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May 9, 2025 56 mins

This week we welcome the incredible Mary Marantz, an Enneagram 4 and author of the new book, Underestimated: The Surprisingly Simple Shift to Quit Playing Small, Name the Fear, and Move Forward Anyway.

In this episode, we dive deep into the transformative power of understanding our Enneagram types and how they shape our narratives. Mary shares her personal journey of self-discovery, revealing how she once identified as a self-preserving 4 and the profound impact that realization had on her life.

We explore the moments in our childhoods that made us feel different, the stories we tell ourselves, and how those narratives can either limit or liberate us. Mary opens up about her experiences growing up in rural West Virginia and how they influenced her drive for perfectionism and the need to be seen and valued.

Here are some highlights you won’t want to miss:

  • The significance of recognizing our core longings and how they shape our identities.

  • A candid discussion on the fears that hold us back, including perfectionism, people-pleasing, and imposter syndrome.

  • Insights into how we can redefine what a "big life" means for us, moving beyond societal expectations.

Mary’s wisdom and vulnerability shine through as she encourages us to embrace our stories, both the beautiful and the painful. This episode is a must-listen for anyone looking to understand themselves better and to find the courage to move forward.

Tune in now to hear this enlightening conversation and discover how you can start to shift your own narrative!

 

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