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Speaker 1 (00:02):
A lot of the fun principles of.

Speaker 2 (00:09):
And an individual wats This is the show. All right, everybody,
welcome to your own book show. On this Wednesday, December tenth,
we will be reviewing the news again. It never ends.

(00:29):
The news never ends. It's it's quite a job. You know,
every single day there's more news. It never stops. All right. Uh,
let's see, we have a think a full program today
and you know that we should just we should just start. Uh.
The president, President Trump is on the road doing these

(00:55):
mass rallies, which is you know, you're supposed to be
very good at it and people and it gets it
gets people excited, at least it's basic excited. And he's
out there trying to convince American people that his programs,
is economic programs in particular, are working and that this
whole affordability thing, he is the guy who is solving it.
It's actually being solved right now. And uh that that,

(01:17):
you know, stop worrying, be happy. He has the plan.
I mean, things in America are ready unbelievably good, unbelievably
going well.

Speaker 3 (01:29):
Uh, and they're only going to get better.

Speaker 2 (01:30):
We have entered the golden age of American prosperity according
to uh, you know, to to Donald Trump, we've we've
we've brought in hundreds of billions of dollars in tariffs
that that other people are paying, non Americans. Uh. But
but you know, we have to bail out the farmers.

Speaker 3 (01:52):
No big deal. But but yes, And this.

Speaker 2 (01:54):
Whole affordability thing, all the problems, every single problem you
have out there can't a job affordability is high. It
seems like layoffs have really risen, and it's not clear
job creation uh is.

Speaker 3 (02:10):
Matching any problem.

Speaker 2 (02:12):
You can imagine any problem you can, you can dream
up any problem you actually have in real life.

Speaker 3 (02:19):
It's all.

Speaker 2 (02:19):
Don't worry because it's all all of them, every single
one of them a Biden's fault. And you know, Trump's
economic policy is going to kick in any day now.
Any day now, you will see true everything going up. Indeed,
they're already going up. You just don't know because Trump knows.
And and don't worry. You just need to be happy.

(02:42):
And and by the way, by the way, maybe maybe
you need a maybe if for the sake of the nation,
for the sake of America, for the sake of America,
making America great again, maybe you just need to give
up on a few things. I mean, let's let's listen

(03:02):
to the president. Why why what would you want to
hear it secondhanded for me? I mean, maybe you just
have to give up on a few things. Right. From
an economic perspective, Let's listen to what Donald Trump, your president,
my president, sadly has to say.

Speaker 1 (03:19):
We need the one thing you need. You need steal.

Speaker 4 (03:21):
You know, you can give up certain products. You can
give up pencils just under the China policy.

Speaker 5 (03:30):
You know, every child can get thirty seven pencils.

Speaker 1 (03:33):
They only need one or two, you know they don't.

Speaker 2 (03:35):
China policy is the policy where we trade with China
with low tariffs. You don't need thirty seven pencil guys, you.

Speaker 1 (03:41):
Always need you always need steal.

Speaker 5 (03:44):
You don't need thirty seven dollars for your daughter two
or three is nice?

Speaker 2 (03:49):
Yeah, don't worry about the dollars two or three. Uh,
you know, two or three dollars a fine. But but
gold in the in the oval office, we need a
lot of that. Literally, no sound, no sound, Mmm, that's weird.
Let me just try something.

Speaker 1 (04:05):
We need the one thing you need, you need you know.

Speaker 2 (04:08):
You no sound? All right? One second let me see
why there's no sound, should be sound cassta.

Speaker 1 (04:34):
You can give up certain products.

Speaker 2 (04:40):
Very weird. Let me once, Let me just try. Let
me just try the stuff. Now I need I need
the video because otherwise on the podcast you won't get it.
So I need audio.

Speaker 6 (04:54):
Well, it's because a dual studio. It's right there, do studio.
That's right there. All of that is there. I want
to go there. It's picking is it picking me up?
It's not picking me up either. No, it's not picking

(05:17):
me up either. One tooth three, one tooth three?

Speaker 2 (05:24):
Wow?

Speaker 3 (05:24):
How did that happen?

Speaker 2 (05:25):
Sound?

Speaker 3 (05:25):
Now all right?

Speaker 2 (05:29):
Sorry, somehow some button got moved and deleted my sound
and trump sound and everybody sound all right, we'll start over.
We'll start over because now it's good. Uh, now we'll
start over. Okay, here goes. This is uh, this is

(05:52):
Trump telling you what you need and what you don't need.

Speaker 4 (05:57):
We need the one thing you need. You need to
you know, you can give certain products. You can give
up pencils.

Speaker 2 (06:06):
You can give up pencils. Guys.

Speaker 5 (06:07):
Policy you know every child can get thirty seven pencils.

Speaker 1 (06:10):
They only need one or two. You know.

Speaker 3 (06:12):
China policy is trade with China trade with China.

Speaker 2 (06:15):
Where where you you know, you have low tariffs, and
then kids can have thirty seven pencils. But you don't
need thirty seven pencils. You don't need one or two pencils. Really,
they don't need that many, don't need that many. But
he always says trumpet, you always need steal, you always
need steel, right, And of course steel, we always need steel.

(06:35):
So let's make it more expensive by tariffing it, by
putting a tariff on it. And then way it'll be
more expensive. We'll still get what you know, we'll get it,
and our own steal manufacturers will produce it, but at
much higher cost, and all the people using steel will
will have to pay a much higher cost and people
will lose their jobs.

Speaker 3 (06:53):
Or we need steel, We need steel.

Speaker 2 (06:54):
I mean, if we really need to steal, we low
tariffs to zero and the steel would just flood into
the country, plenty of steel. And what else do we
need or don't need? I can tell you what you
don't need.

Speaker 5 (07:05):
You don't need thirty seven dollars for your daughter two
or three is nice, but you don't need thirty seven dollars.

Speaker 2 (07:11):
You don't need thirty seven dollars really. I mean, Trump
is going to tell you how many cause you're gonna
need and how many pens, how many pens. I know
I don't need pencils, but pens I need, but I
don't know how many. I'm eager for Central Plan in
Chief Trump to tell me how many pens I need.
This is this is what some people have said is
the greatest president in American history. You don't need you

(07:34):
don't need pencils. You don't need thirty seven dolls. I
know exactly how many dollars you need. You know what
else is he gonna tell me in terms of what
I need and what I don't need?

Speaker 3 (07:44):
And I'm curious how he's going to determine that.

Speaker 1 (07:48):
But yeah, so we're doing things right. We're right here,
we need.

Speaker 3 (07:55):
So we're doing things right.

Speaker 2 (07:57):
We're doing things right because we're preventing you guys from
getting more pencils than you need. You don't need so
many pencils. Cut it out with the pencils. And of
course this is pure nationalism, pure collectivism. This is the
state needs steel. The state will decide what is needed

(08:17):
and what is not needed. The state will limit your
consumption of the frivolous stuff that I don't know, you
desire for the sake of steel. I mean, this sounds
like every two bid dictator in the world steal. You know, MAO,

(08:38):
send everybody to go make steel. And you know, and
and Stalin one of his great quote achievements was getting
all those factories opening and steel. You know that that's manly.
That is nationalistic. Dolls Who needs dolls? Dolls are like lane,
They're very feminine. And yeah, the nation doesn't need dolls.

(09:00):
The nation needs steal to build weapons. Uh So, yes,
I just don't get you know what I get, I get.

Speaker 3 (09:17):
What the point is.

Speaker 2 (09:18):
The point is this nationalistic is nationalistic perspective. But I
don't get how anybody thinks this is a political strategy.
Now granted, he actually, I think said this on the
campaign trail and he still won. But now, when people
are really hooting, when when when people seem to be hooting,
when the economy is sputtering along not really doing that well,

(09:39):
and when people are you know, there's a lot of
existential angst around the economy. I don't know how Trump
going around the country.

Speaker 3 (09:51):
And telling people.

Speaker 2 (09:53):
You're only gonna have two dollars, no pencils, and I'm
gonna get you a factory job. How does that? How
does that get in votes? I mean, is he telling
basically people because he doesn't strike me as the kind
of president who can do this. But imagine if you
told people something like, yep, guys, I need you to

(10:14):
sacrifice because it's for the greater good. It's for the nation,
it's for steel, it's for Steell. You need to sacrifice
some dolls and some pencils for steel. But it's okay
because I'll get you a manufacturing job. You know, it's
a horrible job, long hours and physically exhausting, but it's
what you wanted. You always want a manufacturing job. I'll
get your manufacturing job. Just sacrifice your dolls and your

(10:36):
pencils and everything will be okay. We'll have steel. I mean,
is that a winning strategy politically? It's a little scary.
If it is a little scary that it is.

Speaker 4 (10:58):
So.

Speaker 2 (11:02):
Yeah, I hope that. I hope people people vote him
out of office for you know, for baby. Maybe he
could be impeached on on on denying people dolls. Maybe
that's it. This is uh, Bernie is excited. Yeah, Bernie,
Bernie should have been Trump's running mate. I mean that

(11:23):
would have united the nation. It would have been a
left right coalition. It would have been perfect. I mean,
the too populist, populist of the left and populist of
the right, the two socialists, the two fascists, whatever you
want to call it, but they are soulmates when it
comes to this kind of stuff.

Speaker 3 (11:39):
Deny people the night, little kids, the dolls, the dolls.

Speaker 2 (11:44):
I never had thirty seven dollars, so I kind of sympathize.
I don't think you guys should have thirty seven dolls. Uh,
it's just not right. It's just not right talk about
stuff that's not right.

Speaker 3 (11:57):
I think.

Speaker 2 (11:57):
I think today, maybe even as we speak, there there
is testimony on Capitol Hill from people I think there
are five people, five people there, but they represent I
think many more people who have been arrested, seized, not
even arrested, seized, kidnapped by ice, by ice. These are

(12:22):
all US citizens. They've been kidnapped, imprisoned for days with
no phone call, no lawyer. And remember these are these
are masked militias, heavily armed and unmarked cause driving up

(12:45):
and dragging people away from their families, away from their jobs,
and sticking them in jail, no warrant, no rest, want
often breaking into homes with no search warrant, or because
they suspect them, suspect them of being illegal immigrants. Immigrants somehow,

(13:07):
the whole idea of illegal immigration means you have to
throw out individual rights. You have to throw out you know,
general rights, you have to throw out habeas corpus, you
have to throw out all the protections that we have
from a police state out when it comes to legal immigration,
it's okay to use tutalitarian police state tactics in order

(13:33):
to in order to achieve your goal. And by the way,
how do they decide who to stop? How do they
decide who to kidnap? Well, I mean the only measure
they have to determine whether somebody is illegal or not
by just perceptual. Perceptually is this skin color? Is this

(13:58):
skin color? I mean the most dangerous can color they
have an America right now is brown. You know, Blacks,
I think assumed to be Americans. Whites assume to be Americans.
Brown your assume to be illegal. And as a consequence,
you know, they'll go out there into the streets, fully armed,

(14:19):
not showing their faces, unmarked cause and literally kidnapped people
of the streets, and people said, no, no, no, that's
not true.

Speaker 3 (14:28):
It's not happening to US citizens.

Speaker 2 (14:31):
But of course it is, and I see stories about
it every single day, and right now in front of Congress,
we've got people under oath testifying that it's happened to them.

Speaker 3 (14:46):
It's happened to.

Speaker 2 (14:47):
Them, because it's happening almost every day, just horrific stories.
And sometimes they're not arrested, but because ultimately somebody shows
them some ID that shows that a person is a

(15:09):
US citizen. But in the meantime, they've been handcuffed, they've
been dragged out of their car, they've been put in
an on my mask van. You don't know what's going
to happen to You don't know where you're going to
be taking, you don't know how long you're going to
be into custody. And luckily, maybe you're traveling with the
spouse who maybe doesn't look like an illegal immigrant, and
they can they can show an ID that gets you

(15:33):
out of the mind. If the ice mobsters are even
willing to take a look. I mean, this is true
authoritarian tactics, This is true police state stuff. If you
believe in freedom, if you believe in liberty right now,
right now, in America, the number one enemy is ice.

(15:58):
If you believe in freedom, if you believe in liberty,
if you believe in individual rights, if you believe in
the constitution of this country, then the number one enemy
is Ice. Yes, illegal immigrants have broken the law. Okay police,

(16:18):
police don't go in with masks, they don't even use
masks and unmilked. You know you're running up people when
they suspect murderers and drug dealers, and many of them
have body cams. That would be something of Ice had
body cams. Right, we basically define a whole category of

(16:39):
people of it having zero rights. But in our Declaration Independence,
it doesn't say all American men are created equal. It
says all men are created equal, and that includes illegal immigrants.
They have rights. Maybe they broke the law. Maybe they
should be punished for baking the law. Maybe that punishment

(17:01):
is deportation. Fine. This way of dealing with it is despicable, horrific,
un American, a violation in my view of the Constitution.
Although I don't think any court will find that, we'll see.

Speaker 3 (17:21):
It's being sued.

Speaker 2 (17:22):
I think the Institute for Justice's taking up one of
the cases of an American citizen that's being captured like this.
You know, I don't think any court will review a
non citizen case, but they will review a case of
a US citizen. And we'll see, we'll see how this
evolves in the courts. But in the meantime, the courts
could take years. And in the meantime, ice is everywhere,

(17:45):
and Americans are cheering. Some Americans are cheering it because
they want to police date. They want to tell Ayianism
as long as somehow they feel like they benefit from it, right,
and you know, as long as they don't have to
give up the yell steal, got to have that steal. Uh.
It's horrific. Uh, it really is horrific. And it really

(18:10):
is horrific that so many people support this. I find
that just and again, one of the greatest presidents in
American history is unleashing this, you know, uh, a fascist Uh,
this fascist police force on us which respects no individual
rights and which respects the rights of nobody and uh,

(18:33):
which you know, it is abusing people left and right.
It's not going after criminals, They're going after hard working
immigrants to this country who are trying to make and
create a.

Speaker 3 (18:45):
Better life for themselves.

Speaker 2 (18:47):
That now is a source of resentment even for some
people who call themselves objectivists. Talk about people to despise
is immigrants. I'm going to show you a clip of
Stephen Miller, right, so you know one of the one

(19:08):
of the problems in America today is lowering test scores
and test scores going going down. You know, Stephen Miller,
in my view, is one of the most despicable people
on the planet.

Speaker 3 (19:21):
I mean he is.

Speaker 2 (19:22):
He is in my view, a hate filled uh you know,
I think fascist. If if he had his weight, he
would He has no respect for individual rights, zero zilch
now for Americans who disagree with him, and not for
uh not, and certainly not for immigrants. And of course
right now the trumpet dedministration is looking for excuses for

(19:49):
the problems that we face.

Speaker 3 (19:50):
We saw JD.

Speaker 2 (19:51):
Vance tell the American people that immigrants are driving home
prices up. The reason you can't fo a home is
because immigrants are driving the cost of housing up. Not
because they're not of houses, not because we don't build enough,
but because immigrants, those evil bastards, are driving the cost
of housing up. Now he has an explanation for why

(20:16):
test scores in our schools are going down, why educational
system is failing. Listen to this. Whoops, I mean yeah,
you'll have volume on this, I promise, gous. We talk
about test scores.

Speaker 7 (20:32):
Will if you subtract immigration out of test scores, all
of a sudden, our test scores skyrocket?

Speaker 2 (20:38):
Do they really? I mean do they not? If you
have Asian kids in your school district Indians Asians? I
want to show you a photo. I want to show
you a photo. Let's see if this will work. See
that photo. See those kids? How many of them are?
How many of them are? You know?

Speaker 3 (20:57):
What do they call them?

Speaker 7 (20:58):
Now?

Speaker 2 (21:00):
What do they call them? Heritage Americans? How many of
these are heritage Americans? They're all immigrants or children of immigrants.
I think, I mean, I might be reaching here, I'm
making I'm making a conclusion based on looks alone.

Speaker 3 (21:15):
But they don't they you know, maybe right?

Speaker 2 (21:19):
You know who these are? Who these people are? These
kids are? This is the US math Olympiad team. It's
the US math Olympia team. They represent America in the
math Olympiad and not a single one of them is
a quote Heritage of Americans. Somebody came after me on Twitter

(21:44):
by saying that they were tenth generation American. How many
tense generation Americans participate in the math Olympiad. So yeah,
test scores go down because you extract immigrants out of them,
maybe in some places, not in other places. This is

(22:04):
the kind of collectivism, tribalism bs that little fascists like
Miller spout all day long. A chief representative of one
of the greatest presidents in American history, If.

Speaker 7 (22:20):
You subtract immigration out of healthcare, all of a sudden,
we don't have nearly the size of the healthcare challenges
our country faces.

Speaker 2 (22:28):
Is that true? Is that really true? Because you know,
I think that a big part of the challenges that
we have with healthcare in this country is obesity. And
you know, I don't know, I haven't done a study.
You know, I'm speculating here that Americans are more obese

(22:50):
than pretty much anybody else, and more beasts than immigrants,
particularly in certain parts of Red Republican America. I mean
a lot of obesity, a lot of diabetes. I mean
most of the drug epidemic and the drinking epidemic, and

(23:10):
epidemic I hate even calling it epidemics, as if it's contigious.
But the drug problems, the drinking problems, and they're for
the liver problems and a lot of the you know,
diabetes problems, and they're for heart problems. Americans lifestyle, American lifestyle.
But no, let's blame you know why your health insurance
is so expensive. You know why there's such a line

(23:32):
in the emergency room. You know why there's problems in
healthcare all over the country, opiods and everything else. It's immigrants.
It's not you. This is what I told you fifteen
twenty sixteen. It's not you. You're Americans. You're wonderful, You're fantastic,
You're great, particularly if you voted for Donald Trump. You're
amazing people. Those immigrants, though, they're evil and all the problems.

(23:57):
We have, low test scores, no teachers are amazing. The
curriculum is fantastic, the schools are the best in the world.

Speaker 3 (24:04):
But the immigrants lower the standards. What can we do?
This is why, this is why.

Speaker 2 (24:11):
You know they're no immigrants in Silicon Valley because they're
not They're just not smart enough. They can't make it
in school in our schools. They know children of immigrants
in Silicon Valley. I'm sure you've never seen a child
of an immigrant to Silicon Valley or in.

Speaker 3 (24:23):
Any other leading positions.

Speaker 2 (24:25):
This is why all the CEOs of all the tech
companies are heritage Americans. I think, you know, like, of
the top five companies in the US, like in tech,
three of them are run by Indians or something. But
those Indians they raise, they lower our test scores, and
they raise our healthcare costs. I mean, this is what

(24:49):
I keep telling you about. They lie and lie, and
this is not Stephen Miller's smart. They lie and lie
and lie and lie and lie and lie. They lie boldly,
they lie assertively. They lie with passion until you stop
believing it, until all of you start believing it. And
then you.

Speaker 3 (25:05):
Repeat it and repeat it and repeat.

Speaker 2 (25:06):
It until it becomes established truth and nobody ever questions it.

Speaker 7 (25:11):
And do you subtract immigration out of public safety all
of a sudden, we don't have violent crime in so
many of our cities.

Speaker 2 (25:18):
Issued not true? You know, immigrants are by far less
violent than Americans heritage You're not. Americans are significantly more
engaged than violent crime than immigrants. And therefore, if you

(25:39):
actually subtract immigrants. If you kick out all the immigrants
in the United States, violent crime p capita will actually
go up the capita. So it's just unbelievable how he
can get away with this, unbelievable, how you can get

(26:05):
away with this and lie and the guy functions. He's
just gonna nod his head, just gonna nod his head. Yep, yep, yep,
yep checkpalk checkpalk checkpalk yep. Americans, wonderful immigrants. It's the other.

Speaker 3 (26:18):
It's the other.

Speaker 2 (26:18):
It's Chinese immigrants. It's those other people look differently than
you do.

Speaker 7 (26:25):
After issue, we talk about these things that just they
just happened to us.

Speaker 2 (26:28):
The schools just.

Speaker 7 (26:29):
Suddenly fail by the chrime just suddenly explodes, the deficit
just suddenly skyrockets.

Speaker 2 (26:33):
These are a.

Speaker 7 (26:34):
Result of social policy choices that we made through immigration.

Speaker 2 (26:39):
The results of social policy policies we make. Absolutely the
result of, you know, the kind of statist, nationalist, collectivist,
socialist policies that this country has been embracing for one
hundred years. And that's what's going to happen. But in

(27:03):
spite of all that, in spite of all that, you know,
clime is low and declining. In spite of all of that,
you know, our economic situation is okay, it's not great,
but it's okay. You know, it is amazing, right, it's amazing.

(27:26):
Immigrants always going the lowest in tests, so the dumbest
put it that way. And yet they take American jobs
somehow the most meritorious, and they're all living on welfare
at the same time. So they're bankrupting the country because

(27:47):
they're the ones drawing money on welfare. But they took
our jobs. Yeah, okay, and they're also buying all the
houses with what you know, where's the money that they
get to buy all the houses.

Speaker 3 (28:01):
So they're dumb.

Speaker 2 (28:05):
They take all the jobs, they're on welfare, and they
buy all the houses all at the same time. In
other words, any problem you might have anyway anytime in
the US, it's immigrants. Now. You know, Stephen Miller is
channeling here the same kind of obsession.

Speaker 3 (28:25):
You know, the people had way back.

Speaker 2 (28:31):
In the nineteen twenties, you know, when we had large
migration in the late nineteenth century, early twentieth century, and
then there was you know, nineteen twenty four, there was
a law put in place one of Coolidge's bad stuff
that he did that basically restricted immigrations significantly. And this
is this is what Miller said in a different part

(28:54):
of the interview. He says, what they teach you in
school is that from nineteen twenty to nineteen seventy seventy
there was negative migration. There was a half century of
negative migration. The farm bone population declined by forty percent
for half a century. That doesn't mean it was negative migration.
By the way, there wasn't negative migration. That just means

(29:15):
that migration was lower than birth rates. That is, more
Americans were born than migrants were coming in, so their
percentage of the population went down.

Speaker 3 (29:21):
But that's the kind of math that you.

Speaker 2 (29:23):
Know that US immigrants like me, you know, we don't get.
So maybe Stephen Miller is correct because he's a heritage American.

Speaker 3 (29:31):
No, wait a minute, he's not, is he.

Speaker 2 (29:33):
God, I don't know what we do with Stephen Mellie.

Speaker 3 (29:37):
He's Jewish.

Speaker 2 (29:38):
His parents immigrated to the United States. They're immigrants. They
benefited from you know, I don't know some pause and
the immigration laws that allowed them to come in. I
have no idea. I'd have to look into his heritage,
and how how American he really is, How many generations
did any of his ancestors, any of them fight in

(29:58):
the Civil War or in wolf independence, because otherwise I
don't know if I can take him seriously at all.
So that's not true. If on board population declined about
forty percent, five percent, she's true. But there was no
negative migration, he says, during the same period, deus population
doubled from natural childbirth. That's right, baby, it's called the
baby boom, particularly from the nineteen fifties. That was the

(30:20):
culture and in which he unified, shared national identity was formed.
They went through a depression together, They went through a
world wars together, They landed on the moon together. This
great period in American history happened at the time when
there was a negative migration. They don't teach you that
as school kids. So no, that is bullshit. That's the
technical term for what he's saying. There was no negative

(30:42):
migration during this period. But it's bullshit also in terms
of they went through a great depression together. Maybe that's
what we need. We need a great depression to unite us,
to bond us together. We need something really hobable to
happen like a world war. So we all come together
in a shared purpose, the people. We need a war,
I mean, that's what he's really saying. We need to

(31:04):
kick out all the immigrants, and we need a war
to you know, to resurrect the common collectivist spirit that
we all should have. Going God, but this is the
greatest president we've ever had. This is one of his
major spokesmen. This is this is America. This is what

(31:24):
America represents. This is what America stands for. This is America. This,
you know, this is what all of you should be cheering.
He lies, Oh he doesn't know math, one of the
other I think he lies because I think he knows math.
If Steven Millian, in spite of everything he says, everything,
he does, everything, the way he presents himself, it's actually

(31:46):
pretty smart. So he's lying. But then, what does it
count that we did this stuff together? You want to
go I mean, you want to go through a great
depression together. It's also nineteen twenty nineteen seventy, you know, yeah,

(32:08):
two world wars or one World War nineteen twenties, just
after the World War nineteen twenty four, a great depression,
a world war, you know, an okay, economic revival and
inflation of the nineteen seventies.

Speaker 3 (32:22):
This is good.

Speaker 2 (32:23):
And then another Vietnam War as well, you should mention that,
and of course the great society, establishment of the Welsas State,
and establishing of medicaid, medicaid, all of that happened during
this period of time. This is the period of time
we should haken for. And we didn't land on the
moon together. I wasn't there. Were you there? I mean,
so you weren't even born. Was this really a great

(32:45):
period in American history? How about eighteen seventy to nineteen twenty.
Eighteen seventy to nineteen twenty, we built this country together.
We industrialized this country together. We created the mightiest military
economic force the world there's ever seen. Together. We became
stronger economically than the British Empire. Together. And during that

(33:10):
time massive immigration. We populated, We populated the West. We
grew this country to where it is today, together with massive,
not a little bit massive, one of the greatest immigration
immigration phenomenas in all of history. We did it together,

(33:34):
I guess. And there was massive immigration. Like this rhetoric
works on people who are ignorant of American policy, who
don't have any understanding, any understanding of American history, of

(33:54):
American culture, of American principles, and have no knowledge of
the present. They know nothing about what's going on right now.
Nineteen twenties and nineteen seventies also a period of racist
quotas in immigration, but also jim Co laws, at least
for most of that period, eugenics laws. Much of an

(34:17):
economic stagnation, including a Great depression. It's true the farm
born chaffell from thirteen point five percent in nineteen twenty
to four point seven percent in nineteen seventy, but a

(34:38):
lot of that had to do with the fact that
because of the depression, people weren't coming and they were
kicked out. A lot of people tried to a lot
of Jews tried to leave Germany to come to the
United States to save themselves in the Holocaust, and the United.

Speaker 3 (34:52):
States said, nope.

Speaker 2 (34:54):
You think the United States would be better off if
those people had come or not, It's not even close.
I would also note that immigrants today, over the last

(35:16):
few decades, have built fifty five percent of the unicorns.

Speaker 3 (35:23):
And created trillions of dollars of wealth.

Speaker 2 (35:30):
You know, there's innovation in silicon value without immigrants. Really,
it's just astounding to me that this this is elevated,
this is what comes out of the White House. If
you have any respect for America, if you have every

(35:51):
respect for this country and its history and the principles
on which it was founded, you must condemn this administration
as one of the worst in hissisity, if not the worst,
and as one of and and ones with rhetoric that
is clearly uh, you know, uh, offensive and horrific and

(36:14):
anti individual rights and irrational and and just detached from
the facts of reality. So they lie, lie, lie, lie
all the time. H right. You might have heard that

(36:35):
there is a a war going on, and now you
know there was there was some uh some crossboader attack
between and firing between Thailand and Cambodia of all places,
a few months ago, and Donald Trump stepped in, supposedly
and he arranged a ceasefire, a peace deal. According to him,

(36:58):
the first one in like seven thousands, oh, no, seven
thousand years was the Middle East of sorry, and the
consequence of that was there was a ceasefire. And Trump
that's one of the nine or eight of the places
that he had brought peace to in the world that
you know that he deserves a noble price for peaceful anyway,

(37:18):
that is all gone up in flames. Trump or no Trump.
The Cambodians and the Ties bombing, bombing each other and
attacking each other. Now, this is a one on which
one side is clearly much more powerful than the other.
Neither one has a particularly strong economy or any kind
of world class military. But in comparison, Thailand has a

(37:42):
far superior military than Cambodia. It has American weapons systems.
It is currently I saw pictures, it is bom bombing
Cambodian territory and it's it's more than just firing across

(38:02):
the border. Supposedly, they've got armored vehicles now pushing forward
acrossing the Cambodia border, and Cambodia's is declaring a violation
of international law. They are whatever the hell that means,
I'm not And yeah, there was there was the beginning

(38:22):
of a real war here, not just a not just
a border conflict. Tanks are being recorded as advancing in
one of the districts where there is a territorial dispute infant.
The columns are moving and there is clearly air support
because they're seeing F sixteen's. F sixteen's on the tires

(38:44):
have bombing positions on the Cambodia side. Now, you know,
both of these countries are very close to China. Thailand
tends to be also close to the United States. It's
it's close to both countries in the United States have
sold it many of its most of its weapons systems.

(39:05):
And it's not exactly clear what there fighting over. I mean,
they're fighting over some territory, right, So this is a
long running border dispute over a piece of I guess
the jungle. There lands and ancient temples along a shared frontier.
It's called the main temple there is called the pre

(39:27):
Vho Temple. And look, the temples in Cambodia and in Thailand,
but the temples in Cabodia are beautiful, amazing tourist destinations.
But this is a contested site that each country claims
is theirs. You know, the border between Thailand and Cabodia
was basically drawn by the French, you know, in the

(39:50):
early twentieth century or the early yeah, in the early
twentieth century, the French drew up the borders, but unfortunately
they didn't just like in the Middle East where all
the countries have these straight borders, because the French and
the British did it then with basically rulers on a map.
They didn't know what the hell they were doing here.
The French were the ones who drew the borders. They
were the colonial power in this part of Asia during

(40:14):
this period of time, although the British had a presence
as well, so I'm not sure why the British went
a party to this. The British went Burma, and I
think Thailand was the only country for a member rate
that was not colonized, and only country in that region
that was not colonized by one of the European parties.
It remained independent, but I think it was under basically

(40:36):
British influence. So the border was drawn by the French,
but it was ambiguous in certain areas and the overlapping
claims and their recurring disputes about this. In nineteen sixty two,
this temple was awarded to Cambodia by the International Court

(40:58):
of Justice the ICG infamous ICJ, which I don't think
Thailand has ever been happy with. But the surrounding lands,
hills and strategic terrain have remained disputed. Both countries still
think that that territory is part of the country. In
twenty twenty five, this became, you know, something they started

(41:22):
firing on. I mean, this is pure nationalistic you know,
nationalistic furv. Nobody really cares. It's not like there's any
any oil in this land. There's not like anything significant
about this land. They could divvy it up fifty to
fifty between the two and nothing would change in terms

(41:45):
of the countries. This is trumped up nationalistic ferv, I
think primarily to disguise the fact that particularly Thailand is
not doing particularly well economically right now. Colombia is Cambodia. Sorry,
Cambodia is very poor. Its economy is growing much faster
than Thailand is, but it's much poorer than Thailand is.

(42:07):
She've got two countries that are fairly poor. Thailand, which
has had a lot of political instability, governments going in
and out, the only you know, the role of the
king being questioned, the military taking over a lot of instability.
Cambodia with just this horrific past of the Kame Rouge

(42:27):
Vietnamese occupation.

Speaker 3 (42:29):
And then again political instability.

Speaker 2 (42:32):
Both countries lack real freedom and real property rights, real
protection and property rights. Both of them lack the kind
of protection for individual rights. They're both nominally democracies, although
Thailand goes back and forth through a military government and
democracy back and forth, and Cambodia has these coups and
one party rule over periods of time, and these are

(42:55):
the kind of regimes that are likely to go to
war to distract people from challenges that they have internally.
And in this case, I think particularly Thailand has an
incentive to distract people because the economy is growing much
much slower than the poor in Thailand would like. I mean,
the poor in Thailand are very, very poor, and Thailand

(43:17):
does have an expansive middle class. They do have well
a class of people who are quite wealthy. And yet
economic growth it promises to bring the poor up and
create a much much bigger middle class, and that economic
growth is stalled and installed primarily for corruption reasons and

(43:38):
because a bad economic policy by the regime, by the
people who run the country. And so you know, I
don't know all the details. I'm not an expert on
this region. It's sad. I've visited both Thailand and Cambodia,
and both countries were amazing. The people super friendly, particularly

(44:01):
in Thailand. The people in Thailand are amazingly friendly. The
people in Cambodia a little less, but maybe that, I
mean it's just relative to Thailand. Everybody's unfriendly. They're so
friendly in Thailand. But we had an amazing time in Cambodia.
I mean it's very, very, very poor.

Speaker 3 (44:19):
But we got to see a lot.

Speaker 2 (44:21):
The temples are beautiful, the jungles are amazing, and it
was even interesting to experience some of the to you know,
see how people in these kind of in poor countries
like this actually live on a day to day basis.
It's sad, it really really is sad, but educational. So

(44:43):
both places are amazing. Both places rely on tourism for
a bulk of their revenue, for the you know, for
a bulk of the livelihood of the population. A war
is gonna as already devastated tourism, and it's likely to
devastate tourism even or so it is. It is really
really horrible. Uh. Somebody says in the chap a lot

(45:06):
of prostitution. A lot of prostitution in Thailand, not so
much in Cambodia. I didn't really see it in Cambodia,
but a lot in Thailand. Thailand has a a culture
that is very and this goes back a long time,
that is very tolerant to prostitution.

Speaker 3 (45:20):
It's legal, but it's also very accepting it.

Speaker 2 (45:24):
It has a it has an attitude towards sex that
I think is very materialistic and uh so it's it's
it's not a black mark as it would be anywhere
else to be a prostitute. In Thailand. They also have
an attitude towards what they call lady boys and uh
or trans however you want to call them. They have

(45:45):
a much more loose attitude towards that. They have a
loose attitude to its homosexuality. Thailand generally has this very
I don't know, Buddhist you know, Kama Sutra kind of
attitude towards sex. It's it's, it's not a it's not
a big deal. And they don't they don't take it
as some they don't. They're not Christian and but but

(46:06):
they're not exactly the objectives either, Right, they don't have
objective view of sex, but they're not a Christian. They
don't have to hang up the Christians have about sex.
So yeah, I mean really tragic to see that, to see,
you know, a war in this region. It's not even
clear what for why?

Speaker 3 (46:28):
What the hell?

Speaker 2 (46:29):
I can't tell you that I can say who the
good guys are and who the biad guys are.

Speaker 3 (46:35):
You know, I don't think this is a war Cambodia once.

Speaker 2 (46:38):
So it's hard for me to believe they would be
the instigators because they don't have any chance against the Ties.
I mean, they just don't have They don't have the army,
they don't have the weapons systems, they don't have the ability.
I mean, maybe China comes to help them, but China
says good relations with Thailand, so I find it hard
to believe that they will take too strong of a
side in this conflict. So just a just a a

(47:01):
bad situation, talk about bad situations, talk about bad situations.
Anaki's Middle East policy is a complete sham. It is
absolutely ridiculous. Right, and Donald Trump had the president of

(47:21):
Syria over to the White House, lavish praise on him,
established diplomatic relations, took all he sanctions on them. And
this is a man, the president of Syria, who used
to be a member of al Qaida and in isis
used to be a commander in Isis. Now he says
he's reformed. This is a man who says he wants

(47:44):
peace with Israel and he's not going to do He's
against kind of ethnic cleansing within Syrias, against going after
the minorities. He's given up on his old Isis thing.
And yet early on when he took office, there was
massive slaughter of the Bath Muslims.

Speaker 3 (48:04):
These are Shiat Muslims.

Speaker 2 (48:05):
The Bath is a minority with this Syria who actually
ruled Syria. I mean the Asuds were from the Bath
party and they were just slaughtered, thousands of them killed.
There was massive killing, of attempts to oppress the Jews
and kill Jews. If not for Israel stepping in and

(48:26):
protecting them, who knows what this regime would have done
with the Jews. And now, on a military parade this weekend,
Syrian forces, you know, paraded through the streets of Damascus
shouting Gaza, Gaza, a rallying cry victory in steadfast night
and day, we rise against you enemy. We rise from

(48:49):
mountains of fire we make our own and from blood
I forged my ammunition, and from blood rivers will flow
all targeted against of course, the Zionist enemy. So this
is a regime that claims to want peace with Israel,
yet this is kind of the marching, you know, kind
of the marching yell of its forces as.

Speaker 3 (49:13):
They patrol.

Speaker 2 (49:14):
One of the best things Israel did during the last
two years in the war is when the Aside regime fell.
The first thing Israel did was a win into Syria,
but particularly from the air, but not only from the air,
and basically eviscerated all the weapons systems that the Acid
regime had. All the heavy weapons that they had were destroyed,

(49:37):
not all of them because in this in this video
you can see some, but many of these might have
been provided by the Tooks, the Tooks and allies of
this new Syrian regime. The Tooks of course hate Israel.
Eldergan is an Islamist or kind of a quote moderate Islamist,
but he's a hater of Israel and he is backed

(50:02):
is the main back of this of this Syrian regime,
and he's also brought out U ABN as a backers.
The United States is completely friendly with them and encouraging
Israel to not intervene, not bomb Israel has brought in
forces to a demilitaryized zone between Israel and Syria and

(50:25):
to kind of create a big up buffer between it
and these potential these Islamists between this new Syrian government.
Israel is demanding that the whole area between Damascus and
the border with Israel d be demilitarized. The Syrian government
is saying, no way, this is an area where there
will be conflict. The Israel has a massive advantage over

(50:48):
the existing Syrian regime, so it's not a big problem
from Israel. But it could be just a pesky problem. Uh.
And we know that in the era of drones and
missile it could become a problem if these guys get
armed with thousands of drones and thousands of missiles. Hopefully

(51:09):
Israel will be on its toes in making sure they
do not. And one of the main things is all
needs to do is keep the Tooks out of there.
What they don't want is the Turkish army inside significant
parts of Syria, or the Turkish army is probably already
in northern Syria. But look, this is kind of a

(51:30):
crazy American policy, providing the Turks with the most advanced
American weapons systems possible, while the Tooks advocate funny Islamist
ideology that is clearly anti American and anti Western. So
this is not America first to arm enemies. But of
course the new National Security Strategy document doesn't identify Islamism

(51:57):
or Islamists, or jihadism or slimming totalitarianism as an enemy.
The United States is super friendly with Kato.

Speaker 3 (52:10):
I mean cash Patel.

Speaker 2 (52:13):
Just signed to MEMORANDUS of understanding with the Qatari Minister
of the Interior to expand joint training, intelligence sharing, and
security corporation with Kata, probably the number one front of
terrorism in the world for the last twenty years, thirty years.

(52:34):
The United States is going to provide them with intelligence
sharing and security corporation and joint training. I mean, used
phone policy in the Middle East is nuts, it's bunkers.
We are arming and helping and supporting and hugging and

(52:54):
embracing our worst enemies. Cattel is part of our worst enemies.
I mean, the Gaza plan was always absurd and ridiculous
and was going to fall apart. There's no plan right

(53:15):
now to dissolmn Hamas. There is no plan to even
confront Hamas. Any international stabilization force won't even go into
Hamas area itself, that'll be in the area that Israel controls.
No countries are willing to fight Hamas. Took Kinkata, which

(53:37):
are included in the Gaza nation building project, are not
only pro Hamas, but there are promoters of Hamas terrorism.
I mean, this is the dumbest plan in history. Now,
I'm happy that all the hostages were released. Now it's
time for Israel to go in then clean up, finish

(53:59):
the up. But the Trump administration is not going to
let them do it. This is peace, this has ceasefire,
is or can't start the war up again. The whole
Middle East policy of this administration is a disaster. In
spite of it's you know, momentarily partial successes. Syria's going badly. Tuki,

(54:27):
as I said, is only getting stronger. And the alliance
between the United States and Kata is really embarrassing. And
you know, Trump said he had the executive voted. He
said that in the future he's going to designate some
Muslim Brotherhood chapters as terrorist organizations, not the one in Kato,

(54:48):
not the one in Tuki. The biggest supporters of the
Muslim Brotherhood in the world. A farm policy that makes
no sense but it's this is But you know, this
is the greatest president, one of the greatest presidents in
all American history. His phone policy must be excellent, brilliant, stunning, amazing,

(55:10):
and by the way, better than Biden's. Better than Biden's.
Therefore he should get a gold star. Gold star. It's embarrassing.
It's embarrassing that this is even considered a pharm policy.

(55:34):
All right, let's see what happened to this? Uh there
it is okay, so uh. Another one of the great
achievements of this administration is, of course, tariffs and the
significant decline uh in, or the attempt to create significant

(55:58):
decline in US trade. And a lot of people, some people,
not a lot of people, because most people didn't see it.
Some people thought that Trump tarifs would be like smoot
Holly and had the potential of driving the world into
great recession and depression. You will remember that I never
said that. I never argued that I didn't think they

(56:18):
would have that kind of economic effect. But a lot
of people were worried about it. And one of the
reasons it hasn't happened. There are many reasons it hasn't happened.
One of the reasons it doesn't happen is because in
nineteen thirty, when ste Holly was passed, twenty five other
countries imposed retaliatory tariffs. They triggered in a worldwide trade war,
not just with the United States but among each other,

(56:39):
which basically resulted in everybody shooting themselves in the leg
and ultimately everybody collapsing into a great depression. The real
value of world trade in the post Smooth Holly period
dropped by more than sixty five percent from twenty nine
to thirty three, by sixty five percent. The reality is

(57:03):
that people everywhere in the world, with exception of the
United States, are just smarter today. They know economics better today,
so there was.

Speaker 3 (57:14):
Very little retaliation.

Speaker 2 (57:17):
Even China now even though we've got what taifts on them,
they put ten percent on us, like they're not going
to match the insanity of forty percent.

Speaker 3 (57:25):
They're not going to shoot themselves in the leg.

Speaker 2 (57:30):
So people no more. They understand trade, so they are
not imposing retaliatory tasks at the same levels. They're not
engaging in a tariff war, and they're not doing it
to one another. Indeed, quite the opposite is happening right now.

(57:52):
Countries around the world are increasing trade with one another.
We talked about this, but the fact that China has
now reached a trillion dollars of experts, you know, but Canada,
as I recognize that the US is to quote their
Prime minister, no longer reliable partner.

Speaker 3 (58:10):
True, and they are pivoting to other relationships.

Speaker 1 (58:15):
You know.

Speaker 3 (58:15):
They they went, I met with the Chinese.

Speaker 2 (58:18):
They've got you know, good dialogue going over with Chinese,
and they want to increase trade with China.

Speaker 3 (58:23):
They want to increase trade with Europe.

Speaker 2 (58:26):
They've established some kind of you know, defense thing with
Europe where defense industries are going to share information.

Speaker 3 (58:32):
To work together.

Speaker 2 (58:35):
It's also today much much cheaper to shift trade around.
It's very cheap to move products from China anywhere in
the world, from Europe anywhere in the world, from Canada
anywhere in the world. Shipping is super cheap, you know,

(58:56):
massively cheaper than it was in the nineteen thirties. We
also have the ability through fed XUPSDHL to move small
item stuff all.

Speaker 3 (59:05):
Over the world.

Speaker 2 (59:07):
So if Americans not buying, or Americans is gonna you know,
Americans are going to buy less because the prices have
gone up just move it elsewhere. The cost of fate
has gone significantly down, the cost of communication has gone down,
and therefore new discovering new markets has become much much easier.

(59:30):
Uh So we're seeing that right Chinese exports to Southeast
Asian nations has gone up by sixty one percent. To
Japan and Korea it's gone up forty one percent, To
Africa it's gone up thirty five percent, to the European
Union it's gone up twenty eight percent, and to India
and Latin America it's gone up ten percent. So countries

(59:55):
are just reshuffling. Indeed, because of America and hostility towards
India and the fifty percent tariffs that we inflicted on them,
India has become much more chummy with China in spite
of their vote a dispute, and there's much more trade
between India and China than there was before, and there
will be much more in the years to come. In

(01:00:18):
other words, countries are redrawing trade alliances. Companies are seeking
new markets, and they're all just going around America. Now
that's not cheap for anybody, because the United States is
the largest economy in the world, but what choice do
they have when Americans don't want to trade, when Americans
want to commit suicide, when they want to commit harakiri

(01:00:38):
in the name of what. Nobody exactly knows the whims
of Donald Trump. Now, there's an excellent editorial up ed
in the Wall Street Journal from two days ago, written
by the two authors that I've cited before as writing
really really good stuff and Trade, the best stuff and

(01:00:59):
Trade in the Wall Stat Journal, Phil Graham, former senator
from Texas, and Don Boudreau, the economist from George Mason University.
You know this is this is the final paragraph, and
they were all bad. Expanding world trade built the modern world,
liberated Eastern Europe, won the Cold War, and expanded America's

(01:01:21):
prosperity and influence. Building a tariff wall around America won't
stop trade. It was simply devoted. If tarifs remained high,
America's wealth and power will wane while that of other
countries will grow. And that is the truth. There's an interesting,

(01:01:44):
interesting election in Miami yesterday. I guess Miami has been hey,
I guess it wasn't yesterday before yesterday, but maybe it
was yesterday. Miami was being a Republican. You know, it's
been read for thirty years. A Democrat has not won
a Mayo race in Miami in thirty years. This is

(01:02:09):
dominated by Latin Americans who know the evils of communism,
who have supported Republicans consistently, Cubans, Venezuelans, and others who
have been big supporters. This is a county that went
for Trump in a huge way in twenty twenty four elections.

(01:02:33):
You know, it's and yet and yesterday, for the first
time in thirty years, Democrats won the mayo race.

Speaker 3 (01:02:44):
By the way, in Georgia.

Speaker 2 (01:02:46):
In the state of Georgia, Democrats also flipped a Republican
seat in a county that went in a district that
went twelve points for Trump. Maybe there's an anti Trump
backlash brewing. I mean, the winner ran on a non
partisan kind of ticket, but she's affiliated with the Democratic Party.

(01:03:12):
She beat the runner up. You know, her name is
Eline Higgins. The runner up was Amelia Gonzalez. He was
a former Miami City manager. He ran as a republic
basically a Republican, and she beat him fifty nine to
forty one. I mean, it wasn't as well as a

(01:03:33):
small thing. It seems like maybe there's a shift in
the country. It seems like maybe twenty twenty six is
not going to go Republican way. Maybe that's why Donald
Trump is on the road telling us we shouldn't want
thirty seven dollars. I don't know, he's trying to do

(01:03:54):
damage control. I'm not sure thirty seven dollars. Reducing the
number of dollars Americans promise their kids is a winning strategy.

Speaker 3 (01:04:02):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:04:02):
We'll see. He's he's very successful politically. See, you never know.
All right, this is a funny story. It's it's really
it's funny and stupid all at the same time. But
this is the story about Seattle's You know, the US
is hosting the World Cup next year, and they're gonna
be games all over the US, Canada, and Mexico. I

(01:04:24):
don't know if the teams will have to pay a
tariff as they move between the countries, but there are
gonna be games, and Seattle decided that one of its games,
the game one of the games in Seattle. I don't
know if there's more than one, but one game in Seattle,
the one on June twenty sixth, will be designated a

(01:04:45):
Pride Night. This will be a game to celebrate LGBTQ whatever.
They'll be rainbow flags, there'll be odd installations, it'll be
a big community partnership, there'll be the works will be
fun stuff. Fun stuff is gonna be happening at the
stadium in Seattle for the World Cup during the World

(01:05:08):
Cup twenty twenty six, and they're gonna celebate you know,
probably they're gonna celebrate LGBTQ. You know, fine, it's Seattle,
after all, you'd expect it. But this is where it
gets funny and ridiculous and stupid.

Speaker 3 (01:05:23):
Guess who's playing that game.

Speaker 2 (01:05:25):
I guess they didn't know this in advance, but now
we know who's gonna be playing that game. It's gonna
be a very LGBTQ friendly match because the two teams
playing the match are Egypt versus Iran. Now, just you

(01:05:45):
understand in Iran, homosexuality is punishable by flogging, imprisonment, or death.
I'm not even sure the Ranians allowed onto a stadium
where they might be so gay people. I mean, Iwon
executes people for sodomy. Now you know, in Egypt has

(01:06:15):
debauchery laws and they imprison people for same sex up
to up to three years. Law enforcement uses dating apps
to hunt people down. If they gave Seattle's response, once
they realize Egypt Youan, they said, cool, let's do it.

(01:06:36):
Suk has a unique power to unite people across borders, cultures,
and beliefs. This match reflects our ongoing commitment to respect,
dignity and unity of all. I yeah, this is beautiful.
We'll have, you know, a stadium full with Seattle progressives
chewing on. I don't know one of the teams, Egypt
or you wan, which team do you want to chew on?

(01:07:00):
It's going to be a spectacle. I hope, I really,
really really hope they broadcast this match live. I mean
right now, they've got these photos with the LGBT rainbow
colors in the background and players from Iran and from
Egypt on the front. I mean, can you imagine what's
going on in Iran in Egypt? Can you imagine how

(01:07:21):
offended they are? I mean, I have to say the
given how offended the Iranians and Egyptians must be because
of this, I am hugely in support of this. Anything
to offend the Iranians, I'm good with anything that offends
the Ranians. All Right, this last bit is just interesting, right.

(01:07:52):
So this is about public executions. This is the topic
right now at the fullfront of intellectual debates in America
right now, and really all because of what is going
on with the with the war on you know, on
people on people supposedly having drugs in their boats and

(01:08:20):
being summarily executed by the US. So this is this
is I'm going to read you a Twitter chain of
responses and then we'll get to the actual topic of
public executions. Anyway, some guy named Andrew Corvette, who is
a Christian, proud father, TPSU spokesman, a spokesman for TPSU,

(01:08:43):
executive producer of The Charlie Cook Show, and son of Nevada,
an American with an American flag right there. An American,
real American. Maybe he's a heritage American. I don't know.
Two hundred and fifty plus thousand followers. Anyway, he tweeted
having new attack aimed at Pete hegseth makes me want
another Narco drug boat blown up and sent to the

(01:09:07):
bottom of the ocean. I mean, these are macho guys.
This is t Stowstone, full filled masculinity. These are real Americans,
bloodthirsty Americans. They want to see those drug dealers drug boats.
They want summary execution for a bunch of people, no trial,
not stopping the boat to see if there are any

(01:09:27):
drugs on it, just blow them out of the water.
It's so much fun to watch those bombs drop, the
boat blow up, and knowing that people who might maybe
be smuggling drugs not to America because they can't reach America.
But don't let facts interfeel with your feelings. Watching them die,
that just makes they dad anyway. Peak he says, says whoops. Peak,

(01:09:49):
Hex says, tweets back your wishes out Command Andrew just
sunk another knacko boat. Wow, they're so cool, these guys.
Claire Leman, now Claire Leman is the is the founder
and I think publisher of quinn Let, Quintet quin quint

(01:10:10):
Let magazine, online magazine, quinn Lett. She is the founder
and editor, a contributor in a writer. She writes a dispatch,
she wates for others. She is a She is one
of the Quintlette was one of the first publications left
or right. She she's on the right that came out

(01:10:32):
against Woke, that made a big deal out of Woke.

Speaker 3 (01:10:36):
They exposed it for what it was.

Speaker 2 (01:10:39):
Uh, you know, they've been writing kind of they've been
anti left for a very long time. They've been really
big and uh, you know, she has been kind of
at the forefront of of of the debate about the
evil of the left right, and and her publication often
has you know, pretty good, pretty good stuff. May he

(01:11:01):
could you get in the left, but good stuff anyway. Anyway,
she wrote, this is grotesque, and I look, and look,
I get it that sometimes hard men need to do
ugly things. But if you're going to do this, don't
broadcast it and don't brag about it. Right, So she's

(01:11:23):
like saying, you know, really, this is pretty ridiculous what
you're doing. Right. So Joe Loansman Lonsdale, and I know Joe,
and I'm friendly with Joe. So just for the record,
Joe Lonsdale, who is the founder and the money behind
and the founder of the University of Boston and Texas,

(01:11:46):
writes this in response to Clay. He writes, she's just wrong.
Leftist school mom leaders cause violence.

Speaker 3 (01:11:56):
And evil in our civilization.

Speaker 2 (01:11:59):
She's no lefty. Sinking knocker boats publicly helps deter others,
as does hanging repeat violent criminals. Killing bad guys is
department of war job. He should drag more masculine truth, bold,

(01:12:20):
virtuous men, deter evil, and then he goes on. If
I'm in charge later, we don't have a three strikes laws.
We will quickly try and hang men after three violent crimes.
And yes, we will do it in public to deter others.

(01:12:43):
Our society needs balance. It's time to bring back masculine
leadership to protect our most valuable, most vulnerable. I mean,

(01:13:06):
that's the stance. We need public executions again. Bring back
public executions. We need to have public hangings. We need
to show pictures everywhere. We need to take our kids
to watch this stuff, because that's what masculinity did my hands,
and that deturs crime. Again. I'll note we do not have,

(01:13:31):
you know, public executions anymore. Indeed, we haven't had public
executions in the United States in a long time. We
still execute people, but we do it in private. We
don't make a big deal out of it, and we
don't invite an audience, maybe a small audience of the victims,
but we don't do it publicly. And in spite of that,

(01:13:53):
crime has gone down not a Indeed, the first part
of the world that, you know, public executions.

Speaker 3 (01:14:02):
So let me just say.

Speaker 2 (01:14:05):
Claire then has published in quinnlad a article which I
highly recommend because I think it's really really good, called
public Hangings and the Politics of Virtue. She says, Joe Lonsdale,
this is the subtitle Joe Lonsdale wants public hanging restored.
History shows they failed. Western societies became safer and more
abandoning and after abandoning brutal spectacle justice. So she talks

(01:14:30):
about the fact that, you know, not that long ago
in Europe there were regular public executions, I mean regular
several times a week. Many of them actually involved also,
you know, much more than just hanging. They involved torture.
They involved what do you call it, drawn and courted.

(01:14:53):
You know what drawn and courted is. It's when they
tie a rope to each one of your arms and
each one of your legs, and each rope is tied
into a horse, and they rip you apart. The horses
rip you apart, and then after they rip you apart,
they told you some more and you die slowly, right yea? Anyway,

(01:15:17):
and this is all done in public. And people used
to used to go, They used to go publicly and
they they used to cheer, and they used to they
used to being their kids to see this, And yet
violent crimes during this period was really, really, really high. Indeed,
you could argue these kind of public executions kind of

(01:15:37):
desensitized people to unbelievable violence. I mean, most people today
couldn't stomach seeing somebody drawn and corded. I mean, you
literally would get physically ill. And maybe that's the fact
that we get that way from seeing extraordinary violent crime.
Maybe is one of the reasons violent crime is down.

(01:16:02):
I mean, the guillotine one was introduced during the French Revolution,
was considered incredibly humane because there was a quick death.

Speaker 3 (01:16:11):
And of course when they did.

Speaker 2 (01:16:13):
That chopping people's heads off, crowds used to form to
come and watch it, including you know, and this is
the thing about masculine and feminiti most of those crowds,
those crowds are often more women than men. And indeed,
during the French Revolution of the guillotining, there was this
a collection of women who used to sit next to
the guillotine watching this while they were knitting, while they

(01:16:40):
were needing knitting during the Reign of Terror, and they
have reduced violence in society there's no evidence of that. Indeed,
Stephen Pinker shows in Better Angels on Nature, a book

(01:17:00):
I highly recommend, highly highly highly recommend, particularly the first
two thirds. He shows that in both and Biblical, medieval
and early modern times, lots of things will punishable by death, sodomy, gossiping, stealing,
picking up sticks on the Sabbath, talking back to parents,

(01:17:24):
criticizing the old Garden. During the last years of the
reign of King Henry the Eighth in England, there were
more than ten executions in London every week, every week
that woulduce crime. And then things changed. Things changed during

(01:17:49):
the Enlightenment, the Age of reason, the age of individualism,
the age of respect for individual dignity, individual rights, and
people started having more respect for human life. Death penalty
was reduced significantly. People started recognizing that the death penalty

(01:18:18):
might actually be an example of the atrocity it's supposed
to discourage people from committing. I mean. Voltaire wrote extensively
about the evils of cruelty and the futility of executions.

Speaker 3 (01:18:35):
That you have again, rights and dignity.

Speaker 2 (01:18:38):
Too cold in Europe and slowly public execution and ultimately
executions generally were abandoned so for example, by the mid
nineteenth century, public executions no longer could across most of
Europe if capital punishment was carried out done behind closed doors.

(01:19:01):
By the mid twentieth century, most European nations that abandoned
capital punishment altogether. Now by Joe Lonsdale logic, this would
result in a spike in moder rates, a spike in violence,
a dramatic increase in violence. And yet Europe has some

(01:19:23):
of the lowest homicide rates in the world. Japan has
no public executions and there's almost no murder in Japan,
same with South Korea.

Speaker 3 (01:19:35):
They don't drain quart of.

Speaker 2 (01:19:36):
Their people, they don't hang them in public, and there's
no violent crime. Violent crime is not a consequence of
not executing people in public. Violent crime is a consequence
of a rotten culture, of a cultural rot And you
don't improve the culture by blowing people up by having
no respect for human life.

Speaker 3 (01:19:56):
Blowing people up in boats.

Speaker 2 (01:20:00):
No procedure, no declaration of war, no real legitimacy. According
to Pinkers Pinker Rights in Better Angels, nature of Stephen Pinker,
abolition of public execution far from reversing centuries long decline

(01:20:20):
of homicide proceeded in tandem with it, and the countries
of Western Europe, none of which executed people, have some
of the lowest crime homicide rates in the world. One
of the great achievements I think of Western civilization of
the Enlightenment is getting rid of the savagery and the

(01:20:42):
celebration of death that is involved in public executions. The
Iranians still public execute people, so do the Saudis and
the Islamist regimes.

Speaker 3 (01:20:55):
Is that who we are?

Speaker 2 (01:21:01):
Something is failing me here? On second? Is that what
America is. We're rejecting Western civ to embrace kind of
a medievalism. I mean, I'm against the death penalty generally,
primarily because too many innocent people get caught up in

(01:21:22):
it and land up dying. But so I reject that penalty,
but I certainly reject the idea of doing it in public.
Let's just go task. It really is uncivilized. But our

(01:21:46):
new kind of robust, right wing masculine I think that
public execution is going to solve a problem. Public executions.
It's what's going to make America, you know, a bat
more prosperous, more successful. Now, it's true that when you

(01:22:16):
have super lenient laws against criminals, crime increases. It's true
that punishment does have a role in detruing crime. That
is a far cry from demanding public executions. Yeah, I

(01:22:36):
put more police out into the streets. Yes, three strikes in,
you out three violent crimes, throw away the keys, lock
them up for life, or you know, if somebody commits murder,
and it's really unequivocal.

Speaker 3 (01:22:53):
Yeah, I have no problem with the death penalty, but making.

Speaker 2 (01:22:57):
A public spectacle of it, why would anybody go see it?
And what does it say about you if you want
to go see it other than somebody who's directly related
and might want to see the justice done directly. Public
executions never helped, They never stopped crime. What stopped crime

(01:23:20):
was a change culture rule of law. And what we
need is the rule of law, not the kind of
crazy leftist policies you know San Francisco, Chicago and other
cities have engaged in. We need to be tough on crime,
real crime that doesn't evolve blowing up random boats. Well

(01:23:41):
maybe they're not random suspicious boats in the Caribbean. That
sends the message that we are law less, that we
have no respect for the rule of law. Yeah, I
mean with I'm with Claire, I'm not with Joe. Sorry Joe,

(01:24:06):
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(01:30:47):
chance to participate live. All right, let's start with Clark.
Who's got a fifty well seventy dollars questions a fifty
dollars question in two parts Part one, you say, Nick
foyents is still marginal. More people go to Silicon Valley,
in Wall Street, et cetera. But look at the trends

(01:31:07):
in the culture. Big tech is being ruthlessly attacked while
Fuentes is being propagated. He gets three million views from
Piers Morgan. That would not have happened ten years ago.
Stephen Crowder would not be promoting Nick unless he saw
this is what his audience wanted. The direction the culture

(01:31:27):
is going is Nazism, not Silicon Valley. Look, it's true,
and I told you that I was shocked by how
many people in Silicon Valley were, in a sense supporters
of Fuentes and Yawn and white supremacists more broadly. So,
there's no question that this is a force in the culture.

(01:31:48):
It's not a dominant force in the culture. It's a
dominant force on social media. It's a dominant force among people.
It's a dominant force among people who who.

Speaker 3 (01:32:02):
You know, who like to troll. It's a dominant force.

Speaker 2 (01:32:09):
In Twitter, but in social media more broadly, there's no
question about that. And as I've talked about, it's a
dominant force among Republicans of a certain age. Republicans in
their twenties, maybe in the early thirties. Gen Z's and
millennial Republican men not very popular among women at all.
Given Nick Foytus's attitude towards women, they shouldn't vote, they

(01:32:32):
should stay at home. I wouldn't expect many women to
support Nick Foyenttis's point of view. So it's men young,
and it's the social media now I don't know. And
the men that attracted this are primarily men involved in politics. Again,

(01:32:53):
I think a lot of people hard working, they're raising families,
they're engaged in life, the dating. They don't have this
attitude towards women that Nick Foyntas says. Remember, the number
of people following Foyntis is exaggerated by bots and by

(01:33:13):
fake accounts from all over the world. Although a lot
of people are watching him. There's no question, so I'm
not saying he's not a force. I talk about him
a lot, not about him, but I talk about the
phenomena a lot on this show because I worry about
it because it's a real threat. It's a real threat
to our lives, a prosperity, a piece. You know, these
people are dangerous and they're nasty and it's really bad.

(01:33:40):
Right So, yeah, Jennifer says, the video is only for
one hundred and twenty five is audio only, not anymore.
We basically allowed everybody to do video, so you can
do video with twenty five as well, and the street

(01:34:01):
the demands for participating on the panel in the ammy.
Uh so, yeah, it's a threat. We should take it seriously.
We should combat it. We should provide alternative values to

(01:34:23):
these people. We should try to educate people about how
nasty this is. And sadly, the way Peers Wogan approached
it was the wrong way. I mean basically just made
fun of him and ran circles around him at the
end of the day, right, I mean, Piersmogen thinks that's
say that if you say you're racist, that's a win.

(01:34:44):
But it turns out it's not. They don't mind the
term racist. And Piers Morgen thinks that he says Hitler
killed twelve million people, that doesn't make Hitler cool. These
people think he's cool partially because he killed twelve million people.
And Nick Frantis, even though in the interview he kind
of says, yeah, I believe Hitler killed six million Jews,

(01:35:07):
maybe seven, maybe eight, was making fun of the whole attitude.
I don't think he's a holocaust and I he's always
been one. He's been one. He's an anti Semitic racist,
which he admits fascist. That's what he is, and so
you're not gonna score points against it by having him

(01:35:31):
on your show. The only thing to do is to
point out to people the consequence of these ideas and
to offer an alternative. It's suddenly worthwhile making clear that
some of us think these ideas are horrific, disgusting, unacceptable.

(01:35:55):
And part of doing that is not interviewing people like
Nick Frantis. It's deplatforming him, absolutely deplatforming him saying this
is not civilized. It's not civilized to sit down and
have a civilized conversation with a monster and his idea
is a monstrous and Nick Foints is very smatsy couches
and in positive but there is a real problem with

(01:36:17):
the young generation. The young generation is some of them
are attracted to this now. Is it a majority of
the young generation. No, I don't think it is. That
was my point yesterday when I said, don't be too pessimistic.
It's that most people under the age of thirty four,
called the young are not attracted to Nick Fointis. The

(01:36:41):
number of people that are is scary. It's too big.
But it's still not a majority. It's still not a
significantly sized minority. But it's way too big, and we
should fight it. We should really fight it. We can't
stay silent about it, all right, Michael. Many people have

(01:37:08):
warned about the likelihod of civil war in the streets.
It hasn't even once come close to happening. But if
America starts taking their racism and tribalism as seriously as
Stephen Miller wants them to, I don't see how it
doesn't happen. Well, I mean, it only happens if people
are willing to fight against them. People were not willing

(01:37:30):
to fight against that kind of attitude in the nineteen
thirties Germany. You know, it took a long time for
Americans to be willing to fight in order over Slavy
and even then fighting of it over it. I'm not sure,
is that popular? How many civil wars are broken out

(01:37:55):
because of stuff like this? I don't think they have.
Often people learn to tolerate it. One of the goals
of the New Right is to desensitize us. I mean,
the whole point of ICE is to desensitize from us
from acts of violence on a regular basis in our

(01:38:17):
streets by the authorities. Stephen Miller and Ferentis and all
these guys are there to desensitize us from racist arguments
and anti semitism so that we never rise up in
a civil war. So the fear is not a civil war.

(01:38:40):
The real fear is civil war means that some people
who opposed and are willing to fight for it. The
real fear is much worse than a civil war in
a sense is the nobody rises up to fight it,
and people just accept it, and they were with it,
and we just wake up one morning and we're in
an authoritarian state, fully authoritarian state, right chasbudd Could Ellen

(01:39:13):
Ripley from eight to oh this is from a previous show?

Speaker 3 (01:39:17):
Could I guess it's still hanging out here?

Speaker 2 (01:39:19):
Could Ellen Ripley aliens have been happy if she stayed
on Earth rather than return to the alien nest to
finish them off. Her case is different because she was
having constant nightmares about her experience. Yeah, but you know, okay,
so she returned. She was not guaranteed success. I mean,
the odds of a succeeding were actually pretty small. She

(01:39:41):
was probably gonna die. And did she completely eliminate them?
Did she finish them off? Well not according to Aliens
three and four and five and six and seven or
whatever sequels they have been, So.

Speaker 3 (01:39:57):
She didn't even succeed.

Speaker 2 (01:39:59):
So if she'd stayed home and lived a comfortable life
and maybe you know, sought our therapy to try to
eliminate the nightmare, is maybe she could have achieved a
happy life. I'm not sure that the past she took
is one that ultimately will achieve happiness. Doesn't she die
after Alien three and then get resurrected. Isn't she like

(01:40:20):
a Jesus character that is sacrificed and then comes back
to redeem the human race or something like that? That
ain't happiness? Shasbad asked, is Trump building Project X project
dex from Adel shrugged? I won't say what it is,
but no, I don't think so. I don't think so.
I don't think he's building anything that file. He's building

(01:40:43):
a police force that he can rely on to oppress us,
not that he will use, but that one of his
one a future president, will be able to easily use. Wes,
thank you for the fifty dollars. Really really appreciate the
stick up. Thank you, Gail, Thank you, Curreneric, thank you.

(01:41:07):
And then who do I just see Stephen Harper, Thank you, James.
I think Booma as a put down means life was
easy for you back in the day when cost of
living was low and women you their place. You have
no idea how it is today to move forward in
this world.

Speaker 3 (01:41:26):
Maybe that that's what it means. I doubt it.

Speaker 2 (01:41:29):
I was hearing Boomer, you know, the alt right started
with I think. I think probably in the twenty sixteen
twenty seventeen I started hearing Booma kind of used. I
don't think it was used that way. But yeah, generally
life is easy back then. But that's bizarre by every standard,

(01:41:49):
maybe with the exception of cost of housing, but everybody
understand it, and maybe the exception of women, although I
think for men, women were always hard, particularly or kind
of more geeky men women were always hard. It was
never easy. Women knew their place. I mean, god, I'm
a boomer, right, My wife didn't know her place, whatever

(01:42:11):
that place is. That's absurd of ridiculous. So maybe that's
what it means, but it's stupid. I mean, boomers made
less money in their twenties than gen z does a
lot less. They owned less stuff, they had fewer opportunities,
they had fewer good jobs. In every respect, their world

(01:42:33):
was much harder. They were poorer. The angst the gen
Za's experience is mostly created by their own anxiety.

Speaker 3 (01:42:47):
And is a result.

Speaker 2 (01:42:52):
Of them believing, wanting instant gratification, and not being willing
to work for it. About life today, almost everything about
life today is easier than it was sixty years ago.
I mean I lived, you know, a family of four.

(01:43:16):
I don't know. A first apartment that my parents had
was tiny, two bedrooms, one bathroom, maybe maybe five hundred
square feet, and then maybe we went to six hundred
square feet, and then we got, you know, we got
kind of a really good position, and we moved into

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a twelve hundred square feet thirteen hundred square feet apartment
that had four bedrooms and one bathroom.

Speaker 3 (01:43:44):
But now, there were six of us.

Speaker 2 (01:43:46):
So it's just that's how we grew up. So this
notion that gen Z has it so hard, I mean,
they're just spoiled brats. Now, there is a problem in
the culture which I think they are mislabeling, and that
problem is they've grown up in a world of helicopter parents.

(01:44:06):
They've grown up in a world of helicopter governments, government
that intervenes in every aspect of their life. They've grown
up in a world that is much more statists. They've
also grown up in a world that is going to
load them up with a lot of debt. But you know,
and to some extent they're feeling that now. And part
of that is the relatively low economic growth that they're experiencing,

(01:44:29):
but they still is positive economic growth. They've grown up
in a world with no values, with no principles, with
no pride, with no self esteem. They grow up in
a world where everybody get ribbons. So look, they're screwed.
Gen Z is screwed. Just not in the way they

(01:44:50):
think this screwed. This screwed because they've been pampered. They
screwed because they got ribbons. They're screwed because they didn't.
They didn't. They weren't allowed fail this scooter because they
were never left alone this scoop because the government has
grown and taking on huge debts to fund my retirement,

(01:45:11):
mysol security, my medicare with their money. Yeah, in that sense,
they're screwed. But he's got nothing to do with affordability.
It's nothing you can do with the life is hard
for them. It's got nothing to do with women. I mean,
half of gen Z are women, and their lives are
much better now than they were sixty years ago. They

(01:45:32):
have many, many, many many more opportunities. And why should
we ignore the women. I mean, that's us a bizarre
that we should only focus on the men, and the
men have more opportunities than they've ever had before, including
actually meeting a dagny like I don't get it you

(01:45:56):
eat outlets, shrugged and ima want to marry a wife
who who who doesn't have an opinion and stays in
the kitchen and raises your kids and and but never
doesn't do anything as a kind of woman you want?
Don't you want to marry a dagone or the equivalent
of ad agony or somebody with self esteem, somebody with

(01:46:19):
with with a passion, somebody who has opinions, somebody who
stands up for themselves, somebody who does interesting things and
have expresses interesting opinions. Am So you know God, I mean,

(01:46:44):
that's the thing they were. These men were pampered. These
men are soft, and because they're soft, they want women
that will disguise the fact that they're soft.

Speaker 3 (01:46:58):
They don't want to.

Speaker 2 (01:46:59):
Live up to a woman. They want to live down.
They don't want to be challenged by a woman because
they don't want to be challenged, because they don't have
to self esteem to be challenged. One of the whole
role of women in a man's life is to challenge you,
is to make you better, It's to inspire you to

(01:47:22):
be better. You could argue a man's role in a
woman's life is similar, but certainly for a man, a
woman is there to inspire you to be better, to
inspire you to be the best that you can be.
But I guess men don't want that because that's scarce,
the that's demanding. That means you have to do something

(01:47:46):
with your life. Andrew Trump last night at Israeli mused,
why can't we get normal immigrants like from Denmark or Scandinavia.
I don't think it's an special bigot though he's getting closer,
but a nasty collectivist with racial bias thoughts. Yeah, no,

(01:48:06):
he's absolutely a racist. You know, he's not a he's
not the worst kind of racist, but he is a racist.
He thinks of people in terms of race and skin color.
He is definitely a bigot and he's definitely a collectivist.
What does racial bias mean if you're not a bigot,
Racial bias implies bigotry. So he's a bigot, and he

(01:48:27):
thinks that you know, what made this country are Danes
and Scandinavians, but they're you know, if anything, what made
this country are Germans. The more Germans here, the Danes
and Scandinavians combined. But the more Italians, the more span
You know, there are plenty of Spaniards, are lots of Mexicans.
The Eastern Europeans, lots of them, and they get a

(01:48:49):
lot of the Nobel price prices. Don't get that many
Nobel prizes to Scandinavians and Danes, not nowhere near as
many as Eastern Europeans. And you know, God forbid Jews.
But yes, he's he's I've told you this for ten years.
He's whether he's a racist or not. He knows how

(01:49:12):
to play to the racism of his crowd, of his audience,
of many of his voters, many of his voters. Michael,
have you noticed a rise in your own popular popularity?
You have a lot of strong defenders in the comments

(01:49:32):
section of your newly released interviews and lectures. Where do
you see yourself and the movement in ten years? You know,
I don't know. I haven't noticed the rise of my popularity,
although it might be there. I'm eager for the days
where I am invited by dozens of organizations to come
and give speeches and I can't keep up right now,

(01:49:54):
that is not the situation. By the way, if you
want to invite me to come and speak to your business,
to your tra organizations, to to your university, please do
and in many cases, if it's a university, it won't
cost you much. So please consider. If if there's a group,

(01:50:15):
any kind of group any place, but particularly on campuses,
please consider inviting me to come and speak. I'm trying
to fill up my schedule for next year. I'm looking
for invitations anyway. I mean, maybe my committed followers are
more aggressive these days, are more engaged, are willing to
go out there and defend me and interviews and lectures.

(01:50:37):
There's no question I'm more known now than I ever was.
You know, I think I told you that my debate
with the Socialist some of the Socialist students came up
to me and said that they've seen my videos on YouTube.
They knew who I was, and they had a certain
respect for me, even if they did disagreed. So yeah,
I mean, I think I'm more known but popular, I mean, yes,

(01:51:02):
but is it substantially greater than it was? I don't
know where do I see myself in ten years.

Speaker 3 (01:51:15):
In the movement. I don't know about the movement.

Speaker 2 (01:51:17):
It's it's very hard for me to tell because I
think the culture is declining the right and the left
and free fall, and so I don't know where the
world is in ten years. And if it's how to
tell where the movement is in ten is?

Speaker 3 (01:51:33):
I think we grow, we continue to grow.

Speaker 2 (01:51:35):
I don't think it turns exponential any time between now
and then. I don't think we suddenly have this massive increase.
I wish I wish it did. I would love to,
you know, triple my supporters and my subscribers, but primarily
my supporters. It would be nice to triple the income,
you know. That is my goal, ultimately, is to triple

(01:51:57):
the income I get from this show. That will be
a huge indication of success and and popularity. Uh Can
I do that in ten years?

Speaker 3 (01:52:07):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:52:08):
Maybe double, uh, maybe triple. But it's it's gonna be
it's gonna be really really really hard, you know, And
I and I and I sometimes don't know what it's
gonna take. There's some months where I get a huge
number of not a huge I get a decent number
of additional subscribers. Like right now, I'm getting a nice

(01:52:29):
steady flow of subscribers. Maybe that's because of some of
the interviews I've done recently, Maybe because I'm more active
on Twitter. I don't know, but there's a nice increase
in subscribers, not massive, but a nice increase. Other months
I have nothing. It's zero or negative. So and I
don't know exactly why it's it's hot. I don't see that.

(01:52:51):
I haven't figured out the exact cause of relationship. So
I think we'll be I'm pretty sure. I'm sure we'll
be bigger, more influential, more substantial, more passionate followers. But
whether it's it's already game changing, whether it's exponential in

(01:53:13):
any phase of exponential growth, I just don't know. I
hope so.

Speaker 3 (01:53:18):
I would like to believe.

Speaker 2 (01:53:19):
So. I also hope that it ten years a lot
more objectivist public intellectuals out there doing what I do
and things similar to what I do. That you don't
know where to look, because you know, across the entire
YouTube dial there are dozens of these objectives talking and
you don't who to You know, there's so much good
material you do know who to follow. I hope you'll

(01:53:41):
stay loyal to the Rue Bookshow right as you as
you you know, expose yourself to new objectivist intellectuals. Lincoln,
I'd happily donate to environmentalist groups who buy the national
parks if they got privatized. Yeah, I would too. I
think that's an old question he had a few days ago,

(01:54:04):
like numbers six nine thoughts on Trasinski running for Congress
as a Democrat. Oh, I didn't know he was doing that.
Look I I you know, I disagree with Trissinsky on
certain issues. I certainly disagree with Trasinsky on his support
for the for the Athletic Society, and uh, since I

(01:54:25):
think has has shown an incredible amount of disrespect to
me in the distant past. But you know, his stance
on Trump has always been good. His stance on Trump
right now is particularly good. He is one of the
best commentator out there about Trump. He sees him for
the evil that he really is, and I.

Speaker 3 (01:54:43):
Give him credit for that.

Speaker 2 (01:54:45):
And uh, yeah, I'm happy he's running. Uh he'll get
some good ideas out there. The fact that he's running
as a Democrat, I don't care, it doesn't make any difference.
Certainly couldn't run as a Republican. I mean, I think
he's got more chance of attracting some attention from reasonable
people on the Democratic side than he does on the

(01:55:06):
Publican side.

Speaker 3 (01:55:07):
The Republican side right now is hopeless. It's just hopeless.

Speaker 2 (01:55:13):
It's completely dedicated to the tribe of Trump. So maybe
a little bit of shock therapy on the other side,
criticizing Trump and coming out for Elizafey capitalism will wake
some Democrats up advocating for a reason.

Speaker 3 (01:55:34):
So yeah, good for him.

Speaker 2 (01:55:36):
You know, Lincoln Gaffney, I just just embrace, Oh, he says,
just embrace the nostalgia of the fifties when my grandma
had two dresses when she was a girl, and grandfather
had three pairs of shoes, and they only had two
dollars between them, only had two dollars. I mean, that's
what Trump plant's right. It's so off. I have to

(01:56:01):
make exhaust I have to make exhaustion of choosing between
my many pairs of Nike Jordan's, and my sister has
too many dresses to choose from. Well, don't worry, because
Trump is going to limit you to two pairs of shoes,
one pencil, and two dollars, and you can't have more
than that dresses. I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:56:21):
I don't know what Trump's.

Speaker 2 (01:56:22):
Plan is for how many dresses is okay, But I'm
sure he has a plan. The new nationalism will reduce
your choices just like communism did. Don't worry about it, Lincoln,
My future careers are right. In public intellectual is weak
and feminine. What thank goodness, Trump will give me a

(01:56:44):
super manly steel manufacturing job. Weak and feminine, Not at all.
It's strong and masculine.

Speaker 3 (01:56:52):
You're gonna be.

Speaker 2 (01:56:53):
Standing up in front of audiences and inspiring them to
make their lives better, what can be more masculine? And
then that, what's your opinion of Trump leaning to providing
Turkey with f thirty fives. I mean, he's pretty much
committed to doing it them in Saudi Arabia, and it's
a horrible idea. I think Turkey should be kicked out

(01:57:15):
of NATO. I think Turkey should be viewed as a
potential threatened enemy, you know, as long as it has
a political party and a president, a politic party in
the majority and a president who are Islamists, which Oduan is.

(01:57:36):
I think it's hollow. Liam. A lot of alt right
meaning and trolling came from Silicon Valley. Unfortunately, it isn't
the case. That's super smart people are automatically immune from
hate in the iriationology, that's true. But super productive people,
I mean, look at the Lund Musk so this is
immediately refute what I have to say. But super productive people,

(01:57:57):
for the most part, super productive people, and they don't
they don't. They're not this.

Speaker 3 (01:58:04):
Superficial when it comes to politics.

Speaker 2 (01:58:07):
I don't think. I mean, I just are not so
anti intellectual. Maybe I'm wrong, but and again my experience
in Silicon Valley is not that good. But I expect
again what we see the vocal minority. I'm curious about
what the majority actually thinks. Ryan. Can Congress defund ice

(01:58:32):
if there was a majority in favor of it.

Speaker 3 (01:58:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:58:34):
Absolutely. They actually dramatically increase the funding vice by something
like sixty billion dollars. I think it went from something
like twenty to eighty or something like that, so massively
increase the funding vice, but they could decrease it Roland
in the nineteen fifties, the Communists were aiming to make

(01:58:55):
hungry the land of iron and steel and telling people
they didn't need to eat that much much. It didn't
end well for them in nineteen fifty six. Now, but
remember that's what Mao tried to do to China. It's
why all these people left their farms and were starving,
because they were supposed to make steel an iron, and
they were supposed to stop farming. Farming was primitive and
the Communist will get industrialize.

Speaker 3 (01:59:18):
And that ended.

Speaker 2 (01:59:20):
With twenty thirty forty fifty million dollars, fifty million people dead.
We don't know exactly what the number is, all right,
We have moved into the third hour, so we are
thirty dollars only thirty dollars short of our second hour goal.
So let's at least make the second hour goal given
them way in the third hour. Sob about a couple

(01:59:41):
of twenty dollars questions or twenty dollars a ten dollars question,
or three ten dollars questions. But let's let's get over
the hump, hop a Campbell. Will the future of dictatorships
be soft dictatorships? People won't be starving in the streets,
and we'll still have access to Wi Fi. But if
the powers to be don't don't like you, you will disappear.
I think it's going to be yeah, Chinese Russian type.

(02:00:05):
There's more freedom in China than in Russia type authoritarianism.
I think Putin is a model. People's quality of life
will go down. They won't stop in the street, but
they and maybe they'll have Wi Fi. But there won't
be any progress. They won't advance, it won't get better,
There'll be stagnation and there'll be lack of freedom. I

(02:00:26):
think that's that's right. I think that is the future
in the medium term. In ten twenty three years, Ryan
in Canada, representatives can cross the floor and join another
party to swing votes to Parliament. Why doesn't this happen
in Congress? You would think bipartisanship would against Trump would

(02:00:49):
be on the rise. It has happened in the past many, many,
many times. I mean it still happens periodically today. But
it won't happen unless Trump approves it because Republicans are sheep.
They are completely tribal, and they won't let it happen.
There may be two or three Senators who dare vote
against Trump, but that's it, and that's not enough to

(02:01:12):
get anything substantive past and in the House almost nobody
is willing to stand up to Trump. So it's the
tribalism that Trump is inspired. But in the past there
was a lot of bipartisanship, usually bad in a sense
of more statius regulations, but it was bipartisan.

Speaker 3 (02:01:32):
Loan to center.

Speaker 2 (02:01:33):
A new inn Ran collection called Collectivism and Obituary. Conservatism
and Habituary should be published with their Essay on the
Right and Essays Writers and uncomrent issues simultaneous with the
third edition of the New Left. That's a good idea.
That's a good idea. I'll float it to some of
the people at the Iron Ran Institute Clark says, why

(02:01:57):
is they Friant so much more effective than Richard Spencer
at spreading his white nationalist nihilism.

Speaker 3 (02:02:02):
I think because fint this is funny.

Speaker 2 (02:02:06):
I think it's because he's he's got this constant smoke
in his face. He's got more charisma, which expensively just
didn't have any charisma. And hey, Coointess has charisma. He
is a much better communicator. He's on every day. He
talks to young people in their language. He understands them,
he appeals to them, but he uses a lot of

(02:02:29):
humor and he is not afraid to challenge all the
sacred cows. But do it in a way where he's
half serious, you know, do it in a way that
I think appeals to a audience that grew up on

(02:02:51):
on the Simpsons and on what do you call that
other show? The show that ridicules everything everything? What was it?

Speaker 3 (02:03:02):
It's still going today.

Speaker 2 (02:03:04):
They're making fun of Trump now, the guys who made
a book of Mormon south Park. I mean, he he
he is so appropriate for generation and grew up in
south Park. He has he's just just cynicism about everything

(02:03:26):
and everything's okay, everything's okay. To make fun of everything's okay,
to believe in everything's okay, to challenge everything's okay, to yeah, everything.
And I think that's that's the that's the South Park generation,
not your's algorithm. With Trump, there is no grand ideological

(02:03:47):
strategy like with Hitler. It just ranges of the moment
corruption and power lusting that that very well could fizzle
out when he's gone. Yes, But then the question is
will it gets off into somebody more ideological, like Jdvans,
or like somebody on the left that we haven't discovered
yet that could siphon that energy to some authoritarian project

(02:04:11):
project on the left. Nachavi's algorithm says people like Gavin McGinnis.
I think I was on a show once and I
was making such good arguments and immigration that he couldn't
answer that he basically disconnected me.

Speaker 3 (02:04:28):
Anyway.

Speaker 2 (02:04:29):
People, the video is online somewhere. People like Gavin McGinnis
and Stephen Crowder are touting for Intis as a genius
far we handled perm Morgan, whereas Bill O'Reilly and other
boomer Republicans are the ones attacking the Fentis phenomenon. Yeah,
I mean, I think people who are connected to the
younger generation, people who have that more cynical attitude, people

(02:04:53):
that are willing to flirt with racism, anti s sematism,
fascist ideas a much more. I mean sadly, it's the
Bill O'Reillys of the world that made frantis possible, that
made the whole phenomena possible. I've talked about that, right,

(02:05:13):
but yeah, I can see that Stephen Crowder would would
do that, right. I think matn Waalish if he, if
he wasn't a daily wire, would be much more supportive
of Gevin of affluentas. Uh. This is how they're thinking
is now. Whether the phenomena coffuents it don't grow from here,

(02:05:35):
but where it'll peak and then crash, I don't know.
But the general willingness to embrace or to at least
tolerate Holocaust denying neo Nazi types, that.

Speaker 3 (02:05:49):
That's going to grow.

Speaker 2 (02:05:50):
That's going to grow, I think it says nineteen twenty
nineteen seventy was the worth fiftyeth period for the country.
Seventeen seventy to eighteen twenty was founded. This country went
west from eighteen twenty to eighteen seventy. Industrialization from eighteen
seventy to nineteen twenty was industrialization and digitalization from nineteen

(02:06:13):
seventy to twenty twenty.

Speaker 3 (02:06:14):
Yeah, I agree with you.

Speaker 2 (02:06:16):
Nineteen twenty to nineteen seventy is probably the worst fifty years.
Loan Descenter. Everyone who reread and listened to Iran's Photo
Forum Talk and Nations Unity sadly never anthologized and available
as text only in the ARII ladup the anadote to nationalism.

(02:06:36):
YB should do a show on it. It's a good idea.
I should do a show on a nation's unity. It's
a great essay. Let me just do something on said
all right, Andrew Stephen Miller is a good art to

(02:06:59):
motivated fear and hate. He practically yells when he preaches.
Would you call his further being passionate or does passion
the note values? That's a good question. I don't know
it's I think it is passion. I don't think passion

(02:07:25):
of the notes in might general he could. I mean
he's he's it's fear and hate that motivate him. But
I think he can be. It's presented as a value
in some sense. By the way, you can listen to

(02:07:48):
a nation's unity on nine Man Institute website. Just put
a Nation's Unity uh in Google and you'll get the
recording of her talk. James thoughts on Mamdanni closing Rica's Island.
Is the jail too inhumane or reopen or is this

(02:08:10):
a major act of nihilism and destabilization? You know, I
don't know, and it depends what he does. Are those
innates going to go to a different jail? Are they
going to be released into the public. I mean, I
think it's too early to evaluate Mumdannie as nihilistic or
not and what exactly will happen. I don't think Rica's
Island in and of itself tells us much. It has

(02:08:34):
a bad reputation as a pretty rundown jail and a
horrible place. But what does he do with the inmates
and what does he do in the future is going
to be much more telling in terms of is he nihilistic?
Ryan Puerto Rico is over ninety five percent Christian. Does
this dominate dominance of religion have an impact on territories

(02:08:56):
progress and growth? Is there any downside when living there? Well?
I mean they celebrate all the Catholic holidays and they
invent a few to add, just to take time off.
They are quite left wing, which is true of most
Catholic communities outside of the United States. So in that

(02:09:21):
sense it has an impact. I'm sure it has an
impact on the fact that it's not very functional island.
I'm sure it has an impact on the prevalence against of.

Speaker 3 (02:09:32):
Leftist ideas.

Speaker 2 (02:09:33):
No cista but.

Speaker 3 (02:09:35):
Low productivity.

Speaker 2 (02:09:38):
Yeah, I don't know. I would need to know a
lot more about the workings of Puerto Rico to be
able to tell you, and I just have not doven
into it. It has an awful tax system, terrible regulation
system that then coves out special programs of different industries.

Speaker 3 (02:10:00):
And that's who comes here.

Speaker 2 (02:10:02):
So Kim says, to play Devil's advocate, isn't Stephen Miller
talking about illegals who can't speak English bringing down test
goals in schools? Well, first, if you meant that, he
should say so. But his argument, you know, doesn't certainly
doesn't play with regard to crime, because illegals, even illegals,

(02:10:23):
have lower crime rates than Americans. What was the third
the thing? He yeah, I can't you remember. Maybe it's
sure illegals sending their kids to school, lowering test scales.

Speaker 3 (02:10:41):
Maybe that's right. I don't know. I don't know how
true that is.

Speaker 2 (02:10:47):
And yeah, make them legal and the encourage legal immigration,
and my bet is it will have very little effect
and test scores. And look, the real problem of education
system is education system. It's our teachers in the curriculum.

(02:11:08):
It's not the population of kids. What is it about
immigrant kids that can't do math? Nothing, There's nothing about
them that precludes doing math. There's nothing about him, that
about being an immigrant that precludes getting a good score
in any test. So you've got to say it's the teachers.

(02:11:32):
Even if they were legal, why would they drag down
the scores? I think that is suggestive of bad teachers
and bad curriculum, bad administrators.

Speaker 3 (02:11:46):
Lincoln.

Speaker 2 (02:11:47):
Maybe Trump will bring back the supermanly sport of gladiator matches.
It's so much or watching it for entertainment for the emperor. Yeah,
as long as the lions eat the illegal immigrants, right
that that that's the new that's the new gladiator sport.
Jonah sitting aside Thomas Massey's bill, should the United States

(02:12:09):
remain in NATO or should it plan and eventually withdraw
and limits an involvement to cases where core American interests
are at stake. I'd be saying this for many, many decades.
I think I believe the United States should leave NATO.
It should do it in an organized, thoughtful way over time, and.

Speaker 3 (02:12:30):
Yes it should.

Speaker 2 (02:12:31):
It should limit its involvement to cases where core American
interests are at stake. It should do it, but it
should make it clear that that's what it's doing, and
that it will leave over a period of five years
or ten years old. You'd have to You'd have to
know a lot more about the situation to determine how
and when it should be done. But yes, I do
think in the end, the United States should leave NATO.

(02:12:54):
Europe is too rich. It's not competing in the United States,
but it's too rich compared to Russia, let's say, to
need American help to defend itself.

Speaker 3 (02:13:06):
James says, keep on keeping on.

Speaker 2 (02:13:08):
I'm not sure what keeping on means, but I'll try
to keep on, all right, Lincoln. I saw a New
York Times article complaining about how not enough young men read.
I've noticed young guys see reading as weak, feminine, gay,
which is sad.

Speaker 3 (02:13:26):
Yeah, I mean that is pathetic. It's worse than sad.

Speaker 2 (02:13:29):
You can't know anything Without reading, you remain any gnoramous
without reading. Even listening is not the same. Listening to
audiobooks is not the same as reading. You should read.

Speaker 3 (02:13:41):
Everybody should read.

Speaker 2 (02:13:42):
When you're young, you should read, read, read, read, read,
read read. That's manly because it's the pursuit of knowledge
is manly, Lincoln, there are eighty million American men from
eighteen to thirty four, even five percent of profiantis that's

(02:14:03):
four million men. Yeah, But the seventy six million men
who are not profiantists, it's a big number, way too big,
no question about that. Some of the least masculine men
I know are obsessed with going to the gym, being misogynists,
very fragile masculinity. Yeah, masculinity is associated with self esteem,

(02:14:28):
with courage, with ability to face reality and deal with reality.
It's not about going to the gym, and it's suddenly
it's it's very non masculine to be a misogynist. Women
should be adored and respected and admired and loved and

(02:14:52):
so on, you know, not treated badly. Treating women badly
is a very unmasculine fear. Matt, I wanted you to
come to speak to my office in New York City
real estate agents by capitalism. I'm Donnie, but my company
unfortunately won't touch anything political. Yeah, I know, it's pretty prevalent.

(02:15:14):
That's why universities are the easiest. They tend to accept
a variety of points of view. Link in any tips
on starting a live YouTube show like yours. Thinking of
starting a weekly live podcast and would like to get
some advice. I mean, basically, you just have to do it.
You just have to start and do it and try

(02:15:35):
to get a small following and it'll slowly grow. Advertise it,
try to go on other people's podcasts. But the key
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and you will slowly build an audience and if there's
enough value added there, it'll grow significantly. The Dodo Bunny

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is Doctor Peacock predicting a full blow Nazi takeo of
Western civilization Western countries for a period of time, or
or half hearted flirtation with Nazism, authoritarianism slightly worse than
we have now, when is very I mean ominous powers
and dim I think he's predicting a period of time

(02:16:17):
of authoritarianism. I don't think he's predicting Nazism necessarily, but
a real authoritarianism much more than we have now, significantly
worse than we have now. And I don't think he's
clear and how long it lasts, but you can read
them and ominous powows yourself and make it decide what

(02:16:40):
he's saying yourself from that. All right, guys, thank you
to all the super shatters the stick of people. Really
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same time, same place. Have a great rest of your week.
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