March 23, 2025 • 59 mins
We welcome a man known as the 'Wizard of Wellness', Dr. Glen Swartwout to episode #199 of World Awakenings: The Fast Track to Enlightenment! Dr. Glen is an eye specialist who for over 40 years has been helping people reverse blindness and other so-called irreversible health conditions. His work is featured in the book, “Alternative Medicine: The Definitive Guide”, and he co-authored “Natural Eye Care: An Encyclopedia”. He describes himself as a trailblazer who has brought hope and healing to countless individuals. Dr. Glen has become a notable figure in the field of natural therapies, with a reputation for pushing the boundaries of conventional medicine. If you are sick and tired of conventional medical treatment with all its nasty side effects, then this chat with Dr. Glen is for you!
Dr. Glen Swartwout has a number of websites he maintains, but the best one is https://glenswartwout.com/ to gain more information about him.
Dr. Glen Swartwout has a number of websites he maintains, but the best one is https://glenswartwout.com/ to gain more information about him.
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
This is World Awakenings, The Fast Track to Enlightenment with
your host, Carl Gruber. World Awakenings is a podcast dedicated
to opening your mind, your heart, and your eyes to
the fact that the world's population is now more than
ever awakening to all things spiritual, metaphysical, and enlightening and
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just how they play an all important role in our
daily life. So join Carl on this enlightening experience as
he interviews metaphysical and spiritual experts to discuss, debate, and
delve deeply into the house and whis of this world
wide awakening.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Hey, my beautiful friends, welcome to episode number one ninety
nine of World Awakenings The Fast Track to Enlightenment.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
I'm your host, Carl Gruber.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Now I invite you to join me as we meet
and speak with some of the world's greatest teachers, experts,
and masters in the areas of spirituality, metaphysics and enlightenment.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
This is what we have done on a.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Regular basis since twenty eighteen, and we continue our mission
to do so here for the one hundred and ninety
ninth time.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
So thank you for joining us.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
And we are honored to welcome Glenn's wort out as
our featured guests on today's show. Not only is he
known by his loyal followers as Doctor Glenn, but also
by the wonderful Moniker.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
The Wizard of Wellness. I love that one.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Doctor Glenn is an eye specialist has been helping people
reverse blindness and other so called irreverse conditions.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
His work is featured in the.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Book Alternative Medicine, The Definitive Guide, and he co authored
Natural Eye Care and Encyclopedia. He describes himself as a
trailblazer who has brought hope.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
And healing to accomplish individuals.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Doctor Glenn has become a notable figure in the field
of natural therapies, with a reputation for pushing the boundaries
of conventional medicine that I can't wait to find out
about utilizing innovative approaches to healing and health. Doctor Glenn
has transformed lives of worldwide and his work continues to
revolutionize the fields of healing and health. He graduated from
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honors in Environmental Earth Sciences and Chemistry from Dartmouth College
and he decided to go in search of natural eye
remedies at the age of twenty five when he was
told he would lose his vision.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
Before he was fifty. So interesting.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Now coming to us from the island paradise of Hawaii, Aloha,
Doctor Glenn will welcome.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
Welcome, Hello, ha, great to be here.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
Oh yeah, I'm excited and I appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
I know it's early in the morning for you, but
we do know, as you told me, you like to
get up.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
Early, and God bless you for that.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
But you know, I'm really anxious to find out more
about these awesome alternative methods and modalities of healing you use.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
But first let's find out.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
What made you to decide to study ophthalmology as a
young man and what happened with your glaucoma diagnosis at
the age of twenty five.
Speaker 4 (03:34):
Well, I grew up in a family my dad was
a leader in the field of behavioral optometry. They just
call it functional optometry back then, so kind of like
functional medicine now. But they work mostly through exercise, through exercising,
not just the eyes and eye muscles, but it's mostly
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exercising the mind and how the mind takes in life
and gets meaning out of our lighted world and guide's
action I hand coordination, things like that. When I was
actually in second grade. I was not a great student,
not having a good time in school. I was a
C student, and my dad put me through a program
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of eye exercises we call vision therapy, and I was
an a student ever since that point. So it made
a huge difference in my own life. Then in high school,
I worked in his office as a vision therapist, as
an assistant in that training room, doing the exercise of
teaching other people. And so I knew that it was
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a field that I could I was considering going into
where I knew I could help people. I was actually
very I was most interested in natural medicine even at
that time, because our medical doctor growing up had spent
thirty years researching nutrition and energy medicine. He actually was
a pioneer in energy medicine, working with Steinmetz, a famous
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physicist at a general electric who's called the Wizard of Schenectady.
So with that, you know, with that heritage like that,
that really fascinated me. And I had the grades to
go to medical school. And in fact that Dartmouth's my
classmates who are going to medical school saying how come
you're going to optometry school. You could get into any
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medical school, you know, with your your grades said, well,
I looked at it, I really considered it. But at
that time, there was no integrative medicine specialty. There was
doctors who are trying to do what we now call
functional medicine or integrative medicine were outcasts. They were suppressed
by the field. And there's still a lot of limitations
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within the field of medicine. You know, we think we
have freedom of speech, for example, but think of all
the things you can't say about health. It's you know,
even if it comes to natural sub sinces you have
you're forced, you have compelled speech on the label to
say this is not intended to treat disease. Well, wait
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a minute, I intend to treat disease with only natural medicine,
with only natural substances, because that's in our genetic history
millions of years to get us here. That's all we had.
That is real medicine. It's it's true healing, not some new,
you know, patented compound that never existed before. Doesn't even
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make sense that that would be healing, and they're not.
They're not healing. It's why we have a country where
we take the most drugs of anybody in the world
and we have the lowest health because of it. We
know that drugs are at least the number three cause
of death in public health studies. Some studies say number two,
or if they look at underlying causes, not the proximal
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immediate cause of death, it comes out number one. Because
so many of the illnesses that we have are chronic illnesses.
When we have an acute symptom, we understand that from
a healing perspective, say from homeopathy going back three hundred years,
that that's a sign that the immune system is active,
that the body's attempting the best it can with the
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resources at hand to heal itself. And if we suppress that,
if we stop the symptom, we're just shoving back in
whatever is trying to come out. We're actually shoving it
in deeper. Give a great example, let's say you have
a runny nose and say, oh, I got to go
work on my computer at work and I'm going to
drip on the keyboard. So I'm going to take antihistamine
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and suppress that immune activity, and well, then we wind
up with a higher risk for cancer, not only in
the sinuses where we're pushing it keeping it in, but
in the brain because it's now moving those toxins deeper
into the body systems. Aspirin there's in the last couple
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of years now finally there's a change in the official
record and recommendations. But most doctors and patients don't know
that yet, that aspirin is not recommended to take every
day for your heart, that sort of thing, because it
increases bleeding disorders, not only ulcers in the stomach, but
blindness from the leading cause of I suppose the irreversible blindness,
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wet macular degeneration of bleeding in the eye. When you
take an aspirin, you're increasing your risk for blindness. And
that's so drugs. You know, there's a whole book, the
PDR Physicians Desk Reference that lists all of the side effects.
What is a side effect. It's a direct toxic effect
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of a toxin that we're using, as we say in medicine,
to manage the symptoms of disease. When we can manage
the symptoms of disease, two ways. We can try to
stop the body's activity that that symptom represents, you know,
a headache, and aspirin. We can stop the headache with
the aspirin but the research shows will have more headaches
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in the future than if we let the headache go
and let the body complete the cleansing of those tissues.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Actually, the idea that alternative and natural healing therapies have
been all of mankind has ever known for all of
history until the last couple centuries when modern medicines just
took over.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
Right.
Speaker 4 (09:22):
Well, if there is a little there is a little
deeper history to far the pharmaceutical industry, if we go
back a couple thousand years, it's called pharmachia, and it's
what is that. It's the use of toxins in magic.
Magic is illusion, So it's the illusion that we're healing
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that symptom by using a toxin to shift the symptoms,
shift the stress to a different part of the body.
It's actually what we call it technically, the modern medicine
using pharmachea is the of modern medicine with toxins. It's
called allopathic medicine. That's the technical term you may have
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heard of that. What does that mean? Alo means different,
Pathic means disease. It means we're adding a different disease
on top of we're not healing. We're not talking about
healing or curing. In modern medicine, we're talking about managing
symptoms by adding a different disease, and that's the drug
is the different disease.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
Well, I find it interesting that you said that, you know,
taking a pill or a medicine is a form of magic,
because as a long time student of a course in miracles,
even a course in miracles states that taking something like
that is magic. We believe in magic in order to
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do that. But it makes sense everything you're saying there.
Speaker 4 (10:50):
And we also know that half of the effect of
taking that magic pill, ask your doctor if it's right
for you. The half of the beneficial effect or the
detrimental effects are our expectation, our anticipation, our mind, our
spirit is speaking to ourselves all the time, and the
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cells are following those directions that guidance of how we
envision our future life. So I always tell people, never
go to a surgeon that you don't like. You know,
even the research on surgery, there's only about four dozen
studies that are controlled studies, and most of them show
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that the real surgery is no better results than the
sham surgery, where like for the heart, they cut open
the chest, but they don't do the heart surgery. Well,
they're severing nerves, so you have some less reduced chest
pain from severing nerves, perhaps from the fake surgery, but
also the anticipation of healing is half of the power
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of healing of anything. The mind and spirit are I
think of it as a hierarchy. At the top of
the control systems of the body, mind and spirit is
the spirit. The mind is actually a function of the spirit,
but the spirit goes far beyond the conscious mind. Every
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cell has its own cellular consciousness. I guess we could
say it's the subconscious effects of regulating the millions and
millions of actions of every cell every second. So the
researchers who look at it say, the conscious mind they
estimate can process about one hundred and twenty bits a second.
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That's not a whole lot. So we're thinking, we're thinking about,
you know, what should I do? How should I heal it?
Should I take that drug? Should I rest? Should I
drink water? Should I go to the health food store
and look at all the remedies and talk to people
there and see maybe what might help those Again, those
two ways with material medicine that we can heal. One
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is to stop the healing process, and we turned acute
symptoms into chronic illness, and that's what we suffer from now,
so many chronic illnesses. The other way is to find
what's missing from nature, whether it's in the realm of
stress of our thinking. You know, how we think affects
the healing process, all the way down to the material
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substance of what we're eating, the environments we're putting ourselves
in five G environments, you know, having a cell phone
turned on and you know, stuffed in the bra or
in the pocket, and how that's stressing the body. We're
exposed to over one quadrillion times more EMF those electromagnetic
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fields that are man made artificial stress fields than we
were just ten years ago when we already had a
lot of the technology that we have today. So there's many,
many factors. And that's how how I think of it
is it's so easy for the mind, that limited thinking
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of the mind, to get focused on one particular cause
or one particular solution, but yet the spirit knows so
much more. The body processes millions of bits of information
every second. So to me, the solution, the real solution
for healing is to begin to learn how to quiet
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the mind and listen, whether it's through feeling, whether it's
through intuition, whether it's through things like muscle testing or dowsing,
and other ways of amplifying that internal innate knowledge of
the body, mind, spirit as a functioning whole. To communicate,
to listen, to communicate and understand the body is always
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healing and it will be doing the best it can
with the resources at hand. And if we can supply
missing resources from na we've removed ourselves so much from nature.
We don't we don't have an herb garden and you know,
picking herbs and drinking herbal tea. We might have our
one favorite or you know, maybe it's maybe it's the
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coffee bean, maybe it's the camellia, you know, Chinese tea,
the tea plant. But we need a wider range of
exposure to the materials, the energies, the thought patterns, the
movement patterns that we have in a natural environment. You know,
imagine with movement, if we're watching a movie, how much
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are our eyes moving. They're looking at the screen constantly.
The movement is all done by the film, the person
with the camera, the the editors, and so our eyes
are just there's a lack of movement. Well, one of
the things that's associated with having decreasing health of the eyes.
It's just lack of movement, say in glaucoma, where we
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lose our peripheral vision. If we're not using it to
guide movement and to be aware of the space around us,
then we're you know, we use it or we lose it.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
Well, so many of the things you just spoke about,
we could do entire shows on but you know, just
going back, so if we take a pill and we
believe it's going to work, which it probably will for
a while anyway, that would explain the placebo effect, right placebo.
I mean, it's been proven that if they give you
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a sugar pill and tell you it's some magic cure,
you generally won't notice an improvement in your condition.
Speaker 4 (16:45):
Yes, and there's a really interesting fact I came across
with that is that the placebo has to be the
right color. Oh really, the pill, the drug. You know,
different types of drugs will use different colors. Well, that
turns out to be as important as is the anticipation,
the thought, the conscious thought, or the actual substance that's
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in the pill. Yeah, it's it's it's it's it's a
deep rabbit hole.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
Wow. Wow.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
One thing I would like to go quickly back to
when when we started.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
When you were you mentioned that when you were.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
In second grade, you were a C student and then
your dad put you through some eye therapy and you
became a great student. So you're the hindrance of of
poor vision kept you from being a good student.
Speaker 4 (17:34):
Not vision in the sense of eyesight of visual acuity.
Although that was beginning. I was beginning to get a
little bit near sighted, So there was an issue with
being able to the dynamics of focusing the eyes near
and far is controlled by a little ring shaped muscle
in the eye. That's a smooth muscle, a kind of
muscle we have in the digestive tract. So when there's stress,
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that whole system, that parasympathetic nerve system shuts down, and
so that can be one way that there's interference with
focusing of attention. So that was an issue. So it's
becoming nearsighted because it was hard for me to focus,
and yet I was having to do you know, our
socially compulsive close work, reading and writing types of things.
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That was a stress for me, but I also had
low energy in my eyes due to mercury. Mercury poisoning
I didn't know at the time, but from amalgam fillings
from dentistry was shutting down the energy function around my
eye area and sinus area, and so one eye would
turn out called exotropia. So I could read the letters
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on the chalkboard, but not necessarily easily after focusing near
being able to look back and forth quickly. The program
he put me through involved my movement, I focusing, spatial awareness,
visual field spatial awareness, visual thinking like visualization, three dimensional
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vision of coordinating, and using the two eyes together as
a team to see things in greater dimensionality. Which it's
not just how we see the world out there, but
if we don't see the world in three dimensions, how
can we think in three dimensions? So vision is we're
conventionally taught to think of it as just sort of
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seeing small letters small print at twenty feet is the
test of visual acuity. You pass the driver's test, But
there's so much more to vision. It's if we look
at how the brain functions. Two thirds of all the
electrical nerve current coming into the brain comes through the
two optic nerves. So vision is our dominant sense. Just
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like for dogs, they smell a whole lot more than
we do. You know, they take a ride in the
car and their noses out the window and they're smelling
the whole neighborhood. What's going on there?
Speaker 2 (20:01):
Wow? So you had a pretty cool dad. He sounded
like a free thinker.
Speaker 4 (20:07):
He was a thought leader in the field, and that
that was an inspiration to me for sure.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
Well, let's go back to when when all of a sudden,
you're twenty five years old and you get a diagnosis
for a glaud cooma, I imagine I put you in shock.
Speaker 3 (20:23):
And so when did you realize once you started.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
Doing these alternative therapies on yourself, when did you realize
that your glaucoma had been healed?
Speaker 4 (20:34):
So when I learned that at twenty five, I was
already very, very interested in bringing natural medicine, natural therapy
into the eye care and eye rehabilitation field. But as
far as what other people were doing, there were very
few who were looking at eye diseases, blinding eye diseases
in relation to that. Although we were working with head
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trauma rehabilitation or working with stroke rehabilitation, but the chronic
degenerative diseases, we're just not in the realm of making
that connection. So I had to research that myself and
bring that together. Where the big breakthrough came for me
was I studied with a naturopath who was the head
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of the Canadian naturopathic School. He showed me with European
biological medicine and German electroacupuncture, looking at the body's energy
field and seeing where is the energy field, where is
there too much energy meaning inflammation, Where is there too
little where there'll be degeneration, And how does that respond
instantaneously when you bring something that's therapeutic into the body field,
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even within a centimeter of the body through a vacuum.
So it's a photonic or light communication between our body
and its energy field, which is really the field of
the spirit goes beyond the body. Our sensory field vision.
When we look at the star, that's literally we're seeing
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our spirit producing that image out there, you know, as
far away as we see it, which is a little
different for one person than another. Where we project that
image and we can measure that, and that measurement centers
on actually a point between the two eyes called the
cyclopean eye in vision science. We don't see it from
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the eyeballs, and we don't see it from the visual cortex,
as most of the PhD brain scientists think, they have
no clue how it gets from the brain to where
we actually see it out in space. But everything we
see is us. You see your own spirit producing that
image in space. But so when working with him, he
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showed me how I was not healthy enough to actually
eliminate mercury and yet had a whole bunch of fillings
where it was leaching into my body off the charts
as far as the electrical interaction's going on there. It
took about three years of doing doing testing my body's
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response to different nutrients and herbs and frequencies, and then
applying those month after month with a changing program, keeping
up with the healing process, to where I was able
to see that all of the indications of glaucoma were gone.
The pressures were down to normal from like thirty down
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to fifteen, no further loss of vision, no changes in
the thirty years, thirty five years since then. In fact,
I don't even wear glasses at age sixty eight, and
I used to have to wear glasses for driving when
I was back then when I was thirty. So yeah,
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it was a combination of all of those different methods.
The final thing that brought my eye pressures down was
actually light therapy called syntonics and optometry that goes way
back before you know licensing and FDA regulations. There were
thousands of eye doctors that used different light frequencies, colors,
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different color filters, and light to heal the eyes and
visual system. And then when drugs came out and licensing
a medicine and the control systems with FDA, they literally
put on the books to make it illegal to ship
the books and instruments across state lines. They went out
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and they burned the books, they destroyed the instruments. It
was only another couple generations later that one a friend
of mine, PhD optometrist at Berkeley, found references to it
in the library there where they didn't get rid of
all the books. And then he was able to track
down one or two doctors in the Midwest and little
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towns where they never got the message, you know, the
message never came through. Oh that doesn't work anymore, can't
do that, and the people in those towns. If somebody
moved into the town from somewhere else and they have
a sinus headache and they complain to the neighbors, they'd say, oh, well,
just go to doctor so and so down the street
and look at the blue green light and that'll take
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care of it and it won't come back.
Speaker 3 (25:17):
Yeah, I'm so glad you are in the show.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
I mean so, I'd say the vast majority of the people,
especially in North America, have no clue about this stuff,
you know, I mean just my daily friends and acquaintances.
Oh my god, there's colds and flus going around. I
got to get a shot for this and that and
take a pill for that, and it's just ongoing.
Speaker 3 (25:40):
But God blessed that there's people like you here one
that I do.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
Anybody who studies medical medicine and all that, can you
tell us about the wide gap between Western medicine and
Oriental medicine. Why the difference and what is the difference the.
Speaker 4 (26:00):
Biggest if we take it out to the context to
see what's what's the biggest difference is kind of like
the difference in vision between peripheral vision and central detailed vision.
Western medicine focuses in on that one thing. They say,
what's the diagnosis. We want to put a Latin name
on it, so you know, we sound like we know
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what we're talking about, and you don't know. We're like
the high priests of medicine speaking our own language. So
we've got a you know, hepatitis, it's itis's inflammation. Hepat
is liver. So it's inflammation and liver is all they're saying.
And it's an opinion. It's not a thing, but the
mind when it hears that you have hepatitis, we create
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a thing. Thoughts are things. We create a field of
energy that we hold onto in our field that has
this meaning of my liver is sick, and it's you know,
has this expected outcome. It's not going to get better,
or you know, it's it's a chronic thing. It could
get work, you could die from it. All these thoughts
are affecting our ability to heal that. And so in
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Oriental medicine, it's not how it is, it's you look
at the whole person. You you you want to see
what's the picture of this whole person. You might have
two people who would have a hepatitis diagnosis. In Western medicine,
who have different patterns of strengths and weaknesses. You know,
one person might have inflammation a lot of other areas,
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the other one might have just in the liver. It
might you know, affecting different systems in different ways. So
that would result in different treatment because you treat the
individual rather than the disease. You know, you don't just
treat an isolated symptom. You look at it in the
context of the whole person. When we when we measure
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the difference between those systems with the electronic measurements on
the acupuncture meridia, we see that the herbal combinations that
acupuncturists come up with by looking at the tongue and
feeling the pulses and considering the whole person are about
eighty five percent of the time they actually produce a
state of coherence, a more balanced energetic state in the
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body where the body is able to heal much more rapidly.
And that's what the point of acupuncture is, to create
that energetic balance in the body, state of coherence. If
we look at Western medicines, it's just the opposite. About
eighty five percent or more of the time, the drug
that's prescribed actually reduces coherence reduces energetic balance in the body,
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even though it may be effective at changing that at
manipulating that isolated symptom, that is the thing that you're
trying to isolate they're trying to change. Best example that
I know of is they did a study on high
blood pressure in England and instead of just asking the
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doctors if the patients were better on their anti hypertensive drugs,
and of course they all agreed, Yeah, the pressures are lower,
he's better. They asked the patient, They asked the patient's
family members, they asked the pastor of that patient's spiritual community,
and guess what, nobody else agreed with the doctor that
the person was better. They all observed the person was
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less well, less energetic, less active, less conscious, you know,
less involved in their life. Their health was decreased. So
we need to, you know, if we're going to use
the tools of Western medicine. There's some wonderful tools there,
especially those that are non invasive, that don't harm the
body and actually follow the first rule of medicine. First,
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do no harm. That should still be the first rule
of medicine, which means, what can we do before we
even consider drugs and surgery, which by definition are going
to do some harm. Even a lot of the dietite
diagnostic techniques do harm. You know, if you're going to
cut into a tumor to diagnose it, so you know
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which chemotherapy to use. Cutting into a tumor is going
to ninety percent of the time spread those cells through
the blood and the length. So that's that's about the
worst thing that you can do. And yet there's German
new medicine. For years and years now they've been showing
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eighty to ninety percent cure of cancer without radiation, chemotherapy
or surgery. So what's the point of that diagnosis if
we can heal it without spreading the disease. If we
look at a study at Harvard, they wondered, well, how
good is our diagnosis? And so they did histology slices
of tissue under a microscope to look at what's the
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actual disease that we see at a cellular level. How
does it match with the diagnosis that we retreating in
our hospital the best hospital, one of the best hospitals
in the country, only one out of three people actually
had the disease that they were being treated for. Ooh right,
So you know, is it any better in your local
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GP's office. Not likely. And some things are easier to
diagnose than others, but that's on average most of the time.
The drug or surgery you're getting maybe for something that's
actually not what you're ultimately suffering from.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
I remember seeing years ago Greg Braden had gone to
China and.
Speaker 3 (31:37):
He did a video and.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
It's probably available somewhere online, and there were three Oriental
Chinese medical practitioners who gathered around a woman who had
a stomach tumor. Well, they had her stomach X ray
or however, they did it on a screen and you
can see it live, and they stood there for ten
(32:00):
or fifteen minutes saying already done, already done, in unison,
as if this tumor was already healed and gone.
Speaker 3 (32:09):
And as they did.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
This, Greg Braden has this video, you could see the
tumor shrink and shrink and shrink and disappear and the
woman was cured. No cutting into the tumor or anything,
which is interesting. You say that when you cut into
tumor it spreads. And then the medical field, you know,
I don't know of anybody who takes a medicine. Well,
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there's probably maybe a few, but most people I talked
to who take some format and medicine say oh yeah,
and the side effects are blah blah blah.
Speaker 3 (32:41):
It seems like everything has a side effect.
Speaker 4 (32:45):
My first office was in Tokyo, Japan when I got
out of school, and one of the things that we're
doing research there and looking at other practitioners, and one
of the practitioners that I got to visit was a
Philippine psychic surgeon surgeon. The boss, the owner of the
company I was sponsored by his wife had a grapefruit
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sized cyst on one ovary and the next day after
the psychic surgery, it was completely gone. So yeah, there's
many many ways that we'll look at the phenomenon that
they call spontaneous remission. There's over three thousand cases in
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the medical literature with cancer. It can be metastatic cancer
throughout the body. In most cases it's gone in three days.
There's always a high fever. Now we can use artificial
fever saunas or localized fever equivalent using infrared to speed
up the healing process. There's always bacterial activity involved, which
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we call infection, but we also call it our microbiome
and it's the most important thing. Before people are diagnosed
with chronic disease, there's always a loss of that health
of the microbiome. So even if it's a monoculture, a
single organism that's proliferating, it means we're giving it the
patriotish the growth conditions to grow. That it's not that
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it's attacking us, it's that we're feeding it. But it's
also producing enzymes that'll break down toxins that are in
a tumor. There was actually research about five hundred years
ago where they took an infection, a pus from an
infection and inoculated tumors with it, and half of the
people were cured by that. The other half died of
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toxemia because it released the toxins that tumors are sequestering
they're holding keeping away from the rest of the body
for the protection of the body. They weren't able to
detoxify that as rapidly as they were released, so they
stopped doing the research. But to me, that's those are
lines of research that are worthy of pursuing. But yet
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there's no there's no money from government or corporations that
really control the government funding or have been to look
into things like spontaneous remission. Why do we call it spontaneous?
We don't want to know the cause because there's no
money in it, right, Aging related, macular degeneration, aging related,
what's the cause? It's aging related, as if there's no cause. No, no, no,
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it's it's diet related for sure. It didn't exist until
we started processing foods in the eighteenth late eighteen hundreds,
and now it's you know, one out of three people
over age seventy five in our culture are losing vision
from it.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
Some amazing, amazing information here, you know. Yeah, I love
that you've been talking about the spiritual aspect of it.
Seems to me that much of what you practice and
believe is a healer intersects perfectly with the universal spiritual
understanding and quantum physics that everything is connected and there's
no sense operation of anything. How does this play into
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what you practice and believe?
Speaker 4 (36:05):
Well, again, my approach is not to think that I'm
smarter than your body. So what I want to I
want to understand you know, your history, your symptoms. Get
that picture like an oriental medicine, to understand the individual,
because that's a unique picture that helps me to think
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about what might work. But then I want to if
I'm going to propose something for healing a certain herb
or herbal combination or nutritional combination, I want to ask
your body if this is right for you. In other words,
to have some measure of resonance, how does the body respond?
Not taking pieces out and measuring the chemistry. There's in
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Oriental medicine, we say there's ten thousand things, and so
you do thousands of dollars a lab tests and you
measure a few dozen things. It doesn't tell you how
those things and all the other ten thousand things are
going to interact with It's something new that you bring
into the system. You have to look at the behavior,
the energy, the field you know that's guided by the spirit,
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that's intelligent, and again it responds instantaneously. So we can
ask lots of questions. There's many ways to do that
with AGA, with from muscle testing to electroacupuncture testing, to
to dowsing to just purely intuitive processes. Some people are clairvoyant,
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clear sentient, clear audience. They can get signals, messages, meaningful
messages through their senses. So that depends on the practitioner,
the individual self healing. But the more that we use
those intuitive, intuition based methods and spirit based methods, the
better they get. You know. It's it's like learning to walk,
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learning to speak, learning to write, learning to communicate with
the subtlety of the spiritual realm, which in we've kind
of grown up in a culture where science has decided
we're going to assume that that's not real. That's not
part of what we're going to consider. If there's a miracle,
that's not in our realm to study with science. But
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if it's we have a science that doesn't understand how
miracles happen what we would call a miracle, like say
the three doctors using their intention and their energy fields
to help heal the field of the patient in real time,
then that's not a complete science. And then we know
again from placebo effect, well that's half of healing. So
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we have a science that considers itself complete that negates
the most important half of reality, which is the top
down intelligent control systems of this divinely created self healing,
self guided system. That's not that's not the way you know,
(38:54):
poking a stick into a living, self organizing, self healing system,
and is not the way to heal it. You want
to work with it, understand it, ask it. What would
you like, Oh, you'd like you know, Oh you want
to stick? You want a name, stick to clean your teeth? Yeah, okay, great.
Speaker 3 (39:12):
Interesting.
Speaker 2 (39:12):
You know, I have read a number of times and
heard that diagnosis in and of itself can actually cause
more of this quote malady that you may be suffering
at that time because our mind is so powerful and believed.
Speaker 3 (39:30):
Well, the doctor said I have this. Well, then as.
Speaker 2 (39:34):
It's snowballs, your mind just keep based on fear. Oh
my god, I've got this, and it actually perpetuates it
and creates.
Speaker 3 (39:42):
This thing that you've been diagnosed with.
Speaker 4 (39:45):
What do we say? What we resist persists? We've all
heard that that phrase. I think, yeah, yeah, it's true.
And why because we create a thing. It's a spiritual
entity that we've created, a thought form. I have this thing,
we're taking ownership of it. We're in ourselves, and now
we're fighting it, which means we're fighting ourselves. If the
disease was actually the cause of the problem, then we'd
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want to remove the disease. But if the disease is
a symptom in itself. A collection of symptoms and signs.
It's an expression, it's an effect, not a cause, and
the causes are usually more subtle. We see what we
see as the disease or the symptom is the expression
of our vital force as attempt to remove the cause,
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maybe the mercury. In my case. Mercury is known as
the great masquerader of the mineral kingdom. It's the most
symptomatic of all the heavy metals. It's known that it
can cause any symptom or the appearance of any disease,
just depending on where it's located in the body, which tissue,
where at a cellular level, and what enzyme pathway. You know,
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it can masquerade as syphilis. Was known that way back
when that was the predominant STD that and guess what
mercury is a treat was the main treatment for syphilis.
There's a similarity which we refer to in homeopathy similar disease.
You take something like mercury, which has a similar resonance
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to syphilis, you dilute it and energize it, potentize it.
It's to cuss it to where it's diluted to a
non toxic level, but it still carries that resonance. I
think of it all as angelic. A mineral is an angel,
a plant is an angel, and a biological system contains
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many different angels. They are hierarchies of angels, as you
know Scripture would describe, there's the angel of the human species,
and then there's the angel of this individual, and there's
the angel of this organ and this compound, because everything
like the physicist who who? Who? Einstein identified as the
(41:59):
next great thinker after him in physics, David Bohm. One
of my favorite sayings of his is all matter is
frozen light.
Speaker 2 (42:08):
Yes, yeah, I've heard this matter is energy equals mc squared.
Speaker 4 (42:13):
We got that from Einstein. The equivalents energy equivalents of
energy and mass. In fact, I did some very interesting
calculations and I'm sure your listeners will appreciate as well
that if we look at the mass energy equivalents and
we ask the question how much how much mass? How
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much energy is involved in the spirit body, the spirit
this consciousness field that we see and hear, everything we
feel inside the body, feel touched on the skin, everything
we hear in our local environment, how we see out
to the galaxies and stars. That's an energy field. That's
an incredible amount of energy. And it's a universal field
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where universal spirits, the spirit body, the ghost in the
machine is local in the body. When we're having what
I call an in body experience, we can have an
outer body or near death experience where the spirit and
the body are now separated. But even when it's in
the body, there's a field that extends beyond the body
about a centimeter. We can see on Curlean photography if
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you take a leaf and you cut it in half
and take a Curlean photo of it, you still see
the whole leaf because the spirit is still there for
the whole leaf. And that's super fluid, super conducting. It has.
It's called non ordinary matter. And if you look at
the two thousand and one Nobel Prize in physics, they
(43:42):
gave a prize for documenting non ordinary matter called a
Bose Einstein condensate well that exists that almost zero degrees
kelvin with no heat energy. It doesn't exist except in
a laboratory. But there's something that's patented in modern alchemy
called ORMs, patented by David Hudson. We call it m
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state minerals or or MISS or white powder gold. There's
every culture has a name for it, but it's the
mineral form, the physical form of the spirit body. But
because it's in this non ordinary state of matter, ghost
like form, we can't measure it with ordinary material with
(44:26):
an ordinary instrument. There's a Russian patented instrumentation where you
take normal instruments to measure minerals, you put them in
a different atmosphere and you burn the minerals for three
minutes instead of fifteen seconds, and then you find out, oh,
the main ones are gold, rhodium, and iridium. In our
spirit body. In the brain it's gold. It's not gold.
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Gold is in the heart and in the whole field.
But in the brain they found rhodium and iridium. And
based on the characteristics of those I is, I'm pretty
confident of it that iridium is the one that allows
us to see, and rhodium is the one that's sensitive
to pressure waves, sound waves versus transverse waves of light, electromagnetism,
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and the gold is the one that allows us to
take all of that in together and get meaning out
of it. And it's centered in the heart. They're all
centered in the heart, but the roodium extends to the
third and fifth chakras. The iridium goes to the sixth
and second chakras, and the gold all the way to
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the first and seventh chakras. We have this concentric field
of these three they called the M three minerals in
modern alchemy. And so in the patent of David Hudson's
work patented in England, the US Patent Office said, you're correct.
All your information is right. You took the metal gold
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and you made it into white powder gold, and you
turned it back to.
Speaker 3 (45:59):
The tallet gold.
Speaker 4 (46:01):
But we can't give you a patent because we already
know that. But we're just not telling anyone. We're using
it for, you know, spaceships and black operations and stuff
we're not going to talk about. Got the British pattern,
you can read it. Five ninths of the gold and
the other atoms is still there as mass the other
four nines where is it? It's non local. Well, that's
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what our sensory fields are. They're non local. When the
mineral that's located in the visual cortex, the iridium, senses
the electromagnetic fields in our visual cortex, it projects that
image into space that allows us to see the moon
and the stars in the sun, and so we can
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look at the equivalence of that four ninths of the mass,
because you know, when they studied brain tissue, they found
that there was five percent of the dry weight of
the brain was rhodium and iridium. That's an awful lot
of material that in an ordinary lab they usually don't
even write it down, but it's ash that didn't burn,
and it's the unknown. If they write it down, they
(47:03):
say unknown, so many percent. So the other piece of
the puzzle is said, well, okay, what's we know how
much mass was turned into energy at Hiroshima. So I
looked that up. Yeah, and came up with the equivalents
based on what we know the five percent in the
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brain for the whole body containing these three minerals, and
then the amount of energy that came out of mass
turned into energy in Hiroshima. So your soul, your spirit
in that field, the part that's the consciousness consciousness field,
so not the part that's still sub substantial and has
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mass that's in the body as the ghost, but the
consciousness of the ghost is equivalent of the energy of
six Hiroshima bombs.
Speaker 3 (47:58):
Wow, what's the difference?
Speaker 4 (48:00):
Are the life consciousness field is a creative energy fieldhirosima
is a destructive energy field. What's the difference. Destructive energy
is extremely limited. It's limited in time. Happens now, doesn't continue,
and it's amount of what it can do is limited
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to destroying what already has created, and so it can
never It's not infinite. It's always limited to what it
can destroy in that moment versus the creat energy of creation.
That power that our soul has we know from centis
the science of touch, that the energy pattern of There's
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one emotion that's totally coherent that never dies, and that's love.
So the power of love is infinite in time, and
our spirit is already infinite in space.
Speaker 2 (49:01):
Well, well, I absolutely love where you're going with us.
I'm blown away by all of these things you've been
telling us. And of course we are talking to the
wizard of wellness, doctor Glenn swart Out, and oh my gosh,
we could do show upon show upon show on this.
Speaker 3 (49:18):
We've got a few minutes left here to talk to
doctor Glenn.
Speaker 2 (49:22):
And you know, many of my viewers and listeners know
that I myself, Carl Gruber, am deeply invested in healing
and that I'm the administrator of a very large Power
of Eight healing group, which is based on the research
and writings of Lynn McTaggart's Power of Eight book. What
are your thoughts on the premise that when eight or
(49:42):
more people come together to focus on healing a person, place,
or thing, miraculous healings take place, Well, you.
Speaker 4 (49:49):
Can call it synergy is a very very very powerful thing.
And by the nature of that synergy, based on the
coheren of say a group of people with the coherent
intention think of it. Here's a good analogy for for
you know, for everybody out there who's not quite there yet.
(50:12):
It's like, okay, you're playing football and you want to
move the ball down the field. That's like the healing goal.
We want to move the ball down the field. We
want that tumor to shrink, we want it to go away.
And if there's just one guy trying to move it,
and and there's maybe the rest of the team members
are are doing other things, they're on their cell phone,
they're you know, they're having lunch, they're taking a break,
(50:35):
having a drink, it's not going to work as well
as if you get if you get the whole team
running the same play, and they're coherent in the sense
that they're they're beyond. There's different stages of developing coherence. Uh.
There would be first of all, yeah, they they're they're
on the same team, they've practiced together, and they're running
(50:58):
the same play. And then there's a level of what
athletes would call in the flow, where it's no longer
I'm doing this, it's happening. You're you're in the flow
of it. It's it's playing you. But as a team,
as a whole. That's like when the body is in
a state of coherence and all the organs and systems
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aren't like I'm trying to do this, what are you doing?
Oh you're doing that. Okay, well let me know when
you're done, and then I can It's not a sequential thing,
it's a simultaneous thing. It's transcendent. And when we get
into that flow state, we experience the potential of what
I call centropy. I say it's it's the missing the
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the eleventh law of physics, the missing fundamental law of physics.
We know that that entropy is the one that that
are are Cosmologists like to focus on and physicists love
because they can measure it. It's like the way stuff
breaks down falls apart. That's entropy. Randomness, disorder, disease is entropy.
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Temperature is entropy because the hot or something is, the
more random emotions, the more to really under fully know
that system. There's so much information, it's information overload. The
opposite of entropy of information overload in our information age
is meaning. When something's meaningful, we take all that information
(52:32):
and we create one coherent idea, one coherent spiritual form
around it that makes all of it makes sense and
helps it to all move with fluidity in a common direction.
So centropy is the principle of self organizing, which we
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see in the universe, how stars and galaxies are self organizing.
Down to the level of life, where life is self organizing,
it's self healing. When you cut yourself, the blueprint is
already there. Like we talked about cutting the leaf. That
blueprint of energy is the energy field that guides the healing,
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that guides cells to be what they are. Why is
a cancer cell a cancer cell versus it's in the
liver versus being about a site liver cell. Because it's
a blind cell, it's so energetically blocked it can't see
where it is in the body, So it functions as
a single cell, like a single cell when we were
(53:37):
a single cell. What's its mission? Well, to make a
whole body. But yet it's also weighed down by toxins,
so it can't make a healthy looking cell even as
a single cell.
Speaker 2 (53:48):
This is gonna We're gonna wind up a little bit here.
But you know, I have this question I wrote down here.
What do you believe is the future of healthcare of humankind?
Do you think it's possible to bypass the medical industrial complex?
It seems to be in complete control of worldwide healthcare.
But I think you've answered that already.
Speaker 4 (54:08):
Yeah. I like Einstein's take on it. He said the
medicine of the future will be the medicine of frequencies
because energy, like we say, you know, all mass is energy,
so so, and communication is all about energy, even if
it's not the conventional You know that Einstein could rap
(54:29):
his center head around that there's a there's a movement
at light at the speed of light, and that nothing
can happen faster than that. We now know that's not true.
He didn't like spooky action at the distance the quantum
entanglement they call it. But that's every time you're using
your vision or you're hearing, you're using that simultaneous connectivity
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of the entire universe. The it's it's all one substance
that ultimately is consciousness. So we're cellular. We have our
own conscient business as a cell, just like each cell
in our body has its own field. That's part of
the field of the whole. It's it's like as above,
so below cellular all the way up and all the
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way down in in the cosmos. We see it in galaxies.
You know. The whole Big Bang theory is based on
assumption that that when they see a little red dot
out there, that that's red shifted, the light frequencies are
shifted lower energy. They say, well, the only thing we
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can imagine that we're going to what we're gonna believe
is that it's red shifted because it's moving away from
us extremely fast to Doppler effect. But that's been disproven.
The cosmologists who disproved it. Halton Arp was the number
two guy in astronomy, and he was kicked out of
the club when he wrote his book explaining what it
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really is. He said, it's those are baby galaxies. They're
not far away, they're close. They're not moving away from us.
They're developing, they're growing. You see them moving out from
nearby galaxies, and they get higher and higher energy as
they grow. They grow and grow, and then they get
and then they turn around and come back toward the
(56:16):
mother galaxy as they grow. And so a galaxy like
there's a nearby galaxy that they say is that's blue
shifted relative to USS And so the cosmologists tell us
it's someday, millions of years from now, billions of years
from now, it's going to crash into the Milky Way galaxy. No,
(56:36):
it's our mother galaxy. It's older than us, so it
has a higher energy resonance in its matter in the field.
Everything is affected by the field that it's in. And
the thought field again transcends not only space but also time.
Can we heal the past?
Speaker 2 (56:52):
Yes, well, I'll tell you why we are speaking to
doctor Glenn sort out the wizard of Wellness. I love that,
and I could talk to you for hours. And as
a matter of fact, I'm gonna have to go back
and listen to this or watch this show several times
so I can catch everything. Unfortunately we've got to wind
up here, Doctor Glenn. I know you've got a lot
(57:14):
of websites. What's the best website for people to go
to to connect with you?
Speaker 4 (57:21):
Well, all of my websites are linked at my personal website,
glennswartout dot com. If they want to see the kinds
of solutions and remedies that I formulate and put together,
go to remedymatch dot com. It's about matching the resonance,
the energy, the communication, the meaning, the functions of different
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herbs and nutrients with the different functions of the body.
The only way to heal a dysfunction is not to
try to kill it with a drug or remove it
by surgery, but to support that function and related functions
similar functions to promote healing.
Speaker 3 (58:02):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2 (58:03):
Well, I will put all the links to your websites
in the show notes here. And I know I saw
a lot of positive feedback from people you've worked one
on one with, and I would imagine many of the
people watching or listening to this who we'll want to do.
Speaker 3 (58:19):
That, Doctor Glenn. Thank you, mahalo aloha.
Speaker 2 (58:23):
I really appreciate you being on World Awakenings.
Speaker 4 (58:26):
Thank you bless thanks to everyone listening.
Speaker 1 (58:43):
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Hey, my beautiful friends, welcome to episode number one ninety
nine of World Awakenings The Fast Track to Enlightenment.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
I'm your host, Carl Gruber.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Now I invite you to join me as we meet
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Speaker 3 (01:28):
This is what we have done on a.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Regular basis since twenty eighteen, and we continue our mission
to do so here for the one hundred and ninety
ninth time.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
So thank you for joining us.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
And we are honored to welcome Glenn's wort out as
our featured guests on today's show. Not only is he
known by his loyal followers as Doctor Glenn, but also
by the wonderful Moniker.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
The Wizard of Wellness. I love that one.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Doctor Glenn is an eye specialist has been helping people
reverse blindness and other so called irreverse conditions.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
His work is featured in the.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Book Alternative Medicine, The Definitive Guide, and he co authored
Natural Eye Care and Encyclopedia. He describes himself as a
trailblazer who has brought hope.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
And healing to accomplish individuals.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Doctor Glenn has become a notable figure in the field
of natural therapies, with a reputation for pushing the boundaries
of conventional medicine that I can't wait to find out
about utilizing innovative approaches to healing and health. Doctor Glenn
has transformed lives of worldwide and his work continues to
revolutionize the fields of healing and health. He graduated from
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honors in Environmental Earth Sciences and Chemistry from Dartmouth College
and he decided to go in search of natural eye
remedies at the age of twenty five when he was
told he would lose his vision.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
Before he was fifty. So interesting.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Now coming to us from the island paradise of Hawaii, Aloha,
Doctor Glenn will welcome.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
Welcome, Hello, ha, great to be here.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
Oh yeah, I'm excited and I appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
I know it's early in the morning for you, but
we do know, as you told me, you like to
get up.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
Early, and God bless you for that.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
But you know, I'm really anxious to find out more
about these awesome alternative methods and modalities of healing you use.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
But first let's find out.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
What made you to decide to study ophthalmology as a
young man and what happened with your glaucoma diagnosis at
the age of twenty five.
Speaker 4 (03:34):
Well, I grew up in a family my dad was
a leader in the field of behavioral optometry. They just
call it functional optometry back then, so kind of like
functional medicine now. But they work mostly through exercise, through exercising,
not just the eyes and eye muscles, but it's mostly
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exercising the mind and how the mind takes in life
and gets meaning out of our lighted world and guide's
action I hand coordination, things like that. When I was
actually in second grade. I was not a great student,
not having a good time in school. I was a
C student, and my dad put me through a program
(04:19):
of eye exercises we call vision therapy, and I was
an a student ever since that point. So it made
a huge difference in my own life. Then in high school,
I worked in his office as a vision therapist, as
an assistant in that training room, doing the exercise of
teaching other people. And so I knew that it was
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a field that I could I was considering going into
where I knew I could help people. I was actually
very I was most interested in natural medicine even at
that time, because our medical doctor growing up had spent
thirty years researching nutrition and energy medicine. He actually was
a pioneer in energy medicine, working with Steinmetz, a famous
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physicist at a general electric who's called the Wizard of Schenectady.
So with that, you know, with that heritage like that,
that really fascinated me. And I had the grades to
go to medical school. And in fact that Dartmouth's my
classmates who are going to medical school saying how come
you're going to optometry school. You could get into any
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medical school, you know, with your your grades said, well,
I looked at it, I really considered it. But at
that time, there was no integrative medicine specialty. There was
doctors who are trying to do what we now call
functional medicine or integrative medicine were outcasts. They were suppressed
by the field. And there's still a lot of limitations
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within the field of medicine. You know, we think we
have freedom of speech, for example, but think of all
the things you can't say about health. It's you know,
even if it comes to natural sub sinces you have
you're forced, you have compelled speech on the label to
say this is not intended to treat disease. Well, wait
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a minute, I intend to treat disease with only natural medicine,
with only natural substances, because that's in our genetic history
millions of years to get us here. That's all we had.
That is real medicine. It's it's true healing, not some new,
you know, patented compound that never existed before. Doesn't even
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make sense that that would be healing, and they're not.
They're not healing. It's why we have a country where
we take the most drugs of anybody in the world
and we have the lowest health because of it. We
know that drugs are at least the number three cause
of death in public health studies. Some studies say number two,
or if they look at underlying causes, not the proximal
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immediate cause of death, it comes out number one. Because
so many of the illnesses that we have are chronic illnesses.
When we have an acute symptom, we understand that from
a healing perspective, say from homeopathy going back three hundred years,
that that's a sign that the immune system is active,
that the body's attempting the best it can with the
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resources at hand to heal itself. And if we suppress that,
if we stop the symptom, we're just shoving back in
whatever is trying to come out. We're actually shoving it
in deeper. Give a great example, let's say you have
a runny nose and say, oh, I got to go
work on my computer at work and I'm going to
drip on the keyboard. So I'm going to take antihistamine
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and suppress that immune activity, and well, then we wind
up with a higher risk for cancer, not only in
the sinuses where we're pushing it keeping it in, but
in the brain because it's now moving those toxins deeper
into the body systems. Aspirin there's in the last couple
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of years now finally there's a change in the official
record and recommendations. But most doctors and patients don't know
that yet, that aspirin is not recommended to take every
day for your heart, that sort of thing, because it
increases bleeding disorders, not only ulcers in the stomach, but
blindness from the leading cause of I suppose the irreversible blindness,
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wet macular degeneration of bleeding in the eye. When you
take an aspirin, you're increasing your risk for blindness. And
that's so drugs. You know, there's a whole book, the
PDR Physicians Desk Reference that lists all of the side effects.
What is a side effect. It's a direct toxic effect
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of a toxin that we're using, as we say in medicine,
to manage the symptoms of disease. When we can manage
the symptoms of disease, two ways. We can try to
stop the body's activity that that symptom represents, you know,
a headache, and aspirin. We can stop the headache with
the aspirin but the research shows will have more headaches
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in the future than if we let the headache go
and let the body complete the cleansing of those tissues.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Actually, the idea that alternative and natural healing therapies have
been all of mankind has ever known for all of
history until the last couple centuries when modern medicines just
took over.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
Right.
Speaker 4 (09:22):
Well, if there is a little there is a little
deeper history to far the pharmaceutical industry, if we go
back a couple thousand years, it's called pharmachia, and it's
what is that. It's the use of toxins in magic.
Magic is illusion, So it's the illusion that we're healing
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that symptom by using a toxin to shift the symptoms,
shift the stress to a different part of the body.
It's actually what we call it technically, the modern medicine
using pharmachea is the of modern medicine with toxins. It's
called allopathic medicine. That's the technical term you may have
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heard of that. What does that mean? Alo means different,
Pathic means disease. It means we're adding a different disease
on top of we're not healing. We're not talking about
healing or curing. In modern medicine, we're talking about managing
symptoms by adding a different disease, and that's the drug
is the different disease.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
Well, I find it interesting that you said that, you know,
taking a pill or a medicine is a form of magic,
because as a long time student of a course in miracles,
even a course in miracles states that taking something like
that is magic. We believe in magic in order to
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do that. But it makes sense everything you're saying there.
Speaker 4 (10:50):
And we also know that half of the effect of
taking that magic pill, ask your doctor if it's right
for you. The half of the beneficial effect or the
detrimental effects are our expectation, our anticipation, our mind, our
spirit is speaking to ourselves all the time, and the
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cells are following those directions that guidance of how we
envision our future life. So I always tell people, never
go to a surgeon that you don't like. You know,
even the research on surgery, there's only about four dozen
studies that are controlled studies, and most of them show
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that the real surgery is no better results than the
sham surgery, where like for the heart, they cut open
the chest, but they don't do the heart surgery. Well,
they're severing nerves, so you have some less reduced chest
pain from severing nerves, perhaps from the fake surgery, but
also the anticipation of healing is half of the power
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of healing of anything. The mind and spirit are I
think of it as a hierarchy. At the top of
the control systems of the body, mind and spirit is
the spirit. The mind is actually a function of the spirit,
but the spirit goes far beyond the conscious mind. Every
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cell has its own cellular consciousness. I guess we could
say it's the subconscious effects of regulating the millions and
millions of actions of every cell every second. So the
researchers who look at it say, the conscious mind they
estimate can process about one hundred and twenty bits a second.
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That's not a whole lot. So we're thinking, we're thinking about,
you know, what should I do? How should I heal it?
Should I take that drug? Should I rest? Should I
drink water? Should I go to the health food store
and look at all the remedies and talk to people
there and see maybe what might help those Again, those
two ways with material medicine that we can heal. One
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is to stop the healing process, and we turned acute
symptoms into chronic illness, and that's what we suffer from now,
so many chronic illnesses. The other way is to find
what's missing from nature, whether it's in the realm of
stress of our thinking. You know, how we think affects
the healing process, all the way down to the material
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substance of what we're eating, the environments we're putting ourselves
in five G environments, you know, having a cell phone
turned on and you know, stuffed in the bra or
in the pocket, and how that's stressing the body. We're
exposed to over one quadrillion times more EMF those electromagnetic
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fields that are man made artificial stress fields than we
were just ten years ago when we already had a
lot of the technology that we have today. So there's many,
many factors. And that's how how I think of it
is it's so easy for the mind, that limited thinking
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of the mind, to get focused on one particular cause
or one particular solution, but yet the spirit knows so
much more. The body processes millions of bits of information
every second. So to me, the solution, the real solution
for healing is to begin to learn how to quiet
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the mind and listen, whether it's through feeling, whether it's
through intuition, whether it's through things like muscle testing or dowsing,
and other ways of amplifying that internal innate knowledge of
the body, mind, spirit as a functioning whole. To communicate,
to listen, to communicate and understand the body is always
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healing and it will be doing the best it can
with the resources at hand. And if we can supply
missing resources from na we've removed ourselves so much from nature.
We don't we don't have an herb garden and you know,
picking herbs and drinking herbal tea. We might have our
one favorite or you know, maybe it's maybe it's the
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coffee bean, maybe it's the camellia, you know, Chinese tea,
the tea plant. But we need a wider range of
exposure to the materials, the energies, the thought patterns, the
movement patterns that we have in a natural environment. You know,
imagine with movement, if we're watching a movie, how much
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are our eyes moving. They're looking at the screen constantly.
The movement is all done by the film, the person
with the camera, the the editors, and so our eyes
are just there's a lack of movement. Well, one of
the things that's associated with having decreasing health of the eyes.
It's just lack of movement, say in glaucoma, where we
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lose our peripheral vision. If we're not using it to
guide movement and to be aware of the space around us,
then we're you know, we use it or we lose it.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
Well, so many of the things you just spoke about,
we could do entire shows on but you know, just
going back, so if we take a pill and we
believe it's going to work, which it probably will for
a while anyway, that would explain the placebo effect, right placebo.
I mean, it's been proven that if they give you
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a sugar pill and tell you it's some magic cure,
you generally won't notice an improvement in your condition.
Speaker 4 (16:45):
Yes, and there's a really interesting fact I came across
with that is that the placebo has to be the
right color. Oh really, the pill, the drug. You know,
different types of drugs will use different colors. Well, that
turns out to be as important as is the anticipation,
the thought, the conscious thought, or the actual substance that's
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in the pill. Yeah, it's it's it's it's it's a
deep rabbit hole.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
Wow. Wow.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
One thing I would like to go quickly back to
when when we started.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
When you were you mentioned that when you were.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
In second grade, you were a C student and then
your dad put you through some eye therapy and you
became a great student. So you're the hindrance of of
poor vision kept you from being a good student.
Speaker 4 (17:34):
Not vision in the sense of eyesight of visual acuity.
Although that was beginning. I was beginning to get a
little bit near sighted, So there was an issue with
being able to the dynamics of focusing the eyes near
and far is controlled by a little ring shaped muscle
in the eye. That's a smooth muscle, a kind of
muscle we have in the digestive tract. So when there's stress,
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that whole system, that parasympathetic nerve system shuts down, and
so that can be one way that there's interference with
focusing of attention. So that was an issue. So it's
becoming nearsighted because it was hard for me to focus,
and yet I was having to do you know, our
socially compulsive close work, reading and writing types of things.
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That was a stress for me, but I also had
low energy in my eyes due to mercury. Mercury poisoning
I didn't know at the time, but from amalgam fillings
from dentistry was shutting down the energy function around my
eye area and sinus area, and so one eye would
turn out called exotropia. So I could read the letters
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on the chalkboard, but not necessarily easily after focusing near
being able to look back and forth quickly. The program
he put me through involved my movement, I focusing, spatial awareness,
visual field spatial awareness, visual thinking like visualization, three dimensional
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vision of coordinating, and using the two eyes together as
a team to see things in greater dimensionality. Which it's
not just how we see the world out there, but
if we don't see the world in three dimensions, how
can we think in three dimensions? So vision is we're
conventionally taught to think of it as just sort of
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seeing small letters small print at twenty feet is the
test of visual acuity. You pass the driver's test, But
there's so much more to vision. It's if we look
at how the brain functions. Two thirds of all the
electrical nerve current coming into the brain comes through the
two optic nerves. So vision is our dominant sense. Just
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like for dogs, they smell a whole lot more than
we do. You know, they take a ride in the
car and their noses out the window and they're smelling
the whole neighborhood. What's going on there?
Speaker 2 (20:01):
Wow? So you had a pretty cool dad. He sounded
like a free thinker.
Speaker 4 (20:07):
He was a thought leader in the field, and that
that was an inspiration to me for sure.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
Well, let's go back to when when all of a sudden,
you're twenty five years old and you get a diagnosis
for a glaud cooma, I imagine I put you in shock.
Speaker 3 (20:23):
And so when did you realize once you started.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
Doing these alternative therapies on yourself, when did you realize
that your glaucoma had been healed?
Speaker 4 (20:34):
So when I learned that at twenty five, I was
already very, very interested in bringing natural medicine, natural therapy
into the eye care and eye rehabilitation field. But as
far as what other people were doing, there were very
few who were looking at eye diseases, blinding eye diseases
in relation to that. Although we were working with head
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trauma rehabilitation or working with stroke rehabilitation, but the chronic
degenerative diseases, we're just not in the realm of making
that connection. So I had to research that myself and
bring that together. Where the big breakthrough came for me
was I studied with a naturopath who was the head
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of the Canadian naturopathic School. He showed me with European
biological medicine and German electroacupuncture, looking at the body's energy
field and seeing where is the energy field, where is
there too much energy meaning inflammation, Where is there too
little where there'll be degeneration, And how does that respond
instantaneously when you bring something that's therapeutic into the body field,
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even within a centimeter of the body through a vacuum.
So it's a photonic or light communication between our body
and its energy field, which is really the field of
the spirit goes beyond the body. Our sensory field vision.
When we look at the star, that's literally we're seeing
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our spirit producing that image out there, you know, as
far away as we see it, which is a little
different for one person than another. Where we project that
image and we can measure that, and that measurement centers
on actually a point between the two eyes called the
cyclopean eye in vision science. We don't see it from
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the eyeballs, and we don't see it from the visual cortex,
as most of the PhD brain scientists think, they have
no clue how it gets from the brain to where
we actually see it out in space. But everything we
see is us. You see your own spirit producing that
image in space. But so when working with him, he
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showed me how I was not healthy enough to actually
eliminate mercury and yet had a whole bunch of fillings
where it was leaching into my body off the charts
as far as the electrical interaction's going on there. It
took about three years of doing doing testing my body's
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response to different nutrients and herbs and frequencies, and then
applying those month after month with a changing program, keeping
up with the healing process, to where I was able
to see that all of the indications of glaucoma were gone.
The pressures were down to normal from like thirty down
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to fifteen, no further loss of vision, no changes in
the thirty years, thirty five years since then. In fact,
I don't even wear glasses at age sixty eight, and
I used to have to wear glasses for driving when
I was back then when I was thirty. So yeah,
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it was a combination of all of those different methods.
The final thing that brought my eye pressures down was
actually light therapy called syntonics and optometry that goes way
back before you know licensing and FDA regulations. There were
thousands of eye doctors that used different light frequencies, colors,
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different color filters, and light to heal the eyes and
visual system. And then when drugs came out and licensing
a medicine and the control systems with FDA, they literally
put on the books to make it illegal to ship
the books and instruments across state lines. They went out
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and they burned the books, they destroyed the instruments. It
was only another couple generations later that one a friend
of mine, PhD optometrist at Berkeley, found references to it
in the library there where they didn't get rid of
all the books. And then he was able to track
down one or two doctors in the Midwest and little
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towns where they never got the message, you know, the
message never came through. Oh that doesn't work anymore, can't
do that, and the people in those towns. If somebody
moved into the town from somewhere else and they have
a sinus headache and they complain to the neighbors, they'd say, oh, well,
just go to doctor so and so down the street
and look at the blue green light and that'll take
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care of it and it won't come back.
Speaker 3 (25:17):
Yeah, I'm so glad you are in the show.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
I mean so, I'd say the vast majority of the people,
especially in North America, have no clue about this stuff,
you know, I mean just my daily friends and acquaintances.
Oh my god, there's colds and flus going around. I
got to get a shot for this and that and
take a pill for that, and it's just ongoing.
Speaker 3 (25:40):
But God blessed that there's people like you here one
that I do.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
Anybody who studies medical medicine and all that, can you
tell us about the wide gap between Western medicine and
Oriental medicine. Why the difference and what is the difference the.
Speaker 4 (26:00):
Biggest if we take it out to the context to
see what's what's the biggest difference is kind of like
the difference in vision between peripheral vision and central detailed vision.
Western medicine focuses in on that one thing. They say,
what's the diagnosis. We want to put a Latin name
on it, so you know, we sound like we know
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what we're talking about, and you don't know. We're like
the high priests of medicine speaking our own language. So
we've got a you know, hepatitis, it's itis's inflammation. Hepat
is liver. So it's inflammation and liver is all they're saying.
And it's an opinion. It's not a thing, but the
mind when it hears that you have hepatitis, we create
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a thing. Thoughts are things. We create a field of
energy that we hold onto in our field that has
this meaning of my liver is sick, and it's you know,
has this expected outcome. It's not going to get better,
or you know, it's it's a chronic thing. It could
get work, you could die from it. All these thoughts
are affecting our ability to heal that. And so in
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Oriental medicine, it's not how it is, it's you look
at the whole person. You you you want to see
what's the picture of this whole person. You might have
two people who would have a hepatitis diagnosis. In Western medicine,
who have different patterns of strengths and weaknesses. You know,
one person might have inflammation a lot of other areas,
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the other one might have just in the liver. It
might you know, affecting different systems in different ways. So
that would result in different treatment because you treat the
individual rather than the disease. You know, you don't just
treat an isolated symptom. You look at it in the
context of the whole person. When we when we measure
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the difference between those systems with the electronic measurements on
the acupuncture meridia, we see that the herbal combinations that
acupuncturists come up with by looking at the tongue and
feeling the pulses and considering the whole person are about
eighty five percent of the time they actually produce a
state of coherence, a more balanced energetic state in the
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body where the body is able to heal much more rapidly.
And that's what the point of acupuncture is, to create
that energetic balance in the body, state of coherence. If
we look at Western medicines, it's just the opposite. About
eighty five percent or more of the time, the drug
that's prescribed actually reduces coherence reduces energetic balance in the body,
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even though it may be effective at changing that at
manipulating that isolated symptom, that is the thing that you're
trying to isolate they're trying to change. Best example that
I know of is they did a study on high
blood pressure in England and instead of just asking the
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doctors if the patients were better on their anti hypertensive drugs,
and of course they all agreed, Yeah, the pressures are lower,
he's better. They asked the patient, They asked the patient's
family members, they asked the pastor of that patient's spiritual community,
and guess what, nobody else agreed with the doctor that
the person was better. They all observed the person was
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less well, less energetic, less active, less conscious, you know,
less involved in their life. Their health was decreased. So
we need to, you know, if we're going to use
the tools of Western medicine. There's some wonderful tools there,
especially those that are non invasive, that don't harm the
body and actually follow the first rule of medicine. First,
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do no harm. That should still be the first rule
of medicine, which means, what can we do before we
even consider drugs and surgery, which by definition are going
to do some harm. Even a lot of the dietite
diagnostic techniques do harm. You know, if you're going to
cut into a tumor to diagnose it, so you know
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which chemotherapy to use. Cutting into a tumor is going
to ninety percent of the time spread those cells through
the blood and the length. So that's that's about the
worst thing that you can do. And yet there's German
new medicine. For years and years now they've been showing
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eighty to ninety percent cure of cancer without radiation, chemotherapy
or surgery. So what's the point of that diagnosis if
we can heal it without spreading the disease. If we
look at a study at Harvard, they wondered, well, how
good is our diagnosis? And so they did histology slices
of tissue under a microscope to look at what's the
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actual disease that we see at a cellular level. How
does it match with the diagnosis that we retreating in
our hospital the best hospital, one of the best hospitals
in the country, only one out of three people actually
had the disease that they were being treated for. Ooh right,
So you know, is it any better in your local
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GP's office. Not likely. And some things are easier to
diagnose than others, but that's on average most of the time.
The drug or surgery you're getting maybe for something that's
actually not what you're ultimately suffering from.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
I remember seeing years ago Greg Braden had gone to
China and.
Speaker 3 (31:37):
He did a video and.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
It's probably available somewhere online, and there were three Oriental
Chinese medical practitioners who gathered around a woman who had
a stomach tumor. Well, they had her stomach X ray
or however, they did it on a screen and you
can see it live, and they stood there for ten
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or fifteen minutes saying already done, already done, in unison,
as if this tumor was already healed and gone.
Speaker 3 (32:09):
And as they did.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
This, Greg Braden has this video, you could see the
tumor shrink and shrink and shrink and disappear and the
woman was cured. No cutting into the tumor or anything,
which is interesting. You say that when you cut into
tumor it spreads. And then the medical field, you know,
I don't know of anybody who takes a medicine. Well,
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there's probably maybe a few, but most people I talked
to who take some format and medicine say oh yeah,
and the side effects are blah blah blah.
Speaker 3 (32:41):
It seems like everything has a side effect.
Speaker 4 (32:45):
My first office was in Tokyo, Japan when I got
out of school, and one of the things that we're
doing research there and looking at other practitioners, and one
of the practitioners that I got to visit was a
Philippine psychic surgeon surgeon. The boss, the owner of the
company I was sponsored by his wife had a grapefruit
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sized cyst on one ovary and the next day after
the psychic surgery, it was completely gone. So yeah, there's
many many ways that we'll look at the phenomenon that
they call spontaneous remission. There's over three thousand cases in
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the medical literature with cancer. It can be metastatic cancer
throughout the body. In most cases it's gone in three days.
There's always a high fever. Now we can use artificial
fever saunas or localized fever equivalent using infrared to speed
up the healing process. There's always bacterial activity involved, which
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we call infection, but we also call it our microbiome
and it's the most important thing. Before people are diagnosed
with chronic disease, there's always a loss of that health
of the microbiome. So even if it's a monoculture, a
single organism that's proliferating, it means we're giving it the
patriotish the growth conditions to grow. That it's not that
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it's attacking us, it's that we're feeding it. But it's
also producing enzymes that'll break down toxins that are in
a tumor. There was actually research about five hundred years
ago where they took an infection, a pus from an
infection and inoculated tumors with it, and half of the
people were cured by that. The other half died of
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toxemia because it released the toxins that tumors are sequestering
they're holding keeping away from the rest of the body
for the protection of the body. They weren't able to
detoxify that as rapidly as they were released, so they
stopped doing the research. But to me, that's those are
lines of research that are worthy of pursuing. But yet
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there's no there's no money from government or corporations that
really control the government funding or have been to look
into things like spontaneous remission. Why do we call it spontaneous?
We don't want to know the cause because there's no
money in it, right, Aging related, macular degeneration, aging related,
what's the cause? It's aging related, as if there's no cause. No, no, no,
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it's it's diet related for sure. It didn't exist until
we started processing foods in the eighteenth late eighteen hundreds,
and now it's you know, one out of three people
over age seventy five in our culture are losing vision
from it.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
Some amazing, amazing information here, you know. Yeah, I love
that you've been talking about the spiritual aspect of it.
Seems to me that much of what you practice and
believe is a healer intersects perfectly with the universal spiritual
understanding and quantum physics that everything is connected and there's
no sense operation of anything. How does this play into
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what you practice and believe?
Speaker 4 (36:05):
Well, again, my approach is not to think that I'm
smarter than your body. So what I want to I
want to understand you know, your history, your symptoms. Get
that picture like an oriental medicine, to understand the individual,
because that's a unique picture that helps me to think
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about what might work. But then I want to if
I'm going to propose something for healing a certain herb
or herbal combination or nutritional combination, I want to ask
your body if this is right for you. In other words,
to have some measure of resonance, how does the body respond?
Not taking pieces out and measuring the chemistry. There's in
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Oriental medicine, we say there's ten thousand things, and so
you do thousands of dollars a lab tests and you
measure a few dozen things. It doesn't tell you how
those things and all the other ten thousand things are
going to interact with It's something new that you bring
into the system. You have to look at the behavior,
the energy, the field you know that's guided by the spirit,
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that's intelligent, and again it responds instantaneously. So we can
ask lots of questions. There's many ways to do that
with AGA, with from muscle testing to electroacupuncture testing, to
to dowsing to just purely intuitive processes. Some people are clairvoyant,
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clear sentient, clear audience. They can get signals, messages, meaningful
messages through their senses. So that depends on the practitioner,
the individual self healing. But the more that we use
those intuitive, intuition based methods and spirit based methods, the
better they get. You know. It's it's like learning to walk,
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learning to speak, learning to write, learning to communicate with
the subtlety of the spiritual realm, which in we've kind
of grown up in a culture where science has decided
we're going to assume that that's not real. That's not
part of what we're going to consider. If there's a miracle,
that's not in our realm to study with science. But
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if it's we have a science that doesn't understand how
miracles happen what we would call a miracle, like say
the three doctors using their intention and their energy fields
to help heal the field of the patient in real time,
then that's not a complete science. And then we know
again from placebo effect, well that's half of healing. So
(38:33):
we have a science that considers itself complete that negates
the most important half of reality, which is the top
down intelligent control systems of this divinely created self healing,
self guided system. That's not that's not the way you know,
(38:54):
poking a stick into a living, self organizing, self healing system,
and is not the way to heal it. You want
to work with it, understand it, ask it. What would
you like, Oh, you'd like you know, Oh you want
to stick? You want a name, stick to clean your teeth? Yeah, okay, great.
Speaker 3 (39:12):
Interesting.
Speaker 2 (39:12):
You know, I have read a number of times and
heard that diagnosis in and of itself can actually cause
more of this quote malady that you may be suffering
at that time because our mind is so powerful and believed.
Speaker 3 (39:30):
Well, the doctor said I have this. Well, then as.
Speaker 2 (39:34):
It's snowballs, your mind just keep based on fear. Oh
my god, I've got this, and it actually perpetuates it
and creates.
Speaker 3 (39:42):
This thing that you've been diagnosed with.
Speaker 4 (39:45):
What do we say? What we resist persists? We've all
heard that that phrase. I think, yeah, yeah, it's true.
And why because we create a thing. It's a spiritual
entity that we've created, a thought form. I have this thing,
we're taking ownership of it. We're in ourselves, and now
we're fighting it, which means we're fighting ourselves. If the
disease was actually the cause of the problem, then we'd
(40:09):
want to remove the disease. But if the disease is
a symptom in itself. A collection of symptoms and signs.
It's an expression, it's an effect, not a cause, and
the causes are usually more subtle. We see what we
see as the disease or the symptom is the expression
of our vital force as attempt to remove the cause,
(40:31):
maybe the mercury. In my case. Mercury is known as
the great masquerader of the mineral kingdom. It's the most
symptomatic of all the heavy metals. It's known that it
can cause any symptom or the appearance of any disease,
just depending on where it's located in the body, which tissue,
where at a cellular level, and what enzyme pathway. You know,
(40:54):
it can masquerade as syphilis. Was known that way back
when that was the predominant STD that and guess what
mercury is a treat was the main treatment for syphilis.
There's a similarity which we refer to in homeopathy similar disease.
You take something like mercury, which has a similar resonance
(41:15):
to syphilis, you dilute it and energize it, potentize it.
It's to cuss it to where it's diluted to a
non toxic level, but it still carries that resonance. I
think of it all as angelic. A mineral is an angel,
a plant is an angel, and a biological system contains
(41:36):
many different angels. They are hierarchies of angels, as you
know Scripture would describe, there's the angel of the human species,
and then there's the angel of this individual, and there's
the angel of this organ and this compound, because everything
like the physicist who who? Who? Einstein identified as the
(41:59):
next great thinker after him in physics, David Bohm. One
of my favorite sayings of his is all matter is
frozen light.
Speaker 2 (42:08):
Yes, yeah, I've heard this matter is energy equals mc squared.
Speaker 4 (42:13):
We got that from Einstein. The equivalents energy equivalents of
energy and mass. In fact, I did some very interesting
calculations and I'm sure your listeners will appreciate as well
that if we look at the mass energy equivalents and
we ask the question how much how much mass? How
(42:37):
much energy is involved in the spirit body, the spirit
this consciousness field that we see and hear, everything we
feel inside the body, feel touched on the skin, everything
we hear in our local environment, how we see out
to the galaxies and stars. That's an energy field. That's
an incredible amount of energy. And it's a universal field
(43:00):
where universal spirits, the spirit body, the ghost in the
machine is local in the body. When we're having what
I call an in body experience, we can have an
outer body or near death experience where the spirit and
the body are now separated. But even when it's in
the body, there's a field that extends beyond the body
about a centimeter. We can see on Curlean photography if
(43:21):
you take a leaf and you cut it in half
and take a Curlean photo of it, you still see
the whole leaf because the spirit is still there for
the whole leaf. And that's super fluid, super conducting. It has.
It's called non ordinary matter. And if you look at
the two thousand and one Nobel Prize in physics, they
(43:42):
gave a prize for documenting non ordinary matter called a
Bose Einstein condensate well that exists that almost zero degrees
kelvin with no heat energy. It doesn't exist except in
a laboratory. But there's something that's patented in modern alchemy
called ORMs, patented by David Hudson. We call it m
(44:05):
state minerals or or MISS or white powder gold. There's
every culture has a name for it, but it's the
mineral form, the physical form of the spirit body. But
because it's in this non ordinary state of matter, ghost
like form, we can't measure it with ordinary material with
(44:26):
an ordinary instrument. There's a Russian patented instrumentation where you
take normal instruments to measure minerals, you put them in
a different atmosphere and you burn the minerals for three
minutes instead of fifteen seconds, and then you find out, oh,
the main ones are gold, rhodium, and iridium. In our
spirit body. In the brain it's gold. It's not gold.
(44:49):
Gold is in the heart and in the whole field.
But in the brain they found rhodium and iridium. And
based on the characteristics of those I is, I'm pretty
confident of it that iridium is the one that allows
us to see, and rhodium is the one that's sensitive
to pressure waves, sound waves versus transverse waves of light, electromagnetism,
(45:14):
and the gold is the one that allows us to
take all of that in together and get meaning out
of it. And it's centered in the heart. They're all
centered in the heart, but the roodium extends to the
third and fifth chakras. The iridium goes to the sixth
and second chakras, and the gold all the way to
(45:34):
the first and seventh chakras. We have this concentric field
of these three they called the M three minerals in
modern alchemy. And so in the patent of David Hudson's
work patented in England, the US Patent Office said, you're correct.
All your information is right. You took the metal gold
(45:56):
and you made it into white powder gold, and you
turned it back to.
Speaker 3 (45:59):
The tallet gold.
Speaker 4 (46:01):
But we can't give you a patent because we already
know that. But we're just not telling anyone. We're using
it for, you know, spaceships and black operations and stuff
we're not going to talk about. Got the British pattern,
you can read it. Five ninths of the gold and
the other atoms is still there as mass the other
four nines where is it? It's non local. Well, that's
(46:22):
what our sensory fields are. They're non local. When the
mineral that's located in the visual cortex, the iridium, senses
the electromagnetic fields in our visual cortex, it projects that
image into space that allows us to see the moon
and the stars in the sun, and so we can
(46:43):
look at the equivalence of that four ninths of the mass,
because you know, when they studied brain tissue, they found
that there was five percent of the dry weight of
the brain was rhodium and iridium. That's an awful lot
of material that in an ordinary lab they usually don't
even write it down, but it's ash that didn't burn,
and it's the unknown. If they write it down, they
(47:03):
say unknown, so many percent. So the other piece of
the puzzle is said, well, okay, what's we know how
much mass was turned into energy at Hiroshima. So I
looked that up. Yeah, and came up with the equivalents
based on what we know the five percent in the
(47:24):
brain for the whole body containing these three minerals, and
then the amount of energy that came out of mass
turned into energy in Hiroshima. So your soul, your spirit
in that field, the part that's the consciousness consciousness field,
so not the part that's still sub substantial and has
(47:46):
mass that's in the body as the ghost, but the
consciousness of the ghost is equivalent of the energy of
six Hiroshima bombs.
Speaker 3 (47:58):
Wow, what's the difference?
Speaker 4 (48:00):
Are the life consciousness field is a creative energy fieldhirosima
is a destructive energy field. What's the difference. Destructive energy
is extremely limited. It's limited in time. Happens now, doesn't continue,
and it's amount of what it can do is limited
(48:22):
to destroying what already has created, and so it can
never It's not infinite. It's always limited to what it
can destroy in that moment versus the creat energy of creation.
That power that our soul has we know from centis
the science of touch, that the energy pattern of There's
(48:46):
one emotion that's totally coherent that never dies, and that's love.
So the power of love is infinite in time, and
our spirit is already infinite in space.
Speaker 2 (49:01):
Well, well, I absolutely love where you're going with us.
I'm blown away by all of these things you've been
telling us. And of course we are talking to the
wizard of wellness, doctor Glenn swart Out, and oh my gosh,
we could do show upon show upon show on this.
Speaker 3 (49:18):
We've got a few minutes left here to talk to
doctor Glenn.
Speaker 2 (49:22):
And you know, many of my viewers and listeners know
that I myself, Carl Gruber, am deeply invested in healing
and that I'm the administrator of a very large Power
of Eight healing group, which is based on the research
and writings of Lynn McTaggart's Power of Eight book. What
are your thoughts on the premise that when eight or
(49:42):
more people come together to focus on healing a person, place,
or thing, miraculous healings take place, Well, you.
Speaker 4 (49:49):
Can call it synergy is a very very very powerful thing.
And by the nature of that synergy, based on the
coheren of say a group of people with the coherent
intention think of it. Here's a good analogy for for
you know, for everybody out there who's not quite there yet.
(50:12):
It's like, okay, you're playing football and you want to
move the ball down the field. That's like the healing goal.
We want to move the ball down the field. We
want that tumor to shrink, we want it to go away.
And if there's just one guy trying to move it,
and and there's maybe the rest of the team members
are are doing other things, they're on their cell phone,
they're you know, they're having lunch, they're taking a break,
(50:35):
having a drink, it's not going to work as well
as if you get if you get the whole team
running the same play, and they're coherent in the sense
that they're they're beyond. There's different stages of developing coherence. Uh.
There would be first of all, yeah, they they're they're
on the same team, they've practiced together, and they're running
(50:58):
the same play. And then there's a level of what
athletes would call in the flow, where it's no longer
I'm doing this, it's happening. You're you're in the flow
of it. It's it's playing you. But as a team,
as a whole. That's like when the body is in
a state of coherence and all the organs and systems
(51:20):
aren't like I'm trying to do this, what are you doing?
Oh you're doing that. Okay, well let me know when
you're done, and then I can It's not a sequential thing,
it's a simultaneous thing. It's transcendent. And when we get
into that flow state, we experience the potential of what
I call centropy. I say it's it's the missing the
(51:43):
the eleventh law of physics, the missing fundamental law of physics.
We know that that entropy is the one that that
are are Cosmologists like to focus on and physicists love
because they can measure it. It's like the way stuff
breaks down falls apart. That's entropy. Randomness, disorder, disease is entropy.
(52:07):
Temperature is entropy because the hot or something is, the
more random emotions, the more to really under fully know
that system. There's so much information, it's information overload. The
opposite of entropy of information overload in our information age
is meaning. When something's meaningful, we take all that information
(52:32):
and we create one coherent idea, one coherent spiritual form
around it that makes all of it makes sense and
helps it to all move with fluidity in a common direction.
So centropy is the principle of self organizing, which we
(52:52):
see in the universe, how stars and galaxies are self organizing.
Down to the level of life, where life is self organizing,
it's self healing. When you cut yourself, the blueprint is
already there. Like we talked about cutting the leaf. That
blueprint of energy is the energy field that guides the healing,
(53:16):
that guides cells to be what they are. Why is
a cancer cell a cancer cell versus it's in the
liver versus being about a site liver cell. Because it's
a blind cell, it's so energetically blocked it can't see
where it is in the body, So it functions as
a single cell, like a single cell when we were
(53:37):
a single cell. What's its mission? Well, to make a
whole body. But yet it's also weighed down by toxins,
so it can't make a healthy looking cell even as
a single cell.
Speaker 2 (53:48):
This is gonna We're gonna wind up a little bit here.
But you know, I have this question I wrote down here.
What do you believe is the future of healthcare of humankind?
Do you think it's possible to bypass the medical industrial complex?
It seems to be in complete control of worldwide healthcare.
But I think you've answered that already.
Speaker 4 (54:08):
Yeah. I like Einstein's take on it. He said the
medicine of the future will be the medicine of frequencies
because energy, like we say, you know, all mass is energy,
so so, and communication is all about energy, even if
it's not the conventional You know that Einstein could rap
(54:29):
his center head around that there's a there's a movement
at light at the speed of light, and that nothing
can happen faster than that. We now know that's not true.
He didn't like spooky action at the distance the quantum
entanglement they call it. But that's every time you're using
your vision or you're hearing, you're using that simultaneous connectivity
(54:50):
of the entire universe. The it's it's all one substance
that ultimately is consciousness. So we're cellular. We have our
own conscient business as a cell, just like each cell
in our body has its own field. That's part of
the field of the whole. It's it's like as above,
so below cellular all the way up and all the
(55:11):
way down in in the cosmos. We see it in galaxies.
You know. The whole Big Bang theory is based on
assumption that that when they see a little red dot
out there, that that's red shifted, the light frequencies are
shifted lower energy. They say, well, the only thing we
(55:33):
can imagine that we're going to what we're gonna believe
is that it's red shifted because it's moving away from
us extremely fast to Doppler effect. But that's been disproven.
The cosmologists who disproved it. Halton Arp was the number
two guy in astronomy, and he was kicked out of
the club when he wrote his book explaining what it
(55:55):
really is. He said, it's those are baby galaxies. They're
not far away, they're close. They're not moving away from us.
They're developing, they're growing. You see them moving out from
nearby galaxies, and they get higher and higher energy as
they grow. They grow and grow, and then they get
and then they turn around and come back toward the
(56:16):
mother galaxy as they grow. And so a galaxy like
there's a nearby galaxy that they say is that's blue
shifted relative to USS And so the cosmologists tell us
it's someday, millions of years from now, billions of years
from now, it's going to crash into the Milky Way galaxy. No,
(56:36):
it's our mother galaxy. It's older than us, so it
has a higher energy resonance in its matter in the field.
Everything is affected by the field that it's in. And
the thought field again transcends not only space but also time.
Can we heal the past?
Speaker 2 (56:52):
Yes, well, I'll tell you why we are speaking to
doctor Glenn sort out the wizard of Wellness. I love that,
and I could talk to you for hours. And as
a matter of fact, I'm gonna have to go back
and listen to this or watch this show several times
so I can catch everything. Unfortunately we've got to wind
up here, Doctor Glenn. I know you've got a lot
(57:14):
of websites. What's the best website for people to go
to to connect with you?
Speaker 4 (57:21):
Well, all of my websites are linked at my personal website,
glennswartout dot com. If they want to see the kinds
of solutions and remedies that I formulate and put together,
go to remedymatch dot com. It's about matching the resonance,
the energy, the communication, the meaning, the functions of different
(57:43):
herbs and nutrients with the different functions of the body.
The only way to heal a dysfunction is not to
try to kill it with a drug or remove it
by surgery, but to support that function and related functions
similar functions to promote healing.
Speaker 3 (58:02):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2 (58:03):
Well, I will put all the links to your websites
in the show notes here. And I know I saw
a lot of positive feedback from people you've worked one
on one with, and I would imagine many of the
people watching or listening to this who we'll want to do.
Speaker 3 (58:19):
That, Doctor Glenn. Thank you, mahalo aloha.
Speaker 2 (58:23):
I really appreciate you being on World Awakenings.
Speaker 4 (58:26):
Thank you bless thanks to everyone listening.
Speaker 1 (58:43):
This has been another episode of World Awakenings, the Fast
Track to Enlightenment with host Carl Gruber, a certified Law
of Attraction life coach. We welcome you to tune in
to each and every episode of World Awakenings as we
open your your heart and your eyes to the fact
that the world's population is now more than ever awakening
(59:06):
to the truth of all things spiritual, metaphysical and enlightening,
and just how much they play an all important role
in our moment to moment daily life. Much love and
light to you, my friend, and thank you for tuning
into World Awakenings.
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