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September 22, 2025 85 mins

What happens when faith, politics, and cultural divides collide? In this thought-provoking conversation, Mike Erre and Tim Stafford explore Charlie Kirk as a person, a symbol, and a cultural marker. Is he a champion for Christian values or a polarizing figure in today's culture wars? This episode dives into the complexities of navigating cultural challenges, the role of the church in society, and the nuanced intersections of faith and politics. 

The hosts critically examine Turning Point USA's mission, its connections to Christianity, and the implications of blending biblical principles with political ideologies. They challenge the idea of "Christian nationalism" and question whether the gospel is being redefined in service of cultural power. Themes of cruciformity, love for neighbors and enemies, and the countercultural way of Jesus are central to this discussion.

Join us as we unpack whether the church should engage in culture wars or embody a different way—faithful to Jesus’ teachings of humility, justice, and hope. We encourage you to reflect, share your thoughts, and engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. Let’s pursue understanding together as we navigate these challenging and important questions about faith and our cultural moment. 

CHAPTERS:
00:00 - Why We're Not Doing The Lord's Prayer
01:19 - Charlie Kirk: Person vs Symbol
02:12 - The Church as a Signifier of the Kingdom
07:15 - Charlie Kirk: Cultural Symbol
10:22 - A Deep Dive on Turning Point USA
19:30 - Reading Turning Point USA’s Mission Statements
22:10 - Reading TPUSA Faith’s Mission Statements
26:40 - What’s in the Constitution Coach
29:55 - What We Believe
40:50 - Misunderstanding of the Bible
45:54 - Misunderstanding of the Church
49:21 - Misunderstanding of Jesus
50:56 - Christian Nationalism
57:06 - Biblical and Historical Illiteracy
57:45 - Hope and Joy
1:03:03 - Is There Hope
1:05:27 - Practical Steps
1:13:05 - Last Thoughts
1:15:43 - Thank You

As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to hello@voxpodcast.com, and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram.

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