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That might be fun. All right, let's jump in.

Speaker 1 (03:33):
So over the weekend, the Ukrainians sent over a delegation
to meet just like the Russians had in Miami. Miami
is the place to be.

Speaker 2 (03:45):
In Miami.

Speaker 1 (03:45):
It's a meet and to discuss a peace agreement with
the Russians. And they spent whole weekend and they met
with Rubio and wit Cough and Jared Kushna. Jared Kushner,
the President's son in law that has Yeah, I don't

(04:06):
know Jared Kushner. You know, I don't know exactly what
his role is, but Jared Kushner, who got the AVAM
accords going so has gained a lot of from polse
chops from that.

Speaker 2 (04:18):
And of course the Jared Kushner that is uh.

Speaker 1 (04:21):
Seems to squeeze out quite a few billions of dollars
into his funds and stuff like that from all these dealings.
So the Jared Kushner together with Wikoff, who are also
very much entangled with the Russians and all kinds of
business propositions and potential business partnerships. So yeah, I mean,

(04:45):
we know, you know Whitcoff told the Wall See Journal.
You know, Russia has many vast resources, vast expenses of land,
and it would be great, you know, to have deals
with him, right, So we talked about Witcoff is in
his relationship with Russia is very friendly. Relationship with Russia

(05:07):
is clear pro Russian stance. I think we can say
the same thing probably with Jared Kushna.

Speaker 2 (05:12):
I mean, at the end of the day, Ukrainian.

Speaker 1 (05:18):
Corruption only goes so far, you know, in a sense
of feeding these people like that.

Speaker 2 (05:23):
That was good enough for Hunter Biden to be on a.

Speaker 1 (05:26):
Board in Ukraine, and I don't know, get a couple
of million dollars or whatever that was. But Kushia and
Witcoff are not going for a few millions of dollars.
They're going for billions or nothing at all. So they're
much more likely to be pro Russia. Anyway, they met,
they negotiated a bunch of stuff, supposedly prospects of a landswap.

(05:49):
Ukraine does not want a permanent settlement in the sense
that it does not want international recognition of the land
that Russia has it invaded, and it's taken from Ukraine
since really twenty fourteen and in particularly twenty twenty two.

(06:09):
You know, there's still I don't think it's worked out,
security guarantees.

Speaker 2 (06:13):
Membership of NATO.

Speaker 1 (06:15):
Ukraine is still objecting to a lot of these things,
but some progress has been made on some things they
clean right, you know, Rubio is clearly here a bulwark
against the kind of pro the explicitly pro Russia portion

(06:36):
of the US government. Right now, remember that all of
this was supposed to be done before Thanksgiving. Trump put
a deadline, and I think then Ruber got involved and
calmed everything down and slowed everything up.

Speaker 2 (06:49):
But Rubio's trying to get.

Speaker 1 (06:53):
Trying to get Ukraine's concerns on the table. I don't
think Wikoff and kushnak one iota about the Ukrainians. I
don't think Trump cares about the Ukrainians. So it's like
Rubio against the trump Ists.

Speaker 2 (07:09):
I don't know how this is going to turn out.

Speaker 1 (07:11):
Kushna and Wikoff are flying to Russia today to continue
he talks with the Russians. Witcoff is supposed to meet
with Putin next week. Last time he met with Putin,
he completely got the offer that Putin made wrong, and
the consequence of that meeting with Putin was the disastrous
meeting between Trump and Putin in Alaska. But Trump continues

(07:36):
to trust Whitcoff. They've got some good deals going together.
And in spite of the Wickcoff phone call being intercepted
and leaked and revealed and Witcuff setting up the Russians
on how to deal with Trump, Trump doesn't seem to
care about those things. Yeah, I mean, he's all in
with Whitcuff. He's all in with this administration. He noticed

(07:58):
he hasn't replaced many of his people. Nothing is competed.
The first to first, uh, you know, run of of
Trump as president, where there was a lot of change,
particularly in the from policy and national security side, now
there isn't a lot.

Speaker 2 (08:15):
Uh. And Trump seems to be playing.

Speaker 1 (08:21):
Uh Marco Rubio against Kushna and Witcuff and and seeing
how that plays out.

Speaker 2 (08:28):
But generally I am worried.

Speaker 1 (08:31):
I'm worried because it definitely seems like uh Trump and
uh uh and the uh and Witcuff thoroughly pro Russia.
They want to get this over with. They'd like to
find a way to squeeze Ukraine without upsetting too many
people in Congress and without upsetting maybe some of the Europeans,

(08:54):
and finding a way to do it. I doubt that
that's possible, but uh, you know, they keep they keep
at it, they keep trying. My guess is Putin is
going to say no to all the changes that Ukraine
has made in the plan. You know, Putin wants this
word to go on or to get everything he wants.

Speaker 2 (09:18):
I don't think Putin can afford a deal that he.

Speaker 1 (09:22):
Can't present to the Russian people's total victory, and therefore
he has to keep going. Yeah, I mean Putin has
said when Ukrainian troops leave the territories they hold Ukrainian territories.
I'm at it, then the fighting will stop. If they don't,

(09:43):
then we'll achieve that through military means.

Speaker 2 (09:46):
You know. The reality is to the other way around.

Speaker 1 (09:49):
When the Russians leave the territory that's not theirs, when
they send their troops home, then there will be peace.
But Trump is going with the Ukrainian side, or at
least flirting with that, not willing to put any pressure
on Russia. We talked about that, no tariffs on Russia.
Really the sanctions are you know, could be much tougher

(10:13):
that they're not that tough. And Trump keeps winking and
nodding towards Putin. He keeps supporting Putin, he keeps supporting
peace deals that get Puts In everything he wants. And
he clearly doesn't like Ukraine and he doesn't like Zelenski.
So you know, they really it's just a it's just
a phone policy disaster. And for those of you, again

(10:38):
who don't know what's what's in it for the United States,
what's in it for the United States? Isn't it in
the United States is a member of NATO. The United
States is committed to the defense of Europe.

Speaker 2 (10:47):
One way or the other.

Speaker 1 (10:48):
You want to get out of NATO, get out of NATO,
but for now we're in NATO. A Russian victory in
these negotiations over Ukraine will only in bold in Russia
to go after NATO members, and then that involves the
Unit States. It puts the United States at war with Russia.
Russia is, has been and is a at the very

(11:10):
least a potential enemy of the United States, if an
an explicit enemy of the United States. Russia challenges the
United States and all of our agendas around the world,
and you know, pandering to them is an absolute, unmitigated disaster.
The reality is, as much as you might not like Europe,
Europe are the United States allies. Europe generally support the

(11:33):
United States in terms of its I don't know what
the United States wants to do in the world, and
you know that part of Western civilization, and Russia is
an enemy of Western civilization, so you know, you don't
have to go to war with Russia. Nobody wants to
go to the war with Russia because of nuclear power

(11:55):
and nuclear bombs. But the argument is the way to
avoid war with Russia for the United States is.

Speaker 2 (12:06):
Going all out into support of Ukraine.

Speaker 1 (12:08):
I don't know why I have to keep repeating this,
but it seems like people just just.

Speaker 2 (12:14):
Want to support Russia.

Speaker 1 (12:15):
They don't want the United States supporting Ukraine. They don't
want the United States involved in international stuff unless Trump
wants it.

Speaker 2 (12:25):
Like in Venezuela, which we'll get to in a little bit.

Speaker 1 (12:30):
In the meantime, in Ukraine, the regime is being rattled
again by more corruption investigations. Corruption investigations that are people
close to Zelenski. Corruption investigations that led to Zelenski's top
aid and chief negotiator with the Americans around this peace

(12:51):
deal to you know, investigators actually searching his home and
forcing him to so a corruption scandal is getting very
close to Zelensky and certainly people within Zelensky's orbit. And

(13:11):
you know, I know a lot of people are kind
of freaking out giving Ukraine money and we're supporting Ukraine,
and look how corrupt they are.

Speaker 2 (13:18):
And this is and the reality is that these corruption investigations.

Speaker 1 (13:25):
Are a really good thing. There's a sign that Ukrainians
are interested in and open to cleaning shop getting rid
of corruption. It's an incredibly corrupt regime has been historically
as all Eastern European regimes are former Eastern European regimes.

Speaker 2 (13:47):
I mean, some of them are much much.

Speaker 1 (13:49):
Better, like Czech Republic and Poland, but others, mainly a
Bulgaria and so on, are quite corrupt. And the fact
that they're cleaning up, and the fact that that Zelensky
is willing to let this commission keep investigating even as
it's getting close to his own, you know, his own people,

(14:16):
is a good sign. It's a good sign. It's a
sign that Zelensky is willing to let this happen. I imagine, imagine, imagine.

Speaker 2 (14:31):
This happening in Russia.

Speaker 1 (14:35):
I mean, Putin might be the most corrupt politician in
all of human history.

Speaker 2 (14:41):
Is just in terms of the sheer.

Speaker 1 (14:44):
Magnitude of the amount of money he has stolen from
the Russian treasury. We're talking about potentially hundreds of billions
of dollars. Nobody really knows the amount of money that
Putin has tucked away.

Speaker 2 (14:58):
In various plays around the world. And you know, he
is untouchable.

Speaker 1 (15:06):
Nobody's gonna investigate corruption in the Russian government.

Speaker 2 (15:11):
I mean, if you do, if you try, if you begin.

Speaker 1 (15:15):
Guess what happens. I mean, I'm just guessing. I don't know, right,
it's just speculation. We're just speculating here on your own bookshow.
I guess you probably fall out of a window. I
mean it's suicide, and you probably stab yourself on the
way down between between the eyes, but you probably fall
out of the window. So there's much much, much much

(15:38):
much much much much much much more.

Speaker 2 (15:40):
Corruption in Russia than there is in Ukraine. And Russia
is not investigated.

Speaker 1 (15:45):
Now, if you're an American, you might say, well, if
you're you're Peon, you might say, yeah, but Russia is
not taking all money Ukraine is. And that's true, and
that's why we should encourage the investigation. We should support it,
and we should you know, celebrate the fact that these
investigations are going on, and that as we continue to

(16:06):
support Ukraine, if we do, the likelihood of corruption in
high places is going to go down because we have
a government there that is committed to trying to weed
out weed out corruption. So you know, in in in China,
for example, corruption is often used.

Speaker 2 (16:29):
I mean, China's a very corruptus very corrupt iie.

Speaker 1 (16:32):
I mean the members of the Communist Party and people
in positions of power cyphon a lot of the money
to their own pockets, and there are many of them
are kind of the neu vau rich in the new rich.

Speaker 2 (16:43):
Everybody's new rich in Russia.

Speaker 1 (16:45):
Really in China, but many of them are rich in China,
but uh, it's.

Speaker 2 (16:57):
In China.

Speaker 1 (16:58):
Corruption investigations also also used to root out opponents of
the current leader. Right, she has mastered this, but a
lot of it is corruption. I mean it does seem
like here it's getting very close to Zelenski. So it's
not about rooting out opposition, it's about really finding people

(17:19):
who are engaged in siphening off money that is supposed
to go to.

Speaker 2 (17:27):
You know, to actually buy weapons systems and help.

Speaker 1 (17:33):
The Ukrainian economy and so on, and the siphoning off
to their own pockets in one way or the other.

Speaker 2 (17:39):
So good for the investigation.

Speaker 1 (17:41):
It's sad that there's this much corruption in a place
at war like Ukraine.

Speaker 2 (17:45):
Is you think that during war.

Speaker 1 (17:48):
People would rise above these issues corruption turns out, no,
corruption is so endemic in some of these cultures, and
in this case, in the culture of of Ukraine, that
even during a war it persists. It persists, all right,

(18:09):
so you know, I'll keep you updated. There's the yoyo
that is Ukraine Russia, piece deal Trump witkof all this
stuff is just continue. It is interesting, isn't it that
Rubio is not going to Russia.

Speaker 2 (18:24):
Rubio is not going to Russia. Interesting?

Speaker 1 (18:30):
And by the way, the special Envoy like Whitcoff is
Special Envoy to Russia.

Speaker 2 (18:34):
I think the Special.

Speaker 1 (18:37):
Envoy for Ukraine resigned a week or two ago uh
and is leaving his post and Sankley who will fill
that role?

Speaker 2 (18:45):
Maybe I think it might be a Secretary of the Army.

Speaker 1 (18:48):
Uh and And it is interesting because he was very
pro Ukraine, and maybe that's why he's leaving, because nobody
will listen to him in the Trump administration.

Speaker 2 (18:57):
Basically, the entire argument for Ukraine.

Speaker 1 (19:01):
Is now in you know, Rubio is it, And there's
nobody else in the Trump administration has any I.

Speaker 2 (19:09):
Mean, we know we know that Vance is definitely anti Ukraine, right,
so there's just no voice there, all right, Moving on
the farm party arc, moving from Ukraine to Venezuela.

Speaker 1 (19:29):
As we've talked about, the United States has a sizeable
military force in the Caribbean Sea. Indeed, the largest military
force the United States has had in the Caribbeans. UH
since since the Cuban missile crisis. We've got the largest
aircraft carrier in the US that the US has or

(19:50):
in the world really, which is the USS Ford.

Speaker 2 (19:54):
It is in the Caribbean.

Speaker 1 (19:55):
UH. It is accompanied, of course by a whole variety
of other ships and and assets. We have recommissioned both
the naval base and I think IFO strips in Puerto Rico,
and there's a real military presence in Puerto Rico. You
can fly F thirty fives and IF sixteen from Puerto
Rico to Venezuela pretty easily above and beyond those who

(20:18):
can land and take off from the aircraft carrying and
of course you can fly B two's from anywhere in
the United States and with fueling. You can find any
number of airplanes from the US to Venezuela with fueling
in between. So the Anit States has a real significant presence,
but it doesn't seem like it's going to do anything
about it.

Speaker 2 (20:38):
Once in a while, Trump seems to threaten.

Speaker 1 (20:40):
He kind of indicated maybe he was closing Venezuela's airspace
a few days ago, and then nothing really happens, so
it wasn't really closed.

Speaker 2 (20:49):
It's not what happened there.

Speaker 1 (20:51):
But he seems to go in and out of We're
gonna go in there and crush them, or you know,
maybe we'll now, maybe we'll kind of deal.

Speaker 2 (20:58):
Let me talk to m a duo, maybe door can leave.

Speaker 1 (21:02):
And again there are two really two elements, it seems
within the Trump administration pushing for two different approaches to Venezuela.
One approach is Trump's approach, which I think is also
is backed up by a guy named Richard Grennell who

(21:23):
is a long time being associated with Trump and has
been Trump's guy Visa VI Venezuela since Trump's first administration
and Trump and Grunell's approaches make a deal, let's make
a deal.

Speaker 2 (21:37):
Let's make a deal.

Speaker 1 (21:38):
And the essential there is we want to access and
it's suckily a we here is.

Speaker 2 (21:43):
It the Trump family.

Speaker 1 (21:46):
I'm kidding, but it's the United States, US OL companies,
US companies and maybe the Trump family. We want to
access to the vast resources that Venezuela has. Remember, Venezuela
is sitting on the the largest reserve oil reserve in
the world. It's it's bigger than Saudi Arabia. It's bigger

(22:08):
than what the US has. So Valancoila has the largest
oil reserve in the world. It can't access it or
it accesses very difficult.

Speaker 2 (22:17):
So it's very expensive for them to access.

Speaker 1 (22:19):
It because they don't have the technology, they don't the capital,
they don't know the wherewithal to get to the oil.

Speaker 2 (22:26):
The oil is primarily offshore in the.

Speaker 1 (22:29):
In the Gulf of fill in the blank, Venezuela, the
Gulf of America, the Gulf of Mexico.

Speaker 2 (22:37):
Uh and uh.

Speaker 1 (22:40):
You know Trump once wants that now, you know, I
think in his first administration and maybe even now, one
tendency has is maybe we can just cut a deal
with a do or we don't have to get rid
of him.

Speaker 2 (22:52):
We'll just cut a deal. We'll get access to the oil.

Speaker 1 (22:55):
He'll promise us he'll give us something and and and
uh and that is it.

Speaker 2 (23:01):
That is it. And it continues to he continues to
do that, continues to I think floot with that option. Right.

Speaker 1 (23:10):
I love it when when people in my chat, you know,
know Trump inside out and know exactly what his next
move is.

Speaker 2 (23:17):
He's playing three D chess. Guys.

Speaker 1 (23:19):
It's a smoke screen. He's he's not gonna go in.
I agree, he's not going to coin. So that's like
goell and Trump. They want. Actually toppling the governor of
Venezuela is really easy, really easy. But Trump won't do it,
partially because he promised his base that he wouldn't start

(23:39):
new wars, partially because generals and phone policy people. In
spite of the fact that I think toppling a government
is really easy, people believe it's really really really hard,
including all the phone polsy gus and all these people
who think it's really really really hot. You know you are,

(24:00):
but you rock is. If everything is you rock is.
If you've got one example, then you can fit everything
in there. It's actually quite easy, particularly if you're willing
to actually engage in in assassination. But although they might
be a law that prevents America from engaging in assassination,
you could change the law. But he wants he wants
a deal, and that's good album. On the other hand,
you've got the same guys before Marco Rubio. Maybe what

(24:24):
we need his witcuff. We really need whitcuff. Whitcuff should
solved the Venezuelan problem. I think Whitcuff is the guy. Anyway,
You've got Marco Rubio and Marco Ubius from Florida form
senator to Florida.

Speaker 2 (24:35):
That's his base. Uh.

Speaker 1 (24:37):
You know, he has a lot of support in Miami
from Cuban and Venezuela and exiles who live in Miami,
and Marco Rubia's basically taken this made it his goal
to get rid of a duo and maybe even use
that as a stepping zone to get rid of the

(24:57):
regime in Cuba and act bring about a revolution in Cuba.

Speaker 2 (25:04):
I don't think it would be hard with Maduro.

Speaker 1 (25:06):
I think all you have to really do with Maduro
is scare the Jesus out of him. And I think
that's what the US is trying to do. It's trying
to scare him. It's trying to scare him into ultimately
cutting a deer.

Speaker 2 (25:17):
He just leaves.

Speaker 1 (25:20):
And let the opposition take over, although of course if
he leaves, it's not clear who will take over. It
could be another military dictator who takes over. But you
want to scare the whole leadership there so that they
allow the opposition to take control over Venezuela. And actually,
you know, set it up for a proper election. But

(25:43):
you know, so Marco Rubio has come up with the
strategy of using this idea of Maduro as some sort
of drug lord. Venezuela is not a primary player in
the drug in drugs, although it is a place where
drugs are being transited, but not to the United States.

(26:05):
Venezuela and drugs and you know, drugs going through Venezula
and not coming to the US. Venezuela and drugs are
getting going on ships and going to Africa.

Speaker 2 (26:16):
They're picked up in Africa pinarily.

Speaker 1 (26:18):
By the way, by Islamists, by remnants of Achaia and Isis,
and they're taken to Europe. Most of the drugs that
travel through Venezuela are going to Europe and need Europe
has a massive cocaine problem. Now, cocaine usage of Europe,
we talked about this on a show a few weeks ago,
has gone through the roof has escalated dramatically. Anyway, Rubio

(26:44):
has couched Maduro as a drug kingpin that is killing
Americans with drugs. As a consequence, Trump has brought the
whole you know this, this big portion of US Navy
into the Caribbean. They are blowing ships, boats, not even
ships boats out of the water. So far, they've killed

(27:06):
sixty five people in sixteen attacks with exactly zero presented
evidence in terms.

Speaker 2 (27:12):
Of who they are.

Speaker 1 (27:13):
But even if they're drug lords, even if they're smuggling drugs,
they're not smuggling them to the US because these boats
are too small, they could never get to the US,
that have to refuel twenty times, twenty times on the
way to get to the US.

Speaker 2 (27:26):
So they're not smuggling the drugs to the US. So,
you know, who knows who.

Speaker 1 (27:30):
These people are that are getting blown out of the water.
Who knows what are they doing. Maybe they're in drugs,
maybe they're not. But they pose exactly zero threats to
the US. And yet we're killing. No congressional authorization, no
quote of law, nothing, just killing.

Speaker 2 (27:50):
We'll get it there in a minute.

Speaker 1 (27:52):
And you know, generally using the killing as a threat
to Maduro to leave or or else. And of course
the whole acrect carry and all of that is just
to try to intimidate Maduro into living. Maduro is not
that you get to leave. He's got a pretty well
in Venezuela. It's not clear where he would go to

(28:14):
maybe Russia. I don't think other South American leaders want
him there. It's also not clear who is, you know,
who comes after Maduro and if he leaves, what happens
and whether Venezuela becomes a you know, just a mayhem.
It so so exactly what's going on in the background

(28:34):
and what happens in these conversations is is very hard
to tell, right, very hard to tell. And but this
ongoing debate within the Trump administration about deals, deals in
which Trump can somehow benefit from and in the US
benefit farm or military reaction, and it really does seem

(28:57):
like Trump.

Speaker 2 (29:00):
Doesn't want to get involved in military action.

Speaker 1 (29:02):
Again, he did promise, you know, he did promise not
to start new words. I mean, he is a one
Trump supporter. When somebody in the administration says President Trump
Trump ran on an agenda of America First. Unfortunately people
in his administration, I'm more focused on a South Florida

(29:24):
first agenda. So where this leads, where we go from
here is going to be really hard to tell. But
you know, again, you've got two different interests at play.
It would be great to see Maduro fall. It would

(29:47):
be great to see the Cuban regime fall and both
countries moved towards a greater freedom. Whether American troops should
be be live should be risked in order to achieve that,
I say no.

Speaker 2 (30:01):
If there are ways to eliminate.

Speaker 1 (30:03):
Maduro and overthrow the Cuban regime without American troops putting their.

Speaker 2 (30:09):
Lives in danger, yeah, I guess I'm all for that, But.

Speaker 1 (30:15):
We will see if that is possible and if that
is the path that is taken. So yeah, I mean,
I have no problem with regime change. I'm all for
regime changes.

Speaker 2 (30:27):
If they are evil regimes, but only.

Speaker 1 (30:35):
You know, if they don't pose a threat to American lives.
The change itself doesn't pose the threat to American lives
except in the case of enemy countries, countries that are enemies. Yeah,
that's the job of the American soldier is to fight
our enemies. So Iran, you can imagine the US launching
an attack to a place it's leadership North Korea, sorry,

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North Korea.

Speaker 2 (30:58):
You can imagine that. So we will see, we will see.

Speaker 1 (31:04):
Uh, you know, those are not going to happen because
they're too self interested. Madua might happen, but of course,
one of the one of the ways in which Rubio
manipulates Trump on this issue is.

Speaker 2 (31:22):
By claiming the Meduro.

Speaker 1 (31:26):
Is using mass migration northward into the United States to
destabilize America, and that of course MAGA and Trump cannot tolerate,
and that of course gives you know, gives impetus to
Trump to.

Speaker 2 (31:43):
Try to really really get rid of Maduro.

Speaker 1 (31:48):
So if you can link Madua to illegal immigration, the
the the the number one enemy of Americans according to Trump,
then maybe military action will be justified.

Speaker 2 (32:02):
Also relating to, you know, to what is going on
in UH, that is it's okay in the Caribbean.

Speaker 1 (32:16):
Is the story that that broke by the Washington Post,
I think over the weekend that has been denied by
the Trump administration and denied by Secretary of War heck
Seth Uh by which the Washington Post claimed that hex
Seth had actually had issued an order to kill.

Speaker 2 (32:38):
Boat crews.

Speaker 1 (32:40):
So that in in the I think it was the
first attack on one of these boats, you know, the
first bomb that hit the boat, destroyed the boat, killed
some of the people in the boat, but a drone
identified two survivors clinging.

Speaker 2 (32:57):
On to debris UH and still alive.

Speaker 1 (33:01):
And then because of hag Seth's general command to kill them,
kill everybody on the boat, not just.

Speaker 2 (33:10):
To stop the voat, but to kill them.

Speaker 1 (33:12):
Of course, you can stop the boat without killing anybody
if you know, as law enforcement would do.

Speaker 2 (33:22):
His command is to kill everybody.

Speaker 1 (33:24):
I supposely this is Washington Post that a second bomb
was dropped, killing the two survivors, and people are freaking
out over this. Congress wants an investigation. A lot of
Republicans are saying this is going too far. I mean,
only Republican who's been good on the bombing of boats

(33:46):
and killing people has been Rand Paul. It's really been
despicable to see that Congress has not made a much
bigger issue about this. I think Democrats feel like it's
not a winning prop It's not a winning issue. Americans
really care about killing brown people in the middle of
the Caribbean Sea on boats, and they trust the army
only to kill drug dealers. Bet this idea that Heset

(34:12):
might have given an order to kill everybody is something
that I think horrifi is a lot of people, and
there is some pushback against administration.

Speaker 2 (34:24):
Heset denies it.

Speaker 1 (34:26):
Trump has expressed full support for Heseth, and so far
Hecseth has survived all his little crises and is hanging on.

Speaker 2 (34:35):
But you can imagine Hecseth saying something like that.

Speaker 1 (34:38):
I suppose he was a verbal command, kill them all.
I want no survivors. It fits into his warrior mindset
that he wants the military to have, at least his interpretation.

Speaker 2 (34:50):
Of warrior mindset.

Speaker 1 (34:52):
So it's not crazy to believe that he actually said it,
but so farther denying it.

Speaker 2 (34:57):
I have no insert information. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (34:59):
I just think it's system with his mindset, and there
is with his kind of the way he speaks and
the way he acts. Uh.

Speaker 2 (35:06):
And there is growing, growing.

Speaker 1 (35:11):
Questioning in Capitol Hill, and you know, in Congress about this.
Maybe some Republicans are feeling a little uneasy us about
blowing up random boats on on on on the Caribbean.
C uh and and and maybe they'll they'll do some investigating.
Maybe I'll no, they won't stand up for Trump about this.

(35:32):
It just ain't happening. Congress is dead. We have a
you know, two branches of the government that function right now,
and that's the President and the and the and the
legal branch and the courts and the courts seem to
try to slow down Trump, but there's only so much
they can do without Congress. But Congress is basically impotent

(35:54):
and in default and and and you know, doing nothing,
doing nothing right, philosophical detective says, the more I analyze

(36:15):
the issue, the more it becomes it becomes clear that
legalizing drugs would eliminate most of the associated problems.

Speaker 2 (36:21):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 1 (36:25):
I mean, we're evolutionized, and we're not talking about decriminalizing,
We're not talking about tolerating. I'm talking about legalizing, legalizing absolutely,
that is the strategy. Would completely you know, change the
dynamics of Latin America, would change dynamics inside Mexico, and

(36:46):
it would it would completely eviscerate the cartels and the
various you know, organized crime organizations dedicated to the drug trade,
and it would reduce crime in the United States dramatically, dramatically.
All right, let's see. Yeah, pardons, God, pardons. The pardon

(37:16):
power is given by the Constitution to the President of
the United States, and it really is given without any qualifications,
without any limitations. And one has to really think, given
how the parton power is being abused now for decades, really,

(37:37):
but especially abused by the Biden administration and now the
Trump administration. There has to be a consideration of amending
the Constitution to either taking away the president's pardon power,
curtailing it, limiting it, allowing for some kind of review
of the process, some kind of quote of a site something.

(38:02):
But the current system, it's just so fought with corruption
and inside a dealing and and just straight out corruption.
I mean it goes back to people. I mean that
I remember that Bill Clinton, you know, pardoned, I forget
the guy's name, was living in Switzerland to escape legal

(38:23):
action against him in the United States, who was a
big time Democratic dona.

Speaker 2 (38:27):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (38:28):
You know, it goes to the fact that every president
of pardons people affiliated.

Speaker 2 (38:33):
With him in one way or the other. Uh.

Speaker 1 (38:36):
And and affiliated with the political party and with contributions
and everything. Mark Rich, thanks you Qubaya was Mark Ridge.
And then and then Biden's just unbelievable pardon of a
preempt to partner of himself and his entire family, which
is just ludicrous and absurd and ridiculous and probably illegal.

(38:56):
But you know, it's how to read, it's hot, it's
hot to it's how to figure out. I don't know
where the constitution where the swiming cord would get the
basis to rule it is unconstitutional. And now you just
get Trump, who it is just outright, you know, uh uh.

Speaker 2 (39:15):
Doing stuff that is just blatantly corrupt.

Speaker 1 (39:18):
You know, he he pardons, uh the the crypto exchange
guy who is uh who is about to sign a
deal with the Trump family.

Speaker 2 (39:31):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (39:32):
That basically, you know, makes the Trump family significant players
in the crypto space and and and and benefits them,
you know by a huge margin, right.

Speaker 2 (39:44):
Huge margin.

Speaker 1 (39:47):
And so that's uh uh.

Speaker 2 (39:52):
I forget his name, Zao what was his name. I've
got to hear what I've got to hear.

Speaker 1 (39:57):
Yeah, Chung Peing Zau right, who is a bin and
ceo you know, by the way, and by the way,
accused of money laundering for drug trafficking and other crimes. Now, look,
I'm not a big fan of money laundering laws. And
I don't know how guilty he is, and I don't
know exactly what happened, but the fact that the Trump
family had this deal just lined up and he got

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powdered and the deal went through.

Speaker 2 (40:22):
And the fact that this.

Speaker 1 (40:23):
Administration is killing people in the middle of a Caribbean
c because of drugs, and so is aggressively pursuing the
war on drugs, and a lot of that has to
do with money laundering and drug trafficking and.

Speaker 2 (40:35):
All of that.

Speaker 1 (40:37):
The whole thing is just I mean, on the one hand,
they're persecuting warn drugs. On another hand, they're pardoning people
who are laundering money for drugs.

Speaker 2 (40:46):
I mean, what the hell, what is up with that?
What is up with that? You know? And then you've.

Speaker 1 (40:55):
Got You've got over and over again Trump pardoning, you know,
people who are just from his from his universe, right,
you know, people who.

Speaker 2 (41:16):
People commit financial fraud?

Speaker 1 (41:18):
Was it? There's a hitge fund guy, you know, a
guy named Genteel and Schneider. Over several years, they use
their private equity funds to defort ten thousand investors by
misrepresenting the fuerformance of the funds and the source of
money used to make monthly distribution payments. More than a
thousand people submitted statements attesting to their losses. You know,

(41:44):
these were small business owners, farmers. I mean, some of
this seems dubious to me because small business owners, farmers, veterans, teachers,
nurses can invest in private equity. So you know, I'm
not sure what this story, but you know, the guy
was prosecuted.

Speaker 2 (42:02):
By you know these things in.

Speaker 1 (42:04):
New York and after raising one point six billion dollars
of individual investors based on false promises of generating investment returns.

Speaker 2 (42:14):
Again, I don't know, but.

Speaker 1 (42:18):
You know, the business has been characterized as a Ponzi scheme.
Prosecutors did, and Trump's pardoned it. He's sending jail and
he's pardoning him. I mean, is there an argument here
that it was a bad prosecution. The guy was actually innocent,
It wasn't financial fraud, it didn't really happen. I haven't

(42:40):
seen that argument. Maybe he's just out there, but I
really haven't seen it. And now and now, you know,
Trump decided to get involved in the Honduran presidential race,
which is happening I guess this week's voting is happening
in this week, and he is backing kind of the
right wing candidate against a Marxist, which which is fine,

(43:02):
but he's back in this candidate. It's part of the
fact that he said, oh, if he wins, I'll give in.

Speaker 2 (43:06):
It to Hondua.

Speaker 1 (43:08):
Sorry all the supports and this is a good guy
and I support him, and I want Hondus to be successful,
and again I'll support he said. And by the way,
if he wins, I'll I'll pardon the former president of uh,
you know, honduas who was prosecuted for you know, drug

(43:33):
trafficking into the United States.

Speaker 2 (43:44):
It's just.

Speaker 1 (43:47):
You know, this is Juan Orlando Hernandez, convicted drug trafficker,
former Honduan president.

Speaker 2 (43:55):
Tom's going to pardon him.

Speaker 1 (43:57):
He's again blowing up you know, the poor, you know,
poor people who are happen to be maybe smuggling these drugs,
killing all of those but the people behind them, all
the heads of these things, which it sounds like Hernande's
was the big shots. No, he's gonna pardon him. He's

(44:20):
one of the good guys. Yeah, it's uh, it's pretty crazy.
And but this is this is Trump.

Speaker 2 (44:37):
Pardon's right. I mean, if you actually go through with this.

Speaker 1 (44:45):
What's incompatibility. I mean, I'm fine with saying, look, drugs
should be le realized. Pardon everybody unless you were involved
in murder, But all all the just trafficking, drug trafficking
should not be a charge.

Speaker 2 (44:58):
Pardon them all, send them all home.

Speaker 1 (45:00):
All the people in jail today for drug violations that
do not involve violent crime should be sent home.

Speaker 2 (45:06):
I'm fine with that once you legalized drugs. But this
is I'm blowing.

Speaker 1 (45:10):
People up and I'm pardoning a kingpin. It just it
just it's the insanity. And this brings me to this
essay that I read this weekend by Andrew Sullivan. Andrew
Sullivan the Weekly Dish. You can find him at The
Weekly Dish. He's got a substack. Andrew Sullivan, who's like
kind of a Republican, a conservative. I debated him at

(45:33):
Clemson University a few years ago, which was an interesting debate.

Speaker 2 (45:39):
He's religious, but he's a he's on certain issues.

Speaker 1 (45:44):
He's one of the most thoughtful Republicans out day conservatives
out there, and I learned a lot from him. I
think the first time I really did a show on
intersectionality on the craziness of a culture, was off of
articles that he had written, because he had written some
of the best articles about it, so he had called

(46:07):
this out way before anybody else in the mid in
the mid twenty teens. He's not a Trump supporter, and
at least he's often accused of Trump de arrangement syndrome,
which we'll get to in a minute. Anyway, he wrote
a piece for his substack on decency and about Trump
and decency, and I thought, I thought it was really

(46:30):
good and addresses a big part of my revulsion at
Donald Trump and at the idea that Donald Trump is
president of the United States.

Speaker 2 (46:41):
So I wanted to read you parts of this essay
that I.

Speaker 1 (46:45):
Think are reflective of reality and of reflective of my
views regarding Donald Trump.

Speaker 2 (46:51):
So I'm going to do that.

Speaker 1 (46:52):
I want to remind you in the meantime that the
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let's just meet the.

Speaker 2 (47:45):
Goal, all right. So let me read you some of this.
He's talking here about democracy.

Speaker 1 (47:51):
Remember when he talks about democracy, just fill in contusu
of public or fill in this is no government we
have today, however you want to call it. He writes,
Democracy requires decency because it requires mutual respect to defend
others even as we disagree with them, to accept decisions
others have made in elections. We have lost to distinguish

(48:13):
between robust rhetoric and dehumanizing cruelty, to accept objective truth
when it proves us wrong, to maintain a baseline of civility,
to accept that we are all in this together. Politics
is inextripidly inextrac probo from culture, and a decent culture

(48:35):
will sustain democracy, while an indecent one will ultimately unravel it.
So decency and we'll see what you kind of you know,
and we'll see how decency is connected, I think, and
how Trump is connected to the rise, and we'll call

(48:56):
it the new Right.

Speaker 2 (48:57):
The kind of kind of the indecency of culture in
which we live.

Speaker 1 (49:02):
This is why I reject, he writes, the shallow accusation
that I have Trump derangement syndrome. It's too glib, too dismissive. Yes,
some have gone overboard in opposing this president. From Russia
gay to the brag indictment, overreach has been real. I

(49:22):
agree with that, I've acknowledged it. But the core impulse
to reject trump outright, to see him as uniquely hideous
in American political history, as a national collective disgrace, remains
a vitally important one. I agree because Donald Trump is

(49:44):
the most indecent man, by far to ever hold the presidency.
He has openly marked the disabled and the sick. He
has reveled in stories of torture and murder. He has
spent decades grabbing women by the you guys know fill

(50:05):
in the blank, and bragged about it.

Speaker 2 (50:08):
He has the righted prisoners of war for being captured.

Speaker 1 (50:12):
He pollayed his own divorce into tabloid coverage and spoke
publicly of wanting to date his own daughter. He began
his political rise by pushing a birth of conspiracy he
knew was a racist lie. We become inured to his
references to shithole countries and the fifty first Stage and

(50:34):
Gavin Noose come to a misogyny that made Jeffrey Epstein
a close friend, and to his gratuitous depiction of his
predecessor as a mere auto pen in the White House itself.
All of this true, Oliver, I agree with. The indecency

(50:56):
is in substance as well as style. It is one
one thing to be a realist in foreign policy, to
accept the marally morally ambiguous in an immoral world. It
is simply indecent to treat a country Ukraine invaded by
another Russian as the actual aggressor and force her to

(51:17):
accept the settlement on the invader's terms. It is one
thing to find and arrest illegal immigrants. It is indecent
to mock and ridicule them and send them with no
due process to foreign gulag where torture is routine. It
is one thing to enforce immigration laws. It is another
to use massd anonymous men to do it. It is

(51:40):
one thing to cut foreign aid simp it is simply
indecent to do so abruptly and irrationally, so that tens
of thousands of children will needlessly die.

Speaker 2 (51:52):
I agree with all of that.

Speaker 1 (51:54):
We have slowly adjusted to this entire new culture from
the top, perhaps in the hope that it will somehow
be stated sated soon.

Speaker 2 (52:04):
But then new indecencies happened.

Speaker 1 (52:07):
You think you've reached an all time low, and then
a trap door opens and we're down in the sub basement.
Just this week, Trump told a reporter asking a perfectly
legitimate question, Quiet, quiet, piggy, this is the week before
pointing a finger inches for our face. In the novel office,
he defended the Saudi princess orchestration of a brutal murder

(52:30):
and dismemdmment of a Washington Post journalist. Thus quote, a
lot of people didn't like that gentleman that you're talking about.

Speaker 2 (52:38):
Whether you like him or.

Speaker 1 (52:39):
Didn't like him, things happen. So they dismembered him and
killed him. So what that's me? And as he said
of lawmakers who argued that his quote war in the
Caribbean was illegal, in the military should not obey illegal commands,
remember this Trump quote, hang them. George Washington would and

(53:00):
seditious behavior punishable by death. Indecency is infectious, he writes,
when broadcast proudly at the very top in.

Speaker 2 (53:15):
Full view of everyone. And this is the key. This
is the sense in which I keep saying.

Speaker 1 (53:21):
Trump is creating the culture that makes Nick Foorentez, that
makes Tucker Caulson, that makes all these racist anti Semites,
you know, proto fascists possible. Trump makes it all possible.
He encourages it through this kind of attitude. You want
to see the full context of anti Semitism's hideous return,

(53:45):
try focusing on a president who is relentlessly legitimized demonization
and dehumanization of others for a decade. Nick fourentis casual
mention of his fandom of Stalin it for and Tucker
Causon's descent into Coffland territory.

Speaker 2 (54:04):
I think he's being too gentle with both of.

Speaker 1 (54:05):
Them, a downstream of the soulless disinhibition pioneered by the
President himself. In a culture where anything can be said
and decency is over you, hatred will rise to the surface,
like pas to Poultice. Recall that infansmous footage of ordinary

(54:29):
Germans humiliating Jews on the street. Indecency begets greater indecency.
The Holocaust was just a matter of time. I know,
this is him.

Speaker 2 (54:40):
Writing, and I would say I know what's coming next.

Speaker 1 (54:44):
Of course, this column will receive a chorus of accusations
of tds and how it's deranged to oppose a president
just because of his mean tweets, or to compare him
with Hitler, like I just did, he says I didn't.
Of course, I just noted that it decency has a
political history.

Speaker 2 (55:02):
A blizzard of what abouts will ensure.

Speaker 1 (55:05):
And sure I'll be ridiculed for still not quote getting it,
but I do get it. I understand why Trump was
elected and re elected. I accept the failings of the alternative.
I support some of his policy changes. But what I
want to say to those that writing me is you

(55:27):
still know I'm right. You still know I'm right. You
know who this man is. The record is clear, the
core indecency so manifest and disgusting you cannot look away.
This is not about mean tweets. It is about a
brutal assault on common decency in a democracy, and common

(55:51):
decency as conservatives once knew and all well grassed.

Speaker 2 (55:56):
So Kenley starts off with some Owell stuff.

Speaker 1 (55:58):
Matters, it really does. Trump remains an insidious threat to
our way of life and to free people across the globe.
Indecency is always an indispense of a prologue to tyranny.

(56:20):
It makes authoritarianis impossible. But what makes authoritarianism inevitable is
public acquiescence to it. I don't think most Americans, including
most Trump supporters, seriously want to embrace his vileness. They
want to bracket it, say it's no big deal, and

(56:41):
point to what Trump does and not what he says.
But what they need to understand is the tolerating indecency
at such a high level, treating it as funny or foible,
or as a way to own the Libs carries a
logic that history warns direct against.

Speaker 2 (57:01):
In all Wells, this is Ow's Woods quote.

Speaker 1 (57:05):
Fascism has a great appeal for certain simple and decent
people who generally genuinely want to see justice done to
the working class, and the most urgent need of the
next few years is to capture those normal, decent ones
before fascism plays its trump card.

Speaker 2 (57:26):
This was ol rating.

Speaker 1 (57:33):
Don't be like Boxer from Animal Farm, who kept his
own decency but ignored the indecency of his leader. Napoleon
is always right and was finally transported not to a
deserved retirement, but to the Knacker's yard by the pigs
he foolishly trusted. Don't be like them, and don't be

(57:54):
like Winston Smith in nineteen eighty four, forced in the
end to embrace power over ordinary love.

Speaker 2 (58:03):
Do it to Julia, Do it to Julia.

Speaker 1 (58:06):
Stay decent. See Trump for what he is. I think
it's pretty powerful. I think it's true. I basically agreed
with pretty much everything. You know. Would have phrased it
a little differently, but basically that is true. This is
the evil that Trump represents. It's why I am so

(58:31):
offended by Trump.

Speaker 2 (58:32):
Why I find him.

Speaker 1 (58:33):
So despicable, because he is despicable, because he's just a
low human being. I think Sullivan nails it. Sullivan nails it.
It's exactly who Trump is. Trump's not a fascist. And
Sullivan didn't say Trump was a fascist. He said Trump
is laying the groundwork for fascism, and Trump is laying

(58:56):
the groundworld for fascism. And again, I like numbers. Trump
never said he thinks he thinks Trump is a fascist.

Speaker 2 (59:06):
He never said that.

Speaker 1 (59:07):
It's interesting how how how you listen to stuff and
how you let your biases.

Speaker 2 (59:16):
Shape what you actually hear.

Speaker 1 (59:23):
All right, Um, he's quoting all way like that because
he's saying this is where we're going, this is where
we're heading. We're heading towards fascism. Trump is paving the
road to fascism.

Speaker 2 (59:40):
And I agree completely.

Speaker 1 (59:41):
Trump is he's paving the road to the Nick Flantises
and the Tucker Calsons and the real fascists down the road.

Speaker 2 (59:48):
They're coming.

Speaker 1 (59:50):
Trump is too uncarrying, too anti ideological, too thugg too
just just too dumb to be a fascist. Trump is
not the fascist, but he's paving rower for it, which
is exactly what all is is warning the British that

(01:00:11):
this is what's coming, that the road is being paved
to pay attention. Yeah, I mean if people don't actually listen,
they they bias, they're listening with what they what they

(01:00:36):
you know, with their prejudice.

Speaker 2 (01:00:39):
All right, Uh, let's shift topics speak shift.

Speaker 1 (01:00:45):
I want to talk about settle of violence on the
West Bank. I've talked a little bit about it, but
it really is a disgusting phenomena, a phenomena that is only.

Speaker 2 (01:00:55):
Growing, there's becoming worse.

Speaker 1 (01:00:58):
I keep thinking, and I certainly thought this earlier in
the year and last year when when these stories came
out and settle of violence in the West Bank, there's
a This is violence against Palestinians and sometimes against Israeli
UH defense forces personnel and or against Jews that happened
to be there. This is violence against them committed by

(01:01:23):
Missianic type Jews who who are mostly young, young young
Israelis who are uh you know who you know, basically
want to create chaos in the West Bank and and

(01:01:44):
basically forced the hand of the Israeli government ultimately to
come in and take over and UH and and annex
the West Bank, can put it all under Israeli authority.
Right now, the West Bank is a is a hodgepodge
of areas where they're Palestinian authority rules, where Israel rules,
and even where Israel's rules. Is that the army is,
that the police is the civilian authority. What exactly is

(01:02:05):
going on? It's very confusing, it's very messed up. And
these these young people are taking advantage of all that,
and they are getting more and more emboldan because I
keep thinking, Okay, these Israeli governments of Israel's a is
a land of mostly a land of laws, and they
will clamp down on this, and they will. They will
shut them down, and they will put them in prison.

(01:02:27):
They will do the stuff that's necessary. And what's become
evidence over this year, over twenty twenty five is that
they are not and they will not. That the Israeli
government led by Nitagnel has been captured by the worst
elements of these Missianic Jews. I knew this was true
about other issues, but it applies here as well. And

(01:02:48):
they're basically letting them again with a wink and a nod,
letting them get away with violence. And we'll talking about
horrific violence, beating people up for doing nothing sometimes people
who are in the eighties and you know, or throwing
rocks and beating people up for harvesting the olives in

(01:03:09):
their olive oaches. And these are not olive vaches that
are the property Whites are disputed. Other than these Missianic
Jews believe everything belongs to them because they Jews, which
is barbaric, mystical nonsense. And you know, they beat up
in Israeli photographer they sent to the hospital and was

(01:03:31):
killed him. They've burnt Palestinian homes with people inside. Now
luckily there haven't been many casualties. But people have been injured,
they've gone to hospitals. I mean real harm has been done,
and people's homes have been burned down, and they could
have been significant deaths.

Speaker 2 (01:03:52):
It wasn't like they.

Speaker 1 (01:03:53):
Warned them in advance or something, not that they were justified,
but they just they have no respect, no respect.

Speaker 2 (01:03:59):
For the life of these people. It is truly horrific.

Speaker 1 (01:04:03):
They are sowing hatred among Palestinians for Israel, and they're
going to.

Speaker 2 (01:04:10):
Make the West Bank ungovernable.

Speaker 1 (01:04:13):
And of course, if they achieve what they actually want,
which is chaos in the West Bank, what that'll lead
to is a lot of violence and a lot of
violence that are rebound on Israel.

Speaker 2 (01:04:24):
A lot of Israeli is getting killed. This could be
Israel doesn't need another funt in its war.

Speaker 1 (01:04:31):
It's got troops locked down in Gaza, it's got troops
locked down on its northern front with Lebanon.

Speaker 2 (01:04:37):
And what these idiots are going to create as.

Speaker 1 (01:04:40):
A situation where a lot of those troops are going
to come in order to in order to deal with
an uprising in the West Bank.

Speaker 2 (01:04:48):
But much more important than.

Speaker 1 (01:04:49):
That, Israel is it a real risk of losing its
identity of a civilized country, which is the basis on
which I and I think many people support.

Speaker 2 (01:05:00):
I don't support it because it's a Jewish state. I
don't support it because Jews live there.

Speaker 1 (01:05:06):
I support it because it is generally a free country
the respect rights. But if it really does stop respecting rights,
if the power is handed over to a bunch of
crazy messianic, mystical religious nutcases, then Israel will lose my support.

(01:05:28):
And what's going on right now and now, I mean
this government has already lost my support, lost it a
long time ago.

Speaker 2 (01:05:33):
It really never had my support this government.

Speaker 1 (01:05:37):
You know, elections should be announced now. There should be
elections now. Got a little bit of a pause from
the fighting in Gazlan and Lebanon. A lot of decisions
have to be made about the future, and that Chanel
needs to be out.

Speaker 2 (01:05:49):
He needs to be ousted.

Speaker 1 (01:05:51):
You know, a deal should be cut where he gets
a pardon on all the corruption charges against him, and
in exchange he promises not to for reelection. He leaves politics.
That should be the boggain. I'm happy not to see
Natonnille go to jail, but out of politics and let
a new generation of politicians come in and try to

(01:06:14):
lead this country. Elections need to be elections need to
be happening sooner rather than later, and the next elections
in Israel a key issue needs to be right.

Speaker 2 (01:06:26):
I mean, because on most.

Speaker 1 (01:06:28):
Of the big questions facing Israel from a security perspective,
there's broad agreement. You know, as I've said many times,
it's very there's almost no left in Israel. Everybody's center left,
center right. Israel is a basic a center right country,
and all the political parties, major politic parties in Israel

(01:06:49):
as center right. The biggest disagreement they have is about personality.
It's about Natenniel taking Antennie out. And you've got a
large coalition of center right parties that wins an overwhelming majority.

Speaker 2 (01:07:03):
And what I would like to see. What I would
like to see.

Speaker 1 (01:07:11):
Is a commitment by these center right parties, who are
mostly secular, to have nothing to do with the Missianic
Jewish political parties, to have nothing to do.

Speaker 2 (01:07:29):
With them, and to.

Speaker 1 (01:07:34):
You know, instead and to impose the rule of law,
just the rule of law, nothing special, the rule of
law on the West Bank, on the Jews on the
West Bank, to send them to jail, to send them
to prison for long sentences, to figure out who the
leaders of this movement are they might be sitting in

(01:07:54):
the government of Israel right now, and to prosecute them
to clearly defined because one of the problems right now
there is that there's no clear definition or who's responsible
for low and order, is that the military is that
the police, make it clear who's responsible and give them
all the power they need and to enforce it. Many
of these young people live in the hills of the

(01:08:19):
West Bank and occupy areas illegally, that is land that
does not belong to them. They need to be those
illegal settlements need to be dismantled, and those kids need
to be punished for baking the law, just like you
would in any civilized country.

Speaker 2 (01:08:39):
In other words, is All needs to commit to its
civilized nature.

Speaker 1 (01:08:51):
You know, at this point, you know who is fit
to a place nintaining on people ask you should ask
in a super chat.

Speaker 2 (01:08:56):
That's what super chat is for, right, I.

Speaker 1 (01:08:59):
Mean you have lots of questions, put it to put
two dollars together and ask it in the superchair. Now
I answer all questions in the super chair. So again,
Israel's status as a civilized country is at stake, and
it's support Us in the United States are watching and

(01:09:22):
there are enough of them that just to horrify about
what is going on in the West Bank. And it
needs to end now. Not all settlers in the West
Bank are like this. Many people go to the West
Bank because it's it's a it's it's a relatively cheap
place uh to to live. That there are lots of
there's economic opportunities there, there's cheap homes. Some go there

(01:09:47):
because you know, the Orthodox Jews, and they go there
for religious reasons. And then that people who go there
to make a political statement, and they you know, these
are the Missianic types, and they want to create mayhem,
they want to create chaos, they want to Look, they're
three and a half million Arabs Muslims living in the

(01:10:10):
West Bank, three and a half million, the half a
million Jews living in the West Bank. Israel does not
need a conflict, a hot conflict with three and a
half Muslim million Muslims in the West Bank.

Speaker 2 (01:10:26):
It would not be good. It would not be good.
It would undermine much of the successes Israel's had in
this recent war.

Speaker 1 (01:10:38):
So it needs to climb down in these people just
because the Jews gives them no special privileges, should give them.

Speaker 2 (01:10:43):
No special privileges.

Speaker 1 (01:10:46):
That's what it means to be a civilized country, not
a theocracy.

Speaker 2 (01:10:53):
All right, some good news.

Speaker 1 (01:10:55):
On Tuesday last week, Waima announced that it is going
to have driverless cars in five new cities Dallas, Houston,
San Antonio, Miami, in Orlando. The beginning testing immediately in Miami.
They'll begin testing in the other countries in no other
cities soon, and they'll have all of them in twenty

(01:11:18):
twenty six. They'll have full service in all of them
in twenty twenty six. Waimo is clearly accelerating its commercialization,
its expansion beyond Phoenix, San Francisco, La Austin, and Atlanta
where they operate today. And by the way, if you
live in one of those Waymo cities, then you know

(01:11:42):
use Weymo. It's so cool, it's so unbelievable.

Speaker 2 (01:11:45):
Be cool. Drive those drivers out of business.

Speaker 1 (01:11:49):
It's time to place drivers in America with driverless cars.

Speaker 2 (01:11:52):
Much safer, much more comfortable, much easier.

Speaker 1 (01:11:58):
Waimo is also now that they will go into six
other US cities in twenty twenty six. Denver, Detroit, Las Vegas, Nashville,
San Diego, and Washington, d C.

Speaker 2 (01:12:07):
And which I think is.

Speaker 1 (01:12:10):
Pretty amazing and will be really interesting to see London.

Speaker 2 (01:12:15):
London.

Speaker 1 (01:12:16):
The cabbys are going to allow them to go to
London without you know, wow, without a fight. That's going
to be amazing to see Waimo in London. Now, notice
that a lot of these cities, you know, a lot
of cities so far being in good climate, so it's
going to be interesting to see them in Denver and
Detroit and Washington, d C. Have way more deal with

(01:12:37):
snow and ice. Is going to be interesting. But again,
it looks really really really cool and you know, so
far from what I've seen from Weymo, Yeah, they can
take on pretty much all of these challenges. They're looking
to be in seventeen cities by the end of next year, right,

(01:13:01):
which is triple what they are today. In addition, in addition,
Weimo is going to begin for the first time commercial
services on freeways. One of the big disadvantages Weymo's had
visa Uber and others is the fact that they couldn't
go on highways, so it was impossible to get to
San Francisco airport. It's impossible to use them for many

(01:13:22):
of the airports. Now they get a drive on highways
and now we'll really see how they they how they do,
because I mean that will be that will be pretty amazing.
And of course you can't run away more any kind
of service in a place like Dallas at Houston if
you can't go on the highways, right, because I mean
those cities are dominated by highways.

Speaker 2 (01:13:45):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:13:47):
Interesting that a lot of these new cities being announced
are in Republican LED states. You know, even though the
Democratic led cities, the Republican LEDs states states Republican led
states have been much much more open to using this technology.

(01:14:10):
The exception, of course is California, where where this technologies
was initiated and trite first and is being expanded San Francisco,
Los Angeles, and San Diego. But again you're not seeing
many of many kind of blue states. Seattle with Seattle,
Seattle should be a dropping this. New York, Boston, Buffalo,

(01:14:34):
you know, Buffalo is being in talks and even Washington
d C.

Speaker 2 (01:14:38):
Will see if that actually launches. For example, in Washington
d C.

Speaker 1 (01:14:43):
WAMO is going to have to have a driver inside
like a safety driver for a while. It's not clear
when Washington d C Is going to allow them to
go full full on driver less commercial Massachusetts does doesn't
provide a clear path to deployee robot taxes in Boston,

(01:15:04):
and Boston officials have you know, have actually considered the
legislation and completely banned driverless vehicles in Washington state.

Speaker 2 (01:15:13):
Seattle.

Speaker 1 (01:15:14):
In other words, the law allows testing of autonomous vehicles
but doesn't offer clear path towards commercialization. Legislation to authorize
warble taxis in the state hasn't gotten traction uh, and
legislatures offering a bill to actually ban the technology from
the state completely. New York law requires a person to

(01:15:34):
have at least one hand on the wheel. Legislation to
change that hasn't made much progress through the states legislature.

Speaker 2 (01:15:42):
I mean, we could wake.

Speaker 1 (01:15:43):
Up in many in many states, we could wake up
this situation where some states have fully autonomous vehicles, they
have trucks, they have cars, and and you know, the
accidents and deaths and efficiency accidents, the decks of way down,
efficiency is way up, and other states have none. Now

(01:16:06):
this isn't all blue red as we said, uh, you know, uh,
California has been at the forefront of this, and indeed
they're gonna go on the highway. So we're gonna you know,
you're gonna see not just San Francisco, I have Way Moo,
but go from San Francisco throughout the Bay area all
the way down to San Jose, which means all down

(01:16:27):
the highways, which is huge.

Speaker 2 (01:16:29):
San Diego is going to start. Colorado, for example.

Speaker 1 (01:16:33):
Colorado's governor, Jared Poulis is a big supporter of autonas
vehicles and.

Speaker 2 (01:16:40):
He uh, he vetoed legislation, backed of course by the teamsters.

Speaker 1 (01:16:46):
They were to banned large driver liist trucks in Colorado
and way more will probably launched there in twenty twenty six.
And then you've got Purple states like Michigan, Nevada, and Pennsylvania.
They are favorable laws towards WAYMOS. So that is going
to happen. We'll see what happens in the rest of
the country. But yeah, Waymos is coming to a city,

(01:17:08):
New York, the city near you, and.

Speaker 2 (01:17:13):
Base it, jump on it, use it, support it.

Speaker 1 (01:17:20):
Yeah, it's a great technology. It's a great technology with
pretty much on the upside.

Speaker 2 (01:17:29):
All right. Last story is a story out of China.
And this has to do with Farmer.

Speaker 1 (01:17:38):
China is now becoming a massive new developer of new medicine.

Speaker 2 (01:17:45):
Now, China used to be.

Speaker 1 (01:17:48):
Huge on generics and then providing chemicals used in pharmaceuticals.

Speaker 2 (01:17:54):
And that was it.

Speaker 1 (01:17:56):
Over the last ten years, China has become the second
largest developer of new medicines. About a decade ago, only
five percent, you know, of clinical trials for new medicines
will run in China. Last year it was a third

(01:18:18):
of all clinical trials globally. We're run in China. So
it's the United States, China, and then the rest of
the world. There's a story in this and economist. Drug
discovery has been dominated in the past by the US,
by so called Big Farmer, which is the US and
and and a few European companies, right. But the reality

(01:18:43):
is Big Farmer is about to hit a big cliff
where all its patents for about three hundred billion dollars
in total revenue are going to expire. They are scouring
the world for new molecules, for new potential drugs, and
they're fighting them in China. The United States is investing

(01:19:04):
US companies, US pharmaceutical companies investing heavily in biotech companies
in China. And this is, of course, the timing is
about as bad as you could imagine. Trump is constantly
threatening to place tariffs on Chinese pharmaceuticals. We're in the
midst of a trade war with China, which is on
pause right now but could escalate at any time. You know.

Speaker 2 (01:19:29):
In May, Fisa, US's biggest drug drug.

Speaker 1 (01:19:33):
Maker, paid one point twenty five billion to three s
Bio Chinese biotech FOAM for the rights to manufacture and
sell an experimental cancer drug outside of China if the
drug is approved. Glaxo smith Klein, the British company, struck
a five hundred million dollar deal with another Chinese company
for lung disease treatment, and all together, you know, you know,

(01:19:57):
American and European companies investing heavily in where the new
science is actually happening.

Speaker 2 (01:20:08):
China, you know, has.

Speaker 1 (01:20:11):
Streamlined its regulatory process, has streamlined the process for drug trials.
And again, almost all the investment, or almost all of
the work in biotech in China has done by private
companies and is financed by private capital. And what you're

(01:20:33):
seeing is a huge increase in production. So if you
go back to twenty fifteen, China only approved new only
eleven treatments. Eleven new treatments, almost all of them Western imports.
By twenty twenty four, in one year they approved ninety
three of them developed domestically.

Speaker 2 (01:20:57):
So this is the beauty of.

Speaker 1 (01:21:00):
Expanding trade, expanding industry, expanding private industry to the extent
China it's private at least to some extent. Expanding research.
You now have in a sense one point four billion
additional brains working on problems like curing cancer, like solving

(01:21:24):
other health issues. Now we will see how efficient this
all is. Ultimately, that is how good the research is
coming out of China. Will see how good they trials
are though, the trials that they do, the human trials
for drugs that they do, all supervised by American big

(01:21:45):
pharma or by European big pharma, because they want to
know that if they're buying a product, they're buying a
product that makes some sense. Most Chinese firms are focusing
on cancer, which is great. Of course, they're also doing
weight loss drugs like Goovi and ozem Tech. Given that

(01:22:07):
they're so popular and so successful and it made so
much money, the Chinese are going to come out with
their own set of these the patents on these drugs.
ASS is going to expire soon and there'll be a
bunch of generics and the price will drop dramatically. So yeah,
I mean again, I think it's great when it comes

(01:22:30):
to economics and when it comes to these kinds of things,
I don't see China as a competitor. I see China
as part of a globalized system in which, you know,
we all benefit from what they produce and what they
create and what they innovate. Now, you know the fact

(01:22:51):
that they are so good in drug discovery and that
they have they're pretty good in artificial intelligence. You know,
the US needs to watch it that they that we
still compete.

Speaker 2 (01:23:05):
But it's easy to fix the United States.

Speaker 1 (01:23:11):
Reduce regulations, reduce comany intervention, do the opposite of what
the Trump and Biden administration have done, which is do
price caps on drugs, reduce the incentives of drug companies
to find new drugs, reduce the incentive to innovate in
biotech and get you know, and you know, eliminate is

(01:23:32):
too much, but at least, you know, shrink a regulatory
you know, the regulations and the the the chokeholds that
we place on American pharma. Instead, the Trump administration wants
to put a chokehold in Chinese farmer or at least
the chocolate visa of the America. It wants to penalize

(01:23:53):
importing drugs from China, and it wants to penalize American
pharmaceutical but from making a profit. That's exact opposite thing
of what they should be doing. All right, guys, that
is the news for this December first, twenty twenty five.

(01:24:15):
All Right, today is going to go down as one
of the lowest super Chat days ever.

Speaker 2 (01:24:21):
In history unless something changes quickly.

Speaker 1 (01:24:24):
But you know, we've got a few questions we'll get,
we'll get, we'll do them quickly, and we'll go on.
Let me just remind you a few things. One, I
am going to be participating at a conference in Florida
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It's called the RAMS Day week End Objectives Conference. There's

(01:24:45):
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Of course, in addition to that, Harry, Peter and I
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Speaker 1 (01:29:53):
Uh, Riphel says, Hey, you on, I'm giving a presentation
soon in front of a large corporate audience, and I'm
feeling a bit nervous.

Speaker 2 (01:30:00):
Do you have any advice?

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Should I memorize the speech slide by slide or approach
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material inside out. You've prepared the slides, you've worked on
the deals, you know this material.

Speaker 2 (01:30:25):
You really don't have anything to worry.

Speaker 1 (01:30:26):
And for sure, you know this material much better than
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Speaker 2 (01:30:37):
Uh, there's zero reason for you to I mean You're
gonna feel nervous. That's just reality.

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You're talking to a large group and until you gain
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if you want to memorize for each slide, if you
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Just go through the slide presentation and.

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Whether you do it out loud or in your head,
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on there, you know more than they do. You know
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Wilson thoughts on this You're on from Wall Set Journal.

Speaker 1 (01:32:03):
Earlier this year, Excellent Mobile met with Russia's biggest state
energy company, rose Neet about returning to.

Speaker 2 (01:32:12):
The gas project. I mean, I think it's disgusting.

Speaker 1 (01:32:15):
It's it really is, and I think they're egged on
by the Trump administration that wants to cut deals. But
remember that Rosnet and the Russian government has often kicked
out fund companies that have invested heavily in Russia and
then taken over their assets, in a sense, nationalized what
they've invested in Russia. Russia is the bad guy in

(01:32:37):
this war and should not be rewarded with.

Speaker 2 (01:32:40):
Western expertise in Western capital.

Speaker 1 (01:32:44):
And the Trump administration is despicable for encouraging the all
companies to do it, and all companies should stop being
so shortsighted and pragmatic. And remember what happened to all
companies in Russia in the past.

Speaker 2 (01:32:57):
It has not ended well for many of those companies.

Speaker 1 (01:33:00):
And what happens after Mobile excellent Mobile invests a huge
amount of money in Russia and then Russia invades Poland,
what do they do?

Speaker 2 (01:33:08):
Then it's it's just a disaster.

Speaker 1 (01:33:10):
The whole thing is a disaster, and it's a disaster
caused by Trump, caused by this administration.

Speaker 2 (01:33:17):
That such talks would even happen in the middle of
a wall, Yeah, yel. Rath asked, who is fits you
replacements in here?

Speaker 1 (01:33:26):
You know, I don't know anybody you are, Yeah, yell,
I'm sure anybody enough to the Bennett Gallant. Gallant shouldn't
because he was Defense Secret to Be during October seventh,
so she'ld be out of politics as well. Everybody in
the government during October seventh and leading up to October seventh,
particularly in the years before that, should be out. Bennett

(01:33:48):
was the Prime Minister for a very short period of time.

Speaker 2 (01:33:52):
But I'm sure they're good people. I don't know them.

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There's no nitinniols, no secret sauce, there's no special ability,
there's no genius that he has. Everybody's just used to
him being Prime minister because he's been prime minister of
the last almost twenty years, almost continuously so, but there's
nothing magical about his powers that other people don't have
got to I'm sure there's some young people who I

(01:34:22):
lose names I don't know who are who should give.

Speaker 2 (01:34:26):
Be given a shot at being prime minister.

Speaker 1 (01:34:30):
More importantly is to keep out the ultra orthodox and
and force them into the army and keep or or
turn the army into voluntary one or the other, and
then keep out the messianic.

Speaker 2 (01:34:46):
Nuts, keep out the messianic nuts.

Speaker 1 (01:34:53):
So I don't know enough of it is really politics,
but it strikes me as there's nothing special about Ninthonio
Fender Office has become a twenty five dollars monthly supporter
like on Patreon and join your on live on the
monthly amas absolutely and you can ask one to three
questions without character limits and back in a little bit

(01:35:16):
of back and forth as well. It's an amazing value
just twenty five bucks a month, so please go to
Patreon and do it and become a supporter. But five
ten dollars ten dollars you get a free well not free,
you get it well free. You get the podcast for free,
but with no ads, no ads, and you get it

(01:35:37):
on your podcasting apps. It doesn't acquire you to do
anything special. Jacob potentially relocating to just north of Salt
Lake City for work. Any objectives to people in Salt Lake?
I love the nature and weather. Ooh, it's going to
be cold, but it's pretty there. The mountains are amazing
and there's a lot to do. There's a lot of

(01:35:57):
nature in that sense to do, and solt cities enjoy
also a lot of moments there. They're hard working people
and they're nice enough, but a lot of moments.

Speaker 2 (01:36:08):
Yeah. Great. I don't know if any objectives there. I'm
sure there are some.

Speaker 1 (01:36:14):
Jacob also says, being too busy to watch lately, here
is for the past few weeks.

Speaker 2 (01:36:18):
Thank you, Jacob, appreciate.

Speaker 1 (01:36:19):
It all right, guys, I will see you tonight with
Harry and then again tomorrow with another news show. Have
a great rest of your week and I will see
you guys soon.

Speaker 2 (01:36:33):
Bye, everybody,

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