Ep. 222: Ancient Manifestation Secrets With George Lizos

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Track 2: Welcome back to the podcast. It's good to see you again. You have a new book (05:09):
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Track 2: out, please. Let's just kick it off. (05:13):
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Track 2: But the remind the audience who you are for those who haven't listened to your (05:16):
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Track 2: first episode, which they should definitely do. And tell us about your new book. (05:19):
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Track 1: Well, first of all, thank you. We'll hold on a second, Jason. (05:23):
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Track 1: Can we start this again? Cause I have the wrong mic on. (05:26):
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Track 2: Oh yeah, no problem. Actually, I need to turn the red light on. (05:28):
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Track 1: I think this should be even better. (05:31):
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Track 1: Now I have the right one. (05:33):
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Track 2: So zoom lets you ai generate backgrounds now so this is supposed to be ancient (05:35):
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Track 2: sumeria let's see i love it let's all right well okay so then so you just want (05:39):
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Track 2: to completely start over, (05:46):
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Track 2: yeah all right well let's just kick it off welcome back to the show george it's (05:48):
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Track 2: good to see you again thank. (05:53):
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Track 1: You so much for having me i'm so grateful to be here. (05:54):
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Track 2: Absolutely it's wonderful to have you back please let everyone remind the audience (05:56):
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Track 2: who you are for those who have not listened to your first episode which they (06:01):
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Track 2: definitely should and tell us about your new book. (06:04):
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Track 1: So my name is george lizos i'm a (06:08):
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Track 1: spiritual teacher and a psychic healer and also (06:10):
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Track 1: a priest to hellenic polytheism and my (06:14):
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Track 1: new book is called ancient manifestation secrets and it's (06:17):
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Track 1: actually the sequel kind of to my (06:20):
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Track 1: previous book that we did the episode last time the (06:23):
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Track 1: secrets of greek mysticism which was all about the religion (06:26):
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Track 1: of the ancient greeks this time with ancient manifestation secrets (06:29):
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Track 1: i'm drawing from ancient hermeticism and (06:32):
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Track 1: therefore hermetic philosophy which was like a (06:36):
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Track 1: mix of the ancient greek and ancient ancient egyptian philosophy (06:39):
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Track 1: to talk about manifestation not from (06:43):
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Track 1: the new age perspective but from the perspective taught by (06:46):
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Track 1: the ancients and bringing in different energetic (06:49):
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Track 1: practices so that i can teach people to manifest with their energy field so (06:52):
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Track 1: we have a more spiritual energetic but also more pragmatic and grounded perspective (06:58):
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Track 1: to manifestation and this is a book i'm so excited i try to like dress my book (07:04):
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Track 1: today that's why i'm wearing. (07:09):
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Track 2: This holographic kind of shirt very good excellent so (07:11):
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Track 2: that's super that's super interesting so let's see where (07:15):
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Track 2: do where do we begin with that I think the first (07:18):
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Track 2: thing I want to ask you is what is your definition (07:21):
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Track 2: of hermeticism that's the first part of my question the (07:24):
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Track 2: second part is it sounds like you're pulling out (07:27):
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Track 2: a more authentic you know earlier version of it so I'm super curious after you've (07:30):
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Track 2: defined hermeticism how this early how what you're looking at and what you're (07:36):
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Track 2: bringing out is different from maybe what most people understand hermeticism (07:40):
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Track 2: to be or what's commonly called hermeticism in the marketplace. (07:45):
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Track 1: Yeah, so Hermeticism is essentially a philosophical school that emerged in later (07:49):
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Track 1: antiquity, and it's the merging of the ancient Greek and the ancient Egyptian tradition. (07:56):
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Track 1: It's said to include the teachings of Hermes Trismegistus, Hermes Trismegistus (08:01):
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Track 1: in Greek, and therefore that means Thrice Raid Hermes. (08:08):
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Track 1: Now, the way it was taught and portrayed (08:13):
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Track 1: and known to be is that it's the teachings of Hermes slash Thoth. (08:18):
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Track 1: So we have the Greek Hermes and the Egyptian Thoth, and it's their common teachings. (08:25):
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Track 1: So what happened in later antiquity, there was a lot of syncretism. (08:31):
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Track 1: There was gods that were similar coming together, and their teachings were propagated (08:35):
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Track 1: in the world. Of course, whether it was a channeling of Hermes or Thoth, nobody really knows. (08:40):
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Track 1: We know the teachings have survived. A lot of them have survived and have reached us to this day. (08:46):
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Track 1: What I've done with this book specifically, I focused it on the Kibaleon. (08:52):
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Track 1: Now, the Kibaleon is not an ancient text. (08:57):
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Track 1: It is a relatively modern text that's set to summarize the foundations of Hermeticism, (09:01):
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Track 1: specifically the seven principles of the universe that I like to call the seven (09:08):
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Track 1: ancient manifestation laws of the universe, (09:13):
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Track 1: because that's how I came to understand the Kibbalion while reading it. (09:16):
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Track 1: I'm like, okay, these are ways of understanding how the universe works and also how life is created. (09:19):
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Track 1: And therefore, we start by talking about the seven laws of the universe in a (09:26):
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Track 1: more simple and understandable way, because the Kibbalion, for those people who read it, (09:30):
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Track 1: it's a very complicated kind of book and i actually i (09:35):
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Track 1: when i was doing my research i'm like you know what i'm (09:38):
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Track 1: because i speak three languages i'm like i wonder if (09:41):
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Track 1: i can get different things by reading it in in different languages so i read (09:45):
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Track 1: it a few times in english then i read it in greek and i read it in spanish and (09:49):
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Track 1: each time i would read it i would understand different things which is a completely (09:53):
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Track 1: different conversation about language and how that's super things change when (09:57):
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Track 1: we read things in different languages. (10:02):
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Track 1: But that's the premise of the book. It's the Kibalean. (10:03):
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Track 2: So that's such a famous book, and it's such a foundational book. (10:07):
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Track 2: It's one of the first ones that often that people discover. (10:13):
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Track 2: And it's about hermeticism, but that's more kind of a product of the New Thought (10:17):
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Track 2: era, if I'm correct, right? (10:21):
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Track 2: Which is not to say it's not hermeticism, because New Thought is a product of (10:23):
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Track 2: hermeticism in my way of thinking. (10:27):
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Track 2: But The Kabbalion, I'm guessing, is a book that probably a lot of the people listening know. (10:30):
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Track 2: And so what was it in going to it? (10:35):
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Track 2: Were you able to discover new aspects of it? I'm definitely interested in how (10:38):
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Track 2: it was in different languages. But, (10:42):
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Track 2: What was your take on it, going back and looking at it so intensely this time? (10:45):
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Track 1: Yeah. So, what I really discovered that in the Greek edition of the book that (10:49):
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Track 1: I didn't read in any of the English or the Spanish editions is the meaning of the word kybalion. (10:55):
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Track 1: It's actually a Greek word. (11:01):
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Track 1: It could be a Greek word. Nobody really knows. (11:03):
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Track 1: Kymvalo, which means symbol. and when (11:06):
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Track 1: you look at the ancient or fixed ancient texts (11:09):
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Track 1: they talk about the seven sacred sounds (11:12):
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Track 1: of the universe the idea that the universe is (11:16):
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Track 1: created of seven sacred sounds hence we (11:18):
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Track 1: have the seven principles seven laws (11:21):
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Track 1: of the universe and if you want to take it more into (11:24):
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Track 1: like syncretism thinking about other different (11:27):
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Track 1: traditions we have the seven chakras and by (11:30):
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Track 1: the way and the seven layers of the aura and yesterday i (11:33):
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Track 1: was diving into orphism researching the next book (11:36):
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Track 1: and there was a talk (11:39):
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Track 1: about the seven layers of the aura that (11:42):
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Track 1: the ancient greeks talked about in a different way they called also the chakras (11:46):
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Track 1: like energy centers they use different names for them so i'm always fascinated (11:51):
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Track 1: as to how the number seven keeps repeating itself in ancient texts and i find (11:56):
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Track 1: there's something important here. (12:02):
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Track 1: And yes, Kibbalan is more of a new thought kind of book, but the essence of (12:04):
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Track 1: it, I feel, is very ancient. (12:09):
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Track 1: What I like to say to people is that new age is actually really, (12:12):
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Track 1: really, really, really, really old age. (12:16):
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Track 1: And we're basically rediscovering. Yeah, we're rediscovering answers that the (12:19):
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Track 1: ancients have already answered. (12:24):
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Track 1: And we're taking that and we're trying to use them and apply them in a modern context. (12:26):
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Track 2: Yeah, that's a really good point to make. And I think that that's one that's (12:32):
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Track 2: a very basic point of clarification that's almost like so obvious that it's hiding in plain sight. (12:37):
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Track 2: But I think that simply deciding where we are orienting ourselves towards going, (12:42):
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Track 2: whether that's into the future or into the past, it's actually really important. (12:48):
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Track 2: There's a lot of assumptions that come out of that. (12:51):
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Track 2: And that's actually, I think, very confusing because you hear a new age and then, (12:53):
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Track 2: yeah, you're you're getting all this ancient stuff (12:57):
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Track 2: so i think clarifying maybe we need a new term for (13:00):
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Track 2: it but but you know wisdom you know wisdom traditions (13:03):
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Track 2: is good i like that but that's it that's a really important point so how what (13:06):
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Track 2: you mentioned earlier finding the distinction of kind of perhaps the original (13:13):
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Track 2: hermeticism whoever that was attributed to whether that was whether hermes trismegesis (13:18):
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Track 2: this was a pen name or not, (13:23):
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Track 2: as far as I know, we don't know, with what it became later. (13:24):
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Track 2: Because Hermeticism has been with us since for at least 2,000 years, (13:28):
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Track 2: right? And in many ways, it's just the Egyptian, it comes out of the Egyptian religion. (13:31):
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Track 2: Would you say that it's kind of the survival of the Greek and Egyptian religions in a way? (13:36):
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Track 1: It's part of the survival of that. Something I also remember reading in the (13:41):
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Track 1: Greek edition of the book, in like the preface, which was written by the publisher, (13:44):
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Track 1: actually, it's not part of the Kibaleon, is that they found a lot of the principles (13:49):
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Track 1: of the Kibaleon in the pyramids of Egypt. (13:53):
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Track 1: So they go all the way back. And yesterday, I was reading about karma from the Greek perspective. (13:56):
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Track 1: It was called andipeponthos. (14:04):
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Track 1: That is a Greek, ancient Greek word for karma. And it's basically the law of (14:06):
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Track 1: cause and effect that is one of the principles of the Kybalion. (14:11):
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Track 1: So we can see how it's all interconnected. And what the authors of the Kybalion (14:15):
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Track 1: have done is they've essentially took the basics and they've summarized them (14:19):
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Track 1: in a way that makes sense for people. (14:25):
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Track 1: If you read the hermetic texts, the original ones, you can see the essence of (14:27):
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Track 1: that in there as well. But the reason I didn't want to go there and I chose (14:33):
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Track 1: the Kibaleon is because it's something that people are familiar with. (14:38):
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Track 1: It's something that people have read, but many people don't really understand (14:41):
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Track 1: because the way it's written, it's very like old school. (14:45):
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Track 1: And also the Kibaleon, the actual book, it doesn't teach you how to apply the (14:49):
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Track 1: laws of the universe on those principles. (14:53):
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Track 1: It just like mentions the laws. So I wanted to make it practical. (14:55):
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Track 1: How do I take that information and how do I teach people how to apply it in their lives? (14:59):
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Track 1: And what I did, because part of my work is research and part of my work is channeling (15:06):
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Track 1: in the sense of I'm meditating, I'm connecting and seeing what comes forth. (15:13):
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Track 1: I went to Delphi in Greece. (15:16):
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Track 1: And I wanted to celebrate writing this book. So I wrote most of the factual (15:20):
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Track 1: content while being here in Cyprus. And then I'm like, okay, (15:24):
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Track 1: I want to celebrate by going to Delphi. (15:27):
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Track 1: So I did a 10-day trip to Selfie, and I was there. (15:28):
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Track 1: And what happened is that at Athens, at the airport, I had forgotten my luggage (15:32):
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Track 1: with my clothes at the airport, as people do. (15:37):
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Track 1: I hadn't had a coffee that morning. So I went through security check, (15:40):
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Track 1: forget my bag there, and arrived in Athens without any clothes. (15:44):
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Track 1: And in retrospect, I realized that was the universe guiding me because I didn't (15:48):
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Track 1: have anything else to distract me. (15:52):
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Track 1: And I was just in a little cottage, a Delphi facing Delphi, essentially. (15:54):
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Track 1: And every single morning and night, I would just write and write and write and write. (15:59):
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Track 1: And I felt like my hands were writing things I wasn't aware of at the moment. (16:02):
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Track 1: And then I started practicing. (16:07):
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Track 2: Wow. (16:08):
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Track 1: And it all made sense. (16:08):
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Track 2: That's incredible. So you feel that you were being guided almost to learn the (16:09):
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Track 2: faculty of channeling at Delphi, where the Oracle of Delphi was. Do I have that right? (16:14):
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Track 1: Yes. That's wild. I mean, my work, my work has always been around like psychic (16:19):
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Track 1: abilities and channeling all of that. (16:25):
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Track 1: And I had been to Delphi before and I had like intense experiences and epiphanies (16:27):
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Track 1: and channeling while being there. (16:31):
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Track 1: So I'm like, you know what? I'm going to let Sola guide me. He's like my guiding God, my patron God. (16:33):
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Track 1: Anyway, so I'm like, okay, I'm hollow. I'm open. (16:38):
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Track 1: Flow through me. Show me what I need to know. She helped me understand the Kabbalah (16:41):
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Track 1: in a deep way and helped me most importantly apply it. (16:44):
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Track 2: And then is this something that was like a one-time thing or do you feel that (16:48):
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Track 2: that was just open for you, that ability from then on? (16:52):
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Track 1: I, my, my whole journey as a psychic killer has been a continuous opening and (16:56):
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Track 1: expansion and, and learning. I believe we're all born psychic. (17:03):
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Track 1: Some people are born more psychic than others. And it's just a matter of developing (17:07):
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Track 1: it. I was never the psychic kid. (17:10):
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Track 1: I just worked my ass off to do this. I tell people I used to be a complete muggle (17:12):
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Track 1: and that, that learned to be a wizard. (17:17):
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Track 2: That's great. Yeah. Which gives you hope for the rest of us. (17:20):
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Track 1: Of course. (17:23):
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Track 2: Right. So how would you define, what does being psychic mean for you? (17:24):
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Track 2: Because I've talked to a lot of psychics, I've worked for psychic companies, (17:30):
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Track 2: and psychics are often wonderful, (17:33):
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Track 2: wonderful people, but they often have different definitions of what psychic (17:35):
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Track 2: is, which often I think tends to come from what school they trained with, (17:39):
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Track 2: if they did some type of formal training. (17:43):
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Track 2: But what does that mean to you, for instance? (17:45):
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Track 2: And do you draw a distinction between psychic and empathic and find details like that? (17:49):
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Track 1: I find people use different terms based on what they like most and what their (17:54):
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Track 1: experience has been. For many years, I used the term intuitive. (17:59):
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Track 1: I've used the term psychic and the word empath as well. (18:02):
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Track 1: To me, being psychic slash intuitive, it's all about coming more into your true nature. (18:05):
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Track 1: Because we all have the ability to open up and receive guidance from source (18:12):
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Track 1: because we are extensions of spirit. (18:16):
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Track 1: We're extensions of the universe, of source, true being, as the ancient Greeks (18:18):
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Track 1: like to call it. We have this physical body, but there is an energetic perspective to that body. (18:23):
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Track 1: The more we learn to soften our physicality and open more into our spiritual (18:27):
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Track 1: body, the more we're able to perceive what's beyond the physical world. (18:31):
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Track 1: Essentially, it's more, it's the process of being ourselves fully, (18:35):
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Track 1: without the constraints of the physical world. (18:41):
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Track 2: So that's actually really interesting. That suggests some interesting modeling (18:44):
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Track 2: ideas in the sense that, so... (18:49):
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Track 2: And this checks out with experiences that I've had. But you would say that as (18:52):
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Track 2: you let go into a sense of self, then the psychic abilities develop naturally? (18:56):
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Track 1: Absolutely. However, I'm a strong believer in learning how to manage them, (19:04):
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Track 1: learning how to work them. (19:09):
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Track 1: In the same way that we go to school to learn something, to learn a new skill, (19:10):
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Track 1: I believe we need to do the same thing when it comes to psychic abilities. (19:15):
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Track 2: There are schools for learning that. i think that's something that people don't (19:19):
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Track 2: realize but yeah that's out there in the world yeah. (19:23):
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Track 1: Yeah and but we live in an online world there's so many access to like online (19:27):
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Track 1: content online right now people can start with books they can go to online schools (19:32):
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Track 1: i have my intuition mastery school which is all about that training a new generation of intuitives. (19:36):
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Track 2: That's great so. (19:40):
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Track 1: There are many ways to go about it. (19:41):
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Track 2: Yeah i mean i teach magic online as well but that (19:43):
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Track 2: magic is a little different actually a lot different actually from (19:45):
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Track 2: psych because magic is much more about using technical processes (19:48):
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Track 2: to manifest things whereas the intuitive and (19:52):
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Track 2: psychic faculties that's a whole different that's a whole (19:55):
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Track 2: different field and often like a different role it's those aren't necessarily (19:57):
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Track 2: combined in one person and that's not but like i said having been around a lot (20:02):
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Track 2: of psychics it's amazing how detailed the orientation can be particularly when (20:08):
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Track 2: you look at things like the Barbara Brennan school or the Silva method, (20:12):
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Track 2: I think is another one that people use a lot, right? Those things are out there anyways. (20:17):
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Track 2: So what, what was your take on, what do you think the Oracle of Delphi actually was? (20:21):
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Track 1: So, the Oracle of Delphi was, by the way, there have been many oracles in the (20:27):
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Track 1: ancient times. Here in Cyprus, where I'm from, we have the temple of, (20:34):
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Track 1: sorry, the Oracle of Aphrodite. (20:37):
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Track 1: So, oracles were part of civilization, were an essential part of life. (20:39):
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Track 1: Divination was not something foreign. (20:45):
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Track 1: It was a way of people, that people got guidance about how to move forward with their life, (20:47):
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Track 1: their purpose, and how the state and governmental (20:53):
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Track 1: organizations and people like important people in the government (20:56):
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Track 1: would make decisions important decisions for the country what people (20:59):
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Track 1: do not understand is what the oracle of (21:02):
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Track 1: delphi and the other the other oracles actually did (21:05):
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Track 1: or didn't so when you see the prophecies they (21:08):
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Track 1: are very vague they can be interpreted in (21:13):
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Track 1: different ways so modern skeptics like (21:15):
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Track 1: to think oh it was a fake kind of thing because (21:19):
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Track 1: it just lied to people it was very generic it could be interpreted in (21:22):
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Track 1: different ways of course it could because the (21:25):
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Track 1: whole point of divination in the ancient times was not (21:27):
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Track 1: to take power away from you was to give you (21:30):
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Track 1: all the knowledge that you needed so that you could make (21:33):
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Track 1: your own decisions okay because yes the ancient greeks did believe in fate to (21:36):
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Track 1: some degree they called it imarmeni which is how things are supposed to be and (21:41):
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Track 1: mira in english it's usually referred to as moira but it's mira the way it's (21:46):
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Track 1: pronounced in Greek, which is essentially fate. (21:51):
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Track 1: But that had to do with fated opportunities. (21:54):
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Track 1: What we do with these opportunities has to do with our own free will. (21:57):
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Track 1: So, the oracle of Delphi and Apollo, who provided the prophecies, (22:01):
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Track 1: would not go against your free will. (22:06):
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Track 1: They would not tell you this is going to happen or this is what you're supposed to do. (22:08):
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Track 1: The whole aim was, here's all the information, now use it to make an informed decision. (22:12):
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Track 2: And that's the best way to approach divination in a modern context too, (22:18):
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Track 2: I think, even if you're just working with tarot or I Ching on your own or with a reader. (22:23):
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Track 2: I think that one thing that people happens with, you can see people getting (22:27):
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Track 2: addicted to psychic readings or intuitive readings, (22:31):
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Track 2: and they keep going back until they get the answer that they want, (22:35):
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Track 2: or they'll go to different psychics until they get the answer they want, (22:38):
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Track 2: which is, it's kind of like, well, (22:42):
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Track 2: I like how you've put it, which is, no, just kind of take in the information (22:43):
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Track 2: and use it to guide your own decisions instead of waiting for somebody to give (22:47):
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Track 2: you permission to do something in your life, which is I think a trap. (22:51):
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Track 1: Yeah. But at the same time, and this is something that I wanted to stress in (22:54):
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Track 1: ancient manifestation secrets, is that there are also karmic contracts in place. (22:58):
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Track 1: Because when it comes to manifestation, everybody's talking about the law of (23:03):
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Track 1: attraction. It's the most powerful law in the universe. (23:08):
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Track 1: And I call it BS in that, like on the statement. (23:11):
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Track 1: Because yes, the law of attraction, which in the Kibaleon is the principle of (23:15):
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Track 1: vibration, the law of vibration, it's a very powerful law in the universe. (23:19):
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Track 1: But it's not more powerful than the law of gravity. You cannot visualize falling (23:22):
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Track 1: upwards and manifest that. (23:26):
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Track 1: You're always going to fall downwards because that's how that law works. (23:28):
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Track 1: So there are no law that's more powerful than other laws. Although laws work (23:31):
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Track 1: together, you cannot trump a law, but you can work with a law. (23:35):
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Track 1: There is fine print that you can use. (23:39):
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Track 1: So yes, a law of attraction slash vibration is powerful, but there are other (23:41):
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Track 1: causes that result in manifestation. (23:46):
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Track 1: The law of cause and effect states that for every effect, and therefore manifestation, (23:49):
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Track 1: there have been a series of causes. (23:53):
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Track 1: One of these causes could be magic, it could be our vibrational frequency, (23:55):
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Track 1: it could be the way we think and believe and feel, but there are also karmic (24:00):
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Track 1: contracts, past lives, ancestral conditioning, collective intentionality, (24:04):
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Track 1: so many other external factors that we don't talk about that affect the whole thing. (24:10):
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Track 1: Same thing with divination, same thing with manifestation. (24:15):
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Track 2: That last one's the kicker, collective intentionality that's the one that people (24:17):
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Track 2: always forget because i think people want to live in a solipsistic universe (24:21):
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Track 2: where they can have total control over reality and it's like well you know there's (24:27):
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Track 1: There are two types, but why not bring it all together? Why not practice magic, (31:22):
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Track 2: We're all doing that, you know, we're all kind of doing that anyways, (31:31):
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Track 1: Yeah, yeah. It's so important to do that, especially within manifestation, (31:46):
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Track 2: Well, I tend to find that that is actually a lot more powerful because I mean, both I love both, (32:08):
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Track 1: Of course, because these are all obstacles that are preventing the manifestation from showing up. (32:43):
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Track 2: Yeah, no, that's really important. And one phrase that I love, (33:32):
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Track 2: Yeah, yeah, for sure. Well, the other thing is one thing that particularly as (33:56):
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Track 2: Because particularly these days, events keep happening that shift our whole (34:38):
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Track 2: Have you ever had experiences where you felt like you've been able to affect (35:44):
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Track 2: Yeah i would i would i agree and i like the point about working out things in the past, (36:21):
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Track 1: She told me about like how to become invisible. And I'm like, what do you mean? (37:32):
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Track 2: That's great. That's great. That's a good trick. That's a good trick to remember. That's really funny. (38:29):
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Track 1: i published secrets of greek mysticism we talked about it and (39:57):
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Track 1: okay yeah and i published like our publisher as well same publisher as you and (40:07):
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Track 1: Yeah. So what I did was I planted in 2021, I planted the energy of this book in my energy field. (40:20):
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Track 2: okay, if you're getting a lot of resistance, it's like, is the universe telling me not to do this? (42:07):
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Track 1: And I stand by that. I don't accept and no. I'm like, you're just not the right person for this book. (42:35):
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Track 1: I'm like, Disney-like is what I was going for. I mean, look at me. What did you expect? (42:47):
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Track 2: Have you seen how much money Disney makes? This is not a bad thing. (42:53):
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Track 1: So if someone says, I feel I'm a failure, they've learned to identify as someone who is a failure. (43:31):
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Track 1: Ooh, I is 10 years old now. And then you go on and on and on and on until you (45:15):
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Track 1: You're like, oh no, I'm not a failure. I'm a success. I'm excited to work on it. (45:27):
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Track 2: on on emdr and related therapies it's for it's for it's legit it's for real have you tried eft at all. (45:37):
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Track 1: Yes i use eft as well i (45:44):
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Track 2: It's actually used by militaries to treat PTSD. So it's like for real, for real. (46:06):
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Track 1: Yeah, I work with veterans, guiding them through IMT process, (46:12):
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Track 1: The most important thing when dealing with trauma, and that's actually really (46:49):
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Track 1: So it's really important to work with someone who's trauma informed, (47:25):
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Track 1: Essentially, re-traumatization, that's important for everybody to know. (47:33):
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Track 1: So re-traumatization occurs when we remember a traumatic experience in a stressed (47:36):
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Track 1: Yes. So we tense up, our heartbeat gets faster, our breath gets more intense (48:05):
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Track 1: I'm telling myself what the practitioner tells you you know what you're (48:33):
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Track 1: affirm that are you safe right now are you still in the past (48:39):
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Track 1: no i'm in the present moment great so let's take a deep (48:42):
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Track 1: my favorite techniques is the wet noodle technique take a deep breath in and (49:17):
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Track 1: Visualizing your sit bones expanding outwards and melting into the chair because (49:26):
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Track 1: there is research saying that when we relax our sit bones then we relax the (49:32):
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Track 2: what are your favorite ways for getting people into that relaxed state particularly (49:48):
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Track 1: There are many ways to emotionally regulate that wet noodle technique is one (50:07):
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Track 1: And you can do this for like 30 seconds and suddenly you realize you're no longer (50:26):
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Track 1: muscle relaxation, starting from the top of the head and then relaxing each muscle sequentially. (50:41):
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Track 1: when we get triggered, it's really important to be mindful, first of all. (51:07):
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Track 2: That's really helpful that's really helpful well let's see okay we've covered (51:18):
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Track 2: a lot of ground here we we've gotten off the thread of hermeticism but what (51:24):
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Track 2: are more what have we not talked about with your book that people should know. (51:29):
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Track 1: manifestation that's very different from the practices and the processes taught (51:46):
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Track 1: out there like the most famous process a new age process the secret process (51:51):
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Track 1: is ask believe and receive the idea like you ask for something i want this and (51:54):
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Track 1: then i believe it by faking it till you make it, (52:02):
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Track 1: receive which is like allow yourself to receive it easier said than done now (52:09):
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Track 1: my process goes the other way around so i'm going to share the five steps and (52:13):
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Track 1: an authentic desire. It's going to come from the ego. (52:53):
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Track 1: So we start by our spiritual practice, by raising a vibration, (52:55):
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Track 1: connecting with source, connecting with spirit, finding out who we are. (53:00):
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Track 1: I guide people through a process of identifying what their life purpose is, (53:04):
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Track 1: come here for a mission so let's find that (53:41):
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Track 1: we move into the next step all about releasing limiting beliefs okay now that (53:53):
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Track 1: i've raised my vibration and therefore i know who i am i know my purpose and (53:57):
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Track 1: i find desires let me release the limiting beliefs that i have that prevent (54:01):
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Track 1: me from manifesting those desires through IEMT, eye movement therapy, (54:05):
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Track 1: but I also have energetic practices of connecting with the frequency of emotions and beliefs, (54:11):
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Track 1: connecting them with different people and entities from the different planes of existence. (54:32):
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Track 1: And then after you've done that consistently, you take inspired action. (54:37):
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Track 1: But my way of taking inspired action is more practical. (54:40):
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Track 1: I'm all about balancing masculine and feminine energy. Muscular energy being (54:43):
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Track 1: i guide people to plan their year in (55:16):
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Track 2: Yeah, that's a really good point. I think that... (56:11):
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Track 2: A big part of, like you mentioned, the secret formula and what is not mentioned (56:15):
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Track 2: in that, but what is mentioned in your approach, which I think is really critical, (56:20):
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Track 2: You know, where am I standing in my own way? Or do I want something? (56:32):
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Track 2: And that may not be negative, but maybe you want something else in a positive (56:37):
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Track 2: sense, but it conflicts with, you have conflicting desires. That's very common. (56:40):
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Track 2: So, I think that's a really good process of working through those things. (56:45):
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Track 2: That's a really simplified and effective, I think, modern approach to magic, (56:50):
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Track 1: Yeah. And what I've done in the last part of the book is I have a manifestation (56:57):
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Track 1: Where every single day, it's all about using the processes in the book sequentially (57:03):
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Track 1: But what i do in the end is like even if your (57:10):
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Track 1: a list of how you've gotten closer to (57:16):
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Track 1: up in your life are you having more synchronicities that's another way to realize (57:30):
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Track 1: that you know what actually the universe is supporting me yeah i may not have (57:34):
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Track 2: I find that keeping records can be really helpful because we often (57:41):
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Track 2: don't realize how quickly things work and how dramatically (57:44):
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Track 2: that's why taking stock and having a practice of gratitude is i think so helpful (57:57):
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Track 2: You know, I can get up and be grumpy and then look around and say, (58:08):
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Track 2: well, wait, this is actually everything I wanted when I was a teenager, you know? (58:11):
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Track 2: So it's like when you zoom out on a longer timescale, it suddenly it's can be very reassuring. (58:15):
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Track 1: Can I share something? Because you mentioned gratitude, which is one of my favorite practices. (58:21):
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Track 1: And something that I teach in the book, in the part about raising your vibration, (58:26):
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Track 1: because there are many, I teach energetic ways of raising your vibration and (58:31):
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Track 1: How can we adjust our lifestyle, change things in our home, our relationships, (58:36):
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Track 1: I teach what I call gratitude touchstones. (58:45):
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Track 1: the day and this is something that i do every single day i (58:51):
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Track 1: have three gratitude touchstones during (58:54):
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Track 1: the day and i've placed them in very strategic places in the beginning of the (58:57):
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Track 1: day i send a voice message to my best friend saying all the things i'm grateful (59:02):
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Track 1: for among other things i do like a longer practice there but essentially starts (59:07):
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Track 1: with gratitude so you set the foundation of the day to that vibration of gratitude. (59:11):
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Track 1: Then in the middle of the day, I send a voice message to another friend. (59:16):
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Track 1: I send a message to another best friend. And I say, yeah, and I say what I'm (59:23):
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Track 1: So you transmute it and therefore you maintain that high vibration in the middle of the day. (59:44):
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Track 1: And then at the end of the day, I send another voice message to another best (59:49):
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Track 1: And then fourth best friend, I send another voice message and I tell her my highlight of the day. (59:57):
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Track 1: And they have to say it back i mean they have to like send me their voice message as well what. (01:00:25):
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Track 1: You know what because when they listen to it they also activate the energy that (01:00:40):
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Track 1: Daily for the past four years it changed my life weekends too weekends too no (01:00:55):
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Track 1: breaks how did it so how did it. (01:01:02):
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Track 1: Well, first of all, I've manifested two books this year. (01:01:06):
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Track 1: But more than that, I feel, aside from like manifestation, I feel happier. I feel more fulfilled. (01:01:10):
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Track 1: And it's not like I have more things than I used to have. I just see them more (01:01:17):
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Track 1: And therefore, I milk my life more because we have so many things around us (01:01:23):
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Track 1: So when we understand them you're just happier yeah like (01:01:34):
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Track 2: I think that's that's one of the most important practices and for me it just (01:02:05):
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Track 2: You know like things roll downhill naturally following gravity so and i definitely (01:02:16):
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Track 2: Also, it feels balanced. Like there's a lot of emotions where, (01:02:26):
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Track 2: for instance, you immediately think of their opposite love, hate, (01:02:30):
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Track 2: Gratitude, like you said, I love how you phrased it is a transmuting emotion. (01:02:38):
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Track 2: It really, I don't think there's any situation it can't fully handle, (01:02:42):
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Track 2: But yeah, no, that's definitely one of my favorite practices as well. (01:02:48):
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Track 2: All right. Great. Well, this has been a great conversation. (01:02:51):
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Track 2: Thank you for being back on the show. I think it feels like we've covered the (01:02:54):
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Track 2: major points of your book, but tell people where they can buy it, (01:02:58):
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Track 2: of course, and where to find out more about you. (01:03:01):
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Track 1: Yes, you can buy it. First of all, thank you so much for having me. (01:03:04):
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Track 1: I love this conversation and I'm so excited for people to hopefully enjoy it as well. (01:03:07):
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