"HAPPY HAPPY, BUSY BUSY!" w/ Nikki Glaser

Comic superstar Nikki Glaser joins us on a very special episode to discuss this season of LISTEN TO YOUR HEART! Pandemic Passes! The lead singer of TRAIN! Happy happy, Busy Busy!"

- Arden's dream is to get a reduction and a lilt, wear a deep V 1970's Halston Jumpsuit and throw an ashtray at a wall!

- Nikki suggests that EVERYONE NEEDS TO GET THEMSELVES a HOME KARAOKE MACHINE!!

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to Will You Accept This Rose? Our production of
I Heart Radio. Oh yeah, I want to get all
I just got a little bush girl, you know what

(00:21):
I will accept. I appreciate you asking. You know my
centers are little right now, it's been not a tone
of human context. I'm in my bougie garage getting a
little dank in here. Oh my god. Welcome to a
very special episode of Will You Accept This Rose? Listen

(00:45):
to Your Heart Edition. My name is Arden Marine. I
am coming to you from my bougie garage in Los Angeles. Guys,
here's the thing. I fought this show like like some
unnecessary school as. I meant. You know, when you host
a Bachelor franchise and all of a sudden pop quiz
comes up, and you think I thought I was done

(01:06):
for the semester, but here comes another pub quiz. Obviously,
I'm going to throw myself in because I want to
go to the Harvard of Bachelor the World. Obviously, I'm
going to do the work. And at first I fought it,
and now I cannot wait for Monday night because I
am gonna say I accept your Rose Listen to my Heart,
and I I am curious to hear the perspective. There

(01:27):
is a woman who we love, who is a friend
of the podcast, who is a friend of mine. You
might know her from the Comedy Central roast. You might
know her from her kick ass Netflix special that was
one of the biggest specials of the year, Nicki Glazer
bang In. You might know her from her serious XM
radio show that she did for years and also on

(01:48):
the same title on Comedy Central. You up her name,
Nicki Glazer. Thank you, Arden I you're happy to be here.
I actually m do you and requested this lovearance because
I need someone to talk about with this with the
show about because I love it. I don't feel like

(02:10):
as many people are talking about it. Um, it's just
me and my parents watching it every week. I love it.
I never wanted to end. I'm so sad it's just
a six part series. Yes, it adds so much to
the Bachelor franchise that we weren't gonna cast. So many
unexpected things about it that I didn't know I would
love and I absolutely love and I'm I knew you

(02:31):
would love it too, So I have care do your
What are your parents names? E J and Julie so
um e J and Julie And for those of you
who don't know, but I've been following on Instagram, Nikki
has been very good, very good at social distancing. She
is taking taking good care in Missouri with her parents.

(02:51):
E J and Julie. Do they like it? They only
watched it because, um, I had to do I did
uh podcast with Nick Vile Ophiles or maybe it was
a nask Nick or something, but it was about listen
to your heart and he sent me like it was
gonna be about the first episode. So he sent it
to me and said, I'll watch the first episode just
so we can talk about it on the podcast. And
I asked my parents to watch it with me, and

(03:13):
we were hooked. It's yes, I mean, it's so good.
The people are more real than you usually get in
The Bachelor because they're actual. They're not just there because
they want to be on a reality show. There they
have to actually have talent, which it boggles my mind
that some of them actually do have talent, because they
seem like such perfect archetypes for a reality show. Oh
my god, don't even get me started with Natasha. Oh

(03:35):
my god, Natasha is incredible. And also Savannah was she
the yoga, the one that went the yoga Starctor if
she she could have easily like pounded her way through paradise,
like she could have easily been nailed in a hot
tub in Psi Elita and been a hot commodity there.
She didn't need musical talent. No, she did it. None
of these people did. But they had it. A lot

(03:56):
of them haven't, and it's it makes them so much
more compelling to watch. Now. I have to tell you,
I agree with you. The first night when Matt got
out of the car and I couldn't figure out if
we were in Calabasas, I didn't know if we were
at the same mansion. And then I realized it was
much more glamorous, much more kind of rocking. I found
out there near their chats Worth adjacent fans there at

(04:17):
the Hummingbird nest Um Ranch. Wow. And it's but the
lighting on the side of like when they light up
the rocks, like the shots of the you see you
see jack rabbits bouncing about, and then it's like they're
out with coyotes and stuff. It's like porn stars and coyotes.
And that's rehab facilities, rehab facilities, and they just go

(04:41):
right when they get kicked off, right to rehab or porn.
You get your choice of the two. Do not pass
go And I will say, Matt when he got out
of the car the first night, had didn't know Chris
Harrison's name, which was such a jewel. Now, what a
refreshing element to this, that that these people are not
They didn't grow up watching The Bachelor and Bachelors, not
obsessed with the show. They don't know the twists and turns.

(05:02):
They don't know even like somebody like Matt. They don't
know the splitting of the hairs, of the phrases that
I think I'm falling in love with you. That doesn't
mean if somebody said to me in my real life,
I would think, oh, they just told me their in
love with that. That's not so, that's not so. That's
basically like a hand chase or a high five, a
handshake or high five in The Bachelor. Such a good point.
That's he didn't know. Well, I love it there. I

(05:24):
loves the element of this I love so much is
that they are not. Matt especially is not pressuring himself
to be in love after spending two weeks with someone,
and that that to him seems absurd, because it is absurd. Okay,
I'm going to I am going to give because this
is your big day, this is your sweet sixteen party.

(05:45):
I'm gonna give you the choices and you can It's
almost like on Paradise because it's not sort of a
linear thing. I'm gonna give you a choice of topics,
but it's gonna be like we're gonna get to the mall.
So you just tell me which one strikes your fancy
that you want to talk about. For us, we could
talk about the format and how it changes week to week.
We could talk about the first two weeks we didn't

(06:06):
have music in the competition. We could go by couple.
We could do the Sheridan Julia Um, Sheridan Julia Brandon. Okay, yes,
I'll take I'll take that, all right, let's start with that,
well with Sheridan and Julia Brandon. Okay, Julia, what an
interesting character. At first, she seemed like Renai's Elwiger in

(06:26):
like dur Yes, she had so wholesome, said she was
twenty seven, felt like she was forty seven, and that's fine.
That's got like a divorce mom, live in her best life.
She didn't look like it. She just had the essence
of it, yes, exactly. And then and have hair, the hair,
the hair. And then sweet Sheridan who had hid an

(06:48):
urban outfitters and got all of his rings and his
rock hat and it looks Poseidon King of the Sea.
Yeah yeah, and just such a cherubic sweet presence, always
playing the piano. Never really yeah. Sorry. We have Brandon
who is a professional sniper, a sniper that was his job.

(07:11):
He was a he had gotten out of the marine
like recently, and where he was the first one that
we met the opening night. He's like, well, I was
a marine, I served a couple of tours. I was
in the sniper unit, and now I served as he's
like a professional, like he's like a bodyguard now because
he was a sniper. He definitely killed lots of people,
like and he's good at it. And then when you

(07:33):
see how he sniped all of the ladies brains and like,
like the fact that how his gas lighting was at
the level of a sniper was handifor Nicky Glazer, would
you bang? Would you bang Brandon? No? I would have
you know what I say, No, But I've I've fallen
for Brandon's before, and I think that's the only reason
I would say no now is because he just makes

(07:55):
my skin crawl of how the way the girls felt him, though,
I think there's probably something in person that I probably
now even knowing what I know, would probably fall victim
to his charms because they were crazy about him. There
seemed to be really no depth to his character. He'd
never really seemed to ask about them. He just kind
of like looked at them with his sniper eyes, his

(08:18):
sniper eyes, like he would kind of like squint at them,
like he was getting into focus and zooming, you know,
looking at them through the scope. I've thought about it.
It's fully through the scope. I've thought about this quite
a bit. He was the and correct me if I'm wrong.
I think he's the only alpha male that was in
the house except for that terrible Wa Boom guy that
was the first night, that terrible guy trying to get

(08:40):
a catchphrase, Joseph Matt Joseph Matt Donald, Matt Donald, the
Wa Boom guy who was trying to get the kiss.
I think the only alpha that lasted the first night
was You're so right, they're all um and they're all
a feminine. They're all feminine energy because art delicate tend

(09:01):
to be. I actually, um was went to go see
this woman who was giving me advice about like she
my friends like engaged now because she was like getting
therapy from this woman who wrote a book called Getting
Too I Do. Her name is Dr Pat Allen, and um, I,
so I paid for a session with her, but I
was like, I read your book. She like has this
concept of there's like feminine energy people and masculine energy people.

(09:23):
And just because you're a feminine energy man doesn't mean
you're you know, gay or meant to be a woman.
Or if you're a masculine energy woman, it doesn't mean
you're a man or a tomboy. It just means that
you like kind of you're the alpha, and there's something
wrong with being the beta, even though that has negative connotation,
and so does feminine energy has negative connotation unfortunately. So
I really struggled with it because I didn't want to

(09:45):
be a feminine energy or I didn't want to be
a masculine energy woman. I don't want to be a
man woman. And so I fought it and I was like, okay,
and you have to have one of each so a
relationship to work. Want us to be the femine energy,
want us to be the masculine, it doesn't matter who.
And I just was like so mad because I was like,
I don't want to be the masculine. So I was
trying to be feminine. I was trying to like be
more flirty and quiet, like receiving, which is the feminine energy,

(10:06):
and it was not working for me. I had one
session with this woman and she was like, she was like,
you're a masculine energy woman. There's just no doubt doubt
about it, and you need to be with a feminine
energy man. I'm like, but I'm not attracted to them all.
I like all I like her comics and she goes,
those are those are feminine energy men. To be a
to be a comic on stage, for a woman, you

(10:26):
gotta be a little bit more like sassy and confident. Yes,
to be a man, you have to be sensitive and
more emotional than most men to put yourself up there.
So genuinely like, artists tend to be feminine energy men.
So that made sense. Sorry, that was a huge like,
but but then show you're so right. He was the one.

(10:47):
That's why everybody's little panties were doing summersaults, like like
he and it and it's that sniper. It's like the
ultimate alpha. I mean he's literally a sniper. Like there's
something so you don't yet, I mean that is and
he's the ultimate bad boy and the only alpha in
the house because I'm like, why do they like him?
I couldn't figured out and he wasn't even a good

(11:09):
singer when he got that bat Pat Benatar song, and
like watching him sing and sing out of the side
of his mouth was brutal, Like do you think she
should have just taken a hit like Matt seems to
be doing a little bit with Sweet Rudy and just
been like, hey, Sheridan and I we make great music together.
I can handle make an now with them. I don't
have to like bone them, but like just sort of

(11:31):
like make out, keep it friendly. But like, no, he's sniper.
The pull of the sniper was too it was too strong.
It was too strong, and she was she couldn't help
the way she feels that's is like the really kind
of honest thing about the show is that Chris Harrison
keeps saying that it's you're there for love first is
the second. And the girls, or at least so far,

(11:52):
have tend to follow their hearts more than the misk
and they are off the show because of it, because
it's like they have been pulled in the wrong direction
because of it. And how real is that? How many
times have I been derailed artistically because of some man
I was chasing and I wanted to make this work.
Like Julia, Julia got pulled in the wrong direction, and

(12:15):
but she had She couldn't lie about her feelings with Sheridan.
She just wasn't into him. She was such an interesting
character because she was such a hypocrite, like she was
attacking Savannah for being phony, and yet she was openly
phoned like did she was staying it was truly okay,
like a moth, like, oh, this lights in front of me. Okay,
I'm gonna go to Sheridan. But it's all energy all

(12:37):
she used to me, like listening to he and Savannah
rehearsing like her. And then when she got kicked off
and he boned her like performing so terribly, and then
she was mad at herself that she openly said, I
should have stuck with Sheridan. It was sort of satisfying
watching somebody do themselves in like that, because I grew
even though Sheridan at first I thought was gonna be

(12:58):
really annoying, he grew on me. Yeah, he was annoying
at first, his journaling, his bracelets, his long hair, his
his lack of never mentioning that he lives in his car.
Yeah that what he could named it. He had he
had a super rood named Sheila. Oh good god. Yeah

(13:18):
that that was never brought up again. But I assumed
that some people the girl, like one of the girls,
would be like where so shared him where you live?
And he's like, actually have a place in Beverly Hills.
But he didn't specify, like a parking lot of a
pet Co. You know, He's like, that's that's right. Park
at night was about eleven six at the pet He

(13:40):
just I thought he was sweet. I thought he was
a way better guy than Um, than Brandon. The Brandon
made me like so furious, and he did a thing
that I think I must have gotten mad about it
because I think I really relate to this is just
wanting whatever's in front of you. It's in front of you,

(14:01):
and then as soon as it's not wanting whatever is
in front of you then and truly honestly wanting it.
And I think I was so mad at him because
I'm like, you're such a pussy. You can't just tell uh,
you know, sorry, Julia, that you don't like as much
as Savannah when you're and then when you're with Savannah,
you can't just tell Savannah that he but he just
wanted to give whoever was in front of him whatever

(14:21):
they wanted. And that reminds me do as you say that,
it reminds me of how I felt of as already
as a bachelor are truly was dangerous because he felt
like when I hear about like sex atticts like he
felt like he was the first person who told all
four women that was the final four that he was
in love with them. He told the taxidermist, he told,

(14:43):
he told like, he told all four and it felt
like he it felt like he just loved giving the
gift of watching somebody. I think he just delighted and
I think he believed it. In the moment, I believe it,
and I feel like I've done that too, with like
just projects. I guess it's like I feel like with
my life, I'm constantly like Oh my god, that sounds amazing.

(15:06):
I can't wait to do that. Let's do it. And
then like then I hear the next time like I
want to do that, and then I I'm like, okay,
I'll tell that other thing that I don't want to
do it anymore. And then I go back and I'm like, no,
that does sound really good. Okay, I'm gonna tell the
other person I don't want to do that thing. Oh god,
I forgot that is actually like you just it's like
a sickness and are you a libra? No, I'm a Gemini, Okay,

(15:26):
all right. The twins. The twins just it's just too lazy,
like defect that I don't even like about myself. It's
like I and I. It made me despise Brendan. But
he's like he's old enough, and I know I'm old
enough to I'm about to be thirties six. I don't know.
I'm acting like I'm some like young naive child like
drop it, like you gotta just stick to one, pick

(15:49):
one person and give it to them the way. But
the way he was with Savannah, I would never be
with anyone, which is just like making them break up
with you. Such a pussy move, gross, Katie thought, Katie,
if if you remember, didn't you think that he he
wanted Savannah to beg like when he when he finally

(16:10):
It's like we were trying to figure out what did
he want in that moment, and I think it felt
like he wanted her to beg him. Don't know if
that was me, but maybe it wasn't. Maybe that was heightener. Yeah,
like there was something about him. It felt like he
wanted when she was like okay, go and and he
was like and then he started chase like it felt
like he wanted her to like beg him to pick

(16:32):
her after he'd already broken up. He's a bad guy.
I think I think he's ever when when I got
broken up with one time, I just was like okay.
It was over the phone and I was like okay,
and I saw I didn't think kind of like Savannah
and he was like and I was like all right,
and he goes, I feel like you're like pissed, pissed

(16:53):
at me or something, and I was like, um, yeah, yeah,
I'm like that's to share the you did that. He goes, okay,
mad on me and he's like, yeah, she's okay. You're
never gonna use that tone with me. People getting mad
when they're the ones getting what, they're the ones breaking
up is like you don't. You don't get to do that.
I know, you get to be mad as long as
the person stopping vicious towards you, But it just has

(17:16):
a change in tone. What are you supposed to still
be like, oh, great, okay, cool, thank you, like you're
right that ship when she broke up with Sheridan and
finally when he finally got some balls and was like okay, bye,
but then he got sucked back in. He got sucked
back in. You just wanted him to actually, like finally
have some fucking nuts and just get out of there,

(17:37):
but he didn't. Speaking of women following their heart, I
felt like, and I have a theory that Jamie is
somebody's niece at ABC because they clearly want to make her.
They picked her, and she got every single first date,
like every episode she got the date, and they clearly
in their brain wanted Jamie and Ryan when they kept

(17:59):
being like are you sure and then sending them on
that weird second date like that first date with John
Mayer song, and they sounded so perfect together. I think
ABC had them peg to have the record contract from
the beginning, and she was like her her panties flipping
a like she wants Trevor. Yeah, and Ryan and Natasha's
love is so real that why would you ever want

(18:22):
to mess with that? Dude? Why are we supposed to
believe that there is anything going on there that is
like in terms of a real relationship. He looks like
his eyes just went dead when Jamie moved on. But
he knew he was talented. And here's this older pussycat
doll that's like like like a Russian mail or her
bride who's like captured him. And he's like, okay, like

(18:43):
I guess I can still be in the singing competition.
He even tried with Jamie like, he didn't ask Jamie
anything about her. He was not interested. He just sat
there and she kind of fond over him. But I
thought he definitely deserved to lose her. He was. He
did nothing special that night. He kind of um, who
did he like make He made up with Rudy very awkwardly,

(19:04):
so funny. He's forgot about them and Natasha being a
couple that we're supposed to buy. There's like actual love
there It was so comical to me where we had
to watch them going on this date and hold each
other like on a tractor like I just that day.
First of all, look, I want to go break things

(19:25):
like that actually looks so funny, but not as a
day like I want to go do that with you,
like I want to go that was the date to them,
I want to throw a minivan around with you. I
don't want to go on like a romantic I do
want to I do want to go do that. That
that very much. Yes, Bryan, Sophie and I went to
a rage room once and broke things with like sledgehammers,
and it was so fun. I bet it was any

(19:48):
time once, any time you want to. It was at first,
like oh Anna saw a video of it. We it
was we were nervous and googly at first, and then
it was so satisfying. Yeah, they play like rage against
the machine and they just let you. They like leave
you in a room. You have like haz mat suits
on and goggles and they just give you like baseball

(20:09):
bats sledgehammers like and you like you can and then
you can just break. You pay for the amount of
things you want to break. It was very satisfied. That
is so freaking fun, and like, I really do think
there would be less rapes and murders if those were
accessible to the public. It was sad. I had never
I particularly enjoyed smashing shot classes with a hammer, coffee cops,

(20:33):
We broke VCRs, we broke a television set. It was
really fun. I think of what object I wouldn't want
to break more than anything in the world. Anything, What
would you you break anything? What do you want to break?
Just we just there's a fucking lamp that just still
works that I'm staring at my dad's office, but it's
like tilted and when you turn it on it takes

(20:53):
five seconds to actually the light bulb to turn on,
and it's it's it just sucks and I would love
to just fuck brill it do it just right there. Yeah,
there's there's so many things I would love, not in
an actual violent way, but there's been like a few
moments in my life, like when I've been cheated on

(21:14):
or whatever that if you can actually hurt somebody, I
would love to be the chick that throws an ash tray.
Like I would love to pick up an ashtray and
be like are you heavy, like a heavy glass ashtray,
and I would love to be the one just look
like in front of like catching them in bed pick.
Just have an ashtray with me and just like throw

(21:37):
an ashtray like above the headboard. It doesn't cut anybody,
but like I will forever be like the crazy excent
through the ashtray. But they right when it hits the wall,
they look behind them and then they look back at
you and they're like, I'm sucking your mind. You're like,
you're damn right. I'm like looking and I'm like, try me.
I have nothing to lose. And what you want to break?

(22:00):
And what moment, what moment in your life would you
like to go back in time when you get held hostage,
the hostage on the boat, would you like to push
the hostage you want to break? Throw that captain's he
had like a giant one of those huge eight pens.
I would love to throw it at his head yea
and have it like shatter on the head. Yeah, get

(22:22):
this out of my face. Yeah, the giant clouds of smoke.
That's that's like the modern day ashtrayartage is in the
venties and her, Yes, I know, I want to be like, yes,
I want to be like looking like Gloria Stein or
like a head wrap and giant glasses. Were like, it

(22:44):
looks like wide leg pants and just like I want
my boobs to be much smaller and actually able to
stand up on the run. And I'm in like a
like a Halston jumpsuit with a deep plunging v. My
tits are standing up perfectly and I'm just throwing fucking
ashtrays at the wall. That's seriously the new me. That's
the opening scene of a show. I want to watch

(23:04):
god My first. You know what, as soon as we
get out of quarantine, I'm gonna get a reduction and
a lift and then just trying the America Try try me. Okay,
So then, how do you feel about Jamie? Are you
pro Jamie? Are you over her panic, her anxiety, her
nervous jitters because she's over it. I love Jamie's story.

(23:26):
She was truly had such low self esteem and like
no confidence, to the point where I was like really
tired of that whole charade of like, yeah, okay, you're
getting nervous again. You're Trevor has to like babysit you
through all these moments which is really actually like great
and sweet, and she needed it in the beginning. But
I felt like, unless she gets rid of this, she's

(23:47):
never gonna make it. And guess what, something happened and
she was able to click out of it and now
she has confidence. And I just I love to see
any story of a woman like overcoming this like false
name heard of that you tell yourself, because clearly all
the things that she was feeling about herself were unfounded.
She was so talented, she had the ability to go

(24:07):
out there and kill it at every every piece to
make that she she was just sounded everyone else, but
just it was only her doubt in herself and then
as soon as that lifted, she killed it. So that's
always like a great moment to see. I know, it's
interesting watching it. I'm also aware I was like, oh,
this little she's so young, and you also realized to me,

(24:29):
I look at her and I think, oh, that's just
the difference of like whatever that Malcolm Glad was just
the ten thousand hours, like like you can tell that
Rudy has put in show like time, like show after
show in smokey bars, being singers with different bands, like
she's just has the ten thou hours under her belt.
You can tell that Natasha has the ten thousand hours.
You know. It's like it's almost like with stand up.

(24:51):
Somebody could be funny, but if they've never really done
like it's do you just have to keep you just
to do it and do it and do it. And
she clearly has not performed in public. Yes, I was
on the last come standing when I was her age,
and I remember being like, you really that I didn't
belong there and having the same problem of like I
don't belong here. Everyone here is better than me. Everyone

(25:14):
knows I'm too young for this. I know I'm too
young for this. I don't have the stage presence, and
feeling like, you know, I only got this because I'm young.
I don't. It's not about my talent having all of
the stuff out. So I think that's maybe why I
relate to her more. And um and did you do
I It got the best of me. I mean I
went as far as I should have gone. You know,

(25:35):
was a year in the stand up and I was
going against like people who were decades and so. But
you know, I was the youngest person to go to
Hollywood and I was right out of college. I know
it was my first like intro into the whole world,
and I was like wide eyed and um. And then
I was sent home like almost immediately, as I have
on every reality show I've ever done my last like

(25:56):
two episodes and I'm gone. But you did Dancing with
the Star anything with the funniest I've been watching the
Michael Jordan's um documentary The Last Dance is what it's called,
and I was like, oh, that's funny, because my first
dance could have been called the Last Dance as well.
You should you should also make a documentary. I like,

(26:17):
it's a ten part, ten part series episode of ten.
Then I got my chats. What song was it? What
was the style of dance? And I had the salsa
And it sucks because I could have done better with
literally any other style was more student in my body.
I'm just like a girl without an ass, like an
awkward like I'm like, I look like a dance like
a marionette. Like doing the salsa with a marinette is

(26:38):
a little bit harder than the jive, or like even
a waltz or like anything else would be easier with
like so on strings. So it was a it was
a horrible struggle for me to do the salsa, but um,
I was stuck doing it, and um, and I shouldn't
have been eliminated so early. But it's it's fine and
I'm over it, I think, and uh, to go back

(27:02):
about the the your experience on last timing standing. I
was talking about this on on Lost Cultures does recently
when I did that podcast, like I auditioned for med
TV like five years and I got it like five
years before I actually did it, and I had just
made a tape in my living room, and um, I knew.

(27:25):
I never thought I was going to get it, and
I knew that if I went, I would last like
two episodes because I'd never done any of the characters
in public. I had never done like Groundlings or I
had no I had no ten thousand hours under my belt.
So tricked someone to give you this. They were just
they fell for like a a little quick yes, this

(27:49):
based on nothing. I knew I could do the actual
performance I did not. I knew I couldn't survive the
politics of it, which is very much like s N
Now I knew I wouldn't. I didn't have the chops,
and so then I went and I quietly did all
the classes like aet I oh, and I did classes
that like, I went and I did it, and I

(28:10):
arm and I started performing and doing sketch shows and
doing improv every week. And then like four years later,
I did it right. But but I feel like a
guy would have just done it and started swimming. I
feel like a guy who'd been like, thanks for giving
it to me, Yeah, I I of course, no, I've
never done I've never performed any of these anywhere, never. Yeah,
And then that guy would not have a long career.

(28:31):
That's true. I really didn't think like, but we were
smart because we were you're not. We weren't under selling ourselves.
We knew that we weren't ready to perform at that
level because a time, That's why when people are like
she this young girl coming up, Nikki, I'm like, I'm sorry,
I have years of on her, like she might be
a phenom and like who cares? But like there is

(28:52):
something with what that comes with experience in this business
that you just can't get, you can't just manufacture. It is.
And I think back to Jamie, I do think like
when I see when she keeps saying I was just
an awkward girl in my bedroom. Like I'm like, oh,
she's literally never maybe YouTube, yeah, like our school talent. Yeah, YouTube,
that's it. I remember Matt TV. They would hire people

(29:13):
from YouTube and they wouldn't last that long. And again,
now it's sort of different because I feel like the
world has changed and I feel like some people have
gone and thrive. But like at the time, because a
lot of it was live, it was harder because I
didn't have all you haven't you know what it is,
you haven't bombed a bunch of times like you have to,
Like if you bombed a bunch of times and you've
survived and then you figure out how you're not gonna

(29:34):
fucking bomb, you know, like that that's it. It's sad
to say it, but like you do have to have
those moments, and I still have them to this day.
Of Like the other day, I was on Conan and
it went great. No one noticed that it. It wasn't
an A plus performance. No one would watch that and
be like Nikki, that wasn't great. But for me, I
just didn't. I felt like it was a C. Like

(29:54):
I just I know what I'm capable of. It was
a C for me. Everyone else was like I can't
even believe it, and I tortured myself in the coming days,
like I taped it on Monday. It aired on Thursday,
and I could not let it go. I was just
like my parents like thought, I was like crazy, like
I was crying. I was just like, I funk up everything.
I'm I'm I've gotten lazy. My work ethic isn't as

(30:15):
like why would I even why wouldn't I not work
hard enough for Conan. Conan is the most important show
that I could ever imagine being on, and I squandered
it and they're like, you're crazy. I'm like, you'll see
what it airs. It's not good. It airs, it's great,
you know, like everything. However, I do think it could
have been better. And I the only way I was
able to get through that disappointment in myself because I man,

(30:37):
I could have really taken a sledgehammer to some stuff.
You needed an ashtray and it, dude. I was. I
was nuts this past week because of this, because I
had these three days before it aired where I felt
the validation that people are like, good job, and I
was just like, I screwed up. And then I found
the only way I was able to like get out
of it was to be like, you won't let this

(30:59):
happen again. You know how bad this feels to think
that you didn't do as good as you could have done,
and now you will learn and you know now, But
I always you you have too hard. But what could
you have done differently? I what I want to do
in the future is for like performances, where I the
best part about myself I think on camera is like

(31:20):
I've got jokes, but it really is like being personal
and being present and not thinking about what joke is next.
So I would have practice the jokes more and done
them out loud a lot more times to my friends,
just called random friends and be like, here's the jokes
I'm gonna tell and conan. Then I would have meditated
beforehand and maybe gotten on a call with someone who

(31:41):
I'm really comfortable with just to shoot the ship to
get rhythm. And then I would have gone into it totally,
letting go of any expectations and just knowing that whatever
happens happens instead of trying to have so much control
over it. I had posted notes everywhere with different jokes
written on it. I just approached it differently. So that's
what I learned. Do you still out those where you're like,
oh my god, I've been just too long for this ship?

(32:03):
I you know, I I was talking about this last
week with Lauren Labkas, who he has been doing all
this press. God, Missy and you guys have watched it
yet our friend Laurens. You know you've heard her on here.
She is so she is the wrong missy in the
wrong missy, isn't she like we are? So we're getting
ready to see Lauren laps fucking everywhere because that felt

(32:26):
she is. So we were talking about it. If it
makes you feel any better, I really think we feel
warmed up on Zoom because we get you know, like
it's this is fun and relaxing. I get to do
I feel connected, I get to see my friends. I
do podcasts. But I think, you know, she had to
do a lot of press and and it's weird that

(32:48):
you're in your house and yet you're on Conan and
you know, like it's and there's a delay and it's
it's the crowd. Just to forgive yourself off that it's
not like it's normal times and you didn't go run it.
A couple of times at different clubs, like and there's
I watched all the things that she did, like the

(33:10):
ones that she felt funny, but I was like, you
killed it. You know. It's a more formal thing. It's
generally during the day, it's light out, like there's nothing,
there's nothing, and you're there's a delay and you're like
waiting to see if you're over talking. Like it's just
to to also forgive yourself for everybody's everybody's having trauma
right now, even if they're not, like where everybody's a

(33:32):
little off and to all doing the best that we can.
And so maybe just to forgive yourself. It's like a
new learning curve, you know, how to do out in
the real world. Maybe Nikki said, had a harder time
do we get on zoom It's so you're so right,
like the fact that I would even compare it to
my other appearances on Conan when there's no studio audience
giving you a media gratification to your childhood house. There's

(33:57):
I'm in my dad's office room away from my childhood
bedroom where all of my dysfunctions started. Like it's it's
the and there's the zoom lag of jokes and the laugh.
The laughter is just haven't been around comedy. You haven't
been around your friends for a months. I mean, think
about it. It's crazy friends. Like I finished doing these

(34:18):
exciting big talk shows and then I went folded laundry
in the same outfit away usually just done with Conan.
I walk up stage and I'm like with my friends
in the Greek room like something like the fruit trade
down my face being like I fucking killed it, and
then we go out to eat and we have something
and you're on the lot. When I ended Cone another day,
I just go, okay, thanks, and then I clicked leave meeting,

(34:40):
and then I shut my laptop and just sat alone
and like heard a bird. There's a bird in my
backyard that truly sounds like it's saying Facebook. It just goes, yeah,
that's all I heard that. By the way, you also
did your own hair and makeup. You're like, how fancy
am I gonna get? Because it's like yeah, And then
I am that Lauren was doing like she was like

(35:03):
shed Nobody told her to like hang up, so like
the host just left, just walked out of the screen
and nobody was like you can go, So she just
sat there waiting to see if she's and then eventually,
like three minutes later, they just shut the meeting down,
but like nobody was like hey, thanks, Like it just
ended and she was alone in her box. She's like,
where's my toes bag with my my coffee? No, everyone's

(35:25):
having a hard time. Everyone feels vulnerable. Everyone feels weird
in their relationships, in their job, Like it's weird. No
one doesn't feel why. I I feel nuts in relationships
that I never feel insecure it. I feel vulnerable. I
feel like I get teary over like Hallmark commercials, like

(35:46):
it's just it's just give yourself the pandemic. Pass my
friend the PP, the PP, give yourself. Everybody give yourself
the PP. There's our podcast episode title. Okay, so I
want to ask you about what you think about Jamie
and um Trevor and their love. I want to talk
about the couple's love. Yes, okay, great Jamie and Trevor.

(36:08):
I think she thinks this is it. I think he
is like, yeah, sure, I'll do this for he feels
he feels dangerous because he feels dreaming. He's got those
little dimples and he's really cute, but like, is he
in love with Jamie. No freaking way does he want
to contract? Yeah, she's cute enough, I mean she I'm

(36:29):
sure he's happy to make out with her and go
on the road with her. But like, I think she
sees hearts and rainbows, and like she screamed when he
I think it then like off camera, and they made
it look like it was on camera the way she screamed.
Because my dad goes, that's not a good look to
scream like that. I'm like, easy, dad. My dad is
always constantly commenting on how desperate all the women seem,

(36:49):
and so any like, I take it really personally because
I'm tend to be pretty desperate sure with men, or
just like I just say when I like a guy,
I'm not like playing it to the know. I'm not.
I I just tend to put it out there. So
he was just like, it's pretty desperate, and like she
didn't scream, but she did the way she was so
excited when she reciprocated that, I'm think I'm falling in

(37:10):
love with you. I think it was me. I think
she's I feel like she's getting younger every episode. I
feel like he's like she's she's a cutie pie, I've
been from her. I want I want them to be
in love and just forever. I want his love to
grow for her too, which I don't think he's full
of shi it. Like I do think he really really
likes her. I I really do. He's got like a

(37:31):
high school senior that's into him, like a hot high
school senior with like so why not? But like, I
think he likes her enough, and and I do think
there's a little bit of Stockholm syndrome where they don't
have their phones, they're not listening to music, there's no magazines,
there's no TV, so like, yeah, this is this is
what I'll do. But like, do I think that he's
not going to be on the prowel immediately? No, I

(37:52):
don't think. I hope he doesn't have sex with her
then that is all I ask of him, is that
he does not have sex with her. If he is,
he's going, he's going to these guys. And that's what
I liked about. That's what I liked about Matt was
let's talking about let's talk about Matt and Rody. Pretty.
He did not want to say I love you before
he actually felt it, which is good. However, he handled

(38:13):
it so terribly. He didn't know. He's never seen the Bachelor.
He doesn't know, he doesn't know what does well he
can the way when she when she that was so awkward,
when she put her feelings out there, and he's just
a concerts coming on the Shaggy had like a concert

(38:38):
of fifteen people. By the way, it made me also,
not only do I want to go bang up cars
and throw ashtrays at people, I also want to go
to see Shaggy and I gotta see a Shaggy concert.
It looks so fun. It was a great advertisement. You
get an intimate evening with Shaggy. You and your two
friends can go see Shaggy and then go throw ashtrays
at people in Vague. It's a perfect it's a dream weekend.

(39:01):
That seriously was like a like if Shaggy had a
fun see that that was that intimate in Vegas, I
would go and I wouldn't want to say it wasn't
me like five and no other songs. That an angel,
that angel, Okay, an angel, but he could do it
wasn't made for two hours, and I would never get

(39:21):
tired of it neither. But I but the girl next
to fit to this movie both Naked on the bat
that um. I loved that Rudy put it all out
there and said what she wanted to what she didn't
need to do. Not these girls are so like I

(39:42):
need to tell him. It's like, don't tell him. We
will always play it cool, like you don't like them
and they'll like you. War Yes, I'm saying this to myself. Yes,
always act like you like them less than you do
my friend, my friend. This felt so manipulative. But I
remember many years ago she said to me happy, happy, busy, busy.

(40:03):
I was like, what she's like, just seem like you're
like totally happy and really busy, busy, busy. I just
think when I feel needy, when I feel like insecure
and needy, I just think in the back of my
head happy, happy, busy, busy, like and there's something like
and I was like, that feels so nineteen fifties housewife,
And yet there is something about when you're spinning out

(40:23):
and you're hooked in, it's like there's nothing better than like,
I'm happy, I'm gonna go with my friends, I gotta working,
I'm happy, I'm busy, I'm cool. There's it's it's so powerful,
and it's when it's so attractive. And the thing is
that is the goal is to be happy, happy, busy, busy,
Like I don't wanna I don't want to fake that.
I really do. I want my life to be that

(40:44):
so that I don't have to fake it and because
that's when that's Yeah, that is the most attractive quality.
But that's really good women, if you're listening, really, if
you're if there's any manipulation going on in text, that's
the one to do. Just think happy, happy, busy, busy,
happy happy. Don't answer with a tude ever, even if
you have a tude, unless he's already your man, don't
ever give him a tude. That is, you can't because

(41:07):
you and that's what Rudy did. And even if thesier man,
he still doesn't want the tune. No, you try not
to have the tude. Yeah he doesn't want to. You
have a little bit more of a reason to have one.
But you can do it in person. You can do
it in person and be mindful about it, and it
after you do it with your friend, after you've reasoned
it out with your friend, you've calmed down, then go
bring it because I know for me, nobody can hear

(41:29):
me when I'm at in eleven, particularly with this voice.
Okay a minute, Rudy. I love Rudy. She's such a
fun mess. She's so talented, she feels real, she's fun,
she's throw an astrait. I can't wait for the Rudy
daytime talk show. Like she she's Kelly Clarkson energy, She's
Kelly Clarkson. She's just like a cool honky donal. Yes,

(41:52):
if she could just play it cool because you can
see the one time he's into her is when they're
performing together. If she could just hang in there. And
but I relate to that too. I don't want a
guy that only is like enamored by me when I'm
a star, because off stage, I'm not a star. When
I'm on stage, it's like, Wow, she's so confident, she's

(42:13):
so amazing, she kills and then I get off the
stage and I'm like insecure, and you know, just a
different person. And if they fall in love with the
one on stage, it's not gonna. I would like to
mesh those two, but I she does need to pull
it back a little bit. But it is interesting to
see because he's so obsessed with her as soon as
they walk off stage, like he is entranced. I mean,

(42:36):
if nothing else, I hope they win. They're the only
ones I would pay to go see in a venue.
I and and if nothing else, he should just have
her be the lead singer of his band. Um, yes,
I mean because he's talented, right, he's good guitarist from
they'd be a great bar band. They'd be fun, like

(42:58):
you could they could make like ten grand at a wedding,
you know, like they're fun. Really could, and they're fun.
She They're just you would just want them around too. Yeah,
they're fun. Okay, let's stark Chris and Bury, Chris Bree.
We have never seen this kind of love on that
like this instant, have we ever as an unprecedented Well,
somebody was pointing out on like the they're like they're

(43:20):
like there was an honest question one of the people
who did the podcast said, did we watch them fall
in love or did they literally just sit next to
each other and go okay, you like, I don't remember
watching them fall in love when it happened. It happened
like while the crew was on a lunch break or something.
It have been so quickly. It was not documented all
of a sudden, they were just holding hands and like

(43:42):
in love and they are so going to be together forever.
I would bet I more sure of their relationship than
my parents, who have been together for thirty eight years.
I so, I hope. Though. I think she's so masculine energy,
he is so feminine energy. They both dazzled by each other.
She is um. I believe I'm wondering if she's Mormon.

(44:04):
She's got to be Morman. She's gotta or she's gotta
be or she had to like leave. Oh okay, wait,
I'm gonna we're gonna do a quick ad break. We're
gonna find out that she's warm and they we're gonna
come back, but the bone zone. Let's get in the
bone zone, guys. Okay, um, we're still finding out if

(44:26):
she's Mormon, and will you find out her she's Mormon?
I feel like she has to have been. I've done
stand up at wise, guys. Isn't that in Provo? I
feel like everyone there, everyone was beautiful, and everyone was Mormon,
and it was most fun. Is like Mormon or something
ridiculous like that, and and they're all beautiful, they're all

(44:49):
so kind and nice. Oh my god, so nice, lovely
stand ups, great crowds, stunning. A lot of them were divorced,
there are, and they were talking a lot of the
comics were talking about data. They always did everybody has
minivans because they all have a lot of games. So
it's like it's everybody's very young and there's and because

(45:09):
she's a virgin, then if she's if she's Mormon, that
girl's a virgin. I've discovered something. It says she grew
up in a tight knit Mormon family, including five siblings
and a lot of nieces and nephews. That checks out.
So I'm guessing she's a verge. But I don't want
to share anything about her, but if virgin, because it

(45:30):
was like the divorce capital and I asked why the
divorce and they said, because people can't have sex until
they're married, and so people get married, they get, so
they get so they can get and then um, and
then they're like, oh, this isn't the right fit. And
then I think the second time is like, Okay, this
is the right fit. But they got their early humping out,
so she's probably don't know Chris are banging then, which

(45:52):
makes sense where they're so like all like that. I
almost feel I almost was going to write a joke
about how I feel Mormon right now because I can't
get within six feet of a man, and like if
I do hang out. I hung out with my ex
boyfriend the other day, and there's like some kind of
energy there, but it was so much more intense because
we couldn't even touch or even think about touching, Like like,
I've been like so horny since then. So there's something

(46:12):
the Mormons have going there. But maybe you should become Mormon.
I'm halfway. Well, I gotta get re um, I gotta
get sewn up. Then you should. Absolutely you should do
a kickstarter for them. Okay. One quick thing about that
I wanted you I want to know is like are
they sleeping in the same beds? And that's so that's

(46:33):
why when they got so excited that fantasy suitets were
coming up, I'm like, what, like, why aren't they all
are in the same house. It's like we're in the
same house, which difference doesn't make. It's basically paradise, and
I know I'm paradise. They have the boom boom room
on Paradise, but it felt like when they got to Vegas,
it felt like they were like treating like, Okay, Rudy
and Matt, here's your room, Okay, Natasha and Ryan are

(46:56):
great lovers. Your room? Like, did you notice the hotel
they're staying in is the one that the guy shot
a bunch of people from. They renamed that hotel. They
keep doing shots of it from the outside. We'll get
the shots from the outside of the way episode and
it's the same shots that were on like stann like
of like all the windows, but they renamed it. By
the way, the nomad inside the rooms are I have

(47:17):
to say, I thought the rooms were really cute, so cute, Okay.
I waited for you to say, because I'm like, are
my standards low? Because I didn't. I'm such a design hood.
That's a good ad for a place, because I literally
will stay there next time, because like, I really adorable.
I thought it had like almost like a fun cool
San Francisco Boutico hotel vibe. They did really job, They

(47:41):
really nailed it. Whoever, they no mad if you're rebranding
after the worst thing in the world that ever happened.
So then we have at first christ and Okay, I
think Chris is super religious too, That would make sense.
They both Yeah, they both have that energy to them.
I'm sure they of faith is like one. I'm sure

(48:01):
that's why we have no footage of them connecting and
like falling in love this because all they did was
talk about Jesus and like they really couldn't hear any
of it. So Anna, can you? I'm so I didn't
grow up with any religion. Do the Mormons have a
different God? Is there a certain person they don't? I
know about this? It's the same God, and it's spoken

(48:22):
through Joseph Smith, which was a person who wrote decided
to write a book two hundred years ago, the Book
of Mormon, the Book of Mormon, and he kind of
just wrote it based on what he wanted his life
to be. So he just kept amending it being like,
oh and also you get to like have a lot
of wives and they can wait, oh, now they can
be thirteen. God says that they can thirteen. If you

(48:42):
guys want to just get right that in your bibles.
I just talked to God last night, an he says
that we can um murder our wives. No, it didn't
get to that, but like, yeah, that's what more, they
have a real God, though they have like the guy
and this guy. Okay, I want to ask you these questions. Also,
I don't know anything, so if that was wrong, I'm so.
I actually felt like you did it pretty good. I
was like, Okay. That's Under the Banner of Heaven by

(49:05):
John Krakower. If anyone's interested in Mormonism. It's a fascinating
book about it. What is it called. It's called Under
the Banner of Heaven and it's John Krakauer who wrote
Into the Wild and a ton of other amazing books.
But it's all about how Mormonism came to be, and
it's um kind of like you know, scientology. I'm reading
a lot right now, so that's on my pile. Okay,

(49:27):
wait a minute. So here's what I'm sorry to Mormons listening.
You're so nice. I love you. You're all the nicest
people I know. So I love the little your religion
that has made up does for you. But it's just really,
do I love do we stand up in Utah? I
love the crowd I and I and it is I've
never seen a better looking I mean, everyone's distractingly detractive

(49:49):
and whatever they're reading and believing in It's scary for
your hair and skin. They have great complexions. I was
nervous that like they weren't gonna laugh, for they were
ready to roll with everything. And that's why I'm even
speaking to them, because I know they're listening to this
because they're they're cool as hell. I have tons of
Mormon friends listen it's and it's not just you. I
have tons of friends that celebrate every religion. And just

(50:11):
because I think that it might be made up, I
believe in made up shipped too, So there's nothing wrong
with that. It makes you. You're all great humans, and
I'm happy that's how you do it. Okay. The how
great is the insane assortment of judges that we have.
I loved Kesha and what's his name, Jason, Kesha's new face,

(50:31):
Jason raz Is, Jason Kesha's new face, jo Jo Jo
Jo and Jordan's and then Jason Mraz and Jason Moras
kind of having a crush on who did he love?
And let me just say again, I only say Kesha's
new face because I've had injections in my face and
I have a new face too, So you can tell
when someone has an old face and then a new one. No,
we often talk about when people have a face on

(50:52):
a face on that like, she for sure had a
face on a face. I was there for it. I
loved her face on the face too, like it actually
looked good. She looked right. I loved her dress was
the same as JoJo's dress. It was like kind of
like very similar looking bedazzled. But I loved her nails
with the with the chains connecting cool like. I loved

(51:14):
the judges are hilarious and I rolled my eyes when
they first came on, but then I was like, wait, no,
they served the purpose. This was awesome. I loved. I loved.
And then when they when Jamie and Natasha went to
the House of Blues and that we had Lauren from
Ben Higgins was with that country western husband of hers,

(51:34):
but he said his beautiful wife Lauren, and then she
just sort of danced on stage and in the video
she had a new face. Ye new face, Lauren. I
didn't recognize you, Lauren, because you're not recognizable anymore. Speaking
of face on the face, I felt like when Rachel
came with her husband Brian, I felt like Brian's cheek

(51:56):
implants had been like sort of removed. Remember he like
cheek implants. Yeah, he looked more he like you face,
but it was like his old face that we've never
seen before, like a real man, not like he because
he felt like he had Marionette cheeks before and now
he got a little too much plumper up in there.
I've been there, like I always feel for someone that
has a little did a little too much the wrong way.

(52:19):
Like I was on who Wants to be a Millionaire? Um,
like a couple of months ago, did you botox? No? Well,
I did pretty well. I got a hundred dollars UM.
At one point I cried because they said the wrong
answer and I locked it in accidentally, and I thought
that I like lost at like five thousand dollars. It
was like so embarrassing, So I cried, But I had
so much botox in my forehead that like it literally

(52:41):
I was just like and you couldn't even tell I
was crying. I was like, oh my god, like it
looks like him fake crying, but I really was crying.
But because there was no movement in my head, and
I was just like, Okay, we're gonna lay off the
botox for a minute. If this last we're gonna see
what everybody really looks like the pandemic we've just seen
a few more months to see what every and he
really looks like. Okay, wait, final thing overall, Like we

(53:05):
feel as though there's been I want more of the show.
I need it again. What is your favorite part of it?
Like the structure. I feel like there's been a different
producer each episode, like and which I kind of love
about it. I love that, like it's a completely different
show each episode, and I love it. I love hearing
the music. Who do you think it is the most
musically talented? I'm gonna go I mean, Rudy's the best singer,

(53:29):
has is the best like artist? I would say, like
I want to hear the most but musically talented, I mean,
just by what they're showing us, I'm guessing Ryan, Like
he's really good. He's so multitalented. Why are think guys
the only ones that you can play the instrument? When
he last week with my Gosh that I was so
glad that performance bombed. When they told when they said

(53:50):
that they were taking Beyonce perfect songar and Beyonce and
they were like making it more jazzy and like, yeah,
amping it up, and they were so cocky about hockey
not even gonna recognize the song. Well guess what no
one did. And that's the whole point is that that's
right because when they gave them the one from when

(54:12):
they gave Rudy and Matt the beautiful one that Lady
Gaga like, they did it as written and nailed it.
Just just give us what we want, Just give us
what we want. They made such a mistake, it was
it was so glad to see when she kept moving
the mic stand around and then he was playing the
guitar with the with the mic that was so weird.
And so, I mean, I felt for them because I've

(54:32):
been in positions like that, like where it means like
you make one mistake and then it's just it's joy,
know when you've when there's an actual physical mistake like
the mic stand and then she skipped ahead. And then
because they nailed it so much the week before, you
almost like they didn't practice as much and and they

(54:52):
were like, yeah, they loved it when we when we
danced out before, so we're going to do that again,
and like but we're taking the mic stand and the
and the mic in the guitar. It was so awkward. Yeah,
it was hard to watch. I did feel for them.
That was hard to watch the hold the keyboard up
for him for a second. It was so brutal. She uh, yeah,
that was that was real. I really have to look away.

(55:13):
And I'm not someone who gets really squeamish and when
awkward things like I don't have any problem watching the
office or curb your enthusiasm when other people are like,
it's too awkward. This made me feel so uncomfortable to
watch them bomb in front of Tony Braxton and the
lead singer of Train loved him. Oh my god. I
loved his hair. I loved I love it. I love

(55:34):
the judges. That to answer your question, that truly is
my favorite part is the performances and the judges watching
and and if you can tell if the judges don't
know what we know about their love, which I find interesting,
and if they can really actually tell in the performance,
And that's the best part of this show. Good job producers,
because you really can tell in the performance how they're

(55:55):
doing as a couple. It coms out and transparent. Do
you and Brandon like when when Natasha, I mean like
and their fight and the and just him, And way
to go Jamie for calling Natasha out on that in
that moment like no one else did of like, why
would you do that? Jamie is twenty one standing up
to year old year olds three spy, Russian spy Natasha three.

(56:24):
I want to believe it, but I can't. She's definitely
a Russian spy. She's hot, I mean I would hot.
She's Arianna Grande ponytail, She's got her ice dancer outfit
on well her fucking it's a face lift, that ponytail
and pulls it all up and I used that to

(56:44):
do that old trick. But she is um. Yeah. The
fact that the Natasha is that talented is like so annoying.
She Anna Anna loved her talent. That that's I have
to say. That's the week before she killed it. But
I felt for Ryan that he was paired with like
he was basically paired with Mariah Carry, like he was

(57:06):
paired with a woman that doesn't blend well with somebody else.
Although I did like, okay, the only thing I like,
went mouthed off about Natasha on another podcast about the show,
and I felt bad because she did come in and
she was such a bit I'm sorry, like he was
asking for people to call her like she's she's playing
the villain, you know. And then but then as soon
as she sucked up that performance and she got done

(57:28):
with it, she was like, I messed up for Ryan,
I feel bad up for Ryan. And I was like,
oh my god, Natasha has some heart and actually doesn't
care about him, and that was actually surprising, and I
ended up liking her because of that moment alone. I
have to say, I love the music part of this.
I love the song. I love I love whenever Rudy
and Matt saying I get. I cry when Chris and breezing.

(57:51):
I don't want to see that they're so boring, but
there sounds like his voice is so beautiful. I do
cry when they staying together about when they married that
other interracial couple, why that was. I cried when they
sang to them. But then we were talking about this,
I feel as though they were actors and um and

(58:11):
because when they didn't dance on this, they just stoodn't
stared at each other. They were almost they were too
they were too it was too like cute. They were
too cute. Okay, we're gonna take a break. We're gonna
come back of our discusses. The Eagle is landed. Okay,

(58:36):
we're back. Do you think they were real? I would.
I loved them as a couple. I wanted them to
be real. I love, but I did cry. I cried
when they sang. It was when they sing stand by
Me and I'm in my quarantine. I'm having my pandemic
mass by pp. You think I'm not going to be
crying watching stand by Me, don't kid yourself. It's the
music makes the show so much more emotional. It makes

(58:57):
me realize, like how much music impact smile. I I've
been like how much I want music to be a
part of my relationship, even though I'm not a musician.
Like I've been like learning piano since I started watching
this song, I've been. I got a karaoke machine and
I sing about five songs a day, just alone to
myself in my living room, just to perform and get
my emotions out. It's I sing with Taylor Swift in

(59:19):
Britney Spears songs and just like different ones that are
in my range, but just like to get my feelings
out because really, music, unlike comedy, is like such a
great way to access your emotions. I you know I
love karaoke. I mean you know, yeah, having a karaoke
machine in your living room to do alone. I do

(59:40):
it alone. When my parents go walk the dog, I
will sing Lady Gaga alone. Text me the link of
the machine you got. Are you satisfied with the machine?
You guys? I am not to be honest with you.
They sent me one for free and it's not that good.
But just research karaoke machines and find one that has
good reviews. Because my dad actually had to replace all
the equipment with his own equipment. So it's minds like
a weird one that I'm not gonna lie like as

(01:00:01):
you say that it makes my tail wag. I want
to recommend something that's been making that has been making
me anyway. In my living room, I've been doing three
times a week Instagram Live. Ryan Heffington, the choreographer who
owns the Sweat Spot, who did the CIA video with
Chandelier with the little girl he is if he's his
energy is like Jonathan from Queer Eye and he does

(01:00:24):
a live Instagram dance class. It's free. There's like three
thousand or four thousand people on it every time. It's
Tuesdays and Thursdays at tending and Pacific and Saturdays at
noon Pacific and saying you'll exercise, and then the beginning
is more sort a little bit of exercise, and then
he dances and there's different playlists, and then he makes
you go get an outfit and a microphone because you're

(01:00:46):
going to the club. And then you have to go.
He's like, you going to the club, and you gotta
show your outfit. So I go to the club. I
go to the club three times a week at ten
am every week. Oh my gosh, I'm putting it in
my phone. It is the most fun thing I do.
And you are literally and he always ended, he ended

(01:01:07):
with a little meditation, but he'll say we will get
through this, we will get through this. Yeah, just go live.
It's just live. And he is so funny and he'll
like sing into a wine bottle and so I I
have my outfits now that I have nearby that I
put on. I've got my club look. And sometimes they'll
have like Emma Stone will drop in and dance with him.

(01:01:29):
Also alive, he'll have fun weird celebrity guests like popping
and also dance, flave everything about it right now, I'm
so it's called sweat fast, oh god fast. It's the
equivalent of karaoke. And and and he'll will be like work, yes, honey,
regard to the club. And then she's saying he was
he'll go buy microphone, buy club, buy outfit like picture

(01:01:52):
Jonathan van Ness. But Ryan Heffington and you were dancing
with him. I mean, there's no speaking of tharsis. I mean,
if when I really want to get something out and
feel something, I watch one of those videos. I either
watch um uh Elastic Love or The Greatest or Chandelier
and yes, a little girl dance her heart out and

(01:02:13):
just get and like she looks like she's in one
of those rooms where she's like breaking things like that's
how the dance seals and looks it's, oh my gosh,
I can't wait to check that out. So you get karaoke,
I'll get my dance and we'll meet in the middle.
And okay, we're gonna leave with two final questions for you,
who do you think is gonna win? And fuck Mary

(01:02:34):
kill any of the guys that have been in the house.
I love it, Okay, I think um and why tell
me your reasoning of why and Rudy are gonna win?
Because it's it's it's tough, No, I think, Brian. I mean,
if the show is really about love, Brie and Chris
are gonna win. Done deal. I mean they're already like
they're in love. But if it's about music, if Chris,

(01:02:56):
if Rudy and what's his name can get it together
and like Matt and Rudy get together and he really
can fall in love with her bill Wynn. But right now,
I think it's gonna be Brie and Chris and then
fuck Mary kill and he guys, has ever been in
the house ever? Okay? Fuck um oo? Wait hold on,
remind me of other ones. We have Trevor, we have Ryan,

(01:03:19):
we have Chris, we have Matt Sheridan Brandon, and then
the wood boom oh yeah yeah yeah, okay, so I'm
going to uh fuckever. He's hot. Yeah, he's because he's on.
He's your type, you like, like you like like a

(01:03:39):
all American kinda like you like a Ben Higgins. He's
like a Ben Higgins. Yeah, he's got to sparkle in
his eye. He's just like seems really nice. He seems
hard on his sleeves very um, and then Mary, I
would marry Chris. Chris just seems like the one that's
gonna be loyal and just like thank you. I mean
the way he looks at her as like the way

(01:04:01):
you want a guy to look at you. Then kill um. Yeah,
it's gonna be. It's gonna be Sniper Brendan, although I'd
like to funk him too and then kill him because
I just want to. I want to kill him because yeah,
I just I want I want to like dominate him
and like be like, yeah, you know, I think that's

(01:04:22):
a great I think that's it's such a good you
know what. You know what you get a pandemic pass
if that's how it goes down, you had some steam
to blow off, and you know what, everyone's doing the
best that they can. And guess what, Brandon, she's happy, happy, busy, busy.
So that's on you, Boots. P P Nikky. Can I

(01:04:43):
just say what a joy? I just love you. I'm
so happy to have to have you on. What would
you like to plug? Um? Well, I have a podcast
that is just gonna be a limited series which will
take me into the next thing that I start, which
will be soon, but if you want to keep up
with me now during the quarantine, I'm doing a podcast
Monday through Friday. It's called You Up, and it's called

(01:05:04):
It's a Special Edition. It's drops on tomorrow on Monday
of May, and it'll be Monday through Friday Friday. It's
just twenty minute episodes and it's just me and my parents.
I was talking about my day and being very candid
and just it's kind of like my little Deer Diary,
and people seem to love it and it's it's so
the new version of it launches tomorrow. I love it.

(01:05:27):
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(01:05:47):
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I N and we will be back on Wednesday, will

(01:06:08):
be dropping our finale episode. Um. I said that I
thought that Jamie was going to win because she because
ABC seems to want to make her a star that theory,
and I don't think she deserves it because I feel
like Rudy should get it for the talent or christ
and Burree should get it for the love. But we'll

(01:06:28):
see if in my brain their decision to pick her,
that that it was always going to be her is
my theory that they picked it was always going to
be her. That's my theory, is that it's rigged and
they were like, she's a star. Wow, I don't. I
definitely know that that could be the case and that

(01:06:50):
I hope you wanted to not be executives making these decisions,
but ultimately it is everything that you're thinking about. Any
show is a guy in an office being like, let's
do let's let's make this happen. Because that was sadden
me just in that I feel like I've never been
the Jamie of like she's it, you know what I mean?
Like I feel like my way for everything of like

(01:07:13):
so I hate there is a world of Jamie. There
I know, I know some Jamie's like I've never like,
so I hope I'm proven wrong as a person who's
not the Jamie. I hope I'm proven wrong. And I
hope it's rudy. Or if it's really the name of
the game is love, then I hope it's brave. But
I fear that it's rigged and it's Jamie. If it's Jamie, Jamie,

(01:07:35):
it's too soon. It's only Jamie. It will be good
for you. If you do not win, it will only
make you a better artist and more layered. Like when
you do really hit it, you'll be like, remember this show,
listen to your heart. I was on that and got
second place, and it will be like a better story
than if you win. If you're listening to this, it
truly will be well. Nikki, please text us on Tuesday
because you're you'll be ahead of us time wise. Text

(01:07:57):
us on Tuesday and let us know what you think
of what happened to talk about it? Okay, what a treat?
Please stay healthy, say thank you, and you can be
nice to your noodle that you probably nailed. If you
could be nice to the noodle of now you know
what you need to do if you have to do
more stand up on online, Yep, that's it. That's remind

(01:08:20):
me of that I have to do a virtual book
tour that I'm going to be in a shame spiral
because it's gonna be a natural that if you'll be
second guessing everything, regretting all the things you said, regretting
things you didn't say, and you know what you said
them and they're done and you can't go back in September,
if I'm if I'm on talk shows, I hope I am,
and I hope I got home. Yeah, I look on
them and hopefully you know what whatever, I'm assuming it'll

(01:08:43):
be from my living room and then I'll have a
green screen. By then you'll have a really confident, fun
background that you'll you'll perfected your zoom makeup look amazing O,
my god, thank you, thank you do. I feel like
that it had the quarantine has been good for women's
like complex sens and like hair and like I just
need all getting back to like being more natural and

(01:09:05):
like healthy with real oils in our face and our hair.
Like I agree. I I can't wait. I am I gonna,
I am I can't wait for like the full natural
color to come in and see your color looks great,
Like that is I'm a strawberry blond and this the
strawberries coming in. I love it. Same like I am

(01:09:26):
a darker blonde, and I was light blonde and that's
what started. Like when I was young, I was lip blonde,
and that's what cut me in the trap of keeping
it that way. But like I'm loved bland roots aren't
that bad? I hope, I hope it all grows out.
I can't. I feel like I don't have no want
to go back to spending five hours and make a
chair every four weeks. I don't want to do anymore.

(01:09:48):
My highlight of the quarantine it's cutting my own hair.
I've cut it twice. I can't stop. I want to
get one of the razors that I can cut in with.
I do it. I can't I stop cutting my own hair.
I'm going to such a cute like Goldie Hawn Fake
nineteen seventies, like it is as yeah, it's you're so

(01:10:09):
good you like dancing in your kitchen the other day
really brought me a lot of joy. Oh my god,
thank you was like eight weeks ago. But like there
was a video of you dancing in your kitchen. That
was so cute and it got me like so happy. Yes,
thank you. So we're all just doing the best we can.
Thank you so much, can Laton, Nikky Glazer ladies and
gentle sty by guy. Oh yeah, going to get all

(01:10:35):
up tonight. Feel so good. I just gotta wanted to
push you when you read your words, Who will you accept?

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