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October 10, 2025 42 mins
Blue corn tortilla chip. New bird. Dottie’s trip to Murdoch’s. Winner! Guinness World Record. City of College Station update. Weekend plans.
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
WTAW news time is four minutes after eight It's sixty
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Chelsea Reeber. A local businessman's idea of a public private

(00:26):
partnership for a fifty five to sixty million dollar baseball
complex behind the Costco Store has the interest of the
College Station City Council. No official direction was given at
last night's council meeting, but the managing partner of a
College Station based construction company could get an answer in
the next thirty days. Thomas Rogers wants the city to
spend fifteen to twenty million dollars and donate or lease

(00:46):
eighty acres of land.

Speaker 2 (00:47):
I'm not asking you to give the barn away. I'm
asking you to help participate so that I can actually
go to a bank and leverage a note at a
much cheaper interest rate. To make this financially viable, we
would have some private equity, and we already have those investors.
Lined up.

Speaker 1 (01:03):
The baseball part of the project includes a thirty eight
hundred seat stadium and eight adjacent artificial turf fields. Rogers
also proposes a lodging component that he projects will generate
sixty thousand room nights a year.

Speaker 2 (01:14):
Single family casitas for privacy and comfort, ten unit team
oriented sleeping units with shared communal spaces RV slips accommodate
budget conscious families, a common choice for summer tournament travel.

Speaker 1 (01:26):
The council discussed, but did not resolve, how the public
private partnership would impact the ongoing design at Veterans Park
of a smaller baseball stadium and two adjacent fields. Repairs
at Bryan City Parks was part of the monthly update
at the city Council meeting of capital and maintenance projects
by City Manager keem Register.

Speaker 3 (01:44):
City staff is planning repairs at Bob Bond Park to
chaining fencing in multiple locations throughout the complex to address
immediate safety and security concerns.

Speaker 1 (01:52):
Brian Park's employees also cleared leaves and debris from trails,
did high risk tree removal, and repaired park lighting systems
all but six minutes of a Brian isd School Board
meeting on Monday night was held behind closed doors before
going into executive session. The board approved spending one hundred
and fifty six thousand dollars from the twenty twenty bond issue.
Board member Julie Harlan Woolf confirmed with Construction Services Director

(02:16):
Bobby Griffin about replacing door knobs at four elementary schools.

Speaker 4 (02:20):
So you're talking about round knobs that are not eighty
eight compliant versus levers that carget.

Speaker 1 (02:26):
The boards meant ninety minutes in executive session discussing undisclosed
legal personnel and student matters. A Brian man, convicted by
a Brass County District Court jury in July for assaulting
a jail officer, was sentenced by the judge on Tuesday
for ten years in prison. Assistant District Attorney Jessica Escue
says they are trying to get twenty seven year old
Joseph Sweet transferred to a state prison as soon as

(02:48):
possible due to his behavior while in jail.

Speaker 4 (02:51):
Now on October ninth of twenty twenty five, the defendant
has continued with his behavior, including setting fires in the jail,
threatening jail staff, harassing staff, threatening other inmates.

Speaker 1 (03:02):
According to online records, Swede has had twenty five court
cases in Brass County that includes three penning felony trials.

Speaker 5 (03:09):
The head of the company that manages.

Speaker 1 (03:10):
Easterwood Airport for the Texas A and M System does
not anticipate any disruption in activity during the federal shutdown.
John Clanton at Aston Aviation says air traffic controllers at
easter Wood are not federal employees. Their controllers work for
a private contractor who is not subject to furlough or
downsizing that is being seen in the overall federal workforce.
The Texas A and M System Board of Regents is

(03:32):
holding another special meeting on a Friday this Afternoon's agenda
calls for action to finalize the hiring of the president
of the system's new university in Victoria and approved naming
rights at Tarleton State's basketball court that is part of
a new one hundred and thirty million dollars basketball and
concert arena. Someone is also buying naming rights at the
men's basketball coaching offices, where head coach Billy Gillespie was

(03:53):
reinstated this week, three days after the system started an
investigation into an anonymous person's undisclosed complaint against the former
Texas A and M head coach. WTAW news time is
eight minutes after eight. It's sixty five degrees. News is
presented by David's Jewelry and Coin Exchange. More news at
eight thirty or online at WTAW dot com. I'm Chelsea

(04:14):
Reeber for sixteen twenty ninety four to five WTA W.

Speaker 6 (04:18):
Hey, Hey, good morning. It's eight ten. It's a Friday.
It's the infomaniacs. Glad you're with us. Let's have a
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(04:38):
there you are. In the meantime, we're gonna need a winner, and.

Speaker 5 (04:41):
Ypes I've got one picked. I can bring it down
to you. It's amail you.

Speaker 6 (04:46):
Oh yeah, it's yah inside Baseball. I left my phone at.

Speaker 7 (04:50):
Home this morning. I don't know how you're functioning.

Speaker 6 (04:52):
Scott I've done it. I don't know. I've done it
like three times in the last two months. And I
know exactly where it is. I know it's leaning up
against my computer screen at home, you know, which doesn't
help me, but right, and we usually we communicate from
time to time during during the show, and so as
a result, I've had to get my steps in this morning.
When it comes to that, I was weak, I admit it.

(05:15):
I I broke down and I went and bought those
blue chips yesterday.

Speaker 1 (05:20):
Chip social yeah, right, And they're so thin you almost
feel like you're eating air I know, which means you're
not really consuming any calories.

Speaker 6 (05:29):
It's a good it's a good thing I didn't open them.
I will the car driving home.

Speaker 5 (05:32):
Oh yeah, I will say.

Speaker 1 (05:33):
The only you know, if there were to be a complaint,
you gotta be if you are going to have a
dip with them, it can't be too thick, because they're
not a sturdy chip. But they're not They're not strong
enough to you know, really handle like a super chunky
salsa or maybe even like a thick caso. They may
end up kind of breaking on you. But they're they're delicious, Yeah.

Speaker 6 (05:55):
They know, and like you said, they're very light.

Speaker 7 (05:57):
And you just you so they're a blue corn tort
I remember when they first came out. I was living
in Arkansas and Little Rock and a restaurant in town
there came out with the blue corn tortilla chips and
the first person I saw eating them sent them back
because she thought they were burned.

Speaker 6 (06:13):
Oh good, Well that shows what people in Arkansas do
with it with food. Yeah, that's and again not much salt.

Speaker 7 (06:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (06:21):
Yeah, I still one of my favorites since we're on
the subject of tortilla chips, because I have some at
my house right now. The h GB ones that they
make in the bakery are so good, is that right? Yes,
they are so good. They come to the big plastic bags. Yeah,
they're really not had those. Oh really, Yeah, you guys
are missing out there. So they're in the bakery though,

(06:42):
like you have to go like near the bakery because
they make them there and they just they're usually on
like a big shelf with just the different breads and
stuff like that. But they have I think they have
an unsalted version. I always do the sea salt and yeah,
so it.

Speaker 7 (06:56):
Needs the unsalted. But I know there's people that need that.
I don't need that.

Speaker 6 (07:00):
I don't need any of them. You can't stop.

Speaker 5 (07:04):
I know, I know, I know.

Speaker 6 (07:05):
So climate change has been linked to all sorts of
environmental situations that you know, we know, But now scientists
suspect that. Have we talked about the bird, the new bird,
the green bird?

Speaker 4 (07:17):
No?

Speaker 6 (07:17):
Okay. Residents in San Antonio first noticed this bird back
in twenty twenty three, shared a picture of it on
various bird enthusiasts Facebook groups. I sent it to it. Oh, okay,
that's the reason I didn't know. I haven't.

Speaker 5 (07:32):
I feel like I would have remembered it.

Speaker 4 (07:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (07:34):
I've had this story for like a week, and I
said it to him immediately since he was a bird nerd.
Although the bird resembled a blue jay, it had the
facial markings of a green jay.

Speaker 7 (07:44):
I didn't even know a green jay existed.

Speaker 6 (07:46):
Right, Well, now you do. They took a blood sample
for DNA and tested it the offspring of a blue
jay and a green jay, not just a blue jay
with a genetic mutation.

Speaker 7 (07:56):
Okay.

Speaker 6 (07:57):
They found that the mom was a green jay and
dad a blue jazz.

Speaker 1 (08:01):
Oh.

Speaker 6 (08:01):
The two species generally are not in the same proximity
but years ago, green jays were primarily found near the
Texas Mexico border, they having sense its expanded northward about
two hundred miles in Texas, likely the reason they're looking
for cooler weather. Oh okay, so the newly named groo
jay if you will, Ah, the grew jaz isn't the

(08:23):
only hybrid born out of new habitat overlaps numerous groller
bears that would be a crossbreed between grizzlies and polar bears. Oh,
I've been spotted in the past decade.

Speaker 5 (08:33):
Okay, Wow, that's cool.

Speaker 6 (08:35):
It is groller bears.

Speaker 1 (08:36):
I can't you really have to be a burd nerd
to look at this grew jay and realize it's not normal,
you know what I mean?

Speaker 5 (08:42):
Like it just to me, it just looks like a
blue jack.

Speaker 7 (08:44):
It's a little lighter.

Speaker 1 (08:45):
But when I really look at it, I do see
the difference. And obviously people who study birds would know
that's it.

Speaker 6 (08:50):
So the new graduate from dogg obad in school. Yes,
out in the world, yes, yes.

Speaker 1 (08:56):
Yes, So you know we decided to you know, our
trainer had discussed exposure and in going out to public places,
which I've brought Dottie multiple places before, but one place
we have not been is Murdox and I know that
you've talked about it in the past and so and
you know, we just the mall was a quick trip,
so I said, hey, let's go. She I've been meaning

(09:17):
to try to find her a new toy not toy
bone that she could chew on, because she does like
to chew on things, but she can be a little
bit picky about what she decides to go for or
not and so so yeah, so we took a little
field trip to Murdox. I had not been in there yet,
so fun store to walk around in. It was wasn't
too crowded, so she was really good, just kind of

(09:39):
stayed next to me, sniffed a lot of different things.
We went down the treat aisle and found one that
I thought she would like, which when we got home
she did indeed really enjoy. She did get a little
like on alert at one point, and I realized someone
else had also brought their dog in the sumer and
he was also a lowrider low to the ground, so
they must have seen each other under the clothes racks.

Speaker 5 (10:01):
Yeah, because I was like, what is she getting like?
I thought she was excited about just the.

Speaker 1 (10:05):
Person who was walking by, and I was like, that's weird,
Like she doesn't usually react that way. And then I
realized there was another dog, but h So yeah, she
got a couple of compliments.

Speaker 5 (10:13):
Which we always enjoy. So yeah, it was a good
little trip.

Speaker 6 (10:16):
Depends on the time. One time I took Maggie and
then when they had new chicks baby chicks in there,
Ca fascinated by that. I bet she heard him cheap there.
Oh yeah, yeah, I picked her up so she could
look at that. But that is that's a that's a
fun store. They got a lot of stuff.

Speaker 1 (10:30):
Yeah, they had also, I you know, I kind of
knew they were a little bit of a carry all,
had all sorts of things, but I was I didn't
know what to expect.

Speaker 6 (10:38):
Sniffle bles over. Oh yeah, definitely, it's the inflamatiacts. It's
eight eighteen. Okay, now hang on, all right, I've got
to go. I don't I can't put my glasses on
and then dial the phone over here. God, what a hassle.

Speaker 5 (10:51):
I should have just brought you in the paper. It's
my bad.

Speaker 6 (10:54):
I should have never left my phone at home too.
That would have been easy. All right, we want to
talk to her winter if we can do that, all right,
we'll try one more time.

Speaker 1 (11:03):
Okay, mind you I'm pretty sure everyone answered.

Speaker 5 (11:08):
I prefer to be early.

Speaker 7 (11:09):
Yeah, right.

Speaker 6 (11:14):
Now I can't even get along.

Speaker 8 (11:17):
All right, all right, now we're cooking, well, I hope.
So just hey, well it's Scott and Chelsea and the informaniac. Congratulations.

Speaker 6 (11:29):
So our question was earlier late, and you of course
said you would.

Speaker 9 (11:32):
Rather be early.

Speaker 5 (11:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (11:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (11:35):
Are you pretty good at it? Are you pretty good at.

Speaker 5 (11:39):
It being early?

Speaker 2 (11:41):
I'm very good at it?

Speaker 7 (11:42):
Ye yeah.

Speaker 8 (11:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (11:44):
So now do you take a book or just how
do you entertain yourself when the rest of the people
are meeting? You don't get there on time?

Speaker 7 (11:50):
Right?

Speaker 4 (11:51):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (11:53):
You know?

Speaker 8 (11:53):
Talk to other people there you go.

Speaker 2 (11:57):
Early?

Speaker 5 (11:57):
Other people?

Speaker 6 (11:58):
Yeah, exactly what do you do? Will?

Speaker 2 (12:01):
I'm the facility manager for an m Methodist church.

Speaker 6 (12:04):
You're the what kind of manager? I'm sorry?

Speaker 5 (12:06):
Facilities?

Speaker 7 (12:06):
Civilities actually know?

Speaker 6 (12:08):
Will?

Speaker 7 (12:08):
I went to church with them for a long time.

Speaker 6 (12:10):
There you will? Hey, well, hey, listen, we've got tickets
for you for the Texas Renaissance Festival, which opens this weekend.
Had the Braces Valley Fair and Rodeo, which also is
going on next weekend. So come by the top of
the Guaranty Bank building. We got it for you and
you could be here anytime you need to.

Speaker 9 (12:27):
Okay, okay, all right, thanks will.

Speaker 5 (12:29):
Thanks well, bye. Talk. Yeah, don't get here early. Nobody
will answer the front door.

Speaker 6 (12:34):
Talk to other early people.

Speaker 1 (12:36):
Like, yeah, I like to bring my book. Obviously everybody
is a phone on them these days. You can, you know,
waste time on that. Yeah, but I think most people
would prefer to be early than late.

Speaker 6 (12:46):
So you want to get into the Guinness Book of
World Records. Okay, this is some There are people who
want to do that. You find out that they don't
have a category that you could excel in. So what
do you do?

Speaker 5 (12:58):
You make up your own.

Speaker 6 (12:58):
You get in touch with them. A Kentucky guy known
as Halloween Herm is attempting to secure a Guinness World
Record with his elaborate Halloween decorations at his home in
Cold Spring, Kentucky. This annual tradition, which he calls Dead
Spring Cemetery, has been going on for decades, inspired by

(13:19):
his late mom, who was known for her Halloween displays,
so Herm began setting up his decorations on August the eighteenth,
the anniversary of his mom's passing back in nineteen ninety nine.
This year's display includes new features such as Taylor Swift Skeleton,
a nod to the Cincinnati Red's playoff run, and he
is currently processing He's in the process of applying to

(13:42):
the Guinness World Records, noting that there are no existing
records for this. As far as the number of props
in a Halloween display, he says he's got three hundreds,
so there, and he wants to get into the book.

Speaker 1 (13:55):
Okay, I don't know if we've ever asked on the show.
As many of these Guinness World Records as we've talked
about why it's called the Guinness Book of Records.

Speaker 7 (14:04):
I believe it has something to do with the Guinness Beer.

Speaker 6 (14:06):
Company, does it?

Speaker 5 (14:07):
Does it?

Speaker 6 (14:08):
Does?

Speaker 8 (14:08):
So?

Speaker 1 (14:08):
Yeah, So I googled it as you were talking because
I didn't really care about Halloween.

Speaker 5 (14:11):
Herm so named.

Speaker 1 (14:13):
So it is named after the Guinness Brewery, which created
it to settle pub arguments and as a promotional item.

Speaker 5 (14:21):
So the idea came from.

Speaker 1 (14:22):
Sir Hugh Beaver, who was the brewery's managing the Beaver
Beaver Sir Hugh Beaver. He was the Breweri's managing director.
He got into a debate during a hunting trip in
nineteen fifty one over the fastest game bird in Europe.
Couldn't find the answer in any reference book. So he
realized with facts about records, they could be popular, and
he hired the mcwerder twins to compile the information.

Speaker 6 (14:46):
Wow, and then we've.

Speaker 5 (14:47):
Got the book. H Yep.

Speaker 1 (14:49):
The book was an instant success, it says, becoming a
best seller. It was so popular that the company decided
to release an updated edition every year. Man.

Speaker 7 (14:59):
I used to get them every year and they would
always end up. You know, back in the day.

Speaker 6 (15:03):
Before phones, how much is one of those costs?

Speaker 7 (15:05):
They weren't expensive back I mean it was you can
get the paperback for ten or twelve bucks I think,
and always you went through it immediately, but then you
tossed it in the bathroom, right because you didn't have
a phone to look at while you were in there.

Speaker 6 (15:18):
I'm trying to look it up, the price of a Guinness,
the cost of the Guinness Book, And yeah, I haven't
found it yet. Anyway, it's out there somewhere. And but
we've talked about it.

Speaker 5 (15:28):
Can you still buy them?

Speaker 9 (15:30):
I bet you?

Speaker 7 (15:30):
I'm sure again, Oh yeah, I think you can.

Speaker 6 (15:32):
The thing is you need to know when the book
is going to come out, right, very important that you
do that because you don't want to do it right
after it's published.

Speaker 5 (15:42):
Well now it's okay.

Speaker 1 (15:43):
So now it's interesting what I'm finding and I'm on
their store online. Okay, So your Guinness World Records for
twenty twenty six thirty five dollars.

Speaker 5 (15:51):
Okay, and that's a personalized edition. You can have your
name put on it.

Speaker 1 (15:54):
Well yeah, but then they also have like the gamers edition,
and they have the soccer edition because they've they've got
so many different record sick.

Speaker 7 (16:06):
Back then and the records they're doing now, so they
have like.

Speaker 5 (16:09):
A sports version, different things like that.

Speaker 6 (16:12):
So huh, all right, there we are, now we know
about it.

Speaker 1 (16:19):
WTAW news time is eight thirty one. It is sixty
six degrees. Good morning, and happy Friday. I'm Chelsea Reverb.
The Brassos County District Attorney's office is trying to get
a Brian man to prison as quickly as possible. This
is after a judge on Tuesday sentenced twenty seven year
old Joseph Sweede to ten years for assaulting a detention
officer in March of last year.

Speaker 4 (16:40):
He is someone who has been a problem here in
Brass County for a number of.

Speaker 1 (16:44):
Years, Assistant District Attorney Jessica Escue says since December of
twenty twenty two, when Swede was booked at the jail
for the eleventh time and ten years, he has constantly
caused problems.

Speaker 4 (16:53):
Setting fires, harassing jail staff, sexually harassing jail staff, threatening
jail staff, threatening other inmates, and being violent in the
Brass County Detention Center.

Speaker 1 (17:05):
Swede faces three more felony trials, one for biding a
Bryan police officer and two for evading arrest. The monthly
update to Bryan City Council members of capital and maintenance
projects by City Manager Keen Register included staff completing repairs
at city parks.

Speaker 3 (17:21):
Including the sand volleyball court, maintenance, clearing of the leaves
and debris from trail systems, the granite trail improvement, internal
park system, trash collection services, high risk tree removals, light
system repairs, and the pressure washing of park pavilions.

Speaker 1 (17:36):
Register also said at Bob Bond Park, city staff is
planning repairs to chain link fencing to improve safety and security.
The College Station City Council last night indicated its interest
in a local businessman's offer to enter a public private
partnership to build a fifty five to sixty million dollars
baseball complex behind the Costco Store. A formal decision could

(17:56):
be made in the next thirty days on the plan
presented by Thomas Rude, who is the managing partner of
a College Station based construction company. Rogers confirmed accountsman Bob Yancey,
the private investment that he has secured and the cost
to build a thirty eight hundred seat stadium and eight
adjacent artificial term fields.

Speaker 9 (18:13):
So much capital do you have? You said?

Speaker 7 (18:15):
Forty million dollars?

Speaker 9 (18:16):
Is that right, es sir?

Speaker 2 (18:17):
City participation fifteen million if there's no champ field, twenty
million if there is.

Speaker 1 (18:23):
Rogers is also asking the city to donate or lease
eighty acres of land in addition to giving fifteen to
twenty million dollars, subject to soil tests coming back to
show the complex can be built. Rogers said he would
he could complete construction by June of twenty twenty seven.
City Manager Brian Woods believed the soonest the complex would
open is the summer of twenty twenty eight.

Speaker 9 (18:43):
Even if you told me we could get exactly where
everyone wanted this to be and we could get the
utilities and things going like I think, it would be challenging.

Speaker 1 (18:52):
The thirty day window to consider the public private partnership
will also have a yet to be determined impact on
the design and possible construction of a smaller baseball stadium
and two fields at Veterans Park. No disruption in activity
at Easterwood Airport is anticipated during the federal shutdown. That's
according to the head of the company that manages Easterwood
for the Texas A and M System, John Clanton at

(19:14):
Aston Aviation says, for many years, Easterwood has been the
beneficiary of the Federal Aviation Administration's Contract Tower program. Their
air traffic controllers work for a private contractor and not
the federal government. For the third consecutive Friday, there's a
special meeting of the Texas A and M System Board
of Regions, but unlike the last two weeks, this afternoon's

(19:34):
agenda does not include scheduled action involving the flagship campus,
though the agenda keeps the door open for auction on
unidentified action on unidentified new and old business. Scheduled action
includes finalizing the hiring of the first president of the
system's new campus in Victoria, and approving naming rights at
Charlton State's new basketball and multipurpose arena, which seats eight

(19:55):
thousand for basketball and ten thousand for concerts.

Speaker 5 (19:58):
One of the naming rights is for the men's.

Speaker 1 (20:00):
Basketball coaches offices, where head coach Billy Gillespie was reinstated
earlier this week. The former Texas A and M head
coach was on administrative leave for three days while the
A and M system investigated an undisclosed complaint from an
anonymous person. Brian ISD school board members this week approved
one of the final expenditures from the bond issue that
voters approved five years ago. Bisd's construction services Director Bobby

(20:24):
Griffin says they received three bids after approaching one hundred
and eighty potential vendors to replace door knobs at four
elementary schools.

Speaker 9 (20:32):
For the most part, it is literally changing out the
old round knobs and replacing them with clever set.

Speaker 1 (20:38):
The purchase of one hundred and fifty six thousand dollars
of door levers that comply with the Americans with Disabilities
Act was more than fourteen thousand dollars under the projected budget.
You're invited to plant wildflower seeds today at noon at
College Station's Richard Carter Park. The event, hosted by the
A and M Garden Club, will include Miss Rodeo Texas
and former Aggie Equestrian team member Ranna Santos was spreading

(21:00):
the wildflower seeds. Participants will also be given seeds to
take home to plant as a way to promote pollinating insects.
WTAW news time is eight thirty six. It is sixty
six degrees. More news anytime at WTAW dot com. I'm
Chelsea Reeber for sixteen twenty ninety four five WTA W Hey,
Good morning.

Speaker 6 (21:19):
Is eight thirty seven. Is the Inflamatax on a Friday morning.
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(21:41):
How you doing this morning?

Speaker 10 (21:42):
Doing wonderful?

Speaker 6 (21:42):
Thank you, Scott, so you got it. I know you
finished early last night as the usual early.

Speaker 9 (21:47):
In the morning.

Speaker 6 (21:47):
Yeah, so anyway, but you brought a guest with you
this morning.

Speaker 10 (21:51):
Yeah, we're always happy to have our wonderful city manager
Brian Woods.

Speaker 6 (21:54):
Good morning.

Speaker 9 (21:55):
How are you morning?

Speaker 6 (21:56):
You look a little tired.

Speaker 9 (21:58):
Well, you know, I'd like to say I'm surprised, but
we have a habit of going a long.

Speaker 6 (22:03):
Yeah, you do. And we like democracy and you have
to stay engaged in an attentive to everything. Whereas people
like me, I can get up and I can go
get a glass of water or something. Coming back, you've
got to be engaged the entire time.

Speaker 9 (22:16):
Yeah, I will say I always am impressed with the council,
not only because they have to be engaged, but they
have to be up on the dais with everybody looking
at them the whole time. Yeah, they do something.

Speaker 6 (22:28):
So I want to start with the comments that Bobby
Gettira's made when he was here Wednesday, having to do
with the trolley at Midtown. I asked him about that.
So this is about forty five seconds. I edited it slightly,
but I don't believe I've changed basically the information.

Speaker 11 (22:43):
Two years ago, three years ago. Now, we did the
whole trolley thing. We've talked about it. We went with
the Chamber Commerce, and Chamber Commerce was going to lead
this because it's something that's very much Needive cau Station
signed off on a letter of support for us, and
you know, we got that thing allocated. We're waiting on
BTD briss Transit District right now to get these is done.
And then all of a sudden we find out that
you know, I guess basically Brian Woods has said, no,

(23:05):
we're not going to do anything.

Speaker 6 (23:06):
It's going to help the city, or Brian, We're just
not gonna do it.

Speaker 7 (23:08):
We we'll do a trolley between what.

Speaker 6 (23:10):
You mean he said that, but he wrote it someplace
or he was quoted at some place.

Speaker 11 (23:14):
Or where can you take in one of the branches
transiting meetings. You know, there was this one of those
things that We're just what I'm hearing now from everybody
else and from BTD and everybody. That's what they're not
going to do. Istther it's going to help Brian. We're
not going to participate your comments.

Speaker 9 (23:30):
Well wow, uh, that's that's absolutely not true. I think
you asked the right question and he answered it correctly,
which is he did not hear that. He did not
see that. And if you whenever you have a Wendy
or somebody on for BTD, you can ask them to
verify that. I think it's it's interesting. So a few
things to unpacking there. Not knowing we were going to

(23:51):
talk a lot of trolley on the program necessarily, but
I think there's some good pieces for people to understand
about how things work there. So, uh, Margotiers is correct.
City of Brian came up with this idea to have
a trolley brought to us. They wanted federal funding, so
we did. We signed off on a letter supporting it.
It doesn't cost the city of College Station anything when

(24:13):
it comes to that funding. We expressed concern at the time,
as we do. If you ever listen to our meetings,
I think I'm pretty notorious for any time we build
something being concerned about the operations and maintenance calls. I
think if I remember, of course, I don't think there's
anything finalized yet because they I've never even seen a
proposed plan, like a financial plan for this. It basically

(24:34):
is at the edge of College Station and then goes.
I think the route is four and a half miles
of Brian and maybe a mile in College Station or
something around that area. So I mean it was designed
to bring people from College Station to Brian. I remember
the first rap I saw of it, it was completely
city of Brian. So this is their idea. We supported

(24:55):
it from that point. I think. One, I again want
to reiterate the statement that we we or I wouldn't
do something because it benefited Brian is completely false and
and we want Brian to do well. I think, though,
there is something in there that we have to look at,
and it's true. And if you go to our council
strategic plan this year, and I think going back a

(25:16):
couple of years, one of the things that they put
in there as an action item, which is where I
get my direction, is that any and all agreements with
external folks have to have benefit and be a good
value to the Sison's of Cols station. So when we
talk about these things, anything joint, you know that is
a that is a question. And in this particular case,

(25:37):
I haven't been because of military duty and some other things.
I haven't been to one of the BTV meanings in
a while, and Mary Gutiers, I don't believe it has
ever been to one of those meetings, not one that
I would was at. We have discussed a lot the
system on a whole because we have to fund it now.
But if you if you go look at this map,
by the way, if you talk about who you know,

(25:58):
who's doing what, the majority of the system is in
Brian right like, we're funding it at the same level.
And just from a factual standpoint, we have funded it
and funded it in next year's budget. It is not
in Brian's budget. And my representative on that committee actually
told me after he heard this, he said, you know
what's interesting is the morning of that last committee, a

(26:20):
senior management staff member in Brian, who I won't name
check because I don't think you should do that, called
and said, hey, are you guys interested in pulling out
of BTD. You know, we know we will have to
fund the trolley and then basically expressing, you know, we
don't even have funding in for twenty six so I mean,
I guess what I would say is is I think

(26:41):
facts are really important in situations like this, and going
out and saying things like that can be detrimental to
a lot of folks on a larger scale. For me,
this is part of the job, I guess when you're
the city manager. But I do what the council wants
me to do. And that's who I really heard from
this first was the council members saying, you know, we

(27:02):
feel like this is a shot at us, and I
unfortunately think there's a pattern of this. I mean, when
we were had a joint tourism committee or group in
this area, Colle Station was funding eighty percent of it,
councils said to pull out of it. I got, you know,
kind of name checked and discussed in the public by

(27:24):
people from the c Brian elected officials. And then when
we were providing ambulance service seven and fifty thousand dollars
a year worth that the College Station taxpayers were funding
and we went and tried to work out an agreement
on it. Again, I mean, I think I was they
made a whole presentation and used me and came on
the air, and so here we are again. So I

(27:46):
guess if the shot at me directly or really Counsel,
because they're the ones who give me direction, is that
we are always minding and making sure that while we
want to benefit the Brases, Valley and certainly Brian and
and everybody else, that we are very careful about our
tax dollars college station tax dollars. That part is absolutely accurate.

Speaker 6 (28:06):
Okay, all right, well let's move on, because now that
ask an answer, I'd like to get your thoughts just
quickly on the Legends presentation, which took place a couple
of weeks ago. What I find interesting is, I know
I've had elected people in to talk about it. I
haven't heard a thing from Texas A and.

Speaker 4 (28:21):
M on this.

Speaker 9 (28:22):
Yeah, you know one. I think it was something that's
been talked about. I mean, obviously these kind of concepts
have been talked about a lot. And when when we
got the proposal to, you know, have somebody come and
present to the council, I know there's people around the
community who have talked to either Legends or other folks

(28:43):
about it. So we did invite folks on A and
M and the system and stuff I sent on inmitation
to people saying, Hey, these guys are going to come
talk to us, and we've gotten good response. We are
starting those the process of getting together to talk about
it based on you know the concept of kind of
of what has been put out there. So it'll be
interesting to see what happens. I mean, I think anytime

(29:05):
you have won something this big, you know it takes
a lot of effort. But the concept and I think
something that you've heard from every entity is especially in
an environment like this, building one off things things that
can only be used certain times. We talked about this
in the baseball field asn't how do we do things
together that that get max value so that we don't

(29:26):
have things that are sitting vacant and I think A.
M and we have worked on many times trying to
do that. So this is another opportunity. We've gotten positive
response from them. I think they're interested in talking about
it and we'll see where it goes.

Speaker 6 (29:39):
Yeah, tell A and M's dirt and I'm sure they're
going to have a lot that they'll want to say
about that. While I talk about College station being deliberative
in their meetings. It was a sea change last night.
I mean within an hour, the world changed so quickly
when Thomas Rogers came in and made a presentation. Tell
me where was Thomas Rogers prior to this? Because he's

(29:59):
a known guy, he works here, does he lives here,
big company here, does a lot of work here. Had
he been in touch with staff about ever having a
possibility of moving this into College Station?

Speaker 9 (30:08):
And if so, when, yeah, well so and we talked
about it a little bit. But we've been talking to
them for a while. They originally had a site in Milliken,
and so we were looking at whether, at whatever level
we could partner with them again conceptually the same thing,
the private industry going to come do something. Can we
help with that? We obviously at the same time we're

(30:30):
working on our baseball fields. So we've been talking to
him for a while. But one of the big hang
ups was always just the location. For a lot of reasons,
what happens if something goes down, if it becomes property
of culstation, how do we do all those things? So
we could just never get there. Even though the concept
of a P three was really good when ironically, right

(30:52):
before the data center came out because if you originally
look at the plan for Midtown in that area, I
mean all of it gets all of that area gets
taken out and turned into these individual lots. So the
data center, had it gone through, was just such a
different animal that it potentially left property. So we actually
just said, look, would you guys be willing to come
into Calle Station, you know, if there was some opportunity here,

(31:15):
and they said sure. Previously it wouldn't have worked because
you the value of the land was too high. So
we were like, well, maybe they have this opportunity. We
know there's going to be some concern this could be
a possibility. And obviously the meeting happens. Okay, data center,
no go. And then I think what we heard too
is people just they're also not interested in that type
of use. Well that changes, you know, the framework of

(31:36):
what you're looking at out there. So given all that
and given that, okay, we're going to you know, a counsel.
When mclaheney says let's relook at this area, we got
lots of people saying that on the public. You know,
I just I asked counsel, I said, look, we you know,
we kind of looked at this if there was going
to be a data centers as another ancillary piece to it,
but like, let's just put it all out there and

(31:56):
see if it gets some traction. And so that's where
we came in. So we've talked about a lot of
things and the concept, but well we've got some real
hard work to do to figure out the specifics of
what it will look like on that site. But obviously
I'm really glad we brought it up because people seem
to be positive, sir.

Speaker 6 (32:14):
So that because of the data center. The other thing
that they took up last night was NDA non disclosure agreements.
That situation clear there was citizens who were upset. They
thought that things they didn't get enough notice and they
rose up and responded, as did counsel. Which I like,
that's that's the way that things should be. But what

(32:35):
do we need to look at that will be an
NDA situation that will be malleable for enough for the city,
but also citizens can have some knowledge.

Speaker 9 (32:44):
Yeah, and one I think India is a is a
piece of it. I think the NDA just became like
the thing people gobbed onto. Really, what it is about
is like the process by which you do all this stuff.
And I think there was great conversation. Obviously, we as
staff brought some recommendations that council is very supportive of,
and they very much mirrored some of the things council

(33:06):
members had, the public had. You know, I kind of
said last night, and first let me just say, if
you're a leader in a situation like this, in my position,
like two things can be happening. There was a lot
of talk about conspiracies and none of that's true. Everyone
is operating trying to do the best thing for the
city colle station. But just because you're doing everything the
right way and the way you've done it and consistently

(33:28):
does not mean that fits what needs to happen. And
I think we all look at that. You can't look
at what happened and say this is what we wanted,
This is the discussion we wanted. So I think some
very simple things and things that looking back on it,
I wish we had done, even if there was no
way the citizens would have ever wanted to do this,
just to make the conversation to you know, do that
setting timelines on hey, if there's an NDA, or even

(33:51):
if there's not, we're not going to vote on some
a land transfer, and I kind of do a deal
without it being looked at for several weeks or thirty
days or several meetings. You know, the council be being
more involved in giving direction. I mean, you know people
look at that and they're like, oh, you know, the
city manager's doing this and that. Listen. I am fine

(34:11):
with as much being public as possible.

Speaker 8 (34:13):
Right.

Speaker 9 (34:13):
The hardest part of my job is somebody saying that
I said something that I didn't do.

Speaker 6 (34:17):
The end, but what was made public was the fact
that you executed the NDA during a time when the
new city council members had not been seated yet, So
when they came in they were sworn in, they were
already Your council members said it felt hog tied because
this was a situation that they couldn't talk about. Why
did you have to sign this at that time?

Speaker 9 (34:38):
Well, I think it's it's not about having to sign
it at that time, but it's about the process and
procedure that had always been followed out. Now, minds you,
these don't happen all the time.

Speaker 6 (34:48):
Right, in retrospect, would have been better to wait until
the new members had been sworn in before you execute it.
What difference would two days man.

Speaker 9 (34:54):
No, I don't think it would. I think the I mean, yeah,
I would have been fine. I think. To answer the
question though, is the councils before have empowered the city
manager and said this is the way that we want
you to operate. So that's the way we operate it.
That doesn't mean it's the best way. And certainly if
you look back at these things and say, well, wish
what do you wish you to done?

Speaker 3 (35:14):
Now?

Speaker 9 (35:14):
So again, what we did is we signed it as
we do and I do, and then we inform counsel
and go forth there. Yeah, I mean, looking back just
from a standpoint of optics for me specifically, yeah, I
don't want to do anything that calls anything in question.
And I don't at all think that some of these

(35:34):
changes we're talking about are going to have some impact
on our ability to do to do any kind of
economic development stuff. Yes, there are things that could, but
nothing that's been proposed waiting thirty days. I mean, look,
if somebody wants to come in the community and do
something really big and they're not willing to let council members,
you know, then we just still tell them no, I mean,

(35:55):
that's fine. Obviously you're not going to be successful anyways
if you're not willing to do that.

Speaker 6 (36:00):
So what do you say to the citizen who says,
I've lived here for twenty years, I'm going to live
here for another twenty years, and I have staff members
in college station making decisions when they'll be often gone
when the dirt is turned on this project and it
impacts our life in what we consider to be a
negative way, and they've gone to work in another city
or gone into something else, what do you say in

(36:21):
that situation?

Speaker 9 (36:22):
Yeah, I don't know. I mean, if somebody go pull
the audio from seven years ago when I got here,
I think one unfortunately, that's been a sign of the times,
and I've said forever when I got here that I
think trying to have council members and city managers, people
that are committed to be in somewhere long term making

(36:43):
decisions like that is really important. I think the different
people interpret what the decisions are, whether they're beneficial or not,
and I think that's why it's great when citizens are
engaged throughout the process. Is one of the reasons we
try so hard on budgets and these type of things.
These are long term decisions that get made, and I
is the the councils, you know, appointee make decisions based

(37:05):
on what they tell me all the time. Council makes decisions.
So yeah, that is a challenge with any representative government.
Staff works for the council and we make those decisions
and we're accountable to it. But what I would also
tell you is in all of this, I you know,
I like to say, like I was not at that
meeting and got a lot flack. I mean directly now,

(37:27):
what I was doing was I was in uniform, right,
I mean I'm getting I'm getting emails telling me not nice,
pretty terrible things you.

Speaker 6 (37:35):
Were able in fact y right country, Yeah.

Speaker 9 (37:37):
On September eleventh, and this stuff. Right when somebody is
telling me, I thank you for your service and everything
you do. Like, I'm the same person. So the people
that are out there, your staff members that you're talking about,
I mean, you know, I've got my office has people
two of them with over thirty years experience in the city.
People do this work because they want to see the
benefit for the citizens. It doesn't even help. I mean,

(37:59):
it's it's it's easier for us to do nothing right,
So we're always trying to do the right thing. I
think the best thing that can happen is that people
are engaged and they understand what my police chief I think,
always told me is you give me the benefit of
the doubt. And for the same reason, I would say,
while you know, they're a select group of people who

(38:19):
whether they're going after me or going after counsel or something,
or are really out there no matter what, there are
a lot of people who really get upset about something,
whether it's a data center or come to this and
come to us, and like, that's not personal to me.
I understand whether upset. Part of my job is to
figure out what to do to help them. And when
I did deploy from this city, I went to a

(38:40):
war zone. These were the same people who took care
of my kids, who called my wife. So like, we
work for the good of the community, and sometimes that
meaning that people come and go, just like people come
and go into the community, we have to value their
opinion just as much as well. So I do think
it's about trust. I think it Unfortunately we're in an

(39:01):
environment where people use distrust for their own good and
the more we can get, the better and one of
the reasons that when you look at a situation like
the data center, even though I wholeheardly believe nobody did
anything illegal or without any kind of good intent, like
you just have to try and do it better.

Speaker 6 (39:19):
Got about a minute left? Where are we with the
Macy's building.

Speaker 9 (39:23):
I mean, it's kind of the same situation we always
when we come in here. We have people looking at
it and it's you know, get offers and things from
time to time, and they go to council, but there's
no specific action that we're taking. We do have people
that we're talking to from the private sector, but it
is really dependent upon them yet.

Speaker 6 (39:41):
Thanks the time this morning, Brian Woods, He's a city manager.
What else you got for us?

Speaker 7 (39:45):
So?

Speaker 10 (39:45):
Halloween events coming up next week Thursday night at the
annual fall Fest and Haunted House at the Lincoln Recreation
Center that's from five thirty to eight. Admission is free.
And also next Friday night is a Haunted Hike, an
exclusive night hike the Lick Creek Park that's from six
thirty to nine thirty. Ages thirteen and older welcome. For
more information on these at all city events, go to
CSTX dot Go slash calend.

Speaker 6 (40:06):
All right, thanks the time City collegeiation on Friday. Oh
you guys still awake.

Speaker 5 (40:10):
Oh I'm here. Yeah, I've been working on some other stuff.

Speaker 3 (40:12):
All right.

Speaker 6 (40:13):
Yeah, we covered a lot of that.

Speaker 5 (40:14):
Was a good interview though, as always, nice job, Scott.

Speaker 6 (40:17):
He was engaged. So it's a couple of minutes chill.
So what do you do this weekend?

Speaker 5 (40:22):
This weekend?

Speaker 1 (40:22):
So actually Will mentioned in his sports cast at Aggie
Softball has a game tonight, a little bit of fall ball,
and I have been tabbed to.

Speaker 5 (40:31):
Run the scoreboard.

Speaker 1 (40:32):
Okay, so I'll be out at Aggie Softball tonight and
then obviously big game tomorrow.

Speaker 5 (40:36):
I'll be up in the press box as usual.

Speaker 1 (40:39):
So just getting that done, and then Sunday I should
have a break there you go.

Speaker 7 (40:43):
Well, yeah, just taking care of my guests in the airbnb.
Get to spend a little time with the wife and
kiddo tomorrow morning, hopefully have some friends over for the
game tomorrow night.

Speaker 6 (40:52):
Yeah, what about you, Scott, I'm gonna go to the game.

Speaker 5 (40:54):
Oh you are, okay?

Speaker 6 (40:55):
The press box with you.

Speaker 9 (40:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (40:56):
Maybe they'll bust out the good food for you.

Speaker 6 (40:58):
Oh that's good. Well yeah, not dignitary, Yeah, they've got
to do Gator did we just thought the tailgates. That's
not a tailgate. Yeah, that'd be fun, wouldn't Well. Anyhow,
I hope they win because it's always more fun when they.

Speaker 1 (41:12):
It's always always more fun when the Aggies win, especially
especially right now.

Speaker 5 (41:16):
So yeah, I'll have to what time is the red
River game on tomorrow? Anybody knows?

Speaker 7 (41:20):
I think it's too I think so you have a
two thirty game.

Speaker 1 (41:24):
Yeah, they have to keep an eye on that one too.
That could be interesting. Yeah, it could be get two thirty.
You are correct.

Speaker 6 (41:30):
Oh good, well, yeah, that's for some reason or other.
Their national lead SEC game is Auburn and Georgia. Oh
why in the world would that? I mean, that's yeah.

Speaker 1 (41:41):
I think people just still aren't ready to accept that
Florida might be a formidable opponent.

Speaker 5 (41:47):
But yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 6 (41:48):
Well, they should be ready, you know what.

Speaker 5 (41:50):
I'm fine, Yeah, well I know, I know, but it's like,
just fine, keep your eyes turned away. We'll just keep
doing our thing. Just yep, yep, keep the spotlight off
of us radar.

Speaker 6 (41:58):
As al Davis said, just win, baby, that's all it's about, right,
all right? Anyboy, you guys have a good weekend. Brian
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