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October 20, 2025 54 mins

What would be the most difficult thing for you to live without? In this second installment of the series, John invites respected therapist Mary Ellen Owen into the studio to respond to the following statement: “I just don’t understand how people can survive without...” Her thought-provoking answer leads to a tender invitation into unexpected tears and deep healing.

Show Notes: The books referenced are All Things New, by John Eldredge, and Whistling in the Dark, by Fredrick Buechner.
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