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December 16, 2025 • 105 mins
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Being a "Jew"; Susie Wiles; WMD; Heng Guan; Good News | Yaron Brook Show

Identity, Power, and Irrationality: From “Being a Jew” to WMDs, Trumpism, and the Fight for Reason

What does it mean to be a “Jew” in a world collapsing into tribalism? Why are Western elites paralyzed in the face of evil—from WMDs to Islamist terror—while irrational populism rises at home?

In this wide-ranging and unscripted live episode, Yaron Brook takes on identity, antisemitism, foreign policy realignment, Trumpism, Christian nationalism, Russia, Iran, hate-speech laws, and the philosophical roots of today’s cultural breakdown—plus surprising moments of good news, Beethoven, and why principles matter more than rules.

This is not punditry. It’s a philosophical diagnosis of a civilization under siege—and what reason demands next.

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⏱️ MAIN TOPICS
00:50 — What Does “Being a Jew” Even Mean?
26:45 — Susie Wiles & Power Behind the Throne
36:45 — WMDs: Why the West Refuses to Think Seriously
40:30 — Heng Guan & the Cost of Appeasement
48:15 — Good News (Yes, Really)

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1:15:22 — Tipping: irrational social rule or principled choice?
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
A lot of fun of the metal, principles of edom, LaSalle,
celeb interest, and an individual lives.

Speaker 2 (00:14):
This is the show, all right, everybody, welcome to your
one book show on this December sixteenth.

Speaker 1 (00:26):
Getting closer and closer to Christmas. Everybody is having a.

Speaker 3 (00:33):
Great, great day, great week. All right, way to begin today.
So this is the season of this Christmas season. It's
the season of celebration and goodwill. Jews celebrate Hanukock, Christians
and secularists celebrate Christmas. But there's one group out there

(00:59):
that wants to disrupt all that because they.

Speaker 1 (01:05):
Harbor a deep hatred.

Speaker 3 (01:06):
Of Western civilization and everything it represents. And that group
is Islamists, Islamic fascists, however you want to, however you
want to call them. Just this week, they have Polish

(01:28):
authorities have stopped in isis inspired attack on a Christmas market.
German authorities stopped an Islamist plot to attack a Christian market,
and indeed a number of Christian markets in Germany have
been taken over by large crowds of Muslims chanting for

(01:48):
Sharia law. US authorities arrested anti israel suspects planning and
you ars eve bombings a series of bombings actually in California.
In Amsterdam, there were big demonstration against a concert being

(02:09):
held at the Amsterdam Consulta Bah or something like that,
however you pronounced it.

Speaker 1 (02:17):
Where it was a Hanuka celebration.

Speaker 3 (02:20):
And there was a singer from Israel, a religious singer
from Israel who has has videos online of singing with
soldiers and might have even served in the Israeli military.

Speaker 1 (02:35):
And that was so ridiculous, so absurd, so.

Speaker 3 (02:38):
Horrific to the crowd that they demonstrated, they tried to
shut down the event.

Speaker 1 (02:45):
The event was initially.

Speaker 3 (02:46):
Canceled and then a small event was created a part
of this. Part of the demonstrations, they you know, you
could hear shouts of kill the Jews.

Speaker 1 (02:55):
And now this is.

Speaker 3 (02:58):
Not just it's this is in this case leftist haters
of Western civilization. And of course we know what happened
on Sunday at Bandai. It's not Bundi, it's Bon Dai
Beach in Sydney, Australia, where sixteen people celebrating Hanukkah at

(03:21):
the beach were slaughtered by.

Speaker 1 (03:25):
A couple of Islamic terrorists.

Speaker 3 (03:32):
So Islam, militant Islam, you know, radical Islam, Islam, Muslim
jihadism again, however you want to call it, is exerting
its influence throughout and the response of most people is
kind of the response to October seventh, and kind of

(03:55):
the response to the war between Israel and Hamas in Gaza.

Speaker 1 (04:02):
The response in most of the world is to blame
the Jews. That is, there's no big uprising.

Speaker 3 (04:12):
And really people getting upset at the fact that, you know,
Muslims are engaging in acts of violence against Jews and Christians.
There's no great upset at the fact that Muslims are
really trying to dominate and take over the political landscape

(04:34):
in places like Europe.

Speaker 1 (04:37):
There's no huge upset.

Speaker 3 (04:39):
At the fact that Muslims are slaughtering Jews in Sydney, Australia. No.
But you know, I posted something today on Israel on
my Twitter feed and oh my god, just unbelievable. And
I've told you this before that I get these antisemitic things,

(05:01):
but it just keeps getting worse. And the numbers, just
the numbers are stunning in terms of the number of
people with the most vile, vile commentary. You know why

(05:21):
designists few that you know lies you know that painter
in Austrian painter had to write a referenced to Hitler.
You know, Israel is trying to silence the world, and
we got to the genocide they've committed. Uh, and you
just keep going on and on and on in terms

(05:43):
of oh me personally, it's time to kick me out
of the United States. It's time to send me, send
me back to to Israel. Some of the most disgusting, ugly,
horrific memes that people are posting, really really despicable, posting

(06:09):
photos of mangled bodies of a civilian and children dead
in Gaza. And of course it is everything is Israel's fault.
You know, basically the whole thing is Israel's fault. And
you see that over and over again. I mean there's
even somebody today on Mario Nafaz Nepal who.

Speaker 1 (06:31):
Is like the news guy at.

Speaker 3 (06:35):
Twitter interviewing an Iranian American professor who basically is suggesting
now that maybe maybe it's quite possible. I'm just asking questions.
Maybe the Bondai massacre, who was an inside job by
the Mossad, Maybe it was a false flag alert. Indeed,

(06:56):
you know that's what happened with nine to eleven. After all,
he says, he says, I wouldn't put it beyond masade
in the Israeli regime on October seventh, when Hamas was
taking the prisoner hostages back to Gaza. We know that
the Israeli regime carried out the Hannibal directive, and it
did not admit this. That killed large numbers of its

(07:16):
own people, supposedly, so you know. And then he says,
regardless of who was behind nine to eleven, someone sold
their stocks right before the attack. In the United States,
never said who sold the stocks, right, We never said.

Speaker 1 (07:28):
Who did it couldn't have been Miladen, right.

Speaker 3 (07:31):
The regime that carries out genocide, a regime that bombs hospitals,
a regime that pulls the plugs on incubators and murders
tiny infants.

Speaker 1 (07:39):
It can do anything.

Speaker 3 (07:44):
And this is a common sentiment out there. This is
not unusual. This is not wacky anymore. This is not
some crazies at the margin.

Speaker 1 (07:55):
This is everywhere. I mean.

Speaker 3 (07:58):
In the BBC after the Bondie attack, Nick Robinson, one
of the commentators on BBC, asked listeners of the BBC
to imagine the impact is going to have on Muslims. Muslims,
they're worried about Muslims. Dale Vince, another commentator on BBC,

(08:22):
blamed Israel for the massacre of the Jews. Uh, it's insane.
It truly is insane. The level of anti Semitism, the
level of hatred of Jews, you know, is is I've

(08:42):
never seen anything like it. I don't think it's existed
at this level really since you know, the Holocaust since.

Speaker 1 (08:51):
World War twoists before the world got World War two, and.

Speaker 3 (08:55):
It's getting worse, and there are very few defenders is
out there, and it places me in this weird situation.
So this is me, This is me, you know, personally,
it places me in this weird situation because I do
not consider myself on a regular basis, on a day

(09:16):
to day basis, I do not consider myself a Jew.

Speaker 1 (09:21):
I'm not religious. I'm an atheist.

Speaker 3 (09:24):
I reject the teaching of Judaism, just as I reject
the teaching Christianity, and I reject the teaching of Islam.

Speaker 1 (09:34):
I am not Jewish.

Speaker 3 (09:36):
I do not celebrate the Jewish holidays. I don't celebrate
any of them. I celebrate Christmas and Thanksgiving. Those are
my holidays, and the fourth of July. Those are the
three holidays I celebrate. I in no respect, I didn't
raise my kids to be Jewish. My kids don't know

(09:58):
what it means to be Jewish, they don't know Jewish holidays,
they have no sense of what it means. I left
Israel partially because I don't feel like I don't think
of myself as a Jew in any meaningful sense. Everybody

(10:22):
knows I'm from a Jewish background because they see my
name or they know something about me, and they just
make an assumption. So I am attacked as a Jew
constantly on Twitter. I mean constantly, and you know, it's bizarre, weird, sad, pathetic,

(10:46):
annoying to be in this situation. But I really do
accept kind of in Man's perspective on this, or at
least as told by somebody worked fine man.

Speaker 1 (11:02):
That Iineman once said that she was only considered herself
a Jew in the face of anti Semitism. And right
now I'm willing to fight.

Speaker 3 (11:14):
For the Jews, not because I'm any more of a
Jew than I was yesterday, but because the injustice here
is just so horrific.

Speaker 1 (11:25):
I mean, I am a huge critic of so much
that is Jewish.

Speaker 3 (11:34):
I find the ultra orthodox Jews, that they're back clothes
and all this stuff, and who refuse to go sit
in the military. I find them despicable and horrible and offensive,
and I really despise them. And yet now I find
myself on somehow on the side defending Jews because I

(11:59):
have because of the injustice of it, and because I
am lunked in with them, whether I like it or not,
whether I want to or not, whether I would deny
it or not, whether reject it or not.

Speaker 1 (12:12):
And it seems cowardly in the.

Speaker 3 (12:13):
Face of anti Semitism to say, no, no, no, I'm not
a Jew. No, in a face of antisemitism, I am
a Jew. Come say that to my face. It really is. It's,

(12:35):
you know, the emotionally very strange and difficult to know,
you know, kind of know how to deal with it.

Speaker 1 (12:45):
Intellectually, I get what's going on, and all that.

Speaker 3 (12:52):
The anti semitis achieving re God to me is making
me just more furious and more committed to the fight
against them, you know, into bringing out the truth, into
articulating the truth, bring it on is exactly the attitude.

(13:12):
But you know, it can't win if they really bring
it on. There are a lot more of them than
they are of me. I know exactly what bringing it
on ultimately means. Bringing it on ultimately means, you know
what happened during World War Two. Now, as I've said,
and I will continue to say, this is why Israel exists,

(13:35):
this is why I was created, this is why I
should continue to exist, so that if it is brought on,
there is a way, there's a way, there's some way
one can escape to. I don't want to go back
to Israel, but I can imagine. I don't want to
imagine a situation where I have to and the the

(14:04):
just the horror of the horror of Western the Western world.
I almost said civilization, but in this to God, they're
not being civilized, the horror of the Western world. Just
accepting the Islamic story, accepting what Ramas tells it. And

(14:25):
by the way, the anti Semitic stuff that I get,
I can't tell. Some of it is clearly like leftist,
you know, the globalizing to fought out leftist. But a
lot of it is right wing, groper you know, new rights,
alt right kind of stuff. It's hard to separate them

(14:48):
these days. They look almost the same see, here's the West.
Here's the West, not paying any attention, not caring, shrugging.

Speaker 1 (15:01):
About the ever growing power.

Speaker 3 (15:03):
Of Islam within the West, and the ever growing power
of uncivilized Islam. Islam as an uncivilizing force in the West.
Non insisting, they assimilate, non insisting on the rule of
law when it applies to them. Indeed, if you saw
in the in the Bandai attack, you saw the police

(15:25):
hang back a little bit and not really engage. Well,
part of that is they're training not to really interfere,
not not not to stop the Islamists. Now, of course
when they're shooting. My guess is they were told they're
supposed to interfere. But if the training is generally, you know,
don't offend the Muslims, don't offend the Muslims. But that's

(15:58):
what most of the West to be concerned about, not
offending the Muslims. All what you get on the right is, yeah,
let's offend the Muslims, but let's take down the Jews
at the same time. When while we're at it, why not.
I mean you can see that in Fluenus and Tucker

(16:20):
and these guys, they're not concerned about Islam. They are
concerned at all about Islam. Indeed, Tucker's best friends are
the funders of the Islamist movements all over the West.
I mean, Candice so One, Tucker Carlson. They're not doing

(16:41):
show after show showing the conspiracy.

Speaker 1 (16:44):
Behind and he is a real conspiracy behind the.

Speaker 3 (16:46):
Muslim Brotherhood funding Mosques, funding you know, Koran study groups,
funding radicalized movements all over Europe and all over the
United States, within the within the the Muslim community, and
how that is leading the violence, and how that is
targeted at imposing Sharia law in the entire West. They

(17:09):
don't do any shows about that. But the idea that
the Jews control the world, that the idea that the
Jews killed Charlie Cooke, the idea that the Jews are
behind anything negative that happens in the world, that they
have devoted themselves fully and completely in their life. And

(17:31):
you know, I would say that they're just a marginal group,
and to some extent they still at just a marginal group.
But if you look at pole after pole among young
people that is the future of this country, their attitudes
are not that homoginal.

Speaker 1 (17:48):
The attitudes are not that marginal, and at the end
of the day.

Speaker 3 (17:54):
The attitudes are not that different than what is you know,
what is going on at the White House now. I
don't believe I don't think that Trump is particularly anti Semitica,
though you know, who knows what he is.

Speaker 1 (18:07):
In any given moment, he might be something different. But
let's be clear. Trump is no friend of Israel.

Speaker 3 (18:18):
He is no friend of Israel, in spite of the
Israelis wanting to believe that, in spite of everybody wanting
to believe it, in spite of the fact that he
puts on a good show and he does certain things
that appear that way. He's the guy who saved Hamas,

(18:39):
completely screwed up Gaza and Israel's on the verge of
ending it. He's the guy who's really bad on Syria
and basically supportive of an Isis former Isis president of Syria.
He's the guy who loves Zdegan, who is an Islamist
president of Turkey. He's the one who refuses to really

(19:03):
go after the Muslim brotherhood in the United States or
anywhere else in the world for that matter. And now
there is a story coming out that the United States
is in talks with Kato.

Speaker 1 (19:16):
You remember the Kataris.

Speaker 3 (19:20):
To sell them, not just Saudi Arabia and Turkey, not
just Saudi Arabian Turky, but now to sell the Kataris
thirty fives. So let's arm all of Israel's enemies, let's
arm all the people funding Islamic terrorism around the world.

(19:40):
And then you want to call this guy a friend
of Israel or a friend of the West, or friend
of Western civilization. It's yeah, it's hard for me not

(20:06):
to take this stuff personally. And when I get angry,
I really am angry because I know that whether I
consider myself, as I said, a Jew or not consider
myself a Jew. And by the way, all these attacks
that I get on Twitter, all the attacks that I'm
seeing in places like Amsterdam and elsewhere, it's not about Israel.

Speaker 1 (20:31):
It's not about Israel. They don't say Israelis did this,
or he's really a Monster's there's really he's a model,
or is Raally's a baby killers. It's all Jews. It's
all it's all articulated as Jews. They don't say kill
these Raelies, they say kill the Jews. That is that

(20:59):
is the you know, the state.

Speaker 3 (21:00):
Of the world. And as somebody who is going to
be viewed by them.

Speaker 1 (21:10):
As a Jew.

Speaker 3 (21:11):
It's legitimately scary. Oh, you know, I'm not really scared.
It's legitimately upsetting, it's legitimately infuriating, it's legitimately, you know,
really mind boggling in terms of just how we've descended

(21:32):
into this pit in hell.

Speaker 1 (21:37):
This is the West women America. You know that that
was Australia.

Speaker 3 (21:48):
Australia, and Europe is falling. Europe is falling. So uh,
you know, am I a Jew when it comes to

(22:09):
this stuff?

Speaker 1 (22:10):
Yeah, as.

Speaker 3 (22:12):
You know, I'll fight them. I'll stand up to them.
And when I say i'll fight them, I mean intellectually.
I'm not into fist fights and I don't want to
be into.

Speaker 1 (22:22):
I would lose. I would lose really badly.

Speaker 3 (22:26):
Although it's good to spread the rumor that I know
Kovmagah and.

Speaker 1 (22:30):
And kill with a single blow. It's good.

Speaker 3 (22:34):
It's good if if everybody in the world believe that.
But I'm not interested in a fist fight when I'm
interested in and I'm not interested really an intellectual fight
against them. But I will stand up against them, I
will speak out against them, I will educate people against them.

(22:55):
I will fight enough for Jews. I will fight for
Western civilization, or really for civilization. Maybe the West is
finished and all we have to do is fight for civilization,
for civilization that views individuals. Individuals is what matters the judges. Individuals,

(23:17):
not groups, not clans, not tribes, but individuals, and they
need to be stood up to. And those of you
who want to join me in standing up to the monsters,
I appreciate that, and thank you. You can come over
to Twitter and and join me in the fight over there,

(23:41):
or you know, come to Somebody talks all over the world,
but we're at a point where it's civilization versus barbarism.
It's not even like differently intellectual traditions and intellectual points
of view. They have no intellectual point of view. They
are the barbarians. Our job is not to fight them,
because the barbarians so they cannot, They cannot deal with

(24:05):
the intellectual issues. Our job is to awaken anybody who
is still on the side, at least even partially, of civilization.
Anybody who still has some respect for reason, anybody who
still believes in America, anybody who still believes in.

Speaker 1 (24:26):
The ideas of individual rights and individualism. We need to
awaken them to the real threat. The barbarians are at the.

Speaker 3 (24:37):
Door, and they're not and outside doors and inside door
its internally because they are you already, the Muslims and
their sympathizers, and the antisemitics, and the collectivists and the
just the religious barbarians. The barbarians are right amongst us.

(24:58):
And if we don't fight them, if we don't rally.
Put it that way, if we don't rally, what's left
of the good in this country and in the West,
we will all suffer the consequences. It's time to fight, guys.
There's no things are just getting worse. They're not getting better.

(25:19):
They're just getting worse. From this perspective, there will be
a segment of the show later on about the good news.
But this is you know, this is the world that
the cusp. This is a time to take sides. This
is a time to stand up, and this is a
time to be hood in that sense.

Speaker 1 (25:40):
This is a time to speak up, to speak.

Speaker 3 (25:44):
Up for the good, in defense of the good and
in rejection of barbarism. Can you believe that there are
people out there who think that the Mossade did the
Bandai And there are people who claim to be objectivist,

(26:05):
who believe nine to eleven was an inside job.

Speaker 1 (26:08):
I mean, the world is going to hell.

Speaker 3 (26:12):
And those of us who know better need a wake up,
need to wake up. How do I switch out of that?

Speaker 1 (26:31):
So there was there's a Vanity Fair article.

Speaker 3 (26:35):
Out that is based that provides details from a interview
conversation that Vanity Fair writer had with Susane Niles Wiles,
who is Trump's chief of staff. Wiles ran a Trump's campaign.

(26:58):
I think she was the first person and Trump hired
in the new administration.

Speaker 1 (27:02):
She basically runs the White House for Trump. And it's
a long article.

Speaker 3 (27:09):
It's a detailed article, and it quotes her and cites
her extensively. And this is some of the things some
of the things Susie Wiles supposedly said to Vanity fain
now Wiles.

Speaker 1 (27:27):
Just to be clear, Wiles has has.

Speaker 3 (27:31):
Written that the article published is a disingenuously framed hit
piece on me and the finest president, white House staff
and cabinet in history. I wonder if she wrote this,
although there's no all caps, so maybe it actually is her.
She says significant context was disregarded, and much of what

(27:51):
I and others said about the team and the President
was left out of the story. I assume after reading
it that this was done to paint an overwhelmingly chaotic
and negative narrative about the President and our team. The
truth is that Trump White House has already accomplished more
than eleven months than any other president has accomplished in

(28:14):
eight years. And that is due to the unmatched leadership
and vision of God. No, No God, President Trump, for
whom I have been honored to work for for a
better part of a decade. None of this will stop
our relentless pursuit of making America great again. Notice, in
no way in this statement does she deny the many, many,

(28:37):
many quotations that Vanity Fay attributes to her. She's just
taking context and all this. So let's read what Vanity
Fay actually has to say that she said about the
Trump administration. And I'm just going to read you off
of a list that was made of highlights from the article.

(28:59):
While said she has read the Epstein documents Epstein documents
and acknowledged that Trump's name is in.

Speaker 1 (29:06):
Them, I don't think anybody's surprised by.

Speaker 3 (29:08):
That, Wiles said she urged Trump not to pardon the
most violent January six writers, he ignored her advice. She
admitted Trump is looking for retribution. When there's an opportunity,
he will go for it. She tried to convince Trump
to stop score setting against political enemies after ninety days

(29:28):
in office. That effort failed because Trump's desire for retribution
never stopped. Wiles directly contradicted Trump's claim about Bill Clinton,
stating there is no evidence Clinton ever visited Jeff deffiy
Epstein's private island. She described Trump as having quote an
alcoholics personality unquote. Wiles said her ability to work with

(29:52):
him comes from growing up with an alcoholic father.

Speaker 1 (29:55):
The sportscaster Pat Sommeron on Vice president JD.

Speaker 3 (29:59):
Van as Will said he was quote being a conspiracy
theorist for a decade, being a conspiracy theorist for a decade,
and that his conversion from Trump critic to loyalist was
political driven by his Senate ambition rather than principle. She
described Alun Musk as an avowed ketamine user, an odd

(30:19):
odd duck whose actions were offered not rational and left aghast.
She called Budget director Russell T. Vote a right.

Speaker 1 (30:28):
Wing absolute zealand that he is.

Speaker 3 (30:32):
Wiles defended usad AID, which of course was basically almost
eviscerated by Doge saying that quote, anyone who has paid
attention to government.

Speaker 1 (30:44):
Knows they do very good work.

Speaker 3 (30:46):
She said Attorney General Pam Bondi completely whiffed the handling
of the Astane files, explaining, quote, first she gave binders
full of nothingness. Then she claimed the witness list or
client list was on a desk. There is no client list,
and it sure as hell wasn't on her desk. She

(31:07):
said the administration needs to look harder at deportations to
avoid mistakes. Referring to two mothers who are arrested and
deported with their children after voluntarily attending routine immigration meetings,
Wiles said, quote, I can't understand how you can make
that mistake, but somebody did. She tried unsuccessfully to get

(31:27):
Crump to delay major tariffs, signing a huge disagreement among
his advisors. Whiles summed up Trump's governing mindset this way.
He operates with a belief that there is nothing he
can do, nothing, zero nothing.

Speaker 1 (31:50):
So that is Wiles.

Speaker 3 (31:55):
Again, she claims it's out of context, although she doesn't
deny any of the quote. Supposedly, she questioned one of
the quotes and and the the the Interviewer Center recording
of the interview, where the quote is exactly what while said, now,

(32:20):
why she would give an interview to Vanity Fair, a
you know, and not particularly friendly venue to the president.
Why she would give an extensive interview to them where
she is obviously critical of Trump and all of this.
Why she would let them record it and supposedly it

(32:43):
was on record. Why all this happened. I have no idea.
Somebody should come up with a good, juicy conspiracy theory
to explain it.

Speaker 1 (32:53):
But Trump is very unhappy.

Speaker 3 (32:54):
He hasn't fired her yet, and I don't think he
will because I think he needs her.

Speaker 1 (32:59):
I think she's the one who kind of keeps order
in this in.

Speaker 3 (33:03):
This crazy, crazy, uh you know, White House.

Speaker 1 (33:09):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (33:14):
She also said, by the way, in the interview, you
just give some other examples that Trump privately believed that
Trump's aim in Ukraine go beyond limited territory concessions. That
Trump thinks that Putin ultimately wants control of the entire territory.
Trump believes that, and yet he's pushing the Ukrainians to give.

Speaker 1 (33:38):
Russia what it wants.

Speaker 3 (33:44):
He is he has a little bit more on on
this issue. With with Putin, Trump's team was divided on
whether Putins go for the article, Putin's goal was in
anything less than a complete Russian takeover of Ukraine. The
experts think that if he could get the rest of
dun't ask, then he would be happy. Wiles told me

(34:04):
this is in the article, told me in August, but
privately Trump wasn't buying it. He didn't believe Putin wanted peace.
Donald Trump thinks he wants the whole country, Wiles told me.

Speaker 1 (34:16):
And then that means Donald Trump is happy to give
Putin the whole country.

Speaker 3 (34:28):
In October, I asked Marko Rubio if this was true,
and this is Marco Rubio quote from Marco Rubio. There
are offers on the table right now to basically stop
the swall at its count lines of contact Okay, which
include substantial parts of Ukrainian territory, including Crimea, which they've
controlled since twenty fourteen, And the Russians continue to turn

(34:48):
it down, and so you do start to wonder, well,
maybe what this guy wants is the entire country. So
they know they're not fool, They're just willing to give
it to him. They're willing to support Putin, They're willing
to grant him the whole of Ukraine.

Speaker 1 (35:08):
They really, really, really just don't care.

Speaker 3 (35:13):
They want to get out of Europe and they're quite
happy to hand Europe to Putin. They they they just
you know, hate, they hate Europe. Europe is represents for
them the Left. They can't stand Zelinski or Ukraine.

Speaker 1 (35:34):
And Putin for them is the tough the tough guy,
he's the good guy.

Speaker 3 (35:39):
At the end of the day. That is Trump, that's Trump.
They don't want a fair piece deal. They want Putin.
They want to hand Putin victory and at least Trump does.
I think I think Marco Rubio actually supports Ukraine, but
I think Trump, Vans and the rest of them they

(36:01):
really really want to help Putin or at least they
don't want to stand him his way for him to win. Yeah,
that's the latest from the windows.

Speaker 1 (36:20):
Of the Trump administration. Well not the no, it's not
the end of it. We've got a couple more stories
about this.

Speaker 3 (36:29):
So at a past conference, well not a pet conference,
an announcement, Trump signed a new executive order, try to
signed a new executive order designated designating fentanyl, at least
the fentanyl not that's used in your anesthetic when you
go into the surgery, because fentanyl is used as an

(36:50):
anesthetic for.

Speaker 1 (36:53):
Surgical procedures.

Speaker 3 (36:55):
If you get a colonoscopia, endoscopy or anything like that,
they use fentanyl.

Speaker 1 (37:00):
But Street fentonol.

Speaker 3 (37:01):
Trump has now designated it as a weapon of mass destruction.
A weapon of mass destruction. I mean, words mean nothing anymore,
Concepts mean nothing anymore. I mean cause of weapons of

(37:25):
mass destruction. Cause kill a lot of people, cause give
cause give you know, kill a lot more than fentanyl.
And I think as a consequence you have to conclude
that cause a weapon of mass destruction. Guns, knives and

(37:54):
these things make there's no they make no sense anymore.
Why is he designate fencing all as a weapon of
mass destruction? Remember we talked the other day about the
difference between mustard gas and fence and all. And the
fact is that if mustard gas was being onto the
bought into the US, yes, bombing, bombing the boats would
be fine.

Speaker 1 (38:16):
And absolutely so you know, conceptually making it MLKY.

Speaker 3 (38:24):
The difference between drugs and weapons of mass destruction serves
their purpose brilliantly. Now they're just defending the homeland against
weapons of mass destruction, which means we're at war.

Speaker 1 (38:37):
But we're not at war.

Speaker 3 (38:40):
At most, it's a criminal issue people selling drugs in America.
Nobody is forcing people to take drugs. Nobody is forcing
people to eject heroin, snort cocaine, take fence and all
whatever means they take it.

Speaker 1 (39:00):
Smoke wanna.

Speaker 3 (39:02):
Now, a true thought has been committed in to some
of these people when fentanyl, without their knowledge is included
in the heroine and in the cocaine.

Speaker 1 (39:11):
Or in or whatever.

Speaker 3 (39:11):
I don't know if it's including cocaine, but an heroin,
you know. But that's the consequence of having an illegal
dug drug trade. But fentanyl is not a weapon. It's
just a drug. Fentanyl is not unleashed on the American people.

(39:32):
The American people choose to buy it and inject it
and ingest it. Fentanyl, the transportation and the sailing of
fentanyl is not an act of war.

Speaker 1 (39:53):
There is nobody wear at war with.

Speaker 3 (40:01):
So I mean, this is so irrational and and again
such a desperate attempt to justify their horrific behavior. Pretty pathetic.
Talk about pathetic. So there's a man named hng Guan

(40:25):
Hnging Guan Hanguan risk his life in China to expose
the China's Uga camps. These are the camps that China
has in Western China for the Ugash, the Muslim minority
that lives in China particularly, it's actually a majority in

(40:48):
in in the provinces in West China.

Speaker 1 (40:51):
So you know, he risked his life to to expose this.
He was he's a dissident.

Speaker 3 (40:57):
Within within within China, and he managed to escape. He
manages to escape to the United States and to seek asylum,
to seek asylum here, he actually produced video evidence showing

(41:18):
what was going on in these camps and what was
going on in China. Anyway, he has now been detained
by Ice and is going to be deported. Now, the
United States is not quite you know, explicitly brutal enough

(41:39):
to literally deport him to China. Not directly, I mean
that would be like returning a Soviet dissident back to
the Soviet Union. And if he was returned to China,
he will die. He will be killed, There's no question
about that. So it seems like the United States is

(42:00):
going to deport him to Uganda, to u Ganda, which
has very close economic and military ties with China, so
it's almost certain that if he gets deported to Uganda,
he will be deported to China and his blood, his
blood will be on Donald Trump and on the entire

(42:22):
command structure of ICE.

Speaker 1 (42:25):
And this is just despicable. It's just despicable.

Speaker 3 (42:30):
But yes, if you're a white Africana, if you're a
white South African, if your skin color is white and
you don't have slanted eyes, you are welcoming to the
United States.

Speaker 1 (42:40):
Absolutely.

Speaker 3 (42:42):
Absolutely, you can come into the United States and be
granted asylum. But you have freedom fight in China or
in Venezuela, in any country in the world with freedom
is dramatically under attack. If you have freedom, fight, if
you're risking your life to criticize your for the first

(43:02):
time in American history, really you are not welcoming America.
Unless you're white, then you are. I mean, the racism
of the current asylum program is stunning. It's explicit, and again,

(43:22):
almost nobody's talking about it. Right The only people right
now who are permitted to seek asylum in the United
States are white Africans who are being discriminated against. I
absolutely being discriminated against. By the black majority in South Africa,
and if they want asylum, they should be granted asylum,

(43:44):
although I'm not sure why couldn't they just emigrate here
under a jobs program? But why are they better in
some way more legitimate than Venezuelaans, Cubans, Chinese or a
whole wide range of people fighting against the authoritarian regimes

(44:08):
that they live under.

Speaker 1 (44:09):
Why are the South Africans more legit? Skin color? It's
all about skin color.

Speaker 3 (44:13):
It's all that's what matters to people like like Miller.
By the way, I mean the Afacanas, And again I
don't want to attribute I don't want to reade collective guilt,
but the Africanas, at least a facanas of fifty or
what is it, thirty years ago, the Figanas.

Speaker 1 (44:30):
Of thirty years ago were the people who uh imposed
apartheid on South Africa, which was brutal towards the black
majority population.

Speaker 3 (44:46):
The Africanas were the ones that sustained apartheid in Africa
in South Africa throughout the period of apartheid, and they
were the ones who most resisted, most fought against the
elimination of apotheight In the early nineteen nineties, so you know,

(45:09):
the two groups of Europeans in South Africa. There are
Africanas of primarily Dutch descent, and then there are people
from British descent immigrants from Britain Island Scotland from generally
the UK who emigrated there and settled. And there were

(45:34):
also Jews, and there are other people. But those are
the two groups of dominant groups of whites and generally,
again generally not the exceptions to this rule. Generally, the
Africanas were the ones who supported apartheight and perpetuated it,
and the British. The British were the ones who wanted
to end it and who often fought on the side

(45:56):
of the blacks. My uncle, my uncle is South Africa,
actually went to jail in South Africa for sighting with
the anti apartheid movement and was actually banished from South
Africa and apotheide was kicked out of the country and
had to flee to the United Kingdom. Anyway, I mean, really,

(46:21):
deporting a Chinese dissident back to China is just so evil.

Speaker 1 (46:29):
It's just so evil, all right, ago one more.

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Speaker 1 (48:08):
Because a lot of good stuff is happening. It's pretty amazing.
One of the most heartening trends right now.

Speaker 3 (48:18):
With regard to kind of longevity is the fact that
there is a significant decline in the prevalence of dementia.
Right now, at each age, the prevalence of dementia is

(48:38):
down competitive what it was a decade ago.

Speaker 1 (48:44):
Today's ninety year olds.

Speaker 3 (48:46):
Have less than half the risk of dementia than a
ninety year old had in nineteen eighty four. Now, nobody
knows exactly why this is happening. One could assume people
are living healthier lifestyles, maybe more exercise, maybe people are

(49:07):
eating better. There's also significant evidence, but I haven't seen
I haven't seen the data in terms of when this happened,
that the vaccine against shingles actually reduces the prevalence of

(49:27):
dementia significantly. So maybe that's a new vaccine. Maybe more
people are getting vaccinated. It's a vaccine that is recommended
for anybody over fifty they're no new drugs to dementia.
There's no real new drugs. There's no new pharmaceuticals unfortunately
for dementia. There's still a lot of research being done,

(49:48):
but nothing, no cure, nothing like that. It's much more
likely that it's something else that people are doing, not
in order to prevent their dementia, but just generally that
they are doing, like getting the Zeka vaccine Zekeo god
shingles vaccine, or like like eating better, or maybe maybe

(50:12):
more people are taking a multi vitamin. Maybe turns out
a multi vitamin is good for doing I mean, who knows.

Speaker 1 (50:16):
Nobody knows. This is the point. We don't know the
cause of it.

Speaker 3 (50:21):
You know.

Speaker 1 (50:21):
The speculations again have to do with.

Speaker 3 (50:25):
Another you know, the other speculations just speculation that you know,
the there's a high coalation between when statins were introduced.

Speaker 1 (50:38):
Statins that drug that low is cholesterol lois your l
d L. There's a high coalation between when statins when
introduced and when this starts being a phenomenon. You know, statin's.
Statins are widely used today, many many, many older.

Speaker 3 (51:02):
Americans take statins, and it could very well be that
statins are having some impact on dementia that we don't
understand or we don't know. It could be less saturated
fat in the diet, it's not clear. It could be
more exercise, probably, but it's not clear, but it could
be no difference is saturated fat. But most statns which

(51:25):
would use to LDL, and maybe maybe turns out that
LDL and whatever statins do have an impact on the brain.

Speaker 1 (51:33):
No one really knows.

Speaker 3 (51:34):
Some other hypotheses, big decline in smoking, big decline in smoking. Right,
people today who are reaching ninety are less likely to
smoke than their lives than people who reached ninety ten
twenty thirty years ago. GP one is too new to

(51:56):
really have an impact, so it's unlikely GP want are
having the impact, although certainly they might still have one.

Speaker 1 (52:03):
So the key is nobody knows.

Speaker 3 (52:11):
Again, exercise, shingle, vaccines, and it's just looking at things
that people try to explain it as.

Speaker 1 (52:18):
Anyway, this is great, this is great news. I mean
it's you have half of a you know, less than
half of a chance of getting dementia today at age
ninety than you did in nineteen eighty four. That's amazing
and we don't even know why. But there's a lot

(52:41):
of stuff like that going on. There's a lot of
just stuff that's happening in the world out there that's
really really positive. Indeed, we've talked about this.

Speaker 3 (52:49):
If you look at rates of US deaths by cause
per one hundred thousand, deaths by cause per one hundred
thousand over a twelve month period, every single one, homicide,
traffic accidents, drug overdose, alcohol are all seeing declines, not

(53:11):
quite to you know, stark lows, although homicide is getting
close to the stark clothes but lower than it was
in twenty twenty, twenty twenty one, twenty twenty two, where
deaths from everything related to human behavior rose. We're seeing
sharp declines even in drug overdose. Right everybody right now

(53:35):
is the war on fentanol weapon the mass destruction and
yet death some fentonolal declining significantly that back to twenty
nineteen you know levels, and if they continue to decline
at this rate, we might go back to twenty ten
levels where they were way below where they are today.

(53:55):
A bunch of other things that are interesting happening. Oh,
you know, a self driving truck company is expanding its
operations in Texas in twenty twenty six, it plans to
launch a fleet of autonomous trucks to halt sand sand
is used in fracking.

Speaker 1 (54:13):
I think the biggest manufacturer.

Speaker 3 (54:16):
Of sand for fracking in the Premium basin is called
Atlas Sand, and not by accident Atlas from Atlas Shrugged sand. Anyway,
it plants the Hall to launch a fleet of autonomous
trucks to halt sand used for oil and gas drilling around.

Speaker 1 (54:33):
The premium basin.

Speaker 3 (54:35):
So autonomous cars, which will mean traffic accidents are going
to plummet. Trucks are responsible for more deaths and more
accidents than ordinary cars.

Speaker 1 (54:51):
We have. We've got to overview.

Speaker 3 (54:54):
Energy has completed a major engineering milestone, which where they
have successfully.

Speaker 1 (55:00):
The energy from a moving aircraft to a ground receiver,
with the next step being to build a solar power.

Speaker 3 (55:10):
Station in space and beam their electricity down to Earth.
I think the Japanese have already done that.

Speaker 1 (55:19):
Uh. You know, Starlink is ever expanding into more and
more and more and more countries, providing really really cheap
high speed Internet.

Speaker 3 (55:32):
On a global scale pretty much everywhere, and I mean
Starlink is in most of these countries, most of these
Third world countries is significantly cheaper than you know, land
based ways in which to receive Internet, so significant increases

(55:54):
in human well being with exposure to that. Talk about
GP ones, Eli Leeley has an experimental obesity drug I
think is also a GP one called retat root tide,
which is performing better than any of the other drugs.

(56:15):
Patients on the highest dose lost nearly twenty nine percent
of their body weight over sixty eight weeks. Across all
treatment participants, average weight loss was about twenty four percent,
So it outperforms all the other gop ones that are
out there. Somebody asked me if I believe in the

(56:35):
moon landing, if you have to ask, we're probably going
to have a problem. I believe in reality and facts
in what really happened. Yeah, here's the study. You know,
as I'm reading this article, here's the study on shingles
and you. Study strengthens the case that shingos vaccine might

(56:57):
lower dementia risk by using an age based role out
in Wales as a neutral experiment, scientists found vaccinated elderly
people who were about twenty percent less likely to develop
dementia over seven years than those just outside outside eligibility cutoff.
So amazing let's see what else, what else do we

(57:21):
have here? Yeah, from a good friend Malay, the bringer
of good news of a good friend Malay. Argentina poverty
rate has fallen into thirty six percent in the third
quart of twenty twenty five, which is roughly nine percentage
points lower than the same period last year. At the

(57:42):
same time as we've got significant lower inflation in.

Speaker 1 (57:48):
Argentina. So good things are still happening even at the
political level Milay, economic level, Milay, and uh h.

Speaker 3 (58:01):
Science and technology continues to advance. You know, the Enlightenment
doesn't isn't just fading in, going away. The Enlightenment is
continuing to enhance human life. It's not gonna just disappear.
It's gonna fight. It's gonna fight the anti Enlightenment forces

(58:21):
that exist out there.

Speaker 1 (58:22):
Now.

Speaker 3 (58:23):
It won't fight them explicity because it doesn't have the
philosophy to do it, but it will fight in instead
of producing continuing to produce human progress. So really, there
you go. All right, let's see, all right, that is

(59:04):
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David asks, did your kids have a Bamtza? Well, given
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the answer to that is no, it was never on
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Of giving them doing about mitzvrah my kids.

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David Osso asked, is there much anti Semitism Puerto Rico?
So I think there is, but none that I've directly observed.

Speaker 1 (01:07:26):
You know what.

Speaker 3 (01:07:27):
I will say that when I first moved here, there
was an article in the local newspaper. This is twenty eighteen,
this is the island's trying to recover from Maria. And
there's an article in the newspaper, a ad basically blaming
the Jews and Jewish money for keeping Puerto Rico poor

(01:07:49):
and not allowing it to recover from Maria. And it
was published in the major newspaper here. So that was
kind of shocking and surprising.

Speaker 1 (01:08:00):
There were a few.

Speaker 3 (01:08:03):
Programas anti Israel demonstrations during the one gozap but not much,
nothing significant. So overall, I'd say it's here on an
island in certain places.

Speaker 1 (01:08:16):
But.

Speaker 3 (01:08:18):
Nothing that I've really really noticed firsthand.

Speaker 1 (01:08:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:08:25):
I mean, David says that he lives in Costa Rica.
He says, I have a lot of there's a lot
of anti Semitism here, but it's all very low key,
mostly Catholic ideology. I mean, you know, Puerto Rico's Catholic
as well, so Catholic ideology is strong here, and I
think it's the same kind of low key and there
is among them more intellectuals that kind of Yeah, the

(01:08:47):
Jews kind of control finance, they control the world. They
don't like us, you know, that kind of attitude I
think really does exist. Okay, they it says, is it
possible that the US is moving towards a new alliance
structure in the Middle East that doesn't include Israel. Look,

(01:09:09):
it certainly looks that way, or at least it is
creating an option for them to exclude Israel.

Speaker 1 (01:09:15):
And I don't think Trump will do it. I think
Trump generally.

Speaker 3 (01:09:20):
And it's going to be difficult for any Republican to
do it because there is a segment of the Republican
Party that is very pro Israel, the kind of evangelical
Christians that are pro Israel that Techa is constantly attacking.
So it's possible there at least creating a situation when
that becomes easier for them to do. And if somebody

(01:09:42):
like JD. Vance gets elected, then who knows. I think
all bets off the table, because I don't think Jady
Vance is pro Israel at all. I think he would
turn against Israel on a dime. I think he's pro Kato,
like you know, he follows his mental Tucker Calson. Now,

(01:10:02):
on the other hand, Marco Rubio is pro Israel. There
are others, so there would be this contest within the GOP.
I'm not sure who wins out, but I think this
administration is basically playing it so that they have they
can go either way. They can go anyway they want
in the future. David says, thank you, David. These all

(01:10:24):
David same. David questions, assuming Russia is an enemy of
the US advance and his accolades traders, Well.

Speaker 1 (01:10:33):
If you really define Russia as an enemy, then supporting
the enemy, appraising the enemy, advocating the enemy's case is treason.
In that sense, it's treason US.

Speaker 3 (01:10:45):
I don't think you'd get anybody in the United States
to advocate for that, because nobody in US wants to
declare Russian enemy, partially because the cowards, and partially because
they have nukes, and partially because they don't believe that
the enemy. They believe that friend fundamentally. David says, I

(01:11:05):
would vote for Marco Rubio. I would not, now, you know,
depends what the option is, but I would not primarily
because he sold himself to the devil, and which suggests
to me he will do anything. He will sell himself
to anybody, He will advocate for anything. So I don't
think anybody who who's serving in this administration is supposed

(01:11:28):
to be president. I think they're better candidates out there.
But yeah, I can see circumstances why i'd vote for
him where I would never vote for Jit Evans David Again,
is there any reason beyond hatred of non whites for
accepting Africana immigrants? You know, the claim is there are

(01:11:48):
the same culture as ours, the same culture as white
Southerners of the nineteen fifties who strongly believed in Jim
Crow laws. If that's what you want to import into
the United States. I mean, is there any I have
no doubt that many Africana, it's not all, many Afrikaners

(01:12:08):
would want to reinstate apothed if they could. So, you know,
the only argument is that culturally more tuned to us
because they're white and they're originally European. But no, there
is no other reason. There's no other reason the claim
is there's a genocide against whites in South Africa. There

(01:12:33):
is no genocide against whites and South Africa. Not to
say there's no violence against whites in South Africa there is.
Not to say there's no the government there is not
anti whites. They are, but there's no genocide. I mean,
you start emptying the concept down. I actually have an
incentive to know this. You know I have I still

(01:12:55):
have family in South Africa.

Speaker 1 (01:12:57):
I have to figure out who I have.

Speaker 3 (01:13:00):
I have an uncle and an aunt, no sorry, two
uncles and two aunts. Both my father's brothers still live
in South Africa with their wives. As a consequence, I
have several first cousins in South Africa, and then beyond that,
I have a variety of second and third cousins and

(01:13:20):
all kinds of relatives from different sides of my mother's
family and my father's family. Both my parents were born.

Speaker 1 (01:13:27):
In South Africa. I have been in South Africa.

Speaker 3 (01:13:31):
I was in South Africa as a child, and I
was in Southrica twice as an adult.

Speaker 1 (01:13:36):
During a potheight. I know what a potheight is.

Speaker 3 (01:13:39):
That's why I can tell you Israel there's no poth
height in Israel because I actually know what a potheight is.
I've witnessed it. I've experienced it. I've seen it, and
I've also lived in Israel experienced it and seen it,
so I can tell you exactly. But so no, there's
no why genocide going on in South Afica. But that's

(01:14:00):
the claim they're saving these people from geneside. I find
myself arguing with people about things that I actually I
mean not to boast, but reality I actually have first time.

Speaker 1 (01:14:19):
Experience with I've actually lived through. I've actually been.

Speaker 3 (01:14:25):
To places, you know, been to a lot of places
in the world, and they have usually not left the
town that they were born in that some of them
have not left their mother's basement. They basically have gone
no way, see nothing, experience nothing, know nothing. They don't
know history. They really don't know stuff. But they have

(01:14:48):
suddenty because they saw YouTube video. They have suddeny because
their friend told them something. They have suddenly because Techer
Crosson mentioned it in a part. Asked, uh, it's it's
stunning to me. Stunning to me, all right, newly, Dan,

(01:15:19):
I just read from the Missing Link about the anti
conceptual who go by memorizing rules of behavior rather than
think of principles. Yes, friends say I must tip twenty
percent for meals. How would you make this from a
rule to a principle. Well, I don't think it's a

(01:15:39):
rule or principle.

Speaker 1 (01:15:43):
I mean.

Speaker 3 (01:15:45):
Some people take it as I don't think. I don't
think it's a principal.

Speaker 1 (01:15:48):
Principle has to be an abstraction that is a concrete
it's a concrete kind of rule of behavior, if you
take it.

Speaker 3 (01:15:54):
As a rule. I don't take it as a rule.
I take it as a suggestion that sometimes I embrace
and sometimes I don't like my waiter in the restaurant
I'm going to tonight. Tonight because it's just before Christmas,
is going to get well, maybe not times because I'm

(01:16:16):
going again, going again, but it's going to get a
much bigger tip than twenty percent. You know, he's my
regular weight at this restaurant all year round. He's incredibly
friendly and knowledgeable, and we get amazing service and they.

Speaker 1 (01:16:30):
Go out of their way to treat us well.

Speaker 3 (01:16:33):
I mean they're gonna get a good tip, you know,
other ways you know will get less if this sucks
and seems to be you know, given that they given
that waters in America get low wages because they keep
expensive expected twenty percent seems to be a reasonattle better amount,

(01:16:56):
you know, given it, given where the wages up.

Speaker 1 (01:17:01):
But you get to decide. You tip what you want.
It's not a rul. It's not a principle. I mean,
some people viewed as a wool, but it's not a wool.
You can tip last, you can tap a lot more.

Speaker 3 (01:17:12):
You can do what you want. Principal is something abstract.
I'm gonna be honest, that's principal. Yeah, Thomas happy. Beethoven's birthday,
actually probably his baptism day, but who cares. What's your

(01:17:35):
favorite recording of the seventh?

Speaker 1 (01:17:37):
Oh God? Well, first, I'll.

Speaker 3 (01:17:39):
Say that on Saturday, to celebrate Beethoven's birthday, my wife
and I went to see the Puerto Weecan Symphony Orchestra
performed Beethoven's fifth and you might say perto week in
Syphniy Orchestra. They were good, and they had this unconductor

(01:18:01):
from I guess he conducts a work strain in a
long beach.

Speaker 1 (01:18:05):
He's Italian and he was fantastic.

Speaker 3 (01:18:09):
First of all, because i'd heard the fifth a few
weeks ago in Austin, and the performance was okay, it
was good, but it was it was okay.

Speaker 1 (01:18:17):
This performance blew me out of the water. It was excellent.
It had the kind of tempo that I think the
fifth deserves. Fast.

Speaker 3 (01:18:26):
It was a Tuscanini for those of you who know
who he was tempo. It had the power, the thrust,
the drama the Beethoven deserves.

Speaker 1 (01:18:37):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:18:38):
And it was it was just and and the orchestra
was great. Right, this is Puerto Rico, and yet the
orchestra is very good. And it excelled I thought with
Beto Win's fight fifth. So it was it was amazing.
Uh really enjoyed it. So yeah, go listen to some Beethoven.

(01:19:01):
Thank you for reminding me today's his birthday. I forgot
my favorite recording of the seventh. Well, I mean, you know,
you know me, I have pretty much particularly for Bethoven.
Tuscanini is is my my favorite performances of pretty much
all the Beethoven symphonies. I love his seventh again. It

(01:19:24):
has it has that Tuscanini tempo. It it it's much
faster than how most people do Beethoven, which which I
think is which I like, which I think fits in
my understanding of my emotional response to Beethoven. So I
love I love his I guess it's the NBC. But

(01:19:47):
he did a number of seventh I think there's a
seventh with one of the British showcustras, but I can't remember.
But the problem with Tuscanini is there's this a New
York Philharmonic. That's right, there's a New York Film Monic,
you know, performance of the seventh when that's when he
was at his peak. Problem with all the Siscanini performances is,

(01:20:11):
of course that the recordings just suck. I mean, the
recordings are old, the acoustics are not very good. It
you know, you can enjoy the music if you know
the piece really well. The New York Philharmonic, Thomas tells
us it is nineteen thirty six, that's right, which he
wasn't peak because he peaked really in the in the
nineteen thirties, in early nineteen forties.

Speaker 1 (01:20:36):
And so. But the recording, of course, technology was very poor.

Speaker 3 (01:20:44):
My famous modern fifth seventh, sorry seventh, but it's also
the same record has the fifth on it is it's
not that modern, but it's modern era.

Speaker 1 (01:20:55):
It's it's at least it's at least it was recorded stereo.

Speaker 3 (01:21:00):
Is colors Kliber colors Kliber And is it the Berlin
Philharmonic or the Vienna Philomonic.

Speaker 1 (01:21:11):
Wine of Philharmonic. I forget Thomas.

Speaker 3 (01:21:14):
The Kliber performance Vienna is just I think it's magnificent.

Speaker 1 (01:21:19):
One of the best records.

Speaker 3 (01:21:22):
I know that the the the the sound quality is fantastic,
his pacing is fantastic. The power what he brings out
of that audience, it's a it's a you know, it's
like it's a Central European orchestra, so they've got those
string sections down, they know how to do it right.
And that's my favorite, you know, of of the modern recording.

(01:21:47):
So other than you know, the Tuscanini, that would be
my favorite recording.

Speaker 1 (01:21:51):
It's and and the fifth there is fantastic, although I
should listen to the fifth The call is Kliber fifth
again now that I've just heard the Puerto Rican Philharmony,
just just because I was so excited by it, just
to kind of objectivity, say just to o O on me.

Speaker 3 (01:22:10):
One of the one of the greatest conductors, one of
the greatest symphonies, one of the greatest orchestras ever, versus the.

Speaker 1 (01:22:17):
Puerto Rican Philharmony. But I'd like to see actually the difference.

Speaker 3 (01:22:21):
But yeah, uh that would be I'm curious what yours is, Thomas,
what is your I don't know what's your favorite symphony
of Beethoven's and what's your favorite requoting. So I'm throwing
the question back to Thomas shoe Bottom, who is a
conductor a classical music and.

Speaker 1 (01:22:37):
Opera and ballet.

Speaker 3 (01:22:39):
He's conducting the nut Cracker, He's and uh, he's a
he's a conductor, so uh, I'm curious.

Speaker 1 (01:22:47):
He knows he knows music. So I'm curious what your
favorite Beethoven is and what's your favorite performances? All right,
I'm I'm watching the chat to get that. Oh is
this okay? Urica?

Speaker 3 (01:23:01):
And yes, sell with Cleveland. Yeah we agree on that.
I mean selling Cleveland again. All of his Beethovens are phenomenal,
all of his Bethavens a phenomenal. That generation of conductors,
we're just truly amazing. But in the Cleveland Orchestra was
a phenomenal orchestra in those days.

Speaker 1 (01:23:23):
So yes, So.

Speaker 3 (01:23:26):
He's a Beethoven third guy, I'm a Bethaven seven guy.

Speaker 1 (01:23:31):
Where do you stand? All right? Milko.

Speaker 3 (01:23:36):
Milko is nominated for the Modena Citizen of twenty twenty five,
which is pretty amazing, right, cool, but racing against politically
correct people, fighting more and more promoting reason and reality. Here,
thanks for helping my friend. Oh, thank you, Milko, and
keep up the fight, Keep up the fight.

Speaker 1 (01:23:58):
It's testing. By the way, those of you who don't
listen to classical music, you should start.

Speaker 3 (01:24:07):
You should just start. And Betain is not a bad
place to start. You should start Beto Win's third, fifth, sixth, seventh,
and ninth, not to mention Violin concurtdo third, fourth, and
fifth piano concertos and everything in between, and all the
chamber of music and everything.

Speaker 1 (01:24:25):
I mean, just stunning. The emotional content, the emotional experience
you will have from listening to that music is unlike
anything And suddenly you cannot get that from anything in
modern music.

Speaker 3 (01:24:38):
I don't care. I don't care what Yeah Thomas says.
He could go on for hours, you know he could,
I don't care.

Speaker 1 (01:24:48):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:24:49):
Who you like in popular music or rock or heavy
rock or metal or whatever, nothing kinpes close to the
experience that you can get if you tru immerse yourself
in it. From classical music, in particular my favorite, which
is Betain. Okay, And how can you say Christianity is

(01:25:11):
a bigger threat in Islam? Oh God, I keep getting
this question over and over and over and over again.
But don't want restrictions on Christian immigrations from Central South
America because Christianity is an intellectual threat. Christianity is going
to have to make its argument. It is not yet

(01:25:31):
at the point Christianity where it is going to use
force against me. When it is, and if the people
coming in from southern Latin America are militant Christians, then yeah,
I want to stop them. Muslims want to use force now,

(01:25:53):
and therefore they need to be stopped now. And one
of the things I've said over and over again is
that it appears in the West right now that the
only thing that's going to stop the Muslims from using
force is the Christians using even more force. But that's
not the Central and South American Christians. I'm talking about

(01:26:15):
the Germans, and you know, and maybe the French, who knows,
but certainly the Germans and other Central.

Speaker 1 (01:26:21):
Europeans and maybe Northern Europeans.

Speaker 3 (01:26:26):
But you know, there's no threat in the United states,
the threat of Christianity is an intellectual threat. Then still
not at the point where they are pulling out guns.
And I think the Christians coming in from Central and
South America are the least of our problems. It's the
heritage Americans who are the threat, who are dangerous. Cooks

(01:26:53):
says Detroit basketball. Did Detroit beat the Celtics yesterday?

Speaker 1 (01:26:58):
Is that why I'm seeing? If they did, that's too bad?

Speaker 3 (01:27:06):
All right, Michael, I'm seeing a lot of conservatives turning
on Trump over his disgusting tweet about Ryan is death. Yes,
but it will be temporary.

Speaker 1 (01:27:15):
They'll be back. They'll be back in line.

Speaker 3 (01:27:20):
Praising everything Trump does within hours, if not within days,
or within days.

Speaker 1 (01:27:26):
If not within hours, you should say.

Speaker 3 (01:27:32):
Michael, what is the distinction between rationality and objectivity? I mean,
there's a sense in which they're capturing something very similar.
That is, they're capturing the role of the mind in
a comprehending reality, the relationship between human consciousness and metaphysical

(01:27:56):
existence existence out there.

Speaker 1 (01:28:00):
Uh. Objectivity is the is the method by which one
is rational? That is it. It captures there.

Speaker 3 (01:28:07):
I think that's the right formulation, But anyway, captures the
relationship between or you know, the the use.

Speaker 1 (01:28:15):
Of the mind in order to capture reality.

Speaker 3 (01:28:16):
But they're all they're describing a similar phenomena from a
different perspective and answering a different question.

Speaker 1 (01:28:25):
Right. Objectivity tells us that the.

Speaker 3 (01:28:29):
That the that what we observe is the consciousness, the
consciousness acting. It's not passive consciousness acting on the evidence
provided by our senses of what's in reality itself. Rationality

(01:28:52):
is much water. Rationality is also how we deal with abstractions, uh,
and and do abstractions from abstractions. Rationality is the whole
mental all the mental processes which we engage in being objective,
that is, making sure one is.

Speaker 1 (01:29:09):
Only accepting facts.

Speaker 3 (01:29:12):
Not emotion opinion uh uh uh on substantiate opinion uh,
feelings uh, intuition and whatever. That you're not being subjective,
and that you an objectivity recognizes that the fact that
you cannot be passive.

Speaker 1 (01:29:30):
Reality doesn't just imprint itself on you. Subjectivity, you know,
recognize that you have to be active in discovering the
truth and that it has to be focused on the
facts on reality.

Speaker 3 (01:29:45):
And that's all part of rationality. But rationality is a
lot more than that. Good question for a philosopher when
they come to the show.

Speaker 1 (01:29:56):
Uh, Michael.

Speaker 3 (01:29:57):
Hate speech laws increase Islamist terrorism, shutting down discourse.

Speaker 1 (01:30:01):
They are used against you.

Speaker 3 (01:30:07):
Yeah, I mean h speech laws are primarily used in
Europe to silence people criticizing Islam. That's their primary use today.
So they're used against me totally, not Scott.

Speaker 1 (01:30:21):
Oh. I like that handle. I like that handle. Is
it a good time for coalition building? Maybe it is? God.
Now I'm suspicious with whom, with whom? Who would we
form a coalition and for what right?

Speaker 3 (01:30:37):
And man said you're going to form a coalition has
to be for something relatively narrow. Who would we form
a coalition with and for what purpose? You know, we
can form a coalition with a bunch of economists are
on tariffs. We can form a coalition with a bunch
of I don't know, Jewish organizations and pro Israel people

(01:30:58):
around Israel. We can form a coalition of anti Trump
ideas with the anti trumpists, never trump Ists.

Speaker 1 (01:31:10):
But who else?

Speaker 3 (01:31:12):
There is no broad coalition because there's nothing you can
you know, maybe we can form a coalition with somebody
like Stephen Pinka around advocacy for reason and rationality, But
what else. What do you guys think, Do you think
totally not Scott is indeed Scott? This is going to

(01:31:35):
be a big mystery now, a really big mystery like
number sixty one. Does Trump want to give more than
Putin's asking? No, Trump doesn't want anything. Trump wants the
fighting to stop and for him to be able to
take credit for it.

Speaker 1 (01:31:53):
He doesn't care one way or the other.

Speaker 3 (01:31:55):
Trump is willing to give Putin what he is asking
with the full knowledge that longer term that means more war,
that means Putin trying to take much more. That is,
Trump is quite willing to get put In what he
wants in order to get some short term peace and quiet.

(01:32:18):
Maybe Trump will kind of deal with Putin. I'll give
you what you want, just don't start another war until
I'm out of office, and then we can blame whoever
the new president is. I think that's a completely reasonable
thing to believe that Trump is actually doing. I don't
consider that a conspiracy. I consider that quite legit. Ziras

(01:32:46):
in his naivete or his fund is saying it can't
be Scott. It says totally not Scott, right, and Scott
would never lie. Michael, what does the Republican Party look
like after the fall of Mega, Will they take a

(01:33:06):
Malay approach? No, there's nobody, nobody in the Republican Party
with a Malay attitude, with a Malay point of view,
with a Malay perspective. So I don't know what it's
going to look like, but one thing is for sure,
it will not be.

Speaker 1 (01:33:20):
A Malay approach.

Speaker 3 (01:33:21):
There's just nobody even close to leadership with that kind
of attitude, that kind of perspective.

Speaker 1 (01:33:28):
Lincoln.

Speaker 3 (01:33:29):
If gop one pill is approved, it could be the
greatest improvement in human health in years. Not being overweight
adds a decade to lifespan.

Speaker 1 (01:33:38):
Yes, but it turns.

Speaker 3 (01:33:40):
Out that gop one is not only good for weight loss.
It's independent of the weight loss or controlling for weight loss.
It's actually good for things like diabetes and heart disease
above and beyond the weight loss benefits.

Speaker 1 (01:33:56):
So yes, gop one has the.

Speaker 3 (01:33:58):
Potential to reallymatically improve life span and and and you know,
the quality of life and the length of life dramatically.
It's it's very exciting, and it was when it's when
you don't have to do an injection, that'll make a
huge difference. It'll become much more popular and much more available.

(01:34:18):
Jennifer says, there's a video of a group playing Ninth
Symphony in the street. People stop to listen and through
open their windows. It was somewhere in Europe.

Speaker 1 (01:34:27):
Yeah, videos like that. I've seen videos like that.

Speaker 3 (01:34:29):
Not of the Ninth, but otherwise they're always fun and
it's great to see people's response and the look.

Speaker 1 (01:34:34):
On their face and everything else. It's it's fantastic. Raphael
YouTube twenty twenty five recap says, I mean your top
point one percent with five hundred and twenty two videos
watched from your channel. God, you watch five hundred and
twenty two of my videos this year, that's pretty amazing.

Speaker 3 (01:34:59):
Yeah, yeah, you guys all should let me know what
your rank is in terms of watching videos from my channel.
But that's that's pretty amazing. No matter how many of
you are in the point one percent, that would be interesting.
And you have to do, god, five and twenty two videos,
that's a lot, that's too.

Speaker 1 (01:35:21):
That's almost to a day.

Speaker 3 (01:35:26):
Jennifer watches all the live ones, but this can't be
all the live ones. This much include shorts and all
kinds of other videos and lectures. Yeah, you can check
on YouTube. On your profile, you can check your twenty
twenty five round up Lincoln giving you a relative poverty

(01:35:49):
when you had kids in your youth. Is it rational
to have kids in your twenties even if you had
money or you are not mature enough? Well, I mean
it depends, right, some people are mature enough and some
people are not. We had kids in our late twenties.
We thought we were mature enough. I think we were,

(01:36:12):
so we had them. Money was not a consideration. We
knew we would survive one way or the other. Again,
we were poor, and we were fine. I mean when
you know, yeah, I mean the biggest expense when my
kids were born, My first child was born, biggest monthly
expense because we get track of every dollar we spent
in those days. We still do. It's a habit that

(01:36:33):
I haven't shaken. The biggest monthly expense we had was diapers.
That was the biggest monthly expense we had. So that
was I think more than rent and more than and
more than and we When first Sun was born, we
lived in a hullable apartment. Then we after a year,

(01:36:54):
we moved to a nicer apartment. But yeah, it was I
wouldn't say it was hard. We managed fine, but yeah,
you have to make the evaluation of whether you're mature
enough yourself. But I don't think money, I mean depends
on how you are used to living and what you expect.
You know, if you go out of restaurants a lot,
and you like to travel and stuff like that. Yeah,

(01:37:16):
I mean, maybe you shouldn't have kids in your twenties,
but we want We were hunkered down in Austin, Texas.

Speaker 1 (01:37:23):
We didn't go anywhere.

Speaker 3 (01:37:24):
We didn't go out to eat, we didn't go into
a concert was a big deal, you know. We did
very rarely went to concerts. Yeah, we just we just
stayed home. And you know, we managed with kids. That's
why all this complaining about people not having money and
stuff it does, you know, and poor generations. Ze and

(01:37:47):
I and I look at how I lived, and I
look at how they lived, and give me a break,
Give me a break.

Speaker 1 (01:37:55):
Hunter, Hunter.

Speaker 3 (01:37:56):
I was active duty military for a while and I
left a couple of years ago. I've can instead of
rejoining the reserves in a few years when I'm feeling
uneasy about it given our farm policy thoughts. Yeah, I mean,
I would definitely feel uneasy about joining the military given
pharm policy, I mean, given the morons, and I'm being generous,

(01:38:20):
the emodel morons who run our pharm policy and run
out Department of War, and you know you are they.
You know, when you go into the military, you basically
have to follow orders and the orders of being given
by people that I wouldn't take a job with. I

(01:38:40):
wouldn't want to be their employees. I wouldn't want to
hang out with them at a you know, at a restaurant.
I wouldn't't have anything.

Speaker 1 (01:38:45):
To do with them. Why would I want to give
them control over my life to the extent that they
have it, which is very large.

Speaker 3 (01:38:57):
In in you know, in the military. Yeah, I completely
understand the unease. On the one hand, you want to
you want to fight for your country, and the country
is still worth fighting for. On the other hand, God,
the people in command are so anti human. Milko and

(01:39:17):
Tomorrow unveiling the impossible plane, an aircraft flyable.

Speaker 1 (01:39:22):
Only using only the feet.

Speaker 3 (01:39:25):
Marvelous engineering, the first in history. Oh exciting, It'll be
fun flying only with the feet. I can't even imagine
you're wearing shoes on a hut. I can't even imagine
how that works. You should send me a photo, I'm curious,
or video even better, Lincoln says, restaurant recommendation.

Speaker 1 (01:39:49):
Vaulters Bestrow in Salt Lake City. Vaulters with the v
Bestrow in Salt Lake City. Thank you, Lincoln moon Rock.

Speaker 3 (01:40:00):
Do you think Ben Shapiro is a sellout coward or
maybe attempting to steer the irrationality of trump Ism to
something at least mos sane.

Speaker 1 (01:40:09):
I think he's a coward. I think he's a coward.

Speaker 3 (01:40:14):
I think he knows exactly how bad Trump is, but
he knows, or he knew that if he went against Trump,
he would lose his whole financial base, the whole base.

Speaker 1 (01:40:26):
And he rationalizes it right. He rationalizes it as I'm
doing more good, I'm steering, I'm providing a backstop, or whatever.
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:40:34):
I'm sure there are lots of rationalization going on on
why it's okay what he's doing.

Speaker 1 (01:40:38):
But I think ultimately is a coward. Soupy Dubie Man
by my family quote.

Speaker 3 (01:40:49):
I agree that communism destroys man's life, but whether that
destruction is good or bad is just opinion. What is
wrong with this? Can one engage with it? If so,
how well ask him what good and bad mean? What
does good or bad mean? And you cannot have good
or bad without asking the question good for whom?

Speaker 1 (01:41:11):
And for what?

Speaker 3 (01:41:13):
And what does it even mean to say there's good
for that? Communism provides for whom for the imaginary politarian,
but it's not clear they have any good either. Good
for Yeah, I mean who is it good for? And

(01:41:33):
try to move in the direction of isn't good or bad?

Speaker 1 (01:41:38):
That which is that which is good is good for
human life, that is that for whom, it's for human life,
that is, it's for what is for life, good for
life and human life.

Speaker 3 (01:41:52):
And if you try to move in that direction and
see that, and once you see that, then it's obvious
communism is evil and bad.

Speaker 1 (01:41:59):
Whether it.

Speaker 3 (01:42:01):
Whether you can engage with that or not really depends
on him and how.

Speaker 1 (01:42:05):
We respond to that question.

Speaker 3 (01:42:09):
Hookey one on how do we fix the Libertarian Party
US say the ups turning post liberal DNC socialist garbage. Ulp,
he has no political skill. What Pea's problem is not
political skill. Lpie's problem is an absolute, thoroughly systematically unimprovable,

(01:42:33):
unimprovable political philosophy or political ideology. The Libertarian Party is
inherently corrupt. It's been corrupt since it's founding. It's not
an initial of political skill. It's an issue of awful ideas,
anti American ideas, anti freedom ideas, from anarchy to hatred

(01:42:59):
of a America in world affairs to things like hatred
of Israel. Because it's an actual functioning state, it is
it's successfool of the worst kind of people. So the
only way to fix anything is to abandon to You know,

(01:43:20):
the Libertarian Party needs to put be put under the acid,
needs to be eliminated. It needs to be closed down,
shut down, and the keys thrown away. And somebody needs
to start from scratch with good ideas, with a proper philosophy,
with even if it's just political philosophy, with a political philosophy,
and it needs to explicitly exclude the anti liberty, anti

(01:43:45):
freedom anarchists. For that, you need a complete, a new
political party with new completing new leadership and completing new attitude,
completing new perspective. The existing political the existing Libertarian Party
needs to be done away with, done away with completely. Yeah,

(01:44:11):
can't stand the Libertarian Party and the people involved in
it just horrible always has me since it.

Speaker 1 (01:44:17):
Was founded by you know, horrible mamby Weth Blood.

Speaker 3 (01:44:21):
So it's not better than the gop of DNC, it's
worse than the GOPO DNC. There's no political party worse
in America than the Libertarian Party.

Speaker 1 (01:44:36):
Because it gives such a bad name to capitalism.

Speaker 3 (01:44:39):
And anarchy is worse than socialism, and anarchy is certainly
worse than.

Speaker 1 (01:44:45):
The mixed economy.

Speaker 3 (01:44:47):
I'll take the mixed economy over anarchy any day. So
my perspective is no Libertarian Party is really, really, really bad. Yeah,
And the third world ism is do you want America
to be third world? That's what they want ultimately, that's

(01:45:07):
what they want to create.

Speaker 1 (01:45:08):
Ultimately, I'd rather have a mixed economy. I'd rather live
with what we have. All right, guys.

Speaker 3 (01:45:16):
That is it for today, Tuesday, December sixteenth. I will
see you maybe tomorrow suddenly on Thursday and Friday. I
have a great rest of you week by everybody,
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