April 21, 2025 • 59 mins
What an incredible story our guest, Justin Shaw shares with us on episode #202 of World Awakenings! Justin is now known as a mystical comedian, Doctor of Divinity, and a Sourcerer passionate about empowering people to reclaim their self-worth and manifest their highest potential, but this all came following his long battle with substance abuse, PTSD, depression and anxiety disorders. Justin was a former stand-up comedian who experienced firsthand the redeeming power of Source energy after an incredible connection with Divine Bliss; One he will never forget! Justin is the author of the book “Sourcery 101: 13 Rungs to a Higher Elevation of Consciousness”, a new system designed for Sourcing a spiritual revolution. Justin's story will make you realize that you should never give up hope at creating the beautiful, healthy life you desire, no matter how bad things may seem to be right now!
If you want to ask Dr. Glen Swartwout (The Wizard of Wellness) a health related question, please email your question to kwgruber@yahoo.com
Also, if you want to purchase any of Dr. Glen's natural healing remedies, go to his web page, https://www.remedymatch.com/ and make sure to apply the code AWAKE to recieve an instant 10% discount!
To find out more about our guest, Justin Shaw, head on over to his Instagram page https://www.instagram.com/sourcerer_13/
And if you would like a copy of Justin Shaw's book, "Sourcery 101:13 Rungs to a Higher Elevation of Consciousness" just click this link.
If you want to ask Dr. Glen Swartwout (The Wizard of Wellness) a health related question, please email your question to kwgruber@yahoo.com
Also, if you want to purchase any of Dr. Glen's natural healing remedies, go to his web page, https://www.remedymatch.com/ and make sure to apply the code AWAKE to recieve an instant 10% discount!
To find out more about our guest, Justin Shaw, head on over to his Instagram page https://www.instagram.com/sourcerer_13/
And if you would like a copy of Justin Shaw's book, "Sourcery 101:13 Rungs to a Higher Elevation of Consciousness" just click this link.
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
This is World Awakenings, the Fast Track to Enlightenment with
your host Carl Gruber. World Awakenings is a podcast dedicated
to opening your mind, your heart, and your eyes to
the fact that the world's population is now more than
ever awakening to all things spiritual, metaphysical and enlightening and
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daily life. So join Carl on this enlightening experience as
he interviews metaphysical and spiritual experts to discuss, debate, and
delve deeply into the house and whis of this world
wide awakening.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
World Awakenings is super excited to add this new feature
to each show as we welcome doctor Glenn Swartwold, known
as the Wizard of Wellness, to answer any and all
health related questions in his suggestion and how to heal
it in a natural and healthy manner.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
Now Here is this week's health question.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
One physical problem that plagues many many people throughout the
world is a ringing sound in their ears and their
head called tenetus. What causes this ringing sound and what
treatment do you suggest for this?
Speaker 4 (01:23):
So the cause in Western conventional medicine, they mainly associate
the cause with hearing loss about ninety percent of the time.
But to me, that's not an answer of cause, that's
an association. It means that it's doing damage. And yes,
it's highly associated with loss of hearing over time when
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you have a chronic tenatus issue, I'd say more the
underlying root cause as we look at it in natural medicine,
is inflammation, a problem with lack of nutrition and circulation
to the area and lack of certain nutrients. There's deficiencies
of B twelve and zinc are strongly associated with it.
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Aging related in most cases, so we know that we
lose in forty years of aging, we lose thirty percent
of the quality of circulation to our tissues. So decrease
in quality of nutrition and detoxification of the tissues is
definitely related. Now, from an oriental medicine perspective, we get
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a whole additional view that to me is crucial because
you know, again the Western view, it's like we're just
looking at the inner ear, not really thinking about the
rest of the body. That's a whole other specialty, right,
But in orient medicine, as soon as we hear tinatuves
ear problems, hearing problems, the first thing we think is, oh,
what's wrong with the kidneys. Again, we wouldn't have a
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clue about that from Western medicine. But the ears are
associated with the kidneys like the eyes are with the liver.
So we could go into depth on how that's related
to other things and consciousness, but to keep it short
and to the point to have a quick answer of
what's the first thing you might think of to begin
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to help that to support it. What I found in
measuring the acupuncture meridians for thirty forty years is when
the kidney meridian is showing stress. I was at first
very surprised that maybe ninety percent of the time we
could balance it by bringing in microbiome, a broad spectrum
of the healthy flora, the beneficial bacteria that lived throughout
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the body, but especially intestines. So an oral supplement of
a broad spectrum microbiome. I've formulated one called microbiome. Easy
to remember if you know what microbiome is. It has
over thirty different species, because we should have thousands of species.
And actually, one of the first things that I've seen
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before tinatus shows up, or before almost any chronic degenerative
or aging related condition shows up, is a loss of
health and vibrance of the microbiome. It's called the second
immune system. And if we think about inflammation from sort
of a Western science perspective, inflammation is regulated by the
immune system, and it's actually a function of the immune
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system in order to detoxify the tissues. So why, you know,
why is the immune system trying to detoxify the ears
if it's connected to the kidney meridian the kidney the
situation in the kidney. Kidneys are the main high pressure
filter to clean the blood. But where do toxins come
from that are in the blood, mainly from the large intestine,
and that's where the microbiome is going to act to
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clean up the gut so that the rest of the body,
including the ears, can be happier, healthier restore function.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Wow, what an incredible, beautiful answer some things that we
all need to think about. If you have that issue,
take a listen to what doctor Glenn said. So we
hope you enjoy this feature on natural and Healthy Treatments
and Healing with a Wizard of Wellness.
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Doctor Glenn's workwout.
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Welcome to the show World Awakening. It's a fast track
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more than ever, are the people of the world awakening
to all things spiritual, metaphysical and enlightening. I'm your host,
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and see World Awakenings right there. So with that, today
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on episode number two O two, we check in with
Justin Shaw, who is known as a mystical comedian, doctor
of divinity and a sourcerer passionate about empowering people to
reclaim their self worth and manifest the highest potential. Now,
following a long battle with substance abuse, PTSD, depression and
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anxiety disorders, Justin, a form of stand up comedian, experienced
firsthand the redeeming power of source energy. After an incredible experience,
he will never forget. Justin is author of the new
book Sorcery one oh one thirteen runs to a higher
elevation of consciousness, a new system designed for sourcing a
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spiritual revolution. And by the way, Justin Spell's Sorcery, soo
you are cry and we'll find out about that in
a little bit.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
So with that, welcome the World Awakenings, Justin.
Speaker 5 (07:42):
Thank you. It's great to be here.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
Love it, oh man, I'm so grateful.
Speaker 5 (07:46):
Man.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
You you look like you have a pretty interesting story
and a lot of beautiful things to share with the world.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
But you know, my viewers know.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
I like to establish a base with my customers and
find out more about them, and well, man, it sounds
like you had one heck of a rough rider earlier
in your life with a substance abuse, PTSD, depression, et cetera.
Why did your earlier life follow this crazy path?
Speaker 5 (08:12):
Well, yeah, that's that's yeah, that's a good that's a
good starting point.
Speaker 6 (08:16):
So, you know, when you the household I grew up in,
I believe we're all born just a you know, clean slate,
and you know our environments.
Speaker 5 (08:27):
Everyone is kind of a reflection, a walking reflection of
the environment they were raised in. So, you know, when
I was growing up, there was I just grew up.
My parents did the best job they could. They did,
you know, the same job that their parents did, which
was I mean, I essentially grew up in what was
an emotional vacuum. There was just there was no discussion
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about anything involving feelings or emotions or any sort of
sensitive subjects anything at all. There's uh, it was just
it truly was like you say, it was, it was
like fight club in my household. You know, the first
rule is you don't talk about your feelings, and the
second rule is you don't talk about your feelings. How
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it was, it was like and That's just just how
it was there. So there was no you know, communication
that you know, I was loved or valued or important
or safe or any of these things. And so when
a child grows up, they now are looking to the
world for love, validation, and safety, and the world is
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You're always going to tell them they are unsaved, unloved,
and unvaluable. So that is exactly what happened with me,
and that just led to a lot of struggle. My
old twenties was just struggle. I mean it was just drugs,
alcohol and just how do I how do I keep
this high going? So that led to a lot, you know,
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that led to you know, to spend nights in jails
of course, in rehabs, halfway houses and park benches, you know.
I mean, it's just my twenties was not fun time
at all. So, you know, there's there's two types of trauma.
There's you know, capital T trauma, which is big kind
of knee jerking events and physical abuse, sexual views, things
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like that. You know, I've I've had some shares of
big T trauma, but lower T trauma is this slow
burn kind of neglectful trauma. That and that's what I
went through so it just it caused a lot of problems.
But you know, I wouldn't go back and change anything
because it's made me now who I am. So yeah, yeah,
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that's that's that's what got me to the you know,
the depths of the mired in addiction, Presa.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
That's that's interesting because I'm guessing that much of the
world has this so what did you say, lowercase T trauma?
Uh in the world, and we carry that in our
hip pocket and and manifests in these other things things
like addictions and everything. But you know, I've only had
a chance to read, you know, the sample on Amazon
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of your book, and whoa your your stint into rehab
and stuff was quite amazing.
Speaker 5 (11:13):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, And that's and I've been there. You know,
I've been to rehab five different times. And the book
has a really fun opening story of my rehab experience
with hip hop legend DMX, which is, you know, I
had to open the book with something really really fun.
It's going to get people and and I had a
really comedic take on it. I used to stand up
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comedy back in the day when I was doing more drugs,
because I found out once I kind of got sober.
These atmospheres of comedy clubs and things just weren't really
healthy for me. They were very triggering and so and
I had this anxiety that was just insane that would
not go away that I relied on. Especially I love
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prescription pills. That was my drug of choice, where you know,
but stimulant spins of diaz a, the ex opiates, and
then alcohol those were my my big ones. I've I've
tried straight level drugs and had my stats with all
of them, but those that's what really grabbed me, with
those those things. So without those things, I realized I
just I gave up on the whole comedy thing. And
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and so but now I get to, you know, kind
of work that whole my that whole comedy side to
me in and it's really exciting. I get, you know,
I I see a lot of spiritual teachers out there,
and I see comedians and and and it's going to
be very fun to kind of meld those two things together.
And that's that's what I want to The book is
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just the seed I hope to grow into a career tree.
So I'd love to go on kind of tours and things.
I can't be a straight up comedian because I want
to make people laugh and laugh, think and feel. Most
people in comedy clubs just want to laugh. So so
it's I'm kind of creating a whole new thing. I
want people that are interested in in inking and feeling
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along with laughing. So it's it's it's gonna be interesting
where this goes.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
Well, I'm just curious one more thing about the comedian thing.
What led you to pursue the stand up comedian career thing?
Did you just find out you had the ability to
make people laugh with your sense of humor?
Speaker 5 (13:19):
Yeah, you know, I grew up you know, this emotional vacuum.
I you know, the television was not my babysitter. It
was a full time parent. And so I grew up
during you know the nineties when there were so many
funny movies coming out, just just loads, you know, they
carrying them Sandor Fits, Barley and all these people, and
and I just and the SNL was kind of in
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a golden period in the nineties there, you know, Will
Ferrell and you know, Jimmy Fallon and all these people,
and so it was just that's what I gravitated towards
because that's what made me feel good. So like before
drugs and alcohol, it was comedy and so and the
Simpsons on another huge influence on me. Those ninety Simpsons
are just amazing, and I just realized I could, you know,
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I could do voices, I could imitate pretty well, and
I can also make people laugh, which also made the
pain go away. So it was not only so I
was getting, you know, laughter coming in and out, and
then I was making other people laugh, and that also
was feeding me and giving me kind of relief from
my pain. So that's where the comedy had come from.
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It was just I love to laugh, and I love
to make people laugh even more than I love to
make myself laugh. Well, it kind of happens together.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
Yeah, well you can do voices.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
Maybe you can do voiceover for the Simpsons or South
Park or something.
Speaker 5 (14:38):
Yeah, I'm actually I'm doing the I'm recording the audio
for the book now. And there's a lot of places
I get to I get to I get to do
my voices. So I'm it's it's it's gonna be a
different kind of audio book for sure, and it's you know,
I've it should be out probably within the next month
or so. I should be done with it. But it's
really fun recording the audio. It's frustrating a one time,
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but you know, like you gotta got to make sure
it's all perfect and everything. But getting getting the chance
to you know, showcase my impressions and voices is a
lot of fun.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
Oh that's very cool. Now I'm we're gonna dive a
little bit more into things. But one last thing. I'm
curious about. Your big fan of rap music and culture.
What is it about that that attracts you.
Speaker 5 (15:20):
Yeah, it's that's another one of those things. It's just
a music that I gravitated towards in that time period,
you know, and it was also one of those things
that made me forget I was in pain. It's just
it was, you know, kind of in the nineties are
that's when rapt really started taking off, and I was
really big into basketball. Basketball and hip hop kind of
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go hand in hand together. So those things are are
big influences on my life, you know, basketball and hip hop.
So it's it's I like all kinds of music, except
for a country. I'm just not it's not into that,
but but I love all types of music and just anything. Recently,
I've made this incredible kind of playlist that I walk
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around to with scores from movies because I'm trying to
project myself in my own movie. So I'll go on
a walk with the scores from movies and Hans Zimmer
and John Williams and Danny Elfman and these amazing you
know people that score these movies, and it puts me
to the setting that I am in a movie and
am i am. I am the narrator of my own movie.
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So I'm trying to Morgan Freeman my way through my
life right now.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
I think my soundtrack is like a spaghetti western like
Clint Eastwood used to do for those soundtracks, which were
pretty crazy. So you ended up with all this addictions
and everything, rehab and all that. But I'm really interested
to hear about this encounter with what you call source
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energy and the profound effect it had on you.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
What happened and.
Speaker 5 (16:53):
How Yeah, that was very That's the moment that everything changed. Right.
So I was at the time, I was working with
a shaman and I was kind of doing uh I
was I was getting introduced to meditation as well as
shadow work, which is one of the rungs. So there's
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rungs as opposed to you know, steps steps, moving forward
is good, but moving up is better because the bird
has a better perspective thing with than the word. So
one of the first rugs is shadow work. I was
doing a lot of that, kind of going through some
false beliefs and you know, asking myself what do I
believe about myself and about the world around me, and
also doing meditation at the same time. So one day
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I just, you know, after doing this kind of work,
I was coming home and I wasn't even meditating at
the time. I was just I was stretching after a workout,
and all of a sudden, I had this. I've had
panic attacks in my whole life, but this was this
was This was a bliss attack. This there was It
was an onset of just love out of nowhere, just
out of nowhere. Drug free there was. There was no
drugs at this time, so there's no there's absolutely no
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scientific reason for this happening. Completely sober. So it kind
of came on and I just felt was like, oh
my gosh, something is happening, and it overcame me and
I went and I lied down in my bed and
for three hours I was in a state of complete bliss,
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just total at peace with everything. And at the same time,
I was getting kind of downloads and truths about the
illusionary nature of things and how things work and how
societally we're completely missing the mark, you know, like all
these things, and I knew they were truths because of
how I was feeling. So I was given this, you
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know that they weren't just thoughts. There was this extreme, amazing,
blissful feeling and the thought and I realized, my whole life,
I've been in airplane mode, my whole life. I mean,
when you you know, when you go and get on airplane,
you turn on airplane mode and it blocks all the
signals and everything from coming into your phone. So you know,
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a phone perpetually on an airplane mode is not living
up to its potential. And that's what I realized, and
that's what it was for me, And I realized that
the vast majority of people are as well in airplane mode,
just going through life is kind of programmed things without
really having any idea of who they are or what
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is going on. So that was the moment, and I
realized that, you know, if you were to explaining this
a very devoutent because you know, going up to you know,
like if you were to take a fork and stick
in an outlet and experience that shock of electricity. You know,
try to explaining to that to someone that lives in
the Jungles and the Amazon. It's it's not easy to do. Like,
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you know, in an electric shocked you know, they're not
going to have any concept or idea, so me explaining
it is difficult. But I realized that, you know, explaining
source energy is like explaining water to a fish. You know,
It's it's like it's it's like what do you you know,
It's like, well, you're surrounded by this substance and it
and it keeps you alive, and it keeps you moving
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and going, and like explaining that to a fish is
really difficult. And that's the same with source energy. It's
it's it is a consciousness field that can be tapped into.
This book came not from my ability to think I'm
I'm not as nearly as smart as this book says.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
I am.
Speaker 5 (20:27):
I know, I'm a sea pleasant student on a good day.
I you know, just recently figured out how to spell
the word business. I'm you know, I'm not anything unique,
but I tapped into this information field that is around
us at all times and realize that the brain is
the receiver. There's no information or really anything stored in
the brain. It's it's the receiver that you can tap
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into this energy field that surrounds us at all time.
And I realized I had been I was like, I
was like the fish in the pond, you know, like
did the fish in this pond or you know, and
it's swimming around and that's the world that knows it's
just this little pond, and then one day it gets
caught by an angler and pulled out to this magnificent,
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insane world. You know that there's lots of ponds, there's oceans,
there's there's this whole other world that this fish never
knew about. And that's that's. This experience that happened to
me was it's quite a shock, and but an amazing,
fantastic shock. I call it my You know that a
lot of these people go through near death experiences where
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they kind of go through something similar that you know,
changes them. I didn't die or even was close to it,
So this is my near life experience, Like this is
what you know, this is what's coming. You know, this
is what's coming after after life. So and it's pretty magical.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
Well, this this experience of bliss or source energy. I
guess many people call that like a Kundalini awaknings, you
know I mean, and that it's almost become like a
generic term for you know, a spiritual awakening. But so
you had this experience, and then you recently published this
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book Sorcery one on one thirteen wrongs to a higher
elevation of consciousness. Why do you spell sorcery that way?
And what are the thirteen wrongs?
Speaker 5 (22:15):
Yeah, so I had this experience and I was still
kind of off and on and going through going. I
had some really tough things happened during this time period.
I lost my mother, I lost my sister, I lost
a close childhood friend. I had a former fiance leave
me with my infant son and move across the country
and just cut me out and just change your number
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and just gone. I haven't seen him in two and
a half years. So I had a lot of really
hard things to go through. And this was causing you know,
back and forth going between the drugs and going you know,
like so for a couple of years, the whole source
experience happened about four years ago, but for two years
I was still kind of struggling. But in the last
two years I really have gotten things together and started
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my healing and and you know, just let myself start
to heal. And this book is very meta in the
fact that you know, like I am, I am healing
myself writing these things. I'm getting these these amazing things happening.
So I'm writing and helping myself, but also creating something
that I realize now that could you know, help a
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lot of people. I mean it, you know, these concepts
and ideas go back until the beginning of time. They're ancient,
but I've just recycled them through humor and my subconscious
and pop more pop culture and made something that is
relatable now for you know. So it's it has changed
the world potential. It's like going to but these you know,
it's nothing new. It's just I just filtered it and
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made it something fresh. So sorcery is filled with a
you because again, this is not about you know, uh,
wizards and cauldrons and put in roads and I have
newt right, Like, it's it's not that kind of sorcery.
It is you know, s o U r C SOO
source energy to use that to create a you know,
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a thriving new life, you know, And there's it. I
was just thinking about, you know, like how do I
I've had I'm having all this stuff go through my
mind and it's like, okay, I can really make something
special here? How do I do it? And that's when
it kind of source of guided me to these runs
because I had been through AA and AA is is
(24:28):
is great on on some levels for me, leaving behind
A is essentially you know, disguise Christianity a little bit
and I'm not saying anything new. And for me, you know,
leaving Christianity behind, you know, part of it's a very
paradoxical thing. You know, part of having leaving religion behind
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is what helped me have a true religious experience. So
you know, but I used AA. It can be very helpful,
but can also be disempowering because you're powerless human beings
separate from God instead of an absolute reflection of Divine
it self. So but I use that the twelve steps
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and kind of like well, you know, like you know,
steps are good, moving forward is good, but moving up
is better. So there's thirteen for a very specific reason,
and that is because thirteen in America here is for
some reason. Well I kind of looked it up, but
it's considered unlucky to the point where there's no thirteenth
(25:31):
floor on hotels here, right, It's absolutely ridiculous. And I
kind of looked it up, and supposedly it came from
there's there's thirteen people at the Last Supper, and Judas
was considered the thirteenth person, So thirteen the un lucky.
So it just is a complete fallacy and crap. Thirteen
is actually a number of the divine and will bring
good luck and prosperity to those who embrace it. So
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part of sorcery is kind of looking at those beliefs.
So thirteen is a good representation of, you know, looking
at things that may not be true, things that we
hold true that may not be true. So thirteen, and
there's thirteen of them, and you know, I can't get
in all of them over the hour, but I can,
I can. I've I've got a memorize now. So shadow
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work a call for inaction, surrender to serenity, help as wealth,
emotional alchemy, comfort and discomfort, attention to intention, goats over sheep,
follow your bliss, rose colored contacts, instinct versus intuition, the chakra,
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life and assist leader. So there's thirteen of them, and
they're all importance. They're kind of in an order. There's
things that it's it's they're kind of in an order.
But also there's you know, the order of importance can
be very subjective, you know, some things. You know, for me,
I was always big into health, So like, you know,
I don't need to focus so much on the health
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as wealth section because that came naturally to me, you know.
So it's the level of importance is subjective. So but
there's yeah, there's thirteen of them. They're all very interesting.
You know, I just can't talk about all of them.
Living a whole hour.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
Well, I have a feeling way too many people, more
than we can imagine, really relate to you and your experiences.
So I would highly suggest people grab a copy of
Justin Shaw's book Sorcery one oh one. I know I
plan to get a copy here in a little bit,
but you know, I read something where you state the
(27:34):
overuse of our phones and a hyper focus on the
material world can be just as destructive to the soul
as drugs. And alcohol, each specific symptoms such as addictions
to gambling, food, shopping, sex, drugs, as well as most
forms of what is referred to as chronic illness.
Speaker 3 (27:52):
Boy, that's true.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
They all branch out from the same root cause, spiritual bankruptcy.
Speaker 7 (27:58):
What is spiritual bank yeah so so yeah, here and here,
especially in America and the Western the whole Western world.
Speaker 5 (28:08):
Is we have a focus on people's symptoms. You know,
it is the focus is on the symptoms. What is
you know, what what is your addiction to? You know,
what kind of you know, if you have anxiety, you know,
you can take some pills. If you have depression and
go see a therapist, if you know, if if you
drink too much, there's meetings for that. But if you
use drugs, don't go to those meetings. Go go to
(28:29):
these meetings. And if you use certain drugs and there's
there's other meetings. And you have a gambling meeting, you know,
if you have a gambling addiction, well don't go to
the AA meetings. We've got other meetings. Everything is separated
by symptom and it's and the fact is is it's
all one group cause and that is spiritual vancruptcy. It
can all be taken care of it together. And it's
just everyone wants to see separation. It's like, well, my
(28:51):
problem isn't drinking, I don't you know. But but that
same person is is you know, can't put phone now,
you know. So it's it's you know, there and there
and phone addiction is is rampant, and it's something that
we still don't have, you know, we're still like what
do we do about the phone addiction thing? So it's
you know, and and and everything is separated. But the
(29:13):
fact is so it would be like the Western medicine
kind of approach would be, you know, if one hundred
people had lunch once a month and ninety of those
people got sick every time, the Western medicine approach would
be to dole out antiinagen pills to ninety of those
people every time instead of just looking at the root cause,
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which is the quality of the food being concerned. So
that's what kind of these approaches target, you know the thing.
And it's nothing against doctors in Western medicine, just we
have an amazing uh you know, like grasp on acute injuries,
but we have no idea what we're doing in terms
(29:54):
of chronic illness, no idea, not a clue. So you know,
like if my if I fall off a roof and
my arm is broken, acupuncture is not an appropriate thing
to be doing. You know, don't send me to a
chiroproductor so you know, you go to a doctor, you
set the bone, but it is the body that heals itself.
So what the kind of sorcery thing does is it
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emotionally sets the bone so our our our bodies and
mind's gonna start healing. But you know, if you don't
go to a doctor and set the bone, it's going
to give you problems the rest of your life. It's
never gonna heal correctly. It's never gonna it's it's it's
not gonna be a good thing. And the thing with
chronic illness is that Western medicine doesn't understand how to
set the bone to actually let the body heal itself.
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And that's what sorcery is about, like actually setting the
emotional spiritual bone and letting the mind and body heal itself,
which takes time. And in this this is a world
of instant gratification. A lot of what it's just like, well,
if I can't have it now forgetting and because I'm
not getting out there, I'm not telling you this is
this is gonna work right away. This is this, This
takes time. You have healing takes time, you know. You
(31:03):
just like with the arm, you know, you break your
arm two days later, it's still gonna hurt. So this
takes time, but it works because I've been through it
and I now am so I have so much joy
in my life. I don't have anxiety anymore. You know,
something like this would have caused me to like have
panic and just not do it. Like, but I've healed
(31:25):
so much to where like you know, I enjoy being
around people now, and and you know, he's been kind
of a bit of a shut in before, and and
I don't use drugs and alcohol. I don't feel a
need to. I have joy now, which is very different
than happiness. Happiness is happiness can come from all these
(31:46):
things that these worldly things, there's nothing really wrong with them,
you know, Like no, you know, sex is one of
those things that can bring you happiness, but it's the
attachment to it is what causes to suffering. So you
can enjoy these things and have joy, but you know,
without constantly chasing happiness. The joy comes from you know,
(32:09):
joy is something you don't chase after. It comes from within.
And so to have joy, which I have now is
that's what I want to share with.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
Well, you know, you've nailed it on so many things,
you know, I mean humanities in most of humanities in
the airplane mode, you know. And then people have this
spiritual bankruptcy. And you know, as a student myself of
a course in miracles, which which shows that you know,
the main cause of what we imagine is this life
(32:40):
is that we fell asleep in a dream of separation
from source, and so that gives us the idea that
that you know, we are separate, and that spiritual bankruptcy.
You know, boy, I'm so glad you wrote this because
it's going to help a lot of people, help them
not to be bankrupt anymore.
Speaker 3 (33:00):
But you know we are talking to Justin Shaw.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
What an incredible story this this man has, and so
grateful to have him here. One more, one more thing,
just bouncing back for a moment. You know, you had
this career as a stand up comedian earlier in your life,
but now you classify yourself as a mystical comedian.
Speaker 3 (33:20):
Why I just made it up.
Speaker 5 (33:24):
I made it up. It's it's a term that doesn't exist.
But you know, because it's like I said before, like
I you know, I can't. As much as I love
people making people laugh, I am now I want to
help people and I want to make people think and
feel too, So I can't go. I can't go to
a comedy club and just you know, rip a bunch
of you know, like sex jokes, and it's just it's
(33:46):
not funny to me, and it's not fulfilling. So you know,
the comedy, the pure comedy thing is is in the
back burner, but I use that and the book is
very funny. There's a lot of humor in it. I
had to design it because I realized that, you know,
our society, the fractured concentration of generation TikTok. I kind
of wrote it with them in mind. So I cycle through, laughing,
(34:08):
feel throughout the whole book. I have to try to
concentrate it every moment. I need people to either be laughing, thinking,
or feeling. So I've designed it that way. But yeah,
a mystical comedian, I'm I'm I'm just getting started. Obviously,
the book hasn't even been out for that long and
I'm still recording audio. But I'd like to do tours
and stuff and people that want to come laugh, think
(34:29):
and feel. I want people like that, and I want
to be able to talk about things that I want
to do, kind of stand up philosophy, right Like, it's,
you know, kind of a mixture of the two. I
can make people laugh, but I also want to make
them think and feel. So that's that's where the mystical
comedian thing comes in.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
I said this before we started recording, that you know,
this life is too weird and crazy to take seriously.
So let's laugh, right, you know, and enjoy it. And
you can be normal but still be spiritual and you know,
just enjoy life. One other thing I'm really curious about.
You said you had studied at one point for the
(35:06):
shaman and you you you design this system which you
call a shamanic system of healing. Why what attracts you
to shamanism and why.
Speaker 5 (35:20):
Well, it's you know, it's getting to that that root
cause they recognize the shamans have one foot in the
visible world and one foot in the individual and recognize
that the marriage of the of the two is is
where all the healing is at so there's a lot
of energy and things. There's a lot of focus in
the chakras, which is one of one of one of
(35:40):
the wrongs, you know, dallexing those out and just the
energy healing aspect, because I've been through it. I went
through one of my rehabs was at this amazing place
called the Sanctuary in Sidona, which is far from me here.
I've been uh from Phoenix, and it just was a
really magical experience. And it was it was at the
(36:02):
time when I really started healing, and and that's when
I really got introduced to all these terms, is shadow
work and the chapras, and and and all these things.
Like I had been awakened and and had this, but
I wasn't introduced into all these amazing things of like
what shamanism is, and it's it's getting to the root
cause it is. It is dealing with that spiritual bankruptcy
(36:24):
and and doing it naturally. You know, I'm not trained
in the in the shamanistic arts. I like to say,
I'm I'm not a shaman, but I can be your
shaw man. Last name. I don't clever, but you know,
that's one of the things I'd like to do is
get trained in the shamanistic arts, and I hope to
you know, sorcery one or two maybe will be that
(36:44):
you know, be able to go off. And they have
these these trainings around the world to call the four winds,
that kind of trade people to be how to be shamans,
and I'd love to go off and do that and
get actually trained to be an actual shaman. Right right now,
I'm I'm the kind of healer that guides people that
heal themselves that don't really work with the you know,
(37:05):
I don't know how they did a lot of things
at this sanctuary place with you know, the feathers and
smoke and you know, all these these kind of which
seemed to really help at the time. So I'll be
very interested in learning more about that kind of stuff.
But yeah, it certainly helps me. And training with the
shaman and just doing as natural. The meditation is a
(37:26):
huge part of sorcery and questioning things more and that's
all kind of part of this shaman route.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
Well, I'm really glad you clarified that, because I think
most of the world thinks when they hear the word shaman,
they picture like gand off the Grave from Lord of
the Rings or something, you know, and all is strange
man or Harry Potter, you know that type of thing,
but it's not you You nail it. Shaman is a
medium between the visible and the invisible world, and it's
(37:56):
it's very cool what they do.
Speaker 3 (37:58):
Now.
Speaker 2 (37:59):
One thing that you use that word source quite a bit,
and and I do myself.
Speaker 3 (38:03):
But can we call the source God?
Speaker 2 (38:07):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (38:08):
I mean it's whatever. You know, there's I mean, there's
hundreds of different names for it, right, you know, like, aha,
God source, you know, there's you know, it's it's what
was made, gave Jesus his power, it's you know, it
was It's in all the great spiritual leaders and teachers.
It's part of it. I stray away from the G
(38:29):
word because there's a lot of religiously you know, con
traumatized people that kind of that's like, so I stray
away from that personally. But it is, Yeah, it is.
It is definitely God. I mean even science has a
name for it, dark matter, you know it is. I'm
not a big fan of that name myself, because, like I,
dark matter seems nefarious, you know, like you know, but
(38:50):
you know, I feel like I'm the dark matter. That's
light matter, you know, but but it's just called back
because we can't see it. But it's they're they're kind
of they're starting to realize that there's there's something to
this source thing, and they're so there's Every religion has
a name for it, and it's whatever you want to
call it, but it is the field. It is the
unified field, the quantum field, and the constrict field. All
(39:12):
these are our names for source. And it's it's the
field and information and it is there to be tapped
into at any time, and it can just it can. Truly,
geniuses are not separate or different from us. They just
have better access to their subconscious and once you get
tapped into that, and they were tapped into the field.
You know, people you know, you kind of you're in
(39:36):
that gamma kind of brainwaves state that you know in
meditation where it's happened to me several times, and that's
its transformative awakenings of this gamma state. And I believe people,
you know, people of antiquity, like like Jesus, like Leonardo
da Vinci, like Nicola Tesla, like these people I believe
tapped into the this field of information and are able
(39:59):
to stay tapped in. I've experienced gamma you know, that
bliss attack, that's the gamma of brainwave state. I've had
several of those instances. But I believe people like this
are are We're just able to tap into it all day,
every day. Just right now, we're in kind of a
beta state where the waiting state, we're in kind of
mid rate beta of talking. And but but I believe
(40:19):
that you know, these amazing the Buddha and Muhammad and
all these amazing they were just they were just tapped
into this gamma brainway state all the time, and we're
just able to just be superstars and incredible people and
and they're no different from us. I haven't figured out
how to do that yet, and I'd love to figure
out how to try. But but it is possible, and
I just believe any anything is possible. Truly.
Speaker 2 (40:41):
I think for anybody who's a student of true spiritualities,
we understand that you know we are since we are source,
we are connected to source. We source created us. That
we are light inherently, uh. And that darkness or the
dark manner you talk about, can only obscure the light.
(41:02):
It can't dissipate ever or obliterate light, and light will
over always instantly make darkness disappear. And if what people
are following what you're doing, then that light should shine
brighter and brighter and dissipate that darkness forever.
Speaker 5 (41:20):
Yeah. Absolutely, We're all reflections of we are God, We
are all got everybody. So it's and it's it's just
like that the kind of holographic nature of things. You know,
if you take a hologram, you know, of a person,
and you you know, cut it in half, you're not
going to get you know, the waist down portion of
(41:42):
the hologram, You're going to get a half sized version
of the big hologram. So you know, like I think
our dimension is kind of almost like the hologram projected
into a disco ball, and like all these we're all little,
you know, just little pieces of the same source. And
you know, it's it's the ocean thing. When I had
(42:03):
my experience, I felt like a glass of water being
poured back into the ocean. And I think we're all,
you know, glasses of water being separate from the ocean,
and this this thing we call death is just we're
just getting poured back into the ocean. There's there's nothing
to be afraid. I believe me. I know that. So
it's yeah, it's we are all reflections and pieces of
(42:25):
that same source. And if more people knew that, we'd
have a lot less problems in the world.
Speaker 3 (42:33):
Oh absolutely, you know.
Speaker 2 (42:35):
You know, we're talking about spirituality and one of the questions,
one of the main question of this show is why now,
more than ever, are the people of the world awakening
to all things spiritual, metaphysical and enlightening.
Speaker 3 (42:49):
What is your thoughts on this? Why now?
Speaker 2 (42:51):
Why now more than ever seems any time in history
that humanity is awakening to all these beautiful things.
Speaker 5 (42:58):
Yeah, and you know, I think it is people are
starting starting to see through the the I believe all
religions are are built on a cracked foundation. You know,
they're all real pretty houses that look good. And my experience,
I wouldn't talk about any other religion, but I was
in Christianity for ten years and that is my experience
(43:19):
with it, is that it was this really pretty house
that helped me. You know, there's the world is a
world of gray and a source er sees the world
for what it is. It's a world of gray. It is.
You know that it is not black and white. Our
minds want to put things in the black and white box.
But the fact is is the Bible and things like
that are are both helpful and destructive. It's it's both
(43:42):
and and I think people are seeing through the the
the that cracked foundation of a lot of religions. For me,
it did help for a while, but it is built
on this foundation of fear and judgment. And when it
came down to it, and one of the last things,
my final straw, was all this bullshit programming that you know,
like if you're not going to church and you're not
(44:03):
a Christian, you're going to help. Well, my mother was
not a Christian and she never went to church, and
my last week with her alive was extremely traumatic because
not you know, of course her dying was traumatic, but
now I had this whole other additional thing on top
of it that all these program all these pastors, the
program made believe that she was going to help and
(44:24):
she was gonna suffer the rest of her life. So
instead of being like a shepherd to the afterlife, like
it would be now and I'd be super excited and like, mommy,
you're going to be out of pain, all this pain
you've been in your whole life. And you know, she
had a year of just you know, deteriorating and and
it was it was very horrible to watch and and
I would have been excited for Instead, I'm just sitting
there full of dread and fear and and and wondering
(44:46):
what's going to happen to her? And like, screw you
guys for for for making me like you ruined the
last week of my mother's death, like I And so
I think people are starting to see through like the
things in religion and starting spirituality is found and religion
(45:07):
is taught, and you know, religion causes separation and spirituality unites.
So I think that's what people are starting to see.
And it is very refreshing to see and and I
would like to see more of it. There's still a
whole lot of division and a whole lot to come through,
but you know, we could have. You know, a utopian
(45:28):
society is very doable. People think it's impossible, it is.
It is doable. And there's something called the Maharishi effect,
which you know, if you can just get one percent,
one percent of a given society to kind of get
on the level with the things that we're talking about here,
and you know, the sorcery, indentation and shadow work and
all these concepts. One percent will change the will completely
(45:51):
change the construct of the organism. And the best example
is is you know, diet soda is ninety nine percent water,
and so you know that one percent sense completely alters
the liquid structure. Chimpanzees are one percent away from being human.
One percent doesn't sound like a lot, but it will
completely change. So if we can you know, let's not
(46:12):
focus on everybody, but if we can just get like
one percent of the American population to get kind of
on the level, it would completely change everything.
Speaker 3 (46:22):
Wow, that's cool.
Speaker 2 (46:23):
I haven't heard anybody talk about the Maharishi effect in
a long time, but it is, it's very valid, and
it really is true. But you know, going back to religion,
you know, I think what attracts me to true spirituality
and connection the source as opposed to organized religions in
the world, most of their organized religions, they're basic mission
(46:47):
is beautiful, but it's been controlled by man and changed
with the paradigms of judgment and power, and you know,
control of the masses, and that is completely distorted the
message of most organized religions in the world. So and
and for somebody like you and I, we both grew
(47:08):
up kind of with a blank slate.
Speaker 3 (47:09):
I didn't.
Speaker 2 (47:10):
I grew up in a household with no religion, never
went to church, never talked about it. You know. Our
household was an emotional blank like like your family.
Speaker 3 (47:19):
But but it gave me.
Speaker 2 (47:21):
A blank slate to allow me to grab onto these
beautiful concepts of light and love and truth and source
and expand it with myself.
Speaker 8 (47:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (47:33):
Yeah, it's it's it's it's a big it's it's a
big shift. I like it. But yeah, I grew up
in that and I kind of passively went to study
school a little bit, but you know, it was just
more of this thing of you sho go And once
I had to say, I just didn't. But it is that,
you know, Jesus, I believe. But but after I got
(47:53):
sober the first time, that's when things I just I
really was like, okay, well, Christianity is the way and
go because you know, I was, I was in a
Bible study when kind of I had, you know, a
small await, nothing near what I had the real awakening
but it was just kind of a small like, you know,
they prayed for me, and I kind of had this
nice jolt of you know, like, okay, all right, you know,
(48:14):
I'll start going to church and and and so you know,
I but now I realized, you know, Jesus doesn't want followers,
he wants peers. You know, I don't believe that Jesus
would even be on board with Christianity at all. It's
you know, from what it looks like he he came.
I believe his whole mission was to lead people away
(48:34):
from religion, not to create a whole new one. You know,
that's when he was walked. When he was on the earth,
the only people he couldn't really vibe with were the
religious leaders. And I think even came back, we'd have
the same issue. And you know, all these pastors and
things that think that they had they they they're sure
they know the deal and it is and it is
in the Bible, and it's just gotten so watered down
(48:57):
over time and and controlled. And people understand that they
can you know, make people feel really good. Okay, well,
now if you're aboard that, you have to listen to
what I say. And now when I say goes, and
so it has been completely distorted and the original, you know,
all all I think, all the religion, the original you know,
message is gone because it's it's been it's been taken
(49:21):
with power and control and kings and priests and and
all these you know, lots of there's a lot, a
lot of money to be made, there's a lot of
control to be done, and so it's been it's been
kind of shifted and taken over by you know, unfortunately,
by kind of power hundred people. And that's and that's
what we have.
Speaker 2 (49:40):
That wow, and that is why we were talking to
somebody like you, filled with light and love and truth.
We are talking and with having a very enlightening conversation
with Justin Shaw.
Speaker 3 (49:52):
This is pretty amazing.
Speaker 2 (49:54):
I wrote down a little note I wanted to bounce
back to We We mentioned addictions coming all forms in
the world that put us on autopilot, but.
Speaker 3 (50:05):
Uh, you mentioned phone addiction. You know, I'm beginning to think.
Speaker 2 (50:09):
That nobody is capable of walking down the sidewalk without
a phone in front of their face. You know, I
go running almost every day, and I'll be running in
a beautiful park on a beautiful spring morning and it's
glorious out and I have no earbuds in and I'm
saying hi to the trees and the birds and the flowers.
And somebody comes walking behind this beautiful day with a
(50:29):
phone in front of their face, oblivious to everything.
Speaker 3 (50:32):
But really, it is a global addiction.
Speaker 2 (50:35):
And it's not like I don't use my phone a lot,
but wow, it's it's incredible.
Speaker 3 (50:40):
I don't know where we go with it.
Speaker 5 (50:42):
Yeah, it's well, you know, Source cannot this is this
is good Source cannots. There's two types of focus. There's
convergent focus and divergent focus. And if you're constantly on
your phone, you're constantly in a convergent focus. Your attention
isn't here. In meditation, you're you're able to take that
focus and make a focus on everything and create a
(51:04):
diversion focus. Now, Source can actually speak to you because
if you're if you're a focus, which this is the
we live and we go from the phone to work
to TV to I mean, we are constantly in a
convergent focus. Until you sit down and take meditation and
kind of realize that divergent focus, Source will never be
able to speak. It can't. It's like we know our talk,
(51:27):
so we have to get out of that and and
to kind of explain divergent focus, it's it's it's as
if like if you were to be set in front
of it, or stood in front of a brick wall
with a blind fold on and take the blind folk off,
all you're gonna see is the blurry shader add and
you take a step back, you'll see a break. You
take a couple of steps back to see it. A
few breaks, take a couple of steps back, you see
it's a wall, and then maybe you take a few
(51:48):
more steps back, and then you see that this wall
is part of the magnificent castle. Now that blurry shader
red is now this in seeing castle because you've taken
some steps back. But that is the divergent focus. And
that is what I'd like, is you more I'm serving
The phones are and you.
Speaker 2 (52:06):
Know it's not only phones, you know, I see everybody
everywhere with these white sticks in their ear which attach
them and and you know even audio or when you're
running or walking and you have something always in your
ears and and it's prevent presents a kaka fani constantly
in your in your head where I think people are
(52:26):
afraid to listen to their own thoughts and and that's
why they always have something in their ears or in
their eyes.
Speaker 5 (52:34):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know it is. And and I'm
I'm one who likes I love my music when I'm
walking and like I said, resonate these kind of movie
scores and I kind of get into it and walking.
So but yeah, no, even I certainly, you know, like
I love to walk and run with with earbuds in
because the kind of keep it going. But but it
is like I I you know, I do walk my
(52:55):
dog more like I'll walk my dog and just purposely
leave them, you know, like just kind of especially in
our morning lots, like not to let people around. It's
it's just it's just nice to kind of be checked out.
So it's really good. And then walking, you know, is
a form of meditation if because we kind of do it,
you know that it's there's a million ways of meditating,
(53:17):
none of them wrong, but that is a form where
you just kind of check out and you just kind
of go for a walk and you kind of blink
your thoughts. I mean that's meditating.
Speaker 8 (53:25):
So but yeah, if your tension is constantly converged, don't
expect the source to ever talk to you because you're
just saying I'm busy.
Speaker 2 (53:33):
And in my running is my form of meditation, same
thing you kind of check out while you're running and everything.
Speaker 3 (53:40):
But well we're gonna wind up a little bit here.
Speaker 2 (53:42):
But uh, justin after living so much of your life
addicted and out of control, how do you now spend
your days?
Speaker 3 (53:49):
Are you constantly meditating? Are you doing.
Speaker 2 (53:52):
Workshops or are you plan to do that? Are you
coaching and doing speaking engagements?
Speaker 5 (53:57):
Yeah? I mean I would well, yeah, that's my focus.
So the book hasn't been out longed. Right now i'm
recording the audio. I probably start going back to I
was lucky enough to have kind of be able to
take out a board cass last year, and it's been able.
It's not a big amount, but it's been able to
have me focus on the book, completely focus on a
new career and starting starting that. So this year is
(54:19):
just about creating awareness around the book and then I
want to you know, this is the seed to plant
the career tree, so where it goes from here. I
still plan on doing more, but you know, my days
are very busy and full, especially right now with recording
the audio. I think I'm gonna i'll have, you know,
some more time to kind of be working. But I'm
excited to see where it's gonna take me because either
things I want to do. You know, it's it's big
(54:42):
for one person to kind of handle all this stuff,
but I just I know I need. I know, I
have a set of things to do. And it started
with this book. It's it's like people if you know,
people are only going to come see you if they
know who you are, so that this year is simply
about creating awareness of the book and and getting it
(55:04):
out there. So and and you know it's it's on Amazon.
But even if you can't afford it, you can you
can email me and I'll the good I'll send you
a free ebook. As it is, it's just about creating
awareness about it.
Speaker 2 (55:15):
Are you Are you recording that audiobook in a professional
studio or how No, I'm.
Speaker 5 (55:21):
Recording it here. I've just got I've got my microphone
and I kind of shut everything out and it sounds
it sounds pretty good, but it's not in a professional studio. Now,
I don't have access to that, but it's it's it's
good enough for now. If if there's a chance to
report in a professional studio, I'll do it all over again.
But you know, I purchased it. You know, it's just
(55:42):
kind of an online studio with you know, with the
mic here and my and my headphones, so it sounds
it sounds fine. You know, I'm sure a real studio
it would sound even better. But for now, this is
what this is what I'm gonna do.
Speaker 2 (55:57):
Well, that's so awesome and and I'll look forward to
hearing that. And so I encourage everybody to grab a
copy of Justin Shaw's new book, Sorcery one on one.
I will have a link to that in the in
the show notes, so you can do that. And Justin
what is what is your vision of how your book
(56:18):
affects the world and the people who read it?
Speaker 5 (56:21):
Well, I hope that it causes I know it can
it absolutely, it could change the world. I'm not saying
it's going to, but you know, I'm hoping it causes
some change. And the main thing I want to get
out of it is for people. First of all, it's
very enjoyable. It's a very enjoyable read, Like it's really
fun to read, laugh thing field That's the whole way
(56:43):
through and I'm hoping it's it gets out to people,
especially people that are really struggling and suffering like I was.
And the whole point of it is to set the
emotional bone right like like I talked earlier, like I
want to if we can, if I can be the
doctor and set your emotional bone and let the body
(57:03):
start to heal itself. And you know, it's it's it's
it's work, it's daily work. It doesn't happen all at once,
but it's after after you rewire your brain and that
europlasticity of making the inconnections in your brain and learning
things and changing. You know, it is your personality that
creates your personal reality.
Speaker 8 (57:22):
So uh, you know, if we start there in your
personal reality, that's that's what I really hope to bring.
Speaker 2 (57:30):
And that sounds wonderful. That is sure what the world needs.
So finally, what what's the best way for people to
connect with Justin Shaw if they would like to?
Speaker 5 (57:39):
Yeah, So I I just got back on social media
like a few days ago, like literally it was I
think three days ago. So I've been off social media
about four years. But I had my wakening. I just
deleted and you know that was really good for the time,
because you know, like a horse wearing blinders, I seem
to run a better race at that time. But now
I realize it's probably a good time to get back
(58:00):
on and connect with people. So currently I only have one.
It's Instagram and it's Sorcerer with You s O R
z r R Underscore thirteen on Instagram. You can email
me for a free ebook, which is a Sorcerer at
thirteen at Gmail the Wonderscore source for thirteen Gmail, and
(58:21):
then it's on Amazon. Yeah, you'll have the link, but
you can search on Amazon for the for the book itself.
Speaker 8 (58:27):
Sorcery one oh one thirteen runs to a higher relation consciousness.
Just put in the word sorcery for some reason. You
can put into the sorcery to the you and it
will be like the second one. Basically, there's a yeah,
there's a there's a kids book. It looks like a
kind of a Harry Spotter kids book thing. That's that's
spells it with the you.
Speaker 5 (58:44):
But that's only what we want. If you put in
sorcery one on one and Autocrats said a real sorcery
and send you two books. But apparently about it's becoming
a better pat SI. See that's fine. Justin Elshaw Yeah, yeah,
you can serve.
Speaker 3 (58:55):
For mine all right. Very cool and Justin Rna.
Speaker 2 (58:59):
Absolute blessing to have you here on World Awakenings.
Speaker 3 (59:02):
I appreciate a brother.
Speaker 5 (59:04):
Thank you, Yeah, thank you so much. Love it.
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One physical problem that plagues many many people throughout the
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So the cause in Western conventional medicine, they mainly associate
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a whole additional view that to me is crucial because
you know, again the Western view, it's like we're just
looking at the inner ear, not really thinking about the
rest of the body. That's a whole other specialty, right,
But in orient medicine, as soon as we hear tinatuves
ear problems, hearing problems, the first thing we think is, oh,
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(02:55):
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on episode number two O two, we check in with
Justin Shaw, who is known as a mystical comedian, doctor
of divinity and a sourcerer passionate about empowering people to
reclaim their self worth and manifest the highest potential. Now,
following a long battle with substance abuse, PTSD, depression and
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anxiety disorders, Justin, a form of stand up comedian, experienced
firsthand the redeeming power of source energy. After an incredible experience,
he will never forget. Justin is author of the new
book Sorcery one oh one thirteen runs to a higher
elevation of consciousness, a new system designed for sourcing a
(07:28):
spiritual revolution. And by the way, Justin Spell's Sorcery, soo
you are cry and we'll find out about that in
a little bit.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
So with that, welcome the World Awakenings, Justin.
Speaker 5 (07:42):
Thank you. It's great to be here.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
Love it, oh man, I'm so grateful.
Speaker 5 (07:46):
Man.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
You you look like you have a pretty interesting story
and a lot of beautiful things to share with the world.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
But you know, my viewers know.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
I like to establish a base with my customers and
find out more about them, and well, man, it sounds
like you had one heck of a rough rider earlier
in your life with a substance abuse, PTSD, depression, et cetera.
Why did your earlier life follow this crazy path?
Speaker 5 (08:12):
Well, yeah, that's that's yeah, that's a good that's a
good starting point.
Speaker 6 (08:16):
So, you know, when you the household I grew up in,
I believe we're all born just a you know, clean slate,
and you know our environments.
Speaker 5 (08:27):
Everyone is kind of a reflection, a walking reflection of
the environment they were raised in. So, you know, when
I was growing up, there was I just grew up.
My parents did the best job they could. They did,
you know, the same job that their parents did, which
was I mean, I essentially grew up in what was
an emotional vacuum. There was just there was no discussion
(08:47):
about anything involving feelings or emotions or any sort of
sensitive subjects anything at all. There's uh, it was just
it truly was like you say, it was, it was
like fight club in my household. You know, the first
rule is you don't talk about your feelings, and the
second rule is you don't talk about your feelings. How
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it was, it was like and That's just just how
it was there. So there was no you know, communication
that you know, I was loved or valued or important
or safe or any of these things. And so when
a child grows up, they now are looking to the
world for love, validation, and safety, and the world is
(09:27):
You're always going to tell them they are unsaved, unloved,
and unvaluable. So that is exactly what happened with me,
and that just led to a lot of struggle. My
old twenties was just struggle. I mean it was just drugs,
alcohol and just how do I how do I keep
this high going? So that led to a lot, you know,
(09:50):
that led to you know, to spend nights in jails
of course, in rehabs, halfway houses and park benches, you know.
I mean, it's just my twenties was not fun time
at all. So, you know, there's there's two types of trauma.
There's you know, capital T trauma, which is big kind
of knee jerking events and physical abuse, sexual views, things
(10:12):
like that. You know, I've I've had some shares of
big T trauma, but lower T trauma is this slow
burn kind of neglectful trauma. That and that's what I
went through so it just it caused a lot of problems.
But you know, I wouldn't go back and change anything
because it's made me now who I am. So yeah, yeah,
(10:35):
that's that's that's what got me to the you know,
the depths of the mired in addiction, Presa.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
That's that's interesting because I'm guessing that much of the
world has this so what did you say, lowercase T trauma?
Uh in the world, and we carry that in our
hip pocket and and manifests in these other things things
like addictions and everything. But you know, I've only had
a chance to read, you know, the sample on Amazon
(11:06):
of your book, and whoa your your stint into rehab
and stuff was quite amazing.
Speaker 5 (11:13):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, And that's and I've been there. You know,
I've been to rehab five different times. And the book
has a really fun opening story of my rehab experience
with hip hop legend DMX, which is, you know, I
had to open the book with something really really fun.
It's going to get people and and I had a
really comedic take on it. I used to stand up
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comedy back in the day when I was doing more drugs,
because I found out once I kind of got sober.
These atmospheres of comedy clubs and things just weren't really
healthy for me. They were very triggering and so and
I had this anxiety that was just insane that would
not go away that I relied on. Especially I love
(11:57):
prescription pills. That was my drug of choice, where you know,
but stimulant spins of diaz a, the ex opiates, and
then alcohol those were my my big ones. I've I've
tried straight level drugs and had my stats with all
of them, but those that's what really grabbed me, with
those those things. So without those things, I realized I
just I gave up on the whole comedy thing. And
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and so but now I get to, you know, kind
of work that whole my that whole comedy side to
me in and it's really exciting. I get, you know,
I I see a lot of spiritual teachers out there,
and I see comedians and and and it's going to
be very fun to kind of meld those two things together.
And that's that's what I want to The book is
(12:39):
just the seed I hope to grow into a career tree.
So I'd love to go on kind of tours and things.
I can't be a straight up comedian because I want
to make people laugh and laugh, think and feel. Most
people in comedy clubs just want to laugh. So so
it's I'm kind of creating a whole new thing. I
want people that are interested in in inking and feeling
(13:01):
along with laughing. So it's it's it's gonna be interesting
where this goes.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
Well, I'm just curious one more thing about the comedian thing.
What led you to pursue the stand up comedian career thing?
Did you just find out you had the ability to
make people laugh with your sense of humor?
Speaker 5 (13:19):
Yeah, you know, I grew up you know, this emotional vacuum.
I you know, the television was not my babysitter. It
was a full time parent. And so I grew up
during you know the nineties when there were so many
funny movies coming out, just just loads, you know, they
carrying them Sandor Fits, Barley and all these people, and
and I just and the SNL was kind of in
(13:41):
a golden period in the nineties there, you know, Will
Ferrell and you know, Jimmy Fallon and all these people,
and so it was just that's what I gravitated towards
because that's what made me feel good. So like before
drugs and alcohol, it was comedy and so and the
Simpsons on another huge influence on me. Those ninety Simpsons
are just amazing, and I just realized I could, you know,
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I could do voices, I could imitate pretty well, and
I can also make people laugh, which also made the
pain go away. So it was not only so I
was getting, you know, laughter coming in and out, and
then I was making other people laugh, and that also
was feeding me and giving me kind of relief from
my pain. So that's where the comedy had come from.
(14:24):
It was just I love to laugh, and I love
to make people laugh even more than I love to
make myself laugh. Well, it kind of happens together.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
Yeah, well you can do voices.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
Maybe you can do voiceover for the Simpsons or South
Park or something.
Speaker 5 (14:38):
Yeah, I'm actually I'm doing the I'm recording the audio
for the book now. And there's a lot of places
I get to I get to I get to do
my voices. So I'm it's it's it's gonna be a
different kind of audio book for sure, and it's you know,
I've it should be out probably within the next month
or so. I should be done with it. But it's
really fun recording the audio. It's frustrating a one time,
(14:58):
but you know, like you gotta got to make sure
it's all perfect and everything. But getting getting the chance
to you know, showcase my impressions and voices is a
lot of fun.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
Oh that's very cool. Now I'm we're gonna dive a
little bit more into things. But one last thing. I'm
curious about. Your big fan of rap music and culture.
What is it about that that attracts you.
Speaker 5 (15:20):
Yeah, it's that's another one of those things. It's just
a music that I gravitated towards in that time period,
you know, and it was also one of those things
that made me forget I was in pain. It's just
it was, you know, kind of in the nineties are
that's when rapt really started taking off, and I was
really big into basketball. Basketball and hip hop kind of
(15:40):
go hand in hand together. So those things are are
big influences on my life, you know, basketball and hip hop.
So it's it's I like all kinds of music, except
for a country. I'm just not it's not into that,
but but I love all types of music and just anything. Recently,
I've made this incredible kind of playlist that I walk
(16:02):
around to with scores from movies because I'm trying to
project myself in my own movie. So I'll go on
a walk with the scores from movies and Hans Zimmer
and John Williams and Danny Elfman and these amazing you
know people that score these movies, and it puts me
to the setting that I am in a movie and
am i am. I am the narrator of my own movie.
(16:24):
So I'm trying to Morgan Freeman my way through my
life right now.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
I think my soundtrack is like a spaghetti western like
Clint Eastwood used to do for those soundtracks, which were
pretty crazy. So you ended up with all this addictions
and everything, rehab and all that. But I'm really interested
to hear about this encounter with what you call source
(16:49):
energy and the profound effect it had on you.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
What happened and.
Speaker 5 (16:53):
How Yeah, that was very That's the moment that everything changed. Right.
So I was at the time, I was working with
a shaman and I was kind of doing uh I
was I was getting introduced to meditation as well as
shadow work, which is one of the rungs. So there's
(17:15):
rungs as opposed to you know, steps steps, moving forward
is good, but moving up is better because the bird
has a better perspective thing with than the word. So
one of the first rugs is shadow work. I was
doing a lot of that, kind of going through some
false beliefs and you know, asking myself what do I
believe about myself and about the world around me, and
also doing meditation at the same time. So one day
(17:38):
I just, you know, after doing this kind of work,
I was coming home and I wasn't even meditating at
the time. I was just I was stretching after a workout,
and all of a sudden, I had this. I've had
panic attacks in my whole life, but this was this
was This was a bliss attack. This there was It
was an onset of just love out of nowhere, just
out of nowhere. Drug free there was. There was no
drugs at this time, so there's no there's absolutely no
(18:02):
scientific reason for this happening. Completely sober. So it kind
of came on and I just felt was like, oh
my gosh, something is happening, and it overcame me and
I went and I lied down in my bed and
for three hours I was in a state of complete bliss,
(18:22):
just total at peace with everything. And at the same time,
I was getting kind of downloads and truths about the
illusionary nature of things and how things work and how
societally we're completely missing the mark, you know, like all
these things, and I knew they were truths because of
how I was feeling. So I was given this, you
(18:43):
know that they weren't just thoughts. There was this extreme, amazing,
blissful feeling and the thought and I realized, my whole life,
I've been in airplane mode, my whole life. I mean,
when you you know, when you go and get on airplane,
you turn on airplane mode and it blocks all the
signals and everything from coming into your phone. So you know,
(19:04):
a phone perpetually on an airplane mode is not living
up to its potential. And that's what I realized, and
that's what it was for me, And I realized that
the vast majority of people are as well in airplane mode,
just going through life is kind of programmed things without
really having any idea of who they are or what
(19:25):
is going on. So that was the moment, and I
realized that, you know, if you were to explaining this
a very devoutent because you know, going up to you know,
like if you were to take a fork and stick
in an outlet and experience that shock of electricity. You know,
try to explaining to that to someone that lives in
the Jungles and the Amazon. It's it's not easy to do. Like,
(19:47):
you know, in an electric shocked you know, they're not
going to have any concept or idea, so me explaining
it is difficult. But I realized that, you know, explaining
source energy is like explaining water to a fish. You know,
It's it's like it's it's like what do you you know,
It's like, well, you're surrounded by this substance and it
and it keeps you alive, and it keeps you moving
(20:08):
and going, and like explaining that to a fish is
really difficult. And that's the same with source energy. It's
it's it is a consciousness field that can be tapped into.
This book came not from my ability to think I'm
I'm not as nearly as smart as this book says.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
I am.
Speaker 5 (20:27):
I know, I'm a sea pleasant student on a good day.
I you know, just recently figured out how to spell
the word business. I'm you know, I'm not anything unique,
but I tapped into this information field that is around
us at all times and realize that the brain is
the receiver. There's no information or really anything stored in
the brain. It's it's the receiver that you can tap
(20:48):
into this energy field that surrounds us at all time.
And I realized I had been I was like, I
was like the fish in the pond, you know, like
did the fish in this pond or you know, and
it's swimming around and that's the world that knows it's
just this little pond, and then one day it gets
caught by an angler and pulled out to this magnificent,
(21:08):
insane world. You know that there's lots of ponds, there's oceans,
there's there's this whole other world that this fish never
knew about. And that's that's. This experience that happened to
me was it's quite a shock, and but an amazing,
fantastic shock. I call it my You know that a
lot of these people go through near death experiences where
(21:29):
they kind of go through something similar that you know,
changes them. I didn't die or even was close to it,
So this is my near life experience, Like this is
what you know, this is what's coming. You know, this
is what's coming after after life. So and it's pretty magical.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
Well, this this experience of bliss or source energy. I
guess many people call that like a Kundalini awaknings, you
know I mean, and that it's almost become like a
generic term for you know, a spiritual awakening. But so
you had this experience, and then you recently published this
(22:05):
book Sorcery one on one thirteen wrongs to a higher
elevation of consciousness. Why do you spell sorcery that way?
And what are the thirteen wrongs?
Speaker 5 (22:15):
Yeah, so I had this experience and I was still
kind of off and on and going through going. I
had some really tough things happened during this time period.
I lost my mother, I lost my sister, I lost
a close childhood friend. I had a former fiance leave
me with my infant son and move across the country
and just cut me out and just change your number
(22:38):
and just gone. I haven't seen him in two and
a half years. So I had a lot of really
hard things to go through. And this was causing you know,
back and forth going between the drugs and going you know,
like so for a couple of years, the whole source
experience happened about four years ago, but for two years
I was still kind of struggling. But in the last
two years I really have gotten things together and started
(22:59):
my healing and and you know, just let myself start
to heal. And this book is very meta in the
fact that you know, like I am, I am healing
myself writing these things. I'm getting these these amazing things happening.
So I'm writing and helping myself, but also creating something
that I realize now that could you know, help a
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lot of people. I mean it, you know, these concepts
and ideas go back until the beginning of time. They're ancient,
but I've just recycled them through humor and my subconscious
and pop more pop culture and made something that is
relatable now for you know. So it's it has changed
the world potential. It's like going to but these you know,
it's nothing new. It's just I just filtered it and
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made it something fresh. So sorcery is filled with a
you because again, this is not about you know, uh,
wizards and cauldrons and put in roads and I have
newt right, Like, it's it's not that kind of sorcery.
It is you know, s o U r C SOO
source energy to use that to create a you know,
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a thriving new life, you know, And there's it. I
was just thinking about, you know, like how do I
I've had I'm having all this stuff go through my
mind and it's like, okay, I can really make something
special here? How do I do it? And that's when
it kind of source of guided me to these runs
because I had been through AA and AA is is
(24:28):
is great on on some levels for me, leaving behind
A is essentially you know, disguise Christianity a little bit
and I'm not saying anything new. And for me, you know,
leaving Christianity behind, you know, part of it's a very
paradoxical thing. You know, part of having leaving religion behind
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is what helped me have a true religious experience. So
you know, but I used AA. It can be very helpful,
but can also be disempowering because you're powerless human beings
separate from God instead of an absolute reflection of Divine
it self. So but I use that the twelve steps
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and kind of like well, you know, like you know,
steps are good, moving forward is good, but moving up
is better. So there's thirteen for a very specific reason,
and that is because thirteen in America here is for
some reason. Well I kind of looked it up, but
it's considered unlucky to the point where there's no thirteenth
(25:31):
floor on hotels here, right, It's absolutely ridiculous. And I
kind of looked it up, and supposedly it came from
there's there's thirteen people at the Last Supper, and Judas
was considered the thirteenth person, So thirteen the un lucky.
So it just is a complete fallacy and crap. Thirteen
is actually a number of the divine and will bring
good luck and prosperity to those who embrace it. So
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part of sorcery is kind of looking at those beliefs.
So thirteen is a good representation of, you know, looking
at things that may not be true, things that we
hold true that may not be true. So thirteen, and
there's thirteen of them, and you know, I can't get
in all of them over the hour, but I can,
I can. I've I've got a memorize now. So shadow
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work a call for inaction, surrender to serenity, help as wealth,
emotional alchemy, comfort and discomfort, attention to intention, goats over sheep,
follow your bliss, rose colored contacts, instinct versus intuition, the chakra,
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life and assist leader. So there's thirteen of them, and
they're all importance. They're kind of in an order. There's
things that it's it's they're kind of in an order.
But also there's you know, the order of importance can
be very subjective, you know, some things. You know, for me,
I was always big into health, So like, you know,
I don't need to focus so much on the health
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as wealth section because that came naturally to me, you know.
So it's the level of importance is subjective. So but
there's yeah, there's thirteen of them. They're all very interesting.
You know, I just can't talk about all of them.
Living a whole hour.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
Well, I have a feeling way too many people, more
than we can imagine, really relate to you and your experiences.
So I would highly suggest people grab a copy of
Justin Shaw's book Sorcery one oh one. I know I
plan to get a copy here in a little bit,
but you know, I read something where you state the
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overuse of our phones and a hyper focus on the
material world can be just as destructive to the soul
as drugs. And alcohol, each specific symptoms such as addictions
to gambling, food, shopping, sex, drugs, as well as most
forms of what is referred to as chronic illness.
Speaker 3 (27:52):
Boy, that's true.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
They all branch out from the same root cause, spiritual bankruptcy.
Speaker 7 (27:58):
What is spiritual bank yeah so so yeah, here and here,
especially in America and the Western the whole Western world.
Speaker 5 (28:08):
Is we have a focus on people's symptoms. You know,
it is the focus is on the symptoms. What is
you know, what what is your addiction to? You know,
what kind of you know, if you have anxiety, you know,
you can take some pills. If you have depression and
go see a therapist, if you know, if if you
drink too much, there's meetings for that. But if you
use drugs, don't go to those meetings. Go go to
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these meetings. And if you use certain drugs and there's
there's other meetings. And you have a gambling meeting, you know,
if you have a gambling addiction, well don't go to
the AA meetings. We've got other meetings. Everything is separated
by symptom and it's and the fact is is it's
all one group cause and that is spiritual vancruptcy. It
can all be taken care of it together. And it's
just everyone wants to see separation. It's like, well, my
(28:51):
problem isn't drinking, I don't you know. But but that
same person is is you know, can't put phone now,
you know. So it's it's you know, there and there
and phone addiction is is rampant, and it's something that
we still don't have, you know, we're still like what
do we do about the phone addiction thing? So it's
you know, and and and everything is separated. But the
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fact is so it would be like the Western medicine
kind of approach would be, you know, if one hundred
people had lunch once a month and ninety of those
people got sick every time, the Western medicine approach would
be to dole out antiinagen pills to ninety of those
people every time instead of just looking at the root cause,
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which is the quality of the food being concerned. So
that's what kind of these approaches target, you know the thing.
And it's nothing against doctors in Western medicine, just we
have an amazing uh you know, like grasp on acute injuries,
but we have no idea what we're doing in terms
(29:54):
of chronic illness, no idea, not a clue. So you know,
like if my if I fall off a roof and
my arm is broken, acupuncture is not an appropriate thing
to be doing. You know, don't send me to a
chiroproductor so you know, you go to a doctor, you
set the bone, but it is the body that heals itself.
So what the kind of sorcery thing does is it
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emotionally sets the bone so our our our bodies and
mind's gonna start healing. But you know, if you don't
go to a doctor and set the bone, it's going
to give you problems the rest of your life. It's
never gonna heal correctly. It's never gonna it's it's it's
not gonna be a good thing. And the thing with
chronic illness is that Western medicine doesn't understand how to
set the bone to actually let the body heal itself.
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And that's what sorcery is about, like actually setting the
emotional spiritual bone and letting the mind and body heal itself,
which takes time. And in this this is a world
of instant gratification. A lot of what it's just like, well,
if I can't have it now forgetting and because I'm
not getting out there, I'm not telling you this is
this is gonna work right away. This is this, This
takes time. You have healing takes time, you know. You
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just like with the arm, you know, you break your
arm two days later, it's still gonna hurt. So this
takes time, but it works because I've been through it
and I now am so I have so much joy
in my life. I don't have anxiety anymore. You know,
something like this would have caused me to like have
panic and just not do it. Like, but I've healed
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so much to where like you know, I enjoy being
around people now, and and you know, he's been kind
of a bit of a shut in before, and and
I don't use drugs and alcohol. I don't feel a
need to. I have joy now, which is very different
than happiness. Happiness is happiness can come from all these
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things that these worldly things, there's nothing really wrong with them,
you know, Like no, you know, sex is one of
those things that can bring you happiness, but it's the
attachment to it is what causes to suffering. So you
can enjoy these things and have joy, but you know,
without constantly chasing happiness. The joy comes from you know,
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joy is something you don't chase after. It comes from within.
And so to have joy, which I have now is
that's what I want to share with.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
Well, you know, you've nailed it on so many things,
you know, I mean humanities in most of humanities in
the airplane mode, you know. And then people have this
spiritual bankruptcy. And you know, as a student myself of
a course in miracles, which which shows that you know,
the main cause of what we imagine is this life
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is that we fell asleep in a dream of separation
from source, and so that gives us the idea that
that you know, we are separate, and that spiritual bankruptcy.
You know, boy, I'm so glad you wrote this because
it's going to help a lot of people, help them
not to be bankrupt anymore.
Speaker 3 (33:00):
But you know we are talking to Justin Shaw.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
What an incredible story this this man has, and so
grateful to have him here. One more, one more thing,
just bouncing back for a moment. You know, you had
this career as a stand up comedian earlier in your life,
but now you classify yourself as a mystical comedian.
Speaker 3 (33:20):
Why I just made it up.
Speaker 5 (33:24):
I made it up. It's it's a term that doesn't exist.
But you know, because it's like I said before, like
I you know, I can't. As much as I love
people making people laugh, I am now I want to
help people and I want to make people think and
feel too, So I can't go. I can't go to
a comedy club and just you know, rip a bunch
of you know, like sex jokes, and it's just it's
(33:46):
not funny to me, and it's not fulfilling. So you know,
the comedy, the pure comedy thing is is in the
back burner, but I use that and the book is
very funny. There's a lot of humor in it. I
had to design it because I realized that, you know,
our society, the fractured concentration of generation TikTok. I kind
of wrote it with them in mind. So I cycle through, laughing,
(34:08):
feel throughout the whole book. I have to try to
concentrate it every moment. I need people to either be laughing, thinking,
or feeling. So I've designed it that way. But yeah,
a mystical comedian, I'm I'm I'm just getting started. Obviously,
the book hasn't even been out for that long and
I'm still recording audio. But I'd like to do tours
and stuff and people that want to come laugh, think
(34:29):
and feel. I want people like that, and I want
to be able to talk about things that I want
to do, kind of stand up philosophy, right Like, it's,
you know, kind of a mixture of the two. I
can make people laugh, but I also want to make
them think and feel. So that's that's where the mystical
comedian thing comes in.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
I said this before we started recording, that you know,
this life is too weird and crazy to take seriously.
So let's laugh, right, you know, and enjoy it. And
you can be normal but still be spiritual and you know,
just enjoy life. One other thing I'm really curious about.
You said you had studied at one point for the
(35:06):
shaman and you you you design this system which you
call a shamanic system of healing. Why what attracts you
to shamanism and why.
Speaker 5 (35:20):
Well, it's you know, it's getting to that that root
cause they recognize the shamans have one foot in the
visible world and one foot in the individual and recognize
that the marriage of the of the two is is
where all the healing is at so there's a lot
of energy and things. There's a lot of focus in
the chakras, which is one of one of one of
(35:40):
the wrongs, you know, dallexing those out and just the
energy healing aspect, because I've been through it. I went
through one of my rehabs was at this amazing place
called the Sanctuary in Sidona, which is far from me here.
I've been uh from Phoenix, and it just was a
really magical experience. And it was it was at the
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time when I really started healing, and and that's when
I really got introduced to all these terms, is shadow
work and the chapras, and and and all these things.
Like I had been awakened and and had this, but
I wasn't introduced into all these amazing things of like
what shamanism is, and it's it's getting to the root
cause it is. It is dealing with that spiritual bankruptcy
(36:24):
and and doing it naturally. You know, I'm not trained
in the in the shamanistic arts. I like to say,
I'm I'm not a shaman, but I can be your
shaw man. Last name. I don't clever, but you know,
that's one of the things I'd like to do is
get trained in the shamanistic arts, and I hope to
you know, sorcery one or two maybe will be that
(36:44):
you know, be able to go off. And they have
these these trainings around the world to call the four winds,
that kind of trade people to be how to be shamans,
and I'd love to go off and do that and
get actually trained to be an actual shaman. Right right now,
I'm I'm the kind of healer that guides people that
heal themselves that don't really work with the you know,
(37:05):
I don't know how they did a lot of things
at this sanctuary place with you know, the feathers and
smoke and you know, all these these kind of which
seemed to really help at the time. So I'll be
very interested in learning more about that kind of stuff.
But yeah, it certainly helps me. And training with the
shaman and just doing as natural. The meditation is a
(37:26):
huge part of sorcery and questioning things more and that's
all kind of part of this shaman route.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
Well, I'm really glad you clarified that, because I think
most of the world thinks when they hear the word shaman,
they picture like gand off the Grave from Lord of
the Rings or something, you know, and all is strange
man or Harry Potter, you know that type of thing,
but it's not you You nail it. Shaman is a
medium between the visible and the invisible world, and it's
(37:56):
it's very cool what they do.
Speaker 3 (37:58):
Now.
Speaker 2 (37:59):
One thing that you use that word source quite a bit,
and and I do myself.
Speaker 3 (38:03):
But can we call the source God?
Speaker 2 (38:07):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (38:08):
I mean it's whatever. You know, there's I mean, there's
hundreds of different names for it, right, you know, like, aha,
God source, you know, there's you know, it's it's what
was made, gave Jesus his power, it's you know, it
was It's in all the great spiritual leaders and teachers.
It's part of it. I stray away from the G
(38:29):
word because there's a lot of religiously you know, con
traumatized people that kind of that's like, so I stray
away from that personally. But it is, Yeah, it is.
It is definitely God. I mean even science has a
name for it, dark matter, you know it is. I'm
not a big fan of that name myself, because, like I,
dark matter seems nefarious, you know, like you know, but
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you know, I feel like I'm the dark matter. That's
light matter, you know, but but it's just called back
because we can't see it. But it's they're they're kind
of they're starting to realize that there's there's something to
this source thing, and they're so there's Every religion has
a name for it, and it's whatever you want to
call it, but it is the field. It is the
unified field, the quantum field, and the constrict field. All
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these are our names for source. And it's it's the
field and information and it is there to be tapped
into at any time, and it can just it can. Truly,
geniuses are not separate or different from us. They just
have better access to their subconscious and once you get
tapped into that, and they were tapped into the field.
You know, people you know, you kind of you're in
(39:36):
that gamma kind of brainwaves state that you know in
meditation where it's happened to me several times, and that's
its transformative awakenings of this gamma state. And I believe people,
you know, people of antiquity, like like Jesus, like Leonardo
da Vinci, like Nicola Tesla, like these people I believe
tapped into the this field of information and are able
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to stay tapped in. I've experienced gamma you know, that
bliss attack, that's the gamma of brainwave state. I've had
several of those instances. But I believe people like this
are are We're just able to tap into it all day,
every day. Just right now, we're in kind of a
beta state where the waiting state, we're in kind of
mid rate beta of talking. And but but I believe
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that you know, these amazing the Buddha and Muhammad and
all these amazing they were just they were just tapped
into this gamma brainway state all the time, and we're
just able to just be superstars and incredible people and
and they're no different from us. I haven't figured out
how to do that yet, and I'd love to figure
out how to try. But but it is possible, and
I just believe any anything is possible. Truly.
Speaker 2 (40:41):
I think for anybody who's a student of true spiritualities,
we understand that you know we are since we are source,
we are connected to source. We source created us. That
we are light inherently, uh. And that darkness or the
dark manner you talk about, can only obscure the light.
(41:02):
It can't dissipate ever or obliterate light, and light will
over always instantly make darkness disappear. And if what people
are following what you're doing, then that light should shine
brighter and brighter and dissipate that darkness forever.
Speaker 5 (41:20):
Yeah. Absolutely, We're all reflections of we are God, We
are all got everybody. So it's and it's it's just
like that the kind of holographic nature of things. You know,
if you take a hologram, you know, of a person,
and you you know, cut it in half, you're not
going to get you know, the waist down portion of
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the hologram, You're going to get a half sized version
of the big hologram. So you know, like I think
our dimension is kind of almost like the hologram projected
into a disco ball, and like all these we're all little,
you know, just little pieces of the same source. And
you know, it's it's the ocean thing. When I had
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my experience, I felt like a glass of water being
poured back into the ocean. And I think we're all,
you know, glasses of water being separate from the ocean,
and this this thing we call death is just we're
just getting poured back into the ocean. There's there's nothing
to be afraid. I believe me. I know that. So
it's yeah, it's we are all reflections and pieces of
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that same source. And if more people knew that, we'd
have a lot less problems in the world.
Speaker 3 (42:33):
Oh absolutely, you know.
Speaker 2 (42:35):
You know, we're talking about spirituality and one of the questions,
one of the main question of this show is why now,
more than ever, are the people of the world awakening
to all things spiritual, metaphysical and enlightening.
Speaker 3 (42:49):
What is your thoughts on this? Why now?
Speaker 2 (42:51):
Why now more than ever seems any time in history
that humanity is awakening to all these beautiful things.
Speaker 5 (42:58):
Yeah, and you know, I think it is people are
starting starting to see through the the I believe all
religions are are built on a cracked foundation. You know,
they're all real pretty houses that look good. And my experience,
I wouldn't talk about any other religion, but I was
in Christianity for ten years and that is my experience
(43:19):
with it, is that it was this really pretty house
that helped me. You know, there's the world is a
world of gray and a source er sees the world
for what it is. It's a world of gray. It is.
You know that it is not black and white. Our
minds want to put things in the black and white box.
But the fact is is the Bible and things like
that are are both helpful and destructive. It's it's both
(43:42):
and and I think people are seeing through the the
the that cracked foundation of a lot of religions. For me,
it did help for a while, but it is built
on this foundation of fear and judgment. And when it
came down to it, and one of the last things,
my final straw, was all this bullshit programming that you know,
like if you're not going to church and you're not
(44:03):
a Christian, you're going to help. Well, my mother was
not a Christian and she never went to church, and
my last week with her alive was extremely traumatic because
not you know, of course her dying was traumatic, but
now I had this whole other additional thing on top
of it that all these program all these pastors, the
program made believe that she was going to help and
(44:24):
she was gonna suffer the rest of her life. So
instead of being like a shepherd to the afterlife, like
it would be now and I'd be super excited and like, mommy,
you're going to be out of pain, all this pain
you've been in your whole life. And you know, she
had a year of just you know, deteriorating and and
it was it was very horrible to watch and and
I would have been excited for Instead, I'm just sitting
there full of dread and fear and and and wondering
(44:46):
what's going to happen to her? And like, screw you
guys for for for making me like you ruined the
last week of my mother's death, like I And so
I think people are starting to see through like the
things in religion and starting spirituality is found and religion
(45:07):
is taught, and you know, religion causes separation and spirituality unites.
So I think that's what people are starting to see.
And it is very refreshing to see and and I
would like to see more of it. There's still a
whole lot of division and a whole lot to come through,
but you know, we could have. You know, a utopian
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society is very doable. People think it's impossible, it is.
It is doable. And there's something called the Maharishi effect,
which you know, if you can just get one percent,
one percent of a given society to kind of get
on the level with the things that we're talking about here,
and you know, the sorcery, indentation and shadow work and
all these concepts. One percent will change the will completely
(45:51):
change the construct of the organism. And the best example
is is you know, diet soda is ninety nine percent water,
and so you know that one percent sense completely alters
the liquid structure. Chimpanzees are one percent away from being human.
One percent doesn't sound like a lot, but it will
completely change. So if we can you know, let's not
(46:12):
focus on everybody, but if we can just get like
one percent of the American population to get kind of
on the level, it would completely change everything.
Speaker 3 (46:22):
Wow, that's cool.
Speaker 2 (46:23):
I haven't heard anybody talk about the Maharishi effect in
a long time, but it is, it's very valid, and
it really is true. But you know, going back to religion,
you know, I think what attracts me to true spirituality
and connection the source as opposed to organized religions in
the world, most of their organized religions, they're basic mission
(46:47):
is beautiful, but it's been controlled by man and changed
with the paradigms of judgment and power, and you know,
control of the masses, and that is completely distorted the
message of most organized religions in the world. So and
and for somebody like you and I, we both grew
(47:08):
up kind of with a blank slate.
Speaker 3 (47:09):
I didn't.
Speaker 2 (47:10):
I grew up in a household with no religion, never
went to church, never talked about it. You know. Our
household was an emotional blank like like your family.
Speaker 3 (47:19):
But but it gave me.
Speaker 2 (47:21):
A blank slate to allow me to grab onto these
beautiful concepts of light and love and truth and source
and expand it with myself.
Speaker 8 (47:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (47:33):
Yeah, it's it's it's it's a big it's it's a
big shift. I like it. But yeah, I grew up
in that and I kind of passively went to study
school a little bit, but you know, it was just
more of this thing of you sho go And once
I had to say, I just didn't. But it is that,
you know, Jesus, I believe. But but after I got
(47:53):
sober the first time, that's when things I just I
really was like, okay, well, Christianity is the way and
go because you know, I was, I was in a
Bible study when kind of I had, you know, a
small await, nothing near what I had the real awakening
but it was just kind of a small like, you know,
they prayed for me, and I kind of had this
nice jolt of you know, like, okay, all right, you know,
(48:14):
I'll start going to church and and and so you know,
I but now I realized, you know, Jesus doesn't want followers,
he wants peers. You know, I don't believe that Jesus
would even be on board with Christianity at all. It's
you know, from what it looks like he he came.
I believe his whole mission was to lead people away
(48:34):
from religion, not to create a whole new one. You know,
that's when he was walked. When he was on the earth,
the only people he couldn't really vibe with were the
religious leaders. And I think even came back, we'd have
the same issue. And you know, all these pastors and
things that think that they had they they they're sure
they know the deal and it is and it is
in the Bible, and it's just gotten so watered down
(48:57):
over time and and controlled. And people understand that they
can you know, make people feel really good. Okay, well,
now if you're aboard that, you have to listen to
what I say. And now when I say goes, and
so it has been completely distorted and the original, you know,
all all I think, all the religion, the original you know,
message is gone because it's it's been it's been taken
(49:21):
with power and control and kings and priests and and
all these you know, lots of there's a lot, a
lot of money to be made, there's a lot of
control to be done, and so it's been it's been
kind of shifted and taken over by you know, unfortunately,
by kind of power hundred people. And that's and that's
what we have.
Speaker 2 (49:40):
That wow, and that is why we were talking to
somebody like you, filled with light and love and truth.
We are talking and with having a very enlightening conversation
with Justin Shaw.
Speaker 3 (49:52):
This is pretty amazing.
Speaker 2 (49:54):
I wrote down a little note I wanted to bounce
back to We We mentioned addictions coming all forms in
the world that put us on autopilot, but.
Speaker 3 (50:05):
Uh, you mentioned phone addiction. You know, I'm beginning to think.
Speaker 2 (50:09):
That nobody is capable of walking down the sidewalk without
a phone in front of their face. You know, I
go running almost every day, and I'll be running in
a beautiful park on a beautiful spring morning and it's
glorious out and I have no earbuds in and I'm
saying hi to the trees and the birds and the flowers.
And somebody comes walking behind this beautiful day with a
(50:29):
phone in front of their face, oblivious to everything.
Speaker 3 (50:32):
But really, it is a global addiction.
Speaker 2 (50:35):
And it's not like I don't use my phone a lot,
but wow, it's it's incredible.
Speaker 3 (50:40):
I don't know where we go with it.
Speaker 5 (50:42):
Yeah, it's well, you know, Source cannot this is this
is good Source cannots. There's two types of focus. There's
convergent focus and divergent focus. And if you're constantly on
your phone, you're constantly in a convergent focus. Your attention
isn't here. In meditation, you're you're able to take that
focus and make a focus on everything and create a
(51:04):
diversion focus. Now, Source can actually speak to you because
if you're if you're a focus, which this is the
we live and we go from the phone to work
to TV to I mean, we are constantly in a
convergent focus. Until you sit down and take meditation and
kind of realize that divergent focus, Source will never be
able to speak. It can't. It's like we know our talk,
(51:27):
so we have to get out of that and and
to kind of explain divergent focus, it's it's it's as
if like if you were to be set in front
of it, or stood in front of a brick wall
with a blind fold on and take the blind folk off,
all you're gonna see is the blurry shader add and
you take a step back, you'll see a break. You
take a couple of steps back to see it. A
few breaks, take a couple of steps back, you see
it's a wall, and then maybe you take a few
(51:48):
more steps back, and then you see that this wall
is part of the magnificent castle. Now that blurry shader
red is now this in seeing castle because you've taken
some steps back. But that is the divergent focus. And
that is what I'd like, is you more I'm serving
The phones are and you.
Speaker 2 (52:06):
Know it's not only phones, you know, I see everybody
everywhere with these white sticks in their ear which attach
them and and you know even audio or when you're
running or walking and you have something always in your
ears and and it's prevent presents a kaka fani constantly
in your in your head where I think people are
(52:26):
afraid to listen to their own thoughts and and that's
why they always have something in their ears or in
their eyes.
Speaker 5 (52:34):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know it is. And and I'm
I'm one who likes I love my music when I'm
walking and like I said, resonate these kind of movie
scores and I kind of get into it and walking.
So but yeah, no, even I certainly, you know, like
I love to walk and run with with earbuds in
because the kind of keep it going. But but it
is like I I you know, I do walk my
(52:55):
dog more like I'll walk my dog and just purposely
leave them, you know, like just kind of especially in
our morning lots, like not to let people around. It's
it's just it's just nice to kind of be checked out.
So it's really good. And then walking, you know, is
a form of meditation if because we kind of do it,
you know that it's there's a million ways of meditating,
(53:17):
none of them wrong, but that is a form where
you just kind of check out and you just kind
of go for a walk and you kind of blink
your thoughts. I mean that's meditating.
Speaker 8 (53:25):
So but yeah, if your tension is constantly converged, don't
expect the source to ever talk to you because you're
just saying I'm busy.
Speaker 2 (53:33):
And in my running is my form of meditation, same
thing you kind of check out while you're running and everything.
Speaker 3 (53:40):
But well we're gonna wind up a little bit here.
Speaker 2 (53:42):
But uh, justin after living so much of your life
addicted and out of control, how do you now spend
your days?
Speaker 3 (53:49):
Are you constantly meditating? Are you doing.
Speaker 2 (53:52):
Workshops or are you plan to do that? Are you
coaching and doing speaking engagements?
Speaker 5 (53:57):
Yeah? I mean I would well, yeah, that's my focus.
So the book hasn't been out longed. Right now i'm
recording the audio. I probably start going back to I
was lucky enough to have kind of be able to
take out a board cass last year, and it's been able.
It's not a big amount, but it's been able to
have me focus on the book, completely focus on a
new career and starting starting that. So this year is
(54:19):
just about creating awareness around the book and then I
want to you know, this is the seed to plant
the career tree, so where it goes from here. I
still plan on doing more, but you know, my days
are very busy and full, especially right now with recording
the audio. I think I'm gonna i'll have, you know,
some more time to kind of be working. But I'm
excited to see where it's gonna take me because either
things I want to do. You know, it's it's big
(54:42):
for one person to kind of handle all this stuff,
but I just I know I need. I know, I
have a set of things to do. And it started
with this book. It's it's like people if you know,
people are only going to come see you if they
know who you are, so that this year is simply
about creating awareness of the book and and getting it
(55:04):
out there. So and and you know it's it's on Amazon.
But even if you can't afford it, you can you
can email me and I'll the good I'll send you
a free ebook. As it is, it's just about creating
awareness about it.
Speaker 2 (55:15):
Are you Are you recording that audiobook in a professional
studio or how No, I'm.
Speaker 5 (55:21):
Recording it here. I've just got I've got my microphone
and I kind of shut everything out and it sounds
it sounds pretty good, but it's not in a professional studio. Now,
I don't have access to that, but it's it's it's
good enough for now. If if there's a chance to
report in a professional studio, I'll do it all over again.
But you know, I purchased it. You know, it's just
(55:42):
kind of an online studio with you know, with the
mic here and my and my headphones, so it sounds
it sounds fine. You know, I'm sure a real studio
it would sound even better. But for now, this is
what this is what I'm gonna do.
Speaker 2 (55:57):
Well, that's so awesome and and I'll look forward to
hearing that. And so I encourage everybody to grab a
copy of Justin Shaw's new book, Sorcery one on one.
I will have a link to that in the in
the show notes, so you can do that. And Justin
what is what is your vision of how your book
(56:18):
affects the world and the people who read it?
Speaker 5 (56:21):
Well, I hope that it causes I know it can
it absolutely, it could change the world. I'm not saying
it's going to, but you know, I'm hoping it causes
some change. And the main thing I want to get
out of it is for people. First of all, it's
very enjoyable. It's a very enjoyable read, Like it's really
fun to read, laugh thing field That's the whole way
(56:43):
through and I'm hoping it's it gets out to people,
especially people that are really struggling and suffering like I was.
And the whole point of it is to set the
emotional bone right like like I talked earlier, like I
want to if we can, if I can be the
doctor and set your emotional bone and let the body
(57:03):
start to heal itself. And you know, it's it's it's
it's work, it's daily work. It doesn't happen all at once,
but it's after after you rewire your brain and that
europlasticity of making the inconnections in your brain and learning
things and changing. You know, it is your personality that
creates your personal reality.
Speaker 8 (57:22):
So uh, you know, if we start there in your
personal reality, that's that's what I really hope to bring.
Speaker 2 (57:30):
And that sounds wonderful. That is sure what the world needs.
So finally, what what's the best way for people to
connect with Justin Shaw if they would like to?
Speaker 5 (57:39):
Yeah, So I I just got back on social media
like a few days ago, like literally it was I
think three days ago. So I've been off social media
about four years. But I had my wakening. I just
deleted and you know that was really good for the time,
because you know, like a horse wearing blinders, I seem
to run a better race at that time. But now
I realize it's probably a good time to get back
(58:00):
on and connect with people. So currently I only have one.
It's Instagram and it's Sorcerer with You s O R
z r R Underscore thirteen on Instagram. You can email
me for a free ebook, which is a Sorcerer at
thirteen at Gmail the Wonderscore source for thirteen Gmail, and
(58:21):
then it's on Amazon. Yeah, you'll have the link, but
you can search on Amazon for the for the book itself.
Speaker 8 (58:27):
Sorcery one oh one thirteen runs to a higher relation consciousness.
Just put in the word sorcery for some reason. You
can put into the sorcery to the you and it
will be like the second one. Basically, there's a yeah,
there's a there's a kids book. It looks like a
kind of a Harry Spotter kids book thing. That's that's
spells it with the you.
Speaker 5 (58:44):
But that's only what we want. If you put in
sorcery one on one and Autocrats said a real sorcery
and send you two books. But apparently about it's becoming
a better pat SI. See that's fine. Justin Elshaw Yeah, yeah,
you can serve.
Speaker 3 (58:55):
For mine all right. Very cool and Justin Rna.
Speaker 2 (58:59):
Absolute blessing to have you here on World Awakenings.
Speaker 3 (59:02):
I appreciate a brother.
Speaker 5 (59:04):
Thank you, Yeah, thank you so much. Love it.
Speaker 1 (59:10):
This has been another episode of World Awakenings, The Fast
Track to Enlightenment with host Carl Gruber, a certified law
of attraction life coach. We welcome you to tune into
each and every episode of World Awakenings as we open
your mind, your heart, and your eyes to the fact
that the world's population is now more than ever awakening
(59:33):
to the truth of all things spiritual, metaphysical and enlightening
and just how much they play an all important role
in our moment to moment daily life. Much love and
light to you, my friend, and thank you for tuning
into World Awakenings.
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