (10:22):
Yeah, this was like seven or eight years ago, and
people are jumping out of their cars and grabbing all
this money, and the state police are like, whoa, yeah,
that's we're gonna have to come get that. They're probably
gonna come get it.

Speaker 2 (10:34):
You're probably not gonna get to keep it.

Speaker 5 (10:35):
But I actually this was back when the cameras worked
here in Indiana, the traffic cameras. But I actually I
was able to see the fence line and all these
wads and dollar bills and whatever kind of bills they
were just wided into this fence.

Speaker 4 (10:49):
It was it was bedlam. It was surreal to see in.

Speaker 1 (10:52):
The back of your mind in that moment, how bad
did you want to leave work and go to that fence?

Speaker 5 (10:56):
Oh I had I had a surga you pay the guy.
I know where the money is you gotta give me
a hat. It was like, this job's making me money
one way or another. I don't care.

Speaker 1 (11:08):
We're getting that Matt and Craig excellent podcast, Billboard Baby,
We're getting it.

Speaker 2 (11:13):
That was three mentions in one segment.

Speaker 1 (11:14):
I just want to make sure we know count thank you,
Thank you sir, real quick before we take a break,
and I'll talk about this more in a bit. People
have no idea what day it is starting today. Apparently
throughout the rest of the holiday season, as people don't work,
more often than not, over the next couple of weeks,
they completely forget what day it is. So that's a
brand new study. Yeah, Carl, whatever you say.

Speaker 2 (11:37):
I do like that.

Speaker 5 (11:39):
I do like that a lot.

Speaker 1 (11:40):
So maybe as we go, since I'm filling in for
these two weeks, at some point we'll just have people
call in and guess what day it is, because apparently
they might not know. But we'll get to that at
some point later. I will take a break. Matt's got
traffic a lot coming up. Craig Collins filling in, Tony
Kat's The Morning News ninety three WIBs, Donny Kats The
Morning News ninety three WIBC, my name is Craig Allen's

(12:00):
filling in. Thrilled to be with you. A bunch of
stuff out there to talk about. Let's do a couple
quick things. President Trump revealed a brand new class of
boat in the Navy, of a war machine. I don't
know what you want to call it, the Trump Class,
And I enjoyed part of the announcement about this.

Speaker 2 (12:18):
Yes, he named it after himself.

Speaker 1 (12:20):
Yes, the left is going insane about the fact that
Trump named some military ships after himself. Yes, that's funny
to me. It's tremendously funny to me. But here's a
little bit of the announcement.

Speaker 7 (12:32):
Mister President, the Secretary of Heccess, Secretary of Rubio, thank
you for being here on a very consequential day. From
my very first conversation with President Trump about serving as
a Secretary of the Navy, he's talked about the great
Iowa class battleship and why America doesn't build ships anymore
with that kind of offensive firepower. Yea takes the fight

(12:55):
to the enemy. During my time in the job, I've
talked extents of the lead with our combatant commanders like
Admiral Paparo and Admiral Cooper and our cno Admiral Coddle.
What I've learned is is that not only is the
President's idea good one, it's something that Navy desperately needs
and now has a formal requirement for the future Trump

(13:17):
Class battleship, the USS defining, Yeah, Ivy'll be the largest,
deadliest and most versatile and best looking warship anywhere on
the world's oceans.

Speaker 1 (13:28):
Okay, he definitely cater or you know, was trying to
curry favor with President Trump by saying it'll be the
best looking too. But it's hilarious to me that this
opportunity would land on the President's desk where he wants
to build ships, and the Navy says they'd like ships
and they want to be awesome ships, and then you
got to name them, and hey, why not name them

(13:48):
after myself? That seems like perfectly created for Trump to
really really enjoy that opportunity, and he's doing that, And again,
who cares what the name of the ship is, In
all honesty, does it matter? I think what matters more
is that the Navy is getting something that they say
they want, a need that helps us protect our country,

(14:08):
helps us stay safe. And helps us have something that's
I think more powerful than the rest of the world,
whatever that might be, if it's a collection of ships,
just anything that gives us an edge, and then named
after the President of the United States, which again I
don't even think it would be as entertaining to me,
Like it'd probably be in one ear and out the
other kind of stuff if it wasn't for how the

(14:30):
left gets angry and reacts to it, how people, mostly
media people are up in arms like, how dare he.

Speaker 2 (14:37):
Name it after himself?

Speaker 1 (14:38):
That to me is wildly more entertaining than the existence
of something that it seems like we need and that
Trump would uniquely want to create. He's a builder, after all.
All right, I want to play this one other piece
of audio. This is about the growing controversy that's going
on at sixty minutes. Barry Weiss decided to can some thing,

(15:00):
or at least shelvet is probably the right term, because
she didn't think that the reporters at sixty minutes tried
hard enough to get someone from the Trump administration on record.
This doesn't mean they won't continue to try to do
that and then inevitably air a story without a comment.
From the Trump administration, which is what the left is

(15:22):
trying to tell you. They're claiming right now that it's
been canned forever, its shelved, it was going to harm
the Trump administration. It's about Venezuelans who were deported out
of this country and wound up in prison somewhere else
in the world. And so it's a hit job against
Trump in a way. And all the new leader of
sixty Minutes wanted was a stronger effort in trying to

(15:43):
get the other side of the story, which inevitably, to
the left is akin to, you know, Nazism or something,
some crazy version of dictatorship that they're claiming has now
taken over sixty minutes. This is insane and you know what,
I'll skip the audio. I have audio will later. Adam Kinsinger,
thening pretending to at one point be a Republican former politician,

(16:06):
said that he canceled his sixty Minutes subscription or his
paramount subscription excuse me, because of the sixty Minutes decision.
What's so stupid about this is a week or two
from now, this report will air, which will demonstrate that
Barie Weiss is in no way, shape or form actually
a right wing conservative. She is someone who I think

(16:28):
is and she said in her resignation letter from The
New York Times radically in the middle. But she just
wanted a larger attempt to not tell a narrative of
a story, but to actually try to tell the complete
picture of a story by putting more effort in to
the side that obviously sixty Minute opposes and it used
to not oppose, and how it talks about this.

Speaker 2 (16:47):
But anyway, I just thought it was wildly entertaining.

Speaker 1 (16:49):
That they out there in regular media are acting like
this is the same as state media that's run in
crazy communist places.

Speaker 2 (16:57):
So right, quick break a lot more.

Speaker 1 (16:59):
Craig Collins filling in Tony Kats The Morning News ninety
three WIBC. Tony Kat's The Morning News ninety three WIBC.
My name is Craig Collins, filling in Matt and Carl
hanging out as they do every single morning on this
very program, this very show.

Speaker 2 (17:15):
Most people are already checked out. I saw a.

Speaker 1 (17:19):
Survey or whatever of research about this. Most people checked
out on what day in December? Is the question. I'll
let you guys try to answer it. Was it today?
Was it yesterday? Was it even earlier into the month.
What say you, Matt Bear, what day do you think
people checked out until next year?

Speaker 5 (17:37):
It's got to be Monday? Okay, yesterday, It's that fair enough.

Speaker 1 (17:41):
As a guest, I think I've made it sound as
though it has to be this week.

Speaker 2 (17:45):
It might even be earlier than that.

Speaker 5 (17:47):
Carl, what do you.

Speaker 2 (17:47):
Think when do you think people checked out in December?

Speaker 8 (17:50):
I know that people have checked out. Monday you can't
get any service, right.

Speaker 2 (17:55):
That's true.

Speaker 1 (17:56):
People definitely probably checked out even harder Monday of this week.
It actually says that people initially checked out in December
on December fifteenth, that's when we got so last Monday
people gave up, and now by this Monday, it's probably
even worse than next Monday.

Speaker 2 (18:09):
Who knows.

Speaker 5 (18:09):
We're all working too hard. We are what everybody listening?
Stop your cars, turn around, go home, Go home, guys.
No one cares. No one's doing anything now. The holidays
are two days away. Why are we even doing radio? No,
I'm kidding, I'm actually real. We're such an industrious bunch.
I pat myself now.

Speaker 1 (18:26):
If I gave up on these days, I wouldn't have
any days to be on WIBC.

Speaker 5 (18:30):
This is it, this is this is my super Bowl.
I was checked down Thanksgiving. I mean, this is been
going on since the last holiday.

Speaker 4 (18:36):
It's cool.

Speaker 2 (18:36):
There we go.

Speaker 1 (18:37):
I was talking to the Missus yesterday about this. She
she got annoyed that I work so much during the holidays,
and I was like, you got to not be sad
about that, because this, to me is great, Like I
would love to be working this often on all these
places like the WIBC and some other work that I do.

Speaker 2 (18:54):
Actually, I can mention it here.

Speaker 1 (18:55):
I'll be on the Dana Show today, I'll be I'll
be filling in as the host of the Dana Show
that airson WIBC. Tomorrow I'll be filling in on the
Chad Benson Show, which airs at WIBC.

Speaker 2 (19:04):
Yeah, thank you.

Speaker 1 (19:06):
At some point I probably should interview that crazy dude
who does a podcast with me again, although Matt has
popped up, were you on Dana with me?

Speaker 5 (19:13):
Is that the show we did? Were you jumped in?
I was on? I had no idea what I thought.
I wasn't sure that was what show? Did I do
with you? I might have been It was fun, I
know that, but I can't remember what show. It was Yeah, wait, wait,
we got to do another one. Yeah, we'll do We'll
do that. Okay, cool, I've just invited you on airs.
Now you can't say.

Speaker 1 (19:32):
No other things out there that I saw.

Speaker 2 (19:35):
I thought this was interesting.

Speaker 1 (19:37):
One in five Americans believe that their current relationship is
not the one, meaning that they're dating someone, but they're
fairly certain they're not getting married to this person, and
yet they're not breaking up with them. One in five
twenty percent of people actively in a relationship are like, Yeah,
I'm just seeing this through a little bit longer.

Speaker 2 (19:55):
I'm just hanging in through the holidays or whatever it
might be.

Speaker 1 (19:58):
That seems awful to me, because if you definitively know
that the person is not someone you have a future with,
you probably should move on to somebody else, right right.

Speaker 4 (20:08):
That's fair to the other person.

Speaker 5 (20:10):
I think it would be a nice thing to do,
you know, if you just say, hey, this isn't working out.
I'm not going to take any more of your life
space in this relationship that I know that's going.

Speaker 1 (20:20):
To fail, that I can't possibly see a longer future,
and however much longer I decide to stay. I wonder
if there's some level of like mental health benefit. And
I mean this as horribly as it sounds like selfishness
and a mental health benefit to thinking you're the one
who's going to end a relationship whenever you feel like it.
Like there's some people that might stay in a relationship

(20:41):
where they believe they're going to be the breakup e
or the breakup er just because they're not afraid of
getting broken up with. And that's that's kind of awful.
There might be something very selfish about that. But I
wonder if that's a reason people stay. It's not you,
it's it's me, right, whatever.

Speaker 5 (20:57):
I feel like saying, we never mean that when we
say it, by the way, no very well, or we're
b yesing ourselves. I think a lot of times when
we yeah, man, it's narcissistic. I'd think the state of
relationship for whatever reason other than to unless you have
some sort of financial arrangement or maybe an arrangement for

(21:19):
pass into the country, whatever it is, None of that's
any of my business. I'm just saying, as someone you
know in their twenties was in a relationship and been like, man,
I really don't want to be in this relationship and
prolong and on.

Speaker 4 (21:31):
It is destructive to both people.

Speaker 5 (21:34):
It is bad, it comes out badly in the breakup
is something helacious. So if yes, it's uncomfortable, but you're
used to this person, and maybe you're sharing a lifestyle,
you know, in hobbies and bills and everything else. It's complicated. Man,
At least i'd assume I've never been married. What the
hell do I know?

Speaker 1 (21:51):
It's fantat Wow, these people aren't married either. These are
just people that are dating and deciding. They know they're
not going to get married, but they're not breaking up.

Speaker 5 (21:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (21:57):
I do love that you said there's financial potent arrangements,
because it sounded like you were referencing what I think
the kids call the sugar daddy or the sugar mommy relationship.

Speaker 4 (22:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (22:08):
And I'm not going any deeper into that topic with you, Matt,
but I'm glad that it's been out there.

Speaker 2 (22:11):
I'm glad that it's put under the ether.

Speaker 5 (22:14):
We all know I'd be a sugar daddy if I
had the money. I can't even take a woman toos
Tacos right now. I'm not paying your rent.

Speaker 1 (22:25):
Yeah, can I Okay, we didn't intend to talk about this.
I can't believe I'm going to say this on the radio,
but I am going to say it. You just made
a joke, and yet once you get married, like, what
is the difference between me and a sugar?

Speaker 2 (22:38):
I'm asking that question. Honestly.

Speaker 1 (22:40):
My wife has access to all my money and she'll
spend it on whatever she wants to spend it on,
and I'll just be like, oh, okay.

Speaker 2 (22:45):
We spent money on that.

Speaker 1 (22:46):
So I am I'm asking candidly the question as a
married man, happily married. I'm not, you know, in any
other relationships. I just have the one woman in the life,
but she essentially has the same level of financial access.

Speaker 2 (22:59):
That someone else would.

Speaker 1 (23:01):
So I wonder why we disparage one of those two
relationships so much when the other one is just sort
of what inevitably happens.

Speaker 5 (23:07):
I'm just putting it.

Speaker 8 (23:08):
Out in the state, what one is recognized by the state. True,
that's true, you do the paperwork more expensive.

Speaker 1 (23:14):
You're right, wow, see, but even I mean the relationship
is also not cheap, is what I'm saying, Carl. You
know this as a married man, like she has access
to all the money. My favorite part of the holidays
is that My wife does all of our shopping, and
then I pretend I know what the gifts are that
we give people. I have no, very manly, no, dude,
it's exciting on Christmas Day when people are opening their gifts.

Speaker 2 (23:37):
I'm like, man, who gave you?

Speaker 6 (23:38):
Oh?

Speaker 5 (23:38):
We did?

Speaker 2 (23:39):
We gave you that. You're right, you will know that.

Speaker 8 (23:42):
I've bought a lot of equipment recently for the radio
in the podcast, and my wife says, oh, you think
that money just grows on trees.

Speaker 4 (23:50):
She's watching all of this.

Speaker 2 (23:52):
It's fantastic.

Speaker 5 (23:54):
Yes, I was going to recommend you guys start your
own personal checking account and don't tell her. But I
don't prolong the marriage very much. That's not what a
marriage is all about. Right, Yeah, you want me? You
want me to get murdered this holiday season, Matt. If
I had my own secret bank account, I don't even
know what would happen.

Speaker 2 (24:13):
I'm married to a Latina man.

Speaker 5 (24:14):
I had no idy talk about it on the air either.

Speaker 1 (24:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (24:17):
No, I can't even make this joke.

Speaker 1 (24:19):
I feel like she's going to pop up behind me
at some point in the near future, like, yeah, now,
a secret bank account, horrible idea.

Speaker 2 (24:24):
This is why Matt's not mass one sentence, the truthful.

Speaker 5 (24:27):
Such a free h fuddy Ryan looking at North Mound
sixty five on the south side, slow after Raymond into
the Sounds Wood. That is a construction zone. In bound
sixty nine. I'm clear right now and coming down from
State Road thirty seven. What' sept Fisher's two four sixty
five looking good there? And if you're coming up from
Johnson County this morning, northbound sixty five, pretty fantastic for

(24:50):
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Speaker 2 (25:13):
Thank you, Matt.

Speaker 5 (25:13):
Wish.

Speaker 1 (25:14):
TV meteorologist Tarah Hastings, Good morning. How does the weather look?

Speaker 9 (25:17):
Hey, good morning. We've got mostly cloudy skies out there
right now, even a little bit of some late miss
and patchy drizzle. We will see clouds decreasing for this
afternoon so some sunshine, high temperatures near fifty eight. Partly
Clotti took skies tonight Loza fall to thirty five and
heading into you Christmas Eve, look for mostly cloudy skies.

(25:38):
A few showers will be possible. Late high's near fifty.
We'll go with a high fifty seven degrees on Christmas Day,
A few light morning showers could be possible, and then
sixties heading into Friday.

Speaker 2 (25:51):
Thank you very much, Dara.

Speaker 1 (25:52):
Right now it is seven oh six Tuesday morning, Johnny
Gats The Morning News ninety three WIBC. My name is
Craig Collins, filling in, thrilled to be with you. A
bunch of stuff out there to talk about just a

(26:13):
few days before the holiday. I do want to play
some audio that's going viral. I think it started going
viral yesterday because there's this big conversation about sixty minutes
and whether or not the new people in charge of
the new person in charge of sixty minutes and CBS
News is a radical right winger because she decided to shelve,

(26:33):
not totally kill, but shell the story that would have
talked about deportation and the Trump administration. And the reason
she did this was because she didn't think that enough
people in Trump's orbits or in his administration were actually
attempted to get interviews with meaning that the left wanted
to tell its version of a narrative story and not

(26:54):
actually try to get the other.

Speaker 2 (26:55):
Side, and they shouldn't do that.

Speaker 1 (26:57):
But this little piece of audio has leaked, and it's
pretty or it's been out there maybe for a little while.
I don't even know if leaked is the right word,
but it's certainly getting a higher focus now because how
insanely left leaning this simple sentences. So I'll play it
for you, and if you can't tell, I'll tell you
why it's ridiculous.

Speaker 2 (27:15):
But here we go.

Speaker 1 (27:16):
This is part of the sixty minute story that didn't
wind up being on television earlier this week, but now
is causing people to contemplate all different kinds of crazy
things and yell and scream in political ways.

Speaker 10 (27:28):
Rapid deportations have been a key part of the Trump
administration's immigration overhaul. The administration considers anyone who crosses the
border illegally to be a criminal.

Speaker 5 (27:39):
I want to have it right there.

Speaker 1 (27:41):
So that's the sentence, that's kind of ridiculous, that's on
sixty minutes. The Trump administration considers anyone who crosses the
border illegally to be a criminal. Is the actual sentence
said on television? Right, that is true, that is a crime.
You're not allowed to be here. I wish they did
that for others. They're like, anybody who shoots one person

(28:02):
is considered to be a criminal. And that's just crazy,
because of course it's not. Of course it makes sense
to all of us. And of course, if something as
horrific as an actual, you know, violent crime takes place
in news media, the left is going to blame guns
and conservatives for that too. But in this case, like
this person's innocent, how dare you say anything even though
the prerequisite, prerequisite, excuse me, of the sentence is that

(28:26):
they're crossing illegally into our country, which is a crime.

Speaker 2 (28:29):
I want to play it one more time.

Speaker 10 (28:30):
The administration considers anyone who crosses the border illegally to
be a criminal.

Speaker 5 (28:36):
I find that hilarious.

Speaker 1 (28:38):
I truthfully do, because it's so ridiculous and how one
sided that's That kind of thinking is how brainwashed people
seem to be on a certain side of the political
aisle that they don't even notice or maybe they obviously
notice and do it untentionally.

Speaker 2 (28:54):
It's either or.

Speaker 1 (28:55):
But some people wouldn't even notice that as they watched
that on television and said, yeah, that is crazy that
he considers some of the people who committed a crime criminals.

Speaker 2 (29:03):
Ah, anyway, all right, we'll move on.

Speaker 1 (29:05):
There are other things out there, as I said, to
talk about, and mostly I just am getting so annoyed
with this story. But I do quite a bit like
the fact that there's this, and then there's now calls
to impeach Pambondi, and they're calling to impeach Pambondi over
the belief that she didn't put out enough of the
Epstein files. I think that this has long been, at

(29:26):
least over the last few months, if not longer than that.
I've been a kind of thing where Democrats actually don't
want anything else to come out. They want the conversation
to be about the lack of things that are in
the public eye that they can tell you exist no
matter what they are. Of course, they want Trump to
be in trouble. So part of the left will never

(29:47):
be satisfied no matter how much stuff comes out regarding Epstein,
because it won't get Trump in trouble, and so they'll
keep telling you there's something else that's been hidden, someone
else is responsible for hiding something. That doesn't mean there
aren't still potentially more files than things.

Speaker 5 (30:02):
That should be released.

Speaker 1 (30:03):
There was a law that was written that did say
everything has to come out unless it's actually to protect
an ongoing investigation or a victim. And so who knows
what inevitably will happen there. But I love the fact
that at the end of the day, the real message
or real goal of people on the other side of
the political aisle from Trump is that they want things
or the appearance of things to be hidden so that

(30:27):
they can tell you that those things are. Of course,
all the bits of proof that you don't have that
Trump's a bad guy because they don't care about anything else.
They only care about that one scalp, and they've cared
about it for a very long time. And they've continued
to swing and miss, or like literally a shoot and
miss horrifically as it is, when trying to remove the
president in any way, shape or form, from our society

(30:48):
or from power. They have continued to fail at that.
So thank god, they've continued to fail at that. By
the way because of how horrific some of those things are.
But nonetheless, I will say, and I mean this as
candidly as I can, that this will never stop. They'll
keep trying to find some version of a story where
they can pretend as though the secret is so big

(31:10):
that you have to know about it. And as you
continue to see the crap that exists within that narrative,
hopefully more and more people wake up to how ridiculous
that position is. But the Epstein story and even the
resistance to put it out for quite a while, seems
to all be playing together to demonstrate how inauthentic the

(31:30):
desire was from Jump to actually find sex traffickers responsible
for sex crimes, which should have been the goal all along.
All right, quick break, A lot more coming up. Craig
Collins filling in Tony Kat's The Morning News ninety three WIBC.
That's a great Christmas song, Tony Kat's The Morning News
ninety three WIBC. My name is Craig Collins filling in.

(31:51):
You have Matt and Carl hanging out as they do
every single morning on this show. Let's do a popcorn moment,
which is brought to you by Boer remodeling, let's go
ahead and get this going, all right. The popcorn moment
is almost always, I think, although actually I'm not sure
maybe a Carl can even correct this. For me, it's
usually in the world of politics or the news. It's

(32:12):
not usually in the world of sports. But today I
had to make it in the world of sports because
there was something that happened last night. Even though I
know the Colts lost, and they lost pretty badly by
the end of that game, but there were multiple moments
that happened, especially in the first half, that made you
thrill to be a forty year old guy, because Philip
Rivers is a forty year old guy, and he did

(32:32):
quite well on the field, at least in the first
half of that game for somebody that probably isn't NFL
quality anymore. He definitely struggled to throw the ball down
field toward the end of the game, which is a problem.

Speaker 2 (32:45):
But nonetheless I.

Speaker 1 (32:46):
Have him calling a play and kind of commanding everyone
in a pre snap operation that I thought was amazing.

Speaker 2 (32:53):
So here is the popcorn moment.

Speaker 8 (32:56):
To me.

Speaker 2 (32:56):
It was Philip Rivers on Monday night football and he
was having to get the ball to Taylor a first down,
Sat what ay?

Speaker 3 (33:05):
But I.

Speaker 9 (33:09):
Had him.

Speaker 5 (33:12):
We're good for.

Speaker 1 (33:14):
Don't like a traffic shop putting guys in place, and
he's got a man wide open.

Speaker 5 (33:20):
That's sounds yeah.

Speaker 2 (33:21):
Baby wide open again?

Speaker 5 (33:23):
Cool? I ever heard a cadence like isolated like that
before that. That was really cool.

Speaker 1 (33:30):
Thank you, Matt, Yeah, it was. It's great and honestly
it was the popcorn moment for me. Yesterday was watching
Philip Rivers play football on Monday night for the Indianapolis Cults.
Uh five years after last playing in an NFL NFL
game minus last week. So he's done this now two
weeks in a row and shouldn't be as good as
he is, even if there were some struggles, as I
said toward detail end of the game, and probably one

(33:51):
of the reasons one of the best teams in the
NFL beat up on the Colts. But nonetheless, still I
think a story worth continuing to pay attention to because
of how entertaining it is. Right, it makes you, as
an also forty year old guy, feel better.

Speaker 2 (34:06):
It makes you feel and I feel like we could
do this. We can't.

Speaker 1 (34:09):
There's no you know, world, at least for me, where
I could suit up and be an NFL quarterback. But
Philip Rivers doing it makes the crazy part of my
brain think I could probably do it, maybe for a
drive or something. And the answer is, of course I can't.
But that's the reason I enjoy it so much.

Speaker 5 (34:25):
Yeah, I liked it too, especially from the forty year
old man and a cult perspective. It's you know, we
were told so many times, at least I was in
my twenties, or maybe nobody told me anything.

Speaker 4 (34:36):
I just had this misgutted perception of people in their
forties that it's over baby.

Speaker 5 (34:42):
Yeah, do you remember. I remember my folks seventy of
these over the hill parties and there would be black
balloons with the number forty yeh, And it's like, wow,
this is really sad, but everybody's getting drunken party? Yeah,
over the What is this sad or happy? I don't know.
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (34:58):
I can't tell.

Speaker 4 (34:59):
But it's so not true.

Speaker 5 (35:02):
Yeah, I know, there we go, let's do that. Yeah's
everybody true? And I know Craig Collins or mad Bear
aren't going to be an NFL quarterback.

Speaker 4 (35:10):
Now, show Biz will be show Biz could absolutely be.

Speaker 5 (35:13):
Of course, Carl could suit up, but just the fact
to see him go out and do this.

Speaker 1 (35:19):
Wait, wait, Matt, wait a second. Carl is also in
charge of the sounders. That was a correct sounder. Is
that all you played there, Carl.

Speaker 8 (35:27):
Yes, we said you could be in the NFL. Absolutely,
and I can suit up right now. When Philip Rivers goes.

Speaker 1 (35:33):
Down, I love I love that he didn't even chime in, Matt.
He's just like, yeah, that's going to play it correct.
So to that, go ahead, continue, Matt.

Speaker 5 (35:40):
No, I just get to say, but as a Colts fan,
Philip Rivers gives us something to be excited about because
I don't know if you followed this or non, Craig,
this season has carrened. Yeah, in a way that's just
been heartbreaking. And you know, we're close friends, We're used
to heartbreak. I mean, we had the Super Bowl hang
basket fumbling the football. You know, we lost that Super
Bowl to the Saints. We know this kind of stuff.
But to be so good and to be so dominant,

(36:03):
and to be the exact opposite for the second half
of the season, Hey, at least there's Philip Rivers the
cheer for at least Phillip's there and we could all
get behind him.

Speaker 4 (36:11):
He really wants to be there.

Speaker 5 (36:13):
He seems like an indie guys that were cool with it,
and hopefully he'll not hurt himself these last two games.

Speaker 1 (36:18):
Not just because I occasionally work at WIBC in Indianapolis,
but because Daniel Jones is a former Giant who was
terrible for the Giants and great for the Colts. I
was actively paying attention to the Colts at the beginning
of the year when they and Daniel Jones both seemed incredible.
So yeah, it's definitely heartbreaking toward the end here, and
it's nice to have something that still excites you. If
you don't think the Cults are going to win on

(36:39):
Monday night, at least you can watch Philip Rivers I'll
play on Monday night. It doesn't make anyone else on
that roster feel great, as we said yesterday, like the
Riley Leonards of the world, that they have a future
in Indianapolis about Let's not care about that. That doesn't
matter because it is fun and it was really cool
to see the Cults hang in at least for half
of that game last night. All Right, some other things

(37:00):
out there, just quickly to talk about I thought this
was interesting. A poll came out of the UK that
said that people are now overwhelmingly turning to artificial intelligence
for I'm going to call it relationship advice. It's actually
much more adult than that the advice that they're turning
to AI for. But it's a morning show, so let's
go with the relationship or love advice.

Speaker 2 (37:20):
We can call it love advice.

Speaker 1 (37:22):
The biggest reason that people are turning to AI and
not friends or even the person you're in a relationship
with to discuss love is because the AI is non judgmental.

Speaker 2 (37:32):
Anything you tell it, anything you want.

Speaker 1 (37:34):
To ask questions about, the AI will lean in, and
real people don't always lean in when you tell them
weird stuff that might exist again in the world of
on air quotes, this time love Any thoughts on AI
being the place that people now turn to ask questions
about adult topics.

Speaker 5 (37:51):
Yeah, that's not going to work. No, it's not going
to work at all. Think about this. It's like putting
here a cheat code, you know, to your relationship. You know,
be Higan, old school gamer and you know, back from
the original Ataria at edes DA's where you put in
codes and all of a sudden you have massive amounts.
It's kind of the same thing to me. I mean,
you're not doing this and getting advice with resistance, that's

(38:12):
what therapy is for. But to actually get relationship advice
when you should be talking to the person, I don't
see how that works.

Speaker 4 (38:19):
I mean, especially when there's not.

Speaker 5 (38:20):
Any pushback, that's not a fight, that's just you know,
making your side even stronger. That's so you're doing right well.

Speaker 1 (38:27):
And even even more so, getting advice from an AI
is not going to actually help you in the conversation
with the missus, Like she's not going to care. When
you get to the point where you're like, hey, but
AI said this was okay, she will.

Speaker 5 (38:37):
Absolutely slap you in the face. That doesn't work.

Speaker 2 (38:39):
I tell you more on right.

Speaker 1 (38:41):
And I do love the fact that you also said
codes don't work, because I should try the Konami code
and my wife sometime in the middle of a fight,
I should just like say out loud, up, up, down, down, left, right, left, right,
be a start, and see what happens. And when she
doesn't do anything different, that means the Konami code, famous
in gaming, does not work.

Speaker 5 (38:57):
That code gives you thirty lives and she will take
all the of them away from you.

Speaker 4 (39:01):
I guarantee you in contract.

Speaker 2 (39:02):
It gives you thirty lives.

Speaker 5 (39:04):
I love that.

Speaker 1 (39:04):
In other Me and Matt like video games too. You
can hear about that on the Matt and Craig Excellent podcast.
All right, we'll take a We'll take a break. Matt's
got traffic. More coming up in a bit. Tony Kats
The Morning News ninety three WIBC. My name is Craig Collins,
filling in, thrilled to be with you a bunch of
stuff to talk about.

Speaker 2 (39:24):
As always, it.

Speaker 1 (39:25):
Is time for a Marketplace segment which is brought to
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them you know, hey, I'm pretty sure that Indiana owes

(39:47):
me money somehow, even me who hasn't lived there.

Speaker 2 (39:49):
In a long time.

Speaker 1 (39:50):
The thing that I found in Marketplace, which I think
I forgot to tweet out for you guys, is an
Apple to WAHS edition computer is what it's called. It's
incredibly old. It has the floppy disk stuff that you
remember from computers back in the day. It's a collector's item.
It is going for three hundred and fifty dollars on
Facebook Marketplace. It's in Caramel or Carmel, Indiana where you

(40:15):
can get it. I like to call it Caramel, but
car Yeah, I know it sounds better that way. But anyway,
the funniest thing to me about this computer, even though
it's a collector's item and it says it's in great condition,
completely useless. No one would have any value in doing
anything on this thing because technology is.

Speaker 2 (40:30):
So much better than it was back then.

Speaker 1 (40:33):
But yes, if you want to buy a old, old
Apple computer for three hundred and fifty bucks, you can.

Speaker 2 (40:38):
Get one on the internet online in Indiana.

Speaker 5 (40:40):
Does it have a dial up modem?

Speaker 2 (40:43):
I don't think so.

Speaker 5 (40:43):
I don't think you can go on I oh, you
can't go on the internet. I don't think you can
do that. Yeah, you said it was a two fifty
two to fifty would be before internet times.

Speaker 4 (40:52):
I believe.

Speaker 5 (40:54):
Yeah, it's an Apple two.

Speaker 8 (40:55):
Yeah, Apple too, Okay, okay, yeah, you could connect to
the phone, right and then have the or dial up modem.

Speaker 2 (41:01):
I don't think so. I don't know about this, guys.

Speaker 5 (41:03):
This is like the kind of thing that might kill
a computer of that size. I don't know from no,
like if.

Speaker 1 (41:09):
You remember the computers, well, I don't know who remembers this.
Maybe we went to fancy your high schools in grade
schools than I did. But I remember like in grade
school you had a computer this bad in the corner
of the room that would just take a floppy disk.
I think that's all it can do. Man, I don't
think you can do anything else.

Speaker 5 (41:23):
Well, yeah, you'd play Oregon Trail on that and get
yourself some little fashioned dysentery.

Speaker 1 (41:29):
And well at some point you're definitely gonna ge dysentery.

Speaker 5 (41:33):
Yeah, I mean there goes for life, right, it's right
a passage of my family.

Speaker 8 (41:39):
Man.

Speaker 5 (41:39):
You know what?

Speaker 1 (41:40):
That almost feels like a version of it has come
airing of grievances for Festivus, which our newsroom just did
a great job of referencing. That's the thing, right now,
what's your version of dysentery? We can all ask that question, like,
how did you get dysentery?

Speaker 2 (41:52):
This year. It doesn't have to be. It doesn't have
to be the actual disease.

Speaker 1 (41:56):
It's the bad thing that happened to you, because we
all get dysentery.

Speaker 2 (41:59):
That is how life works.

Speaker 5 (42:00):
Now, is this a question that I should broach on
the way to church for Christmas Eve?

Speaker 4 (42:05):
Or wait until after? I think it's an after church
Is that an after church conversation?

Speaker 6 (42:09):
Okay?

Speaker 5 (42:11):
Man, I want to feel good about you know, the
candlelight in the church. You remember Christmas Eve services, They're
so beautiful and you walk out with the cads. You'd
be like, you know, this reminds me of the last
time I had dysentery.

Speaker 1 (42:22):
But no, if we're doing this in the abstract meaning
that it doesn't actually have to be an illness, but
something bad that happened to you, do you have a
case of dysentery this year?

Speaker 4 (42:30):
Matt?

Speaker 5 (42:30):
Yeah, okay, okay, now, okay, now that I understand, h
do you.

Speaker 1 (42:34):
Have one and no example in the last year where
you got quote unquote dysentery?

Speaker 5 (42:38):
I don't believe so, but there were some times where
I questioned it. All right, yeah, it's it's pretty so far,
so good, but the year ain't over. Yet, Craig, that's fair.
I do.

Speaker 1 (42:47):
I do have one, and I prepped Caral about this
topic because I don't know if I should talk about it.

Speaker 2 (42:52):
But hey, it's not here.

Speaker 1 (42:54):
It's at a different radio station, so that doesn't count, right.
If the thing that I'm talking about and someone complaining
about isn't at WIBC, then who cares. Here is how
I got dysent erry this year, if you guys don't mind,
I was given a Christmas bonus had a company I've
been working at for just a few months, and then
someone had to come to me from HR and say
I wasn't supposed to get the bonus, why the Christmas?

Speaker 8 (43:17):
I know.

Speaker 2 (43:17):
They're like, you know, it's supposed to be people who've
been here a year.

Speaker 1 (43:20):
We're so sorry, we feel terrible, and like I understand
it makes sense.

Speaker 2 (43:25):
I haven't been there a year yet.

Speaker 1 (43:26):
So actually for the holiday, I have to write a
check and give money back to my employer, and everybody
else around me got a Christmas gif. They got to
be money, No, dude, It's hilarious to me though, Like,
I don't think it's anybody's fault. No one did anything
wrong ful. You keep the money Wow, that wouldn't be
so bad.

Speaker 5 (43:45):
Your wife hasn't spent the money yet, has she Not.

Speaker 1 (43:47):
That I'm aware of Carl Allough who knows, But you know,
it's funny to Matt's point, there have been references in
some meetings I've been sitting in where some people have
been like, you know, we could let them keep it,
and you just got to be quiet when you sit
there and they say that, because yeah, I would like
that approach. Let's just let me keep it. But it's
against the policy. Like the policy says you have to
work there a year. I've only been there a few months.
So yeah, nobody's wrong. It's just uniquely odd to write

(44:11):
a check to my employer to give them money for Christmas.

Speaker 4 (44:15):
It's blown right now.

Speaker 5 (44:17):
You know, when you give somebody money, you give somebody,
how would you and listen, you're the person totally getting
jobbed in this situation, no doubt, But how would you
like to be the hr person that asked to go
up to somebody and be like, hey, you got to
write a check to the company because we screwed up. Right,
this is so bad and so off ways, man, I mean,
this is no dude, I don't know anybody.

Speaker 4 (44:37):
Man, I don't want to dog anybody's.

Speaker 2 (44:39):
Company because I work with these people. I I still
work for the Matt don't don't do anything work.

Speaker 4 (44:43):
Yeah, yeah, I will say that group.

Speaker 5 (44:45):
I'm sure.

Speaker 1 (44:45):
And somebody doesn't know something, you know, somebody, yeah, hit
a wrong button. But anyway, the thing that's funniest to
me is the day that had happened. My coworkers must
have known before I did, because somebody bought me lunch,
somebody gave me like an extra Christmas gift card for
a thing. And then eventually the HR person came in.
They're like, hey, I got to talk to you. That
check you got that was bigger than.

Speaker 2 (45:04):
Was supposed to be. Whoopsies, we need that back.

Speaker 8 (45:07):
Did you see did you see in your checking account
like five.

Speaker 2 (45:12):
No, man, it's not like that. No, it's it's not
even close to that yet.

Speaker 5 (45:15):
Now now you were like adding two pennies, subtracted a
penny or anything like that.

Speaker 2 (45:19):
No, it's not nothing like that.

Speaker 1 (45:20):
But again, I do love the and I actually a
bank with Chime, which this is not actually a promotion
for any sort of bank out there, and they're an
internet bank, but they pay you early, so I got
the money before I even had the pay stub to
understand why I got the money, So when they were
talking to me about it, I already knew that I was,
in fact paid more than I was supposed to be.
Like that part was already true. Uh And anyway, I

(45:41):
just thought it was so funny. That's how I got dysentery.
Though this year I had to give Christmas money back
to the people who worked for anybody else out there
have a dysentery story, you can tell us on the internet.
You can tell us by commenting on you know, Facebook
or something, and maybe we'll throw some of those out there.

Speaker 2 (45:57):
The goal is to have fun.

Speaker 1 (45:58):
I would like for these to be more fun on
and not sad, but we'll we'll do whatever if you
want to do some of those.

Speaker 8 (46:03):
It's as if Santa Claus came to your house, gave
you a big, big present, and then came back and
go I went to the wrong house.

Speaker 1 (46:09):
Yeah, that is see, and we can find humor in this.

Speaker 5 (46:13):
We can. That hurts, because that's what.

Speaker 11 (46:18):
Man.

Speaker 5 (46:20):
Come on, come on, yeah, no thanks.

Speaker 1 (46:23):
Plus, by the way, the check that I'm inevitably writing
to my work, I am going to put married Christmas
on the bottom.

Speaker 2 (46:27):
Of it, because I have to.

Speaker 1 (46:29):
You've got to, all right, the boy, well, we got to
take a break. A lot more coming up. Craig Collins
filling in Tony Kats in The Morning News ninety three WIBC.
Tony Kats The Morning News, ninety three WIBC. My name
is Craig Collins, filling in. Thank you to some people
who are sending me Facebook messages about the story just
told on the radio about my Christmas bonus. I'm not

(46:50):
here with this organization that I work with just part time,
but another company I work for that is asking for back.
That was something we were talking about a little bit
ago and I got messed is from a few WIBC
listeners at Radio craig Z, where you can follow me
on social media, saying they feel.

Speaker 2 (47:06):
Bad for me.

Speaker 1 (47:06):
That wasn't the intention of the story, by the way,
but I appreciate the pity.

Speaker 2 (47:11):
It's fine.

Speaker 1 (47:12):
Other things out there. Matt and Carl hanging out, of
course on the show, as they do every single day.
Chipotle apparently is trying to lean in to the ridiculous
amount of people who are now taking a weight loss
drug like a GLP one type of drug and they're
creating a GLP one friendly menu. This is a real
story that's out there in the news and I thought

(47:32):
was hilarious. What does that mean? It means that you
just have less food, and I think it's basically the
same price or it's more protein heavy food is what
they're saying. But the serving size is smaller because you're
not likely to finish the typical serving size if you're
on some sort of weight loss drug like ozempic or
gov which says something maybe about the amount of food

(47:54):
we normally consume as people compared the amount we consume
when we're on some sort of drug. Anyone want to
weigh in on the topic of Chipotle, of all places,
trying to lean in to weight loss drugs and how
they impact their sales.

Speaker 4 (48:09):
Yeah, that's not gonna work.

Speaker 5 (48:13):
Here's you go to Chipotle one because of the portion
sizes because you think you think you are eating healthy
while you're not.

Speaker 4 (48:21):
That's the big thing, and that's their hook.

Speaker 5 (48:23):
And they have the protein in there, the vegetables, but
what they don't account is there's still going to be
some grease and some sauces and other things, and that can.

Speaker 4 (48:30):
Add up big time.

Speaker 5 (48:32):
Yeah, Oh, it's amazing, but you can't. What world can
you go from big portions of smaller portions? Where is
that acceptable? Because it's not going to fly.

Speaker 4 (48:41):
In the Diana.

Speaker 5 (48:42):
I can tell you that we like our larger portions
and I like to eat specifically. And it reminds me
a little bit of Cracker Barrel earlier in the year.
You have this sure big brand in this audience, in
this demographic that you know enjoys your product to death,
and then all of a sudden you start making a tweak.

(49:03):
This could be a small tweak. It's going to raise
the bottom line this much and make this tweak it
everything just comes down like tinker toys. Yeah, that's what
happened to the Cracker Barrel and Chipotle. I wouldn't say
it's as far as removing a logo like Cracker Barrel did,
but they're kind of kind of playing in the margins
on this one. You gotta watch out because you don't
want to piss off your main demographic.

Speaker 4 (49:22):
You don't want to do that.

Speaker 1 (49:24):
I love that Cracker Barrel got dysentery this year when
they decided to change their logo. Yeah, and now now
Chipotle might be getting dysentery or they're probably giving it
to you in some way with their smaller portions.

Speaker 2 (49:36):
All Right, I love that.

Speaker 1 (49:37):
And anyone who has no idea what I'm saying, you
missed the last segment and I'm not doing it again.

Speaker 2 (49:41):
All right, I'm not gonna explain it. Listen to the podcast,
all right.

Speaker 1 (49:46):
New studies also reveal the reason that a lot of men,
especially fathers, I feel like they're no longer as energetic.

Speaker 5 (49:53):
As they used to be.

Speaker 1 (49:54):
It seems like this would be obvious as far as
the study, but the study asked a thousand dads over
the age of thirty why they think that they don't
have the same level of, you know, energy to do
household chores, exercise, anything, and a lot of them just said,
I don't know, I just feel like I can't. And
here's my favorite part of this study. By the way,

(50:14):
it was paid for by hymns dot com. Hymns dot
com is a website that sells certain things. Yeah, they
sell certain things. They're mostly known for romantic pills and whatnot.
They're saying that low T is the biggest reason that
men are struggling with fatigue and other stuff and just
getting more testosterone is going to fix all those problems.

Speaker 2 (50:36):
Matt Bear, do you want to weigh in on this one?

Speaker 5 (50:37):
Testosterone fixes everything.

Speaker 4 (50:39):
I mean, that's when you get in your forties and fifties.

Speaker 5 (50:42):
Textoscote is the elixir, that's the miracle drug right there.
I mean, even I shouldn't be saying this, even when
I thank you, Carl, even when I have regular testosterone levels,
I want more. There's some sort of desire for me
to feel like I'm in my twenties again, and that's
just not going to happen any point. But you it is.
It puts you in a better mood, It does all

(51:04):
of those things. If you have a low testosteroid and
you're a dude, that's not something. And you're a dude
like there were going to be females with if you
have lower testostero, that's something you don't want to mess
around with. You want more testosteroid, You want that to
be egal you know you do?

Speaker 2 (51:16):
Yeah, do you take a testosterone supplement of any kind
of matter? You don't want talk about? It was.

Speaker 5 (51:21):
It was making me crazy because I did have a
regular testosterone level, and all of a sudden I started
taking a supplement that's wasn't FDA regulated. No, it didn't
come from you know, anywhere overseas or anything because competing
over the counter. But it was too much testosterol, and
I was a little I was more anxious to what
I normally am.

Speaker 4 (51:42):
So let's say I gotcha.

Speaker 1 (51:43):
Yeah, were you like bursting through walls and stuff?

Speaker 5 (51:45):
Man?

Speaker 2 (51:46):
Was that what was happening there? Because you want to
try it too much.

Speaker 5 (51:49):
I tried lots of times, brick, wall, concrete.

Speaker 2 (51:52):
You know, it's whatever it takes.

Speaker 5 (51:54):
Yeah, And you're just a little more sensitive to things
that it's been years since I've done this, But you
there is a drastic effect, and it's one of those
things why it all of a sudden presents highs on a.

Speaker 4 (52:07):
Certain level, but the loads are bad too, So you
want that to be right. You want that. We always
want more, but you want that to be balanced.

Speaker 1 (52:14):
I think the biggest reason I might have an overly
large amount of interest in this is because I just
turned forty, as I've mentioned on this show before, and
I kind of want to try some enhanced testosterone. I
want to go that right, especially when I read this like, oh,
you're tired in the middle of the day it's aging
and you could just accept that as normal, or you
could load up in testosterone and see what happens. And
I feel like the second one sounds uniquely fun to me,

(52:37):
although I don't know if it actually will be. I'll
probably turn into Matt. I would like to burst through
one wall in my life, just one time. You know, like,
it doesn't even have to be a strong wall. It
can be a very weak wall. I would like to
just one time explode from one side of the wall
to the other. And I hear testosterone is.

Speaker 2 (52:52):
The way to do that.

Speaker 5 (52:54):
When I was in my twenties. Yeah, when I was
in my twenties, I tried to do a wall run.

Speaker 4 (52:58):
That was my thing. I really well, like you know,
a horizontal thing.

Speaker 2 (53:02):
Yeah, yeah, like bo Jackson.

Speaker 5 (53:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (53:04):
I hurt myself several times.

Speaker 2 (53:05):
All right, let's try it again, Matt.

Speaker 5 (53:07):
Let's do a viral video.

Speaker 2 (53:09):
You and me. We can do it to promote the
Matt and Craig Excellent podcast.

Speaker 5 (53:13):
There again, one guy runs through a wall, the other
one runs on it.

Speaker 2 (53:15):
There we are no I think both of us are
going to fail.

Speaker 1 (53:22):
Tony Kat's Morning News ninety three WIBC almost a Thursday morning.
I almost got the day wrong myself, and actually people
now until the end of the year, we'll forget what
day it is more often than another time during the
year because the holidays are upon us.

Speaker 2 (53:37):
All right, let's do a couple quick things first.

Speaker 1 (53:39):
I thought this was interesting from Secretary Bergham, Doug Bergham talking.

Speaker 2 (53:44):
About some of what has been going on in the.

Speaker 1 (53:49):
World as far as farm related projects are concerned, or
energy related products projects are concerned. He was talking about
windmill and saying that we're gonna not use some for
a bunch of different security risks. But also, and this
is the fact probably most buried in this story, one
natural gas pipeline creates as much energy as all five

(54:10):
of the projects that the Trump administration just shelve, which,
of course the left is screaming and yelling is somehow
bad and horrible and it's a war against green energy
or what the crap. But let's play some of this
audio from Fox of the secretary talking about it.

Speaker 12 (54:25):
We're sending notifications to the five large offshore wind projects
that are under construction that they're going to be their
leases will be suspended due to national security concerns. During
this time the suspension.

Speaker 5 (54:40):
We'll work with.

Speaker 12 (54:41):
The companies to try to find a mitigation. But we've
completed the work that President Trump has asked us to do.

Speaker 4 (54:47):
The Department of War has come.

Speaker 12 (54:48):
Back conclusively that the issues related to these large offshore
win programs have created radar interference that creates a genuine
risk for the US, particularly related to where they are
in proximity to our East coast population centers.

Speaker 1 (55:06):
Yeah, that seems bad when you hear it that way,
but darn it, if you're the left, you're mad because
windmills have been turned off, and again, windmills that don't
even really create the comparable amount of energy to a
simpler solution that doesn't cause any.

Speaker 2 (55:18):
Sort of radar interference. But I digress.

Speaker 1 (55:20):
That's a story that's out there that's being obsessed about.
There's also this, and I do like this a lot.
A Jasmine Crockett, politician out of Texas, someone that President
Trump has referred to as low IQ on several occasions.
She is now going to try to run to be
a Senator because of redistricting that's happened here in Texas
where I live. And certainly redistricting is a big conversation

(55:43):
in Indiana too, of course. But what I find interesting
about it is the newest attack is very much racial
in nature.

Speaker 2 (55:51):
Everyone on the left saying that if you don't.

Speaker 1 (55:53):
Vote for this person, a Jasmine Crockett, a black woman,
it's because you're racist, sexist, or both, when the reality
is it might be because she's completely and authentic as
a person. And so a few different places on social media,
on Facebook and Twitter and whatnot, put up a side
by side comparison of Jasmine Crockett talking like she's from

(56:16):
the hood and then talking like she's not from that
part of the world. And it's really interesting to hear
the juxtaposition between speaking one way and speaking another way
from someone who's saying that she's authentic and that if
you don't vote for her it's because of racism or sexism.

Speaker 2 (56:33):
I wanted to play this.

Speaker 1 (56:33):
I know this is Indiana and not Texas, even though
I live in the ladder of the two places, just
because I think that this is the problem a lot
of times in politics, the lack of people being capable
of just being genuine, either genuinely who they are or
answering questions in a genuine way.

Speaker 2 (56:50):
It is in fact a problem.

Speaker 1 (56:52):
And so whichever of these two is performative from Jasmine Crocket,
the fact that they both exist out there is her problem.
And the one thing I continue to say about President
Trump is that he's one of the most authentic people
in the room all the time, wherever he goes, whether
that place is on television or not on television, he
seems to be the same person everywhere, and that can

(57:14):
be appealing regardless of what you think is some of
the policies that someone not that I disliked them, but
even if you did, you still want authenticity more than
anything else. There's a ton of studies in media that
say how true that is. But let's listen to Crockett
show you that she's two different people at the same time.

Speaker 11 (57:29):
And that is actually what they are fearful of is
my authenticity because it rings true with every single American.

Speaker 8 (57:36):
You know.

Speaker 11 (57:37):
No one could have told me that when I went
down to Austin now looks like a little bit over
a year ago that I would be running for Congress,
say because these people and they are crazy, because they
always talk about how Christian they is. Yeah, I don't
know how many and am on that side I getting
divorced because they getting caught up sleeping with their coworkers,
staff as interns, all the thing on campus mailboxes and

(58:00):
at the time must School hires the Cochran firm and
there was.

Speaker 5 (58:04):
Okay, I got I except ate that it was like
halfway through.

Speaker 1 (58:06):
You can tell each time it transitions from someone who's
not speaking one way to someone who is speaking one way.

Speaker 5 (58:12):
How crazy it is.

Speaker 1 (58:13):
This different version of just spoken word like tone has
such an impact on I think, the perception of an individual.
And we've seen this before, not just from black politicians,
but from white ones. There were people like Hillary Clinton
who would all of a sudden have a weird extra
tone when she was speaking to certain groups. And this
should infuriate you, regardless of what side of any of

(58:36):
these political issues you're on, because the performance is the
thing that hurts us the most. The inauthenticity is the
thing that hurts us the most. It convinces us, as
the American people that the people we send to Washington,
d C. Don't care about us and will do nothing
to benefit us, and they often prove that fear to
be true.

Speaker 2 (58:54):
Let's do a little more.

Speaker 11 (58:55):
Lawyer who graduated from University of Houston, who was a
science to me, you not.

Speaker 5 (59:00):
You not we dont picking kai.

Speaker 1 (59:05):
We are.

Speaker 2 (59:06):
You can't pay us.

Speaker 11 (59:07):
Enough to find a plantation on the American people to
know that when you stand up to a bully, you win.
Do not back down, do not bend. And I'm to
be the first one you and your little praying off
of Twitter, y'all about to find out.

Speaker 2 (59:23):
All Right, that's enough, you get it, you get the idea.

Speaker 1 (59:25):
But there's so many different politicians who behave exactly this
way that it becomes the biggest reason I think that
people like President Trump are so successful with so many Americans,
even ones who might not agree with everything he actually.

Speaker 2 (59:38):
Does in office. Again, I'm not one of those people.

Speaker 1 (59:40):
I'm just trying to couch it in that because there's
some infighting in the Conservative Party right now that came
from a very different place that I'll talk about a
little bit later on in the show. But I just
think it's amazing because I think if there's one thing
I hate most about politics, it's the fakeness of it.
And that's something that you gravitate toward when people actually
convince you they're immune to that, and Trump constantly does

(01:00:02):
that all right?

Speaker 2 (01:00:03):
Quick break a lot more.

Speaker 1 (01:00:04):
Craig Collins filling in Tony Cats The Morning News ninety
three WIBC. Tony Kats The Morning News ninety three WIBC.
My name is Craig Collins filling in. You have Matt
and Carl hanging out as they do every single morning
on this show. Matt Bear the advertiser for the last
traffic that was a fencing place.

Speaker 12 (01:00:21):
What was it again?

Speaker 4 (01:00:22):
Yeah? I was fencing you as a fencing.

Speaker 1 (01:00:25):
Yes, they teach you how to fight with swords, yes,
sword fighting subally for the athletic people.

Speaker 5 (01:00:30):
Well, hold on.

Speaker 1 (01:00:31):
This sounds amazing as an advertisement or a potential sponsor
of the Matt and Craig Excellent podcast. I'm going to
be honest with you because thank you, Carl, and I'm
probably going over and above this year or this show.
We should do this in our forties, right, we should
show that you can still learn something new. I think
this would make sense with the fencing people.

Speaker 5 (01:00:49):
I would love to try this. I've always thought fencing
is really fascinating. I don't know if I have the
kind of agility, but I'd like to find out and
try it. And that's why this is compelling to me.
The problem is when I think of fencing, I think
a brave heart because that's the only images of my
head of sword fighting. So I'm kind of worried I'm
going to try to grab that sword with two hands
and run at my opponent or something like that. I

(01:01:11):
don't want to slip into that mode. So yeah, lesson
would be good on etiquette, yah, yeah, which you know,
it's funny.

Speaker 1 (01:01:17):
What I think about fencing is like the rich people
in movies that want to show that they're all so dangerous.

Speaker 2 (01:01:22):
That's what fencing does.

Speaker 1 (01:01:23):
Is like you got to have that one scene where
the guy who's who's influential and you know, well off
also happens to be good with a sword, and fencing
is the best way to do that because you can
do that in the middle of a mansion. You can
do fencing anywhere. So, you know, I want to be
that guy a little bit. I think the fencing people
could teach me how to.

Speaker 5 (01:01:40):
Be that guy. Everybody has a Hutorizo sword on the
above their mantle, you know, and something we don't have
to show it off to show how diabolical they are.

Speaker 1 (01:01:49):
Yeah, Well, because you can't have like a gun range
in the middle of your mansion. That's not going to work,
but you can't send somebody it is a great idea, that.

Speaker 5 (01:01:57):
Would be all.

Speaker 1 (01:02:00):
Just got a random shooting range halfway through a conversation
you're having, that'd be incredible.

Speaker 5 (01:02:04):
I mean, I'm not like in the kitchen or anything.
Put it there.

Speaker 1 (01:02:09):
Yeah, yeah, that'd be great. Honestly, I think I might
need to put that in some house with my own
in the future. Just in the middle of a conversation.
You got to be able to take a few shots
on your gun range.

Speaker 2 (01:02:18):
Yeah, it's just a stray.

Speaker 7 (01:02:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:02:21):
If I had a daughter and a guy was coming
over to take her on a date, I would need
to hit the gun range halfway through my conversation with
that young man.

Speaker 2 (01:02:28):
That would be perfect.

Speaker 5 (01:02:29):
Hey, on our first date, we're going to Taco No no, no, no, no,
I've got your first day plan.

Speaker 4 (01:02:35):
This is exactly what you're doing, and you're staying here.

Speaker 1 (01:02:38):
By the way, real quick, is Taco Bell a sponsor
of this radio station? They sponsor us? Okay, all right,
I went to the Taco Bell recently. I'm going to
call it the Taco Bell, and I'm disappointed. How expensive
things are specifically a Taco Bell. Like, I know it's
expensive everywhere. I know it's not their fault, but you
used to be able to get a thousand tacos for
like seven dollars at Taco Bell and now not even

(01:02:59):
close to the same thing. And I again, I consumed
it recently.

Speaker 2 (01:03:02):
I enjoyed it.

Speaker 1 (01:03:03):
I had a good time, but I'm disappointed that it
costs like twenty bucks now to have five tacos.

Speaker 2 (01:03:08):
That doesn't seem right.

Speaker 4 (01:03:09):
Twenty bucks.

Speaker 5 (01:03:11):
It's not mine. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:03:12):
I think I might have got a fancy Okay, yeah,
don't shoot the messenger here, Matt.

Speaker 5 (01:03:16):
No, I totally feel you know, I totally get you,
because while you're talking about that, I've looked up Taco
Bell Cantina, which we have downtown.

Speaker 4 (01:03:24):
Yeah, I believe.

Speaker 5 (01:03:26):
Yeah, they serve alcoholic beverages. And I'm trying to think, okay,
downtown prices and say, this alcoholic beverage came out to
be like twelve bucks, and all of a sudden, you're thinking,
I sugar go on it to keep planes for this. Yes,
I don't know, it's just so yeah, the prices go
up everywhere, and I'm just kind of going through the menu.
And first off, I don't want my burrito to look

(01:03:47):
this nice when I get it out of a Taco
Bell bag. I think that's just kind of smashed up
in all over the place. So this is definitely not
going to work. But yeahc Whale should be cheap, Taco
Bell should be cheap.

Speaker 1 (01:03:57):
It should be and I want something to look like
somebody stepped on it it in the bag for me,
because that's not I'm not eating it for the looks
of it.

Speaker 2 (01:04:03):
Yeah, okay, anyway, Another is that.

Speaker 5 (01:04:07):
I don't know what you're talking about, Carl.

Speaker 2 (01:04:08):
I'm gonna I'm gonna plead the fifth here and now.

Speaker 1 (01:04:11):
Okay, if anybody doesn't know, anybody that doesn't know, o
host Locos is a chain of restaurants in Texas that
I've recently discovered that is what a lot of people
say Latin Hooters. It's Hooters, but everybody that works there
is Latina. And I may or may not have gone
in one time accidentally, of course, getting lost somewhere on
the roads with the missus where it was lingerie day,

(01:04:35):
which is where they were wearing cont.

Speaker 5 (01:04:39):
Car.

Speaker 1 (01:04:40):
You know what's funny about that, just real quick and
this doesn't matter. I don't know why I'm talking about
this in Indianapolis radio, but I am is. I talked
about that on the radio in Texas where I am
and people called in to say the food there is
terrible and they don't care. They're like, it's awful food,
but none of us care about it. It's not like,
I know, it's not high quality, it's not delicious, but

(01:05:00):
that's not the reason that people go into that establishment,
and the restaurant doesn't seem to mind the fact that
people talk about other food's not really.

Speaker 2 (01:05:06):
That good, which seems like that's important, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:05:09):
Like the excuse with Hooters was always I liked the wings,
and the wings actually were pretty good.

Speaker 2 (01:05:13):
You can't make that same excuse other places.

Speaker 5 (01:05:15):
Yeah, but when you go to Hooters, you're not expecting
like wings Asian fusion already thing. You're just expecting, like
you said, the reason you go to Hooters, that's all
you really want. And I've never had a bad taco
in my life, so much respect for the audience, but
all tacos are good.

Speaker 4 (01:05:30):
All tacos come from heaven, and that's what they did
pretty much.

Speaker 1 (01:05:34):
Yes, right, yeah, oh yeah, no, I didn't have a
bad taco. That's crazy to say out loud. I agree
with you, man, like you can't have a bad Was
it delicious?

Speaker 3 (01:05:41):
No?

Speaker 5 (01:05:41):
Was it bad?

Speaker 2 (01:05:42):
Of course not. It was a taco. Anyway, before we.

Speaker 1 (01:05:47):
Before we take a break, and I wind up finding
out I'm divorced at some point on the show, which
I feel like could happen. One last thing I saw
that I thought was funny. Gen Z is searching social
media for jobs. Now gen Z is given up on
finding jobs the normal way, So now the way they're
doing it is they're looking on social media for someone
else that's a gen Z that says my company's hiring,
and then they try to apply that way. They're wondering

(01:06:08):
if this is a good approach that job hunting. I
think anything is good. I think it's totally fine. Probably
do it the traditional way any other way you can.
But sure, if you're just looking on social media for
job posts or news or anything, at least you're doing something.
That's my reaction to that story, But I thought it
was interesting that that's the biggest way that they say
the younger generations are finding their next job is just

(01:06:29):
looking for somebody's post on Twitter or Facebook or Instagram
or something.

Speaker 5 (01:06:32):
Well, we're not.

Speaker 4 (01:06:34):
It's not like the days with our first jobs, Craig
and Carl.

Speaker 5 (01:06:38):
I mean, I guess it's not you copy one hundred
resumes and start hitting them mount to businesses, you know,
like I would do when I was trying to get
into whatever when I was a kid. I mean, there
is a new method of doing this. It used to be,
you know, show up entirely, and that still works, you know,
if you're volunteering or trying to get a his start somewhere.
I get that, but now it is more social media,

(01:07:01):
and I believe there's less interaction. A long time ago,
I applied for a job and I got that first
phone interview, and it's very intrapersonal. I mean, I didn't
feel like I was being asked questions that nobody else
was asked. And that's fine, that's the employer.

Speaker 9 (01:07:14):
They can do that.

Speaker 5 (01:07:15):
But I'm just saying the old way is rapidly involving
into some sort of you know, less personal dynamic that
we have now. And I guess I accept that. It's
just the way it's going, you know, it's where we're headed.

Speaker 8 (01:07:26):
Man.

Speaker 1 (01:07:27):
Yeah, Well now and Feeling like you need an in
to get a job is a unique thing. Like feeling
like you need to know somebody on the inside to
get through the first round of resumes does feel like
something that a lot of people are experiencing.

Speaker 5 (01:07:38):
So I get it.

Speaker 1 (01:07:39):
If you're looking on social media to find someone who'd
be your in and then message them like, oh, you're hiring,
I need this job. That sounds like a wise approach
in some ways. Actually, all right, well, take a break.
We got traffic coming up. A little bit more coming
up in the show. Craig Collins filling in Tony Kat's
The Morning News ninety three WIBC. Tony Kat's The Morning
News ninety three WIBC. My name is Craig Collins, filling in.

(01:08:01):
Thrilled to be with you. A bunch of stuff to
talk about. The United States is ramping up some of
its pressure on Venezuela. One of the ways in which
we're doing that is having a giant armada of ships
capable of doing whatever we want him to do near
the Venezuelan border. I think that President Trump talked about
this recently and what he thinks it means for any

(01:08:24):
sort of provocative action that the country would take against us,
which seems incredibly unlikely.

Speaker 2 (01:08:29):
Here, let me play that audio first.

Speaker 6 (01:08:31):
He can do whatever he wants. I mean, we have
a massive armada formed, the biggest we've ever had and
by far the biggest we've ever had in South America.
He could do whatever he wants. It's all right, whatever
he wants to do, if he wants to do something.
If he plays tough, it'll be the last time he's
ever able to play tom.

Speaker 1 (01:08:52):
But I think that's amazing. I laugh at that because
of the matter of fact way in which he says it.
If he plays tough, it'd be the last time that
they're capable of doing that, because we'd be tougher.

Speaker 2 (01:09:03):
And that is true.

Speaker 1 (01:09:04):
By the way, Venezuela is a place that has a
ton of corruption, a ton of poverty, just horrible things
happen there. They send a tremendous amount of drugs to us. Like,
there's so many ways in which the left would consider
it to be kindness, philanthropy, whatever you want to call it,
for the United States to try to pressure Venezuela to
be a better place, like more or less, to say

(01:09:26):
it that way, the left would be thrilled about this.
The fact that it's Trump doing it means they hate it,
means they think it's horrible and terrible, and that every
boat that we blow up had to be fishers fishermen,
that somehow we're getting lost and not using a boat,
that it all is conducive to fishing, and that it
can't possibly be drug dealers trying to bring drugs into
our country or other places.

Speaker 2 (01:09:47):
I've referenced this before too. One of the weirdest.

Speaker 1 (01:09:50):
Excuses of the left uses to say that we shouldn't
be involved is that they are drugs. They are going
somewhere where they're going to hurt people, but it might
not be here in the United States. It might sort
of come through the US, but it's going to go
somewhere else, and so that means we should be okay
with it. I'm not even saying I believe that narrative.
It's just such a weird way to try to win

(01:10:10):
an argument, almost a desperate way to win an argument.
To me, it seems to be the kind of thing
they'd like if their team were the ones doing it.

Speaker 2 (01:10:18):
I also want to play this.

Speaker 1 (01:10:20):
This is audio of Trump being asked a question about
a boat that was seized in Venezuelan oil that was
seized earlier this month. He is unapologetic and saying we're
keeping that.

Speaker 3 (01:10:31):
Speaking of Venezuela oil, what are we going to do
with the oil that we have? Going to do with
what the oil that has been seized? The United States
sees one point nine million barrels of oil on December tenth.

Speaker 5 (01:10:42):
We're going to keep it.

Speaker 4 (01:10:45):
Where's it? Are we going to sell it?

Speaker 5 (01:10:46):
What strategic man We'll sell it and we'll keep it.

Speaker 6 (01:10:49):
Maybe we'll use it in the strategic reserves.

Speaker 5 (01:10:52):
We're keeping it. We're keeping the ship.

Speaker 1 (01:10:54):
So or keeping them there are and you should shut
up about this. My favorite is the fact that the
left thinks these are traps. Both sides of the political
aisle try to set traps for each other, whatever they
might be. Very often it's identic identity politics that winds
up being the trigger point on the left to get
some sort of they think trap where they've made someone

(01:11:16):
sound like a right sister or a sexist according to them.
And I think that's kind of annoying and ridiculous that
they do. But these are traps, and oftentimes Trump will
barrel right over whatever The trap is that the left
thinks it's setting and a lot of people think it's great.
They think it's wonderful to hear that version of an
answer to that kind of a question. I think that's
pretty awesome. And by the way, I will reference this too,

(01:11:38):
just quickly. And Kendall and Casey they have a promo running.
They're going to talk about it more on their show.
Trump is being covered a lot in a lot of
newsplaces for a dip in pull numbers, But if you
compare it to other presidents, a lot of other presidents
also see a dip like this at this time of
the year in their pulling, and for whatever reason, the
left never admits it when it's their side. I think

(01:11:59):
to the writes, credit to conservatives. Credit they're willing to
talk about these things and actually know it. Okay, one
last thing I want to say, I had a different
topic plan, but I won't do it. And this is
hopefully giving a pat on the back to people like
Kendall and Casey or anyone else that's willing to discuss
topics if it's their side and they don't think it
makes them look good per se. All that infighting that

(01:12:21):
happened at America Fest, at Amfest, where people are now
talking about how Tucker Carlson said one thing and Ben
Shapiro said something else, and then the Vice president took
the stage and said, let's not fight each other. Let's
all find a way to coexist. The thing I love
most about that is that it's non existent as an
idea on the left to oppose each other, but on

(01:12:43):
the right it's welcome.

Speaker 5 (01:12:44):
On the right.

Speaker 1 (01:12:45):
You can do it at one of the biggest fundraising
events in the country for conservatives.

Speaker 2 (01:12:50):
And it shows the fact that we're not a monolith.

Speaker 1 (01:12:53):
That people within this side of the aisle, and certainly
if they're taking potshots at each other, and maybe Ben
Shapiro or or whoever thinks that they're a little bit
more important than they really are in our society, and
that's part of the reason that they all fight each
other the way they do.

Speaker 2 (01:13:07):
I like the existence of that.

Speaker 1 (01:13:09):
I liked it when it took conservatives forever to pick
the Speaker of the House.

Speaker 2 (01:13:13):
I thought that was a good thing.

Speaker 1 (01:13:14):
And they all fought with each other and things got messy,
because it shows people who are actually willing to stand
to whatever their values are and still consider themselves part
of that side of the political aisle as opposed to
the opposite, which is thinking you need a hive mind
opinion on everything, and the one person who stands on
the outside, whether it's the John Fetterman's of the world,

(01:13:34):
in the world of democrats, these people are actually attacked.
These people are told they're horrible and terrible by the
things they're saying. And I think that's kind of interesting,
the right once again essentially demonstrating it's way more tolerant
than the woke left. All right, I'll take a quick
break a lot more. Craig Collins filling in Tony Kat's
The Morning News ninety three WIBC. Tony Kat's The Morning

(01:13:56):
News ninety three WIBC. My name is Craig Collins, filling in.
Thrilled to be with you, Matt and Carl, hanging out
as they do every single morning on this show. The
power ball is like one point seven billion dollars and
it's going to be drawn on Christmas Eve, I believe,
so tomorrow night, I think two things are likely to happen.

(01:14:16):
I won, nobody's likely to win, and two, somebody's buying
somebody else a Powerball ticket as a Christmas present, and
now granted you'd have to do this as something you
give away on Christmas Eve if the drawings on Christmas Eve,
because to give it on Christmas Day is going to
be terrible it's a losing ticket.

Speaker 5 (01:14:32):
Or if nobody wins on.

Speaker 1 (01:14:34):
Wednesday, maybe some people are going to rush out and
buy more tickets to give them on Christmas Day.

Speaker 2 (01:14:38):
Here's my question.

Speaker 1 (01:14:40):
If you were to gift a ticket to someone else
and they won, how much money do you want?

Speaker 2 (01:14:45):
You want all the money, half the money? What are
you thinking? It's like the old scratcher question because we.

Speaker 1 (01:14:50):
Always had somebody in the family who would give away
a bunch of lottery scratcher tickets on Christmas Eve or
on Christmas Day in the in the stocking. And the
funniest part is he'd always ask you to scratch them
in front of them. They wanted to see if you
want anything, and I think partly because the giver wanted
to know if they gave too much.

Speaker 2 (01:15:08):
But what do we think of this topic?

Speaker 5 (01:15:09):
Well, I can tell you this, if I get nothing,
I'm going to feel horrible for the rest of my
life for gifting that ticket. So I've got to get
something out of this. I want at least maybe. I mean,
it's the power Ball. I don't think one hundred k
is asking too much here, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:15:23):
Not even at all, not with one point seven billion.

Speaker 5 (01:15:26):
Come on, yeah, so roll me a check for one
hundred k will be good. You know, it's easy that
or even less fifty.

Speaker 2 (01:15:33):
Just counting out out.

Speaker 1 (01:15:34):
No, no, let's not go that way. Let's let's get
a percentage. Man, Let's throw a percent out there. Let's
not even make it one hundred thousand. Let's go like
five percent of the winnings just because I bought the
ticket and then I gifted it to you. But you're right,
I love the thing you said you're going to regret
giving that ticket forever, because the answer to that is yes,
no matter who it is you gave it to, no
matter how much you care about them, a winning ticket
for billions of dollars or at least a billion dollars

(01:15:56):
is the kind of thing you're not going to get
over giving some It's the kind of thing you'd fight
every Christmas from that point on about the fact that
you gave them that. Like the next time you opened
up some gift from them and it's like a toaster.
You're like, I gave you a one point seven billion
dollar lottery ticket.

Speaker 2 (01:16:11):
Horrible jerk.

Speaker 5 (01:16:13):
I don't see how you don't think about it every
single day of your life, every time you pay a bill,
every time you buy a couple of burgers from McDonald's
and you check your bank account. I mean, that's the
stick in your crawl for the rest of your life.
And I hate saying it like that because you're supposed
to move on from things like that, but that's something,
especially if you're struggling. Man, oh man, that could stick

(01:16:34):
with you for a while. Oh yeah, well now.

Speaker 1 (01:16:36):
And it is the way I feel when you get
scratch your tickets from somebody and they watch you scratch them,
I do feel like in the back of their mind,
like I don't want it to be a big amount
of money. I like you, I want you to win something.
I don't want it to be nothing. But if you win,
you know, twenty thousand dollars, I'm gonna be sad about this.
That's the way I felt anyway. Maybe I'm the only
one who gets lottery tickets as a Christmas thing or
has before.

Speaker 2 (01:16:56):
Have you guys ever gotten those as a gift.

Speaker 5 (01:16:58):
Yeah, and I don't want to be that guy, the
ungrateful guy. But I don't like lottery tickets. Like lottery
tickets as a Christmas gift, especially the scratch off ones,
because I don't like scratching off. And all you went
on a lottery ticket is more scratch off tickets. So
you have to go to the gas station, find the
game station. It sells a ticket and then scratch off
and woind more tickets. And that sounds like a rabbit

(01:17:19):
hole to happen. Yeah.

Speaker 8 (01:17:21):
Hey, I'm gonna ask the question the other way. What
if you won the lottery? How much money would you
give away to that person that gifted it to you.

Speaker 1 (01:17:29):
They're getting nothing, No, you'll get nothing like it. Okay,
I'd go a percent. I think a percent's okay, you know,
like they gave it to me. It's my ticket. Now
I'm not giving you fifty percent. But I think you
throw something that person's way. I think that makes sense.

Speaker 5 (01:17:42):
I'd make him earn it. Wow, do you want how there?
Do you want ten thousand.

Speaker 4 (01:17:50):
Dollars every week for the rest of your life?

Speaker 5 (01:17:52):
Well, here's your chores list.

Speaker 1 (01:17:55):
My feet needs some massaging. Look at them right there,
and then we'll see that's that's awesome.

Speaker 6 (01:18:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:18:00):
No, I would be frivolous with it. I know, I
just start giving stuff away, you know, because the other
just because.

Speaker 1 (01:18:07):
Yeah, you know the other thing that's funny about that
this is such a weird like it it will never
ever happen. It's so stupid that my brain even thought
of it for a second. But I thought about if
I won the lottery, would I tell people on the
radio that I do like here or anywhere else? Would
I go the next day and be like, I want
the lottery? And I think the answer would be yes.
And I think I would then give away a ton
of the money to people who were contacting me, because

(01:18:28):
I'd also be frivolous with a billion dollars.

Speaker 2 (01:18:31):
It would just be too much fun to be like
this was all free. I had none of this before,
and now I have all of it.

Speaker 1 (01:18:36):
I why don't we go ahead and do like a
thousand dollars giveaway on the radio the day after I win,
and I'll fund it. I feel like that's the kind
of stuff I do, which would be a terrible decision,
but nonetheless a lot of fun along the way.

Speaker 4 (01:18:47):
Man, that'll get your ratings.

Speaker 5 (01:18:51):
Single, dude, What coding show gives away a thousand dollars
every day on the seven right now? Just whatever I
felt like it.

Speaker 1 (01:18:58):
If I win a billion dollars, I'll just do it
every so often, just when I feel like it. I'll
make that promise to the WIBC audience. If I win
the power Ball the next time I'm hosting, a few
people win a thousand bucks just because thank you.

Speaker 5 (01:19:11):
You're welcome. It's easy, very generous.

Speaker 1 (01:19:15):
It's an easy gift to give right now because I
don't have it. In fact, I'm actually having to give
my Christmas bonus back to the place I work. But
that's another time. That's for another day. We talked about
it earlier in the show.

Speaker 2 (01:19:24):
One last thing before I get out of here. I
thought this was funny.

Speaker 1 (01:19:28):
A bunch of people in Montreal dressed as Santa Claus
and elves robbed a grocery store, and when they were caught,
because it's a crime, you're not allowed to commit it,
they said they were just trying to deliver stuff to
the needy.

Speaker 2 (01:19:40):
Because they were dressed as.

Speaker 1 (01:19:41):
Santa Claus and elves, they thought that would get them
out of the problem.

Speaker 2 (01:19:44):
They're like, no, it's usually a crime.

Speaker 1 (01:19:46):
But if you're dressed like Santa on the holidays and
you want to give it away, this is allowed.

Speaker 2 (01:19:51):
And apparently the police disagreed with them.

Speaker 5 (01:19:53):
Well, I mean, you know, if you're dressed like Santa Claus,
you're still in the spirit of Christmas.

Speaker 4 (01:19:57):
You can't deny that, whether you're stealing or not.

Speaker 5 (01:19:59):
That's I mean, seriously, when you look at it, how
does Santa Claus get all of his presence to begin with? Yeah, yeah,
he's not making this stuff all right, He's not going
to Macy's like two weeks before ordering on Amazon.

Speaker 4 (01:20:10):
You know, you got to cut the corners a little
bit sometimes.

Speaker 5 (01:20:13):
Sta, you didn't know that Santa Claus was a thief. Thief,
but I'm just saying he could have a minor operation
that involves getting presents to the North Pole quicker.

Speaker 2 (01:20:22):
That's yeah, he's not the thief.

Speaker 1 (01:20:24):
The the elves are. You don't have to do it yourself, man, Hey,
that's why you pay the other people.

Speaker 5 (01:20:28):
You can cut all strings in communication. You don't let
anything lead back to you. He's done this for years, decades.
He've been centered here as Wes doing yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:20:37):
Well, my favorite part of this is thinking about the
brainstorming meeting by the criminals before it. They're like, wait
a minute, if we dressed like Santa, is it still
a crime.

Speaker 5 (01:20:45):
And one of the guys is like, I don't think so.

Speaker 1 (01:20:47):
I think that's allowed then, especially if we say we're
giving it to other people.

Speaker 2 (01:20:50):
This is fine then, and so they go that road.

Speaker 5 (01:20:53):
You always need a voice of reason when you're planning
your your burglars.

Speaker 1 (01:20:57):
You yeah, invite, invite one lawyer. Are along to the
next criminal plan, all right,

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