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Speaker 1 (00:03):
So fundamental principles.
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is the show, all right, everybody walk up here on
book show on this.
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October ninth, October ninth.
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Hope everybody's having a fantastic week getting ready for that
weekend I guess.
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Starts tomorrow night.
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All right, Alex, Alex stepped in with a fifty dollars stick.
I thank you, Alex, really really appreciate that. All Right,
today we're going to go over just housekeeping. I've canceled
my trip, so I'm not leaving tomorrow, so there will
be shows.
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There will be a show tomorrow. There will be shows
over the weekends.
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So uh yeah, no no travel, no video, no travel,
no video. There's the video and anyway, we'll be back
on schedule tomorrow with a new show. Let's jump in
with the news, and I guess the big item in
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the news right now is the agreement between Israel and
Hamas for the release of the hostages and the withdrawal
at least a posture withdrawal of Israel from parts of
the Garza strip.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
So this was an agreement that was.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
It's a phase one of the twenty point proposal that
Trump pushed it to a NYAO to accept, and then
rallied all these Arab nations to rally behind. It seems
like a huge amount of pressure was put on the
on the on Ramas by the Katari's, the Egyptians, the
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Tooks to accept these deals. They all have of something
from that they want from Trump, and Trump basically made
this support of this deal a condition for receiving whatever
it is that they want from him. If you want,
we can go over each country and what actually they
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want from from Trump or what Trump has actually promised him. Anyway,
this is a phase one. We don't know and it
hasn't been negotiated anything about the phase two. The phase
one involves the Israeli government approving the plan, which it
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did about half an hour ago. An hour ago, so
the plan has been now approved by the Israeli government.
That means that tomorrow morning, first thing you will see
Israel retreat from current lines.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Two lines that are being agreed upon. It will still.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Maintain control over just over fifty percent of the Gaza Strip,
including strategic locations like the Philadelphia Corridor.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
The Philadelphia Corridor, that is the.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Border with Egypt, will remain under Israeli control, which has
always been something Israel has insisted in negotiations. Ramas has
always turned that down, but other strategic locations will also
stay under Israeli control. Seventy two hours after that retreat
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to those lines by the Israeli forces is complete, the
Ramas will release the twenty live hostages and as many
of the bodies of the twenty eight that they have
and can locate by that point, and they will continue
releasing the bodies after that. At the same time, Israel
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will release two hundred and fifty terrorists murderers from prison. Supposedly,
they will be released but immediately flown out of the country.
That is, they will not go to Gaza or to
the West Bank. They will they will be deported. Learning
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something from Trump, I guess they'll be deported outside of Israel.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
And then another seventeen hundred.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
Gazans that have been detained during this war, so seventeen hundred,
probably mostly Hamas members, that have been in Israeli in
Israeli detention since the beginning of the war. I think
that israel Is insisted that none of the seventeen hundred
people who actually participated in the slaughter of October seventh,
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but I don't know, We don't have final details on that.
We also do not know the final names of the
two hundred and fifty prisoners that Israel will release, whether
they include some of the worst murderers, or whether the
kind of worst of the worst are going to stay
in Israeli prisons. But the next level down will be
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of murderers will be will be released.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
At that point.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Once all of that happens, Israel is guaranteed or the
United States is guaranteed that it will not allow Israel
to reoccupy a territory within Gaza, to re engage in
the war as long as negotiations continue in as long
as Ramas is abiding by the agreement, whatever that agreement
is at that point in negotiations will command.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
On phase two. Phase two is the phase.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
That it will involve disarming commas supposedly and the the
bringing in of an international peace keeping force, the establishment
of a governing body to govern Gaza, and then I'm
sure they're phase three and four that evolved the long
term kind of the long term outcome, the long term
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outcome for Gaza and how it will be ruled and
governed over the long run, So that is the story.
Israelis are ecstatic. They are super happy about this, primarily because, certainly,
for the last year, the number one priority of the
Israeli public certainly has been the release of the hostages,
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and those hostages will be coming home, particularly the twenty
live hostages.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
I know that my.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
Sister's son's best friend has been a hostage since October seventh.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
He was at the music festival.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Indeed, my nephew was supposed to be at the music
festival and at the last minute didn't go.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
And you know, they will be released, and.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
Israeli's my family included a super excited about that fact.
Garzens out into the streets. They're celebrating because the bombing
is going to stop, the the many of them will
be able to go back to their homes if if
the buildings in which their homes still exist, and and
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and they anticipate a rebuilding and.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
A period of relative peace.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Some gardens are pretty afraid because they're worried, and I've
seen a number of reports on this where the gardens
are worried that the Hamas are going to use this
period between now.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
And Phase two or whatever.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
The Phase two is going to be you know, between
now and and when they supposedly are disarmed. Uh. Basically,
Comas is going to clean house, kill its enemies, kill
anybody who stood up to them, anybody who they can
blame or argue that helped these Raelis are going to
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be killed. So a lot of Garzens are afraid of what
comes next. I don't think the gardens really believe Hamas
is going away, but it's also true. It's also true
that many gardens were celebrating in the streets of Gaza
as a Hamas victory. That is, we're celebrating the two
years to October seventh, celebrating and saying, you know, Israel,
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we haven't finished with you. In a sense, this was not,
as far as we can tell, fundamentally changing the nature
of or the orientation of the Palestinian people, particularly in Gaza,
but even most so maybe in the West Bank. The
Palestinian authority is claiming that it is engaged in the
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process of reforming based on Trump's plan, so that they can,
as a reformed entity, whatever the hell that means, be
able to gain control over Gaza at some point in
the future, as.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
As the twe A plan envisions. So so here's the thing.
There was no question that this is not an ideal plan.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
The ideal plan would have been for Israel to occupy
all of Gaza and destroy Ramas and directly be responsible
for the disarming of Haramas, the destruction of the tunnels,
the destruction of the infrastructure, and and and and directly
responsible for security of Gaza moving forward.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
But the reality is.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
That that would have probably meant the death of the
the hostages, and it probably uh and and it and
there's no indication that Israelis were willing to actually do that,
to actually defeat Ramas and actually do as necessary. I mean,
they've had the opportunity to do that for two years now,
and they've chosen not to repeatedly actually occupy Gaza and
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defeat Ramas and and do whatever was necessary.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
Israeli public is not willing to do that.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
The Israeli military has has certainly in the last few months,
has resisted doing it. There's just there's no political or
cultural will to engage in that kind of war, given
that this is not a you know, this is not
a good outcome, and it's not a horrific outcome either.
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The reality is that Israel has bought probably decades of peace.
You know, the last two years, Israel has reshaped the
Middle East. I've talked about this over and over again.
It faces a dramatically, I mean dramatically weakened enemy in
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the north with Isabella, and Isabella has been eviscerated, its
entire leadership, destroyed, its infrastructure, crippled its positions in the
south of Lebanon threat the Israel directly don't exist or
been weakened dramatically, and it hasn't launched a missile into
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Israel in a long long time. And indeed, the Lebanese Army,
at least as flexing muscles, haven't done anything yet pretending
that it will disarm Grisbela and positioning itself as the
opponent of Grisbelah, which is a positive move for Israel.
Syria has changed hands, and at least it appears that
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the Newish Humian Syria does not want trouble with Israel,
wants to leave Israel alone, and has indeed thrown out
the Iranians, thrown at Chrisbelah and eliminated many of Israel's
enemies that were positioning themselves in Syria for potential action
against Israel that border will probably be peaceful for the
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next decade plus. The Shiite militias in Iran have been
quite They've done nothing. They have been completely subdued, giving
an opportunity, hopefully for the Iraqis to.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
I don't know, control over them and maybe move forward
in a healthier direction in Iraq, shrugging.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
Off kind of the violence and the you know, I
think that they're going to state tribal and I don't
want to be overly optimistic, but at least they do
not oppose the threat to these Raelis. Iran, of course,
after twelve day devastating war, has been crippled, weakened, It
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has almost no agents outside of Euron itself and iiron
ballistic missile program has been weakened dramatically, and it's hard
to imagine that anytime soon they can resurrect the nuclear program.
They are now also under global sanctions UN sanctions, the
most via sanctions, the sanctions that were in place before
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the Obama.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
Nuclear deal.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
It's not just America, it's the Europeans that are also
involved in this. Iran is struggling, is suffing significantly, and
we'll get to some good news coming out of Iran
in a minute.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
The Hooties a week.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
They're still there, there's still a pest, but they've been
weakened significantly.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
And of course their supply lines from Iran have been weakened,
and the Iranians can't afford quite a bank roll the
Hoodies like they used to do. And of course Hamas
Hamas is a shell of itself. Even if Ramas survives,
and and and it probably will survive underground, it'll take
it decades years, probably a couple of decades to rebuild,
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and it's not clear if it'll ever be able to rebuild.
It is now under much greater scrutiny, primarily by Israel
and Israeli intelligence. It is unlikely that Israel will go
back to an error in which it lets Haramas do
whatever it once in the Gaza Strip. Much more likely
Israel will take the stance that it has like it
has in Lebanon, where it might stay behind its own borders.
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But any any attempt to build the tunnel, any attempt
to gain new weapons, involves an air strike from the Israelis,
and and a mitigation of that effort. Israel has the
technological military superiority is such that it can suppress Hamas
indefinitely as long as it's stay's committed to doing so,
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and it seems like it probably will be.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
The memory of October seventh will last for a very
long time. Now.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
If Hamas has actually disbanded, I don't think that'll actually happen.
They'll stay in the background, They'll continue to from it dissent.
But if there is an international peace keeping force, if
the tunnels and infrastructure are indeed destroyed, if there is
a if there is a rebuilding effort that brings in
foreign money and foreign interests that have an interest in
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not seeing that money wasted and that money, you know,
sunk into tunnels, there's a real chance that something better
is built in Gaza. And then, in spite of the
fact that Ramas will still be around and probably engage
in terrorists attacks in the future, it will never ever
ever regain the kind of military strength that it has
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on October seventh. Just like Isabella will probably never return
to the days of Nzuela, Iran will probably never regain
the military strength it had, not that it was that great,
but that it had before this war started. All of
that is good news. All of that is worth celebrating.
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So yes, I would have liked to see Ramas completely crushed.
I would have liked to see the Palestinian people, you know,
on their knees begging for peace. I would have liked
to see the Palestinians understand unequivocally that they had been
defeated and that they were surrendering.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
All of that would be.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
Great, and and and and and there would have been
a chance for lasting peace. I think what we have
today is maybe not so much a chance for lasting piece,
but suddenly a chance for Israel to gain a peaceful
existence for a few decades.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
And that's a lot. That is a lot, and that
is quite an achievement.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
Is those whole dominium, and is those whole positioning, and
and and and and and I'd say, uh, the way
in which it fought the war changed completely after the Beepers. Uh.
The Beeper attack on Risba really reoriented Israel became much
more aggressive, much more forward thinking, much more uh, you know,
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taking the initiative now, not being under defensive, not waiting
for the others to strike, but striking take you out
Inzraala immediately afterwards. I mean, that set off a chain
reaction that has brought us to where we are today.
And of course I think I think at the end
of the day, Trump will take credit for this, and
Trump putting a lot of pressure on Arab countries to
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accept this deal, and good for him for doing that.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
He also put pressure on Israel not to.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
Engage more aggressively militarily, bad for him on that.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
But the real credit for.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
This deal, good for whatever good has come from this deal,
is the fact that Israel did two things over the
last few weeks. One, it actually did enter Gaza City.
It surrounded it, it entered it. It was slowly taking
Gaza City. It had evacuated most of the civilian population,
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and it was going in and Haramas was being strangled.
Haramas had nowhere to go. It had a very little
areas that it controlled. Those areas were being squeezed, and
it could see that within a few weeks it risked
being thoroughly defeated. And even though it kept threatening the hostages,
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the idea kept advancing, kept moving forward. So the military
pressure was crucial to whatever's been achieved right now. Second,
and I think crucially was the bombing of Qatar, the
bombing of the Hamas gathering in Katal. Even though the
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mission failed in that it didn't actually kill the Hamas leadership,
which is sad and unfortunate that did not succeed in
doing that. This was a real wake up call for
the Qataris and I think a wake up call for
the entire leadership of the Middle East, the Saudi Is,
the even though they all condemned us, they were scared.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
Suddenly, Yeah, before they could see.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
Israel's capabilities visa the Iran, they could see Israel just
crushing the Uranians. Uanians, who were the supposedly the strongest
military folks in the Middle East, were being just eviscerated
by Israel. Then they had no answer. Iran had no answer.
So that kind of put them on their back leg.
But they were always felt protected by the fact that
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Israel would never attack them. Among other things, they are
allies of the United States, they have a big military
base of the United States.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
And Qatar Israe would never attack Kato. And then it did,
and that was the game changer. That was the game changer.
I think the Kataris came to the conclusion that it
just wasn't worth it.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
They didn't want to see what happened to on happened
to them. They had no intention of having all their investment,
the beautiful infrastructure, their buildings, the economy, everything else.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
They had no intention of putting that.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
At risk when it was clear that the Israeli Air
Force could access them easily and effectively and at any time.
And the reality is, in spite of their attempt to
deny it, the Trumpet administration almost suddenly knew about that
attack in advance and let it happen, which sent another
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message to Katari's even though Trump condemned it afterwards, Americas
was willing to let the Israelis kind of manhandle them
at least, and that scared them, and that's the point
in which Trump could use leverage against them. He gave
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them a security guarantee, which I think is nuts, but
there you go. You gave them a security guarantee. But
the condition for that security guarantee was pressure on Hamas.
And also supposedly changes in El Jazeera.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
Rumors have it.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
I don't have confirmation and haven't seen anything in the
in the reporting to suggest this is true, but rumors
have it that there's major shake up going on in
Al Jazeera.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
El Jazeera is going to be moderated.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
There's also major investigations in the Katari money in the
United States that are being initiated by Congress. I think
the whole Katari operation of influence in the United States
is going to is going to be put on a
lower flame.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
It's going to be reduced. It's just gotten too much press,
too much notoriety.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
Congress is paying attention, and and and and I think
and I think they've got the security guarantee with the
US I think they're going to.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
Go into a little bit more quiet mode.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
I mean, they are the number one spender in the
United States for influence in terms of education, in terms
of our universities, and in terms.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
Of UH political lobbying. So I think that the security
guarantee came with.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
The commitment to reducing that, reducing the influence of al Jazeero,
reducing the radicalness of el Jazeero, and you know, also
UH putting pression ramas. And it turns out and then
of course the elder One. It came to the White House,
was it last week or the week before last? And
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and Trump loves ed of one. He has he liked
him in the first administration.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
He likes him. I mean ed One is a is
a is a what do you call it?
Speaker 2 (22:58):
An authoritarian thug, exactly the kind of person that Trump likes.
And I mean Trump was joking with him about the
fact that, you know, Odwan knows how to really steal
an election, and he wasn't kidding. But Edyone came to
the White House wonting F thirty fives. Everyone wants F
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thirty fives. He realizes that he made a bet a
few years ago on Russian technology. He actually bought s
four hundred defense systems from Russia, and as a consequence
of the United States prohibited him from getting F thirty fives.
He's just seen what Israel did to Syria and to Iran.
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He's just seen what the Ukrainians did to Russia. Nobody
in the world today is exactly excited.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
About what Russian weapons systems.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
Another one realizes he made a big mistake and what
he really needs if he wants to build a a
legit military force in Tokey, what he needs is American
weapons systems. And what he needs in particularly F thirty
five is to be able to match Israel and match
some of the other countries like Saudi Arabia and Egypt
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and other countries in the region.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
In terms of the air forces.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
And I think Trump said you want f thirty fives,
put pressure on the on Hamas and then finally the Egyptians.
The Egyptians are struggling economically. CCI's under a lot of
pressure internally they are, you know, they are also struggling
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because they're at peace, supposedly at peace with Israel, and
yet their population does not like Israel. And there's a
lot of pressure on Egypt intervena on the behalf of
the Palestinians. CCI in the military don't want that. They
don't want to be humiliated by the Israelis. They also
are using American weapons systems. They can't go to war
with Israel without American permission really, so uh, you know,
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CEC basically wants favors from Donald Trump, and again Trump
told him, you want, you want anything, put pressure on Hamas,
and Hamas basically capitulated from its position. Look, this deal
could have been achieved months and months ago. If Hamas
would have accepted it, it's all suddenly would have is
Ael repeatedly has said control the Philadelphia, call it on.
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You released the hostages and everything's good. So What changed
was that Hamas was willing to do it and eager
to do it, and willing to do it fast because
it's allies that all turned their back on them, and
it's the allies all pushed them into doing this. So yeah,
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it's uh, that is kind of the dynamics of what happened.
It appears Trump is gonna fly to Egypt early next week,
I guess, to witness the release of the hostages, also
come to Israel.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
So he'll go visit CECI. He'll he'll live up this.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
Commitment to support CEC, which which is valuable, you know,
given the CECIS has done his.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
Part of the deal. He will he will then go
to Israel.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
I suppose he wants to see the hostages released, and
he will supposedly address uh these reely kinnesseed these really parliaments,
h and uh next week next week at some points.
So yeah, A few things that are worth noting about this.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
Who's really really really unhappy about this deal?
Speaker 2 (26:54):
The River to the Sea crowd, I mean, the pro
Haamas demonstrators all over the world are super depressed. The
number one issues being just taken out from under them.
They never wanted peace, they never wanted to cease fire.
They wanted to be able to keep going after Jews
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in Israel Hamas has capitulated hamasas the heroes. They didn't
want to see that. So all these people claiming they
wanted to cease fire and peace are the ones most
depressed right now, because what they really wanted is result
to be defeated somehow, and they haven't been. Interestingly, too,
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the United Nations has now announced that it has enough
food on its way to Gaza in Gaza for the
entire population of the Gaza.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
Strip for the next three months. So you know, what
do you call it?
Speaker 2 (27:58):
Famine is just evaporated proof, all at once gone away.
There's no hunger, there's no uh, there's no famine in
the gods of the strip.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
It's interesting.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
They were showing guzlans handing out baklav you know, baklava
sweet uh today in celebration of the deal, and uh.
You know, people who are starving under conditions of famine
don't have bucklover. Greta will have to find a new
cause or you know, I don't know, some yeah, she'll
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have to find a new cause somebody else.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
They hate it.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
Now the Palestinians out there, uh chewing for we will.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
Kill Jews, we will kill Jews.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
That is that is their big lesson learned from all
of this that they haven't killed enough Jews and they
want to they want to start over again. Now I'll
just I'll just end with this. It's not clear what
happens now once or not now. But let's say ten
days from now, let's say the hostage is released. Trump
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has been the Middle East, he's gone home, he loses
interest a little bit, and now you have to negotiate
the the the dissolution of Hamas. Haramas doesn't want to
give up its arms, it doesn't want to go away.
It is quite happy controlling the areas of Gaza that
they can control.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
It's quite happy trying to rebuild from there.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
Israel, you know, America is preventing Israel from re entering Gaza.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
So Israel suppose he's not going to re engage in war.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
What is the motivation to cut a phase two deal?
What is the motivation of Ramas to disarm? Well, the
Katawis and the Egyptians and the Tooks continue to put
pressure on.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
Hamas.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
What actually happens once the hostage is are released and
we we just don't know. We just don't know. And
it's not clear if there will be a phase two.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
It's a clear way Israel.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
What Israel will do, It is not clear what Trump
will allow Israel to do. What will happen on the ground. Uh,
it's likely I think that nothing will happen. That is,
Hamas will not disarm, there will be no international peace
comping force, there will know new governance.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
Israel will then just.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
Uh, you're not in a case by case basis, go in,
bomb particular locations, destroy particularly Hamas units, and come back
primarily used. The air force, aid will flow in, Roll
will go back in, the UN will go back in.
But it is weel will treat gas are like a
to each Labin, and it will keep them kind of
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in place.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
It would be.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
Much better if if the negotiations continued, you actually got
a disarming of Hamas and he actually got a rebuilding
and actually got a a a.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
Peace keeping force in there.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
But I just don't see I don't see Ramas's incentive
to keep going.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
Now.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
I'm surprised at how eager Hamas was to give up
the hostages at this point. Maybe there's a lot more
pressure going on in the background that I than I
even than I even thought. Just as an aside, tomorrow,
I think the Norwegians are announcing the Noble Peace Peace Prize.
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I think Trump is going to be probably disappointed. I
can't imagine the Norwegian giving giving it to him, But
who knows. Stranger things have happened, uh, And Trump is
gonna flip out because he won't. He doesn't, he won't
get it. You know, the Norwegians think that they're going
to get increased tariffs and all kinds of other stuff
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happening as off tomorrow, but we will see.
Speaker 1 (32:13):
You know, who knows, you might get an end or
you might get in next year.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
I certainly think, given again, given the history of Nobile
peace prizes, I mean, he's not any less less uh deserving,
if you will, deserves the right wood then than Kissinger
or Obama or Yes or our Fat or any of those.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
Other horrible people. All Right, I think.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
That's all I have to say as of right now
about this deal. I mean, it's a short term, medium term,
very good for Israel.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
Long term hard to tell. You know, it could be bad,
could be good, but you know, it's it's we're definitely
is All.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
At the end of this deal is in a dramatically
better security position than it was October sixth, twenty three.
Speaker 1 (33:09):
Ramas Iran and it's Iran Iranian.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
Backers, you know, in a horrorable position as compared to
October six So, yeah, there is some justice in the world.
And uh I'll add that there is a chance now
that Israel will that if if for the negotiations happened,
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and if Hamas is disarmed and there is progress in
a Gaza, that is Oh will established kind of peace
relations with the Saudis, maybe the Katari's, maybe others, who knows,
but you know, Syrians.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
And there will be some at least again medium.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
Term peace in the Middle East, at least for now,
until until we see the next inflection point.
Speaker 1 (33:58):
All right, I'll.
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All right, it's some good news out of Iran, or
at least what seems like good news out of you on.
And this is backed up by photographs and video coming
out of you on. And that is that Urania's authority
of announced not just being leader, but certain authorities have announced.
So this is in this case is Muhammad Reza Bajo
(34:48):
now the secretary General of the Front of Followers of
the Line of the mom and the leader and a
member of the Iranian.
Speaker 1 (34:58):
Expediency discern Council. You make sense of that.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
I have no idea anyway, some senior official in Yon
now have now announced and this is true.
Speaker 1 (35:10):
The president of you want announced this about a.
Speaker 2 (35:12):
Week ago, that the current general position of the system,
the Uranian system, is that the law mandating the wearing
of the hijab is no longer mandatory. And if you
notice this decision is being used to violate regulations in
post fines, that is, if anybody is trying to force
waymen to wear.
Speaker 1 (35:30):
The hijob, you should call it in the President of.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
Yon, Musud Pezeshkian, in an interview with NBC News earlier,
says people have a right to choose. Wow, that's pretty radical.
I mean even American conservatives don't believe that. He said
that in response to a question about the hijab. And indeed,
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pictures out of Tehran are showing more and more women
just walking around uncovered or with very minimal covering of hair.
Women in pants and in in uh dress, in brousers,
in dress that you know that are basically basically just
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a few weeks ago would have been considered horrific and
could be grounds for arresting these women.
Speaker 1 (36:31):
So there is a real change, it seems now.
Speaker 2 (36:34):
Maybe some of you have contact in Iran will correct me,
but it really seems like a change now. It's not
a change in the law, and the Supreme Leader is
not ruled on this, so it is very much possible
this could be reversed on a dime. But I would
say this is another consequence of the Twelve day war
(36:55):
with Israel. It's also humiliated this regime, so put them
on their knees, so viscerated their confidence in their military
that the last thing they want right now is an
internal conflict about the h job. And again, this is
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what happens when the good, when the West stands up
when it confronts evil, even if it doesn't go all
the way is should have as Trump should have allowed
them to do, even if there was no regime changes
in Iran. The very fact that somebody stood up to
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these bastards, the very fact that they were defeated, the
very fact that they were humiliated, has a positive resonance,
a positive resonance and as positive outcomes, and I think
this is a job is part of that. Now. It's
also a consequence of of all the protests and and
(38:02):
the wariness of the regime in fighting its own people,
particularly given the humiliating defeat by the Israelis. So another positive,
small but positive change in the Middle East.
Speaker 1 (38:15):
Now.
Speaker 2 (38:16):
I hope this change gets institutionalized, made permanent by a
supreme leader ruling or ideally supreme leader would drop dead,
that is the ideal scenario and and not be replaced
by another supreme leader. And Yuan morphs slowly into a
(38:40):
more secular western country with with real elections, not fake
ones like it's had to date. So here's to hoping.
Here's to hoping he's hoping that this is indeed, this
is indeed what happens, all right. Uh, yeah, this is
(39:05):
kind of a funny story. I guess funny. I don't
know funny story would, but maybe it's a funny story.
I think I've talked on this channel before about Hassan Pika.
I mean, let's be clear, Hassan pikap he is one
of the worst scumbags.
Speaker 1 (39:21):
In in the United States.
Speaker 2 (39:23):
I mean, this is a a man who is a
big advocate of socialism.
Speaker 1 (39:29):
Uh. He is an inspiration to Mom Donnie. He is.
Speaker 2 (39:33):
He's about a most nihilistic person I've seen speak anywhere.
He is advocating for the killing of capitalists in the streets.
He has called for bloodshed towards uh, you know, CEOs
and and and capitalists and financiers.
Speaker 1 (39:51):
He is a hater of Israel. Uh.
Speaker 2 (39:54):
A man who is who has celebrated October seventh, you know,
refuse to condemn what happened on October seventh, said he
didn't really care if rape and murder happened on that day.
You know, he is one of the one of the
worst anti ISRAELI, uh, you know, voices out there in
(40:20):
the world that celebrates Islamic terrorism and and believes in
treating anybody who is pro Israel as if they were
neo Nazi. He has literally said, it doesn't matter if
rapes happened on October seventh, it doesn't change the dynamic
for me, he said, you know, you know Israel's comedy, genocide, famine,
(40:46):
the whole story. He is the worst of the worst,
the worst of the worst. And he has a massive following.
He's like on twitch or whatever, a massive following. I mean,
this guy has huge amounts of people who follow him.
He has been I think, really instrumental in rallying young
(41:07):
people around the Palestinian cause, you know, he he he
has interviewed people from from what do you call it,
the juties in Yemen, and you know he's he's uh,
he's played Huti propaganda. I mean, this is about as
(41:29):
vicious and ugly and disgusting as human being.
Speaker 1 (41:35):
As you can find.
Speaker 2 (41:37):
And he's been doing this for years, I guess, getting
almost no criticism.
Speaker 1 (41:42):
Nobody kids right in a country. He's got a massive following,
massive following.
Speaker 2 (41:49):
But last week it turned out that while he live streams,
there's a dog in the background, and it turns out
that this dog is kept on the control in the
background not to interfere with ha Son's life streaming by
with an electronic electric color a son zaps him every
(42:12):
time he gets up, or he gets thro roudy, or
he gets the point where he might interfere. And this
was discovered by viewers of us on Piker's show, and
they flipped out. This guy's cool to animals. This guy
should be reported, he should be deplatformed. He should be
(42:35):
people should listen to him.
Speaker 1 (42:37):
He's a monster.
Speaker 2 (42:39):
Not for not caring about rape, not for calling for
the murder of people in the streets, not for supporting
a terrorist organization, not for his anti Semitic views, No,
none of that. Because he zaps his dog. Now, I mean,
(43:00):
how what he does his dog, But in the big
scheme of things, it really is the least of his sins.
This guy is a monster that deserves that nobody watch him. Ever,
not because he SAPs his dogs. Because his ideas are evil,
and he for advocating those ideas, for holding those ideas,
(43:22):
for being spoken to these ideas is evil.
Speaker 1 (43:25):
Hassan Pika is an.
Speaker 2 (43:26):
Evil human being, and the fact that he treats animals
poorly or badly is just part of the cause.
Speaker 1 (43:36):
That is not suppose he shouldn't surprise.
Speaker 2 (43:37):
Anybody given his opinions of human beings and what he
would like to inflict on them. Uh So, I don't
know that the dog thing is going to become a
big deal.
Speaker 1 (43:51):
But I hope it does. But isn't it Isn't it
interesting that.
Speaker 2 (43:57):
This is what people care about. This is what gets
I'm excited. I mean, the world is a really shitty place.
I mean, people really horrible. The very existence of Hassan
Pika's in the world, who have huge influence, huge followings,
is one of the most depressing features.
Speaker 1 (44:15):
Of the modern world.
Speaker 2 (44:20):
By the way, as he was zapping the dog, he
was yelling into his microphone how.
Speaker 1 (44:24):
Much he hates America. He could leave.
Speaker 2 (44:28):
I think he's got Turkish he's got a Turkish past.
But he could go to Turkey. He could go spew
is disgusting hate and vitriol and evil somewhere else.
Speaker 1 (44:41):
That would be good. God it we're going. Oh, yes,
we're going. We're going. We're going from that to hmm,
I don't know what happened something something.
Speaker 2 (45:00):
We're not organized here, all right, I need to do this.
Speaker 1 (45:05):
H all right, Let's go and talk a little bit.
Give you an update on tariffs.
Speaker 2 (45:14):
We haven't talked about tais in a while, you know,
to have some of my my one of my favorite
topics to talk about. Uh and uh and son me
one of the one of the all right, there we go.
All right, so let's find the tarff story. I mean
(45:37):
a few a few, a few updates on taraffs. First,
I want you to know, I I know a lot
of you have been very concerned about the the fact
that uh, you know, what do you call it, cabinets,
cabinets and sofa and and and and things like that
(46:01):
and not being built in the United States. And I
know a lot of you are concerned because this is
a clearly a national security threat. This is a clearly
a national security risk. The fact that the United States
does not make its own cabinetory. You know, you want
to buy a kitchen, usually you're inputting the cabinetry.
Speaker 1 (46:16):
And sofas.
Speaker 2 (46:17):
We don't make sofas sofas. China and Italy and places
like that make sofas. No sofas, And this is. This
is again a dramatic, significant military national security issue. Anyway,
don't worry because Trump is on it. As of next week,
the US is imposing twenty five percent tariffs on cabinets
(46:38):
and sofas. So while no new cabinets and sofas will
be built in the United States, the cabinets and sofas
you do buy will now carry a twenty five percent tariff.
And insanely, Trump is using a national security provision in
order to impose these tariffs.
Speaker 1 (46:56):
So these areas not.
Speaker 2 (46:57):
Being imposed under the IEE p A or whatever the
emergency economic thing which stream called might overturn, this is
under the national security thing. Were suppose he has the
authority t imposed these tariffs.
Speaker 1 (47:11):
So don't worry, be happy. You will be paying.
Speaker 2 (47:15):
Much more for cabinets and sofas starting next week. But
this is all for your own good and this will
make America safe and America stronger, and you know, all
the national security stuff, don't worry about it. I'm sure
there's a lot of ray oath materials in these cabinets. Yeah, so,
(47:37):
you know, I just want to make sure that you
were aware of that, you know, A Trump announced a
tweeted today, I think it was yesterday ten nine.
Speaker 1 (47:50):
Tariff's are only good, he says.
Speaker 2 (47:52):
If you want your country to be rich, influential, and powerful,
if you want your country to be a third world country,
you should vote against tariffs, which is fascinating given a
list of all the countries with high tariffs. So you know, basically,
if you look at the countries with tariffs that are high,
(48:13):
you're talking about countries like Cambodia, Brazilian, Zania, cut the Ivory, Senegal, Togo, Guinea, Mauritius, Grenada, Ghana, Burindi, Uganda, Liberia, Siri, Leon, Nepal, Bangladesh,
the Gambia, India, Kabo, Verde, Kenya, Chad, Gabon, Cameron, Congo.
Speaker 1 (48:33):
And so on. You know.
Speaker 2 (48:35):
And in other words, if you look at the actual
empirical evidence, you can see that the United States at
fifteen percent, is now somewhere near Kenyan.
Speaker 1 (48:47):
Chad in terms of the level of tariffs. In other words,
there seems to be a their.
Speaker 2 (48:51):
Correlation between how hygyotaras are and how much how third
world you are, how poor you are. So if you
want to be rich, influential, and powerful, at least according
to that data, low tariff seems to be their strategy
in spite of what Donald Trump says. But here's the thing,
(49:13):
reality doesn't matter. All that matters is what Trump says.
Trump says they're good, and therefore they are good. There
is no logic check, there's no thinking. There's nothing going
on here. Pure pure Trump makes stuff up.
Speaker 1 (49:35):
Tarifts make you strong, when TAFs actually make you weak. Poor.
Speaker 2 (49:38):
Now, I don't know if this cause of relationships day
it's it's not only causal. It's one of the many
causes that may make these countries poor. And if you
look at if you look at America's trading partners we
now have, I don't know twenty point six percent, fifteen
percent depends on how you measured.
Speaker 1 (49:57):
Hong Kong as zero, Singapore has zero, zero, tells zero.
Speaker 2 (50:02):
Australia one percent, United Kingdom one percent, Vietnam one point one,
Switzerland one point three, Belgium one point three, Germany one
point three, France one point three, Island one point three,
Italy one point three, United States two years ago, A
year ago one point five, Japan one point six, China
China China two point two. Where would you rather be
(50:29):
with these countries? With Kenya and Gabon and Chad. I
guess Trump believes that they're the powerful ones.
Speaker 1 (50:37):
They're the strong ones. Anyway, it's just just for fun.
Speaker 2 (50:43):
Retail prices, you know, and now you can you can
actually now we've got a bunch of data and monthly
data in this retail prices on a bunch of goods
have increased significantly since in position of ten in April,
not just imported goods. Imported goods have gone up a lot,
(51:05):
and they were actually, you know, so if you look
at price trends, they were all trending down, they were
all getting cheaper, and as of April, everything is up,
all imported goods. And what's interesting is domestic goods. I've
always also spiked, not quite as much as imported goods,
but almost as much.
Speaker 1 (51:27):
And the trend for both.
Speaker 2 (51:28):
Domestic and imported goods, which was downward treading, they were
all getting cheaper. In twenty twenty four into twenty twenty five,
that trend is completely reversed and everything, everything is getting
more expensive. This is out of a Harvard Business School
(51:49):
working paper, so where they're their tracking prices. So yeah,
it's every imposition of tariffs.
Speaker 1 (52:00):
Prices go up domestic and imported.
Speaker 2 (52:03):
So it's not like if only by American I won't
be exposed to the price increases.
Speaker 1 (52:08):
No, American goods are going up.
Speaker 2 (52:10):
In price as well because the competition is going up,
So why would they keep their prices low.
Speaker 1 (52:16):
They're facing less competition.
Speaker 2 (52:25):
Today, And Jesus is yesterday Trump was talking about, you know,
the horrible lawsuits that have been filed against the tariffs,
and what a disaster would be if the courts overturned
his tariffs.
Speaker 1 (52:43):
And he would say, you.
Speaker 2 (52:46):
Know, I would say many of the things I've done
could be eradicated if the traff's overturned. And then he
goes on to say the people who suit him, these
are small businesses who sued him, saying he doesn't have
the constitutional authority he'd impose the cheffs. He says, these
enemies of the country.
Speaker 1 (53:02):
There they're pursuing that lawsuit.
Speaker 2 (53:05):
Again, anybody who disagrees with Trump, anybody who challenges Trump,
is an enemy of the United States. Now that is
a precursor to going after them, to persecuting them. And
they're persecuting them, which is all fine and good, because
their enemies of the United States.
Speaker 1 (53:26):
The cheminy, treason. His president is truly unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (53:34):
And then finally, one of the reasons taffs are not
having a bigger impact negative impact on our economy is
because Trump keeps carving out whole sections that are not
going to be tariffs because he knows, like everybody, the
tais caused prices to go up, so when he doesn't
want prices to go up, he eliminates the tariffs on
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certain things.
Speaker 1 (53:56):
So, for example, Trump.
Speaker 2 (53:57):
Is excluding generic drugs from the Big Farmer tariff plan.
Speaker 1 (54:04):
This is a reversus a campaign pledge.
Speaker 2 (54:08):
And is a consequence of internal discussions within the Trump
team about the potential price increases or even drug shortages
as a consequence of tariffs on generics. Remember generics, Americans
actually pay significantly lower prices.
Speaker 1 (54:31):
Than other countries overall. I've told you this in the past.
Speaker 2 (54:35):
Americans pay less for drugs than Europeans and Canadians. We
pay more, a lot more for brand name, but ninety
seven percent of all drugs sold in the United States
are generic, and there we pay a lot less. So
on average we pay a lot less. But nobody wants
(54:56):
to tell you that that would actually say things are
pretty good.
Speaker 1 (54:59):
And we can and have that. We need emergencies. We
need emergencies to convince you the things are really, really,
really bad. We here's an example of something good.
Speaker 2 (55:10):
Refrigerators. You like refrigerators. Refrigerators are good, well, it says out.
The New York Times actually ran a story called the
Incredible Growing Refrigerators. And what it shows is that refrigerators
in the United States.
Speaker 1 (55:32):
Keep growing.
Speaker 2 (55:35):
They keep getting bigger and bigger and bigger. Also consume
more and more and more electricity. Well no, actually less
and less electricities. They keep getting bigger, consuming less electricities. Actually,
refigerous today consume eighty percent less electricity than refigereaders fifty
(56:00):
years ago. So in nineteen ninety, not that long ago.
I remember nineteen ninety capacity, you know, cubic feet capacity
of refrigerators was twenty point forty five cubic feet. In
two thousand and six it was twenty two, up almost
(56:21):
ten percent. By twenty ten, you know again, twenty ten
is twenty to twenty. It really starts accelerating. Twenty fourteen
goes up to twenty four, twenty twenty one, twenty five
point eighty two. In other words, refrigerator capacity on average,
(56:42):
has gone out from nineteen ninety. We were poor in
nineteen ninety, we had big refrigerators in nineteen ninety. Went
from twenty cubic feet in nineteen ninety to twenty six
cubic feet in nineteen twenty twenty one, thirty one years.
Speaker 1 (56:58):
Now.
Speaker 2 (57:00):
Think about the fact that nineteen twenty eight, when the
first consumer refrigerators came out, they were they had seven
cubic fees of space.
Speaker 1 (57:12):
Seven.
Speaker 2 (57:14):
I mean, that's the little refrigerator you have beer in
your TVU to watch the Super Bowl, right Your real
refrigerator as twenty six cubic feed and consumes eighty percent
less electricity than that ninety ninety refrigerator.
Speaker 1 (57:37):
Some refrigerators have thirty to thirty you know, much more
than this inter as a cubic feed. And they're massive.
Speaker 2 (57:48):
There's seventy inches tall and they're thirty six inches wide.
Speaker 1 (57:52):
And so.
Speaker 2 (57:57):
You know, all those all those measures of standard living,
quality of life, da da da, what poora things suck?
Speaker 1 (58:04):
Everything's bad.
Speaker 2 (58:05):
It was you know, everybody wants to be live in
the fifties and life was great then you could live,
you know, and with your little refrigerator and on one
salary and have five kids and three dogs and a
station wagon.
Speaker 1 (58:19):
Yeah, but nobody's willing to give up that refrigerator.
Speaker 2 (58:25):
So, by the way, Europeans, I don't know if there
are any today on the show right now because it's
late in Europe right now, But Europeans have notch smaller refrigerators.
It's another way in which American much richer than Europeans.
America stand up living, quality of life is much higher.
And by the way, these refrigerators are mostly not made
(58:45):
in the United States, so and certainly parts of them
are not made in the United States. These massive refrigerators
that consume very little electricity are products of globalization. Remember globalization,
that thing you hate. One other piece of good news.
I know it's terrible, you don't like this. There one
(59:09):
more millionaires in America. I know being a million is
not what it used to be, but you know, the
more million is eighteen percent of households eighteen almost twenty
percent of households as of twenty twenty.
Speaker 1 (59:24):
Three, which meant twenty four million.
Speaker 2 (59:28):
Households in the United States had a net worth of
at least a million dollars and given the perments of
the stock market in twenty twenty four and twenty twenty five,
that number has to be. My guess is it's above
twenty percent. Twenty percent of Americans today a million is
(59:51):
so yeah, life doesn't quite suck as ch much as
people would like you to pretend it does. And you know,
sometimes it sounds like I'm telling you it does, because
you know things are so negative and so bad.
Speaker 1 (01:00:10):
All right, we're gonna switch gears a little bit.
Speaker 2 (01:00:13):
I want to I want to talk about China, and
this is gonna be I'm gonna say some positive things
about China and.
Speaker 1 (01:00:21):
Take it for what it is in this sense, and
it's a negative. It's a positive aout China and a
negative about the US.
Speaker 2 (01:00:30):
We'll say there was a story in the Free Pass
and Barry Wise's Free Press a title China builds America blocks.
China builds America blocks. And I've seen a number of
videos in the last few days that we're really striking.
Speaker 1 (01:00:51):
I'm going to show you some of them.
Speaker 2 (01:00:53):
But first I want to remind you that about eighteen
months ago, eighteen months ago, the bridge in Bolt remember,
ship hit the bridge and the bridge collapsed really horrible.
I think a couple of people a few people lost
their lives, really horrible incident, and the bridge collapsed, and
(01:01:13):
it's eighteen months and it's still nowhere near to being built.
It's just not even close. It's there's a gap, that
whole section of highway has been shut.
Speaker 1 (01:01:26):
There's just nothing. And I want you to.
Speaker 2 (01:01:34):
Contrast that fact, that idea, that reality. They did that
in eighteen months, we couldn't build a bridge. We can
fix a bridge. To what is going on, what is
going on in China over the last twenty years, and
just the kind of building boom that they've experienced, I
(01:01:56):
mean trying to build its first expressway in nineteen ninety.
By twenty eleven, they had a bigger interstate highway network
than the United States. By twenty twenty, it has built
a second batch of expressways that again total of the
length of the United States system, so they have.
Speaker 1 (01:02:17):
Double what the US has.
Speaker 2 (01:02:22):
The first expanse of highways took eighteen years to build,
the second nine years. They built the entire US highway
system in nine years. From two thousand and three to
twenty thirteen, Shanghai added as much subway track as the
(01:02:43):
entire system in New York City. Now they're building an
extension in New York City, what a long third avenue
or something like that, which is taking decades In Shanghai
ten years. They built the entire New York system in
ten years. In twenty twenty five, fifty one Chinese cities
(01:03:06):
had subway lines, eleven of which were longer than New York's.
Speaker 1 (01:03:14):
China has a longer high speed rail.
Speaker 2 (01:03:17):
Network than the rest of the world combined put together.
I'm not even talking about the fact that the United
States has no high speed rail at all, and that
the one project that it has building high speed rail
from nowhere to nowhere in California is nowhere. I mean,
(01:03:41):
the high speed rail in China is amazing. China has
amazing bridges, it has amazing architecture, it has amazing buildings.
It's truly stunning. China builds nuclear power plants. The US
has just one Ukli power react on the construction today.
Speaker 1 (01:04:04):
China has thirty one under construction.
Speaker 2 (01:04:08):
The only US nuclear plant built in the twenty first
century took fifteen years to build the thirty billion dollars.
In August twenty twenty four, China's Nuclear Authority a proof
construction of eleven new reactors, all eleven total will cost
about thirty billion what it costs one. China has built
(01:04:33):
massive quantities of housing, massive quantities of housing. The United
States we can't build houses, we can't build condos. We
can't build I mean.
Speaker 1 (01:04:48):
The bridges, the infrastructure.
Speaker 2 (01:04:53):
I mean, so the highest bridges, the sallest bridges, the
most beautiful and modern and biggest airports in the world,
all in China. I mean, when I was in China,
it's beIN a Washington Sabina by far the most beautiful airports, stunning, stunning,
stunning airports or Chinese airports. Now, let me show you
(01:05:16):
a couple of videos. These are means so killing. I'm
showed by Chinese bots to show how amazing China is.
You know, look at this.
Speaker 1 (01:05:24):
This is let's see.
Speaker 2 (01:05:29):
Let's see if I can get this better position for
you guys to see it.
Speaker 1 (01:05:34):
All right, this is a.
Speaker 2 (01:05:38):
This is the tallest bill tallest bridge in the world.
It cuts a trip they used to take two hours
down to two minutes.
Speaker 1 (01:05:53):
It has as part.
Speaker 2 (01:05:54):
Of this bridge there's a theme park, there's a glass walkway,
there's a restaurant built into the bridge, a high speed
glass elevator, and a waterfall.
Speaker 1 (01:06:05):
You'll see the waterfall in a minute, a waterfall dropping
off on the edge of the bridge.
Speaker 2 (01:06:11):
You can also jump bungee jump off of this bridge
right now. The bridge is above the wang Jung Grand Canyon.
It is twenty and fifty feet above the river and
it spans forty six hundred feet over the river. And
just look at this video. I mean, I mean, this
(01:06:33):
is you can know the music.
Speaker 1 (01:06:38):
Look at that.
Speaker 2 (01:06:39):
I mean, that's gorgeous. There's a restaurant up there. I mean,
there's the waterfall. There's a waterfall coming out of the bridge.
They're just dumping water down in there. I mean, that
is magnificent. It should be in America. And you saw
(01:07:02):
there's a walking path there. There's the restaurant again with
an elevator that comes up there. There's the walking path,
there's the there's the there's the waterfall.
Speaker 1 (01:07:10):
I mean, that's ambition, that's civil engineering. This is this
is amazing and it says something, you know.
Speaker 2 (01:07:25):
I mean, there's a lot of problems in China, and
I talk about them a lot, and they've got a
lot of economic problems and for central planning and social
social scores and all of that, but there's something about
a culture that that's that ambitious. That can be all bad.
It can be all bad when when you're that ambitious.
(01:07:47):
And this is not the kind of ambition I think.
I think, this is not the kind of ambition that
built the pyramids. These are not maasoleums. This is not
buildings to commemorate the dead and to bury kings in them.
These are functional, uh projects that make people's lives better
(01:08:11):
and that ordinary people, all of us, can enjoy their beauty,
their aesthetic quality. That they're stunning, you know, amazing. Now
what's this? This is This is the largest high speed
train station in China, right, the Chongquin East Railway station.
Speaker 1 (01:08:31):
Just just look at this. You're coming down the escalator.
Look at that. Where in America? Where where? Anyway?
Speaker 2 (01:08:44):
So anything like this, nothing even close. I mean it's sad.
I mean the closest thing I know that that is
Singapore Airport is stunning. Airport in Singapore is stunning, Hong
Kong Airport is stunning. But all the rest is China.
Speaker 1 (01:09:02):
And look at the scale of it.
Speaker 2 (01:09:04):
I mean it's beautiful and ambitious and grand scale and
and beautiful architecture on modern it's not trying to do
their Chin dynasty like you know, it's not like Donald
Trump architectural requirements of all federal buildings have to have
Greek columns and Roman whatever facades. This is this is modern, beautiful,
(01:09:27):
amazing architecture. This is what America should be aspiring to.
And it's China. Oh here's one other one. Hopefully you
can see you'll be able to see this. This is
a project to reclaim the desert. This is reclaiming the desert,
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turning it into farmland.
Speaker 1 (01:09:54):
Look at that. Those are dunes. That's not Ai.
Speaker 2 (01:09:57):
Those are real photos.
Speaker 1 (01:10:00):
The what do you call it that?
Speaker 2 (01:10:01):
I forget the name of the desert in Vortis Mongolia.
Speaker 1 (01:10:09):
But yeah, this is this is what we used to do.
Speaker 2 (01:10:12):
We claim desert, rice swamps, build, build, build baby. Instead,
can't build anything in this country. And when we do
build something, it has to it has to be you know,
by architectural standards of five hundred BC.
Speaker 1 (01:10:33):
The Gobi Desert, that that was at the Gobi Desert.
Speaker 2 (01:10:44):
Now granted, a lot of the stuff that's been built
in China over the last particularly over the last fifteen years,
has been drilled with massive amounts of debt that they
now cannot pay off. A lot of it has been
built while people unbelievably poor and starving, and yet they're
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these big, massive civil engineering programs instead of actually liberty
in the economy and allowing for private entrepreneurs and the
capital to flow into private entrepreneurs who would actually build
stuff that has sustained economic economic success over time and would.
Speaker 1 (01:11:22):
Raise people, help raise people out of poverty.
Speaker 2 (01:11:25):
I mean, there are a lot of problems, and there's
a lot of I'm sure they're bridges that are too
beautiful for their own good that were built in places
where nobody's going to use them, like bridges to no
way type things. But I'm just trying to give you
a sense of what we've lost, what the environmentalists and
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the conservatives and the conservationists or whatever you want to
call them, have destroyed in this country, the ambition, the grandeur,
I mean, civil engineering projects a beautiful, amazing things, and
they inspire people, and they reflect a nation's ambitions. They
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reflect the people's ambitions, they reflect where they would like
to go and what they would like to do, and
kind of the kind of world they would like to
live in. And again, we want to live in a
world with no new buildings, no new housing, no new bridges,
no tunnels.
Speaker 1 (01:12:25):
God forbid, you build a tunnel.
Speaker 2 (01:12:27):
We want to live in a world with where if
you get to build a building, it's going to look
like ancient Greece or ancient Rome.
Speaker 1 (01:12:36):
It's such a poverty, poverty of vision is what we
have in this country.
Speaker 2 (01:12:44):
And yeah, it's it's just pathetic and sad. Pathetic and
sad and and and this is what I loved about
China when I was there.
Speaker 1 (01:12:55):
I love the ambition, I love the spirit.
Speaker 2 (01:12:58):
I love the gyscrapers, the architecture. They're shooting for the
stars and and and and and just just wanting to
succeed and wanting to succeed big, not settling for for
small and and that used to be America, and that
should be America. And it's, you know, full of flaws
(01:13:24):
when it's Chinese, because it's government run and it's government centered,
and it's status and it's all the problems in China.
And yet there's a spirit there that I think suggests
that there's something in Chinese culture, something in that people.
It's worth watching and hoping that they're somehow liberated. Imagine
(01:13:45):
that country free, liberated. Uh, that would be quite quite amazing.
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All right, reminder to do so a chats. Let's start with.
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Let's start with Hopper Campbell can AI still make us
rich and prosperous despite the rise of authoritarianism throughout the
West for narcissistic reasons. Is the Trumpet administration protecting AI
allowing to grow largely unobstructed. Yeah, it certainly can create
wealth in spite of authoritarianism.
Speaker 1 (01:19:03):
Look at China.
Speaker 2 (01:19:04):
China has become, you know, much wealthier in spite of
the authoritarianism.
Speaker 1 (01:19:10):
It depends how the authoritarianism has.
Speaker 2 (01:19:12):
Applied, where they keep their hands off, what they allow
and what they don't allow.
Speaker 1 (01:19:16):
You can't become as rich as you would otherwise, but
you know, but you still can become quite rich, quite rich.
Speaker 2 (01:19:35):
I think I think Trump anniversation is proticting II, you know,
partially because a lot of its supporters a tech part
the tech guys and and the tech people have have
encouraged them to keep their hands off.
Speaker 1 (01:19:48):
Of AI and and UH and and to leave the
industry alone. And I think that has worked so far.
Speaker 2 (01:19:57):
It's also the case that Trump has found different ways
for his family to make money off of crypto and
AI and all kinds of initiatives like that, and I
think they would the hands off is part of making
that possible. But yeah, I think it's purely pragmatic. There's
(01:20:17):
no principle behind it.
Speaker 1 (01:20:21):
Clark.
Speaker 2 (01:20:22):
When I studied the Holocaust in school, I remember thinking,
how did Hitler get tens of tens of millions of
Germans to follow him with hardly any opposition. Then I realized,
I'm watching my fellow Americans take the same path.
Speaker 1 (01:20:35):
Yeah, I mean, I think that's right.
Speaker 2 (01:20:36):
I think you're watching the kind of tribalism, the kind
of personality worship, the kind of mindlessness, mindlessness that we
saw in Germany in the nineteen thirties. I don't think
it's quite as extreme. I don't think we're hitting in
that direction, But suddenly it's in the same direction.
Speaker 1 (01:20:55):
You're also seeing it on the left.
Speaker 2 (01:20:57):
Think about how many people are going out to the
Poor Master demonstrations and mindlessly just following what their professors
told them. It's the same phenomena on the left, and
you're seeing it on left and right. You're seeing a
mindlessness and a tribalism that is shocking and un American,
(01:21:20):
and you know, really disappointing. But it helps you understand
what happened back then, because it's the same phenomena. Clark says,
to be fair, I think the Holocaust education in Germany
is very good. Germans understand what happened and how it happened,
and are always on the lookout for what they call
(01:21:41):
the early signs, Yeah, of anti Semitism and so on. Yeah,
it's why they're so upset by the rise of the
right wing. But yes, I think the Germans have taken
taken the Holocaust to heart. Whether they fully understand the causes,
I don't think they do. I don't think anybody does.
You'd have to read the Ominous Palelos. You'd have to
(01:22:02):
read Leanna Peacock to truly understand what happened in Germany
and understand the real causes of it.
Speaker 1 (01:22:09):
And I don't think anybody has that.
Speaker 2 (01:22:11):
If they would, you know, the philosophy of the world
would be dramatically different. Because the fact is the philosophically,
as if you read Dominant Powellos you discover philosophically, we
don't hold the dramatically different philosophy than the people held
in the thirties in Germany. This is why it can
(01:22:32):
happen again, because the philosophy is not that different. The
oceanists Hi, you on, I mean a look on the
channel for a while. I remember you said you were
a socialist at some point until you had at La Schrug.
Speaker 1 (01:22:47):
What part in the book changed your mind? Oh, I
don't know.
Speaker 2 (01:22:52):
It was the book, It was the totality of it,
It was everything about it.
Speaker 1 (01:22:57):
But I mean.
Speaker 2 (01:22:59):
What really got to me was the idea of egoism.
What really got to me was the idea of self interest.
That is what really shattered my beliefs and altruism and socialism.
Remember I was sixteen, so but it was the whole book.
I don't think it's any particular passage. It just kept
building and building and building, and it just became clear.
Speaker 1 (01:23:21):
That this is true, and.
Speaker 2 (01:23:24):
What I believed in and what I was holding, and
what the culture believed in and what was prevalent in
the culture was just wrong and it just didn't make
any sense.
Speaker 1 (01:23:32):
And her critique was spot on, But.
Speaker 2 (01:23:35):
It was the positive point, the positive points about life
about self interest that really got to me.
Speaker 1 (01:23:43):
It really got to me, Andrew.
Speaker 2 (01:23:53):
Can the objective's virtual pride be adapted to an altruistic framework?
Don't altruistics also stress moral ambition albit towards entirely different
aims than we do, Or does model ambition in for selfishness,
well it movel ambition implies a morality that is attuned
(01:24:19):
to reality, a morality.
Speaker 1 (01:24:21):
That is achievable to some point.
Speaker 2 (01:24:24):
In having moral ambition if you know in advance, and
the morality is set up to fail.
Speaker 1 (01:24:31):
The morality is set up to make it.
Speaker 2 (01:24:34):
Impossible for you to be perfect, you to be ambitious.
You can try, you can push, but you can't, you
can't succeed. The whole point of altruism is failure. I mean,
the ultimate altruism would require death and and and that's
not what they peach right.
Speaker 1 (01:24:52):
So.
Speaker 2 (01:24:54):
The pride is only possible if mall ambitiousness leads tom
all success, and that success leads to positive things in
the world for you.
Speaker 1 (01:25:12):
To reinforce.
Speaker 2 (01:25:15):
The practicality of the morality. So an impractical morality is
incompatible with pride. It's incompatible with moral ambitiousness because you're
failing constantly.
Speaker 1 (01:25:30):
Wes.
Speaker 2 (01:25:31):
Wes just came in with fifty dollars sticker. Thank you, Wes,
really really appreciate that. As ateric economy, Thank you for
your sticker. I think that catches me up. Thanks again, Wes,
It's good to see you here. That is really helped
make a dance.
Speaker 1 (01:25:46):
You know our target in achieving our target?
Speaker 2 (01:25:50):
All right, Andrew, all the conservatives and hippies are of
unspoiled nature. I'll take that high speed rail station me too.
Don't you think it says something about a sense of
life being anti building. Ran once describe New York City
as like a garden.
Speaker 1 (01:26:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:26:07):
Absolutely, I mean it's a sense of life, of smallness,
of meekness of.
Speaker 1 (01:26:15):
I don't belong in this world. I just need to
fit in with nature.
Speaker 2 (01:26:19):
You know. I don't want to command nature. I just
want to fit in. I don't want to spoil it.
I don't want to touch it. That is such a meekness, smallness,
smallness of status to smallness of mind, a small mentality,
and unambitious.
Speaker 1 (01:26:40):
Sense of life.
Speaker 2 (01:26:42):
A sense of life I think much more focused on fear,
fear of nature, fear of reality, fear of the world,
than on conquest, conquest of nature, which is what you know,
people starting from the age of Discovery on into the
(01:27:03):
twentieth century, I think felt.
Speaker 1 (01:27:05):
The people who really built the world. But not you
have a j algorithm.
Speaker 2 (01:27:13):
How is a secret service agent taking a round for
the president not an altruistic job. Well, it's not an
altruistic job because you recognize, first of all, you have
to enjoy the profession itself, what's involved in it, the
physicality of it, the intelligence of it, the challenge of it.
(01:27:37):
But then you realize that your job is necessary the
preservation of liberty. It's no different than being a soldier.
It's no different than fighting for freedom. Part of that
is protecting the person that is in charge and preserving
that freedom, and so helping protect him, doing whatever's necessary
(01:27:59):
to part him, because by protecting him, you're protecting your
own life, you're protecting your own family, You're protecting your values,
You're protecting.
Speaker 1 (01:28:06):
Freedom, which is a value.
Speaker 2 (01:28:09):
So it's not altruistic if you understand the abstract values
that you're fighting for. Liam says, it's Kint defeated the
Enlightenment in the United States. Well, I don't know if
he's defeated it, but it's certainly on the ropes. But
the battle continues. I don't think it's over. I mean,
(01:28:30):
look at the progress in AI and look at the
excitement about technology. That's still the Enlightenment, but it's getting desperate.
It's getting desperate. Clock once the intelligentsia. Make enough people mindless,
they'll huddle together and follow anyone with a strong enough personality.
Speaker 1 (01:28:53):
Attila and the Witch Doctor knew what they were doing. Yep, yeah,
and we're getting there.
Speaker 2 (01:28:58):
I mean, I think I think a significant number of
our population now is mindless and followers and unthinking.
Speaker 1 (01:29:05):
And this is the challenge we face. This is the challenge.
How do you how do you snap them out of it?
How do you snap them out of it? Docianist Jan
I think you should.
Speaker 2 (01:29:20):
You should have to try to go on stitch An
Adams show and talk about tariffs. One of the hosts, Adam,
seemed somewhat supportive of them. Look, I think the best
way to get me in shows like that is for
you guys to ask the hosts, say invite me me.
Approaching them usually does not work, but when their audience
(01:29:42):
members talk to them about it, that's when they respond.
So I encourage you to write to them or post
a super chatow whatever it is that they do, and
encourage them to invite me on the show. Andrew idea
for spinoff for the Rules of Life. It could tea
of Christian virtues in practice, how not to live rules
(01:30:04):
for the lifeless, maybe too negative, but I picture you
contrasting it with the positive. Yeah, I mean I've done
shows like that. I've done the Seven Deadly Sins. I've
done a couple of two or three shows about Christian
vice virtues and Christian vices and what they stand for.
But I'll look at what I've done and what more
(01:30:26):
I could do. Neo, is China's development mostly state led?
And does that provide government prove that government can manage
economies well?
Speaker 1 (01:30:38):
Socialists off in site China as a model.
Speaker 2 (01:30:40):
I mean a lot of this civil engineering projects of
state led, often local governments, not the federal government.
Speaker 1 (01:30:48):
But they haven't done well.
Speaker 2 (01:30:51):
I mean again, they're ambitious, the architectures are amazing, they spend money.
They don't have all the regulations and all the mental controls,
so they can get these things done quickly. But it's
also true that, as I said earlier, it's not clear.
Speaker 1 (01:31:08):
They can pay for it.
Speaker 2 (01:31:09):
They're deeply in debt, the economy is struggling. People in
China are poor, or at least there's a significant number
of them that are still poor. This doesn't help them,
so they are real problems in a government managed the
economy that manifest themselves in China, and of course the
(01:31:30):
socialists are wrong, because China in that sense is a failure.
Speaker 1 (01:31:34):
It's not a success.
Speaker 2 (01:31:36):
It has certain successes, most of them when they leave
the private sector alone.
Speaker 1 (01:31:41):
In the case of these.
Speaker 2 (01:31:45):
Civil engineering projects, is often private sector projects that are
funded by the government, but they're left alone to build.
But their progress in tech and elsewhere is a private
sector success.
Speaker 1 (01:31:57):
It's where the government is backed off though she honist Jan.
Speaker 2 (01:32:03):
If Israel didn't have conscription, would you have joined the
IDF Y or why not?
Speaker 1 (01:32:08):
Well, at the time, I probably would.
Speaker 2 (01:32:09):
Have because I was still not completely free of all
the collectivism and everything else.
Speaker 1 (01:32:14):
Would I today? I mean possibly, certainly.
Speaker 2 (01:32:19):
If I was planning to make a life in Israel,
I would if I was planning to spend a significant
time there. I really believe that if you're going to
live in a country, you should contribute to its defense
if it's being threatened, if war was a real option,
if people want to try to kill me while I
live in Israel, I should contribute to defending myself, defending
(01:32:40):
my values, defending my ability to live there.
Speaker 1 (01:32:43):
Now, if I was committed to leaving quickly, then probably
not but.
Speaker 2 (01:32:48):
If I was going to stay there, if I had
family there, or if I was going to stay a
period doesn't have to be the rest of your life.
With a period, then yes, I think I would serve
in the military because it's an issue of protecting myself,
protecting my values, protecting my ability to live while I'm there,
and protecting my family and the things that.
Speaker 1 (01:33:10):
I care about. String of bell.
Speaker 2 (01:33:13):
Hello you on any thoughts on the secret Handshake statute.
Speaker 1 (01:33:19):
Statue?
Speaker 2 (01:33:20):
What I don't know the secret Handshake statue. How much
impact does satirical art have on the culture? Well, I
don't know the sculpture, but.
Speaker 1 (01:33:31):
Satia in a.
Speaker 2 (01:33:35):
Modern life has a lot of I think a lot
of impact, most of a negative because most satire is
kind of cynical.
Speaker 1 (01:33:44):
And undermining and undercutting of values. And I think almost
all of our.
Speaker 2 (01:33:51):
A lot of our arts today is skeptical and cynical
and in that sense detrimental to real value pursuit. But
you have to send me a photo of what you're
talking about so I can evaluate. Enwick, what's you take
in private equity debt placed on Joan Fabric and put
(01:34:15):
them into bankruptcy. It was quite successful beforehand with loyal customers.
Joanne Fabric. I don't know the particulars of the case,
but look, sometimes companies take on too much debt that
drives them into financial distress. Sometimes a company is successful
and then something changes in the marketplace that makes them unsuccessful.
(01:34:38):
In the fact that they have a lot of debt
accelerates the decline. I don't know enough about this particular
case to say what actually happened, but look, markets are
not are not infallible. Private equity is not infallible. Again,
(01:34:58):
markets are not infallible. Fact that maybe they took them
too much of debt, maybe they did something bad, maybe
they restructured the company in.
Speaker 1 (01:35:06):
A way that was not wealth creating. All of that
is possible. Mistakes happen all the time.
Speaker 2 (01:35:14):
It's not in the nature of private equity. Lah, How
does stay positive when radical islam is seemingly conquering the
West with pot Palestinian rallies every weekend and support for
terrorism going unchecked by weak governments, Well, I mean, the
reality is the Islamists are still weak. The Islamists do
(01:35:35):
not control any significant place where they do control, like
in the Middle East. They're getting weak and out stronger.
The fact is that Israel Is crushed the Iranians and
crushed Risa, Balan, crushed Ramas, and that has to have
an impact on the energy that the Islamists in Europe
have because as they're seeing that their causes all being
(01:35:58):
crushed by a small web Eastern country, their confidence in
their own cause must must dwindle. And the reality is
that many of the countries in the Middle East it
used to be more orients towards Islamism, like Saudi Arabia
and thee And maybe maybe we'll see a.
Speaker 1 (01:36:18):
Transition in Qatar.
Speaker 2 (01:36:21):
Moving away from Islamism and banning the Muslim brotherhoods and
taking money away from them. So it's not all good
news for them. It's actually a lot of bad news.
And the real wai is how weak how Western governments are.
Speaker 1 (01:36:36):
But remember Islamism is unbelievably weak.
Speaker 2 (01:36:40):
Look at what Israel did to them, which means any
Western country can eviscerate them in no time. They're really
an insignificant threat in the big picture of things. They
are a nuisance. They will cause damage, but they're not
gonna win. They can't win. They're way too weak, way
(01:37:00):
too primitive, way too barbaric. They're just not in a
position where they're gonna win.
Speaker 1 (01:37:07):
Cults.
Speaker 2 (01:37:09):
On a related note, I finished Dominus Parallels. I've noticed
a lot of similar themes between now and you are
predicted some of and you predicted some of this years ago.
Speaker 1 (01:37:21):
Yeah, yep, I meanness.
Speaker 2 (01:37:23):
Power is a brilliant book. Everybody should read it. Of course,
the next book to read is Damn the diym I Process.
But he shows philosophically exactly what happened that caused the
collapse in Germany, and how that the trends going back
to the nineteen seventies were already happening in the United States,
(01:37:45):
and what inevitably that will lead to, and what inevitably
that has already led to.
Speaker 1 (01:37:51):
Thanks colts, Michael. The ominus Poalerlos is basically a.
Speaker 2 (01:37:55):
History book written before the historical events actually unfold. Well,
it's half that and half the history book, right, half
explanatory about something that did indeed happen in history.
Speaker 1 (01:38:06):
All right, guys, thank you for all the supports.
Speaker 2 (01:38:10):
I really really appreciate it. I will be back tomorrow.
You know, my voice still has not completely returned. I'll
be back tomorrow. We'll do news, probably around three pm.
Speaker 1 (01:38:26):
Tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (01:38:26):
I'm not traveling, so there'll be shows tomorrow and through
the weekend, and yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:38:33):
I have a great rest of your Thursday and I
will see you, see you all tomorrow. Bye, every buddy.