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He's saying, remind them who they're working for, that God's
call and ultimate accountability will be to him. That is
God's call on your life, that God has gifted you,
that he has given you the things that he wants
you to do.
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This is treasure. Truth with pastor and author James Ford,
junior senior pastor of the Christ Bible Church in Chicago.
I'm Steve Hillard. Glad you're with us. As today we
continue to look at Colossians chapter four in a message
entitled Get Involved. And, pastor, I think it's so important
for us to understand that while God may have placed
us in a job where we're working for a boss,
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ultimately that individual is not the one that we are
truly working for.
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That's right. Well, you know, Paul said in Ephesians, he said,
on our jobs we're to work as unto the Lord. Yeah. Boy,
that elevates your job performance. Amen. And, uh, remember, uh,
Paul said at the judgment seat of Christ, and we're
all going to appear before the judgment seat of Christ.
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What is that pastor for? That is where we're going
to be evaluated based on the works that God has foreordained,
that we should walk in them. Ephesians 210. And so
God wants us to know he's already set forth in
eternity past the works that we're supposed to do, uh,
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here in the present, uh, or in time. And, uh,
he's going to say, okay, this is what I have
given you to do. Uh, here's what you did. Uh,
here's what you didn't do, but here's the evaluation of
what you did. And Paul said, this way he will
evaluate it based on what sort it is, whether it's gold, silver,
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precious metal, wood, hay, stubble. And here's what I like, Steve.
He didn't say he's going to evaluate it based on
what size it is. Okay, he said, what sort it is.
So for all the pastors that are listening, listen, it
is not the size of your church. It's the sort
of your church. Because I remember when I tripped and
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I had growth in my ankle, but it wasn't good
growth because it was swollen. Now that I don't have
anything against large churches. We're a mid-sized church, but I
don't have anything because some of them have grown well.
Praise the Lord for my friend Pastor Meeks and the
Salem Baptist Church, a mega church. He preaches the Word
of God. He gives the gospel of Jesus Christ. They
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have accountability, church discipline, evangelism, discipleship. And so they're a
mega church. Uh, but there's a lot that, you know,
they're going to be surprised that the Lord is just
going to say it's a great size, but not a
great sort. And so we evaluate our work. Steve had
said all that to say this, we evaluate our works.
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What is going to be the main criteria at the
judgment seat of Christ? Not just what you did. Manner
of your work. Sure. Why you did it. The motivation
I have it happen to me all the time. Somebody
standing in front of Walgreens, I give them a dollar.
Did I do that to glorify Christ or did I
give it to them so I don't have to be bothered? Well,
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you know, it all depends on what kind of mood
I'm in. Sure. You know, but at the judgment seat
of Christ, I'll find out for sure.
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Yeah, that's very true. And we all will.
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Oh, yeah. Yeah. And I was going to say that.
And so will you, Steve. But yeah, you know, I
just wanted to leave you out of it. You know,
everybody ought to take out their own garbage.
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Yeah, that's very true. And yeah, I'll be there too,
along with, well, the rest of us. But right now,
I hope you'll join us in Colossians chapter four as
we continue a message entitled Get Involved, here's Pastor Ford.
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And so here, notice it's a responsibility. It's the responsibility
of the body to encourage the body. It is not
my job alone. So I tell you all the time,
if you see somebody missing, call the office. You know,
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I haven't seen brother or sister so and so in
a long time. So that somebody can get in touch
with them and find out if they need some help.
Hebrews 1024 he says, provoke one another. The word is peroxisome,
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from which we get, you know what a paroxysm, a
paroxysm is, right? When somebody has a paroxysm, it's like
an epileptic seizure. It just comes on Sunday. And here
he's saying it's like a sudden outburst. You know what
a mother Eagle does when she wants her eaglets to
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fly before she does that. Before she does that. Because she. what?
She pulls out all of the feathers and everything that
made it comfortable, because she makes it out of thorns.
And then if they don't get out, she turns the
nest over. But usually all she got to do is
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take out the animal skin and and all the things
that made it comfortable and soft. And when them baby
eaglets sit down and get stuck, they they try to
fly away. I got to get away from here. I
thought mama loved me. But it's time to fly. Come on.
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Come on people. It's time to fly. And here's what
I hear all the time. Well, I don't think I
know enough. Who said you had to know enough? Who
said that? The woman in John chapter four. And so
what happened? I'll tell you what happened. She got saved
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and then went to Moody Bible Institute and took her
the course in evangelism, then went back to the city
and said, uh, the Roman road said, is that what
she did? No, she got saved. And she went into
the village and said, come see a man who told
me everything I ever did. That's what he did, huh? Yeah.
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So you don't need a whole lot. Here it is. Secondly. Secondly,
says confront them to instigate them. Notice. Secondly, challenge them
to involvement. It says it say to our churches, take
heed to the ministry. The word is Aleppo. It literally
means to look to something. In other words, here's what
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he's telling. Here's what he's telling us. Archippus. He was
the pastor of this church. Something caused him to look
away from the ministry. And Paul says, tell him to
look back. Look at what God had committed to his care.
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We'll see that in a minute. So something had turned
him away. Some decision. Maybe somebody damaged him. Maybe some
board meeting got out of hand. Maybe he felt like
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he was unappreciated. Maybe he was doing too much. Maybe
he was trying to make up for some of the 50%
that was doing nothing. And so. Sometimes we have to realize,
like Habakkuk had three chapters one, two, three. And so
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you look at the book of Habakkuk and what you'll
find is chapter one. He's looking at the storm. Chapter
two he's looking through the storm. Chapter three. He's looking
above the storm. Now you have to ask yourself, what
are you doing right now? No, no, I'm not talking
about your neighbor. I'm talking about you in terms of
your ministry involvement in this assembly. Are you looking at
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the problems you're looking through, or are you looking beyond
because I submit to you? Unless you're looking beyond, you'll
never make it. Because the only way to make it
is to look beyond, to see what God has called
us to do, that we haven't finished, and to say,
I'm going through all of this, and I will be
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like Habakkuk. I will stand upon my watch and wait
to hear what he will say to me when I
am reproved. See, a lot of Christians are like wheelbarrows.
No good unless you push them. A lot of Christians
are like canoes. No good unless they're paddled. A lot
of Christians are like kites. If you don't keep them
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on a string, they'll fly away. Some. Some Christians are
like a football. Never know where they're going to land next.
Some are like balloons full of hot air and ready
to blow up. Some are like trailers have to be pulled.
Some are like neon lights that go on, off, on, off.
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In other words, Esther 414. Remember what she said? Mordecai said,
look girl, God gave you that beauty for such a
time as this. I mean, you, you know, if you
don't do what God called you to do, he's going
to get somebody else. How do you know that you
weren't raised up for such a time as this? And
remember now what what what kind of time is it?
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What kind of time is it? Anybody remember? I know
you remember because I'm going to talk. Oh, okay. Okay.
It is what? It's ate at time. What is at time?
At time is purpose. Time. Purpose time. That's good, That's good.
What are the other three? Not you two. Uh, what
are the other three times? No, I was trying to
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prove a point. You know, I'm always trying to prove
a point. No, no, no, no, you be quiet. I
know you know it. Come on. I want to hear
from them. What is it? Kairos. That's right. Kairos time.
What kind of time is that? That's perfect time. That's
God's time. He works in the Kairos. What's the other one? Chronos. Alright.
Chronos time. And what is that? That's people time. That's right.
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Come on. What's the other kind of time? Eschatos time.
Eschatos time. What is that? Prophetic time? Prophetic time? Those
are the four kinds of time. And I tell you
all the time, there is no hammer time. And so
he says, for such an act as this, that this
is the time Christ's Bible Church, we are on the
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precipice of what God wants to do in us. See,
the people, uh, you know, and I'm only doing this, uh,
because he's one of the newest and that's that's that's, uh,
Elder Anthony. Okay. Look at what God is doing with
our singles ministry. We had none, and now they've been
out evangelizing. And a couple weeks ago, they led two
people to Christ. They've been involved in helping other ministries.
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I mean, remember what I told you? New people are
not an intrusion. They're an infusion. We are doing things
because God led that man here that we've never done before,
and it's moving us forward. Amen. Amen. And that's what
you bring to the table. You bring your giftedness. You
bring the things that God has put in your heart
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and spirit. And you're in a church where you can
do it, where you don't have a pastor that's holding
you back, that gotta control everything. Amen. You have freedom
and liberty to fulfill together the plan of God and
the vision that he's given to us. And the tragedy
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is some of you are still sitting on some of
the most powerful stuff that hasn't even been released yet.
And when we get to heaven, you ain't going to
be able to blame me. That's right. Because God knows
about this sermon. God know how often I've been in
35 years of ministry. I've only started one thing in
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this church. You know what that is? Sites. Every other
ministry was started by somebody who said, God is leading
me to do this every ministry. And so if you're
sitting on your giftedness, the ministry, guess what? The word
is diaconate. It is. It is the word from which
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we get deacon. And it literally means double worker. Double worker.
So every deacon deacon knows this ought to be chosen
because they're double workers. Yeah.
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Jeremiah was telling the story of a woman whose daughter
was ill and the prescription was needed, and they called
the doctor that night, and the doctor called it in
to the pharmacy. And she went and was in such
a hurry to get the medicine that she left her
keys in the car and locked her keys in the car.
So she came out. Oh no, oh no. She got
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a hanger trying to do it. And she said, Lord,
please help me. She had just finished the prayer. When
around the corner came a big burly guy with a beard,
you know, looked like a like a, like a motorcycle
gang dude. And he said something wrong. She said, oh, well,
I locked my keys in the car. He said, oh,
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you know, opened her car. She said, wow. Do you
know I pray for you? And I almost rejected God's
answer to my prayer because I the way you looked,
I say, how'd you do that so fast? He said, well,
you know, I just got out of prison yesterday. Uh, and, uh,
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you know, I was in prison, uh, for stealing cars.
She said, I need to thank God, she said. He
grabbed she grabbed his hand and said, Lord, I thank
you for answering prayer. And you even sent me a professional. Amen. Hey,
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that's it, man. That's it. You are God's professional. I
can't do what God gifted you to do. I'm gifted
to do what I'm doing. I need to stay in
my lane. I need to listen. Listen. I don't know
whether you know it, but there are people here who
know when I haven't had time to study like I
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usually study. They told Paderewski. You don't. He's the great
piano player. You don't need to practice. Dude, he said
if I miss a Miss of practice. Then I know it.
If I miss more than one, everybody else going to
know it too. And that's what it is. And so
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you are God's professional. See, the doors are locked in
ministry and we're jamming them and we're pulling. But God
sent you because you know how to use the coat
hanger of your spiritual gifts to unlock the door of
opportunity for the gospel of Jesus Christ. He says, listen,
here's what I want you to do. Confront them. To
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instigate them. Challenge them to evolve. Here's the third one.
Change their insight. Notice this, he says, which thou hast
received in the Lord. What do you mean, change their insight? See?
Because sometimes, pastor, why? Why don't you tell people I
want you to do this? I want you to do that.
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Why do you say, hey, this is a possibility? Would
you pray about it? Because I don't want them to
think that they're doing it for me. Amen. Amen. They
are not doing it for me. If you're doing it
for me, you need to stop because it ain't going
to help you. It ain't going to help me. And
it definitely not going to help the church. He says,
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let them know this this thing came from the Lord. Uh,
he's saying, remind them who they're working for. That God's
call and ultimate accountability will be to him. That is
God's call on your life that God has gifted you,
that he has given you the things that he wants
you to do. Ephesians 210. We are his workmanship, created
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in Christ Jesus unto good works. Who can finish it?
Which God hath foreordained that we should walk in them?
That God hath foreordained, that we should walk in them. Mm.
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And so here it is God's call on your life.
So ministry is not something we do for God. It's
something God does in and through us. Hebrews 1320 and 21.
It says, God shall establish you. The word is. Did
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anybody remember when we spent four sermons studying one word?
Anybody remember that? From which we get the word artist
in the middle. Cardiology comes from that word. And what
does it mean, remember? Matter of fact, in this Bible study,
because we said, Carter. To do what? To mend a
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broken bone. Reset the bone. My star pupil sitting up
in the front. Then it meant what? To reset a
broken bone. What does that mean? It means that sometimes
in ministry, I mess up, I break a bone, and
God says it's going to be painful. But now it'll
grow back. You'll heal and I'll use you again. And
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then I go mess up again. Sister Mendoza, you got
to snap it back in. It's painful. It hurts, but
it heals. But then it also meant to mend a
broken net. You say? What do you mean? That this
is a fishing? Like. Like if you're going fishing, fishermen
go for a specific fish. They know what the fish want.
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They put it on the line. When you net fish,
you don't know what you're going to get. Come on,
sister Denise. Am I right about it? You don't know
who and what you're going to get, you know? And
so what happens? Your net breaks and he says, listen,
when it comes to you, me, our cod, our Tiso,
I'll reset the broken bone when it comes to ministry.
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I'll mend the net again. I'll mend the net again.
Then Carter Tiso meant equipping a soldier to go out
to battle. And so he says, look, you put on
the whole armor of God and there's none for your back. Why?
Because God don't want any coward soldiers. But don't worry,
your back is covered because goodness and mercy.
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Shall follow me all the days of my life.
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And then the fourth was to outfit a ship for
a journey, giving the ship everything that was necessary to
make the journey. That's his promise. Thank you God. Wow.
Billy Graham was asked one time would he do anything else?
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And he said. He said, I'm a servant of Jesus Christ,
and I would not stoop to be a king or
the president of the United States. He said, that's a
step down. It's a step down. And I tell everybody,
you know, I hey, I was just with the Minnesota
Vikings and, uh, you know, they asked, you want some autographs?
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You want mine. I don't collect autographs. What I do
is way more important than what they do on that field.
They ought to be asking for my autograph.
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Amen.
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Amen. Because what I do has eternal consequences. I ain't lying.
And my kids just convinced me. Dad, you're going to
all these teams. You ain't taking no pictures, man. We
going to put them on Facebook. I said okay, okay, okay,
I'll start taking them. I'll start taking them. But yeah, yeah, yeah.
You know it's like I ain't impressed. Mhm. Here's the
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last one. Completion should be the intent. Uh you say
what are you talking about. He says that he fulfill it.
The word is plural. Say plural. It literally means to
fill it up till it can't be filled anymore. In
other words, man, we need to get to the place
where we are, like the Apostle Paul. What did he say?
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I have fought a good fight. I have kept the faith.
I have finished the race, and therefore there is laid
up for me a crown of righteousness, which the Lord
has preserved for those who love him, and those who
love his appearing.
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