"An LA 4, and an Albuquerque 8"- w/ Steve Hytner and Brendan Smith

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to Will You Accept This Rose? A production of
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yes I know and I see this when on the

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day across from the Stag and the Terrify not round
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My name is Arte Marine, coming to you live from
my bootie garage that looks like a tent in Marrakesh.
With me today are two men, human men who I
love like too much. And you can tell that I
grew up with the fucked up dead because the first

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time I met this one man, he insulted me and
I chased him to the snack table and I was like,
where he played the character he took it like a champion.
Where he played the character Kenny Baniah who the is
Gold Dear Gold. The other the Hackey comment on the
Super Nazi episode. You might know him from. He has
a podcast called That's Gold with Steve Heightner. It's on

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numerous times a week. It's super funny. I just did one.
I know him as I consider him one of my
very best friends and I and he's tried to shake
me for years, but I will not let him go.
Ladies and gentlemen, the most amazing creepy uncle Steve Hyder. Ah,

(01:58):
that is so sweet that you know, it's really very
aproposed because I felt like I was listening to your
heart right there, Stephen. Now, how many times do we
do do your podcast? My friend? You know what we
do about? We do two a week. We usually drop
one for Monday and drop one for either Thursday or Friday,

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and we um. You know, it's hard not to talk
about That's what's so nice about this. We're gonna talk
about a show. But if you just have a podcast,
it's hard not to talk about the insanity of what's
going on. Oh that I know, I know, that's what's
actually fun I I and I think maybe why our
listeners are still enjoying me. That's why we decided when
this happened, even though we weren't in season, we decided

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to break down one Pablo season just to have something
else to like, focus our brains on, something else to
think about. But I'm happy to chat about cloroxing my
instat cart uh, items, I can. I can do twenty
minutes on that. Dude, I were like a full beekeeper hat.
When I go out, I've lost my damn my um oh,

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I know. I wanted just a side note. I wanted
to thank all of our listeners. I put out a request, Uh, Steve,
Rob Cohen and I are going to do a tester
of a podcast about bad dates. And we put out
a request last week to have people calling with their
bad day story and we got twenty of the most
amazing bad dates and so we're going to be recording

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it soon. We're gonna be reaching out to some of
you guys to call you. Steve, I know you have
some bad dates of your own. Would you do the show?
I'd be happy to. I have so many bad dates
that I can subcategory um and go into that bad
one night stands. Can I raise my hand as a
I know one of your bad one night stand you
woke up and found her sleeping, but like like behind

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a plant, she was naked in the fetal position behind
a potted plant. That I have now learned as a
woman saying I am satisfied. That's also the beginning of
a wonderful law and order episode. Uh so, all right,
we'll definitely be hitting you up to be a guest

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on that. Speaking of a man, oh, I don't know
if he's had bad dates. I don't know if he's
had bad dates. I know that he has an amazing podcast.
I know that he is hilarious on our podcast. I
know that he grows and shaves and grows and shaves
a mustache. I know that he loves his dog, that
he loves the Ramons. I know that he loves Rush

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and um. You've probably heard him numerous times with the
Dream Team that is Paget Brewster and Jerry Trainer, or
with Bill Comsler on here. He also has his own
podcast called Brando The Brando Cast that you can get
anywhere podcasts are streamed. I've been on it. There's a
brand new one up a Dana Gould, who's a comedy legend.
We've had Rob, Benedict, Paget Brewster, everybody's been. I'm sure

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Steve will be on it soon. Ladies and gentleman, my
wonderful friend Brendan Smith. Oh yeah, baby, representing thirty five
years of bad dates here in North Hollywood, have you
had some bad dates? You're So have I had a
good date? That's the better question. Dates are really hard.
It's hard. I'm excited to do this podcast because I

(05:07):
feel like every human has had bad dates, and I
want to hear specifically, have you had like a bad
like Tinder date, like if you had a bad swiping
online like I guess everybody has everything. Well, I'm in
l A four, so I get shut out of Tinder
and hinge here in the city of Los Angeles and

(05:31):
Albuquerque eight. But in l A four the name of
your next album? That's there's the name of the podcast
in Albuquerque A in l A four, Albuquerque eight, in
l A pool shake that asking what the don't um
Also with us, we have two women, one woman who

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is dying to go to target and touch everything without
a gloved hand on and another woman who has been
podcasting as if it's a telethon seven from her closet
since this all began, and something must have happened like
a crime scene in her apartment because normally we see
tapestries everywhere, and now she's put up the northern lights

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because we can't even see what a ship show has become.
Ladies and gentlemen, Anna Hosnie and Katie Levaine. Hello. I
just want to say this. It's because I'm using zacks Imax,
so here it's a way. He's more of a man
of mystery. He's like, you can't see much close Katie.
Every day I pray for you to be able to

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go to Target and touch everything. So I really just
want to walk around Target and buy stuff I don't need,
you know, and then forget the thing that I came
there to get. What I missed, the mystery that is
Katie Levine, ladies and gentle for listeners. She's the biggest
outdoors person I know, and yet the things she's dying
to do is to go touch everything and over I missed.

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I miss hiking more of her. Right now, it's a
hundred degrees here, so I wouldn't be going hiking anyways.
To be all right, I want to say, I'm gonna
be honest with all my listeners. You know I don't
bullshit a bullshitter. You know I'm a real lady. At first,
when this program started, I was so excited. I was
like ABC created COVID just to make me excited to

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watch Listen to your Heart. The first episode or two
where it was just dating. I thought, I can't handle this.
I'm gonna jump off my house, but it's only a
one story house, and then I'll never broken ankle. And
I can't go to the er because I don't want
to get COVID. Now that has turned into Love Island
American IVL edition, I've woken up from my coma and
I am all in. I'm loving it. I do appreciate

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that it's only six episodes long, but I mean it's
terrible and it's wonderful and it's just what I needed.
And we've had so many people tweet at us that
it feels like each episode has had a different producer
and a different set of rules. It is just the
ship show that America didn't know that it needed. I
am all in. Steve Hartner, you're the only person that
hasn't been No wait, we haven't heard from Britain and

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yet either, Steve, you first overall week four, I believe Ron.
How are you feeling overall about listening to your heart? Well,
I agree with you. It does feel like it's being
completely done and produced by a different group of people
every week, and the only one that was maintained is
the host and they have to have him all the

(08:20):
whole damn things over. Even he looks like he does
not know what's going on. Oh he has no idea.
What's he's like? Okay, Brendan Smith, there's a reason he
doesn't know what's going on because contractually, all he has
to do is show up when the light goes green,
and he walks on. He reads a cute cards, he
leaves that he has a cocktail. I think I think

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he's got like an earpiece in and they just whisper first, like, Okay,
are you ready to become the next Carly Simon and
James Taylor the most relevant couple in music today? Are
you ready to be the next Carly Simon and James
Taylor the most relevant? Yes, he's owning it in for cash. Okay, now, Brendan,

(09:02):
are you enjoying it? No? I am nuts, I am livid.
I am livid. Yes it's trash TV. Yes it's candy,
it's garbage. It's what we need to inject into our
veins right now. But this morning I have listen to
your heart poisoning because I was subjected to music that

(09:22):
makes me want to go Robert Liquor Store music. The music.
It's the music. It's the music that gets in the way. Okay,
I know we're gonna this is the only thing we're
gonna jump ahead on. But when I'm like, when you're
like being rude to Pat Benadar and acting like you're
thirty two and you don't know Pat Benatar, Yeah that

(09:44):
was crazy and it's a great song. You got a
great song, and like, just stop being a psycho for
a second, like Brendan, We're gonna jump ahead. I wanted
I wanted to track down Brandon last night when he
said the words that's just not my jam about Pat Benatar.
I wanted to go online. I wanted to do some

(10:05):
detective work. I wanted to find him, and I wanted
to beat him like a dog in the street and
go over to his house and kill I'm going to
tell you this, and this is what you need to remember.
He is a sniper, So you might want to tread
lately here because I actually looking at the madness and
how he interacts with these ladies. He could come after
any of us. So I'm gonna say, Brandon, I think

(10:26):
you're great. I'm ready to die. I'm gonna go give
him COVID nineteen. I think you're great, Brandon. Just keep
doing what you're doing. Brandon, and I just say, you know,
he kind of buried the lead and we were dealing
with a l A four with anger issues. It's true
that he did bury the headline. He's a hothead l

(10:46):
A four with a temper, which means I'm fearless and
I'm coming for you, Brandon. With every Pat Benatar record
under my fucking arms, that was a great He's a
great song. It's a great song. I mean, what was
my favorite Pet benatart? There was a I had an
album of pet Vandachar I had like you better leave,

(11:10):
it's from my sunt No, that wasn't it. I'm gonna
look it up. I'm gonna look up that's not it.
But I'm gonna like, I am gonna google Pat Benatar
for one hot second at Menatar hits. That's what I'm
gonna google. Hat Benatar hit. It's just what I thought
I would be doing in Okay, We've got Oh, We've
got Love is a battlefield. God, there's so many. The

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night was the one that was it. Helen's for children.
Tell tell Grandma you fell off the swing. Come on,
we're running them with the sheds of the night. So
fabit I'm gonna singing like Brandon all the true in me.
And now now I was like seven, dancing like a

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stripper because of solid Gold dancers. I was, yeah, like
that song was awesome and better than being a swift
e Oh. I like Carol her Swift, so I am
a swift date. Okay, here we go. I love her,
I love her, hater, but it's not like did you
think that Taylor Swift song was particularly I love that song.
I love that song. I love that song, I love

(12:19):
that video. I love that song. I listened to over
and over in my car when it came out last winter.
I love it. Okay, here we go. Um, okay, your mom, Mom, Mama,
it's a beautiful song. Okay, here we go. So we're
starting out and we have Savannah and Brandon and she goes,
I woke up with so much gratitude, Savannah, this is

(12:42):
the yoga gal that he's with. I just believe what
Brandon and I have. You know, this is just he's
the rock for me during this experience. And then we
see Julia and Sheridan and she is pounding wine at breakfast,
trying to drink the crazy. She's so crazy, drink the
crazy and the feelings away, and she's like, wow, we

(13:05):
performed in front of Kesha and we just click and
but her eyes were kind of closed and she's just
like so bat set in the way that Jessica Messica
is from Love is blind. Um. Now Brendan has been
doing that with us on our Patreon. Don't you think
that Julia could be played by Jessica Brendan a hundred
thousand percent? And Julia would also do well on Paradise,

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But she is not physically attracted to Sheridan. We said
that from the goddamn beginning she cannot see past those
giant choppers and that mound of hair. Just you did
do this, yeah, and such a blackout and she just can't.
She can't sing herself in love with Ring. He went

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to like Claire's boutique and he bought every rock or
ring that he get it like urban outfitter. So somehow
there's a Miller's outpost near Sheridan and that's where he's
getting all his clothes. So then she's like, um, so
then incomes the robot that's Chris Harrison and they've got
a little ear button and he's like, okay, everyone loves singers.

(14:18):
We're not handing out new songs today. Oh no. No.
Chemistry is what matters the most. And if the chemistry
is not there, wow, So here's the thing. You have
the opportunity to switch partners and we're gonna be going
on dates, but not with the person that you think.
But only three of you. Only three of you are
going on dates. Yeah, Jamie and Ryan. Because ABC is like, no,

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you will be the couple. We picked you first. This
was the couple we wanted. We made you a capital record.
We've literally kept trying to make it be Jamie and Ryan,
and they were like, are you sure? We have Chris
and Rudy just so it's not so obvious that they're
trying to force Jamie and Iron and Julia and Brandon together.

(15:02):
So they're like, okay, well this throw them one fake
out like this when whatever, this is a irrelevant throwaway.
We'll send them with binoculars to a dirt pile. And
then we have Julia and Brandon and her undercarriage did
like back flips of excitement. Like the second she's like
a brand I'm a little great shored It's gonna be great.
It's just gonna give the clarity. It's just gonna be

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I've grown her very much. Disliked Julia, Katie Levine, give
me your fault all un she sucks. She hated Sheridan,
she pretended to like him, she strung him along. I
kind of think he actually thought she liked him, which
makes it so much more sad. And if you remember,

(15:42):
she kepting like she's not here for the right reason.
She's faying it's like you are openly saying to everybody
you don't want sharedan, like you've openly been faking it.
And then when the bitch, when bitch got cut, she's like,
always should have stay with Sheridan. Like, but the show,
the show is also so mean for this, Yes it was. Um.
I also keep thinking that Jamie is someone at ABC's

(16:05):
niece that they're like, we're gonna make Jamie a star,
and we really feel like the best chance for her
to be a star is if she's with Lian, Like
I feel like she's someone's niece. Brendan. Yeah, you know
who keeps getting in the way of that, Jamie? Oh
my god, what ever said Jamie. Jamie has somebody's adorable
niece who probably is talented, who's a disaster. Annas n

(16:25):
give me your thoughts on the Jamie and the Julia
of it all. Uh yeah, I think Jamie is just
too young ready for this, doesn't have the experience to
do this, and like how to um compartmentalize in anyway? Uh? Yes,
Julia is every like Julia is like. I wouldn't be

(16:47):
surprised if we found out that Julia actually had a
family back home that she lied about and left to
come like a son or daughter and at home being like, Mommy,
you're right, she's divorced. He's I'm gonna be young again.
She's like, and she's got to be free. Brendan to
Tanna's a point. I feel like Jamie could have used

(17:08):
a season of Below the Deck or road Rules, or
just some some house show set somewhere in the Hamptons.
Just get get some reality TV. Yeah, get some summer
house experience under your belt, then come into this big
time experience. It seems to me that Jamie is getting
younger every episode. It's like she started at twenty one

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or twenty two. The next stepoat episode she was eighteen.
Last episode she was fifteen, and the next episode is
going to be illegal. Can you hide her? She is
the same age that I was when you and I met,
and I was playing like an office lady, like I
feel that I was, even though I'm a silly person,
that I was much more mature than that. Oh of course,

(17:54):
but I might. And not to take away a credit
from you, but almost all people are more mature than
she is. I mean, she keeps getting younger and younger.
Now she can't even perform. There's no joy of performing
in her. She's terrified. Everything is just about fear based
and this isn't gonna happen for me. Like like a
fifteen year old and her uncle works and sales at

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ABC's and she's at ABC, and she's like, this is
my big chance. Side note a speaking of Summer House
on Bravo, I've had so many of my favorite reality
TV friends who like love reality. Everyone is like, you
have to watch Summer House. I'm throwing that as a
hat lering it's the potential next show that we do
on Patreon because everyone I know who watches Summer House
loves it. Have you watched it? Brendan no, no, no,

(18:38):
nothing about people love it. It's like it's it's like
a every person. I Anna, would you have any interest
in watching Summer House? Sure, I'd watch it, watch anything.
Let's okay, I'm putting that out there. Listeners email us
tell us your thoughts Rose Podcast at gmail dot com. Okay,
So then we have um so there's no new songs,
and she's like Julius, like this is gonna be good.

(19:00):
We're just gonna get extra extra closure. It's just gonna
be a cleansing um. And then and she's like and
Sheridan was so sweet. Sheridan grew on me more and more,
except where he didn't have a pair until the very end.
But he was like, you know, I know normally that
she goes for dicks, not the nice guys, and like
he just knew what was happening. And by the way

(19:21):
that every reality show, um, Chris, Chris goes and he's
singing some song that he's written on the piano. Was
the first time he didn't have a beautiful voice and
he was singing I'm changing. It was like he was
playing the piano and it was like he has such
a beautiful voice. It was the first time. That was like, Brendan,
what did you think again, anytime there's music, I'm out.

(19:43):
Anytime there's music, I reached for an edible or a
glass of beer and just had a numb myself flying back. Yeah,
it was, it was. It was very difficult. I know
that Mickey did not set up the show for Mr
Brendon Smith. He did not keep me in mind when
he was creating this in his lab. But it's still

(20:05):
the onslaught of any time anyone sits down at a piano,
I just want to eat my coffee table. Stephen, how
do you feel about this? Well? I think that guy
had Chris is his name. He has the best voice
on the show. Would we agree, beautiful, Yes, I do
agree with that. I think Ryan also that first week
that Ryan was at UM was that Capitol Records when

(20:27):
He's done right, that John Mayer song which was just
in his key. He it was also like his favorite
song in the world. But he has a good voice
to the book. Chris and Chris and Ryan I think
are the two best singers, no doubt. And how did
we miss just talk about Chris. I want to backtrack
to earlier episodes. Do you ever feel like what's his
girl's name. Do you ever feel like there was any

(20:51):
footage of them falling in love or getting a vibe together,
or were they just sitting next to each other and
it just worked out that way? Like, I don't think
ever any footage of the two of them having a point.
I think she just made up her mind, like I
think she's had her I think she just decided. Katie,
do you remember any footage. No, I think that it

(21:12):
was just I think you're right. It was just like, well,
we're you're my noodle buddy in the pool, Brenda. It's
it's it's a bit of a nuclear topic too, because
I could feel Mickey being very uncomfortable by that situation,
like calling down to the set and me like, why
do we get good ba go on a date with
somebody else? What are your just throw that out there

(21:33):
with Ryan? Well, they made Chris go on another day,
Yeah they did. They did. The man Natasha is flirting
with Matt as Rudy leaves Natasha Anna. Anna has an
ongoing theory that it's it's a very easy to get
behind theory that Natasha is clearly a producer plant everything,
but you know what her voice is so good that

(21:55):
I welcome the plant. Yeah, but her being like, well
I'm gonna put on a big keen and like if
my guys going on a date, well then let's get
to know your boys. And her body is not horrible either.
She's I'm literally like looking at her and listening to
her and thinking like, why are you not a star?
Like exactly so talented. He's too good for this, Like

(22:17):
she doesn't need this show. She's in her thirties. It
hasn't happened yet. She's probably she did do the Pussycat
Dolls show, so she it might be like, I think
it's harder to become a famous singer than we know.
I think it's incredibly hard. So maybe she's like, all right,
I'll try this, and you know what, she's shining. He's
so good at the drama to like she knows exactly

(22:39):
what to say and do at any moment, like literally,
like any moment she's like, so what do you think
about this? And they're like spiraling and they're all children.
She's like an adult Bond villain. She'd be great in Paradise. Brendon.
I agree with Tanna's theory about her being a producer. Plant.
There's a very specific moment in last Night show. I'm

(23:01):
sure we'll get to where it was very clear that
the producer as we're riding her into this situation like
the trojan horse. So zero question about that. But she's
probably the most fun person to drink with outside of
the cast. Do you know what I'm saying, Rudy, Rudy,
I bet is fun. Rudy. She will throw an astray

(23:21):
at your head, but she's Rudy's crazy. Rudy's crazy, but
she'll get hammered with you, but she will then fight
with you. And Savannah is the absolute best Paradise contestant
that they've had on this particular show. Barn On, so
I expect to see her on Paradise. Tighter would have
made out with Savannah. Heightner would have made out in

(23:42):
Na Tasha. Heightner would have gotten hammered with Rudy, fought
with Rudy, and maybe we had a sloppy kiss with Rudy.
All that. The only one I wouldn't the only one
I wouldn't touch is Julia. She is She is the devil.
She is the deepest, most devil woman that I have
seen on any of these shows. It is so. Um,

(24:05):
I just got a text. I just got a text
from my adult brother, who is wonderful and is a
professional man. It says, do you know whatever became of
your sticker collection? That just got texted to me on
my computer screen while we were just like are you
looking for a strawberry sticker? Alaric? Do you need a rain?
But like is there a scratch and sniff from the eighties?

(24:27):
Like why are you? Why do you you don't have
a why do you ask? What? Well? Where do you
have your sticker collection? The closet. It's in my closet
and Rhode Island. I'll text him back, holl please okay,
is in my closet in Road Island? Why do you ask?
You know? I've gotten several texts during this Should I

(24:49):
Should I read them? Nona? I just will you know? Alaric? Okay? Um, okay.
So then we have crazy Rudy is so jealous that
Natasha is gonna be there fluting with her man and
she's like, I have problems. I'm jealous. It's like, yeah,
we've already seen that. And then we have um, Jamie
and Ryan go on a date dress like cult leaders.

(25:10):
I was so grateful when I saw that they weren't
even at a real spa. They were just put in
like these weird robes. Brendan, Yeah, I actually think they
didn't leave the compound. And I believe that we shot
a show that I wrote on many, many years ago.
I believe that we shot at that exact same house.
We know where it is. It's the Hummingbird Nest Ranch.

(25:31):
It's near is that it it's near It's up near Chatsworth. Yep,
we shot there. We shot there for a week for
my boys. Uh and and the setting that was supposed
to be a resort in Arizona, um and and it
it looks it's beautiful, but it looks huge, obviously like everything.
It looks huge on TV, but it's it's actually not

(25:52):
that big. When you're there, it looks huge, it's not.
I mean, it's it's really nice. It's also hot as
balls up there are off the one A Freeway. For
those of you listening outside the city of Los Angeles,
you know what, You're a Chatsworth at least six You're
at least a Chatsworth. I can do well. I could
do well on chats Worth for a I think maybe

(26:13):
a Chatsworth A especially if there's a Don Cuco's up
in chats Worth. I feel like I could really own
that scene up there. What's a Don Cucko? Just a
good Mexican restaurant. Oh my god, happy the way happy
I just said by Arden Van Amorage Marine, just as
every I just I gotta tell you, God, I missed tacos.

(26:33):
I miss I love a taco anyway. Um So then
we have, by the way, Jamie's on her date at
the spa in her robe with the reddest lipstick and
full face of makeup on. It was Anna, you pointed
out her makeup, didn't you said? Yeah, that's real bad. Yeah,
full face, dunaway face looks like a plain doll, like

(26:53):
those creepy ones that they like paint their faces. And
she's adorable. You're like, You're like, you just want to
give her like I'm I'm no expert, but you want
to send her to like the Mac counter to get
like one little quick lesson. She's really young face cloth
yeah yeah. Um so then we have so then on

(27:14):
the date with Sheridan and Julia, they go to the Roxy.
They're like literally trying to give her her dream date.
They the other people are sent to a pile of
rocks and handed a robe for the a a nonspap
and then these two, these two ding Dungs, get to
go to the Roxy, where they meet up with Joe Krause,
a song like like who seems to be a legitimate songwriter.

(27:35):
Brendan No seems to be a guy who works at
Forage on Sunset and Silver Lake, seems to be a
guy who has the soap tent at the Atwater Village
Farmer's Market on Sundays, seems to be a p a
on the show who they needed to be a quote
unquote songwriter for this goddamn date. I told you you

(28:01):
guys would like you, was right. And by the way,
may I say also to people outside the city of
Los Angeles, the Roxy is not a date location. Yeah,
kudos to the Arts department for dragging in a bunch
of sofas and a little coffee table to set up
a dying situation in front of a tiny rock club.

(28:22):
But it made me mad, and I know it should
make me mad. It's cute and we're supposed to fall
in love. But all right, Brendan, you don't have to
do another one of these you're out, but I don't.
You don't gonna finish it. You're gonna finish The Roxy
is not a date place. It's not a place if
you're both having a pass blue ribbon with a spatoon

(28:42):
next to you, then yeah, that's a date place. Okay.
So then so then um so then they're like, Okay,
we're gonna we're gonna write a song. Um, it might
be wrong. We might be doing ourselves a disservice if
we didn't pursue it. If it's there. Oh no, that's
what she's saying. She's like, you know what if it's

(29:04):
just if I'm you know, if it's there, we're doing
ourselves at distervice we don't forsue it. And then um,
Sheridan is like, I am all in on this, and
then Julia I wrote not twenty seven. She's wearing white
sneakers like mom sneakers, as if she was in working
girl in like Nive and she was Molanie Griffith and

(29:25):
she wore her pumps on the Staten Island ferry. You know,
she worked like white sneakers, but even not even cool.
They weren't like cool like um, you know, Kylie white
sneakers that were like streetwear. They were actually like white
l A gear sneakers that she was right. She noticed though, Stephen,
you're talking about the outfit she had had on when

(29:47):
she went on the date. Yes, yeah, I noticed, and
and and then the the the skirt just didn't seemed
right for her because she's in her thirties and stuff not.
I guess that's no agism, but I just didn't seem right. No,
it was truly as like, you're not you're not gi
headed wearing like you can't wear like norm core cool
street where like you actually look like somebody's mom that's

(30:09):
like like, hey, my my my arches are killing me.
I'm gonna come to the soccer game. I'm gonna put
my sneakers on. So she goes, and um, and let
me ask you about But as we go to that date,
and we haven't, I haven't discussed him much, as is
what's the guy's name, Brandon? What is the appeal? He
is the lowest form of life, and he doesn't seem

(30:31):
that good looking to me. He doesn't seem like he
has a sense of humor. What is the appeal? I mean,
we've talked about this a lot, and I'll get to
one second, Brandon, I see you. Um, I'm wondering, like
he is a real sniper, and I'm wondering if there's
because like the like danger like sexy something like, I

(30:52):
don't know. Brendan, he's a bad boy. He's gonna sleep
with your best friend and then he's gonna sleep with
your other best friend when you lose the other first.
He's a bad he's the bad boy of the show.
I mean, let's look at who do we have. We
have Ryan, who's absolutely adorable, but he's like Harry Pottery,
Like he's cute as a button. He's Harry Potter, he's
not in alpha. Then we have Sheridan, who is sweet

(31:15):
as can be and actually I think very handsome, but
like it is a lot of teeth and like I
think he's actually very handsome. I think he's almost so
sweet that like these that he's not gonna like funck
them over, like he's like a nice you know, he's
not dangerous. He's couldn't be sweeter. Then we have Chris,
who's very sweet also but likes a more gentle giant

(31:37):
like you know, these are not so this is like
your one alpha male former marine, Like, is there any
other guy that's left? Who else has left? Am I
missing somebody? Oh? No, that Trevor mat Yeah, Trevor, Trevor,
who I think is a cheat. I believe that, And
he's Trevor's Trevor is cute, But Trevor's all locked in

(31:58):
on Jamie. But I can see. That's my point. I
can see Trevor like lowering the girls in good look,
and he's got a nice way like a devil. No,
I know he's the most alpha. I think he's the
only I think he's the only true alpha with a
tangent bad boy and shared and said it because Sharedan's

(32:19):
whole attack with Julia was to be the good guy,
because she's gone for the bad guy her whole life.
And he said it on the show. I'm going to
show her the good guys are. Okay, he's wrong. Um,
we're gonna take a break and come right back. The

(32:45):
eagle is landed and we're back. Um. Yeah, So they
write this song. Meanwhile, back at the ranch, we have
Sheridan is singing a song that he's made up written
called my Expense, How it's all at his expense? In
another piano songs, and we know that Brendan was having
more edibles and wine and um uh, Savannah is nervous.

(33:08):
Rudy comes back and immediately hugs matt Um and then
um there's Julia and they're still at the Roxy and
they write a song called Clarity. It's a mystery only
when to get there through you and me? And too
old to Be Sleeping. They rhymed the words on with on,
I'm too old to be sleeping with a light still on,

(33:31):
fighting change but still moving on. It's that's not that
part of a word to rhyme with on. Um, No,
it's that's This is why I told you that I
got listened to your heart Poisoning at the beginning of
this podcast, and why why the kid from Forage on
Sunset was why the kid on Forage on Sunset couldn't

(33:52):
help them write a good song. You're right, Anna, what
did you think of that song? Um, not much at all.
They were like, Wow, we're really nailing this, and I
was like, I don't I would not listen to this.
It sounded okay until they started rhyming the same words

(34:13):
of the same words. Stephen, what did you think, Well,
you know. I wasn't even listening to the song. I
was so kind of taken with the lack of chemistry
that the two of them have. Did you think that, well, yeah,
I And then the fact that that date ended with
him saying, oh yeah, I'm gonna be with you. It's like,
based on what not only did this song suck, but
the two of you suck together? Like what what? What chemistry? Well,

(34:36):
they start making out and um, and you don't need
chemistry for that. That true story. So then she started shivering.
She's like, oh my god, I'm falling for Brandon. I
want to end up with Brandon. And then he puts
like his jacket around her. She's like, you know, it's

(34:58):
like Calabasas. It's like a hundred and ninety degrees like
and he's like, talk soon. We're gonna talk, okay, because
they have no regrets. I have no regrets. And then
she and then by the way, and in between, ABC
keeps running the Please Date our new Bachelorette, Claire Crawley,
and I'm gonna put up this photo from a brothel

(35:21):
in three when make the listones like a romance cover
from the eighty I mean the photo they are not
doing her any service. Definer, what do you think of
the ads for please Date Claire Crawley? Well, what's the problem.
They can't get people. They can't get people who want
to boost their Instagram All of a sudden, you can't
get anybody on the show. Nobody wants to date her.
Anna you go take it? Uh? Well, I mean she

(35:45):
also um tweeted out that she didn't like her current
group of guys that they got and I did have
a real dud batch we saw the photos. It was dregs.
You're like, oh there was like are they age appropriate? Know,
they're like twenty two. Oh that's weird. They want to
be they want to get Instagram followers. She asked more

(36:07):
people to apply, which is I think she's pressuring them
to get different guys. Well, what was the idea, Look,
let's go back to their original thinking. What's what was
the thinking on her anyway, that let's do one a
little older. But then if you're gonna do that, when
you use guys that are a little older as the group,
I think nobody applied. I don't think anybody applied. I
think that seems impossible. Literally, that's why they keep begging

(36:31):
I think people don't know who she is. And I
think because it was so because her season was six
years ago, So I think it's like she's thirty eight.
And then you have to get a thirty year old
man that watches it and it's like knows what it
is and would apply. So it's probably he's probably divorced,
you know, Like I don't know. It's just like it's
like it's a very it's not somebody who like the

(36:52):
age group wouldn't think I'm going to go become an influencer.
They probably already have a job, you know what. Well,
now that now that unemployments at sent maybe they'll have
a little bit more luck finding. I'm ready, Um if
you guys will sponsor me and maybe we started go
fund me campaign with all the listeners of will you
accept this Rose, I'm ready, two year old man, I'm ready.

(37:17):
I'm ready, and I don't need Instagram followers. Do you
want us to do you want us to submit you?
I think you should just take a screenshot of me
right now with these giant these giant bags under my
eyes because I've been drinking for the last forty seven
days in a row. Claire, I'm coming for you, baby.
I hope you'll hope you like the Circle Jerks of

(37:39):
the Ramones, Fear Black Flag X. I'm gonna party down.
I'm gonna do things a little differently, but I'm gonna
be a lot of fun. You know what? Why not? Why? Yeah? Yeah,
hey guys, who what's a gummy? I feel good about it? Okay?
So then um Julia goes in, she pulls shirt in aside,

(37:59):
and it's whispering and oh my god, I'm sorry what
I needed and I know that after today I can't
He's like, what you can't what? I just I just
I feel like I just I can't just what? What? What? What?
Can't you do it? Because I don't know what You're
being so mean about it? And then she says this,

(38:25):
learn I didn't know what, and then she goes, I
feel like I don't know. I don't think that I
feel that I can get there with you. And then
he goes, okay, well I wish you the best, and
she literally does this, wait, so that's it. You're just
leaving like she stopped on a dime. Her insane And

(38:47):
then when he was like, okay, all right, good luck
to you, I'm out and she's like, wait, you're gonna
walk away? And he's like, well, I've done my best.
I literally don't know what you want from me. I
don't care about you. And then he starts laughing and
she goes. She goes, look, I'm sorry that it's hard
to hear anything from you, and and she's like, what
he doesn't mean, because just know that this isn't easy.
I'm not trying to laugh in your face. I'm laughing

(39:09):
so that I don't cry. And then he finally leaves.
But I was so happy that he grew au pair. Well,
it took a while, and at first, when she says,
I can't believe you're being so mean, I couldn't believe
he apologized in that situation initially. Then he stood up,
and then she says, I can't believe you're gonna leave,
and he sits back down, and I'm just going crazy.

(39:30):
I'm like, first of all, more of her which world
that she could possibly consider herself the victim in this
moment in any way, and then the fact that he
again did both things she asked Brendan, I screamed out
loud when he first said okay, I'm gone and started
walking away happy for him. My lady friend Julio Wolfe

(39:53):
was like, why are you screaming? And I said, because
he's breaking the coat and he's just gonna leave. Go
go to And when he turned around, I just assumed
that production was like, whoa, whoa, whoa, Steve go to one,
Steve go to one. We gotta stop Sheridan from leaving
that goddamn living room. Do not let him leave that
living room. I just I really felt that every p

(40:13):
A and every sound person got in the way of
him leaving and said, you go back in there, You
get back in there, back from the Roxies. Jeff go
to three, Jeff go to three? Is Steve in the
van where the fund is Steve? Because I wanted him
to walk drop the mic and walk away, to do

(40:36):
what reality show does not do, which is be real
and just get the funk out of there. I just
get taking like like like he like you did all
of this, You are the asshole. He is a sweetie
pie who does his god his urban outfitters luck and
he wants to be a rocker, Like let him. What
do you want? What do you want from him? Like

(40:57):
the thing about her, how how evil she is is both.
He had both of those instincts. One he wasn't being
nice to her anymore, and then two he got up
to leave, and she had an immediate answer for both
of those. It's who she is. She didn't stumble on
either of those. She's such a dick. And it's horrible

(41:19):
because she's like this lady, this poor lady who like
has cystic fibrosis. She works for the Cystic Fibrosis Foundation.
You're like, at first, she she looks kind of like
Renee Zellwegger and and uh Jerry McGuire, and you like her.
You're like, okay, cool, like yes, you're you're you're living
your life and you're like healthy are you doing? Like yes,
I'm rooting for you. And then it's like, stop being

(41:41):
such a piece of shift. She is. She is the
lowest of the low And can we talk about all
these different shows. I can't think of someone, in my opinion,
as low as she is. And the only thing that
brings me joy is that she gets that dirt bag.
The fact that's exactly they come up that she got.
She did it to herself. She did it to herself, Tanna,

(42:04):
what do you dang do you think that she did
it to herself. Tanna, Yeah, I think she. Um, she
went for the bad boy who was clear like he
was definitely more interested in Savannah, but was like, well,
I guess I'll just work with I go, and she
fucked herself and part of it she wasn't She didn't

(42:27):
deserve it in the end because she wasn't being truthful,
she wasn't being cool, and she was going like she
blamed every woman around her problem when the guys were
the like being shady. So then okay, so hold on,
hold on, the guys were being shady, but her problem
was her, not Brandon. She she is the shadiest of

(42:48):
them all. Oh my god, she's the worst. But that
she had brand blaming the other women too, like she
has no accountability, there's no self awareness, not a fan. Okay.
So then um so then he leaves and um so
then um he's in the car and he says, I
just think she's been with a lot of dick guys
and maybe she needed one more. She clearly she did

(43:11):
one more asshole, like to you know, I was trying, okay,
and I got a problem with that too. In a
in a way, he's still making excuses for her. Then
I felt, so he has a low self esteem. He says,
I think something must be wrong with me if I'm
consistently not enough for the people that I'm with. Broke
my heart, Sheridan, I came fully, I was fully all

(43:33):
in on you. I think you were a gentleman from
beginning to end. I think you're adorable. I think you're talented.
I thought you were a good partner and you should
know your worth and like some lady is gonna be
so happy to be with you doing okay? But there,
let's not say that he didn't. Now you're making me
think there were things he was doing that as a guy,
you're like, oh, dude, Like sometimes early early episodes, I

(43:55):
know there's only six of them, but um, he was
like he'd just be standing next to her, petting her arm.
Was liked that women don't dig the petting the arm.
I felt, And I think I said this on the
first episode. I felt like he was cast by the
producers as a guy who could get eliminated in week

(44:18):
one or two easily, and they would have zero emotional
connection with him at all, do you know what I mean? Like,
there's always contestants on all these shows that are just
chum that are just chummed to throw in the water
for the sharks. And the fact that he made it
this far what I feel like. It was sort of like, oh,
shared and still around. Yeah, you know what I mean. Yeah. So,

(44:40):
so he lasted longer than than they ever thought. So
they changed the rules to make sure they got rid
of ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding
ding ding ding ding. That's why they have six different
producers for six different episodes. Okay, so then we have um.
I did feel badly for him when he said that,
So let me have Savannah and Brandon. And she's like, wow,

(45:01):
it's hard to be this present um um and so
oh yeah, she's with Savannah and he's like and he is.
Now I'm afraid of him. I'm not even joking, but
I am afraid of Brandon. And so I'm going to
just say what happened. I'm not gonna give my opinion.
I'm just gonna He said that Julia still has feelings

(45:22):
for me, and I think I still have feelings and
then she's he says, I'm nine in this and then
she goes, how am I supposed to feel right now?
And then he goes, how do you want to feel
right now? And then um, and then she's like, I
want to feel like I've been chosen. And then he
says we have a lot of work to do on

(45:44):
our communication. And then she says are we doing anything
or you and Julia doing something? And then he goes,
you deserve everything you want, sweetie, and then she starts
walking sweet sweetie, and then she starts walking away. She goes,
I can't do it. I can't do it. Um and
then and then and then he switches and goes, I

(46:04):
wanted to work out with Savannah. What do I need
to do to fix this? My choice is you? Even
though I just said I want to work it out
with Julia, I'm now saying my choice is you. I'm
here for you, sweetie. And um, and then he says
you have you something, something something you have asked, sweetie,
and his eyes were dead and he was talking to her,

(46:26):
and she says, I don't trust you. I don't want
to figure this out. This isn't for me. And then
she leaves and she's like, hi, guys, I'm leaving, and
then she left and got into suv with no suitcase.
I am so afraid of him that I'm not going
to comment. I'm gonna let Brendan, who has no fear,
take it. Yeah, come after me, Brandon. I live in

(46:46):
North Hollywood, not far from Little Tony's Pizza. You'll often
find me at the Jersey Mike's on the corner of Vineland,
Camario and Lancashim. I got no fear. I'm glad you
served your country. You're a You're a Putts. You're a
Putts for Hayden pat Manatar and you treated Savannah like

(47:07):
a dog, as the President would say. You treated her
like a dog. Now, the passive voice that this uh
patriot used really drove me bonkers, and I was wondering
if the gas lighting was happening in real time. I
couldn't believe it. Again, I said to my ladies friend,
I said, he's gastling her everyday, every which way. What

(47:31):
do you want to do? I'm sorry, you got queen
you sweetie, even I just said, I want Julia I
a minute with you, sweetie. Like, ladies, did you guys
think that he wanted Savannah to beg and cry for
him on that spot? What was he really trying to do?
That's what I it was hard to watch, and it
did feel like it did feel like there was some

(47:52):
power getting off on something in a power That's what
I thought that he was. He wanted to reduce her
to tears and like I love you and you can't
leave me please, I want to record with you or
whatever it was, but she wasn't doing it. I had
a lot of respect for her in those moments too.
I was so proud. Yeah and I and I didn't
like her and I didn't like her me neither. What

(48:14):
Brandon was doing there, I think a little bit is there.
There are these guys and sometimes women do it, but
I feel like guys do it more where they do
that thing where if they stay calmer, they're obviously dealing
with the situation better than you are, like, oh oh no,
just take it down. When he said that, he said,
can we have a talk like adults? Yeah? And that's
so crazy, making Anna, what do you think he wanted? Like,

(48:37):
as a lady, what do you what do you think
he wanted? Brandon? Yeah, I think he wanted Savannah and
him to go far. But I don't think you think
he wanted her to beg for his forgiveness to say like,
what was he trying? Because he was MANI he was
gaslighting her right and left, and he did it on purpose.
It was not an accident that he said I want Julia,
I want you know, sweetie, Like what did he? I

(49:00):
think he wanted her to just give it and be like, well,
if you choose me, then I'm you know she. I
think he just wanted her to give in to him
being like I choose you, and her being like okay,
I'm okay. He was like watching a psychologically damaging relationship
and watching a woman like him wanting to reduce herself. Yeah,

(49:20):
I got you and now you're with me, like and
then watching Savannah who I couldn't believe my heart was
going out to Savannah who came on the show like
the hot chick who was going to choose whoever she
wanted to choose, and now all of a sudden, you know,
she's just he was he curled up in a ball,
in a fetal position behind a potted plant. He was
a dirty dog. He was. I did not like. It

(49:43):
made me uncomfortable to watch a woman get attempt he
had how he was talking to her, and then the
but the sheer fact that she extricated herself again. I
very much was rooting for her, Katie, What did you think? No, Yeah,
he sucks. He wanted the most to want him. Obviously,
he just like he wanted. He wanted this cake. What

(50:03):
is the same like he wanted he wanted. Yeah, it
is exactly what he wanted. And I just don't get
it because he's ugly and he's stupid. I don't get
it as either. I just don't. We keep saying bad boy,
but you have to have some sort of quality, maybe
that you know they were they weren't shooting full body.
Maybe he has the Donga death around the pool or something.

(50:27):
I did not see anything a feeling. Um. So then Brandon,
right after she leaves and he's like begged her to stay.
He goes right up to Julia and goes, well, I
had a great day with you. Um, I'm optimistic and
I know that we're gonna do well. And I just
like write it like he just switched like a like

(50:47):
a switch flip to switch, and uh like nothing like
there is no there. There there's no there, there's no
accountability of what just happened. It's scary, Okay. So then
um he goes I'm glad we're moving forward together. And
they're like, okay, here comes Chris Harrison tomorrow night at
the Novo Downtown. What is the Novo Theater? It's it's

(51:12):
it's l a live it was it was Club Nokia
before they just rebranded at the Novo. So we're down
we're down right across the street from the goddamn Staples Center. Okay,
it looks a big thing. That's a big theater. It um.
So they're going to the Novo and Brandon gets we
below and he was like super pouty about it and

(51:35):
then coming for you, Brandon coming in it. And then
she she goes, I know that he's not feeling it. Um.
It was just like it was just it's a great song.
And they gave them like they gave them a great song.
And he was so pouty about it. And if they Okay,
we belong together. This is your journey. You guys have

(51:56):
been a part. They've given you this great coming together
song for your first public song. They gave you a present,
and you're being a weird little baby about it. Stephen
Heightener thought, well, I love the first of all, I
love this song. What did he call it some sort
of eighties power ballot or something. Start of my mom's hairdresser. Yeah,
I mean it's a great song. But look to just

(52:17):
and you know, bring this point a little further in
that part over at the Novo is he just he
just uh, he made sure he didn't go on. I mean,
the performance was unbelievable. He basically just mumbled into the
microphone and didn't connect with her at all. So it
was really an extension, an extension of when he saw

(52:38):
the song. His energy never changed from the moment he
saw the song. True story Brendan again, when he sat down,
I'm blanking on who he was sitting around the table with,
bitching about uh Pat Benatar. That's when my anger just
got ahold of me and I had to have another
edible because I felt like that was totally unnecessary and

(53:00):
and everyone else is playing along and going with it
and excited. You're a musician, like make it work. And
in the words of the immortal Tim Gunn, so then
we have so then so then Brandon and Julia are
sitting at a booth with Ryan and Natasha, and she goes, uh, Julia,

(53:21):
plug your ears, as you know, you can't hear anything
if you're fingers into your ears, and she was like,
if if here comes the producer plant ship starring, I'm
just asking, I'm just curious if if Savannah had stayed,
would you prefer to be with her? And he was like, yes,

(53:41):
like happily as if um as if that's not gonna
just like like he he and he knows he's just
gonna gaslight and go. He didn't se that like he
can say anything he wants because he'll never have accountability
about it. Steven, he's gonna undercut whichever woman he's with
it time, he's gonna undercut him so frustrating. So then

(54:03):
um so then right before the so then they all rehearse,
and then right before the performance. Natasha then's like, um
here we go. Anna, I just feel like you should know,
like when you put your fingers in your ears and
you totally couldn't hear us. He did say that he
wanted that he did. She was like, she was like,

(54:25):
why would you tell me this? I mean the time,
I'm just saying as a friend, it's just as a friend.
She was like, that is not feel like a friend. No,
she's such a drama queen and I am not Avanna Julia,
but it was shitty timing. Brendan, Well again, I got
the names wrong at the beginning. This was where I
felt like the producers were at play and using Natasha

(54:47):
to script the show. It was one of the most
blatant producing jobs of the night. Yes it was. It
was just so blatant too, because they knew that she
would come unnerved and it would jeopardize her performance, which
is what they wanted. So congratulations producers, and they did

(55:09):
get what they wanted. Um, but what I couldn't believe,
and you know, editing is so much on these shows. Um,
I guess they didn't want this or it didn't happen,
But how did not every other person on that show
have a moment of going that was complete bullshit? To
do that to her? Right, they're all performers. Fifteen minutes

(55:29):
before we perform, she said, how did not every single
one of them say that is sad? What are you doing? What?
They're also young though, that they're like and I think
they're all on their own ship of freaking out because
they're the Novo, you know, they're just like lost in
their own thing. Yeah, I mean they because if they
get sucked into it. Then they have to deal with it,
and they're going on in seven minutes, so it's like,

(55:51):
I gotta get out of here. So then um, she's like,
I don't like this conversation. This doesn't feel good. This
has beendictive, and I was like, you're right. Um, then
we bring out first we have all of the judges.
We have, um, Rachel and Brian. Now a listener emailed
us to say to look and see that. Listeners thought

(56:11):
in advance last week that Brian's cheekbones have been removed
his implant. So I was looking the plans were still there.
Did he look like he's still a cheek in plants?
Tanna Brendan, Did you guys see cheeking plants? Couldn't see
anything beyond the hair plugs. Will you pull up the
photo that you sent last night and see if he
looks like he still has his cheek implants? And they

(56:34):
clearly took his tongue out because he didn't say a
goddamn word the whole night. They cut his dick off.
When they're like Rachel Lindsay and her husband Brian like yeah,
like we like her second choice to Peter Brian exactly
you know she's living her best life. Yea, her trophy choice. Yeah,
the one that everyone went, no, you want to be

(56:55):
with Peter and she's really stuck your guns. Um. Then
we have Andy graham Er, who seemed like a nice guy,
and Tony Braxton, and then you have Brandon going, well
what did he say? It was like Tony Braxton, boy,
she commands respect or like he clearly didn't know who
it was. I was just gonna say that he had

(57:17):
no idea who she was. I was like, well, when
Tony Brax is in the house, you know she's paying attention,
Like there was something that was so generic. Well, she's charismatic.
I guess she's somebody. She said, you know, when Tony
Braxton's around, you're gonna get a lot of Tony Braxton's
First of all, I think that was the first appearance

(57:38):
in I don't know, twenty thirty years where Tony Braxton
did not show the top of her ass like there
was there was no no shots of Tony Braxton's ass,
which just to be a waste of television. I did
not know that. I didn't know that that was what
she was doing for. Well, I will say and I
listened back three or four times. I swear to god.
Chris introduced in get went first last time because they

(58:01):
know they put on a great show. I swear to god,
he said, Whodian met Yeah, I swear to god. He
introduced Whodi and bad and um. I just love watching
them perform. I did want him to look at her
a little more. I feel like she talked and loaded
on him, and she has a great voice. You it's
clear she's more into him than he is into her.

(58:22):
He doesn't look at her that much, but they're still
so fun to watch together. It feels like the guitar
gets in the way on a on a show where
they're trying to show how into each other they are,
it always seems like there's a guitar in the way
that they can't interact as much as they're trying to
to show the judges how into each other there are.

(58:43):
I mean, Tony had a great point, which is like,
at least play the guitar like you're playing her body,
like at least make it hot and like you're like,
you know, like playing some sexy song at the hot
lady singer, you know, like Brendan, what did you think
I know that you hate the music part. But yeah,
but but I can tell a good for performance. I
can Here's what I know. What I know is I
can tell a good performance. That's Dana and Julia. She's Dana.

(59:07):
I know we said that. We said that, I don't
know if we can use this on the show, but
we said it's data. It is. What's her last name,
good Man? It's Dana Goodman. She's last she's a little
bit like she's a party girl. I like Rudy. And
you can tell she's played a lot of bar shows.
You can tell she's a real musician. You can tell
she's a performance. She puts on a show. Yeah, they

(59:28):
did great. And and by the way, here's I can
objectively say, I know what's a good performance and what's
a bad performance. So even if I hate the song,
I can tell when someone nails it. You could do
worse than hiring a Hoodie and Matt to be your
wedding band. Crowd going, your aunt and uncle will get
on the floor, your cousins will get like, they will

(59:49):
put on a show. You could do worse than hiring Hoodie.
And if they're singing at the brass monkey, I might
stop for a second at the bar and listen to
their song for a second. Yeah, she's fun and I
feel like they're cool. They're the most chill, even though
she's gonna throw an astra at your head eventually, that's
kind of what's fun about her. Okay, So then he's
not looking at her, but they were so good together. Meanwhile, backstage,
Jamie goes, you're so good it makes me want to

(01:00:12):
throw up. She's getting younger and younger. It's like an
eight year old or on the eleven yeard it's like
sixth grade, and what are you thinking? Um? I agree,
I don't know Jamie is she gets worse every episode
when she like cries and and is like losing it
a little. And then and Trevor doesn't. He doesn't seem

(01:00:34):
to notice. He knows, like every time she's like crying,
he's just like practice thing. What are you supposed to do?
You know what I mean? It requires so much attention,
like how do you like? How do you do? Seem
to be checking out with her a little bit more
each episode. It's too much because she's overdoing it. You
can't cry wolf so many times? And I have somebody
to be like okay, is white noise of tears, like
this is too much and they auditioned to be on

(01:00:56):
this show. They all have talent. I again, as I said,
earl here, I'm stunned at the lack of joy she
brings to the stage. It's like, we're not there yet,
we're not quite there, but we're almost there. So then
so then Matt says to Rudy, you're so good at singing,
it's ridiculous. He whispers in her ear, which was cute,
and then they did another Claire Crawley ad okay, and

(01:01:18):
then you're right now here we are. We're at Jamie
and Trevor. She goes, I don't want to mess up.
I feel like um um. She has her eyes closed.
It was just watching them sing. She's like, I don't
let you down. I don't let you down, and then
watching her sing, and then and then it gets worse
when she throws her whole body into it and it's
trying to like like she's so nervous and she's clinging

(01:01:39):
on him. And then when she's trying to rock the
house down on the lower level, it was so uncomfortable.
Tony Braxton is like leans over to Brian the only
time he was allowed to whisper speak to somebody, and
she goes, is she nervous? And he goes yeah and
gives a little wink um and then oh, no, I'm sorry,
Trevor winks at her and I wrote down, is she

(01:02:01):
someone's niece? That's when I wrote down, like, is Jamie
someone's niece? And then she was freaking out. And then
she comes off stage and she goes, I fucked up.
I fucked up. I fucked up, and then she's weeping
and then he has to deal with her and she's
like no, no, So I was just like, please kick
them off, Please kick them off. Ste Well, that's what

(01:02:22):
I'm saying. It seems it seems to me like he's
he's getting more disconnected from her each week too, because
it didn't seem like, yeah, he wasn't trying to save
her in that performance in any way, Like he was
much more connected to her in the of the week
before his performance. And I think she's just firling out
of control. And like, as I was making the point,
you would think with all of this stuff, maybe just

(01:02:43):
lose yourself in the music. You auditioned for this show,
you have talent, lose yourself in the freaking music, but
she can't for a second. I'm gonna reply to that too.
I think last week he probably saw that she was
a producer favorite, that she kept getting sent on dates.
He probably thought, great, the is are and she does
have a good voice, like okay, like we're the little

(01:03:04):
young cutie pie golden couple. We're this is ours to lose.
And then they got so outmatched last week, and then
like and then she's getting more and more immature, and
I think he's slowly realizing. I know ABC wants her
to win, but I don't think they can do anything
to actually make her win because she's going to ruin

(01:03:24):
it for herself. It was hers to lose from day
one by the amount of dates they gave her, and
she can't get out of her own way. And I
think Trevor knows that he thought he had the winning hand,
and he he does. Brendan and and other people have
popped through. Uh. Their performers are holding their own people
are talented and and and to me, as someone who's

(01:03:48):
not a fan of that kind of stuff that she sings,
she's not enough. She's not charismatic enough to overcome that
for me. Do you know if you're just as as
far as the females go, Well, you got a Rudy
and you got a Natasha and you're just delivering like
little girl crying on this. It's like and even like

(01:04:10):
bree Bree is grounded and has a very pretty but
like like she's at least a woman who's grounded and
falling in love like there is You're you're outmatched every
time you turn around, and it's mostly because of your
own nerves, if you it's not that the vocal qualit,
I mean, Natasha's voice is insane. Well, like I just

(01:04:30):
I get that feeling that she's somebody who's never performed
in public before, and then all these other people have.
There's just no chops there. There's no ten thousand hours
under the belt. There's no ten hours something about like
this is the first time. Um So then Chris and
Breee sing and I have to say, I do love
this song and I thought it was very sweet. And

(01:04:52):
I'm gonna own I as your podcast host, I can
own my own. I'm gonna take something back. Um it
may not be like it's a gentler love, but I
am all in on them as a couple. I wish
them well and I think they're very sweet, and I

(01:05:13):
think there's a gentleness there and I'm gonna take back,
and I think I love that they're falling in love.
And I enjoyed watching this, and Tony Braxton did too.
She said, that's what I'm talking about. I was uncomfortable,
but I loved it. I saw a connection. It was beautiful.
You were singing as if there was no when in
the audience, I'm not even a swift e and then
they said I am a swifty and then Chris had

(01:05:34):
that beautiful falsetto at the end, and then she hugged him,
and then she says to Chris, oh my god, I
hugged him. I said I love you, but he didn't
hear me. And then he goes, I didn't hear you,
but I would have to Anna, you get to get
speak and I know how angry she is, but I
would have back, and then he goes, I love you too.
I never said it, and I meant it. And I
know you have feelings about this. Take it handy. It

(01:05:55):
didn't make me angry as much of um I like
left my body because of how hard I was cringing,
like it didn't feel like it was just by the
way I did say I love you and him being
like I would have said I love you back, like
it felt scripted, but then like bad acting, it just
felt weird. Um okay, Brendan Okay. I thought that they

(01:06:19):
had the best performance of the night, just for me,
Just for me. I felt like they nailed their song.
They had a great performance. Sorry, sorry, will you accept this?
Rose audience members? I do not buy their coupledom. I
do not think that we're going to see them a
year from now in People magazine welcoming a child into

(01:06:40):
the world, or moving into a new home in Provo, Utah,
where Bree is from. I don't think any of that
is gonna happen. But I felt like they stepped up
to the plate and they nailed it, and I got
a lot of respect for both of them for doing that,
especially in front of Tony Braxton. You know, I find
myself very bored by Brie. I just find look, her

(01:07:02):
voice is nice, she hits the notes, but there's nothing there,
there's no just it's just not interesting. I would rather
really used the star of the two of the Yeah,
what I want is Natasha and Chris to be together.
I want to see the two of them kill a
song and then I want to watch them have sex. Whoa, whoa.
I don't think you can make that happen, but I

(01:07:25):
like that that's what you want. I would did not
see that going there. I think Natasha's smoking hot. I yeah,
I just didn't pick to you putting Chris into the mix.
Katie Levine, Yes, Chris, Chris has the best voice on
the entire show. I was really mad because I like
Taylor Swift as well, and I was really excited they

(01:07:47):
were singing that song. And I'm so mad because they
kept cutting to that brat j my god, fucking crying. Yeah,
I'm looking at the pretty parts of the song. They
kept going back to Jamie and I was like, oh,
was there like some licensing thing where they couldn't actually
get the whole song and they like had to cut out.
I think they thought they were boring, so like, let's
get the drama. Brendan, Yeah, I'll answer that and that

(01:08:09):
as a producer of the show, I'm going to tell
you that what we want is the backstage drama with Julia.
That's all that we care about that someone that Tony
Braxton could have jumped up on stage and started. That
was Jamie. That was jam but but also Julia. They're
still there's still there's still stuff going on backstage. That's

(01:08:29):
what they're that's what they're focused on. Okay, So then
we have um oh, then we then they're talking backstage
and Chris was saying how he's had depression, he had sadness,
he lost his dad. We don't know any of this
because we've never really seen the only thing we know
that she just broke up with somebody, her fiance. I
wish my dad could be here to meet her. Um,
it's somebody who's perfect for me. I felt happy for them.

(01:08:52):
So that next up we have Julia and Brandon and
they did the most awkward version of We Believe It
was watching him sing this and then I want you
to want me? Could you do two worst versions of
two great songs? I mean, like this guy killing classic
songs right and left in public, so upsetting. Brendan Smith

(01:09:13):
take it away? Yeah, just again. By this point in
the evening, the Green Hornets had gotten the best of me.
So I was on my back. This is something that
you might find at various in century stores all over
the San Fernando Valley, Up and Down Venture specifically, come
join us at Perennial on Culfax and Venture. Stephen, Uh, yeah, look,

(01:09:38):
it was horrible. It just gets into more about what
is possibly the appeal of this guy where what he did,
Like you said what he did so I want you
to want me. It's almost impossible, almost impossible take the
fun out of that song. He's like looks like he's
like taking a dump, like he's down. He's a there's
like a crouch happening, sat down. Those jeans are too

(01:10:01):
tight too. It's not it's not a good I think
he thinks she's making a sexy singing face, but it's
like those palsy. It's not. It's so he was. It
was the full bail. He was bowling on her completely.
He barely looked over at her. He said, he you know,
he was just horrible in the in the way he
was singing, and it was just like the full culmination

(01:10:23):
of what a piece of crap this dude is. Brendan Um.
Can we talk about the dress, the outfit, the weird
doctor's outfit that she was, Yeah, the white lab Katie Levin,
get it here. Katie's had a shaking I think I
think she's she's so misguided and trying to have like
our our little sweet Debbie Ryan. She can wear just
a white blazer and boots and look smoking. She gave

(01:10:47):
those white stupid sneakers and look hot and cool. Most
of us are not Debbie Ryan, and we can't wear that,
Katie Levin, take it. She looked like the manager of
like a really bad when that's trying really hard to
be hip, but everything kind of smalls weird. You're just
like the Continental Breakfast is terrible, all right, It's like
somebody that we would have to deal with, Steve if

(01:11:09):
we were touring the stand up that like as we're
taking into like not even like naughty best case scenario.
I remember saying with Howard Hughes at a Day's in
that wasn't even the days in, it was the day
in and they sold the logo from the days in
and it was like a standalone day and it was bad.
She's the w Hotel and Northridge. So then so then

(01:11:34):
they're like, wow, yeah I wrote ship and pants, ugly
singing faces. What I wrote, um, no chemistry. So Rachel's like,
I don't think they have any chemistry, and then um,
Brandon's at the end, Brandon goes, I just want to
say it was the best decision I made new confidence
because we were like, you know, we're finally performing. They're like, well,
I'm glad you said that, but it still felt like

(01:11:55):
disjointed karaoke and that you weren't that way of each other.
And then um, she was and they're like and then
Tony Braxton says, I thought you guys just had a
fight and she was trying to make up with you
and you just weren't having it. And then afterwards he goes,
how are you, sweetie, and she goes, not well, and
then she's like, you abandoned me up there, and then

(01:12:16):
she said, I don't know if I made the right decision.
I felt really disconnected from you. And I'm like, that
bitch wishes she picked Sheridan, Like with an asshole, at
least own it. At least own your shitty decision. I
don't then go always should have picked the nice guy,
like you don't. There's a camera on you. We can
hear you being this awful person. Brendan Smith, Yeah, you

(01:12:39):
made your bed baby, that's the bottom line. You made
your bed, David heighten Er. Well, you know when they
did that little backstory that all the judges said, Oh,
I'm glad I have the backstory now it's the worst
backstory in the world. And the idea that we were
we were with other people, but we needed each other
so much that we left other people so he could

(01:13:00):
finally be together. And well, there you go, that's why it.
There's no chemistry, dude. And then we have okay, so
then we have next up, there's uh, Natasha and Ryan.
They were saying this song by ray La Montaigne and
it was a show stopping performance. She can bring it

(01:13:20):
and he did not get ridden over and he had
his falsetto at the end. And yes, it's a grown
ass woman and a little baby boy. But like they delivered.
And even if they're in this like okay, we're just
gonna do this as a contract, like Rudy and Matt,
I'm fine with that. I'm for it. I loved watching that. Brendan, Yeah,

(01:13:42):
you know, I I don't. I would never buy them
as a couple either, because their uniforms don't quite match.
They don't hang out at the same bars in the
Venice Marina del Rey area at all. But she's more
Cabo Cantina and he's just more of stay home with
his bros and you know, smoke some weed and uh,
you know, play video games. But um, but they nailed it,

(01:14:06):
and and I did. I wasn't even bothered that his
giant body kind of covers up it looks like he's
playing like a little toy guitar because he's so giant.
But I I enjoyed watching him play guitar. I think
he used the guitar well versus that who. He made
it more sexy and funny, made it fun and cool,
and like he's talented Stephen Heightner, he did make it fun.

(01:14:29):
But but I think on the overall show wise, he's
paying the biggest price for that matchup because I think
he might be the most second most talented person on
the show. And he has this sweet, beautiful voice with
a great timber and then he's got Tina Turner going
crazy next to him, and he's not getting that focus. No,
he's with Mariah Carey, and I think the producers know

(01:14:52):
that the producers knew he was a star, but he's
a quieter being, and he's a different flavor, and that's
why they keep trying to put him with Jamie and
she's having none of it. And so I think if
Jamie had been open to it, he would have been
maybe come back around. But like, I think the producers
know that she's a solo act Natasha, no doubt, this

(01:15:14):
is not and she was connected with him, like and
she was gracious and generous on stage, but it's just
her voice is so diva. She's you know, Seline Dion.
It's not Seline Dion and friends. You know. I also
feel like, um, she could go top four on any
season of the Bachelor. That's sort of how I'm I've

(01:15:35):
been looking at her, especially last night, like I really
feel that she could get to hometowns. I don't what
do you really think she could do something? You think
she can do top she's top seven to seven, I
think her. I don't think she's like sorority enough, top four,
fair enough. I don't think she ever gets to three.
But I put her at my top four. Well maybe

(01:15:58):
on Peter's season where Base as much as much as
he wanted to say he was a good guy, he
brought the four hottest youngest chicks. I know he's now
dating Kelly, like they just like he and Kelly are
now dating. It's like, thanks for dragging us all on
this waste of time when you could have just met
at that hotel in the valley and hooked up. Then

(01:16:20):
they were so thirsty. He was so thirsty that he
needed to like drag us all around town. Oh so,
I mean, I I he picked the best one. I
really liked her, but like, come on, um, okay, we're
gonna take a break. We'll be right back. I don't

(01:16:40):
know about you, but things are getting so hot. I
think I gotta take break. Okay. So then so they
were the final performance, and uh, they were just great,
and I did feel I agree with you, Steve. I
feel like poor Ryan is he is the most screwed

(01:17:01):
by the pairings. He would have been fun with Rudy.
He would have been nice to Bree anybody, but she's
Natasha is great. But he he did at least not
get as he didn't get last week. He was completely
written over, and this week he was, well, here's a
good thing that's happening. She is because he's not stupid
and he knows his voice and it's hard for him
to get that voice out with her doing what she's doing.

(01:17:24):
But he is getting better at his performance skills because
I agree with you. I agree with that he's getting
better chops. Um. So then the backstage afterwards, Um Julius
says to Natasha, you are a bad person, and she's weeping.
She's blaming Natasha for her bad performance. Basically, she's like,
what you did today another performer should never do to

(01:17:46):
anyone is vindictive. Um, you seem to not have good timing.
And it's like, now, to be fair, what she did
do with shitty, But I don't think that was the
main problem with why her song sucked heightener. Uh. No,
First of all, I've already made myself clear what she
did was as horrible a thing you can do to
somebody fifteen minutes before a performance as you can do. That.

(01:18:08):
Being said, you still got to go out there and perform, right,
And what happened to her was really done to her
by her partner, who basically did not connect with her
and just left her out there to die. And of
course she's blaming the other woman. And by the way,
he also is the one that nodded yes, I would
have picked the other one. He's the ship bag. That's like, no,

(01:18:30):
I didn't say that, you know. And when she brought
it up, he's like, no, no, it's not no, I
didn't definitively say that. Like he again denied it, and
then he said this phrase, this was the most traumatic
seventy two hours since combat. Oh didn't I didn't hear that.
Did he actually say that, Well, here's what's happening, which

(01:18:53):
I didn't think possible. He just went down more in
my eyes just right now. I didn't that was possible. Yes,
Brendon Trevor, the worst seventy two hours of your life
is going to be when I kidnap you and bring
you back to my apartment. Brandon, Oh, Brandon, the worst
seventy two hours of your life is gonna be when

(01:19:15):
I kidnap you, I bring you back to my apartment,
strap you to a goddamn chair, I make you listen
to nothing but Black Flag, the Ramans, Pat Benatar, cheap trick. Yeah,
for three fucking days until you feel the power, the
power that you do not have. I can't wait for

(01:19:37):
this weekend. So then three backstages. I'm so happy. I
love Chris My life is changing. I've prayed for to
change and change it. I'm happy for them. Then we
have um. Julia is furious that Natasha. I'm so angry
at her. And then Julia got cut and Brandon says, sorry, baby, sorry,

(01:19:58):
I'll let you down. And then that moment, because it
had been down to Jamie and her fellow and Julia
and Brandon, and they cut Juliet and Brandon and then
Jamie the asshole, starts weeping and Jamie needs all of
the attention even though they cut Julia, and they're like,
say your goodbyes, and Jamie's a handful. And then the

(01:20:21):
asshole that is Julia says he treated it like a
solo performance. I wish I could go back and choose Sheridan.
She has no manners. How could you say that? Brendan Smith?
Were you enraged when she Yeah? Yeah, let me just
say this. I just felt like so many bad decisions
were made. Basically, four people were eliminated with one bad decision. Yes,

(01:20:47):
that's that's all that I have to say about that. Yes,
And also next week they're going in the tour buses. Stephen,
Were you enraged at Julia? And she said, I wish
I could have gone back and picked Sheridan. By that point,
it was just it's the only opinion she could possibly
have because it has to be about somebody else, it

(01:21:07):
has to the blame has to lay elsewhere. So for
her to say, oh h, Sheridan wouldn't have done that
to me, like, it has to be about somebody else.
It can never be about my behavior through this entire
thing has been so disconnected. I'm so embarrassed by my
own behavior on this show, not for a second. No,
she's terrible. She just blames everybody else. And then next

(01:21:30):
week they get into each person gets a tour bus.
That's that's not cheap. Each person gets a tour bus
and each couple but that's five buses or four buses,
and they go to Vegas. So we're down to Brian, Chris,
Trevor and Jamie, Rudy and Matt and um uh Ryan

(01:21:53):
and what's her name, Natasha? Who do you think is
gonna win? All right? Well, I think it's pretty to me.
Um Chris and Brie are gonna win, and then Jamie
and watch his name are gone next week. Seems to
be about ninety percent chance of both of those do
anybody disagree with that? Um, I think Kris and Bree
might win, but I don't think they're the best showman.

(01:22:16):
I think they're the best love. I feel like I
still think Rudy and Matt or Natasha and Ryan are
not out of the game. Yeah, but the idea of,
let me add this the first of all, the whole show,
the conceit of the whole show makes no sense. Okay,
let's just look at that, right that the idea that
you have to be in love to be able to
sing together, that you couldn't possibly have any performing skills

(01:22:39):
or any acting of that. So when you get down
to the end, you have to go with Chris and
Brie because you set up the bullshit to begin with.
That makes no sense. You're gonna go with a couple
that's phoning the love in on the end of your
listen to gonna be the runner up Rudy and Matt
or Natasha and Ryan. I don't know. I don't know.

(01:23:02):
I mean, just even just based on last night, like
where are we in the game? Last night? Natasha and
Ryan were unbelievably strong. I was a little frustrated last
night because I wish that there was a prize last night.
I wish that there had been a side prize like
the winner of tonight's show gets up, gets to record

(01:23:22):
a song, or gets five hundred bucks. Are just something
just to to signify a clear winner of the Novo show,
you know what I mean? And yeah, like they do
on American uh with race and where you get something
like that. Yeah, I wish they would have done that.
And the only thing I want to say before I
forget is, please, producers, if you're thinking, like Brendan Smith,

(01:23:47):
all the tour buses are gonna stop in prim Nevada
and we're gonna do a show at Whiskey Beats, please
deliver that to me next week. I am all in
on that. I'm looking at our Will you guys help
me pick a tweet of the week? Yeah, all right.
First one is from our girl, Cheyenne Constant at Trixie Firecracker.
I feel robbed that we had to share Chris and

(01:24:08):
Bree's performance with Jamie freaking out for the fifty week
in a row or fourth, I don't know what time
it is anymore. I did get to see the kiss
that reminded of me of Michael Jackson and Lisa Marie.
That's a good one. She's she's she's always so funny.

(01:24:28):
Lizzie Jizy at Lizzie Jessy raps. Tony Braxton commands a
huge presence. Brandon having to say something about someone he
knows nothing about. That's what it was. Tony Braxton commands
a huge presence. It's insane how obvious it was. This
is also from Shyenne Constant Trixie Firecracker. I would so

(01:24:50):
watch Rudy and Matt at like a small venue on
a Tuesday night if the tickets were like twenty five
dollars with parking included. Um, I like that. Jeszy Lizzie
at Jessy Lizzie raps. Two biggest implants on the judges
panel aren't Tony Braxton's shoulder pads. They're Brian ABIs Solo's cheekbones.

(01:25:16):
Um okay. And then Jesse Lizzie has two more. Um
Ryan serving the good doctor. Look at the spa. Also,
Ryan looks like a cult leader, and Jamie looks like
a cult member whose mom has been trying to get
her to come home. Oh my god, that's totally true.

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All right, let's narrow it down to two. I'm gonna say,
Jane Constant at Trixie Firecracker. I feel robbed that we
had to share Chris and Bree's performance with Jakie Jamie
freaking out for the fift week in a row or fourth.
I don't know time anymore. Um, I don't know time
no more. I get I did get to see the
kiss that reminded me of Michael Jackson and hurry and

(01:26:04):
also like him and Jessy Lizzy at Jessy Lizzie Raps.
Two biggest implants on the judges panel aren't Tony Braxton's
shoulder pads. They're Brian Abostolo's cheekbones, cheekbones or Michael Jackson.
I'm gonna start, so I'm not the deciding factor. I'm
gonna go with Michael Jackson. Um, and cheekbones are Michael

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Jackson let cheekbones. Okay, So we have one for cheatbones,
one for Michael Jackson. Okay, Katie, cheekbones are Michael Jackson
cheek bones alright, Heightener, so we have two cheekbones, one
Michael Jackson. Heightener, Well, I said go with Michael Jackson,
So I'm going with Michael Jackson again. So We're tied

(01:26:50):
to Michael Jackson to cheat Bones, Brando of the Brando
Cast where he have Wherever podcasts are what's your pick?
Cheekbones or Michael Jackson cheek Bones? Oh my god, you're
the lawyer Jesse Lizzie at Jesse Lizzie robs too because
it plans on the judges panel? Aren't Jonny Brekfashulder pets there,
Bran Abisolos cheek Bones. You guys like us on iTunes,

(01:27:12):
pleasely risk reviews. Here's one that we got this week,
peeing my quarantine pants over here five stars from a
sl camp. I'm relatively new to will you except this
rose A friend suggested to me right after Peter's finale,
and I've been listening ever since. I even watched one
Poblo season just to follow along with y'all. I joined
Patreon today because I just could not get enough. Thank

(01:27:34):
you so much. I'm a nurse, and Arden and the
Horny Gang have kept me laughing throughout all this pandemic mess.
I totally feel like I'm hanging out my friends when listening.
Great podcast. Oh my god, thank you for joining Patreon,
Thank you for listening, Thank you for your service and
we love that you're here. Welcome to the gang. Here's
another one. Five stars My favorite podcast by Jesse Gene three.

(01:27:56):
I've been a solid listener for a few years. I
love all the deep diving in foe that has shared
on this podcast. During quarantine, I'm trying to save the
show for my long runs on Sunday. Thank you so
much for doing the Lord's work. Truly, Jesse, it is
my honor and pleasure. It is the least I can do.
We know it's a tough time for everybody, and we
just want to provide a little bit of joy and

(01:28:17):
a little bit of lightness, just to have a nice
fun distraction. Uh, just to check out a little bit,
and let's hear some emails. Um This is from a
nice email from Caitlin Sullivan. Hello Caitlin, um Art and
and friends. Number one, congratulations on your new book. I'm
so excited to read it. Thank you for she did

(01:28:38):
a little preorder. Thank you, Caitlin, I I really appreciate
you spending your hard earned money on my book. I
hope you enjoy it. Number two, thank you for continuing
to do the Lord's work. At the world's end, It's
helpful to have some sense or normalcy around here. Well,
it is my pleasure. I'm doing it, you know what.
It makes me feel normal to it really in as

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if for those long time listeners, know, life keeps happening,
and there's something about just focusing on some nonsense for
a few hours that really does. It changes my brain chemistry.
That she's got five points number three. Thank you for
introducing me to Bachelor in Paradise Australia a k. The
greatest television show of all time. Okay, right, if you

(01:29:20):
guys have a dream Patreon Yet, Anna, you're gonna have
to back me up on this. That's where in Paradise Australia,
particularly season one, before they started like they had it
figured out to play how to play the game yet.
And I've said this before, but there's like three couples
on there. They are as exciting as Carly and Evan,
And isn't it And it's in such a beautiful location,
don't isn't it just like being on vacation watching it, Anna,

(01:29:42):
It's so beautiful it is, And it's a great season, Katie.
I don't know if you've watched that first season of
Bachelor in Paris, Australia. I have noted it's as soothing
as watching the Great British Blas. I was just gonna
ask it like that because everybody's nice and supportive, because
I love that it is like the TV version of Prozac.

(01:30:04):
It's and I have to watch it because I need
something like that, like a hot bath. And you still
have some like Epps and salts left and you can
get it, but also put in some nice lavender and
bubbles like it's gonna actually get some like muscle knots
out and have like a frilly set. It is and
it's the most beautiful resort. Number four you may not
remember me from your live show in Chicago a few

(01:30:26):
years ago, but my offer to be your personal assistant
still stands. I do remember you. We had so much
fun on that pouring night. Um Quarantine also seems like
an excellent time to bring some fans on his panelists again.
I would like to be the first volunteer as tribute. Please.
I'm quarantined with my mother, who hates trash television. I
need someone with whom I can share my thoughts and

(01:30:48):
be with my who has understanding. And then number five
Asher could totally get it right? Or am I just
now at that intersection of single and quarantine? XO x
O Caitlin, Oh god, she to being aush er. And
I feel like that's a fun idea to have some
people call in and discuss their thoughts on um Listen
to your Heart, don't you think? Yeah? I think that

(01:31:10):
would be fun. I'm sure people have thoughts on this
absurd show that keeps changing. I mean, it's only six
episodes long, but email as if you're watching the show
and you want us to zoom you, maybe we'll maybe
we'll pull out of a hat and have two people
zoom with us, and we could talk about Listen to
your Heart? Why not? Why not do a fan episode?

(01:31:30):
Why not? Um? So, Caitlin, you are a delight. Of
course I do remember you. That was such a that
was that show was literally like I sort of got
it was like three people, but I think there was
probably like thirty people that came because it was when
I say, I think they closed the roads like it
was there was more rain than I have ever seen
in my entire life, and I feel like there was

(01:31:51):
like winds and maybe tournaming. It was a crazy Chicago storm.
And we had some die heart that came and they
came with their sterboard and they made we put out
request for people to like put up all the photos
of the guys and the gals on the board, and
they showed up. And that's why we have the best,
don't We have the best podcast listener fans on the

(01:32:12):
worldwide web. Katie as the most passionate. All right, if
you want to hear more of us, we have our Patreon.
We're just finishing up Love is Blind and we are
open to either doing Summer House. We could do Love Island,
we could do Bachelorette New Zealand. Email us what you

(01:32:34):
want us to watch? Um and and that's what I
have to say. Steve Heightener, where can people find you? Oh?
That's gold with Steve Tightener the podcast I've been doing
as I am quarantined in my home. Other than that,
maybe in a reflection in a in a window. Other
than that, maybe we're also going to drag you onto
our bad dates. You're gonna be I'm happy, happy to

(01:32:57):
talk about my history. Okay, great, Brando? Where can people
find you? The Brando cast dot com one word with
links to Spotify, Google Play, Stitcher, and most importantly Apple Podcasts,
where you'll find the Brando cast. So many great shows.
Jimmy Pardo's coming up for the second time, I'm doing

(01:33:17):
Matt Walsh Tonight's. Um, we got Keith Morris from The
Circle Jerks coming up. Blah blah blah. Steve Heightner said
that he would do it. It's gonna be amazing. What
baby do you want to do? Steve ac DC? What's
your bail? Aerosmith? Then then we're gonna be We're gonna
be breaking down Aerosmith, a little band from Massachusetts with
Steve Ightner. Not to distant future. Um, all right, Katie,

(01:33:41):
and where can people find you? I'm just at Anna
Hostin on Twitter. Katie, I'm Katie Underscore Money on Twitter
and Instagram. I am art Marine on Instagram and Twitter.
A R D E N M Y R I N.
If you're new to the podcast and you're like, how
can I join in the tweeter of the week, you
just tag me or Ann on and Twitter and then
you put a hashtag of w y A t R

(01:34:03):
and that's how you get included in the tweet of
the week. So we always love hearing from you guys. Also,
I have a book coming out is called Little Miss
Little Compton. Steve Heighter has been a Little Compton. It's
about my family, my crazy family, growing up in a
small town, getting on the TV by the time I
was twenty one. I mean this ding Dung, Mr Heightener
over here, I talked about accidentally kicking Courtney Cox in

(01:34:26):
the face when I did an episode of Friends. All
sorts of things. We're in it, and if you get it,
please send us the UM. But I'll get more specific
as our posts are coming up. But we will as
we get closer to the release date. I have so
many fun giveaways and so even if you send them now,
the receipt you'll be eligible because we're doing so many
fun giveaways is just a little bit out yet. So
I'll be doing more t shirts about even more fun

(01:34:48):
things coming up. Okay, well, everybody, we have two more
weeks of this perfect length of the show. It's the
perfect show, um, and then we'll be back with our
one Pablo Ups. Speaking of which, Jerry Traynor, who's doing
that with us. He had said I will not watch
listen to your heart and then that ding Dong could
not help himself and it has been obsessively texting us

(01:35:09):
every Funday night, so he will be joining us next
Monday because he is so angry at listen to your heart. Um.
Thank you guys so much. Stephen Brendan. We appreciate your
service to this. You are such a welcome member of
the podcast family. It's Gold with Steve Heitner. The Brando
Cast support their podcast. I'm Martin Marine. Stay safe, wash

(01:35:32):
your hands. We're rooting for all of you. Hope this
was a nice distraction. I hope your families are safe.
Goodbye bye. Oh yeah, I just got bush girl. Will

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