Episode 176: Summer Rush with Frank Schultz, Matt Herkstroeter, and Connor Owen

In this episode, I'm joined by Frank Schultz, Matt Herkstroeter, and Connor Owen. Summer has been busy as hell, so we're all over on topics from truck tires to rafting to prepping for sheep hunting. Enjoy!

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That's how you do it. Welcome back to
Thunder talk, everybody. I'm Tyler real and gotta
remind these Der looks to get their... Get
their minds out of the gutter. Got
doctor Frank Schultz.
Matt Har sc and
mister Xi man, Connor Owen. Oh. They're those
southern copenhagen.
They're Beg to differ. There 3 3 all,

(04:20):
mister. I'm not on Nicotine. Is that high
high test? No. This is lower the lowest.
What's in the highest is 6. Some of
them are go, like, 12.
8 or 12. Why would you not just
use 12? Well, because I'm trying to get
off of. So you just go from, like,
12 and then you win yourself down? Those
that for you?
Not probably not as bad as dip. I
mean... So what number does copenhagen have?

(04:43):
I don't know when you got w that
big. 6
installed, yeah. 6000000.
I tried... Well, when I was
the several times I'd... Before I finally just
had to go cold Turkey,
I'd get those Be like, oh, yeah. This
will help me quit and I ended up
with, like, 4 or 5 of them in
my mouth and same time and a copenhagen
on the others other. And then I'd be
like, I just want the real thing.

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Yeah. But that's alright. Because you're you're dipping
Copenhagen copenhagen. Right. Yeah.
A long time. It's been a long time
and for me too. 2 years. I went
to the plumbing store the other day and
dudes like,
pop, pop pop.
Like, greg behind the counter.
Pulled out a fucking g.
G winter green and throws it in. And
I was just like,

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and just been like he looks me like,
what the fuck. And I was like, oh,
man. Every time I see somebody put a
dip in. It makes me I like what
different way shirt at off like trolling.
The I was like, oh, man.
No Just talking about it makes my mouth
water. Yeah. I have a boss that dipped
copenhagen and snuff. Yeah.

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And I can't stand people who dip Copenhagen
stuff, but he... Why? Because it just fucking
gets everywhere in their teeth and he's always
It's like on his shirt and like it's
not like, he'll be talking to you like
that again.
So yeah.
But be done someday.

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Yeah.
Anyway, we might as well just keep her
rattling on. But, yes, Matt, those are my
Hulu saw. I got that whole lot of
them
for a pretty good deal on the ebay.
I had to quit going to the antique
store because they're gonna get wires that I
was cutting up cut them all up.
I came over here. Was it. It was
last winter. Yeah. I'm like, what are you
doing? It's like, I'm my Canoe? I'm like,
that's a good that's a good idea. I'm

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like, where'd you get those? Because,
antique store downtown. So I went down there,
and
I was I I was like, these is
Wendy got. I them right where you go
to get them. So I go up the
check couch man. He's to getting really popular.
There's a guy in here the other day,
I like 3 of them.
Everything
their build houses. I specifically
Specifically told. Freaking ish You

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you started a contracting business. I specifically told
him, like, make sure you don't tell her
you're gonna cut these She was like. What
you gonna use for? Like, I just like
manual labor
Right. Or say you're gonna paint your painting
them or something. I don't know. Yeah. I'm
an artist.
You are hulu artist. That's the I can
say. But

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no. They...
Yeah. I've been... I made Kirby a couple
of them.
You wanted a couple of them. They work
good, man. I still... I mean, I've got
the 2 that I mainly use, but
for flushing and stuff The other original till
you have made.
1 of them is. Yeah. Yeah. 1 of
the bigger ones. I don't... I've got 1...
I made 1 that's real big
and,

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and I don't use that 1 very much.
But I use, like, my tiny 1, the
most and then Mh. The bigger size 1.
They don't... You'll you'll have them forever. Oh,
yeah. It's not like you're gonna sharpen down
enough. No. I mean, the teeny tiny ones
like, like, you can tell it's been used
pretty hard, but like pretty far as like
getting small sharpen.
Skip finally, like, a couple years goes down
there. He's like, I just made myself a

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new batch of.
Because he because I used the same ones
for years. Yeah.
But
they sharpen pretty easy. Yeah. Really easy. The...
Well, and you want the... These old antique
blades did like, what they like, Yeah. They
they kept that that wobble Yeah.
Because the whole... They used to temper from
what Skip told me anyway. They used to
temper the whole blade.

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And and then you, like,
chi them or
or
be a man and get, like, electric 10
snips
cut them out which that's like not at
super easy sometimes either, but
it'll all keep your 10 pretty fast. Yeah.
So I think this set I have is...
Smoke. Is pretty old, but can get new

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cutters for them. Yeah.
Anyway...
Yeah. And then, like, I I actually started
use, like, angle grinder to, like, knock, like,
smooth off the edges and put the rough
edge on there and just use, like, my
belt sharpen and I can get him freaking...
Use nasty sharp. And then when I'm using
them Might just use a steel, like a
Victorian not still touch it up
to touch it up because you're...

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Like, you're... You know, you're cutting away and
you end up, like, folding the burr and
then just kinda resetting that burr. And every
once in a while, like, like, gotta go
back and just totally reset the edge
because you're just freaking hammer on it on
that steve. How do you
reset the edge did you run it through
the? Like sharp thing. Yeah. Sharp thing or
if I need to because I like to

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have a really shallow angle it's a single
bevel.
So it's like not sharpened on 1 side,
Only sharpen on 1 it. And you... When
you hammer on it with a steel, you...
Inherently, like, yeah. Shorten that up. Yep. And
so I'll go with a grinder or, like,
if your patient, like, a work workshop belt
sharpen. Mh. And, like, lay that you want
just to
put the bevel back. The bevel back, you

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kinda real low angle or whatever. Real low
angle nose. It's not easy to hand sharpen
a knife and keep
your 19 degrees or whatever now. Whatever it
is, the your... Whatever your blade is.
That's what's nice about this workshops though as
you can... Change for... 25 to 20 degrees.
Yeah. You can just... It's consistent. Yeah. Pretty
much all your time. But I made a

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couple and they're fucking sharpest shit, man. They...
I have
it's like a knock off to whatever the
other 1 is... Mine's a Smith, I think.
But it's, like 1 of those things it's
like a t, and you clamp the knife
into it. You can, like, re tune till,
like, I think there's, like, 4 or 5
different. I have a I have a 1
lance landscape for landscape. Exactly. My got Smith,

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but it's the same fucking well, I got
1 of the work charm, like, knock off
was sa ones or whatever that clamp the
blade and then you can, like,
precision like,
adjust a screw to set your angle, and
then you just run the stone. Yeah. Exactly
like, different grits. That doesn't really work on
those because you can't hold them right, But
I found then brought heads. When I'm on
a stone,
I inherently wanna like.

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So if I just, like, hold it back,
and I do a couple of, like swipe,
you can see on that, like, I'm not
hit. I'm not like,
flat. And if you're really, like,
can't pay attention. Just take a sharpie and
Yeah. Learn a
and say that. Like, do a couple of
swipe and then look at it and be
like, holy shit. I'm like, way too steep.

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I'm way too. Yeah. A lot of times
you're waiting too shallow and you're not even,
like, getting out to the edge. I literally
sharpen this thing every single day, like and
I've got to the point where,
like, I'm, like, it's about
back day too. Not even, like, I don't
send them back until all this. Array is
gone. Oh, gotcha.
But
I've been getting good at this. This is

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thick for his short as latest. Leather skeletal
tool very blade very thick blade, and it's
not a real easy blade sharpen, but I
got... I've gotten really good at it over
the years.
And does it hold an edge for... I
mean,
it did hold of edge for weeks if
you're, like, a normal.
Person that carries a pocket knife for around,

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but I use this thing as a pry
bar. Yeah. Like I'm using it every single
day at least 10 times.
So
it gets hammered on. So I sharpened it
every single day. I lost going the other,
but I just got that. This less winter.
Matt nice fancy bench made.
But I like that blade. Yeah.
I've been wanting 1 of those for a

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while.
Os design bench made.
This? Silver button.
No. That's the 1 that opens it. Yeah.
Is that a bench made as well? Yeah.
I thought I lost that in the snow
battle of the titans... Battle of the titans.
So it's like, everybody wait right here. I'll
be right yeah. Well, then back. I had

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1 source made to Leather.
My other bitch made I lost. It was
similar to that, but it had
serrated...
The lower part of the blade was serrated,
Which I didn't really like.
But I ended up losing it. I... Because
what happens is you put them in your
pocket, my seat belt. Oh, yeah. Seat belt
jacks the clip up, and then I flying

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you lose. And I I don't know where
it went. Like, I honestly can't find it.
I'm assuming Lot happened. I've lost a couple
nice bench made
doing that may the rest. You haven't had
to sharp too many times. Some couple maybe.
Shit yeah. There's, like, you can still see
the factory. Yeah. I've probably... I've touched it
up a couple times. Yeah. But I use
use that thing a strip wire with. The

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the bump, the bumps in tin foil with
it the other day.
The black.
My wife was like, a rapid corn because
my birthday was last weekend. I'm wrapping corn
to put on the grill.
Tin foil, and she's got 1 of those,
like, you pull it off the deal and
you're supposed to slide... That's stupid thing. I
was getting so ticked off.
I just got my knife out. It's just

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cutting it because it... She goes use that
knife for everything. I'm, yeah. Picking my toenails
nails.
My fingernails, cut my steak with it. Strip
wire with it.
She's like,
that's gross.
But well, I'll tell you where all our
missing knives are is the well, it's the
bum the stole the arctic ovens

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We're were talking. So what was the deal
like that? Because that tent tarp or it's
not Tent tarp anymore. Had there.
Yeah. So Ask gear company here in Fair
banks, say,
they're relatively told the new fair banks, but
they've kinda been around a while. They have
this nice. They had, like, an outdoor so
area. At the old C machine building. Right.
Kinda there over their back. Fred. Ours East
and they had a they had an outdoor

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show area
where they would showcase their their their tents
because ours know like me when I wanna
go and buy a 10. I wanna know
what the space difference is between is a
an 8 foot 10 and 12:10 10 and
12 foot 10 and 10 foot 10. So,
they would put them out there and they
to put the stove there out there and
he could walk in and they turn them
on and, you know, was a selling point
for them.
But,

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Homeless guys got smart and figured out that
they were putting them outside and not putting
away during the wintertime.
And I guess they came in 1 day
and all their art
God.
So and you see the arctic ovens and
we're there by the old These... Or buy
behind the land the universe find the university,

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deal moving on up from the cardboard house
to the... These I'm sure I'm sure Ask
a gear company would not want those things
back, but, you know,
Dirty mike and the boys.
Thanks very much.
No.
Thanks to doctor S. Have you seen 1
of these little deals?

(15:14):
Oh, I do. No. I haven't. Got
That's pretty sweet. Let maybe to where you
got those things, but, you, where did you
get Remember you set, like, a picture of
them or something, and then,
yeah. That's freaking rad. Who makes that?
Was it mountain project? Mountain project. That's exactly...
Oh, I've seen their stuff, but a. I
have a little minute miniature avalon. That thing

(15:34):
is pretty cool. Things are fucking sweet. Well,
those guys based out of a, like, at
Montana or yeah. Montana. Yeah. I know. No
clue. All I know is that I I
saw some of a bitch. I, like, stumbled
onto it on Youtube or something like that?
So where do you get the blades for?
From number from Amazon.
It comes with a blue in, but they're...

(15:55):
No. Just number 24,
the 1 it came with number 24
set scalpel blade. Okay. Dude, like, a pack
of a hundred on Amazon is like 10
bucks. Well, that's sweet bucks. Like, I'll never
ever
No. That's what I do for my avalon.
Yeah. That's what I do for my Avalon
blades. It's just order like those
because they're...
Avalon are 30 alpha. Right?

(16:16):
Well, 6... They're 60 60. Some of them
are 6... They're 60 x t's, some of
them are 68.
Okay. But, like, size 60, which is too
long to fit in this. Night. Yeah. Mh.
But still, like, I mean, as much as
cool as h are, like like, I have
serious or regret over
night whatever a dollar a piece you're paying
for the blades. You can literally buy whatever

(16:37):
size shutter bag or a 500 or whatever.
Stainless or these ones are carbon steel. I
wanna try carbon steel, scalpel... Like surgical scalpel
blades
for, like, freaking 10 or 12 bucks. Yeah
This thing's tiny. It's light.
I saw him and I was like, I
gotta have them. I was like, I'll older
1 for me and 1 for Tyler. How
much do they cost? I want to. I
don't even remember. They're cheap. 20 something bucks

(16:59):
man I don't need to. That's such a
nicer like... But the thing is I went
to order it. And they're fucking all on.
Sold. I waited for, like, 4 months or
something like that. Oh. That'd be a cool
night for, like keeping your, like, vinyl harness.
Yeah exactly. Exactly Yeah. I mean, just to
have on you all the time, like, in
you're buying an harness or rail like that.
Like, no per, like, cut up a whole

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cheap. No problem. No problem at all. Yeah.
That's an awesome, like, yeah. Sheep sheep knife.
And the blades are a little shorter, but
honestly, on the avalon ones you're not... If
they got a deeper belly, the avalon you're
not using the hole, like, surface of the
blade anyway. Yeah. Just the end of it.
Man.
I'm not have to order 1.

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Bet hurry. I bet they're already together gonna
be sold out and looking at right now.
Exactly.
We're look at up right now. The last
time I was like, oh, wait a minute,
and then I was like fuck
gone. All of them.
Yeah. Because Ordered twice as many the second
time. I totally forgot when
Yeah. I totally forgot a bottom, and you
brought that. Was like that. It's fucking cool.

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Yeah. No. They're nice. They're really nice nice.
Little... I don't it's not it's not spring
assist, but it's got a little, like, flick
assist opener. Yeah. I'll know that cooperate operate
open. For sure.
Tend into locks. So that's a nice locks
in it's... You know, like, it's got more
durable, Scott. The had no the had, like
green and black and orange. But they're like,
z 10 or so whatever that synthetic 10

(18:23):
grip scale that thing down on a fucking
rock and it's gone.
I have the big 1
like.
Yeah.
Yeah. I got 1 of the original stainless
steel h.
I do too. And I lost it. Boost.
Oh, really? Wintertime. Like I have 1 of
the the handles cracked
and I'm like,
I mean, I... I've used it every, like,

(18:44):
every year. Yeah. But
I don't know. I think this is smaller
lighter.
I like it. But. Mini x games scalpel.
There you go. Mini x games scalpel.
I like it.
Add the cart.
Connor getting the Else want 1. You want
1 Matt. Yeah. You're birth.
If they're on their order, help pay. How

(19:05):
much are that? That's your birth 30 bucks.
Okay. Right on. Yeah. Yeah. Do you like
what have wants 30 bucks. This is a
way better, it's a way better knife. Yeah.
For sure. Oh, that's freaking cool. Yeah.
Gotta save that weight man, You know, every
ounce counts? Oh Right? I used to cut
my toothbrush in half.
Now I still buy a smaller tooth. Right.
I still have 1 that's cut in half.

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Always look at, yeah. I'm like, I just
keep using it.
He's like, it just gets better. Already use
it. Okay?
He's get get We care when I took
carrie of Sheep on. I've
first not pulling that out to brush my
teeth. She's like,
what happened to here handle. I was, like,
got wait.
Like, fucking kidding me.

(19:47):
It's like, well, probably doesn't matter. You ridiculous
when someone calls you out and, like, Really
did. Yeah yeah.
Like, yeah. You you are kinda right. You're
right. Right.
This my my silly.
I kinda like, the travel ones because they
got that locked tab on the end that
you can hold.
You know, if you if you just cut
it off, that again maybe you cut off

(20:08):
the 1.
The motion and and then Connor can go.
Right? Yeah.
Thanks yeah. I can't I can't get even
know. You're not getting now. So
it's like the like the the the whisper,
like the Hawk 2 whisper. Yeah.
God that fucking girls life changing the overnight
on.

(20:29):
I need... Goddamn damn. They salty a girl.
At Fred Myers. They got travel toothbrushes. Dip
fold into the handle. Yeah.
And then their full light. And it's, like,
it's this long and self folded it out
and it closes itself. It's, like, contains it
inside the The toothbrush is, like, in a
case and then the case turns into, like,
the handle for Toothbrush. Yeah. I've got I've

(20:51):
upgraded.
Pretty so I look about this shit, 2
dollars and 50.
Said about an 8 dollar toothbrush hack. Fucking
saw nav. If I could put her on
the band side dollar we can fucking handle
off of it.
We gotta do that now so you can
afford your freaking 8 dollar in
8 dollar

(21:11):
little squeeze bottle of mayonnaise.
Regular your barbecue.
Holy shit. Can't even go buy groceries for
less than I
walk in there and it's a couple hundred
bucks. You know. I did I did kind
of sport yesterday. I bought 3, like, pork
butts, like s bone in pork butts.
They're on sale for
99 cents a pound.

(21:32):
So, like,
3... You know, the 3 of them was,
like, 30 at Costco or It fred.
They must just had left so must you're
you're counting your moose before they hatch.
Well, you know,
Yeah. Sometimes you gotta jump on it. It
was like it was, like, 90 dollars off.
So
no by. It's like, poor It was, like

(21:53):
poor prices.
So I couldn't buy 10 pounds of fucking
hot dogs for 10 to always like, it
was like nineties prices. Yeah. I decided.
Yeah. You ain't kids. Know about that. Yeah.
I think I still have box, like 60
pounds support fat.
A full box never even tapped into. Nice

(22:16):
in the freezer.
Nice. I don't think we cut in any
fat love my moose last year.
We didn't burger but for making for making
sausage sausage and The bare sausage I quit
add adding anything to it.
It's got enough on its own. Yeah. I
know that g to it. Yeah. The time
I tried I tried adding, I added some
and it just, like, wasn't

(22:37):
wasn't... The breakfast sausage especially, like it just...
Is like breakfast sausage just grind. I just
leave the fat whatever fats on the meat.
Which is not a lot in the spring,
but I just leave whatever fats on there
and grind it up with the meat. Mh.
It works partly because I'm lazy. But
0II need to bring something up real fast.
I was called out on a previous caught

(22:59):
podcast, and I just wanna clear
here or you were here? Were Was I
was not here. Okay. Nice. Alright. There was
a a situation that what I tell you
out on? Not you. It was a it
was another gentleman. He's not here right now.
So here I really. I won't confront him
about it, but there was a bear that
was taken, and I was apparently shaking in
fear.

(23:19):
And I was not shaking and fear I
was shaking because of adrenaline. Oh, Jed.
The next time you see your son. Tell
him I was not shaking his out. Scared.
Hey. That's that's alright. He he ditched me.
He ditched me down fishing this winter. He's
like, come on, dad. Just leave him.
Everybody's
We I broke down and he's like, come

(23:40):
on, dad. Let's go fish. Just leave. Out
yeah.
I do.
You know.
Yeah. We gotta watch him, He'll throw you
the bus. Yeah we have to stop for
these people.
Like, I'm suddenly they're listening that we show
these. Was like, yeah. Connor was shaking. I'm
like,
what?
Being didn't perhaps but Connor was really excited

(24:01):
for me and he was shaken. It was
no. Like, Connor was shaking in fear. That's
not what happened. You guys don't worry.
When he curse, he blames me for whatever
me.
You guys fireworks worse,
but he frank, and it's not even shit
that I've ever said in front of us
yeah. He just throws me right under the
bus.

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Yeah. That 1 is funny. I he hit,
like, someone passed fate... Where we're were at
Moose. It was moose camp faith texted, like,
told me what happened they we're driving down
the highway and someone like, made an illegal
pass. Something like, just blue bio him and
he's, like, that son of ABITCH.
She's it out.

(24:44):
Yeah. It's Where'd we hear that? Say poke
frank?
I'm like,
when do I say so bitch? Like a
shit fuck guy, you know.
So it's been funny at watch the kids
group. So this... It was also like this
springtime.
You know, that song play that funky music.

(25:05):
Yeah. It's like the kids that Lewis have
been playing on Pandora or something and Sadie
was singing it. We're all, like, in there.
I'm sitting in my... I'm sitting in my
chair and we're all, like, just before dinner
or something and Sadie singing it and Jed
standing over here.
And she's, like, sings a course where he's
like, no. It's played that fucking music.

(25:25):
In front of every everybody of my wife
just turns around. Like god like,
you. And then while. I'm, like,
send a text. I'm like, Oh, sorry. Right,
and then I'm like,
fuck, like, when key he never heard me
say that. It's like,

(25:46):
bullshit.
Faith responds me. She's like, It's the funny
thing I ever heard about light.
Yeah. And then Sadie, she's... Like, she gets...
She gets mad all the time. She'll just
any... Where any anytime she just gets suddenly
mad. You'll hear shit.
What was that?
Nothing.

(26:08):
That's.
Oh,
she called, she called her little brother as
shit muffin.
Come on.
Man like how do you not having like...
Yeah. Oh, it's hard. It's hard to, like,
rep it. Like, there's no way. Like you're
just like, shit, do I supposed to laughing
or do I like like get better. Yeah.

(26:29):
It's not easy and
But Why I just say that. You say
it all the time, Like... Anyway, yeah. Jed
Right. Jed will throw you under the bus
for sure.
Yep... Yeah. We pulled you there, but we
were we were driving out, like,
sled out to go ice fishing and
come along Matt broke down on the side
of the trail and we'd stop and talking

(26:50):
that... I mean, we're there for, like, 5
minutes and dev, like,
we should just leave him dad. Yeah. Right
in front of you. Yeah. I heard. It
was funny because faith kinda looked at me,
and I was just like, I... I mean,
Thought it was funny. I wasn't offended by
it. Yeah. That was just like,
I was like, oh, yeah. Wait to throw
me under of the bus, jay.
Just just just just ditch ditch me here.
Yeah. You know? It's like,

(27:11):
mean. Yeah. So before we light, we
yeah. Get too, like, 1 other. So the
kids... They put...
Fear factor on, like, it's like, on Netflix
or
Amazon or something so. Like, I was like,
oh, kids you gotta watch this show from,
like, talk about blast from the past, like,
young Joe Rogan. You know, yeah yeah
would yeah. Yeah that's she he was the

(27:32):
host. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like, watch it toll
nineties, you know, But... So watch a couple
episodes and yesterday. I was watching if Face
was working and they wanted the kids Like,
we wanna play fear factor, like, do a
fear factor for us and a I see
Jed out the window this video, like he's
training
right.
He's looking at job. He's left my spare

(27:53):
tire.
Trailer.
Do, like, overhead list.
But I Yeah.
So I planned it all like, all day.
I figured and maybe after faith keep home.
Was like, alright. We gotta do fear factor
and did it just like the show. It's
like, your first challenge.
You gotta go into the crawl space with
the lights off for a minute.

(28:15):
By yourself oh, maybe over where I have
ring the bell. Yeah. Well I had... It's,
like trap door, you know, get down there
and then shut the door and lights go
off and you start the time, and they
both did that. And then
I went and I we had to go
to fred and I got. They saw me
get the the Sardines were like a D
boy, because both those kids hate... They say
they hate beans.

(28:37):
So I, like, do next challenge. You either
eat 1. I had, like, the sergeant... I
had like brought them in, had the Sardines
on a plate. It's like you either eat
1 Sa
or it was like, half a coffee cup
full of, like, bushes baked beans.
They're like, they're free,
we'll do the beans.
And I do have 3 minutes, and they

(28:58):
couldn't do it. Jen's like shovel a big
bite his he's like, boom.
They don't like bushes bacon no.
And that's gonna surprise
Because was people standard like. Yeah. Well, I
thought I thought what would happen is they'd
be like, oh, gross in the need them
and be like, oh, actually, we do like
these are pretty good. Right. But, no. Jed

(29:19):
was like,
Like, dr out his mouth but still like
eating freaking candy with bacon. Yeah They are.
That's all I man.
So for whatever... Yeah, whatever,
stresses life gets you down, man. Those kids
are pretty funny. Yeah.
Was funny. Bell enjoy it because they grew

(29:40):
up quick. How'd your kid now? He graduated
this year. Dylan dude. He's my youngest. Yeah.
Dang.
I remember seeing him that Bow certification class.
Yep. He was, like, he's taller than me.
No shit.
Yeah. How old was he when I saw
you guys. You were like... I think he
was 8 when he was 2015.
So now you're getting his hand down. No.

(30:01):
He was... You the 16 maybe?
No. He was younger than. I think you...
No. Because he... Like, he killed that big
bear when he was 11. So he was
either 10 or 11. You get the... Cheese
that doesn't case... That doesn't seem that long
ago. It doesn't. Well, had to be old
yeah, because they don't even let you take
hunter safety till you're 10. Yeah.
When And he... I think he did that
all around the about the same time. Yeah.

(30:23):
That makes sense.
Yeah yeah. And then
you know, daughter she'll she'll be 21
this October? He guys but... Do you have
you more? You just know just the 2?
He, bet. Be empty nest.
We're gonna do with over time. I got
plenty of things. Right?
Catch up.

(30:46):
Need to sell the house, downside. Is that's
what I wanna do.
But then I'll be Frank.
Building all summer long, probably.
Maybe 2 summers,
Maybe do do whatever summer,
Oh, this one's gonna be knocked out. Hopefully,
somebody's in that place by November. What's in
October? So you got... It's framed sighting on

(31:08):
what's in there? Not just bare bones. Yeah.
Are you gonna keep it that way?
Are you gonna put flooring down or, I
mean, you're renting it out. Right? Oh, fuck
gas. Okay. He didn't have any of the...
Finish installation or she rock or nothing do.
But I'll be done.
I figured by the end of next week.
I'll have
finished we just gotta run the wires in
the lid,
and then

(31:29):
I gotta put vapor barrier up and
drywall wall, and then I gotta blow the
insulation in. Because truss Right. Blow the installation
in. But all the sighting done except for,
like, 3 feet on 1 gable end where
I can climb in and out to blow
the installation in.
And
I'll have to be the back boy again.
Then it's all...
Then it's all

(31:50):
just do the wiring and then ins it
and
just gonna ask you do any
inside it yet. Minus the panel. It's about
to happen though. Yeah.
How did you ins inflate the floor? Did
you ins inflate the floor? You... Yeah. Yeah.
So did you... You didn't...
You framed in place and then you
put this Tj dji so the...

(32:11):
So we put half inch plywood
include half inch plywood in the bottoms of
the T g Not a little ledge they
create. Okay. And then insulated it, and then
put 3 quarter inch tongue groove Plywood on
the deck, and then we stretched the tarp
over it and dial it on,
staple it on. Right. So that if it
rained,
that wouldn't get in your shit nicely.

(32:32):
Sealed.
It's like, an r 30 floor Right. Sealed.
And I just like, gets wet. It'll never
dry. Right. So we kept it dry. Nice.
Yeah. It only rained 1 time before we
had the roof on. Yeah.
And
now it's just like, I just wanna... Then
I foam... I did an inch and a
half a foam on the outside. Boom, man.

(32:53):
So there's no... Cold transfer
inside the studs. Yeah. Yeah. On the studs,
and then
side the whole place.
So
now it's
insulated the lid and then
wire the entire
wire wire that and then wire the whole
rest of the place. I just wanna get
that done, and then I can

(33:13):
finish that. Little. That was smart. I think
it was smart when you were doing it.
Like you said, you were gonna do the
siding because
for 1, you got it done before the
cold. Or any other crap weather shows up.
Yeah. Then you can just work inside. It's
raining care almost done. I get a build
a deck. Like, I put the ledger boards
on so that I can put a roof
over the it's gonna be made by 8
deck on the front of the place.

(33:35):
And then there's your downsize right there, Matt?
Roof roof place.
Neighbor want a little bit a little bit
bigger than that. Yeah. Right? You want water.
She wants to shed inside.
Yeah.
So there's some things that are, like, we'll
have to be done, but I'm, like,
man. I tell you what, like, feels good
at 04:00 04:30 this afternoon. And I was
just, like, holy shit. I've been like,

(33:59):
no. I wouldn't say stressed, but just like,
holy shit. I've been working hard. Yeah. Every
day. 7 days a week.
09:10
hours a day.
So are you not laying tile right now?
You're just have committed Committed to the... Yeah
in the cabin. Yep. But I'm Monday, I
gotta go. You gotta a job work. Yeah.

(34:21):
At least you got... Well, it'll work. When
it's gonna feel like I'm on fucking vacation
vacation.
Yeah. I really texted me the other days.
I feel like I just pair carried the
a hundred pound backpack like 10 miles. Yeah.
In I I bet I climbed up and
down a ladder 75 times today. You know?
It's just like, holy shit.
Just over it. Yeah.

(34:43):
Yeah. Yeah. You're doing all that off ladders.
Everything. Yeah.
I couldn't do the roof and gaps. I
do get a freaking lift for the roof
of shit and Brakes, but...
When it came to the siding stuff. I
thought this I was scared Was up there.
Although I thought the software.
Was gonna be a pain in the ass,
and then it turned out that I I
could do it. I figured it out the

(35:04):
other day just to do the soften and
the show, it was, like, a hundred and
25 pieces of, like,
cut pieces that I had to, like, up
and down the ladder to install. And I
could do the saw I could do
some places 3. Some places 4 at a
time.
And then... Yeah. It's just... It's fucking.

(35:25):
What are you gonna do for... Are you
gonna do any watt? Like, a gray water
in there at all? Nothing. Nothing at all.
Yep. Just a giant cabin.
How fast do you think that'll go?
As far as renting it out. Pretty fast.
We have, like, 4 people.
And then we had a realtor letter showed
up yesterday,
just show was like, what do you got?
Yeah. What do you got going on here?
And I was like, oh, yeah, we're building

(35:46):
the fucking rental cabin and he's like,
I hate you can rent this right out
instantly. I was like, yeah. No shit. Thanks.
I already got 2 people that want run
it. Yeah. Yeah. So I think instead only.
Yeah.
That's crazy, man. You. I wish I could
build faster. Yeah. You know?
But I think the next place that we

(36:06):
build on that property is gonna be a
house of water and the whole everything.
Matt knows he's been up there. Helped me
with the wire. Some of the like, setting
white up behind everything thing. Yeah. We're gonna
build an actual house,
and,
like, I wanna build a like, a 2
car garage ranch
and then rent that out as well.

(36:27):
So Does you already run... That's gonna take
a little while.
Well, the power is right there for that
1. 0 it is. Power is run to
this dry cab. Yeah. It was smart. He
planned. So that too. He's got a 2
meter base.
Oh, wow. There... So he's got a base
he's almost the other ones. All set up
for 2 places on
or... Yeah. It's smart.

(36:47):
It's why they comb the doctor. So...
Yeah. The next 1 will probably be, like,
bury the water tank. And put this
septic system in
first,
and then maybe, like, the next year and
do the foundation
or maybe do all that at once,

(37:08):
and then frame the whole place up to
roof on,
and then wait till the next summer and
just kinda do it and stride, you know,
each summer do a little bit more a
little bit more a little bit more.
But I don't want shit sitting. Yeah. You
drive around here and you're like, oh I'll
get that plywood siding the same rotting studs
part and shit. Like, if I... Soon as

(37:30):
I start putting wood down, I'm going all
the way until the roof is on, and
I can, like, wrap the place. And tie
back and see it but tie that tea
on it. Exact exciting. Yeah. Yeah.
So...
But there's a lot of stages before that.
Yeah.
So...
I don't know. It's been...
I'm pain in the ass, but it's good
for me. So people wanna reach out to

(37:52):
have a dry cabin built. How can they
get a ahold of you? 140
yourself.
Yeah. Well, you've been doing that. I've been
checking... I've just started check checking the price
of tires
thoroughly this year banks and it's still freaking
high. Oh, yeah.
Man. Yeah. Yeah. The daughter's struck. The other...
You were working on vehicles, and I'm like,

(38:14):
yeah, wait till the kids started driving because
you're gonna be working on their stuff too.
I've been telling the daughter. She's had a
slow leak on her front tire. I'm like,
you need to go get it fixed. You
need to go get it fixed,
wouldn't do it. She'd aired it up when,
you know, and
3 days later it'd be low again. And
eventually, 1 day, it was like, I noticed
it being really low and So I aired
it up for,

(38:35):
and it was when I was it was
right before or fourth the July weekend. And
I was leaving town.
And
aired up the night before, go out in
the morning to leave, things flat in a
pancake.
And, like, emmy, it didn't even hold air
overnight.
Well, the tire was ruined.
They didn't have another 1 that would match.
So she's got the force it's mismatched on

(38:57):
there. Now I'm like, well, there you go.
You're gonna if they'll get yourself set of
tires
at this point. Job. Oh, yeah. Okay. Yeah.
She's got winter tires for it too on
rims. So I was like, just drive it
like that for the summer. She works at
a tire shop down.
She works with the hospital, but... Yeah. No.

(39:17):
I had to... Yeah. Well,
kinda. I mean, I was hoping my my
my truck tires would make it through this
year,
and then
both times it's right out of that one's
is right after they graded a road, you
know, drive through patch sharp approximate I'm like,
oh,
then, you know, your alarm comes lumpy
rip big hole in that. So I have
to go, like, you know, Was like, alright.

(39:38):
I know they're right at the end anyway,
Go get them all replaced, and then, yeah,
base struck.
Big hole, you know, coming up the road
here. Big o hole. I... A hole. Like,
I tried plugging and as soon as like
you go in there Was like, oh, that's
too easy. Like, and it
Yeah. That tire was was screwed and, like,
all cracked on the inside. Too. Oh, yeah.
And that's how why Lexus And so I

(39:59):
was like, in it's sucked because the other
ones, I mean, you know, maybe the inside
of them was fine, but it's like at
that point, you you just gotta get a
whole new set.
And
took me, like, 4 fucking days,
like, like, not just like, a time period
of 4 days, but like, 4 mandates
of labor
going to, like, get freaking someone to put

(40:20):
tires on the damn truck, like, 2 different
spots like, all lined up. Alright... Yep. This
will go, you know,
going. Oh,
these are supposed to be L tires, and
we don't have any. Like, these aren't, like,
the... Just didn't check or whatever.
And
yeah. Finally, 1700
dollars for a set of tires.

(40:41):
And then those brand new tires already. Showed...
Long story short showed me
that there had a bad tie rod in
and a bad wheel bearing. So there's another
1300 dollars.
Just
set money on fire. Hate vehicles, man. I
mean as much as what you could want.
Everybody, everybody deals out over. I mean... It's

(41:01):
a it's a necessary evil, but it's like,
I will tell you,
you know, the old diesel burning down was
the best thing that could have.
I could tell you that much. Guys asked
me that all the time. But. You your
diesel? No. No 1. Not 1 freaking bit.
Oh, man. I'm in my... I should have
my volkswagen back soon. Oh, you rabbit. Oh,
man. Your Did... Is he getting a fixed

(41:23):
up? Yeah. No shit. Back in action. No
kidding. Oh, yeah.
Yep.
Sylvia reindeer.
Fuck no.
I can know if fucking leisure your vehicle
lead to a work vehicle,
and then I got a beat on truck.
Oh, pretty good. But
other stuff, I guess in case that people

(41:45):
are wondering
the feds have indeed.
Close the central Brooks again for 2 more
years.
I had to dig to find it, like,
there's no press releases, nothing. They just... That
is news to me. Yep.
They
in the their regular. There goes my plans
for this year. Off the Can sheep hunting
anymore. Yep.

(42:05):
So to no one's surprised really, but they
kept it... It was, like, quiet. They just
did it. Didn't, like, announce anything about it.
Extended that for 2 more years.
Extended the Charlie
Yukon charge
for 2 more years or say to you.
No... It's never gonna open again. Neither of
them. Yeah. Ever. Probably.
Unless they're, like, it would take it would

(42:27):
take, like, an administration change in the fm
the
board to be gutted. Which there's another kind
of a weird thing, like, I don't totally
understand all of what went on. But this
year,
they like...
Brought the the federal assistance board back under,
like, directly to under the secret of the
interior

(42:47):
as opposed to agencies in alaska, like, so
like, I don't...
That's kinda weird. I don't totally.
Supposedly to have more tribal influence or something,
because all the board like, has been is
just the agencies
It's not like some freaking bored of people
that actually give shit. It's just the
agencies doing what they wanna do.

(43:10):
So I don't know, but it's...
Well, that's nice.
Real nice. Well, who's going sheep on?
So Ask you... You gonna you got any
plans? No. I ain't got plans. Are you
gonna go. I don't know yet. No. I
don't just... I don't even know it's up
in the air for sheep. Yeah. Yeah.
I can't get excited about it to be

(43:30):
honest with you, but I'm just...
Doesn't mean I'm not gonna go, but... Admit
no I got it. Yeah. Which freaking sucks,
it sucks man, like, just
even even considering, like, the population woes, If
we just had, like, access to
I mean, like, there's so much freaking cheap
country, you know, like, it... You know, even
if you just had, like, W stay and

(43:50):
elias and gates of the arctic. Mh. Or
just the whole Brooks range open, like, there'd
be plenty of room for everybody to spread
out and have a good time even if
sheep numbers are down. Like, it's not gonna
fucking affect anything. Well, and that's my... We
only have access to pro... I don't know.
Just be, like,
pulling it out of my ass, but probably
less than 50 percent of the sheep country.
Yeah. In the state. When you got more

(44:10):
guides getting licensed every fucking
twice a year.
And where the fuck are they going, they're
all piling into the same bed with... And
all the residents that are trying to hunt.
Mh. And all we all guys... And all
the other guys that are already
registered in all these areas and shit and
We already knew that would happen when you
close these other areas down. That's all going.

(44:32):
He congregate people in more of all it
puts all the work everybody... Well, not yeah.
Not only residents. Guides as well. Yeah. Now
there are guys that aren't just aren't gonna
hunt, which I get to guys, not guys.
Yes. Guys. Like residents. Those fucking guides will
take for
They don't give a fuck. You know, Like,
whether they know... Like, they could go to
an air. They're like, oh, yeah, there's Mountain

(44:53):
here. There's no sheep... There's no been sheep
here in 50 years, but I can make
a 50000 bucks here, and we're gonna walk
around, like, we're gonna get something. Yep. Like,
I mean, if you don't get shot, That's
not everybody. I, like, don't wanna throw... But
there are those guys out there. Are fucking
people like that out there, and it's
bullshit. Like, the whole
Hey yeah. I don't know. The whole guide

(45:13):
thing is rough business. It's just
you're just pushing...
You're pushing so many non residents on top
of residents that should have
precedence to this
areas that should be
hunting these areas and
not... Well, it goes like like, what I
always have said, too,

(45:35):
I'm not against the whole concession thing for
guides because well I think it probably would
be good. I think that would be the
best
route to go
for 1 because it forces the guides to
be
mindful of what they're hunting
in their area because that's their area where
they Yeah. The only... You know, it's not
like they can just pop scotch around. Yeah

(45:57):
You know. So to me, that makes more
sense, like, they're not gonna go in there
and wipe it out. Well, you may get
a guy that does that, but
that's gonna shoot themselves in the foot
Long term.
You know what I'm saying? Yeah.
I don't know.
No.
It just gets tricky. And then you're not
gonna... Then you wouldn't have guides on top

(46:18):
of guides either.
You know? Because, like, in both of those
places, that is the guide that's allowed in
that area. Right? You know, now residents could
hone it or whatever,
you know,
but I...
It's amazing how big of a state this
is, How much area we have?
And well, that's what tyler was just saying.
Little, it seems like... We have access how

(46:38):
concentrated right. Everyone has to be because less
less than less lane. And it's got a
constant.
Between Charters getting as expensive as they are.
Yep. And, like, just w away freaking millions
and millions acres of a whack. Alright? You
know, Like, I I did truly believe that
a lot of these issues would not...
Maybe they might exist, but they would not

(46:59):
be nearly what it would be a totally
different picture if like,
you know, if it was, like pre and
where you could just go hunt.
Yeah.
You know? Well, like, it's it's kinda like
the 40 mile caribou though, because that's really
kinda what happens
when they open that up.
You get the Mad rush of people.

(47:21):
You know, I've always thought about that. Why
can't you just open it up as a
just a general caribou season. And then people
hung their leisure within the...
Right. Instead of battling for, like, 400. Yeah.
Because that's what happens because they know that
there's gonna be a quota. Yeah. So
everybody is congregate, you know, at the same
time. Mh.

(47:41):
Which
causes. People get shot and, yeah.
Somebody's gotta a shot.
Just it becomes a battle up there. People
lose lives and it's not
it's not worth it for care we wouldn't
have many people to be 1 spot. It's
very nice

(48:02):
I
fucking boy. Yeah. That ask
there she is.
But I don't know like, I was thinking
about that other day too
I don't know Caribou just unique because, like,
it's just like, win... I mean, when they're
around, it's stupid easy. And I that, like,

(48:23):
just that aspect.
Can be attracts a lot of people where
you could just go I mean, and it's
fun with you can, like, go up and,
like, not
exert yourself that much. Yeah, it kill you,
kill care whatever, but that not attracts the
that.
Like, I I just don't even... You know,
like, I think
a more open, but How I don't know

(48:43):
how you navigate that when there's a quota
or... You know, yeah. That's like a... That's
kinda the problem is the quota ask
because when... Because when it's easy,
when it's easy,
everybody wants to go get a piece when
it's easy. Yeah. Mh. And
then you have that, so I don't know
what the answer is. But Gary was just
read me the... I can't even... I wish
I could remember. Like she read me the

(49:04):
quota of the other nines like, a couple
nights go. I wanna say, don't quote me,
but I wanna say 400. It's like something
like that. It's spread between the different zones.
Yeah. I mean, I for the for the
fall opener yeah. Heart total.
It used to be so fucking cool when
they open that December. It was, like, December
first. Just wanted open the second. Like, they'd
do their for their fall, and then they

(49:25):
do it winner. And it was late late,
Like, December first is when it opened. And
I was like, if fucking nobody's going out.
It's like 30 below 0. Yeah. That's the
time to go. During. Awesome. That's why. That
was what I used to go. It was
fun. Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah. I mean, I think they... I mean,
where was 5 90 was a

(49:46):
was a draw hunt.
No. The Chick coat... The chick occurred was
a draw hunt. Right?
You mean the... Years ago, years years ago.
Yeah. No. I don't mean.
Tina. Tina. I'm sorry.
It was a draw hunt. I just think
they should make it a draw.
If they wanna manage that herd and let
have people have the opportunity.
Set up a quota, people can draw just

(50:07):
like they do everything else, and then they
can manage the herd, then know how many
tickets are out there and how many people
are shooting animals. Well that's that's how I
feel. I think that it should be a
kids hunt you thought. That 2 Fucking 100
percent. Just like, Done. And then when... If
there's no kids that are or all the
kids are done, all the kids in the
state they wanna shoot Caribou. Mh. Are done.

(50:27):
Then... Okay. I open it up for whatever
we have left to adults that wanna go.
And here's and here's the more frustrating part
for me is that, you know I mean,
I can understand people actually go out there
and and wanting to shoot to meet or
shoot the animal for the meat and stuff,
But it's frustrating.
When they open that hunt, and then a
week later, you go to transfer sites and
you look in the garbage bins. Mh. And

(50:48):
there's fucking caribou in there. A whole goddamn
caribou.
So it's like, well,
I don't know. It's just people you can
say...
Yeah. You can see that you can see
that for any animal, but Yeah. You know,
well,
fish is a big 1. That's 1 of
my big grip with,
you know, Chi because every year guys are
like, oh, I'm going to chi. You know,

(51:09):
they got 20 fish leftover over in the
freezer. From the year before from the year
before, and they're like, I gotta get it
rid them And I mean,
a lot of them, I don't think get
thrown away, but there are some. I'm sure
they do. Yeah. You know, but people give
them the dog mushrooms and everything else. And
by the way I look at it is
is like,
why you get them any fish. If you
didn't eat all those fish that year.
Just just because you're allowed whatever, like me

(51:31):
on a lot of 55 fish. Mh there's
been times I've did that, but now that
the kids are older, and they're not A
lot of fit every day. Now that... Yeah.
That's... Like, this year, the idea... I'm not
going. Right? For that reason. I'm not even
going there.
So it's like, it's 1 of those things
that people need to self regulate themselves a
little bit. No. People don't have that. But
they don't. That's what people can do. Right.

(51:53):
But when you have access... I don't have
that with bears. Yeah.
But you also gotta consider a bears a
predator. It's a little bit of a difference.
You know? I mean,
That's not like, I'm shooting 3 moose just
stuck. Yeah.
When you have access to things that you
take it for granted,
you take it a little bit more for
granted. Right? When they take away access for

(52:14):
things, then people were, like, oh, those used
to be the good old days. I wish
I could get that back. But that's the
problem. It almost never comes back. Right. So
it's like if there was, like, the rest
groups. Like,
done. This is like that, like,
It's never not back It's... Not. Sorry. It's
never coming back because no one's, like,
you know, whether it's how recovered or not,
like, no one's gonna do, like, proactive stuff

(52:36):
that actually, I mean, predator controls the only
thing we could really do.
And then... Sometimes that's not gonna... Sometimes that's
not gonna do it either, but,
didn't ship until 20 14. I was always
guiding or doing
shit working at the lodge. Mh. And then
I met you, and then I was like,
okay, if I wanna go sheep hunting.

(52:58):
20 fifteen's when they shut down the Western
Brooks. Yep.
And it was exactly the same as
they shut down the haul road. They shut
down. Click... Oh, we had off they had
had a big winter was the exact same
thing. And 2, 3 years go by.
Who's talking about western nobody strange. Nobody shut
down. People forget it. Nobody talks nothing. Like,

(53:20):
there's not even a thing. Yeah. They're like,
oh, yeah. It's just always been closed down.
Well, it hasn't always been closed down. And
it's exactly the same as all this other
shit that's getting closed. Down all the time,
that'll never ever get opened up to hunt
again. Well, so now the Ne heard, like,
because they, you know, let me... They've been
hunting pretty hard, but then they had a
bad winter.
And lost a ton of them, whatever... You

(53:41):
know. So they... I mean, both... In the
actually, the state,
it's like the 1 thing that probably is,
like, the right way. The state had asked,
the feds to, like, close the subs systems
hunt there too
for Caribou. And now you got the same
guy who original like
I don't know how far back. So I'm
not an expert on it, but in recent
memory, like, the first unit 13, like Federal

(54:03):
closure ford non locals
for Caribou.
It's the same guy that did that for
Caribou is now doing 1 for Moose hunting
in unit 13.
Yeah. That's been that most recent 1. Yeah.
Yeah. So that one's like,
like, right now in Limbo. And I don't
know. It just see, like,
I don't know how anyone could argue that
the subs systems board isn't just, like, being

(54:25):
used as a weapon like, by Whoever wants
to. And that... Like, with the Caribou in
23 also at the meetings,
they took... It was supposed to open up
again this year for non locals
in the state, I thought I couldn't see
it. I didn't see it in the reg
rex, but I thought at the the board
game had approved, like, a draw,
like, like, a 300 tag draw or something
for non residents up there. I'm not sure

(54:47):
about that. I may I haven't paid his...
I could be wrong because I looked I
looked at the reg the other day, and
I didn't see it in there. But... So
that was supposed to expire,
and they now made it the regulation that
non locals can't hung on federal lands in
23
until unless the herd is over 200000,
which is bullshit. Not locals like... Yeah. This

(55:08):
is and then this is who's giving that
number. Giving it's exactly I just gonna say,
who the fuck is the 1 This is
charge you're saying that it's up to 200000.
And Yeah. And if it's a Feds, why
would they then? Well, it's a lot of
times it's the state, but it's like, the
ko... You know, like there I mean, there's
a general interest local interest. So
It's and not to, like, you throw shade

(55:29):
anybody, but there's just
it's just weird. Like, yeah. Like, that the
turd
herd herd os, they get smaller and then
they get bigger. When I think the test
puck herd, which is up just like north
of there Has grown in the last few
years.
And I don't know.
It's it's just it's bullshit. Like, it's

(55:49):
every... Like, all sort of special interests I
would say, like or just
soon as they started doing that, you know,
anyone with, like, including the park service and
the Yukon because the park service did the
Yukon Charlie. There's not even a fucking assistance
for cheap there. Yeah.
You know, they're just using that mechanism
for
do accomplishing what they want,

(56:10):
which
I mean,
I don't know. Unfortunately, like, I guess, Colorado,
like, looking at getting mountain lion hunt and
shut down. Yeah.
And it's... I think it's, like the same
kind of people. It it is. It's the
same kind of people. Just... This is the
way they can do it here. They can't
never do it. And the about, like, shut
down stuff in the ballot box here, but
they're turning the whole fucking state into a

(56:31):
park
that we can't touch.
Introducing wolves. That's my... Yeah. That's what I
was gonna say. They they're gonna shut down
mount line
and they introduce wolves. Yeah.
Yeah.
That... To be honest, I mean, that's why
I quit. I don't apply I don't put
nothing in for Colorado anymore. Nothing.
I ain't given them my money. I used
screw that I used to as well.

(56:54):
And it's unfortunate,
but it's like,
Yeah. That whole thing. The thing is they're
not gonna... They're not gonna realize it's a
problem until it's too late. It's too and
they can't fucking do anything about it. Right?
Yeah. Yeah. So... Well some people want that
to be,
like, they they want... Like, I mean, there's
certain people that, like, want the
predators to eliminate all the excess. So hunters

(57:16):
aren't necessary. And then... I mean, the predator...
And, I mean, like, it's like California with
cats. Like, and bears. They're still killing a
shit load of cats and bears, but it's
just, like, state doing it. Yeah. Yeah.
Which they were doing anyway Colorado for a
black bear. Yeah.
You know?
I at all? Ko man. Fire farmers love
it.

(57:37):
All the ranchers.
They love it. They love the fact that
I'm sure all the ranchers in Colorado are
just like super.
No cats can get killed in wolves where
entered is. Like, oh, yeah be.
I'm gonna make a ton of money.

(57:57):
Yeah. That's fucked there.
Yeah. I just want... Yeah. It's it just
kinda sucks even in, like, the short
kinda, like, snapshot. We've, like, been able to
see this state, like, how much has been
lost. And it makes you looks sad. Like,
whole timers has gotta be just depressed.
Yeah. Like well, I I always say that.
You know, They could go They could go
do anything. You know, 90 years ago.

(58:22):
I.
Yeah. What is that? I was yeah. I
mean, you combine, man. That's 9 over. 90...
I've guaranteed it's over 90. 91 because I
just turned 46. Oh, I'm gonna be 47.
Oh, you're 46 now. So buddy.
What I'm talking about...
So you are slightly older. Than I am.
Yeah.

(58:43):
At police Carrie told me that, that I
46 when I told
colder that I was like, 44
something.
I. Was like, once I turned 21, I
was like, shit. I'm just getting older fuck.
Stop paying a attention.
This is my second year of being 38,
like, half of last year. I thought I
was 30 8II

(59:05):
went through a phase probably around that same
time time frame in my life that I
forgot. Like I was like, my 37 38.
All Ever. And then you gotta sit there
and do the math and go. Well, it's
until you hit 39, you're like, oh, fuck
when you're away from 40. Yeah all that's
what all I know is couple months we
got 92 years
between us. Yep. Yeah. All I know is

(59:25):
all what experience.
Experience in savvy.
You?
I'm fucking smart. Just ask me. Well, with
Matthew.
The matt's birthday he gets a flannel shirt
just like Franks. Yeah. Yeah.
One's freaking sweet.
Yeah. That wool It was little a wool.

(59:45):
I don't think so.
No. It's not wool.
It's red.
It's red.
Yeah. It was a little chilly this morning.
Who's 50. It's. So finally great after fourth
of July to go to work. And mean
went the about for before july came back
I'm, like, It feels like the end of
August right now. I was going All these.
I walked out the other morning and smelled

(01:00:06):
like... More than here.
You know, that wet like August. Smell
blood. Because That was a was there. Yeah
I remember that. Yeah. It was nice, routine,
you know, it's Val it's always gasoline, but
It was warm. You could walk us on
your t shirt, and then I get here
and it's 50 degrees in the morning. 45,
50 degrees in the warm. Yeah. She like,
wait August. Just right. But think about last

(01:00:29):
year,
it was like
90 fucking wells right. There is
from coming through an spot 80 degrees. And
then all of a sudden, all these fires
started last year this time right now. Mh.
Whole bunch of fire started shit and it
was just like, holy fuck, like,
So weird.
But we we're not out of it yet.
I mean right know.

(01:00:50):
It all takes a few days. Yeah.
I didn't about your I...
I saw, like, what 85 or 6 we
have Monday or something like that. Yeah. Yeah.
I was just, like, the whole time is
was raining and I was outside work standing
under the eve just getting poured on. I
was just like, fuck like you lift your
head up feet,
like, damn. I need a snorkel... Mad.

(01:01:13):
This is very out there putting on siding
with Goggles launch,
just regular wet every day all day. I
was just like, So in the whole time
all I could think to myself is like,
it's gonna be fucking like 65, 70 degrees
in sunny all the sheep season.
This is gonna be great.
I'm sure I buy it.

(01:01:34):
I'm not buying that, But I had to
give myself on some like
think about, like, some kind of hope like,
that light at the end of the fucking
tunnel.
Yeah.
Yeah. I'm excited. Kinda cheap season kinda crept
up on me. Dude, it it only gets
worse. I talked to by dad. I'm like,
we got, like, 3 weeks. I feel like
it was 3 weeks and I just got

(01:01:55):
back from sheep hunting last time. Yeah. I'm,
like, just, like, rum through on my shit.
Like, oh, what do I need? I don't
know. Shit I haven't even touched anything except
for ordering a pair of new boots online.
Hopefully Add everything. Oh, let's see.
Yep. Food.
Yeah. Ordered.
Got bin.
Got spotting scope. Got that. She have a

(01:02:17):
license.
Yeah. Need.
Do you have a rifle?
Yeah Yeah. I do have a right Does
have. What do you take What you take
you taking your P. I'm gonna take that
300 P. 300 P. So I've... Nice. For
for Rifle enthusiasts out there, I I built
the 65P
couple years ago. And that thing shoots fucking
tax. Very nice. It is a very nice

(01:02:39):
rifle. But this year,
I was supposed to go on a bare
hunt my brother down in Ko. So I
built the 300 P on the
Md t
hot 26 stock. It's like a lightweight chassis
can fold at the butts stock and then
anyways, it's a it's also a really nice
rifle, but
it's a

(01:03:00):
it's a 300... It's a 30 cal rifle,
so it kicks a little harder, and it's
not really necessary for for sheep, but I
wanna fucking kill something with this. I'm gonna
take it. Sheep hunting this year. So...
And then,
since I talked to you guys last, I
got in the whole suppressor game, that we
talked about earlier and I can't seem to
get off of it. So... It's bad, especially

(01:03:21):
now when it's like when I'm like, hey
Connor. My name is Connor. My last my
last 1. 3 day... 3 days.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So that that is something for people wanting
to buy suppressor that that they've sped up
the the t. I don't for whatever reason.
I don't fucking know. But they've sped up
the the processing time. So before it was

(01:03:42):
9 to 13 Yeah month. And then they
cut it for down to, like, 6 months.
No. They cut it down, like, 4 months,
and now people... Like, Tyler got his approved
in 3 days.
I've heard of other people getting there as
approved an hour or even, you know, a
couple days or.
But so mine was delayed for whatever reason,
but... Because it was a trust. Right? 1

(01:04:02):
was a trust and 1 was an individual.
So I I put it in for a
trust for
for a suppressor,
and then I was, like, well, is gonna
take loan because it's a trust, so I'll
just buy another suppressor and get that 1
sooner.
And it didn't come sooner. So I called
up where I emailed Nicks... So you can
email Nicks and you can email the Fbi,
and they will give you, like, a status

(01:04:23):
of your suppressor. So where anywhere... Anyone out
there kind of wondering what that is. You're
you're able to do that. If you're having
a a really a bad time, then if
you have a good and state senator, then
you can email them and they'll help,
speed up those times.
I emailed the dan sullivan sullivan office here.
The lady down there is freaking awesome. She's
a 2 way advocate. She runs a woman's

(01:04:45):
self defense course.
I called her up, Told her my problem.
She's like, I have a friend that can
help, or I can help you out in
this situation.
And then, she called me back later that
day, said,
yeah, I talk to him. Everything's cleared up,
and then the following Monday Was a approve
of bowl suppressor. Nice. So...

(01:05:05):
But, I mean, I what you know who...
Yeah. But it said influencers so. I was
I was telling you I was like, I
was never really on the suppressor game because
I'm, like, I walk into our local gun
here, and I'm like, well, I could spend
a thousand dollars of suppressor a thousand dollars
on a new rifle I'll buy a new
fucking rifle or pistol or whatever

(01:05:26):
until I shot a suppressed rifle.
You wanna smoke some crack?
Look heroin
but, yeah I man, They're freaking awesome, man.
I I don't know why I've never shot
1 before. And it's not it's not the
sound because out of all the animals I've
shot,
not as much as you guys, but Of,
out of all animals
I don't.

(01:05:50):
Sorry. I just... You guys make... You walked...
Dude... I'm not making fun of me. 13
or 14 more times. I'm not. Not wait.
Make put. You just walked right into that
1. So
But I don't remember A shot I took,
but what I do like about it is
it takes away recoil, and I can get
back on my target faster. That's what I
like about. It just makes, like, it just
makes it more pleasant to shoot, like, you're

(01:06:11):
gonna, like, practice more. You're gonna shoot more.
Right. Just... I mean, I Fuck, yesterday, yet.
The couple of days ago at the range,
I shot 25 rounds of 300 P.
Would I give me a belly. Yeah. I
my belly. Yeah.
So
they are
they do have an advantage.
I told you you'd like that 5

(01:06:31):
titanium right in a 5 can. I know.
I should have bought that in the first
place. And it's funny because I bought that
03:60 ti,
the Rugged Alaska 03:60 ti.
And I'm sure it's a great suppressor. I'm
not knocking on it or anything, but it's
got 4 baffles and it cost 1400 bucks.
So you're kinda knocking on it. No. I
mean, I'm sure it's got.

(01:06:51):
Like... It's... Yeah.
It and it it is it is... If
you if you look at the way between
the scythe and the Alaska 03:60 ti,
It's like, it sounds too. It's like too
tuesday, but it's it's 2 ounces
lighter. It's the difference between your youtube toothbrush
have handle and
Yeah. Exactly.
But, you know, it costs 1400 bucks. So

(01:07:12):
he's not. He's not bringing a toothbrush. 6
kilometers
6 not extra. I can bring up your
Full toothbrush this year. 6 extra gummy worms.
Yeah.
So that, you know, I don't know. I
like the scythe because it has breaking on
it.
It's quieter, less recoil. So I loved sheep
hunting when I stop caring about weight.

(01:07:35):
Yeah. And just feel just like is what
what I need. I'm taking it. Yep. It's
so much easier to not be like, oh
kind hold what a I be
Fucking around, like, we'll just plug that into
my Excel sheet taking all this shit
because you know, this I'm gonna smile yeah
and be comfortable. Yeah.
Yeah.

(01:07:56):
Yeah. So I'm taking the. I can do
matt. You did. Like mattress? Did you get?
Saw some shit up. Did you get that
lightweight 1 the gray 1? It sounds like
fucking loop rolls? No. Yeah. Oh. Yeah. Because
I had 1 of the newer because you'd
been rocking the same. Like, the original
problem because fucking mine's big.
My is gonna talk

(01:08:17):
hey
That's that's that's what I use. So I've
got the thermal rest, the silver 1. Yeah.
I had... When they first came out with
that thing, how many other years ago that
was I bought 1. Did pop.
It didn't pop, but it... I got my
use out of it, but it did start
leaking air, and I could figure out what
it was Thin. Well, what it was is

(01:08:38):
where I would lay, like, where my shoulder
was.
It I I don't know if it just
wore the...
You know, granted, you're on... You're in a
sleeping bag, but it was, like, it was
right in that area where your shoulder is.
There was just air holes everywhere. I found
out on Moose side. Neo air adventure.
That's what you got. Mh. W

(01:08:59):
picture of it. It's just but Bought... So
I bought another 1, but I got the
big 1. The the 20 inch I... It's
only in 2 I've only had it 2
years, but I have had issues with it.
Right. It'll work.
I don't like the sound of them. They
are currently.
But I'm used to
like... They had them at Rei. So I
spread it out and laid on it, like,

(01:09:19):
the 6 fucking
blown it up like that. Loud is fuck.
And what would be devastating is if I
popped it because you're not sleeping... You're not
always sleeping on the best ground.
If you popped it and then what you're
fucked. Well, well, you're you you can patch
it. I mean, and and that's the thing.
I'm not I'm... I mean, it's just like
a raft or anything else. You could patch
them black tape. Well, no. You just bring

(01:09:40):
the.
They do a little glue. Yeah. They do.
They do have. Yeah. Yeah. That should sucks.
It works though. No. You can get you
have to, like, put your fucking thing like,
a lot of the holes that you get
in those things. You're not like, oh, shit.
Look at this. There's a freaking huge hole
here. You're like, yeah. Just why keep think
keep leaking you gotta stick in the water.
Right. And then sit on it and wait

(01:10:01):
to see where it's bubble or whatever. That's
how I found mine, let it dry then
patch it. Where my shoulder was rubbing or
whatever wore that thing out. Because I could
never find where the heck this thing was.
So I submerge Cooper be on we're on
a river Sutton.
I freaking inflated that thing, and I stuck
it in the river and just sat on
it, pushed it all the way down on
the water. Yeah. And right where the shoulder

(01:10:22):
was, it was, like, pile the holes. Like,
micro holes or. Yeah. And that's where it
was lead guarantee. That's what mine's like. And
and I duck I just duct tape to,
like, get the flex seal Freaking can Yeah.
I didn't have any flex seal, but I
had duct tape and then a course, the
patch kit, but that wasn't big enough. Yeah.
So I just used duct tape, and it's
got like a 2 bite, you know, 2

(01:10:43):
by 2. Freaking square where I duct tape
didn't minute. Well Frank had been using the
the Og g neo air, like the turquoise
kinda colored 1. Yeah. Which I still have
mine and I switched because bummer forever.
I that thing for fucking 6 Well, to
no, more than that 10. Because the first
1 I bought they were maybe, like, a
year 2 out in 20 15.

(01:11:06):
Remember I took 1 on that delta hunt.
Yeah. Yeah. The first time you do that
tag. Yeah. I was I using a fuck...
Yeah. And I was
fucking roll pad. And then you bought 1.
That... I think that was... The next time
we went out Hunt after your hunt. We
went back out. Yeah. That's when you quit
Karen, but... Karen about weight. You. Screw this.
I'm buying a 2 inch thick deflation match

(01:11:28):
And a joke it's like the fucking space.
Too. Or or more than less than half
the space. I went through the same thing
or of, like, 1 of those ridge rest
or whatever, like, any kind of like, whether
the the fold out ones page roll up
ones or whatever? 10 percent of the pain.
Yeah. Exactly.
But...
I got... Well, I finally got nervous. I

(01:11:49):
got a couple. I got that Ne o
1 that's freaking super c,
and I punched a couple holes in that.
I think Bear hunting, like, a Rose bush,
thorn or something like, went through,
but I passed it. Fucked. You should be
able to throw these things down on. Well,
it may it must have been something more
than that because I have been using that
thing hard like, in the rocks.
But
and then that big agnes 1, I think

(01:12:11):
I took Sheep up last year, the same
kind of deal, like real big thick. Using
nice comfortable pad. But
I got 1 of the newer t, like,
neo air, thermal arrest. It wasn't even like
an ultra light 1.
And, like, took... With, like, camping out down
at the farm with the kids on grass
and, like, had that thing blown up for

(01:12:31):
10 minutes. Like, rollover on on my elbow.
The to hole. Like the shitting, it'll cut
it, like, I'm too fat for that. It's
unfortunate. The 1 that I wanted to buy
wish I could remember all this shit. I
can't remember the names of anything, but
the 1 I wanted to buy, the bag
you put it in.
Is also, like, 1 of those bags, inflation

(01:12:52):
bag. You rip it down and then, like,
fold the whole thing up and the bag
goes into The the pad goes into the
bag
And then when you open it all up,
it's an inflation bag. Yeah. For the for
the mattress.
That. Well Ne Ne makes 1 of those.
Well maybe it his long. This is not
Ne though But, like, well, even mine, it
comes with that. Yeah. My my ex bed
comes with them. I like it... I've been

(01:13:13):
running x bed for a while.
The thing I find with those is that
how they are they are heavier though? They
make like care about the weight. I care
care more about the size. They they're all
up the size of it, like, a smaller
than an algae bottle. Mine does. Oh, no
shit. Yeah. So it's maybe a little taller
than analogy. That's no different but might the
diameter smaller than analogy bottle.

(01:13:37):
But the thing that was happening with those
is that
And when I would buy then, they didn't
come with an inflation sack, so I I
would have to
put my mouth on it and blow it
up. Obviously. Well, what happens is that moisture
gets in there. Mh. And it it ruins
the integrity of they have they have ribs
that run vertically up and down the... The
mattress right with my mouth for years and

(01:13:59):
memory. But with the x beds, those ribs
are break out. So I'd lay on it
and the rib would break out and you'd
have, like, a flat mattress and these massive
old
Nick that was talking about having that happen
on a sleeping pad. And was And it's
fucking terrible man. Like, it You just might
as well pop a hole on it and
just throw it throw it away because you

(01:14:19):
can't do anything about it. So now they
send them with the inflation bags, and they
don't have that problem.
Interesting. But... Yeah. I like the x beds
the beds are pretty nice. Right on. Yeah.
I dig the inflation bags, or... Yeah. Nothing.
Nothing I love more than Nike. I can
your my ass off all day and, like,
sitting down and passing out from blown up.
Well, I I got... I went 1 better

(01:14:41):
while back, actually, thermal rest made it.
There's another company that makes him I've seen
those little battery power later. Yeah. But The
made 1, and I just bought 1 Beaver
sports had them. I was like, I'm gonna
buy these and try it.
And it it does a good job just
in,
but you still have to top. You have
to top it off, you know, either with
easy with the inflation bag or whatever, but

(01:15:01):
you're still carrying some with batteries and I
mean, it's tiny, but... Right.
Get to break another corner cover rush off
to cover this the away to the... I
don't know like how got no toothpaste. No.
No toothpaste. Yeah. Yeah. Just use dip. I
got. I got a couple of copenhagen egg.
That I... Well, yeah. I used to... The
mister... The winter green because that gives your

(01:15:21):
breast smells better. That's what I used to
carry. Like 8, tens I bring me. 08:10.
I was like, dip. Yeah. After I stopped.
And I was like, holy shit I'm gonna
be able to ring candy bars.
And now I'm just like fuck. You're sitting
there like, the sun. Be nice to have
a dip. The but looking through your glad
all my candy bar

(01:15:41):
fucking wish you had do.
But I got... I I got them for
for... I made little, like, barrel coolers out
of them for, these little fan, like mattress
and plate fans that are, like, a little
cube like this big
And they'll run for, like, 20 minutes, you
know, total,
but
totally cool cooler. Probably the cycle. Yeah. I

(01:16:03):
just, like, they're, like, 10 or 15 bucks
off Amazon and little Chi home stuff, and
you just put a piece of fuel hose
and
like, cut the back of a cartridge case
off and tape it on the fuel hose
and these
stick it up in the chamber and turn
it on and it blows blows air through
that smart.
That's a good idea. It works pretty good.

(01:16:24):
That's cool.
Yeah. Sleeping pads.
God they can get old man. I guess,
that's like that's like the most exciting part
of sheep on. You just like.
I got this badass ass sleeping.
Yeah. Exactly. Well, you're stuck in... I mean,
can be stuck in a 10 per day.
Can... They can make a
Yeah. Or you can just have to sleep
at night. Yeah Like, holy shit. I just

(01:16:44):
wanna be comfortable.
Yeah. Fucking,
that makes an old man. Know what I
like now is they,
a little butt pad. You know, those little
foam. Yeah. The little foam collab or accordion,
sleeping pads. Yeah. It's like the ridge trying
coil, but it's just a small. Yeah. Small...
It's like a it's a seat. At 100
percent. Yeah. Dude. How long have you been

(01:17:06):
chic? So I never used 1 until last
year. I'm like, this is fucking
with.
This is awesome sweet. I've I've lost I've
lost I've lost 1 of those. In mini
Mountain Jeez Like,
I just... Last year and when my shit
popped, and I was like, him at every.
I sit for 10 minutes, and I'm like,

(01:17:27):
get off, claw back up again.
I just pulled a piece of foam out
of dumpster, a couple of days ago.
I can cut it see Yeah. Slice it
well. Free. Well, that's what I was gonna
say too. The other thing. I'm gonna glue
2 pieces together. You go buy those pre
made, the pre made ones No good. Yeah.
They're kind of expensive for what they are.
You could just go to Fred dude, buy
1 of them blue foam deals and just

(01:17:49):
you can have price it up. You can
have, like, 4 5 of them. Yeah. Yeah.
The next 4 years. Yeah. Good. Yeah. Back
when... The first couple and I made back
when I late and I just take... Cheat
off of, like, the closed cell foam off
of door. That's what I have a job
here this year. Remember, me running,
Running after what the wind blew and moving
on delta.

(01:18:11):
Run like it's like, I can get it.
Get it. It's, like, blowing and blown and
blowing and I'm like,
all running and running and running and running
and all of a sudden, there's a cliff,
and it goes off the rich. Bucket it's
like, shoot when the up draft and the
out draft hit. It was just, like,
I'm not gonna get it. Wilson

(01:18:34):
Yeah.
I'm like son of a bitch. What would
what did I do? Cut years in half.
Gave you.
He was nice enough to make me 1.
So I was like, well shit his blew
away. I got least half mine. That's right.
Because that was a double man. It was
like, 2 2 nice. It was 2 inch
inches. Oh 1 of those thick it was

(01:18:55):
a thicker 1. On there the rear was
flat sheets of arm cells is what the
stuff was called. It's a closed cell foam
installation you, like, insulation tanks or chiller, like
cold stuff with. So it doesn't condense.
And, yeah, we had, like, some sheet stuff
left over from a job, so I like
glued 2 of them together, cut out a
little handle little handle They're freaking sweet.

(01:19:17):
Yep.
I felt only
obligated to...
Yep. K Yeah. I was, like, here you
go dude. Slice it half. But when I
first when I first started cheap, and you're
talking about sleeping pads. I used a ridge
rest.
I used the 3 quarter length 1 because
I was saving wait. That's what exactly you're
know using. And After a while, I realized
this sucks fucking it couldn't afford the long.

(01:19:38):
Well, my...
Even your even your feet hanging off,
like, you're on gravel or rocks or whatever.
Yeah. Your feet, you don't realize that your
feet have a lot more weight than you
think when you're land there. He get cold
to. They get cold. Dude the ground sucks
fucking get out of your butt. Everything sucks
heat out of your butt. My dad last
year, he got a new air mattress and

(01:20:00):
We get up in the... I told them
the exact 1 that I bought. But x
bed labels are things weird, so he bought
the s instead of the m which is
He bought the short 1. So we're laying
up there, and we inflate matches goes,
I like sorts are shorter the
Like, I don't know to tell your dad's
always you.

(01:20:21):
Yeah. Oh, I have know to tell you,
ma'am. Like, sorry.
I'm like, I just see lesson night and
he goes, My feet were freezing last night
I don't like lunch
dude. So this year I was like, I
got some did you buy you want 1
mat? No. I'm good. I was like, did
you buy a new air match she's like,
yeah, I bought your mattress I'm like, good.
So

(01:20:41):
he was taking his puppies and sticking his
puppies at the end of the bed, so
he get.
Do Nice to lay down,
on my rain gear. Yeah. And Underneath, like,
make up, like, I've doing that. Then rain
gear first, then And even if, like, normally,
I do that anyway because I see all
Tony Russ hunting in Alaska mh trick from
the pre air mattress days. Well,

(01:21:04):
I put my...
If depending on what the
ground is like, I put my
rain gear, fill up voids and shit underneath
the air mattress. Yeah. Like, the level it
out. Exactly. Level it out. And then when
you get up in the morning in fucking
pouring rain, which inevitably it is.
Your reindeer right there. You don't have to
be, like, fumbling around for you. You're like,

(01:21:25):
first should I need because I need to
put this on, go outside to be dry.
To go to the fucking bathroom.
So
Yep, I keep my puppies close by
because I've been cold some nights, and Put...
I mean, I got the thinner puppies,
but just putting a puffy jacket over you
while you're sleeping.
Game changer. You wouldn't think it would be

(01:21:46):
like that much, but just a small puffy
jack. It's like,
yeah. Keep you warm.
But
I had to buy... I'd get get old.
I bought 1 of them, them Joe... Well,
I don't know if it's it's off Amazon,
then Joe Rogan like,
sn it, like, sn freaking mouthpiece. Well, bulk
because Dennis told me man I needed to

(01:22:07):
get, like, wear a mouthpiece because like, Are
you my teeth? Yeah. Oh my God. I
my not named ear plugs? And you might
not? I know... My wife said, I haven't
been sn as much because... Well, I had
to start sleeping on my back because my
shoulders all jacked up.
And I was gonna ask you. Terry I
got that figured out or Turns sn. I
haven't I haven't got to the doctor, like,
impingement has gotten a lot better, but I

(01:22:29):
can tell something's jacked up, like, on the
front side,
like squeeze, like, I can't do that. Like
that Hertz.
Bo shots Injured? No.
You're fucked.
So dad. That's.
You get. You have cancer. You you have
aids.

(01:22:50):
Get away from.
Nope. Mine's finally. I'm done. I'm healed like
hundred percent That took like a year or
or the year to a year and a
half. Yeah. Over a year and a half.
Yep, And I can like...
Because you had legit rotator cuff tear too.
2. Yeah. 2 2 different tears. My rotator
cuff. And I'm like, fully,

(01:23:11):
Finally. Fuck. It's like, this shit, I'm like
so Look behind. Look like Look at this
behind me. I can fucking, like, move my
armor. Around. Be like, who cares about killing
an animals. I can.
Think of my fucking arm works. Want me
to reach back there and get that brief.
Because I will. I can. I couldn't even
get my Idea like do this to get
my seat belt.
Every time, I couldn't just feel like, grab
my seat belt and put it on. I

(01:23:32):
do, like, reach
hurt your shoulder.
Do drove snow machine into a rock. Now,
that'll do it. Mh.
Well, how'd do you hurt your shoulder? I
don't even know. I think it is, like,
graduate I can't think of a single, like,
thing that I did. But my daughter... Like,
my kid well, my daughter primarily
they'll climb in bed with us, and then

(01:23:53):
end up, like, forcing myself, like, force my
me to the over to the edge of
the bed. And I'm like, on my side
or my or my worse, my arms like
hanging off the bed. Yeah. I had to
like, my wife and I switched sides on
the bed to, like, bath and now she's,
like,
smashing that side still.
But so I don't know.
I might have to just start sleeping on
the couch out here, but,

(01:24:15):
age
something. Tell you what I felt like she.
It was
pretty sobering when I fuck my, like, lat
up,
bear on with my dad,
coming down I don't know if you... I
told you about that. Matt
to... But I I was... Yeah. Going back
down to the boat, like, Super Steep Cut
bank, the same cut bank where Frank shot

(01:24:36):
that bear in the mouth.
And
start sliding and grabbed the a, like, with
my hand like, over my head
and sliding down and caught myself and it's
stretched. It was just like, powell.
And I'm like, oh, that's not good. And
I'm might feeling to see if any must...
Like, a muscles like, d thick tore loose
or something, and

(01:24:57):
I tore something because a few couple of
days later... Or a few days later was
all black and blue down there. But, yeah.
Good. Great. We got the bear loaded up
and
I already told the story, but I was
like, I was, like pathetic trying to skin
this bear because I couldn't pull with my
left hand.
That's like my pull, you know, normally, I
can go I against get a bear pretty
quick,
like,

(01:25:17):
you know, 20, 30 minutes or something if
I'm going
even that's a little slow. But,
like, I'm was just like, anytime I go
to Paul, I'm just like, crippled up, like,
I'm like dad. I'm hurt, man. I don't
know how this... It's... I take Ibuprofen and...
By the next morning, I was like, okay.
I think I'm alright. And then I could
I could kinda h my way up a

(01:25:38):
tree.
And so end up being okay, but just
pretty... That age thing pretty talking about. Yeah.
You're you're coming into it, but... Oh,
my about about... You said you're at 39?
30... Well, I picked up my daughter the
other day. And my Camry is little over
1 and she weighs 22
23 pounds.

(01:25:59):
And she sq to get out of my
arm my arms and I went to, like,
move her over, and I'm like, oh, fuck.
My back. Dude. I got a 50 pin
a or a lot like while though. It's
like a wild boar.
That's on my wife I'm my... I need
you to walk my back because it is
fucking rough we have 1 of those the
gun things.
And, like, she was, like, shoving it into
my back. I'm like, no. I need you

(01:26:19):
to walk my back and still went to
chiropractor.
How to go to massage therapist, like, jesus.
I just take Ibuprofen. I need did that.
Chiropractor. Like, I need to go a chiropractor,
but my insurance don't cover it anymore. Don't
feel so bad. Maybe I'm not as bad
off as I thought. He sounds worse often
than I am. I'm fine now.
Yeah. But it does... I mean, I I

(01:26:40):
have little. I I think I got onset
of
Oh, man. Yeah. How's how's sorry has your
club
park? Dude I have du du can fracture.
So check this out. Well look at my
hands. They're clean.
So see this.

(01:27:00):
See that big bump. Yeah. See that, like,
dimple in my palms. Yeah. Pretty. Yeah. That's
fucked.
What's up for them? It's called
contract.
So it's also called, like, Celtic can or
viking hand.
So I get, like, you get this build
up on this tendon in your hands right
here,
and it just like,
draws. It's almost like trigger finger.

(01:27:22):
Like that. It's it's almost same things had
trigger his thumb for a long. It just
like, continually,
it's gonna draw my fucking finger.
It's like they'll tighten it up. Is until
I can't move it anymore. At all. So
it's, like, scar tissue building up on it
and your yeah tenant will eventually 10 eventually
tight like this forever titans...

(01:27:43):
Yeah. Maybe. It could be. I don't know.
Well, it's in Thumbs. Yeah. It's. Lucky. You
got the nimble right there. You're starting to
get the.
That's exactly what that. You're ball fuck.
But and they say that it's, like, most...
Between the 2 and you're gonna have 1
working your ring... Like, just blow your ring
finger.
And how do minor is... How do my
hands look? Like you work on a fucking

(01:28:04):
computer out of.
So is that a dimple there?
Oh, dude did you got the same shit
going on.
Actually, you got
fucking in same hand. But mine's on my...
Yeah. Right hand, both of both.
And it's weird you look it up. And
it's like, fine 1 fucking quick. Like, I
got... Right here, I just started to get

(01:28:26):
this bump right here, and then also of
sudden it was like, longer, longer, longer, And
then I started getting this dimple
in my palm, and I was like, what
the fuck? So that's where it's tightening up
in they tightening right there. It's like, it's
tightening so much of this, like, sucks the
skin on the outside of your pump. You
know, all the listeners are, like,
My got looking.

(01:28:47):
Well, freaking what it yourself you all your
ass starts to tighten up so much right
here that it just like, tightens the tendon
up, It pulls the tendon and draws it,
and it, like, we'll close your finger right
up until you can even until all I
can do.
Only.
Like

(01:29:09):
Hi, guys.
Yeah. That's interesting. You know? No. It's guaranteed.
That's exactly what you got going on there.
Yep. Viking hand.
It's from worst way better than Celtic can.
Yeah. It's like, from being a fucking man.
Doing real shit.

(01:29:30):
He's looking at as computer.
What else you guys been up to.
Not in pocket pool
is ski hands.
This shit is freaking

(01:29:51):
aluminum ladders.
Oh, yeah. Fucking like,
unreal dude look at my fucking hands.
Here's like Go take a shower. Like, can't
get a bed looking like that. Shower I'm
like.

(01:30:13):
Need a little hop little hop number 9
day
you you 40 fucking clicked anything up.
Yeah.
Yeah. Help man.
But we're gonna take the old 6 5
Creed more sheep hunting again.
Different 1 this time, but...

(01:30:35):
Yeah. I think we're gonna
next 1 gun. Just take single gun again.
We. Last year 2 guns. Last 2 last
2 years. Last year, we took 2 guns
year over year before we
Maybe we took 2 guns a year. We
did for. Yeah. Yeah. 2 guns, 0 shots
fire. Right.

(01:30:55):
Do you guys think you could have shot
both those sheep last year's 1 gun? Yes.
Ease. Easily. Yeah. That's why we're like, fuck
why we carrying on 2 fucking guns. Yeah.
Bullshit. Ways of
energy. And the last 2 times we shot
too sheep and a row with 1 gun.
And it's...
We just talked about this too We're, like,
what, like,
All this walking around and shit that we

(01:31:17):
do. We never... There's never seems to be
a changed. Mh.
Where I was, like, oh, maybe bring 2
guns in case we separate. Well, yeah. Have
to go 2 different ways. Well, part of
at these, I... Like, I wanted never... I
wanted to bring, like, this gun or that
gun. Right. But for work. And you know.
The thing is is, like, we never... We
always hunt together. Yeah. Never, like, I'm gonna

(01:31:37):
go over here and you're gonna go over
there. And even... Thought about it when you're
in the field? Have you been, like, not
really well we bring once bonds scope like.
Because never. Once when were in the field
ever. We've talked about it before, but then
we never... It's never really a thing. Yeah.
I can't imagine splitting up.
I mean, I've done it but I've done
it before, but I can imagine in it,

(01:31:58):
but but just just doesn't seem to be
the way we hunt. No. Yeah.
Yeah.
So... Yeah.
Eliminate a rifle.
And I'd like to shoot it, like, that's
an awesome rifle. Yeah. So that that thing
is 1 of the best shooting hunting rifles
of. Is that the 1 dead shot his
with? Yeah. His bar.

(01:32:18):
What did I say?
Shot his with? I guess... No. You said.
Right. No. I'm seeing. Yeah.
Yeah. It's good.
Was it is that an 18 inch barrel
nothing? 18 inch inches. That's what I want.
So I loaded I loaded a hundred 30
grain because I I wanna shoot something with
them because I haven't,
hundred 30 grain Sierra Tip match Kings. Which
are match bullet, but they'll, like, basically, like

(01:32:40):
shooting a ballistic tip,
and they should be pretty. You get a
little bit more speed because they're in that
shorter barrel, I mean, what... You could shoot
fucking whatever through there. It doesn't matter because
I'm not gonna... Like, we're not gonna shoot
anything, like, max 600 yards like, in the
most, like, outrageous...
Scenario
of perfection. Of I wouldn't. I probably would

(01:33:01):
never shoot that this... Like, he him fine.
He shoots all time. Me, probably not ever.
Yeah. But like, it doesn't really matter, but
I kinda wanna shoot... Like. I got... I
I got a case of those bullets, so
I've been dink hand and got 1 that's...
So if we have a single rifle and
there's 2 sheep that are legal.
He'll shoot it at 600, and then I'll
sneak in the rest.

(01:33:23):
Just leave it lane. Man shoot. We'll shoot.
We'll shoot. And then they're all stay... They'll
all stand there while we walk up to
75 yards.
Right the other.
Those those 2 sheets that you guys shot
that ran over the joking by the way?
Because that... Oh, could you, like oh, that
happens in ton. Yeah yeah. Those whichever, like,
you shoot the biggest 1 first. Yeah. They

(01:33:43):
just gonna stand around and... Yeah. Yeah. You
guys saw 2 sheep there running up over
a no. Right? And then if Shot. And
then hand it off and then shot again.
Right? With 1 rifle. There was a 60
yards I shot first. Like a little while.
Child. That did. That got out of fucking
hand because Nothing not like read didn't wound
nothing or anything, but nobody died. It got

(01:34:03):
pretty intent. We're in the middle of, like,
this filed It was kinda like this little...
It wasn't like the top of the ridge,
but it was like this bump on the
ridge. Right. We were we were like, we're
hiding. We're, like, Good. This is perfect. They
were across a saddle from us. Yeah. Like,
on the same ridge line on 1 mountain
kind of across deep saddle. We feared It
was real fog 2 days. They've been going
down, feeding, and going back up here. Going

(01:34:26):
down feeding, going back up here. We're like,
we'll get over here. When they go down
to feed, they'll go bias us and we'll,
like, wait for them to feed and then,
like, shoot. We'll just scoot little ramps. Shoot
over to the shoot the edge and they
fucking
came down to their edge of the ridge,
and they came right towards us, and they
didn't go down to feet. They were, like,
moving, like, from 1 basin to another kind

(01:34:47):
of thing. Fatal end.
Well,
Just got you our fucking blue. We it
totally got a soft guard. I I shy
him is there was 2 other rams in
that bunch that I think we're, like, 9
years of 9 year olds that were not
quite full girl. But, I just never got
a chance to, like, really look at them
well. Yeah. And so when... There's was a

(01:35:07):
double broom that we thought was 9 and
double.
And that was the 1 that that
he was gonna kinda shoot, but we never,
like, got a really... Because it got fucking
wild west like you were saying. Yeah.
I shot that she mind right the fuck
front on right in the chest to like
50 yards. Yeah. He popped. Up was like

(01:35:27):
that's him shoot him.
Well, talk because we kept being, like, well,
what the fuck? We keep, like, poke poking
Like, where it? Where are they where? Are
they going down there? Why aren't they going
down there? And then Also sudden I caught
something to my right. And I was like,
holy fuck. They're coming right on here with
us. Right onto this fucking... There was no
rocks. We just said to lay down. And
I was like, hide. Hide.

(01:35:47):
There's nowhere to fucking hide to that cheap.
Because we like the camera both legs down,
and And then I had to, like, I
got up, I had to like, put my
knee on my... I put my elbow on
my knee.
Because I was like, fuck, I don't know
you're like, dude it's 50 yards to shoot
the fucking thing. And they're like, standing there,
like, looking at us and lucky for us.

(01:36:07):
He started shot mine. It was... The 1
that I wanted to shoot was the first
1.
And then the 1 that you were gonna
shoot or or this other 1 that was
we knew was legal was right behind him,
and he just kinda like, stood up after
I shot
mine. He just stood up was, like, looking
around and you were, like, well, fuck. I
was like, give me the gut. And it's

(01:36:28):
loaded, but safety Did I hit him? Yeah.
Fuck, no Mine was smack him man bang
flopped and, like, rolled over the fuck. And
then mike... Because... Yeah, he he's dropped...
And I grabbed the gun and the next
1... The 1 of that 1 popped up,
and he's looking right At. I was like,
like, Already had seen him and I wasn't
gonna shoot him because he was 7.
And kinda gonna target this other 1 that

(01:36:49):
I thought was older. They were... And it
was, like, decision time, and I could see
him, like, stick test. You're, like,
like, alright. And then he, like, turned in
to jump off, and I just swung...
I held I tried to, like, shoot him...
I'm in missing him for like, Yeah. The
first shot because he was jumping off the
edge.
And then, but I didn't know if I'd

(01:37:09):
missed him, didn't know what happened. And, yeah,
We took off running and it literally, like,
stepped over his ram, and I He looked.
I didn't look. He looked over it. Yeah.
And he ram like, look up at him
dying. Yeah. He's literally like, fucking his back
leg. Was like, kicking and he's like, watch
all of us like, jump over him and
fuck Tyler like, good. Is he the first
1 and I'm was like, back on... I

(01:37:30):
was like, yes. These first 1, June Yeah.
Because everything else had, like, there's another 2
behind him or something like that. And the
other ones had... They broke and they were
gone out of sight running the other way.
Yeah.
Was there a... Was there a big distinction
between those 2 rams and the other rams?
Was wasn't it like... We... Was it, like,
oh, shit I didn't need to figure out

(01:37:51):
which Ram is with? There was 3 rams.
There there was a big distinct. You said
there there was there 4 there was there
was I think 4 legal rams in the
group. Yep.
Frank's was that light of how many out
of, like, 9 or so. That's a big
band of.
Yeah.
And I wanted to shoot the 1... It
was just like, super wide. I'd seen him

(01:38:11):
4 years before, and I wanted to shoot
him then.
And Tyler talking me out of it. And
he was legal. We thought he was set.
I thought thought he was that at the
time, but he was 8. Yeah. But he
looked like a freaking steer, like 1 of
those.
Like, long horn weird laugh cattle fucking kinda
sheep. And
then to see him again. I was like,
holy fucking shit. I was like,

(01:38:34):
That's the same sheet that I saw 4
years ago. Like, guaranteed,
same sheet and sure shit once we like.
Was dead got video of got... Yeah Exactly,
once he was dead, and we look at,
like, back on the video we're like, oh,
yeah, While he wasn't 70 he was 8
then, and now he's 12 when I shot
him man. So you know, ironic is he
was hanging with that sheep.

(01:38:54):
Yeah. The year before. I year the year
that the year. Yeah. It was hanging he
was hanging with that sheep the year before
I killed him. You. No shit. Yep? And
then it was,
like...
2 years after that that we killed him.
Yeah. That was pretty cool. Yeah. That is
cool. History was cheap Yeah. Like, I was
the course of 4 or 5 years. Yeah.

(01:39:16):
Watch them grow. Yep.
Watch them do nothing, but, like, just get
straight wider. Like, you go grow like this.
You know the ram I'm talking about. That
1. Yeah. You That's. Yeah. Those were those
rounds are weird because my dad shot 1
like that, and you look at them, you
look at him head on, but You're looking

(01:39:37):
from the side and you're like, man, that's
not. I... Oh don't know. Oh, they're not.
And then they turn and you're like, okay.
Like, that's that's a legal ram. Leaving his
was, like, not full girl. It's a 12
year old ram that's not Yeah girl. Yeah.
Never would have been. It's like, growing straight
out outside. Yeah. Some my rather... My dad's

(01:39:57):
widespread rams like that. You're, like... This up.
Foot grill and there's was 9 9 year
old ram. You. But... Yeah. There's no drop
in those type of horns. They just... Don't
fuck no. They're way above the jaw, and
they just kinda like, shoot out to the
sides. I think they're cold. They're very unique.
Mh.
I probably never shoot around like that ever
again, you know,
I mean, I could go look for 1

(01:40:17):
and never find 1.
But
no. Yeah.
Yeah.
I'm excited for this year. Me too.
Yeah we're changing things up a little bit
this year. We're we're gonna be floating a
river and
I'm not a floater or never jacket.
Yeah. I bought 1 the other day, so

(01:40:38):
do you get 1 of the air ones?
No. Because
I was gonna get 1, but I was,
like, what happens if, like, I'm I'm in
my raft, and then, like, we go over
some...
Some rapids, and then I get water on
me, and I'm trying to, like, or. You
They won't blows up on me. Well, yeah.
They won't to. I just bought I just
bought, like, Nr,

(01:40:59):
like, Well, like, I'd been level 3
raft Like, going real resort like, triangular 1.
But yeah. It kinda goes over your chest
plate in your back. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. This
just got webbing everywhere else. Got remote shoulders.
Yeah. Yeah. I like 6 are good, man.
Like can shoulder your rifle and shit with
those on, like easy. Well, and you'll wear
it more because it is a more comfortable

(01:41:20):
exactly right jacket it. And I I have...
So
we're we're trying to prepare as much as
we can, but you know, Sheep season kinda
snuck up on here. I'm not a I'm
not an Avid raft. I mean, I can
jet boat all day long, but I... You
know, we bought an or raft. The reason
we bought Nor raft is because of...
God what's that fucking guy's name that came
on here and talked about as, Larry Bur?

(01:41:42):
Not Larry Bartlett. They the guy that had
the moose and then flipped his raft and
got charged by bear. He was at the
Air force, the pilot... Remember that code Yeah.
Taylor. Taylor. Yeah. Around Deadpool pool. Yeah. And
because of that, he was saying that he
couldn't maneuver his wrath because he had kayak
panel. So Was like, so I told myself,
well, because we're doing this, we're getting worse.

(01:42:04):
So we bought a 16 foot pioneer extreme
for this with with the orc kit on
it. And I'm not avid on and rafting
or on how to maneuver a boat, but
I think we'll be okay. You know, I
do. The river goes fucking 1 way.
It's everything in the river that I'm worried
about that. Those are good or apps. So
so I have the predecessor that the propane

(01:42:25):
pioneer. Yep. Yeah. Nr? Is Nr? Well,
It wasn't Nr nrc that was making those.
It was
It's a Sand boat. Sore. Sore There you.
So was making for Larry Bartlett. Yeah. Because
they were a... They were kind of a
modified
canoe raft Is what they were originally. You're

(01:42:45):
talking about the pro pioneer the protein pro
pioneer. That was the original 1. And that's
narrower than the pioneer extreme. Right? Slightly. Yeah.
Pioneer because the the pioneer extreme like you
got has bigger tubes. Right? And it's also
got an inflatable or
removable floor. Like, mine is not removable.
It's also heavier.
It's... Because it's

(01:43:06):
yours just Pvc Mh. Mine's h,
which the hypo I feel like is more
durable.
But it's also not slick. They both... They
both, like, weep or whatever you call it,
like, they will have avail. No my mine
does not. That's kind of a does.
No. It's not self bailing. No. It doesn't...
I thought that had valves in it for
self. It might, but I don't think that

(01:43:28):
it does. And I could be wrong, but
I don't think that it does.
Yeah. I can't remember. I would like... I'd
like to have 1 of those. Yeah. But
I can't really just... I was actually just
up at Larry house here. In couple weeks
ago because I bought a floor for my
B 49. Oh, gotcha. Because mine didn't... I
didn't have a floor in it Mh for
it.
And
I called him Was like, hey. You got

(01:43:48):
any floors. He's like, yeah. So I came
up there and got 1. And
anyway... I would like to have the the
pioneer extreme just because it has more weight
capacity than mine slightly.
And it's Pvc. It's lighter
and the tubes are bigger.
But I can't. I can't justify selling mine

(01:44:08):
and then drop it. I mean, I'd have
to fork out bunch more money just to
get. I think we paid
2527
hundred bucks for ours? Yeah. That's about pride
but Right? Used.
Who about ours used? And I think they're
38...
New. With everything With everything. Yeah. And be
bought for...
But they can carry 1200 pounds,

(01:44:30):
you know,
I bet you can hold. That's man ringing
puts me in a sheep because I...
You guys are bringing a c. Yeah.
I think it's rated for more than that.
Yeah. Because my mine is rated for 1500.
Yeah. It's the old stuff. I think yours
just 18. How many 30 packs of cores
can you fit in the 02:06?
Yeah. They're nice they're nice I can put

(01:44:51):
in there? Thanks. Oh, yeah. They're nice strap.
So, dude. You'll you'll love that. Yeah. And
my dad do that 09:22 tag.
So we're gonna go up there and and
float
and
Yeah. Try to
do something difference than what... What everyone else
does, you know? So
we got a river that that we're gonna
try to flow and try to get away

(01:45:12):
from people up there because it's pretty congested
in that area. I mean, it's a
haul road hunt, so you can't really... You
limit it, especially when you're shooting fucking moose.
I mean, you stature that tag. He was
gonna float. I don't think he ever dead.
He was going to. Yeah. The biggest thing
about that area right now is there's was
a burn
that 3 years ago.
Up there of the south end.

(01:45:35):
The yes. Yeah. Yeah.
But I think that I don't... I think
that
even though a burned those moose still be
moving through that. I don't
I don't see it stopping them, you know,
what... Especially when they're on the rut, I
don't see I... It would really catch. I
think those moose travel anyway during the rut,
a lot of them. I mean, they're 2

(01:45:55):
area.
Yeah.
They're they're moving.
They're moving looking for cows. Yeah. And I
told my dad I'm like, it's probably not
the first time Moose has seen a wildfire
in its life.
Not like, like, they're no they're no stranger
to this type of stuff. But so My
brother shot 1 when you're
after the big fire up the s.

(01:46:16):
When was that fire? 2000 451
of those... They went thousand 4 2005... Him
a couple buddies were up there. They went
all over the place, loose something up freaking.
Shit piles fires every and it was like,
didn't see a moose didn't see a track.
On their way back.
Day the day before, I think it was

(01:46:36):
close the season,
and they're driving down the skis, and my
brother looks off for the right.
There's a bull. In the burn. It it
was coming out of the burn. Yeah. It
was it's a unique moose because the the
ant are black because it had been in
the burn. Yeah. The are just black. That's
pretty cool. Little... I don't know 40 something
venture, you know, But, yeah. He was just

(01:46:58):
off the road, you know, probably 500 yards
or shit. It was it was coming out
of the hills is what doing and then
get cross. So it it doesn't deter. That's
saying. Is, like, you know, you would think
that a burn would deter, but I think
we're in there in there
in the rut. They don't care. Well, in
this and this was, like, during the fire.
I mean, this is the fire had been
burning, and the moose was still around. I

(01:47:19):
mean, he's not gonna be right in the
fryer. I'm sure. But, you know, they're gonna
get pushed out of wherever that burn is,
but how far they go, who knows. But
a bird that's already happened.
It's been 4 years ago, 3 years ago.
Oh, no. That's. Dig yeah. You got decent
feed coming back in there, and you can
still see in a burn like Yeah. Like,

(01:47:40):
you get a lot of those spots that
burned
back in those fires in 2004, 2005 are
getting pretty. They're grown they're p grown now.
Yeah.
And generally, I think there's moose up there.
They... I mean, you wouldn't think that... I
mean, we live in a a flat area,
but kinda,
where we're going is
they kinda hang up hot... They hang up

(01:48:00):
high, I would think. And then they can't
drop down. They well, they do. They right.
Yeah. You know? So they're not generally in
the... The where you would think they would
be. So... Well, and I've I've hunted that.
Sorry, but. You know, I don't know exactly
where they're don't. But, Mean, I've had that
tag but. Yeah.
And
both those tags up here. Those mousse are
moving. I've almost never seen the same moose

(01:48:20):
more than once. You worked hard last year
for years
16 days. Yeah.
But
just it worked out. Yeah. It worked out,
but
Pub big was it?
I think it was, like,
46 or something I'm sure you're happy when
he saw that thing. I was.
Was fine with it because I believe me
It was a grind for myself to just

(01:48:42):
keep just stay, You know? Like,
I mean, it's not a...
I shouldn't say it's not a hard hunt,
but it's like,
well, just mentally to... Mentally it was just
because it was like. It's see that much
stuff. I mean,
middle and O season is gonna be great
for us. I got this big fucking battery
bank we 50 pounds. We're gonna have a

(01:49:04):
have a flat screen Tv. I was I
was gonna ask little that. Do you know
what he said mean he's like, we can
bring a toaster.
No fucking shit. I was like, oh. Hate
conviction of up there.
My easy bake of it. Yeah.
A fucking toaster.

(01:49:25):
I was like, holy shit. I don't know
why that's what I thought of, But no.
It's perfect though, maybe like what it adds
on.
My... I was like, how many times can
you charge its cell phone and you like,
I don't almost thousand.
Yeah. I don't have it.
Thousand. Well, I still have a Star hooked
up to it. I've been run I've been

(01:49:47):
running that thing since I since I got
it. I charged it up
And I've been running that thing on, like,
I mean, charging phone, charging like, dew wall
batteries.
Good. I bought an electric lawn mower,
like, long charge their battery charge batteries to
that or that and it's still, like, 50
percent. Oh, no shit. We could literally bring

(01:50:07):
a fucking Tv out there. And and a
star. I don't think we need to go
that. No. We don't butt. A toaster would
be funny.
Be like, you want some toast. Yeah. As
a matter of fact I do.
Well, I'm sick like Moose camp, bring it
all sort a little freaking batteries that I'm
like, oh, which one's got a little bit

(01:50:28):
of juice y because we got service
and Well, my shit my phone ends up.
I figured it out, like, with my... I
just use my rigid batteries. Mh. Yeah. Ran
into, like, no more problems with battery bullshit,
Like, I just bring all those 18 volt
batteries.
Through or 4 of them, and you're good
for 10:12 days.
Like to charge your phone. Like you just...

(01:50:48):
It's like clips onto to the top of
the batteries. It's just the Usb the plug
to them. Like an adapter that clicks on.
Yeah. But, like, now,
I can just bring,
like, 1 in battery for the saw all
in a tractor to bring shit. Now. No.
You don't. We'll bring yeah that thing. We'll
bring 1 battery, like, a battery in this...
And a charger for the saw. Right. Bring
that little dew wall chainsaw saw. Mh. But

(01:51:11):
we could leave a gas saw the boat.
Yeah. And
and just take that electric saw.
Yeah.
Mh done deal. Done deal.
It's nice to... I don't know though, man.
All the old timers save, Old boys. Run
chainsaw. Run chainsaw off.
Run your chainsaw.
Split with acts? Well, whatever fucking hammer 10

(01:51:33):
stakes in when the fucking like, most come
to it's stupid. Yeah. Like, Moose is not
gonna come isn't gonna come And mousse it's
gonna come. You could fucking be pissing on
the ground, and it's gonna come to your
urine hitting the fucking ground. Yeah. That's like
he... Him talking about floating. I think he
float a great way to hunt, but I
do think he need it bike.
Well stay in a spot for a while.

(01:51:54):
Like. No. That's...
So, you know, because so many people think,
oh, I'm gonna go float hunt, and they
think they're just gonna shoot a moose floating
down the river. A lot of people do
that. And Well, and... I'm not saying it
doesn't happen. Yeah. But,
I mean, to me, if you can get
in an area and just... And no that
it's good. And, yeah. Or just hone it
for a while. You gotta give it a
little bit of time. Yeah. You know?

(01:52:17):
Nah it be good time.
Yeah. It'll be a good year. I'm looking
forward to Moose Sutton.
Yeah. Me too. I'm was like a sheep
on.
No more sheep, man. But you know. I
know. They're all why all going. We got
the last 1.
I'm just gonna say, okay. Let's go go

(01:52:38):
on.
Yeah. Instead of 10 days. Let's do twenties.
Yeah.
You are a battery. I got enough battery.
That's for sure. We're not running out. Are
you gonna go up the haul road again
this year for
10? The U Haul Road? Yeah. You hall
ass. I no idea. I'm going up their

(01:52:59):
fishing. Alright, yeah? I got a week plan
to go fish.
Don't wanna catch goalie
I'm just gonna go straight after dal. Are
you I'm doing. Yeah. Really?
Yep.
Where do you go?
Give away you see? A secret.
Mean, there's only 1 fucking river unless you're
walking. It's away.

(01:53:20):
But will be walking, but
and with pac.
There's... I don't know. I'm just doing... I'm
more or less exploring. I'm not...
I'm kinda going light on the hunt this
year to be honest with you.
I've been having the patient itch,
doing the fly fishing thing about given fuck
about fish anymore. You buy them at fred.

(01:53:45):
I'm just I'm just... I I I'm to
know I know you. Plus, I don't care
what you think.
No. I have you been fishing a lot
the summer fly fishing? Quite a bit. Yeah.
I used to fucking fly if you trailing
all the freaking time. Like, all, like, 4

(01:54:07):
nights a week.
My my newest latest and greatest that I
I really wanna get into whether... Not I
do it this summer.
Is...
I've never Sp rod fish.
2 hand rod? Yeah. But I wanna get
into that, I think. Right on. It looks
fun. Yep.
Something new.
Talk to a Freaking what's his name?

(01:54:30):
Shit. Oliver
Oliver. Yeah. Oliver. Oh, yeah. To can't. I
think it's can. Sorry Opportunity. All over that.
Shit. For sure.
Yeah. I think... That looks just fun to
me.
But no. It's probably not for
interior fishing get your your 3 weight Spin
around you like. Yeah, I... Grilling. Yeah.

(01:54:50):
It's like, you ever seen those videos those
dudes the like, tuna, the small tuna.
Yeah. Japanese fucking both. Just like rip too
now fine tuna.
You're like matt. Is fucking Gray sp rod.
No. I don't I don't really care for
for doing for the using that for gray,
but
obviously fucking on, but... Yeah.

(01:55:10):
It's obviously kidding. But... And I haven't got
to go pike fishing yet this summer.
Which I kinda missed out early. I wanted
to go early. I you did
with the fly rod just because they're in
shallow water, and it's just... That's better time
to go, but yeah,
That's alright. I don't know.
It was kinda like, I wasn't gonna a
bear bait, and then bear bait and started,
and it was like,

(01:55:32):
yeah. We're gonna
maybe we out a bear. Yeah. And then,
of course, you know how that is. You
started doing that. Eats all your time. Yeah.
Did you... Would would you... Do you guys
kill any me this morning?
Not shooting, nothing.
I had 1 bear. Well, I think I
sent you pictures did I send you any
pictures pictures she did. Or you... I sent...
Yeah. I sent me a bunch pictures. Maybe
it maybe it was. Yeah. I had 1

(01:55:54):
1 shooter. We had actually a lot of
bears on the bait this year, but 1
shooter. He pretty much alluded us every time
he never had a schedule
just
willy nilly,
Yeah. Times.
We had actually 2
2 bears that
their siblings. I think they're 3 year olds.

(01:56:15):
I was still at you. Yeah. I'd love
to shoot 1 of them, but they're was
they're small? Yeah. That colored 1. Yeah.
Yeah. That was pretty cool looking can barely.
Yeah. They'll be back.
I think they will be, but
give them a few years to grow up
a little. Yeah.
Both are males. I mean, they spend a
lot of time there. Like,
every time we sat, we watch some things

(01:56:36):
for multiple
multiple times. You take your kids out or
just you? It was just me and my
brother this year. We we paid it together.
Your daughter interested at all in shooting 1?
She she's shot 1 before when she was
younger.
I think she was 9 or 10. And
she shot 1.
I think
both of them, they'll come back to it,

(01:56:56):
but they're
they're at that age where they're doing their
career thing. Doing young people stuff. Yeah.
You know,
Girlfriend,
all that kind of thing, you know, not
my daughter, but, you know,
alright.
My son. But, yeah, You have to clarify

(01:57:19):
these days. What you do. You never know.
But no. I
I tried to
tried to get them too. I mean, I'm
still that come back to it. They will.
Yeah.
I went through the same thing.
Did you? Oh, yeah. There was about a
probably 5 year period or so there that...

(01:57:40):
I was like all set.
Well, and I was in the Snow.
That was, like, pretty much what consumed everything.
I never freaking.
Once I was allowed,
at 09:10 years old. Well, I was allowed
to go with my dad when I was
9, and then they allowed me at 10
to go by myself.
And it was different. It wasn't like, up

(01:58:00):
here. I had, like, white tail season in
the fall for 3 weeks or whatever, but
from when I was 9.
Well, I wanted a bag at 8
and 7,
but
all the way through. That was 1 thing,
like, as many little changes and stuff that
you go through when you're 14, 15, 16,
17, 18, whatever

(01:58:21):
years old.
That was 1 thing that was like staple.
It was like my dad,
and my grandfather when he was alive and
my brother
and myself
and a couple of close friends.
Was like,
I never fa like every year, like no
matter what kind. Shit I was into or

(01:58:42):
whatever I was doing,
like,
fucking I was haunting. Like, mh it's very
important to me.
I never got where I was like, fuck
could, I don't wanna do it this year
or whatever.
I always was into it. I always wanted
to hunt every year. I could see, I
guess, like, probably, like, growing, especially growing up
here doing the stuff. Oh, I can understand.

(01:59:03):
Well,
Understand for sure. Like, where I came right,
you know,
you know, growing up in Colorado, which, like,
I mean, like, I was just obsessed with
hunting and fishing when I a kid. We
had, like, the shit fishing you could ever
imagine. But
I was all about it and, like, we
cut Coyote all the time as a teenager
like that. I mean, I never got a

(01:59:23):
shot at, like, oh, my dad killed milk
with his bow and
I never just just never worked out for
me big game stuff. We were kind of
fl
at that. But we got good hunt Coyote
and so he did that all time. And
then so I
pretty aide up with it. And then when
we finally moved up here and and started
killing, I started killing stuff, it was, like,

(01:59:44):
freaking watch out, man. I got my My
tea got blood blood in the water.
Yeah But Well, I think dude, like, for
me, it was just more or less.
I mean, I
kinda...
I don't know.
Done it every year. No. You know, not
everything. Like, you wanna I do other stuff.
Yeah. They're at well. And you just go

(02:00:05):
through, you know, phase and that's also, you
know, your friends If they're not into it,
you know, which like back in, a lot
of my friends we are all into the
snow machine You had a lens. Yeah. Well,
but, I mean, you know what I'm saying.
It's like, yeah. For sure. Sometimes it's 2
you're around, you know, and.
Y'all all have the you have the same
interest, and then mh.
You know, I don't know. I came back

(02:00:26):
to it because I was... I still...
Fucking Well, yeah. Yeah. I mean, well on
that. And that's I say that about... You
know, I give Dylan in a hard time
sometimes. I know he's gonna come back to
it.
You know, but it's still like...
I don't...
Sometimes what are you gonna see chasing some
poke box?
I have a buddy That's just it. It's
like are you gonna fucking say? Yeah. Think

(02:00:49):
you're gonna sp him off. Be like, new
past to? Yeah. Fuck no. Yeah. Like, it
doesn't work like... Well, on the thing just
do. Sometimes people, maybe they don't to at
the time. It's... It well, it's just like
me and she this year. Like, maybe
maybe whatever. I mean, I might may not...
I well you don't feel like you got
bunch not like you got anything to prove.
You know no. It's just... I don't get

(02:01:09):
un prove. And it's and it's all and
it's not because all there's no sheep. You
know? I mean,
Oh, I... I'm pretty much fully guaranteed. I'm
going on a hike.
I don't even give fuck. Yeah. I'm just
like I'm going sheep Well, that's why I
kinda.
I used to get so I used to
get so stressed out about it when I...
I'd be like, because I I mean,

(02:01:29):
It's just different It's changed over the years.
Like, I'm I'm still into it. I still
love it. Don't get me wrong. I but
it's not... I'm not, like... But
it's like, I just want... I wanna go
to do it. Yeah.
You know, It's not... I used to get,
like, worried about, like... You know, I got
1, and then I got 2, and I'm
like man how am I ever gonna get
another 1. Like,
it it's just like, you know, you get

(02:01:51):
fix it your your
focused on different things, I guess. And part
of my problem,
I have
lots of interest. There's only so much time
to do
all of To do e. It... And so
it's, like, sometimes I just gotta choose something
else. Mh. You know? And, like,
Yeah. You know, just like this fishing thing.

(02:02:11):
It's like, Yeah. I love fly fishing. I've...
Over the years, I've started getting into, like,
bigger fish on the panel on a fly
rod. So it's like, Have you caught a
pie on fly rod? Yeah. It's fucking funny.
Oh, yeah. It's a blast.
But like Dolly, that's a big 1. Like,
I mean, to me they're a cool underrated
fish. Mh.
Where I'm going up there, it's probably... It's
not the ideal spot. I mean, I know

(02:02:33):
of other places that go way better. Mh.
But it's also way more costly. Yeah. You
know? So it's like,
just try my hand at this whatever if
it works. It works. Right on who cares.
You know, still gonna be out there. I'm
gonna believe. I'm gonna have my bow.
You know? Yeah.
That's kinda part of the problem to you.
Though Like, okay. I got a lot of
crap bring here. You. How am I gonna

(02:02:55):
manage all this stuff? Now I got vision
stuff Like big fucking truck out there. Well...
Yeah. But, I mean, I'm I'm gonna get...
Try to get out. That's what I'm gonna
try to do. Mh. You know,
but
we'll see. Right on. But, yeah, It's more
or less. You ain't got time to do
everything. Oh, you don't. Yeah.
You know, Well, I do.

(02:03:18):
In between cabins, just kidding.
Yeah. I don't know. I just feel like
I wanna... There's other things that I'm wanting
to do and
and I know some of this especially efficient.
I can do that when I'm older,
but
You know, you start... Yeah. We can't do
let's, like, walk away fishing trips when you're
too much, you know, what I'm saying? Yeah.

(02:03:38):
So I don't know.
Yeah. Kinda start prioritizing things.
Yeah. I mean, I don't even know if
I'd call it prioritization. I just...
It's just there's that you can't do at
all. Yeah.
Every year all the time. Now if...
That's if that's a problem though. No. But
if you... But if you have 1

(02:04:00):
you're granted. My thing, I guess I don't
have necessarily 1 passion. It's like multiple things
No. I'm the same 1. You know? They
all involve the same things getting out. It's
getting out. Well, I mean, it's even like
my photography. I was like... There's there's only
and that's a big factor too. I when
I've been out hunt, that's what got me
into doing photography was hunting. Yeah.

(02:04:22):
I can do photography year your right year
around though. It's like hunting. But the still
the problem is some of the cool stuff
you see when you're hunting.
It's like,
are you gonna hunt? Are you gonna do
photography? You can't do both. Like, tick tick
tick tick Yeah. Yeah. No. You well. I
mean, there's there's been a... I mean, sometimes,

(02:04:42):
but it's and it doesn't work like. It
doesn't work that it worked that easily.
I found when I, like... Because I like
photography too, but I... What I found that
really works for me is I take drone
out and a drone follows me.
And finds all these animals. And oh, no.
Just follow... Sorry. Alaska, Troopers baby listening.
Definitely are.

(02:05:03):
I was actually good ask if you figured
out your camera much... Yeah. So III bought
that nice camera. It's not a drone. It's
not a drone Night... That was a joke.
K. Officer supporter.
Anyway, so, yeah, I've kinda figured out the
camera. I mean, I probably know
30 percent about the capability of that camera.
You you got it off auto finally. Yeah

(02:05:24):
It's it's off auto. Yeah. You know, it's
funny. So I gave... So I I gave
that camera to my brother. My brother's is
a really good photographer.
And I let... He went and take some
wedding photos and he showed me the pictures
of like, how the fuck did you take
those, and he could scroll back to my
photos and it looks like a shitty iphone
camera sure like...
But... Yeah. So I I've I've kind of

(02:05:45):
weed my way off that.
I thought you get pretty good. There really
good cameras.
So, yeah, I've kinda figured it out, you
know, like, I can kinda get myself around
things,
you know, I don't know how to use
it to... It's full extent, but I'm gonna
take it this year and
hopefully not ruin it, but, you.

(02:06:07):
But
How's the photography going? You've been going out.
This a little lot?
The spring I did quite a bit. You
did because I just asked carrie the other
night. I've... She told me it was your
birthday because you guys are friends on Facebook.
And then I was like, when's the last
time he posted a freaking picture that was
taken. She was like,
June 20 first or June, whatever the fuck

(02:06:28):
it was, I was. Just wasn't that wool
and.
So... Yeah. Probably. That's probably. 1 of the
last... It the yellow wolf if you took.
That's through the through the brush. That was
1 of them Yeah. That's a great. It's
it's the same it's the same wolf, but
just different.
They all got Yellow lois. Yeah. You had
mentioned the Yellow lois. Except for the ones
that have both. Separate. Yeah. I... We Jerry

(02:06:49):
caught 1. Call 1 1 time that was
had 1 blue eye.
It was really weird. Because I was skin
in it and I I was like, wow,
That's different different. Yeah.
But, no. If I've been out,
actually, tomorrow, I'm gonna go in the morning.
I got some stuff to do in the
afternoon, but in the morning.
I got a Fox in. There's still some

(02:07:10):
kids hanging around. I'm gonna go photograph. I
haven't done any Fox this spring,
which I like doing tomorrow morning.
Yeah, tomorrow morning I'm heading out.
But...
Yeah. It it kinda slows down for me,
probably after June,
for photography. But then hook up right after
move season because you will or even even

(02:07:32):
even moose in the rut and shit, you
like on it. Yeah. When they're actually running
after season.
October. That's the best time. Freaking amazing picture.
October is the best. When they're in, like,
full blown breeding.
And you can usually generally get fairly close
to them because they kinda get really stupid
then. Like, well, they know that's not hunt
seasoning. Well, every... Well, they're what they're truly

(02:07:52):
running then. You know, a lot of lot
of people that think oh, the right. Goes
still September 25 I mean. It's... That that
first week October man is just... It's.
Sometimes it's unreal. Mh. I think
But I tell you where some white fire
weed as you go take pictures. Actually, I
saw pictures. I saw pictures. I think that
Faith was you're all, like, there... He's he's

(02:08:14):
all squat down like, with this with his
iphone. Yeah. You know.
Well, he's He's all belt
cinematic or singing. Yeah. Because we live Cripple
Creek, I don't know if it's on the
Cripple Creek page or something like that, but
somebody who's like, the rarest
white fire weed. We found it like this
dear, like, it's the first time. And I
don't know if it... They didn't say where

(02:08:35):
it was, but it was on that
on that page.
And
I was like, well shit, I could take
you to, like, 10 miles that shit, Like,
whole bunch of different plants,
but I'm not gonna tell you where... Yeah.
Exactly.
And
The last time we were there, you know,
March all with the Gps.

(02:08:55):
So we could go back when they like,
after they go to seed. Yeah. And then
get the seeds and bring them back. And
then we never freaking went. And Yeah. Well,
I've heard what you can do too is,
like, go
stick, like, nails in the ground next to
the particulars nox. So you know which stocks
they come off of. Right. But the thing
is you have to like, freeze the

(02:09:17):
it was Angie was saying It says that
about happened to freeze the seeds.
Don't give a fuck about. You don't have
to freeze the seeds. So you're talking about
growing them blow over here and they
go in the ground,
and they freeze, and then they you plant
them in the spring or whatever, or they,
like, res seed themselves
even if you put a nail in the

(02:09:38):
ground,
what if the winds blowing 20 miles an
hour?
Yeah. Where... How are you gonna find see...
Like, you gotta go do. You have to
dig them up app no. If there's the
other thing where they can buy after after
they, like, go dormant it in the fall
after the stocks they go to seeing and
everything. Yeah. You can supposedly I've heard I
can't. But you can't heard there. Dig year.

(02:09:59):
No. You can't. Because they're year to year.
They seed.
So every year, the seeds, they don't, like
a
fire, they're not a perennial No. They're done...
Yeah. The seed spread and that's where they
grow. So even if you know, like, what
I'm talking about, Was like, I wanna mark
this, but you gotta go back and get
it exactly when it's like,

(02:10:21):
calming.
Before it blows away because it blows away.
It's like, they're not gonna grow right. There
next year, they're gonna blow unless there's no
wind and they just fall straight down on
the ground. Because they... I mean, like, I've
seen a picture of someone,
like Cad 1 Doug, and they have, like,
real intricate big, like root systems
And I don't know, like, where I was
seeing them because where we saw them a

(02:10:41):
couple years ago, there was, like, 1 stock
here,
then another stock here that was white the
too there some of them were white. So
some of them were, like, light pink. There
was, like, I swear there's, like, 4 different
colors
aside from what you normally think, like, that's
fire weed, and then there was, like, 3
other

(02:11:02):
colors.
So Yeah. I have all, but it doesn't
matter. That was 2 3 years ago or
whatever. Yeah. And it takes... I think it
would take, like, being right on point as
to when they
actually go to seed
and being like, got it. Take it. So
what's stopping you from digging it up?
It doesn't see. It doesn't come back is

(02:11:23):
what he's saying. Right. But if you if
you find a white fire weed and you
dig it up and then take it to
your house and plant it in your yard.
It's gonna die.
It won't. Why is that?
Because you... I don't know. It's not be
able live. Can't... No, But you wouldn't be
able to keep that alive. I've heard that
they don't transplant well. Yeah. I don't know
anything about it It's just cool. I think
you're right. You wouldn't be able to transplant

(02:11:44):
it
white.
And
it would die. So... And it wouldn't seed.
Yeah. And if you... In even if you
went back and you were like, oh, well,
dig it up... You can't. They... Because they're
fucking not.
Yeah. I don't know enough about far weed.
Our white is white fire weed that much
to ra. It is pretty rare I think.
Isn't it? Yeah.

(02:12:05):
I mean, how many there's How many are
there's billions of them are on the sides
of the roads and you never see there's
areas where there's, like, holy shit. There's 1
there's 1 there's 1. They're freaking cool. But
that would make sense to if the seeds
are blown in an area.
They're they stay with they stay within that
area area. Because it's gotta be, like, some
sort of, like, super recessive genetic trait. Right.

(02:12:26):
Well, somebody on this page that Carrie was
looking at I was like, oh, it's a
freaking
fuck. What wasn't goddamn damn. No. I'm not
gonna remember it.
I wanted to just say it's asbestos or
something.
What's soon what black fire are we triggered?
And then I'm like, nitrogen. No. Not nitrogen.
What's in the

(02:12:46):
ground all the time here?
Oh my god. Grain is crushed.
Why are people putting
vapor barrier and crawl spaces. What's the rate
trade on some shit like that. Somebody wrote
something about, like, Maybe raid on or something...
He wasn't raid on. It was something like

(02:13:06):
that. They're like, oh, that's why they're white.
And it's like,
come on. That's there's more and out of
a freaking billion that is in front of
you. It's freaking some kinda... No. Well, it
was, like, I I sent you a picture
that white Robin, and that was in my
yard.
Yeah. You know, that Lisa Robin. Yeah. Which
I never did get photographs. I never saw

(02:13:27):
it again, probably. I saw it 2 other
times. It was around
in... By the house. I saw it on
the road 1 day.
Late actually coming back from the bare bait,
Like, pocket away I did. Your my brother
like, what are you doing? And I'm, like,
grabbing my camera and running running through the
neighbor's woods. During gonna get a picture bird.
Yeah. Through this Tweet bird. There is that

(02:13:47):
there's that that white Raven down and anchor
sales going hot for a little while. Yeah.
Yeah. Yep. Well, I've never seen Robin, like,
you said your dad had. He did. Yeah.
In Vermont. And... Well, and I didn't actually
see it originally. My daughter did. She was
going for a walk in the woods right
by the driveway.
She saw this bird, and she was, like,
dang heck actually, she had her phone and

(02:14:08):
took pictures in a little video of it.
And then she showed it to me later,
and she's, like, what is this? And I'm
looking at it and I'm like, it looks
like a robin, but it's white. It has
still had their orange breast, but it was
all white.
Everything else is white. For the most part.
It had a little bit of kidding. Yeah.
I'll show you when my phone's in the
truck I show to you when we're done,
But... Yeah. So I was, like,

(02:14:28):
Of course, I'm out there for freaking, like,
3 hours wandering around looking for this thing.
Because she's like, I was just digging in
the leaves. You know how the... In the
in the spring when all these robins are
coming in, they just... They start digging in
the leaves, like, in the evening time. Right
whatever
figured I'd see it again here. Look at
this. This is just a couple of weeks
ago. Or maybe a couple weeks ago, a
couple months ago, but there's that white.

(02:14:51):
That's the white white raven. Oh, yeah. Is
that the 1 that anchorage? Yeah. Yeah. And
so still around. Like you can just go
and, like, look at it, I think. It's
not like a big deal.
That's crazy. It's like freaking white.
Wait. Everything reality like... And it's almost got,
like a blue eyes almost some of the
photos I. Second a.

(02:15:11):
With I think it's vinyl. It's... I don't...
I think it's Pure Bon. I think it's,
like, what you got pink eyes.
White Oh that 1 1. Yeah.
That's crazy. Beak white. Everything's white. No. There's
not... Like, I don't think there's a lick
freaking anything on it but anything color.
Yeah. Have you seen those trout that are

(02:15:31):
pulled up like that?
Those white.
I turned
they turn
orange.
I've seen they don't turn white. I've I've
seen. Yeah. Yeah.
That's crazy.
Fisher unique like that, though, there.
Well, I showed you pictures is the lake
trout, The variety of them that we caught.

(02:15:53):
Yeah.
You know?
I'm still after the elusive lake trout
in 1 lake.
After I catch 1, I'm done.
On all shit again. I selling everything, and
then I'm fucking done.
I don't care how big it is. Well,
I do.
I do care how big this. It's gotta
be big. And once it's done, I'm I'm

(02:16:15):
over it. And spent too many hours out
there.
Frank was out there 1 1 day. He's
like, I'm like, oh, you're working a hard.
Like, hey, when you working at harding. He
was like, I'm I here today. I'm like,
look out your thing. Do you see a
little red He's like, yeah. So he he's
like, you have any beer Like,
no. I don't. He's I'm gonna go to
town real fast. So he came out. I'm

(02:16:35):
like, you gotta go back to work and
we're, like, half a 12 pack and. He's
like, don't gonna back to work. Like he's
my fucking birthday. Yeah. It work. Randomly, he
text me. And he's like, I'm fishing. What
are you doing? I was like,
fuck this. You know what? I was like,
it's my fucking birthday. Go fucking fishing.
Yeah. I'm already

(02:16:56):
I'm I'm I don't know when my niece
sled getting here.
He said, possibly August. But Do you snow
check 1? Yeah.
Expedition? No. I got a scan. Oh, there's
20 what. Yeah.
Does it... Did all the bells and whistles
are just stock?
No. I got some accessories stuff on it.
Yeah. Box and all that stuff. I didn't
get the box. I'm I ain't paying what

(02:17:17):
they went from. I'm stupid. Is. I'd rather
just have my own box I can make
however I want. Yeah.
But no. Pull it off the slide You
have town and put it on the team.
Well, it won't fit because I got a
20 wide.
So I could build even bigger box.
All more crap. Why not? Yeah. A bigger
air mattress. You know, 600 days or 9
iron, a bigger air match. It's.

(02:17:40):
I could stuff my whole article of it
in the back of this thing.
But no. I've I've already
kinda getting antsy already. I don't know when
it's gonna get here, but...
Probably like,
March. Well like, yeah. I don't know. Yeah
Kyle Kyle told me whenever... He said, we've
been getting him a little sooner. So he's
like, it could show up in August

(02:18:01):
to be honest, that'd be sweet. Because I...
In that weird, like, August with with Skid
doo and Yeah. Potentially. With skid we all
have don't they only allow dealers to make,
like, they have to order all the slides
they want for the next year at pretty
much pretty much for the most part. I
think that think it's not just like they
get a constant stream. It depends on the
snow machine. Well, on that too. Yeah. But...

(02:18:23):
So, like, some at Sps stock. Some at
Sps, they'll get they'll they'll get a allot
in for those. But if you want, like,
a expert version or, like, a
a modified sled rather than just a factory
stock sled, then you'll have the sn... Any
snow any snow check sled that you have
like spring. Yeah.
They only get an lot in for those.
Yeah. Yeah.

(02:18:44):
But the The nice thing is that, you
know, there's a percentage of people that back
out of those Yeah. Snow checks so you
can... They become available potentially.
Because that was always... That's 1 thing why
I didn't spring check 1, 2 years ago,
because I was down there the last day
you could spring check, and I was like,
trying to... I just... I couldn't just foot

(02:19:04):
cost, dude. But I was going expedition super
wide, Blah blah lodge. And after Jed left
him on the side of the. Trail help.
Well, I was riding lisa sled because that's
when my track was out on my tundra.
Yeah. But I have... I do got a
new track on mc tundra. So
those these new missions are coming out with
they're pretty freaking slick. They are. Well, pretty
much all

(02:19:25):
mostly guys like that ice aye ice fish
with.
They all got pretty much the
similar sled, either an expedition or ka. And
I I threw that back and forth, and
I'm like,
Po suspension rides just fine for me. Yeah.
I like the fact that there's nothing they
can catch. Yeah. I'm used to ride my
tundra. This thing is slightly wider anyway.

(02:19:46):
It's obviously heavier. Because it's 4 stroke.
I've never had a problem with my tundra.
So I'm like,
I'm fine with this scan. You know?
They're good sled, I think. Yeah. And they're
reliable. They're...
That's why I'm Christine is that, well, I'm
not getting scanning, but I'll get her the
expedition.
It's not that throttle. It's like, a... So
the throttle a are little different. It's got

(02:20:07):
like, a
the throttle on 2 hinges. Right? So you...
Yeah. You've got like, a a slow hinge,
and then once you get to a, like,
a breaking point then it, like, kicks in,
like,
I'm probably butchering it. Well, you have different
modes. It's called Ludicrous chris. Be. Well, there's
different there's different modes that you can derive
that that it has. Right. You know, and

(02:20:27):
and some of them will have the throttle.
I can't remember actually, if the throttle on
all those, like, can rotate and you can
use it can trigger. I think can. If
I remember. Yeah. But
I don't know. My biggest thing is the
fuel economy because I'm sick tired hauling and
gas. 05:50 burns lot. It does. It burns
fuel. It's been a great sled.
But it just burns gas. And for just

(02:20:50):
day trip and stuff is fine, but these
bigger trips that we've done and stuff. I'm
just... I'm tired
like, our big trip we did last year.
I had the whole. Like, I think I
hold 30 or 35 gallons of gas, and
it still wasn't enough. Ended up buying
10 more gallons off 2 other guys that
were with us that left early,
because they had excess fuel. Mh. And I

(02:21:10):
was like, he's, like, anybody need gas. And
I'm glad he asked because otherwise, I was
gonna have to start conserve
ditching gear, fuel.
Otherwise, I would... And then that sucks too
because when you wanna run our run around
on the lake control holes it all your
burning fuel. Mh.
Yeah. And I'm better to fish, not go
camping it. 2 you know, it's like

(02:21:31):
anyway.
So so I had to, like...
I'm sorry that I've been like,
docile over here. I to, like, reach out
to carrie and be like, so what did
you hear about this?
Fucking white fire.
Where was this? And it was
on some
page here in fair banks,
not to be mentioned right now. But

(02:21:54):
so it's high levels of uranium.
Uranium.
Oh, we got a new nuclear fire adds
extremely rare,
unique men medicinal properties.
Of course. If it's made into tea? Hey.
Does it... So who doesn't wanna drink uranium?
Doesn't it?
Does it grow on a flatter earth? Who

(02:22:15):
exactly. I'm like,
in the picture, hot body that's the ask
neighbor dude, That's ringing the picture, they're not
even fucking white.
Yeah. Those are like light pink. Yeah. Those
are light. Those aren't even white lit legit
white ones. So
if you wanna get... I can't I can't
be I can be bought. So

(02:22:35):
right.
I do have a... I do have a
price.
You? So I'll tell your right where to
go.
You got your f uranium.
Get your flower Got. I got I gotta
pay for these tires.
Your uranium tea.
No. There's a big difference. And you... The

(02:22:55):
pictures you sent me
are
you sent me 2 different because there's 2
different 2 different spots.
No. No. Not 2 different spots but 2
different colors.
For sure.
But some of them were white white and
we didn't even stop to take pictures of
some that were just light pink. Well, that's
pure uranium.
That's
That's white white.

(02:23:17):
And then 1 of them,
most of those were white white too. These
ones were. Those ones were like not white.
They're like, the pink inside with a white.
White white so like the see the, like,
real...
I don't know. The whole... They just look
different.
The for sure.
That's it's cool. No. I know. This about...
Yeah. See this. The white white it's like,

(02:23:39):
all white. You see that and it's like,
green. So even though the part that hasn't
opened up is, like, a different... But well
it's all green. Like, can you see how
this is all green.
And then you go to this picture where
these are white,
green, green, green, green, green, with white,
and then this 1,

(02:24:00):
it's got the insides are pink and it's
got white pedals, even the stock is rod.
Just like regular fire weed. Yeah. Yeah.
So they're unique. The white ones are white
like, the stock is green not red. Like,
it's totally freaking different. It's a totally different
deal. We hurt, man. Yeah. You're written about
flowers.

(02:24:20):
Well, whatever, I'm talking about shit. That's unique.
Yeah. That's that's cool.
It's always cool to get the see stuff
like that. Yeah. Because I've ran in the
things like, I don't even know what the
heck it is. No sheep hunting in 1
Europe on Yeah. North.
I don't know if this is a mushroom
room. I got out to pull up a
picture of it. My phone's in the truck,
but

(02:24:40):
I don't know what it is. It looks
like foam, but it's out in the middle
of the ding, like tundra. Yeah. Like,
Remember when we seen that sheep eating freaking
big old mushrooms? Yeah. Just like, just towels
and all. No mushrooms.
Now, through the spots scope.
At speaking of mushrooms I haven't went out
and picked any.
Yet. I wanted to pick More

(02:25:02):
spring that didn't happen. We went and looked
a couple different spots. Carrie and I did
Just didn't have the right. I mean, obviously
didn't have the right.
Wasn't the right area. It wasn't the right,
so I wasn't the right for us. Never
had him around mushroom. Never bad... Hurt, like,
meat, like, they're good. Are they? Well, it
I... For, like, the first time I ever
picked him, I didn't like them. I don't

(02:25:22):
think we cooked them right and didn't do
them right. Carrie drying them, and picking them
drying them, like,
cooking them differently
and the dried ones, like, re.
Be, like, hanging them to dry. You put
them in, like a d.
Yeah.
They're good. Yeah. I'm kinda like, I got
I kinda got the bug used on it.
I got the bug last year, and I

(02:25:42):
went bought myself a mushroom book, and I
I guess it's 1 of those things you
never sick so. Is this what gonna be
delayed?? Or am I gonna be... Well, I
I will... No. I will say there's a
lot to it. A lot more than III
believe you. And and you don't really realize
until you go out, Like...
I mean, I've seen some of these I've
seen before. Right? But I didn't know the

(02:26:05):
Think about. It's like me watching all these
guys sheet rock, and then I try to
do it my shovel. Yeah. No. You're
I do wrong. It's a very small amount
of them they're actually poisonous.
The majority of them are In Alaska, which
is wild. In alaska or... Yeah. Yeah. But
there's some too. There's similarities between some of
them So Bruce test sport tests. He's worried

(02:26:25):
about all. Yeah shit. Yeah. Yeah. I haven't
done.
It's that's freaking cool. Kevin was pretty good
at it because he
and he told me, and I just took
his advice. And I think that's the best
way to learn from somebody that's already done
it. And it knows what's edible it was
never needed for... Well, that's... That's through there
at the end of the 2 wave and
it's good. Next time you have a mushroom

(02:26:46):
we your yard, just rip the cap off,
take a piece of paper out of your
printer Mh. And lay the cap on it
and leave it there for 20 minutes and
then take the cap off and be like,
you'd be like, holy leash shit. Yeah. It'll
show. The spores. It'll be a spore. It'll
be a spore of all the gills and
they've round kat... You'll be like, holy shit.
1 of these things grow so much. They're

(02:27:07):
just, like, constantly pouring spores
out of.
Like, Right. You do. Pick 1. When you
get home tonight, put it on piece newspaper
in the morning, pull the cap off and
be you will be like, holy shit. You
eat the brown ones.
Will depend.
There's more out. Yeah. There's more fit 1
brown, but...
Yeah. All I get in are... Well... So

(02:27:29):
I've... You know...
Grass. I'm I'm have to use is don't
eat any.
Don't touch them. Yeah. I pick cap, like,
wash your hands after you do what I
told you to do. Wash your hands. Well,
like, the advice Kevin gave me, he's like,
dude. Just pick
2 or 3 here that are, like, unmistakable.
Mh.

(02:27:50):
And go off of that and that are
fairly good. He told me some, you know,
so it was like, okay.
And that was the best way in me
and Lisa, my mother law's. We went out,
picking, my mother, loves it. Like she's like,
what about this? What about? I'm like, I
had to finally tell her I was around,
Stop picking all these. These are the only
2 we're looking for. Yeah. And

(02:28:12):
Shaggy Mains are good. They're in... Oh, my
I loved Shaggy mate Really good. Hunt last
year.
You know, I've... There's places up there that
I found... I found those things all over.
Yeah. And I had smoked salmon and shaggy
mains in water with you 16 8 days
to kill a moose.
That
They can fucking fungus off the ground. No.

(02:28:33):
Was like, no. I found it. That was
all means. That's on easy to tell. Yeah.
They are. They are.
And there's specific spots to look for where
they grow. And then. Like in your yard
in the grass. A lot. That's Yeah. My
mom and dad didn't get quite a few
of them in the yard. But anyway, the...
So I just went off his advice, and
I think we ended up doing about 4
different types last year. Oh, I know those

(02:28:54):
are. And then just
them. Yep.
The ones that I really like are the
white,
they call them Mh combs tooth, or bears
tooth Yeah. Or. Yeah.
That's...
Freaking. Another should 1. Do you know It's
really really good for too. Not here.
Coastal, like ko is chicken of the woods.
Chicken or the woods. Yeah. Yep.

(02:29:16):
Those things are... And you can, like, you
find a tree with them on them, and
you come back with like, 20 pounds of
freaking mushrooms.
Like,
in minutes with a knife you're just, like,
start cutting
layers off.
Like, I've laid out of shirt. The sweatshirt,
it take sweatshirt off laid out. Fill it
up, fill it up and like, throw over

(02:29:36):
my back and, like, carry things back. It's
kind of addict. I don't know. I mean,
whatever. I think
I go to the farmer's market I bought
some emotions off the guy, and it was
not a good experience at all re you
seeing thing. I was in my closet and
there is...
Colors and lights.
The no jumping around.
It was dis dispersed It was a sm.

(02:29:58):
I could smell the color orange. Yeah. The
sn very tastes like sn various.
It was for not a good. Time. I
grew I I grew I grew see, Mario
in Luigi.
It's a medium body.
I grew up by a mushroom farm time
in Colorado and that place freaking stink, and
I just have never liked mushrooms. Well, I

(02:30:20):
didn't like mushrooms as a kid hate them.
Even, like, you can be. You know, what
kid doesn't like texture. But if I had
any mushroom same thing. I would not... I
even pick it off the pizza. It was
on the pizza and eat,
But as I got older, I started the
like mushrooms and dried mushrooms.
But I I think I've had what were
good mushrooms.

(02:30:41):
Like, tasted good. I thought they tasted good.
Mer are good. Yeah.
The shaggy means, So stains are really Going
back to More morales. I've heard that they
taste,
like meat. Is that true? They don't taste
like meat. The texture texture, texture. Yeah. Okay.
They're they're thick kind of a... So is
that firm
dehydrated or is that both

(02:31:03):
both? Mh.
Is it better to dehydrated it? I think...
Yes. You do. And it's also better because
some of these mushrooms
they need to be well cooked.
Well, Else after... You have. Yes. And when
Yes. And when you d
When you d them, you are applying heat
to them. Right So you d them, they're

(02:31:25):
almost getting, like, kind of the double w
me. You d them. And then when you
re them in whatever, you We they're
we just throw earn water or and re
hydrate them and then drain it and then
use them. Yeah. But you're supposed to cook
them. Like, are technically...
Poisonous mushrooms. Yeah.
Yep. At least somewhere else we have here.
I don't know if for all them are,
but I don't think I've ever seen them...

(02:31:47):
Carrie never can look. Alright. I don't think
I've ever seen them. I've never seen them
row.
Yeah. But
I mean, there's a there's a popularity of
in Fair banks because it always... Pop but
his eyes are glazed over to rings there's
a much Like, I've never seen... I don't
know, but I've never seen, like, a what
is it a Ruby crowned king lit or
whatever. Yeah. I see man you have I

(02:32:08):
was like, holy shit I
well, I had to give my third app
to see what Saw was. Didn't find. I
was like wow. Those are tiny little birds.
So I never used to give a shit
about tweed Birds. Yeah. Tell you at me.
All I... Well, but that's even that. That's
another 1 of those things that... Wow you
know, it gets addict. Like, when I did
for started the photography. I don't percent. I
could care less about freaking birds,

(02:32:29):
but there's so many of them, and then
when she start learning them. Dude, You could
live any... Like,
anywhere. What we got here is special. Oh,
yeah. Like, in this...
Around fair banks or in Alaska in general.
Yeah. Like, both the migration of them things
that come here. It's unreal. For converts from
every... Like, it's all over the world. Yeah.
It was absolutely. It's Robins in the wintertime.

(02:32:51):
So we'll actually stay. Yeah. Do you not
many though. So they're a mig board. Yes.
I had no fucking idea. Well, you start
hearing them in the spring and then this
brushes is and you. That... Shit. I don't
know. We... Like, what's interesting because, like,
you been a lot of on the river,
sharp shin hawk.
Interesting and fucking owl.

(02:33:11):
Like, I yeah. You were telling you were
me Can't get over.
I Found these great horn owl hang out
on the rivers all time.
I don't understand why, but they do and
is un freaking real. It's like I said,
many. I think they're eating either baby baby
beaver or musk rats. Or min or something.
Something... Is what I think they're after. It

(02:33:33):
is gonna be forced like, out on sand
bars and... I'm sure that too, but
it's something wherever I see them though. They're
not...
They're, like, on trees that overhang the river
and they're hanging out, and then this spring,
they were just lined up babies, on trees.
Me. I was gonna say I found why
I I found

(02:33:53):
a
2 babies this year and tried photograph them,
and they were it was they were already
fledgling and they could fly. Yeah. But I
could never get close to these freaking things.
For some reason, I photographed them not the
same ones, but some
baby grade horn before. Yeah. And they didn't
really care. But these in particular, they wouldn't

(02:34:15):
let me get that close. So I never
really dig getting. I mean, a lot of
springs I'd run... What for say about those
pictures I sent. Oh, he's just like, cool.
Thanks. Wow. Right on.
Some people don't give a fuck. So however.
But I, like, running the river, like, running
rivers, like, middle of the night. Some it's
like, some nights I've seen like,

(02:34:35):
like, 30 owl. Yeah. Exactly. Everywhere. It's pretty
Yeah. Pretty wild. What I've been noticing in
this year is sharp hawk.
Right at the water's edge.
It's in the same place.
Trip after trip.
Which seemed weird to me.
Don't know. Yeah. I don't know either. No.

(02:34:56):
Well, you get some weird years? Like, you
know, you know, how much it happens like
the year... Well, that 1 year when that
seemed like there was a shit ton of
vol everywhere. Yeah. And Tony and Tony was
like,
Dude. He's like, we weren't great little fishing
and, like, I cut a couple of mop
and they were packed of, like Vol and
shoes and stuff. Yeah. And then we rigged

(02:35:17):
up, like, a little, like, mouse fly and
those gray would just freaking attack that material.
Yeah.
Like, you... You had a hard time hooking
them because, Like, I don't know how a
big, but... Because it was big. I don't
know if they just, like, end up grabbing
them drown and, like, pulling them underwater till
they drown and then kinda mouth them to...
Don't know how they swallow them because... We're
talking, like, 14 inch gray.

(02:35:37):
Yeah with holes with vol.
Yeah. I Yeah. That's... I don't know.
That's what's in intriguing to me with all
that stuff. I mean, I'm I'm all about,
like, trying to learn about that stuff. There's
so much of it. And a lot of
it, so people overlook it. Just like the
mushroom thing.
Once she's go in the woods and actually
Like, I was photograph of mushrooms last year.

(02:35:58):
You start looking. There is so many freaking
mushrooms. It's not even funny. Like,
little ones, big ones, Ones are growing trees.
1... I mean, how many think? I bet
there's 50 different kinds of mushrooms that growing
in the state. I would
Least. Yeah.
Yep.
Well, like, the book I got it, It
was it was written by some mushroom guy
up at the university.

(02:36:19):
Okay. You got a local. It's a local
look. Yeah. It's a local local Alaska book.
Right. But most of the mushrooms in there
are in the interior here. Nice. Alright. That's
cool.
But I figured that would be the best
book to get.
It was recommended by a lot of people.
You know, from here. I many types of
mushrooms did you say there was? Well, at

(02:36:39):
least well,
in Alaska. Mh.
We were just saying there
50 or more 50 year or so... There's
probably... Alaska has more than 97000
Yeah identified species of mushrooms.
Well, there you go. Thanks, Jamie.
Yeah. Right?
Is Jamie.
From Rogan. Hogan. Oh, there you go.

(02:37:01):
Mister your fact checker. I'm, I was carrying.
Yeah. I will. But but, I mean, that
that probably doesn't surprise me, I guess, you
go out, man, and it's like...
I was gonna there's gotta be 75 Fucking
kinda like so I don't know. I mean,
I'm just guessing. But, yeah, There's a lot
of them. Oh, you can eat that.
Yeah Well, and I would say, I don't
know what's what all... How many of those

(02:37:23):
are edible.
What you can eat.
I don't know. That's all that matters.
Is if you know what you can't eat.
Yeah. And if you don't know, you can't
eat it. Yeah. You know those little
I guess they're called salmon berries, but I
didn't know what they're cold. So when we
went on my mom's musk ox hunt, there
salmon berries and that, no. Those are freaking
classic berries. What it look like

(02:37:45):
Salmon aches. It's crazy. Yeah. Chris Carrie
taught in the villages a lot,
and they all call them Salmon berries too.
Right. But we were in nun to... We're
victoria. Can they call Sam Sam. So that's
what I need to... They're cloud. Okay. Cloud.
To them, they're Sam, to me, they're cloud,
but
There are salmon berries are coastal. Cool... Yeah.
And they're big red and orange. And they're

(02:38:06):
bigger orange. They call them, the orange ones.
Russian berries and the red ones, Salmon berries,
and they're like,
fuck, some of them were like that big.
Growing brush. They're massive. Oh, they're hot like,
like, head high. You can, like, pick pick
those things.
You were at
feet level or they're they're, like,
That high. That high. Yeah. So... Obviously, Nun

(02:38:29):
Quebec is in
Coastal. Mh. But the natives called him Salmon
berries. Yes. And
when we were... When we had checked into
the our our outfit or our that our
offer. Our transporter, I'm like, what are those,
oh, Salmon berries. So I'm like, oh, they're
good. Like, the delicious.
So I'm like, oh, man. They just They
look like a un upright raspberry,
like star. Yeah. Yeah. You know? Yeah. So

(02:38:51):
we're out. Must got hunting or this shit
load last year sheep on. Yeah. So Like,
I'm just gonna try 1 of these things.
And I tried 1, and I probably spend
an hour and a half. Just walk around
boom
Eating them. Yeah. Because they were amazing. Yeah.
Right on. Yeah. And then last year when
were she putting, ran do them. Again, and
I'm like, oh, well, Looks like I mean
salmon

(02:39:12):
salmon berries.
I found 2 different places this summer with
wild strawberries.
Looks then I was like,
post it up.
Started eating.
Okay. You got, like, You might yeah hear
lot. We we've had we've had them before
In good dude. They're tiny. I... Well, I
had them where I grew up, but I've

(02:39:33):
never seen them here. 2 different places I
found them this summer. We got them that
we faith and, like, transplant some into our
beer flower bed. Yeah. It seems like real
sandy,
sandy,
soil is where
they seem to be like,
holy shit like the ground is blanket in
these things.

(02:39:55):
You to worst of raspberries.
You plan a raspberry bush in your yard
and You got couple later forever. You'll have
a fucking yard raspberries. You have out lot
of raspberries they're everywhere. Don't mind raspberries. I
like them.
Yeah. That was my favorite thing when I
worked on a fog was

(02:40:16):
Salmon berries were ripe. The blueberries were too.
Mh.
Grab Salmon berry, and you can flex stuff,
like, 3 or 4 blueberries into a good
salmon berry
inside of it.
And it's like, not quite the size of
a golf ball, but like,
that big
piece berry stuffed with and you just jam
that whole thing in your mouth.

(02:40:38):
It's like a flavor
vacation.
So fucking good.
So
That's funny.
Yeah.
Yep. The best is when they're, like, a
little frozen,
they get cold overnight, and eat them next
morning. What I used to like to do
is you get the heavy whipping cream.

(02:41:00):
Like, are the heavy cream? Yeah.
Take
frozen blueberries. Oh, yeah. I know she's said.
Leave them frozen and then pour that cream
on top of them. The it didn't freeze.
And it freezes it. It's like that with,
like... It's like, ice cream, man. It's kids
do that with milk. Yeah. We're, like, half
and half even. Yeah. Really? Yeah.
It's good.
A little sugar on top.

(02:41:22):
Well, the hunting pod cast winter or freaking
freaking nature. We haven't talked about butterflies. Yeah.
You wanna talk.
I don't know man not. I don't have
a butterfly now. I don't think we need
to so word out herb cores.
We get berries.
Connor over here like, what mushroom taste most
like meat.

(02:41:43):
Oh, man. Yeah. We're pretty pathetic. We're pretty
pathetic. The forage.
Podcast. Yeah.
Catches in a month.
Catch in month. Well I haven't shipped my
pants this year, so it's
pretty good are you Are you gonna do
this year and share my pant stories. Well,
yeah. I mean, anyone's always welcome to send
shit my pants stories.
I gotta like reiterate everyone. So Like, hey,

(02:42:05):
you're welcome. You know, you can. You can
send those in. We will, we will keep
reading them.
Yeah.
Those are always good time.
No. But... Yeah. It's chris it's crazy enough.
Like,
I don't know, it seems like every year
gets busier and busier in this summary. Kinda
like I feel like desperate sometimes I'm like,
man.

(02:42:25):
Like,
it seemed like summer used to last a
little while, and it doesn't anymore. It don't.
No. I just write it off as spring
to fall.
Done with summer. Fuck.
Default. Yeah.
Yeah.
What's weird... What's, you know, even more that
taint of seasons

(02:42:46):
of season.
I all all the other seasons are way
longer.
Between... Yeah. But between be and... I mean,
because that's the only the stop hunting period
that we have. Right? You can't... There's nothing
that you can hop between be and cheap.
And you probably could, but nothing that we
know. Well, it's really only about a what

(02:43:07):
a month and a half month week or
so. So yeah. Technically. Yeah.
I guess if you didn't do anything, then
summer would seem like a lot longer than
it is. Yeah. Right. Well, that's what I
always say, like, the bear bait man, It
just
flies.
You know, I feel like.
And it's just 1 of those things too
if you're gonna be serious about it, Like,

(02:43:27):
that's what you're doing. Yeah. You know, and
it's, like, before you know it,
into June here,
and you're going. Okay. I guess I'm going
Salmon Fishing for a little while. And then...
I don't have any firewood either. Yeah. Shit.
Yeah.
My gutter still drugs. You get that chainsaw
running? Bitch. Oh, shoot I you should have

(02:43:48):
brought it. So I do. It's here. It's
in the back of my truck. Don't me
for. I'll see what it. I texted it,
Frank I'm like, hey, man. Such you're Johnson
Red? No. I got Must 1 ask. Transfer
site. I'm a collector. Oh, yeah. For Matt.
I saw I saw the new setting it
down. I was like, matt chainsaw collector, and
then I was like fuck, I'll take that.
I can rebuild it. I thought I thought

(02:44:09):
he needed. I was I'll just give it
to him. So I was like I text
him on a isaac Frank. I got a
chainsaw you can borrow. Yeah.
Like literally it's like, 2
why what is the nicest last...
He's like, I got 3 of them. I
just found this 1. Fuck you are all.

(02:44:29):
So like I'm looking out for the boys.
Look I was like, I know Matt Con.
I was like, yeah. Guy have about 30
of them. So...
Yeah.
But I 1 more. Yeah. Well, I had
to I had to kinda dial it back.
Like, I haven't got a single 1 this
year. I... There was dude on Facebook Marketplace.
Well. Okay? Your your Take Take that.

(02:44:50):
There was a dude on Facebook marketplace. So
he had some saw that I really wanted,
and I was, like,
and he was selling them really pretty cheap.
What is about chainsaw saw? I don't know.
I just... It's just something cool. And it's
old Chainsaw. I was like, I I would
prefer older ones? This one's not all but.
Yeah. But still. I actually my on you.
I have no Hu furnace, so that's the
first house she. There we go.

(02:45:13):
I've got mostly steel and home light and
like you're welcome. Thanks.
But anyway, I don't know. It's just Frank
only had to only had to fight 3
bombs to get into.
They were trying to take their heart governor
to come
show.
I'll tell you the story.
The dude walks out like, as I'm throwing,

(02:45:33):
like, trash bags out, and I was like,
that's you. I a fucking chainsaw saw down
carries like, oh, it probably doesn't work And
I was like, well, fucking whatever Matt fixes
on.
So we start cruising over this woman, like,
bolts out of her vehicle and, like, runs
over and, like, starts talking this dude as
we're, like, creeping over. She's like,
she looks me and I was like, it's
gone. She's taking it. Whether it works or

(02:45:55):
not.
And as we got closer her. I was
like, it doesn't matter. It's not
anyway. Matt's like, into the antique chainsaw saw
and shit.
So we pull up and she's kinda just,
like, talking to the dude.
And then as I'm about to put it
in a reverse, she kinda sets it down,
she walks away.
So the dude starts walking away from the
chainsaw on. I was like,

(02:46:17):
What's up with that saw? Is it old?
Does it work? What's up? And he's like,
well, well, this is broken... This is broken.
And I was like, well I get a
buddy that like, loves to rebuild him?
Loves Loves chainsaw saw.
Sure should I take it.
And the woman, like, got out of her
car and ran back over, and grabbed it.
And I was just like, that fucking bitch.

(02:46:38):
Like, she she this is like, she's couldn't
get somewhere else. She's straight up as just
like, Oh, fuck. Take it this. Like, she
literally like, ran over and fucking grabbed it.
And turned around.
And then she stopped, and she saw me,
like, talking with this guy.
And
as we're talking about it for second, I
was like, well, it doesn't matter.

(02:47:00):
She's gonna take it. She's like, no. I
described it because you... It seemed like you
were into it. I was gonna bring it
over and put it in your truck for
you, and I was like, holy shit. I
silly... I was like, what a dick I
am. I silly like was it like, fuck.
Yeah and she was just trying to be
nice, so I didn't even have to bend
down a bit.

(02:47:21):
And she literally, like, brought over through the
back of my truck. No shit. Yeah. The
good community friends to get it with the
chance I setting. Yeah
You just gotta watch out... You just gotta
watch out before you throw your garbage the
dumpster to make sure no one's in there.
Yeah I thought that's what you were gonna
say. She would fund out of the dumb
fund. Gonna like land on on somebody on
I love those. You're have a tug work

(02:47:44):
there. The past time I ever... The best
time Ever had was I'd be on the
cord. She'd be on the fucking bar.
I went like, a year 2... A couple
years after we he got married. I had,
like, I had bought...
Before we got married, I bought 1 of
the old like, the older big screen Tvs
that was like on the floor, you know,
I'm. Wheels and, you know, maybe like 18

(02:48:04):
inches Yeah. Deep, not flat screen,
and
and
finally, the time came that I had to
get rid of that Tv
and still worked and everything took that to
the dump and, like,
pull and I he's, like, knew this I
pull in there. This guy comes right up.
Testing still work. I'm like, oh, yeah. It's
fine. He's like,

(02:48:25):
It would fit my car, like, I I
could give you ass money. He's bringing up
my house and
I was like, alright. I'll bring it up
to your place and so I dropped off
this tv.
Honey.
Clear have to live in her room, man.
When I moved,
from ul
to Cripple Creek.

(02:48:47):
I had to clear tons of shit out,
and I was taking stuff to the fox
transfer site. Yeah.
I never had to unload a single loaded
anything.
People were there, and I was just like,
they were like, what are you good? I
was like, getting all, get on in there.
All
this all of this stuff. You get them
all in there.
Done in there. Everything's going in the dump

(02:49:09):
unless you want it.
I can... Ever... I never had to unload
a single load of anything. It's swear off
like... It's where it like the
shield your coming from Yeah. Is people. Yeah.
There's literally, like, people... If you don't live
here, like, there's literally people.
Although it's gotten very, like meth
the the past few years Yeah or or
whatever fentanyl and ollie. Yeah. Whatever every not

(02:49:32):
fucking call No drug. Yeah. It usually just
be people looking for
for just hoard. Just good old fashioned hoard,
you know, zombie ish. Zombie ish. Yeah.
But
Yeah. There... That's where all the junkyard yards
around fair banks come from. Because there's people.
They just can't help it. They just camp
out there. It's like a 2 acre lot
full of

(02:49:52):
dumpsters.
And then the middle of them, you have
a
a used and
reuse section where people can drop off just
what not track. Yeah. Like, an old treadmill
or something in clothes and And you'll see
people in Honda civic with a treadmill on
top of that of and right down. Well,
do you you remember the north... I haven't

(02:50:13):
been to the north because when I lived
in north pole, the big 1 by the
high school that, like, yeah. They had like
a huge cover huge covered, like,
area like, the 1 old guy who called
the mall. Like, oh the 1 in the
mall today. Just see what I could find.
It'll drop something off and before you leave
the transfer site. There'll be some guy in
a bicycle with the pull behind. Have you

(02:50:34):
load. Have you not ever been in a
dumpster?
Never.
Never? No. I've never climbed in 1. Are
shitting that? Have you sm a dumpster? Yeah.
But I don't know. I mean, I'm not
saying
Have you been I have. Like I said,
I do. Not in a long not a
long not a long time, but... Yeah. Like
I said, I've got a price, but I
just have not met that price yet. Because

(02:50:56):
Believe... Well, you're talking about raft 1 time,
I found, you know the the cargo nets.
Mh.
Somebody... I found a whole,
like, 6 or 7 of them, thrown in
the dumpster.
They were Cargo nets for for
proud. Been in. And I was like... Yeah.
Fucking right.
I got... We got our out house. We

(02:51:16):
built at the house, like the whole entire
place. Is was like, The whole fucking dumpster
was full of metal,
like, remnants from standing seam roof.
Perfect size for the house. Dude fucking ceiling
walls fucking the every, like, roof, the whole
thing. We need to talk because
we have a guy that just sold

(02:51:37):
a
3 flatbed trailers
full of foam
from a roof. Mh.
You just go to Alaska roof definitely there.
Peel off like, they peeled off. Yeah. Yeah.
Know. I mean, you can get that shit
anywhere. Right. But you wouldn't need to buy
it though.
You. You wouldn't need to go in a
stinky dumpster. You know? I don't try to

(02:51:58):
look out dumpster okay?
Sorry. Frank's leveled up to Wrestle bombs and
Fred Meyer. The liquids
he isn't a bond.
But
Yeah. I'm not nervous about fucking grabbing somebody
if they're stealing shit, fox suckers.
No. I'm I'm with you though. It's like,
you know, there's

(02:52:19):
there's a lot actually good stuff that gets
thrown away. Yeah. I'm not fucking out. Granted.
I'm not hoarding it. I'll get in a
sir. But, if it's something... Well, I that
066 saw that I rebuilt. Mh. You've seen
it before and after pictures. I think I
showed both you. Yeah. That was That was
a dumb find, and that thing was a
hun good. I didn't even know what anything...
I'll, I'll get off. Like, I brought... I

(02:52:40):
got a bunch of someone had thrown away
a big rolls of
Cops about that tall. No. Not copper that
system. Right.
Just like, wire, like,
green color wire fencing that like, faith had
been wanting some for... To put along the
back or flower beds so the dog don't
run through them.
And they, like, blend in. You can't see

(02:53:00):
them and Like, I will bring things on,
But I have not climbed into it. I
And I Have I told this story?
I fucking find this role of fucking
wire
7 6 foot tall wire.
It's a whole roll.
Had a tag on it. It was all
rusted.
And I was like, oh, shit, This is
an dumpster.

(02:53:22):
Still hooked together. Like the whole thing. I
grabbed tag said that it was a hundred
and 50 foot.
By 6 foot. And I was like, fuck,
look, how could this go wrong?
Wrestle a little bit out of the dumpster
putting in the back of the truck brought
at home through in the woods.
I'm in Home Depot.
This is this spring.

(02:53:42):
This is Sat in the yard for 2
fucking years.
I in the Home Depot at this spring,
the guy at the... He's like, fuck, He's
on his phone. He's texting. Then he gets
on the phone. He's like, this year is
so expensive. It's in their same fucking. I'm
like, doesn't seem fucking roll. It's in. So
I walked over to 2 him minutes It's
like, do you don't want be nosy, but
I get a roll that shit sit in

(02:54:03):
my yard. I walked over it's, like, 350
bucks. I was like, hundred bucks. You can
have their old flynn in my yard.
He's like, he fucking serious.
Follow me on.
Text for your address. Puck falls me to
my house, fucking bites the pro.
Like in my art for a hundred bucks.

(02:54:26):
Yeah. Well, hey. What's wrong with that? I
mean, really. There's right there. Help the dude
it out and you got what he wanted
and like, you know, it's like, don't got
it out of your york. Don't tell anybody,
but I got a hundred thousand dollars worth.
Half a million dollars worth shoot over here.
Follow me over to the no.

(02:54:49):
The mall.
Oh man. I got an It's probably it.
Probably don't any any sense if you don't,
like, no fair banks. Yeah. It's it's it's
a thing for sure.
It's a classic.
Great. Now maybe woman on the dump, looking
for cool shit.
Eva might as well be. Y'all was just

(02:55:10):
keep your eye open. I mean, I not...
I don't I'm not certain going for it.
But if I see something that catches my
eye. It's like, yes. Guess. Or the table.
That's just too wrestle.
Brand new fucking building.
Table out of the dumpster.

(02:55:31):
It's nice.
It's real nice.
Why we?
Holy
shit.
Man.
Never know. Nope. You never can tell.
Nope. I'm excited to go she pun. That's
all I know. Yeah. It's the next thing

(02:55:53):
on the docket. It's kinda like it's already,
like,
wrapped my head around it at this point,
like, It'll be good to just get feel.
Like well... I'm excited to stop fucking working
my ass off. Yeah. And, like, work my
ass off even harder.
Yeah
it'd be wet while. It'd be
soaking wet, and uncomfortable

(02:56:15):
I'm rather be able to home. You got
a new sleep in power. You got a
new sleeping in past exactly. You know? I'm
gonna have new boots too. Yeah. It's gonna
be, like, walking on clouds
and sleep it on clouds.
No. I'm I'm I'm freaking stoked about it.
I'm too. Stoked, like, just
get out and go sheep on.

(02:56:37):
I mean it's no different than every year.
No, But it kinda... It's a bring you
back thing that kinda
you know.
I don't know. We try to switch it
up
quite a bit. And
this year it'd be different, You know, we're
raf thing fishing. Fuck, yeah. I've never got...
I've never arrived caribou fair. I mean, I
talked to you about in the phone the

(02:56:57):
other day. I'm like, our focus is not
caribou bear, but It's not gonna stop us
from shooting a nice care. But we were
nice.
You shouldn't. Yeah.
So... Yeah. I mean, we passed up on
a really nice bear last year. And looking
back, obviously, we issued a sheep last year,
but looking back and like, I should shot
that bear anyways because,
you know, why not? Yeah. Why not? Yeah.

(02:57:20):
So
plus, it's a bear in a sheep cut...
It's bearing in sheep country. So... Yeah. Yeah.
It'll be... It's just... Good... Yeah. It's just
good to kick off, like the fun the
fun times of year.
Right now it... Adventure, man. Bonus time of
year starting, like, my favorite time of year.
I love full. Like, told meet too. It's
best.

(02:57:41):
Color Yeah.
Of blood.
Just wait. I gotta get... I gotta...
So I got jet. I... He hasn't tried
yet. I don't even know if I've shown
him it yet. But I got a little
like Moss pump 04:10,
with the grass got the red dot on
it in.
Like, it's gonna be slay in time. I

(02:58:01):
mean, I kids I probably got 40 fucking
squirrels in the freezer.
There's... I think give that gun till it
skins all them squirrels. Yeah.
I think it's gonna be a pretty good
year for g too. Yeah. I've been seeing...
I've seen lots of grass, the young ones.
I've seen baby sharp tails. I've seen baby
ru. Oh, nice. I've seen baby I've seen
more... Nice. I've seen babies from all the

(02:58:24):
birds minus Der again. Mh. This year. Usually,
I see spruce hen and stuff, but this
year, I've seen rough.
Actually, I feel bad the other day. I...
There was... Mom got hit on the highway.
Little ones are running around. Don't know what
to do.
You know, I think they'll probably survive. They're
they're about that tall. Yeah. You know, But
anyway, she got whacked on the road. That's

(02:58:45):
good. I've a been g in a couple
years.
Get the smoke pull out getting this year
and nice.
Yeah. I had so much fun with that.
It's not even funny. Like, get use 04:10
No. It's 12:12 gauge 12 gauge muzzle loader.
12 gauge side by side. That's cool.
You, it's it's freaking fun. That's what I'm

(02:59:06):
excited with, like... I mean, my kids are
1 and a half, but dude... My earliest
memories of my dad. It's my dad wake
me up at, like, 05:00 in the morning
and
getting gas station coffee and
falling asleep and waking up to him be
like, there's a grass on the. Yeah. You
know, like, and it's cold.
Yeah. I think that small games... Especially for
kids. It's a great way to introduce some

(02:59:26):
the Hunt. Yeah. And I get Gi over
it. Like, Yeah. I like G hunting Like,
I mean, just... It's fun. Yeah.
Yeah. It's
well, I want it. We'll bring the bring
the dog with this. Like, I have really
doing much retrieve stuff, but it's over the
summer. He's got... He's like the the squirrel
dog, big time and. Kill his jed get...
Jed gets super wound up about every time

(02:59:48):
a freaking squirrel
He's grabbing 1 of the pellet guns and
running out there and then so the dog
does too. He's learned like,
especially if jets, tuned in. Like, here's a
squirrel he'll go run over there and treat
it, like, sit at the base of the
tree
and running around right then and then, like,
is you're getting set up to shoot it
or jed like, shooting at? He'll, like, he'll
bark at you he's like, come on.

(03:00:09):
Where does he grab it when it falls?
Oh, yeah. But he... He's gotten to wear,
like, he doesn't that hang on to. Like,
he'll he'll grab... If it's if it's alive,
he'll grab it, like, trash it a little
bit, but he won't... There for a while.
He had to break him of, like,
trying to eat it. Yeah. So like, hold
on I'm trying to just gu the whole
thing down. I'm like, no. There was 1.
I literally could not get his mouth open.

(03:00:31):
I'm sitting there holding his, like, mouth.
With this squirrel and it he's just, like,
I'm, like, drop it. He wouldn't do it.
So I was like told Jay, go get
him A treat. So he'll drop this squirrel.
If he wouldn't do it, but, yeah. That
dog gets pretty tail. Like, we went camping
and, of course, like, we're standing in the
campground ground. I wouldn't let... Didn't let him
bring a pellet gun or nothing and he

(03:00:51):
had
my... My dad came camp was. You brought
a slingshot.
And so Jed like, up there like Sling
and Ro, and I ended up joining and
were Sling rocks, like at this squirrel and
the dogs just going nuts barking at us,
like, come on.
Shoot that thing. But...
Yeah.
Lots of fun to be have. Sadie. I
need to get Sadie shooting some g because

(03:01:13):
she's talking like, she's like, she wants to
shoot a bear next year. You need to
get, hair. I'll be cool on the podcast.
Talks some shit. Yeah. She know too shit
mom just go
yeah.
We're sitting in the tree stand
Well, you know, I went with Tyler this
year to go sit in the stand.
And we're sitting there waiting for bears and

(03:01:33):
Jed was... Jed was sitting. It's, like,
if I had 1 wish, you know it
would be? And I'm like,
I don't know, like, toys.
He's like, to kill all the squirrels in
the world.
I looked at tell
Yeah. He's like corey. He was sitting in

(03:01:55):
there. And there's, like, these 2 squirrels like,
I could shoot both those squirrels through and
through. Right?
They're falling with the sixth war.
Finally had to be like, okay.
We're gonna shoot a bear. Oh, when the
squirrel gets on the bear feed, focus on
the squirrel and pretend it's a bear.

(03:02:16):
He's like, I could kill that squirrel right
now.
I'll just wait for the gun to go
off I had I ahead of, like, drive
fire a few you know, a couple times,
get comfortable, like,
you know, sit make sure he was set
up well and
make kids are.
Hey, az it? I got this 22 caliber
pellet gun. That's like a spring,

(03:02:38):
like, break open, but it has a little
like cylinder almost so you put 6 pellets.
So you, like, crack it open to pocket
and then rotate Oh, next fill around.
And that things that stones a shit out
of squirrels. And it's just like.
But, yeah, the other day,
Oh, I... My pellet going was somewhere, So
I I had to use the big 1,

(03:02:58):
and he here like, he can barely get
the think.
But I'm just like it makes me happy
watching, man. Kill. I'm, like, you just you
just go eat your heart out, man because
I would I would have killed to, like,
have woods. Like, where I grew up there
with no freaking woods to hunt in or
or play around the yard, you know? So

(03:03:21):
like you wanna shoot 50 squirrels in the
yard, you go right ahead. I... I could
care less. You,
they keep coming back. They keep... Yeah. They
keep the sears in. No Can. I've tried
quite a few of them at that. Banner
or shot a few at the 04:10.
But
we're at...
I think this morning after this morning's breakfast

(03:03:42):
we're at, like, 49.
I remember you you were texting how many
guys shot. And you showed showed your freezer
apple Yes world. Yeah.
It's We'll go walk out there. I'll show
you there, but there's like a shit. There's,
like, bare skulls and squirrels in there, man.
You should give me 1 of those squirrel
heads on euro it for for jet. He
can feel a little squirrel head on this.
Whole, he, like that... He's been, like, I

(03:04:04):
need to teach this this ball. What I
need do to do He's got enough 1
pellet hole through its head.
Perfect.
It's goes, like, euro.
He's got a perfect hole through it said.
He's got it.
For why not? He's got enough squirrels I
need to teach him how to case get
him. Now... Because he's been, like, he's like,
getting a couple of minutes of time, but

(03:04:25):
he hacks him and, like, you know, kinda
flat skin and then tax them out on
cardboard. Skin Yeah. For sure. So if I
I... It's a good time. He's got enough
to practice so, like, to teach him about
a case skin them and
then make him a couple little stretchers or
something, and and he can like...
Because, no. That's freaking good practice. Would be
a good way to fracture for sure. Skin
stuff. Yeah, Especially the squirrel.

(03:04:48):
But... Well, squirrels is he gonna sell them?
But, yeah. He needs to case get them
and put it and put him up night
like, learn to put them up nice if
he wants to sell them. I mean Bill
usually give kids like, 50 cents or a
buck or whatever for squirrel hides. Them squirrels
were selling at the for auction last year.
Oh, nice.
I was surprised the buck or something a
squirrel. I mean, I think they're running squirrel

(03:05:09):
tails for, like, fly times or 7.
But
pam and jeff keeping skin all theirs, and
they freaking. It's all all of them.
Yep.
Yeah. There was a guy, like, a a
grad student or something from is on Facebook
from Ua, the spring
who was, like, you would buy, like, 10
dollars a squirrel or something or... Or, no.

(03:05:30):
I'm maybe just looking for donate, like, squirrels
donated
but, like, would want it up to, like,
10 squirrels from a particular,
like, our property. He would only, like, need
10 squirrels doing some kinda
science or some science stuff.
Yeah. That's cool.
I don't know. All I know is they
keep showing up.

(03:05:50):
This year's, particularly
horrible.
Keeping worse. Keeping my chicken feed. Yeah. They
get my bird feet. There's that's why many
everywhere I drive around, there they're just like
dead dead that all over the road, every
see them running back forth. Yeah. Exactly.
Yeah. They had a lot of squirrels in
the bear bait here for the squirrels. Probably
a lot more on the bear bait. I

(03:06:11):
remember sitting there just watching things
each other. When you hear them running around
on here how this growth cycle follows like
the hair cycle or well, when we is
when we did or wherever that work. For
a few years after we, like, steak that
cabin, there were hardly any squirrels there.
Like, almost none.
And then, like, the last
however many years, it seems like there's bit

(03:06:33):
a bunch bunch more.
So I don't know. Anyway, we better sign
off, but
Yeah. Good to catch up with you guys.
Yeah.
Shit you. Good luck. Is eighteenth, so in
about a month, little over a month.
We'll see you guys again.
Man? Good luck out now everybody. Yeah. Yeah.
You safe.

(03:06:55):
Good after it.
Or Do sheep pun. Don't even bring 2
pictures Bring 2 pairs underwear. Yeah. He's just
shit 1. Don't shit yourself.
Just reading 1 so you can submit that
your pants story.
You can still initiate your brand story,
but bring an extra pair.
Yeah. Alright. Everybody. Appreciate you listening to tundra

(03:07:17):
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