Wise Men Say

Wise Men Say

The longest-running Sunderland AFC podcast, established in 2013. Up to three shows a week including previews, reaction shows, live shows and feature-length episodes with quality articles live on wisemensay.co.uk Twitter Facebook Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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June 19, 2025 67 mins

Think Terry Butcher.


Blood and bandages, Italia 90, Glasgow Rangers and their English invasion, Bobby Robson's Ipswich. He also played for and managed the lads - and, in 2019, he spoke to us as part of our Meet the Managers series. 


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We've delved back into the archives to bring you the second in the Meet the Manager series - today, it's Malcolm Crosby's turn.


Malcolm speaks to us about his early career, how he ended up at his home town team and all about that fantastic 1992 FA Cup run.


This podcast was first released in 2018.


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We've delved into the archives to bring you the first in the Meet the Manager series where we speak to Denis Smith.


Denis talks us through his early years, how he came to be Sunderland manager, how he got Sunderland on the up again after relegation to the third tier for the first time in the club's history, that famous Newcastle Play-Off victory, our season in the top flight and that incredible day against Man City at Maine Road...

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June 16, 2025 61 mins
Stephen, Gareth and Andy Dawson look back at the generational impact that Peter Reid made to the club.

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Stephen Goldsmith, Gareth Barker and Richard Easterbrook talk about the positions Sunderland will need to strengthen as they look forward to their return to the Premier League!

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Stephen and Gareth bring you the Monday Pod on a Tuesday. Lots of Wembley hysteria is still ongoing but here's some actual crack about the match. WMS alumni Frankie Francis returns.

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May 25, 2025 50 mins

The Wise Men Say team recorded their thoughts across a memorable weekend for Sunderland AFC, from setting off to London, heading to Trafalgar Square, pre-match feelings from the supporters we bumped into - and all of the celebrations across the capital afterwards.


Almost every current WMS member - plus some familiar faces - contributed to this in some way - probably the first time we've all been on a podcast together at the same...

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WE ARE PREMIER LEAGUE!!!

Eleanor McCabe presents from WMS' spiritual home in the capital, the Marquis Cornwallis, as Sunderland secured their return to the top flight after an eight-year absence with a barely-believable last-minute victory against Sheffield United at Wembley Stadium.

Eleanor is joined by Richard Easterbrook, Jonny Lambert and lots of others as we celebrate a momentous occasion.


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May 22, 2025 62 mins
Richard Easterbrook is joined by Eleanor McCabe, Jimmy Reay and special guest Matthew Keeling as excitement continues to build for Sunderland's Championship play-off final at Wembley Stadium. Tonight, the team talk about Regis Le Bris' selection decisions and what threat Sheffield United pose on Saturday.

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Stephen and Gareth are joined by Andy Dawson to bring you the first of two pods where the WMS gang talk about Saturday. Oh and Rick pops his head in too.

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May 15, 2025 45 mins

Stephen Goldsmith is joined by Richard Easterbrook and special guest, Sunderland AFC match announcer - and former Wise Men Say presenter - Rory Fallow.


The lads look back on the Coventry match in a little bit more detail while Rory answers your listener questions.


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Eleanor and Mick bring you their reaction on one of the greatest nights the Stadium of Light has ever seen as Sunderland score in the last minute of extra-time to seal an aggregate victory over Coventry City - and with it their passage to the Championship play-off final at Wembley Stadium!

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How are your nerves? Sunderland proved lots of people wrong in the first leg but this tie is nowhere near done yet. Stephen, Gareth and Eleanor discuss the massive game on Tuesday. 

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Stephen and Mick react to the win over Coventry.



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Stephen, Gareth and Mick preview the 1st leg of our play-off tie against Coventry.



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May 5, 2025 56 mins
We got views and perspectives from the rest of the sides in this season's play-offs. We spoke to David from Forever Bristol City, Chad from The Red Half of Sheffield, and Simon from That Cov Pod.

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Stephen Goldsmith and Richard Easterbrook were live at The Fire Station after the QPR defeat and were joined by Sunderland legend Julio Arca! The lads discuss the final-day defeat to the Rs, look back at the season just concluded and share their play-off thoughts. There's also a good chat with Julio about his playing days at the Stadium of Light.

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May 2, 2025 43 mins
Okay, so we've actually spoken to him before but it was yonks ago. With it being play-off season (again) why not speak to a prevalent character from the 1990 semi-final against them lot?

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May 1, 2025 50 mins
Richard Easterbrook is joined by Eleanor McCabe as they look ahead to Sunderland's final game of the regular season against QPR. They also look at the permutations around the final two play-off places beneath the Black Cats and reminisce about some previous end-of-season encounters.

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Stephen and Gareth are joined by We Are Sunderland's James Hunter to discuss our fourth defeat on the bounce.

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