May 4, 2025 • 60 mins
World Awakenings episode #204 meets up with one of the more well-known personalities in the spiritual & metaphysical world, Debbi Dachinger. She is a journalist, a certified shamanic practitioner, and has had UFO experiences. Although Debbi has been spiritual her whole life, she had a later-in-life awakening that led her on the path to explore the intricate connections between shamanism and extraterrestrial phenomena. It has changed who she is and her life's trajectory. She is the host the “Dare to Dream” podcast, focusing on extraterrestrials, channeling, UFOs, shamanism, and cutting-edge spirituality. Plus, she is a certified wine specialist, and lead singer in the band: Lions of Lyra. Debbi facilitates powerful private and group shamanic healing sessions, and she bridges the ancient and the extraordinary, where shamanic practices and extraterrestrial encounters intersect. And She has written several international bestselling books.This show has explored many different aspects and elements beyond our visible 3D world, and this show with Debbi Dachinger takes even further into realms we have never really explored before! Strap on your seat belt as Debbi takes you to places you've never been before!!
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To find out more about Debbi Dachinger just go to her website https://debbidachinger.com/
Check out Debbi Dachinger's YouTube channel of her show "Dare to Dream" https://www.youtube.com/@DebbiDachinger
If you wish to purchase any of Dr. Glen Swartwout's natural remedies, go to his website https://remedymatch.com/ and don't forget to use the code AWAKE to receive a 10% discount on your order.
To find out more about Debbi Dachinger just go to her website https://debbidachinger.com/
Check out Debbi Dachinger's YouTube channel of her show "Dare to Dream" https://www.youtube.com/@DebbiDachinger
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
This is World Awakenings, the Fast Track to Enlightenment with
your host Carl Gruber. World Awakenings is a podcast dedicated
to opening your mind, your heart, and your eyes to
the fact that the world's population is now more than
ever awakening to all things spiritual, metaphysical and enlightening and
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just how they play an all important role in our
daily life. So join Carl on this enlightening experience as
he interviews metaphysical and spiritual experts to discuss, debate, and
delve deeply into the house and whis of this world
wide awakening.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
World Awakenings is super excited to add this new feature
to each show as we welcome doctor Glenn Swartwold, known
as the Wizard of Wellness, to answer any and all
health related questions in his suggestion and how to heal
it in a natural and healthy manner. Now, one big
issue many people experience is something called sign you sitis,
(01:11):
which is basically a chronic inflammation and infection of the sinuses. Now,
how would you treat this issue, doctor Glenn?
Speaker 3 (01:20):
First, I have to be careful because we don't say
treat unless we have a license and we're working directly
with a person in person, you know, in that state
that's licensing that interaction. But you can treat yourself, and
if it were me, how I would The first thing
I would think of is a nasal stray, a sinus
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terrain nasal stray that I developed. It's basically a hypertonic saline.
Has some other ingredients that help with that are known
to help with sinusitis, but the base of it is
hypertonic saline, which even by itself has been shown.
Speaker 4 (01:57):
For example, when we were dealing.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
With COVID, they found that it made the sign it's
less susceptible to the virus, and it would do so
to other virus as well.
Speaker 4 (02:07):
You know, all the ingredients are natural.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
I think great fruit seed extract is one of the
anti natural antibiotics that's in there. Very broad spectrum and
non toxic. The wonderful thing about using natural therapies is
there's for example, there's almost nobody who ever dies from them,
maybe choking on a pill once every ten years. Or
there's a couple of herbs that the FDA has recognized
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so they can be dangerous. Yeah, certain herbs, I mean
there's toxic herbs, and there's toxic herbs that are used
in very low dose like in oriental medicine like aconite
monks should we use that in some of our formulas,
But I let people know it's set a very very
small dose, so it's a non toxic dose, and it's
also prepared in special ways to.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
Prevent any health problems.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
And that's not one of the one that's ones that's
come on the radar of FDA as a problem because
of that.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
So stimulants usually things that.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
People use for really fast weight loss that just aren't
healthy for you. But the sinus train nasal spray is
very very safe. You Basically it makes a mist fine mist.
You spray it in each nostril as you inhale through
the nose, and that this fine mist spreads throughout the sinuses,
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and both the herbal and nutritional ingredients as well as
the strong saline hypertonic saline it's called, are extremely beneficial
for both for cleansing the sinus and also the other
ingredients helping with whether it's viral or bacterial infection.
Speaker 4 (03:41):
It's prevented.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
Now. The underlying one of the other things that it
would recommend that we've talked about on other episodes is
the microbiome, because we have a microbiome in the gut,
but we also have it on our skin, we have
it in our sinuses, in our dental air, in their throat,
in our lungs. And so what I usually recommend to
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my clients is take our microbiome capsule, open it. Take
just a little bit of powder by mouth. That's going
to help the teeth, the gums, the mouth, the throat,
the sinuses, the lungs, the trachea. So for any kind
of offer respiratory issues, open your microbiome and close it again.
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Swallow that it's in an enteric capsule, so it'll go
through the stomach without the stomach acid destroying the microbiome,
and then open up in the alkaline environment of small intestine.
And it's important to note that most enteric capsules in
most drugs have an enteric coating. They usually most of
them use thalates PHDH. Thalate is a plasticizer. It's in plastics.
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It leaches out into our drinking water bottles. It's one
of the things that destroys the immune system. So avoid
plastic bottles with liquids, but any plastic bottles, you're better
off with glass bottles.
Speaker 4 (05:03):
They're safer.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
That's why we use only We use special deep violet
almost black glass bottles made in Belgium. It's like a
stained glass window violet deep deep violet, and that allows
in only the frequencies of light that keep it energized
and safe and clean, prevent bacteria and fungi from growing,
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and prevent the light. Most of the visible light will
break down the will oxidize the nutrients in a remedy.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
If you have that issue, take a listen to what
doctor Glenn said. So we hope you enjoy this feature
on natural and healthy treatments and healing with a Wizard
of Wellness Doctor Glenn's work.
Speaker 5 (05:46):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
Now, if you have a health issue you would like
to ask doctor Glenn, email them to me at kW
Gruber at yahoo dot com. Kwgruber at yahoo dot com
and we will nature your question on an upcoming show. Also,
if you would like to purchase any of doctor Glenn's
natural remedies, go to his website remedymatch dot com and
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put in this code for ten percent off Awake all
capital letters Awake to receive the World Awakenings discount and
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Speaker 5 (06:31):
Welcome, Welcome, welcome, my friends for.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
Once again joining us here on World Awakenings The Fast
Track to Enlightenment, a show that, since twenty eighteen has
been asking the question why, now, more than ever, are
the people of the world awakening to all things spiritual,
metaphysical and enlightening. In doing so, we have had the
beautiful opportunity to speak one on one with some of
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the world's greatest experts and teachers of these topics. Now, also,
don't forget that now you cannot only watch this show
on YouTube, but we are now honored to be under
brand new TV network, New Reality TV. Now let's head
off and meet our guest here on episode two four.
Debbie Dashinger is a journalist, a certified shamanic practitioner, and
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has had UFO experiences.
Speaker 5 (07:22):
Although Debbie has been.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
Spiritual her whole life, she had a later in life
awakening that led her on the path to explore the
intricate connections between shamanism and extra terrestrial phenomenon, which that
is very cool. We're going to check that out and
it has changed who she is in her life's trajectory.
She is the host of the Dare to Dream podcast
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focusing on extraterrestrials, channeling, UFO shamanism and cutting edge spirituality
and Plus, she is a certified wine specialist and a
lead singer in the band Lions of Lyra, so we'll
have to find out about that too. Debbie facilitates powerful,
private and group shamanic healing sessions, and she bridges the
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ancient in the extraordinary, where shamanic practices and extraterrestrial encounters intersect.
She has written several international selling, best selling books.
Speaker 5 (08:16):
We'll check that out too. With that, I am so
grateful and blessed to have you on the show, Debbie.
Thank you for being here.
Speaker 6 (08:23):
Oh, thank you so much. I'm excited to hang out
with you and have a chat.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Well, you know, I've been doing my research on you.
My gosh, you do so many amazing, beautiful things. But
I'm really curious, how did a young Debbie find herself
being on this incredible path of spirituality, shamanism, healing, and
being connected to our galactic beings and friends in different
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dimensions and universes.
Speaker 5 (08:52):
Were you interested in this as a youngster?
Speaker 6 (08:55):
Not at all.
Speaker 7 (08:56):
What I was as a youngster and pretty much since
I've been born is very spiritual, very very into the
healing arts and things like that. But I also had
certain separations and judgments specifically around extraterrestrials and UFOs, that's
for sure, and even a little bit around past life regressions.
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It was for some like a trigger for me when
I would always feel like if anyone brought up ets,
I'd be like, oh, like just really, I was so skeptical,
such an open minded skeptic.
Speaker 6 (09:30):
And you know, then God has the last laugh.
Speaker 7 (09:34):
So even though I was highly spiritual, I would say
one big awakening was when I started my radio show.
It'll be eighteen years ago in June, and I started
my radio show and I started to watch who was
coming on in the conversations I was having, and I realized,
oh wow, spirituality is my greatest value.
Speaker 6 (09:53):
It's so important. And so that was a big awakening.
Speaker 7 (09:56):
And then years later I started to some work outside
of this country and every night it was a four night,
back to back experience, and every single night the divine
came to meet me while I was in a very
expanded state, let's say, and she would say to me, Debbie,
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you're a shaman, you're a healer, and you're a priestess,
and I had no context for what she was talking about,
and so I argued with her and I said, no,
I'm not healer. Those would be my friends or people
who come on my podcast. Priestess, that's lovely, I don't
know what that means. And the shaman, for sure, because
I understood the decades that a shaman, a real shaman,
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would put into becoming who they were, and that they
were chosen by lineage and spirit and the community, and
none of that had happened to me. And so she
was very gracious. Every night she would come and say
the same thing over and over, and as she would come,
she would start to show me aspects of myself.
Speaker 6 (10:59):
And it was very.
Speaker 7 (11:00):
Wonderful, albeit confusing. And so when I got back here
to this country, I shared with a friend of mine
this confusion, and he said, well, why don't we do
some regressions for you and see what happens. And I
trusted this man. He was exemplary and what he did,
and so the first session he put me under, and
I saw myself immediately as a native male, a shaman,
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and it was a beautiful life. The next time he
put me under, I saw myself as a woman, a mayan,
leader of her people, living in a temple. And this
aspect of me was over seven feet tall, extremely skinny,
and I had what felt like an entire day with her,
and before I left, I wanted to ask her questions
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how she did the things she did.
Speaker 6 (11:46):
It was I'd never seen or been around somebody like her.
Speaker 7 (11:50):
And I was full of assumptions. And she shook her
head and she raised a finger and she telepathically said
to me, I am not from here. I am from
another galaxy. And he took me back out, and I
was like, wow, this thing I've judged extraterrestrials UFOs, all
of this life outside of Earth and I have been
separated from and been an eye roller to actually exists.
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And in fact, there are aspects of me who have
been this galactically species wise, and so this was a
huge opening for me. So here now I have this
UFO et thing, like what do I do with it?
And here I have this shamanic information that still isn't settled.
And I decided, look, I'm a journalist, I'm an aggregator.
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Let me go find the information. I'm so grateful I
took that path because I started enrolling in shamanic certification programs,
and they were long. They were not short, they were
not for the faint of heart, but they.
Speaker 6 (12:49):
Were really long. Six months one.
Speaker 7 (12:51):
Year, you know, adding thirty extra hours to my already
busy life.
Speaker 6 (12:56):
But I was fully in.
Speaker 7 (12:57):
And even though I joined for the information and was
I started massively changing healing and watching that as I
use these practices on other people, I was healing them.
And then I started receiving downloads that there was a
connection between the two, so I would follow it, and
I put together a project with six very prominent people
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around the subject, and none of them heard the other person.
None of them knew what the other person said in
the interview that I did and the footage that I got,
but they were all saying the same thing. So I
was onto something. And then I started being invited stages
around the world to speak about this, to deliver programs
about this. And this is where I live today. So
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it's been many years and now I do a lot
of shamanic healing programs, especially for groups I rather love that.
I just did a New Moon ceremony yesterday online for
a lot of people, and all of this to say,
so it was a great awakening, Carl was un expected.
It was not where I was headed, but it came anyway,
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And I am so grateful today looking back because of
the enormity of life shift and even inside of me
that has occurred because I followed this path, and I
really believe, at least for today, that this is my path.
There is something probably very ancient for me here, like
many lifetimes that I've been this and that I know
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this information. And I also think it's an auspicious time
on the planet with impending extraterrestrial visits and a lot
of shifts in that world, that this information starts getting
out to the public.
Speaker 6 (14:41):
So that's how I came to do what I do.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
Wow. Well, and you know I had read that you
had a later in life awakening, so you know, I
haven't had many guests who've had this flash cundlinea awakening,
but you sound like more of an unfoldment over a
period of time.
Speaker 7 (14:59):
Yeah, that's a good to say. It like a very
good way, because you could have called the divine a flash.
But I was arguing. I was arguing for my limitations,
but also like whoa what does that mean? And she
was very insistent that I get this information, and I
think the divine he she just trusted that when they
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delivered it to me, I was going to find my way.
Speaker 6 (15:24):
It was going to be.
Speaker 7 (15:24):
Intriguing enough, compelling, confusing enough that I would somehow find
my way on this path.
Speaker 6 (15:30):
And they were right.
Speaker 7 (15:31):
And I will say the other piece of it that's
kind of interesting is once I just surrendered and went
on the path, just like, let's find out what this is,
I would say. Very shortly thereafter, things started to open
up for me and unfold also in ways that were unprecedented.
As you said, some of my clients have been guests
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on your shows, and I know how to pitch people.
I know I do some of that for a living,
and I never pitched myself. I was just like, let
me find out what this is. And all of a sudden,
I'm getting invited to Mexico City for the World Ufology,
that all of a sudden, I'm hearing from guy a
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TV who wants to interview me. And now I've been
on twice and I have literally been all over the
world and on many podcasts that have reached out to me,
and I just I really feel humbled by the whole experience,
and I think it's extraordinary. Whatever machination this is, whoever
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is helping and orchestrating, I am grateful.
Speaker 5 (16:40):
Yeah, and I have that question.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
You're a facilitator and you know how to approach people
and talk to your journalists.
Speaker 5 (16:50):
Were you before all this happened? Were you? Did you
have a career in the media.
Speaker 7 (16:56):
Yeah, I did so. I've had a few careers in
my life. I have been a professional actress and singer
and that went for a very long time. And when
that something well into my adulthood kind of kicked back.
It was also confusing. I didn't know what to do
with that, and I got to a point where I thought, well,
this is this is so unknown to me. I think
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I will surrender. And thankfully, you know, in a three
year period of following excitement, I ended up in radio.
And when I ended up in radio, I started writing
books and this whole media career took off on its own.
And you know, it's been a real blessing because I
work with spiritual messengers. I then became a book coach,
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and then I have a company that takes books to
a guaranteed international bestseller and I have a small always
small amount of people that I do pr work for,
specifically getting them booked on podcasts, and it's been good
to me. You know, I wasn't looking for anything else.
I was like, this is goal and I get even
in my show to get to hang out with Pep
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and get information that is really edifying and interesting. But
I think something else was meant for me, And if
I were to be honest.
Speaker 6 (18:09):
It's kind of coming up in answer to your question.
Speaker 7 (18:12):
Along the way, I had had a few channels on
my show, and these beings that would come through them
would say to me, you know, Debbie, you've been shining
a light on people for a long time, but really
you're meant to be in the spotlight.
Speaker 6 (18:28):
And I was very reticent. I was like, I don't.
Speaker 7 (18:32):
Know, I'm kind of happy here. But they would say
that enough people are enough. Beings would say that to me,
and I hadn't thought about this in a long time.
Speaker 6 (18:43):
It sort of was prophesies.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
If you will, wow, well, you know you were meant
to be in the spotlight. I mean, you were an
actress and a singer for a long time and you're
in the spot like there, so hopefully you can transmute
that to what you do and you have done done that,
but you know.
Speaker 5 (19:01):
It's interesting too. We've both been in radio.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
I definitely took a longer different path than you, but
I love the career and now we're both in front
of the camera.
Speaker 5 (19:11):
But I want to go back because you know, so.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
Much of you is about the extraterrestrials and UFOs, and
you've talked about have you had some personal encounters with
UFOs and any of them.
Speaker 5 (19:24):
Super memorable or you want to talk about.
Speaker 7 (19:27):
Yeah, I'd be happy to I have had many UFO
experiences and it's been very very well timed, I will say,
very slow, but revealing and kind of fun and mysterious.
I think the first time I had a UFO experience,
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I was out with some friends in Joshua Tree, which
is a place that is known for a lot of
craft sightings, and we were working to well early in
the morning and the pitch black the foot of the mountains,
and we were meditating and doing all the Stephen greer
Ce five Close Encounters of the fifth kind things to
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bring in the extraterrestrials. Well, we had a beautiful evening,
but nothing happened, so we left in our truck. It
was two in the morning, and it's a long drive
back to Los Angeles. It's about four hours from Joshua Tree,
and there was a considerable amount of traffic on this
Saturday evening at two am, and the two gals in
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the back were asleep.
Speaker 6 (20:31):
I purposely forced myself to stay.
Speaker 7 (20:34):
Awake so that I made sure the drivers stayed awake.
And while we were driving, we were on the ten
Freeway and all of a sudden, boom, a craft came
right in front of the truck.
Speaker 6 (20:46):
Visually, it was huge.
Speaker 7 (20:48):
It had no propulsion, no movement lights, and I I
was hitting the driver and saying pull over, pull over,
pull over, because I wanted to be as close as
possible to it. Well, he couldn't pull over because there
was so many trucks and cars on the road.
Speaker 6 (21:07):
So at the time.
Speaker 7 (21:08):
When I'm telling him to pull over, I also with
my voice, had woken up the two gals in the
back seat.
Speaker 6 (21:14):
Everybody now is awake.
Speaker 7 (21:16):
Everybody's freaking out going this is awesome, pulling out their
phones and it was a bit of time till we
could pull over safely on the side of the road.
We took as many videos as we could as many
photographs as we could. And here's the crazy thing, Carl.
Not one other car or truck or being saw the
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spacecraft but us.
Speaker 6 (21:40):
And that, by the way, is a lot.
Speaker 7 (21:43):
Often what happens to people, it somehow is meant for
them to see. And so we stood there on the
side of the road watching it. It felt sentient, and
then at some point it shifted over onto its side
and then glided over toward the sixty freeway. We got
back into our truck and decided, well, I guess it's
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time to drive home, and at tracked us for a
while and then was just disappeared. So that was my
very first foray, and I've had other I don't know
how many experiences you want to hear, but really extraordinary.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
Yeah, well that's interesting. And it almost seems like because
your energy and your willingness to connect with them attracted them.
Yet it's like they cloak themselves to the people who
don't have that energy, and the ones who are there
and want to see them, it looks like they reveal
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themselves to you.
Speaker 6 (22:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (22:44):
I've even had them reveal themselves to me through my
cell phone because I was still new enough to all
of this we were in another experience. We're out in
Arizona and we were in Sacred Land.
Speaker 6 (22:59):
We had permits to be.
Speaker 7 (23:00):
There was pitch pitch black in the desert, and we
were doing contact work and at some point we all
took a break and I just thought, well, I have
no idea what anything looks like here, so why don't
I use my cell phone and I'll just take some pictures.
Speaker 6 (23:18):
It might be interesting cactus. I don't know what's there.
Maybe you know the moon.
Speaker 7 (23:22):
I'm creative, and so I was taking pictures without a flash.
Of course, that means, especially in the pitch black, you
hold your cell phone for what feels like minutes so
enough light comes into the lens to take the photo.
And I saw this tree was extraordinary tree, and up
above you could see the stars through the tree, and
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I thought that would be a really cool artistic picture.
And I kept attempting to take a photo of the
stars through the branches over and over, and I thought, ah,
my finger is getting in the way of this photo.
And I finally took a breath and stopped and I
went I just changed directions and I went out the
complete other way because there was a fence and I thought, well,
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what's beyond this fence, so I took pictures there too.
Later on, I was looking through my phone again and
I called over the woman who was in charge, and
I said, wow, this is unreal.
Speaker 6 (24:16):
Take a look at this. So what had happened with the.
Speaker 7 (24:19):
Tree and the branches? And I never did get a
picture of those stars.
Speaker 6 (24:24):
There was this.
Speaker 7 (24:25):
Huge globe, milky creamy with Pastelle colors, blues and purples
going through it. Now, off, here's this is the picture,
and off at the bottom on the right is a
little orb you might say, an angel orb. Yes, and
then you can, you know, kind of see there's dirt,
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and you can kind of see the outline of a tree,
but then you can't see the rest of the tree
because there's this enormous globe. It is not an orb
way bitterer, way different. And it took years before I
was able to ask somebody in the know who knows
these things.
Speaker 6 (25:04):
And I said, what is this?
Speaker 7 (25:06):
Because I had an assumption about what that was too,
And she said that was a species that understood your
vibration much to your point, understood your vibration and was
very interested in you. And I thought, well, that what
a beautiful species that was. And interestingly enough, when I
looked at the next picture, the one that I had
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shot beyond the wooden gate out to the what I
thought was nothingness, there was a spacecraft in the sky.
And so these are the very gentle ways they came
into my life. And now today, honestly, my boyfriend and
I will be driving to San Diego from Los Angeles
and back we see spacecraft in the sky. And there's
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been many other episodes, and I love it. I love
that they have some awareness and that in their just
to way they're making contact.
Speaker 6 (26:01):
I appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
Well, sure sounds like your drives on the highways are
not boring. Oh my gosh. Wow, And you didn't let
me ask you when you shot those pictures with your phones.
You didn't see those beings of orbs at the time
you shot the picture.
Speaker 5 (26:20):
It wasn't until you saw the photo on your phone.
Speaker 7 (26:23):
That's exactly correct. With the naked eye, I couldn't see anything.
I wouldn't have even known it was there.
Speaker 5 (26:29):
Wow. Super interesting.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
Well, we are talking to the amazing Debbie Dashinger, Oh
my gosh, host of the incredible show Dare to Dream Now.
Speaker 5 (26:39):
Debbie you're also very tuned.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
In and aligned with the native indigenous peoples of the world. Now,
I saw you just did an interview on guy A
TV with host George nor who also hosts the famous
radio show Coast to Coast where you talk about the
hope Indians.
Speaker 5 (26:56):
Can you tell us about that?
Speaker 7 (26:58):
Hmm okay, yes, So first I just want to say, George,
I actually got him to come on my show so
about a month ago.
Speaker 6 (27:09):
If anybody wants to check that out.
Speaker 7 (27:10):
That was such a great coup for me because I
love George.
Speaker 6 (27:15):
He's a legend.
Speaker 7 (27:16):
He's opened the pathway for you, me and so many
other people in this field, and I think the world
of him. So yes, the beautiful George Norie. I just
went back a second time for a different conversation on
GYA and I want.
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about the Hopies and so specifically this is so cool.
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I'll start with this because there's a lot of information,
but the Hopey Indians were one of the races, one
of the species, if you will, on Earth, that were
saved during one of the catastrophes that we've had over
the history of our Earth.
Speaker 6 (28:34):
We have had three.
Speaker 7 (28:35):
Different catastrophes, massive cataclysms that wiped out all living beings,
full flora, fauna, everything, and we started all over again.
Speaker 6 (28:49):
And one of them were the floods.
Speaker 7 (28:52):
And so the Hopey Indians, what are we going to do?
Everybody knows it's impending doom. And these beings came from
subterranean caves and they are called the ant beings. And
the ant beings came out of the caves to save
the Hopey Indians. This is a well documented story. And
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the hope Indians were so grateful because they didn't know
where to go with a flood coming, and they were
taken in these subterranean caverns, and they were shown how
to have food, how to store food, and they lived
amongst them very peacefully, very gratefully, for a long time,
for generations, until it was safe to come back out
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into the earth. It's such a deep subject, these ant people.
I'll tell you the first time I heard this, Carl,
I was like a big eye roller.
Speaker 6 (29:50):
I wanted to tell this.
Speaker 7 (29:51):
Person that they were crazy. Who was sharing it with me?
They were not sharing about the Hopes. They were sharing
another ant being story. However, this person work for the
the German government in specifically UFOs and extraterrestrials. He had
deep information, so I thought I need to at least
do some research, and I've been blown away. I've got
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documents about them. Sometimes it is said in myth that
the ant people just picture an ant have very skinny
wastes because they were so generous with the Hopies in
feeding them and taking care of them till they were
okay enough to come back out to the world to
repopulate restart.
Speaker 6 (30:36):
And they're giant.
Speaker 7 (30:38):
They are like nine to fifteen feet tall, and so yeah,
that's the hope, that's the Hopies, and that's an amazing story.
And if you go to there's some beautiful places where
their old dwellings are out, like in the Arizona, Utah
(30:58):
area Chococion, and you can find these drawings on the
caves and literally see depictions of the ant beings.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
Wow, what an amazing story. I recently had amber Wolf
on in she talks about the Lumerians who live in
Mount Shasta. So evidently there's you know, there's a number
of cultures or beings who live in the subterranean world
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of the War of Earth.
Speaker 7 (31:32):
More than we know, more than even I know, even
though that's a huge fascination for me right now and
I am more and more getting information. Yes, what Amberwolf
was talking about was the Tellos who lived and that's
their names from Lemuria, whose.
Speaker 6 (31:49):
Essence, if you will, they're often not seen by us.
Speaker 7 (31:53):
All these beings I'm talking about, they vibrate at such
an advanced level that we don't see them, but once
a great while someone will. And I know someone who's
taken a picture of an aunt being like she was
like really freaked out, not fully understanding what was happening,
took a picture and got the heck out of there.
There is a lot of talk that there's a lot
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of government that it's always weird getting into this stuff,
but anyway, there's a lot of government that is doing
some work out in Florida right now, and that there
are ant beings there for sure.
Speaker 6 (32:31):
And I'll give you another like kind of very interesting
piece that.
Speaker 7 (32:37):
In the Native American language, an Anu means ant and
naki means friend. So Anu naki right for ant friend,
which is very interesting because we are deeply seated genetically
by the Annunaki a long time ago, four hundred and
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fifty thousand years ago, and so there is definitely a
connection between the ant beings and the Annaki.
Speaker 2 (33:07):
Wow, just some amazing information. And this is blowing me
away here. This is incredible.
Speaker 5 (33:13):
Thank you, Debbie. You know, I'm curious about this.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
Is there a spiritual aspect to our contact and connection
to these extraterrestrial races. I mean, I've had a number
of channels on my show, and many of the beings
who come through these channels claim to be ascended masters
who reside in higher planes and dimensions. I mean, you
just talked about some of them vibrating at higher planes
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that we can't even see.
Speaker 5 (33:41):
Is it true?
Speaker 2 (33:41):
Then?
Speaker 6 (33:43):
Oh yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 7 (33:44):
And you know sometimes people say, well, you know, why
don't they just land? I mean, it's very American kind
of talk, why don't they just land? And you can
tell people have been watching a lot of television and
film and their influence more by that than by the reality.
Speaker 6 (33:59):
But the thing is these.
Speaker 7 (34:00):
Are advanced civilizations. I think when you have the channels
come on your show and they're talking about this. There's
several components. One of most important, we are genetically connected
to these beings. There's not a separation us in them.
There's actually a deep connection to these beings. Many of
them seated us genetically after the Anonaki did what they did,
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they came in. We have thousands of strains of genetics
from advanced extraterrestrial benevolent species, and so that's one thing.
The other thing is, yes, because they're so advanced, they
don't have to be in these dense meat suits, and
so it is difficult for them often to come and
be with us, right because they have to vibrate.
Speaker 6 (34:43):
It's such a low vibration and frequency.
Speaker 7 (34:46):
It's difficult for them, many of these beings, and it's
I think beyond comprehension. But I'd like to comprehend it
at some point, but they are very etheric in nature.
So there's also underground reptilians who live I think this
is big. And then also inside of our oceans. And
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it's not just that there are beings there. Some of
them don't care about us.
Speaker 6 (35:11):
They have their own.
Speaker 7 (35:12):
World under there. They want it that way. They're doing
their own work, their own science experiments, et cetera. But
they also have portals. So in these caves, in these
underground water places, oceans way deeper than what we currently know,
there are a lot of beings who also reside on
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the earth.
Speaker 5 (35:34):
Oh wow, whoa just so yeah, there's something like that.
I've got a chew on for a little bit.
Speaker 7 (35:40):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (35:40):
Just amazing.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
Of course, you know, I've got to ask you this.
I mean, your show Dared Dream. You've had it eighteen years.
You've hosted this show now, I mean podcasts haven't been
around that long, so that it started as a radio
show and then became a TV show podcast.
Speaker 7 (35:59):
Yeah, yeah, I know, I know if you know Burbank, California,
but that's where I live now, and that's where my
show started. I didn't live here at the time, but
Burbank is very well known for entertainment and for radio.
And I was at a beautiful station, absolutely beautiful station
and indie station, and I ran my show. It was
still called Dare to Dream, and it was more spiritual
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based in the beginning, and so that's as I went along.
I mean, it was quite joyful for me, the learning,
the conversations, the masterclasses. And then yes, this word came around. Gosh,
now it must be like twelve years ago, and it
was this word podcast, and you know, people made fun
of it and said, what is that, It's never going
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to last.
Speaker 6 (36:44):
I was kind of intrigued, so I thought, well, I'll
do that too. Let's just see.
Speaker 7 (36:47):
I mean, it's sort of my show is a ready syndicated,
but this is just another way.
Speaker 6 (36:51):
To do it.
Speaker 7 (36:51):
Boy, am I glad I did so. You know today
I am still on podcast, YouTube, Spotify, iHeart all the
same syndicated places, but I remain having a foot in
radio on BBS Radio and also one O two point
seven FM in New York.
Speaker 6 (37:10):
And I like it that.
Speaker 7 (37:11):
Way, you know, so I can reach the people who
are interested in this conversation. But yes, I started doing
both and then I know, you know, like when podcasts
became clear, this is viable. There are millions rolling out,
There are more and more people. I would watch the statistics.
Speaker 6 (37:30):
All the time.
Speaker 7 (37:32):
We're in the beginning. People would say, do you know
what a podcast is?
Speaker 5 (37:36):
Hmmm?
Speaker 7 (37:36):
Nobody knew, right, it was just a modicum of people.
And then time went by and you saw these statistics, these.
Speaker 6 (37:43):
Numbers growing exponentially.
Speaker 7 (37:46):
Everybody was hearing about podcasting, everybody was interested.
Speaker 6 (37:49):
Everybody wanted a podcast. And then even like the numbers.
Speaker 7 (37:54):
I haven't checked this year, but I know last year
it was over five million podcasts.
Speaker 5 (37:59):
I believe it. Uh yeah, wow, wow.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
Well, you know you you obviously have a face or TV.
I always said I had a face for radio when
I was but that's another Uh got.
Speaker 6 (38:11):
A great voice.
Speaker 7 (38:12):
It's wonder about a great matter. I get what you
are on radio for so long.
Speaker 5 (38:16):
Thank you. I love it. I still love it. But
you know, let's go back. I saw a clip I
think this is on your website.
Speaker 2 (38:23):
You have a clip of you interviewing Michael beck With
at a live event.
Speaker 5 (38:27):
He's just one of them, and.
Speaker 2 (38:28):
He stated that the shift has hit the fan, and
it really does seem that a shift has taken place
in the world and its people. Now, in your opinion,
what exactly is this shift that is now taking place? Mmmm?
Speaker 7 (38:43):
Yes, so I'll if it's okay with you, I'll take
it from the shamanic point of view. Yeah, that interview
was red carpet and I had some extraordinary transformational.
Speaker 6 (38:55):
Leaders that I got to spend time with. It was
a LoveFest.
Speaker 7 (38:59):
I really enjoyed it, and Michael is just a beautiful being.
The shift from I'm going to specifically go Peruvian Andean,
the Inca Cairo people. So they have something These are ancient,
ancient people, and they have something called the patcha kuti,
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and every five hundred years is a different patchakuti pacha
which many people associate with Mama meaning pacha Mama mother Earth,
but in this case, patcha kuti means patcha time kuti change.
So this is a time of change pachakuti. And in
this particular they've all been different, not a myth, very true.
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And they knew, these people knew over two hundred and
fifty years ago that this was coming, and they said
there will come a time.
Speaker 6 (39:49):
Now.
Speaker 7 (39:49):
Every Native American, every indigenous culture, has their different form
of this prophecy, and they all have been talking about
this from the inception of their people, knowing what we
are living through right now is to be lived through.
That are our souls chose to come here at this time,
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very interesting time to be alive on earth. And so
with a patchyakuti it means a shakeup, a chaos. Something
different is about to emerge, and before it emerges, we
need to shake up what's already here.
Speaker 6 (40:29):
That means that.
Speaker 7 (40:30):
A lot of things are going to come to the
forefront that we have chosen not to look at. Politics, wars,
the way we treat our children, the way we treat
our waters, our skies, corporate greed, all sorts of things,
sexual misappropriation, many things are coming up to be looked
(40:52):
at and dealt with, healed, so we can make other choices.
Speaker 6 (40:57):
And not be like that.
Speaker 7 (41:00):
Sides with the rise of the divine feminine that the
North and the South will finally come together, and as
the Peruvians say, the eagle and the condor will finally
fly together. And really it is a time Carl where
with this great shift that we're in to stop living
in the mind we have been so trained that this
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is super safe, like hang out here, you can figure
everything out, But do we know has it created the
world we want to live and know how we treat
other humans? Know there is one answer, And this stuff
is so ancient and I think so obvious, but so important.
The heart, the heart, the divine feminine, the gentility and
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the power, and the reception, the healing, the being responsible.
It is time to take the really long walk from
the head down to the heart. And the other piece
is to end the separation that we are really deeply
in with a source energy of which we are, that
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the earth is very much alive, and to stop abusing
her as a resource. She is the greatest mother most
of us will ever have, even if you had an
amazing mother or have, But she is so powerful and
loving and we live on her and she houses us
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and feeds us and clothes us. And animism is a
big important part of this. To know that every bird,
every plant, every rock, every river, sky, moon, every single
thing is alive.
Speaker 6 (42:43):
Has a soul.
Speaker 7 (42:45):
We are not disconnected, We truly are one with everything.
And when we can remember the heart, the honoring and
respect from Mother Earth and all living and non living things,
this is the great change, for the great shift. This
is where we come back into harmony, into healing of
the planet, of ourselves, so that we may also be
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awake and available for the healing of everybody else collectively.
And I believe that's why all of us agreed to
be here right now.
Speaker 2 (43:17):
Debbie, thank you because some of the things you just
said are so loving and wise, and I so appreciate
what you did there. We're talking again to Debbie Dashing
or just an incredible lady, host of the Dare To
Dream TV and show and podcasts. One more thing, just
one last thing about shamanism. We talk about shamanism. Is
(43:40):
shamanism really just spirituality, but not in the usual form
the Western mind thinks about it.
Speaker 3 (43:47):
No, it is.
Speaker 6 (43:49):
Thank you for the question. It's a great question.
Speaker 7 (43:51):
And I appreciate it always because it's such a big
word these days, and I think it's important when I
say what I do, it's because I feel incredible respect
and I want to pay so much homage to these
beautiful beings. The funny thing is that shamans never choose
to be a shaman. They're chosen by their lineage, by spirit,
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by the community. And when they're chosen, they have to
go through these initiatory rites that most of us may
not make it out the other side. They always have
some kind of death experience and rebirth. So it could
be near death, it could be a mental illness, it
could be being struck by lightning. And some of them
go into a psychic trance and they see this ferocious,
(44:39):
very terrifying animal. They are eaten and dismembered, and then
at some point they're blown back into being with wild
talents and then they continue. It takes decades and decades
of work of discipline to basically serve their community, to
serve the planet. Very much in touch with extraterrestrials. They
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have been since the beginning of time. I do not
believe that the Indigenous people are originally from this planet.
I believe they're from the planet well a lot, but
not only but a lot of them are from Maya,
Maaia and the Plei Eightes, and there's a lot of
healers that come from there. And shamanism is unbelievable because
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they transcend this reality to bring back the healing and
the wisdom that they do. They do interact with extraterrestrials.
They've been family and had relations with them since the
beginning of time, and they also shape shift.
Speaker 6 (45:37):
They do pretty extraordinary things.
Speaker 7 (45:41):
And I don't know that any of us will ever
know unless we were them, what it is like for
them to transcend this reality, to go where they do,
to pull back the information.
Speaker 6 (45:51):
But they have been healers, maybe the original healers. And
I'll tell you something interesting.
Speaker 7 (45:58):
Shamanism started in the Paleolithic times, and the first shamans
were women, lady oracles, and so it wasn't until millennia
later that men said I want to learn how to
do that, and they did. And that's why in Siberia
the word shaman samon means one who knows, and the shamans,
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the males in Siberia often dressed like women to pay
homage to the first divine goddesses who did this work.
Speaker 5 (46:27):
Oh man, I just realized, my cat is an et.
Her name is Maya.
Speaker 2 (46:33):
But you know, speaking to shamanism, I mean, going back
to that video you did at the red carpet event
in La I saw you getting hugged by a real shaman.
Don Miguel Ruiz, who wrote the Four Reasons and his
whole family is our true shamans. But you know shamanism,
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I think in the modern world was actually introduced more
in the early seventies when Carlos not I wrote the
series of books on the teachings of Don Juan. I
remember reading that when I was a hippie in college.
I go, whoa baby, this is incredible. But that was
really an opening to shamanism to the rest of the world.
Speaker 7 (47:14):
It's so interesting you bring up Carlos Castaneda, because yeah,
I also read his books. I mean, wow, influential and
mind blowing and all that. And one of the things
he was known for is to do these vision quests.
And it's very interesting you say this, because this is
I'm now in a shamanic program, as I shared with
you Patch Katy mesa tradition, and this is the second
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time it happened years ago in another program, and I
know it's coming up in a couple of weeks, we're
meeting again where they're going to ask me to do
a vision quest.
Speaker 6 (47:45):
And I didn't do the first one because I was
just I.
Speaker 7 (47:47):
Too frightened as a woman to go hang out like
in the wild by myself, no water, no food, or
maybe they give you water, but there's no food.
Speaker 6 (47:57):
I don't really care. So much about the fasting.
Speaker 7 (47:59):
I know it's not comfortable, but you'll come back to
you know, you'll come back to your community and you'll
be fine.
Speaker 6 (48:05):
After a few days.
Speaker 7 (48:06):
But it's more than being alone. But it's coming up again,
and so this is something I'm gonna have to channel
Carlos Castaneda because he did it a lot and he
had some extraordinary experiences, and so I know, if it
keeps coming to me, I'm going to have to face
the vision quest head on and probably go do it.
Speaker 5 (48:28):
Oh my gosh, I might have to go on one
of those with you. My gosh, that sounds amazing.
Speaker 2 (48:33):
But yeah, because I remember Carlos cous not a writing
about Don Juan doing shape shifting like you were talking
about and just amazing down there in a sonor in
desert in Mexico. But shamans are all over the world.
But well, oh my gosh, Debbie, this is amazing. We
most definitely have to talk about your numerous books, but
especially Dare to Dream This Life Counts. Tell us about
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that book and how it came about.
Speaker 7 (48:59):
Oh, you know, well, because I was on radio. I
wanted to reach more people. So I was on radio
and I'm hearing from people all over the world saying
I love your show.
Speaker 6 (49:08):
I listen.
Speaker 7 (49:09):
My sister in law at the time was a psychotherapist
and she would have clients come and mention me, and
they didn't realize because she uses a different last name.
They didn't realize we were related and we're very close.
And so it just started becoming a thing, and I thought,
how can I reach more people?
Speaker 6 (49:26):
I want to write a book.
Speaker 7 (49:28):
A book gets out there pretty wide and far, and
so I wrote this book. It did what I wanted
it to do. I'm still so proud of that book
because dare to dream.
Speaker 6 (49:38):
This life counts. My first book literally is about.
Speaker 7 (49:43):
How to create any dreams. And here's what's incredible. I
just had that book and my second book, Wisdom to Success,
turned into audibles. It's been a dream of mine to
finally go past the print book, past the Hindley book,
and finally get to Audible. So both of them are
available on Audible. They may still be free right now.
(50:06):
They were in a beta test, so if anybody wants
to check it out under my name, you just got
to smell my name, right d Ebbi da Chi n
gr It's lovely.
Speaker 6 (50:17):
I listen to it myself, and I'm like, it's.
Speaker 7 (50:19):
Evergreen, It's still this is still viable information. So that's
how I started writing books, and it's I know I've
got another one, but it's going to be at least
next year busy. I'm a ready booked next year, like
five different countries to speak. So I will see how
(50:41):
the pacing goes. If it's not next year, the next year,
the year after. But I know this will be a
personal book that I'll be putting out that will be
some of my experiences with plant medicine, with shamanism, and
a little bit more memoir esque.
Speaker 2 (50:57):
Wow, as busy as you are, and it makes me
even more goodful you were able to fit in time
to do this show.
Speaker 5 (51:03):
I appreciate it. But yeah, just incredible too.
Speaker 2 (51:08):
And you know, I've been wanting to turn my book
into audible and there's so many different ways. I do
have a microphone. But we're going to kind of wind
up a little bit here. I do have I think
a very important question here. What are your thoughts on
the seemingly ever increasing interest in UFO sightings in you know,
the grand media. Are we getting closer to making legitimate
(51:31):
contact with our galactic friends. I mean on a widespread basis,
not them, just to the people who are interested. I mean,
it's got to be some form of contact that won't
cause widespread fear.
Speaker 6 (51:44):
Yes, yes, we are. We are.
Speaker 7 (51:46):
The simple answer is, yes, we are absolutely unequivocably we
are getting to that. That is why you're seeing more
whistleblowers come forward, because they actually have the okay from
the government to start dripping this information. The government has
such a thing about us being afraid, and maybe for
(52:07):
good reason, I don't know certainly, if there's good reason,
it's because movies have portrayed these beings coming to do
things to us that frankly, only we would do to us,
like kill us and eat us. But most of these
advanced civilizations have no interest in that, no interest in
conquering us. Why, you know, it's a huge cosmos. So yeah,
they're like I said, they are genetically our relations. And
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some people don't understand, well, what do they see in us?
I mean, if they're so advanced, they see a lot
in us. We are very interesting people, and what they
see in us are people of emotion, and not all
of these civilizations have emotion like we do. Certainly the
Grays genetically mastered themselves with zero emotion, and so they're
(52:54):
trying the Grays realize, well, that didn't work, so they're
trying to bring it back into themselves. Thus why there
were so many abductions.
Speaker 6 (53:01):
And further, they have.
Speaker 7 (53:04):
Had since the nineteen forties agreement with the government, you know,
the US and all the other countries.
Speaker 6 (53:09):
In the world.
Speaker 7 (53:11):
Look, you give us, We'll give you some advanced technology.
You let us do this, and there have been agreements
and we won't you know, overall bother your people. We'll
sort of slip in and out. But much like you
just said, Carl, exactly, the incidences arising, the awareness is rising,
and you're starting to see more and more with the
government around disclosure. You're starting to see more and more
(53:33):
whistleblowers coming forward and speaking truth as much as they
can and have agreed to speak. And this stuff is important,
you know, and shows like mine, and there's other people
doing great jobs out there getting this information. There's tons
of events. I'm going in one month to contact in
the desert, huge event every year.
Speaker 6 (53:54):
It's been going on for like.
Speaker 7 (53:55):
Decades, and this is the whole subject. Experts from around
the world.
Speaker 6 (53:59):
Come and speak.
Speaker 7 (54:00):
Can I believe based on what I've heard that the
extraterrestrials have said to our government. We have been patient
and we have adhered to what you've asked of us,
but you have not kept up your part of the
bargain and told the people the truth. And so we
will be coming and we don't want it to be
(54:23):
like this, but we're going to leave it up to you.
It's incumbent on you to start disseminating the truth, and
I think that is why it's picking up more. But
I also think, like this great shift you mentioned earlier,
this is part of it.
Speaker 6 (54:36):
This is part of the.
Speaker 7 (54:37):
Web of many of us waking up and understanding this
is real, this is happening, and it can be so
beautiful when we finally become part of the galactic community.
Speaker 2 (54:50):
Well, I really appreciate your explanation on that, because obviously
it's a huge topic.
Speaker 5 (54:55):
More and more and more than ever.
Speaker 2 (54:57):
Debbie, Wait, We're gonna want just one completely off the
UFO thing. Maybe maybe not being an actress and a singer,
I say, you're still the lead singer in.
Speaker 5 (55:09):
A band called Lions of Lyra. Wow. Is there a
video on YouTube? Or can we hear any of your work?
Speaker 6 (55:16):
Oh yeah, there is, thank you for asking. We do.
Speaker 7 (55:18):
If you go to Lions of Lyra l Yra, we're beings,
lion beings and also a planet before it was destroyed.
Just go there on YouTube Lions.
Speaker 6 (55:29):
Of Lira and it's free. You can listen. Yeah, we perform.
Speaker 7 (55:34):
We do galactic soundbaths and then we've got amazing transformational
people who will bring us into their events and so
we'll perform before people speak. So many different gigs we do,
it's really fun. I had given up singing when I
got into radio. I thought, God, there is no time
I'm writing books. I'm doing radio. And I gave up singing.
(55:56):
I left the band I was in, and I've been
singing since I was a little girl. But I was
very at peace. And then I was, you know, one
of the many other awakenings that I had, where the
divine came and said.
Speaker 6 (56:07):
What happened to music? And I didn't know.
Speaker 7 (56:10):
I didn't know what to say, and I it was
sort of a shrug. And I happened to be working
with a shaman. I said, wow, this thing happened, and
I told him, you know, the divine asked this question,
and he said, the music never left you, Debbie, start
doing it again. So Rob picked up his guitar. I
started singing, this is I mean, it's not that long ago,
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it's only five and a.
Speaker 6 (56:33):
Half years ago.
Speaker 7 (56:35):
And boom, you know, we just like one month later
started getting booked at gigs and it's been fun, and
it's especially fun sometimes, Like I'm speaking on a cruise
next year. It's a mystery school cruise to Turkey and Greece,
and so.
Speaker 6 (56:52):
If you want to come, I'll give you I'll give
you the website. Yeah, it'd be great to have you there.
Speaker 7 (56:56):
But the cruise is going to be incredible, Like it's
amazing speakers and the producer I'm good friends with, and
so he also booked a time for Rob and I
to play.
Speaker 6 (57:06):
And I have to say it was a gas because.
Speaker 7 (57:09):
So many of those people are my friends, my tribe,
the other speakers, and they were all like, we.
Speaker 6 (57:15):
Had no idea you guys did this.
Speaker 7 (57:17):
We had no idea you could perform like this, And
so it's great. We're even coming out of the closet
in our own space so to speak to let people know, yeah,
we performed this great music. It's really uplifting. And so
if you go to the channel, if you go to
Lions of Lira on YouTube, leave a comment so I
know you were there.
Speaker 2 (57:39):
Well, Debbie, one thing's for sure, you are not bored.
So one last thing, what is the best way for
people to connect with you?
Speaker 5 (57:48):
I know you do workshops and courses. What's your website?
Speaker 7 (57:53):
Yeah, it's my name, It's Debbie Dashinger dot com. And
if you're watching, that's easy right here, just spell it
correctly DBBI HI I D A C H I N
g ear dot com. And if you'd like to find
out a free gift for you guys, if you'd like
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actually report and video. And that's my website, Debbie Dashinger
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slash Gaya and then also on YouTube, Debbie Dashinger.
Speaker 2 (58:36):
Oh my gosh, Debbie, thank you and I have a
deep feeling we might have to do another show if
you can find another hour to sit down with me.
You're busy, lady, but thank you. I'm so blessed. Thank you.
You are a beacon of light and love and truth
and much needed in this world.
Speaker 5 (58:53):
And thank you for being on World Awakenings.
Speaker 7 (58:56):
Oh Carl, I've really enjoyed my time with you, and
thank you for the word It is much needed.
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which is basically a chronic inflammation and infection of the sinuses. Now,
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Speaker 3 (01:20):
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For example, when we were dealing.
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With COVID, they found that it made the sign it's
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Now. The underlying one of the other things that it
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Welcome, Welcome, welcome, my friends for.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
Once again joining us here on World Awakenings The Fast
Track to Enlightenment, a show that, since twenty eighteen has
been asking the question why, now, more than ever, are
the people of the world awakening to all things spiritual,
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the world's greatest experts and teachers of these topics. Now, also,
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off and meet our guest here on episode two four.
Debbie Dashinger is a journalist, a certified shamanic practitioner, and
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has had UFO experiences.
Speaker 5 (07:22):
Although Debbie has been.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
Spiritual her whole life, she had a later in life
awakening that led her on the path to explore the
intricate connections between shamanism and extra terrestrial phenomenon, which that
is very cool. We're going to check that out and
it has changed who she is in her life's trajectory.
She is the host of the Dare to Dream podcast
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focusing on extraterrestrials, channeling, UFO shamanism and cutting edge spirituality
and Plus, she is a certified wine specialist and a
lead singer in the band Lions of Lyra, so we'll
have to find out about that too. Debbie facilitates powerful,
private and group shamanic healing sessions, and she bridges the
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ancient in the extraordinary, where shamanic practices and extraterrestrial encounters intersect.
She has written several international selling, best selling books.
Speaker 5 (08:16):
We'll check that out too. With that, I am so
grateful and blessed to have you on the show, Debbie.
Thank you for being here.
Speaker 6 (08:23):
Oh, thank you so much. I'm excited to hang out
with you and have a chat.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Well, you know, I've been doing my research on you.
My gosh, you do so many amazing, beautiful things. But
I'm really curious, how did a young Debbie find herself
being on this incredible path of spirituality, shamanism, healing, and
being connected to our galactic beings and friends in different
(08:50):
dimensions and universes.
Speaker 5 (08:52):
Were you interested in this as a youngster?
Speaker 6 (08:55):
Not at all.
Speaker 7 (08:56):
What I was as a youngster and pretty much since
I've been born is very spiritual, very very into the
healing arts and things like that. But I also had
certain separations and judgments specifically around extraterrestrials and UFOs, that's
for sure, and even a little bit around past life regressions.
(09:18):
It was for some like a trigger for me when
I would always feel like if anyone brought up ets,
I'd be like, oh, like just really, I was so skeptical,
such an open minded skeptic.
Speaker 6 (09:30):
And you know, then God has the last laugh.
Speaker 7 (09:34):
So even though I was highly spiritual, I would say
one big awakening was when I started my radio show.
It'll be eighteen years ago in June, and I started
my radio show and I started to watch who was
coming on in the conversations I was having, and I realized,
oh wow, spirituality is my greatest value.
Speaker 6 (09:53):
It's so important. And so that was a big awakening.
Speaker 7 (09:56):
And then years later I started to some work outside
of this country and every night it was a four night,
back to back experience, and every single night the divine
came to meet me while I was in a very
expanded state, let's say, and she would say to me, Debbie,
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you're a shaman, you're a healer, and you're a priestess,
and I had no context for what she was talking about,
and so I argued with her and I said, no,
I'm not healer. Those would be my friends or people
who come on my podcast. Priestess, that's lovely, I don't
know what that means. And the shaman, for sure, because
I understood the decades that a shaman, a real shaman,
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would put into becoming who they were, and that they
were chosen by lineage and spirit and the community, and
none of that had happened to me. And so she
was very gracious. Every night she would come and say
the same thing over and over, and as she would come,
she would start to show me aspects of myself.
Speaker 6 (10:59):
And it was very.
Speaker 7 (11:00):
Wonderful, albeit confusing. And so when I got back here
to this country, I shared with a friend of mine
this confusion, and he said, well, why don't we do
some regressions for you and see what happens. And I
trusted this man. He was exemplary and what he did,
and so the first session he put me under, and
I saw myself immediately as a native male, a shaman,
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and it was a beautiful life. The next time he
put me under, I saw myself as a woman, a mayan,
leader of her people, living in a temple. And this
aspect of me was over seven feet tall, extremely skinny,
and I had what felt like an entire day with her,
and before I left, I wanted to ask her questions
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how she did the things she did.
Speaker 6 (11:46):
It was I'd never seen or been around somebody like her.
Speaker 7 (11:50):
And I was full of assumptions. And she shook her
head and she raised a finger and she telepathically said
to me, I am not from here. I am from
another galaxy. And he took me back out, and I
was like, wow, this thing I've judged extraterrestrials UFOs, all
of this life outside of Earth and I have been
separated from and been an eye roller to actually exists.
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And in fact, there are aspects of me who have
been this galactically species wise, and so this was a
huge opening for me. So here now I have this
UFO et thing, like what do I do with it?
And here I have this shamanic information that still isn't settled.
And I decided, look, I'm a journalist, I'm an aggregator.
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Let me go find the information. I'm so grateful I
took that path because I started enrolling in shamanic certification programs,
and they were long. They were not short, they were
not for the faint of heart, but they.
Speaker 6 (12:49):
Were really long. Six months one.
Speaker 7 (12:51):
Year, you know, adding thirty extra hours to my already
busy life.
Speaker 6 (12:56):
But I was fully in.
Speaker 7 (12:57):
And even though I joined for the information and was
I started massively changing healing and watching that as I
use these practices on other people, I was healing them.
And then I started receiving downloads that there was a
connection between the two, so I would follow it, and
I put together a project with six very prominent people
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around the subject, and none of them heard the other person.
None of them knew what the other person said in
the interview that I did and the footage that I got,
but they were all saying the same thing. So I
was onto something. And then I started being invited stages
around the world to speak about this, to deliver programs
about this. And this is where I live today. So
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it's been many years and now I do a lot
of shamanic healing programs, especially for groups I rather love that.
I just did a New Moon ceremony yesterday online for
a lot of people, and all of this to say,
so it was a great awakening, Carl was un expected.
It was not where I was headed, but it came anyway,
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And I am so grateful today looking back because of
the enormity of life shift and even inside of me
that has occurred because I followed this path, and I
really believe, at least for today, that this is my path.
There is something probably very ancient for me here, like
many lifetimes that I've been this and that I know
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this information. And I also think it's an auspicious time
on the planet with impending extraterrestrial visits and a lot
of shifts in that world, that this information starts getting
out to the public.
Speaker 6 (14:41):
So that's how I came to do what I do.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
Wow. Well, and you know I had read that you
had a later in life awakening, so you know, I
haven't had many guests who've had this flash cundlinea awakening,
but you sound like more of an unfoldment over a
period of time.
Speaker 7 (14:59):
Yeah, that's a good to say. It like a very
good way, because you could have called the divine a flash.
But I was arguing. I was arguing for my limitations,
but also like whoa what does that mean? And she
was very insistent that I get this information, and I
think the divine he she just trusted that when they
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delivered it to me, I was going to find my way.
Speaker 6 (15:24):
It was going to be.
Speaker 7 (15:24):
Intriguing enough, compelling, confusing enough that I would somehow find
my way on this path.
Speaker 6 (15:30):
And they were right.
Speaker 7 (15:31):
And I will say the other piece of it that's
kind of interesting is once I just surrendered and went
on the path, just like, let's find out what this is,
I would say. Very shortly thereafter, things started to open
up for me and unfold also in ways that were unprecedented.
As you said, some of my clients have been guests
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on your shows, and I know how to pitch people.
I know I do some of that for a living,
and I never pitched myself. I was just like, let
me find out what this is. And all of a sudden,
I'm getting invited to Mexico City for the World Ufology,
that all of a sudden, I'm hearing from guy a
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TV who wants to interview me. And now I've been
on twice and I have literally been all over the
world and on many podcasts that have reached out to me,
and I just I really feel humbled by the whole experience,
and I think it's extraordinary. Whatever machination this is, whoever
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is helping and orchestrating, I am grateful.
Speaker 5 (16:40):
Yeah, and I have that question.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
You're a facilitator and you know how to approach people
and talk to your journalists.
Speaker 5 (16:50):
Were you before all this happened? Were you? Did you
have a career in the media.
Speaker 7 (16:56):
Yeah, I did so. I've had a few careers in
my life. I have been a professional actress and singer
and that went for a very long time. And when
that something well into my adulthood kind of kicked back.
It was also confusing. I didn't know what to do
with that, and I got to a point where I thought, well,
this is this is so unknown to me. I think
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I will surrender. And thankfully, you know, in a three
year period of following excitement, I ended up in radio.
And when I ended up in radio, I started writing
books and this whole media career took off on its own.
And you know, it's been a real blessing because I
work with spiritual messengers. I then became a book coach,
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and then I have a company that takes books to
a guaranteed international bestseller and I have a small always
small amount of people that I do pr work for,
specifically getting them booked on podcasts, and it's been good
to me. You know, I wasn't looking for anything else.
I was like, this is goal and I get even
in my show to get to hang out with Pep
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and get information that is really edifying and interesting. But
I think something else was meant for me, And if
I were to be honest.
Speaker 6 (18:09):
It's kind of coming up in answer to your question.
Speaker 7 (18:12):
Along the way, I had had a few channels on
my show, and these beings that would come through them
would say to me, you know, Debbie, you've been shining
a light on people for a long time, but really
you're meant to be in the spotlight.
Speaker 6 (18:28):
And I was very reticent. I was like, I don't.
Speaker 7 (18:32):
Know, I'm kind of happy here. But they would say
that enough people are enough. Beings would say that to me,
and I hadn't thought about this in a long time.
Speaker 6 (18:43):
It sort of was prophesies.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
If you will, wow, well, you know you were meant
to be in the spotlight. I mean, you were an
actress and a singer for a long time and you're
in the spot like there, so hopefully you can transmute
that to what you do and you have done done that,
but you know.
Speaker 5 (19:01):
It's interesting too. We've both been in radio.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
I definitely took a longer different path than you, but
I love the career and now we're both in front
of the camera.
Speaker 5 (19:11):
But I want to go back because you know, so.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
Much of you is about the extraterrestrials and UFOs, and
you've talked about have you had some personal encounters with
UFOs and any of them.
Speaker 5 (19:24):
Super memorable or you want to talk about.
Speaker 7 (19:27):
Yeah, I'd be happy to I have had many UFO
experiences and it's been very very well timed, I will say,
very slow, but revealing and kind of fun and mysterious.
I think the first time I had a UFO experience,
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I was out with some friends in Joshua Tree, which
is a place that is known for a lot of
craft sightings, and we were working to well early in
the morning and the pitch black the foot of the mountains,
and we were meditating and doing all the Stephen greer
Ce five Close Encounters of the fifth kind things to
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bring in the extraterrestrials. Well, we had a beautiful evening,
but nothing happened, so we left in our truck. It
was two in the morning, and it's a long drive
back to Los Angeles. It's about four hours from Joshua Tree,
and there was a considerable amount of traffic on this
Saturday evening at two am, and the two gals in
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the back were asleep.
Speaker 6 (20:31):
I purposely forced myself to stay.
Speaker 7 (20:34):
Awake so that I made sure the drivers stayed awake.
And while we were driving, we were on the ten
Freeway and all of a sudden, boom, a craft came
right in front of the truck.
Speaker 6 (20:46):
Visually, it was huge.
Speaker 7 (20:48):
It had no propulsion, no movement lights, and I I
was hitting the driver and saying pull over, pull over,
pull over, because I wanted to be as close as
possible to it. Well, he couldn't pull over because there
was so many trucks and cars on the road.
Speaker 6 (21:07):
So at the time.
Speaker 7 (21:08):
When I'm telling him to pull over, I also with
my voice, had woken up the two gals in the
back seat.
Speaker 6 (21:14):
Everybody now is awake.
Speaker 7 (21:16):
Everybody's freaking out going this is awesome, pulling out their
phones and it was a bit of time till we
could pull over safely on the side of the road.
We took as many videos as we could as many
photographs as we could. And here's the crazy thing, Carl.
Not one other car or truck or being saw the
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spacecraft but us.
Speaker 6 (21:40):
And that, by the way, is a lot.
Speaker 7 (21:43):
Often what happens to people, it somehow is meant for
them to see. And so we stood there on the
side of the road watching it. It felt sentient, and
then at some point it shifted over onto its side
and then glided over toward the sixty freeway. We got
back into our truck and decided, well, I guess it's
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time to drive home, and at tracked us for a
while and then was just disappeared. So that was my
very first foray, and I've had other I don't know
how many experiences you want to hear, but really extraordinary.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
Yeah, well that's interesting. And it almost seems like because
your energy and your willingness to connect with them attracted them.
Yet it's like they cloak themselves to the people who
don't have that energy, and the ones who are there
and want to see them, it looks like they reveal
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themselves to you.
Speaker 6 (22:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (22:44):
I've even had them reveal themselves to me through my
cell phone because I was still new enough to all
of this we were in another experience. We're out in
Arizona and we were in Sacred Land.
Speaker 6 (22:59):
We had permits to be.
Speaker 7 (23:00):
There was pitch pitch black in the desert, and we
were doing contact work and at some point we all
took a break and I just thought, well, I have
no idea what anything looks like here, so why don't
I use my cell phone and I'll just take some pictures.
Speaker 6 (23:18):
It might be interesting cactus. I don't know what's there.
Maybe you know the moon.
Speaker 7 (23:22):
I'm creative, and so I was taking pictures without a flash.
Of course, that means, especially in the pitch black, you
hold your cell phone for what feels like minutes so
enough light comes into the lens to take the photo.
And I saw this tree was extraordinary tree, and up
above you could see the stars through the tree, and
(23:42):
I thought that would be a really cool artistic picture.
And I kept attempting to take a photo of the
stars through the branches over and over, and I thought, ah,
my finger is getting in the way of this photo.
And I finally took a breath and stopped and I
went I just changed directions and I went out the
complete other way because there was a fence and I thought, well,
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what's beyond this fence, so I took pictures there too.
Later on, I was looking through my phone again and
I called over the woman who was in charge, and
I said, wow, this is unreal.
Speaker 6 (24:16):
Take a look at this. So what had happened with the.
Speaker 7 (24:19):
Tree and the branches? And I never did get a
picture of those stars.
Speaker 6 (24:24):
There was this.
Speaker 7 (24:25):
Huge globe, milky creamy with Pastelle colors, blues and purples
going through it. Now, off, here's this is the picture,
and off at the bottom on the right is a
little orb you might say, an angel orb. Yes, and
then you can, you know, kind of see there's dirt,
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and you can kind of see the outline of a tree,
but then you can't see the rest of the tree
because there's this enormous globe. It is not an orb
way bitterer, way different. And it took years before I
was able to ask somebody in the know who knows
these things.
Speaker 6 (25:04):
And I said, what is this?
Speaker 7 (25:06):
Because I had an assumption about what that was too,
And she said that was a species that understood your
vibration much to your point, understood your vibration and was
very interested in you. And I thought, well, that what
a beautiful species that was. And interestingly enough, when I
looked at the next picture, the one that I had
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shot beyond the wooden gate out to the what I
thought was nothingness, there was a spacecraft in the sky.
And so these are the very gentle ways they came
into my life. And now today, honestly, my boyfriend and
I will be driving to San Diego from Los Angeles
and back we see spacecraft in the sky. And there's
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been many other episodes, and I love it. I love
that they have some awareness and that in their just
to way they're making contact.
Speaker 6 (26:01):
I appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
Well, sure sounds like your drives on the highways are
not boring. Oh my gosh. Wow, And you didn't let
me ask you when you shot those pictures with your phones.
You didn't see those beings of orbs at the time
you shot the picture.
Speaker 5 (26:20):
It wasn't until you saw the photo on your phone.
Speaker 7 (26:23):
That's exactly correct. With the naked eye, I couldn't see anything.
I wouldn't have even known it was there.
Speaker 5 (26:29):
Wow. Super interesting.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
Well, we are talking to the amazing Debbie Dashinger, Oh
my gosh, host of the incredible show Dare to Dream Now.
Speaker 5 (26:39):
Debbie you're also very tuned.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
In and aligned with the native indigenous peoples of the world. Now,
I saw you just did an interview on guy A
TV with host George nor who also hosts the famous
radio show Coast to Coast where you talk about the
hope Indians.
Speaker 5 (26:56):
Can you tell us about that?
Speaker 7 (26:58):
Hmm okay, yes, So first I just want to say, George,
I actually got him to come on my show so
about a month ago.
Speaker 6 (27:09):
If anybody wants to check that out.
Speaker 7 (27:10):
That was such a great coup for me because I
love George.
Speaker 6 (27:15):
He's a legend.
Speaker 7 (27:16):
He's opened the pathway for you, me and so many
other people in this field, and I think the world
of him. So yes, the beautiful George Norie. I just
went back a second time for a different conversation on
GYA and I want.
Speaker 6 (27:31):
To say to your listeners.
Speaker 7 (27:32):
If they would like to watch the interview, go to
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(27:54):
com slash gaya and get your free one week subscription.
It's d Ebbi da h I n g R dot
com slash ga A my gift to you. I spoke
about the Hopies and so specifically this is so cool.
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I'll start with this because there's a lot of information,
but the Hopey Indians were one of the races, one
of the species, if you will, on Earth, that were
saved during one of the catastrophes that we've had over
the history of our Earth.
Speaker 6 (28:34):
We have had three.
Speaker 7 (28:35):
Different catastrophes, massive cataclysms that wiped out all living beings,
full flora, fauna, everything, and we started all over again.
Speaker 6 (28:49):
And one of them were the floods.
Speaker 7 (28:52):
And so the Hopey Indians, what are we going to do?
Everybody knows it's impending doom. And these beings came from
subterranean caves and they are called the ant beings. And
the ant beings came out of the caves to save
the Hopey Indians. This is a well documented story. And
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the hope Indians were so grateful because they didn't know
where to go with a flood coming, and they were
taken in these subterranean caverns, and they were shown how
to have food, how to store food, and they lived
amongst them very peacefully, very gratefully, for a long time,
for generations, until it was safe to come back out
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into the earth. It's such a deep subject, these ant people.
I'll tell you the first time I heard this, Carl,
I was like a big eye roller.
Speaker 6 (29:50):
I wanted to tell this.
Speaker 7 (29:51):
Person that they were crazy. Who was sharing it with me?
They were not sharing about the Hopes. They were sharing
another ant being story. However, this person work for the
the German government in specifically UFOs and extraterrestrials. He had
deep information, so I thought I need to at least
do some research, and I've been blown away. I've got
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documents about them. Sometimes it is said in myth that
the ant people just picture an ant have very skinny
wastes because they were so generous with the Hopies in
feeding them and taking care of them till they were
okay enough to come back out to the world to
repopulate restart.
Speaker 6 (30:36):
And they're giant.
Speaker 7 (30:38):
They are like nine to fifteen feet tall, and so yeah,
that's the hope, that's the Hopies, and that's an amazing story.
And if you go to there's some beautiful places where
their old dwellings are out, like in the Arizona, Utah
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area Chococion, and you can find these drawings on the
caves and literally see depictions of the ant beings.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
Wow, what an amazing story. I recently had amber Wolf
on in she talks about the Lumerians who live in
Mount Shasta. So evidently there's you know, there's a number
of cultures or beings who live in the subterranean world
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of the War of Earth.
Speaker 7 (31:32):
More than we know, more than even I know, even
though that's a huge fascination for me right now and
I am more and more getting information. Yes, what Amberwolf
was talking about was the Tellos who lived and that's
their names from Lemuria, whose.
Speaker 6 (31:49):
Essence, if you will, they're often not seen by us.
Speaker 7 (31:53):
All these beings I'm talking about, they vibrate at such
an advanced level that we don't see them, but once
a great while someone will. And I know someone who's
taken a picture of an aunt being like she was
like really freaked out, not fully understanding what was happening,
took a picture and got the heck out of there.
There is a lot of talk that there's a lot
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of government that it's always weird getting into this stuff,
but anyway, there's a lot of government that is doing
some work out in Florida right now, and that there
are ant beings there for sure.
Speaker 6 (32:31):
And I'll give you another like kind of very interesting
piece that.
Speaker 7 (32:37):
In the Native American language, an Anu means ant and
naki means friend. So Anu naki right for ant friend,
which is very interesting because we are deeply seated genetically
by the Annunaki a long time ago, four hundred and
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fifty thousand years ago, and so there is definitely a
connection between the ant beings and the Annaki.
Speaker 2 (33:07):
Wow, just some amazing information. And this is blowing me
away here. This is incredible.
Speaker 5 (33:13):
Thank you, Debbie. You know, I'm curious about this.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
Is there a spiritual aspect to our contact and connection
to these extraterrestrial races. I mean, I've had a number
of channels on my show, and many of the beings
who come through these channels claim to be ascended masters
who reside in higher planes and dimensions. I mean, you
just talked about some of them vibrating at higher planes
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that we can't even see.
Speaker 5 (33:41):
Is it true?
Speaker 2 (33:41):
Then?
Speaker 6 (33:43):
Oh yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 7 (33:44):
And you know sometimes people say, well, you know, why
don't they just land? I mean, it's very American kind
of talk, why don't they just land? And you can
tell people have been watching a lot of television and
film and their influence more by that than by the reality.
Speaker 6 (33:59):
But the thing is these.
Speaker 7 (34:00):
Are advanced civilizations. I think when you have the channels
come on your show and they're talking about this. There's
several components. One of most important, we are genetically connected
to these beings. There's not a separation us in them.
There's actually a deep connection to these beings. Many of
them seated us genetically after the Anonaki did what they did,
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they came in. We have thousands of strains of genetics
from advanced extraterrestrial benevolent species, and so that's one thing.
The other thing is, yes, because they're so advanced, they
don't have to be in these dense meat suits, and
so it is difficult for them often to come and
be with us, right because they have to vibrate.
Speaker 6 (34:43):
It's such a low vibration and frequency.
Speaker 7 (34:46):
It's difficult for them, many of these beings, and it's
I think beyond comprehension. But I'd like to comprehend it
at some point, but they are very etheric in nature.
So there's also underground reptilians who live I think this
is big. And then also inside of our oceans. And
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it's not just that there are beings there. Some of
them don't care about us.
Speaker 6 (35:11):
They have their own.
Speaker 7 (35:12):
World under there. They want it that way. They're doing
their own work, their own science experiments, et cetera. But
they also have portals. So in these caves, in these
underground water places, oceans way deeper than what we currently know,
there are a lot of beings who also reside on
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the earth.
Speaker 5 (35:34):
Oh wow, whoa just so yeah, there's something like that.
I've got a chew on for a little bit.
Speaker 7 (35:40):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (35:40):
Just amazing.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
Of course, you know, I've got to ask you this.
I mean, your show Dared Dream. You've had it eighteen years.
You've hosted this show now, I mean podcasts haven't been
around that long, so that it started as a radio
show and then became a TV show podcast.
Speaker 7 (35:59):
Yeah, yeah, I know, I know if you know Burbank, California,
but that's where I live now, and that's where my
show started. I didn't live here at the time, but
Burbank is very well known for entertainment and for radio.
And I was at a beautiful station, absolutely beautiful station
and indie station, and I ran my show. It was
still called Dare to Dream, and it was more spiritual
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based in the beginning, and so that's as I went along.
I mean, it was quite joyful for me, the learning,
the conversations, the masterclasses. And then yes, this word came around. Gosh,
now it must be like twelve years ago, and it
was this word podcast, and you know, people made fun
of it and said, what is that, It's never going
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to last.
Speaker 6 (36:44):
I was kind of intrigued, so I thought, well, I'll
do that too. Let's just see.
Speaker 7 (36:47):
I mean, it's sort of my show is a ready syndicated,
but this is just another way.
Speaker 6 (36:51):
To do it.
Speaker 7 (36:51):
Boy, am I glad I did so. You know today
I am still on podcast, YouTube, Spotify, iHeart all the
same syndicated places, but I remain having a foot in
radio on BBS Radio and also one O two point
seven FM in New York.
Speaker 6 (37:10):
And I like it that.
Speaker 7 (37:11):
Way, you know, so I can reach the people who
are interested in this conversation. But yes, I started doing
both and then I know, you know, like when podcasts
became clear, this is viable. There are millions rolling out,
There are more and more people. I would watch the statistics.
Speaker 6 (37:30):
All the time.
Speaker 7 (37:32):
We're in the beginning. People would say, do you know
what a podcast is?
Speaker 5 (37:36):
Hmmm?
Speaker 7 (37:36):
Nobody knew, right, it was just a modicum of people.
And then time went by and you saw these statistics, these.
Speaker 6 (37:43):
Numbers growing exponentially.
Speaker 7 (37:46):
Everybody was hearing about podcasting, everybody was interested.
Speaker 6 (37:49):
Everybody wanted a podcast. And then even like the numbers.
Speaker 7 (37:54):
I haven't checked this year, but I know last year
it was over five million podcasts.
Speaker 5 (37:59):
I believe it. Uh yeah, wow, wow.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
Well, you know you you obviously have a face or TV.
I always said I had a face for radio when
I was but that's another Uh got.
Speaker 6 (38:11):
A great voice.
Speaker 7 (38:12):
It's wonder about a great matter. I get what you
are on radio for so long.
Speaker 5 (38:16):
Thank you. I love it. I still love it. But
you know, let's go back. I saw a clip I
think this is on your website.
Speaker 2 (38:23):
You have a clip of you interviewing Michael beck With
at a live event.
Speaker 5 (38:27):
He's just one of them, and.
Speaker 2 (38:28):
He stated that the shift has hit the fan, and
it really does seem that a shift has taken place
in the world and its people. Now, in your opinion,
what exactly is this shift that is now taking place? Mmmm?
Speaker 7 (38:43):
Yes, so I'll if it's okay with you, I'll take
it from the shamanic point of view. Yeah, that interview
was red carpet and I had some extraordinary transformational.
Speaker 6 (38:55):
Leaders that I got to spend time with. It was
a LoveFest.
Speaker 7 (38:59):
I really enjoyed it, and Michael is just a beautiful being.
The shift from I'm going to specifically go Peruvian Andean,
the Inca Cairo people. So they have something These are ancient,
ancient people, and they have something called the patcha kuti,
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and every five hundred years is a different patchakuti pacha
which many people associate with Mama meaning pacha Mama mother Earth,
but in this case, patcha kuti means patcha time kuti change.
So this is a time of change pachakuti. And in
this particular they've all been different, not a myth, very true.
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And they knew, these people knew over two hundred and
fifty years ago that this was coming, and they said
there will come a time.
Speaker 6 (39:49):
Now.
Speaker 7 (39:49):
Every Native American, every indigenous culture, has their different form
of this prophecy, and they all have been talking about
this from the inception of their people, knowing what we
are living through right now is to be lived through.
That are our souls chose to come here at this time,
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very interesting time to be alive on earth. And so
with a patchyakuti it means a shakeup, a chaos. Something
different is about to emerge, and before it emerges, we
need to shake up what's already here.
Speaker 6 (40:29):
That means that.
Speaker 7 (40:30):
A lot of things are going to come to the
forefront that we have chosen not to look at. Politics, wars,
the way we treat our children, the way we treat
our waters, our skies, corporate greed, all sorts of things,
sexual misappropriation, many things are coming up to be looked
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at and dealt with, healed, so we can make other choices.
Speaker 6 (40:57):
And not be like that.
Speaker 7 (41:00):
Sides with the rise of the divine feminine that the
North and the South will finally come together, and as
the Peruvians say, the eagle and the condor will finally
fly together. And really it is a time Carl where
with this great shift that we're in to stop living
in the mind we have been so trained that this
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is super safe, like hang out here, you can figure
everything out, But do we know has it created the
world we want to live and know how we treat
other humans? Know there is one answer, And this stuff
is so ancient and I think so obvious, but so important.
The heart, the heart, the divine feminine, the gentility and
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the power, and the reception, the healing, the being responsible.
It is time to take the really long walk from
the head down to the heart. And the other piece
is to end the separation that we are really deeply
in with a source energy of which we are, that
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the earth is very much alive, and to stop abusing
her as a resource. She is the greatest mother most
of us will ever have, even if you had an
amazing mother or have, But she is so powerful and
loving and we live on her and she houses us
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and feeds us and clothes us. And animism is a
big important part of this. To know that every bird,
every plant, every rock, every river, sky, moon, every single
thing is alive.
Speaker 6 (42:43):
Has a soul.
Speaker 7 (42:45):
We are not disconnected, We truly are one with everything.
And when we can remember the heart, the honoring and
respect from Mother Earth and all living and non living things,
this is the great change, for the great shift. This
is where we come back into harmony, into healing of
the planet, of ourselves, so that we may also be
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awake and available for the healing of everybody else collectively.
And I believe that's why all of us agreed to
be here right now.
Speaker 2 (43:17):
Debbie, thank you because some of the things you just
said are so loving and wise, and I so appreciate
what you did there. We're talking again to Debbie Dashing
or just an incredible lady, host of the Dare To
Dream TV and show and podcasts. One more thing, just
one last thing about shamanism. We talk about shamanism. Is
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shamanism really just spirituality, but not in the usual form
the Western mind thinks about it.
Speaker 3 (43:47):
No, it is.
Speaker 6 (43:49):
Thank you for the question. It's a great question.
Speaker 7 (43:51):
And I appreciate it always because it's such a big
word these days, and I think it's important when I
say what I do, it's because I feel incredible respect
and I want to pay so much homage to these
beautiful beings. The funny thing is that shamans never choose
to be a shaman. They're chosen by their lineage, by spirit,
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by the community. And when they're chosen, they have to
go through these initiatory rites that most of us may
not make it out the other side. They always have
some kind of death experience and rebirth. So it could
be near death, it could be a mental illness, it
could be being struck by lightning. And some of them
go into a psychic trance and they see this ferocious,
(44:39):
very terrifying animal. They are eaten and dismembered, and then
at some point they're blown back into being with wild
talents and then they continue. It takes decades and decades
of work of discipline to basically serve their community, to
serve the planet. Very much in touch with extraterrestrials. They
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have been since the beginning of time. I do not
believe that the Indigenous people are originally from this planet.
I believe they're from the planet well a lot, but
not only but a lot of them are from Maya,
Maaia and the Plei Eightes, and there's a lot of
healers that come from there. And shamanism is unbelievable because
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they transcend this reality to bring back the healing and
the wisdom that they do. They do interact with extraterrestrials.
They've been family and had relations with them since the
beginning of time, and they also shape shift.
Speaker 6 (45:37):
They do pretty extraordinary things.
Speaker 7 (45:41):
And I don't know that any of us will ever
know unless we were them, what it is like for
them to transcend this reality, to go where they do,
to pull back the information.
Speaker 6 (45:51):
But they have been healers, maybe the original healers. And
I'll tell you something interesting.
Speaker 7 (45:58):
Shamanism started in the Paleolithic times, and the first shamans
were women, lady oracles, and so it wasn't until millennia
later that men said I want to learn how to
do that, and they did. And that's why in Siberia
the word shaman samon means one who knows, and the shamans,
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the males in Siberia often dressed like women to pay
homage to the first divine goddesses who did this work.
Speaker 5 (46:27):
Oh man, I just realized, my cat is an et.
Her name is Maya.
Speaker 2 (46:33):
But you know, speaking to shamanism, I mean, going back
to that video you did at the red carpet event
in La I saw you getting hugged by a real shaman.
Don Miguel Ruiz, who wrote the Four Reasons and his
whole family is our true shamans. But you know shamanism,
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I think in the modern world was actually introduced more
in the early seventies when Carlos not I wrote the
series of books on the teachings of Don Juan. I
remember reading that when I was a hippie in college.
I go, whoa baby, this is incredible. But that was
really an opening to shamanism to the rest of the world.
Speaker 7 (47:14):
It's so interesting you bring up Carlos Castaneda, because yeah,
I also read his books. I mean, wow, influential and
mind blowing and all that. And one of the things
he was known for is to do these vision quests.
And it's very interesting you say this, because this is
I'm now in a shamanic program, as I shared with
you Patch Katy mesa tradition, and this is the second
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time it happened years ago in another program, and I
know it's coming up in a couple of weeks, we're
meeting again where they're going to ask me to do
a vision quest.
Speaker 6 (47:45):
And I didn't do the first one because I was
just I.
Speaker 7 (47:47):
Too frightened as a woman to go hang out like
in the wild by myself, no water, no food, or
maybe they give you water, but there's no food.
Speaker 6 (47:57):
I don't really care. So much about the fasting.
Speaker 7 (47:59):
I know it's not comfortable, but you'll come back to
you know, you'll come back to your community and you'll
be fine.
Speaker 6 (48:05):
After a few days.
Speaker 7 (48:06):
But it's more than being alone. But it's coming up again,
and so this is something I'm gonna have to channel
Carlos Castaneda because he did it a lot and he
had some extraordinary experiences, and so I know, if it
keeps coming to me, I'm going to have to face
the vision quest head on and probably go do it.
Speaker 5 (48:28):
Oh my gosh, I might have to go on one
of those with you. My gosh, that sounds amazing.
Speaker 2 (48:33):
But yeah, because I remember Carlos cous not a writing
about Don Juan doing shape shifting like you were talking
about and just amazing down there in a sonor in
desert in Mexico. But shamans are all over the world.
But well, oh my gosh, Debbie, this is amazing. We
most definitely have to talk about your numerous books, but
especially Dare to Dream This Life Counts. Tell us about
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that book and how it came about.
Speaker 7 (48:59):
Oh, you know, well, because I was on radio. I
wanted to reach more people. So I was on radio
and I'm hearing from people all over the world saying
I love your show.
Speaker 6 (49:08):
I listen.
Speaker 7 (49:09):
My sister in law at the time was a psychotherapist
and she would have clients come and mention me, and
they didn't realize because she uses a different last name.
They didn't realize we were related and we're very close.
And so it just started becoming a thing, and I thought,
how can I reach more people?
Speaker 6 (49:26):
I want to write a book.
Speaker 7 (49:28):
A book gets out there pretty wide and far, and
so I wrote this book. It did what I wanted
it to do. I'm still so proud of that book
because dare to dream.
Speaker 6 (49:38):
This life counts. My first book literally is about.
Speaker 7 (49:43):
How to create any dreams. And here's what's incredible. I
just had that book and my second book, Wisdom to Success,
turned into audibles. It's been a dream of mine to
finally go past the print book, past the Hindley book,
and finally get to Audible. So both of them are
available on Audible. They may still be free right now.
(50:06):
They were in a beta test, so if anybody wants
to check it out under my name, you just got
to smell my name, right d Ebbi da Chi n
gr It's lovely.
Speaker 6 (50:17):
I listen to it myself, and I'm like, it's.
Speaker 7 (50:19):
Evergreen, It's still this is still viable information. So that's
how I started writing books, and it's I know I've
got another one, but it's going to be at least
next year busy. I'm a ready booked next year, like
five different countries to speak. So I will see how
(50:41):
the pacing goes. If it's not next year, the next year,
the year after. But I know this will be a
personal book that I'll be putting out that will be
some of my experiences with plant medicine, with shamanism, and
a little bit more memoir esque.
Speaker 2 (50:57):
Wow, as busy as you are, and it makes me
even more goodful you were able to fit in time
to do this show.
Speaker 5 (51:03):
I appreciate it. But yeah, just incredible too.
Speaker 2 (51:08):
And you know, I've been wanting to turn my book
into audible and there's so many different ways. I do
have a microphone. But we're going to kind of wind
up a little bit here. I do have I think
a very important question here. What are your thoughts on
the seemingly ever increasing interest in UFO sightings in you know,
the grand media. Are we getting closer to making legitimate
(51:31):
contact with our galactic friends. I mean on a widespread basis,
not them, just to the people who are interested. I mean,
it's got to be some form of contact that won't
cause widespread fear.
Speaker 6 (51:44):
Yes, yes, we are. We are.
Speaker 7 (51:46):
The simple answer is, yes, we are absolutely unequivocably we
are getting to that. That is why you're seeing more
whistleblowers come forward, because they actually have the okay from
the government to start dripping this information. The government has
such a thing about us being afraid, and maybe for
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good reason, I don't know certainly, if there's good reason,
it's because movies have portrayed these beings coming to do
things to us that frankly, only we would do to us,
like kill us and eat us. But most of these
advanced civilizations have no interest in that, no interest in
conquering us. Why, you know, it's a huge cosmos. So yeah,
they're like I said, they are genetically our relations. And
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some people don't understand, well, what do they see in us?
I mean, if they're so advanced, they see a lot
in us. We are very interesting people, and what they
see in us are people of emotion, and not all
of these civilizations have emotion like we do. Certainly the
Grays genetically mastered themselves with zero emotion, and so they're
(52:54):
trying the Grays realize, well, that didn't work, so they're
trying to bring it back into themselves. Thus why there
were so many abductions.
Speaker 6 (53:01):
And further, they have.
Speaker 7 (53:04):
Had since the nineteen forties agreement with the government, you know,
the US and all the other countries.
Speaker 6 (53:09):
In the world.
Speaker 7 (53:11):
Look, you give us, We'll give you some advanced technology.
You let us do this, and there have been agreements
and we won't you know, overall bother your people. We'll
sort of slip in and out. But much like you
just said, Carl, exactly, the incidences arising, the awareness is rising,
and you're starting to see more and more with the
government around disclosure. You're starting to see more and more
(53:33):
whistleblowers coming forward and speaking truth as much as they
can and have agreed to speak. And this stuff is important,
you know, and shows like mine, and there's other people
doing great jobs out there getting this information. There's tons
of events. I'm going in one month to contact in
the desert, huge event every year.
Speaker 6 (53:54):
It's been going on for like.
Speaker 7 (53:55):
Decades, and this is the whole subject. Experts from around
the world.
Speaker 6 (53:59):
Come and speak.
Speaker 7 (54:00):
Can I believe based on what I've heard that the
extraterrestrials have said to our government. We have been patient
and we have adhered to what you've asked of us,
but you have not kept up your part of the
bargain and told the people the truth. And so we
will be coming and we don't want it to be
(54:23):
like this, but we're going to leave it up to you.
It's incumbent on you to start disseminating the truth, and
I think that is why it's picking up more. But
I also think, like this great shift you mentioned earlier,
this is part of it.
Speaker 6 (54:36):
This is part of the.
Speaker 7 (54:37):
Web of many of us waking up and understanding this
is real, this is happening, and it can be so
beautiful when we finally become part of the galactic community.
Speaker 2 (54:50):
Well, I really appreciate your explanation on that, because obviously
it's a huge topic.
Speaker 5 (54:55):
More and more and more than ever.
Speaker 2 (54:57):
Debbie, Wait, We're gonna want just one completely off the
UFO thing. Maybe maybe not being an actress and a singer,
I say, you're still the lead singer in.
Speaker 5 (55:09):
A band called Lions of Lyra. Wow. Is there a
video on YouTube? Or can we hear any of your work?
Speaker 6 (55:16):
Oh yeah, there is, thank you for asking. We do.
Speaker 7 (55:18):
If you go to Lions of Lyra l Yra, we're beings,
lion beings and also a planet before it was destroyed.
Just go there on YouTube Lions.
Speaker 6 (55:29):
Of Lira and it's free. You can listen. Yeah, we perform.
Speaker 7 (55:34):
We do galactic soundbaths and then we've got amazing transformational
people who will bring us into their events and so
we'll perform before people speak. So many different gigs we do,
it's really fun. I had given up singing when I
got into radio. I thought, God, there is no time
I'm writing books. I'm doing radio. And I gave up singing.
(55:56):
I left the band I was in, and I've been
singing since I was a little girl. But I was
very at peace. And then I was, you know, one
of the many other awakenings that I had, where the
divine came and said.
Speaker 6 (56:07):
What happened to music? And I didn't know.
Speaker 7 (56:10):
I didn't know what to say, and I it was
sort of a shrug. And I happened to be working
with a shaman. I said, wow, this thing happened, and
I told him, you know, the divine asked this question,
and he said, the music never left you, Debbie, start
doing it again. So Rob picked up his guitar. I
started singing, this is I mean, it's not that long ago,
(56:32):
it's only five and a.
Speaker 6 (56:33):
Half years ago.
Speaker 7 (56:35):
And boom, you know, we just like one month later
started getting booked at gigs and it's been fun, and
it's especially fun sometimes, Like I'm speaking on a cruise
next year. It's a mystery school cruise to Turkey and Greece,
and so.
Speaker 6 (56:52):
If you want to come, I'll give you I'll give
you the website. Yeah, it'd be great to have you there.
Speaker 7 (56:56):
But the cruise is going to be incredible, Like it's
amazing speakers and the producer I'm good friends with, and
so he also booked a time for Rob and I
to play.
Speaker 6 (57:06):
And I have to say it was a gas because.
Speaker 7 (57:09):
So many of those people are my friends, my tribe,
the other speakers, and they were all like, we.
Speaker 6 (57:15):
Had no idea you guys did this.
Speaker 7 (57:17):
We had no idea you could perform like this, And
so it's great. We're even coming out of the closet
in our own space so to speak to let people know, yeah,
we performed this great music. It's really uplifting. And so
if you go to the channel, if you go to
Lions of Lira on YouTube, leave a comment so I
know you were there.
Speaker 2 (57:39):
Well, Debbie, one thing's for sure, you are not bored.
So one last thing, what is the best way for
people to connect with you?
Speaker 5 (57:48):
I know you do workshops and courses. What's your website?
Speaker 7 (57:53):
Yeah, it's my name, It's Debbie Dashinger dot com. And
if you're watching, that's easy right here, just spell it
correctly DBBI HI I D A C H I N
g ear dot com. And if you'd like to find
out a free gift for you guys, if you'd like
to find out what your star seed is, your galactic
history and lineage, I've put together a free it's amazing
(58:14):
actually report and video. And that's my website, Debbie Dashinger
dot com slash star Seed again the Gaya TV. If
you'd like a free one week subscription, please check out
my interviews with George Nori Go Tobi Dashinger dot com
slash Gaya and then also on YouTube, Debbie Dashinger.
Speaker 2 (58:36):
Oh my gosh, Debbie, thank you and I have a
deep feeling we might have to do another show if
you can find another hour to sit down with me.
You're busy, lady, but thank you. I'm so blessed. Thank you.
You are a beacon of light and love and truth
and much needed in this world.
Speaker 5 (58:53):
And thank you for being on World Awakenings.
Speaker 7 (58:56):
Oh Carl, I've really enjoyed my time with you, and
thank you for the word It is much needed.
Speaker 1 (59:11):
This has been another episode of World Awakenings, the Fast
Track to Enlightenment with host Carl Gruber, a certified Law
of Attraction life coach. We welcome you to tune in
to each and every episode of World Awakenings as we
open your mind, your heart, and your eyes to the
fact that the world's population is now more than ever,
(59:33):
awakening to the truth of all things spiritual, metaphysical and
enlightening and just how much they play an all important
role in our moment to moment daily life. Much love
and light to you, my friend, and thank you for
tuning into World Awakenings.
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