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A lot of it, fundamental crystals of aldo, last little
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I appreciate that. Thank you. And wow, and we got
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off the bat. And we'll get to this question later
when we do the super chats. But thank you Andrew.
He's setting the tone. So you guys can you guys
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that doesn't mean we don't try to achieve our targets
every day until then as well. It's it's going to
be important. Oh wait, let's what do we want to
start with? Yes, individualism. So we'll be talking a lot

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the last few days, last few years, last decade or
so about collectivism and the writers of collectivism and the
rise of tribalism. And it seemed like, you know, the
last few shows, all we talked about is racism and
anti Semitism and tribalism and collectivism and what as an

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American heritage Americans and it just seems like it just
seems truly overwhelming what is going on out there. And
it really is bad. There's no question it is bad.
And so I want to say I wanted to say
two things. I want to say One, I don't think
all this bad is truly representative of most Americans. I

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think most Americans reject these kind of notions and don't
buy into it. Indeed, at turning point, you wis say,
a significant majority I think it was eighty seven percent
of the audience was of the thirty thousand people there
were pro Israel did not buy into the heritage American stuff,
you know, seem fairly seen when it comes to when

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it comes to these kinds of issues. So it is
not yet the dominant view of Americans. It's not yet
the dominant view of the left, and it's not yet
the dominant view of the right. This kind of complete
and utter tribalism and collectivism that we see from some
of the leaders of the movement, and that also means

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that there's still time to fight it. That is, there
are hearts and minds out there that we still can
get to, that we still can access. So this is
not a time to be shy. This is not a
time to be silent. This is not a time to
be worried about what you say and what you don't say.
This is the time to fight. This is the time
to get the word out there and reject the kind

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of notions that exists out there. And you know, tribalism
is evil, collectivism is evil. Anti Semitism and racism are evil,
and we need to just just be very clear that

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that is the position. And more importantly, we need to
be clear about the positive and the real fight is
about the positive. And the positive is that I am
and I think most of you are. We're advocates for something,
not just against something. We're advocates for individualism. We're advocacy

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for the primacy in morality and in politics of the individual.
And America is still is, but certainly was and its
founding and I think for most of its history, for

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overwhelming the majority of history, America was the land of individualism.
Of individuals, you know the term rugged individual, the individual
goes out there into the world and makes something of themselves.
America was the land of personal responsibility, but not in

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the superficial sense, in the deep sense of responsibility for
creating yourself, making a character, building a character, building a life,
a business, a farm, a family. You know, it was

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about you taking responsibility for the things that you are
going to do in your life and going out there
and doing them. Not expecting the state to come in
and provide you with, you know, assistance and help and
bailouts and subsidies and welfare, and not expecting somebody else

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to be responsible for the education of your kids, not
expecting somebody else to be responsible for your business, for
your livelihood, but also not expecting somebody else to be
responsible for your values. Individualism in personal responsibility is this

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idea that you're responsible for your values. You're responsible for
identifying them, making sure they're rational and consistent with life,
with a pursuit of life, and then you're responsible for
pursuing them and as a consequence, you are the beneficiary
of achieving them. I mean, I don't think people have

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a real sense of what it was like to be
an American in the nineteenth century in many respects. Really free,
free to go out there and make something of yourself,
make something your life, do something with your life, create something,
build something. I was just watching a show, kind of

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a docu drama kind of thing. Wasn't very well made,
but it was super interesting. It was about kind of
the establishment of Hollywood and the movie industry, and it's
just amazing. The movie industry was established by people who
came from nothing, who had a you know, basically saw
an opportunity, had a dream of what it could become.

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And yeah, there was some corruption in the beginning. There
was like a little cattel established that had some protection
by the government, and yet most of these people ignored that,
went on and did that thing, fought it. You know
that I'll leave New York and go and do make
movies in in Cuba for a while and then ultimately

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crossed the country to California in order to escape the
rigidity of the East Coast to make something. And they
were all people who came from nothing, almost all of
them immigrants, who came to the country with nothing, and
who built an industry like no other. There's no other.

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There's nothing else like Hollywood in the world. I mean,
when when the first studios were the first guys arrived
in Hollywood to make movies, there was nothing there. Orange Groves,
Lemon Groves, and a tiny little town. There was nothing there.
And within within just a few decades, you know, the

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place was thriving and booming, and you know, thousands of
people and construction every massive studios. And so this country
is a country of individualists. It was built by those people.
It was built by by immigrants and natives who who

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you know, went out there and and and and fought,
not fought physically, fought to make a life. And and
you know, they invented, they built, you know, think about Rockefeller,
think about Carnegie. These were giants who came from nothing

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and who built massive businesses to change the world. And
think of that at a much smaller scale, But the
same principle is how most Americans lived because there was
no option. Nobody was bailing them out. That many got
onto onto buggies and husses and went out into the

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wilderness into the Midwest and then for the West and
Oarigan Trail, and many died on the way. And they
had to fight nature, and they had to fight hostile forces.
And they settled, and when they settled, it often wouldn't
be an neighbor within a day's ride. And they built,

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they created, they meet something of themselves. And that doesn't
make their great great great great grandchildren particularly American. It
makes them the people who built it and created it.
They were real Americans. Whether they great, good, good good
grandchildren and real Americans too, completely depends on what they've done,

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whether they've lived up to that individualism. And politically, what
that individualism manifested itself is in a political system that
protected your rights and left you alone. Go out, they do,
don't ask for permission, go do. We will protect your

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property rights. We'll try to protect you out there in
the wilderness. But it's hard because you know there's not
going to be a police force. Police amended, you know,
and if you farm, it is not even gonna be
the cavalry. And if he outposts in the West, we'll
do our best to protect you. But it's go do,
go create, go build. And that is the America. That's America,

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that's still you know, still in the spirit of so
many entrepreneurs today, that's the America of so many immigrants
who come to this country to try to make a
better life for themselves and not looking for handouts, don't
accept handouts, are looking to work and to build and
create and to make something. They're running away from persecution,

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just like all those immigrants in the anything since you
were running away from persecution, just like the Mayflower immigrants
were running away from persecution. I mean, almost all of
the immigrants of this country were, some exceptions, running away
escaping a really bad situation at home and coming here

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to make life better. People talk, oh, the only economic immigrants,
Well that's the immigrants. You want. People who want opportunities,
people who want to build a better life, people who
want to create a better life. So, you know, it's

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stunning how today when in a sense we are living
off of we are benefiting and almostly from the country
that was built on the principle of individualism, on the
idea of individuals striving, and the idea of individual responsibility
for their own lives and their values and the morality

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and their character and all of that that this people
their ancestors. And I was saying, we're better Americans because
they did something which were rejecting. We're better Americans because
we're now tribal collectivists, which is exactly the idea that

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the Americans who built this country and the eighteenth, nineteenth,
and much of the twentieth century, those are the ideas
that they were rejecting. Those are ideas that they were
running away from. Those were the ideas that they were
building a country in opposition to, in contrast to. And
now there is I don't know, the people who the

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great great great great great great grandchildren want to turn
America into a collectivistic European welfare and regulatory state, and
why not establish an arist aristocracy and maybe a king
and then we can be totally European, exactly the kind

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of environment that all those people ran away from that
this country was established in contrast to. So the fight
is for individualism. The fight is that your life is
yours to live as you see fit. The fight is

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that your values are yours, and nobody has the right
to tell you that unworthy. Nobody has the right to
put physical i e. Force causion, use force, incursions to
stop you from pursuing those values. The fight is for

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our individual lives, not as Americans, as human beings and
America being the best representative on planet Earth in history
where individual human beings could manifest themselves, could pursue their values,
could be free. So this country is about freedom. Freedom

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for the individual to pursue his values based on his
reasoning mind, without fear of pursion, without without force being

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imposed on him. And that's all fighting for. That's what
we need to fight for. Can't hand this country over
to the to the triballistic monsters who are out there
from eight Events on down to Nick foyenttis all right?

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That is my little spiel individualism. Uh, it's it's again.
It's about your life is yours to live as you
see fit. But living up to that, living up to that,
not using that as an excuse not to do anything.
Living up to that. And that's you know, if your
meaning in life, if you want to find meaning everybody's

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searching for meaning. Oh, where's meaning? Let me find it
in some other dimension. Let me find it in a
a in a in a racist you know agenda. Let
me find it in a I don't know what, in
my tribe, in my collective, in my genes. Let me

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find the meaning in my religion. No, you want to
find the meaning. Your life is the meaning. Taking your
life seriously is where you will find meaning. You'll find
meaning in living the best goddamn life you can live.
That's the search for meaning. It's right there. It's you,

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it's your life. Only have one of them, one life.
Every second that goes by you'll never get again. No
rewind function on life, no living it a second time.
So be ambitious and go live it. All right, that's

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my motivational spiel for the day. The journey is the award,
and the award is the reward. It's all of award.
The journey is the award, and the values that you
find that you seek and attain of the reward all
over all. Right? Uh, and now politics, as the racers says,

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welcome to hell. Well, let's start with the story that
is kind of really shaking up conservative The conservative movement today,
you know quite a bit. It's all over Twitter, it's
all over the news. We've been talking about Heritage for
a while now since Kevin Roberts, the executive director, the

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CEO of Heritage Foundation, kind of after Tucker Carlson interview,
Nick Foents came out basically h swore allegiance to Tucker Colson,
refused to condemn the interview, refused to say anything negative
about tucka and basically said that he is completely, unequivocally

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aligned with Tucker Carlson, always will be. He's a friend
after all. I mean. He later on tried to apologize
and didn't succeed. Since then, three board members trustee members
of the Heritage Foundation have left the Anti Semitism Institute
within the within the Heritage Foundation left Heritage disassociated Heritage.

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We've also seen some you know, some significant employees staff
like Christa Mirth and Stephen Moore leave and a number
of other people. But today we saw this morning basically
three entire units of Heritage. Three entire units. Heritage is

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massive and it has I don't know two three hundred employees,
and it has a u to have a very large budget. Well,
three entire units, the Mes Center for Legal and Judicial Studies.
We'll get back to Me's in a minute. The Thomas A.
Row Institute for Economic Policy Studies and the Center for

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Data Analysis are all leaving as units with leadership and employees.
They're all leaving for another think tank, I think tych
called American Freedom, which is a policy nonprofit founded by
Mike Pennce and it's run, funnily enough by a former

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Heritage chief of staff. The leaders of the three centers
are leaving, with them all going to American This American
Freedom Institute plus, as I said, staff is more than
a dozen staffers. And you know, shockingly, shockingly at Mes

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at Mees, who was Ronald Reagan's you know, attorney general.
I think at Me he's a long time conservative. I'm
not a fan of at Mes, I mean he's a
religious conservative. But at Me basically came out and said
that he that me sent us in his name, that

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he is supporting this move. Now it turns out this
is being in the works for a few weeks. The uh,
you know, the this is called an Advancing Freedom found
The Advancing American Freedom Institute approved the plan to take
on all this Heritage staff. But to do that, they

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had to raise fifteen million dollars there already raised I
read some way thirteen within two weeks. So there's a
real appetite among donors who I think are leaving Heritage
A moving for example here, and the confidence they can

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raise extra extra two or three that they need. The
advancing American freedom ensued by doing this, A is doubled
its size and it's now looking for you know, bigger
downtown DC office space. So you know, this is this

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is really big. It's really big in terms of in
terms of I think the shocked Heritage. Heritage was the
conservative think tank founded you know, founded in the nineteen seventies,
and and it became the institution, the thing tank, the

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establisher think tank. It took a turn during the first
Trump administration and particularly with Kevin Roberts joining to become
rather than so for example, even exactly, it used to
be that there were quite a few free marketers at CATO,
at at Cato, at Heritage, I mean real free marketers.

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People believe in it, in in in a in a
in a free market, many of them. When when Heritage
took this turn towards populism, took a turn towards trump Ism,
many of them left Heritage and went to places like Cato.

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But Heritage is a is an institution has been in
Washington forever. It's it's you know, uh, it's it's been
a It's been behind so much legislation, so many programs
that were the Republicans have proposed really passed. Look, it's
not being a good institution. I've never been a fan

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of Heritage, in spite of the fact that it had
some free marketers, it had a lot of statists. It
was always religiously conservative. But all of that is now collapsing.
I mean, Heritage is collapsing, and it's collapsing because it's

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taken this populist turn. It might be true this kind
of anti Semitic groupa racist, collectivist, tribalist mentality. Maybe it's
true that it's dominant among young Republicans, But young Republicans

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are not the intellectuals that manned these institutions. Young Republicans
are not who has the money that funds these institutions.
Boomers have the money. It's what's behind boomers, as millennials
or whatever, you know, the generation behind the boomers are

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the intellectuals. Boomers and them, and they're not putting up
with it. They are leaving in droves. Now this new institute,
the Advancing American Freedom Institute, Mike Pence's institute. I'm not
a fan of Mike Pence. I'm not a fan of

(25:31):
Mike Pence, but because he's a religious conservative. But Mike
Pence stood up to Donald Trump. He stood by him
during a horrific first term. He stood by him. You know,

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even when Trump did hopable things. Betty drew the line
at Trump asking him to do something to win against
the Constitution. And for that you should get credit. And
this new foundation, this new institute, it's not so new,
he founded it a few years ago. But this institution

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is oriented towards more free markets, less popularism. It's oriented
towards more constitutional studies. You know, one of the projects
that was killed at Heritage, for example, was there was
a proposal within the kind of the economics section of
Heritage to do a study on how terrorists were affecting

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every state, businesses in every state, and the leadership killed
it because it would make Trump look bad. So, you know,
these are not this is not These are not people
who are you know, they're not free marketers. They're not secularists. No,

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they're religious and they and they the more market than Trump.
It's just not a big deal. But they represent the
old line conservatives, conservatives we hated and now miss. And
look the people who left heritage are not never Trumpets.

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And it isn't really about Trump. They all support Trump.
It's really about is the conservative movement willing to stand
for something or is it a cesspool, you know, just
filled with bigots and conspiracists and cuta first people. This

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is one a tweet by Elias Shapiro. He needs are
not It's not a new free market bastion that Mike
Pence is established. It's a conservative in the old sense
of the term, not in the JD. Van's sense of
the term, not in the integralist sense of the term,
not in the racist, anti Semitic sense of the of

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the of the tomb. But it is showing that, you know, uh,
the conservative movement is going through real changes, real challenges.
I don't know what's going to happen on the other
side of this. I mean Ed Mees wrote today, I'm

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proud to announce Advancing American Freedom as the home of
the home of the New at MESE, the Third Institute
for the Rule of Law AAF has already established itself
as a leader in the conservative movement. Remember this was
at Heritage. MEAs used to be part of Heritage. He personally,
I am confident that the lawyers and staff in the
MEAs Institute will continue to play a leading role in

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advancing the conservative legal movement in terms of their scholarship
and by working with allies to achieve our mutual objectives
educating the general public about important legal issues. Da da
da da da da. I mean, this is the thing
I don't like it. Mes I've never liked that means
these are the kind of religious conservatives we've always despised.

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But things have gotten so bad at Heritage that these
guys can't stand it. Even it's become such accessible that
these can't you guys can't stand it. Now it's going
to be interesting. It's going to be interesting if Kevin
Roberts survives, Uh, you know, can he survive? Will he survive?

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And to what extent is fundraising gonna plummet? Who else
is going to leave? Is anybody left? Is the leadership
in Heritage is gonna flip and uh go back to
kind of original conservative. I'd say principles, but it's it's

(29:57):
hard for me to associate conservatism with principles. So that's
where we are. This is kind of that. You saw
that on the turning point stage. You saw some of
the fighting going on, but a lot of the fighting
is going off stage, and it's not just between I
don't know what Ben Shapiro is. You know, maybe Ben
Shapiro is more aligned with Mike Pence, religious conservative, although

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Ben ship is probably more free market than Mike Pence,
and you know, in Ben Shapiro, it's just like Mike
Pence supports Trump up to a point. Although Mike Pence
did say he would not vote for Trump, he had
an inside look at how anti the constitution Trump actually was. Yeah,

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it's it's gonna be interesting to see how the conservative
movement moves forward from this point, from this point or
or to what extent did his splinter all right, this
is being quote. Today came out with a ruling which
is a real blow to the Trump administration. In a

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sixty three decision, the court ruled against the Trump administration's
deployment of National Guard to Chicago in order to protect
and support operations carried out by ice. The let me
just see the court ruled, and I'm quoting. Before the

(31:31):
president can federalize the god under I guess Section one
two four six, Part three, he likely must have statutory
or constitutional authority to execute the laws with the regular
military and must be unable with those forces to perform

(31:53):
that function. So can't perform the function with existing forces,
must use the military, and for that he needed either
constitutional or statutory authority. At this preliminary stage, the government
has failed to identify a source of authority that would

(32:13):
allow the military to execute the law in Illinois. So
the president has not invoked the statue that provides the
exception of to the posse communicados you know that do
not use the military insights Selad's cities. And he's not
given a reason why he has to use the military

(32:38):
in this case. Now, you know, this is a huge
blow to Trump. Although you did have three conservative justices Alido,
Thomas and Gorsige. I'm really disappointing gorstage which had three,
uh you know, three of the very conservative justice against

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the majority, but a sixty three majority ruled the president
was exceeding his authority. And yeah, I mean I think
it's great news. It means the president can't just deploy
National Guard wave he wants. He can't just federalize it.
He has to justify it. If he's going to justify it,

(33:26):
he's going to have to invoke, you know, legislation, invoke
an emergency. Now, he might do that, but then that
could be questioned constitutionally in terms of whether he was
invoking it legitimately. But he would have to invoke the

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fear of what do you call it, uprising resurrection. He
would have to claim that these immigrants are somehow causing
her in insurrection resurrect I say resurrection. That's pretty funny,
insurrection insurrection. Kavanaugh then he penned his own He penned

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a what do you call it? A concurring opinion, and
then he goes out of the way to pin a
footnote that is not really having to deal with the
case at hand, but just so Ice knows and you know,

(34:40):
this is what he waits. This is the footnote. The
state's opposition to deployment of National Guard appears to stem
in part from the state's underlying objections to activities of
federal immigration officers when they make immigration stops and arrests
in Illinois. The state and the government disagree about whether

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the immigration officers have violated the Constitution in making certain
immigration stops and arrests. And this is the important section.
The basic constitutional rules governing that dispute a longstanding and
clear The Fourth Amendment requires that immigration stops must be

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based on reasonable suspicion of illegal presence. Stops must be brief,
arrests must be based on probable cause, and officers must
not employ excessive force. Moreover, the officers must not make

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interior immigration stops or arrests based on race or ethnicity.
The Constitution prohibits selective enforcement of the law based on
considerations such as race. He's quoting from another case. This
application does not requires to delve into the party's underlying

(36:11):
disputes and to determine whether any particular immigration encounter a
series of encounters Illinois has violated these basic constitutional principles.
That's in his concurrence. But he's basically saying, you have
to have a reasonable suspicion of illegal presence that cannot
be based on race or euthnicity. The stops have to
be brief. The stops we're seeing are not brief, the

(36:35):
arrest must be based on probable cause. Where's the probable
cause in most of the videos I'm seeing of these arrests.
And they must not employ excessive force. Huh. So, I

(36:55):
mean this is just a concurrence. It's a footnote and
a concurrence by Cavin. Yeah, but he's sending a signal,
and I think the signal is and it's going to be,
is that they're going to be lawsuits against ICE for
around all these things around you know, arrests are stopping
based on arrests that are not based on probable cause,

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no reasonable suspicion, the briefness of these stops, and excessive force.
He's basically giving lawyers a menu of items by which
they can challenge Ice. And I think you'll see a
lot of arrests now, both of immigrants illegal immigrants, let's say,
but also people who being arrested by ICE, not arrested

(37:43):
detained by ICE, who are citizens. So it's not the
last time the Supreme Court is going to step in
and discuss these kind of issues. I really, really, really
hope that the surprene Courte rains Ice in it. It's

(38:04):
the only hope we have nobody else is going to
rain ice in. I really hope they rain ice in
and sooner rather than later. But step number one, no
protection from the National Guard unless Trump invokes a statute,
which he might, which he might. We will continue to

(38:27):
follow that story. I did. I do expect, I guess
by the end of the year, so really soon, if
not then early in the early in the year Supreme
Court to rule on the issue of tariffs. Indeed, many
people expected when they heard that the Supreme Court was

(38:49):
issuing an opinion today, many people assumed that it was
the tariff issue. So we're just gonna have to wait
a little longer to find out about the Tariffichoe. I'm
a little worried. I really hope Ghostich doesn't disappoint here.
I mean, he's the he's the one guy I have

(39:10):
some really respect, and you know, I really hope that
he It seems like he and Thomason and Alito are
willing to give the executive branch a huge amount of leeway,
and that surprises me. I really thought that Ghostich was
a separation of powers guy and would really stand up

(39:31):
for the principle of separation of powers. Not seeing it
right now, all right, Seacott, setcut, setcut, I don't know
how it's broenow ce cot h c c O. T
is the prison, the high security prison in Lsalvado, to

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which the United States deported two hundred and fifty two Venezuelans.
What was it in April? This is the conditions of
this of this prison, the way they were treated in
this prison was the subject of a thirteen minute episode

(40:17):
of sixty Minutes, which we talked about yesterday, was killed
by Barry Weiss yesterday. It seems though that on Sunday,
it seems though that Barry Weiss didn't realize that the
episode was going to be airing in Canada anyway. That

(40:41):
is that hook killing it in CBS didn't kill it
for Canada, and it he did air in Canada, and
it was released as a video on I don't know,
lots of platforms all over the place. You can find
it on Twitter, you can find it elsewhere. And everybody's

(41:01):
seen it now, right, And probably more people saw it
now than would have seen it at sixty minutes because
because of all the hoopa who about about the whole issue,
And of course there's a real question here of the
first Amendment and to what extent died the administration require
this to happen. The thirteen minute piece is very damning.

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This prison was a torture prison. The prisoners was tortured,
they were beaten, they were held under sub human conditions.
It turns out a significant number of them of the
two fifty two, over fifty were not illegals, should not
have been deported. Indeed, if you remember, the court had

(41:55):
claimed that in a ninety zero decision that's sending them
to this person had violated due process laws. You know,
some of these people were had no criminal record, significant
number of them had no criminal record none at all.

(42:18):
And again they were sent to the most brutal jail
in Ossalvado because they had tattoos, or because Ice didn't
like them, or you know, they would just I just
wanted to see what they could get away with. I mean,
cool and inhumane and just horrific. And the Trump of

(42:48):
Distation doesn't really care. Now about four months afterwards, after
these people had been there for four months under these brutal,
horrific day and I know they're not heritage Americans, so
a lot of people out there don't care because we
only care about heritage Americans. But these are human beings

(43:11):
who've done nothing, at least most of them had done
nothing to deserve this kind of treatment. After four months,
the Trumpet Amstician did a arrange for to release Venezuela,
to release ten Americans, and these prisoners were sent from
Rosalvado to Venezuela. I don't know exactly how all that worked,

(43:34):
but they were released ultimately. Luckily they're not still there.
But the very fact that America did this, it kind
of it's shameful. It's shameful and really disgusting, and nobody's
gonna pay for it. Nobody's going to suffer for it.

(43:56):
None of the decision makers. ICE has only become more emboldened.
Zer racist says, this is evil shit. Yeah, this is
evil shit, and the people committing the evil shit are
getting away with it. They're literally getting away with it,
and nobody cares. Nobody cares because a bunch of illegal

(44:17):
immigrants or immigrants, so just people who we don't like. Yeah,
they were jailed and tortures because they looked like criminals.
But even if there were criminals, we have due process
in this country. We don't send criminals to be tortured.

(44:41):
We don't send criminals to foreign jails where we know
they'll be torches. Now, other people have been sent to
other illegal immigrants have been sent to countries in Africa
where who knows what happened to them, who knows if
they survived, at countries where civil wars are going on,
countries that because the government US government basically bribe these

(45:03):
countries to take these depotees. It's just unbelievable. Ah, all right,
from the horrifically evil to the comically evil. President Trump

(45:24):
yesterday reasserted that the United States needs Greenland for its
national security and said that he's appointing a special envoy
to lead the charge for taking Greenland. Trump made Louisiana
Governor Jeff Laundry, I don't know, yeah, on Sunday as

(45:49):
a special voted Greenland. Now Denmark says we don't want those.
What are you talking about? Greenland's green Greenland is not
for sale, leave us alone, and the Greenland said, we're
not interested in this. Stay away. Trump has even suggested
that it might be taken. We need Greenland, he says,

(46:13):
for national security, not for minerals. If you take a
look at Greenland, you look up now on the coast.
You have Russian and Chinese ships all over the place.
We need a f national security. We have to have it.

(46:33):
It's just it's just unbelievable. Landry, governor of Louisiana, says,
it's an honor to serve in this volunteer position to
make Greenland a part of the United States. This is
in no way, this in no way affects my position
as governor of the Louisiana. So he doesn't expect this
to be a full time job. I take it now.

(46:56):
It's true. Greenland does have a strategic location. It's it's
you know, it has a real value from a national
defense perspective. But Denmark, which governs Greenland in a sense,
Greenland's kind of an autonomous region of Denmark is a

(47:19):
member of NATO. If as a leader of NATO, the
United States think NATO needs to have a bigger presence
in Greenland or do something about Greenland. Yes, it's can
do it. But Trump just wants land, he wants stuff.

(47:41):
It's and you know, he suggested at some point that
you know, force might be okay in order to in
order to take it over. It's that important. The people
in Greenland are too happy. Denmark now too happy. But

(48:03):
it is what it is. Trump yesterday as well announced
to the world that that the Navy is going to
be building a new class of battleships. Battleship. Do you
guys played battleship when you were kids. That's a fun game.

(48:25):
A new class of battleship which are going to be
a part of a new golden fleet that the Navy
is establishing. This new battleship, it's not really a battleship,
but anyway you called it a battleship, is going to
be named a Trump Class. It's going to be a
whole class of battleships called the Trump Class battleship. It's

(48:51):
going to be beautiful and sexy. Can I have a
It's a battleship with sex appeal. Indeed, Trump has said
that he is going to be involved in the aesthetic design.
I'm not kidding of the battleship because he has a
good eye for aesthetics and he wants to make sure

(49:16):
that the ship is a cool looking ship and it
has to be super powerful. So this battleship, Trump Class
battleships are gonna have nukes on the battleship ready to launch. Now,
the United States has taken lukes off of ships because

(49:40):
it doesn't make any sense. It makes sense to submarines,
but they're not needed in in in ships, and they
just you know, it poses a real danger if the
ships are attacked and blown up. It's it's not a battleship,

(50:02):
it's a it's a destroyer. Now trump bus has said
that he expects the first one to roll off in
two and a half years. I don't think the Navy
could design a screw, never mind building in two and
a half years. They just canceled a bunch of projects

(50:27):
because they couldn't meet deadlines and they couldn't build them.
They last week they announced a commission of a new
class of frigates. This is a you know, this is
going to be a destroyer. And look, it's absolutely true
that the Navy, the Navy ship are getting old. But

(50:53):
it's also true that one has to really think about
what a modern navy needs to look like, how a
modern navy is going to cope with the hypersonic missiles
that China has. They can blow a ship out of
the water fairly easily. The United States has currently no

(51:17):
ship based anti missile technology to take out hypersonics at
the speeds the Chinese, at the speeds that China can
deploy them. So, you know, the United States has a
real strategic problem. It needs a new navy. But the

(51:38):
Navy has shown immense, you know, incompetence in actually building ships,
immense incompetence of getting the deployed. And there is the
strategic question of if you look ten years down the road,
what kind of navy does the United States need? Does
it need big old battleships with nukes on them? Well,

(52:03):
does it need smaller ships, stealthy ships, drone ships? Yeah,
I mean these are kind of deep important. I don't
ad answers. I'm not a strategist in the navy, but
the point is that somebody has to do that thinking.

(52:27):
We've got a Secretary of Navy who has no clue.
We've got a Secretary of War that is not a
strategic thinker. They fired a lot of the generals, so
who knows who's left. Trump is not a strategist. It
really really worries me that at a time where we

(52:49):
really do need to revamp the navy, we really do
need to think strategically about the threat that China poses.
We have a military and navy and a White House
dominated by incompetent fools. I mean, Trump is for years

(53:10):
been complaining about the Navy and its ships. Not that
they're old, not that they're ineffective, not that they don't
match up well with the Chinese, not that strateistically they're
not aligned with how we would fight a modern war.
We're China. Know. He has for years been complaining about

(53:31):
how terrible looking they are. I mean, in his first time,
he called for a return to steam powered catapults to
launch jets for aircraft carriers and complained about the esthetics

(53:53):
of the Navy's destroyers. This is from Willsee Journal article.
He says with I splately need ships. Some of them
have gotten old and tired and obsolete, and we're going
to get the exact up. We're going to get the
exact opposite direction one hundred times, one hundred times than

(54:13):
any battleship ever built. This is a Trump Class. Yeah.
So yeah, as I said, he's going to be involved
in this sesthetic design. There's some pictures that they released.
They do look pretty sleek. For what it's worth, I
don't know how functional they are. They look at of sleek,

(54:39):
But you know what you need today is ships that
are designed to match up with the Chinese threat. That's
what you need. And there's no there's no reason to
believe that this is it, all right. Uh, let's see.

(55:10):
I mean, I think much of American naval doctrine has
to be rethought in the age of drones, in the
age of hypersonic missiles. Unless they have a secret weapon
out there to knock down the Chinese taposonic weapons, the
US Navy is in deep trouble, all right. I wanted
to mention one of the weapons system that the US

(55:33):
Army has uh and a Navy have announced made public
for the first time. They did on December twelfth, but
I haven't had a chance to talk about it. This
is this is a new hypersonic missile that the United States,

(55:53):
a long range hypersonic weapon called Doc Eagle, that is
has I'm just quoting from the press release. The responsiveness,
the maneuverability, and survivability of hypersonic weapons are unmatched by
traditional precision strike weapons. That's absolutely true. And the United

(56:15):
States has fallen behind both Russia and China, but particularly
China in hypersonic weapons, and this is one of the responses.
I assume that in many other in various stages of
development that are going to be responses to the Chinese challenge.
So this is a This is a intermediate range boost

(56:35):
glide system. It features a booster rocket that carries a
hYP personic glide body housed in its nose cone. Once
the booster rocket reaches a ped determined altitude of velocity,
the it separates and found the the what you said,
The glide system separates in the booster and begins its

(56:58):
glide phase, the sending towards the target while trading altitude
and speed for speed and maneuvering at hypersonic velocity. So
it can move even though it's going at hypersonic velocity.
And that's what makes it right now, really really hard,
if not impossible, to shoot down. The missile is claim
to have a range of probably two thousand miles and

(57:20):
speeds that exceed Mark five by some estimates of some people.
It all exceed Mark ten. They've done some calculation and
it's at least Marten maybe Mark thirteen. So yeah, I
mean it has it's a not a very big missile.

(57:42):
The missile weighs but you know, the total missile weight
is about fifteen to sixteen tons, the length is approximately
eleven to fourteen meters, the damage is about ero point
eight seven six meters, And the extremely high impact speed
of the warhead, you know, is what creates a huge

(58:04):
amount of damage. Rather than the explosion it has. It's
built with lots of fragments the explosion and because of
the speed of the impact, these fragments stagger across a
wide area, So this thing would cause massive damage. This
is particularly I think gear towards it destroying defense systems,

(58:24):
like there's four hundred and maybe there's five hundred that
the Russians have. Israel's managed to deal with those even
without hypersonic these kind of advanced missiles. All right, what
else did I want to talk about? Okay? Gold? Yeah,
I mean, we keep tracking gold and silver and the

(58:45):
price just keeps going up. It keeps going up a
gold hill hit. It went over forty five hundred yesterday's
still level forty five hundred today. Last time I looked,
silver is at all time records and it's tough to
understand exactly why price inflation and monetary inflation and not

(59:08):
particularly out of control it's not clear what markets are
pricing when it comes to gold. It's not inflation. It's
not the devaluation that puts you some power of the dollar.
The dollars put your power has not gotten that bad. Indeed,

(59:30):
gold's purchasing power has gone through the roof in a
I don't know, almost absurd kind of way. It used
to say an ounce of gold could buy a suit
in the seventies, to give buy suit in the eighties,
to give buy suit in the nineties. But now an
ounce of gold is forty five hundred, it can buy
many suits. So, you know, the only thing that makes

(59:55):
sense to me is they're expecting some This is a
hedge against major macroeconomic major economic collapse, major economic destruction.
But then why is the stock parket going up? And
why I interstrates, you know, not moving that much, and

(01:00:18):
why is why is are they no und indicators, no
other indicators that the world is coming to an end
other than the price of gold. So it's hard to
fully understand what's going on here, but it is something
to watch. It is a indicative risk. You know, it's

(01:00:38):
interesting who's buying central banks, individuals. It is true that
right now bitcoin has been flat down for the year,
down about thirteen percent for the year, and flat since
it came down off of its peak of one hundred

(01:00:59):
and twenty four. It's now between eighty five and ninety five,
kind of bounces around, mostly in the high eighties eight thousands,
and I don't know. Maybe this is yeah, you'd expect
again people view bitcoin as the heads again also against
the end of the world. Does seem to functioning that way.

(01:01:19):
It's not correlated right now with gold, So I don't
know what the deal is with gold. I don't understand it.
It doesn't make any sense to me. You know, dollars
going down a little bit, but not by much. And again,
the purchasing power of the dollar is not going down

(01:01:40):
much in terms of goods and services, which is what batters.
So I have no explanation. I'm sure that people out
there would be happy to explain it to you. But
this doesn't track price inflation. It doesn't seem to be
tracking monetary inflation. I don't think M two is going

(01:02:04):
up by this amount. I don't think any of the ms,
which are a measure of monetary inflation, are going up
like this. So maybe they're afraid of war. War is
good for gold, but then it's all priced an already
gold is up almost seventy percent this year, seven zero seventy.

(01:02:27):
It just doesn't make any sense to me. I don't
know of any period that did not have high monetary
and price inflation where gold went up this much this quickly.
But yeap where we have it. Windmills. Trumpet demestation is

(01:02:51):
canceling five big offshow wind farms. I think because Trump
doesn't like that they kill the birds. I don't know,
but the promogistration announced it was pausing effective immediately leases
for five large offs offshore wind farms being built on
the East Coast. The Department of the Interior Secretary Doug

(01:03:14):
Baron cited emerging national security risks interesting. What's the national
security risk'd be interesting? I mean this, I hate, I mean,
I'm all, I'm you know, I hate wind farms. Wind
farms ugly, and they're stupid and uh and and they
don't make any sense, and it's subsidized, and it's intermittent,

(01:03:39):
it's unreliable. So I'm glad that you know they're being killed.
But I don't like. I do not like the government
using emerging national security risk we have to invade Greenland,
stop immigrants, and tear off the hell out of you.
And by the way, those wind farms all the nest

(01:03:59):
in then of national security, we have to tear aff
toys so that you can only have three dollars instead
of twenty seven. What the hell? Anyway, these all off
New England, New York State, Connecticut, Rhode Island, Massachusetts, and
Virginias are not all New England. They were supposed to

(01:04:22):
have about five pointy eight gigawatts that they would power
a lot of homes when the window was blowing, probably
a very expensive rate. So how to tell exactly what's
going on here other than we know that the Interior
Department and the Energy Department and Trump himself a pretty

(01:04:43):
hostile to wind farms and dedicated to killing them. All right,
some good news. Good news, So those of you who
have not yet tried GLP ones because they were expensive
because they required you to inject your stomach with the drug,

(01:05:06):
The FDA has just approved a pill, a Wagovi pill,
So instead of having to inject, you can now just
take this pill. I mean, GP one's basically considered these
days a miracle drug. They significantly reduce appetite, and by

(01:05:26):
reducing appetite, they they they, you know, people lose weight.
It's the it's the first time where you're seeing real, sustained,
long term weight loss from a pharmaceutical with very few
side effects, very very few fighters side effects. But in addition,
and not just because of the weight loss, gp ones

(01:05:47):
seem to be good for diabetes. They seem to be
good for hot disease. Probably no impact on from what
I saw on demandsia, but heart disease, diabetes. Yeah, these
seem to be amazing, amazing drugs that have a huge,

(01:06:11):
you know, huge impact on can have a huge positive
impact on our lives, particularly if you overweight. This is
a way to lose weight without being I mean. The
thing is that it stops you from feeling hungry, which
is fantastic. I hate feeling hungry, and I'm hungry all
the time. I could eat NonStop. So the idea of

(01:06:33):
being able to take a pill enough feel hungry is
brilliant and just eat what you need to eat. It
is just amazing. I would ye. Anyway, the drug is out,
I don't know if it's available for microdosing, which is
which a lot of people are doing. With the injections,
But we will find out. And Eli Leley is a

(01:06:59):
competitive no vote no disk which is putting out this
drug Eli and he also has a pill. They expect
their pill to be approved by March. The starting dose
of the pill is going to be one hundred and
forty nine dollars a month, which is significantly less than
what the what the injection was going for. And Eli

(01:07:23):
Lily is going to introduce their drug and there's going
to be competition and the price will come down. It's
also a question of what the dosage is and whether
again you can microdose, that is, can you cut the dough?
Can you split the dose in two? How is this
exactly going to play out? We will see, but I
will let you know if I find out. But I
am I am, you know, generally excited about health, about

(01:07:47):
you know, innovations in biotech. And one of the most
impressive innovations in the drug space over the last few years,
maybe decades, have been these GP one drugs. Now we
will see if they're long term negative effect. But so far,
so good, So far, so good. All right, that is

(01:08:10):
the news. Wait to say I had one, did evoe another?
What else did I have that's the same story. Oh yeah,
you know, since we're talking about drugs that had this story.
So one of the leading scientists in the United States
on mrn A vaccines mRNA vaccines which can be used

(01:08:31):
for cancer, but also could be used for other infectious
diseases like covid, like the flu, like bird flu if
we ever get in the future. But m O and
A technology, which is pretty incredible in terms of the
potential applications that it has. M and A technology, according
to MAHA, make America healthy again is evil and bad

(01:08:56):
and needs to be stopped, and funding is being stopped
and gen really the senses that new mr and A drugs,
new MNA vaccines that might come out will not get
FDA approval because the FDA is anti vaccines and anti mRNA.
So one of the leading scientists, a man named who

(01:09:19):
Haitao hao Hai, who emigrated to the United States and
has had a career in the United States and has
done incredibly well in the United States, whom colleagues have
said loves living in the United States and would want
to stay in the US. Given the hostility of US
authorities to mRNA, has packed up his stuff and is

(01:09:43):
leaving a tenure track position at a major US research
institution to go and work in China. We've got a
brain drain going on in the wrong direction, in the
wrong A very troubling. But this is the consequence of

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One can infer this is One can affer that the
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What do I do? How do I fix it? Or
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The allegations emerging from the deportation of Venezuela and asylum
seekers tell Salvado's Cessa prison are horrifying. Men with no
criminal history were stripped of due process center a country
where they have no connections to and subjected to abuse
of the detention condition. Yeah, we talked about this during
the show. Absolutely horrific, absolutely absurd. The fact that there's

(01:17:06):
so little in terms of opposition to this instead of
people upset by this, the fact that there's no congressional investigation.
This is one reason why Republicans need to lose the
House and maybe the Senate so that they'll start doing
congressional investigations of this, bring it up and make it

(01:17:31):
a focus. But all of ICE's abuses overall, ICE is
a monstrous organization, a monstrous phenomena, and the fact that
it is being ignored by Congress is more support to
the idea that Congress is making itself irrelevant. And if
we get authoritarianism in this country, it's going to be
tele logic extent. The fault of Congress. Where is Congress

(01:17:56):
hearing hearings about Sikhard or about ICE's behavior. It's just unconscionable.
I'm hoping the lawsuits address some of this, and that
they go to the Supreme Court. But in the meantime,
this is exactly what Congress should be investigating. This is

(01:18:17):
the kind of investigative powers that Congress has, and the
fact that it's not is a travesty. Oh, Michael has
a continuation. Thank you, Michael, one hundred and fifty. This
represents a grave abuse of government power and a betrayal
of the rule of law. Absolutely, no administration has the

(01:18:37):
authority to disappear people into found prisons, much less one's
known for brutality based on secret criteria and collectivistic collective suspicion. Yes,
and look, this is where if Republicans had any kind
of principles and any kind of balls, they would impeach Trump.

(01:18:59):
This is an impeachable offense. And again I hope Democrats
win the House and impeach him. And let senators, let's
assume we got a Senate majority Republicans have. Let's senators
defend Trump on this issue. I want to see it
from the floor. Which reminds me I didn't mention this

(01:19:25):
in the news, but a senator, a senator who ha's
some respectful who I saw, who I met once and
so speak live, and I was impressed with a conservative
senator by the name of Ben Sass. He's religious, but
he had a real respect to the funding fathers and
a real understanding, I think, or somewhat of understanding of

(01:19:46):
the funding principles, and he seemed like a principal guy.
He actually voted to impeach Trump after January sixth, and
he ultimately left the Senate and became president of the
University of Florida, and it was there and then left
that position about a year ago because his wife was
having health issues. Well, today he announced that he's just

(01:20:09):
being diagnosed with stage four pancreatic cancer and he's basically
going to die very very soon. That is h He's
basically dead, right, and really sad because Bensas represented I

(01:20:31):
think some of the best within the Republican Party, at
least the model of Republican Party, the post Goldwater Republican Party.
And he is gone or is going to go be
gone soon. It just shows that screening for pancreatic cancer

(01:20:56):
you should screen because if you catch it early, you
can do something about it. Ben says, caught it. When
it's stage four, you can't do anything about it so
screen for pink creatic cancer regularly, regular screening annual screening
for pink creatic cancer, not Chavage algorithm. Can people go
so deep down a hole of irrationality and hatred you

(01:21:19):
can't pull them out? Does this apply to culture? Is
based on hatred? The only way German thinking could be
shaken off homicidal mysticism was through total destruction. Is this
the case with general Z and Maga? Well, suddenly it's
possible that people go down the rabbit hole and they

(01:21:39):
can never come out without being really devastated like the
Nazis were. But it's not inevitable, and it's not clear
that that's true of gen Z and Maga. I don't know.
You'd have to know more of them in person. Let's
hope not, And I don't think it is. They're still young,

(01:22:00):
they still have a chance for reality to correct their ways.
Some of them are probably hopeless. Some of them this
will destroy their lives and and some of them will
recover from it. In terms of as a movement, yeah,
I mean, it's gonna be interesting to see how it evolves,
how big it becomes, and and does it attain power

(01:22:22):
as long as it doesn't attain power. Then it's only
attracting a small minority. And I think people can break
out of it. In Germany, remember it kind of attracted
a huge minority and and and attained power and then
kind of controlled the world, and and that was a

(01:22:42):
high there was, I think, very intoxicating for people, very intoxicating.
It does the culture based on hatred. I don't think
it has to be based on hatred. There's always it
could be based on fear and anger. A lot of
it's based on fear and anger. Fear and anger and

(01:23:02):
of course irrationality. It develops into hatred. It doesn't start.
It starts with fear and anger. Those are two dominant
emotions that lead people down that route. All right, Oh,
I forgot to thank the stickers. Anthony, thank you. It's
twenty something Australian dollars. Mary Alene, thank you. Stephen Harper,

(01:23:29):
thank you. Let's see what else do we have here?
We have CP mil Can just Jonathan Honing, thank you.
Assume he doesn't mind me naming him. All right, thanks guys.
Thanks to the sticker guys. I very much appreciated Adam

(01:23:51):
Ken collecty an employement be morally justified. Yeah, sure. Absolutely,
you paid into it, your employer did, which basically came
out of your wages. So it's like buying insurance. The
fact that it's guaranteed by the government, the fact that
it's a government insurance scheme or whatever you paid in.

(01:24:11):
Absolutely you should be able to take out. Andrews said,
you said the bad libertarians and anti civilization. All libertarians
also anti individual rights. If pro rights, wouldn't they support
the need for protection of rights, a condition of which
civilization depends. Well, I think at the end, anarchy is
anti rights. Anarchy is the recognition that you determine the

(01:24:35):
law based on competition, not based on truth, not based
on rights. You determine the law based on negotiations, penalties.
Justice is negotiated between justice agencies and so on. So
there is no principle defense of individual rights. Indeed, what's

(01:25:01):
his name, David Friedman, Milton Friedman's son, a well known anarchist,
claims there is no such thing as individuals. It's nonsense
on stilts. Brian Kaplan believes in individual rights and defends individuals,
but recognizes that under anarchy they would not be consistently

(01:25:23):
unprincipal defended. They would have to be negotiated. So what
I mean is the anarchist and the anarchist undermine the
very concept of individual rights by advocating for the absence
of objective law, the absence of objectivity and the idea

(01:25:45):
that anything goes and yeah, you know, and anything goes
in that one second, let me just see the question again. Yeah,
anything goes and writes the negotiable. So that's the sense

(01:26:08):
in which I meant it. Andrew, how do you view
CONT's effect on the historical influence of Christianity? How might
the battle of reason versus faith evolve without him? How
might it have evolved without him? I don't know. It's
so hard to tell who would have come instead? What
would have been the direction philosophy would have taken. I mean,

(01:26:29):
he's already taking a lot of bad steps. I mean,
you've got you've got us, You've got Hume, you've got
what's his name writes a nonsense on stilts Benthamp, You've
got mail. So it's hard to tell exactly which direction

(01:26:50):
it would have been bad, but different, less bad, I
suspect and reason would have had a better chance because
it wouldn't have been being co opted by the mystics
in a sense made into a mystical concept. As as
as CONT does, how does the view? I mean, the

(01:27:12):
biggest effect that CONT has had is neutering reason, and
that means more influence of Christianity in its secular and
religious forms. And that of course, of course CONT's UH

(01:27:35):
influence on on on uh, you know, institutionalizing altruism and
UH in a morality of duty UH, which which other
thinkers took on and elaborated on and and and emphasizes
self sacrifice and led to the secularization. I think of
Christian ethics answers, you should do a show where either

(01:28:02):
you wear either yourself or a good economist speculate on
the long term effects of AI. If AI causes a
massive increase in productivity and robots can do many manual
human tasks, what does that look in detail? I mean,
what you need is not an economist. What you need

(01:28:25):
as a science fiction writer. What you need is somebody
who kind of understands psychology human needs. So I mean
you're already seeing the effect. How many people today make

(01:28:45):
a living as influencers, podcasters, entertainers on YouTube or TikTok
or Instagram or whatever. A lot, a lot. Now these
are things that you probably couldn't get AI to do.

(01:29:09):
But you know, think of how many people are doing
that that's and new and that didn't exist fifteen years ago.
It was zero. Ten years ago it was insignificant number
of people, and now millions globally, maybe more. I don't know. So,

(01:29:32):
you know, you'd really have to have you'd really have
to have somebody who was a who had the ability
to predict these kind of things. I don't think you
need economists. Economists will just say, yeah, jobs will be
created way I don't know. Markets will determine that. Economists

(01:29:54):
can't predict which jobs what it looks like you need
the imagination of a science fiction rate equal to reality.
Merry Christmas, you're on Merry Christmas to you, Ian Liam not.
Ian Liam says DNA is real, but ideas are not
in your DNA. That's right, you're Tabla Russell when it

(01:30:16):
comes to ideas. When it comes to content, you have capacities.
Your DNA determines your capacities, not the actual content. Happa
Campbell is Stephen Bannon, an anti Semite. His ex wife
says he's a pretty vicious one. I wouldn't be surprised.
But I don't know. I don't know enough about I mean,

(01:30:37):
Stephen Bannon was used to be very pro Israel. Now
he's very anti Israel. But I think he's just sensing
what is required to move maga anti Semite. I just
don't know. I don't know enough about him. It wouldn't
surprise me at all. He's the kind of personality that
would be Stephen. Thoughts on the novel, Silent Movie and

(01:31:01):
musical Phantom of the Opera. Do you like Beauty the
Beast stories like Hunchback, Manu Laughs, Frankenstein, Edwards, Heads and hands,
et cetera. Emotional powerful themes to me? I think the
musical event of the Office is quite beautiful. It's it's
it's really well done. It's a good story. It's a

(01:31:21):
Beauty of the Beast of course type story. I haven't
read the book, so I don't I don't have anything
about the book. Then the Silent Movie I think I
saw years and years and years ago, quite well made
and quite beautiful and touching. I do like Beauty in
the Beast stories assermainly like Beauty in the Beast. I
love the Disney beauty and the Beast. I think it's

(01:31:42):
a terrific movie. You know, Hunchbackup noted Dame is one
of the great books. You should definitely read it. What's
on the silent versions? There's a silent version with I
think it's silent with Oh God, one of my favorite actors,
Charles Lawton. Charles Lawton playing the Hunchback is really really good. Uh.

(01:32:05):
The Man Who Laughs, of course, is one of the
greatest novels ever written. I'm not a huge fan of Frankenstein. Uh,
it's it's more malevolent than this. Edwards Hans is fun,
but yeah, generally powerful themes of monsters becoming beautiful because
beauty is is who you are. It's your character. It's

(01:32:28):
not how you look, although on Beauty and the Beast
it's also how you look, but character is what matters.
James Taylors, is what ideology overrides reality. Persuasion is over
When ideology overrides reality, persuasion is over. Yes, but most
mystical ideologies, most bad ideologies, try to override reality. It's

(01:32:53):
it's a question of people letting people. People well engaging
in evasion on a large scale. Are people willing to
turn their backs on reality. Lots of people embrace bad
and false ideologies for all kinds of reasons, but they
haven't completely given up in realities. They can be brought

(01:33:15):
back to Earth. You're right. Once they give up in reality,
there's no persuasion. Michael says. Accountability is not optional. The
Constitution does not stop at the border, and individual rights
are not suspended. For Trump's daily theater, It's true although
the Constitution does stop at the border. Constitution does indeed

(01:33:37):
stop at the border. The Constitution, the legal framework of
the United States of America, does not apply outside. What
is true that people don't lose their rights outside of
the border. Everybody, every human being on the planet Earth,
has individual rights. But whereas within the borders of the

(01:33:58):
United States, the Constitution requires the government in a sense
to protect those rights, it does not acquire the government
to protect the rights of people outside of the borders
of the United States. So the Constitution stops at the border,
even if individual rights do not. And suddenly, the US

(01:34:20):
government arrested these people inside the border shipped them to
prison in Ol Salvador. The violation of the Constitution happened
right here in America. In arresting them and shipping them
over there just horrific. Andrew Megan Kelly is is revealing

(01:34:44):
dark premises if she thinks interviewing someone who respects a
mass murderer is okay because we all need to talk
to each other or some sap. She's a coward complicit
to evil, yes, And she's definitely a coward complicity evil.
And she's being called out out on it by Ben
Shapiro and others, and she is lashing back out and

(01:35:06):
this is part of the essence of the fight between them.
And but she is revealing herself to be a very
very dark person, a very dark soul newly dan with Christianity,
the duty to God has a reason heaven. So Judy

(01:35:27):
creates a reason for obedience but destroys giving reasons for it. Yeah,
but a reason for obedience which is unknowable. The reason
is unknoble. That is, the afterlife is unnoble, and whether
it's true or not is unknormal. So it's asking you
to believe in an after the life on the basis

(01:35:48):
of faith so that you have a reason to do
your duty, which is one perversion on top of another,
perversion on top of another. Uh. Linda Howard Fast, who
wrote Spotacus, wrote a novel called Max about early days
of Hollywood. Huh, I'll have to look that up. It

(01:36:09):
would be fun. That would be a fun read. I
think I love Spotacus. Adam looking for a new science,
a new fiction book to read with an inspiring hero.
Have you read all of Rand any recommendations? Can anyone
even come close to Howard work? Well? Atlas Shrugg has
several characters that match up to Howard walk A, Digny,

(01:36:33):
Taggott and Reid In, Hank Criedden and of course John
Golt But I don't want to give it away, but
you know so, definitely Atlas Shrugged we the Living has Cure,
which is amazing. Cure is amazing and anthem. So all
of iine Rand's books are worth reading, Absolutely all of them.

(01:36:56):
In terms of other authors, who go is the one
that I would most recommend, Victor Hugo If you want
grand heroes in an amazing universe, the rugged communityitariat. You

(01:37:20):
claim to support unfettered competition and have said that the
best ideas will win. If this is true, then why
not allow the competition and platforming of ideas like Nick
frantis so I don't. You know, I don't know what
support unfettered competition means, right, So I don't unfetti competition

(01:37:41):
doesn't mean I should support my competitor. That is. Unfetti
competition doesn't mean that Apple should should allow everybody who
wants to to put an app on the App Store.
It has standards and it's you know, certain code is

(01:38:02):
bad and could do damage to phones. It doesn't want that.
It doesn't want pornography on the iPhone. There's a bunch
of things it doesn't want. So you can't put an
app on the App Store? Now does that reduce competition? No,
that's part of competition. Part of competition is the ability
of Apple to do that. Nobody has an obligation should

(01:38:24):
be obligated to a platform psychos, you know, ideas that
are beyond you know, that are uncivilized and disgusting and horrific.
Now you can, you have a right to do it,

(01:38:45):
but nobody should. In a civilized society, Nobody should platform nazis,
nobody should platform racists, nobody should platform communists. Is that
beyond the pale? And part of the competition is the

(01:39:07):
fact that the people who own the platforms are competing
against the Nickoyntis of the world and saying no to them.
That's part of the competition. Competition doesn't mean everybody has
a level playing field. That's not competition. Competition doesn't mean
we all start at the same point. Competition doesn't mean
I need to provide my enemy, you know, my competitor,

(01:39:30):
with a boost. It doesn't mean give him a boost.
Nick Frantis ideas suck. Sucky content should be treated a
sucky content. Just the fact that a lot of people
like it doesn't make it good. It sucks. So how

(01:39:52):
do you treat sucky content? You know it? That's the
best thing to do with the niquentises of the world.
The only reason I need a talk about him is
because idiots like Tucker Carlson platform him and give him
a reach that he and Piers Morgan that he does
not deserve and he shouldn't be receiving. I am I

(01:40:16):
am a huge advocate of canceling people like if you
come to work for me and I discover you a communist,
I will fire you. I will not hire communist, I
won't hire anarchists, I won't hire fascists, I won't hire
anti semites. I won't hire racists. There are a lot

(01:40:38):
of people I won't hire. I am a huge believer
in a rational cancel culture. A cancel culture that's canceling
people who deserve to be canceled, who hold the speakable ideas.
The problem with left wing cancer culture of what five six,
seventy eight years ago, was that they were canceling people

(01:40:59):
for having reasonable ideas. They were canceling people for being rational,
They were canceling people for being just middle of the road,
and they were actually platforming the nutcases. But you know,
I've said this from the beginning in terms of calcic

(01:41:22):
cancer culture. Yes, don't associate. You shouldn't associate with people
you despise. No, they don't. They don't still do it.
No cancer culture, that kind of left is calcic culture
is not happening, not anywhere near the scale as used to.

(01:41:44):
You remember that Google firing that guy who wrote that
paper about women maybe not being quite as good at
programming or something like that. It's not exactly what he wrote,
but I don't I don't want to try to recreate it.
You don't. You don't see stuff like that happening quite
as much. Sinking values really changed, and so it's a
lot of the country. So no, I'm not again. Cancer

(01:42:08):
culture is part of competition. The fact that I have
the power to cancel it is because I've gained that
power through competition. Of course, in competition is not to
be on the end all of everything. Clock could the

(01:42:29):
Enlightenment have finished its job even if Kant had never
come about? Isn't the Enlightenment itself an incomplete project regardless
of opposing philosophers under my need, yes, Ironrand finishes the
job even post kont So. Ironrand is the one who
finishes the job. It would have been good if it
had been finished one hundred years earlier. Maybe couldn't have

(01:42:50):
Maybe needed the Industrial Revolution, you needed that experience in
order to finish the job. But yes, it needed complete
It was flawed. The Enlightenment was significantly flawed. Neil asked

(01:43:14):
what happened in most sub interview with Aari. I guess
he just didn't show up. I don't know beyond that
what happened. As far as I know, he just didn't
show up. But I don't have any insight information nobody
other than that it was it didn't happen. I don't

(01:43:36):
know more than that. All right, Last question, Andrew, how
would you answer an ancap who says that you must
have a negative view of human nature if you think
the rational group in society would lose in a pure
competition without an authority. I don't. It's not an issue
of losing, it's an issue of you know, the reality

(01:44:01):
is that in a competition of physical force, it's not
always and with physical force is legitimized to be competitive,
it's not always the rational wins. It's sometimes the guy
with a bigger gun. It times some guy, the guy
with the bigger muscles. There's enough bad people in society
who can completely disrupt the lives of the rational people

(01:44:25):
in ways that are very, very damaging and harmful, and
that require then the rational people they engage in the
kind of violence that they wouldn't want. They're trying to
not have to live with. The whole point of creating
a civilizedzation with the government is to avoid having to
deal with the violence on a day to day basis.

(01:44:48):
I could probably give a better answer to that, but
I have to admit I'm tired. Thank you, Andrew, Thank you, Michael.
You guys were great. Thank you. Not the average algorithm
all did one hundred plus questions, so I really really
appreciate that. I will see you guys tomorrow. Tomorrow. It
will be in the normal time. I apologize again about

(01:45:10):
earlier today. I know some of you wasted some time
waiting for me to show up. But anyway, Tomorrow two
pm East Coast time, I will see you then for
another news roundup news shows. I'll also do some reviews tomorrow,
reviews shows about are you there? There will be reviews tomorrow. Yes,

(01:45:34):
talk to you tomorrow. Bye everybody, and thanks to all
the super chatters.

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