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This is Palm Sunday, and let'slook at the scriptures together.
So, mijo, I don't care howyoung you are, you better look.
Mita, look.
Did I say it right?
Okay, fluent.
Somebody said, they're prophesying.
So look at the word together.
So they.
There's a crowd.
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There's they.
This is the original Palm Sunday.
They took branches of palmtrees, so.
Branches of palm trees.
And what did they do?
They went out to meet him.
This is Jesus.
And they're crying out, hosanna.
Hosanna.
And it's like the most epicworship service ever.
And they're saying, blessed ishe who comes in the name of the Lord.
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Even the King of Israel.
And I'm telling you, when theysaid even the King of Israel, people
probably like, yeah, the king.
I mean, it was crazy.
You know?
Like, those worship services.
How many of you have been toV1 before?
How many?
Is this your church?
Okay?
I said, is this your church?
Someone's like, people from myother iglesia are going to see me.
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Okay?
I'm going to swat you with this.
So, you know, we've hadworship services here where we're
all literally bawling our eyes out.
You know that moment where theglory of the Lord starts to come
down and you're like, oh, Jesus.
You know those moments, theones that our social media team catch
me crying, and then they putit on the clip and do me dirty like
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that, where it's me, like, soyou know how they do every time I'm
like, you're fired.
And they're like, I don't evenwork here.
Oh, man.
But the thing about thoseworship services is that we're crying
out before the Lord, andthere's just such a certainty in
the room, and it's such apowerful moment.
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That's really what this was like.
But let me put it in thehistoric context, so I'm gonna go
deep.
All right?
So stay with me.
It had been 400 years of themwaiting for the Messiah, 400 years
of them groaning andtravailing and crying and praying
out and, oh, Lord, just sendus our Messiah.
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And the Jewish understandingof Messiah was not just, he's gonna
forgive my sins, and I'm gonnago to heaven.
The Jewish understanding ofMessiah was we are living under Roman
occupation, and this RomanEmpire is so large and expansive,
and we're subjected to theirrules and their laws and their.
And they treat us poorly.
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The Roman people treated them poorly.
And so the Jews were a groupof people living subjugated to a
Larger group of people.
So for years, they had thissentiment that our Messiah's coming,
and when he comes up, he'sgoing to take care of all y'all.
Like, it was like, when yourbig brother comes to the playground,
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you're like, oh, keep messingwith me, because when my brother
comes, he gonna take care ofall y'all.
It was like they kind of hadthis feeling of like, listen, we're
under Roman occupation now,but when our Messiah comes, he's
whooping all y'all butts that.
My mom's all excited about that.
I don't know.
She loves to just whoop.
She's like, yes, whoop.
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Those Romans.
Mom, the Romans are gone.
They don't even exist anymore.
They've already been whooped.
But let me tell you why thisis important, because I'm trying
to give you the historic context.
Jesus comes riding down theKidron Valley on a donkey, not a
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white horse.
Kings, military kings andgenerals ride on white horses.
Now, let me ask you a biblical question.
Is Jesus eventually gonna comeriding on a white horse?
Okay, follow me.
But in this picture, he comesdown on a donkey.
It's almost as if he wastrying to tell them, y'all are missing
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it, because your expectationsare not my expectation.
And the thing that you want isnot the wrong thing.
It's just, you want it out of order.
The thing that you want is notthe wrong thing.
It's just not time for that thing.
And how you want to get thatthing is not how you're going to
get that thing.
And so they're crying out, hosanna.
Blessed is he who came in thename of the Lord.
Oh, this is our Messiah.
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This is our Savior.
And then the Jewish peoplewould have been saying in Hebrew,
yashana, Yashana, Yashana, Yashana.
And they would have beenspinning in four different directions,
because that basically meansdeliver now.
Deliver now.
Deliver now.
Yashana.
It even sounds like Yeshua,deliver now.
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And so they would have beendoing that, because if you read the
Talmud and their religioustexts, they understood that going
in each direction was symbolic of.
Deliver us politically.
Deliver us from our political rivals.
Deliver us in our bodies, inour minds, in our spirit.
There was complete, in total,360 degrees of deliverance.
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Before I go a step further,how many of you believe that whom
the sun sets free is free indeed?
How many of you believe thatyashana is for you and I.
Come on.
Deliver me God from my bodyand these addictions, but forgive
me of my mind and my anxiety.
Forgive me of my finances andrelease me from this.
Yashana is the promise that we have.
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The problem is this branchrepresents a promise, but you don't
get the promise without pain.
You don't get the promisewithout process.
So there's nothing wrong withdeclaring Yashana.
But there's some people whowant to be delivered but not disciplined.
There's some people, oh, it'sgetting real quiet up in here.
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I hope it's louder in theother campuses.
There's some people who wantthe absence of a demon, but not the
presence of the Holy Spirit.
There's some.
Oh, come on.
In the 2020s, when I startedgoing viral on the Internet as being
one of the demon slayers,people got plane tickets and flew
out from all over the world tocome here and.
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And they were saying, yashana,Yashana, deliver me.
Deliver me.
But some of those people havealready relapsed.
And the Bible says when ademon gets cast out, it goes roaming
around arid places and itcomes back to its home, finding that
it's been swept clean andbrings seven more with it.
So there are some people whodeclare deliver me who are in a worse
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position than before thedeliverance because they wanted deliverance,
but not discipleship.
Oh, come on.
I'll preach to you today.
Pastor Mike demon slayer.
Deliver me.
Okay, the deliverance is over.
I'll see you at church next Sunday.
Bring your Bible.
And you're serving on thecoffee team.
Oh, no, not me.
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I'm part of the ecclesia.
I'm a bishop.
I'm an apostle.
Apostles don't hand out coffee.
Come on, I'm talking tosomebody right now.
They wanted.
They wanted resurrectionwithout death.
They wanted the power of Godwithout the persecution that you
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experience.
They.
They didn't want to walk theVia Della Rosa.
They didn't want to walk thenarrow path.
They didn't.
Come on.
And this is what my life was like.
People flying out, oh, I'mgoing to V1 church.
I'm going to get my freedom.
Okay, now root yourself in V1 church.
Oh, no, no, no, I'm not goingto root myself.
Oh, no.
I'm rooted in the Bible.
I'm root.
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Well, did you skip the partwhere people were martyred to start
churches?
I'm telling you because Godwas giving an opportunity, but people
missed.
It's like you want the whitehorse experience triumphant king
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of kings, but you don't wantthe humility of riding a donkey in
down the Kidron Valley.
You want the branch, but youdon't want the cross.
You want the resurrection, butyou don't want the death.
You want the ministry, but youdon't want the servanthood.
See, there's all come on.
And that's they.
It's always the people withthe pronouns.
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They took branches of palmtrees and went out to meet him, crying
out, hosanna.
Blessed is he who comes in thename of the Lord.
Well, I'm just saying.
I mean, isn't that how Legion talk?
For we are many.
Come on now, somebody.
I'm just trying to help you today.
How many personalities am Italking to?
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You and every demon in you.
I'm trying to help somebodyright now.
There has to be a death.
There has to be deliveranceand discipleship.
You cannot be in positionuntil you're submitted to authority.
It's just.
There's something about this.
But you know what's funny iswhen you hold a deliverance service,
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people fly out.
And when you hold a churchservice, they won't even drive out.
This is the narrow road.
If I ask you to sing on theworship team, you show up to church.
But if I ask you to servecoffee to the worship team, you don't
come to church.
This is what the Americanchurch is in China, where they're
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literally being tortured.
I sat down and met with anunderground Church of China representative
when I was in Southeast Asia,and he kept telling me all about
it.
My eyes were getting all big,and I was like, oh, I'm going, man.
I'm going.
And Julie's behind me.
You're not going.
You're not going.
So as of right now, I'm notreleased by my spiritual authority
to go to China.
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But he told me, he said, mike,in China, they buy two phones.
One to keep at home as thedecoy for the find my, and the other
one to go to the undergroundchurch in a home.
They have to stagger when theyshow up to the home, and they come
in one or two at a time, andit takes them hours and hours to
accumulate to the point wherethere's enough of them gathered secretly
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to have a service.
Because if they all come tothe house at the same time, it'll
tip off the locals.
So it takes them hours andhours and hours of accumulating.
Then when they finally reach acritical mass of their underground
church, they said, mike, ifyou come to China to preach, we demand
that you preach no less thansix, six hours.
And I said, I would be inheaven because you preach for one
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hour in America.
And they say, we're not goingnext Sunday because he took too long.
You preached for four hours inChina and they said, give us two
more, cuz we could die forhearing this message.
You better make it worth it.
Maybe some of you need morepersecution in America before you
actually become a real disciple.
Maybe they need to ban itbefore you think it's cool enough
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to show up for.
And I mean, that's what'shappening right now in the United
Kingdom.
By the way, in the UnitedKingdom, there was legislation that
was just proposed that wouldmake it illegal to preach on the
streets.
And even if somebody agreesfor you to pray for them, it would
be illegal to publicly prayfor them.
And there's another countrywhere somebody went to jail for praying
in their head, across thestreet from a place where they were
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committing abortions.
Maybe we need more persecution.
Now, why do I say that?
Because I'm trying.
This is probably the worstPalm Sunday message in America right
now, but the one that isneeded the most.
Because when you tell theAmerican church that you're gonna
be wealthy, that you're gonnabe blessed and happy, you fill up
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stadiums.
But when you tell them, whowants to die with me?
Everybody stays home.
But I will tell you this.
I didn't start a churchbecause I wanted a big church.
I started a church because Icame to New York City to find the
real ones.
And I got good news.
I found the real ones in Brooklyn.
I found the real ones in Manhattan.
I found the real ones in New Jersey.
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I found the real ones in Miami.
And we might be.
There might be 10 millionpeople out this door, and there might
be a thousand here.
But I'll tell you what.
Give me Gideon's army, becauseI can do more with the real ones.
Come on, give me 300 real ones.
I'll do more than 300,000 fakeones any day of the week.
So this is the day they tookbranches of palms and they went out
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to meet him, crying out hosanna.
And here's what's crazy.
The same crowd that shoutedDeliver us later shouted, crucify
him.
Oh, I found this church.
It's called V1 Church.
Oh, you don't understand thatPastor, he came off the stage and
laid hands on me and prayedfor me.
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He's so relatable that I'mtelling you.
Oh, it was.
And you know what?
He let service go long andprophesied over us for an hour.
And I was just bawling my eyes out.
And he gave us some Greekwords and Hebrew words and a little
bit of his story.
And he relatable and he does Spanglish.
I just love it.
Oh, and he has a YouTube wherehe talks about Leviathan and he talks
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about Jezebel and Ahab and heeven talks about the Nephilim.
Oh, I knew he was my favorite pastor.
He even talks about the Nephilim.
My last pastor would nevertalk about the Nephilim.
My last pastor never prophesied.
My last pastor never came offthe stage.
Oh, Mike, I love him.
Him.
Six months later, terriblepastor, doesn't know what he's doing
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at all.
Oh, yeah, And Eddie, let metell you, he's even worse.
Eddie, I don't care what theysay about you.
I love you.
I'm just.
Oh, and then his mom.
Have you seen her on the Internet?
Sandra?
Who does she think she is,wearing all those hats like she's
French, Huh?
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I just gotta have fun with my mom.
We love you.
Why do I say this, though?
Because this is how they are.
They.
They will.
They will cry hosanna one weekand crucify the next.
It'll be the best church andthe worst church.
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Even though the church neverchanged their perspective because
they were never seen in the spirit.
They were always seen in theflesh, or they were always seeing
in the soulish realm.
So the only thing that changedis there is them.
But Jesus remains the same tothose that even switch it up.
Because he said eventually,when they're saying crucify him,
he's saying, forgive them, forthey know not what they do.
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And so here's my heart posturetowards you, even though I was playing.
Even though I was playing andI was trying to have a little fun
with it.
Don't eat your pastor for lunch.
Because people will go tochurch on Sunday and then eat their
pastor for lunch.
What does that mean?
That means that how are you?
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How are blessings and cursesgonna come out of the same mouth?
Oh, well, I'm just.
I'm not criticizing.
I'm evaluating.
Come on.
The devil is a liar.
But why do I say this?
Because people are fickle.
People who don't see in thespirit, people who have their mind
made up about the way thingsshould be.
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And you know what?
Cancel culture is worse in thechurch than it is in the world.
But see, wherever there's theculture of honor.
See, the thing is, I find itinteresting because if you go back
to the verses, they call himking, but they don't necessarily
have a full revelation.
Remember when Jesus turned andsaid, who do you say I am?
See, here's the thing.
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I'm praying that our churchbegins to see each other for who
they really are, not whatpeople say they are, not even what
your wound says they are, notwhat your wound says that you are.
See, here's the thing, andwe're gonna go a little bit deeper
right now.
In Matthew, chapter 27, verse22, Pilate said, then what shall
I do with Jesus, who's calledthe Christ?
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So even Pilate, who is asecular politician, said, y'all call
him the Christ, and whatshould I do with this guy?
And this is what they said.
They look, here it is.
There's the pronoun people.
They said, let him be crucified.
And he said, why?
What evil has he done?
But they shouted all the more,let him be crucified.
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And this is how you'll getthose kind of people that their evaluation
is always connected tosomething that's not even sin.
They couldn't even properlyrespond with what Jesus did.
And that's the evidence thatthey were operating from a preference,
because it's like, how did he sin?
Well, we don't know, Cruz.
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Kill him, though.
We're not here to make things better.
We're here to destroy them.
That same spirit is alsotrying to destroy the bride of Christ.
I can tell you what I don'tlike, even if it's not sin, but I'm
here to declare death, not life.
See?
And this is that spirit that'sbehind it.
And it's real quiet right now,but I'm just offending every demon
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in hell, and I'm okay with it.
Because the same spirit thatwas behind crucifying Christ, if
you follow the story of Judas,who was the purse holder of the disciples,
the Bible gives an accountthat when Judas was offended at the
way that that woman with herlavish generosity, just poured that
oil upon Jesus, it said thatout of that offense that Satan forcibly
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entered his heart.
And you remember, it wasn'tjust the crowd that crucified Jesus.
It was Jesus, CFO because hewas mad about how the money was being
spent.
As a matter of fact, the Biblealso gives account that Judas was
casting demons out before hebetrayed Jesus.
So that means even somebodythat did deliverance around them
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actually had a demon come upin the inside of them.
I got a revelation for some of you.
Sometimes you're dealing withthe crowd, and sometimes you're dealing
with a Judas.
But you're always dealing withthe spirit behind the crowd and Judas.
And I'm clapping back at thedemon behind all of it, saying, you
will not kill that which Godhas designated to go forth in the
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earth.
And that same spirit of murderain't gonna come up here and rob
what God has.
Because they're always crying,crucify him.
And they're never crying, God,crucify me.
Yeah, that part.
Come on, make her a deacon.
Print it out right now in theback before service is over.
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Girl.
Y'all hear what I'm saying?
They were so willing, see,they wanted Jesus to be their president.
That's the way of thinkingabout it.
It'd be like all of usmarching to Capitol Hill right now
and be like, we're done withyou, Donald.
We want Jesus in.
That's how literal it was.
Then when they found out hecame riding on a donkey, not riding
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on a horse, and that he was asuffering servant instead of being
a politician, they got mad andsaid, yeah, just go ahead and kill
him.
Why?
Because we're done using him.
And that's how a lot of people.
Oh, the church helped me getdelivered from my anxiety and my.
Oh, oh, my.
The church helped me get through.
I'm done using it.
So crucify it.
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See, is the point crucifixionor is the point covenant?
Crucifixion is a stop on thedestination to covenant.
And there's these people thatwere crying, crucify him.
But they didn't realize thatto be a disciple, the real cry is,
crucify me as Christ was crucified.
In other words, show me how todie so I can die like you.
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This is what the Lord's tryingto get into each and every one of
you.
And so watch.
They wanted a political king,but he came as a suffering servant.
They wanted crowns, but hecame with a cross.
Everybody wants the crown.
Nobody wants the cross.
The real question is, will yoube willing to go through the cross
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to get the crown?
This is the heart of a true disciple.
You know, people say, acceptJesus Christ and you'll be healthy
and wealthy and happy.
Well, let me just tell you this.
The end destination is thatyou'll be healthy, whether it's on
this life or the other side.
The end destination is thatyou'll have joy in the fullness of
joy.
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The end destination is thatyou're gonna have abundance and overflow.
So they're only half tellingthe truth when they tell the gospel.
But the thing is, the gospelwithout the cross and only a crown
is actually no gospel at all.
But then I would say on theconverse, the gospel with a cross
but no crown is also no gospelat all.
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It's Both, but it's how youget them and when you get them.
So let's talk about thisbranch right now.
So you all got a branch inyour hand at every location.
In ancient times, this branchrepresented victory.
As a matter of fact, it's likewhen nascar.
Because I'm half hillbilly,you know, when nascar.
So when you got the NASCAR andyou're there.
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Am I right, Mom?
Mama.
The nascar, when they comeover that finish line, my favorite
thing is watching people inNew York City with their windows
rolled down, listening tocountry music.
That's a phenomenon here inthe city.
Some of you, it's you.
It's like they got the carwindows rolled down and they're driving
past and they're like fullythugged out.
And the song's like, my dogdied, my wife died, everybody died.
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And I'm seeing them just singit out.
And I'm like, you don't knownothing about that country life.
Nothing about that.
And they're like, yeah, but Iwas in the military for a while,
and, you know, all myhillbilly friends turned me onto
this.
You know, here's my point iswhen you're thinking about.
When you're thinking about allthis, okay, when you're thinking
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about the crown and the cross,when you have this moment, and hopefully
this hits home, okay, when youhave this moment where God is trying
to take you through the valleyof death, there's going to be despair,
there's going to behopelessness, there's going to be
sorrow.
But sorrow is not a cycle.
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It's a season.
And he will take you throughthat process.
And when you look at this,what this represented more was a
promise and a process.
This represented what comes onthe other side.
So when you have nascar, andall of a sudden when the first car
crosses and wins, they wavethat flag.
So in ancient times, thiswould represent, like a checkered
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flag.
So when you go into, like.
Even the temples that theywould build would have etched in
stone palm branches, becausethe palm branch is represented.
This temple is a place of victory.
This is when we celebrate victory.
So when Jesus was coming downthat Kidron Valley and they were
waving these palm branches, itwas like they were celebrating too
soon.
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They were celebrating with.
They were like acting as ifthe promise is instant without a
process, that victory canhappen without death.
They did not understand theway of the kingdom.
And I just feel led to saythis right now.
Cause there's many of you thathave been indoctrinated into American
weak, flimsy, watered downLukewarm Christianity, powerless.
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A form of godliness thatdenies the power thereof.
Religious, critical faultfinding, consumeristic Christianity.
And the best way I candisciple you out of that is to cause
you to go through a dyingexperience with me.
And I'm telling you, it is oneof the best things you can ever do
in your life.
Death comes in many forms.
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So let's put the promise aside.
Cause this is the end result.
This is the process.
Let's talk about this.
Death comes in many forms fora believer.
What am I talking about right now?
Well, however you want to liveis how you have to die.
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So let me talk about myself.
The reason why I sweat so muchwhen I preach is because I've been
preaching since I was 15 years old.
And I still get nervous and Istill don't like it.
And I still.
This is.
And my wife, everybody knows this.
Death to me is.
I want to be alone.
I don't want to be with ally'all because you scare me.
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I'm telling your opinions,your comments, your criticisms, how
mean hearted you can be, howsavage you can be, how loveless.
Some of y'all will.
You're the kind of people thatwill see something I post on Instagram
and scroll through it and thenwish Kim Kardashian Happy Birthday.
In your stories, that's real.
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I will literally fast for you,pray for you, anoint you, give you
money out of my own wallet,and you'll scroll past something
I post.
And then in your stories,happy birthday, Kim.
I love you.
That's Christians for you.
I'm just telling you straightup, that's Christians.
That's Christians.
Somebody will deliver you from demons.
You throw up all over theirnew shirt.
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You cry.
I got so many shirts with yourmakeup right here.
And then someone's like, oh,yes, V1 your church.
I don't know.
I'm like, I was just weepingwith you for two hours.
This is what I'm saying.
This is why for me.
For me, death comes in theform of putting myself out there
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to get rejected, to bemisunderstood, for my motives, to
constantly be challenged, nomatter how pure I think they are.
I put myself out there becauseI don't want to do this.
I literally don't.
My wife will tell you it'syour fault I tried to quit ministry.
That's how this whole thing started.
We were sitting in the car andI said, julie, I don't want to do
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this.
These people are fake.
They're savage, they're mean.
I'm introverted.
I still get scared Every timeI go on stage.
And she was like, we're gonnago to New York.
We're gonna launch thatchurch, just like, God told you.
So this is ultimately your fault.
I'm mad at you, but I had tochoose the cross.
The cross says, all right,Lord, here I go.
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Well, didn't they cancel you again?
But they canceled you too, Jesus.
Weren't they critical of you?
But they were critical of you, Jesus.
But then on the flip side,let's talk about somebody else.
I know some people that are extroverts.
And you know who some of you are.
And you love being the limelight.
You love being the center of attention.
And matter of fact, I can'tfigure out, as an introvert, I can't
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figure out why you're alwaysso excited.
And it kind of annoys me.
You're the person that's like,hey, how you going?
Good morning.
You know somebody like that,Good morning, good morning, good
morning.
You know those people, it'slike every time they say, like, ugh,
good morning.
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You know that person at work,good morning.
You're like, you must not beas broke as I am.
Cause it's not a.
It's bad morning, Bad morning.
But here's the thing.
The person who wants thelimelight, the person who wants to
be the center of attention,the person who wants to be seen,
the person who wants themicrophone, that death for them comes
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in the form of obscurity.
Death for them comes in theform of isolation.
So for me, death comes in theform of getting on stage in front
of everybody every day of my life.
And that for me, is death,because I don't wanna do it.
So.
But then on the flip side,what happens is that death for somebody
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else might come in the form ofobscurity where they have to go.
And they need the coffee teambecause they need.
And they need to be the mostpowerful preacher in America that's
serving coffee that nobodyheard of until they fully die to
that desire to be seen.
So that when they finally getbrought on the stage, they know how
to deflect God's glory insteadof absorb it.
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Does this make sense?
Because watch.
Oh, I'm gonna show you something.
If I'm an introvert who deniesmy calling to preach, that's called
false humility.
Then if I'm an extrovert whodoesn't go the process of death and
then begin to preach, that's pride.
So sometimes you can be on oneend of the spectrum of false humility
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and pride.
And so what happens is this.
This is how God does it.
The promise is often concealedwith a process.
And he offers you the initiation.
Take the cross.
Take the cross.
Take the cross.
I don't want the cross, Lord, please.
No, I don't want.
I want to be an entrepreneur.
You're a pastor.
No, I'm not.
I'm an entrepreneur.
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You're a pastor.
Lord, I want to be alone, gowith people, be in a crowd.
Then I do that.
Then all of a sudden, theresurrection power begins to hit
me.
The anointing begins to comeupon me.
We fill up Times Square.
We fill up the breakers.
We start a college, seven churches.
And the whole time I'm like,lord, I don't like this.
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I don't like this.
I don't like this.
And he's saying, yashana,Yashana, Yashana.
Then you go back and you'reserving coffee, and they don't even
see who I am.
That other ministry would havemade me a bishop in 14 days.
Come on.
I'm going to start a ministrythat'll make you a bishop in 12 hours.
Let's see how fast it grows.
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They don't see who I am.
Then you.
But.
But I'm.
But not my will.
Thy will.
Oh, I don't want to even wakeup for coffee.
They keep going through the process.
But not my will.
Thy will.
You keep going through thecross, and guess what happens?
And here's how you know you'redone with your process.
Are you ready?
Because when the Lord goes tomake that exchange, he goes, remember,
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victory.
It's time now.
It's time for you to preach.
Oh, no, Lord.
I don't know if I'm ready.
I'm still selfish.
Oh, no, Lord.
I'm still going for theapproval of man.
Oh, no, Lord.
I don't see how you'll knowyou're ready.
Is that when you went throughthe process, you still don't feel
ready when he calls you.
That's actually how you knowand see, God is trying to get you
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a palm branch.
And that is the end of the story.
But it looks like death.
And death comes in manydifferent forms for you.
If you've been raised inpoverty, you're like me, where you
want to keep as much money aspossible, because who knows what's
going to happen with tariffsand all this crazy stuff and the
hiring structures change.
But what will happen is rightin the midst of that, the Lord will
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say, be a river, not a reservoir.
Release those finances, andthat for you is death.
Then there's somebody thatgives all their money.
And the Lord's like, I needyou to save your money.
I need you to steward it andinvest it.
And you're like, oh no, Lord,death comes in many different forms.
Do you understand what I'm saying?
Do you receive that?
Okay, let me show you something.
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Jesus was consistent.
He didn't live from a father wound.
I want to talk to you aboutthe father wound because this is
ultimately the problem.
Let's talk about finances.
If you had a father that nevermade enough money, there's a high
likelihood that that fear offinances was transmitted to you.
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And it's not that you want tobe selfish, but it's that you have
a mechanism that says to hoardin the case of famine.
Let me tell you why I don'thave a six pack.
I've been going deep on this.
I rebuke everybody laughingright now.
I rebuke every single one of you.
I'm coming back fromsabbatical and I'm going to shock
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and all you, even if I have todo it chemically, I don't even care.
But let me tell you, because,you know, I wrote a book about epigenetics.
I wrote an entire book aboutgenerational inheritance and I studied
a lot for it.
And one of the things I wasrecently looking at is that from
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an ancestral standpoint, ifyou know, and this is before modern
civilization, oftentimesbecause there was agricultural society
with hunting, food was scarce.
So everybody who had anadaptation to store as much fat as
possible were the ones thatsurvived scarcity to pass their genes
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on.
So it's only been the lasthundred years to 150 years where
there's been abundance of food everywhere.
So historically there has notbeen this much food available.
So whoever had the geneticpredisposition to make as much storage
with the least amount of foodis who survived to go to the next
generation.
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So congratulations for all ofus without six pack abs.
We're the survivors.
You like how I flip that?
But the problem is.
Okay, follow me.
The problem is what becomes abenefit in one generation becomes
a liability in the other.
And see what happens is whenyou store in the midst of abundance,
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you end up fat, which leads tocardiac problems, diabetes, all these
other various things that can happen.
And what is a benefit inscarcity becomes the thing that destroys
you in abundance.
So then it's like when theLord is asking you to sow, but you
come from multiple generationsof scarcity, you're doing a mechanism
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that's going to disease yoursoul just like food can disease your
body.
Am I helping anybody?
Are you?
Are you?
I know you're not shoutingbecause you don't want to come into
agreement with any of this,but do you feel what I'm trying to
put down?
So what that means is as yougo through this, Jesus was consistent.
He didn't live from a father wound.
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So we have to go back and say,lord, what did I inherit?
Lord, what did I receive?
Lord, what is the thing thatthey did to survive?
But that survival mechanismhas become a self sabotaging mechanism.
So is it survival or is it sabotage?
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And behold, a voice fromheaven said, this is my beloved son
with whom I'm well pleased.
I want you to look at this.
A voice from heaven.
Everybody say this phrase, avoice from heaven.
How many of you know thescriptures are very intentional?
The voice didn't come fromearth, the voice came from heaven.
Some of you, the evidence ofyour father wound is that you are
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looking from for a voice fromthe earth, not listening to the voice
from heaven.
Now what did the voice fromheaven say?
This is my beloved Son, withwhom I am well pleased.
Let me ask you this question,biblical scholars.
At the point chronologicallyin the story of Jesus, when this
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scripture was written, whenthis moment actually occurred, what
had Jesus Christ accomplished?
Come on, biblical scholars, nothing.
This is deeply convicting.
At this point, Jesus had castout no demons.
At this point, Jesus hadhealed no sick people that we know
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of.
At this point, he had not been preaching.
This was actually the momentafter he was baptized.
He comes up out of the waterand to inaugurate the beginning of
his ministry, God says, thisis my beloved son who am well pleased.
I want to talk to the men.
We're almost done.
To every single man under thesound of my voice at all campuses
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right now, I want you to knowthat you are seen by God.
Let me talk to you about whathappens to a man when a man does
not receive the affirmation ofhis biological father.
When a man does not receivethe visibility of, hey you, you're
doing a good job without itbeing connected to performance.
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He will spend his entire lifeperforming to get visibility.
And I wanna explain this to you.
One of the worst things thatever happened to me, as well as one
of the best things was BoyScouts of America, because my mother
said he doesn't have a father.
So I'm gonna enroll him in BoyScouts of America.
And when you're in thatprogram, they have a book.
And each stage you doaccomplishments, and those accomplishments
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are rewarded with Badges.
So I was in Troop 232 inHammond, Indiana.
And I would do the book, andthey would say, you're gonna get
this badge and this badge.
And I love sewing those badgesonto my little uniform.
And I kept getting more andmore and more and more.
Then I had a sash, and theyput badges on the sash.
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Then I had pins, and they putpins on the.
I mean, it was crazy.
Finally, one day, my mom and Iget a notification from Troop 232.
And they say, we wanna have adinner in honor of your son.
And I was like, what are youtalking about?
You remember this?
And we had no idea what wasgoing on.
We show up for the dinner, andthey say, guys, we're here to honor
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Mike Signorelli's accomplishment.
He's received the most badgesof anybody in the history of Troop
232.
And at that time, everybody's clapping.
I remember being little, like,looking around the room like, what
is this all about?
Let me explain why.
That was one of the worstthings ever happened to me.
Because I did not have afather in my home.
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So there was a mechanism in methat was the more I accomplish, then,
the more people acknowledge me.
That is dangerous.
Because then what happens withthose same men who get that mechanism
is they think, if I don'taccomplish, I don't have value.
If I don't accomplish, I don'thave worth.
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So there's two paths that men take.
Number one is they take thepath of trying to accomplish as much
as they can to get as muchvisibility because they didn't receive
the affirmation of their father.
And they try to grow big bankaccounts, big muscles, big awards.
They try to do things, to dowhatever they can to be seen.
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That's why you go in the streets.
And even the thugs, thebiggest earrings, the biggest chains,
the car that they have, thebiggest truck.
Why?
It's visibility.
They need to be seen.
There's some tattoos are aform of visibility.
I got a whole sleeve of them.
I know some of you are gonnaleave the church today after you
found that out.
I preach in long sleeves, so Idon't catch the heat.
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I got a whole sleeve of tattoos.
But what is it?
For some people, it's meaningful.
But some people, it's a deepermeaning of, look at me, See me.
See how tough I am.
See how bad I am.
We do all these things toposture ourselves for visibility,
but it goes back to the rootof the father wound.
I'm speaking into somethingbecause you're about to get Free,
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you're five minutes away from freedom.
But then there's the other endof the spectrum.
That same father wound willpush some men to say, because I know
it's fake, because I know theonly reason they did that dinner
for Mike Signorelli wasbecause he got all those badges.
I don't want to get any badges.
Does this make sense?
It's almost like.
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Because they look at.
It's like, oh, because peopleonly love them because they have
money.
I don't care if I have any money.
Because they only love thembecause they have a nice car and
a big chain.
I don't care if I have a nicecar or a big chain.
And a guy will literally go on.
Two ends of the spectrumbecause of a father wound.
They'll either get real loudor real quiet, or sometimes they
oscillate between both.
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Men live with crippling depression.
And most men have never feltlike they have value independent
of their accomplishments, because.
And look what.
This is what happened.
And behold, a voice fromheaven said, this is my beloved son
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with whom I am well pleased.
And God the father connectedhis pleasure with his son to no accomplishments.
To be honest with you, beforeI became a theologian, if you would
have asked me, where does thisscripture happen in the Bible, I
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would have said, this happensafter Jesus dies on the cross.
This is my son who I'm wellpleased because he did what I told
him to do.
But God loves different than man.
God says, this is my beloved son.
I don't love him for approval,but I love him from approval because
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he's mine.
I remember I was in prayeryears ago, and I saw in the spirit
my boy scouts of Americauniform, and it was covered in all
those badges.
And I said, lord, why do youkeep showing me this?
Because the Lord says, mike,I'm getting ready to make you successful
now, But I need you to takeoff all your accomplishments and
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strip it all down.
And I need you to know that Iloved you at your darkest.
I need you to know that Ibelieved in you when nobody else
did.
And I died for you while youwere yet a sinner.
And I put my whole life on the line.
And nothing you'll everaccomplish will ever be in response
to my love, but it willactually be because of my love.
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And the Lord began to ministerto me and love on me.
And I went through what'scalled an ego death.
This happened about over 10years ago now.
And I went to the kidsdepartment, and I begin to serve
and I begin to work and Ibegin to sow seeds into the children
of that ministry who willnever remember the words I said.
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But the seeds were eternal.
And some of the most powerfulministry I've ever done in my life
happened in complete and totalobscurity because I said, lord, I
don't care who I hear from inthis dimension, because there's a
voice from heaven that I hearaffirming me so to every man under
the sound of my voice.
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It's a bonus if your wifetells you you're doing a good job.
It's a bonus if your bosstells you you're doing a good job.
But I want you to hear in thespirit right now that your heavenly
Father is telling you, this ismy beloved Son, whom I'm well pleased,
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because this is.
This is the way of the cross.
Jesus was not going to thecross for approval.
He was going to the cross froma place of I'm already approved.
I can lose nothing.
I can lose nothing because Ialready have everything which is
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his voice.
I want to show you the meaning.
Now.
Jesus was affirmed before heever did a miracle.
He was called Son before thecrowd ever called him King.
He didn't need to defendHimself before Pilate.
He didn't chase the crowd whenthey turned on him.
And he didn't need applause tostay obedient.
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Let me just tell you, if youlive by their praises, you'll die
by their criticisms.
Let me just tell you, there'sa lot of preachers that can't preach
what the Holy Ghost told themto preach, because nobody will clap
in this dimension.
But when you can hear yourHeavenly Father clapping, you might
only hear one person clapping,but that one person is your Father.
And that's louder than athousand people.
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Come on, you hear what I'm saying.
And there's something aboutthat authority, that realm of authority.
Like the way you can speakboldly is you're not living in response
to this dimension, but youhear his voice from heaven and you
also hear him applauding youfrom heaven.
And so that empowers you tonot be a people pleaser, but to know
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that you are one that pleasesthe Father.
And when you live from thatplace, look at what happens next.
It says In Isaiah, chapter 53,verse 3, he was despised and rejected
by men.
A man of sorrows andacquainted with grace, grief.
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Being a Christian is probablygoing to be lonely.
I think a lot of pastors justtry to hype you up.
But I think the hype comesafter the Via Dela Rosa death, then
resurrection.
And when I look at this, itdoesn't say, Jesus was walking around
always happy, always havingthe best day.
It said he was despised and rejected.
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By who?
By men.
See, here's the thing.
I want to liberate you.
You don't have anything toprove to anybody.
Like, see, God alone canpromote you, which means that no
man can demote you.
So the good news that I gotfor you is that if you walk this
narrow path, whether thatmeans serving in coffee, serving
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in kids, whatever that thing,death comes in many different forms.
Whether it means stepping intoevangelism, even though you're deathly
afraid to talk to people, asyou begin to go on this journey,
you're gonna experience beingdespised and rejected by man.
And it even says, a man of sorrows.
You know, I was thinking aboutmy children the other day.
I was thinking about thegenerations the other day.
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And it's like, man, I don'tknow if anybody can bear witness
with this, but life is hard.
Can anybody say Amen to that?
Life is hard.
Life is very hard.
Life is filled with difficulties.
Life is filled with mountainsand valleys.
Life is filled with unexpected tragedies.
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Life is hard.
Life is hard.
There's some times where all Ican do is write poetry because only
poetry is powerful enough forthe pain.
There's times where all I cando is groan and travail.
There's times where all I cando is sit in silence.
There's all.
There's just.
There's sometimes where lifejust doesn't make sense for my pea
sized little brain.
But I think about Christ, whois fully man and also fully God.
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And he was in literally thegarden of Gethsemane with his like
his sweat turning to blood.
It was the human part of himthat was in anguish.
Even though his spirit waswilling, the flesh was what.
So we all deal with that.
He lived and died for peoplewho never fully understood him.
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This is God's calling for your life.
People will try to find newcircles where they're appreciated.
I'm gonna match their energythis year.
Well, thank God that Jesusnever matched your energy.
Because when you were crying,crucify him.
He was crying, forgive them,for they know not what they see.
Jesus never matched energy.
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Some people say I'm going tomatch energy.
I'm only.
I'm going to.
No, no, no.
Jesus, thank God, he didn'tmatch energy.
As a matter of fact, hetreated me the opposite of the way
I treated him.
See, this is what we have tobe as Christians.
If I was going to match newYork's energy.
I would reject them when theyreject me.
If I was going to match churchpeople's energy, I would gossip about
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them when they gossip about me.
We don't match energy.
We match the Holy Spirit.
And when he says forgive, we forgive.
When he says serve, we serve.
When he says show up, we show up.
I didn't come to New York Cityto match their energy.
I came here to change it inJesus name.
I came here to be different.
I'm a peculiar people.
I'm a royal priesthood.
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I'm a chosen generation.
I'm not matching your energy.
And the Lord's been convicting me.
They reject, but I embrace andI go after them.
It's got to be a you.
Only way you fight a spirit isby an opposite spirit.
You don't fight rejection with rejection.
That's why the church is ashoeless army fighting each other
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right now because they'rematching each other's energy.
Put on the shoe.
Come on.
Lace up your boots.
Put on your backpack.
It's time to ride.
Put on the shoes to spread the gospel.
And let's stop matching energyand let's start using our energy
to subdue the nations.
Let's do.
He lived and died for peoplewho never fully understood him.
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Your next level is on theother side of your willingness to
die.
Your next level is on your willingness.
Oh, can I tell him?
We've had some conversationswith our pastoral team and they've
called me Pastor Mike.
You know, it's so hard, andI've been like, all right, let's
stop.
Let's pray for them right now.
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You know how hard it is.
Next time you want to talk badabout somebody, let blessings come
out of your.
Didn't Jesus say, bless those who.
He didn't say match their enemy.
Otherwise you'd be cursing.
See if an eye for an eye makesthe whole world blind.
So the next time you want tocurse them, do what?
Bless them.
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The next time you want to pushthem away, do what?
Pull them closer the next time.
See, this is.
This is.
And Jesus said, father,forgive them.
Look, forgive them, for theyknow not what they do.
Hey, New York, I know youdon't understand what I came here
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to do.
I know that there's a swingersclub across the street from this
venue and.
And you're in there destroyingyour marriage.
But I came here to reconcileit and heal it.
Hey, New York, you might bemaking fun of us.
You think I'm bigoted andsmall minded because what I say about
sexuality, but this is anancient path.
And I'm here to tell you thatGod can transform you.
Hey, people down in the clubthat are burning their brains out
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with drugs.
I know what it's like to tryto forget because of the pain.
But God can go to the root andheal it.
I'm not here to match your energy.
I'm not going to do drugs with you.
I'm going to elevate you to ahigher height and a deeper depth
than you ever had.
I'm here, Father, forgivethem, for they know not what they
do.
I'm not here to collaborate.
I'm here to conquer.
We're going to the next level.
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Let me talk to you about themeaning of the branch.
Now as we close, let's talkabout the meaning of the branch because
there's a cry of desperation.
You know, today's been adifferent kind of sermon and it's
been really quiet.
Cause we have a whole bunch ofvisitors and people who are challenged
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by the message.
But today I think is acharacter builder.
Because the biggest threat toChristianity in this next season
is not going to be other religions.
It's going to be Christiansthat are nothing like Christ.
It's going to be true lightversus false light.
That's the biggest threat toChristianity right now.
Do you burn or do you glow?
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Artificial light glows, butreal light has a sweet smelling savor.
There's a burning.
There's logs on the fire.
We're called to be a living.
Oh, come on.
Three of you know the Bible.
We're called to be a living.
Thank you.
Where's the sacrifice though?
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If the, if the world gossipsand you gossip, where's the sacrifice?
Where's the death?
If you love to talk bad aboutpeople, then a form of death is for
you to talk is to actuallyprophesy who they are in the spirit,
not who they are in the flesh.
Where's the sacrifice?
Where's the sacrifice?
Where is the sacrifice ifwe're called to be the burning ones?
I don't want to glow.
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See, when you glow, it's whenyou, when you put the right things
on Instagram, when you put thescripture, when you put the Christian.
Oh yeah, you glow on a screen,but you don't burn in the private
place, in the secret place of prayer.
You glow on a screen.
This is what I'm talking about.
We need Christians that soundlike Christ, that sacrifice like
Christ, that die like Christ,that bless our enemies, like Christ,
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that serve the least of these,like Christ.
That is what this world needs.
And I'm preaching this sermon,and some of y'all may never come
back.
But give me the real ones thatwant to burn that glow.
Give me the real ones that say.
I want to be a burning one.
Because I'm telling you, it hurts.
It hurts.
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It hurts.
When Jesus was gettingcrucified, it hurt.
You ever think about that?
He was a physical body.
It hurt.
In what ways have you allowedyourself to be hurt for righteousness?
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It hurts when they're talkingbad about you, and then you go to
the Father and say, father,bless them, Father.
I bless them as well.
I prophesy over them, Lord.
It hurts.
It hurts to look at your bankaccount and say, I know the scripture
says, seek first the kingdom,then all these things, but I want
to put the kingdom number three.
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It hurts to put it in number one.
But I'll tell you what, thisis the palm branch.
It's the promise.
It's the promise.
It's the promise.
They were waving this thingtoo soon.
They waved the palm branch forvictory over Rome.
But Jesus used the cross forvictory over sin and death.
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I think it's very similarright now.
This is a promise.
This is a promise.
And this is a thing for allthose that, during the pandemic,
flew out.
Oh, Mike the demon slayer.
He's going to cast demons outof me.
Nothing wrong with wanting tobe free, but.
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But having.
There is no resurrectionwithout death.
There is no true freedomwithout there being true pain.
There has to be a sacrifice.
There has to be discipleship.
There has to be rootingyourself in the house of God.
There has to be giving,serving all these things.
But it's the least popularthing to preach about, but the very
thing we need the most.
But this is the promise.
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The promise is, if you'rewilling to go through that process,
look what will happen.
Look what will happen, everysingle one of you.
If you're a true believer, youare in the Bible, and there's a picture
of you in scripture.
I'm talking about physically, you.
I was thinking about Aaron asI was preparing for this sermon.
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And you know Aaron's past.
Aaron's father, yourbiological father, is the lead pastor
of a church, and we honor himand we honor his faithful.
Years of decades of serving onLong Island, 20 years of serving
as a pastor on Long Island.
But you believed that therewas more to the things of the spirit
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and had to make a very harddecision, and you joined our church.
And it's like I became afather in the faith to you.
But it's lonely because someof your biggest accomplishments in
the faith.
You can't even necessarilyshare them with your own family because
they don't understand.
And there's some of myfavorite memories in my entire life
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are looking over and justseeing you going absolutely, absolutely
ballistic, playing your heartout before 20 people, 2,000 people.
It's never mattered to you.
I think about us, you know,that day that the glory of the Lord
came into this place, and, youknow, you were groaning and travailing,
and then you started singingin tongues.
It was so anointed.
And then we put it on theInternet with me open mouth, crying.
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And the whole team justdisrespected me by putting that out
there.
But it's fine.
But bless those who curse you.
And then me and you.
I mean, I'm thinking about thetimes we were in Manhattan, the times
we've been here in Brooklyn.
You know what you do?
Every time he wants to take itto the next level spiritually, he
just forces me on the drums.
I want to end it.
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And he's.
I'm trying to end the service.
He's like, no, you're not.
No, you're not.
You know what you do?
You know what you do?
He's my apostle back there.
Because as soon as he startsbuilding the drums, like, all right,
Lord, I surrender.
Let's keep going.
But this is what it's like.
And then, you know, I'm justtelling you, you're a bad player.
This guy shreds the guitar,flails around like a wild man.
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Red Hot Chili Peppers hasnothing on you.
And you.
And.
But.
But, you know, you love the Lord.
And I've.
And some of my greatestmemories have been even just watching
you literally on your kneesbefore the Lord, worshiping.
Same thing with the keys.
Like, you know, you come offlike a quiet guy, but we speak this
language internally becauseall musicians speak a language.
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And there's so many Sundayswhere you'll see me look back at
him, and I know that he knowsbecause he's spiritually led and
we're going there together.
And you're playing the keysand releasing.
Why do I say this?
Because to be a Christian,even surrounded by people, there's
a loneliness, there's a despair.
Jesus himself was a man wellacquainted with sorrows.
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So even in those moments,there's something that each one of
these men are carrying that isa sorrow.
It's grief to them.
But we worship.
We worship.
Now, these people that wereworshiping in the.
In the story I started withwhen they were crying out, yashana,
deliver me.
Some of them were putting ademand and they were waving a wave,
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not a palm branch.
But then there's others thattruly are saying, lord, I die to
self.
I crucify myself, God, I.
I'm.
I'm laying it all down before you.
And there's a pure worshipthat comes from sacrifice.
And this is how this story ends.
I want to show you this rightnow in Revelation, chapter 7, verse
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9.
You are in the Bible if you'rea true believer.
This is what it says.
After this, I looked and behold.
Everybody say, behold.
Behold means to really focusand look at this thing.
It says, a great multitude.
See, this is a multitude.
You might be lonely in yourfamily right now for serving the
Lord, but a great Puerto Rican multitude.
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This is the scripture.
Come on, telling somebody.
A Dominican multitude.
Come on.
I'm talking to a societyBrazilian multitude.
Come on, talking to somebody.
An African multitude, aBritish multitude, an Australian
multitude, a great.
A New York multitude, anIndiana multitude.
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And a great multitude was onthe other side.
And this is what it says.
Standing before the throne andbefore the Lamb, the Lamb clothed
in white robes.
With palm branches in their hand.
And they said, I may havedied, but death did not have the
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final victory.
The palm was the promise.
I'm in a white robe.
Nobody's in a wheelchair.
Nobody's got diabetes.
Nobody has cancer.
There is no degenerative diseases.
I'm in.
I'm next to Aaron in a white robe.
I'm next to you in a white robe.
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I don't know who I'm talkingto, but the cross was only a season.
Oh, come on.
I'm standing in a white robe.
No Huntington's disease, noParkinson's disease, no dementia.
I'm standing in a white robe.
Who am I talking to?
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Every disease, every sicknesswashed by the.
Blood of the lamb.
No liver disease, no heart disease.
I'm standing in a white robesaying, victoria, Victoria standing
with the white robe.
Who am I talking to?
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Because I was willing to diefor him.
I get to live for him forever.
God, teach me how to die.
A Teach me how to die.
I want the pain.
I want to feel the pain for you.
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Hey.
Oh, I'm talking to somebody now.
Hey.
The only difference betweenthem cheating on their wives that.
That's across the street issaying, God, teach me how to die
to self.
Not my will, but thy will.
The only difference betweenthose two getting drunk down the
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street is God, teach me to suffer.
Well, I want.
But I got a good news for you.
Those that.
Oh, those that say I may notdrink ever again on this side.
Will actually share in thelamb's supper.
And we will drink again.
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And I'm gonna look at you andsay, mazel tov.
It's time to drink again.
Let's turn up, Yashana.
Let's turn up.