Bodybuilder Brad Sedillo Reflects

Bodybuilder Brad Sedillo shares what it is like to compete. He placed third at the Natural Atlas competition in his category. Reminiscing with his favorite elementary school educator, he once was interested in politics but now embraces bodybuilding & transforming his physique with ways for you to transform yours.

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Well, I am absolutely delighted tointroduce my guest here on today's

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show, and he's sitting next to me live.
I'm

Brad Sedillo (01:37):
yes,

Catherine (01:38):
as an educator, I have had the honor of shaping and
nurturing his critical thinkingskills throughout his childhood.
I fondly remember reading hiscaptivating stories in class.
Watching him lead the student councilas they campaigned to protect Philmont
Boy Scout Ranch from coal mining,taking care of wildlife and listening

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to him address the mayor about issuesthat matter to middle schoolers.
I cheered him on as heachieved his Eagle Scout rank.
Experiences that have all laida strong foundation for his
high school journey and beyond.
His leadership has allowed him tonavigate various paths to success.

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Making lifelong friends along the way.
In his own words, he discoveredhimself through his group of friends.
He has committed himself to fitnesstraining for his next competition.
And even authored a booktitled Friend Boats.
He occasionally co-hostsyour positive imprint.

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I could go on and on and on aboutmy remarkable former student,
but I'm gonna let him share hisstories and his positive imprints.
Truly, truly, I am so excited to welcomethe absolute incredible Brad Sedillo.

Brad Sedillo (02:54):
I'm excited to be here.
The tree of your seedsthat you've been planting.
I am the tree.
My friends call me a tree.
So here we are.

Catherine (03:02):
I

Brad Sedillo (03:03):
love that they describe running into me, like running into a tree.
So there you go.

Catherine (03:07):
Well.
You are incredible.
And we go, my goodness, time.
We do go back a long time.
It's

Brad Sedillo (03:14):
20 years now.
I'm over 20.
Yes.
Yeah, I'm teasing.
Yeah.

Catherine (03:20):
Oh, we have

Brad Sedillo (03:21):
Uhhuh a

Catherine (03:21):
long, long way back and so we're gonna start there.
Actually,

Brad Sedillo (03:25):
I'm ready.

Catherine (03:26):
We're gonna head over to elementary school.

Brad Sedillo (03:29):
Okay?
Yes.

Catherine (03:31):
Brad having you in, and I still have one of your posters, by the way.

Brad Sedillo (03:34):
Yes.
The president's, uh, town.

Catherine (03:36):
How do you remember that?
Well, yeah.
'cause

Brad Sedillo (03:37):
we went to dinner that one time in that Italian restaurant
and you showed it to me again.
Yes.

Catherine (03:41):
Oh my gosh.
I, that's right.
I did Uhhuh.
Well, I, I still have it and I take it.
You know, and I show 'causeit was, it was so much fun.
Right.
And you were so creative and you choseall your little favorite presidents.
Mm-hmm.
Do you remember whichpresidents you chose?

Brad Sedillo (03:56):
I can't, I hope that Lincoln was there.
Okay.
I'm glad that young Bradat least chose Lincoln.

Catherine (03:59):
Yeah, yeah.

Brad Sedillo (04:00):
Yeah.

Catherine (04:01):
So in, in third grade, you were very talkative in class.
Uhhuh not in.
Of the wrong ways.
Yeah.
But of course my classwas very non-traditional.

Brad Sedillo (04:13):
Right.

Catherine (04:13):
But you, you had a lot of leadership skills that
you were building back even thenbecause we had student council.

Brad Sedillo (04:19):
Right.

Catherine (04:21):
You were a social studies bus.
Yes.
Big time

Brad Sedillo (04:24):
uhhuh.
Yeah.
Well, you mentioned student counciland obviously you getting me into
student council set me on a paththrough student government that lasted
all the way through my college career.
Mm-hmm.
So I very specifically rememberdoing a lot of student council stuff.
Cleaning out bottles and, , cansthroughout the, , school and
all the different bins for therecycling program and doing that.
I remember one time we were makingsomething, I can't remember what it

(04:45):
was, but someone dropped a ruler ina hallway and you thought it sounded
like a gunshot, so you freaked out.
That's a funny one, I remember.
Yeah, I remember that.

Catherine (04:55):
Heck out.

Brad Sedillo (04:56):
Um, let's see, I guess I remember desperately attempting to
learn multiplication tables, which I

Catherine (05:02):
do remember that

Brad Sedillo (05:03):
even now.
I don't remember very well.
So, and of course John Denver,I still talk to my friends about

Catherine (05:08):
Oh, awesome.
John Denver.

Brad Sedillo (05:09):
Okay, well there you go.
Yeah.
Listen to some John Denver.
Yeah.

Catherine (05:13):
Oh, okay.
Yeah.
Well we did, and I rememberwhen you were on the phone,

Brad Sedillo (05:19):
Uhhuh.

Catherine (05:20):
To speak with Congresswoman Heather Wilson.

Brad Sedillo (05:23):
Okay.

Catherine (05:23):
About Philmont Boy Scout Ranch.

Brad Sedillo (05:26):
Hmm.
Yeah, that I remember her comingto campus once, and I was involved
in student council, so I was thereto greet her as she came to campus.
Yeah.

Catherine (05:34):
Yep.
Mm-hmm.
To the John Denver Day.
And we also had.
Martin Heinrich there, who's one ofour senators now, but at that time

Brad Sedillo (05:40):
he was city counselor.
That's right.
Yeah.
Yeah.

Catherine (05:42):
And he came, then we had state representatives, we had the mayor.

Brad Sedillo (05:45):
Mm-hmm.
Yep.

Catherine (05:46):
Those, those John Denver days were huge.
Yeah.

Brad Sedillo (05:48):
Isn't Mayor Marty always the mayor?

Catherine (05:51):
Well, he is not anymore,

Brad Sedillo (05:52):
but

Catherine (05:52):
back then.
But he came to, yeah,every single John Denver.
Yeah.
John Denver Day that, that we had.
And you wrote plays?
Mm-hmm.
You wrote the Boy Scout play with.
Some of your cohorts in studentcouncil and you acted it out
there in student council.
Do you remember that?

Brad Sedillo (06:13):
Ah, see now that's pretty, all the

Catherine (06:14):
Boy Scouts died.

Brad Sedillo (06:15):
Yeah,

Catherine (06:16):
because you drank the water.

Brad Sedillo (06:17):
Oh geez.
Well that sounds like my Boy Scoutexperience that it was good foreshadowing.
We are Boy Scouts and we like tocamp, hike, and enjoy the environment.
One of our boy scout camps is inNew Mexico, near the Valle Vidal.
Which is a really cool name.
It means the valley of life.
This place has lots of Boy Scouts andother folks like maybe your family who

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come to hike and enjoy the outdoors.
There are some big corporationswho want to take the life out of
the valley and drill for coal andoil in this area and that coal and.
Oil is going to make some people rich

Tony Sedillo (06:54):
while the rest of us lose our fun area for hiking,
camping, and watching wildlife.
The digging will also pollute theenvironment and that can hurt our health.
We need to work on Robbie Ryan's ideasand do more research and alternate
fuels, and there's a coal bed.

Student Council (07:15):
Methane develop an oil drilling nearby.
Oh doctor, you mean the Coal methanethat seeps into the water and begins
to kill off plants, lions, tigers,and bears and, oh, my Boy Scouts.
Yes, doctor.
And don't forget about the oil.
What could we have done to prevent theFuture Boys of America from, you know,

(07:37):
we should have gotten to the alternativefuels when it came to our environment?
These boys wouldn't be.
You know, if we'd only done our part toprotect and preserve the environment,

Catherine (07:48):
the
coal
mine didn't happen.

Brad Sedillo (07:49):
That's right.
Yeah.

Catherine (07:50):
You kids worked hard, but then you also had to
break the window with the raven.

Brad Sedillo (07:56):
Oh, geez.

Catherine (07:56):
Brad threw a raven, a little raven puppet at the window
to make it look like it was.
It was hitting the window,

Brad Sedillo (08:05):
and now I'm gonna have to go watch it too, to remember that.

Catherine (08:08):
It was great.
Big thump.

Brad Sedillo (08:10):
Yeah.

Catherine (08:12):
Education was fun.

Brad Sedillo (08:13):
Yeah.
When I was younger, I assumed thatpolitics and sort of government is
the sort of the way I wanted to go.
So I was in student council all theway through middle school, and then in
high school I was class president mostof the way through, and then I was the
student body president my senior year.
So I was really into studentgovernment and leadership and all
of that, even at the high school.
And then I went to the university,New Mexico, and I was involved in the

(08:36):
student government there, and I wasattorney general for the, the campus.
I was, I ran twice for thestudent senate at A-S-U-N-M, which
is the government body there.
And the first election,uh, you run in slates.
So there were 10 of us on a, on a.Slate and nine of them won their
election and I was the 10th who did not.
So that was one of my twoelection losses in my career.

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So I was Attorney General that year.
And then the next year I was ableto serve as a student senator.
And it was interesting.
So by the time I was a senior inhigh school, I come to realize
that the aspects of politics andgovernment that I really enjoyed.
We're actually the parts about history andso the more politicy type things, 'cause
I was at the same time working towardsa political science degree, I realized

(09:21):
was not really fun and I didn't reallyenjoy it, especially in relation to how
the politics of the world changed in thatsame timeframe, uh, I realized that it's
not really what brought me joy and so I.
Realized that the politics wasactually driving me towards history,
which is where my real passion is.
And so that's sort of then fromthere where I have sort of taken

(09:42):
it, but I still think it allows agood foundation of how to get along
with people and understand the past.
If you have a, a notion of how politicsand government work, even if you yourself,
don't feel like you would like to beinvolved in that sort of thing, in
how it actually works in today's life.

Catherine (09:56):
Oh, in your book you talked about green theory politics.

Brad Sedillo (10:00):
Yeah.
Right.
It was a really interesting class Itook in college and it was one of those
things that I sort of, it helped me moveaway from politics and towards history.
'cause I realized that all the politicalscience classes I was taking were
actually just the history mm-hmm.
Of politics.
Right.
, so a really great professor, EllenGrigsby at UNMI had this class called
Green Theory Politics and it was all.

(10:20):
Essentially environmentalismin the American political,
historical sort of evolution.
And so it was a really interesting classthat had very many different takes.
We've read people like John Muir and allthese people who throughout their nature
writing actually were talking aboutpolitics and current events at the time
that they were writing and all of thesethings, but it was more about the, the

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environmentalism of the founding fathers.
And it's something you don'treally think about in terms of.
What they were thinking of, but they werethinking of how do we steward the American
environment at the same time that we'retrying to create an American nation?
And so it's sort of an interestingaspect of politics and history that
you wouldn't really think about, butwhich has been an important part of
a lot of it all the way throughout.

Catherine (11:01):
I never ever would've thought you would do.
Okay.

Brad Sedillo (11:08):
Oh, uhhuh.
Yeah.
Bodybuilding.
Yes.
Yeah, bodybuilding.
Uhhuh.

Catherine (11:12):
Oh my gosh.
It's, and

Brad Sedillo (11:13):
this is a recent picture too.
That's, yeah.

Catherine (11:16):
So bodybuilding.
Wow.
So we have these pictures.
Yeah.
That all that we can put uplater, but on on YouTube.
So you're looking at thesepictures of you and bodybuilding.
Mm-hmm.
Which in school you were never athletic.

Brad Sedillo (11:34):
That's my problem.
Yeah, that's your problem.
What do you think that's your problem?
Look to, I was never athletic.
That's what led me to it.
It was the

Catherine (11:40):
thing I was gonna ask you that.
So, because you worked athletic, so.
Not being athletic ledyou to bodybuilding.

Brad Sedillo (11:46):
Exactly, yeah.
So all throughout high schoolI was very into running.
I was in cross country for four years.
I was never good at it.
I was in what was called the slug clubbecause it was very, the slow ones.
If by the time you're senior, the wayyou get a, a letter, like a high school
letter was that you had to run in threevarsity races, and I was never good
enough over four years to ever do that.

(12:09):
And so they also give you a letter if youmanage to stick it out for four years.
So I got a letter

Catherine (12:14):
because you stuck it out for four years As I graduate, as I

Brad Sedillo (12:16):
graduated, I.
Stuck it out for four years,being terrible at running.
So by the time I got to college,obviously I knew I wasn't
going to do any college sports.
So one of my very good friends that I talkabout in the book, John, uh, John Tina,
who currently lives in Oklahoma City, hewas a, , football player in high school.
And so he came to UNM.
And he was looking for somethingathletic to do and I was looking

(12:37):
for something athletic to replace.
You know, I was still active in highschool, even if I wasn't athletic.
'cause I cannot play asport that involves a ball.
I'm terrible at it.
Basketball, football, I'm awful.
And so he was like, well, whydon't you come to the gym with me?
And so that was in 2014that we started working out.
And so then from there it justbecame more of a, uh, it was a

(12:57):
fun thing to do with my friends.
And then it became a hobby andthen at some point it just became.
A very specific and regimentedpart of my everyday life.
And so eventually I was like, I needto do something that would actually
have an output to all of this.
So I got into more of the.
Specific bodybuilding stuff.
So I got a trainer who's aprofessional and all these things.
So, um, yeah, it's been aninteresting journey to get there.

(13:19):
I say that I can do bodybuilding andweightlifting because it involves very
little coordination or, or any of the, sothe barbells haven't fallen on you yet?
It's, I haven't killed myselfyet with the barbell in the head.
So, yeah, it's one of those things thatI really enjoy and I love and I'm, I find
that I finally found a sport that I'mgood at is essentially what happened so.
Well, you

Catherine (13:37):
are very good at it.
Yeah.
So it just took

Brad Sedillo (13:39):
me a long time.
Okay, so let's talk

Catherine (13:41):
about bodybuilding.

Brad Sedillo (13:42):
Yeah.

Catherine (13:43):
What does it take to.
Build this.
Is it just protein?

Brad Sedillo (13:49):
Is it, what's the

Catherine (13:50):
dedication?
What is the drive?

Brad Sedillo (13:52):
Well, so one of the things that I like about having a trainer
specifically is that they are professionalbodybuilders in England actually.
So I don't need someone in thegym with me showing me how to
do the lifts, the themselves.
But the two of them, they're very good.
He does more of the male trainingand she does the female training.
They're very good at setting goals.
They're called the coaching couple.
They're very good about settinggoals, about how to make

(14:13):
bodybuilding a lifestyle thing.
Therefore, it's not somethingthat takes away all of your time.
It allows you to be active and healthywhile also being a person, having a
job and family and all these things.
It involves a very large amount ofdedication over time, and that's,
you know, people come to the gymand they say, Hey, your arms look
good and you know, all these things.
How do you do that?
What do you take?

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I'm like, listen, that thing over there.
Pick it up several times andthen put it down and do that
over a period of many years.
And it's sustained effort over time.
And the main thing that you need isdedication is essentially what it is.
Dedication and discipline to make ita routine is the most important part.
So,

Catherine (14:53):
so routine.
We were always taught to do arms one day.
Yeah.
Legs another day.

Brad Sedillo (15:00):
Yeah, so that's called the split is which
days you do, which body parts.
So the split that I generally do is youdo a pull day, which is more arms and
back, or a push day, which is differentpart of your arms and your chest and
then legs and then you repeat and cycle.
So I do that with different workoutsthat, again, my trainers provide
for me every six or eight months.
I sort of change the routine that I do,but that's, that's essentially what it is.

(15:22):
And then of course the dietis, is a big part of it.
Those pictures would be if I am just ina maintaining mode, sort of my every day.
If you're going for a show,which I've done a couple of
bodybuilding shows those Yeah.
That requires much more on the diet andcardio, because what you're doing is
you're, you're getting your body intoa period where you are expending more

(15:43):
calories every day than you're taking in.
And the way you do that is eatingdisciplined, uh, levels of food in
terms of both quantity and what it isthat you're eating, and also cardio.
So by the time you get to a showlike that, you're doing cardio.
That's almost two hours a day.
On top of your workout, on topof not eating very much food, so
it's something you can't maintain.
And so that's what they say.

(16:04):
, my trainers are very good about, this issomething you, you set your mind to do.
This goal, a show on thisday, it's like a marathon.
That's not how you live your whole life.
That's just to trainto lead up to that day.
But you still maintain yourability to run and have aerobic.
Fitness on all of thatthroughout the rest of the year.
And so that's what I do most of the time.
So

Catherine (16:22):
when you're getting ready to do a show, what was this show called?

, Brad Sedillo (16:26):
so this one, I, I'd have to go back and look at it again, but I think
it was the, uh, the Muscle Mania Show,, is the name of the You're right, yeah.
On the back, WrestleMania.
Um, and that one was, , here, , thatwas my, my first show that I did.
And it was in, uh, Houston actually.
And so.
You do the whole thing where you, youhave to, first of all, you get into
that shape and then a week ahead oftime you start doing all of these

(16:47):
very specific, like my trainers wouldtell you every hour what you're eating
for the whole day, and you need tomake sure you're doing those things.
And then you start draining outyour body of liquids because you
need to sort of look crispy is howthey say it when you're on stage.
And that's sort of how some ofthe muscles can sort of pop.

Catherine (17:02):
Really.
Yeah.
So

Brad Sedillo (17:03):
you have to be very dehydrated when you go up on stage.
So it's like for the full 24hours before you're on stage,
you don't drink any water.

Catherine (17:11):
Oh, I never knew that.

Brad Sedillo (17:12):
Yeah, it's, it's, it's crazy.
So, I mean, I, I'm okay withgetting into this sort of shape,
but doing the show itself involvesthis extra 5% that is insane.
And then you have to get a spraytan, which you can see there I am.
Very, very white.
And that is a spray tan.
Yeah.
So you have to get a spray tan,which involves a first coat in
the morning and it's freezing.

(17:32):
And then you go a whole day in that andyou smell awful and you can't shower.
And then you get a second coat themorning of, and then you go to the show
and you put something on your body, likeliterally Pam spray to make you all shiny.
And so it's, it's a whole thing.
So this is sort of the 5% after you'rein good shape to do this thing for a day.
That's just sort of fun.
Yeah, I, I wanted it, I wanted itto say, Hey, I did this with this

(17:56):
outcome and here are the pictures.
I don't actually live that way.
Yeah.

Catherine (18:00):
What were some of the meals that you were eating?
Yeah,

Brad Sedillo (18:02):
so that week is called peak week.
It's the, the peak of yourtraining and you eat rice
cakes with some almond butter.
There's your whole meal for

Catherine (18:10):
that hour.

Brad Sedillo (18:11):
For that hour.
And then the next hour, maybeyou'll have a strip of, um, chicken
that you get from, uh, Costco.
If you get a big enough bag, youmicrowave one or two of those.
An hour and you eat that withanother rice cake and maybe take
just a sip of water and no more.
And then my trainer said that ifyou're going to be dehydrated,
you also want to add salt intoyour body To sort of add to that.

(18:33):
Uh, hydration and he says that thepink Himalayan salt is the best type.
So you put the almond butter on aice cake and then you sprinkle some
pink Himalayan salt on the top.
Oh, yu, and you're set.
Yeah.
It's very fulfilling.

Catherine (18:49):
Oh my goodness.

Brad Sedillo (18:49):
That for a whole, whole week, essentially whole

Catherine (18:51):
that diet.

Brad Sedillo (18:51):
Yeah.
Yeah.

Catherine (18:52):
Leading

Brad Sedillo (18:53):
up to that point.
And then as soon as you're done,we went to a very excellent
Italian restaurant and I ate.
A ton of carbs and tiramisu.
I had scotch, the whole thing.
Yeah, because there's nodrinking involved here either.
That's a hard part too, man.
Yeah.
So,

Catherine (19:07):
wow.
So the dedication is incredible.
When I think about spraying Pamela overyour body, you're putting something.
Chemical.
Mm-hmm.
On your body?
Oh yeah.
Yeah.

Brad Sedillo (19:17):
Well, I mean it's, it's literally for maybe a 15 minute period,
you're on stage for the whole, thewhole thing lasts less than 15 minutes.
Oh, okay.
Yeah.
So it's, it's a very quick, you get in,get, get out and you shower 'cause you
don't, it's gross and you haven't showeredin two days 'cause you have to spray tan
and so yeah, you take all of that off.
That's, I wouldn't get a spraytant any other time 'cause
I think it's kind of weird.

(19:38):
Um, and I obviously wouldn't do asuntan thing 'cause that's very bad
for your skin and such, so, okay.
Yeah.
I try to get that offas quickly as possible.
Yeah,

Catherine (19:47):
and that's interesting.
So the muscles uhhuh, becauselooking at you right now Yeah.
It doesn't look like the picture, right?

Brad Sedillo (19:56):
Yeah.

Catherine (19:56):
Because you don't have all this, right?
You don't do the diet,

Brad Sedillo (19:58):
the lighting, the, the whole thing.
So all of the things that you seeon ins, Instagram and social media,
that's the whole thing, is allthose pictures that people post
are when they're at their best.
Physique, first of all, and then alsoin the best circumstances in terms of
the humidity in the room or the lightingand the camera that they're using.
And if they're a professionalperson, it's all stage managed

(20:21):
to make those specific moments.
Make you look much moreinhuman than you are

Catherine (20:27):
if

Brad Sedillo (20:28):
you were to see them walking around as a person on a normal day.
So, okay.
Yeah.

Catherine (20:31):
How interesting.
So you have Natural AtlasUhhuh, and you have a medal.

Brad Sedillo (20:37):
Yes.
Yeah.
So that was one of the, uh, the thingsthat I, so I didn't obviously win
the show and I wasn't going into itthinking, oh, I'm gonna win this.
I went into it thinking I'm gonna do well.
So I think I got third in my.
Category at that time, which is, was anovice 'cause I had never done it before.
So, yeah.
Well congratulations on that.
Yeah,

Catherine (20:53):
that's great.
I think

Brad Sedillo (20:54):
I'll take it.
Yeah.
So I got the medal and I haveit framed in a nice thing and
it is like, Hey, I'm done.
There we, that felt good.
So yeah, I, I enjoyed it.

Catherine (21:02):
Yeah.
And then you said cardio.

Brad Sedillo (21:03):
Mm-hmm.

Catherine (21:04):
So what did you do for cardio to prepare for this?

Brad Sedillo (21:06):
Yeah, so my favorite is actually a stair stepper.
Uh, for whatever reason I just, the sweatthat, that thing drums up is insane.
So I don't like running very much.
Um.
In, in that level of time or intensity.
'cause I just feel like I've done that.
It's, I, I've done that andI don't need to do anymore.
So I found a way where I can readand do cardio at the same time.

(21:27):
So I'm on a stationary bike or thestair stepper with a book, and the
book makes it go by so much faster.
If you have 45 minutes or an hour todo cardio, if you're able to read at
the same time, that's the way to do it.
It is 90% history and the other10% are Agatha Christie books.
Yeah,

Catherine (21:43):
after bodybuilding.
So do you plan on doinganother competition or you're,
I know that was a dream.
You had some dreamsthat you wanted to Yes,

Brad Sedillo (21:52):
pre my pre 30 goals or my pre, yeah, yeah.
Pre 30 goals.
I could be convinced to doanother one at some point.
I really like getting into that shape.
I don't necessarily really like all ofthe, that 5% getting on stage stuff.
Um, and I'm not really interested inmaking it a professional thing where
some people go and they do it and tryand make money and all of these things.
I don't really have an interestin that, so I could see it

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happening again, but yeah.

Catherine (22:16):
Well, good luck if you decided to do that.
Thank you.

Brad Sedillo (22:19):
Yes.

Catherine (22:20):
And what a dedication

Brad Sedillo (22:21):
it's really lucky that I am not a very food motivated person.
'cause otherwise I'm notsure I could do it, so, yeah.

Catherine (22:27):
Oh, that's funny.
Yeah.

Brad Sedillo (22:29):
Yeah.

Catherine (22:30):
So, okay, well now you've done some traveling.

Brad Sedillo (22:33):
Yes.
So there is, , a toast that we usedto do, and I'm sure many of you
have heard this before at all ofthe parties that we used to have.
, and it goes, there are goodships and there are wood ships.
And there are ships that sailthe sea, but the best ships are
friendships and may they ever be

Catherine (22:47):
Who is ready for bodybuilding?
I am.
I am.
No.
Oh my gosh.
What an adventure.
Brad went on.
We'll join Brad Sad next time where hetalks about good ships and wood ships.
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