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Hey everyone, welcome once again to World Awakenings the Fast
Track to Enlightenment. I'm your host, Carl Gruber. Now with
this episode number two twenty seven. This show continues it's
NonStop quest to seek out and understand all things outside
of our visible three D world and how all things spiritual, metaphysical,
and enlightening play a far more important role in our
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you don't miss a single episode. All right, Off, we
go to meet our guests for today's show. We welcome
Alexander Dunlap and Vicky SLADERI, who are sacred strategy guides
for the game of life. They teach that the ordinary
deck of cards is a mirror of the solar year
and a perfect mathematical reflection of Earth's cycles. That sounds
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super interesting. Now. Through the Source Cards, they help people
decode their soul's gameplan, align with purpose, and play their
cards right in life. Alexander is a Harvard trained philosopher,
former Wall Street consultant, and best selling author of the
book Play Your Cards Right, A Sacred Guide to Life
on Earth. And Vicki is an intuitive healer, founder of
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Source Healing and a graduate of the Barbara Brennan's School
of Healing. Now, together they blend masculine and feminine wisdom
to guide people into true soul alignment much needed here
on planet. Or so with that, Hey, welcome guys.
Speaker 4 (05:15):
Thank you so much, Carl for that beautiful introduction. We're
so happy to be here.
Speaker 5 (05:20):
Yeah, thank you for that lovely introduction. We're excited to
talk with you today.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
All right, awesome, thank you, thank you. Well. You know,
I think you can see this as a real passion
of mine, and I know what you do is a
pure passion for you. But you know, I have to
say that I've had well over two hundred guests on
the show who are masters and teachers of all things
spiritual and metaphysical? But I've never had anyone on the
show that teaches that an ordinary deck of playing cards
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can be a life changer for anyone. So, but first,
let's find out about you two. From what I read,
Alexander Holy mackerel, you've had an extraordinary journey in life.
Can you give us a journey?
Speaker 5 (06:02):
Sure it is, and it has been and continues to
be an extraordinary journey. And often when I share my
full story, which I won't do today, I'll give you
the cliff notes, but the full version, people tell me
it's the most interesting life story they ever heard. My
whole journey to find, eventually the real meaning of the
playing cards hidden in plain sight. It started for me
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with a spontaneous spiritual awakening when I was seventeen. I
grew up Roman Catholic and didn't mean that much to me.
That experience when I was seventeen propelled me, though, to
want to figure out who we are, why we're here,
what this is all about. I'd done well in school,
so I got into Harvard and I was studying philosophy
there looking for answers and the great philosophers. But I
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also became a born again Christian during that time, accepting
Jesus into my heart as my savior in that classical tradition.
So that was my first foray into what is this
all about? Why are we here? The juxtaposition of studying
philosophy at Harvard and being a born again Christian at
the same time. From there, though, my journey took several
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twists and turns. I went to Roman Catholic seminary. I
thought I might want to be a Catholic priest. I
went back to the religion of my upbringing. Meanwhile, as
you mentioned, I also worked on Wall Street as a consultant,
So doing the corporate thing, I started exploring out of
bounds a little further. I started trying psychedelics, various recreational drugs.
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Then I traveled to India and was meditating all day,
living in aschromz there, still looking for answers, who are we?
Why are we here? What's this all about? When I
came back from India, through many twists and turns, I
ended up co founding a holistic health center. I became
raw vegan. For a while, I was doing ayahuasca ceremonies,
still looking for answers. Then when I got divorced the
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first time, I'm picky as my second wife, I'm very
happily married life partner. The day after I got divorced,
I was getting divorced, I went out to a party
in Brooklyn, and somebody shared with me, Oh, what's your birthday?
They did a little math in their head and like, Oh,
it means you're born to play the Nina Hearts. It
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means in this life you're going to go through tragic
endings of the heart and you're going to have to
learn how to let go and move on. And it
was such a synchronistic moment in my life, given that
I was going through a divorce, to hear that my
life path was one that would have tragic endings of
the heart and I would have to let go and
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move on. It was a big deja vu kind of
moment for me, and the air got thick around me
and my knees buckled for a moment. There was not,
at the time very much written about the real meaning
of the playing cards, so I started exploring it and
studying what I could. Then it was through my own
you could say, realizations revelations through the eyowa ouscar ceremonial
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work that I was still doing at the time. That
the real meaning of these cards came through. How they
were once known as the Book of Life. We'll get
into that in a minute, and how they come out
of the Tree of Life, as all their meaning emerges
out of the Flower of Life and the Tree of Life.
So it's a visual symbolic language that shows us the
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meaning of life on earth, who we are, why we're here.
It also shows the structure of our space time matrix.
It shows the building blocks of our reality. It's symbolic
of the sacred geometric forms and the Fibonacci sequence, the
mathematical code that are again it's the foundational building blocks
of reality. And it was all hidden in plain sight,
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persecuted by the Church in the Middle Ages. It tickles me.
I was studying to be a priest at one point.
Now I'm practicing which craft according to the same church.
But that propaganda was so effective in the Middle Ages
that even today, six hundred, seven hundred years later, people
are still wary of these cards and the real meaning
still hasn't fully come out. That's how effective that propaganda was.
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That the Church did in the Middle Ages, but starting
in twenty twelve with the Mayan prophecy, the real meaning
is starting to come out. And I believe, and we believe,
Vicky and I working together as a husband and wife team,
we believe this is the tool that will help us
all evolve in our humanity on this planet. It will
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take our human consciousness to the next level. It represents
a fundamental paradigm shift in our awareness of our being
that there are fifty two factorial right ways to live.
Can get into what that means too, if you want.
We've all learned that there's only one right way to live.
That's the narrative of Biblical monotheism, and even if we're
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no longer Biblical monotheists, literally, we all still carry that
assumptive framework that there's one right way. If we disagree
with that, then leads us into moral relativism, where it's
kind of a mishmash of well, what is the right way? Well,
it's whatever you feel. That's kind of the New Age approach.
But there is actually a real framework that we can
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utilize that takes away all the guests work that shows
us exactly who we are and why we're here. It
gives us our own unique roadmap, and it shows us
when we may be off our game or on our game.
So it does give us a moral yardstick, but it's
unique for each person. So this paradigm of the fifty
two cards gives us a complete framework for our being
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that helps us understand our reality, and it shows us
how to be a better version of ourselves. It isn't
just do whatever you want, it's how do you line
up with the patterns of your cards to play your cards?
Speaker 1 (11:47):
Right?
Speaker 5 (11:49):
So with that, I'll pause. I've said a lot, but
let me stop there for now.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
I can just visualize some of the viewers and listeners
at home just all of a sudden, like this big
can of worms has been But you're the first guest
I've ever had that one from being a born again
Christian to doing ayahuasca ceremonies and hanging out with shamans
in India. The movie of your life is going to
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be a hit, but people think it's science fiction or something.
Speaker 5 (12:21):
Well, thank you for that. I actually do have an
idea to make a documentary about my journey. Thank you
for that inspiration.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
You know you should. I just recently had psychoacoustic healer
Tom Kenyon on recently and he did produce a documentary
and he uses it very well, and you should do
something like that. But amazing, amazing, And we're just scratching
the surface here of course. Now we have to check
on with you, Vicky. So you've experienced, you have much
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experience in talent as a healer, and I have a
deep investment in healing. But I understand that you went
through years of health challenges yourself. What were those health
issues in how did you finally overcome them?
Speaker 4 (13:02):
So it was my late twenties that I didn't get
my period for six years, and I went to different
doctors and doctors couldn't figure out what was going on
with me. And then it was my mother who found
an energy healer and she's like, let's try this, you know,
why don't you, you know, try this? And I went
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for healing and it was quite profound the session, even
in and of itself, it just was very deep. And
the woman even said to me, I think that you
have a gift for this, to do this with your life,
to be a healer, an energy healer.
Speaker 6 (13:39):
She laid her hands on me and.
Speaker 4 (13:43):
It was I can't remember the exact timing, but like
maybe between one and three days that I got my
period after the session. So that just really like catapulted
me into the path of healing and wanting to know
everything about energy, healing and spirituality and what is God
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and what is God to me? And I grew up Catholic.
When I was really little, I would.
Speaker 6 (14:11):
Go to church. I had to go to church every morning.
Speaker 4 (14:12):
I went to Catholic school, and I would get nauseous
every morning, like they'd have to somebody would have to
bring me outside, really little kid, and you know, so
something was there for me that was off, you know,
like I would get so sick being at church. But
I still like was like wanting some kind of faith
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or God or something in my life.
Speaker 6 (14:36):
I was like, what is it for me? You know?
Speaker 4 (14:38):
So I went on this journey of self discovery just
working with all different I would just go, you know,
see different healers just to have the experience to see
what they're doing, and then I would pick up on
what they were doing. Like that was my A big
education for me is just working with you know, hundreds
of healers, and you know, it just took me on
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this extraordinary journey of self discovery and being my best
self and finding God and finding God in me and uh.
And then fast forward, I meet Alexander at a cafe
and he asks me right away my date of birth.
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These source cards that we're going to talk about, you know,
for this time with you, are all based on we
have cards to play based on our date of birth.
And so he asked me my date of birth, and
he starts telling me all about myself in about twenty minutes,
and good, good things and not good things, you know,
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And I was like, wow, you know that that's pretty
you know, some of it was a little confronting, and
I was like, that's a lot, you know that you know,
you know, based on you know, these.
Speaker 6 (15:51):
Cards and my date of birth.
Speaker 4 (15:53):
And we joke that like here I had spent up
until that point, it had been maybe like twenty years
of me on this mission of searching and learning and evolving,
and here he tells me in twenty minutes all of
the things that I've just learned for twenty years, you know.
So it's this magical template that has all this sacred
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information about oneself and it kind of really cuts to
the chase. Actually, so it was pretty mind blowing for
me to learn about the system after having gone on
that journey. And as Alexander said, now what we work
together and we want to shout this information from the rooftops.
Speaker 6 (16:36):
It's just incredibly exciting.
Speaker 5 (16:37):
It's a real vocation for us. We want to get
this information out. This is open source information that nobody
owns or controls. You can go down to your corner
store supermarket and pick up a deck of cards, and
once you know how to read it for yourself, then
you know how to read your life. So it's for
the people, this information, and we want to get it
out for the people to have this information because so
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many people are confused or stuck or hopeless, don't know
what way and looking around at the world around us
and seeing the conflict and the confusion and the chaos.
This is the tool that gives us clear guidance. And
it's so simple. It's much more simple than astrology or
human design or gene keys. I love those systems, I
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studied them all, But what I love about this system
is it's simplicity and it's a tool for the people.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
Well, I love how you too, met in and I'll
have to tell you, VICKI, I'm a long time bachelor.
I'm gonna have to learn these cards because that's a
great pickup line. Hey, let me tell you your birthday
and what you're all about. And yeah, so I like that.
But of course, now let's really dive in more into
this ordinary deck of cards which you call source cards. Well,
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I know there's more detail. He I was looking at
some of your book online on Amazon. You can read
a sample. So if you want to give a little
more details, I'm not very good with math, but I
don't think it's real complicated.
Speaker 5 (18:07):
The math is not complicated. Do you want to do
the math first? And then I'll say why we call
it the source cards.
Speaker 4 (18:14):
Well, first of all, the system is an exact model
of the Earth rotating around the Sun. There are fifty
two cards in the deck. There are fifty two weeks
in the year, four suits, four seasons, thirteen cards in
a suit, thirteen weeks in a season. If you add
up the solar values of each of the cards, so
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the ace equals one, two equals two, three, you know,
three equals three, and then the jack equals eleven, Queen
equals twelve, King equals thirteen. If you add up all
fifty two of those values, you get three hundred and
sixty four. The joker is the fifth element in a
four part system. He equals five over four, which is
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one in quarter. And if you put that into back
into the deck, you get three hundred and sixty five
and a quarter.
Speaker 5 (19:07):
And it's as old as anything we know. People speculate
ancient China, ancient Egypt. Nobody really knows how old this
deck of cards is, but we do know that in
ancient times, books did not have bindings like books of
the Bible, were written on scrolls and parchment, and they
were still known as books. So this little deck that
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we think of as a deck anyway, which accurately represents
the seasons and the cycles of our life on earth,
would have been known in ancient times as a little
book of life. That's what it is. It's a little
book that represents our life on earth. It's a perfect
mapping of the solar calendar. So this is what I
realized in my own research, is that this deck of
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playing cards is none other than the same book of
life that the Bible references many times where we've all
thought that was a symbolic or figurative or allegorical reference,
it's actually a literal reference. In my opinion, the biblical
writers were aware of this ancient text and knew it
as a little book of life. So I believe those
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Biblical references are referencing this deck. When, for example, in
Revelations it says we're all going to stand before the
throne of God and the Book of Life will be
opened and will be judged according to what is written
in this book, I believe it's a direct reference to
these cards as we think of them. So that's also
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why when we're talking about what these cards are. To
answer your question, we realize that the deck this book
represents the source code, the programming language with which our
reality is written. It is very literally, these cards are
the source cards. They show the source code of our reality,
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and so hence the name the source cards.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
You know, it's so interesting, you know, I mean, ninety
nine point nine percent of the people in the world
just look at It's a game, you know. You know,
the high rollers in Vegas are playing with these cards.
I'm going to get a million dollars and they have
no idea that their hand they got the source of
code of their life. In their hands, and so yes,
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you could see how it was well, I guess persecuted,
but literally buried under the surface belief of what these
cards were about. And I wonder if the Church had
anything to do, because we know the Church was so
powerful in suppressing anything that would take away their power.
Speaker 5 (21:41):
Exactly. They called it the Devil's Bible or the Devil's
picture book. That's how this book was referenced. Again, noticed
that it was called a book. It was called the
Devil's Bible or the Devil's picture book. That's how it
was persecuted in the Middle Ages.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
Yeah, yeah, interesting. So yeah, I was going to ask
about their way ahead of me that it was actually
referenced in the Bible. I mean, they don't exactly say
playing cards, but like you said, a book without bindings.
Speaker 5 (22:10):
Actually, yeah, Well, the other place that the reference comes
in is in the opening story, the famous story of
Adam and Eve, the starting point of the entire Sacred Literature,
where Adam and Eve are told that there are two
trees in the garden, the tree of knowledge of good
and evil and the tree of life, and they're told
don't eat from the tree of knowledge of good and evil.
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What's implicitly said is that you do want to eat
from the fruit of the tree of life. We have
a picture of the tree of life behind us. This
is the same proportions as the Kabbalistic tree in the
Flower of Life, if you're familiar with that pattern. When
the tree is planted in the garden, it has the
same exact proportions as this layout of cards behind us,
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overlaid onto the tree of life. What that biblical story
is referring to, among other things, it's a richly layered story,
so it has multiple meanings simultaneously. But one of the
meanings is the tree of knowledge is actually the central
nervous system where you can visualize the spine, the spinal cord,
and then the brain is the flowering. It actually looks
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like a tree. And the idea of the teaching is
same as Buddha's teaching. If you're attached to your thoughts,
you will suffer. So it's actually the same message in
that original Adam and Eve biblical story as Buddha's teaching.
Don't try to work out your life based on your
own thoughts. Don't think that you can think your way
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into an answer. If you do your life is gonna
be miserable, You're gonna suffer. Don't do that. Instead, find
your answers in the Tree of Life, which is again
this layout map of cards that we have behind us
on this poster board. So it's right there in the
beginning of the biblical narrative, and it's right at the
very end in the Book of Revelations, which is interesting
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to me that it's the starting point and the endpoint.
There's this oblique, esoteric reference to the real meaning of
these playing cards.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
Well, and you know, as I mentioned to you even
before we started recording here, I'm a big student, of
course in miracles, and in my mind everything I've studied
over the years, a lot of what you just said
actually is in alignment with of course in miracles and
nonstic spiritual teaching in that you know, don't try to
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force or do everything yourself. Turn to your divine source
and allow him to guide and direct you, and don't
try to make every decision yourself. And in this three
D world, in this form of a body, that's hard
to do, you know. So that's why what you do
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and what I do is important. Absolutely, yeah, absolutely, So
you know, I just want to go back to again
for you, Vicky, being an intuitive healer and energy healer,
how did how when you first found out about the
source cards, how did you fit that into everything that
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you were practicing as a healer.
Speaker 4 (25:17):
Well, one of my favorite topics is like the pit patterns.
So for example, this card is calling me the two
of Hearts. We've taken the numbers off of the cards
so that you can just see this is what's called
a pit pattern. So two hearts on the card, and
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this is a symbol and it has energy. So it's like,
and it just occurred to me when you were talking
about people who are gambling and how they have these
cards in their hands.
Speaker 6 (25:47):
I never thought about.
Speaker 4 (25:48):
It in that way, that they're receiving the energy from
these symbols as they're playing, Like I never even thought
about that. So this is a symbol that as an
energy to it, you know, and that's very attractive to me. Like,
you can meditate with these energies and they show these
pit patterns, show you how to play the cards.
Speaker 6 (26:11):
Well, so the information is in that patterning.
Speaker 3 (26:16):
Okay, that makes sense to me. Yeah, absolutely, it is.
Speaker 5 (26:21):
It is healing to meditate on the patterns, and that's Actually,
to answer your earlier question of how I found this
out and how I learned the information, I meditated on them.
I got a deck of cards from a corner store.
I wided out the corners where you have the number
two or the little heart on the corner, so I
used white out. We've since had our own deck printed
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restored to the sacred geometric proportions. But you could just
get a deck of cards from the supermarket, wipe out
the corners, and then meditate on the symbolic pattern and
the meaning of it will come through to you. What
does the two of hearts mean? Just by meditating on it,
you see the two herds, they're opposite each other, and
there's a space in between that actually tells you what
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you need to know about the two of hearts and
how to play it well. Of course I teach a
lot of classes on this, but there's a simple explanation
and then we can unpack it in a much more
richly detailed, layered meaning as well.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
Well, you know, I went to your website, and anybody
it can just go on and type in their birthday
and find out what their life purpose is. I think
you said that we could maybe do mine and find
out what's going on with Carl here.
Speaker 5 (27:37):
Absolutely, so we looked you up based on your birthday,
and we did the look up here. This is my book,
Play your Cards right, a sacred guide to life on Earth.
And your birth card, Carl, based on your day to
birth is the Six.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
Of Clubs, may yep.
Speaker 5 (27:55):
And then you have as your personality card the six
of Spades. So we all have thirteen cards in our
life path. These first two show the primary patterning of
your life, which is like your life's purpose, and the
secondary patterning, which is how you live your life's purpose,
how you present that purpose to life to the world around.
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And Clubs is the suit of the mind. So your
birth card is the six of Clubs, and the spade
is an acorn, and the acorn is the symbol of
the pineal gland or the third eye. A quick overview
of the four suits for your audience. The suit of
Hearts represents the heart, obviously enough. Clubs is the mind.
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It's a clover, it's a flower, diamond I'm pointing at
my gut represents the physical material layers of life, all
the vibrations of life that have crystallized into a physical form.
Including money, and the spade represents consciousness, symbolizing the pineal gland.
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Because you're born in the Suit of Clubs, you're primarily
a thinker and you orient yourself towards your reality through
your mind, through your intuition, through your knowledge, and the
six has represented us too straight lines for you. It's
about lining up your knowledge and getting thoughts into alignment,
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and that can mean that you're on a mission to
set the record straight, to put straight the ways of
the world. Because everything in our world starts as an idea.
Our world is composed of ideas. Justice is an idea,
democracy is an idea. Money starts as an idea. Everything
starts as an idea. Someone had the idea to make
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this microphone and this computer that we're talking to each
other on. So being born to play the Six of Clubs,
you're here to set the world in alignment with your
own ideas.
Speaker 6 (29:51):
You're here to realign our thinking.
Speaker 3 (29:55):
I'm still working on my own, but you know that
it's everything you say is absolutely true, and you know,
like anybody in my life, I've been out of alignment
and they're still on a daily basis. Moments where I'm
completely out of alignment. But as I've followed my seeking
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to be enlightened and awaken, I have found that I'm
more and more and more in alignment and things with source,
you know, with my life and my purpose. I find
that things just flow easier and effortlessly, you know. Align.
One of page one of course in miracles is there's
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no order of difficulty in miracles, and I think you
find that out as you align with your divine self,
you know, your higher self.
Speaker 5 (30:49):
That's exactly right. The downside of the six of clubs,
which we didn't talk about, is you can get stuck
in a rut. Oh yeah, and you can overthink things,
over nationalize things. It's about again in the visual pattern
shows that space between the two lines of pips. It's
about keeping that space open for yourself so that you
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can channel and easily flow with the information that comes
to you effortlessly, so long as you're willing to receive
it and allow it to shape the direction of your thinking.
Speaker 3 (31:24):
So anybody can just come to you, guys, and go
to your website and have you work with them on
their birthday. Yes, well that's simple, all right. Well, what
is your website again?
Speaker 6 (31:40):
It's TheSource cards dot Com.
Speaker 3 (31:42):
And I will of course list that in the show
notes and everything. Well, I'm interested too. I saw that
you say that the source cards are what you would
call cosmic correspondence. What is that?
Speaker 5 (31:57):
Well, now we're going deep. We are ready to go
down deep in this one.
Speaker 3 (32:02):
I'm not going anywhere. I'm right.
Speaker 5 (32:05):
That's enough about me. Let's talk cosmically. Yeah, yeah, well okay,
So these cards are a fractal map of reality. They're
true at multiple levels simultaneously. So they're true for you
personally they show your life path, but they're also true
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for me. They're true for VICKI all at once simultaneously.
They also are true for us all collectively. They show
all of us collectively how to be in harmony with
each other. They're also true at the level of what
quantum physicists might call string theory. What are the vibrating
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strings that make up reality itself that we know as
so far as I understand it, quantum physicists have proposed
that there are eleven or twelve vibrating strings. I suggest
this is my hypothesis that when they look deeper, they'll
find that reality is composed of thirteen vibrating strings across
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four quadrants leads to the interesting question of somewhere, somehow,
an advanced civilization, way more advanced than ours, figured out
how to map the building blocks of our reality, that
which constructs reality in our space time matrix as we
know it, and we're able to represent that and symbolize
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that in these simple patterns that are so simple that
we don't even think that's what they are. We overanalyze
and overthink so much so that we miss the simplicity
that's present. Leonardo da Vinci said that simplicity is the
ultimate sophistication. Like Einstein's formula equals MC squared. It's such
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a simple formula, but it says so much. These cards
are like that, so simple that it's so easy to
overlook them, and we have for hundreds thousands of years
we've been playing cards and not knowing what we were
playing with. It's a simple map and model of the
very structure of our reality, and it's true on every level, simultaneously,
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in the macrocosm and the microcosm.
Speaker 3 (34:22):
I find that interesting that you say that's some consciousness
or you know, race on an ascended level of map
this out. You know, doing what I do on the show.
I've had many many trance channels bringing through the Pleadians
and Octurnians in the Syrians and so many of that.
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I mean, they're all incredibly wise and claim to be
you know, different dimensions and higher levels, and why not
what you say it sounds plausible to me.
Speaker 5 (34:58):
This is my theory. I don't have proof quote unquote,
but my theory is that this knowledge was given to
us by extraterrestrials. My own hypothesis is that it's the
Mantid beings, but I don't know for sure. You may
know from your other guests that likely human beings are
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hybrid species that were created by the Ananaki. I don't
think the Ananaki were advanced enough to know about the
space time fabric of reality. I think that required a
more advanced set of beings. It could be the Arcturians
or the Mantid beings, that's who I think it is,
either one of those two species that saw the fledgling
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humanity Homo sapiens three hundred thousand years ago or so,
and said we're going to help these people, and we're
going to give them these in this base of information.
What's interesting is if you look at the Samerian myth
the earliest recorded stories that we have of our human history,
they talk about tablets of destiny that were given to
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them by their gods, quote unquote, and at that time
there was no papyrus invented, so this information would have
been on some kind of tablet. And so I find
that interesting that our earliest recorded mythology speaks of gods
giving tablets of wisdom.
Speaker 3 (36:23):
And you also mentioned something called the living matrix. Is
this pretty much what we're talking about already?
Speaker 5 (36:30):
It is we're living inside of it. Inside of this
living matrix, we live and move and have our being.
It's not alien to us. It's not like the movie
The Matrix, where it's somehow a machine imposed matrix that's
antithetical to our humanity. This is a matrix of being
that supports our humanity, that encodes our humanity. And the
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way that we know that's true, and I've seen it
and we've seen it in our practice, is that when
you start to consciously play your cards right, you get
the blessings of life. The right people show up, you
meet your soul me as I did in my story
of testing everyone's birthdate when I met them. We see
people in their career, they suddenly get a promotion because
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it's all energy and we're vibrating energy frequencies. As Vicky said,
each of these represents a vibrational frequency. When you start
vibrating in alignment with your core signature pattern as represented
in these source cards, then you put yourself energetically in
the right place in the right time to receive all
the blessings of your life. That's how we know that
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this is a living matrix that serves us and supports us.
It's a benevolent matrix, and that we can rest assured
that it's not some kind of alien matrix imposed on
us for ill will.
Speaker 3 (37:52):
Wow, who knew, even knowing what I know, that a
deck of cards is so powerful and has such an
in the history. Well, Maya's come to visit, my buddy,
Maya don't. But anyway, let's shift gears for a moment
and go back to your book, Play your Cards right,
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A Sacred Guide to life on Earth? How did that
writing come about for you? I mean, was your way
just to bring this to the world and help people
understand it?
Speaker 5 (38:25):
Well, thank you, it was a good question. This is
an introductory level book that I wrote now six seven
years ago. Bicky keeps telling me to write a new
book with more of my advanced ideas, and that's kind
of on my docket to do. I wrote this actually
because I didn't see a good introductory level book out there.
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So this is intended to be an introduction for people.
And since then we together put the website together, the
sourcecards dot Com. The sourcecards dot Com also functions like
an introduction, but it's interactive. It's digital. You can plug
in your data birth and get an instant reading of
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your birth card. So the book was intended as an introduction,
and then we teach more advanced material in our classes.
And I am going to soon write another book as
soon as I can. We have a lot going on,
but I would like to write another book with some
of this advanced content we're talking about today.
Speaker 4 (39:23):
There are people who use this system to predict the future,
and I would say that most people that who do
know about the cards are using it as a predictory
kind of system, like you know, what's your destiny, what's
going to happen to you next year or next week
kind of thing. And Alexander has gone in a completely
different direction of like this system is to empower yourself,
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to empower yourself to make choices to have a fulfilling life,
but to not be like, oh, what's going to happen
to me? Then like I'm a victim of circumstance or
something has happened to me. It's you are creating your
life through the awareness of knowing your cards to play
and then playing your cards. Well, so it's a very
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different way of looking at it. And he channeled a
lot of the information on like pit patterns and on
these sacred sacred images. Uh and and then you know,
the book is a very basic overview of the life
path of cards that we have to play and what
that what each one means. And then you know, the
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high side low side of things as you you know,
maybe you saw that on the website. That's when you
you know, go to the website to look up your
cards to play, you'll see a very basic overview of
like the high side and low side of each card
to play, and so you have a choice of how
to play it, you know, And we're not victims. We
create our reality with what we believe and the choices that.
Speaker 3 (40:54):
We make, you know, I'm really glad you explain that,
because I mean, okay, I give those cards and I
look up my birthday. Okay, cool, now what but but
you can you can use those cards. How can you
predict predict the future with it?
Speaker 4 (41:13):
Well, we have cards in play, like, for example, you
know there's a personal daily card. There's a card that's
in play for fifty two days. There's a card that's
in play for a whole year for an individual.
Speaker 6 (41:25):
Right.
Speaker 4 (41:25):
So I remember when I first learned this system, I
had a reading with someone and they told me about
my cards for.
Speaker 6 (41:32):
The year and my yearly. My yearly card was the.
Speaker 4 (41:37):
Ace of Spades, and the Ace is about initiating new
beginnings and also endings. Spades are about consciousness, and it
could represent the ending of things, the death of something,
the death of people perhaps. But this person really alluded
to that like that this year, well, oh this year
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looks like you know, you might lose somebody.
Speaker 6 (42:00):
Really important to you.
Speaker 4 (42:01):
You know, well that whole year, like in the back
of my mind there was this energy of like, oh God,
like or one are my parents gonna die?
Speaker 6 (42:11):
Or what's going to happen?
Speaker 4 (42:12):
Or a good friend or you know, like a fear
around it, and it was like this low grade fear
kind of just hovering over me because of someone telling
me about like a card and play for my whole year,
like a predictory kind of thing. And in the end
it turned out that I let go. There was some
endings to my belief systems, to what I believed about life,
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to what I believed about even like predicting things.
Speaker 6 (42:36):
You know, Oh wait a minute, you know, like I just.
Speaker 4 (42:39):
Put my energy into someone else's hands who told me something.
Speaker 6 (42:44):
You know, that's not very empowering, you know.
Speaker 4 (42:47):
So that's just an example of how like, you know,
people can get go down a rabbit hole of like
you know, when will I meet someone?
Speaker 6 (42:54):
When will this happen?
Speaker 4 (42:55):
And you know, it's just it's not listen, I'm not
like say and that that's a bad thing. A lot
of people like that it works for them. That's not
what we're doing, you know. That's not how we're wanting
to teach this or that's not the knowledge we're bringing
out into the world.
Speaker 6 (43:11):
You know.
Speaker 4 (43:12):
It's about empowering oneself and utilizing the energy.
Speaker 5 (43:17):
Yeah, so I mentioned we have cards for life. I
also mentioned it's a fractal system. You have cards for
your whole life. We talked about your first card and
your life path to six of Clubs, and then each
year you get delta new handed cards based on esoteric math.
So these cards, your yearly cards, you could think of
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like your transits and astrology roughly similar. And what people
do to predict the future is they'll look the same
as you could do in astrology. Oh I see in
seven months you have this planet coming into this house.
It's going to mean this for you. People can do
the same thing with these cards. Oh I see that
your yearly card coming up is the Ace of Spades.
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This was a Vicki's example. Oh, the Asis Bades. That
could mean someone's going to die. And Vicky did not
have that experience, but it was mildly traumatic for her
to be worried all year if someone was going to die.
When I first learned these cards, that's how I learned them.
I learned them as a tool to make predictions of
what's coming in your year. But what I realized quite
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quickly is that actually these are symbols that represent the
vibratory field that is all around us and in us
and through us in any moment, right now, in this
present moment. They give us a lens with which to
see our reality more clearly. It's a little bit like
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a meditative mindfulness practice, where in a meditative mindfulness instruction
you might be told be mindful of your thoughts, watch
your thoughts, and that's a tool to help you gain
more consciousness and more awareness. It's exactly the same with
these cards. Watch the patterns, see what's present. Oh, I'm
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born to play the six o'clocks, which you are. Let
me see how this is playing out right now in
this moment. How am I aligning my thoughts in this moment?
Or maybe I'm not aligning my thoughts. Am I getting
stuck in my thoughts? Or am I opening a channel
of thoughts? It gives you a way to watch what's
happening in the present moment because you are not your cards,
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play your cards, and for lack of a better word,
you're a soul. You're a soul playing a human game.
And these cards show you the patterns that are present
right now. And the main important difference that Vicky's alluding
to is if you're trying to predict predict the future,
then you are literally going out of the present and
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you're obsessed about some future outcome, and the future doesn't exist.
The future is a concept, it's not reality. So by
trying to predict a future, sure you go out of
the present moment, where the present moment is all that's real.
The only thing we have is the present moment. It's
trying to predict the future takes you out of presence,
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it takes you out of awareness. It's actually disempowering. It's
radically disempowering. So what we're teaching and what we want
people to realize, is that this is a toolkit for
awakening in the present moment.
Speaker 3 (46:23):
You know. And again, everything you're saying is an alignment.
You know. Ecker totally says there's only now. Of course,
in miracles says there's only the eternal, holy instant. But
you know, I find it interesting too, Vicky. You said
that you know, which we know well, especially those of
us who study this, that we create our own reality.
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So in your case, when somebody said, oh somebody might
it might die, it says it right here. You know,
you grab onto it and you got disempowered by it,
you know, and dwell on it. You're going to create
that reality, right.
Speaker 4 (47:00):
And instead I could look to the positive side of
what the Ace of Speeds is and I could say, oh,
this year, I have this Ace of Speeds energy on
my side, and I can utilize this energy to my benefit.
And the Ace of Spades is about initiating new consciousness.
So what new consciousness do I want to initiate this year?
Speaker 6 (47:24):
And that's empowering.
Speaker 5 (47:25):
It's the difference between seeing that we hold the cards
and we can choose how we want to play them,
versus the cards or some kind of predestination faded outcome
that's going to happen to us that we have no
control over. And that's unfortunately, what we see of people
who do the card readings using the predictive kind of
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approach to reading the cards is they implicitly deny your
free will and they implicitly deny your ability to create
your own reality.
Speaker 3 (47:55):
You know, this may be offline, but is there any
similarity to this in tarot cards?
Speaker 5 (48:04):
Yes, and no. They are completely different instruments of knowledge.
They seem like they would be related. People who like
to row cards like to think that these cards are
a derivative of the minor arcana. And I don't like
to run a foul of the teruot enthusiast enthusiasts, because
people really love their tarot, and I've had some fabulous
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terro readings over the years. But these cards represent, as
I said, the building blocks of reality, the space time matrix.
Theteruot cards represent the archetypal stories of humanity. They show
us the patterns of human behavior. These cards show us
that building blocks that build those stories, the sacred geometric
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patterns that go into building the archetypal stories. These cards
are prior and before too cards. Again, enthusiasts would see
it the reverse. But we know that these cards have
to be older and deeper than to row cards because
they're buried deeper in the recesses of our consciousness. If
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you were to excavate, you go to an archaeological site,
and you're excavating the layers and layers of the civilization.
Which is the oldest layer of the civilization. It's the
one that's buried deepest. The real meaning of these playing
cards has been buried far deeper than the meaning of
toro cards. That's actually how we know that they're older,
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because they're buried. The truth of them is buried far deeper.
Speaker 3 (49:36):
Wow, this is just absolutely fascinating, you know, and to
be honest, you know, this is new to me source cards,
but also I don't really have much knowledge of tarot cards,
so I was just wondering. I was going to go
back for a moment. Vicky, I'm just curious. I know
this is kind of out of sequence here, But you're
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an intuitive healer. Is that you were born with that.
I've had intuitive healers on here. I had Wendy Adams
on and she's a medical intuitive healer and I always
having an issue with my ear and I didn't even
tell her and she did a healing on it, you know,
on the show. I mean, can you do stuff like that?
Speaker 6 (50:17):
Yeah? So I was intuitive very young age.
Speaker 4 (50:20):
I just knew things and then about people, about interactions,
about things that were going to happen. And then it
wasn't until that time where I did that healing with
that specific healer when I had the issue the medical issue.
Is that that really got me going into that direction
to be a healer, and I honed my skills, I
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would say, you know, really tapping in more and more
to my abilities to connect with the energy to allow
I like to say like I connect with God and
allow the energy to just wash through me and facilitate.
Speaker 6 (50:57):
I'm the facilitator intention.
Speaker 4 (51:01):
So if this person wants to heal and whatever they
tell me that they're focusing on that they want to heal,
it's like I hold that intention with them and allow
the energy to move, allow the energy.
Speaker 6 (51:11):
To clear that doesn't serve the person anymore.
Speaker 4 (51:13):
Through the intention, helping people let go of the belief
systems that they have about themselves, other people, and life,
which I do feel is the root of the imbalances
of issues of medical, issues of physical, issues of mental, emotional,
you know, imbalances. It's all stems from what people believe,
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you know. So I really, you know, started to like
meditation is you know, is a big big part of
it for me.
Speaker 6 (51:42):
I do long distance healings.
Speaker 4 (51:43):
I can just kind of tune into somebody's energy field
as soon as I close my eyes, like I can
go there. And one of the one of the things
actually that that really got me to do it as
I was on that journey of learning was I had
a friend of mine say to me that her son
was having nightmares, he was terrified to sleep, he was
having terrible nightmares, and.
Speaker 6 (52:05):
She said to me, I know you can do it.
I know you can just clear the nightmares. Just do it.
And I was like okay.
Speaker 4 (52:11):
So I went into a meditation and I connected with
him and I asked for Source God to give him
a healing to clear whatever was happening for him, like
why whatever the root was of him having nightmares. And
I saw all this energy like in on my mind screen,
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like I could see it on like as if you
like were if I said to you, imagine you're on
the beach right now.
Speaker 6 (52:37):
That's how I see things.
Speaker 4 (52:38):
I just it's like in my imagination on my mind screen,
I see all this energy just moving out of his
energy body. I see his energy and then I see
like this dark energy and I see all this energy
moving out and then I see all this light and
surrounded in light, and I was.
Speaker 6 (52:54):
Like, Okay, that looks good. It's done. So I said, okay,
I did it, you know, to my friend, and that
was it. He never had them again.
Speaker 3 (53:03):
Wow. You know, I find it interesting you said that
you look at yourself as a facilitator, because that's so funny.
That's how I see myself as a facilitator.
Speaker 2 (53:12):
You know.
Speaker 3 (53:13):
I have guests who had these amazing cosmic you know,
kundolinea awakenings and everything, And I'm just sitting here tapping
a pencil. Okay, I'm just letting people this come through
me too, so people could know. But while we've been
having an absolutely amazing, mind blowing conversation with Alexander Dunlop
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and Vicky Scuderi, you guys are amazing. Thank you for
being on the show. I just want to check in
with you now. On your website. I see that you
guys you'll do one on one work with people. But
are you I think I saw you doing workshops and
things online too.
Speaker 5 (53:50):
Like what, Yeah, we do. We teach classes, we have
group programs, we have individual programs. We have a community
of people who are playing along every day and what
we call the daily game. Every day there are cards
to play. So for instance, as of recording the show,
on the day we're recording it, it's a ten of
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club's day today. Somebody born today, this is their birth card.
The rest of us are passing through this energy frequency
just for the day, and we will experience that energy
just for the day. So it's why people have similar
experiences on the same day. I can't believe what kind
of day I had. I can't believe what kind of
day I had. We're all passing through the same energy frequency.
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So we've created a program for people to play along
every day in community and play the game of life
literally every single day.
Speaker 3 (54:42):
Wow. Amazing And once again your website is.
Speaker 6 (54:47):
So it's TheSource cards dot com.
Speaker 4 (54:50):
And I would recommend obviously starting by entering the birthday
and seeing your first two cards to play, and then
to go deeper getting Alexander's book, where you know, that's
the overview of all the thirteen you know plus cards
in one's life path, which shows the different aspects of
one's humans being human being, like the challenges and the
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gifts and the shadow sides, like it's all in there,
you know. So the book is a great place to start.
Speaker 3 (55:20):
Absolutely, this has just been over the moon, wild and crazy,
a beautiful information. I love it, and I thank you
for blessing us and having you two here on World Awakenings.
Speaker 5 (55:33):
Thank you so much for having us. Thank you for
doing what you're doing. It's we feel so important for
the world to awaken to what else there could be.
We need answers from different levels we need to switch
the paradigm up. We need to awaken to what's possible,
and so thank you for what you're doing.
Speaker 4 (55:52):
Well, Thank you, Carl, because to me, you are absolutely
playing your cards right, because you are a channel, a
channel of wisdom, a channel of consciousness, holding the space
for people and being a facilitator as you said, So
thank you and thank you for.
Speaker 3 (56:07):
Having us well. I love that when I'm sitting there
and drinking a beer tonight, man, I'm a channel on wisdom.
Speaker 5 (56:14):
You can be drinking the beer.
Speaker 6 (56:17):
I love that.
Speaker 1 (56:30):
This has been another episode of World Awakenings, the Fast
Track to Enlightenment with host Carl Gruber, a certified Law
of Attraction life coach. We welcome you to tune in
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fact that the world's population is now more than ever
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awakening to the truth of all things spiritual, metaphysical and
enlightening and just how much they play an all important
role in our moment to moment daily life. Much love
and light to you, my friend, and thank you for
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