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December 8, 2025 27 mins
The newly announced College Football Playoff field sparks immediate controversy as two first-round rematches take shape and Notre Dame is left out despite weeks of favorable rankings. The show breaks down why Miami and Alabama were selected over the Irish, how automatic qualifiers and politics shaped the field, and whether Notre Dame’s resume ever truly stacked up.Gary dives into the ripple effects across conferences, the potential future of AQs, and the chaotic coaching carousel involving Marcus Freeman rumors, Lane Kiffin’s contract twists, Brent Pry’s return under James Franklin, UCLA’s new hire, and more.Plus, a look at surprising conference champions, upcoming YouTube playoff coverage, Army–Navy week, and the continuing evolution of the sport through NIL and the transfer portal.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
On today's pot we got to talk about what just happened.
The college football playoff field has been announced. We got
two rematches in the first round. Somebody got left out
that's been in the field forever and they didn't even
play a game. We got a lot going on.

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Speaker 1 (01:40):
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(02:02):
you can knock that thing out. You can also reach
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YouTube dot com slash at Winning Cures Everything. I think
that's the way that that thing is written. Now, good gracious,
Notre Dame is out of the playoff. Alabama, Miami, James Madison,
they are all in, and as Ari Washerman would say,

(02:28):
it just feels right, right. Ari shouted something last year
about how you can't use feel to set the playoff
field right. It can't be based on a feeling. It
has to be based on evidence and blah blah, blah blah,

(02:50):
because he said that Paul Finebaum and his take on
Alabama needing to be in the playoff was going to uh,
it was the greatest threat to the sport of college
football in history or whatever it was. And yet here
we are. The committee set parameters. They followed the parameters.

(03:10):
But let's be honest, this was politics at work. This
is what you get when you put in automatic qualifiers.
And yeah, some people are upset, and that's okay because
it's going to be like that. Sometimes some people are
going to be upset at the end of the day.

(03:32):
A lot of you guys know, I am an Alabama fan.
It would not have mattered to me in the slightest
Alabama is not going to win a national championship this year.
But neither is Oklahoma. Neither is Ole miss neither's Tulane,
neither is James Madison, neither is probably Texas A and
m neither is Miami, like anybody from probably yeah, let's

(03:59):
say six down. I think Oregon potentially could. I think
Texas Tech probably cannot because of the quarterback play. But
you know, we will have plenty of time to hash
that out. Depends on the matchups. So I would imagine
Ohio State, Indiana, and Georgia all obviously can Now I

(04:21):
can't wait to see whether or not Indiana's roster can
you know, continue to do things weekend and week out
against really good, high level rosters. That's what I want
to see. But the way that this thing has shaped up, yeah,
you have to play either Alabama or Oklahoma, Then you're

(04:43):
probably gonna have to play either Texas Tech or Oregon,
and then you gotta play more than likely Ohio State
or Georgia. And we'll see if you can do that
three straight times. But anyway, let's get back to the
topic at hand, which is Notre Dame Notre Dame. Some

(05:04):
people call it a snub. I don't believe that's the case.
If you are looking at the last two at largest
Alabama and Miami, Alabama had a significantly stronger resume than
Notre Dame, like significantly stronger. So we came down to

(05:28):
Miami and Notre Dame, and Miami beat Notre Dame head
to head. The issue that we ran into is that
the ACC champion was not good enough to make the field.
So now you have two g vives that got in
instead of just one and in that case, are you
going to leave out an entire P four conference or

(05:51):
Notre Dame who has a scheduling agreement with that P
four conference and feasted off the bottom of that league.
The two most difficult games that Notre Dame played this year,
we're against Texas A and m who was the fourth seed.

(06:12):
I believe this right. They were the fourth seed in
the SEC and Miami, who was the third seed in
the ACC and they lost both games. Now, yes, they
were at the beginning of the season. I understand that. However,
they did not have any good wins to offset that.

(06:33):
Not only that, one of the teams that they were
in competition with for the last at large spot was
a team that beat them head to head. So there's
really nothing that you can say other than, well, I
think they're just playing better right now, Okay, we've tried that.

(06:53):
People get upset about that. Is it about resume or
is it about who is the better team? Notre Dame
could absolutely have won a national championship, absolutely, but they
did not have the resume to get there. That would
be like us saying that James Madison, we think James
Madison could get there, Eh, but did they have the resume.

(07:20):
We were literally contemplating Duke and James Madison. The whole
point of this is that if Duke had made the field,
I don't know that Miami necessarily would have to. But
then you have to try and tell the college football
public that, yeah, we know Miami and Notre Dame played,
and we know that their resumes are incredibly similar, and

(07:41):
we know that Miami won the game, but we just
think Notre Dame's better. At some point, the games have
to matter. And yes, you can talk about Alabama being
a three loss team. The issue there is Alabama lost
to a team that they had already beaten and they
are a top three or four team, whichever way you

(08:01):
want to call it, but they already beat them on
the road. Yes, Alabama has the worst lost or worst loss,
but they also have five wins that are better than
any of the ones that Notre Dame grabbed. So at
some point we have to start looking at what have

(08:22):
you done? And I to understand not everybody can control
their schedule. Notre Dame, however, they get to control their schedule.
They can schedule whoever they want to. Nobody is going
to turn them down. They do have the ACC schedule
agreement that they locked into and that's just to make

(08:43):
it easy. Hey, we're going to do five games against
the ACC and they even went through and schedule it
where we want the big names. We want to do
Florida State and we want to do Clemson. I mean,
that thing just got done, so that's going to be
in the future. They're trying to workout details with USC.
But USC, of course is like we play in the

(09:04):
Big Ten. Now we got really difficult games. I don't
know if we want to be going to South Bend
every other year, like I understand that. So it becomes
if your Notre Dame, basically what they've told them is
you might want to look into joining a conference if
you want to have an AQ. Now the issue with that,

(09:25):
of course, is if what Ross Stellinger is reporting is correct.
If Notre Dame did, in fact, or if the CFP
did in fact sign a contract with Notre Dame that
if they are ranked inside the top twelve, they are
in AQ and it doesn't matter, well, then all this

(09:47):
is moot because at this point next year, if Notre
Dame was ranked in the exact same spot, they would
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But at that point, your ACC champ and all of
your ACC teams would have been left out of the playoff.
And could you imagine what those meetings are like if
you leave out an entire quote unquote power conference from
the playoff. I mean, there's so many politics involved with this,

(11:49):
Like it's just mind blowing. This is what we should
have done years and years and years ago. Maybe not
years and years how about this last year. I was
pushing for this, And if you've listened to this podcast
for any amount of time, you know this. They should
have gone with AQS and that's automatic qualifiers. They should

(12:10):
have And this would require a lot of egos leaving
the room, but it should be for SEC four, Big Ten, two,
Big twelve, two ACC one, G five and three at largest.
That is a sixteen team playoff, that is thirteen automatic qualifiers,

(12:34):
and you can set it up very easily. Alabama and
Georgia would not have played yesterday. You know who would
have played? Ole Miss against what Texas A and M
or Texas A and M against Oklahoma, Ole Miss against
who's the other one that got in? Good gracious recred

(12:58):
It doesn't matter. I'm doing this while while I'm driving.
You guys know what I do. In the In the
Big Ten, you would have had two rematches because Ohio
State in Indiana earned the number one and number two seeds,
so they would already be in the like they'd be
in the playoff, So your championship weekend would really just
be a play in weekend, and instead of Indiana versus

(13:19):
Ohio State, you would have had Oregon versus Iowa and
USC against Michigan. Yes, it's two rematches, but the winner
of those two games, based on where they are in
this seeding in the conference, they get to make the playoff.

(13:41):
So yeah, Oregon was already in, but the Big Ten
only got three teams in. Now you would have had
either USC or Michigan get in. Sounds good to me.
You don't think the networks would have loved that. In
the ACC instead of Virginia having to play Duke, who

(14:02):
obviously Duke deserve to be there. They won the game.
But instead of just trying to figure out whether or
not you were even going to get a team in,
Virginia would already be in as the one seed, and
then your two versus three would go ahead and play
this weekend and it would have been Miami against Duke.
And if Miami couldn't win that game, well, then they

(14:23):
don't deserve to be there. If Notre Dame is ranked
inside the top twelve, they get one of those wild cards. Easy.
So now you've got to figure out, Okay, does James
Madison get one of the at largest We don't know
tulamb was ranked higher. The whole thing is insane to

(14:46):
think about. So I would imagine eventually we will get
to this point, but we're not there yet because doing
that would require you to pull inventory from all these
networks CBS, Fox, NBC, FS ONE, CBS Sports Network, ESPN, etc.

(15:07):
Can you replace conference championship games with playoff games? I
don't know if ESBN would allow that. So in that situation, no,
it's not just the SEC championship, it's all these others.
And would those conferences be good with doing whatever with

(15:30):
these play in weekends as opposed to a conference championship weekend.
And I think we might be getting to that point
because Notre Dame, of course, who was quote unquote snubbed.
And the reason that they're calling it a snub is
because Notre Dame has been in the field from day one.
Remember they started these rankings at the very beginning of November,

(15:51):
and they do a ranking show on ESPN and they
tell you every week what the CFP committee thinks. And
Notre Dame has been ranked ahead of Miami every week
four forever. And the problem that they did to themselves
when Alabama lost to Oklahoma, Alabama was the number one

(16:16):
ranked one lost team. They were number four in the
country when they lost to Oklahoma. They lose that game and
they get dropped all the way to number ten and
they are now the third ranked two loss team. Now
you were the first ranked one loss team, but now
you lose at home in a game that you dominated

(16:38):
as far as the box score aside from the three
turnovers and the special teams mess but you outgained them
by two hundred yards and you lost the game by
two points, and you had a missed field goal in
the game as well. Oklahoma had to thread the needle
to be able to win that ballgame. So they move

(17:01):
Alabama back to ten, and they move them behind Notre Dame.
Miami was dropped all the way to number eighteen with
their second loss. They lost to Louisville, who ended up
eating FOR, and they lost at SMU in overtime, who
ended up eating FOR. Those are not awful losses, they're

(17:22):
not great. They're not as good as Notre Dame's losses.
But Miami beat Notre Dame, so they moved them way
far back, and they never flipped it even when Miami
started playing better. So you never took head to head
into consideration until the very last one, which is why
Notre Dame is all mad. So Notre Dame being quote

(17:43):
unquote snubbed has led them to announce that they are
not going to participate in any bowl game. And they're
of course saying, you know, they don't want to take
the risk for their NFL Draft prospects. They don't want
them to be injured or anything like that. And from what
I understand, a desire not to reward the system with

(18:06):
ratings or revenue, which could cost them millions of dollars.
Because the Irish, I guess, don't need the payout, and
I guess they're not going to get the payout. I
don't understand what the situation is because if if you're
not going to participate in a bowl game because you
got left out of the CFP, then should you still

(18:31):
get your college Football Playoff payout? And Notre Dame is
one of those that gets a sizeable payout from the CFP.

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Do they not get that or do they just not
get their bowl revenue? I think there's a big difference here.
So if you if you decide that I don't know,
I will tell you that there are a lot of
rumors about Marcus Freeman potentially taking the New York Giants
head coaching job. And I know a lot of people

(20:26):
have started watching this uh calshi calshi ka l s hi,
which is like basically trading on futures as far as
the sport is concerned. And he the last I saw,
he was like a eighty percent chance of taking the
New York Giants head coaching job or seventy seven or
seventy eight percent, whatever it was. This is you don't

(20:51):
see ten win teams skipping Bowl games like it's it's insane,
and it's pretty wild that they decided they're just they're
not gonna do this, like we were told we were
a playoff team basically from the moment that they started
releasing rankings and now nothing. But it just shows you

(21:14):
that this sport is so jacked up. I mean, if
you really look and it's not jacked up per se,
it's a new hope, it's a new world. Indiana, Duke
and Texas Tech just won conference championships. Indiana has not
won an outright conference championship since what the forties, Duke,

(21:39):
It's been a long long time. Texas Tech, I think
it's been the sixties. Maybe, well, they've never won the
Big twelve. I know that, But I mean, this is
this is outrageous, Like this is some crazy, crazy stuff
that we're seeing now. And all of this is possible
due to nil the transfer. Uh, the fact that you know,

(22:03):
the only coaches that are still active to have national
championships are Kirby Smart, Dabo Sweeney, Brian Day. That's it
that I mean, that's the whole gamut. I mean, we
we've got we've got three teams in the college football

(22:24):
Playoff whose coaches are headed to other gigs. Now two
Lane and James Madison's coaches are still going to coach
them in the playoffs. Ole Missus coach is not going
to coach them in the playoff because the school said no, no, no, no,
you're going to one of our rivals. That's we can't

(22:45):
let that happen. And then of course you've got rematches.
Ole Miss already beat Tulane this year and what was it,
thirty eight to three, I think was the final in Oxford,
and now it's going to be in a playoff game.
Now it's gonna be a little bit of a different
circumstance because in this situation, Ole Miss is gonna be

(23:06):
without Lane Kiffen, but they will still have Charlie Wise
Junior calling the plays on offense. So in which we
haven't talked about this on the show, Good Gracious, if
Ole Miss wins the playoff game, and then if they
somehow beat Georgia in the Sugar Bowl, they ls he

(23:30):
was gonna have to pay Lane Kiffin bonus money, which
is just insane. Somehow he got that written into his
contract that hey, because I'm not able to coach the
team that I was with, you're gonna have to make
up the bonus difference, so I need my money. All
of this is just mind blowing, absolutely mind blowing. I

(23:59):
let's talk right about some of the coaching news that
has happened, and I'm sure at some point this week
I'm gonna talk more about Duke and James Madison and
all these others. It's some of the Bowl slates were
we're gonna do Army Navy. I'm gonna do a YouTube
show this week where we go over the playoff games
and all that kind of stuff. But you know, UCLA

(24:20):
did announce that they hired Bob Chesney. The UA B
situation was weird, really weird because the initial reports were
that they had hired a Division two head coach or
an FCS head coach to be their head coach, and
then there were conflicting reports and it looks like Alex
Mortensen has gotten the job. Very interesting. Matt Campbell takes

(24:42):
Penn State how and the story behind that where Pat
Kraft had the wrong agent information and that agent didn't
pass the interest on to Matt Campbell. That is mind
blowing that that happens today. I mean absolutely insane, So,

(25:04):
you know, just nuts. The one that I really want
to talk about is I floated this as a joke,
almost like it made perfect sense. But the Virginia Tech situation.
James Franklin has been given carte blanche in Blacksburg. He

(25:28):
had an incredible recruiting class for coming in at the
last minute. Flipped a lot of the Penn State guys
over to him like it was just it was bananas.
But now the coach that got fired earlier in the year,
Brent pry he was Franklin's DC at Penn State before
he got this job four years ago. Franklin has hired

(25:54):
him to be the defensive coordinator. So he was the
head coach in Blackbird and now Brent Prye is going
to be the DC and Blackbird. So it's basically just
a demotion. I can't imagine what the terms of the
contract are, but incredible, incredible stuff. We got a lot
more that we're gonna be talking about this week now

(26:15):
that games are for the most part done. You know,
we're gonna be doing Bowl games and all that kind
of stuff. But we're gonna be talking a lot more
about the sport in general, and I can't wait to
get into all of that. But for now we're gonna
get out of here. You guys have been fantastic. Thank
you so much. Take care of yourself, take care of
each other. God bless college football and hopefully all of
your tickets cash this week. Thanks for listening to Winning

(26:38):
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