Searching for Meaning - Socialism, Nationalism, Race And The Alternative | Yaron Brook Show - Yaron Brook Show

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
A lot of them, fundamentals of edom, last little rivers
and any individual loss. This is the show. Oh right,
everybody welcome to run Brooks Show on this Sunday, November sixteenth.

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I hope everybody's having a really great weekend. I am
home finally, at least for a little while. Who was
that like? Leftover music? That was weird? I'm home for
a little while. I leave again on Thursday. But we
should have shows all week except for Friday, so we

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should be good. Maybe no show Thursday, I guess, no
show Thursday, but we should be good Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday.
So now show Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday and uh yes,
so uh we'll jump right into it, will jump right
into the topic city. So, I mean, you know, giving

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a lot of thought to the kind of the people
that I meet as I'm traveling around the country the world,
and and and and this real question I think everybody
should be asking themselves is what's up? You know, what
is causing the significant rise in uh, the commitment and

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passion that young people have around some of the most
you know, radical and radical ideas really from from human history.
You know, I encounter a variety of different types of
socialists and and fall leftists. When I travel young people,

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you know, they're not stupid. It's not that they don't
it's not that they don't understand history. It's it's or
no history. Maybe they don't understand it, but they know it,
you know then. And it's not that they can't see.
I don't know the difference between Israel and the Palestinians

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or a million other things. And yet they are they
are committed to their socialism. They're committed. They're trying it again,
and they're quite passionate about it. And it's at least
for a certain period in their life. For many of
these people, it is it becomes kind of a central
theme in their life. And this is true also of

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kind of the fascists out there, the white nationalists, the
the gropers, the you know, they they seem to this
dominates their life. Everything is filtered through this. Every interpretation
of every statement you make, everything is filtered through either
the kind of Marxist socialist perspective or they woke perspective,

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or their nationalist perspective or their white identitarian perspective. And
it's it kind of it dominates. And again these are
These are not dumb people. These are these are as
I told you I think I did this debate on
on Christianity in San Francisco, and you know, these were

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these were founders and companies, These were computer science students
at Stanford or Berkeley, almost all men, almost all guys.
I think socialism appeals more to women. But but you know,
you're definitely on on across the board. You see men

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in particular gravitate towards these kind of ideas. Uh and uh,
you know the shock and surprise that some of them
expect at my not just rejection but my fury at
their white nationalist views but was surprising. It's it's as if,

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I you know, challenge some basic fundamental belief that they
that they had about the world. So what is going on?
What is the appeal of all this? What? Why is it?
I mean, if you think it's it's it's it's all
young people, primarily young people. It's not all young people
to primarily young people. It is you know, extraordinary passion, commitment, uh,

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to the extent that they thought it thinking, to the
extent that they can think dedicate to this and and
and it really shapes everything about them. It shapes how
they view history. They don't know history. One of the
things that's absolutely the case is the shoote ignorance that
kids Familian Americans. But I think I think this is

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I think this is global. They just don't know history.
I mean, you know, I keep learning new things about
history that I just didn't know, big things, not little things,
big things about history that I just didn't know. And
I am trying to make an effort to close the gaps.
So I can imagine, you know, they gaps are massive.
They just have no clue and they usually have very

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few sources for whatever information they have. They don't know,
they don't know where the world around them comes from.
They don't know any of that. And yet the committed,
dedicated passionate around these ideologies. And the question is why,

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And look, the answer is going to be. The answer
why is complex and it's got psychological dimensions and many others.
So we're gonna try to approach us from the perspective
of one dimension, and that is, I think, from the
perspective of morality ultimately and and the kind of and
and the search for meaning, the search for purpose in life,

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the the you know, what is this life for? What
why should I be alive? What should I do with
my life? And it's interesting that the search for meaning
in life that has been I think at the forefront
of a lot of debate out there. Of course Joan
Peterson made made much of his success around it has

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not really focused, really centered, really gravitated towards politics. And
there's a and and this is really I think part
of the question. It really does seem to me, It
really does seem to me that these socialists and fascists
and identitarians of different kinds, and white nationalists and nationalists

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and neoliberals and all this stuff among young peop people,
at least, all these ideologies are replacing meaning for them.
It's replacing purpose for them. It's what you know, integrates,
it starts to integrate their life, and it's why they're
so passionate, why they're so driven. Now, I expect that

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as I get older, it will dissipate because other things
will come to the forefront and suddenly the political will
fade for you know, for variety, for a variety of reasons,
you know, just just in terms of focus. They'll have families,
they'll they'll have careers, they're there and they will lose interest.
I mean, there's only so much interest you can have

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in politics. But it is really uh depressing and disappointing
that what we've come to is meaning as politics. So
they self identify in terms of politics. Now they might
self identify, particularly the kids on the right, might self

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identify primarily in terms of religion. But religion is not
associated with, you know, how they behave on a day
to day basis. It's not associated with I don't know
a lot of the life that they had. I mean,

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I think I asked the group on during this debate,
during this debate in UH in San Francisco, I think
I think I asked them something like I don't know.
I don't remember how I faced it exactly. Unfortunately there's
no video recording of it. But I think I face
it something like, you don't live, you probably don't your

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sex life is probably not particularly Christian. And a few
of them said, you know, a few of them said yes,
my is you know. I think I think one of
the two of the guys and I said, okay. So
I said something like, okay, so we have a few
virgins among us, and everybody laughed. But they laughed the
kind of nervous laugh knowing that, yeah, they just didn't

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represent most of them. So they they they have their religion,
but it's not like they're out preaching directly religious values.
They're not of some religious crusade or whatever crusade they're on.

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It is manifest in politics. Everything about what they're doing
at the end is politics. You know, how many of
them are taking their Catholicism so seriously that they go
into seminary school very few, How many of them are
taking their religions so seriously that they're you know, in

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their personal life, in every aspect of their life they
are they are dedicating themselves completely to Christ and to studying.
These were primarily Catholics. Protestants have a somewhat different relationship
to religion. I mean, it's still I don't get that sense.
I get the sense of what they get passionate about,
what they're interested in, what they really really care about,

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and where their mind immediately goes is the politics. It's
very hard to argue with them even about ethics and
what it means and what it stands for, and what
Christianity actually means and what kind of ethics they live by.
How many of them, particularly that group in San Francisco,

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pursue prophet, pursue prophet, and you know, maybe they're a
little childable, but not too much. So it's it's the politics.

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It's the political identification that is the constitute much of
their identity, much of how they view themselves and how
they view the world. Why why politics? Why these political

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you know realms And at the end of the day,
what is the alternative? So think about you know, growing
up as we all did, right, we all did a
in a altruistic world. We are taught from very early
on the purpose, the meaning of life that a maa

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purpose is. The other is the satisfaction of other others needs,
desires or you know better yet, maybe we learned from
a very young age that at the end of the day,
the one need that we shouldn't be really focused on,

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the one thing that we really shouldn't spend too much
time on, the one thing that we really shouldn't pursue,
is our own self interest and and we should be
looking out for others placing their interests, not too much,
and not always, and not in every realm with life,
but but from more perspective, from a fundamental, more perspective.

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We should be thinking in terms of other people. Uh
and uh, and other people are somehow you own your
moral responsibility and and if you're if you're a Christian,
you know getting them on the on the correct path

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is your responsibility, and feeding them if they're poor, is
your responsibility. And their happiness is somehow your responsibility, and
the state of the world is somehow your responsibility. You
must live for them, and and and again. Nobody takes

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us too seriously, although they do in the end, but
they're not willing to explicitly state this outright. But altruism
is everywhere in our culture, and it is particularly in
the denunciation of anything to do with egoism and anything
to do with self interest. The interests of others are primary,

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that paramount they wear our entire focus should be. Now
assumeing that's the case, then, when it comes to finding
a purpose in life or meaning in life, meaning means
in a sense of justification for your life, a reason

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for living, a centrally think about it in terms of purpose,
a centrally integrating theme that drives your life, the thing
that integrates all of your activities around which you want
to achieve. Stuff you can't make that purpose or meaning
egoistic or self interested, even though many of these young

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people would like to. They you know, particularly again the
San Francisco crowd. You know, they have careers, they're doing
interesting stuff, they're studying interesting material, they're pursuing interesting things.
But that would be you know, that can't be the
meaning because that is just what you like, you are

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passionate about. It's just what you find interesting, and meaning
can't be can't be just you. So in their search

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for I think meaning, they have to look for the other.
They have to look at the other. And you know,
very few of them are inclined to actually, uh, you know,
find individual others to look at. And immediately when they do,
it's uncomfortable. You know, you're who you're going to sacrifice too,

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which other? Which person out there? Very few people of
them actually want to go and work with the poor
and sacrifice to the poor. You know, in a personal way.
They're busy, they're smart, they've got stuff to do. But
they know the meaning has to come from caring, sacrificing

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and doing for the other. And this is where politics
in escence serves that purpose. By advocating for political cause,
you are advocating for what is politics about. Politics is
about society, the group, the collective. It's about the other,

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and it's unscale. You can scale it. It's not just
one or two or the meek, or it's all. It's
all others. And it's a way to express that altruism.
It's a way to express the need to take care

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of others, the need to in a sense, run other
people's lives, to dictate to others how they should be
and what they should be, because it's your moral responsibility
to do so. Unscale. So you know, they they those
who find religion find religion. Those who don't find religion

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are looking for meaning out there. And remember I mean
this crisis, a meaning crisis, a purpose I think is
well identified in kind of the literature, if you will.
It's about you know, young people really not knowing what

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to do with their lives and not knowing what it's
all for and what the purpose of it all, many
of them as a consequence, which reached into video games
and into isolation and into you know, misery because they
don't know, they don't know what their life is for,
they don't understand it. They have no purpose, they have

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no reason they have no striving and John Peterson of
course identified this, and much of his fame and much
of his success came from the fact came from the
fact that he addressed this directly, that he went to
young people and said, I know you have lost purpose,

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you can't find meaning. Well, let me help you. Let
me help you. And ton't Peterson understands implicitly, because I
don't think he's considered any alternative. That mini has to
be found in. The other has to be found in altruism.

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It has to be found out there. It can't be
found inside you. That would be egoistic and self interested,
and that can't be right. So it's the other, and

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you know, and he says, you have to it's two steps. First,
you have to do some self interested kind of first
level of things. You have to, in a sense, take
some level of responsibility for your own life. You can't
act in the world without at least being able to
act effectively in the world without at least being able
to make your bed and stand up straight. And it

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takes some responsibility for your own life. But then the
meaning of life, he tells us, comes from taking responsibility
for the lives of other people taking responsibility for others.
And this is a powerful message that I think people
are responding to, whether directly to Jordan Peterson or just

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to the zeitgeist in the culture, to the atmosphere and
the culture. We need to take responsibility, We need to
find meaning, and that meaning can only be found in
other people. That meaning can only be found and take
responsibility for other people. And you know, if you care
about other people and you see, I don't know, cost
of living going up, and the poor and there's a

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lot of poverty and a lot of homelessness and places,
you know, you might gravitate towards towards socialism. And I
think a lot of people do as a as a
fix somehow to all these societal problems that are basically,
in your view, grounded and rooted in some kind of

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economic failure material failure in the world. So if you're
not religious, and you view the world from a kind
of an economic perspective, and you view poverty and all
of that, then ye, socialism is a way to express
yourself and to find purpose and meaning and pursue it
and gopherts and advocate for it to help those others

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over there, And it becomes it becomes a political and
you get involved and you go hand out flyers for
Mamdani and you sign people up to vote, and you
you know, these people are really passionate. It's not vake.
They don't make it up. They are trying to, you know,
express the meaning in their life by making the world

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a better place. And making the world a better place
from their perspective is you know, we need to help
those who obviously not helping themselves. It has to be
the other. And I think a lot of people on
their way they are also you know, upset by the

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state of the world. Their plight might be if you
were more spiritual. They have found maybe meaning in some
meaning in religion. But okay, but what do they do
with that? What do they out do they express this?
How do they express this meaning that they found the

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existence of God the scriptures? How do they express this
in the world in which we live? Well, what they
find is is, uh, there's people who are what you
call it, you know, spiritually poor, that have given up
on life, that again don't have purpose of meaning. But
but part of that is the failure or the disappearance

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of community. And and they they look at people and
and and you know, how how do we how do
we bring them out of this? And and their focus,
for whatever reason right on the other is to like
send other that looks like me. And they view people

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who look different than them as a threat. And they're
willing to sacrifice and and get passionate and engage in
and they make the meaning of their life they help
people who look like them. This is the kind of
a primitive form of tribalism, or not a primitive form,
a form just tribalism. Not a primitive form, just tribalism,

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which is a primitive of galectivism. Right, it's it's you know,
it's interesting because it's it's it's it's clearly less sophisticated
than socialism. Socialism is are much more sophisticated ideology than
white nationalism. White nationalism is an appealing ideology for people
who don't want to don't want to put too much

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thought into it. It's gutta roll, it's it's it's it's
just you know it. If I thought people had instincts,
it would be an appeal to their instincts. But it's
an appeal to kind of the the most primitive barbaric
within us. But it's sexy right now, and you know

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you have to find purpose and the other well, uh,
you know, the other will look like me. That that's
much easier, that's much nicer. And then you know, I
don't have any self esteem because I have you know,
where would have gotten self esteem from. Then I'm gonna
search for kind of a pseudo self esteem in one way,
search for suit of self esteem. And I saw this

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again with this group in San Francisco, my ancestors, Oh,
those Spanish conquistadors. A number of people stood up and
we're proud of the conquist the door ancestors. Now, look,
there's some good things about conquistadors, you know, the adventure,

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the discovery, but there's also a lot of brutality. Uh
And and of course you know the fact that they
came to the New World in order to turn all
these Pagans into good Christians, uh, in a in a
pretty in a pretty you know, pretty barbaric way, using force.

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So they embrace, they embrace the success of their forefathers
in blood, in genes, whatever they want to call. Spain
used to be a mighty empires. I'm proud of being
of Spanish blood. Said a guy from Mexico. They have

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no probably they have no achievements yet of them their own,
so they look for the achievements in their own past. Again,
pretty primitive base form of meaning. So I'm dedicated to

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They're dedicated to European They're dedicated to, you know, Western civilization,
but as looking like them, as white, not as a civilization,
not as the ideas that make civilization possible, but as
the blood that makes civilization possible. And they find meaning

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in that, they find passion in that. They dedicate themselves
to that, and they pursue that. They pursued in nationalism,
the greatness of America. It's not like they really understand
why America is great, what made America great, who the

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founder is really were what they actually advocated for Now,
there were white British guys who were Christian. That's enough
for them. They can associate with that. They they can
they can relate to that. This Mexican claim not to

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be very mixed, but anyway, I know. So what you
see is meaning is politics filling the gap for self
esteem and the gap for meaning. Political engagement, political beliefs,
political ideology becomes a substitute for real purpose for real meaning,

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even as these people might pursue things like careers where
you could find real purpose and real meaning if you looked,
if you looked, and all of this is a consequence

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of altruism. So altruism, I mean, there are a number
of different ways in which altruism can express itself in
the search people have for a purpose and meaning, But
certainly you would expect its manifestation to be in collectivism,
in the group in the other So what unites all

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of these socialist nationalists, racists and I'm sure there's a
bunch of other that I could have listed here gropers,
you know, whatever anti semites is that all of these ideologies,
the collectivistic ideologies that allow you to gain some identity

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and to give you some kind of purpose in life,
they all try to explain the world in their own
way that requires very little effort on your behalf. I mean,
how many even people who are out there who consider
them socialists, I'm not talking about the intellectuals, talking about
the masters, how many of them actually know what socialism is?

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How many of them have actually read call Marks? How
many of them know the history of socialism? Going back
to Commune's you know, way back in you know, early Christianity,
and maybe even before that. They find the purpose and
meaning in life, at least for period in their youth,

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in collective identity, in the identity of a group, and
it's as an escape because it eliminates the need to
establish real self esteem. It eliminates so it's it's and
and what they have is a pseudo sense of self esteem.

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They can never be fully happy, they can never be
fully fulfilled. And indeed, as they go older, they'll become
cynical about their political past, but they won't really replace
it with anything. They'll go through midlife crisis, they'll feel
guilty if they're successful. When they go older, they'll continuously
look for groups that they can hang out with. But

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they'll never be fulfilled. They'll never be flourished completely as
human beings. They'll never be happy, they'll never achieve happiness
because they're looking for meaning for purpose in the wrong place,
in the wrong place. But it is I don't I
think it's true that in the past, while collectivism was

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still alive and well and altruism certainly was, that people
so adopted politics and the collect a collectivistic identity quite
as readily as we're experiencing right now. I think this
is further decline in the individualism this inherent in our culture.

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This is for the decline in individuals actually seeking out values.
It is a further decline in individuals taking their own
life seriously. And it's I think part of kind of

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the Jordan Peterson answer, or I mean the cultural answer,
the religious answer to what the purpose of life is.
And notice that those who ultimately come to the conclusion
that life has no meaning, as I think many people,
many people do that life has no meaning. They're the

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ones who become the nihilists. Life has no meaning, values
have no meaning. Blow it all up, watch it burn.
And you see those on both the right and the left,
you see the nihilists wanting to see it burn. So

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it really all senders around meaning and purpose and identity
and how people think of themselves. And the worst abandon all.
They abandon themselves and they ban all meaning in the
name of yeah, it all sucks. Either burn it down

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or bury myself in my parents' basement and play video
games for the rest of my life. I won't seek
a Korea, I won't seek a love life, I won't
seek a family. I won't seek happiness, I won't seek
values period And in a sense, the better ones find

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it in politics and find it on Twitter, and find
it on Facebook and find it all these, you know,
different groups where they can debate, discuss and passionately engage
in a political one upmanship, but all focused, all of
it really focused on you know, collectivistic on identitarian type

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politics or class type politics, but collectivistic, you know, socialism,
collectivistic nonetheless. And then there's some who you know, find
purpose and meaning in their life. They typically are not

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thinking about it too much, sadly, so it's not clear
that our goal directed it are how focused they are,
how but they find it nonetheless, and they live their
lives and they ignore the collectivistic nonsense, and they ignore
the nihilists and they just live and you know, and
it might be that a big chunk of the population

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is like that. They never think of it in terms
of purpose and meaning, and a lot of it results
in their floundering and their life being so so, but
they don't get captured. They don't get captured by the way.
I see. The chat has all kinds of questions for me,

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and I would, I will, I will, you know, gladly

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respond to all of them. So if you're curious about
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If you put a super chat in, everybody who listens
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you're talking about. So if it's in the super chat,

(34:51):
you have much bigger impact. You want to embarrass me,
you know, bring it on, Bring it on. If somebody
wants to ask a question that somebody already asked, Uh,
do it. Here we go. We've got we've got, We've
got some five dollars questions. I don't know qt g

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t q is Guatemala money, Guatemala, quetzal, quetzal. So what's
the alternative? What's alternative? Where? Where does man find meaning?
Where do we find meaning? How can we find meaning?

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Where should we find meaning? I mean, the first thing
one has to challenge and reject really is the entire philosophy,
the entire morality of altruism. Altruism, you know, it needs
to be rejected. And if you embrace a morality of egoism,

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a morality of rational lung term self interest, then where
is meaning to be found? It's pretty straightforward. Meaning is
to be found in living your life. I mean, what

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objectivism teaches you? What a rational self interest in morality?
He teaches you is not to such a meeting out there,
not just such a meaning in others, not to such
a meaning in some you know, some goal, some value
greater than yourself, which every politician, every single politician, every

(36:49):
politician you know, advocates for. You know, all the speeches right,
seek out a purpose greater than yourself. Now, how about
a purpose that is up to myself, that is myself purpose?
Meaning ultimately, for an egoist is their own life. It's

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living that life, living that life to the fullest, living
that life, as I Grant would say, as a human being,
living that life based on your nature, living a rational
life in pursuit of happiness, in pursuit of flourishing, in
pursuit of living the best damned life capital l that

(37:35):
you can live. Somebody asked what happiness is. I mean happiness.
I ran to find it as a state. It's a
state state of consciousness. Right. It's not momentary joy, or
momentary this, or or just a fleeing feeling. It is

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a state of consciousness that you have that you sustain
over time of non contradictory joy. You're not torn by contradictions.
You're not torn by the struggles in life. You're not
torn by who the sacrifice to you today. I mean,
you might struggle with decisions, you might struggle with choices,

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but at the end of the day, you know that
your purpose, what your purpose is. You know what you're heading,
you know why you're doing what you're doing, and that
gives you a certain satisfaction, a certain just state of yeah,
this is good, this is life. It's not contentment. It's

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something much more powerful. Than just being content because it
involves striving and ambition and drive. It's about, you know,
living a good life, enjoying the douctive activity that you do,
which is so central to all of our lives. It's

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about enjoying the things that one does, finding things that
one loves, and pursuing those loves. It's, you know, in
many respects, it's about love. It's about living an integrated life.

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So what is meaning and objectivism? The meaning of life
is to live. Your purpose in life should be to
live live the best I am life you can to
live with the goal of being happy. And happiness comes

(39:48):
from captains, comes from achieving your values, comes from challenge
yourself and achieving succeeding. Sonia says that only money can

(40:19):
help you do that. That's just not true, absolutely not true.
I mean, most of us will live a significant portion
of our lives without money, will be poor. Took me
a long time before I had any money, any meaningful money.
Was I not happy during that time? Of course, I
was happy pursuing the goals. I was studying, learning, I

(40:45):
was building a family, I was doing stuff. And you
know what am I am? I happier once I got
money I mean in some senses, you know, because that's
that was on the road. But that's something to be achieved.
It's not oh when I when I get money, I'll
be happy. That that is that is upside out. You'll

(41:09):
be if you're happy while making money, the money will
make you even more happy. Since abound enjoying life, you
get meaning from the living. You get meaning from the
enjoying you get living. You you you you get meaning

(41:33):
really from life itself, from the process of it, from
the embrace of it, from the caring about it, from
the joy that comes from achieving values. And you know,
you gotta find things that enhance joy, friendship, love. But

(41:56):
you know, from many people most importantly is their career,
their productive work, the productive work that they do. So

(42:21):
don't look for meaning out there. There is no meaning
out there. There is nothing greater than your life. There's
nothing more important than your life. Even when we say
we're willing to risk our lives to something. Freedom, liberty
certainly abstractions. Who's freedom? Who's liberty? Your own? And by extension,

(42:47):
the people you love. You fight, you know, in a sense,
you might go to war and fight for an abstraction,
but that a section is because of its importance to
you objectively, not subjectively, but objectively importance to you. So yes,

(43:32):
it's in yourself. A note that if you're focused on
your own happiness, your own life, and said life is
the purpose of life, or life is the if you
want to replace it with meaning, life is the meaning
of life, Living is the meaning of life, then why
kind of politics would you embrace? So first, it's not

(43:56):
going to be the center of your life, because politics
is finally about society and organizing it. In the first
and primary most important thing you should be thinking about,
particularly when you're young, you should be thinking about is
you is? What should I study at school? What hobby

(44:16):
should I pick up? What should my career be, How
do I pursue that career? What steps unnecessary? What I
need to know to be successful? How do I find
somebody to love? How do I create a group of
really valuable friends. So the first priority, particularly when you're

(44:40):
young and throughout your life, really at the end of
the day, throughout your life is you, your life, your values,
pursuing them, achieving them. And the only reason to get
involved in politics is because in a world, particularly in
the world in which we live, politics keeps getting in
the way a pursuing your values keeps getting in the

(45:04):
way of living your life to the fullest. And that
requires your involvement, not your involvement of politics for the
sake of politics, or politics are the sake of the group,
or politics for the sake of your heritage, your politics
for the sake of the poor, politics for the sake
of getting rid of the barriers that make it harder

(45:27):
for you to live your life the way you want
to live it. And those barriers are taxes and regulations
and controls and limitations on abortion and on business formation
and a million other things that the government keeps stepping
on us in the name of collectivism, in the name
of the common good, in the name of the nation,

(45:49):
in the name of something. You focus on your life,
you make your life the best that it can be,
and then you start identifying, oh, there's certain political issues
that are important to me because they represent barriers to
me achieving even more with my life than I already have.
And that's why I want to get involved in politics,

(46:11):
because I want to get rid of those barriers to
my life. So individualists are not as concerned about politics
as the rest you know, unless you know it's a

(46:31):
particularly interest of yours or career or hobby. But for
the most part, it's just not that important because too
busy living, remember living capital And of course, the politics

(46:52):
one embraces as an individualist is a politics of leaving you,
as an individual, free to do what you think is
right and what you think is good for you. What
is the politics of individual happiness? Freedom? What's the politics

(47:14):
of individuals' ability to pursue their meaning and their purpose
in life? Freedom? So individualists embrace a politics of freedom.
They embrace capitalism. They don't embrace conservatism or nationalism or
socialism or any of any of these collectivistic ideologies. They

(47:38):
reject all of them. They're not republicans, they're not democrats,
they're not any thing on the ideological spectrum. They're capitalists
because what they care about, what they really care about,

(48:01):
is freedom. And who's freedom they care most about. They won't.
They won't because they realize that to fully, to fully
be able to live the best life that you can live,
to take advantage of all the opportunities that exist and
could exist, to have the most options, to have the

(48:26):
greatest life possible, one must be free and I and
I think all individualists, real individuals take personally all these
evil ideologies. Why, because all these evil ideologies want to
place restraints on me, want to limit my ability to live,

(48:50):
my life, my ability to thrive, my ability to fourlish,
and the people I love, which is mine. I mean,
it's not that socialism to me is some abstraction. No,
it's a way to take away my life. You know.

(49:10):
They want to tax me more. They want to tell
me what I can and cannot do, what businesses I
can and cannot open, how I relate to other people.
It's not like, you know, the white nationalists. I mean,
he was surprised that I got so offended because they
don't take politics personally. I do because I know the
damage they do to me and to you and to

(49:33):
people I care about. So I don't want to live
in the destructive world. I don't want to live in
the world that they create. So meaning is to be
found in your own life. Meaning is to be found

(49:56):
in living. Purpose is to be found in happiness. The
ultimate purpose of life is to live the ultimate purpose
of that life is to be happy. It's to live successfully.
It's to live as a human. It's to live as
a rational being and that's a beautiful, motivating, exciting thing.

(50:27):
It's amazing to me how much or how many people
reject individualism when you know it's it's it's so much
fun to be oriented and focused on. How do I

(50:49):
make my life amiss that it can be? How do
I live a good life? How do I pursue positive
life affirming values? And you know, we can go how
to do all that? Thomas says, But how do we

(51:12):
confront the void? Thomas should ask a super check question
because he's asking a lot of questions in the chat.
Doesn't I mean, when confronts the void by recognizing it
doesn't exist. It doesn't exist. When you die, you die,
you're gone. It's not the void doesn't exist because when

(51:35):
you don't exist, nothing exists. So it's just not there.
There's nothing to be scared of, there's nothing to be
afraid of, there's nothing to really be confronted. All you
have to do is live. Is there really a void
between Adams? Right? Maybe he knows something I don't. But

(51:59):
even if there is, who cares? Why does that affect
your life? How does the void between atoms affect your life?
You have to really come up with some convoluted reasoning
to think that if there is a void between atoms,
they might not be that should affect your life in
some way. The void is everything, it must be understood.

(52:23):
That's pure garbage mysticism. It's the void, it's who cares,
it's irrelevant, and it's not clear there is a void
between animals. But anyway, yeah, you can laugh, but it's
it's pure mystical bs. Why must the void be understood anyway?

(52:46):
Pursue your life, pursue your happiness, find meaning in that,
find joy, find love, find life affirming values, Life affirming values,
life again is the standard. All right, guys, thank you

(53:11):
for sticking with me. I hope, I hope you enjoyed
that and benefited somewhat from it. We let's shift now
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(53:34):
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(53:58):
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(59:56):
of questions, and what I like about this is there
a lot of them are like twenty dollar the questions.
But let's start with the five hundred Australian dollars, which
is huge. Thank you, Troy, really really appreciate that. And
this is what Troy writes. Years ago, I read I
seemed teleb in sto collection of books. However, I can't

(01:00:18):
bring myself to pick up his books again. Given his
horrendous view on the Israeli Palestinian conflict, shouldn't be possible
to separate a person's personal views from professional work. Sanctioning
the sanction of I mean, it's it. I think it's

(01:00:44):
completely healthy. Put it this way. I think it's completely
healthy to not want to touch anything somebody who's doing
something that you find incredibly offensive. You don't want to
touch their stuff, And in particular when it's raw and

(01:01:04):
present and current, like I don't know, if Nasiem Teleb
passes away at some point and and and years have
gone by, then absolutely you should read his books, and
I think the edge will retreat. I mean, but yeah,
right now, reading his stuff feels like a sanctioning of this,
of of of of him, of Taleb and his views

(01:01:29):
more broadly. I mean, you could you could expand this right.
So Wagner the composer was a real antist am I.
And there's a lot of people who lived through the
Holocaust who cannot listen to Vargner because because they feel
like he's somehow sanctioned what the Nazis did, and and

(01:01:51):
and and they can't separate it. It it's too much
part of what they are and and they experienced it.
But it's a shame not to be able to enjoy
Vagner's music. So you have to say Wagner was wrong
in this. Maybe even you know said yology was evil,

(01:02:14):
and yet his music is beautiful. And I'm I'm gonna
because I'm selfish, self interested, I'm going to focus on
the music. But I can completely understand that somebody who
actually lived it, maybe even was in a concentration camp
where they played Wagner's music in the background, would not

(01:02:35):
be able to make that separation. So I completely understand
while things are going on in Israel while it's fresh,
that you cannot pick up an a seam to tell
their book. That makes complete sense to me, and I
certainly right now we're not buying us tell them book.
Is that that puts money in his pocket, And I
wouldn't want to do that, But I'd say in ten

(01:02:58):
years things have common down. Maybe it's not urgent, you know,
maybe he's not writing about it. If there's real value
in those books, and one has the question, I mean
part of the issue, and I don't know that inserto
collection of books. I've read some of his books but
I can't remember there being a collection. I've read Black

(01:03:19):
Swan and Skin in the Game. I think and and
you know, there's value in his books. There's some good
stuff in his books, but you also get his really really,
really awful personality in the books. I mean and and
the bad philosophy I mean, absolutely corrupt philosophy that that

(01:03:45):
seems to live has I And if you read The
Black Swan, for example, it is basically a book about skepticism,
defending skepticism. It basically tells you can't know anything. There
is no such thing ascertainty. There's no sill seeing as
inductive knowledge. You can't really know anything except there's only
one thing you can know with certainty, metaphysical suddainty, and

(01:04:12):
that is that no sem Teleb is right about everything.
And that's generally Teleb's practice, it's his modus of paranda.
It's the way he functions in the world. Skeptical about
everything except what nasin. Teleb says, what he says, what
he thinks. He has some connection, some ability to connect

(01:04:34):
to reality that none of us have, that none of
us have, and we should just just accept his sayings
as the truth. Capital truth, capital letters so and the

(01:05:00):
Sametimes always had a flawed personality, which is reflected in
that kind of a kind of epistemological metaphysical arrogance that
comes across in his books and and and and and
bad philosophy, which comes across as a skepticism in the books.
So it doesn't surprise me that on certain political issues
he is just absolutely fundamentally unequivocally wrong and evil, evil

(01:05:25):
in in his views on the Israel Pelishinian conflict. And yeah,
right now, I couldn't read in a sentillion book. I'd
keep seeing the name and keep remembering what he says
about it. To the extent that there's value in the books,
I would postpone getting that value to uh when when
at least that his betrayal of reason and rationality, his

(01:05:50):
betrayal of civilization is not as imminent, as not as relevant, Well,
I can look back at it and say, yeah, consistent
with the rest of his character. I I just wanted
to learn these nuggets and of way he's right, because
on some things he's he's right on. I mean, there's
a lot of truth in some truth in the Black Swan,

(01:06:12):
there's a lot of truth in skin in the game
and others, and a lot of his critique of finance
and of of rely once and soch statistical model modeling
is absolutely true. So there's there is value in his books.
One wouldn't want to ignore that value because he's such
as such a a joke and has such bad ideas

(01:06:38):
on other fronts. And one has to be careful when
reading somebody like to live knowing that he's wrong on
fundamental issues, like his skepticism is astemological, it's deep, it's
it's and it's metaphysical. You have to hold that in
your mind as you read him, and and what to

(01:07:02):
accept about what he says, what he says in the books,
and what not to accept, and hold him to a
very high standard of a proof because he's coming from
a corrupt philosophical context, very correp philosophical context. Thank you, Troy.
I hope that was helpful. All right, we've got a

(01:07:22):
few fifty dollars questions. Let's, oh, one hundred dollars questions,
So let's sell with that. Liam has one hundred dollars.
He says when Goldwater ran, the GP was not particularly religious.
What animated the Republican establishment back then was a return
to the constitution and individual liberty. Once Goldwater lost devastatingly,

(01:07:43):
the Republican establishment shifted to Christian statism, I mean slowly,
Like Nixon was not a Christian statist, but by the
time you get to Reagan, Reagan, well he might have
not been a Christian status. He brought the Christian status
solidly into the Republican Party and made them the core
of it, certainly the moral core. But even Goldwater has

(01:08:05):
that right, I mean. Ironman's critique of Goldwater is that
he is incapable of defending morality. So he is incapable
of defending capitalism morally without reference to religion. That Goldwater,
while himself not particularly religious and and and uh dedicated

(01:08:27):
to the founding and all of that uses religion and
and and she is very upset with him on how
much he uses religion and the fact that he relies
on religion to argue the capitalism's moral and and and
she views him this as as a huge weakness of
his and ultimately why he loses in the end. So,

(01:08:53):
you know, not particularly religious maybe, but still not willing
to accept a non religious madl framework and using religion
when it's convenient for them. So I think religion has

(01:09:15):
always been in the background. It's always been the default.
It's always been what they've relied on to justify their
other positions, or to think they justify their other positions,
because you cannot justify the other positions with them. All right,
we'll get a couple of fifty dollars questions. Thank you, Liam,

(01:09:36):
I really appreciate one hundred dollars, Doodo Bunny. If we
have another worldwide fascist revolution, the Objective's movement will have
been a resounding failure. Doodo Bunny loves to point out
our failures. It is one thing to win slowly, another
to have Rand's entire philosophical breakthroughs ignored while mankind reverts

(01:09:57):
the surfdom. But it's a failure that Lendipeacock and to
some extent I man predicted. So I don't know what
you call that. When when the philosophy actually predicts that
it's going to happen, right, Leanipeacock will dominant parallels and
then he wo dim and basically both books end with
this is what's going to happen. And Lenipiacoff, in many

(01:10:20):
of his lectures has said it's truly for objectivism. We're
not going to be able to succeed and prevent this
cultural failure. Objectivism will rise up out of the ashes
of some dark ages brought about by fascism or communism
or whatever that is going to envelop this world. It's

(01:10:44):
part of our philosophy, and it's part of our understanding
of the way ideas work in the culture. Objectivism is
too hard. After two thousand years of altruism and the
dedication to Christianity that both the religiousnessts and the secularists have,

(01:11:05):
particularly towards Christian morality, but in two thousand years of
false philosophy of rationalism, intrinsicism, subjectivism, relativism, it's just too
much to expect the culture to change quickly enough to stop.

(01:11:30):
It's the client. I mean, he makes this point pretty
explicitly and dim it's not an issue from his perspective
of failure. It's an issue of this is the state
of the culture, this is the state of their thinking
or lack of it, and it's just going to take
a very, very, very long time for us to convince

(01:11:53):
them of the reality of this. And you know, it
might very well be that no matter what we do,

(01:12:16):
no matter how much we try, what arguments we make,
it's too early. It's just too early. Yeah, let's really,
really really hope that in spite of earth whatever, an

(01:12:39):
alco capitalism will never will never happen, because an alcho
capitalism is like you know, communism and fascism. It is
a system of force. It is a system of force
that is destructive to human individual life, individual human life. Anyway, No,
I don't view it as a failure. You know, if

(01:13:04):
you know medio hits the earth and you know a
billion people die, is that a failure of objectivesm There's
some things you can change and there's some things you can't. Now,
you know, people do have free wills they can't change,
But that doesn't mean they will, and it doesn't mean
you have control over the ability to change. And it
doesn't mean it's just a question of the kind of

(01:13:27):
arguments or more money or more marketing or whatever. We're
doing the best that we can and if we manage
to change. But it's not a failure of the philosophy
at all, because the philosophy completely completely predicts this. Could
argue it's the failure of the movement maybe, but you know,

(01:13:49):
one of the things that I find unhelpful due to
Bunny is he's saying stuff like this but not actually
saying okay, but offering an alternative what should be done?
Is there something that could change that I wish I knew, Michael,

(01:14:12):
is the concept of a protected class legitimate law. If
you assault somebody over sixty is an automatic felony regardless
of the degree of harm done because they're vulnerable, they
were a vulnerable population group. Or should objective law only
go by damage? Yeah, I don't know what a protected
class is. I don't think they should be protected classes.

(01:14:35):
I mean certainly you could. You could have. You could
easily have in the law and in sentencing the idea
that you know, if you attack a child, a helpless child,
again to some extent at the margin, that is worse
than attacking a grown adult. If you attack an eighty

(01:14:58):
year old who can't defend themselves, that's worse than attacking
a twenty five year old. You don't need the concept
of protected class and that you can deal with it
on a case by case basis. It's a it's a
you know, if somebody was assaulted, how bad, what is
the damage? And uh, you know, to what extent was

(01:15:21):
it should the perpetrator expected that the damage would be
thus given the age of the person, or something like that.
You could you could you know, you could create you
could come up with a rational explanation for why sentencing
of somebody attacking an eight year old is should be
higher than sentencing of attacking somebody younger. But the whole

(01:15:43):
protected class, which then goes into race and goes into
other things I suspect is illegitimate. But no, it would
be an interesting question to ask some of out lawyers
and some of our legal experts, right, a bunch of
twenty need dollar questions. So let's go down and do these. Andrew,

(01:16:07):
what do you think is the price paid by society
in depriving moral credit to the strong, rational, and successful
in favor of pity for the week? I don't know
what price paid by society means? We got to get

(01:16:29):
rid among ourselves of collectivistic language. Society doesn't pay a price.
Society doesn't pay a price. So you pay a price.

(01:16:55):
Individuals pay price. And the price we pay as individuals is,
you know, fewer innovators, fewer successful individuals, less innovation, to
enjoy less progress, slow economic growth, less income, more poverty,

(01:17:18):
more employment, less you have security, on and on and on,
all the benefits you get from business, and now there's
less of it because of not giving the successful them
all credit they deserve. Because this distance sienti advises certain

(01:17:40):
people from doing it. It, this incentivises certain people from
going the next step. But let's get rid of the
price paid by society language just not useful price paid
by you as an individual ian. How can you get
someone to get the relevance to a fictional character like Rock?

(01:18:05):
I find people just get upset or confused by characters
than analyzing them objectively. God, you know, I don't know who,
but I don't know who these people are. But faced
with Rock, you know, just to ask them questions about

(01:18:27):
somebody like Rock, Well, what do you think of him? Oh?
I'm really upset by his character? Why? What is it
that he does? What are the principles by which he lives?
Do you find those principles offensive? What is it about
his character that defends you? What? You know? You've got
to lead them on with questions. That's how you get

(01:18:48):
them to think about it. To analyze it objectively is
to use questions to guide them. Right and but you
also have to accept that some people find a character
like Rock or Ironran's other characters as intimidating, as a

(01:19:09):
repudiation over their own life and their own character, and
they just don't want to go there. They don't want
to go there. It's not pleasant for them, so they
avoid it. But the more honest ones, if you prod them,
if you ask questions, if you force them to actually
discuss it and think about it and verbalize whatever it

(01:19:33):
is there thinking, I think that would that is the
best way to get them, if they're honest on a
path to understanding. Catherine says, I will be. I will
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(01:19:56):
there a discount code for this event as well? Yes?
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dot com. Jason, a debate opponent, defines capitalism as inevitable

(01:20:18):
concentrating wealth into monopolies the strict free trade, pointing to Google,
Microsoft and Amazon as examples. Why do people conclude this,
and what's the best response. God, I think they concluded
because that's all they know, and it's what their teachers

(01:20:39):
and professors and the culture has oriented them towards. They
can only see the problem, and for some reason, they
see these large corporations as problems, and they've been told
over and over again that they are problems. I don't
think there's any objective reason why they should conclude this.
There's none, zero, It doesn't exist. I mean, I think

(01:21:03):
the best response is to ask them what problem Google,
Microsoft and Amazon represent And whether Google, Microsoft and Amazon,
as a consequence of their size, are they know new startups?
Is bench capitalists not funding anything, particularly when it comes

(01:21:24):
to Google and Microsoft, Is AI not going to be
a challenge to them? And if you look at all
of the so called monopolies in history, were they not
all challenged in there? Did they not all face competition?
It's just factually wrong. It's just factually nonsense. And you
just have to show them factually that it doesn't stand

(01:21:46):
up to scrutiny, and then make the case that the
only reason people attack Microsoft and Google and Amazon and
standard oil and a core steel, core aluminum and all
of that is because they're successful. Right, So you've got
to reject the whole framing of monopolies. These are nominopolies.

(01:22:08):
None of them are. They all face competition where they're
actual or potential. None of them behave like what our
economists teach us monopoly should do. So monopolies can only
exist because of the state, if they're granted monopoly power,
and we don't. The only monopoly we have in the

(01:22:28):
US is medicare in the post office, and you know,
some government entities, but there's no monopoly in the private sector.
Just doesn't exist. Can't exist even if it's very very
very big and very very dominant, it always faces competition.

(01:22:50):
Jennifer has a quote from Neil put quote. Know your
place in life is where you ought to be. Don't
don't let them tell you that you owe it to all.
Don't let them tell you you owe it all to me.
Keep on looking forward. No use in looking round. Hold

(01:23:14):
your head above the cloud the crowd. Don't let them
bring you down. That's good, right. Know your place in
life is where you ought to be. Don't let them
tell you that you owe it all to me. Keep
on looking forward. No use in looking around. Hold your
head above the crowd, don't let them bring you down.

(01:23:37):
I mean, I could quibble with some of the lyrics,
like looking around. You actually always want to look around
because you want to see what other options they are,
so just in case, you know, so that you can
constantly improve. That's my aunt equibble. But good stuff, good stuff,
hop A Campbell Part one, and then I'll have to

(01:23:59):
go look for part two. Uh. Techo coast and said
Ben shapiroses Israel as an Ethno state while simultaneously seeing
America as an economic zone. Translation, America needs to become
a white Ethno state in order to compete with the Jews.
Where is Hupper Campbell is Part two? Yeah? I mean

(01:24:20):
you put put one in the above twenty category, and
you put put two in some other category, and then
it's hard for me to find the part two. It's
not it's there. It is part two. And so we
need to abolish capitalism. Five to ten year years ago,
no major public commentator could get away with such comings. Absolutely.

(01:24:43):
I mean, it's not even about abolish capitalism. It's about
just the sheer racism and anti semitism that Techo Costa expresses,
which I don't think were acceptable. Not that long ago,
you just couldn't talk like this, and good. You shouldn't
be able to talk like this. I mean, you should
be able to legally, but you shouldn't be able to culturally. Socially.
It should be unacceptable, but it's exactly right. I mean,

(01:25:07):
Tucker Caulson lies about Israel, lies about American support for Israel,
lies about Ben Shapiro. I mean, I have to say,
Ben Shapiro has come out of all of this strife
a hero, a good guy. I mean, I'm pretty down.
I was pretty down on Ben Shapiro, and now I'm
back in his corner because he stood up to these

(01:25:28):
bastards in a positive way and has called them evil,
which is incredibly good. Might even be waking up to
how bad Trump is, or being willing to admit what
he already knew about how bad Trump is. But Tucker
Carlson is a complete and utter racist collectivist and anti

(01:25:53):
Semitic collectivist. But he's a collectivist, so he hates He
hates capitalism, and therefore he's not going to like socialism,
so he's more inclined towards some kind of elitist fascist
type politics. Whether he recognizes it or not. This is
why he's so he finds Putin and Russia so appealing

(01:26:16):
because it is that kind of elitist, fascist type of
government that Russia has, Thank you, Harper, Michael. Will Americans
tolerate a catastrophic decline in living standards? Can characters like
Mamdani only talk to talk? They eventually have to walk
back this statism like Trump is doing with tariffs. I mean,

(01:26:39):
Americans won't tolerate it, But the question is will they
know what to do about it? Will they know how
to fix it? Right now? Okay, we know Tariff's heard
our living standards, so roll back Tariff's costs will go down.
Living standards are a little bit better. But I mean,
we know rank control is bad, so Ma'm Donny's going

(01:27:03):
to try more of it, and then what will happen?
Will we know then and try to unwind it? So
it's not obvious that we will continue to no understand
learn what actually brings about lower living standard and what
will increase them. So we might not like it, we
might not tolerate it, but the solution to there might

(01:27:26):
be in some future, not in the short run, but
in the future. A swing between socialism to fascism, to
socialism to fascism, keep looking for alternatives, but all the
alternatives are causing a decline in living standards, and there
might be no room for free markets because freedom individualism

(01:27:47):
will be seen as so morally offensive that nobody will
embrace it. And this is the sension which morale the
ultimately Trump's economics and Trump's living standards now ultimately long term,
as we saw even with a Bilian wall and communism. Yeah,

(01:28:10):
people will reject authoritarianism. People will reject not being able
to live their lives, and that I think will happen.
And that's why the dock ages won't look like past
doc ages. It won't be a complete annihilation, I don't think,
because there's too much memory and too much knowledge of

(01:28:34):
how freedom, at least some level of freedom feels like
we're not starting from scratch in terms of that knowledge,
and there's too much. Again, it's a global phenomena. There
might be too many counterexamples. Will the whole world become fascists,
the whole world becomes socialist or just us and then
we can see how other countries are doing better. So

(01:28:56):
it's going to be very difficult difficulty. It won't be
like the Christian Dark Ages or even the Muslim Dark
Ages in terms of what the common person knows is
possible and what they can see out there is happening
in the rest of the world. That is my hopeful James.

(01:29:16):
Also Part one and two, Part one, Mamdanni is calling
for boycott of Stobucks. This is one of the problems
of Trump phenomena. Saying outrageous stuff way outside the wheelhouse
of what a politician should say has been normalized by
Trump in guns not something else. Now, other politicians, including leftists,

(01:29:39):
will blurred out wild things that are irresponsible of someone
wielding force to say. I mean absolutely, the culture is
going to deteriorate. The culture of politics is going to deteriorate.
They're all emboldened by Trump to be able to say
whatever the hell they want to say. They are they
are unintimate, dated. Uh, there's no there's no acceptable, there's

(01:30:05):
no kind of barrier, there's no there's no anything to
stop them. Right. So yes, But but you know, politiciansn't
be saying ogious things forever. Uh. Trump has just made

(01:30:26):
it more so. It's not that he invented it. And uh,
I think things are gonna get worse. Politics is gonna
get worse. Politics is gonna get worse. There's no doubt
on both parties because they're feed off of each other,

(01:30:47):
and as they feed off of each other, they're makeing.
It's just like Obama did a lot of executive voters
or no Bush, Bush Junior did a lot of executive orders.
Obama did even more executive voters, and Trump did even
more executive voters, and then Biden did executi votes, and
then Trump too, like blows executive voters out of the water.
He's done more executive voters than all of them combined.

(01:31:07):
I think because what they hell, the standard of moderating
executive power is gone. So now everything's ago and you'll
see deterioration in every dimension of political politics because of Trump,
and of course because of what led to the existence
of Trump. All Right, Michael, who is more socialist Mamdani

(01:31:35):
or Trump? Mam Donnie wants a bunch of government, big
spending programs. Trump has the government take ownership private companies,
while both a status bruts. Who's most socialists? You know,
it's hard to tell. Mamdanni probably is more socialists. If
Mamdanni was president, he would probably do even more socialist.
Remember m'm donnie was running for mayor of a city,

(01:31:57):
not exactly giving him a lot of power. It's not
like he can confiscate private businesses or take a share
in Intel. What if mc donny was running for president,
I think he would be even more socialist than Trump.
They're both, as you say, brutes. And Trump might be
worse than mum donni for a variety of the reasons
of a wall, primarily because he wraps himself in the

(01:32:19):
flag and potends he's in America first. But you know,
mum donnie is is going to be more committed. Trump
is not committed to anything other than his own emotions,
and you know, other than his own emotions, his own whims,

(01:32:45):
his own power lust, his own lust for whatever. Mum
Donnie's more ideological and more consistently a socialist. Andrew, individualism
is good, It's true, good, sexy. Powerful. Collectivism is dark
force that provides a fleeing feeling of safety from terror.

(01:33:07):
It's popularity is possibly due to lack of advocacy for individualism.
It's on our subjectives. I mean, maybe you know again,
I think you guys oversimplify this. Its popularity is due
to altruism. Its popularity is due to an educational system

(01:33:28):
that teaches kids not the thing, but to remote to
elevate feeling above all else. So collectivism in the culture
is the default. So again I don't think it's on
us in a sense of our failure. I don't view
that at all. It's we have to be objective about

(01:33:50):
the kind of culture we face, the kind of obstacles
we face, And we face the culture that elevates emotions
above reason, that rejects and demonizes egoism, and then embraces
in epistemology of kind of mysticism, whether they left or right,
and a morality of altruism, and again pure emotionalism, through

(01:34:14):
and through, through and through. So we can there are
a lot of people out there you can be the
best advocate of in the world of individualism until you're
blow in the face and it doesn't move them one
way or the other because they're so thoroughly you know,
it's not brainwashed, but they're so thoroughly they have so

(01:34:39):
thoroughly embraced mysticism, emotionalism, collectivism, altruism, it's very, very hard
to dislodge that. You know what did the just or say,
give me your child till the age of five, and
I have them for the rest of their lives or
something like that. Right, the kind of tomology, the kind

(01:35:00):
of morality you teach young kids, it's very difficult to
undo later, very difficult to do. And the kind of
power the culture has on those kids with the ideas
that they're exposed to, it's very hard to undo. Andrews says,
I once asked you what ran meant by cynicism is naive?

(01:35:23):
You said you didn't know. I think she meant values
are real and a generalized doubt that values can be
attained is very false the point of obliviousness, comments well,
I mean it depends on what you mean by naive.
I'm not sure what she meant by naive. I agree
with you that she meant values are real and in

(01:35:44):
a sense cannot be avoided. And maybe that's what the
naivete is. The naivet is about. They cannot be avoided.
Life requires values one way another life requires values, and
life requires certainty. It requires knowledge and cynicism. You can
be cynical, but you can't live a life as a

(01:36:06):
cynic At the end of the day you have to pursue.
At the end of the day, you're going to value
at the end of the day. Your life requires you
to do certain things, and if you don't do it,
you die. I think that's what you mean, Benave that
you can state it. You can, you can try to
hold it, but it's so opposite of reality that you

(01:36:28):
can't really live it, can't really live it that every
everything that you do on a day to day basis
requires you not to be a cynic. Jennifer says, what

(01:36:48):
if look around Neil didn't mean looking around at reality,
which you should always do, of course, but looking around
for approval from others. Would that make more sense? Yeah,
it's just not clear from that particular paragraph. But yeah,
absolutely not look around for approval of others and not
look around for how others are doing, even to compare

(01:37:08):
yourself to others in any kind of way. But if
you know it comes it can come across too much
as look around to see what other options and what
else is available, rather than But yes, you can certainly
view look around as a negative if you create the
right context for it. Thank you, Jennifer. All right, we've

(01:37:31):
got a bunch of five dollars and two dollars and
ten dollars questions. So let's go with these fleshing they
achieved nothing because we told them we are all winners
no matter the actual results. How can we fix that now? Yeah,
I mean, I think that's right. That's part of the
destruction of self esteem. It's part of many things. It's

(01:37:53):
not the only thing. That many reasons why they've achieved nothing.
We didn't teach them to think. We told them to emote.
We encourage them to be mystical. We encourage altruism, we
courage collectivism. So lots of things. One of them, one
of the most devastating ones, was everybody gets a ribbon.
Whether you achieve or you don't achieve, you get a ribbon.

(01:38:15):
And how do you fix that? Now? You have to
slap in them face. Intellectually, you have to basically tell
them how wrong they are. You have to present something positive.
You have to encourage them to go out and seek
values and feel what it's like to actually achieve something.

(01:38:37):
But noe that A lot of these people do achieve stuff.
They get good grades in school, they gain knowledge, they
go out and start companies. They might even become rich.
One day. It's not the lack of achievement that is
the problem. It's the lack of ability to patch yourself
on a bag, to accept that achievement, to recognize that

(01:38:59):
it's you, and to recognize that as the essence of
what life is about those kind of achievements. Oh, we've
got a socialist I see in the chats. Ask a question,
make a comment in the super chat. Happy to respond, Alessandra,

(01:39:23):
what are some examples of egoist life purposes? How can
each of us find our own? Well? First, the egoist
like purpose that is universal is happiness, success with living, flourishing.
So those abstractions, now you might say, how do you

(01:39:44):
how do you achieve that? Well, that requires the creation
of a higherch of values thatuire is actually thinking about,
what does your life actually require? And and what are
you excited about? What are you passionate about? What do
you care about? Given what your life requires? And of
course central to uh a like purpose is going to

(01:40:08):
be a career. And each one of us has our
own career. But it's the kind of career that is universal,
that is something that challenges you, something you're willing to
dedicate real thought to, something that you you're really you're
going to dedicate passion and time and effort and really
work through it that you think through that you pursue

(01:40:30):
over a long term. But that's that's a central purposes,
not doesn't compose your entire purpose. You gotta you gotta
find somebody to love. We're not all going to fall
in love with the same person, which is good. So
putting the effort into doing that and and seeking it
out and finding it, you know. So, so doing the

(01:40:56):
things uh that are within using reason, using your rational mind,
finding the things that are of value to you, discovering
those and creating a hierarchy of those more important to
less important, and pursuing the more important ones. That's an
egoistic life. That's an egoistic life. Purpose. I want to

(01:41:18):
be happy, and the way to be happy is to
do these things. Find a career, find people I love,
you know, and find ways to manifest my life in
this reality, manifest myself and flourish, pursue art, and pursue
the things that really bring me joy and bring me
long term happiness, assuming they're rational, assuming they really are

(01:41:43):
pro life. Paul says, what do you think of phasing
our pennies. I'm all for phasing our pennies. I mean,
they're just a hassle. They sit in your pocket, they
don't make any defense inters of uh cost of living
or anything like that, So get rid of them. I mean,

(01:42:03):
what do we need them for. They're just they're just
a hassle, you know. And and to the extent that
we still use physical money their hassle, and to the
extent that then our physical money. I don't know, it's
it's not It doesn't seem necessary to me to have
everything to the hundredths of a dollar rather than a

(01:42:24):
tenth of a dollar. I don't see your email, Paul.
I don't know where you sent it, but I don't
see it. Email is not working. Maybe let me check
out my phone. If I see it on my phone,
where did you send it to? You send it to

(01:42:45):
you run at yourn bookshow dot com. I don't think
you did. Let me see if it's in the junk folder. Uh, alright,

(01:43:52):
let's see I I I still don't have the Uh.
I still don't have it, and I don't see it
in my Wait a minute, let me check the junk folder.
Junk folder. No, nothing, nothing, Paul. Sorry, I don't know.
Maybe something's wrong with my email. All right, let's see,

(01:44:14):
uh boons, do you think Leonard's did hypots? This is
coming true? Yes, I was thinking it made sense and
that was a direction. Uh, we were heading in. It's
just a question of the time scale and whether we
can prevent it. It seems to be accelerating, and it
seems to be coming through all the peak conditions Leonard

(01:44:35):
placed on. It seemed to be manifesting. Uh deep out
with Diego when they are I allow Fortnite skins. I
want to run around as I ran Lennapeakff, You and Rosie.
I have no idea what you're talking about, and I'm
not sure I want to know what you're talking about.
So I don't know. Steve and Stephen Katz, have you

(01:45:00):
hood of the asylum asylum corporate agreement with on doers?
They might not be any private asylum attorneys in the
US if it gets enforced. I have not. I have not.
I'll have to check this out and find out what
is what it is, so just copying pasting, all right,

(01:45:28):
all right, thanks Steven. Sorry I don't have a comment
because I don't know what it is. Sounds spooky, all right, John,
John always with his uh yeah. Anyway, Charles Maury thinks
the high IQ of as Kanazi Jews has a genetic component.
Is he a tribalist? I believe we he's of English

(01:45:50):
and Dutch descent. I'm sure it has a genetic component.
A composition of our brain has a genetic component. How
big that is, it's hard to tell. They all have
genetic compon but IQ is overrated as being of any
kind of importance. Group I q's are stupid because I
know a lot of stupid Ashkenazi Jews, really really dumb ones.

(01:46:11):
And it doesn't matter that Ashinizi Jews group have a
high one, because there's some who have stupid and I
only deal with individuals. I don't deal with groups. And yeah,
Charles Marie unquestionably has a collectivistic streak to him, There's
no question about that. And it's no accident by the
way that he has just announced that he is taking

(01:46:32):
religion much much more seriously, that he has become becoming
much more religious. I think in the last few months
he's written about this. So that doesn't surprise me, because
as much as he presented himself as a rationalist and
as an individualist. There's science. Clearly, much of the science
that he has produced, most of the books that he's written,

(01:46:56):
ultimately buy into collectivistic premise. Tribalism is a particularly nasty
form of collectivism. I prefer to call him a collectivist
rather than a tribalist, which which you know, I think
he I think he is. You take any talk of his,
and you take any kind of book of his, and
you can find significant collectivistic elements within it. And I

(01:47:17):
think it's you know, I think that probably gets worse
over time, and it's what ultimately ultimately you come. You
come to religion because you need a crutch for it. Though. Anyway,
my interpretation, so, yeah, definitely a collector. Definitely a strong
streak of collectivism in Charles Murray. I don't think that's controversial.

(01:47:41):
Nachavijago with them. Socialism begins with envy, moves on to violence,
ends with the starvation. Yeah, I think that's all right.
I mean, I think it's a little anti intellectual to
say envy. Sometimes it begins with theory, it begins with abstractions,
begins with a philosophy or a view of the world.

(01:48:03):
It definitely moves into violence, and it definitely ends with starvation.
But it might start not from envy, but some not
from a psychological cause, but a theoretical cause. A lot
of socialists happened to be rich, I think happened to
me pretty well off, so not in a position where

(01:48:24):
they're envying somebody else, but in a position where they're
just rotten intellectually. Linda says, A great show few for
my soul. Thank you, Thank you, Linda. I appreciate the support, Clark.
Most professional intellectuals today are simply over educated layabouts who
look at something being run successfully in the real world

(01:48:46):
and attempt to explain why it does not work in theory.
I don't think that's true. I think you're over simplifying
and too harsh, you know. I think in essense you're
too easy on them and too harsh on them. Most
professional intellectuals take evil ideology seriously because, to some extent

(01:49:08):
most of them, that is the primary exposure that they've had. Plus,
the only way to get ahead in places like akademia
in the humanities is if you have an evil ideology,
say's a built in and your professor's all holding the
same evil ideology. So it's not that they're just sitting
around and they're trying to know. They actually believe in

(01:49:28):
the stuff, and what they believe is really awful, and
they believe it for a variety of reasons, to fit in,
to advance in academia, and because they can't imagine anything different,
because they evade and they're corrupt. So I think they're
worse than the way you project them. Roland, did you

(01:49:53):
get to do some sight seeing an SFO Any favorite
places you left to visit? I did not. It was
a really quick in and out. I love Golden Gate
Park and uh, I love the Golden gate Bridge and
in the whole area where you can see the Golden
Gate Bridge. I love just the views you get from
a variety of different high you know, locations that are

(01:50:13):
high up. I had a pretty I had a good
view for my hotel. The Presidio is beautiful. The Presidio
is beautiful. I mean, there are a lot of lots
and lots and lots and lots of beautiful places in
San Francisco, one of the most beautiful cities in the world.
Michael says Bencher is turning on Trump more and more publicly.

(01:50:35):
He's realizing that Trump phenomena is destroying the conservative movement
and churning out anti Semwich like mad I have not
seen him turning on Trump, but I don't see I
don't follow up Ben Shapiro. So I believe you, and
and good good for Ben Shapia, And I think it's
absolutely right. As I said years ago, the descent of
the right is a consequence. It's a cause and an

(01:50:59):
effect of Donald Trump. Donald Trump reinforces the worst elements
on the right, and the more he does and the
more he gets re elected, the more embold than they become,
and the more he gives them kind of a thumbs
up and a wink and and so on, the more
they get involved and the more they get strong. So yeah,

(01:51:19):
Trump is the destroyer of the Republican Party, the destroyer
of the right. And I've been saying it for nine years. Finally, finally,
maybe some other people are figuring this out about time.
I like numbers, can only people to outviews care about politics? No,
everybody cares about politics. My point was the people without

(01:51:43):
views care less about politics, because then that that interesting
controlling other people and the power that comes from politics.
So I'm not exactly what you mean by the question, Clark.
Part one. I had a debate discussion was some European
high school and university students. And while it, while it
is incredibly refreshing how knowledgeable and intellectual they are compared

(01:52:05):
to Americans, the bigant passion of their altruism is so depressing.
They don't hold it implicitly like Americans do. They promote
it proudly on a conceptual level. Yeah. I think that's right.
It's it's it's everywhere. They completely internalize that. In America,
you still have that American sense of life fighting against it.
You still have a basic individualistic, basic individualistic, you know,

(01:52:35):
kind of undertone to America. It's none of that exists
in Europe. And what you get is the unbridled, pure
just just what do you call it? Vitriol of altruism
in Europe. It's sad. It shows you what can happen

(01:52:57):
when you get these kids and you you you you
kind of have them when they're very young. All right,
you know, because I mentioned that, I'm just going to
skip ahead to this obnoxious question. John says, what is

(01:53:21):
your source for the led Jessuit claim? Give me X
years as usual? You're making stuff up. So as usual
I'm have one hundred percent correct. I missed the number
of years, but you put XO. I assume you're not
going to hold me to the number of years, John,
But as usual, you are wrong, John, and I'm right.

(01:53:42):
And what I do on my show is you know,
ninety five percent facts, and yes I do make mistakes
once in a while. But here's the direct quote. And
this is the quote from the founder of the Jessic Brotherhood.
What was his name, uh Loola. This is from Loyola,

(01:54:03):
the founder of the Jesuit order. Give me a child
till he is seven years old, and I will show
you the man. In other words, in those seven years,
I can I know what kind of you know, based
on what I do with him in the seven years,
I can shape the kind of man he will be.

(01:54:23):
So my quote is not exactly right, but it's one
hundred percent consistent with the quote from Loyola. And by
the way, if you just google that, as I did
when I saw your question come through, you would find it.
It's not it's not that where uh you know, it's
all over Google quote by Jessert Maxim give me a

(01:54:46):
child for the first give me a child for the
first seven years, and I'll give you the man that
is a jessert maxim So attributed to Loola. Yeah, I mean,
I mean, I've got a full page in many pages
about this, so not that hard to discover that as

(01:55:08):
usual as usual, I am right. So you guys should
should be a little bit more hesitant before telling me
that I'm full of it. You should at least google
what I say, and you know, just not that Google's
always right, but it's better than you know than just
assume me I'm wrong. Matt says, completely consistent with what

(01:55:32):
I just said. No one spits straight facts for an
hour like you're on. Actually it's almost two hours. Thank you,
Matt Michael. We'll see if John comes back and apologizes.
What Ben Shapiro, have you on to discuss the corecauson?
And then you write, would say, would you work for

(01:55:54):
the Daily Wire? If he allowed you to say whatever
you want? I would approach Ben about it. Yeah, I
would definitely go in the show. Would he have me?
Probably not. I've approached him in the past, like after
Clober seventh, I said, Hey, what about if I come
on the show to talk about Israel? And he never
you respawned about something else, but he he oh. I
thanked him for his position in Israel and said would

(01:56:15):
he have me on to talk about it? And he
thanked me for thanking him, but not did not invite
me to come on. So I doubt that he'll come on.
And he's never going to have me on a daily wire.
I mean, he is a religious collector. He is a
religious ultimately and has a collectivistic streak, there's no question.
And look who he has on on, you know, Matt

(01:56:36):
walshon and and what's his name knows would would resign immediately.
He would destroy the Daily Wire and his audience would flee.
Ben Shapier's audience would flee. They don't want to hear me.
What makes people afraid of selfishness? Not preachers, professors of philosophers,

(01:56:58):
real people who maybe honestly mistaken well their education, Their mothers,
their their preachers, their philosophers, their teachers, everybody who they've
ever interacted with, their their own ideas. They've been told
over and over and over and over again how evil

(01:57:18):
selfishness is and that it causes you to be a lying,
cheating soob. So yeah, it's it's their education, their education,
and and of course the fact that they feel unequipped
to deal with self interest, to deal with their own lives.

(01:57:42):
So the fact that then ill equipped, they don't they
have not been taught how to use their mind, and
the fact that they've been told over and over and
over again how evil they would be if they adopted
such a moral code. Linda says, because they ought would
love to be a sponsor. We can so I said previously,
we should talk about it, Paul, I'm having trouble with

(01:58:06):
the super chat. It won't Oh yeah, let me see
if I got your Let me see if I got
your question. This. Okay, here's post question. Do you have
any comment to make to Harriman's statement. I wonder what
Ironran would think of Iran Institute's fight for the communism
of the Left from AIRI Facebook from November three, other

(01:58:27):
than he's a pathetic fool, pathetic in mall, weak, incompetent fool. No,
not really. As I said, there will be a day
of reckoning. I'm just not quite ready for that. There

(01:58:51):
will be a day reckoning, And then I'll tell you
what I think of Dave Hammond and my history with
Dave and his history, but framed to call AIRII communists.
It's just stupid. He's dumb. He's made himself dumb. He
has a mind that he stopped using a while back,
and uh, and he has made himself stupid and dumb.

(01:59:12):
You know, he's a nine to eleven conspiracy theorist. He's
adorra of Donald Trump now just a supporter, an adora
of Donald Trump. And he he like others. Basically, anybody
who doesn't agree with Donald Trump is a communist. That
is it. Donald Trump is the stand of truth. And

(01:59:33):
you know what would iron Man think of a mindless
of a mindless ignoramous like like Dave Harmon And you
could quote me on that, right, Michael, After Mom, Donnie,
will New York City do an overreaction like they did
by electing Woody Giuliani. I don't think Woody Giuliani was overreacted.

(01:59:58):
Giuliani was a world class I mean that's an overreaction.
Giuliani was an horrible, awful, disgusting human being that was
elected mayor of New York because because he went after
Wall Street and he and he tried to try to

(02:00:20):
get as many people in Wall Street put in jail
and he was an incredibly destructive And you know, the
main good thing that Giuliani did in New York is
he is he chose a good chief of police. Beyond that,
Giuliani uh was acted like a fascist mayor of New York,

(02:00:43):
violating people's property rights, rezoning people out of out of
their businesses. He was. He was not a good man.
He's not a good he's not a good man. He's
not a good guy. He's not a good human being.
So I hope we do much better than Wouldy Giuliani.
I am very anti Rooty. If you haven't figured that out,

(02:01:04):
somebody says Jamie Diamond from may Yeah, Jamie Down would
be good. Jamie Down for president, Michael. If you look
at the numbers, mam, Donnie didn't win by a huge margin.
I mean he he got over fifty percent, fifty point
five or something like that. What's his name, Como got
forty forty one. That's a big margin. Now, it's not

(02:01:27):
as big as past elections. Usually the Democrat wins by
a massive margin, right, the Democrat widge seventy to thirty
or something. But in this case, you had two Democrats running.
Given that you had two Democrats running. Ma'm donny won
by a good margin, good margin if he don't only

(02:01:48):
against the Republican it wouldn't but by much larger margin.
Vitky did you put on Jena Golin's work to the
founders at the Christianity de bait? I think she's a
great value in a way for them to see the
value of end Yeah, I mean I think she is
a great value. I don't think she needs me to

(02:02:08):
promote herself to founders. But no, I didn't. I didn't
think of it good kind of good at a idea.
If I go there again, I will I will take
note of that debait was on Christianities. It never really
came up part one. This is not you have a
joggle with him in guns and guns, jumps and steel.

(02:02:28):
The author argues the reason Africa didn't develop like the
other continents is because Africa has no rivers running through it,
which may trade almost impossible, while philosophical ideas are primary
to society's development. Is there some truth to this argument?
You know, I just don't know, right. There are no

(02:02:48):
rivers running through Greece, but I guess Greece as a coast,
so does Africa. Africa much of Africa as coast. They
could have they could have sailed to different places around
the world in boats. But it is true that if
you look at early civilizations, early civilizations, they developed around rivers.

(02:03:09):
So the Nile, that's Africa, by the way, So we
have to remember Africa is the birth of modern civilization
or some civilizations the Nile. So you had Egyptian civilizations,
do you Euphradus which is where Mesopotamian civilizations arose. There
was a very thriving civilization in Central Asia. There's a

(02:03:30):
number of rivers there. So look, rivers are important and
give you access to sea and give you access to trade,
and give you access to interaction with other people. I
think there's something to be said about Africa's isolation as
a cause for its lack of development, but I don't
know enough about the time frame when it happened. When

(02:03:51):
did they When did people? We all came from Africa,
so when when did we move out of Africa? All
of that is uh. I just don't know enough about it.
But rivers are important, and all you have to do
is look at history and you can see it. Access
to other civilizations, they possibly the ability to trade, the

(02:04:14):
ability to trade, not just in physical goods, but in
ideas is crucial. And yeah, I have no explanation really
for I don't know, but Rivers is not crazy. And
remember the beginning of a civilization is pre ideas. Why

(02:04:37):
does some civilization even develop ideas? And the first ideas,
real ideas that comes from that comes from Greece, you know,
So why Greece? Why not Egypt? Why not a seentertainment?

(02:04:58):
Why not China? White Greece. I don't know that there
is an explanation, right, So you know, I think to
develop trade is crucial, and you have to have access
to trade. You have to have the ability to trade again,

(02:05:20):
trade not just in goods but also in ideas, particularly
in a world where all you have around you is
a tribe. But I think some of it is just accident.
You know, certain types of geniuses were born at a
certain point in time in Greece and not somewhere else, right,

(02:05:43):
But real philosophical ideas come from from Greece. Other civilizations
had certain aspects of math, and say Sumerian said math, Yeah,
I mean they even had law, what's his name's Lawmawabi's
laws in Mesopotamia, Indian civilization In Chinese civilization had other

(02:06:10):
civilizing aspects, other parts of you know, pieces of the puzzle. Again,
the strongest was in Greece. But why did Africa had none?
Why did North and South America have none? I don't
think we have a clear explanation for any of that.
You know, North and South America have rivers, can't just

(02:06:33):
be rivers. But isolation makes things, makes it difficult to advance.
Whoops and says asked, how long of dark ages before
objectives to send? I have no idea, no even idea
how to even think about it? And I and again,
I'm not sure what a dark ages actually looks like

(02:06:54):
In the modern era? Was the debating effects a film?
Will they be uploaded? Know? And know? If it was
not filmed, it cannot be uploaded? Marius globalization led to
outsourcing a production to lower cost regions. How can you
convince the factor we work it to support zero protectionism? Well,

(02:07:15):
I mean, first, globalization did not lead to outsourcing a
production to lower cost regions. Again, we produce more stuff
today in America than we ever did. Globalization or globalization
and technology ultimately led to the introduction of technology into
factories and less need for human beings. People lost their

(02:07:37):
jobs to manufacturing, not to the Chinese, but to robots
and to mechanization. Now, specific industries were lost, like textile
was lost to Vietnam and bungaledation other places. And the
way to convince workers to support zero protecttionism is to

(02:08:00):
convince them that they're better off doing more productive jobs,
that they will make more money, they stand living will
be higher, their children will not be stuck in manual labor,
but their children will become programmers and be able to
embrace a high tech economy. And beyond that, you have
to convince them that they have no right to stop progress.

(02:08:24):
They have no rights to lower the standard of living
for their fellow Americans or for anybody in for that matter.
Nobody has a right to a job factory because don't
have a right to job. And the whole basis of freedom,
the whole basis of economic progress, the whole basis of liberty,

(02:08:45):
the whole basis of the American system, is that you
do not have a right to force your neighbor to stagnate.
So you know you're gonna lose your job at a factory,
retrain and get a better job. That's what they need

(02:09:09):
to be told. They need to be treated as adults.
Treat as adults and not as children that are dependent.
They need to be told the truth, just like a
lot of people should be told the truth. Now they're
gonna lose their jobs to AI. Better think about retraining, better,

(02:09:31):
think about how to, how to how to do well
in the coming economy. But you have no right to
force me to segonate. Uh Eastern something out Western something.

(02:09:52):
I recently read Radicals for Capitalism, uh The Machinery of
Freedom by by David Freedom Freedom in the Young. He says,
man can go to hell by his own choosing. Is
that where you disagree with an alco capitalism. I don't
understand that capitalism capital capitalize what we can should I

(02:10:14):
don't understand. I don't understand the question. So he says,
man can go to hell by his own choosing. Yes,
I think that's right. He can go to hell right
here on earth by his own choosing. But the problem
is that with an alco capitalism, because there's no system
of protection of individual rights, he can take the rest
of us with him. That is, there's no barriers to

(02:10:35):
the use of force, there's no restrictions on the use
of force. There's no stopping one defense agency from dominating
other defense agencies, taking them over and imposing authoritarianism over
all of us, or just living in a state of
constant fighting. So Thomas, I mean, David Friedman thinks that

(02:10:58):
Somalia is because they have private law. Some tribes have
Sharia law, which is a form of private law. And
I'm going, yeah, no human beings should live under sharia law.
Sharia law is evil, and David say, yeah, they chose
it to who cares well, you know it matters. There
is such a thing as universal universality of good law,

(02:11:21):
and there is such a thing as individual rights. David
Freedman thinks individual rights on nonsense unstilts. So the idea
that rights nonsense unstilts the idea that you know that
you could create, that there's no such thing as individual rights,
that there's no such thing as universal good law. That

(02:11:43):
my neighbor can inflict his stupidity on me, that is unacceptable,
that is I mean, I've written a whole essay on this.
It's on Brian Kaplan's blog, substack whatever it's on, also
on Don Watkins Substact. There's a whole essay of my

(02:12:05):
critique of and caps Why I think in alco capitalism
is wrong, evil, unacceptable. Your republic protects the individual. But
the republic is not an ocha capitalism. There's non alco capitalism.
There's no republics in an oca capitalism, and alco capitalism

(02:12:29):
is whatever. Fight it out. But check out my essay.
It's Don Watkins probably easiest to find. Just put anarchy.
You're on book essay or something like that. And Google,
and you know, I mean, the beauty of Google is God.
How anybody dislikes Google? I don't understand. Now, do you

(02:12:52):
have a jog WITHITHM? These new right channels think the
way to get attention and grow their shows is to
interview Nick Foyantis. There's no excuse of platforming an absolute
lunatic who's detrimental to humanity. Yes, and I don't think
he's a lunatic. I think that's way too generous. He's evil.

(02:13:12):
He's evil, and there's no reason to platform evil badly.
Being able to distinguish between reality and the social realm
is so empowering. You don't need to be liked to survive.
You just need individual rights. Yeah, you need to think
to survive. You need to use your mind to survive.
That's right. Ian. Watching the Q and A from America

(02:13:37):
versus Americans, you mentioned that attacking Venezuela would be in
your best interest. Do you still hold that today? Wow,
I said that. I don't remember that. I don't remember that.
I mean, it would be good in a sense, but

(02:13:58):
only if nobody dies as a consequence. I don't think
it attacking Venitula is. I need to go back and
see what I actually said. But I don't believe that
it justifies, you know, young men's giving up their life
for it. I don't think it justifies the risk of putting,

(02:14:20):
you know, young men at risk. There's no what's the
positive you're gaining. I mean, the oil maybe, but it
just doesn't strike me as important enough. There's plenty of
oil in the United States, not local short of oil.
So I just don't see the point of it. Maybe
at the time because they had nationalized oil, or maybe

(02:14:41):
at the time because ris Balana, the Islamists were We're
training in the in the Jungles. Maybe maybe I was
just wrong back then. Maybe I'm wrong now. I don't know,
but I right now I do not think that putting
American lives at risk to attack Venitula is justified. If
you could do it without that, then yeah, sure. I

(02:15:04):
mean it's an evil regime. It has no rights overthrow it.
It's just a question of does it justify the placing
the lives of Americans at risk? Benjamin Johnsen, I got
a job in a public railway company based on my
experience in the private sector working in innovation. What's your

(02:15:26):
advice for how to deal with a bureaucracy and facilitate
for prosperity things. Look, I don't know that they have advice, right.
I mean, you've got to deal with what you got
to deal. You're not going to it's probably unlikely that
you're going to be able to change the bureaucracy in Norway.

(02:15:47):
You have got to focus on doing a good job.
And you know, it's okay to work in the sense
for a government run railway system because all the railways
a government run and it's a legitimate job to have.
But you just got to do the best job that
you can do, best job that you can do, and

(02:16:15):
you're not going to take on the whole bureacracy by yourself.
I don't know that there's any point Jeffrey, Hey, Jeffrey
Michelin Awards ceremony on this Tuesday in Philadelphia, fingers crossed.
Absolutely so. Jeffrey runs a one Michelin Star restaurant in
New York called Bar Miller, which is exceptional, really really

(02:16:37):
really good omakase and Japanese sushi, and it is phenomenal.
Highly recommend it if you're in New York to go there.
And he has one Michelin Star. The problem of getting
a Mischelin Star is now every year you stress about
am I keeping the star? You know, am I going
to keep the star? And can I get a second star?

(02:17:00):
And you know it's you know, having a restaurant is
a stressful thing, and you know, and having a Mistion
Star not having a Mister Star. Ivan one versus two
versus three have real economic consequences, real economic consequences. Andrew

(02:17:23):
wants to know how we can rig this. I don't know.
You could sign up to be a Michelin Guide restaurant reviewer,
which I think would be a cool job. I would
love to have that job, and then you could bias
the results towards the restaurant you liked. Good luck Jeffy,
you certainly deserve it, so I'm hopeful that you get

(02:17:45):
and I hope you you saw yourself from last year's
Michelin ceremony, there was a documentary about a different restaurant.
It focused on a different restaurant that got its first star,
but in the background you could see Jeffrey getting his
getting called up on stage and getting his first Michelin
star last year. So fingers crossed for h for this year. JPS.

(02:18:15):
In the movie Shane, Shane stops his friend from going
into town to face the evil rancher and his hired gungslinger,
arguing he'd be killed. Was Shane morally justified and using
force to stop him. It's a tough one, but I

(02:18:36):
think in the end of the day, yes, you know
his friend was was going to go. You know, his
friend was going to go, and Shane, it was clear
to Shane that he was going. If he went, he

(02:18:57):
would he would die, He would be killed. He was
no match for the gun slinger. Shane also knew that
he could take care of them, and he was a
match with the gun slinger. And so yes, I think
sometimes as an act of love it can be appropriate
to use physical force to prevent somebody you love from

(02:19:21):
doing something really really really stupid. I wouldn't make that
a strategy, but this is life or death. And notice
that Shane never goes back to his friend, never goes
back to the ranch. He rides off into the sunset,
and partially it's not clear they can be friends again
because he used forced on him. He did use force

(02:19:42):
on him. So it's one of those things that sometimes
have to be done, but not something that you want
to make a habit of. You want to do more
than once. Jeffy says, yes, after we won last year,
we more than doubled our sales. Fantastic. So yeah, let's

(02:20:02):
hope Jeffy keeps the Star at least and that it
goes well. And yeah, so it's when did he say?
It was? Tuesday? Tuesday? Okay, we'll read up on it
tuesday night. On Wednesday, I'll look it up on the
web and see what's happening. Exciting, and all of you

(02:20:25):
should check out. I mean, everybody who's gone, who has
gone based on my recommendation has loved it so and
quite a few people have gone so so, so do
it all right, Lincoln says, just started my rough draft
of my first novel. It's about two romanticized young singers
that get discovered by a record label label but need
to fight the label, trying to control their values and lives.

(02:20:49):
The novel will have, you know, we'll have a lot
of objectivist themes, as the characters take pride in their art,
success and money and stand up for the values despite
external pressure to change. That's great. I mean, be careful
not to be dogmatic and not to be overly preachy.

(02:21:12):
Remember that you're telling a story, and the key is
the story and the values, the values you're talking about.
The objectivest theme should come out through the story more
than through any kind of explicit statements. I mean, Iran
could get away with some statement, but that's hard, really

(02:21:33):
hard for a novelists. So think about it, Andrew. Is
the essential and intellectual value of Greek culture the institution
of reason as the means of intellectual inquiry. Yes, I
think that's right. I think that's the number one value.
I mean there are number of values, but yes, the
idea that one needs to seek truth through reason, that

(02:21:56):
is it. And the truth is possible, the reason isifications.
That is it. Just into another email a boy tisorship.
Linda says, thank you, Linda Lincoln. It's gonna take a
long time for it to be written. I'm expecting it
to be seven hundred ish pages, and obviously being a

(02:22:20):
student limits possible writing time. Good luck, Yeah, all the
best with that. It's that is a big project, Marius.
Is what I think of Calvin Coolidge. Very mixed on
college Coolidge, I mean, he was certainly good on certain
economic issues. It was generally lais affair, generally left alone.

(02:22:40):
He didn't roll back things like antitrust and other regulations
and other laws that infringed in economic liberty, but he
didn't enforce it quite as much, right, so under him
enforcement's law. On the other hand, he was very bad
on tariffs. He raised tariffs t haves already existing, and
he raised them during their ten twenties when he was president.

(02:23:02):
And he was very bad on immigration. He basically was
responsible for the passes in nineteen twenty four immigration law
that basically ended most immigration to the United States. So
how do you want to weigh the bad versus the good?
He was mixed, like most of these, generally better than

(02:23:23):
most economics. But you know, the anti immigration and protas
stuff is really really really bad, all right. Andrews says
there's a connection between reason and honesty, honesty entail seeking
the truth by reason. We can judge Tucker coos and
sopoority because he's been dishonest, in dishonest in choosing not

(02:23:46):
to employ enjoy reason. Thoughts, Yeah, I mean reason requires honesty.
Honesty is about it's only the facts. Well, reason demands
only the facts. Reason demands reality. You face, you only
deal with what's true. Taka evades, he ignores he is.

(02:24:09):
He is clearly dishonest by not being willing to look
at the facts and by presenting us with nonsense, with
you know, non factual bs. The the demon scratching him
is just a manifestation of that. But his whole motus

(02:24:30):
of perandi is subjectivism. There's no objectivity. He's not presenting
us with actual factsy He goes to Russia and shows
the Sagoci store, and it's so delimits the context so
as to evade the entire context and evades what's going on,
as to fool us into thinking that this is somehow

(02:24:50):
representative of something. So yes, dishonesty and reason, I mean
every virtue honestly, being one of them is just another
point of view on rationality, on what it means to
be rational. In this case, only the facts. That's what

(02:25:12):
honesty is and that's what reason requires. All Right, guys,
two and a half hours. Thank you, thank you, thank you.
You guys were very generous today, you know. Thank you,
Thank you Troy especially, I thank you Liam, Thank you
Do the Bunny. Thank you Michael as always. Thank you

(02:25:33):
Andrew for asking a lot of questions. Thank you, guys.
We will see you tomorrow for a news show. I'm
not exactly what time. I think my schedule is a
little missed up tomorrow, so it'll probably be in the evening,
but there will be a show tomorrow. To hang in there,
and there'll be a show Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday. Bye, everybody,

(02:25:54):
see soon, Yeah,

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