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April 23, 2025 89 mins

In this powerful episode, recovery veterans Christopher Doyle and Joe Courtney (with 48 combined years of sobriety) dismantle the dangerous myth that you can't help someone until they "want it" or "hit bottom."

Guest’s Info
Joe Courtney is many people's first phone call when they need help with an addicted loved one. Joe is married 24 years, has 4 beautiful children, and 30 years sober.

Highlights

  • The truth behind "they have to want it" that the conventional wisdom gets totally backward
  • Why your loved one's first meeting rarely happens because they chose it (and what actually gets them there)
  • The surprisingly simple sentence that's gotten hundreds of resistant addicts to agree to help
  • Why the person who got you sober might be the one person you never thank
  • The heartbreaking story of waiting "until they're ready" that ended in a funeral just days before this recording
  • The counterintuitive leverage point that turns "I don't have a problem" into "I'll go to one meeting"
  • Why the most resistant addicts who fought all the way to rehab are often the most grateful afterward
  • The shockingly simple 10-word question that can be your loved one's turning point

Joe and Chris reveal their personal journeys, relapse stories, and the practical tactics they've used to help countless others find recovery - even when those people initially wanted nothing to do with getting help.

This isn't just theory - it's battle-tested wisdom from two men who've been on both sides: the resistant addict and the person making that vital first call.


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