Ep. 213: I Am JopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation

In this compelling episode, we sit down with I Am JopauL, a Staten Island-based host of the I Am Verified podcast and a passionate advocate for Israel. Known for his unfiltered and bold social media presence, JoepauL delves into the complex dynamics of the Israel-Palestine conflict, offering insights on current events, media bias, and the broader geopolitical implications. We explore his views on the spread of misinformation, the historical context behind today's headlines, and his unwavering support for Israel. Tune in for a deep dive into the intersections of social media advocacy, international politics, and the fight for truth in a world flooded with propaganda. Whether you're well-versed in Middle Eastern affairs or looking to broaden your understanding, this episode promises to challenge your perspectives and ignite thoughtful discussion.

Episode Transcript

Jason Louv: Hello, hello. How we doing? (01:18):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: Wonderful. Wonderful to meet you. (01:20):
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Jason Louv: Pleasure to meet you too. I'm Joe Paul. (01:22):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: Wonderful. Thank you for being on this podcast. (01:24):
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Jason Louv: Now, what's the audience of your viewers? Should I avoid cursing? (01:28):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: Please fucking curse as much as you want. (01:33):
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Jason Louv: I mean, I usually smoke weed all day long. (01:36):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: Please smoke weed as much as you want. Okay. (01:39):
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Jason Louv: Fair enough. Other than that, let's go. (01:41):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: Well, why don't we just kick it off then? then please introduce yourself and (01:43):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: tell us, tell the audience who you are. (01:47):
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Jason Louv: My name is Joe Paul. I'm a superstar extraordinaire. I'm a champion for Israel (01:49):
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Jason Louv: and the Jewish people. I love America. (01:54):
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Jason Louv: I love you guys. How's that? (01:56):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: That's perfect. That's perfect. Well, we love you. And, and since we set up (01:59):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: this, so I reached out to you on, on Instagram cause I love your videos. (02:04):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: They're very effective. They get, they get through. I love the fact that you (02:07):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: curse so much cause it gets people's attention. (02:11):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: God knows what's going on with the US election. F***ing A. (02:35):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: It's a it's a mess. (02:36):
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Jason Louv: That's a that's a sticky subject. But I like the way that you reported that (02:37):
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Jason Louv: accurately by saying the Golan Heights or northern Israel, (02:42):
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Jason Louv: because far too many times I hear people say the occupied territories or the (02:45):
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Jason Louv: Israeli occupied territory of the Golan Heights. (02:50):
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Jason Louv: And that is some fucking bullshit. And that needs to stop because that that (02:53):
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Jason Louv: further exacerbates the problem, giving people like sending a message to the (02:57):
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Jason Louv: world like Israel is operating on land that it's not supposed to be on. (03:02):
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Jason Louv: And it is very much supposed to be there if they knew what, you know, (03:05):
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Jason Louv: they want to talk about international humanitarian law, the law of armed combat. (03:09):
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Jason Louv: You know, it's not again, it's not a violation of the law to acquire territory (03:12):
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Jason Louv: through defensive strategic military conquest. (03:17):
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Jason Louv: So I wish people would stop saying the occupied territories because Syria is (03:21):
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Jason Louv: never getting the Golanites. (03:25):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, well, let's just dive. Let's just go straight for that. (03:26):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: Let's go straight for because you've you've run. (03:30):
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Jason Louv: And my heart goes out to the Druze community. That's what, you know, (03:33):
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Jason Louv: when people are reporting this and saying, (03:36):
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Jason Louv: you know, the Israeli occupied territory are calling the Druze, (03:37):
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Jason Louv: you know, Arabs and they're not Israelis or they're, you know, (03:41):
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Jason Louv: you know, orange card carrying Syrians when, you know, that's, that may be the case. (03:43):
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Jason Louv: But, you know, there was the Syrian civil war in 2011 and majority of Druze, (03:49):
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Jason Louv: you know, sought to obtain Israeli citizenship because of that. (03:53):
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Jason Louv: I believe 25% of them already are citizens and majority of them are on the pathway (03:56):
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Jason Louv: to to become Israeli citizens. (04:02):
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Jason Louv: And sure enough, the children, the Israeli Druze children that tragically died (04:04):
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Jason Louv: because of the Hezbollah attack, I'd have to assume that they were born inside Israel proper. (04:09):
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Jason Louv: And that gives them instant citizenship, if I'm not mistaken. (04:15):
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Jason Louv: But don't quote me on it. But, you know, but they were Israeli children and (04:18):
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Jason Louv: the whole world should definitely be outraged. (04:22):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: My understanding also is the Druze also have an insanely high education But (04:25):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: they also are extremely loyal to Israel and have a higher mandatory conscription (04:29):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: rate than the rest of the country. (04:33):
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Jason Louv: Well, they have a mandatory conscription rate or a voluntary conscription rate. (04:36):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: Excuse me, voluntary, voluntary. Yeah. Please check me if I get things wrong because, you know. (04:39):
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Jason Louv: Oh, no. Likewise. I mean, the thing that that people, you know, (04:43):
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Jason Louv: let's let's jump right into it. (04:46):
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Jason Louv: You know, the whole claim, the whole claim of apartheid. Let's go straight there. (04:48):
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Jason Louv: The definition of apartheid is a top down initiative, you know, (04:51):
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Jason Louv: that is installed by the governing body to basically forcefully persecute, (04:55):
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Jason Louv: segregate or disenfranchise a marginalized class already. (05:00):
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Jason Louv: And if anything, you can argue that the Arabs within Israel and the Druze within (05:04):
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Jason Louv: Israel actually have more rights than the Jewish Israeli citizens or the Christian (05:09):
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Jason Louv: Israeli citizens because they don't have a mandatory conscription that they (05:14):
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Jason Louv: have to, you know, serve in the IDF. (05:17):
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Jason Louv: And their service is completely voluntary. (05:19):
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Jason Louv: And we absolutely thank them for their service because the Jews, we love the Druze. (05:23):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: Okay so let's just go straight to (05:28):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: you know one of the things with this issue is you know (05:31):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: i feel two ways about about it in terms of people's perceptions one (05:34):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: is you always hear the line and people say it's complicated the middle east (05:37):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: is complicated which kind of suggests oh you shouldn't even look at it or think (05:40):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: about it well it's like it's really when you look at october 7th it ain't that (05:44):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: complicated you know all you have to do is look at what happened and ask yourself (05:47):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: what would you do and that's really all you need to see i think but the other (05:51):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: side is you You know, as it's really, (05:54):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: it's easy to get, this is an incredibly detailed issue, (05:57):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: let me put it that way, and it's easy for people who get, who are attached to (06:02):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: it to get very, very, you know, obsessive about it sometimes. (06:07):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: But, and then, so it's easy to forget that most people don't even have the slightest (06:11):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: understanding of it at all. So even when you talk about... (06:14):
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Jason Louv: Nor do they have the patience to comprehend the complexity of it. (06:18):
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Jason Louv: And what adds to the complexity of it, you know how you said, (06:21):
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Jason Louv: you know, it's not that complex. (06:23):
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Jason Louv: What makes it complex is the dissemination of misinformation and propaganda, (06:25):
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Jason Louv: which is used as a weapon of war. (06:30):
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Jason Louv: And people are not familiar with that tactic. (06:33):
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Jason Louv: They don't realize that that is, they believe what they see. (06:36):
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Jason Louv: I mean, it's hard to not believe your eyes when you see it, but, (06:40):
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Jason Louv: you know, there are some tremendous production value videos that are forcefully, (06:43):
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Jason Louv: you know, forcefully shoved in front of your eyes. (06:49):
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Jason Louv: We're talking about like, imagine making a propaganda video to demonize Israel (06:51):
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Jason Louv: and then taking Iran backed funds and promoting the video. (06:56):
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Jason Louv: Like imagine spending a million dollars on an Instagram on promoting an Instagram (07:01):
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Jason Louv: video or a tick tock video. (07:05):
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Jason Louv: And that's what is being done. And you know what? And the Jews, (07:07):
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Jason Louv: we haven't done anything like that. We don't care. (07:11):
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Jason Louv: It almost looks like we don't care about public perception. We just want to (07:13):
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Jason Louv: get the job done because we know deep in our hearts that we're humane and moral people. (07:16):
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Jason Louv: But the dissemination of this false rhetoric and this demonization of the Jews (07:20):
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Jason Louv: and Israel has taken such a toll on all of us that it's like we're putting out (07:26):
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Jason Louv: fake fires before we're actually getting a chance to fight the real one. (07:32):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: Yeah. Yeah, I mean, that must waste just so much energy that could be going to much better uses. (07:36):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: Well, let's go straight to the core of that and then disinformation then, (07:42):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: which would be the claims of illegal occupation. (07:44):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: And you mentioned land that was taken in 1967. I don't think people even understand (07:47):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: that that was a war or what happened there. (07:51):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: The most that people will say is, well, it goes back to 1948, (07:53):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: but they don't have a real sense of what happened in 1948 or certainly not before then. (07:57):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: Let's just go straight to that and address that, the claims of illegal illegal (08:02):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: occupation, if you're up for that. (08:05):
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Jason Louv: I'm always up for that. (08:08):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: Okay. (08:09):
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Jason Louv: So their claim of illegal occupation can take two turns when you're discussing (08:10):
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Jason Louv: it or debating it, or if you're objectively listening to somebody speak about it. (08:15):
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Jason Louv: One, they could always go with the Gaza and the West Bank, that those are illegally (08:19):
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Jason Louv: occupied and they've been under a 75-year occupation, (08:25):
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Jason Louv: and we'll decipher and distinguish between both of them. (08:29):
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Jason Louv: So let's start with Gaza. So Gaza, as well as Egypt, was under British control since 1882. (08:35):
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Jason Louv: So Egypt, because it owned Gaza, was technically under British Egyptian control. (08:43):
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Jason Louv: So the people that were in Gaza didn't really have the identity of Palestinians. (08:49):
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Jason Louv: That's why you hear them being called the Arabs of Palestine rather than Palestinians. (08:53):
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Jason Louv: Because back then, because of the Bible and the historic and biblical reference (08:59):
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Jason Louv: to the word Palestine, it was mostly associated with who? (09:03):
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Jason Louv: Jews. So the Arabs of Palestine didn't want to be considered Palestinians or (09:07):
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Jason Louv: take on that identity because of the affiliation with Jewish people and the (09:12):
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Jason Louv: Jewish religion and the biblical prominence, if you will. I think that's the word, if not, you know. (09:17):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: Go fuck yourself. So... (09:21):
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Jason Louv: Gaza was basically under Egyptian control up until 1967 when Israel declared its independence. (09:27):
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Jason Louv: Gaza, for lack of better words, was not under a military occupation because (09:38):
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Jason Louv: it was still establishing itself and its own borders and actually getting the (09:42):
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Jason Louv: ball rolling with actually people's settlements and government. (09:48):
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Jason Louv: I mean, a lot goes into establishing a nation, (09:51):
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Jason Louv: and the reason why the Palestinians never have actually went forward and got (09:55):
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Jason Louv: that two-state solution or their own nation is their lack of representation (10:00):
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Jason Louv: and their lack of organization. (10:05):
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Jason Louv: And I'm not saying that as a smite or as a diss to them. (10:08):
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Jason Louv: That's just the reality of it, because had they had better leaders with better (10:12):
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Jason Louv: organization skills and better leadership skills and took the actual steps of (10:17):
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Jason Louv: what is required through the UN General Assembly and through lobbying from other (10:22):
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Jason Louv: nations to sanction the vote to certify them as a state. (10:28):
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Jason Louv: If they would have went through that actual process like Israel did, (10:32):
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Jason Louv: we'd invest in a terror infrastructure rather than providing for its people. (10:35):
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Jason Louv: And I do feel for the Palestinian people because majority of Palestinians have Jewish heritage. (10:40):
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Jason Louv: I mean, I always say that the Palestinians are just... (10:47):
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Jason Louv: Basically, Romanized, Islamicized Jews that lost their way. (10:50):
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Jason Louv: Because back in the Levant, in the Jerusalem area, when the Romans came in the (10:56):
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Jason Louv: third century and changed the name from Judea, Samaria to Syria, (11:01):
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Jason Louv: to Syria, to Palestine, who do you think occupied those lands? (11:05):
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Jason Louv: You had Arabs. I mean, I wouldn't say Muslim because Islam wasn't founded until the seventh century. (11:08):
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Jason Louv: So we're still in the third century. So you had polytheistic tribes, (11:14):
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Jason Louv: you know, which, you know, prayed to many gods and different idols. (11:18):
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Jason Louv: You had Jewish people, which were the monotheistic, you know, people. (11:21):
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Jason Louv: You started to see the Christians actually, or Catholicism, Catholic, (11:25):
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Jason Louv: I don't even know how they would (11:31):
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Jason Louv: actually describe it, but that's when it really started to take form. (11:31):
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Jason Louv: But, you know, once the Romans came and conquered, it's like basically they (11:35):
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Jason Louv: it was their way or the highway. (11:39):
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Jason Louv: And it was a lot of conversions and forced conversions. (11:41):
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Jason Louv: So and then when Islam came, it (11:44):
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Jason Louv: was the same thing. And they ultimately colonized the entire Middle East. (11:47):
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Jason Louv: You know, so when they say that Israel is a colonial state, Israel is actually (11:51):
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Jason Louv: the the the best example of a decolonization project ever there was. (11:55):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: Yeah. Let's talk about that, because that's like, you know, the two. (12:01):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: The two things you hear people shrieking about are imperialism or white supremacy. (12:05):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: Neither of one is relevant in the slightest. (12:10):
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Jason Louv: No, it's relevant, but it's misguided. (12:12):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: Okay, okay. (12:17):
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Jason Louv: It's misguided because if you ask nine and a half out of ten people who are (12:18):
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Jason Louv: the Jews, they won't be able to answer you. (12:25):
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Jason Louv: Whether they're Jewish or not, they won't be able to answer you. (12:28):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: So (12:31):
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Jason Louv: It's kind of. (12:32):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: What's your answer for that well. (12:35):
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Jason Louv: Who are the Jews? I mean, that's a very. (12:38):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: Very deep question. (12:40):
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Jason Louv: The Jews are a remnant of an ancient civilization that has basically reestablished (12:41):
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Jason Louv: its presence within mainstream society and come together with a Zionistic practice (12:47):
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Jason Louv: of being able to migrate to our ancestral homeland to survive. (12:54):
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Jason Louv: That's that's basically it i mean and that was the most scientific definition (12:59):
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Jason Louv: i'm definitely going to like screenshot that because that was beautiful however (13:03):
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Jason Louv: i don't think i can repeat that as good as that was but for (13:06):
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Jason Louv: lack of better words the arabs of palestine don't know who the jews were and (13:10):
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Jason Louv: majority of the jews didn't know who they were i'd say 90 90 to 95 percent of (13:14):
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Jason Louv: the incoming jews from like 1880 to the early 1940s was completely secular zionism was not a religious (13:19):
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Jason Louv: movement at all or socialist or socialist. (13:27):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: If i'm right. (13:30):
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Jason Louv: But more more communistic event okay i mean yeah because their whole practice (13:30):
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Jason Louv: their whole theory was to basically, (13:36):
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Jason Louv: establish these settlements or these kibbutzes and you know live off the land (13:39):
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Jason Louv: and be able to you know what one person does you know is you know provides for (13:43):
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Jason Louv: another and what that person does should provide for you and we all basically (13:47):
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Jason Louv: give to each other while we're while we're establishing this place. (13:50):
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Jason Louv: And communism, you know, from that aspect, when you're establishing a nation, (13:54):
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Jason Louv: isn't necessarily a bad thing, as opposed to when a nation is already established (13:58):
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Jason Louv: under some sort of, you know, democracy or fascist, you know, dictatorship, (14:03):
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Jason Louv: and then communism is the law of the land, then it becomes a problem. (14:07):
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Jason Louv: But in the establishment, you know, I feel like it was necessary, (14:11):
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Jason Louv: because there was no established, you know, government right from the jump, (14:15):
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Jason Louv: you had these settlers that basically did not come into the land and start kicking (14:18):
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Jason Louv: people out of their homes. They set up tent cities in the fucking desert. (14:22):
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Jason Louv: So it's like, what are they supposed to do? So they cultivated the land and (14:25):
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Jason Louv: they lived off the land and then they traded with each other. (14:29):
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Jason Louv: So it was almost like without the exception of no one person can have more than the other. (14:31):
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Jason Louv: It wasn't like that. It was more like one person, like a commune, (14:36):
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Jason Louv: you know, basically like everyone provides for each other. (14:39):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: So, so. (14:42):
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Jason Louv: I forgot what the actual initial question was but you'll have. (14:44):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: To bring me back yeah well occasionally i. (14:46):
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Jason Louv: Go off on a tangent. (14:48):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: That's the beauty of podcasts uh somehow it all comes back to the where it's (14:49):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: supposed to go uh yeah i have i have an ex-girlfriend whose parents grew up (14:55):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: on one of the kibbutzes in the 60s and it sounded like a lot of fun actually (14:59):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: like they were they were partying non-stop i think except. (15:02):
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Jason Louv: They didn't have tv they only had radio. (15:05):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: That's not the worst thing you know know. (15:07):
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Jason Louv: In terms of like getting the media, like imagine having to hear about the six (15:09):
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Jason Louv: day war on the radio and you don't have actual broadcasters that you can watch (15:16):
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Jason Louv: and see footage of what's happening. (15:21):
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Jason Louv: So just from that aspect, you know, it's a little, it's a little weird, (15:23):
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Jason Louv: you know, but then again, I don't know. (15:28):
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Jason Louv: I don't know that way of life. And it was completely normal. And. (15:30):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: Well, I think that one people, I think something that people don't understand (15:35):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: is that Israel is a tremendous collection of different, of Jews from all over the world. (15:37):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: So ethnic groups from all over the world and also ideologies and forms of Judaism. (15:41):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: And, and it's incredibly diverse in that way. (15:47):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: And then, but you see people say incredibly offensive shit, like go back to (15:50):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: Poland and assuming that all Jews are white. (15:53):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: And like, there's, there's so many levels. I mean, not, not least the fact that (15:56):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: that's where the majority of the Holocaust happened. And there's so many levels (16:00):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: of unbelievably foul to statements like that, but I see them on the internet (16:03):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: every day. And so, you know. (16:06):
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Jason Louv: I mean, the best, the best way to describe the Jews is when it comes to Poland (16:08):
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Jason Louv: or Russia is we were a pinball that basically got stuck at the top of the, of the game. (16:14):
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Jason Louv: And we just bounced around for a little bit, but we were never really supposed (16:21):
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Jason Louv: to be there and they never really wanted us there. We never were able to obtain citizenship. (16:24):
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Jason Louv: We weren't able to migrate and immigrate elsewhere. (16:29):
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Jason Louv: We had a forced conscription of a 35-year military term. (16:32):
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Jason Louv: We were converted to Orthodox, a Russian Catholic. (16:37):
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Jason Louv: We were taken from our homes at 12 years old to a detention center, (16:43):
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Jason Louv: converted, and had an indoctrination of six years until you were 18, (16:47):
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Jason Louv: and then you had to serve until you were 43, and who knows if you were ever (16:52):
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Jason Louv: able to see your family again. (16:55):
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Jason Louv: That's why a lot of the males that were taken under, I believe it was Tsar Nicholas (16:57):
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Jason Louv: I or II, and if any historians are watching, they're going to be like, (17:02):
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Jason Louv: no, you should know that, you should know that, but I'm high and whatever. (17:08):
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Jason Louv: So that's why you see a lot of Russian nationalists that don't really subscribe to their Judaism. (17:13):
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Jason Louv: It's more about their nationalistic Russian identity, And that's a form of, (17:20):
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Jason Louv: you know, forced conversion because ultimately, if they knew who they were, (17:25):
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Jason Louv: they would denounce their, you know, fake Russian heritage and realize that (17:29):
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Jason Louv: they were originally from Judea. (17:33):
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Jason Louv: But you can't convince people once they have, you know, strewn off the path. (17:35):
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Jason Louv: So, yeah, we were a pinball that got stuck at the at the northern part of the (17:39):
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Jason Louv: game, which is northern Europe. (17:43):
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Jason Louv: And we weren't really even wanted there. And, you know, the pogroms from 1880 (17:45):
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Jason Louv: to 1920, you know, experienced, you know, the worst wave of attacks that Jews (17:48):
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Jason Louv: have basically ever seen. (17:54):
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Jason Louv: And it was surprising that Theodore Herzl was able to, you know, (17:55):
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Jason Louv: foresee that this was happening and and instill and instilled the idea of migrating (17:59):
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Jason Louv: back to Zion or to Israel, to Judea, Samaria, (18:06):
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Jason Louv: because we need to need it to for our safety. (18:10):
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Jason Louv: But it was also part of a bigger nationalist movement. (18:13):
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Jason Louv: It was like the Jews actually like raised their eyebrows and said, (18:16):
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Jason Louv: you know, well, OK, so the Russians, you know, are Russian from Russia and, (18:19):
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Jason Louv: you know, the the Germans. (18:26):
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Jason Louv: Are Germans from Germany. But who are the Jews and where do we belong? (18:29):
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Jason Louv: And the only logical answer, if you look at any of our prayer books for the (18:34):
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Jason Louv: past thousands of years, is, you know, we were trying to go back to Zion. (18:38):
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Jason Louv: We were trying to, you know, and next year we will rejoice in Jerusalem. (18:43):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: So, well, one thing that's happening, you know, now, which is, (18:48):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: you know, unbelievably tragic and disturbing is, well, let me put it this way, (18:52):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: you know, Theodor Herzl, which people don't know is the father of Zionism, you know, he was right. (18:57):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: And unfortunately, every passing decade proves him more right in the fact that (19:02):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: you now see that, you know, there was this assumption forever that America just (19:05):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: is with Israel no matter what. (19:09):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: And I think it will still be that way. And we need to reassert that forcefully. (19:12):
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Jason Louv: You know, people don't realize that America really didn't jump on like Israel's (19:16):
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Jason Louv: bandwagon until like the mid 70s. (19:21):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: Right. (19:23):
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Jason Louv: And we. (19:24):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: Weren't great on the Holocaust cost either we refused to bomb the train lines (19:24):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: to auschwitz and all this stuff so. (19:27):
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Jason Louv: I mean and we had you know immigration quotas you (19:30):
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Jason Louv: know that well i mean anyone could look up it's called the emergency immigration (19:32):
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Jason Louv: quota act of 1921 and then it was refined in 1924 and basically what that did (19:36):
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Jason Louv: was it it limited the amount of jews that they let in to a percentage that they let in in 1910. (19:42):
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Jason Louv: So it's like from Lithuania, from Bulgaria, from Romania, from Russia, (19:50):
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Jason Louv: however many Jews that they let in in 1910, they would only let in 2% of that amount in that year. (19:56):
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Jason Louv: And then in 1924, they refined it and they reformed it and they said, okay, we're going to do. (20:03):
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Jason Louv: We're going to do only 2% of what it was back in 1890. (20:11):
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Jason Louv: So you started from 1924 with 3%, and then you went back to 1890, (20:15):
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Jason Louv: which if anyone knows their history, not that many Jews were able to actually (20:19):
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Jason Louv: get out of Northern Europe in the late 1800s because of extreme persecution, (20:25):
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Jason Louv: lack of transport, (20:31):
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Jason Louv: as well as no funding in order to do that. (20:34):
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Jason Louv: Most of the Jews that came to America were broke. There was a story about there (20:37):
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Jason Louv: was a rule that you weren't allowed to get off the boat unless you had at least a dollar, (20:41):
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Jason Louv: because a dollar meant that you'd be able to survive for at least the night or two. (20:47):
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Jason Louv: So you had the I forgot what the name of the of the person that assists on the (20:52):
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Jason Louv: dock, you know, with the deep passenger ring of the people. (20:58):
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Jason Louv: But he would basically bring a dollar onto the onto the ship, (21:01):
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Jason Louv: hand it to the person. The person would walk back and hand it to another person, (21:05):
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Jason Louv: and they would just do this. (21:09):
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Jason Louv: But for lack of better words, the Jews that came to this country were flat broke. (21:10):
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Jason Louv: So there was a real need for us to seek refuge in the only place that we thought (21:15):
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Jason Louv: people weren't going to kill us. (21:21):
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Jason Louv: And look how good that did. But thank God it did. because had not had Theodore (21:23):
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Jason Louv: Herzl's project or experiment not taken form, me and you would not be here. (21:31):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: Yeah. And that's something that I think people need to understand and need to see going forward too. (21:38):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: I mean, you say Jews came here flat broke, but they also built this country in the years since. (21:43):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: And without, you know, one of the things that, one of the reasons why I've just (21:48):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: been trying to do whatever, (21:52):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: you know, say whatever I can is that the kind (21:53):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: of what I'm i'm seeing under the surface is you have america saying maybe we (21:56):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: shouldn't really support israel and then you also have people you (22:00):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: know israelis understandably saying like we can't trust america we (22:03):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: can only trust ourselves and that's an (22:06):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: understandable reaction and i think that needs to be america needs (22:09):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: to get its shit together because as far as i'm concerned we made (22:13):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: a promise to protect israel and that is a promise period and we don't get to (22:16):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: go back like we're going back on that and it feels like that and that if that (22:22):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: happens that you know it's not just it's not just israel it's america's gonna (22:25):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: fall apart the whole world's gonna fall apart and if i was if i we're. (22:29):
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Jason Louv: Gonna be stuck in one one islamic caliphate and it's not me being prejudice (22:33):
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Jason Louv: against arabs or islam i'm prejudice against radical islam. (22:38):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: And radical. (22:43):
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Jason Louv: Arabs and i think i'm pretty justified i want to i want to do a little experiment with you. (22:43):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: And all. (22:48):
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Jason Louv: Of your guests okay this is nothing Nothing romantic, but close your eyes. (22:48):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: All right. Okay. (22:54):
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Jason Louv: In the order that you hear this, I want you to rate what is scariest from scariest to less scary. (22:56):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: Okay. (23:04):
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Jason Louv: Praise Jesus. Baruch Hashem. Amen. Amen. Amen. (23:05):
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Jason Louv: So which one's scary? (23:11):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: Okay, yeah, it would definitely be Allahu Akbar, followed by praise Jesus, (23:12):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: which in comparison, by the way, not that scary these days, finally followed by Baruch Hashem. (23:16):
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Jason Louv: Yes. (23:22):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: But, you know, in comparison, nothing is as terrifying as, and let's talk about that. (23:22):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: Because, you know, one of the things a friend in Israel has said is, (23:27):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: you know, people have said. (23:29):
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Jason Louv: And this is not, and this is not being prejudiced against all Arabs. (23:31):
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Jason Louv: So I want this to be very, very clear, because if you want to clickbait this (23:35):
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Jason Louv: and you want to like clip this to be like, oh, look, you know, (23:38):
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Jason Louv: he's racist against. It's like, fine, whatever. (23:41):
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Jason Louv: You fucking want me dead anyway. So it's like you want to believe that that (23:43):
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Jason Louv: I'm being racist towards you when you want me actually exterminated. (23:48):
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Jason Louv: That's like, let's talk. That's a real fucking problem in itself. (23:52):
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Jason Louv: It's like, OK, my words hurt you, but your ideology wanting to kill me. I'm not. (23:56):
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Jason Louv: I'm going to be cool with it. Oh, thank you. Thank you. (24:00):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: So I have a friend in Israel that he was saying, you know, students in America (24:03):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: claiming that Israel is, you know, imperialism is, (24:07):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: you know, compared to, you know, compared to or rather radical Muslims talking (24:11):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: about imperialism is the height of irony. (24:15):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: And I wanted to read, I'm reading this. This is a book from Yale, Islamic imperialism. (24:18):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: Okay. And it just has four quotes in the beginning from different periods. (24:24):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: So it starts with Muhammad. (24:28):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: It says, I was ordered to fight all men until they say there is no God but Allah. (24:30):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: That's Prophet Muhammad's farewell address, March 632. (24:34):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: Followed by Saladin, I shall cross the sea to their islands to pursue them until (24:38):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: there remains no one on the face of the earth who does not acknowledge Allah. Saladin, January 1189. (24:43):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: Followed by the Ayatollah, we will export our revolution throughout the world (24:49):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: until it calls, there is no God but Allah and Muhammad is the messenger of Allah, (24:53):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: or echoed all over the world. (24:57):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: So that's the Ayatollah Khomeini, 1979. (24:58):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: And then finally, I was ordered to fight the people until they say there is (25:01):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: no God but Allah and his prophet Muhammad. (25:05):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: And that's bin Laden, November 2001. So there you go. (25:07):
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Jason Louv: So let's go and let's add to that with the 1988 Charter of Hamas, (25:10):
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Jason Louv: which is chase every last Jew behind every last rock and tree until every last (25:15):
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Jason Louv: Jew behind that rock is dead. (25:20):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: And probably a lot of the other countries, also Yemen. I mean, (25:22):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: we went through the Houthis. (25:26):
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Jason Louv: That's some scary shit. That's some scary shit right there. Like they talk about like Jewish supremacy. (25:27):
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Jason Louv: Like you don't hear our prayers like and we will convert everybody to judaism (25:32):
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Jason Louv: and show them how great moses was how big his staff was like right but we won't be satisfied. (25:37):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: Till everyone's eating chinese food on christmas. (25:43):
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Jason Louv: That's fucking hysterical that is hysterical i might i might steal that from (25:45):
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Jason Louv: but go ahead please please go ahead we the jews we will not be satisfied fine (25:51):
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Jason Louv: until everyone eats Chinese on Christmas. (25:56):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: Right. It's not too frightening. Yeah, and I don't think that people understand... (26:01):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: Well, first of all, they don't understand that Israel's fighting a war on seven (26:08):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: fronts. They don't understand how serious people are. (26:10):
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Jason Louv: The people that aren't Jewish don't care. They have zero care in the world for (26:15):
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Jason Louv: it because everyone has their own agenda. (26:20):
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Jason Louv: I mean, there's a lot of people that are for the fight that aren't Jewish, (26:24):
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Jason Louv: but my friends that aren't Jewish, unless they hear it from me, (26:27):
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Jason Louv: it's not in their algorithms. (26:32):
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Jason Louv: It's business as usual. it's you know not like if they see something on the (26:34):
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Jason Louv: news it's like oh an attack on jews it's like it's almost commonplace now so (26:38):
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Jason Louv: you don't realize that the amount of anti-semitism has went up you know from (26:42):
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Jason Louv: a global perspective by like anywhere between six and eight hundred percent (26:45):
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Jason Louv: which is that's scary and it's not like it's not like. (26:49):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: It was low before so it. (26:53):
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Jason Louv: Wasn't but it wasn't so in your face it's like we knew you hated us now you're (26:55):
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Jason Louv: wearing it on your shirt yeah now you're Now you're like, you know, (26:59):
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Jason Louv: that's in your bio on Instagram. (27:02):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: Yeah. And now we're seeing like people are putting like Hamas is coming, (27:04):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: spray painting it on the Liberty Bell, burning the American flag. Like, hello. (27:07):
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Jason Louv: At this point, it's like I'm like, remember those proud boys? (27:14):
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Jason Louv: You know, they were all like strapped with guns, ready to like, (27:17):
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Jason Louv: you know, it's like, all right, guys, listen, I know you guys don't like Jews, (27:20):
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Jason Louv: but I'm sure you don't like them. (27:22):
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Jason Louv: You know, I'm sure you love America more than you hate the Jews. (27:24):
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Jason Louv: So, you know, I mean, it's time to show up. I mean, our space lasers, (27:27):
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Jason Louv: you know, we're still tweaking a couple of things, so we're not going to be (27:30):
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Jason Louv: able to actually fire them off for a little bit. (27:33):
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Jason Louv: So we can use some help here in the name of democracy and Jewish freedom. (27:35):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: Well, that's one thing that people need to understand. I think that number one, (27:39):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: Israel is awesome. And number two, this is everyone's fight. (27:42):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: This idea that people don't realize it. (27:47):
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Jason Louv: It's it's staggering. (27:49):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: What do you think the best way to make that point to people is? (27:50):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: Because I saw, you know, I, you know, look, I went to the UK. (27:52):
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Jason Louv: It's easy. It really is. (27:57):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: Okay. (27:58):
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Jason Louv: Let's say, let's say Israel is crushed and there's no more Jews and Israel is (27:59):
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Jason Louv: now the 24th Muslim entity or nation. (28:04):
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Jason Louv: Is there going to be peace in the middle East? Does that, is that, (28:09):
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Jason Louv: is that going to, is that going to stop right there? (28:12):
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Jason Louv: What happens next? Do you think that, because the only reason that they are (28:16):
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Jason Louv: basically not wanting Israel to exist is because of their absolute passionate love for the Jews. (28:22):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: So. (28:30):
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Jason Louv: That's not all of them where do you think they're (28:31):
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Jason Louv: going after this because they're gonna have to make sure (28:34):
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Jason Louv: that there's no retaliation from the other jews so you (28:37):
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Jason Louv: think they're just gonna stay over here in the middle east i mean we've already (28:39):
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Jason Louv: seen kind of them and i hate to i mean it sounds like it but it's almost like (28:42):
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Jason Louv: a fungus that lower bacteria that is spreading and it's going beyond control (28:46):
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Jason Louv: we see germany we see the uk is just fucking lost yeah france you know um dearborn Dearborn, (28:52):
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Jason Louv: Michigan is not in Dearborn, Michigan. (28:59):
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Jason Louv: It literally is the first Sharia law state. (29:02):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: Is it actually? Is it? (29:05):
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Jason Louv: Well, the pride flag is banned there. Females are not allowed to be out unless (29:07):
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Jason Louv: accompanied by a male suitor. (29:14):
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Jason Louv: I believe they have to be in their burqas or their coverings at all times. (29:16):
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Jason Louv: I mean, don't quote me, but this is what I've seen or I've read in different newscasts. (29:20):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: But I haven't. (29:24):
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Jason Louv: Actually went to Dearborn and actually seen it firsthand nor do i think i'm going to go. (29:25):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: There but um. (29:29):
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Jason Louv: Yeah if there's one place that's not on my to-do list at any point in time anytime (29:30):
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Jason Louv: soon it's probably dearborn michigan. (29:35):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: Yeah i was on twitter started just i set up a twitter column where i was following (29:37):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: all the politicians in dearborn and yeah they're tweeting like they're in yemen (29:41):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: or something it's just like non-stop fuck israel it's just like wait this is (29:46):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: like these are american politicians Yeah. (29:50):
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Jason Louv: No, I have I have a real problem with the with the delegations from those states, (29:53):
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Jason Louv: because it almost feels like a hostile takeover or a slow takeover by by voting (29:58):
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Jason Louv: the ones that you want in that are sympathetic to the radical cause. (30:06):
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Jason Louv: And I don't think they even know how fucking dangerous it is. (30:10):
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Jason Louv: I don't even know if they, I mean, I'm sure that they believe what they think (30:13):
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Jason Louv: in their heads, but I don't know if anyone's actually really tried to explain the truth to them. (30:18):
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Jason Louv: And it's very disheartening because what are you going to do when you see, (30:23):
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Jason Louv: you know, the most perfectly executedly fake crafted death of a baby being crushed by a building in 4k. (30:27):
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Jason Louv: Like you can't tell someone that that's not real, even though we see the videos (30:38):
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Jason Louv: of the people, you know, before the building falls, you know, (30:43):
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Jason Louv: getting makeup put on them and people. (30:46):
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Jason Louv: Oh, I got to say, I'll send you as many as like, yeah, you never heard the expression, Pollywood? (30:49):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: I've definitely heard that. If you can send me some, I would love that because (30:54):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: then I can put it in the YouTube. (30:57):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: But I've seen things like Sean King got into a bunch of trouble because he tweeted (30:58):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: this video of IDF soldiers beating on a Palestinian woman in a marketplace. (31:02):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: But then people sent the whole clip and the part that he didn't show is her (31:10):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: just walking up and stabbing the shit out of the guy. (31:14):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: Just out of the blue for no reason. (31:17):
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Jason Louv: You showed that video recently in the airport where, (31:19):
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Jason Louv: Like the guy got kicked in the face? (31:23):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: No. (31:25):
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Jason Louv: So I'm trying to remember where it actually was. And maybe I shouldn't talk (31:27):
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Jason Louv: about it because I don't have the exact. (31:30):
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Jason Louv: The whole point is that the entire video was not shown. (31:32):
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Jason Louv: And the video beforehand, or when you see the entire video, it's like these (31:35):
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Jason Louv: two gentlemen are basically trying to beat the shit out of these soldiers. (31:40):
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Jason Louv: And there's a law that you're not (31:43):
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Jason Louv: allowed to basically use your hands on somebody (31:45):
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Jason Louv: that's resisting because you have to take your hand off of (31:50):
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Jason Louv: your gun and then that means that they can possibly grab your gun so (31:52):
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Jason Louv: they were using their feet okay and they kicked this and they kicked this dude (31:55):
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Jason Louv: right in the face and you know i probably would have done the same thing because (31:59):
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Jason Louv: it looked like they were causing some fucking mayhem and trying to beat up everyone (32:02):
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Jason Louv: but it's a scary fucking world out there so well one of the misinformation and (32:05):
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Jason Louv: the uh and the fake videos and the propaganda, (32:10):
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Jason Louv: it's enough to make you go crazy. It's like I said in the beginning. (32:14):
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Jason Louv: It's like you spend most of the (32:18):
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Jason Louv: time putting out the fake fires without actually fighting the real one. (32:19):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: Right. So one of the things that really just hit me like a brick in the face (32:24):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: maybe two or three months into this conflict is... (32:28):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: Just the extent to which it's like it's just like how much war has changed it's like (32:34):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: it's like you have the shooting on the ground but then you have the social media (32:38):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: war it's like the whole world is involved in this war on social media and i (32:42):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: didn't necessarily want to make that comparison because it's like oh yeah like (32:45):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: shit posting online is the same as people fighting in the idf but at the same time it's like it's. (32:48):
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Jason Louv: Very it's very much relevant like i don't know how old you. (32:54):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: 42 okay. (32:56):
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Jason Louv: Perfect so you remember watching like you know like cnn or msnbc back Back in (32:58):
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Jason Louv: the day when they were covering like the Iraq war where it's like, (33:03):
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Jason Louv: you know, it just wall to wall coverage and all you see is like the missiles and the bullets flying. (33:06):
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Jason Louv: It's like it was captivating. You just were watching it, but it's like there (33:10):
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Jason Louv: was no context behind it. (33:13):
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Jason Louv: Now you have context in 4k mixed with a whole shitload of misinformation and videos. (33:15):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: You have a war over the context itself. You know, it's like people like trying (33:22):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: to change, manipulate the how it's not just showing you things. (33:26):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: It's telling you how to perceive them. (33:30):
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Jason Louv: And they're using our laws and practices to their own advantage and saying that this is, listen, (33:32):
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Jason Louv: calling for an intifada or calling for the final solution should not be allowed under free speech. (33:40):
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Jason Louv: I understand in the context of free speech, you're allowed to criticize the government. (33:47):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: Free speech does not mean inciting violence. (33:52):
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Jason Louv: Lens it doesn't or does it mean you know (33:54):
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Jason Louv: screaming it like hateful death (33:56):
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Jason Louv: threat type of remarks out in the streets and it's like you don't see you don't (34:00):
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Jason Louv: see jews protesting out saying you know eradicate all the muslims you know like (34:05):
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Jason Louv: kill all the palestinians like you don't see and you don't see jews underneath (34:11):
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Jason Louv: yeah you don't see jews under palestinian people's posts you know like you know (34:15):
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Jason Louv: death to all the Palestinians you know we're hiding their faces, (34:19):
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Jason Louv: yeah I like IDF should bomb the whole place like you don't see this shit but (34:22):
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Jason Louv: yet we're the fucking problem it's like wake the fuck up world and I know that like, (34:27):
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Jason Louv: It's, you know, a lot of this is out of frustration that like our voice has (34:32):
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Jason Louv: been suppressed and we don't have the reach that we should and we don't have (34:36):
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Jason Louv: the backing that we should. (34:39):
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Jason Louv: And we're not as organized as we should. And one thing is for fucking sure, (34:40):
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Jason Louv: if the Jews ran the media, we would not be dealing with this fucking shit at all. (34:44):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: Yeah. Wouldn't you just be able to pick people off with the Jewish space lasers? (34:49):
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Jason Louv: Yeah, absolutely. Use a fucking, you know, a Magandavid fucking, (34:52):
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Jason Louv: you know, Jewish stars like a Chinese star and just fucking start winging it at people. (34:55):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: Did you ever see uh i'm sure you've seen space balls right they have that part (35:00):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: in the end where they have the star of david spaceships flying uh yep i love (35:03):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: that movie yeah that's great she. (35:08):
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Jason Louv: Didn't look jewish. (35:09):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: Well one thing that i think in terms of counteracting narrative is that i think (35:10):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: can be really really powerful and effective is addressing specific you know (35:16):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: quote unquote influencers so you you mentioned the word intifada which i don't (35:20):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: think people understand the context of that or what that means at all. (35:24):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: They think it means resistance. (35:26):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: One person who is incredibly pernicious is Abby Martin, who's been going around (35:28):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: saying, globalize the intifada and like holding up signs saying that and then (35:34):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: claiming she's the voice of peace and justice. (35:37):
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Jason Louv: I'm sure she's a nice person. (35:39):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: Oh, yeah. I'm sure she's delightful. Yeah, yeah. But I think that maybe I've (35:41):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: noticed in my advocacy for Israel is that people will come back with say, (35:46):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: well, what about Abby Martin? (35:52):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: Or what about norman finkelstein people like this and i my background is the (35:53):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: left i was about 20 years ago i was about as liberal as you can possibly get and i haven't. (35:57):
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Jason Louv: Really changed my. (36:01):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: Opinions that much it's just the world has gone completely insane. (36:02):
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Jason Louv: Right the world has changed me it's like i haven't really i haven't taken a (36:05):
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Jason Louv: conscious effort to change but it's like seeing what i've seen around me has (36:09):
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Jason Louv: forced me to tweak my ideologies or my beliefs or you know my my focus i mean it's It's like, (36:13):
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Jason Louv: you have to, I mean, if you're not able to adapt and overcome in today's society, (36:20):
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Jason Louv: you're done for, you know, but in terms of Abby Martin or Norman Finkelstein, (36:25):
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Jason Louv: you have a lot of self-hating, self-loathing Jews. (36:31):
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Jason Louv: And the only thing that I can think of is if I have a product and I want to (36:34):
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Jason Louv: market it to a certain bunch of people, and I want to maximize on the amount of money that I can make, (36:40):
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Jason Louv: do I want to market it to 15 million people? (36:46):
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Jason Louv: Or do I want to market it to 2.3 billion people? (36:50):
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Jason Louv: Which way would I make a little bit more money? So that's one aspect that, (36:55):
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Jason Louv: and I have no way of substantiating that. (36:59):
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Jason Louv: I don't know one way or another, but I do believe at some point, (37:02):
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Jason Louv: Norman Finkelstein definitely had either his girlfriend or his fiance or his (37:08):
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Jason Louv: wife that got fucked very, very well by an Israeli, (37:14):
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Jason Louv: like better than he ever could lay down his dick game. (37:19):
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Jason Louv: And since then, he has been salty as a pair of fucking 80-year-old sweating nuts. (37:22):
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Jason Louv: But I don't know his motivation of why he does this, but it's so toxic and it's so, (37:28):
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Jason Louv: infuriating because he's a brilliant man who does say some brilliant shit, (37:37):
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Jason Louv: but it's very misguided and it's very out of context, (37:42):
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Jason Louv: and a lot of it is skewed to show favoritism for his side, which is basically (37:45):
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Jason Louv: trying to highlight the plight of the Palestinians or what he thinks that should happen in the future. (37:52):
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Jason Louv: So in terms of his stance on individual things, like we can pick those apart (37:59):
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Jason Louv: because I'm very sure on all of the things that he's done. (38:04):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, that would be great. (38:08):
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Jason Louv: But all you have to do is, I mean, it's a long debate, but Lex Friedman had (38:10):
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Jason Louv: a debate with Norman Finkelstein, with Destiny, with Benny Morris. (38:16):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: I saw that. Mr. Borelli. Yeah. (38:20):
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Jason Louv: That was. (38:22):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: Hilarious norm lost blue his top that was so funny. (38:24):
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Jason Louv: If you just think about it like this you don't (38:28):
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Jason Louv: even have to watch the whole thing when he's trying (38:31):
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Jason Louv: to pick apart a quote from the most notable historian in history that's a double (38:34):
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Jason Louv: neck that's like most notable historian in history in history yeah like benny (38:41):
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Jason Louv: morris he's trying to take a quote from benny morris's book and try to tell him, no, (38:47):
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Jason Louv: this is what you meant when you wrote this book, which is from the greatest (38:53):
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Jason Louv: historian of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. (38:58):
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Jason Louv: And he tries to always bring it back to this quote. He's like, (39:03):
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Jason Louv: no, but they had to have been like this, and you meant this. (39:07):
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Jason Louv: And trying to argue with the person that wrote it just shows you the type of person, (39:10):
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Jason Louv: he is. You could go to his Wikipedia and you could actually read that people (39:17):
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Jason Louv: say that he falsifies truths. (39:22):
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Jason Louv: He embellishes, you know, the actual facts. (39:26):
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Jason Louv: I mean, would I love to debate him? Sure. I mean, he'll probably, (39:29):
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Jason Louv: you know, talk about a thousand different things besides the actual topic at hand. Right, right. (39:34):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: What do you think the core of, so you said you would love, you you're well versed (39:39):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: in his points and what do you think the core of his points are and how you would counteract them. (39:43):
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Jason Louv: Howard it's the belief and (39:51):
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Jason Louv: the material that he first studied i bet you it has heavily a lot to do with (39:54):
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Jason Louv: the hundred year the hundred years of palestinian war by rashid kalidi i can (39:59):
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Jason Louv: almost guarantee you that you know noam chomowski which has been his mentor (40:03):
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Jason Louv: has you know basically almost indoctrinated him to be like a second gnome. (40:07):
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Jason Louv: And, you know, even though, you know, we're supposed to, you know, (40:12):
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Jason Louv: say, you know, not speak ill of the dead, you know, rest in peace, whatever. (40:15):
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Jason Louv: But and I know that's insensitive, but I really don't give a shit because it's (40:20):
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Jason Louv: like when you are a Jew and you go against the Jewish people, (40:23):
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Jason Louv: you're like you're worse than a capo. (40:26):
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Jason Louv: A capo was like forced to do that, you know, in order for survival. (40:29):
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Jason Louv: Nobody's forcing you to go against the Jews right now. Now, only your stupid (40:33):
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Jason Louv: twisted ideology and how you perceive things and how you deem yourself as the (40:37):
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Jason Louv: foremost expert when you're talking straight nonsense is just garbage. (40:42):
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Jason Louv: If you want to believe, if you want to talk about the root of the cause, (40:47):
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Jason Louv: you have to go to, let's see, and we can start at the very, very beginning, you know, where, (40:51):
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Jason Louv: okay, so this is all about Islamic honor and the preservation of Islamic honor (40:57):
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Jason Louv: and thinking that you have a place in somebody else's story in order to preserve that honor. (41:03):
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Jason Louv: And I believe that's what Norman Finkelstein tries to do. (41:09):
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Jason Louv: But the ideologies that he has with his studies of, or I'd say, (41:13):
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Jason Louv: not his ideologies, his perception of the 1982 war in Lebanon with Israel is (41:18):
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Jason Louv: where it actually first started. (41:24):
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Jason Louv: And I believe that he bought into a lot of the propaganda where. (41:26):
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Jason Louv: Israel allowed the Coptic Christians to basically massacre a lot of the, (41:31):
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Jason Louv: you know, Lebanese people, you know, in an uprising. (41:35):
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Jason Louv: Meanwhile, that's only one side of the story. (41:38):
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Jason Louv: It wasn't like Israel, it wasn't like Israel, the IDF would let them do anything. (41:41):
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Jason Louv: It's like they didn't occupy Lebanon. (41:46):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: Right, right, right, right, right, right. (41:48):
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Jason Louv: Invade them. But it's like we can't really control what another group does. (41:51):
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Jason Louv: Similar to we can't control what the Leahy did at Deir Yassin. (41:55):
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Jason Louv: And that whole contention with that massacre, even though there's substantiation (41:59):
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Jason Louv: that it wasn't a massacre, or at least wasn't a massacre like people think. (42:07):
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Jason Louv: It wasn't 240 innocent civilians massacred. (42:10):
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Jason Louv: The delay he went into, dear Yassin, with megaphones and said, (42:15):
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Jason Louv: clear out. We are coming through. (42:19):
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Jason Louv: Get out. I mean, there's going to be a war here. and they were in fortified (42:21):
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Jason Louv: houses with machine guns firing at them. (42:27):
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Jason Louv: The one massacre that they do claim that people said was that 13 soldiers were (42:31):
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Jason Louv: lined up in a firing squad when they were captured and they were systematically executed, (42:38):
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Jason Louv: which is a war crime and the Leahy were persecuted for it because they were (42:43):
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Jason Louv: deemed as like a terrorist organization. (42:47):
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Jason Louv: So when people say, oh, did Jews ever do anything bad? Like, (42:49):
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Jason Louv: yeah, we did a couple of things, but not on the level of that. (42:52):
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Jason Louv: But the point that I'm making is even how bad that was, there was a guy by the name of Dr. (42:57):
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Jason Louv: Khalidi who was actually the grandfather of the author of the 100 Years Palestinian War. (43:02):
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Jason Louv: And you know that Rashid Khalidi teaches at Columbia University. (43:08):
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Jason Louv: So how the students are indoctrinated like that, I think he's head of Middle Eastern studies. (43:11):
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Jason Louv: So his way is what they're learning and dissemination of that false propaganda (43:18):
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Jason Louv: that 1948, Israel stole Palestine. (43:26):
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Jason Louv: Rather than 1948, Israel declared itself a state and had a declaration of independence (43:32):
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Jason Louv: and won its freedom from seven different fronts that sought to attack it the (43:39):
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Jason Louv: day after they declared their independence. (43:43):
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Jason Louv: It's a very different story. And it's not like they don't have a good rationale (43:46):
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Jason Louv: behind why they're doing it, but it's misguided. (43:52):
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Jason Louv: And that lie has been perpetuated for almost a century. so the battle of Deir Yassin Dr. (43:55):
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Jason Louv: Khalidi comes in and says we need to maximize on this massacre and we need to (44:02):
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Jason Louv: call for a caliphate because like a call to action it was almost like sending (44:06):
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Jason Louv: a mass text listen we're about to fuck shit up everybody come in, (44:10):
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Jason Louv: so he so he made up a lie and went to the news stations and the media reporting (44:14):
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Jason Louv: and the newspapers of the time which basically was controlled by the Ottoman (44:20):
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Jason Louv: Empire because this was very very I'm sorry by. (44:25):
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Jason Louv: By the ruling body right after the Ottoman Empire. (44:28):
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Jason Louv: So free speech just kind of started, but it was still regulated to a certain extent. (44:32):
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Jason Louv: So he lied and said that the IDF raped pregnant women and killed babies. (44:37):
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Jason Louv: And that's where the whole blood, that's where that particular blood libel of baby killers, (44:43):
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Jason Louv: you know, stems from, you know, even, you know, I know it's been hundreds of (44:48):
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Jason Louv: years since they said that the Jews basically took the, you know, (44:52):
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Jason Louv: Christian babies and use their blood for different rituals or whatever. (44:55):
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Jason Louv: But that lie spread to all the villages. And rather than. (45:02):
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Jason Louv: Pulling all of the Islamic and Arabic, you know, nations together to vanquish (45:08):
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Jason Louv: Israel, it scared the villages and they basically turned to flight. (45:14):
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Jason Louv: They thought that if the IDF would rape pregnant women and kill babies, (45:19):
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Jason Louv: we should leave our houses. (45:23):
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Jason Louv: So that propaganda, that lie helped cause the displacement of the 700,000 Palestinians, (45:24):
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Jason Louv: which the Nakba is not actually the displacement of the Palestinians. (45:33):
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Jason Louv: The Nakba, it was a catastrophe that seven armies went against these subservient, (45:38):
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Jason Louv: second-class citizens and the people that were looked at as not even human beings (45:44):
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Jason Louv: like the Jews were able to defeat them. That's a catastrophe. (45:50):
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Jason Louv: The fact that the 700,000 were displaced, they were a victim of circumstance. (45:55):
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Jason Louv: That's collateral damage in my book. But that's not the Nakba. (46:01):
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Jason Louv: The Nakba is the catastrophe of the Arab armies losing when they were a dominating (46:04):
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Jason Louv: force for close to a thousand years. (46:09):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: And then that got repeated in 1967, which people don't understand the history of either. (46:12):
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Jason Louv: Right. Well, so 1967 is actually I did I put that post out yet? (46:17):
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Jason Louv: I don't know. I'm actually putting that out probably later today. (46:24):
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Jason Louv: Age. But in 1967, you have Abdul Nasser, who has an agreement with King Hussein (46:27):
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Jason Louv: of Jordan, that he has control of the Jordanian army for the sole purposes of attacking Israel. (46:34):
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Jason Louv: Nasser also has an agreement with King Assad of Syria, that they're going to (46:39):
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Jason Louv: attack simultaneously, basically one right after another, or as soon as one (46:43):
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Jason Louv: of them gives the, you know, it's all hands on deck, let's go. (46:47):
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Jason Louv: While lining up all the troops along the Sinai Peninsula, inshallah. (46:52):
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Jason Louv: In Egypt, which is on the border of Israel. Israel sees this and gets intel that this is happening. (46:56):
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Jason Louv: And they make the decision to launch a preemptive strike because war was imminent, (47:02):
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Jason Louv: like they had sufficient intel to launch that preemptive strike. (47:06):
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Jason Louv: And if they didn't, there would have been a lot more casualties. (47:10):
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Jason Louv: So June 5th, 1967, they launch a preemptive strike. (47:13):
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Jason Louv: And in the most systematic, you know, bombardment of the Egyptian Air Force (47:17):
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Jason Louv: and completely decimated them, which they've been practicing, (47:23):
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Jason Louv: you know, to go to war with Egypt for years. (47:27):
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Jason Louv: So in one failed swoop, boom, Egyptian air force completely decimated. (47:29):
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Jason Louv: They no longer have, have any sort of air support for anything. So basically they won. (47:34):
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Jason Louv: Egypt spreads a rumor. See how propaganda, this is how propaganda gets you in trouble guys. (47:41):
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Jason Louv: So Egypt spreads a rumor that they were victorious to maintain the rapport with the Egyptian people. (47:44):
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Jason Louv: So Nasser could hold onto his, you know, position of power and they don't, (47:51):
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Jason Louv: you know, like throw him out, you know, for, for losing against the, against the Jews. (47:54):
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Jason Louv: So the media covers this as a great victory. (48:01):
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Jason Louv: They try to contact Syria to let them know. (48:05):
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Jason Louv: Now the military tries to contact Syria or our NASA's people, (48:08):
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Jason Louv: but, and this is where I might not have my facts correct, but their encryption (48:12):
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Jason Louv: machine to decipher cipher coded messages, they had just upgraded. (48:18):
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Jason Louv: And Syria didn't do the Microsoft update of the time to basically be able to read it. (48:23):
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Jason Louv: And so Egypt was warning Syria about, listen, we just got crushed by the Israelis. (48:29):
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Jason Louv: So you might think twice about doing that. (48:34):
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Jason Louv: So in that process, Syria hears the broadcasting from Egypt about the great (48:37):
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Jason Louv: victory, and they think it's business as usual. (48:43):
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Jason Louv: They attack israel they lose israel (48:45):
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Jason Louv: now has hold of the golan (48:49):
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Jason Louv: heights because it drove syria back it was (48:52):
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Jason Louv: it took hold of jerusalem because it was able to drive the jordanians back and (48:54):
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Jason Louv: now israel is very very large with territory they also take over the sunai peninsula (48:59):
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Jason Louv: so now israel really is the promised land which was promised to abraham you (49:05):
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Jason Louv: know basically from mesopotamia to egypt you know, (49:11):
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Jason Louv: without actual Egypt proper, so to speak. (49:14):
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Jason Louv: So I hope this is not boring to you, I guess, because I know there's one big (49:17):
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Jason Louv: like history lesson, but everyone, light your joints because I still got more to go. (49:21):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: Very good. Very good. Yeah, there's a lot to, there's a whole lot of moving parts here. (49:25):
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Jason Louv: Right. So in war, when you lose, you lose territory. (49:29):
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Jason Louv: You also don't have the right to cry about it. (49:35):
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Jason Louv: If you're lining up all of your troops and you're about to strike, (49:39):
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Jason Louv: but we hit you first, but you came to the schoolyard to fight. (49:43):
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Jason Louv: I just happened to be at the schoolyard already. So you actually took the initiative (49:47):
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Jason Louv: to come there. You don't get to cry about it afterwards. (49:51):
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Jason Louv: And this is also within context, while Syria, Jordan, (49:55):
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Jason Louv: and Egypt are fighting or trying to attack Israel, you also have the Palestinians (50:02):
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Jason Louv: within Palestine or the West Bank and Gaza that also are having uprisings and (50:08):
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Jason Louv: trying to add to the fight. (50:15):
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Jason Louv: But the main fight was the call to action from the Arab armies, (50:17):
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Jason Louv: which basically fought on behalf of the Palestinian Liberation Organization (50:22):
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Jason Louv: or the Palestinian movement at the time. (50:26):
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Jason Louv: So this occupation is not (50:29):
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Jason Louv: an occupation patient if you lose because of (50:32):
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Jason Louv: military conquest if you're fighting in one area and (50:35):
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Jason Louv: i need to kill you in order to stop you (50:38):
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Jason Louv: from killing me but i have to go into that territory you (50:41):
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Jason Louv: think i'm gonna let you back so you could do it again no like that's right like (50:44):
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Jason Louv: let's look at it in the in the context of gangs and territories and turfs okay (50:49):
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Jason Louv: okay i'm one gang i'm operating on my block selling my shit you're operating (50:54):
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Jason Louv: on your block selling your shit you come onto my block looking for a fight. (50:59):
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Jason Louv: I engage with you. I drive you back to your block where, you know, (51:03):
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Jason Louv: you, you, you run shit, but I beat you. (51:07):
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Jason Louv: Am I letting you have that block back? Cause what if you try and do that again, (51:11):
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Jason Louv: this block is strategic for me to have so that you can't come and attack me (51:14):
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Jason Louv: again. So now I can sell my shit on both blocks. (51:19):
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Jason Louv: And you know what? Now you're never getting it back because you attack me and that's not nice. (51:21):
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Jason Louv: So that's, that's the Golan Heights in a nutshell. show. (51:27):
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Jason Louv: It's like, because of where it's located geographically and strategically, (51:30):
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Jason Louv: if Syria or Lebanon were to have hold of that, like you'd have free reign to decimate all of Israel. (51:33):
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Jason Louv: You could literally see everything from the mountain range of the Golan Heights. (51:41):
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Jason Louv: So that is not an occupied, that is not Israeli occupied territory. (51:46):
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Jason Louv: That is Northern Israel. (51:51):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: Now, let's talk about 2005 and Gaza and Judea and Samaria or the West Bank. (51:53):
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Jason Louv: And let's do it quick because I'm definitely going to have to go to the bathroom, (51:59):
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Jason Louv: Sean, and I definitely got to go run out because I got to take my pops to a doctor's appointment. (52:02):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: Oh, boy. OK, well, maybe instead of that. (52:06):
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Jason Louv: Then we'll go through Gaza. (52:07):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: OK, let's go through that then, because I also don't fully comprehend why Israel (52:09):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: would give the territory back. (52:13):
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Jason Louv: Me either. But you know what? Israel has a way of cutting its nose off the spite (52:15):
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Jason Louv: its face in the interest of peace and not just peace in the region. It's peace worldwide. (52:21):
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Jason Louv: It's for the sanctity of, (52:28):
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Jason Louv: peace of mind. Okay. Not only just peace, but peace of mind. (52:31):
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Jason Louv: Like when the world has peace of mind and they don't have to worry about it, (52:35):
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Jason Louv: it's almost like the matrix effect. (52:38):
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Jason Louv: It's like, if you didn't know that, you know, the matrix, you know, (52:39):
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Jason Louv: was, you know, what really is going on and the, and the, your eyelids are pulled (52:42):
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Jason Louv: up to what reality actually is. (52:47):
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Jason Louv: You might want to be, you know, back in the matrix where you don't know any (52:48):
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Jason Louv: better and it's just business as usual. (52:52):
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Jason Louv: So the world operates a lot better when the status quo is maintained. (52:53):
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Jason Louv: So in 2005, it was (52:58):
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Jason Louv: after seeing the 140 separate (53:01):
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Jason Louv: suicide bombings from 2000 to (53:05):
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Jason Louv: 2005 in what's called the second intifada so these (53:08):
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Jason Louv: things that that they're calling for are violent uprising even the first intifada (53:10):
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Jason Louv: which they say you know oh it was just you know kids throwing stones at the (53:16):
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Jason Louv: idf like if you picture 30 people with rocks and we're talking like rocks that (53:20):
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Jason Louv: are like this big We're not talking like like little fucking like little pebbles that, (53:25):
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Jason Louv: you know, we're talking like boulders that get thrown at cars and soldiers and (53:30):
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Jason Louv: people like that's not a peaceful demonstration. (53:35):
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Jason Louv: That's not a a lightly shaking off. (53:41):
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Jason Louv: They like to say that the definition is to shake off. It's a violent uprising. (53:44):
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Jason Louv: Rising so the whole reason that there is a blockade and (53:47):
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Jason Louv: a fucking checkpoint and there's a (53:51):
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Jason Louv: border is because of the second intifada when the israeli people can trust that (53:54):
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Jason Louv: the palestinians don't want to kill them every chance that they get maybe that (54:00):
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Jason Louv: blockade and that border and those checkpoints will calm down a little bit but (54:05):
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Jason Louv: prior to 2000 there was no blockade there were no checkpoints So they can't fucking say, (54:09):
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Jason Louv: you know, end the blockade, stop the blockade, (54:14):
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Jason Louv: you know, you know, because if had they had Gaza not smuggled weapons from Egypt (54:16):
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Jason Louv: and through the Mediterranean in order to commit these heinous acts, (54:22):
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Jason Louv: there would be no need for the blockade and there would be business as usual. (54:25):
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Jason Louv: Gaza had one of the most beautiful beaches in all the world that a lot of people (54:28):
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Jason Louv: in southern Israel used to frequent on a regular basis. (54:33):
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Jason Louv: So there was a lot of people that worked between Gaza and Israel proper. (54:38):
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Jason Louv: So the whole reason of 2005 of – what are we talking about in 2005? What do we want to know? (54:43):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: Hamas and them coming in. Okay. Where they fit in. (54:50):
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Jason Louv: Where they fit in. So 2005, PLO and Fatah was basically the governing body. (54:54):
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Jason Louv: And there was a coup that was staged to basically eliminate Fatah. (55:01):
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Jason Louv: And then subsequently, Hamas, you know, through force, kind of took over, (55:05):
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Jason Louv: forced an election, forced a victory. (55:12):
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Jason Louv: And then a second place victory party to Fatah was throwing them off the roofs (55:14):
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Jason Louv: of buildings and killing their opposition. position. So Hamas has been in control since 2005. (55:19):
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Jason Louv: And under the, I guess the, (55:24):
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Jason Louv: the shield or the force field of UNRWA, you know, which is the biggest problem (55:27):
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Jason Louv: in the entire grand scheme of things. (55:32):
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Jason Louv: So you have a radical regime that basically is indoctrinating their youth, (55:35):
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Jason Louv: starting at five years old to be trained to kill Israel, storm Israel, (55:40):
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Jason Louv: take hostages, become a martyr, and get you 72 virgins by becoming a martyr (55:45):
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Jason Louv: and grace and blessing your family, you know, from your martyrdom. (55:51):
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Jason Louv: How do you fight against that? How do you win a war against people that are (55:55):
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Jason Louv: willing to train their kids to kill? (56:01):
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Jason Louv: That's a deeper form of evil all in itself. (56:06):
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Jason Louv: And Israel, being the strong nation that it is, the fact that they were complicit (56:10):
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Jason Louv: in allowing Hamas to get this much power and allowing it to actually operate, (56:17):
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Jason Louv: it's almost like they were willfully blind. mind. (56:23):
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Jason Louv: It's like, you can't tell me that they didn't know that some shit was going (56:25):
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Jason Louv: on and they were just hoping that they wouldn't reach the capabilities or have (56:29):
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Jason Louv: the balls to do it, knowing that if you attack Israel, Israel is going to attack you tenfold. (56:32):
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Jason Louv: So that's Gaza in a nutshell in 2005. (56:38):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: Well, I know you got to go. So I think a good place to end it on is my perception (56:41):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: right now is that Israel is screaming at America and the world to wake up. (56:45):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: And so if you could encapsulate what that needs to involve. (56:49):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: Help us take the hummus pill, if I can call it that, in modern parlance. (56:54):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: What do we need to wake up to? (56:58):
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Jason Louv: It's hard to say wake up to the propaganda because it's like you have thousands (57:01):
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Jason Louv: of millions of people that are screaming like, you know, like conspiracy theory (57:07):
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Jason Louv: and the deep state and this is, you know, AI. eye. (57:10):
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Jason Louv: And if you do the slightest bit of research of who the Jews actually are and (57:14):
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Jason Louv: who the Jews actually were versus who people thought they were and who people thought they are, (57:21):
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Jason Louv: you might get some level of understanding. (57:29):
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Jason Louv: But if I had to sum it up, the Jewish people have been shitted on since the dawn of time. (57:32):
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Jason Louv: And we know how it feels to be shitted on. So we would never want (57:37):
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Jason Louv: to do that it's not like you know oh you (57:41):
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Jason Louv: got molested by your uncle so now you're going to molest your (57:44):
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Jason Louv: nephew like it's not it's not one of those things like we (57:47):
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Jason Louv: were persecuted so much that we would never want to (57:49):
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Jason Louv: do that to another group of people let alone would we ever want to pick a fight (57:53):
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Jason Louv: with somebody that like literally it's a thousand to one like the finger blaming (57:58):
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Jason Louv: and the and the and the justifications and the rationales are understandable, (58:04):
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Jason Louv: but they're a little misguided. (58:10):
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Jason Louv: And they're based on lies that have been compounded for over a hundred years (58:12):
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Jason Louv: by an ideology that stems from a hundred years ago, from the first Palestinian (58:18):
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Jason Louv: leader, which is Haj Amin al-Husseini. (58:23):
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Jason Louv: Who was basically taught by Dr. Khalidi. (58:26):
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Jason Louv: Like, I mean, he was taught, I'm sorry, who was taught by Rashid Raida, (58:29):
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Jason Louv: who was an Egyptian scholar, (58:33):
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Jason Louv: who had the first known encounter of calling the Arabs of Palestine non-complacent (58:35):
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Jason Louv: entities because they were just people within the Ottoman Empire that didn't identify as anything. (58:42):
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Jason Louv: So that whole ideology of this letter that he wrote to them saying that you're (58:49):
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Jason Louv: going to let the Jews come in and turn you into slaves and they know so much (58:57):
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Jason Louv: about society that they're going to basically far exceed what your capabilities (59:00):
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Jason Louv: are, so you need to act up and act now. (59:06):
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Jason Louv: And then followed by Hajimini al-Husseini's quote, which is there would be no (59:08):
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Jason Louv: stop to any of the fighting until every last Jew was vanquished and Palestine was Arab only. (59:14):
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Jason Louv: You only have to go back and look at that to understand the ideology of what we're faced with now. (59:21):
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Jason Louv: And if people in America can wake up and understand that we're dealing with (59:27):
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Jason Louv: a bunch of people that have taught their dogs to be dog fighters. (59:32):
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Jason Louv: And I'm not meaning to call them dogs, but once you're a rabid dog, (59:36):
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Jason Louv: it's very, very hard to rehabilitate you just by the snap of the fingers or (59:40):
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Jason Louv: just by trying to talk to you. (59:44):
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Jason Louv: It doesn't work. But the people that know better should act better. (59:47):
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Jason Louv: And the people that are smart enough to understand that the wool is being pulled (59:52):
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Jason Louv: over your eyes and they're force-feeding you some shit that really, (59:56):
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Jason Louv: in common sense, is not believable. (59:59):
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Jason Louv: Stop perpetuating the fucking narrative of the genocide, the apartheid, (01:00:03):
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Jason Louv: the ethnic cleansing, the blockade, and all of the other stupid buzzwords that they use. (01:00:08):
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Jason Louv: So wake the fuck up, America, and realize that like you realize that i'm a that (01:00:14):
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Jason Louv: i'm a real motherfucker and i'm not going to like peddle some you know propaganda (01:00:18):
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Jason Louv: there's bullshit on you because i'm not getting paid for this or neither am (01:00:21):
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Jason Louv: i yeah but have hasbro give me a call after right right. (01:00:25):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: Right yeah i say i i say i just want access to let me just use the jewish space (01:00:28):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: lasers once that's all i want. (01:00:32):
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Jason Louv: Exactly just once i would say more about the birth of the palestinian refugee (01:00:34):
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Jason Louv: problem 1948 1949 by benny morris okay and and less of the 100 years Palestinian war, Rashid Khalidi. (01:00:40):
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Jason Louv: Because this one, the Rashid Khalidi, is the equivalent of the elders of Zion. (01:00:48):
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Jason Louv: And the propaganda, that was the first mind-cum-f, almost. (01:00:54):
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Jason Louv: So it's a lot of propaganda, it's a lot of opinion rather than fact. (01:00:58):
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Jason Louv: And Benny Morris actually is the historian that went into the archives and is (01:01:03):
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Jason Louv: telling it from the most objective point of view. (01:01:07):
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Jason Louv: And if you need to understand what I mean by objectivity, he is totally against (01:01:10):
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Jason Louv: any of these the illegal settlements or whatever you want to call it in the (01:01:14):
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Jason Louv: west bank so so you could believe what he's saying and take it as gospel because (01:01:18):
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Jason Louv: it's not like he's showing favoritism he's just reporting the facts okay. (01:01:23):
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IamjopauL on Israel, Islamism & Middle East Escalation: Well thank you so much for being on the show it was lovely to speak. (01:01:26):
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Jason Louv: Absolutely you enjoy yourself have a good week thank you again thank you. (01:01:30):
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