Aw Yeah Fall Edition The Classic 3

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Speaker 3 (01:20):
Hello, welcome to episode two thirty eight. I love that
we've been doing this podcast for how many years now?

Speaker 1 (01:28):
Twenty years, fifteen, fifteen years, ten years.

Speaker 3 (01:31):
I love that the intro and all the commercials were
all echoing as hell and we have no idea what
was going on? Do you hear an echo or anymore? Oh?

Speaker 1 (01:41):
Okay, good Jesus, really guys, because honestly, I've got it.

Speaker 2 (01:45):
At the beginning was real crazy echo.

Speaker 3 (01:47):
Yeah, everything was an echo in the in the beginning.

Speaker 2 (01:49):
But yeah, it's that little screen.

Speaker 1 (01:55):
Yeah make that d oh, the vertical screen thing.

Speaker 2 (01:59):
Yeah, it takes so what else?

Speaker 1 (02:00):
That's okay? Maybe because I don't know.

Speaker 2 (02:03):
Maybe I don't know if I'm asking that. I don't
know if you could see that on YouTube though, let
me see.

Speaker 1 (02:10):
Because honestly, I don't have it at all.

Speaker 3 (02:12):
I liked it. I liked it though. It was fun.
It was like and I was thinking through the intro,
like we've been doing this for fifteen years now, we
still don't know what the hell we're doing, so it's good.

Speaker 1 (02:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:22):
Our YouTube channel has it as that as that little
screen vertical. Yeah, you want it to be small or
you want to.

Speaker 1 (02:31):
Everybody everybody watching is saying that it sounds great from
my YouTube.

Speaker 2 (02:35):
Okay, great, all right, it's working us larger casius vertical.

Speaker 3 (02:42):
Or whatever.

Speaker 1 (02:43):
Yeah, yeah, I think it depends on your thing, because yeah,
I can do vertical.

Speaker 2 (02:46):
Oh you mean if you're on your phone or your computer.

Speaker 1 (02:50):
Well more so already like if you I was for
for people who don't know what we're talking about. If yeah, uh,
the stream yard is now out bringing new on that
we can stream vertically, meaning Instagram pack, YouTube shorts and
if we want to, if we want to present that way,
if we want our butts in the air to present

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that way, we can do that. And I was trying
to explain to the guys how to knock out the
vertical window. They may have it open, so on their
end they may be uh, they may be dealing with
an echo. Are you still dealing with the echo.

Speaker 2 (03:25):
Guys, No, not anymore, but the YouTube channel shows it.

Speaker 3 (03:30):
I think I said it that way when when when
I told you we've been doing this for fifteen years,
I don't know what I'm doing, So I think I
think I said it that way. So this is a
very special episode that we will present vertically to all
of you.

Speaker 2 (03:43):
The vertical episode.

Speaker 3 (03:44):
The vertical episode. Yeah, oh yeah, so.

Speaker 2 (03:46):
There's that's that's the most important important, I.

Speaker 1 (03:51):
Like absolutely, because the audio is the driving force. The
fact that you could see us that's a bonus.

Speaker 2 (03:57):
Yeah, that's bonus. People want to see us. Handsome stuff
was me.

Speaker 1 (04:01):
Already here he's got he's got one button slightly uh
off to the side on his cap and look askew.

Speaker 2 (04:11):
Yeah, that's my uh it's my Harald chicken on there.
It's a chicken from Flash Cordon.

Speaker 1 (04:17):
Were you guys button guys in the eighties, like with
buttons on your cats and your jackets and stuff like.

Speaker 2 (04:22):
Oh, I always had that.

Speaker 3 (04:24):
You don't you wouldn't touch the button on on my
cat because that's oh, oh did you say cat or cap?
Oh I'm gonna say if you touch the button on
my cat that he's like he does not like that.
It could be it was on the other end of
the head, so there was a little button. It looked like.

Speaker 1 (04:45):
If Berrol like our dear friend Tony Flice is wonderful
comic book. Yeah, he's doing with Trish Stevens.

Speaker 2 (04:53):
It's like an autobiography I heard.

Speaker 1 (04:55):
Yeah, well, bet, I bet I think they take notes
when their cat's poop and stuff. It's like, I did
you feel when your I'm writing a story.

Speaker 3 (05:03):
I like that.

Speaker 2 (05:05):
You guys, I haven't seen you guys.

Speaker 1 (05:07):
Hey, everybody, if you don't know if if you don't
pay attention to your almanac or calendar. First of all,
it must be the almanac, it must be fall season
because it's time for our quarterly oh yeah podcast. But
also Ken Doug Ken Dog Good American was just watching
the Mash finale for this Veterans Day. Really Yeah, that's

(05:29):
a good one, Artie. I mean it might be out
of context because you're you don't want to appreciate some
of the back story.

Speaker 2 (05:34):
Should I just start with the last one with a
lot of stuff.

Speaker 1 (05:38):
No, you don't do that. I'm never going you don't
understand the friendships and everything, and that they're all gentle
in the last episode. You know, Pierce, let me tell
you something, Pierce, My bunnyans are killing me.

Speaker 2 (05:51):
My Harry Morgan, I'm never gonna watch that show.

Speaker 1 (05:53):
Oh that sounds Ken, Ken Doug's a veterans. Thank you
for your service, Ken Duck, Sure, I had no idea. Ken,
Do tell us what what branch you were on? Was
fruit sprouting from that branch?

Speaker 2 (06:05):
Is he sergeant Kem Doug.

Speaker 1 (06:07):
Good big Corporal Kendug, Captain Kendug?

Speaker 2 (06:10):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 1 (06:12):
I want to go with the alliteration. That's like mark
if I was writing Kendall as a military man, corporal
from a rank that was alliterative. That means the shame
constinent at the beginning.

Speaker 2 (06:24):
The cuissong like the mussam.

Speaker 1 (06:27):
If he was a shy kick, he'd be corporal Ken Dog.
If he was the leader, he'd be Colonel kend.

Speaker 3 (06:35):
Oh he was.

Speaker 1 (06:35):
He was a radio man in the navy. That's radio man.

Speaker 2 (06:39):
Radio man.

Speaker 1 (06:40):
Can ever ever find any pirate radio stations out on
the seventhieth? You know that that was a big deal
in Europe.

Speaker 2 (06:48):
They're all rated R right.

Speaker 1 (06:51):
Listen, the baby says, I'm not giving as scenario of
top forty a day. So we are twelve here, I'll
do I should. I'm almost Michael Kane, so we would
go hell about twelve miles from the show.

Speaker 2 (07:01):
You're gonna go see that new Michael Kaine movie about well,
Hugh Jackman place Neil Diamond. I don't know if Michael
Kain's in it. He might. Yeah, you're gonna go see.

Speaker 1 (07:14):
That as much I shall say as himself.

Speaker 2 (07:18):
I saw a trailer for that this weekend.

Speaker 1 (07:20):
How didn't look? I love the rock the rash of
rock bio movies we've.

Speaker 2 (07:26):
Been getting coming a genre like why It's.

Speaker 1 (07:28):
Too late, It's definitely a genre.

Speaker 2 (07:30):
Why do you want to see a Neil Diamond movie? Like?
It makes it.

Speaker 1 (07:33):
Huge for the well, I can give you the math already.
I can give you the math.

Speaker 2 (07:37):
It makes a.

Speaker 3 (07:39):
Huge elvis at the end. But he was.

Speaker 1 (07:41):
Yeah, and his age and his age grew. You know,
they still go to the movies. They still when are.

Speaker 2 (07:45):
They gonna when are they gonna run out of guys?
Because they just never Springsteen, never like they're picking him like, oh,
he's popular enough and see how many number one hits?
All right, let's do this guy.

Speaker 1 (07:56):
But they're all they're all old man, so it is
time to do the I guess so.

Speaker 2 (08:01):
Bruce of Springsteen, Neil Diamond and the Neil Diamond movie trailer.
I'm not sure if it's really about him, based sort
of him, or is it a couple impersonating him. I'm
not sure.

Speaker 1 (08:15):
Radio man, Kem Dog, I want your rank, Kem. Doug
says that he plays in Neil Diamond impersonator. Oh yeah,
and and Stanley says, they never make good biopicks. You
know what's interesting? I like h and I can't remember
the name of the one about Freddy Mercury.

Speaker 2 (08:31):
Yeah, rhaps there you go.

Speaker 1 (08:34):
Thank you absolutely, But but I heard that the band
hates it because it's like, uh, I don't know how
to break with you. But Freddy was one of the
happiest guys we knew. So all the drama and stuff
that you put in there, no, that's not.

Speaker 2 (08:48):
Freddy, right, And that's what they did with it. Started
with the Ali movie. Thehaman Ali movie was a disappointment.

Speaker 3 (08:56):
Well, but that the one most Chris Rock that movie, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (09:01):
That's the that's the sequel Chris Rock.

Speaker 1 (09:04):
You all saw it.

Speaker 2 (09:05):
I'm correctly, Rock goes Rock.

Speaker 1 (09:13):
But that was a stressful time in Ali's life. So
I cut that movie slack because you know, they kept
him from fighting true to us three years of his prime.
You're enough, man, you don't.

Speaker 2 (09:25):
Think it's Yeah, I don't think the movie is what
we wanted, but it's what they gave us. And I'm like,
all right, I I wanted.

Speaker 3 (09:32):
To be I'm never gonna want.

Speaker 1 (09:33):
What did you want it to be?

Speaker 2 (09:35):
I wanted to be a glorified documentary autobiography of him.

Speaker 1 (09:38):
Well, you know they shot and stuff back in seventy nine.
Ali made that himself and it's called the Greatest Oh yeah,
and then they show it on like to be or
yeah I watched that, yeah, And so there's your movie
like that and it's him playing.

Speaker 2 (09:54):
Him and it's kind of like they saw that Elvis
one too with Colonel.

Speaker 1 (09:58):
Parker and oh yeah, yeah yeah.

Speaker 2 (10:01):
I couldn't help, but I couldn't have to compare it
with Kurt Russell one. And I just remember that growing up,
and that was a good one, and because it ended
with him on stage looking with the sweat, But this
new one, it just I don't I remember it enough,
but I know, not enjoying it as much as it
should have. It should have been better.

Speaker 3 (10:21):
I thought, you know, the guy in that movie, they
picked him because he looked so much like Elvis in
his younger days. That, yeah, all the other movie, Yeah,
all the other movies that he's in. Now, I'm like,
that's all. So he was in Dune with like, you know,
no hair and stuff like that, and I'm like, oh, look,
it's a bald Elvis.

Speaker 1 (10:40):
How you know. Yeah, I'm fighting satworms.

Speaker 3 (10:43):
Man.

Speaker 2 (10:44):
I just saw him in a movie with He was
in the front seat of a car. But I don't
know what the movie. I was just watching it. But
I think he was with the young hand solo in
a movie. I can't remember what it was.

Speaker 3 (10:55):
Yeah, I forget Roland elm Rich.

Speaker 2 (10:58):
Elrich was that guy.

Speaker 1 (10:59):
I believe.

Speaker 3 (11:04):
Rich.

Speaker 1 (11:04):
You never know how to say. It's less means. It's like,
you want a memorable name. But that's the key. It's
got to be memorable. It can't be like, yeah, what
the hell was his name?

Speaker 3 (11:16):
Was?

Speaker 2 (11:16):
The name scratched?

Speaker 1 (11:17):
He played solo and he made a movie with Warren Baby.

Speaker 2 (11:23):
If they just bring him back his solo, he could
he could do something.

Speaker 1 (11:26):
Oh I think so. Yeah, But but you know, and
again I think we're in the minority. As far as
people who like Solo, I like Solo. I like Solo enough,
I should say.

Speaker 2 (11:37):
Well, I liked it more when you get more stuff
to compare two that comes out after absolutely better.

Speaker 1 (11:43):
It's kind of like it's kind of like George W. Bush. Yeah,
you know he made it. He really made a billboard
that said that. And I forget what state it was
other than confusion.

Speaker 2 (11:54):
Give somebody else said that recently, I forgot.

Speaker 3 (11:57):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (11:59):
By the way, Petty Officer Kem Dog third Class said
he didn't hate Solo.

Speaker 2 (12:03):
Yeah, it was even when it came out, I liked it. Yeah,
even when I came out, I liked it. I thought
it was a little boring at parts, but I enjoyed it.

Speaker 1 (12:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (12:12):
It was like an It didn't feel Star warsy, but
it fell like an action movie.

Speaker 1 (12:15):
And that's when I fell in love with the Game
of Throws Thrones. Girl that's in that.

Speaker 2 (12:18):
Oh yeah, Sarah or something Targarian. I like Sarah something.

Speaker 1 (12:24):
By the way, people didn't notice on my Barbara Barbara
my lobby cart for this episode. Uh, I took an
old image of just the three of us. I'm like,
it's just the three of us that scoot, it's on vacation.
That's all right, feel better, scoot. But I took an
old image and it's it's already with the big thought

(12:44):
bubble of Wendy Williams and her massive assets, if you will.
Oh and so I I yellowed out most of it,
but you can just make God just as much of it.

Speaker 2 (12:56):
I'm going to say a prayer for Wendy today. I
don't know how she's doing.

Speaker 3 (12:59):
She is she still being held captive?

Speaker 1 (13:03):
I don't that's a really good question. I saw the
Nightline like an abasement special.

Speaker 3 (13:09):
Tell me tell yeah. I don't know the whole story,
but they they kind of committed her to now.

Speaker 2 (13:15):
Is there Wendy update? Yeah, for everyone just joining us,
Wendy Williams update.

Speaker 3 (13:19):
They committed her. I don't know who, family or somebody
else committed her. And she was waving to people from
windows because that's the only place you could see.

Speaker 1 (13:27):
Yeah, And she did a nightline interview in whatever you
know facility she's in again, speaking of states and confusion,
and she seemed very lucid, sure, very normal, very straight.
So I don't know what the hell's going on, but
you know, she was in that massive depression and that's
when ended her show. Yeah, and all that stuffy already.

(13:47):
I'm actually shocked that.

Speaker 2 (13:49):
I didn't know. I haven't heard from her for a while.
I was watching the show when she had different people
hosting her show. Remember Rapaport guy Michael, Yeah, he was
it for a while. Yeah, and he was interesting, but
he ran out of steam and material, so they had
to get another guy.

Speaker 3 (14:10):
Good.

Speaker 2 (14:10):
Yeah, he was yelling everybody on Twitter.

Speaker 1 (14:12):
Yes he still does that.

Speaker 2 (14:14):
Thought that was funny.

Speaker 3 (14:15):
I think he shows up on Howard Stern every once
a while.

Speaker 1 (14:19):
Yeah, and he's not a podcast, he doesn't. He was
just on Bill Mars podcast.

Speaker 2 (14:23):
I like, because he's mad all time. That's pretty funny.
But he was on Wendy and I forgot who else
they played. They they replaced there were formerly known as
Fat Joe because now he's not as fat, but they
still call him Fat Joe. He was on there for
a little bit.

Speaker 1 (14:37):
Serry Shepherd took her. I saw a clip of yeah,
that's right, Shepherd interviewing Michelle Obama, and then they were
and they were, they were. They were reminiscing about the
South Side of Chicago and all the great.

Speaker 2 (14:49):
Places because Shepherd met me one time. I know she
met me.

Speaker 1 (14:54):
Did you meet her as well or just yeah together?

Speaker 2 (14:56):
Yeah? Yeah, we made She might have kissed me, I'm
not sure, but she she was there. Yeah, we took
a photo.

Speaker 1 (15:03):
Nice, can I can I take a quick boxing tangent?
Because yeah, let's go Jeffrey Darcy. Well you may not
know this guy already, but I had a great story
about him there on this.

Speaker 3 (15:15):
Yeah, yeah, this is gonna take because I'll come back two.

Speaker 1 (15:19):
Minutes if you if you got a pe going. One
of my one of my Dan's good friends, Willie Pastrano,
used to train with Ali. I got my first boxing
lessons from Willie. He also had the light heavyweight title
in the mid sixties. Yes, he was managed by Angela Dundee,
who also managed Lee. The greatest story is when he
lost the light heavyweight title the Jose in New York.

(15:42):
And I got this from Angela Dundee himself, and he's
like Willie was just getting hell beat out of him
and stuff. And you know it was like the seventh
round or whatever round it was before the final round
when he got knocked out and the referee goes to
the corner and he goes all right, what's your name?
He goes, Willis Pastrano. He goes, where are you? He said,

(16:03):
Madison Square Guard in New York. He goes, what's happening
right now? He goes, Jose Taurus is kicking the ship
out of him. That's funny. The ref left. He goes,
I'm giving you one more round you but yeah, he's losing.
You know exactly, he knew exactly. He was not on
the weird street. If you will, I won't use the
pejorative because that's not nice. Oh the yeah, exactly, quest street.

(16:28):
He's a question street. Where he is that question street?
Where are you?

Speaker 2 (16:32):
Question?

Speaker 3 (16:33):
What? I saw?

Speaker 2 (16:35):
I saw a match where the two guys were at
it and the guy got knocked out, and then the
winner was sold the Orient and Hey ask him what
do you think of the fights? And he said I
like eggs? And they're like, all right, beck to you, Jim.

Speaker 1 (16:50):
I've seen that where they did? I saw it happened
to a guy who got knocked down. And then Larry
Merchant was giving the post fight interview, Hi did you
feel and you got knocked down? I wasn't knocked down?

Speaker 2 (17:04):
Yeah, thank you?

Speaker 1 (17:05):
Back to you, Jim. All right, clearly, that's no idea
where he is.

Speaker 2 (17:09):
They just showed a Larry Merchant clip. I was watching
them one of these free shows like tvo or TV
or each Pluto, one of these. They had a Larry
Merchant whole segment, like three hours of HBO boxing that
was all Larry Merchant stuff. It was really funny, and
it was just all clips because I think it was
his last day he retired, but they were showing the

(17:30):
whole clips at the end. Then, No, he was still sharp.

Speaker 1 (17:34):
He's still he was just going down like any old man.
But he's yeah, still good.

Speaker 2 (17:38):
But that's they showed the clip when he goes. If
I was fifty years younger, I can't care ass to Mayweather,
call Larry bring it and then he's like, get out
of here.

Speaker 1 (17:48):
That was really cool, hey man. He was part of
the boxing scene in the sixties. He was one of
the original investors in Joe Fraser, where like a whole
group of businessmen put like a thousand or half any
much money into the kitty if you will, to support
his the beginnings of his pro career to give him
a livable info. Ali did the same thing in h

(18:10):
in Louisville, but and a'll say he was a he
was a big sports writer before he went to TV
in the seventies.

Speaker 2 (18:17):
Yeah, no, I like that. There's another clip. There's a
YouTube clip of all the cheating in boxing, and my
favorite one still is when the guy's in the corner
to give him give me the water. He goes, no,
not this one, the one I mixed, the one one
I make, the one with.

Speaker 1 (18:31):
The anamal Lewis trained Francis he gave. He gave his
fighter cocaine. Yeah, it worked and ended up not it
was Aaron Pryor against Alexis Arguel.

Speaker 2 (18:45):
Yeah up, well come up. Then the other one.

Speaker 3 (18:48):
Somebody would hand me one of those water bottles right
now I need.

Speaker 2 (18:51):
Yeah, you could get you one of those.

Speaker 1 (18:53):
But if you're in a comic shop.

Speaker 2 (18:57):
I am. It depends what you mean by shop, but
I do sell things here, so yeah, you could shop.
I'm an online shop.

Speaker 3 (19:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (19:04):
But yeah, this is my art studio. This is where
I drive every day. Star Wars guys here, figures and
toys in there and collections and spinner Wreck. Yeah, I'm
I'm there.

Speaker 1 (19:14):
Petty Officer kem dog watchs to know if anyone is watching.
Welcome to Dairy. I am not because I'm just not
a horror a horror person.

Speaker 2 (19:21):
I don't know what that is. Welcome to Derry, Yeah,
that's an it.

Speaker 1 (19:27):
It's I don't know if it's a preel or more
more more Happiness with the Clown.

Speaker 2 (19:32):
Is it a show like a streamer?

Speaker 1 (19:35):
I think it was in Baltimore when I was doing
the panel. Uh, and I forget who someone was dressed
like the clown and just literally sitting there and it
scared the ship out of me. I'm just like safely
and I absolutely had all like listen, I can't look
at you.

Speaker 2 (19:51):
Yeah, is this the movie? Because I know that Stephen's king. Yes,
Stephen he had the first which was the kids, and
then they came out later with the adults. Right, he
fought the adults.

Speaker 3 (20:06):
That's the favorite story. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (20:08):
I never saw that either. So is this Dearie Things prequel?

Speaker 1 (20:12):
So I guess he. I guess he was terrorizing other
other people prior to that.

Speaker 2 (20:16):
Because they did two movies, right, because I know my
daughter likes it. Y Yeah, but I don't really care.

Speaker 1 (20:22):
When we were kids, they made a great in any
series of it with Richard Thomas from John Boy from
the Waltons and Venus fly Trap from John Redder. Uh no,
Tim Reid, Oh yeah, I think he might have.

Speaker 2 (20:37):
I don't remember of Venus flight.

Speaker 1 (20:39):
What happens When everyone questioned me, I know you're you're
always right, I gave up.

Speaker 2 (20:44):
I gave a encyclopedia of sexual not I mean of naked,
I mean of knowledge movie movie nudity.

Speaker 1 (20:51):
Jeffrey Darcy with all the boxing now and she also
met Joe Frasier.

Speaker 2 (20:54):
Are you a boxer, Jeffrey Darcy?

Speaker 1 (20:57):
Well, I guess he was saying his dad was. But
he's with Pastrano and he got lessons from him, so
I imagine it's some on some level. He has practiced
the manly art and that I'm not talking about yours truly.

Speaker 3 (21:08):
There man, everybody.

Speaker 1 (21:12):
Like famous cartoonist, are you that could be one of
your You're like at the beginning of when Drago fights
Apollo Creed and the ring announced his given all the destruction,
that that's my favorite, the Count of Bonnie Fisto. Yeah,
I haven't worked on a corner with prostitutes as well.

Speaker 2 (21:31):
I have a friend Joey Roth who's a local wrestler,
and he's uh, he does all the local Illinois Northwest
Illinois wrestling scene and he shows up Tweed too now
and then he's friends with that guy good John g Beat.
That guy always interviews us. So he uh, we became friends,
just acquaintances, and now we know each other a little bit.

(21:53):
And he's and he asked me if I want to
be his manager, where I could be the cartoonist manager
to walk to the ring and draw portraits and throw
him at each other and rip them up and just
be a bad guy because he's a bad guy. Yes,
And I said, I said, but I said, yeah, but
what do I have to do? And he goes, just
do that, But all you gotta do is take a hit,
take a what did it? Calling it a bump?

Speaker 3 (22:14):
A bump?

Speaker 2 (22:14):
You gotta take a bump? Like what kind of bump?
He goes, well, someone's got my hit you with a chair,
knock you down. And said, I can't even afford the trip.
If I trip, I'm gonna it's like my body. My
body can't take a bump. And he went that's too
bad anyway, So he.

Speaker 1 (22:30):
Used to do it. Comic book icon who used to
be a manager. Heel, you're gonna hearing this is me
blood Francis his mind if he didn't already know what
Franco for ten points.

Speaker 3 (22:42):
Uh, I'm gonna go with uh pet.

Speaker 1 (22:45):
Jack no no, no comic artists, and I will give
you his crime era. I'm gonna go with but he's
still active nineteen eighties.

Speaker 3 (22:52):
Okay, I'm gonna go with uh Vanam White.

Speaker 2 (22:56):
I'm gonna go with the guy who pushed Bob Kane
in the elevator. Forgot his name though? Is that him?

Speaker 1 (23:01):
No? Dennis Dennis Cowen was a wrestling heel manager.

Speaker 2 (23:07):
Yes, Oh cool.

Speaker 1 (23:09):
I've seen the video and it used to be on
I don't know if it still is on YouTube, but
he used to be on YouTube, and I've I've certainly
talked to you about it over the years that he's
very he loves that he did that, you know.

Speaker 2 (23:21):
Oh cool.

Speaker 3 (23:22):
My dad used to cook for Captain Lou Albano all
the time. He would come in to our restaurant, Oh cool,
and come in the back and asked for my dad
because he wanted his soup. He wanted his Pasta Joel soup,
and my dad's My dad still has an autograph picture
of Captain Lou Albano from the super Mario hour on Fox. Yeah,

(23:42):
oh wow.

Speaker 1 (23:42):
Somebody somebody asked him in an interview, so how did
you get were you in the were you in the military,
How did you get your rank of captain? And he said,
I'm a self ordained captain, which I love.

Speaker 3 (23:52):
You that.

Speaker 1 (23:55):
So yeah, oh mpgn I twenty one wants to know
if Jim Storenko was the guy that pushed Bob.

Speaker 2 (24:01):
Yeah, Sterrienko. I couldn't think of his name.

Speaker 1 (24:03):
It makes sense. Little little bulldog terrier, you know. I
remember when if you don't see him in person, you think,
but he's probably very little guy and God blests me.
And he's built like a jockey. He's built.

Speaker 2 (24:16):
He's two feet taller with his hair.

Speaker 3 (24:19):
Were you gonna tell the Mike Richards story. I don't know,
we could you.

Speaker 1 (24:25):
Francis, I don't want to monopolize the conversation.

Speaker 2 (24:27):
I don't know. I don't know that, but I know
the Storenko story where I wanted to meet him and
I wanted to buy an autograph, and uh, I was
looking at his autographs and he looked at me. I
told him I want one. I wanted an autograph. He goes, well,
a guy like you let me see. He gave me
to one with him and handcuffs. He goes guy like,

(24:47):
he wants to see me in handcuffs here, I'll say
this one for you, and he gave it to me
and he winked at me. I'm like, thank you, sir.
He goes to see you later. I think Sirenko does
hit on me, but he was teasing me.

Speaker 1 (25:02):
That was funny he he was doing. They were going
to represent oh, by the way. Mark Kratt is joining
a Chicago playwright who wrote has written plays about Bob,
Bob Kane and Bill Finger and Jack Kirby and Dicka
Eru and Stan and Uh the the E C and

(25:24):
H Doctor Wortham instroduction of the Innocent Period three grand
three grande plays based on real comic book stuff, and
also in the In the EC one he also had
a subplot about Matt Baker, the great Artist that got
screwed and everything anyway, Uh, Storenko and Mike Richardson of
Dark Horse Comics. Storenko did that wonderful Chandler or red

(25:46):
Tied I've seen it called other things. It's his noir
detective story from the seventies originally, and he's printed a
couple different places. Well, he's going to represent it in
dark Horse with new art, and he was, you know
it's Storenco. You gotta mark his if he runs a
fifty yard dash with by the calendar at the time
and don't don't, don't expect to stop watch. He's slow,

(26:08):
he's he's.

Speaker 2 (26:09):
Brilliant, he's like years old.

Speaker 1 (26:12):
Yes, he's massively great, but he is slow as an
artist's funny.

Speaker 3 (26:16):
Yeah his art.

Speaker 2 (26:19):
Yeah, I don't racing. He has to be an escape
anyone anyway.

Speaker 1 (26:26):
So and he is wiry, Yes, you're right, let's.

Speaker 2 (26:28):
Pretty slip the cuffs.

Speaker 1 (26:30):
So anyway, he's getting behind on his deadlines and Jim,
Jim kind of like invents his own battles in his
own head sometimes and again, I love I love mister Storenko.
I am a massive fan anyway.

Speaker 2 (26:43):
Maybe so he was.

Speaker 1 (26:44):
Building it up even though he was late with his deadlines.
He was building it up that it was obviously Mike's fault. So, uh,
this guy comes over from rather Uh, this guy used
to work with Storenco comes over to Micro dark Horse.
Both my Sarah. He's like, yeah, Jim wants you to
come over, and he goes well, I'm kind of busy
with all this other stuff. Have Jim come see me

(27:05):
if he really wants Jim really wants you to come
see him. Okay, fine. So Mike goes to it there
thinking that all right, was you know what's going on?
You know I'm in business with him, and he goes,
come here, I want to tell you something. Storenko says that,
and Mike is, you know Adam's family Lurch.

Speaker 3 (27:21):
Tom.

Speaker 1 (27:21):
He's been mistaken for Lurch at comic cons It is true.

Speaker 2 (27:24):
The guys totally me. That's how totally is. Yes, these
light bulbs at convention.

Speaker 1 (27:29):
Basketball, Yes, the unions have the issues with that. He
like Richards, Mike, Yes, I got it, don't worry about
And Jim, as we've said, is demeaned if he's very tiny.
He's like, lean over, Mike. You know, I want you
to be able to hear me when I'm talking. So
he leans over. Jim tries to sucker punch him, really,

(27:50):
but he loses his balance years ago, loses his balance, falls,
gets up and much like Artie's hat, his is askew.
So Jim helps him up, literally brushes off his beautiful
double breasted suit, helps him with his wig and he goes,

(28:10):
all right, you want to quit screwing around and tell
me what's wrong with you and what your problems with me?

Speaker 2 (28:14):
He picked up his hair. Here's your hair, by the way.

Speaker 1 (28:17):
Yeah, that's the end of the story.

Speaker 2 (28:18):
That's it. That's a I never heard that.

Speaker 3 (28:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (28:22):
Yeah, actually that's a big, great story about him. Absolutely.

Speaker 2 (28:26):
When did that happen?

Speaker 3 (28:27):
I think it was Tuesday next week.

Speaker 2 (28:29):
Happened in Baltimore, either nineties or early two thousands, yeah,
because they're both.

Speaker 1 (28:34):
I think early two thousands.

Speaker 2 (28:36):
Oh, Sta wrinkles now like ninety eight or something. He's
an old guy now, I've seen him.

Speaker 1 (28:42):
Definitely in his eighties. He might be in his nineties.
I don't know, because he was a he was well,
he's the generation after Stamp.

Speaker 2 (28:49):
Yeah. I like that. Richardson, just say you got him,
you're done.

Speaker 1 (28:55):
That's a great guy.

Speaker 2 (28:56):
He went to hit him in the face, and he
pushed him in his belt buckle and stick.

Speaker 1 (28:59):
Oh, as Stanley said, comic book people are hilarious.

Speaker 2 (29:04):
Yeah. Podcast.

Speaker 1 (29:08):
I was telling already off the air that sometimes we
even though we don't see each other for months, we
do like he does rub off on me in odd
ways of your expression. There's an Instagram there's an Instagram video.
I don't know if you guys have seen it where
it's I'm assuming it's from Hispanic television. But they're all

(29:29):
they're kind of dressed like the Beatles, and they're singing
Sergeant Pepper's Lonely Heart Arts Club Band. And I don't
even want to approximate it because I'm sure I would
offend somebody with my attempt to do screaming Spanish gibberish
as they're singing, you know, you know, and they're they're going,
that's as much you're gonna get. So but it reminded
me of ARTI's story of whatever Mexican restaurant he was

(29:49):
in where there was a live bando and they were.

Speaker 2 (29:52):
Singing yellow somebody Live, not live lib, we all live
Ben Yellow, some Maddy Yellow, some Maddy. They saw me
come in and they're like, we have songs in English too,
and they put that on.

Speaker 3 (30:09):
I gotta tell you, every time I hear the Beatles
version of that, I always think of you.

Speaker 2 (30:13):
Yeah, yeah, I might paint my house yellow.

Speaker 1 (30:16):
Have you heard have you heard our bounce story about now?
Tell us about the story. Apparently he was in a
karaoke bar. Some Hispanic band was singing Yellow Submarine, Yellow sub.

Speaker 3 (30:30):
Ringo liked it.

Speaker 1 (30:34):
With us, he'd be able to do the pall part.
And I can just stick to let.

Speaker 2 (30:37):
I like the famous cartoonist Chap, but they call me
a chap. Sure Chip.

Speaker 1 (30:44):
Do you guys remember from the eighties the British comedy
The Young Ones from MTV I'm gonna go with no Okay?
It was a big It was a big m TV
show and they had great contemporary bands on it, like
Motorhead was singing the Asus Spades and Dexy's Midnight Runners
were on uh and two Songs and Jackie Wilson. But

(31:10):
it's a it was a it was a weird, like
totally bizarre comedy about four college kids living together. Well
the creator, the creator no no relation to Elton, John
Ben Elton. I've been listening to his autobiography and because
England is so small, all those people like the ab
fab French and Saunders and and you know Emma Thompson

(31:34):
before she was a big oscar winner. She's a big
sketch comedy woman with uh, Hugh Laurie and Stephen Fry,
Harry Potter movies. Yes, yes, well like literally eighties.

Speaker 2 (31:48):
She choose to go a kid in Harry Potter.

Speaker 1 (31:51):
Say if not, she should be No, that's Emma.

Speaker 3 (31:56):
Yeah yeah, boy boy.

Speaker 1 (31:59):
She's she certainly grown up to be incredibly ugly, hasn't she.

Speaker 3 (32:03):
I'm Thompson. It's much much older.

Speaker 2 (32:05):
The girlfriends Harry but no Thompson.

Speaker 3 (32:12):
Two different actresses.

Speaker 2 (32:17):
And Emma watch I can't imagine.

Speaker 1 (32:19):
I know, girl puts your hands together, everybody.

Speaker 2 (32:25):
I can't imagine Emma Emma Thompson.

Speaker 1 (32:28):
I don't know which. Although different comedian who is involved
in Late Night? How's this? You know? Coberran is done
in May for CBS.

Speaker 2 (32:38):
That's right, you got and and see.

Speaker 1 (32:40):
Man, I'm glad I have a T shirt for my
time in CBS. So that's the logo from when CBS
was like great, Sadly we're going through a rough patch
and I don't know how long it's gonna my blast the
rest of our lifetime.

Speaker 2 (32:52):
Anyways, I don't watch TV anymore.

Speaker 1 (32:54):
Well, there you go. But of all people who want
to replace Cold there remember Byron Allen from Real People.

Speaker 2 (33:03):
Yeah, that guy's got a lot of money.

Speaker 1 (33:07):
He's got huge money. He bought the weather Champ, like
the weather Chair and all these different like media companies
want to buy and it's like, who about it? Oh,
Byron remember people Byron Allen.

Speaker 2 (33:20):
He is the most deceiving name for a show because
it's always comics live or something and I always comic books.

Speaker 4 (33:27):
Yes, all right, yeah yeah, and then she does even
though they have like a list comedians sitting around supposedly
like swapping these great stories.

Speaker 1 (33:37):
Yeah, it sucks they're rehearsed.

Speaker 3 (33:39):
You could tell its rehears it's been on, yeah, because
he sets them all up one at a time. But yeah,
but uh, apparently it does like really well over late
night hours and in certain demographics that the guys rich.

Speaker 1 (33:52):
Yes, well the reason why and this is my broadcast
information that I being in the business. The deal is
was with syndication. You know, you pay a fee for
the show, and in addition to that, the person providing
the show would provide like national spots like your Procter
and Gambles or whatever, and then but half the inventory

(34:13):
would go to them, and then the other half would
go to the local channel. So they could you know,
dom Gym's arm service come where stuff.

Speaker 2 (34:22):
Balds are.

Speaker 1 (34:25):
So anyway, Byron offers all of the TV shows that
he offers for free, but he gets half of the
commercial inventory. And that's why literally all over the country
at one am and two am, it's either comics what's
it called unleashed or allowed comics?

Speaker 2 (34:42):
Something comics?

Speaker 1 (34:45):
Yeah, comics unleashed? Or have you watched his lame game
show called what's it called? Again?

Speaker 5 (34:51):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (34:52):
Let me let me? Yeah, your mom and welcome to
your mama. Don't live there? What's funny? You should ask?
It's I mean, it's they call him funny, and it's
Hollywood Squares without kick tack toe, and it's six comedians
instead of nine people celebrities. But literally, it's okay Tony Danza,

(35:13):
Yeah what you got?

Speaker 2 (35:15):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (35:16):
Survey says that most people would rather get shoot in
the balls rather than shooting that I think. I think
bulls is right. And then instead of do you agree disagree?
Because that's Hollywood Squares, it's uh, is he right? Or
is he wrong?

Speaker 2 (35:31):
Oh? I did see it and the there's a host
on there who's from Chicago News. I forgot.

Speaker 1 (35:37):
He's really handsome.

Speaker 2 (35:38):
Yeah, I'd love his voice and he's handsome. I would
hide well him yeah, and.

Speaker 1 (35:43):
He's perfect for a game show because nobody's oh.

Speaker 2 (35:46):
Yeah, yeah, he'd be good for like a New Year's
Eve special.

Speaker 1 (35:50):
Well, can again forgive the tangent, but I have a
story about Jack Kelly from the nineties.

Speaker 2 (35:55):
You know what, before we get off by, I want
to fight him fight club style. If you got to
pick one celebrity, I would be the guy. I probably
would lose, but I would like to challenge.

Speaker 3 (36:06):
You. Think you could take him, but yeah.

Speaker 2 (36:08):
Because you have to shave your head and then take
off your shirt and then I would put some tight Rudy.

Speaker 1 (36:13):
Rudy does tell us that Emma Thompson was indeed in
Harry Potter and yeah, Professor Trelawney.

Speaker 3 (36:20):
She had the big glasses. That's right.

Speaker 2 (36:21):
You never saw Harry watch it.

Speaker 1 (36:25):
I don't know what this means. Public Access Channel seven,
blessings from the Flying Spaghetti Monster. You must be a
host of the Flying Spahetti Monster.

Speaker 2 (36:31):
Well, thank you, thank you, public ass.

Speaker 1 (36:34):
Yes, I believe city council meetings follows his fantastic show
other one than the cafeteria menu for Grade seven at
Roosevelt Elementary. And that's that's not dude. God, bless you
for having a public access show. That's fantastic. I love
John Kelly.

Speaker 2 (36:51):
Yeah, John Kelly, let's go.

Speaker 1 (36:53):
It's it's the fourth of July and I'm watching the
local NBC affiliate where John Kelly is.

Speaker 3 (37:00):
This guy from That's Incredible.

Speaker 1 (37:03):
That's by right now. No, no, no, that was there.
I don't believe there was a black person on. That's incredible.

Speaker 3 (37:08):
Oh no, I'm David incredible.

Speaker 1 (37:11):
Okay, yeah, no, John Kelly is awesome. He is the
host of Funny. You should ask he is a black gentleman,
not that it matters.

Speaker 2 (37:18):
It looks like he would be Holly Berry's brother.

Speaker 1 (37:21):
Beautiful man, and it was a Division two college college
football player before. He's a mortal. He's he is. I
mean in the night he looks exactly like he did
literally thirty years.

Speaker 2 (37:33):
And he's eighty years old. Non, he still looks good.

Speaker 1 (37:35):
He's definitely, he's definitely. Yeah, he's definitely in his fifties. Absolutely.
It's like because he wasn't that much younger than me
when we were both in broadcasting in Chicago. Really then,
Oh yeah, well I knew of him. We didn't know
each other. Okay, this is not a great story about him.

Speaker 2 (37:52):
He would do a good voice. Hello Yoka chips, oh good.

Speaker 1 (37:55):
Oh no, he he presented himself very slick. That's why
he's still working in TV. God bless him anyway. So
it's fourth of July and he's showing highlights from an
Evander Holyfield Merciless Ray Mercer fight and oh yeah, and
I'm like, wait a minute, why are we seeing this?
This fight happened on May thirtieth, or like yeah, May

(38:16):
thirty like it was in May on a pay per
view weekend, but they were rerunning it on USA Network
on the fourth of July. He thought it was like, hey,
guess what happened to night? I Vander Holyfield was fighting,
so I knew I was friends with his rival, who
was trying to get the top network shot, you know,
be the top guy on Channel five as a sports guy.

(38:37):
And I'm like, hey, what was with your your competitor?
He had a Vander Holyfield fighting live last night and
it was actually like a two month ooth fight, and
he goes, I want you to sit down and tell
me every detail, because I got a channel at the
next at the next meeting, at the next news minutes.
All right, there, that's it. Wasn't that good start?

Speaker 3 (38:55):
I like it.

Speaker 2 (38:56):
Story, We're going to keep it. We're going to hands
to effects. Uh.

Speaker 1 (39:01):
Rudy wants to know any thoughts on the retirement of
Doctor Demento. Yeah, I God blessed the guy. He's he
retires recently last month. Yeah, in the last month or so.

Speaker 2 (39:09):
Yeah, I like him. He used to play the mock songs?

Speaker 3 (39:13):
Is this another boxer? No doctor?

Speaker 1 (39:16):
This is the king of DJs that would play Novelt songs.
How else will we know? Beep Beep and the Witch doctor? Oh,
the weird al uh yeah, the man who discovered Weirdell
Yankovic absolutely, yeah, oh yeah, I remember his. Al would
would submit songs that he would record on cassette and
he would play them on national radio and you could

(39:38):
tell they were like the original version of another one,
White Rides.

Speaker 2 (39:42):
The Bus, Wife's My Butt?

Speaker 1 (39:45):
Did he do White Time butt too?

Speaker 2 (39:48):
That's how easy it is to do a parody songy
Yankovic is sold rich you were doing Yeah, but you did.
You did parody songs too?

Speaker 1 (39:57):
Yes, I did it, and I thank you, thank you
for more. Har come.

Speaker 2 (40:00):
We're not millionaires from making.

Speaker 1 (40:01):
Parents I already honestly, I wish my brain because I've
been watching a lot of not only new original parodies
so well, actually, there's two Chicago guys that are on
Instagram all over the place and they're doing the dub
Bears thing and they keep doing them too, so each
game of.

Speaker 2 (40:20):
The season, Yeah, I watched it.

Speaker 1 (40:21):
Yeah, they're good, They're funny, They're funny. Yeah, And I'm like, yeah,
my brain used to work like that. But all these
years of dope and drugs and booze and slight.

Speaker 2 (40:32):
Naked, Yeah, I could.

Speaker 1 (40:33):
Barely conjugate a verb, let alone come up with.

Speaker 2 (40:36):
An album conjugation visits.

Speaker 1 (40:39):
I gotta go see my priest about glove, right, the.

Speaker 2 (40:44):
Other glove is wet and drying out somewhere.

Speaker 1 (40:47):
Us about your congregations. Congregations, he's got three socks everywhere. Conjugation.
It's true. Somebody asked earlier how the weather is in Chicago.
We got God must have had some really bad food, because,
uh man, we got just crap on as far as
snow for early November.

Speaker 2 (41:08):
I drove through I drove through two blizzards this weekend
drive into Michigan, and almost.

Speaker 3 (41:16):
Almost doesn't happen to you guys in the middle of
June sometimes too.

Speaker 2 (41:20):
Yeah, yes, I almost.

Speaker 1 (41:22):
Twice April, certainly April.

Speaker 2 (41:24):
But I didn't die. Alm it came close. If someone
else was driving, we definitely would have died. But yeah,
it was nuts man. Yeah, but you know, and then
it's weird, like you drive through a blizzard. Twenty minutes
later the roads are fine, everything's gone, like you gotta
keep paying.

Speaker 1 (41:41):
I'm so sorry. Uh, we got a celebrity watching my girl.

Speaker 2 (41:48):
Oh ohoochie b boom, my dad and his friends.

Speaker 1 (41:53):
I'm sorry, it was these are nine minute old things.
We were right, you know. Oh I didn't by the
gigantic Jeff joining.

Speaker 2 (42:01):
Us Jeff, Oh yeah, I am.

Speaker 1 (42:03):
It was another girl special even see in twenty minutes.

Speaker 2 (42:08):
To watch that and my daughter. Clicks for notifications. So
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Speaker 1 (42:22):
I don't remember this Doctor Demento favorite, The Copproach at
eight Cincinnati. I don't remember that.

Speaker 2 (42:27):
I have no idea, but I was a.

Speaker 1 (42:30):
Massive listener as a kid. That was a great show
man The Funny Five. It's time for number one. Here,
this is it. Here it comes number one. Classic, Hey,
doctor Demento, all your Dimensions and dement Tights. He was
a classic fifties top forty DJ for years before he

(42:51):
started doing the novelty stuff. He's a he's a long
time broadcast massive fan. Of course, here's your comic book
connection already. Yeah, Roddy Hernandez prins out fish Heads. Yeah,
you know who made fish Heads, don't Barnes and Barns.
You know who they were.

Speaker 2 (43:09):
I used to Comic.

Speaker 1 (43:10):
Con Royalty back in the day. It's still one of them,
still is the other one's dead?

Speaker 2 (43:15):
Okay? Yes to wrinkle?

Speaker 3 (43:19):
Or no?

Speaker 1 (43:19):
Am I am I misremembering?

Speaker 2 (43:22):
You want it?

Speaker 1 (43:23):
Actually?

Speaker 3 (43:23):
Man?

Speaker 1 (43:23):
Maybe? No? No, you know he came on me. The
other guy is not dead, and in fact, he's tried
to try to get him on my show Loves It.
It's Richard and I forget Richard's last name. But the
other guy from Barnes and Barnes is Billy Mooney from Wason.

Speaker 3 (43:37):
I've heard that before.

Speaker 2 (43:38):
Yeah, yeah, I didn't like that song though.

Speaker 1 (43:42):
Oh well I heard it. It was ridiculous, but yeah,
for what it was, it was. It's it's like Unfortunately.
It's like most novelty songs, where after about the thirtieth
time you've heard of it, you're like, all right, really
stop playing it.

Speaker 2 (43:54):
Yeah you don't. You don't put him on your playlist,
but you will listen to it.

Speaker 1 (43:58):
Yeah, you know, a good song that absolutely burnt out me.
And now I will like throttle somebody if I hear it.
And it's ironic and it's happy. What's his Face's song?

Speaker 2 (44:08):
Oh? Yeah, yeah, you don't like it?

Speaker 1 (44:12):
You do?

Speaker 2 (44:12):
You don't like I.

Speaker 1 (44:13):
Got sick of it, especially working at the radio station.

Speaker 2 (44:18):
I like that. I like that a lot.

Speaker 1 (44:19):
It was. It was a fun song until until we
found out he and uh the guy from uh uh
yeah exactly, Robert Yeah, yeah, so from Marvin Gay exactly.

Speaker 2 (44:34):
I like that song too.

Speaker 1 (44:36):
It's a it's a good song, but it's like I'm sure,
I'm sure I've told the story before. We were playing
blurred Lines and I'm like, why are we playing? Got
to give it up so much by Marvin Gay And
they're like, no, it's a new song, and I'm like, yeah, no,
and not really.

Speaker 3 (44:49):
Every time you hear uh Ray Parker Junior's Ghostbusters Team
Huey Lewis and the News make a whole bunch of.

Speaker 1 (44:55):
Money rightfully, you know. And that's a shame because Ray
Parker had so many great hits prior to Ghost Boston,
and and all people remember is that he stole from you.

Speaker 2 (45:07):
Yes, he was cool, great guitarist. There's a.

Speaker 1 (45:12):
There's a great sesame street clip of Stevie Wonder performing
Superstition Live.

Speaker 3 (45:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (45:18):
Really, Ray Parker is in the band. He's one of
the guitarist.

Speaker 2 (45:20):
Yeah, there's another guy back there too. I forgot who
else is in it, well.

Speaker 3 (45:25):
Of guys back there because it's a band.

Speaker 2 (45:27):
But there's a yeah, but there's another slavey. I think
it might be Morgan Freeman or I forgot.

Speaker 1 (45:33):
Namer Rudy from Barnes and Barns.

Speaker 2 (45:36):
I'm pretty sure that I got some of Ray Parker
junior songs on my spot Tivy. I've been listening to that.

Speaker 1 (45:42):
Jackets, Jack and Jill or the Other Woman. Yes, good one. Yeah,
that's a good one. And women in Love just like
you and I like you're the.

Speaker 6 (45:55):
Only he can't change that yeah, address too, but they
can't stop me.

Speaker 2 (46:02):
It's you can't change that.

Speaker 1 (46:07):
Radio.

Speaker 3 (46:08):
Back in the day when all the songs had stories
to them. Now it's just like the choruses and and
and that's.

Speaker 1 (46:13):
Yeah put in.

Speaker 3 (46:14):
Yeah, So do you know you know the do you
know the artist Taylor Taylor Momson fis No, she's she's
like a singer. She's a young, young one. I I
know of her.

Speaker 2 (46:29):
I don't know any of her songs for us all.

Speaker 1 (46:34):
Can we address that? I'm sorry, sorry, let me finish
the story.

Speaker 3 (46:37):
Let me finish the story. Taylor Momson is like a
singer like now, now whatever, But I don't know any
of her songs. And she did one of the things
for the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame where she
sang one of the songs for a sound guard because
they inducted sound guard. And then Jim carry is one
that inducted them into the Hall of Fame. And then

(46:57):
they took a picture of them together, Jim, Jim Carrey
and Taylor Mumpson. Taylor Mumpson with Fidney Loeu who in
the movie uh with with Jim Carrey. So that kind
of put my mind. Wow, Yeah, did Jim Carrey Grinch movie?

Speaker 2 (47:12):
How you still was she a little kid?

Speaker 3 (47:14):
She was a little kid.

Speaker 2 (47:15):
Yeah, she's not a little kid. No more right, No,
that's like.

Speaker 1 (47:21):
Daphne who played X twenty three daughter. Yeah, yeah, boy man,
I'm sorry, I'm the boy. I'm really sorry that she's
in her awkward she's doing just fine. Oh my god.
But that's yeah, that like basically put it put her
in Sydney Sweeney at like you know, do up at
ends of your scale and there's a balance, there's a
balanced ticket.

Speaker 2 (47:42):
Kids, you just need a few more. You need a
you know, redhead. You get some nice shades of coffee,
they start auto.

Speaker 3 (47:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (47:49):
I haven't presented other than maybe well until she got
in trouble, and I forget what she got into trouble
for Lana del Rey was the redhead that I guess
could be put on that spectrum as well. I don't
know that one, but something happened her. She did a
song called video Games, among others. She was really big
about five years ago.

Speaker 3 (48:04):
Oh man, that that uh what do you call it? That? Uh?
I saw a picture that Amanda Bindes, remember that cute
girl that that did all those Nickelodeon shows. Oh yeah, yeah,
I saw a picture of her recently. She's got like
these big tattooed eyebrows or.

Speaker 1 (48:22):
Yeah, she's troubled, she's well, shettoo on her face too.

Speaker 2 (48:27):
And she's finally interesting. Yeah, did you.

Speaker 1 (48:32):
As we make fun of human tragedy.

Speaker 2 (48:34):
Right here on the idea but bring it.

Speaker 3 (48:36):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (48:37):
I was going to say, have you have you watched that?
And this is like sad, but I had no and
none of a saddened idea. That amazing Nickelodeon uh documentary
series about the big fat guy.

Speaker 2 (48:47):
That was yeah, touching stuff.

Speaker 1 (48:52):
Touching for touching girl or if not touching girls. He
hired people that touched young and not only girls, also
little boys. The kid from Josh and Drake, the one
that was animated spider.

Speaker 2 (49:02):
Man is the creepy portion of the podcast.

Speaker 1 (49:05):
Sorry he was.

Speaker 3 (49:06):
He was the guy that was on the head of
the class.

Speaker 1 (49:09):
He was the Yes, he was one of the po
and uh billy little people.

Speaker 2 (49:19):
We could fight club style that guy, you know, to
throw him in the no shirt and shave his head,
go for it.

Speaker 1 (49:25):
Yeah he made it. Yeah he made it. He made
a ton of money before he got canceled. So I
don't feel very bad about that. That guy's a bad,
bad person.

Speaker 2 (49:32):
Yeah, he's in a.

Speaker 1 (49:33):
Very bad man. In the words of Billy Mummy and Twilight.

Speaker 2 (49:36):
Soon he might be a listener of our show.

Speaker 1 (49:38):
You never know, could they could be? I wouldn't. It
would not surprise me, no, man.

Speaker 2 (49:43):
Podcasts are easy to get. Yeah, if you're interested in
finding out we're broadcasting, you can go to anywhere your
podcast listeners can can listen.

Speaker 1 (49:53):
They're already here. Why would you tell him that? Why
would you say something like that?

Speaker 2 (49:56):
Well, you gotta know, yeah, you could clip that and
put it as a shoe shoe too short?

Speaker 1 (50:04):
Whatever she had, Jeffrey Darcy, you are correct. Ray Parker
was indeed radio and that was his band in the seventies.
I really he still had Jack and Jill the forty five,
just like do you think Jack man down the hill.

Speaker 2 (50:20):
Because Jill took his bucket? He wanted that he.

Speaker 1 (50:23):
Needed love he couldn't get from Jill, and're dissatisfied with
Jill and the pail of water on the hill.

Speaker 2 (50:31):
She had chicken in that bucket, that's why.

Speaker 3 (50:32):
Well, hey, how do you think Harold.

Speaker 1 (50:38):
Before they went up the hill?

Speaker 3 (50:39):
Why was it?

Speaker 2 (50:40):
Why the boy names Bill would be called Jack?

Speaker 1 (50:42):
Did they have did they have red soda with their chicken.

Speaker 2 (50:45):
On the red pops?

Speaker 1 (50:46):
It's called Redo Red Pop.

Speaker 2 (50:49):
Yeah, we gotta go back, man, see tweets who was coming?

Speaker 1 (50:53):
Oh I didn't remember this boy, Jeffery really paying attention
to the lyrics of Jack and Joe. He loved Little
Red Riding Hood apparently.

Speaker 3 (51:00):
Oh I know that.

Speaker 1 (51:02):
Oh that's another thing. I I went to the Museum
of Broadcasting in Chicago here last week and this guy
that I know that's been on the podcast, Mark Malcoff,
big podcaster, he had the Johnny Carson podcast stuff.

Speaker 2 (51:15):
Shout out to markoff Hey.

Speaker 1 (51:17):
John Davidson one of his indeed a uh, it's being
a John Davidson, one of his guests on the Carson podcasts.
Of his experiences on.

Speaker 2 (51:24):
The Tonight Show, John Davis is still life.

Speaker 1 (51:27):
The beautiful hair, already good hairstuf like eighties and he's
got Yanni hair. He's got like literally hair down.

Speaker 3 (51:34):
The host of the That's Incredible with Frank Tarkton and
Kathy this auburn was like white.

Speaker 1 (51:41):
Well, it's it's great, but you can run barefoot in
his hair.

Speaker 3 (51:44):
I was watching I was watching an old episode of
Emergency and Kathy Lee Crossby was was it it? Boy?
She she was she still flying, She was a Wonderful
from the seventies.

Speaker 1 (51:58):
Actrety know that's that's TV movie wonder Woman with machelbo Is,
the bad guy.

Speaker 2 (52:05):
The Ooraginal wonder Woman. Yeah, blonde terror.

Speaker 1 (52:08):
Yeah. Do you realize she was miscast?

Speaker 3 (52:12):
Yeah, that's right. She got paid though.

Speaker 1 (52:14):
Oh hey, listen, I love she was popular. Col stacked
The Knightstalker too, a really good episodes. She's a Greek
goad but she braced it a Greek gods and she's
a suckubus. She sucks the life out of you.

Speaker 2 (52:27):
There was a there was a channel that had cole
Check on there. It was like the Cold Check channel.

Speaker 1 (52:31):
I watched a few was that on, like a Pluto
or ab or one of.

Speaker 2 (52:34):
The one of those New Year's or something.

Speaker 1 (52:38):
That's a great that's a great show. You'll mean to
tell me that's a vampire running around Las Vegas and
nobody wants to talk about it.

Speaker 2 (52:44):
Yeah, yeah, it was okay.

Speaker 1 (52:46):
He Matt Show.

Speaker 2 (52:48):
Special effects were cool because the flamp is from Italy. Yea,
the vampire was just a guy in Ali with Cyburns clause.

Speaker 1 (52:56):
He was a real and the pilot it is a
real vampire.

Speaker 2 (52:59):
And then, uh, I know that's what he looked. That's
what he looked like.

Speaker 1 (53:03):
Yeah, no, I thought I get for seventies TV.

Speaker 2 (53:05):
I thought he was It was awesome.

Speaker 1 (53:07):
He was getting teeth. He just basically had like a
scout on his face and he had big teeth, big, big,
big big teeth. Jimmy only Jimmy Walker on Good Times,
big teeth, really big big teeth. Dyna mind classic that show.
That show went from being like All in the Family,
like serious at times to nothing but Dyno mite. And

(53:29):
that's when I.

Speaker 2 (53:30):
Checked Good Times.

Speaker 1 (53:31):
He yes, it was left and yes, yes esther neck
rolls rolls.

Speaker 2 (53:41):
Yeah you could.

Speaker 1 (53:43):
You could. You could put the library cards in the
folds of her neck.

Speaker 2 (53:47):
You could charge your bank account.

Speaker 1 (53:49):
It's true.

Speaker 2 (53:51):
I know when when when the dad died, everyone thought
the real guy died in real life. Same same with
full Esther Archie Bunker's wife what's her name? When she show,
people thought.

Speaker 1 (54:03):
Yeah, literally lived like another.

Speaker 2 (54:04):
Twenty Yes I'm not I'm not dead.

Speaker 1 (54:08):
And it was great because I saw remember when Donnie
and Marie had a talk show at daytime?

Speaker 3 (54:14):
Touch I I mean yeah, it was a good old
enough to remember when they had a variety show.

Speaker 1 (54:18):
Well, of course, in the nineties on their show they
had Geene Stapleton and Carol O'Connor on Yeah, and and
either Donnie or Marie Leans And to Jeane Stanblton goes,
would you do the voice for us? And she's like no, no.
It was really like, yeah, not not happening. Move on,
as I have.

Speaker 2 (54:36):
I met, I met Donnie and Marie, Donnie and Marie
real briefly. Yeah, I was I went to no I
went to a no. I went to a TV convention
with Butch Patrick and he had a badge from me
and I flew out there. I was in Louisiana. It
was real swampy and hot, but I had a we
had to dress up with the tie. And he was pitching. Uh,

(54:59):
he was pitch in the show called thirteen thirteenth Theater
where he was hosting. He was like, like SPINGOULI sure
he was the host and it was him and another
later actress and she had big hair like the Briden Frigustine. Yeah,
it was pretty. I don't know if he got picked up, but.

Speaker 1 (55:15):
There might be evidence of it somewhere.

Speaker 2 (55:17):
So yeah, And it was the backdrop. The booth had
the you know the backdrop with the bricks and the
screen and he had a puppet, I think, And but
I got in. I got in because I did storyboards
for his commercial he was going to do. He was
going to do a commercial for Mac and Cheese and
they wanted a storyboard for the commercials. So I drew

(55:39):
him dressed in the Eddie Munster makeup with eating Mac
and cheese, and he he told me to come by
the show or that they had a convention TV convention,
and I got a badge and I met Donnie Marie
where all these shows had booths, like Warner Brothers had
a big booth, like all these teeth, Prayer amount, all

(56:01):
these big companies, all the channels. Yeah, so I met uh.
Donae Marie were there and they were sitting in chairs
and looked like their set. And I met. It was
real brief, just say hello and shake your hand. And
then I got pictures with the cast of Everyone Loves
Raymond So and I remember telling nice to see you.

(56:23):
I love your show man. I watched all the time.
He goes, what about Monday night football. I'm like, yeah,
I watched that too, but yours better, and he went
all right, And I took a picture with him and
the him and the wife and the mom and dad,
and then I yeah, and then yeah, and this was there.
This show was still And then I met I met.

Speaker 1 (56:41):
You met the parents team at Doris Robertson Peter Boyle.

Speaker 2 (56:44):
Yeah, yeah, I got a picture with them. And I
met Pamela Anderson was there? Pamela Anderson was I think
it was Vi p Yeah, And I met them and uh,
and what do you call it? I got to hang
out with Jerry's bring her the longest. He talked to
me to most. I had a little conversation.

Speaker 1 (57:04):
He was looking for someone of the doctors.

Speaker 3 (57:06):
You were from Chicago and he was from Yeah.

Speaker 2 (57:07):
I told him yeah, and I said watch the show
and he goes, oh, I'm.

Speaker 1 (57:10):
So sorry, exactly, like to apologize for Aluly.

Speaker 2 (57:15):
I saw David Hasselhoff. He was cool. He was like
when you see Hasselhoff, you really feel like he's the celebrity.
He's a lot of handsome. When he's in person, he's
real tall and he's dreaming. He had the open collar, like, man,
this guy is incredible.

Speaker 1 (57:31):
I was very bummed that we didn't get a Nick
Fiery TV series. Oh yes, it was right there for
us and it didn't happen.

Speaker 2 (57:37):
So I think that's where I met that. Oh, I
can't remember, but I met a lot of people there. Yeah,
it was pretty well.

Speaker 1 (57:42):
I couldn't find any information on on a Butcher Patrick
horror show like thirteen thirteen, but that's a great idea.

Speaker 2 (57:47):
Yeah, I don't know if it was. I don't know
if he was looking for pitch it or something.

Speaker 1 (57:51):
But I would assume that, like like Franco said that, Yeah,
they were trying to get interest in it.

Speaker 2 (57:55):
Yeah, and this was before this was before internet. I
don't think I even had an email yet. It was
probably around ninety It's probably round ninety seven, ninety eight,
ninety somewhere like that. So Internet was there, but not
as cool as it is now.

Speaker 1 (58:07):
You forget all the different celebrities that had daytime shows too.
From the Captain and had one, Martin Martin Shorts had
one for a while.

Speaker 2 (58:16):
I remember that, Yeah, share Share after song?

Speaker 1 (58:20):
Did I have one? Oh? All right, I'm gonna I'm
gonna say more crappy things about my ex husband. Yeah,
and my my now son Chasaity will be out apart
Chads and he'll performed for us. Yeah, of course, dog,
But Yeah, that was a that was a big show. Ricky.

Speaker 2 (58:39):
Oh. My cousin used to write Ricky Lake once a
week too, because she went to her. No, she said,
my cousin meaning me, had a crush on her. I
would go after school.

Speaker 1 (58:53):
Yeah me yeah, and wrote the letters.

Speaker 2 (58:56):
No, but I would go to her her house once
a week. I'd have a class that ended early, and
I show up at my cousin's house because she would
come home from high school.

Speaker 3 (59:05):
I think you met Ricky Lake's house.

Speaker 2 (59:09):
So I would get to my cousin's house right when
Ricky Lake was starting. So I we'd sit and watch
Ricky Lake. Then I get on a bus and go
home the rest of.

Speaker 1 (59:16):
Way, but think about Ricky and I would.

Speaker 2 (59:18):
Say, Wow, she's so cute.

Speaker 3 (59:20):
She's good.

Speaker 2 (59:22):
Before I discovered Wendy Williams. But Ricky Lake, man, she
was dreamy and so so uh she I'm going to
write to her. So she wrote to her a bunch
of times, so I never got a response coming for you.

Speaker 1 (59:36):
I was watching both the clip of The Kelly Clarkson
Show and then I watched her video for since You've
Been Gone. Oh yeah, and it's I love that song.
That's great. She had a couple of good songs. I
like that one, and I liked walk Away. I was
a big fan of walk Away.

Speaker 2 (59:51):
I don't know that she had a moment.

Speaker 1 (59:53):
Look it up. It's a good song. It's a good song.
She had great people, not that she wasn't tell died
herself and she is, but she she had liked it
all going on, and I think that's why they were
bummed when she started gaining weight and they're like, yeah,
but you could still be and she's like, no, this
is who I am. Back off, And God bless her

(01:00:14):
for sticking to her guns and had she was.

Speaker 3 (01:00:19):
She was on the voice and doing her talk show
at the same time, so she was was making some
some some good cashola there for a while.

Speaker 1 (01:00:29):
Oh very Barry Lopez. I don't know what con it is,
but he says he's got his tickets for the Conegan Diego.
There you go.

Speaker 2 (01:00:42):
So far. I submitted all the stuff. I don't they
sent them in here in March.

Speaker 1 (01:00:46):
Oh, I don't know. Ken Ducks says that that she's
lost weight recently. Ricky Lake no, well, yeah, I don't
know which one they them.

Speaker 2 (01:00:56):
I know Ricky Lake is gray hair and she was still.

Speaker 1 (01:01:01):
Yeah, she's probably.

Speaker 3 (01:01:04):
Much younger than my wife watches her. She does all
these videos that she puts up on the videos and stuff. Yeah,
you can look her up my wife. My wife say
she's real cute. She's got like uh you know, uh,
she's older with gray hair and stuff like that.

Speaker 2 (01:01:18):
But I had to let go of a lot of
these ladies.

Speaker 3 (01:01:22):
You know, you can get it back with the social media.

Speaker 2 (01:01:24):
Really, I could have to find them. I got to
make a list of the ones I remember.

Speaker 1 (01:01:28):
Yeah, that's so funny.

Speaker 2 (01:01:29):
But I don't watch Stevie as much. I feel like
the nineties when I was poor, you know, I couldn't
watch anything nothing.

Speaker 1 (01:01:36):
She just watched three runs on streaming or what do
you want?

Speaker 2 (01:01:38):
Yeah, I watch I've been watching a lot of shows
about how to kill your wife on Netflix. Those are
pretty good, like, and I figured there's always some no
she knows, she recommended a few and.

Speaker 1 (01:01:53):
If you want to kill me already.

Speaker 3 (01:01:55):
Yeah, I wind up watching those just because they're easy
to like listen to.

Speaker 1 (01:01:59):
Yeah, oh absolutely, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:02:02):
And so I watch a lot of the real crime
shows or kids kids go hiking and only one returns,
and like, what happened to your girlfriend. So so those
are the interesting. There's always a show about, uh, a
cruise or something goes bad on a cruise, either somebody
disappears or somebody poops on someone else or something happens.
So I've been watching that, but I don't watch a

(01:02:24):
lot of I don't watch a lot of live TV.
I watch them, Oh, at dinner, we watch them two
and a half men. I started watching it from the
beginning because I never saw the whole thing, so I
always saw the Ashton Kutre episodes.

Speaker 1 (01:02:42):
They got too stupid, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:02:45):
And they got a little bit too out it.

Speaker 1 (01:02:46):
Like Allen was trying as opposed to Alan's, you know,
John just a loser period.

Speaker 2 (01:02:51):
It's as long as there's money.

Speaker 1 (01:02:54):
Yeah, well and go hey man, God bless them for
running the string post that Charlie Sheen is long with.

Speaker 2 (01:02:59):
Four years or so.

Speaker 3 (01:03:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:03:00):
Oh yeah, but I'm watching the We put him on.
I just put it on at dinner. I just put
on a pilot. And just because I never saw the
first season, especially for a season, and he was knowing, yeah,
knowing how it ends too with us. Now I see
that Rose character is in the first episode, and it's cool.
It's like and I like watching it for the writing

(01:03:23):
and the jokes and the gags, and it's just really
good show. And we're watching and we're sitting in my
wife's like, what is this Like, Oh, it's Charlie Harper, okay,
and that's why that's what I.

Speaker 1 (01:03:34):
Called it, Charlie Harper.

Speaker 2 (01:03:36):
So the next day, the next day, uh, we're eat dinner,
she goes put Charlie on and his brother Like okay,
then we called it Charlie and his brother. So she
has her put Charlie on. So we watched Charlie Harper today,
but it skipped around. Man, it skipped over and we
saw an episode three or season three episode. I'm like,

(01:03:57):
why is this Why did it look different? So it jump? Yeah,
it jumps. So I got to go back into the recording.

Speaker 1 (01:04:02):
Because I have c shows mostly Machine episodes and then
goes to like a two hour like for like four
hours or whatever, and then we'll go to like a
two hour block of the ASH episodes and stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:04:15):
Oh yeah, I watch I said it to record him
so I could go back to the seasons watch them
in order.

Speaker 3 (01:04:21):
Now, sure, you know, to find out you find out
where they're streaming. If you have the service. Watch.

Speaker 2 (01:04:27):
They're only on YouTube TV, yeah somewhere, but they all
have commercials so far. Sure, So I just put YouTube
TV and just fast forward to commercial.

Speaker 1 (01:04:38):
Uh have you gotten to where John Quier's dating the
really young twenty year old Candy the real?

Speaker 2 (01:04:43):
Yeah, I know what's coming. I'm watching.

Speaker 1 (01:04:45):
She was he was rita elastic girl in the and
and it was so sweet. I saw a Two and
a half Men fan thread on Facebook and somebody picked
up you know, throughout these I mean, she's a stunning woman. Yes,
she's awesome, but I had this great picture of her
and everyone's like, oh man, you know what, and I'm like,
you know, honestly looks aside, she really impressed me on

(01:05:10):
Doom Patrol. I go, it's a total one eighty of
what she puts on Two and a half Men, And
I'm like, and she nailed it. And I know it
took me like half an episode to realize it was
the same woman. And she responded and it was since
you think, thank you very much? Okay, would you? And
of course I wrote would you like to be up
on podcast? That I never Yeah, seems like you get

(01:05:33):
lots of loser. No, I'm sorry I winked at you.
Now get the Helloween.

Speaker 2 (01:05:39):
Let me do a Google search first.

Speaker 1 (01:05:42):
April I believe it her name.

Speaker 2 (01:05:44):
Yeah, she's up. She heard an interview with her too,
and she's not anything.

Speaker 3 (01:05:49):
But you know what, you know what that's called acting.

Speaker 2 (01:05:52):
Indeed, except for Charlie Sheen, he's the same guy. I
saw that one too on Netflix.

Speaker 1 (01:05:58):
The document.

Speaker 2 (01:05:59):
Yeah, he's I like him though. He's cool. But he
said a lot of a lot of stuff that no
one knows about, which is pretty awesome. Yeah, especially was
interesting Kim Dog. Yeah, I liked it. A lot of
stuff like that.

Speaker 1 (01:06:13):
I guess the amount of sports memorabilia Charlie Sheen has
his ridiculous well yeah yeah, and he was a kid.
He was a kid with the immediate success, a lot
of money.

Speaker 3 (01:06:20):
There was a show there was a show on HBO
with that Sebastian Men of Scalco yep guy where.

Speaker 1 (01:06:26):
He was a comedian Where's the Bookie?

Speaker 3 (01:06:28):
Where's the Bookie? And on a couple of episodes, Charlie
Sheen is in there because himself gambling and he wants
to pay off his debt with sports rebelia.

Speaker 1 (01:06:38):
H cool. Yeah, you know that guy's fine. I respect
that guy. I know he's funny, but he kind of
bothers me in that same Larry the Cable guys sort
of way where he's in character too much. It's like,
you know, you can still be funny and you don't
have to be I went out, I got ack and
the back feet and my father.

Speaker 2 (01:06:59):
My father said, and I look at the door, and
my Mom's like, close the curtain. Yeah, I like, you know,
he's funny again.

Speaker 1 (01:07:06):
I think it's funny, but that delivery annoys man.

Speaker 2 (01:07:08):
But what happens is like when you get another new show,
a new special, and he's the same. You know. That's
what I really like him. I'd like him. I really
like gaff again a lot.

Speaker 1 (01:07:20):
I literally already read my mind because I was gonna
say Gaff again. Stuff is always the same. He lays
me out and honestly, yeah, I hate to sound like
a grandma. I like him because he's clean, but he's good.

Speaker 2 (01:07:34):
It's harder to clean and be funny than swearing, because
you could just swear and it goes.

Speaker 3 (01:07:41):
Yeah, he'll be telling a story and then he goes.

Speaker 2 (01:07:43):
But but I like to eat.

Speaker 3 (01:07:44):
Yeah, that's not there's.

Speaker 2 (01:07:46):
That voice again to do this, He's fine. I love
that love that he always does. And this guy from
Australia's here, man, you're gonna do it and he goes, yeah,
you didn't know. He does real bad accents. He's fine.

Speaker 1 (01:07:59):
It's still Actually he's from Indiana, but he did live
a good portion of his early years in Chicago breaking
in a comedy.

Speaker 2 (01:08:06):
And he's in he's in New York City now.

Speaker 1 (01:08:08):
Yeah, now he's in New York? State of mind? Is Billy?
What's it?

Speaker 2 (01:08:11):
Billy?

Speaker 1 (01:08:13):
I still finish that memory from HBO about Billy who
I don't want to see him? Did teary Billy Joel?

Speaker 2 (01:08:21):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (01:08:22):
Really?

Speaker 2 (01:08:23):
Yeah, that's right.

Speaker 1 (01:08:24):
It's very good. And I love those those years to
where it ended and stuff. He as I've said before,
he launt me when he in the nineties when he
came out with and the Random of the NYE love
that album.

Speaker 2 (01:08:39):
Yeah, I like it.

Speaker 1 (01:08:39):
Of course you do.

Speaker 3 (01:08:42):
Music shaming.

Speaker 1 (01:08:43):
I can't help I have to, because who eventually you're
going to learn.

Speaker 3 (01:08:48):
I'm going to learn what I like? How about that?

Speaker 1 (01:08:50):
I like whatever?

Speaker 2 (01:08:53):
I like the Stormfront album.

Speaker 3 (01:08:54):
Every time, every time Who's Who is on the radio,
I take a picture and send it to you does
he Johnny every every time, every time Who comes on
the radio, I snap a picture of it and I
text Johnny.

Speaker 2 (01:09:08):
The guy I've ever heard that song in a long time.

Speaker 3 (01:09:11):
Every other day now.

Speaker 1 (01:09:13):
The guy who co wrote her autobiography, This guy, David Ritz.
He also wrote Rickles book and recently he wrote this book.
Co wrote this book about Johnny Carson, the guy the
podcast guy that I talked to well and they were
talking about when he wrote Aretha Franklin's. He wrote both
her autobiography with her cooperation, but he knew she was
holding stuff back. So after she died then he released

(01:09:35):
a biography and that not dirt but just you know,
other stuff that she didn't want to get into in
the autobigraphy but was documented and also had earned the
trust of everyone in her circle and they felt they
felt comfortable telling her real story. So but yeah, he's
like by then, as I as I had, you know,
say about the who Zoomings Who and post Era for Arita,

(01:09:55):
she kind of gave up and was just like, you
need an album, hold.

Speaker 2 (01:09:59):
On assuming Who and Whitney Houston song how would I
Know He Loves Me? Is the same song if you
listen to music, and she's given in there's a who
assuming Zoo clip in and Whitney song when she goes
because you know about these things they show Aretha.

Speaker 3 (01:10:22):
Listen to the song.

Speaker 2 (01:10:23):
Huh, I remember it from that?

Speaker 1 (01:10:25):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:10:26):
Also to know in fact, every time both of those
songs are played, Huey Lewis and the news get gets.

Speaker 2 (01:10:31):
Really because they invented Aretha Frankelnstein. Yeah, oh that's my character.
I got a character called Eureka Franklinstein. She's a giant
monster that screams and shatters windows. She's coming out in
a new act kid book in January and she makes
another May and my website just remember we're being.

Speaker 1 (01:10:53):
Too dirty for Mike Jones. I'm sorry, man, He says,
Grandma secretly likes the blue humor. She's not friend of
the grand kids. Line.

Speaker 2 (01:10:59):
Oh yeah, the blue what's the blue humor?

Speaker 1 (01:11:02):
The dirty stuff?

Speaker 2 (01:11:04):
Dirty is Grammar likes it?

Speaker 1 (01:11:06):
Well, I think he's saying metaphorically, if you will, Yeah, hey, Gramma,
the old people like the blue humor, but maybe not
in front of the grandson.

Speaker 2 (01:11:14):
Oh you gotta be selected.

Speaker 1 (01:11:15):
Put your headphones on, Yeah, exactly, put your headphones on.
Keed Dog is happy that Doctor Who is coming back
for Christmas twenty six. Yeah, maybe they'll address the Billy Piper.

Speaker 2 (01:11:25):
Hey, why though, why they keep making it?

Speaker 4 (01:11:28):
Well, well they you know an audience, Man, I knew
what you were going to say.

Speaker 1 (01:11:34):
You know, Doctor Who's them?

Speaker 2 (01:11:40):
They should make it a way of love? Is she
the next one to get one of those rock star
documentaries document auto movies? What do they call it? A
bio pick?

Speaker 3 (01:11:51):
Yeah, they already have one. It's called The Blues Brothers.

Speaker 2 (01:11:54):
Really, oh, brother, that's a good way.

Speaker 1 (01:11:57):
Classic mm hmmm. I saw, I saw it. I didn't
watch it, but on YouTube somebody put up Blues Brothers
two thousand, the sequel nobody wanted, and it's like, yeah, no.

Speaker 2 (01:12:07):
Ship and nobody watched it either.

Speaker 1 (01:12:09):
I saw it. I saw in the theater.

Speaker 2 (01:12:11):
I'm never gonna we saw it.

Speaker 1 (01:12:13):
I was still working at x RT back then. We
all saw it because of the music, because Johnny Lang
was in a great blues guy and uh, Sam Moore
was in it, kind of in the way that James
Brown was in the first one. Sam or was the
picture in the in the sequel, terrible movie.

Speaker 2 (01:12:28):
Though, I'm gonna watch it for the articles exactly pretty
much pretty I'm never gonna watch it. It's like you're never good,
don't kid you, sir. John Goodman was in there, remember
that terrible I'm not a pulser.

Speaker 1 (01:12:39):
And remember I remember they they did a Super Bowl
halftime show with the Blues Brothers and it was John
Goodman and it's like, yeah, once you have Sean do that.

Speaker 2 (01:12:47):
Yeah, we need we need a fat guy.

Speaker 3 (01:12:49):
So it looks.

Speaker 2 (01:12:49):
Like like like, yeah, she's still live, right, we don't
want to get his brother.

Speaker 1 (01:12:54):
Well, even Jim. I don't even want to see Jim
in the Blues Brothers.

Speaker 3 (01:12:57):
That's why Roseanne got jealous and did the National with them.

Speaker 1 (01:13:03):
Then she took some ambium and she starts singing appropriate
things about the National League. Let me tell you, I
sound about that league? Am I an ambience?

Speaker 2 (01:13:10):
Watch people look like gorillas or something. She was dead
talking about plan of the Apes.

Speaker 1 (01:13:14):
That was the ambient thing. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, is that
people have a problem with that? Yeah, you know, to
show the Connors, uh, they're going to continue without you.

Speaker 2 (01:13:24):
Yeah, you can't do that no more to people, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:13:26):
No, you can't rightfully appropriately. So it's like reput.

Speaker 2 (01:13:31):
Youself wait, did she just call me a monkey and
a ring attained to be?

Speaker 1 (01:13:35):
We should probably move on from the subject, I think
everybody but it's funny, it is, but but it's also
we're on the tightropes. I don't want to be.

Speaker 2 (01:13:44):
They're on the fence Baltazar. Yeah, you know. I walk
up to the line, but I don't cross over. I
look over it with some monoculars.

Speaker 1 (01:13:53):
All right, So that's what danger third Rail.

Speaker 3 (01:13:58):
Say.

Speaker 1 (01:13:58):
I know, you know, so I don't watch reality shows.
What I do watch, and because they're smarter, is British
game shows. And honestly, what I love is you get smarter.

Speaker 2 (01:14:11):
I'll explain reality or smarter.

Speaker 1 (01:14:13):
Smarter than us a game shows Americans. Because here's now, let.

Speaker 2 (01:14:19):
Me set up appreciation. I got a story here, comfortable here, alright,
go ahead.

Speaker 1 (01:14:25):
Good story, all right, I'm gonna pull Francis. Got a
story starts right, go ahead.

Speaker 2 (01:14:28):
I'm teasing you.

Speaker 1 (01:14:30):
I know. There's a game show called Pointless, and the
idea is to set up the question they asked the contestants.
They ask one hundred people for one hundred being one
hundred seconds, name your favorite Aretha Franklin. So, and you
are supposed to come up with a correct answer, but
the least popular answer among the hundred people, so obviously

(01:14:54):
respect it's gonna have like ninety five people saying who's
only have people go ahead, frank.

Speaker 3 (01:15:00):
But like a reverse family feud, basically yes, yes, okay.

Speaker 1 (01:15:05):
And that's why it's called point. And if you get
one like a song like do write Woman that nobody
remembers but was a hit of LaRita, Franklins admitted of
the top forty and it's a zero. Then they add
money to the jackpot at the end of the show
that they asked the final contestants a breg question. And
it's hard. And also what I love about it is
it's general. Now, so does pop culture, does movies, it

(01:15:27):
does TV everything, but it also does like types of
birds and hard pop culture, like all right, let's do
the best sellers of two thousand and five the books,
and you get these working class people that have spent
their lives in the well. I've been working in the
code mines for thirty five years, so my chemistry and

(01:15:51):
knowledge isn't what it used to be. But I believe
the periodic table symbol for oxygen is oh, you know,
and it's like but hard ones, and I'm like they
have I'm like, this is a great idea for a
game show. It's so clever. And of course they tried
it in America and it failed because the contestants were
too stupid because what's your favorite color?

Speaker 2 (01:16:11):
What the word on the street videos? People don't even
know what to state exactly exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:16:17):
So that's my pointless story and mentioning that already. Have
you seen the people on Instagram where they asked the
young women and it's guys and a girl and to
be like, okay, who are the Allies in World War two?
What the Allies in World War two? What does that mean? Well?
You know, like who was on our side? Was Japan
on our side?

Speaker 2 (01:16:37):
Now, Barbara?

Speaker 1 (01:16:38):
Exactly? And or when did World War One happen? I
think like sixteen hundreds and it was bag because they
have one woman on who's like, well, I'm native American
and our people have been at warfare. Yeah, but that's
not the question. The question is when World War one happened.
I don't know, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:16:53):
Right before World War two?

Speaker 1 (01:16:54):
So anyway, yeah, exactly, as Rudy points out, Instead, in
America week game shows like ninety nine to beat to
beat at the floor. Exactly the floor. That's why I
believe that's Rob Lowe's show, the floor, Rob the Floor.
I think that's a crylic tile. I could be. It
looks like would but it's actually vinyl.

Speaker 2 (01:17:13):
What kind of that's ceramic?

Speaker 1 (01:17:15):
Exactly the floor?

Speaker 2 (01:17:17):
The floor made out of concrete.

Speaker 1 (01:17:20):
Or or I was telling a friend about him if
you Win It or or a Deal or No Deal,
where the intenre game is hot chicks opening briefcases and
Howie Mendel All the banker's really upset. I don't know. Yeah,
it is the most inane show literally as a chance
Corsese says on the movie Quiz Show, people don't care

(01:17:41):
about this questions. They're watching the money. Don't want to
watch lad and that's the only other deal. But I
love that show that it's and I can't believe in
today's political correct atmosphere that you know, all right, here's
twenty five hot women with briefcases. That's the show.

Speaker 2 (01:17:57):
I was gonna say a bad joke, but we make
it cancel.

Speaker 1 (01:18:00):
Did they about the movie Idiocracy? Yes, great movie, Mike Judge.

Speaker 3 (01:18:05):
They have a Deal or No Deal Island.

Speaker 2 (01:18:07):
Recently they did they combined them or some temptation island
deal or no deal.

Speaker 1 (01:18:15):
And they gave all the contestants handguns as well.

Speaker 2 (01:18:17):
Yeah, yeah, they should have one with just monkeys open and.

Speaker 3 (01:18:21):
They have hot women. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:18:24):
Yeah, maybe because it was hot out there.

Speaker 2 (01:18:26):
Maybe couldn't take the chimp for one hundred and then
they opened.

Speaker 1 (01:18:31):
I was that I was at a friend's house and
he was watching Milf manor speaking of.

Speaker 2 (01:18:35):
Bad realities, milf Manner, Oh my god.

Speaker 3 (01:18:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:18:38):
And it's funny because they did a parody of that
idea on thirty Rock, where Alc. Paulwin's like, it's a
great idea of the melon. We've got a bunch of
cougars and a bunch of barely legal voice excited to
meet the cougars and everything, and now it's real milf manner,
ladies and gentlemen.

Speaker 2 (01:18:55):
That's what I That's how I think the show with
the karate Kid, what's it called Cobra Cobra Kai. There's
been episodes of How I Met Your Mother where Barney
was getting married and he invited he invited, uh Billy
is that his name? He invited him to his weddings.

Speaker 1 (01:19:16):
Remind me he's the blonde guy from from Cobra and.

Speaker 2 (01:19:23):
In the show in the How I Met Your Mother, Uh,
Barney like yeah, because he said, you're the real karate kid.
That kid did you an illegal kick? And he explained
the whole show. And when you watch Cobra Kai, that
was the concept. And I bet you that that's where

(01:19:43):
the karate Kid people. Billy said, hey man, this is
a great show. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:19:50):
Oh, I remember the press conferences for the first season
of Cobra Kai where Johnny's explaining that, explaining the concept,
and it's like, oh no, that's brilliant. I'll admit I
felt off. I didn't. I didn't watch it till the end,
and it's funny. I Chucky just gave me the movie
to watch.

Speaker 3 (01:20:06):
But but yeah, that was the first Jackie Channon and
Ralph MACKI right, yes.

Speaker 2 (01:20:11):
Yeah, he teamed up. Yeah, they merged all your universe exactly.
I saw the first maybe two seasons of and it's
like it became the same, it became more of them.

Speaker 1 (01:20:24):
Yeah. No, I like like great Johnny stories. Yeah, especially
the first last season. Oh my god, it's a great story.

Speaker 2 (01:20:32):
I want to see the rest, but I'll take my
time I'll get there.

Speaker 1 (01:20:35):
I've been I've been cleaning the house for a change,
and I clean. I did. I did just in time
for the big snowstorm that we got. I'm not kidding them,
but no. I went through let's go through my exactly.
I went through my external hard drives and U the

(01:20:56):
cinema show exactly. And aside from the porn, I on
this show from the twenty tens called strike Back, and
it was on Cinemats and it was about a military
espionage team that was breaking up terror cells and stuff.
And it's great because half of it is really violent
testosterone military action nice, and the other half of is

(01:21:18):
six And there are literally episodes right before a mission
where a guy will like with a with a female spy,
be like, you know, we got two hours, how are
we going to kill it? And then they cut to
and it's so I mean, it is so blatantly like
you don't have to guess what the imagery is where
you got jeepsks and guns cut too, there's sex and

(01:21:39):
thisssing a girl on her breasts back to guns.

Speaker 2 (01:21:42):
Booms going through tunnels.

Speaker 1 (01:21:44):
I was crying laughing at how like, I'm like, all right,
this is all right, that's the kind of show we missed.
Why is in that show?

Speaker 2 (01:21:51):
And I tell them, what does it call?

Speaker 3 (01:21:53):
You?

Speaker 2 (01:21:53):
A strike?

Speaker 3 (01:21:54):
Force?

Speaker 1 (01:21:54):
Strike back strike?

Speaker 2 (01:21:56):
See when you first said, I thought it was going
to be a show about bowling.

Speaker 1 (01:22:00):
Welcome described that bag. You watch celebrity bowling, that's that's
been on. That's a great show from the seventies.

Speaker 2 (01:22:10):
I would like that.

Speaker 1 (01:22:11):
Yep, that's right. Kem dog is right. Johnny was a
bullying back to school as well.

Speaker 2 (01:22:16):
We had a we had a publisher one time take
us out for bowling after a convention and yeah, right, yeah,
I forgot what I forgot. But I told him, don't
you think are the artists wil bowl with bowl with
their opposite hand? He was why, I said, because it's
going to hurt. He went, oh, he felt so bad.

Speaker 1 (01:22:35):
He kind of told me if I can't bowl anymore
because my knuckles swell. Oh, And it broke my heart
because I loved bowling ever since I was a little kid.
Can't fit in my forties, in my thirties, actually, truly,
that's what happens.

Speaker 2 (01:22:52):
To really hurt.

Speaker 1 (01:22:54):
Why did you get hurt? You got carple carpal tunnels
and on the other too. I believe they do now
because again because I'm an old man at it. Sorrythritis,
but this is more than twenty years ago in my thirties.

Speaker 2 (01:23:08):
I haven't had your swollen Joe.

Speaker 1 (01:23:10):
My sister, my sister Penny, for my fortieth birthday, arranged
a bowling party with all my friends in a surprise party.
So they were like there and no, no, like the
whole three people showed up. No, actually no, it's nice.
A lot of my friends and different groups of friends.
And I'm just bouncing around from laying the lane. She's like,

(01:23:30):
how come you're not bowling. I'm like, I can't bowling,
Like what are you talking about it? And I'm like, yeah,
it doesn't work anymore. Oh my oh it's broke.

Speaker 2 (01:23:38):
So you need one hole? You could grab all of it,
you know.

Speaker 1 (01:23:41):
Exactly, never forget you're a Mellon classic. But yeah, you know, yeah,
what's it? But without using the holes, no, even even
gripping the ball Stanley Field part of the expression yeah
is a challenge.

Speaker 2 (01:23:55):
Gripping the ball comes problem when you get older.

Speaker 3 (01:23:59):
You both at the same time.

Speaker 1 (01:24:01):
I know, actually I should lub up before I bawl.
That would probably help.

Speaker 2 (01:24:05):
Yeah, slippery guys bits slippery right now, break got.

Speaker 1 (01:24:10):
The jargons for me. I'm about the ball.

Speaker 2 (01:24:12):
My favorite part of all bowling was putting my hand
over that air. Sure, I enjoyed that part the most.

Speaker 1 (01:24:19):
Who's sweating that badly that they could?

Speaker 2 (01:24:22):
You can hold the ball, like when the ball's coming,
the ball's coming and it stops selling.

Speaker 1 (01:24:27):
Yeah, and that slows down he grabs it. Yeah, God
stuff I've said before. My father was such a great bowler,
sponsors wanted to turn him pro.

Speaker 2 (01:24:37):
My father was a bowler.

Speaker 1 (01:24:38):
It was my dad at our at our restaurant, our,
our PiZZ area. We had a canopy over the bar
and it was loaded with trophies and literally ninety percent
of them were my dad's bowling trophies. He was part
of his few golfing trophies. That was He's like, now
that's a challenge, which is it's a skill. But yeah,

(01:24:58):
he was. He was a great, great bullet. He really
was a great bullet. I never he never did a
three hundred game, but he did high two eighties a
few times.

Speaker 3 (01:25:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:25:06):
Both both sports involved balls and holes, which is cool.

Speaker 3 (01:25:10):
I really turned off to golf when I worked as
a production assistant for a camera television crew, and we
had to go golf and the hardest thing to do
was film that little freaking white ball in like against
white clouds and the blue sky.

Speaker 1 (01:25:27):
And follow the ball as I got. There's a by
the way, great golf sitcom on Apple that, oh wow,
Owen Wilson did. It's called Stick and finds he's like
that watched up pro and he finds this kid prodigy
that is just incredible and it was good and Mark
Maren is in it. Good man, Hey, where Maria come?

(01:25:50):
And watching it? Must there must not be a Mavericks
game on TV right now.

Speaker 2 (01:25:54):
I think they're already out of the playoffs.

Speaker 1 (01:25:57):
In November, they're already out of it.

Speaker 2 (01:25:59):
He hates what the man's louse pulling for dollars?

Speaker 1 (01:26:04):
Yeah, celebrity bowling though it was a guy that used
to be on one of the CBS soap operas. He
was the host, and it's from the seventies and everybody
is that was a celebrity is on this thing and
like it's great and it's just them just straight up bowling.
Every now and then they might make a wise crack,
but otherwise they're bowling a bunch of kids are on there.

(01:26:24):
Look up celebrity bowling are you'll find there's episodes on YouTube.

Speaker 2 (01:26:27):
Like Battle in a Network Stars.

Speaker 1 (01:26:29):
Yeah, but it's just a half hour game show of bowling.

Speaker 2 (01:26:31):
Mm hm.

Speaker 1 (01:26:32):
And and Roy Rogers, the Cowboys star was a great
bowler and he's on a couple episodes, which is crazy.
But all these celebrities, all these seventies celebrities are on there.
And yeah, the both Marshall Brady and Jan Brady are
a team. They're on there.

Speaker 2 (01:26:49):
Oh no, is that appropriate?

Speaker 1 (01:26:50):
Well, hear it actually, and they were underage, but you know,
kind of because of the seventies and stuff. Yeah, they
were then they weren't No, well that's don't matter. They
weren't wearing bras when they would shoot. And the producers
are like, listen, this is a good show. You got
to wear a bra. Stop it. And another woman that
did that was an adult and it was okay. But

(01:27:11):
now she's trying bewitched Elizabeth Montgomery in the later in
the Dick Sergeant secondary episodes, there are a lot of
episodes where she ain't wearing no bratt.

Speaker 2 (01:27:20):
I heard she had she wanted a protest or something
she wanted.

Speaker 1 (01:27:25):
She was a big liberal, big liberal women's and that's
why she's like, I'm not wearing a brad anymore. It's like, yes,
you are.

Speaker 2 (01:27:31):
They should bring that back, you know, sure?

Speaker 3 (01:27:34):
Pretty good?

Speaker 5 (01:27:37):
Yeah, yeah, maybe I'm called Arthur, Paul Sam, You're on
the line, Baltz are they'll never bring back is like
you know Battle of the Network Stars.

Speaker 3 (01:27:48):
I used to love that, but there were only three
networks back then. Yeah it was Fox and now they
tried to bring it back. I want to sell you
a while ago they brought it back. Yeah, they back
like in the late nineties or early two thousands or
something like that. It was like, yeah, look it up, Jenny,
am I ever wrong turns?

Speaker 1 (01:28:10):
I know too. In the early two thousands they were
rerunning the old ones. No, they're on YouTube and look
I heard because you're like, you've got to wonder when
it's like man, Ron Howard's on a television show and
Penny Penny, my sister Penny and all these people, why
are they doing this show?

Speaker 3 (01:28:26):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:28:26):
Please do. The reason why is because they made more
money doing those game shows because they would be big
cash prizes, sure cash prizes, and they weren't making a
ton of money back in the seventies on TV. I
mean they were comfortable, but they weren't like making the
million dollars an episode like they are now. Certainly so. Yeah,
that's why, That's why they all did it. Will go

(01:28:47):
to have the.

Speaker 3 (01:28:48):
NBC Battle of the Network Stars twenty seventeen. Wow, God damn,
a ten episode summer event that pits teams of current
classic TV stars from multiple errors and different genres against
one another in a variety of athletic.

Speaker 1 (01:29:04):
Does say which network it ran?

Speaker 2 (01:29:06):
It?

Speaker 3 (01:29:08):
It was? It was on Uh what do you call it?
Peter Brady was the host, apparently that Mike Greenberg was
a co host. A b C Joe Joe Tested Tour
was another another.

Speaker 1 (01:29:30):
Yeah yeah, boxing.

Speaker 3 (01:29:34):
My buddy Mike, but Denise Richards, Julie Ben's was Byron Wagner,
Kelly Osborne.

Speaker 1 (01:29:43):
Which Wagner was on, Joe Wagon, Charisma Carpenter, Gary.

Speaker 3 (01:29:52):
Are these ronson? Pinchot was on it?

Speaker 1 (01:29:55):
Are these on?

Speaker 3 (01:29:56):
They? Foley? Johnny? How much work do you want me
to do for the thing?

Speaker 2 (01:30:00):
Come?

Speaker 1 (01:30:00):
Well, yeah, I'm sorry, I'm used to.

Speaker 3 (01:30:04):
Vicky was on it. He was the kid with the
big head.

Speaker 1 (01:30:07):
From the Yeah, how much is the headway yeah, Kevin
Kevin So, Joey Lawrence. Of course, Hercules was doing he
needs a job?

Speaker 3 (01:30:17):
What's a Yeah, Lou frig though he was on an
episode Donald.

Speaker 1 (01:30:25):
Don Mills like seventy five? What kind of competition when
she in the Rascal competition?

Speaker 2 (01:30:30):
Mills on the beach?

Speaker 3 (01:30:34):
Jimmy Walker Jimmy Walker?

Speaker 2 (01:30:36):
So yeah, yeah, mm hmm did they do the one?
Was Ray Parker Jr? In it? Jamie?

Speaker 3 (01:30:50):
I don't love the network stars? Uh, let's see reviews.
Cool and funny redo of the series. Yeah, I don't
think so better than I thought. Yeah, I still don't
think so. So it aired, I don't It doesn't say
where it aired.

Speaker 1 (01:31:07):
It aired on ABC. I'm asking if it's streaming on
like Hulu. Hulu has all the old ABC stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:31:15):
The Johnny I love the old ones. Yeah, just watch those.

Speaker 2 (01:31:21):
Gabe Kaplan, he makes a show.

Speaker 1 (01:31:22):
Yeah, it's not streaming anywhere, which is shocking. I gotta
be honest. I don't know about you. Do you guys
watch any of these reboots of the game shows like
match Game or Squares or whatever they saw they I'm like, Oh,
Martin Short is hosting match Game, Okay, I love Martin short,
it is so canned bad jokes, and it's like, no,

(01:31:44):
you gotta do it like the old Gene Rayburn show
or Hollywood Squares where they used to get bombed and
then take the show and then realized, we watch family.

Speaker 2 (01:31:53):
Family Few is the only one I watch.

Speaker 1 (01:31:57):
Steve Harvey, Steve har.

Speaker 3 (01:31:58):
No, what I'm thinking. I'm taking about the Graham Norton Show.
They all get bombed on that show.

Speaker 1 (01:32:02):
They do, and that's and you know, my theory on
that is because all the Americans are in England. Then
I think subconsciously like, well, it's just British.

Speaker 2 (01:32:09):
Keeping on vacation. Yea, our vacation. Yeah, when you're on vacation,
you're different.

Speaker 1 (01:32:15):
This one.

Speaker 2 (01:32:16):
Mm hmm. You gotta lose.

Speaker 1 (01:32:19):
Yes, you're right, Ken Dock. Back in the day, in
the original Battle of Network Stars, Robert Conrad was a
captain of NBC and that that was the infamous uh
fifty yard dash that he did with Gabe Kaplan.

Speaker 3 (01:32:32):
Cheating gave Caplin like beat his ass and he goes, well,
I'm man enough to admit when I when I was wrong.

Speaker 1 (01:32:41):
On her too, But yeah, well that's the that's because
Robert Conrad complained that ABC cheated in the relay race.
So the judge said, Okay, we'll have a one off
with the two of you running against each other and
tell you Sabouts's CBS and he's in his track suit
and he's chained smoking and he's about regard. Oh, this
is completely unfair, just like the others. And it's so

(01:33:03):
it's like, yeah, tell it. Listen while I'm destroying my
lungs at this athletic competition. Smoky during athletic athletics, you.

Speaker 2 (01:33:10):
Know, I could buy a probably do a three foot
race with somebody.

Speaker 1 (01:33:15):
I think my my greatest chance to be reaching for
something across the table.

Speaker 2 (01:33:20):
That's that's getting out of bed to fastest.

Speaker 1 (01:33:27):
I was Francis already. I've had like Ben and Somni
in the last few weeks. And honestly, I slept until
about two hours before this show. Really I off and
on because I'm just I'm like, no, I still feel
time massive vampire hours, like seven seven a m. I
I finally fall asleep.

Speaker 2 (01:33:45):
I just switched again. I went to I went to
a traverse city. This ch.

Speaker 1 (01:33:53):
Happened is that that Cherry City con or whatever it's
called they call it.

Speaker 2 (01:33:58):
I found out that cherries are very popular in Traverse City.
This is It wasn't a convention. It was the Moonbeam
Book Awards, and they had uh the Graphic Novel category.
The Flash Court and Adventures won the silver medal.

Speaker 3 (01:34:14):
Congratulators.

Speaker 2 (01:34:17):
So I drove up there there Francis, because it was
in Michigan.

Speaker 1 (01:34:22):
I understand that's too far for you.

Speaker 2 (01:34:23):
Yeah, I went.

Speaker 1 (01:34:26):
Galaxy canceled, right, Yeah they did.

Speaker 2 (01:34:29):
Yeah that sucks. But the h the the show to
Moonbeam Wars. There were people fell everywhere. People from England
were there, people from all over the country, San Francisco,
in Atlanta, and the people I met were there.

Speaker 1 (01:34:43):
From Look, look Mario, congratulating you guys.

Speaker 2 (01:34:46):
Several from New York. So you know, because it was
in Michigan, several from New York came and but it
was was Katie there. No, I didn't see it. No,
And but when I got there, I was I didn't
know what time my time was supposed to be because

(01:35:07):
I'm on Chicago time. My van says one thing, my
phone says one thing, and when I got to my
room it said three hours something else. So I think
whatever the time change. No one ever switched the clocks.
So I was confused that when I got there and
I've already been awake since like one am, and I
just left my house at like three and made it there,

(01:35:28):
stopped seeing my daughter, and then I kept going straight
and they're lucky.

Speaker 3 (01:35:31):
Can I just interrupt you for a second. You're lucky
in the hotel room that just the clocks were off
because in a couple of hotel rooms where I've stayed,
they set the alarm for like, you know, four in
the morning. Yeah, and then the thing goes off.

Speaker 2 (01:35:42):
And I'm like, oh, yeah, I get I got up
and when I said my alarm, I set it on timer.
So I just all I need eight hours. I put
eight hours sleep, and when I woke up, I didn't
the clock's at like seven o'clock. So I'm like, all right, good.
I could go set up at the show because there
was a books show during the day and then the
awards was at the early evening, so the book show

(01:36:05):
was like ten to two or something. So I got
up and I went downstairs to get coffee, and I'm
down there and I told the girl, Uh, I think
it's dark outside, Like, oh, we're talking to coffee shops,
not open. She said, sir, it's it's four forty five.
Like what She's like, one thing opens till seven. I'm like,

(01:36:26):
what the heck? Like seven o'clock.

Speaker 3 (01:36:28):
You start mumbling to yourself saving time.

Speaker 2 (01:36:31):
I go, what time is it? Like my clock says
and then looking at everything I was living, my life
was wrong. So I had Yeah, So I had to
wait a little while. But by the time I got coffee,
and then I went to the show and set up,
and they gave us some uh some cheddar broccoli soup
to eat for lunch. Man, I was like dying around

(01:36:52):
new and I'm so dying. I'm like falling asleep, like man,
I need to go lay down, like I'm hurting. And
then the show it was still like three hours more
so so then then I have to It was good
though I show it. I sold a bunch of books
and we got the When I got there, they greeted
me with the award, the medal, so I put it
on my neck right away and and everyone at the

(01:37:14):
show was an award winner for the for the show.
It was really cool and uh people were able to
come in and buy the award winning book and they
gave us stickers to put on all the books, and
they gave us a plaque like a certificate or certificate,
and and uh. I walked around the room to meet everybody,
and everyone had the the plaque on their on their

(01:37:35):
table with the books and like, oh, and I didn't
realize what was in my envelope. So I went back
and displayed it. It was really cool. Made a little
video and I saw your.

Speaker 1 (01:37:44):
Photo from the background and everything. You know.

Speaker 2 (01:37:47):
Yeah, it was really cool. And and then the ceremony
was awesome too, because again I don't know what's what
time things are, and they just said, oh, we're gonna
have a ceremony tonight. But I was thinking it was
going to be like seven to midnight or eight to
something like that. And I look. I went to the
lobby and I asked the guy, the concierge, I said,

(01:38:11):
are the Moonbeam Awards here? He says, yes, they sure are,
and he looked it up and he says, they reserved
the room. Reserve the room from three to three to eight.
So three o'clock, so it's like quarter to three now,
and I'm man, I'm exhausted. And by the time my
unloaded and it came in my room, so yeah, Like,
I took a shower real quick, I laid down on
the bed boom, I was out, and I woke up

(01:38:32):
twenty minutes later, and I'm freaking out. I was like,
I don't know. I finally my phone was the real time.
I didn't touch the one room. I don't be confused.
And so I got up at four and I got
dressed and I went down in the room that they
were holding the ceremony and was totally empty. No one's
in there, but I saw the waitresses fixing things up

(01:38:54):
and hanging banners and stuff, and I'm like, okay, so
I got time. So I went to the bar and
got my chicken wings, got my gelob Baltro and just
sat there a little bit. And then when people started
going in, it was about five five thirty, so I
was there for an hour and a half.

Speaker 1 (01:39:07):
The so they reserved the room from three to eight,
but the rewards wasn't until later, right, Yeah it was.

Speaker 2 (01:39:13):
It was the wards were from five to seven. That's
what that said. Finally, I.

Speaker 3 (01:39:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:39:19):
So the weird thing is like all weekend, I didn't
know what time it was, but I knew I had
a beat here around certain times so I hovered every
week and then it was real cool man. They they
had all of our award books on the table and
a speech. Yeah. I got to talk for about three minutes.
Each person gets two to three minutes speech. And it
was cool. They announced the awards, they announced the my

(01:39:42):
name and stuff and the book, and they announced all
the books. Of course, they say here's the gold medalist,
here's silver medalist. There was gold, silver bronze for every category.
And they tell people where they are from. And most
of the speeches they were good man. They were real
touching and personal and a lot of people were crying
a few times. It's very touching. It's like winning that Eisner.

(01:40:04):
It's like you don't know what to do. You just
feel the emotions. Yeah, it's kind of It was kind
of big. It was kind of a big deal. And so, uh,
when we.

Speaker 1 (01:40:12):
Send the award, the like you're you're a bigger maybe yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:40:15):
The big Mabe Award. Yeah, a little bit like that.

Speaker 3 (01:40:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:40:17):
And so so when I went up by really yeah
really yeah, ours was real. Yeah, it manifested something of
its own. And but but I went up and uh uh,
I just told him that I've been doing this forever
and and like I'm been drawing since fifth grade and stuff,
and it told them what I did. And so I
worked for all these people and any all these big companies,

(01:40:40):
and so winning awards are important and I think them
and stuff. And then that little bit, just that little
bit little speech, lets you know, let's everyone know who
you are. And so when I sat down, people started
coming up and asking me stuff. It was really cool.
It was really interesting. So it's kind of like no
one knows you are until you say something, and then

(01:41:01):
they're all freaking out. They're all asking me questions, all
kinds of questions. And and most of the people there
were Indy the publisher, they self publishers or they have
a small publisher. So it was kind of cool and
I liked it a lot. And then after the library.

Speaker 1 (01:41:17):
Award, like, who sponsors this Moonbeam.

Speaker 2 (01:41:19):
It's called Jenkins Group. I think it's called I'm not sure. Yeah,
that guy, yeah, him and his people established his book award. Yeah,
I met all the people who run the company. But
I don't know how it how it does, but it
was it was a big thing they gave you. Yeah,
it was pretty cool, man, And it was real fun

(01:41:43):
and then I strode back the next day and hung
out with Audrey a little bit. Nice, spend the night there,
and then came came back again.

Speaker 1 (01:41:49):
But atom yeah, I got.

Speaker 2 (01:41:52):
I rent the hotel on her block, so I'm staying
right next to her dormouce fancy hotels. I got a
big room, so we stayed in state.

Speaker 1 (01:42:01):
Mario was posting Paul Jenkins. I have no idea why
I love Paul Jenkins. He's a good friend.

Speaker 3 (01:42:06):
Chicken.

Speaker 1 (01:42:08):
Yeah, all right, man, I am I think I was
telling the guys off the air. I am going snow.
I'm really going sew because really, Jenkins, what are we
talking about? Jenkins?

Speaker 2 (01:42:19):
Jenkins? It could have been the Jeffrey Green.

Speaker 3 (01:42:20):
I think for years Johnny.

Speaker 1 (01:42:23):
Put the pipe down son.

Speaker 2 (01:42:26):
So it's cool because like last year I won that
The SIPA award is called Colorado Independent Publisher and I
flew off the Bowlder Colorado to get the award for yogs.
So the cool thing is like two last two years
I wanted to award the last two years and they
were both from paper Cuts, so that's that goes that
goes a long way with them, So it's really fun.

(01:42:47):
Leroy Jenkins, I.

Speaker 1 (01:42:49):
Don't know, le Roy Jenkins. Why do I remember? Really,
Roy Jenkins?

Speaker 2 (01:42:53):
I don't know, but it was really fun. Man.

Speaker 1 (01:42:55):
There's hilarious fake commercials of like the guy who did
the put rub and Barbecue saw its commercial.

Speaker 2 (01:43:02):
Oh yeah, is that fake?

Speaker 1 (01:43:04):
Oh it's as Oh my god, yes it's fake. Good lord,
that's fake.

Speaker 2 (01:43:08):
Who do you?

Speaker 1 (01:43:09):
Who do you go to license a business for that?
All right, so it's foot rubs and barbecue. Yeah, okay,
I thought it was real. No, because I mean it
looks yeah, it looks authentically local TV. You No, you're
like the moin O in a classic just outside Chicago
grocery store, the moin O in the Butcher's. I believe

(01:43:30):
I remember that when they used to sponsored Bob Loose Wrestling. Yeah,
you know that was he was the local promoter. Dick
the Bruiser and the Value Brothers and Bobo Bristill, Yukon
Moose Cholak. These are all seventy Chicago area wrestlers.

Speaker 3 (01:43:46):
Oh oh, wrestlers, I thought we were getting.

Speaker 2 (01:43:49):
You didn't have to be muscular, you just had to
be big exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:43:53):
I will see you at the Colors seat them Saturday night.

Speaker 2 (01:43:56):
Are all right?

Speaker 1 (01:43:58):
The Broer with the Big Challenge. Yeah, you know Copic,
my dear departed friend, Chef Kpiic. He used to do
the local uh w w F cards at the road
with the then Rosemunt Horizon, now the All State Arena,
and they offered him several times over the years, offers
to be the national uh broadcaster, you know, sports guy,

(01:44:22):
sports and cool, and he turned it down. He's like, no,
if I do that, then I'm not legitimate anymore. I can't.
I haven't got a job legit. Yeah, exactly. It's like
I said, God bless you. You're not that far with
the cartoon that they want you to be. All Right,
he was great. He was He was what you saw
was what you got. He was anchorman in real life.

(01:44:43):
That's the only way to describe him, frank, like he
was Rob Burgundy in real life. He really was.

Speaker 2 (01:44:48):
Man. We when I got home yesterday, so I'm so exhausted,
but I'm wired because I'm drinking all this red bull
and I made it through two blizzards, almost died a
few times. And uh, I got home and I'm so
starving and wired. And Gordy was home, just Gordy sitting
at the kitch the table when I got in and
I said, uh, hey, man, you're hungry, won't go eat

(01:45:08):
because I was starving. Yeah, So we got dressed and
we went to Buffalo Wow Wings near the house and
walked into the you know that little hallway before you
go through. It smelled so bad, like like butthhole ass.

Speaker 3 (01:45:27):
I think Buffalo Wild Winds smells like every time.

Speaker 2 (01:45:29):
I know. This is like, I gotta be honest.

Speaker 1 (01:45:32):
It's been a while, but I like Buffalo Wowings normally.

Speaker 3 (01:45:35):
But I.

Speaker 2 (01:45:37):
Craved it so much so we we opened. Man, it
was like we went we walked through the honed like
the moment you walk in, you're like, all right, it
got a little better, but now it's still smelled. I
don't know if the seet bitch was in my nostrils,
probably had some sort of my old factory glands. I
don't know what it was in. So we walked through.

Speaker 1 (01:45:59):
The restaurant says old factory. It's like it's an old manufacturing.
It's an old factory on the south side of the city,
old factory.

Speaker 2 (01:46:07):
So they're walking in and you know, like I like
sitting in the bar area because you get the big
stools on the TVs and you say, no, no, listen
to it, I'm saying. And me and my son were
walking like stink stink stinks were walking. We walked past
the bathroom and it smelled great, like oh, like all
of a sudden, like wait, they must have just cleaned

(01:46:29):
the bathrooms because like, oh, it smells fresh. And then
five feet past the bathroom, we went to the bar
area and it smelled more and we're like looking and
they see the two ladies that we're the only ones
in the place. There's like another couple maybe, but we're
the only ones in the place. And the ladies are
looking at us and waiting for us to sit down,
and my son's like, still stinks, still stinks.

Speaker 1 (01:46:49):
We walked.

Speaker 2 (01:46:50):
We found a table way deep in the corner like
that is still stinks. And I looked at the ladies.
Why it smells like like buttle in here and there,
and they said, it's not us, it's outside. There was
a gas link like but it happened, but it became
you it stinks. And then we went outside and I
searched for another one, and we drove another another. No,

(01:47:14):
we went I want a buffalo to find another one,
like ten minutes away because there's a bunch by me.
So we find another one, and it was actually our
third one because the second one we found was.

Speaker 3 (01:47:32):
What happened at the second one.

Speaker 2 (01:47:33):
Yeah, we drove to another one or like there it is,
let's go. And it was one of those takeout ones.

Speaker 3 (01:47:39):
Come on the story, come on, and I'm like I
started with that one and then.

Speaker 2 (01:47:47):
But that that one smelled too. That one smelling, I
don't know. We had to find another one, but we
were good at that third a.

Speaker 1 (01:47:54):
Weird generic carry out hub that like repor sense a
bunch of like Panera and maybe pull Wild Wings and stuff,
but it's this like weird place that like you go
and there's no kitchen or anything like that. It's lockers
and it's like it's an uber that like Uber food
or whatever uber eats that you have to drive to

(01:48:17):
it pick up your food because I the para near
me sucked and I'm like, oh, there's another para near me,
so I'm gonna go to the other one. See how
that is. And it was this weird hub and like
I said, it represented like ten different fast food restaurants
and the food tasted like Panera food, but they don't
make it there. It is so weird.

Speaker 2 (01:48:34):
It's so weird weird, and they're like, oh, you want
a cup of coffee, that'll be seventeen dollars please.

Speaker 1 (01:48:39):
It just wasn't like, no, you had to pre order everything,
so if you didn't pre order it, they didn't have it.
And I don't think they offered drinks. I think it
was just the food.

Speaker 2 (01:48:46):
It's Panera. You could have soup and sandwich costs you sixty.

Speaker 1 (01:48:48):
Dollars, oh Panera. Yeah that And also since COVID, nobody
wants to work in fast food anymore. Yea, and no,
I don't I And also yeah, the portions have gotten smaller,
the prices have gotten bigger.

Speaker 2 (01:49:01):
And the speaking of speaking of Panera, like I like
to go out to coffee shops or something to write,
to get a cup of coffee and cheese something, and
then I bring my work. I do my stories and
my Skeedu book there and normally and I even write
at the airport. No one ever says anything to me.

(01:49:22):
I'm writing on the airport and airplanes. I'm writing the
coffee shops and people like, no, your businy leave you alone.
Every single time I've been to Panera because I sit
there in the booth. I get a nice comfort booth.
Someone always bothers me and talks, and it's always the
old people come up and they're like, yeah, older people

(01:49:43):
like senior citizens, retired, and are you doing your homework?
I said, no, man, I'm I'm over fifty years old. No,
I don't. I don't go to school. Look at what's
he's he's doing something. What are you writing?

Speaker 3 (01:49:54):
Like?

Speaker 2 (01:49:54):
Oh my god. So I can never ever get worked
on a panera like man.

Speaker 3 (01:49:59):
And then every time I've been in the panera, I
don't know if i'd feed anybody under fifty there.

Speaker 1 (01:50:04):
Yeah, that's hilarious.

Speaker 2 (01:50:05):
And I always get work pitches like guys like, oh,
I got a front of me in a comic. Oh,
you've been. I'm like, no, man, go we like I
got a good story. I've been. I just got to
write it down, that's all. But I've been working on
this story for twenty years.

Speaker 1 (01:50:18):
I have a great green arrow story. Yeah, they gotta
make green arrow. Yeah, but it's got to be green arrow. Yeah,
but kind of screwed because they won't think yeah but
it's great. Yeah that doesn't matter. They don't want you.

Speaker 2 (01:50:28):
Oh thinks I'll go back to the Starbucks. Nobody bothers
me there. Even their chairs are wooden, you know all that.

Speaker 1 (01:50:34):
Well, you know, the whole concept of Starbucks and and
places like Panero was what they call third base, where
you got, yeah, you gotta work. Yeah no, no, no it's
not it's not dirty, and third base is another hangout,
places that you're willing to spend ten Well, now Starbucks
doesn't want you there that long. They got rid of
all the couches. And I don't know about you guys,

(01:50:57):
but the ones by me, there's like half the outs
that there used to because you know, working on my
Great American screenplayer or my Grand American American novel. Yeah,
there's less places to do that stuff. Then. Yeah, but
I say sorry, all right, thank you. Oh no, B things,
by the way, B Things as always, thank you for
the space royal guy. But in third space is a

(01:51:17):
reference to a Babylon five TV movie, unless unless Howard Shapiro,
the man who created Howard Shapiro, I forget his name, now,
you guy who created Starbucks. Yeah that again, that was
his concept, and I thought it was third base. But
I think you're making fun than saying third space because
of better than Fave, which is a fine thing anyway.
But I just find that interesting that their whole philosophy

(01:51:40):
of how to do business has changed. Because I'll buy
one because I'm like that. I buy one cup of
that the coffee, and it lasts me for more than
an hour. And I sit on my phone and I
screwed around and you know, or I come up with
ideas for the podcast, or I do emails.

Speaker 2 (01:51:54):
Yeah, I do it. I'd love to write at Starbucks,
and I'd last about two hours before I got to
go home and use the bathroom.

Speaker 1 (01:52:01):
I was like, Oh, I trankfully all the Starbucks by
me and surprisingly in the city, but they have they
have digital locks on them.

Speaker 2 (01:52:08):
Oh yeah, but I gotta do it like the good
kind of bathroom break Well, I am not.

Speaker 1 (01:52:13):
I am not ashamed of doing the big kind of
bathroom unless eat it too much and I really want
to explode. But I can handle a normal, good kind
of bathroom at.

Speaker 2 (01:52:26):
My drugs man and drugs dictate.

Speaker 1 (01:52:28):
Yeah, I've had I've had middle aged man issues and
I was really nervous about it and I didn't know
how to bring it up to one of my doctors
who was a very nice young lady and I'm like, hey,
I got a question and she's like, I'm a doctor, mister, such,
everything's fine. And I'm like, I'm not completing the deal
like I used to, and she's like, yeah, that's the medication.
I'm like, okay, glad, I'm so sorry. I really apologize.

(01:52:50):
I don't want to. You know, it's like, mister suckers,
I'm a medical professional. That is is a common question
for people your age. She goes to lunch, you shouldn't
say about it, but literally, that is kind of about
what I did say it because I'm like, metaphorically, I
can't completely do that. She's like, I know what you're
talking about. I'm like, of course you do. I could
be sitting at the embarrassed, but I had it. I

(01:53:13):
had a disclose. I'm like, listen, I gotta some medication.
Don't feel what's what's your up to medication? And I'm
almost guys, I'm so excited already. You'll appreciate this. Yeah,
my dad beat his numbers. If I can, you will
firmly for a second.

Speaker 3 (01:53:25):
Dad beat us.

Speaker 1 (01:53:26):
They're good, They're really good. I'm not in the remission area.
But I'm I'm I'm in my one.

Speaker 2 (01:53:31):
Season taking control. That's all you can do.

Speaker 1 (01:53:33):
Yes, like those commercials.

Speaker 2 (01:53:36):
Yes, yeah, I don't take drugs when I'm away from
the house because I can't afford to like experience anything weird.
So I just write and I come home and I
get back to training.

Speaker 1 (01:53:47):
Okay, because see, I don't know if those I don't
know if the medicine doesn't make any of those kind
of bathroom issues.

Speaker 2 (01:53:51):
Because I I got it, like if I'm like weekend,
I was like, I'm gonna go right today, I'm gonna
go to the coffee shop and then I sit there
for another two hours, aren't you like you have to
poof first? And she's like what, like yeah, because I
want to go now, but I know like if I go,
I'll be back in ten minutes. So I finished the bathroom,
my her, I gotta go, and because you got to

(01:54:13):
get the most time in. Wow, I could be gone
for fifteen minutes or three out who know, Yeah, yeah,
well hit that out. I don't know if the people.

Speaker 1 (01:54:21):
Want I'm way behind on streaming on it every more
bot your pooh exactly. Well, that's why I'm trying to
get off of it and talk about.

Speaker 2 (01:54:31):
We could talk about are you doing your homework? Young man?

Speaker 1 (01:54:35):
Wow?

Speaker 2 (01:54:36):
Uh oh?

Speaker 1 (01:54:38):
I saw and a movie season it's beginning, Oscar contenders.
I saw. I saw Ethan Hawk's new movies called Blue Moon,
like the song. It's about the composer of Blue Moon exactly.
You saw me standing alone. It's Richard Linklatter who made
all those great nineties and early two thousand movies. But

(01:54:59):
Ethan Hawk and and it's you know, Rogers and Hammerstein,
of course, the great musical duos order it's about This
is about the composer chef. This is about the composer
before Hammerstein that Rogers cut flabor with Lorentz Heart and
Lorenz Hard and he they wrote Blue Moan, and they
had a ton of musical hits, and they had a
ton of popular songs and stuff. But he kind of

(01:55:21):
left Heart for Hammerstein because Heart was a big boozer
and stuff and had real, real issues of getting getting
work done. And Ethan Hawk totally uglies himself up. He
looks hideous. He's playing really short, and I think the
other guys are either standing with platform shoes or he's
supposed to be a short supposed to be a real

(01:55:43):
short guy. And it's a real story. This is about
a real story and everything. And it takes place the
night that Oklahoma debuts and everyone is toasting Rogers and
Hammerstein how great they are, and poor little Lorenz Heart
is like off in the in the in the aisle.
I think, at the very least he'll get a nomination
for About Stacktor for this, because don't you think when
they ugly themselves up, that's when like the nomination.

Speaker 2 (01:56:04):
Yeah, that's what Sidney Sweeney thought.

Speaker 6 (01:56:07):
And then I guess, yes, yes, I got the eye
and start I knew, I knew Christy martin the box
that that story is based on, and it is a
really tragic story.

Speaker 1 (01:56:18):
Yeah, I know, but I'm sorry. I'm sure that the
general public. So I don't want to see Sidney Sweeney
be ugly and till this really impressing. I want her
in a bathing suit. Well, it's like when Charlie's Starn
did Monster. Yeah you know, and she she won the.

Speaker 3 (01:56:33):
Oscar the Oscar.

Speaker 1 (01:56:34):
Yeah, so no, that's I'm sure that's the thinking. And
also I don't think Christy or I don't think. I
don't know. I haven't seen the movies. Actually, I should
really see the reviews and then possibly see that.

Speaker 2 (01:56:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:56:46):
I don't think she's that great of an actress that
she can pull it off, but maybe that's right.

Speaker 2 (01:56:50):
And then it's where we get we get something similar
A Million Dollar Baby, which is kind of similar. Yeah, yeah,
female boxer, but.

Speaker 1 (01:57:01):
But she wants to right, and but she's at actress.

Speaker 2 (01:57:04):
Yeah, Christie, there's a documentary of her. I think somewhere
I saw it, and that was that's what you need.
Just watch the documentary. Yeah, and she's popular enough for
people to go see it. I don't know, christ the boxer. Oh,
I just don't know, like general audience, like.

Speaker 1 (01:57:24):
Yeah, I mean, let's be honest, man, again, I love
the sport, but boxing is not a big deal in
the United States. It hasn't been since the Tyson.

Speaker 2 (01:57:31):
Era, which if it was a movie about Ron and Rousey,
it would probably be more popular, you know what I mean, Like.

Speaker 1 (01:57:38):
Movie movie critic Chicago Extraordinary movie critic David Finally, point
is there's a Netflix documentary.

Speaker 2 (01:57:43):
Could see David, Yeah, he saw that.

Speaker 3 (01:57:45):
But no, my.

Speaker 1 (01:57:47):
Friend, my friend Ron and Borgeo is a great Boston
Globe sports writer co wrote, uh, Christy Martin's autobiography and everything.

Speaker 2 (01:57:55):
Oh cool, Yeah, it's.

Speaker 1 (01:57:56):
A great No, it's it's a tragic none of us knew.
Uh her she was married to a guy and he
was physically abusive and yeah, yeah, yeah, it's ship. No,
it's lousy.

Speaker 2 (01:58:08):
Yeah, but yeah I saw.

Speaker 1 (01:58:09):
I saw two of her big fights in Vegas back in.

Speaker 2 (01:58:12):
The day, because I'm curious of the movie, the Sweeney movie,
because i like boxing, I like the story. Christy was
a great les bombed. I don't think anybody cares.

Speaker 1 (01:58:20):
And it is the first weekend. Well yeah, in general,
already nobody it's got to be Demon Hunters or Marvel
movie or you or Star Wars. Otherwise, uh, they'll wait
for camp. Even Spinal Tap two, which I saw in
the theater and it's good.

Speaker 2 (01:58:41):
Yeah, good enough. Well people, people have a better screen
in her house. And you need absolutely a big like
fast and furious to be and.

Speaker 1 (01:58:50):
Only have to do is tell them the next to the
guy next to you to shut up, because it's probably
somebody in your family rather than a bunch of strangers
on their phones. They can't shut up.

Speaker 2 (01:58:57):
That's true. Heck turn off as well.

Speaker 1 (01:59:00):
Saw the Christy Martin movie. He says, Swinging was fine,
but it's worth seeing for Ben Foster, who plays your
scumbag manager husband.

Speaker 2 (01:59:08):
Interesting.

Speaker 1 (01:59:10):
All right, good to hear, Folly. Maybe I will make
time to go see it this week or whatever in
the afternoon.

Speaker 2 (01:59:15):
Oh, I got another pick. You know that movie. I
don't know the guy's name, but he was in that
new running Man movie.

Speaker 1 (01:59:21):
And when uh, yes, he's in the Swinging movie, plays
the main guy that's Glenn.

Speaker 2 (01:59:30):
Yeah, he's my new pick for Indiana Jones.

Speaker 3 (01:59:33):
I think you'll be able to see, uh how good
he is because Running Man is coming out. Uh and
he starts the new running Man.

Speaker 1 (01:59:43):
That's what he was saying.

Speaker 3 (01:59:43):
I saw First Fall on Arnold already. Yeah, but this
is this is a right one, so it should I'm interested.
I wouldn't be interested in the sequel, honestly, but Edgar
Wright kind of interests me.

Speaker 2 (01:59:56):
So is it a redo or a sequel?

Speaker 3 (01:59:58):
It's it's kind of like a you do uh and
and it's more closely based on the.

Speaker 1 (02:00:06):
Doesn't want anyone else to play Indy.

Speaker 2 (02:00:07):
They should do.

Speaker 1 (02:00:08):
But we can't evol think that eventually we will get
a new Indiana Jones.

Speaker 2 (02:00:12):
Yeah we will, and Harrison's gone.

Speaker 3 (02:00:15):
I think so, because.

Speaker 2 (02:00:18):
Yeah, that's when no one's good, Like he says, no
one could play it but him. But once he's gone,
and the.

Speaker 3 (02:00:24):
You know is paramount, does Disney on it now?

Speaker 2 (02:00:27):
I think Disney has it now because.

Speaker 3 (02:00:30):
So so guess what they'll they'll they'll do it.

Speaker 2 (02:00:33):
That's something they'll do it. But it has to be
where Harrison's gone, Lucas is gone, Spielberg's left, probably.

Speaker 1 (02:00:41):
Think though, but you know, I don't either, given that
what's his face made destiny.

Speaker 2 (02:00:46):
I think Harrison should do one more film. One more
film is Indian like like no, like he did with
that Indiana Jones chronicles up in the beginning and and
introduces it and then hands it off in a flashback
with the new guy and here's here's my here's my

(02:01:08):
adventures when I was in Egypt, and then you show
the new guy and then don't go back to it.
Maybe maybe do a voiceover later, but then yeah, the
first and then yeah, you have it in the beginning
at the end, and then then start the next one
with that same actor without Harrison Ford voiceover, and I

(02:01:28):
think that would be acceptable.

Speaker 3 (02:01:30):
I saw something online along the lines of that that
talk that you're doing there about replacing. I saw on
line where where there's writers that are like, you know,
they're they're having trouble coming up with the story for
the new James Bond because you know, he died in
the last film. Oh, like, are you kidding me?

Speaker 1 (02:01:50):
Break?

Speaker 2 (02:01:51):
You just start over?

Speaker 1 (02:01:52):
Of course you did, It's it's different.

Speaker 3 (02:01:54):
Yeah, Like I don't know, Yeah, I don't understand that.

Speaker 1 (02:01:58):
That is such a BS excuse. And I have no
idea who Amazon has in charge of making the next Bond,
but yeah, give me a break.

Speaker 2 (02:02:07):
There was always rumors that the James Bond Double seven
was a name that given.

Speaker 1 (02:02:12):
A code man. Yeah remember cross gen kiss Kiss b bang.
They did a comment it wasn't called James Bond like
Charlie Battison or something. Was the name of the secret
agent and it was a code name. Absolutely well. Roger Moore,
before he died, proposed like, why don't all all of
us that are old Bonds now, why don't we have
them where the current guy is in trouble and he

(02:02:33):
needs the old guys to which was that appears and
Timothy Dalton and Roger Moore, yes, please, yes.

Speaker 2 (02:02:40):
Just showing up in like cars or something in trouble.

Speaker 1 (02:02:45):
Perhaps I could be as the assistant.

Speaker 3 (02:02:46):
They could They can maybe even still do that because
because the are still around.

Speaker 1 (02:02:51):
Yeah, with Pierson Timothy absolutely even if they.

Speaker 2 (02:02:53):
Just show up the Martiniz and you know.

Speaker 1 (02:02:57):
Well done, old man, old bean here you are like that.

Speaker 3 (02:03:01):
That would be my version of writing the New Bond
because if Daniel Craig is dead, right that James Bond
is dead, bring back Pierce Brosnan and Timothy Dalton and
and you know do that? Do that? The idea with
the one so.

Speaker 1 (02:03:16):
Rudy wants a short round Disney show.

Speaker 2 (02:03:20):
Yeah, I really wish they put Remember when they went
for ice cream at the end of that last Indiana
Jones movie. It would have been so cool if they
went to Short rounds ice cream and you see him
turn around with their eyes.

Speaker 1 (02:03:32):
You have Shorty be in charge of an ice cream partner.

Speaker 2 (02:03:36):
Yeah, it would have closed off his story. Nuts. Yeah
you want nuts, I help you.

Speaker 1 (02:03:41):
Hey, solo, I would hope for bigger and better for
short run.

Speaker 2 (02:03:46):
I want to be Indiana Jones.

Speaker 1 (02:03:48):
Well that's gonna say. I want I like Artie's idea
better that they run into each other and he's like
living his life.

Speaker 2 (02:03:53):
Like an Jones Shorty you know, yeah, he turns on
him around he's wearing a coat and a hat. That man. Yeah,
that would that would have been great. But I think
they made the movie before short Round won all those
Oscar Awards.

Speaker 1 (02:04:07):
Well yeah, and also before he won those Oscar wards,
he was at that d twenty three with Harrison.

Speaker 2 (02:04:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:04:12):
I took that fantastic photo of them.

Speaker 3 (02:04:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:04:14):
Yeah, And it's still good because you know, Harrison Ford
is such a well at least his public persona such yeah, budge.
For him to get that warm with with Key was
really cool.

Speaker 2 (02:04:23):
Yeah, plus Key is he Harris Price still looks at
him as a kid, like senior nep you're growing up.
He's still and he said, I can't believe you got married.
You're still a kid, you know that kind of thing.
Forty Yeah, Shorty, doctor Jones hilarious. Yeah, that would have
been cool.

Speaker 1 (02:04:41):
But Polly Polly says, our our senior citizen Bond thing
old man man. Absolutely, yeah, I don't know why.

Speaker 2 (02:04:47):
I don't know why he's Is this true?

Speaker 1 (02:04:50):
Marius says, I'm sorry that he says the Dune director
is doing Bond after Doom that's true.

Speaker 3 (02:04:56):
That's what I heard.

Speaker 1 (02:04:57):
Oh interesting, that's what I heard at.

Speaker 2 (02:05:00):
My buddy Weasel's house. He he had, he has a
good start. He had a big screen TV brand new
Team is beautiful and uh four K and all those sure,
and all he did was take a stack of Bond
Blu rays and just played the opening scene of all
the movies. Because because I got another one? Who put

(02:05:23):
that on? Who's like, man, that was pretty cool.

Speaker 1 (02:05:25):
There's I think there's a YouTube super cut of Maybe
not because that would be really long. But I love
all the pre credit things, even.

Speaker 2 (02:05:34):
Bad movies have you just like to make a lady
for them.

Speaker 1 (02:05:37):
No, I'm not talking about the title scene with Maurice
Binder or whatever his name was that did all those
title sequences. A lot of nipples in that stuff, the
good ones, uh, the no, the I'm talking about like
the little the little sequence where like you know, and
started with Goldfinger. Yeah, you know, the little the little
ten minute action thing before you get to the credit.

Speaker 2 (02:05:57):
Yeah, that's what we watched. We watched that.

Speaker 1 (02:06:00):
I figured, yeah, and there good, Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 2 (02:06:04):
Put the next one on. That's Jones does that too?
A little bit?

Speaker 1 (02:06:07):
Absolutely, I forgot that remember ah had and Take on Me? Yeah,
they did. They did one of the Bond songs. They
did the Living Live, Living Daylights.

Speaker 3 (02:06:16):
My favorite AHA moment is from Family Guy when Chris
gets pulled Trader in the video and he does the
whole video and then he comes out and his moms like, Chris,
where were you? And he's like, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (02:06:29):
That is great? That is it? That?

Speaker 2 (02:06:31):
That?

Speaker 1 (02:06:31):
And do you remember there was a uh what were
they call Iron the Scott Alan Parson's project. There was
a song they did called Don't Answer Me. It looks
like a comic book. The video looks like a comic book.
And I remember Hide McDonald and I talking about that
nice one time. But yeah, it's like look up that
video everybody and you'll you'll much like in a different

(02:06:54):
way than Aha, it's more just static comic panels rather
than the animation.

Speaker 2 (02:07:00):
Isn't it isn't I in the Sky? Isn't that the
Bulls song?

Speaker 3 (02:07:05):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (02:07:05):
That is right the interest.

Speaker 1 (02:07:06):
Yeah, it's the intro to the Plastic Jordan's Bulls teams
and come into the song that is played right before
Eye in the Sky. Yeah, it rolls right into this
guy don't Yeah you know what I have when they
sing that song, and you.

Speaker 2 (02:07:25):
Know what I've been doing. But I do the long trip.
When I got to do long trips like dry four
or five hours. Yea, I go to the I go
to the Goodwills and and thrift stores and stuff, huh,
and go to the CD section and I get a
whole bunch of CDs for a dollar. Yeah I got.
I got Tiffy that. I know. You could plug in

(02:07:47):
your hawks toward and but I need the GPS all
the time, so I don't really mess with that. But
I've been I've been listening to the CDs, and I
just go and buy a whole bunch.

Speaker 3 (02:07:58):
And you can play both of the same time.

Speaker 2 (02:08:00):
Problem I was gonna say, or I need you I
need that cord though they.

Speaker 1 (02:08:04):
Yeah, that's what I was gonna say, because that's what
I do is I listen to podcasts. I have. I
have an old car. It depends on yeah and yeah,
I have a USB port and I plug in my
phone and I just listened to podcasts.

Speaker 2 (02:08:15):
I got to get the cord because I had to.
The kids keep taking them, and Audrey now know they
take them, and I don't have no used to be
in my car, and they're.

Speaker 1 (02:08:23):
Going they need them for their you know, they need yeah,
for their devices.

Speaker 2 (02:08:27):
So I I like going to these uh fighting stuff.
You never know what you can find. Sometimes you find
a whole bunch of good stuff because somebody just dropped
them off. But other times you got to look for uh,
you know, big band music or just get weird stuff.
But but even when I'm I'm walking out like a
whole stack for like twelve dollars, my wife's like, what

(02:08:48):
do you buy? Don't you have that to get people.

Speaker 3 (02:08:51):
That you get people that you cross in the parking
lot that are like, hey, welcome to nineteen eighty five.

Speaker 2 (02:08:55):
Yeah, don't you have spot Tiffy where you can just listen, like, yeah,
these are for the in for the car.

Speaker 1 (02:09:01):
Rudy wants a Tom Cruise. Daniel Craig arren Egerton expendable
style spy movie. You know, I wouldn't want to see
them all cross.

Speaker 2 (02:09:09):
I'm never gonna watch it.

Speaker 1 (02:09:10):
Yeah, I respectfully, Rudy, I'll pass.

Speaker 2 (02:09:13):
That's some of those guys can make good. Indiana Joneses, Yeah, I.

Speaker 1 (02:09:17):
Think probably good. Did The King British Indy and the Kingsman.

Speaker 3 (02:09:24):
I liked a lot the first one.

Speaker 1 (02:09:25):
I didn't like the second one.

Speaker 2 (02:09:27):
Actually, yeah, do you remember?

Speaker 1 (02:09:29):
But it's okay for a sequel.

Speaker 2 (02:09:31):
You know that show, the movie Nicholas Cage, the which
one National Treasures?

Speaker 3 (02:09:37):
Oh? Sure?

Speaker 2 (02:09:38):
You know what like because it's such it feels like
such an Indiana Jones absolutely, because he goes he was
on a search, he has a sidekick, he has a girl,
and he has dad in it.

Speaker 1 (02:09:49):
And all the and all the ancient hist well not
ancient but US history is like and.

Speaker 3 (02:09:53):
In the very first one, Seene Bean is the star.

Speaker 2 (02:09:57):
Yeah, he's the bad guy, right because I always thought,
I said, man, it has to be a rejected Indiana
Jones script will have to be.

Speaker 1 (02:10:05):
I remember going to the movies and they had a
weird little box set up and it was a woman
with a clipboard and she's like, would you like to
see a movie that's in development and we want to
know if you if you go see it. I'm like sure,
And it was a trailer for National Treasure.

Speaker 2 (02:10:21):
Oh cool, and.

Speaker 1 (02:10:22):
They're like what did you think. I'm like, I like it.
Do you like Nicholas Catch?

Speaker 3 (02:10:25):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (02:10:25):
And I'm like, yeah, sorry, guess what I'm like, I'm
going to make your life really boring? That because I
liked all of it?

Speaker 3 (02:10:31):
Sure is it that? Uh Jerry Bruckheimer. So it's definitely
a rip off. It's not.

Speaker 1 (02:10:35):
Oh yeah, exactly, I believe. I believe it is. I'm
gonna why yes, Frank, of course, because you're always right.

Speaker 2 (02:10:40):
Yeah, because I was. I've been meeting, because I've been
meeting with Michael Yuslin. I have my my annual launch
at San Diego, and we always talk about all kinds
of things. And I found out that he produced those
National Treasures movies and I asked them. I said, I
go cool, I got a question. It's like when I

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met that guy and asked him if he went to
Columbia College when I met ted actor, and I told him, yeah, di'naphrio.
I got a question for fifteen years that's been on
my mind. But I told Yuzlin the same thing. I
got a question ever since this movie came out. And
I said, I said, was that I rejected Indiana Jones script?

(02:11:23):
And he went, oh interesting, and he started laughing. He went, no,
it wasn't. It was an original idea, like oh wow,
And I asked him and so, no, that wasn't Indiana Jones.
But he did tell me all about the next Superman
movie and the next Batman movie, and he told me
so much that I'm never going to tell anybody what

(02:11:46):
he told me about those because I was mad after
he told me, I'm like, oh, why did you tell
me that?

Speaker 1 (02:11:51):
Oh, that's yeah, I understand, that's yeah. I got a
lot of early information on a lot of the Marvel
movies when the guys who were all part of the
movie crew, and that's like, stop doing that.

Speaker 2 (02:12:00):
Yeah, I told he doesn't want to know who the
bad guy is or like no, and then he tells
me any like, oh what.

Speaker 1 (02:12:06):
Hey, Mario, I had no idea because it didn't look
like this guy's art. But he says, Mike Kaluda did
the artwork for that Alan Parsons don't answering video. So
that's another reason why to go back and watch it.
I never would have guessed that. I never would have
guessed it.

Speaker 2 (02:12:21):
My sister Kaluda.

Speaker 1 (02:12:23):
I love Mike his Shadow, Oh my god. Like it
was only like eleven or twelve issues, but man, he
was great, great artist, and he did that Marvel graphic
novel of the Shadow.

Speaker 2 (02:12:33):
I think everyone should have a Koaluda, Mike Kluta, your kluta.

Speaker 1 (02:12:36):
Big fan mana your Cua, not to be confused with
Kalula fine mixer for Irish coffee, for example.

Speaker 2 (02:12:46):
Oh yeah, it's good stuff.

Speaker 1 (02:12:47):
Boy, I'd like to all right, you know what could
be done if you want. It's been it's been more than.

Speaker 2 (02:12:52):
Two hours if starting to get.

Speaker 1 (02:12:54):
To Yeah, I figured exactly, So all right, there you go,
all right? Oh, Rudy. Rudy says National Treasure three is
in development, really, and that says there's a new Nick
Cage movie where Nick Cage plays Jesus.

Speaker 2 (02:13:11):
Is he?

Speaker 1 (02:13:12):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (02:13:12):
About time man?

Speaker 1 (02:13:13):
Lex Christ him?

Speaker 3 (02:13:17):
Yeah, the perfect casting for Lex Christ.

Speaker 7 (02:13:20):
I think I want to bless you father's son. They
don't know what they do. God get me, dumb old
Peter Peter, I mean John Peter George.

Speaker 2 (02:13:34):
Which we don't have, ringo Peter. I'm Paul, sir. That's right.

Speaker 1 (02:13:42):
Paul says, No, he's not playing Jesus. He plays Joseph.

Speaker 2 (02:13:46):
He plays Joseph. Joseph.

Speaker 3 (02:13:48):
Man, come on a man.

Speaker 1 (02:13:49):
God, God's having his way with your wife, dude. Oh yeah,
he is last feed for two seconds. Absolutely.

Speaker 2 (02:13:57):
Man, that's got a theory. People.

Speaker 1 (02:14:00):
How come people don't have an issue with that or
further that, how come poor Joseph is not referred to
as like being by.

Speaker 3 (02:14:08):
You're gonna have canceled and we're not.

Speaker 1 (02:14:10):
Gonna h every god fearing person right now.

Speaker 2 (02:14:14):
That's it, you, guys, I got I got the joke
or or Joseph and Mary and Maury Pulvich to get
the DNA test and you're not the father? What I told?
Try telling you that. Yeah, I made the joke. I
put it out every curs I think.

Speaker 1 (02:14:32):
I think I see like somebody do a parody of
that and be like Joseph.

Speaker 2 (02:14:36):
I got a lex Christ strip I'm going to release
this year. I I chickened out the last few years
because like, I'm gonna do it this year because it
has swearing. It only works if he swears and he
says the BS word. Well that's some BS, you know,
that's the punch line. But I'm going to do it.
And my mom sees that strip all the time where
Joseph You're not the father, and she went, I guess

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you and your friends thinks that's real funny. Don't you
like it is funny?

Speaker 3 (02:15:03):
Mom? Yeah, tell her, yes, we do.

Speaker 2 (02:15:06):
And I said, I told my mom to when did
they stop calling her Virgin Mary? When she's like, don't
don't soun right, I said, because Jesus had brothers and sisters.

Speaker 1 (02:15:17):
Had Something's greatest disappointed in you are.

Speaker 3 (02:15:22):
When I was a kid at at Easter one year,
they my family served rabbit and I'm like, isn't that sacrilegious?
And I got a smack for that.

Speaker 2 (02:15:30):
So yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:15:32):
In the movie, tells Us is called the carpenters, they
would exactly, you wanted Jesus to go into the business
with them, and come on, stop hanging out with this
god guy. What's with your twelve friends?

Speaker 2 (02:15:45):
Brother?

Speaker 3 (02:15:45):
Why it's gonna be the declaration of independence?

Speaker 1 (02:15:50):
When they just keep that Judas kid out of the house.

Speaker 2 (02:15:52):
And Jesus say when he stubs his toe? You know
and your question already?

Speaker 1 (02:15:58):
You should give that joke to skoke. Does Jesus say
what he says?

Speaker 2 (02:16:01):
And what about when Joseph gets it he's cutting wood,
he gets a spot? What goo get your brother? What? Dan?
I got another.

Speaker 3 (02:16:07):
Splinter complaining about Judas Haskell. I don't like that Haskell kid.
Get him out of the house exactly. Hello, Hello, mister
and missus Joseph and Mary.

Speaker 1 (02:16:17):
Wow, it's here. I'm here to see young Young Jesus today.

Speaker 3 (02:16:20):
Hello, mister missus Christ.

Speaker 1 (02:16:21):
Yeah, like Christ, exactly Christ.

Speaker 2 (02:16:26):
He's a carpenter and acrosses made out of wood.

Speaker 1 (02:16:29):
Oh, come on, if it's If it agrees with your schedule,
I'd like to take Young Jesus out for for a
little late night dinner with.

Speaker 3 (02:16:37):
I like that. I yelled at you about five minutes
ago about not talking about this, and here.

Speaker 1 (02:16:41):
We are talking about exactly. That's good, We're exactly all
right nice, all right, there you go. That's a good
way to end. We put.

Speaker 3 (02:16:53):
We'll be back here next week, you know.

Speaker 1 (02:16:55):
Yeah, for good stories.

Speaker 2 (02:16:56):
Absolutely really, this would likely.

Speaker 1 (02:17:00):
Not only our Thanksgiving episode, but even maybe our Christmas episode,
depending on our schedules. Let's switch everybody a very nice
holiday season. Hopefully we will. But until next time, everybody,
stay safe, stay happy, stay healthy.

Speaker 2 (02:17:15):
You guys are also okay.

Speaker 3 (02:17:16):
Bye bye, m m m m h m hm m
hm

Speaker 6 (02:17:37):
Hmmmmm

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