January 25, 2024 • 66 mins
You will fully enjoy this tour through the heart and journey of Frank Naea. “My journey in this whole revelation has been like going back to school again. If any man thinks they know something, they do not yet know as they ought to. This journey has not just been about learning something new; it has also been a journey of unlearning what I thought I knew. After 30 years of being in Youth With a Mission, youth pastoring and many other things I have done, you have a groove, a way of seeing and doing. I have realized I am still in process; Father is still fathering me in some places I did not know I needed fathering!”
Franks opens up about this unlearning and relearning - it will open your heart more for your own adventure with grace, faith and Father.
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Frank Naea (00:00):
Oh no, it's been good just seeing some faces on
there.
It's been really wonderfulseeing Arlene and Lutz.
When we first came, you werethe guys that were part of the
team.
You could just see someislanders there, erin, and where
are you?
Yep, there you are and let'ssee.
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Oh, I see I'm on the wrong page, that's why.
No, it's just good to see somefamiliar faces.
And it was Mary Ann.
That's there she is.
She's turned away.
You know, she's turned thecamera off.
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There she is, hey, mary Ann.
Mary Ann and I used to go toschool together.
It was the INS, but you knowit's still.
We went to school together.
In fact, I think that's probablywhat my journey in this whole
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revelation has been.
It's been about going to schoolagain.
There's a wonderful passage inthat.
I didn't really think was thatwonderful when I first read it,
but it's in 1 Corinthians 8.
It says if any man thinks heknows, let him understand this,
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that he does not yet know as heought to know.
And I just thought oh, I knowit's in there, I know it's part
of the whole book, but it's justthat you know.
For a long time when I read it,it didn't apply to me, because
it was just one of those otherverses, until you come into this
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revelation, you see, and thenit wholly applies to me.
So this has been it's reallybeen a journey of not just
learning but unlearning.
And so, after 30 years in youth, with a mission and you know,
and being a youth pastor beforethat and doing a number of other
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things, you have a groove, youhave a way of seeing and doing,
and so I realized that I'm stillin that process of learning.
They're father, you're still.
You're still fathering me insome places where I didn't even
know I need fathering.
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One of my favorite passages ofscripture it's, it's, it's
really just a question, and itcomes out of Genesis three and
it says in Genesis three, verse11, it's where it is.
So who told you?
Who told you?
And I realized that I'm I'mabsolutely filled up with so
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much stuff that I've been toldby this one and that one, by by
reading, by hearing messages, bybeing in schools and seminars
and conferences, and so thequestion really was who told you
?
And of course, the second partof it was have you eaten from
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the tree?
I told you not to eat from, andso that's where all the the
unlearning has come, I realizedthat I've gorgeous myself on
from another tree, and theunfortunate thing is that it's
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it has a wealth of fruit for youto partake of, but the fruit
has this it has this taste, ithas this phenomenon and that
once you've eaten from it, itwill begin to divide.
It creates two things.
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It creates an alternative, youknow.
So you begin to see everythingin terms of light and dark, or
good and bad, or right and wrong, or in and out, or up and down,
and you realize that this wholerevelation of the love of the
Father actually is to, is tobring us back to the original
tree, the tree of life that thenmarries everything together
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again, because in that tree, yousee, in him, where everything
is held together in the sun,there is no Jew or Greek, there
is no slave or free, there is nomale or female, see, but
they're all one.
And so that's what I've beendiscovering is really my, my
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journey of learning that thingsthat have been split or divided
or separated in me by way of myunderstanding and learning and
accumulation of stuff over many,many years has caused me to
have split perspectives andideas of who, even who, god is,
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and so in the journey he's beenmarrying me, he's been marrying
me back together again, and soit's.
It's like that passage, you see, that says no longer will your
land be unmarried, no longerwill it be barren, no longer
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will it be separated or divorced, but I will call you chosen and
beloved, and and so wholenessis when he comes and he takes
the split or the divided thingsin you and marries them back to
oneness.
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So so the reason I wanted tostart with that is because just
recently, something I had never,ever considered was we were
doing an A school in Melbournejust recently and and I had
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become used to over the last 10years, having a, you know,
sometimes, in fact, the schoolwe went to in Canada, probably,
the age range was probably 50,50, half of the half of the
school were 50, 60, 70 and theother half would have been 30,
40, some 20 year olds.
But that was, that was a splitbutton, but not necessarily the,
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the generation of responsetowards this particular
revelation that most of themwere older and age, older and
ministry life, older andgenerational history, older and
perspective.
And so, because I'd beeninvolved in youth with the
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mission, I thought I'm well, I'm, I'm fairly.
You know you get like thosepeople you hang around with.
So I still heard on the side ofI'm still younger, even though
I'm a year old.
And so we were with the schoolin Melbourne and the very first
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day.
You know we are, we have a coretopics and and so I'm heading
deliberately, intentionally,towards teaching on and speaking
into heart forgiveness, but asI stood up that morning, first
morning of this particularschool, it just wasn't there in
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the classroom.
I was desperately searching forit because that's that's the
groove for the school, but itwasn't there.
And but as I looked around theroom, probably two thirds to
three quarters of the room were30 or less and totally focused,
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totally there.
But the other thing that wasthere in the room was pain, hurt
, suffering, and you couldalmost hear, you could almost
feel in the room just thetangible nature of.
We don't want to hear any moreverses or teaching or
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instruction.
What we want to know is wheredo we take this stuff, where
does it go?
We don't want to heardescriptions of verses or
stories about somebody.
We just want to know is I havepain, where do I take it?
Because as a generation, yousee that same pain, that same
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stress, that same anxiety forthem as a generation, has
resulted in the culmination oflife.
So for them it's a very realquestion, you see.
And so, first session, we'rehaving this little conversation.
So what's what's happening inyour hearts?
And I just said so, we're goingto have some of the team come
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and just stand at the front hereIf you want to come forward.
We haven't taught anything.
All we've done is anintroduction the night before.
Would you like to come?
And more than half the schoolliterally runs to the front.
You know, we've heard aboutthis, We've heard about this
love of the Father, we've heardabout this comfort.
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That's what we came for.
And they just ran to the front.
After that we had a break,taught the first session and at
the end of the session saidagain if there's anything that
Father is stirring and you have,the Spirit is stirring in your
heart and you want to comeforward, the team are going to
be here Again, more than half ofthe school literally run to the
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front.
We had soaking in the afternoonand then we had another session
at night, and the same thing.
If there's anybody and you have, because you can just feel it
in the room, you know, would you, if you want to come forward,
please come.
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And so two things that I noticed.
One was that the ladies in theteam were the primary target.
The rest of us guys, we mayhave had one or two people, and
but the mothers were just, they,just they literally ran to them
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and they were in tears beforethey even got there.
One girl really stood out to me.
I know her family.
They've been in ministry forprobably more than 20 years and
so this is their, this is theirdaughter.
She came, she's now married,has a couple of children, but
when she, when she came andwrapped her arms around this one
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of the ladies in the team, itwas almost like a primal screen.
This thing just came out of herand it felt to me like a
generational crime and it wasalmost as though there it is,
there it is.
That's that I've been lookingfor, that, you see, I just I've.
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I've heard about the keys andthe principles and the truths
and the ABC and the five stepsshe said, but nobody has taken
me to to meet, to encounter, toembrace the love of the father.
And so, you know, as a team, wewere really were quite taken by
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surprise.
Here we have three times thatwe've had responses in the first
day and we haven't got to heartforgiveness here, which in
every other school you see, isthat's when you're beginning to
price things open.
And I realized that the schoolsbefore have, they have
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theological hurdles that youhave to, that you, you're aware
that you encounter because thesepeople are 4050, 6070 and
generationally see, they have anaccumulation, just like me, of
theological hurdles that youhave to undo and unlearn before
you can move ahead or move intoor embrace.
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And, to my surprise, the firstsoaking instruction that we had
was that afternoon on the firstday.
And again, we just go and ifyou have anything that you want
to share, you know from what'sFather saying to you.
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And this one guy stood up and hewas me.
He was me 40 years ago, he wasin his early 20s, he's a truck
driver, he's a Pacific Islander,he's not long married, he's
just had his first son, and thatthat was me 40 years ago.
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And one soaking session.
And at the end of it he juststood up and he just, with all
of the simplicity and naivetyand innocence of somebody who's
just begun the race, who's juststepped out onto the track, and
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he just, with this incredible,with big, bright, wide eyes, he
just said I just realizedsomething.
He said I just realized thatI'm free.
And I turned immediately to theguy that I was sitting next to
and I said to him man, it tookme 10 years to get to that and
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all of a sudden it's like this,it's this heart revelation.
You see, that I have aperspective that faith and the
application of it is incremental.
It's line by line, it's preceptupon precept, it's linear and
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it's logical, and so I amlooking, even in the course of
the school, to build this uponthis, upon this, because that's
how we understand it, you see.
And all of a sudden I realizedthat this is not just a
generational difference, it'sthat my understanding of faith
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is that faith, even when youapply it, is incremental.
You see, when I first learnedabout living by faith, it was we
have $10 faith, so then we canhave $100 faith and then $1,000
faith and then million dollarfaith, and that was the kind of
language.
But in that moment the thingthat occurred to me was the
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thief hanging on the cross nextto Jesus can't afford to have
incremental faith.
It's either all true or it'snot.
It's a reality or it isn't.
He doesn't have.
You see, there are two thingshanging there.
And the one thief says well,it's all circumstantial, if you
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can just fix the circumstances,then I'm good to go.
If you can just get me downfrom here, I got the rest.
I can take care of the rest.
I know how to do that.
But the other thief says to himin very in layman's terms, he
says shut up, you have no ideawho it is that you're speaking
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to.
We're here because we deserveto be here.
He is not.
You don't know who he is.
And he has this conversationwith Jesus.
He said, and he says Jesus,would you remember me when you
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come into your kingdom?
Would you remember me?
And some translations say thisand it's that.
And it says, it's just a shortfew words.
It says in Jesus turned hishead.
You have to remember thecontext of him turning his head
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is after he's been beaten, afterhe's been crucified, after he's
been whipped and spat on andhumiliated, after he's been
stripped naked, after he'sendured all of these things,
after a bare raw flesh has beenlaid down on roughsorn timber.
You know, as I 53 says, that hedidn't even look like human
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flesh.
It looked like a carcasshanging on a stick and I am
struck by this.
Jesus turns his head, but heturns his head because this man
is expressing the true nature offaith.
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When you come into your kingdom,remember me, this 23 year old
truck driver stands up on dayone.
He's, he's been in, in, in thisrevelation, if you want to say
that way for 10 minutes and outof his mouth comes, just
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realized I'm free and I justthought, hey, I know this is not
a sprint, but I'm fairly surethat there are some hurdles in
the race and I don't see youjumping over them.
How come you just go like that?
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And and I really felt like afather was challenging me he
says you know, frank, your, evenyour concept of faith is that
it's learned, that it'sincremental, that it's step by
step.
But he said you're not hearingwhat I'm saying.
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You can see, because for a longtime this word has applied to us
, and that is today.
If you hear my voice and how to, not your heart.
You see it's, it's immediate.
He says it's, it's according toyour faith, your heart's belief
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in who I am and who you'reseeing and who is.
You know this girl who comesand just wraps her arms around
one of the teams, there is aprimal scream and she said this
this is it, and she lets it allgo.
I don't know how many yearsshe's been carrying that, but
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you see, there's a, there's ahunger out there and it's not
just generational, it has to dowith.
It's a revelation in terms ofeven understanding and seeing
that the reason why thisrevelation is revelation is
because it can be instantaneous.
It's the nature of faith Today.
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If you hear my voice and do thisone thing, don't stop it from
doing what it can do.
Don't run it through the mill,don't run it through the
processor, don't run it throughthe oh, what about that?
And what about that?
Don't run it through the cellphone.
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So and I realize that that'swhat it's he those are all my
hurdles, but they're minebecause it's part of the
landscape of my generation.
We've learned how to evenexercise our faith that way.
But the father is saying unlessyou come, like a little boy, you
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see, without all the hurdles,without all the hindrances,
without all the yes, but whatabout?
It has not entered into thehearts of the minds of men the
things that God has in store.
God is not fathering us have awonderful conversation with my
daughter this morning and wewere talking about.
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She said Dad, I feel likethere's two people inside of me.
One of them is trying to sortthings out and understand and
get the answer and the solutionand cross the T's and dot the
I's, and the other one is justabsolutely falling in love.
But because I've never knownthis one who's falling in love,
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I keep defaulting and deferringback to sorting things out.
So then then I can fullyimmerse myself into the love.
And I said to her what I'veheard one of my friends say, and
that is it.
All depends on whether you wantto be fixed or whether you want
to be loved, because the natureof love, it, covers a multitude
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of sins.
It is the sufficient solution.
It's why the primal scream isnot looking for an explanation,
it's looking to meet him face toface.
We don't care about theexplanation, let the explanation
come.
We just want to see him andtouch him and have him touch us.
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And I have to tell you that, ofall the schools that I've been
involved with, this school wasthe hardest Because it went
somewhere that required of me tostop thinking in terms of
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sequence and order.
And you know it's justsomething there.
You see that it has to be.
Isn't it supposed to be?
Line upon line and precept uponprecept?
Isn't that the way it'ssupposed to be?
And that's the nature of theteaching and the instruction and
the growing.
And that may be happening to usin spirit, but in spirit, you
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see, it's an immediate thing.
We are being translated into adifferent kingdom where the
ground rules are not the same.
The love that, when my daughterwas talking to me about this
love, she just said, dad, I,just I was overwhelmed.
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It's as though Jesus came to meand he was loving me with such
a pure love I, just I had, therewas no resistance, there wasn't
anything in me that was askingfor well, what's?
What verse goes with that?
Can you tell me?
Can you explain ABC?
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It's just, when love came, itjust, everything else just faded
away.
And I said to her you know,it's not that God is wanting to
make light of your journey orthe issues or the struggle, it's
just that love covers and itdoesn't mean that it sweeps it
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under the rug.
That's not what love does.
Love hovers, restores, givesback fills, wraps itself around,
it holds you while the old isfading away, while it is, it's
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released in this primal screamand sometimes they're just
aren't words.
You see, it's not.
We're not asking people toexplain.
There was a time in you,through the mission, when we
would do that.
We called it openness andbrokenness, where the emphasis
was on your turn.
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Stand at the front and go.
This is me, this is my list,this is my stuff.
But more and more you see whatI'm.
What I'm seeing is that the loveof God is coming and
confronting our lists, whetherwe have one or not, whether it's
that long or whether it's thatlong, isn't the point?
It's, when love comes, it'sbreaking all of the other rules
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because it's not coming even.
By the same way, it's notcoming to explain.
It's the reason why you can'tteach people into the revelation
of the Father's love.
And that, for me, has been ahard thing to learn because, as
Brandt said in the beginning, Ihave been teaching this for 25
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years.
I've been explaining it topeople for 25 years.
I've been trying to find adiagram or a sequence or an
order or a formula or aprinciple or a process that will
lead them there, that will helpto take them there.
But you know, when I get thetestimonies from different
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people around the world, whatwas it that changed them?
And nine times out of 10, youknow, it's well.
I can't remember what youtaught that week, but I remember
when you held me and I justthink well, so what was all the
rest?
All the rest is really just.
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It's me and my journey.
And don't you know, I'm notthrowing the baby out with the
bathwater, but in desperation,what this world is looking for
is show me the money, show methis love, please, please.
If you have to explain it ordraw a diagram or something like
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that, if you have to take methrough, if you have to jump
over all these things, ifthere's, then I'm not sure that
that's what I'm looking for, butyou see, but they are grasping
it.
The second day we have soakingagain and you know, here's this
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young girl, asian, australianand she stands up.
She said oh, I am.
I just.
I just was having aconversation as I was soaking.
I was just talking with thefather and I said to him oh, I
would love to see the universefrom your eyes.
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What, what, what is that allabout?
And he said to her Come on,then let's go.
And she said, oh, but doesn'tthat happen after I die?
Because, you see, that's whatshe's understood as the process?
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And and he said to her oh,what's wrong with now?
And again she stands up andshares this with the classroom.
And I turn to my friend andthis time he says to me Well, if
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that's what you're getting inyour first soaking time, she
gets to.
You know, look at the universewith the father.
You see, I remember when wefirst started having these times
, you know, I got, I got a warmfeeling, I got a picture of a
palm tree.
You know, I got a verse, andnot even the whole verse, just
half of a verse.
She's encountering him andgetting having this really
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simple, childlike discussionabout oh, could we have a look
at the universe?
And and again, you see, I'mstruck by yeah, but, father,
what about the progressions,what about the sequence, what
about the order, what about theway that that I have come, like
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this?
And he said, yeah, no See,frank, this is not about you
teaching them the way that youcame.
Testimony is good, it is aboutyour story.
But you see, what they'recoming for is this incredible
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reality of encountering andmeeting him face to face.
The woman at the well has noidea who she's talking to until
he says boo.
But after that everythingchanges.
And if the eyes of your heartare open, you see, then, like
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I'm encountering with theseyoung people, then today, in
this moment, and today, is thisreoccurring.
Now, today, if you hear myvoice, the sense that I had of
it was then hold me to it.
If you hear me say it, hold meto it, ask me again, so you know
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, I was sure that you said thisthen hold me to it.
And and and.
These guys are just, see,they're dumb enough, they're
silly enough, they're naiveenough, they're innocent enough
to take him at his word.
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I have to, you know, do a coupleof laps around the Old
Testament, run through theGospels two or three times, and
what about this, and what aboutthat, and what about the other
thing?
And I'm realizing, you see,that even my concept of faith is
just a concept.
God has accommodated me becausethat's how I've understood him,
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until I met somebody else whounderstands him a totally
different way.
See, there's this incrediblegift of grace, he says.
You know, and we're all savedby this grace, which is a gift
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given to us and not by works,lest any man should boast.
But I was asked to go speak inthe church in in Australia and
they said, oh, we're having asequence, you see.
And I thought, oh, yes, I knowthe sequence.
You know, our whole church isgoing through this book and then
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this chapter and that chapter,and so when you come, we're
going to be up to chapter twoand verses one to 10.
But if you want, you can speakyour own, do your own message.
And, of course, everythinginside of me is oh well, yeah,
this is easy because I know thisand I know what I think they
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should know.
And so this is what I know.
Well, I felt like the Fathersaid to me do Ephesians two?
So I had a quick read throughbefore I said yes to the pastor.
And you know verse eight.
Oh, there it is.
You know by grace.
So you say through faith andnot of yourselves.
That is the gift of God.
And I just thought, yes, I knowwhat I'm going to say.
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The night before I said well, sofar, there is anything that you
, this, in particular in thisand these verses that you want
to say.
And he said yes, and I said sowhat is it about verse eight
that you want to say.
And he said it's not verseeight, I want to.
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I want to talk about verseseven.
So you just see I can get thisand I just want to read it to
you.
So here we go, ephesians 2.
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And verse 7 says sorry.
Verse 8 says For by grace youhave been saved through faith,
and that not of yourselves, itis the gift of God, not of works
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list anyone should boast.
Verse 7 says that in the agesto come, he might show the
exceeding riches of his graceand his kindness toward us in
Christ Jesus.
And I said so in the ages tocome, he might show us the
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exceeding riches of his grace.
You mean verse 8.
And he said no, he said, if yougo back to verse 4, it says but
God, who is rich in mercy,because of his great love, with
which he loved us even when wewere dead in trespasses, made us
alive together with Christ.
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By grace you have been savedand raised us up together and
made us sit together in theheavenly places in Christ Jesus.
And he said, frank, two things.
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One is that there is more thanone expression of grace.
There is what we call a savinggrace.
There is a grace that has beenthe gift of God and Christ Jesus
, who is this wonderful gift ofgrace to us and that has led us
to salvation.
But he said there is more grace.
He said there is a grace thatraises you up.
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And then there is another gracethat seats you in heavenly
places.
And the nature of these gracesis that they are not of yourself
, lest any man should boast youknow, having got in, it's okay,
I can take it from here.
You see, having got me downfrom across, having now that I'm
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not going to die forever andever, I can take it from here.
I've got it, you know.
You see, there's a grace thatwill raise you up, there is a
grace that will seat you inheavenly places.
But you get there the same way,not of yourself.
And all of a sudden I realized Ireally don't understand this
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grace of verse eight at all,because I thought it was the
grace.
You know, it's kind of, and youjust you stretch it to cover
everything he says.
He said no, this is thebeginning, this is so that you
will know how to partake of andhow to walk in and how to live
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in and how to receive and how todive into this grace, which
doesn't come from you workingharder.
Having got saved, you don't nowhave to finish it off.
You know, it's the and that'sthe whole message to the
Galatians.
You see, all foolish Galatians,having begun in the spirit,
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will you now complete it all inthe flesh?
It was such a wonderfulconversation with my daughter.
Oh, dad, I, just when, when hecame, and it was, it was like
love, just I had no defense.
He was so beautiful, he was sogentle and tender and kind and
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sweet and loving, and there wasjust nothing in me wanted to
resist or hold back, and Ialmost had.
I it's as though I had norecollection of the past.
This love covered all of thatand much, much, much, much more.
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See, we had a little bit of aside conversation about warfare,
you see, and we realized thatin our conversation.
We realized that if love ischanging the nature of how we
understand faith, it's alsochanging the nature of how we
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understand warfare.
You see, we're not quickly puton some armor, grab a sword and
let's go.
You know, hack and slash.
You see, there is a grace,there is a provision, there is a
, there is an, an allsufficiency in this grace that
not only has has redeemed you,has taken you from death to life
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.
This love, this grace, thismercy, this completeness, this
wholeness will actually raiseyou up.
It will teach you how to stand,it will take you to that place
of being capable.
As I say, I think it's anEphesians 3.
It says every spiritual gift isprepared for us.
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You see, it's made ready for usto walk into.
It's already there.
We just haven't known the graceto appropriate it, but it's
there.
And so I go to a school inMelbourne and here's a kid who
he doesn't even read his Biblethat much.
His idea of quiet time with Godis having a beer with him.
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That's literally his idea ofrelationship with God.
So totally unreligious, totallyunredeemed, totally not
churched, totally.
There are no hurdles there.
He's just, very simply, I'mjust a, I'm just a fisherman.
You know, I don't know any ofthese things.
You know.
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In fact, the only way I'm goingto know is if the father
himself comes and reveals it tomy heart.
Then when I see it and when Ireceive it, I'm going to say yes
, and the barrenness and thedryness and the thirst of not
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having found that, of not havingseen that or experienced.
That is going to be like aprimal scream oh, let this old
stuff get this old clothing offof me.
I've sat under it, I've beenunder it for so long.
I just need to meet him face toface.
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But when he comes, you see,there is a grace that takes us
from death to life.
And then there is another gracethat will raise you up.
Sonship isn't, but I'm, youknow I'm, I'm doing the best
that I can do.
The sunship is this revelationbeing poured into us and him,
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when love comes.
And it covers that multitude ofthings from the past to see
sort of sees in Romans.
If sin can come into the worldby one man, then righteousness
can come by one man as well.
So let the one cancel out theother.
You see, it all depends on ifyou want to be fixed or if you
want to be loved, and love doesso much more than supersede.
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In fact, there is a grace thathas been provided for us.
It's been there in Ephesianstwo all this time, but I've just
been, you know the verse eight.
There it is.
That's the bit that I've heard,that's the bit that I quote,
that's the bit that I remember.
The only problem is is that ithas made very limited and narrow
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the grace that I've even knownthat I could walk into, I could
receive, I could partake on.
You see, it's not by our ownworks, but it's a grace, it's a
gift, and it's not just a giftthat saves you from death to
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life and now you're on your ownkid.
This grace will raise you up.
This is, this, is that.
It's that silhouetted picture,you see, of the father walking
with the little boy or thelittle girl and holding hands.
He said come on, I'll show you,I'll show you how I can, I'll
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take you there.
I've been really enjoying the,the benediction or the doxology
there, you know, and becauseit's so, I realized that there's
so much more to it.
It's summarized for us, butit's, but it's for me, it's.
It's been summarized and I'vejust used it as a, as a
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throwaway quote.
But it's this, you see, madethe grace of our Lord Jesus
Christ.
And all of a sudden now, afterreading Ephesians 2, grace has
much, much, much, much, much,much, much more.
You see, there are things thathave been prepared in advance,
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because that's the nature ofsonship, discipleship is you are
having to accumulate andacquire, and line upon line and
precipitate upon, precipitateand and step by step and
incrementally, and linear andlogically.
But you see, that's not thenature of faith, because this
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grace is affordable to you nowand now and now and today, and
today and today.
If you hear my voice and if youdon't refer back to the last
preacher who said this, that maysound really lovely, and don't
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get me wrong, this is not aboutpreachers.
But you see, man shall not liveby bread alone.
We shall live by every wordthat proceeds out of the mouth
of God.
So today, if you hear him speak, hold him to his word.
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If you hear him speak, even inresponse to your question, he
says ask me, please ask me.
If you're not hearing something, if you're not in a
conversation, ask me, so thatthe answer that I give to you
will be the grace that'ssufficient for you not just to
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be saved, but to be raised upand then to be seated in
heavenly places.
That is called rest, not to beraised up and get your armor on
and go have a swipe at some.
You know, I saw a new year postwhere somebody had put up the
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picture of Jesus with thedisciples in the garden and the
soldier comes and Peter goes,you know, and chops his ear off.
And so this was their new yearpost.
They said Happy New Year.
And.
But you see, the reason whythat stood out to me is because
Jesus said if my kingdom was ofthis world then we would fight.
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But it's not.
Our kingdom is a kingdom ofgrace, you see, and he has left
nothing undone.
There is a all sufficiency ofprovision in terms of wisdom and
supply, and the timeliness ofwords and season.
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And you know, and may the graceof our Lord, jesus Christ, may
the fullness of it be seen andunderstood as being wholly
available to you, and the loveof God, our Father, and the
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fellowship of the Holy Spirit.
You see, this is the one whohas been, has been assigned to
walk with us.
You see, this is a differentexpression of grace Says that he
will lead you into all things Ilove, being saved, but all that
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has done, you see,fundamentally, it's opened the
door into the real world.
And what did Derek Prince say?
He said I have just come intothis revelation of the Father's
love and up until now I had nounderstanding of it.
I spoke three times on this onthe Father, heart of God and the
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love of the Father.
He said, but I had nounderstanding, no revelation of
it.
He said and I believe that thechurch has camped around the
door for so long there is much,much, much, much more.
But there's much, much more isactually in him.
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It's in him.
You know, I used to.
This may sound ridiculous, butI remember the inheritance of
the Levite, and your inheritanceshall be the Lord himself.
And I thought, oh rats, wedidn't get any land, we didn't
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get any houses.
Your inheritance will be theLord himself.
You know.
Hallelujah, praise the Lord.
But you see, everything is heldtogether in him.
It's the fullness of the gifthe's not, having not withheld
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his son.
How much more will he not Giveto us?
All things he's already freelygiven to us, the most valuable
thing that he has to offer.
Everything else is reallychocolate bun, everything else
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is just stuff.
I've given you the best of thebest of the best, and there's
more.
You see, faith is the only thingthat can take us through that
door, to apply that initialgrace so that we actually move
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into the next grace.
Oh, father, raise me up.
See, there is.
There will come a time, and Iremember we used to pray this
and quote it to each other.
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You know, a rise, shine, foryour light has come, and the
glory of the Lord has risen uponyou.
You know what that is, don'tyou?
It's the experiencing of thenext grace.
This is not about salvation.
It is his rise.
Shine, for your light has comeand the glory of the Lord has
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risen upon you.
You see, everything is becomingpersonal, because that's the
nature of love.
It's not just a warm fuzzy inthe room.
You know, even Peter Jacksonwill tell you that there were
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individual manifestations allaround the room, some of them
really quite different from theother, but everybody was
encountering him personally andthey went away knowing that he
had touched me.
They maybe they didn't evenremember the messages or
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something about, oh, something,and some of the story.
They remember real, a slitheror a little piece or a part of
the story, but the thing that'sindelibly etched in them, you
see, is that is that he cameface to face and touched them.
So may this grace continue toupset your apple carton.
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It's a necessary part of it.
You see, peter is having torealize that everything he
thinks he knows, he doesn't know.
All I know is I just had thisthing just explode inside of me.
You are the Christ, you are theson of the living God.
And Jesus says there it is.
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See, today, if you hear myvoice and harden not your heart,
don't go back to the groove,don't go back to the oh, let's
run it through the seven.
You know seven principles, orthe four keys, or the three
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wisdoms of whatever that is.
You know the simplicity of thechild is today, if you hear my
voice and harden not your heart,you don't have to incrementally
, little by little and piece bypiece, get free.
You can be free today.
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Now I know that the children ofIsrael take 40 years.
They take 40 years of what wasan 11-day journey.
But faith exercises like this.
You see, jesus says you seethis temple, you can raise it to
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the ground and I will rebuildit in three days.
And he's talking about himselfin reference to the new temple.
And somebody says in fact,that's what it says in my Bible.
Somebody says do you know howlong it took to build this
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temple?
46 years.
And I just burst out laughingwhen I had this little
conversation and I heard that.
And I burst out laughingbecause at that stage I had been
a Christian and been inministry for 46 years, and Jesus
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says three days, and when hesays it they are three days that
are yet to come, because in ourcontext they are three days
that have already been.
You see, and you know how youaccess those three days by faith
.
I believe that it's enough andthere's a grace that will raise
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you up, is a grace that willseat you, just like Jesus is
seated the right hand of theFather.
He's restored to the bosom ofthe Father and he rules from
there and everything he does isfrom that place.
And that's where we're invitedto come.
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We're not just navigating ourway at the foot of the cross.
You do understand that nobodylives there at the foot of the
cross, and the reason why theydon't live there is because it's
a rubbish dump.
It's an unclean place outsideof the city.
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Nobody lives there.
You just take your junk andyour crap and you and you dump
it and you leave it behind.
We all know that place becauseit's where we went to die, but
in him we live and move and haveour being not at the cross.
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I've lived in that default loopfor a long time.
But you see, the grace forsalvation is finished.
It is finished, it is done.
Now move on to the next grace.
That's going to take you to adifferent place in me, totally
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different place.
I will raise you now.
If you got all those propheticwords, if you got all those
things, those promises, thosethings that you believe that he
said to you over a long periodof time, seems so far the head
they are, how are you going todo that's with me, because I'm
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all done, I'm all out of trying.
In the same way that you cameto Ronto, to to Toronto, and
poured out your spirit, Ibelieve you're going to do the
same thing again.
But there is something thatyou've prepared in advance for
us every spiritual gift that'snecessary for you, every
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preparation I've already done inadvance and it's waiting for
you.
It's just that it's going totake a faith and a grace to, and
he is that grace, and so that'swhy all of it is processed in
our heart.
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If any man thinks that he canfigure out how I've got, I've
got it now.
Yes.
If any man thinks that he knowsanything, he does not yet know
how he ought to know, becausethe knowing that he's talking
about isn't the process of beingtaught or told or reminded or
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repeated or disciplined ortrained.
That's not.
That's not.
The knowing that's talkingabout this is on this rock, this
rock of revelation.
Revelation is not a mystical,mysterious, weird, weak, you
know, smoky thing.
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According to the word of God,according to what Jesus said,
revelation is a rock and you canbuild on.
So today, if you hear his voice, regardless of whether he's
reminding you of something thathe promised a long time ago, say
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yes, lord, because the promisesof God are all yay and amen,
simply because you see, in himthere's a grace for us to enter
into it.
It doesn't look like Galatiangrace.
I'm good, now I've got over thecross bit, I've got over the
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dying bit.
Now I've got it.
Sars, you see, that's.
That's the other thief, this thesecond thief, or maybe he's the
first thing.
I don't know what order theycome in.
You know, maybe he's the firstthing, but he says when you
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enter into your kingdom,remember me.
And Jesus says today, whetherthat man understands it or not,
he has just accessed gracenumber one and that grace number
number one is going to take himstraight to grace number two,
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and I don't know if you noticethat there is no timeframe
between those two things.
But he is going to be risen upin about two hours.
Not bad for a thief.
No Sunday school, no Bibleclass, no baptism, no I there's.
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No, the words there don't say.
And he humbled himself and gavehis heart to Jesus and he said
the sinners prayer and he criedout to the soldiers.
Doesn't say any of that.
See, part of what I've imbibein my teaching is that I've I've
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learned all these other things,and what his father's having to
take me through is.
He's so frank.
Who told you that?
Who told you that?
And I know you.
You may have been holding on toit for a long while.
You know you.
It may have been, you know, Ithink it's in Matthew 6.
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It says Florida has been saidamongst you.
You know that that this is, thisis the way to do things he said
, but I tell you that's not whatI said, and so.
But it's constantly thisreference, you see, to the fact
that we have accumulated bitsand pieces from all these
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different places because theysound good, they sound right.
The problem is, you see, whenyou encounter with this primal
scream, is that it all soundsright but there's no life in it.
I have tried and tried andtried to practice those things,
but freedom has never and Ihaven't prevailed and I haven't.
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So we do this most ungodlything we give up.
What a wonderful beginning wesurrender to him.
If any man thinks that thinkingis the way to know me, he does
not yet know that revelation isthe rock that builds, and it
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builds here.
Truck driver, 20 odd years,newly married, brand new baby,
after 10 minutes of sitting inthis revelation, stands up and
says to everybody in the class Ijust realized something, I am
free.
And he shouts it out loud andtears run down his face.
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And you know, it would be agreat disservice for me to
provide him with everytheological hurdle that he
hasn't jumped yet and line themup in front of him.
Today.
Same thing applies to us.
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If you hear my voice and harden,not your heart, father, come
speak into my circumstance, myfamily, my marriage, my home, my
finances.
Come and speak into me, into.
Is my faith really faith, or isit just an idea?
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Is it just a way of thinkingthat I've assumed as a gift of
faith from you?
So that's what's been rattlingmy cage just lately.
I thought surely I haveunlearned all those other things
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.
Surely I'm now getting onto thegood side of the ledger, and he
just reminded me it's not aledger, it's childlikeness of
our hearts that say you know,really, I don't know.
I think I know, but I don'tknow.
So even what I think I know.
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Father, can you speak here?
Can you reveal to my heartthat's what we discovered in the
centrality of the heart, thatthat's where all of this takes
place?
I don't even have to convincemyself.
Come on, frank, you can dobetter.
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Yeah, I've done better, andit's really.
It's put me in the in thecustard more times than not.
So May the grace of our LordJesus Christ it says.
This grace is so absolutelyamazing.
You know what verse seven saysthat you will not begin to
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understand it.
It will begin to reveal itselfto you and the significance of
it in the age to come.
Actually, it's his ages.
So May the grace of our LordJesus Christ, and the love of
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God, our Father, and thefellowship of the Holy Spirit,
the one who is assigned to gowith us, who will lead us into
all things, ask him.
Ask him if you haven't heardthe Father speak to you lately,
annoy him.
You know, you ever see littlekids do that.
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They go up and say Papa, papa,papa, Papa, or they grab your
finger and they, you know, papa,papa, papa, papa, papa.
But they keep going till theyget an answer.
Keep it simple and let love comeand visit you in as many
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different ways as you ask him to.
My daughter is falling in loveand it's absolutely wonderful to
watch and she inspires me to.
You know, dan, just chill out.
You know, have a cup of tea,sit down.
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You know, start day, don't tryand figure it all out, just let
love love you.
There was a grace.
That's sufficient, and it's notjust a salvation, it's much,
much more so.
Ephesians two versus one to 10.
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You know so.
So I think that's that's me.
But I just wanted to say thatpart of the reason why we're
looking at coming to Canada isbecause my wife's born in the US
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and I have my great grandfatheras Canadian, and he came from
England, settled in.
My great great grandfather camefrom England, settled in
Ontario, in a place, a towncalled Flesherton.
His surname is Flesher and sohe was the mayor of the city and
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so his.
He has three sons, and one ofthem came to New Zealand and
married my great grandmother.
So there's a little bit ofCanadian me, you know, if you
prick me over here and maplesyrup comes out, so it's a sure
sign.
So look forward to seeing youhopefully in the future.
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And, yes, may this graceenlarge, increase and extend and
and let it take you into newplaces and Bless you.
Oh no, it's been good just seeing some faces on
there.
It's been really wonderfulseeing Arlene and Lutz.
When we first came, you werethe guys that were part of the
team.
You could just see someislanders there, erin, and where
are you?
Yep, there you are and let'ssee.
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Oh, I see I'm on the wrong page, that's why.
No, it's just good to see somefamiliar faces.
And it was Mary Ann.
That's there she is.
She's turned away.
You know, she's turned thecamera off.
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There she is, hey, mary Ann.
Mary Ann and I used to go toschool together.
It was the INS, but you knowit's still.
We went to school together.
In fact, I think that's probablywhat my journey in this whole
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revelation has been.
It's been about going to schoolagain.
There's a wonderful passage inthat.
I didn't really think was thatwonderful when I first read it,
but it's in 1 Corinthians 8.
It says if any man thinks heknows, let him understand this,
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that he does not yet know as heought to know.
And I just thought oh, I knowit's in there, I know it's part
of the whole book, but it's justthat you know.
For a long time when I read it,it didn't apply to me, because
it was just one of those otherverses, until you come into this
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revelation, you see, and thenit wholly applies to me.
So this has been it's reallybeen a journey of not just
learning but unlearning.
And so, after 30 years in youth, with a mission and you know,
and being a youth pastor beforethat and doing a number of other
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things, you have a groove, youhave a way of seeing and doing,
and so I realized that I'm stillin that process of learning.
They're father, you're still.
You're still fathering me insome places where I didn't even
know I need fathering.
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One of my favorite passages ofscripture it's, it's, it's
really just a question, and itcomes out of Genesis three and
it says in Genesis three, verse11, it's where it is.
So who told you?
Who told you?
And I realized that I'm I'mabsolutely filled up with so
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much stuff that I've been toldby this one and that one, by by
reading, by hearing messages, bybeing in schools and seminars
and conferences, and so thequestion really was who told you
?
And of course, the second partof it was have you eaten from
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the tree?
I told you not to eat from, andso that's where all the the
unlearning has come, I realizedthat I've gorgeous myself on
from another tree, and theunfortunate thing is that it's
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it has a wealth of fruit for youto partake of, but the fruit
has this it has this taste, ithas this phenomenon and that
once you've eaten from it, itwill begin to divide.
It creates two things.
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It creates an alternative, youknow.
So you begin to see everythingin terms of light and dark, or
good and bad, or right and wrong, or in and out, or up and down,
and you realize that this wholerevelation of the love of the
Father actually is to, is tobring us back to the original
tree, the tree of life that thenmarries everything together
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again, because in that tree, yousee, in him, where everything
is held together in the sun,there is no Jew or Greek, there
is no slave or free, there is nomale or female, see, but
they're all one.
And so that's what I've beendiscovering is really my, my
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journey of learning that thingsthat have been split or divided
or separated in me by way of myunderstanding and learning and
accumulation of stuff over many,many years has caused me to
have split perspectives andideas of who, even who, god is,
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and so in the journey he's beenmarrying me, he's been marrying
me back together again, and soit's.
It's like that passage, you see, that says no longer will your
land be unmarried, no longerwill it be barren, no longer
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will it be separated or divorced, but I will call you chosen and
beloved, and and so wholenessis when he comes and he takes
the split or the divided thingsin you and marries them back to
oneness.
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So so the reason I wanted tostart with that is because just
recently, something I had never,ever considered was we were
doing an A school in Melbournejust recently and and I had
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become used to over the last 10years, having a, you know,
sometimes, in fact, the schoolwe went to in Canada, probably,
the age range was probably 50,50, half of the half of the
school were 50, 60, 70 and theother half would have been 30,
40, some 20 year olds.
But that was, that was a splitbutton, but not necessarily the,
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the generation of responsetowards this particular
revelation that most of themwere older and age, older and
ministry life, older andgenerational history, older and
perspective.
And so, because I'd beeninvolved in youth with the
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mission, I thought I'm well, I'm, I'm fairly.
You know you get like thosepeople you hang around with.
So I still heard on the side ofI'm still younger, even though
I'm a year old.
And so we were with the schoolin Melbourne and the very first
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day.
You know we are, we have a coretopics and and so I'm heading
deliberately, intentionally,towards teaching on and speaking
into heart forgiveness, but asI stood up that morning, first
morning of this particularschool, it just wasn't there in
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the classroom.
I was desperately searching forit because that's that's the
groove for the school, but itwasn't there.
And but as I looked around theroom, probably two thirds to
three quarters of the room were30 or less and totally focused,
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totally there.
But the other thing that wasthere in the room was pain, hurt
, suffering, and you couldalmost hear, you could almost
feel in the room just thetangible nature of.
We don't want to hear any moreverses or teaching or
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instruction.
What we want to know is wheredo we take this stuff, where
does it go?
We don't want to heardescriptions of verses or
stories about somebody.
We just want to know is I havepain, where do I take it?
Because as a generation, yousee that same pain, that same
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stress, that same anxiety forthem as a generation, has
resulted in the culmination oflife.
So for them it's a very realquestion, you see.
And so, first session, we'rehaving this little conversation.
So what's what's happening inyour hearts?
And I just said so, we're goingto have some of the team come
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and just stand at the front hereIf you want to come forward.
We haven't taught anything.
All we've done is anintroduction the night before.
Would you like to come?
And more than half the schoolliterally runs to the front.
You know, we've heard aboutthis, We've heard about this
love of the Father, we've heardabout this comfort.
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That's what we came for.
And they just ran to the front.
After that we had a break,taught the first session and at
the end of the session saidagain if there's anything that
Father is stirring and you have,the Spirit is stirring in your
heart and you want to comeforward, the team are going to
be here Again, more than half ofthe school literally run to the
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front.
We had soaking in the afternoonand then we had another session
at night, and the same thing.
If there's anybody and you have, because you can just feel it
in the room, you know, would you, if you want to come forward,
please come.
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And so two things that I noticed.
One was that the ladies in theteam were the primary target.
The rest of us guys, we mayhave had one or two people, and
but the mothers were just, they,just they literally ran to them
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and they were in tears beforethey even got there.
One girl really stood out to me.
I know her family.
They've been in ministry forprobably more than 20 years and
so this is their, this is theirdaughter.
She came, she's now married,has a couple of children, but
when she, when she came andwrapped her arms around this one
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of the ladies in the team, itwas almost like a primal screen.
This thing just came out of herand it felt to me like a
generational crime and it wasalmost as though there it is,
there it is.
That's that I've been lookingfor, that, you see, I just I've.
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I've heard about the keys andthe principles and the truths
and the ABC and the five stepsshe said, but nobody has taken
me to to meet, to encounter, toembrace the love of the father.
And so, you know, as a team, wewere really were quite taken by
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surprise.
Here we have three times thatwe've had responses in the first
day and we haven't got to heartforgiveness here, which in
every other school you see, isthat's when you're beginning to
price things open.
And I realized that the schoolsbefore have, they have
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theological hurdles that youhave to, that you, you're aware
that you encounter because thesepeople are 4050, 6070 and
generationally see, they have anaccumulation, just like me, of
theological hurdles that youhave to undo and unlearn before
you can move ahead or move intoor embrace.
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And, to my surprise, the firstsoaking instruction that we had
was that afternoon on the firstday.
And again, we just go and ifyou have anything that you want
to share, you know from what'sFather saying to you.
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And this one guy stood up and hewas me.
He was me 40 years ago, he wasin his early 20s, he's a truck
driver, he's a Pacific Islander,he's not long married, he's
just had his first son, and thatthat was me 40 years ago.
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And one soaking session.
And at the end of it he juststood up and he just, with all
of the simplicity and naivetyand innocence of somebody who's
just begun the race, who's juststepped out onto the track, and
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he just, with this incredible,with big, bright, wide eyes, he
just said I just realizedsomething.
He said I just realized thatI'm free.
And I turned immediately to theguy that I was sitting next to
and I said to him man, it tookme 10 years to get to that and
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all of a sudden it's like this,it's this heart revelation.
You see, that I have aperspective that faith and the
application of it is incremental.
It's line by line, it's preceptupon precept, it's linear and
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it's logical, and so I amlooking, even in the course of
the school, to build this uponthis, upon this, because that's
how we understand it, you see.
And all of a sudden I realizedthat this is not just a
generational difference, it'sthat my understanding of faith
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is that faith, even when youapply it, is incremental.
You see, when I first learnedabout living by faith, it was we
have $10 faith, so then we canhave $100 faith and then $1,000
faith and then million dollarfaith, and that was the kind of
language.
But in that moment the thingthat occurred to me was the
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thief hanging on the cross nextto Jesus can't afford to have
incremental faith.
It's either all true or it'snot.
It's a reality or it isn't.
He doesn't have.
You see, there are two thingshanging there.
And the one thief says well,it's all circumstantial, if you
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can just fix the circumstances,then I'm good to go.
If you can just get me downfrom here, I got the rest.
I can take care of the rest.
I know how to do that.
But the other thief says to himin very in layman's terms, he
says shut up, you have no ideawho it is that you're speaking
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to.
We're here because we deserveto be here.
He is not.
You don't know who he is.
And he has this conversationwith Jesus.
He said, and he says Jesus,would you remember me when you
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come into your kingdom?
Would you remember me?
And some translations say thisand it's that.
And it says, it's just a shortfew words.
It says in Jesus turned hishead.
You have to remember thecontext of him turning his head
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is after he's been beaten, afterhe's been crucified, after he's
been whipped and spat on andhumiliated, after he's been
stripped naked, after he'sendured all of these things,
after a bare raw flesh has beenlaid down on roughsorn timber.
You know, as I 53 says, that hedidn't even look like human
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flesh.
It looked like a carcasshanging on a stick and I am
struck by this.
Jesus turns his head, but heturns his head because this man
is expressing the true nature offaith.
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When you come into your kingdom,remember me, this 23 year old
truck driver stands up on dayone.
He's, he's been in, in, in thisrevelation, if you want to say
that way for 10 minutes and outof his mouth comes, just
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realized I'm free and I justthought, hey, I know this is not
a sprint, but I'm fairly surethat there are some hurdles in
the race and I don't see youjumping over them.
How come you just go like that?
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And and I really felt like afather was challenging me he
says you know, frank, your, evenyour concept of faith is that
it's learned, that it'sincremental, that it's step by
step.
But he said you're not hearingwhat I'm saying.
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You can see, because for a longtime this word has applied to us
, and that is today.
If you hear my voice and how to, not your heart.
You see it's, it's immediate.
He says it's, it's according toyour faith, your heart's belief
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in who I am and who you'reseeing and who is.
You know this girl who comesand just wraps her arms around
one of the teams, there is aprimal scream and she said this
this is it, and she lets it allgo.
I don't know how many yearsshe's been carrying that, but
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you see, there's a, there's ahunger out there and it's not
just generational, it has to dowith.
It's a revelation in terms ofeven understanding and seeing
that the reason why thisrevelation is revelation is
because it can be instantaneous.
It's the nature of faith Today.
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If you hear my voice and do thisone thing, don't stop it from
doing what it can do.
Don't run it through the mill,don't run it through the
processor, don't run it throughthe oh, what about that?
And what about that?
Don't run it through the cellphone.
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So and I realize that that'swhat it's he those are all my
hurdles, but they're minebecause it's part of the
landscape of my generation.
We've learned how to evenexercise our faith that way.
But the father is saying unlessyou come, like a little boy, you
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see, without all the hurdles,without all the hindrances,
without all the yes, but whatabout?
It has not entered into thehearts of the minds of men the
things that God has in store.
God is not fathering us have awonderful conversation with my
daughter this morning and wewere talking about.
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She said Dad, I feel likethere's two people inside of me.
One of them is trying to sortthings out and understand and
get the answer and the solutionand cross the T's and dot the
I's, and the other one is justabsolutely falling in love.
But because I've never knownthis one who's falling in love,
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I keep defaulting and deferringback to sorting things out.
So then then I can fullyimmerse myself into the love.
And I said to her what I'veheard one of my friends say, and
that is it.
All depends on whether you wantto be fixed or whether you want
to be loved, because the natureof love, it, covers a multitude
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of sins.
It is the sufficient solution.
It's why the primal scream isnot looking for an explanation,
it's looking to meet him face toface.
We don't care about theexplanation, let the explanation
come.
We just want to see him andtouch him and have him touch us.
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And I have to tell you that, ofall the schools that I've been
involved with, this school wasthe hardest Because it went
somewhere that required of me tostop thinking in terms of
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sequence and order.
And you know it's justsomething there.
You see that it has to be.
Isn't it supposed to be?
Line upon line and precept uponprecept?
Isn't that the way it'ssupposed to be?
And that's the nature of theteaching and the instruction and
the growing.
And that may be happening to usin spirit, but in spirit, you
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see, it's an immediate thing.
We are being translated into adifferent kingdom where the
ground rules are not the same.
The love that, when my daughterwas talking to me about this
love, she just said, dad, I,just I was overwhelmed.
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It's as though Jesus came to meand he was loving me with such
a pure love I, just I had, therewas no resistance, there wasn't
anything in me that was askingfor well, what's?
What verse goes with that?
Can you tell me?
Can you explain ABC?
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It's just, when love came, itjust, everything else just faded
away.
And I said to her you know,it's not that God is wanting to
make light of your journey orthe issues or the struggle, it's
just that love covers and itdoesn't mean that it sweeps it
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under the rug.
That's not what love does.
Love hovers, restores, givesback fills, wraps itself around,
it holds you while the old isfading away, while it is, it's
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released in this primal screamand sometimes they're just
aren't words.
You see, it's not.
We're not asking people toexplain.
There was a time in you,through the mission, when we
would do that.
We called it openness andbrokenness, where the emphasis
was on your turn.
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Stand at the front and go.
This is me, this is my list,this is my stuff.
But more and more you see whatI'm.
What I'm seeing is that the loveof God is coming and
confronting our lists, whetherwe have one or not, whether it's
that long or whether it's thatlong, isn't the point?
It's, when love comes, it'sbreaking all of the other rules
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because it's not coming even.
By the same way, it's notcoming to explain.
It's the reason why you can'tteach people into the revelation
of the Father's love.
And that, for me, has been ahard thing to learn because, as
Brandt said in the beginning, Ihave been teaching this for 25
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years.
I've been explaining it topeople for 25 years.
I've been trying to find adiagram or a sequence or an
order or a formula or aprinciple or a process that will
lead them there, that will helpto take them there.
But you know, when I get thetestimonies from different
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people around the world, whatwas it that changed them?
And nine times out of 10, youknow, it's well.
I can't remember what youtaught that week, but I remember
when you held me and I justthink well, so what was all the
rest?
All the rest is really just.
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It's me and my journey.
And don't you know, I'm notthrowing the baby out with the
bathwater, but in desperation,what this world is looking for
is show me the money, show methis love, please, please.
If you have to explain it ordraw a diagram or something like
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that, if you have to take methrough, if you have to jump
over all these things, ifthere's, then I'm not sure that
that's what I'm looking for, butyou see, but they are grasping
it.
The second day we have soakingagain and you know, here's this
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young girl, asian, australianand she stands up.
She said oh, I am.
I just.
I just was having aconversation as I was soaking.
I was just talking with thefather and I said to him oh, I
would love to see the universefrom your eyes.
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What, what, what is that allabout?
And he said to her Come on,then let's go.
And she said, oh, but doesn'tthat happen after I die?
Because, you see, that's whatshe's understood as the process?
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And and he said to her oh,what's wrong with now?
And again she stands up andshares this with the classroom.
And I turn to my friend andthis time he says to me Well, if
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that's what you're getting inyour first soaking time, she
gets to.
You know, look at the universewith the father.
You see, I remember when wefirst started having these times
, you know, I got, I got a warmfeeling, I got a picture of a
palm tree.
You know, I got a verse, andnot even the whole verse, just
half of a verse.
She's encountering him andgetting having this really
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simple, childlike discussionabout oh, could we have a look
at the universe?
And and again, you see, I'mstruck by yeah, but, father,
what about the progressions,what about the sequence, what
about the order, what about theway that that I have come, like
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this?
And he said, yeah, no See,frank, this is not about you
teaching them the way that youcame.
Testimony is good, it is aboutyour story.
But you see, what they'recoming for is this incredible
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reality of encountering andmeeting him face to face.
The woman at the well has noidea who she's talking to until
he says boo.
But after that everythingchanges.
And if the eyes of your heartare open, you see, then, like
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I'm encountering with theseyoung people, then today, in
this moment, and today, is thisreoccurring.
Now, today, if you hear myvoice, the sense that I had of
it was then hold me to it.
If you hear me say it, hold meto it, ask me again, so you know
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, I was sure that you said thisthen hold me to it.
And and and.
These guys are just, see,they're dumb enough, they're
silly enough, they're naiveenough, they're innocent enough
to take him at his word.
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I have to, you know, do a coupleof laps around the Old
Testament, run through theGospels two or three times, and
what about this, and what aboutthat, and what about the other
thing?
And I'm realizing, you see,that even my concept of faith is
just a concept.
God has accommodated me becausethat's how I've understood him,
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until I met somebody else whounderstands him a totally
different way.
See, there's this incrediblegift of grace, he says.
You know, and we're all savedby this grace, which is a gift
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given to us and not by works,lest any man should boast.
But I was asked to go speak inthe church in in Australia and
they said, oh, we're having asequence, you see.
And I thought, oh, yes, I knowthe sequence.
You know, our whole church isgoing through this book and then
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this chapter and that chapter,and so when you come, we're
going to be up to chapter twoand verses one to 10.
But if you want, you can speakyour own, do your own message.
And, of course, everythinginside of me is oh well, yeah,
this is easy because I know thisand I know what I think they
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should know.
And so this is what I know.
Well, I felt like the Fathersaid to me do Ephesians two?
So I had a quick read throughbefore I said yes to the pastor.
And you know verse eight.
Oh, there it is.
You know by grace.
So you say through faith andnot of yourselves.
That is the gift of God.
And I just thought, yes, I knowwhat I'm going to say.
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The night before I said well, sofar, there is anything that you
, this, in particular in thisand these verses that you want
to say.
And he said yes, and I said sowhat is it about verse eight
that you want to say.
And he said it's not verseeight, I want to.
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I want to talk about verseseven.
So you just see I can get thisand I just want to read it to
you.
So here we go, ephesians 2.
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And verse 7 says sorry.
Verse 8 says For by grace youhave been saved through faith,
and that not of yourselves, itis the gift of God, not of works
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list anyone should boast.
Verse 7 says that in the agesto come, he might show the
exceeding riches of his graceand his kindness toward us in
Christ Jesus.
And I said so in the ages tocome, he might show us the
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exceeding riches of his grace.
You mean verse 8.
And he said no, he said, if yougo back to verse 4, it says but
God, who is rich in mercy,because of his great love, with
which he loved us even when wewere dead in trespasses, made us
alive together with Christ.
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By grace you have been savedand raised us up together and
made us sit together in theheavenly places in Christ Jesus.
And he said, frank, two things.
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One is that there is more thanone expression of grace.
There is what we call a savinggrace.
There is a grace that has beenthe gift of God and Christ Jesus
, who is this wonderful gift ofgrace to us and that has led us
to salvation.
But he said there is more grace.
He said there is a grace thatraises you up.
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And then there is another gracethat seats you in heavenly
places.
And the nature of these gracesis that they are not of yourself
, lest any man should boast youknow, having got in, it's okay,
I can take it from here.
You see, having got me downfrom across, having now that I'm
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not going to die forever andever, I can take it from here.
I've got it, you know.
You see, there's a grace thatwill raise you up, there is a
grace that will seat you inheavenly places.
But you get there the same way,not of yourself.
And all of a sudden I realized Ireally don't understand this
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grace of verse eight at all,because I thought it was the
grace.
You know, it's kind of, and youjust you stretch it to cover
everything he says.
He said no, this is thebeginning, this is so that you
will know how to partake of andhow to walk in and how to live
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in and how to receive and how todive into this grace, which
doesn't come from you workingharder.
Having got saved, you don't nowhave to finish it off.
You know, it's the and that'sthe whole message to the
Galatians.
You see, all foolish Galatians,having begun in the spirit,
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will you now complete it all inthe flesh?
It was such a wonderfulconversation with my daughter.
Oh, dad, I, just when, when hecame, and it was, it was like
love, just I had no defense.
He was so beautiful, he was sogentle and tender and kind and
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sweet and loving, and there wasjust nothing in me wanted to
resist or hold back, and Ialmost had.
I it's as though I had norecollection of the past.
This love covered all of thatand much, much, much, much more.
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See, we had a little bit of aside conversation about warfare,
you see, and we realized thatin our conversation.
We realized that if love ischanging the nature of how we
understand faith, it's alsochanging the nature of how we
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understand warfare.
You see, we're not quickly puton some armor, grab a sword and
let's go.
You know, hack and slash.
You see, there is a grace,there is a provision, there is a
, there is an, an allsufficiency in this grace that
not only has has redeemed you,has taken you from death to life
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.
This love, this grace, thismercy, this completeness, this
wholeness will actually raiseyou up.
It will teach you how to stand,it will take you to that place
of being capable.
As I say, I think it's anEphesians 3.
It says every spiritual gift isprepared for us.
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You see, it's made ready for usto walk into.
It's already there.
We just haven't known the graceto appropriate it, but it's
there.
And so I go to a school inMelbourne and here's a kid who
he doesn't even read his Biblethat much.
His idea of quiet time with Godis having a beer with him.
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That's literally his idea ofrelationship with God.
So totally unreligious, totallyunredeemed, totally not
churched, totally.
There are no hurdles there.
He's just, very simply, I'mjust a, I'm just a fisherman.
You know, I don't know any ofthese things.
You know.
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In fact, the only way I'm goingto know is if the father
himself comes and reveals it tomy heart.
Then when I see it and when Ireceive it, I'm going to say yes
, and the barrenness and thedryness and the thirst of not
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having found that, of not havingseen that or experienced.
That is going to be like aprimal scream oh, let this old
stuff get this old clothing offof me.
I've sat under it, I've beenunder it for so long.
I just need to meet him face toface.
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But when he comes, you see,there is a grace that takes us
from death to life.
And then there is another gracethat will raise you up.
Sonship isn't, but I'm, youknow I'm, I'm doing the best
that I can do.
The sunship is this revelationbeing poured into us and him,
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when love comes.
And it covers that multitude ofthings from the past to see
sort of sees in Romans.
If sin can come into the worldby one man, then righteousness
can come by one man as well.
So let the one cancel out theother.
You see, it all depends on ifyou want to be fixed or if you
want to be loved, and love doesso much more than supersede.
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In fact, there is a grace thathas been provided for us.
It's been there in Ephesianstwo all this time, but I've just
been, you know the verse eight.
There it is.
That's the bit that I've heard,that's the bit that I quote,
that's the bit that I remember.
The only problem is is that ithas made very limited and narrow
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the grace that I've even knownthat I could walk into, I could
receive, I could partake on.
You see, it's not by our ownworks, but it's a grace, it's a
gift, and it's not just a giftthat saves you from death to
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life and now you're on your ownkid.
This grace will raise you up.
This is, this, is that.
It's that silhouetted picture,you see, of the father walking
with the little boy or thelittle girl and holding hands.
He said come on, I'll show you,I'll show you how I can, I'll
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take you there.
I've been really enjoying the,the benediction or the doxology
there, you know, and becauseit's so, I realized that there's
so much more to it.
It's summarized for us, butit's, but it's for me, it's.
It's been summarized and I'vejust used it as a, as a
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throwaway quote.
But it's this, you see, madethe grace of our Lord Jesus
Christ.
And all of a sudden now, afterreading Ephesians 2, grace has
much, much, much, much, much,much, much more.
You see, there are things thathave been prepared in advance,
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because that's the nature ofsonship, discipleship is you are
having to accumulate andacquire, and line upon line and
precipitate upon, precipitateand and step by step and
incrementally, and linear andlogically.
But you see, that's not thenature of faith, because this
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grace is affordable to you nowand now and now and today, and
today and today.
If you hear my voice and if youdon't refer back to the last
preacher who said this, that maysound really lovely, and don't
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get me wrong, this is not aboutpreachers.
But you see, man shall not liveby bread alone.
We shall live by every wordthat proceeds out of the mouth
of God.
So today, if you hear him speak, hold him to his word.
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If you hear him speak, even inresponse to your question, he
says ask me, please ask me.
If you're not hearing something, if you're not in a
conversation, ask me, so thatthe answer that I give to you
will be the grace that'ssufficient for you not just to
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be saved, but to be raised upand then to be seated in
heavenly places.
That is called rest, not to beraised up and get your armor on
and go have a swipe at some.
You know, I saw a new year postwhere somebody had put up the
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picture of Jesus with thedisciples in the garden and the
soldier comes and Peter goes,you know, and chops his ear off.
And so this was their new yearpost.
They said Happy New Year.
And.
But you see, the reason whythat stood out to me is because
Jesus said if my kingdom was ofthis world then we would fight.
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But it's not.
Our kingdom is a kingdom ofgrace, you see, and he has left
nothing undone.
There is a all sufficiency ofprovision in terms of wisdom and
supply, and the timeliness ofwords and season.
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And you know, and may the graceof our Lord, jesus Christ, may
the fullness of it be seen andunderstood as being wholly
available to you, and the loveof God, our Father, and the
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fellowship of the Holy Spirit.
You see, this is the one whohas been, has been assigned to
walk with us.
You see, this is a differentexpression of grace Says that he
will lead you into all things Ilove, being saved, but all that
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has done, you see,fundamentally, it's opened the
door into the real world.
And what did Derek Prince say?
He said I have just come intothis revelation of the Father's
love and up until now I had nounderstanding of it.
I spoke three times on this onthe Father, heart of God and the
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love of the Father.
He said, but I had nounderstanding, no revelation of
it.
He said and I believe that thechurch has camped around the
door for so long there is much,much, much, much more.
But there's much, much more isactually in him.
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It's in him.
You know, I used to.
This may sound ridiculous, butI remember the inheritance of
the Levite, and your inheritanceshall be the Lord himself.
And I thought, oh rats, wedidn't get any land, we didn't
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get any houses.
Your inheritance will be theLord himself.
You know.
Hallelujah, praise the Lord.
But you see, everything is heldtogether in him.
It's the fullness of the gifthe's not, having not withheld
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his son.
How much more will he not Giveto us?
All things he's already freelygiven to us, the most valuable
thing that he has to offer.
Everything else is reallychocolate bun, everything else
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is just stuff.
I've given you the best of thebest of the best, and there's
more.
You see, faith is the only thingthat can take us through that
door, to apply that initialgrace so that we actually move
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into the next grace.
Oh, father, raise me up.
See, there is.
There will come a time, and Iremember we used to pray this
and quote it to each other.
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You know, a rise, shine, foryour light has come, and the
glory of the Lord has risen uponyou.
You know what that is, don'tyou?
It's the experiencing of thenext grace.
This is not about salvation.
It is his rise.
Shine, for your light has comeand the glory of the Lord has
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risen upon you.
You see, everything is becomingpersonal, because that's the
nature of love.
It's not just a warm fuzzy inthe room.
You know, even Peter Jacksonwill tell you that there were
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individual manifestations allaround the room, some of them
really quite different from theother, but everybody was
encountering him personally andthey went away knowing that he
had touched me.
They maybe they didn't evenremember the messages or
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something about, oh, something,and some of the story.
They remember real, a slitheror a little piece or a part of
the story, but the thing that'sindelibly etched in them, you
see, is that is that he cameface to face and touched them.
So may this grace continue toupset your apple carton.
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It's a necessary part of it.
You see, peter is having torealize that everything he
thinks he knows, he doesn't know.
All I know is I just had thisthing just explode inside of me.
You are the Christ, you are theson of the living God.
And Jesus says there it is.
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See, today, if you hear myvoice and harden not your heart,
don't go back to the groove,don't go back to the oh, let's
run it through the seven.
You know seven principles, orthe four keys, or the three
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wisdoms of whatever that is.
You know the simplicity of thechild is today, if you hear my
voice and harden not your heart,you don't have to incrementally
, little by little and piece bypiece, get free.
You can be free today.
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Now I know that the children ofIsrael take 40 years.
They take 40 years of what wasan 11-day journey.
But faith exercises like this.
You see, jesus says you seethis temple, you can raise it to
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the ground and I will rebuildit in three days.
And he's talking about himselfin reference to the new temple.
And somebody says in fact,that's what it says in my Bible.
Somebody says do you know howlong it took to build this
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temple?
46 years.
And I just burst out laughingwhen I had this little
conversation and I heard that.
And I burst out laughingbecause at that stage I had been
a Christian and been inministry for 46 years, and Jesus
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says three days, and when hesays it they are three days that
are yet to come, because in ourcontext they are three days
that have already been.
You see, and you know how youaccess those three days by faith
.
I believe that it's enough andthere's a grace that will raise
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you up, is a grace that willseat you, just like Jesus is
seated the right hand of theFather.
He's restored to the bosom ofthe Father and he rules from
there and everything he does isfrom that place.
And that's where we're invitedto come.
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We're not just navigating ourway at the foot of the cross.
You do understand that nobodylives there at the foot of the
cross, and the reason why theydon't live there is because it's
a rubbish dump.
It's an unclean place outsideof the city.
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Nobody lives there.
You just take your junk andyour crap and you and you dump
it and you leave it behind.
We all know that place becauseit's where we went to die, but
in him we live and move and haveour being not at the cross.
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I've lived in that default loopfor a long time.
But you see, the grace forsalvation is finished.
It is finished, it is done.
Now move on to the next grace.
That's going to take you to adifferent place in me, totally
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different place.
I will raise you now.
If you got all those propheticwords, if you got all those
things, those promises, thosethings that you believe that he
said to you over a long periodof time, seems so far the head
they are, how are you going todo that's with me, because I'm
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all done, I'm all out of trying.
In the same way that you cameto Ronto, to to Toronto, and
poured out your spirit, Ibelieve you're going to do the
same thing again.
But there is something thatyou've prepared in advance for
us every spiritual gift that'snecessary for you, every
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preparation I've already done inadvance and it's waiting for
you.
It's just that it's going totake a faith and a grace to, and
he is that grace, and so that'swhy all of it is processed in
our heart.
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If any man thinks that he canfigure out how I've got, I've
got it now.
Yes.
If any man thinks that he knowsanything, he does not yet know
how he ought to know, becausethe knowing that he's talking
about isn't the process of beingtaught or told or reminded or
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repeated or disciplined ortrained.
That's not.
That's not.
The knowing that's talkingabout this is on this rock, this
rock of revelation.
Revelation is not a mystical,mysterious, weird, weak, you
know, smoky thing.
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According to the word of God,according to what Jesus said,
revelation is a rock and you canbuild on.
So today, if you hear his voice, regardless of whether he's
reminding you of something thathe promised a long time ago, say
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yes, lord, because the promisesof God are all yay and amen,
simply because you see, in himthere's a grace for us to enter
into it.
It doesn't look like Galatiangrace.
I'm good, now I've got over thecross bit, I've got over the
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dying bit.
Now I've got it.
Sars, you see, that's.
That's the other thief, this thesecond thief, or maybe he's the
first thing.
I don't know what order theycome in.
You know, maybe he's the firstthing, but he says when you
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enter into your kingdom,remember me.
And Jesus says today, whetherthat man understands it or not,
he has just accessed gracenumber one and that grace number
number one is going to take himstraight to grace number two,
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and I don't know if you noticethat there is no timeframe
between those two things.
But he is going to be risen upin about two hours.
Not bad for a thief.
No Sunday school, no Bibleclass, no baptism, no I there's.
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No, the words there don't say.
And he humbled himself and gavehis heart to Jesus and he said
the sinners prayer and he criedout to the soldiers.
Doesn't say any of that.
See, part of what I've imbibein my teaching is that I've I've
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learned all these other things,and what his father's having to
take me through is.
He's so frank.
Who told you that?
Who told you that?
And I know you.
You may have been holding on toit for a long while.
You know you.
It may have been, you know, Ithink it's in Matthew 6.
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It says Florida has been saidamongst you.
You know that that this is, thisis the way to do things he said
, but I tell you that's not whatI said, and so.
But it's constantly thisreference, you see, to the fact
that we have accumulated bitsand pieces from all these
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different places because theysound good, they sound right.
The problem is, you see, whenyou encounter with this primal
scream, is that it all soundsright but there's no life in it.
I have tried and tried andtried to practice those things,
but freedom has never and Ihaven't prevailed and I haven't.
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So we do this most ungodlything we give up.
What a wonderful beginning wesurrender to him.
If any man thinks that thinkingis the way to know me, he does
not yet know that revelation isthe rock that builds, and it
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builds here.
Truck driver, 20 odd years,newly married, brand new baby,
after 10 minutes of sitting inthis revelation, stands up and
says to everybody in the class Ijust realized something, I am
free.
And he shouts it out loud andtears run down his face.
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And you know, it would be agreat disservice for me to
provide him with everytheological hurdle that he
hasn't jumped yet and line themup in front of him.
Today.
Same thing applies to us.
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If you hear my voice and harden,not your heart, father, come
speak into my circumstance, myfamily, my marriage, my home, my
finances.
Come and speak into me, into.
Is my faith really faith, or isit just an idea?
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Is it just a way of thinkingthat I've assumed as a gift of
faith from you?
So that's what's been rattlingmy cage just lately.
I thought surely I haveunlearned all those other things
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.
Surely I'm now getting onto thegood side of the ledger, and he
just reminded me it's not aledger, it's childlikeness of
our hearts that say you know,really, I don't know.
I think I know, but I don'tknow.
So even what I think I know.
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Father, can you speak here?
Can you reveal to my heartthat's what we discovered in the
centrality of the heart, thatthat's where all of this takes
place?
I don't even have to convincemyself.
Come on, frank, you can dobetter.
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Yeah, I've done better, andit's really.
It's put me in the in thecustard more times than not.
So May the grace of our LordJesus Christ it says.
This grace is so absolutelyamazing.
You know what verse seven saysthat you will not begin to
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understand it.
It will begin to reveal itselfto you and the significance of
it in the age to come.
Actually, it's his ages.
So May the grace of our LordJesus Christ, and the love of
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God, our Father, and thefellowship of the Holy Spirit,
the one who is assigned to gowith us, who will lead us into
all things, ask him.
Ask him if you haven't heardthe Father speak to you lately,
annoy him.
You know, you ever see littlekids do that.
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They go up and say Papa, papa,papa, Papa, or they grab your
finger and they, you know, papa,papa, papa, papa, papa.
But they keep going till theyget an answer.
Keep it simple and let love comeand visit you in as many
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different ways as you ask him to.
My daughter is falling in loveand it's absolutely wonderful to
watch and she inspires me to.
You know, dan, just chill out.
You know, have a cup of tea,sit down.
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You know, start day, don't tryand figure it all out, just let
love love you.
There was a grace.
That's sufficient, and it's notjust a salvation, it's much,
much more so.
Ephesians two versus one to 10.
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You know so.
So I think that's that's me.
But I just wanted to say thatpart of the reason why we're
looking at coming to Canada isbecause my wife's born in the US
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and I have my great grandfatheras Canadian, and he came from
England, settled in.
My great great grandfather camefrom England, settled in
Ontario, in a place, a towncalled Flesherton.
His surname is Flesher and sohe was the mayor of the city and
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so his.
He has three sons, and one ofthem came to New Zealand and
married my great grandmother.
So there's a little bit ofCanadian me, you know, if you
prick me over here and maplesyrup comes out, so it's a sure
sign.
So look forward to seeing youhopefully in the future.
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And, yes, may this graceenlarge, increase and extend and
and let it take you into newplaces and Bless you.
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