December 3, 2025 • 40 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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On Sunday night, as the Steelers were being beaten down
by the Buffalo Bills, Trib Live hockey reporter Seth Roba
sent out the following tweet. Mike Tomlin will say we
can't eat soup with forks, we need spoons. Then the
Steelers will sign a twenty eighteen pro bowler to the
practice squad lo and behold. On Tuesday, Mike Tomlin compared
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his level of confidence in the Steelers to media members
writing columns, and the Steelers signed twenty eighteen pro bowler
Adam Thielen. So in the vein of trib Live employees
speaking the absurd into reality, I am predicting that the
next time the power ball hits a billion dollars, I
will win it. Twenty eleven Era, Brooklyn Decker is going
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to slide into myn DMS and Carmelo Anthony's kid is
gonna take Syracuse to a national title like his dad did.
Check back with me in two days. I'll let you
know how things are going, is Brooklyn Decker on Twitter.
I'm Tim Benz. This is the Mark Madden Show. Mark
is off today. Let's stick with the theme of speaking
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things into existence, shall we. It's only taken half a
decade or so for the national media and former Steelers
players to catch on to what some media people like
you know myself and Mark Madden have been saying for
years that is time for the Steelers to fire Mike Tomlin.
And maybe enough people are talking about it now that
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artrunning the Second will eventually listen.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
Oh my kidding, he's not gonna listen.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
But right now, though, the latest voice in the din
calling for a change at the head coaching position for
the Pittsburgh Steelers is a pretty well known Pittsburgh Steeler.
It's Ben Roethlisberger on his Football In podcast. I bring
in Tommy Radio right now to help me surf through
these sound bites. Tom Let's play the first one from
Ben's most recent Football In podcast, where not only does
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he call for a change the head coaching position, he
has a very intriguing future destination for Mike Tomlin.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Maybe it's a clean house time. Maybe it is.
Speaker 4 (02:25):
Maybe it's time, and I like Coach Tomlin. I have
a lot of respect Coach Tomlin. But maybe it's best
for him too. Maybe maybe a fresh start for him
is what's best. Whether that's in the pros, whether maybe
Gobe Penn State's head coach.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
You know what he would do in Penn State.
Speaker 4 (02:38):
He'd probably go win national championships legitimause.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
He's a great recruiter. That's what I was having to comment.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
We probably had this probably or I was having this
conversation the other day.
Speaker 4 (02:47):
I'm like, coach t in college would be one of
the greatest college football coaches.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
Wood he or would he just lose to Minnesota after
he beat Michigan, because it wouldn't be like Franklin.
Speaker 5 (02:58):
Tom.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
It would be different than frank He would lose to Minnesota,
then beat Michigan, maybe Ohio State, and then get upset
in the first round of the playoff.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
That's what he would do.
Speaker 6 (03:10):
What would be his version of backing into the playoffs
in college football? That would be like going nine and three, right,
Like he'd go nine and three every year, just be
like right on the edge.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
But he'll be nine wins, yeah everything, Yeah.
Speaker 6 (03:19):
It has to be nine wins exactly and just have
everything kind of fall around him appropriately in the Big
ten in the college football landscape to get into it.
Why do we know that Tom would be a great
recruiter because of all his great experience going out on
the high school football trail and recruiting in the transfer portal.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
Well, he's been a great recruiter lately. I mean, look
at how great Darius Slay and Won Thornhill worked.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
Out perfect signings.
Speaker 6 (03:39):
DK Metcalf's looks like he's going to bear a ton
of fruit for the next three or four years.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
When's is the Penn State pit rivalry renew when's the
next time sat Stadium?
Speaker 1 (03:48):
You mean the Pinstripe Bowl coming up in a little Oh, yes,
we'll get to that certainly.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
Yeah, although that's a great idea, That would be a
great idea if he were to become Penn State's coach.
And then the first act is Penn State's coach, which
is to lose to Nardoozi in New York City in
the Pinstripe Bowl.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
But I see your angle here.
Speaker 6 (04:04):
You're just trying to get Tomlin and Nardoozy on opposite
sidelines the Nardoozy Tomlin matchup, Yes, I am, because it
wouldn't happen in time for the Pinstripe Bowl coming up here.
The Steelers would still be playing this season. But I
see your angle.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
In this.
Speaker 6 (04:16):
Imagine a season Tim where Franklin, Belichick, and Tomlin all
come to Akroscher Stadiums to play against Pat Nardoozy's.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
You almost said it.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
You almost didn't say play, You almost said something else.
I was thinking the same thing, so my head finished
the sentence. But I'm right there with you, Tom. If
you want to see me have a coronary, if you
want to see me have a conniption, if you want
to see me committed to Western psych Mike Tomlin becomes
head coach of Penn State after he used me as
a prop in his monologue about how there isn't a
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booster with a check big enough six years ago when
this first came up, You remember that when Carson Palmer
was talking about him going to USC.
Speaker 6 (04:54):
Do I remember it? LSU came up too.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
Brought him up for LSU and then blame me for
talking about it, because that's what Ryan does.
Speaker 6 (05:02):
But when I was supposed to tell the coach that
I was saying that, Tim, he was supposed to ignore
it on his own.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
You can't ask him at a press conference.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
So when he blew his stack when I even broached
the topic, if this were to wind up being true,
I would have the meltdown of all meltdowns.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
You would have to commit me.
Speaker 6 (05:19):
You have to ask on Tuesday, right about Penn State
if they win, have to Tim.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
If they win, it's an easy one for you.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
If they win against Baltimore, it would almost be funny
if I did it right.
Speaker 6 (05:32):
Especially coming from you, especially because you know Tomlin remembers
you with lsu usc and we all know that a
week from now, Penn State's still not gonna have a coach.
So you don't think you don't think they're gonna finally
hire somebody.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
Oh, they can't ruin my fun and hire somebody, can they? No,
they got to let this marinate a little bit. Ben
tomin th Ben just put this out into the ether.
What this get published last night? So it's still in
that twenty four hour news cycle. Let's get this some
nice legs here, Tomin to Penn State. Penn State's gonna
love that. Was that just an ext temporaneous thought from Ben?
Or did someone plant that in him.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
Like a Penn State booster? Yeah? Like, Hey, here's a little.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
I'm probably sounding a little bit too much like there's
subtrifuge there, Like, did somebody just bring it up to him.
Do you think there was a natural thought like he
was just free speaking, said yeah, what about him at
Penn State.
Speaker 6 (06:17):
I think it could have been more of just a
stream of conscious thing he was. He was more going
into it from the fresh start approach, and then he
was trying to rack in his brain like what could
I do? What's a the school? Who could I grab?
I'm not going to do an NFL take. Everybody has
that same tire take. What the Ben Roethlisberger sound by
here's his leverage.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
Mike Tomlin wants this job. Ben Roethlisberger is talking about it.
Speaker 6 (06:39):
Look at how great we are, right, I mean we
called Tomlin too right, just say that we would have
had the kid, we would have had the fort Cherry.
Tomlin had said, yes right there, yes exactly. So I
would definitely lean into it. You have to ask, though,
I mean, come on, it's a layup for you right there.
I can see you right now.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
Oh.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
Brooke already baited me on Twitter about having to ask
about Ben States. She sent the tweet out she knew
I would respond, I responded, Now, I feel obliged.
Speaker 6 (07:04):
It's gonna be even better since they're going to lose
to Baltimore, and you're gonna asked the question of Baltimore.
I can't ask him if Henry two hundred yards rushing.
You go to Penn State, coach, do you think I'd
get a.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
Different response or would he just like storm off the
podium like he did.
Speaker 6 (07:17):
We might give you that eye, that that side eye
storm off the podium, which would be great. Imagine if
you ended the press conference at like twelve fifteen on Tuesday, what.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
If like Jack Ham showed up and asked he couldn't
do that to Jack cam.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
How about Ben?
Speaker 3 (07:31):
Ben? I mean, come on, what is Spence came in
on behalf of Ben Roethlisberger.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
Yeah, no, Chef Evan.
Speaker 6 (07:37):
Chef Evan comes in and asks and he can cook
up a nice little dish for Tom On to ease
the ease himself into the question.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
Yeah, what is Tomlin's favorite treat on the road? Oh,
chicken wings.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
He always talks about chicken wings, her ice wings for
your coach. Yeah, you go to Penn State. All right,
to Ben's next summit, because there's a theme developing within
Ben's soundbites.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
Okay, let's get to this next one.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
You don't fire a guy like coach Tomlin. He's a
Hall of Fame coach, easier respect.
Speaker 4 (08:00):
What you do is you come to an understanding and
agreement and it's like, hey, listen, I think it's probably
best for both of us, and you don't. Because listen,
we've had different We've had the same head coach and
coach Tomlin. We've had different office of coordinators, different defensive coordinators,
but it's kind of been the same story.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
We've had a few court office coordinators.
Speaker 4 (08:17):
Now on the offense looks a lot the same that
this looks a lot like Mtcannon's offense. I mean in
terms of just like where's the splash, where's this?
Speaker 2 (08:25):
Where's you know? Players? Is the scheme great and the
players are messing up? We don't know.
Speaker 4 (08:29):
I'm just saying from from sitting back on the couch
at home watching and the defense is you've got the
highest paid defense and guys, we just talked about it
like there's no reason to some of the things that
are happening are happening. So therefore it tells me, you
go a coach, listen, let's I think it's probably best
for all parties involved. Let's start over. It happened with
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Chuck Nole, happens with Coach Coward. Now, Coach Cowards was
a little bit different, right because the family things coach
has been in Coach Thomas been a long time.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
Now, there's a lot right that Ben Roethlisberger said. They're
talking about the coordinators, talking about the state of the
offense not being all that different, talking about how the
defense is so overrated and so over paid.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
All of that is accurate.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
The problem that I've got with what he said there
was at the very very beginning of that SoundBite, you
don't fire Mike Tomlin.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
Yes you do, Yes, you do. And that's the one.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
Bit of angst that I still have with how the
national media is portraying this story. The one twist that
I've got to this as now Rich Eisen is jumping
on board, Mike Greenberg is jumping on board former Steelers,
even not his big name as Ben Roethlisberger are jumping
on board. National outlets are talking about a divorce coming
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for Mike Tomlin and the Steelers. People are starting to
embrace a new chapter head Coach finally being written for
the Steelers after Mike Tomlin, but still no one is
backing it from the standpoint of Art Rudy, the second
acting with the directive of his own to fire the coach.
It's got to be a mutual party. It's got to
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be something that they come together on. It's got to
be a trade to the Giants. It's got to be
a neatly worded press release. No, it doesn't and it
probably won't be. And maybe it's because people don't want
the messy divorce. You know, Tom, I went through a
very easy divorce. It's nice when it happens, it's great
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when it happens. It could have gone the other way.
Thankfully for me it didn't. Yes, but I've seen them
go the other way for other people before. It's not
always easy. It can be messy, and this one might
be messy because, as Ben just said right there, it
was easy for the Steelers because Chuck Nole didn't coach again.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
Bill Cowar didn't coach again. It's still on the desk
at CBS.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
You know, there was a lot of time there. No
everybody thought Chuck Noll was done. But had Brown Anthers,
the Giants. Yeah, those three teams we just said them
within the span of five years. But there was always
this thought that it was as much about money, if
not more, than it was about K. And like if
somebody came along and offered him more money, we didn't
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know how sick k really was at the time. Like,
you know, there's a lot of retrospective history and sort
of whitewashing of that situation that has been done. But
there was mass speculation within the Pittsburgh media the coward
was going to go elsewhere, mass and that's gonna happen
here with Tomlin, and he is not going to stay
on the sidelines. I don't think he is a football
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lifer and more interested and more wed to the game
than Cower ever was. Everybody within the walls of that
office says that everybody coward other interests.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Cower wanted to do TV. He was done.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
He had his girls that were still playing basketball at
the time. If I'm if I'm thinking of this, Mike's
kids are older now than Bill's kids were when he
stepped away. So like, the timing is not there for
Tomlin to go away gracefully into the hinter lands or
you know, just be on the desk with Rex Ryan.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
That's not gonna happen. It's gonna be messy, warm up to.
Speaker 6 (12:17):
It, no doubt, because they just ignore the fact that
it has to be you know, both parties that want
to do this. And if the Steelers go to Mike
Tomlin and say, hey, it's time for us to move on,
we don't want to have these you know, rapaport headlines
and all this stuff about Steelers fire Mike Tomlin. We
don't want that attached to either of us, Mike, So
why don't we just mutually agree that this is it's
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time to move on?
Speaker 2 (12:38):
Right?
Speaker 3 (12:38):
We go with that, Toma just goes no, I want
to say, I think I like it here, You're gonna
have to fire him. Then at that point, if you
don't have the guts to do it, then you're stuck
with the coach who is beneath you, deciding that he
gets to keep his own job. And you know what
else that they're not willing to do. I bet you
they're not even willing to go to him on the
no trade clause thing, because it's a Getty Malkins situation.
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Once you open up the Pandora's box of hey, Mike,
somebody's interested what you don't want me anymore? Then it
really gets sour. And then you kind of have to
make the move and maybe you don't have the leverage
to get back what you think is worthy. Although if
you were to go to the Giants, it's got to
be their first round pick or nothing.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
Right, And really, how messy is it you fire your coach?
Everybody does that?
Speaker 6 (13:21):
What you have to wear a steven as being mad
at you for a news cycle on first take, like
this isn't like an actual even behind it now though,
well it's not like the actual divorce where like you
have to pay alimony to Mike Tomlin for the rest
of your life, like every fifth round half do I
mean like there might be well, every fifth round pick
has to go to Mike Tomlin now and then momset language.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
That's the same thing as alimony, but.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
It's not as extreme like that, Like, sure you're gonna
have to bear the news cycle of Steelers finally fire
a head coach.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
Who really cares, Like that's mild stuff.
Speaker 6 (13:53):
Every other team goes through that, and in fact, when
every other team goes through it, it's quite often cheered.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
On by the media. It's decision, he's stunk. Who's going
to be the new hire? What's going to be more awkward?
Speaker 3 (14:04):
Firing Mike Tomlin in January if they've finished below five hundred,
or they lose out, or if it really gets bad.
What's going to be more awkward firing him two months
from now or five months from now when you're on
the clock at pick ten and everybody's chanting fire Tomlin
because he's still on the staff.
Speaker 6 (14:25):
Because they will. Yeah, but then they wouldn't fire him
after that. They wouldn't like go to the draft them.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
Say if you want awkwardness, if you want how is
this going to look on the outside it's going to
happen if they lose out, what are they gonna do?
Speaker 6 (14:38):
The crowd for twelve picks over three days on ESPY
don't care about that either. I mean that there's no
way that they're going to do that. So, yeah, it's
gonna come through, and you're right, it's going to get ugly.
I just don't think that that's gonna Shan.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
Might not, but uh NFL network might whitewash that a
little bit.
Speaker 6 (14:54):
That's true, But I don't do you think that will
shake them at all?
Speaker 1 (14:59):
No?
Speaker 3 (15:00):
No, But I mean, like if it's you're to your point,
like that's what's an uncomfortable moment. Why are you willing
to lean into that one? But not like you know,
people saying, hell, you finally fired a head coach. Rooney's
don't fire head coaches. This one did well. Ben has
an answer to make all of these tough conversations go away.
Speaker 4 (15:18):
Give him a statue, do it, do whatever whatever you
got to do, because he deserves it, He's earned it.
But it's it's like, Okay, it's time to find that
next guy. And who's that next guy that could that
could be here for the next twenty years.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
I don't know this.
Speaker 4 (15:31):
I haven't talked Couch talking about it, but but I
think he might say, like, it's time for a fresh
start when you've been in one place in the NFL
for that long, like even the greatest of like you know,
you talk about the Belichicks and the Gibbs and the
Seafferts and the Reed Andy Reid, any red switch and
when you know, like and now do you think he
for one minute regrets it or or anybody? I mean, well,
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that's now that EGS have won since he's left. Yeah,
he's one as best for port And so again I'm
not trying to like be nasty or this another.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
I just think that it might be even coach might
say it's time for a change.
Speaker 4 (16:04):
And again, if that's college, I don't know if it's
pro again.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
Again, it's gotta be with his blessing. You can't fire him.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
It's gotta be with Tomlin's blessing, and give him a statue.
There's one guy that has a statue. One guy, not
that guy's son who actually ran the team, Not the
guy who built the steel curtain on the field, and
mean Joe Green, not the coach who won the first
four Super Bowls, not the coach before.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
Mike Tomlin Ben, not even you, right, you don't have
a statue. You're the best quarterback? Are you reading franchise history?
Speaker 3 (16:38):
The other one with four rings on his finger doesn't
have this. Not a statue, Franco, no statue, not even
all but not outside the stadium, not in bronze him.
He has a statue that's actually coming back. We don't
know about the dinosaur. Is the dinosaur coming back?
Speaker 1 (16:51):
This dinosaur has to come back. Where is the dinosaur?
Is the dinstaur?
Speaker 3 (16:56):
You were somewhere raising money, wasn't it, Franco, wasn't raising money?
Speaker 6 (16:59):
The dinosaur had tons of dollar bills and coins, always
at the base of its feet.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
There you go, Actually, not to say that out loud.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
Was there something that you could donate money to for
Franco when he was.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
I mean maybe a box, but I was as exciting
as this giant.
Speaker 3 (17:11):
But he was always leaning over to pick it up.
He was taking the ball away, he was taking all
the money away. They are too far, Ben, all right, like,
way too far there with your take. You did enough
with the Penn State one. You moved to the needle enough.
Speaker 6 (17:22):
You don't need to go even further into the void
and say Tomlin needs a statue. There's so many steelers
that deserve a statue more than Mike Tomlin, so many.
And I don't even think that's an insult to Mike Tomlin.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
When we come back. Oh, it wasn't just Ben talking.
It was the father of a current steeler ripping another
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Speaker 1 (19:00):
I still allowed to do that show after two weeks off? Yeah,
what's up with you? Huh?
Speaker 6 (19:03):
You finally decided to come back tonight? Do came basketball?
That you off the hook?
Speaker 1 (19:06):
No called the game last night?
Speaker 6 (19:08):
So I saw a heartbreaker for the Dukes, a comeback,
huge comeback, Yeah, and then a heartbreaker at the end.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
It did great too, So I had fun at the peat.
Did you go last night? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (19:17):
I did?
Speaker 1 (19:18):
Was the final score? They ended up losing by like
eight or nine? No, it might have been less than.
Speaker 6 (19:21):
That two at halftime, right Padalina one point in the
second half.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
Ten they did, they did. Imagine that you're there for
the big buzzer beater against Ohio State.
Speaker 6 (19:28):
I was there for that. That was That was my
good moment of pit basketball this year. Imagine that the
tim a Pittsburgh team holding a second half lead and
then blowing it immediately, just peeing down their legs.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
I have so many We always do this thing with
Matt Williams, who's always a guest here on the Mark
Badden Show. I have so many non Matt Matt stats
because Matt always has his stat pack, and I make
Matt mad by finding stats that I think rival is.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
Can I give you some of them? Please?
Speaker 2 (19:53):
Do?
Speaker 6 (19:54):
I love these stats? These are probably gonna bury the Steelers.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
Last five games the Steelers are We're oh of thirteen
on passes over twenty yards.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
I said that yesterday on the show. Oh you have
that one?
Speaker 6 (20:05):
I had a trifecta of just some awful stats, and
that was one of them. I haven't completed a downfield
pass in thirty six days to him?
Speaker 1 (20:12):
Do you know what? Mike Tomlins never had a losing season.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
That can't be right. I think you're aware of that stat, right. However,
how long is the season tom seventeen games? What's Mike
Tomlins record over the last seventeen games?
Speaker 2 (20:25):
Oh? Is he?
Speaker 6 (20:27):
I say this one six? I didn't say this that yesterday,
but I saw that.
Speaker 3 (20:31):
Yeah, here's a real one that I actually find very interesting.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
One No.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
One is the number of rushing games over one hundred
yards for Lamar Jackson since the start of last season.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
Since the start of last season.
Speaker 6 (20:45):
Now, that is interesting because we all know he's playing
hurt right now and that's why he's not running as much.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
He had one hundred yards against the Chiefs. He hasn't
one hundred yard day running since then. He's eighty one
against the Steelers.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
He was effective as hell as around our last.
Speaker 3 (20:57):
I felt like he was running with more of a
purpose last year. And I'll give you one more zero
for one. That would be match Son from half court
at the University of Kentucky. Oh my god, I did
see that. Did you see him that close?
Speaker 1 (21:09):
Though? It was really close? Sailed ten k? Yes, come on,
Williamson Junior.
Speaker 3 (21:14):
So that's not just ten k that matt Son would
have had at the University of Kentucky.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
That's ten k that MATC doesn't.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
Have to pay to the University of kentuckuition, right, and
that would have been beers for us at Park Social.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
That didn't happen, all right, So we had big news.
Speaker 8 (21:30):
Huh.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
I have once that for you too.
Speaker 6 (21:31):
It's not everybody's seen it, but the Mike Tomlin has
now gone sixty two straight games with seven or fewer
points in the first quarter. If you include the playoff games,
that's sixty four. That's so hard to believe. Like put
that on his gravestone. You think you'd get ten accidentally,
you'd think you'd get nine just off the grace of
Boswell trotting out there and kicking a few field goals.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
Yeah, I mean like you you might get a long
kick return and then get a field goal in a
three and out, then have a real drive. Or you
might score a touchdown and then TJ can it's a
strip sack and you get a field goal in advantageous
field position.
Speaker 6 (22:04):
But no, no, I like how Warren Sharp has added
the longest streak by any head coach before they were
fired in NFL history. It's just the longest streak by
any head coach in NFL history, but the longest fired.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
Yeah with Tom on at this point. But I understand
we're breaking news. You told me about Adam Schefter is now.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
Oh that's right.
Speaker 3 (22:22):
I forgot about my own breaking news. He's streaming us
right now. He has said, you know what, those guys
in Pittsburgh, they're onto something. I've got to add fuel
to the Roethlisberger Penn State fire.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
Fifteen minutes ago.
Speaker 3 (22:32):
Another Trip employee speaking something into existence, Tom.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
What's going on?
Speaker 6 (22:37):
Fifteen minutes ago from the big dog himself, Adam Schefter,
Roethlisberger suggested on his Football and with Ben Roethlisberger podcast
that Mike Tomlin is a good fit for the vacant
Penn State job. Gasoline meet the fire there is now
blasted out to how many people to follow, Schefter, It's
got to be close to it's eleven point three million people.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
This is now news.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
I bet you this pops up on the ESPN homepage,
you know that little running tap of headlines.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
I bet you.
Speaker 6 (23:01):
Roethlisbergers suggests Tomlin fit at Penn State. You got asked him.
I mean, everything is leading to you.
Speaker 3 (23:06):
Oh my god, Tomlin is going to be like Ai
superimposed into Beaver Stadium at the white out.
Speaker 6 (23:14):
It's already on ESPN's Headlight's the second headline on the page.
Amid Tomlin angst big Ben floats Penn State job.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
Yes, Yes, the Power of Trip's suggestion again. Thank you
Seth Wrobo for putting it into the ether. All right,
we got distracted. Should we come back because we're low
on time. Let's come back with us? So we gotta
let the Asante Samuel ripping dk Metcalf thing breathe. We
didn't start the fire. Screw you, Billy Joel. We did
(23:43):
start the fire.
Speaker 5 (23:46):
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Speaker 3 (24:30):
Tom In the last five minutes, has anybody else from
our paper spoken anything in New existence.
Speaker 6 (24:35):
Now, nothing's happened. You haven't won that lottery. What were
some of the other cool things he said at the
beginning of the show, Brooklyn.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
Decker sliding into my Dmshow she's like she's had a
second Brooklyn Decker, Yeah, like a second coming, right.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
I don't know. I think she's on a show now,
you know.
Speaker 6 (24:49):
I think her husband, Andy Roddick, is in that movie
about pickleball that they're making with Ben Stiller.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
I think that's true. I think he's in it.
Speaker 6 (24:56):
As as a feature that she should be in it. Yes,
she has to be, just even in the back on
cheering him on Super Nice. He met Brooklyn?
Speaker 3 (25:04):
Yeah, I met her at the Super Bowl between the
Giants and the Patriots, the second time the Giants beat
him in Indy.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
I met her on Super Bowl Media Day. I bet
she was pretty nice. Yeah, those were the days, all right.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
So I don't want to get further along because we've
teased this twice now and it's time to get there.
Here is Asante Samuel's dad, new stealer Asante Samuel.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
Dad has a podcast. I don't know who.
Speaker 3 (25:30):
Dad does the podcast with some other guy kind of
like Spence and but not like Spence, but some other guy.
He does this podcast with Sante's dad here, former NFL cornerback,
blaming Aaron Rodgers for how things.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
Have gone wrong in Pittsburgh.
Speaker 8 (25:49):
I think it's about time for Aaron Rodgers old self
to to go ahead and hoping someone's boot and start
his broadcasting career. When I say old though, I mean
old football year. Time for old man quick is to
give it up. Are you used to seeing stats like
this from Aaron Rodgers ten for twenty one, one hundred
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and seventeen yards pass in total, no touchdowns, And then
we can't even put a DK Metcalf up here because
he's an impact.
Speaker 3 (26:21):
Yeah, and that's where it gets good. By the way,
Aaron Rodgers and broadcasting, Oh that'd be bad.
Speaker 6 (26:26):
He's hosting Jeopardy. I thought I thought that was always
the parachute or did he miss that? They just got
to think Jennings because with Rogers we don't need Ken Jennings.
He would just debate all the facts that are up there.
This is wrong. This eight hundred point answer is wrong.
I do not reward you the points.
Speaker 3 (26:42):
This is where Sante goes after Dk. You're starting to
go down that path, and once he went down that path,
he did not stop.
Speaker 8 (26:49):
He is most of the problem. Yet the end of
the day, Aaron Rodgers needs someone to throw too.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
He used to have an.
Speaker 8 (26:54):
Elite sy was decade suddenly get open. Like I said before,
DK Metcalf just can't from that for Aaron Rodgs. Aaron
and DK Metcalf is the reason Aaron Rodgers is looking
so because he keeps trying to throw DK metcalfter football
and he is not even getting an ounce of separation,
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especially when he's going against press copy.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
And as much as.
Speaker 8 (27:19):
Daron Rodgers still wants to win, man, it just doesn't
have the talent that receiver to make things happen. I
know it has to be very frustrating for Aaron Rodgers
dealing with a trying to get the football the DK.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
Metcalf he does now Adam feeling.
Speaker 6 (27:36):
The answer solves the problems of all the offense. Hey,
happy forty second birthday, Aaron. Here's a thirty five year
old wide receiver for you. Meanwhile, and VS is like,
what what because Steeling's on the roster right Like, I
don't think this is a practice squad mcgun. I think
he's gonna play on Sunday Baltimore unless he's inactive.
Speaker 3 (27:52):
So do you think he's right on that, because don't
some of the advanced analytics kind of tell a different
story about DK that he actually is getting open more
than our eyes are telling us.
Speaker 6 (28:01):
I think DK Metcalf is to blame for his shortcomings,
for sure, But I also think that it's ignorant to
ignore the fact that there's literally nothing else in the
Steelers passing game that could take even an ounce of
attention away from him. And Matt Williamson said it a
thousand times probably on our Wednesday show. If you ever
show up to the Wednesday show on this show when
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he's talked to you, like, DK's not this like true,
true number one wide receiver where you can double, triple,
quadruple and he's still gonna get eight catches for one
hundred yards. He's on that tier below that. So if
you have nothing else that worries teams, then like what
can you expect DK to.
Speaker 3 (28:38):
It's also pretty easy to cover DK Metcalf or any
other wide receiver when you know that they're not going
to run into the middle of the field.
Speaker 6 (28:45):
That's true, Like the sideline is the secondary defender, and
they're as an offense going towards it willingly, You're like,
thank you. Usually I have to bump you out there
to run up down the sidelines.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
You just want to do that.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
Here's a little bit more from Samuel on why he
thinks DK stinks biggest.
Speaker 8 (29:04):
D Matcalf is big and strong as he is. It's
like the basketball players. I don't know how many of
you all play basketball, right you're playing middle school ball
or high school ball. You have, but there's always that
one six foot nine guard, six foot nine to four
that wants to come play guard with the six foot
two players. And that's the problem with DK Matcalf, big
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and strong as he is, he tries to play fall
for next football, for next football, at the line of scrimmage,
thinking his bast twitch muscles can shake DB's at the
line of scrimmage, when.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
He should be playing physical.
Speaker 8 (29:42):
As possible, like Michael Irvan, like the physical receivers to
get off the line of scrimmags.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
He should be.
Speaker 8 (29:48):
Making contact and throwing man handling DB's.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
Left and right.
Speaker 8 (29:52):
But instead he thinks he has the agility and the
quickness to get open suddenly, and he doesn't that's the
problem with and they Aaron Rodgers continue to try to
look for him. He just makes everything look terrible and
oh man played and outdated and everything goes No.
Speaker 3 (30:13):
I think Arthur Smith has something to do with that too.
But a couple of things there to what he just said.
First of all, where did a Sante Samuel senior grow up?
That they got six foot nine kids in middle school
basketball and they're trying to play guard and they're trying
to be the point guard. See now there, he does
have a point because that guy. Everybody has played basketball
with that guy. He's right about that. Where you're playing
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pick up basketball and it's short guys like you and
me who are picking teams and something. Some big guy
walks in the court, like I got that guy first,
and all he does is stand outside and shoot threes
and miss him. I could do that and you could
get the rebounds and we can stay on the court
all day. Let me miss the threes and you can
rebound him and put it back. No, the big guy
always has to stand outside and shoot.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
The three used to drive me crazy. Why not just
pick up anymore? Buddy?
Speaker 6 (30:59):
I mean, watch a call basketball game, Watch an NBA game.
I mean the bigs are outside the perimeter plays. They
want to shoot the threes. He's so right about that comparison.
When it comes to DK though, that should be the
number one combat catching wide receiver in the NFL. And
it said he's good, so soft at it, I mean
soft as hell at it. It's easy for defensive backs
to get him off of his game. When it comes
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to the combat catch.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
You can't.
Speaker 6 (31:22):
You can't trust him, And honestly, I think Rogers knows
that because he kind of throws to the other receivers
and the tight ends more for those combat catches than
he does DK and Rudolph. It was a terrible pass
when he overthrew Mount Washington or when he that was
a bad pass two yes, yes, but I'm bad passes
skipped it to DK the Bears. One is what I
was thinking of when na Sean Wright made the great interception.
(31:44):
Dam was like falling backwards out of bounds. Just tackle right,
do anything, get a flag, it doesn't matter, do something.
So he's so spot on a Sante Samuel as far
as that's concerned. In that comparison, he just plays so small.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
All right, we come back.
Speaker 3 (31:59):
We got to try on the way that at the
top of the hour, we'll get back into Steelers conversation,
specifically Mike Tomlin conversation. We love that to open up
the three o'clock hour. Mike to course in the three
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Speaker 3 (32:36):
Cloud to the Trifected sponsored by Danny's Pizza and Hogy's
Pittsburgh's original oven baked Hogy since nineteen sixty Route eighty
eight in Bethel Park. Tim and for Mark today, Tom,
what is the trifector for today?
Speaker 6 (32:49):
For today's Trifecta, Tim, We're gonna go with Pittsburgher's who
are more deserving of a statue than Mike Tomlin Since
Ben Roethlisberger declared that we should build one for Mike
t to kind of I guess was that Ben's way
of saying, we'll ease the blow of.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
Moving on from him, like kind of like, hey.
Speaker 3 (33:03):
We'll give you this statue if you just get the
hell out of here and go to Happy Valley. I
think there's a little something to that. Yes, bribing with statues.
Speaker 1 (33:11):
I love it.
Speaker 6 (33:12):
Number three on my list of a Pittsburgh that deserves
a statue more. I'm gonna go with saxophone guy and
you gotta put that statue, you know, right there on
one of his perches on the Clemeny Bridge.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
It'd be perfect. Number two, I'm gonna go with Sid.
Speaker 6 (33:26):
And then number one, I'm gonna go with the guy
at P and C Park, the usher who beat that
fan with his belt this year. That would be the
coolest statue ever, don't you think like if you could
get like the belt kind of mid like whack whack,
that'd be awesome.
Speaker 3 (33:39):
Well, let's compare Sid the merits of Sid to those
other two fine representatives that you just advanced.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
Sid has been known.
Speaker 3 (33:46):
To whack a flyer in the calf from time to time,
slash and get away with it, And he taught Blake
Lozat that too.
Speaker 1 (33:53):
Did you see what he did? Yes?
Speaker 3 (33:55):
I did see that. To Hathaway, that was beautiful, real
good move. That was Sid inspired. I'm sure still not
the guy with the belt, though, I think I'm with
you on this one. And Saxophone Guy, sure there was
a place, There was a time, although I think there's
somebody threatening Saxophone.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
Guy's place in the Pittsburgh lexicon. Are you aware of this?
Speaker 3 (34:15):
Like freestyle rapper who's at all the games and all
the venues?
Speaker 1 (34:19):
Now, No, I'm not.
Speaker 6 (34:20):
This is like a modern twist on saxophone guys sort of.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (34:24):
I mean like I was unaware of him, and apparently
I was late to the party. Other people know who
he is, know about him. He's got his own YouTube channel.
I just, for the life of me, don't know his name.
But I was crutching along after I had my surgery
for one of the early Penguin games, and I was
going down to the media entrance from where we parked,
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and he was rapping on the corner, like, you know,
a stone's throwaway from Saxophone Guy, and he sees me
crutching towards him, and he breaks his freestyle with you know,
stays in rhythm and somehow makes up a rhyme about
me crutching by him.
Speaker 1 (35:04):
I was incredibly impressed. And then I saw him.
Speaker 3 (35:06):
Again a few weeks later as I was leaving and
I wasn't on crutches anymore by this point. As I
was leaving a Steeler game, he was rapping at somebody
else and just immediately put them into a rhyme without
missing a beat. This guy's got skills. Man, I'm impressed.
Speaker 6 (35:21):
And you're telling me that he was setting up shop
like right down the street from Saxophone Guy's turf Like,
this is a turf war happening right now.
Speaker 1 (35:28):
It could be now, I could see them combining forces.
Speaker 6 (35:31):
Well, I will say this about Saxophone Guy, even though
I gave him a statue here on my trifecta Saxophone
Guy can be bought to a disgusting degree. Case in point,
you throw some nickels in there, you say, play the
Notre Dame fight song, Play you know, country Roads, West
Virginia Town. He'll indulge that, And I think it's a
little disgusting, to be honest with you.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
The country roads thing.
Speaker 3 (35:49):
Have you noticed how crazy the fans go for country
roads in every European venue that the NFL plays, the
Germans especially well, I sure did too.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
Did you hear him? It is a good song, right
to be fair? Is it that good?
Speaker 8 (36:04):
Though?
Speaker 3 (36:05):
Whenever I've been in Europe, which is not a lot,
but I've been to England, I've been to Ireland, and
I've been to Italy. Wagonwheel and freaking country roads any bar, anytime.
And it's not just the Americans, and it's not just
for the Americans.
Speaker 1 (36:21):
They love it over there. It's nuts. I don't get it.
I don't understand it. Are they making fun of us?
Is it like a sly way to make fun of us?
Speaker 3 (36:27):
Like?
Speaker 6 (36:27):
Look at how stupid these songs are? It might be
these great Americana songs.
Speaker 3 (36:32):
Well, speaking of country roads, how about the kid who
flipped his commitment.
Speaker 6 (36:37):
A siege for Cherry Yes, going to West Virginia, Rich Rod.
I mean they had to pay him a lot, right, do.
Speaker 3 (36:42):
You feel like you've been turned upon because you were
supposed to turn away from Penn State and turn to
pitt Wasn't that the belief?
Speaker 6 (36:47):
I thought he was going to turn away from Penn
State and go right to Blacksburg, Virginia, well, I thought
a little bit surprised that he's at West Virginia. My
focus right now is a pittfan. Tam is keeping Mason
and keeping Turner. The backfield needs to stay intact. And
that's kind of like, don't you think that this day
has lost all its time?
Speaker 8 (37:03):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (37:04):
I was just gonna say, the high school recruit they
walked me right into it, cares about this day.
Speaker 1 (37:08):
I love that no one cares about it.
Speaker 3 (37:10):
I hated National Letter of Intent Day, I hated National
Signing Day, despised it.
Speaker 1 (37:16):
Oh my god, Like I still I don't.
Speaker 3 (37:19):
Have to talk to Ice about this when Seis comes on,
because I think Seiss was out there with me for
the Terrell Prior Day, Oh my god, the Terrell Prior
Day that turned into a Terrell Prior week and Anthony
Morelli over out at Penhills.
Speaker 1 (37:32):
Like, I just hated covering those signing days.
Speaker 3 (37:35):
And the thing about it now is it just doesn't
matter because they flipped their commitments.
Speaker 1 (37:39):
They arrive on campus and they're gone in a year.
Especially quarterbacks.
Speaker 3 (37:44):
You know, quarterbacks are the big fish that always land
and if they don't start out of the gate, then
they transfer or they announced their plans to transfer eight
games into the season. It doesn't matter anymore. I love
that what college football has become has watered down National
letter of intent day. If there is a residue that
I like about what has become of college football, it's this.
Speaker 6 (38:05):
Yeah, I mean, it just doesn't matter anymore because like
these kids, you know, yeah, you want to get good
high school recruits, but it's about keeping your team intact
once you have them, and you want to find talent
in the portal more than you want to find high
school kaus, Cause, say four star, five star recruits from
high school, Yeah, they'll probably be pretty good players, But
I'm sure these coaches are much more interested in the
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proven commodities that you know, they've seen play at a
college level already for a season or two and know, hey,
they can handle this. Maybe they deserve a step up
from a group of five to a power four real quick.
Speaker 3 (38:39):
Have you ever feat conspiracy theory floated by Todd McShay
about why Penn State doesn't have a coach yet, No,
because this Jimmy Sexton thing.
Speaker 1 (38:46):
No, because Jimmy Sexton is sort.
Speaker 3 (38:49):
Of like the power broker agent for college coaches, all right,
He's got like every coach under his thumb, and Franklin's
one of his guys, and he is deliberately getting expensive
contracts for coaches to stay in their current positions so
they don't go to Penn State because he's mad at
Penn State. That's the theory that's being advanced, which if
(39:11):
it's true, I love I love a good petty Jimmy
Sexton two turning his sites towards Penn State. I mean,
it's hard for me to say this and not sound
like such a biased douche to be honest with you,
because I hate Penn State and I'm a Pit fan.
Speaker 1 (39:27):
But they completely nuked that program, right Tim.
Speaker 3 (39:29):
I mean, like, I know it's really in the immediacy
of it, and sure, I guess they can turn it around,
but like they're not going to reach the heights that
Franklin had them at, and they were pretty good heights.
Speaker 1 (39:37):
They were in the semi finals last year.
Speaker 3 (39:40):
What if it is pitt versus Penn State in the
pin Strape Bowl, would Penn State go?
Speaker 6 (39:46):
That's a good question. Most of that roster is going
to hit the portal and probably go to Virginia Tech.
Wouldn't you imagine.
Speaker 3 (39:52):
Potentially, like, how about finally getting Pitt and Penn State
in a bowl game? And it could mean absolute crap.
Speaker 6 (39:58):
As long as Mason and there, that's all we need.
We can just play with those two on the field.
I think we'd beat them.
Speaker 1 (40:04):
In thirty seconds.
Speaker 3 (40:05):
One very important person did not hear the chance of fire, Tomlin.
We'll get into that next. For the three o'clock hour,
Tim Benzon for Mark Madden one of five, nine the X.
It's the
Radio station.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Guaranteed Humans.
Speaker 3 (00:13):
On Sunday night, as the Steelers were being beaten down
by the Buffalo Bills, Trib Live hockey reporter Seth Roba
sent out the following tweet. Mike Tomlin will say we
can't eat soup with forks, we need spoons. Then the
Steelers will sign a twenty eighteen pro bowler to the
practice squad lo and behold. On Tuesday, Mike Tomlin compared
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his level of confidence in the Steelers to media members
writing columns, and the Steelers signed twenty eighteen pro bowler
Adam Thielen. So in the vein of trib Live employees
speaking the absurd into reality, I am predicting that the
next time the power ball hits a billion dollars, I
will win it. Twenty eleven Era, Brooklyn Decker is going
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to slide into myn DMS and Carmelo Anthony's kid is
gonna take Syracuse to a national title like his dad did.
Check back with me in two days. I'll let you
know how things are going, is Brooklyn Decker on Twitter.
I'm Tim Benz. This is the Mark Madden Show. Mark
is off today. Let's stick with the theme of speaking
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things into existence, shall we. It's only taken half a
decade or so for the national media and former Steelers
players to catch on to what some media people like
you know myself and Mark Madden have been saying for
years that is time for the Steelers to fire Mike Tomlin.
And maybe enough people are talking about it now that
(01:43):
artrunning the Second will eventually listen.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
Oh my kidding, he's not gonna listen.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
But right now, though, the latest voice in the din
calling for a change at the head coaching position for
the Pittsburgh Steelers is a pretty well known Pittsburgh Steeler.
It's Ben Roethlisberger on his Football In podcast. I bring
in Tommy Radio right now to help me surf through
these sound bites. Tom Let's play the first one from
Ben's most recent Football In podcast, where not only does
(02:15):
he call for a change the head coaching position, he
has a very intriguing future destination for Mike Tomlin.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Maybe it's a clean house time. Maybe it is.
Speaker 4 (02:25):
Maybe it's time, and I like Coach Tomlin. I have
a lot of respect Coach Tomlin. But maybe it's best
for him too. Maybe maybe a fresh start for him
is what's best. Whether that's in the pros, whether maybe
Gobe Penn State's head coach.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
You know what he would do in Penn State.
Speaker 4 (02:38):
He'd probably go win national championships legitimause.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
He's a great recruiter. That's what I was having to comment.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
We probably had this probably or I was having this
conversation the other day.
Speaker 4 (02:47):
I'm like, coach t in college would be one of
the greatest college football coaches.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
Wood he or would he just lose to Minnesota after
he beat Michigan, because it wouldn't be like Franklin.
Speaker 5 (02:58):
Tom.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
It would be different than frank He would lose to Minnesota,
then beat Michigan, maybe Ohio State, and then get upset
in the first round of the playoff.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
That's what he would do.
Speaker 6 (03:10):
What would be his version of backing into the playoffs
in college football? That would be like going nine and three, right,
Like he'd go nine and three every year, just be
like right on the edge.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
But he'll be nine wins, yeah everything, Yeah.
Speaker 6 (03:19):
It has to be nine wins exactly and just have
everything kind of fall around him appropriately in the Big
ten in the college football landscape to get into it.
Why do we know that Tom would be a great
recruiter because of all his great experience going out on
the high school football trail and recruiting in the transfer portal.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
Well, he's been a great recruiter lately. I mean, look
at how great Darius Slay and Won Thornhill worked.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
Out perfect signings.
Speaker 6 (03:39):
DK Metcalf's looks like he's going to bear a ton
of fruit for the next three or four years.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
When's is the Penn State pit rivalry renew when's the
next time sat Stadium?
Speaker 1 (03:48):
You mean the Pinstripe Bowl coming up in a little Oh, yes,
we'll get to that certainly.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
Yeah, although that's a great idea, That would be a
great idea if he were to become Penn State's coach.
And then the first act is Penn State's coach, which
is to lose to Nardoozi in New York City in
the Pinstripe Bowl.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
But I see your angle here.
Speaker 6 (04:04):
You're just trying to get Tomlin and Nardoozy on opposite
sidelines the Nardoozy Tomlin matchup, Yes, I am, because it
wouldn't happen in time for the Pinstripe Bowl coming up here.
The Steelers would still be playing this season. But I
see your angle.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
In this.
Speaker 6 (04:16):
Imagine a season Tim where Franklin, Belichick, and Tomlin all
come to Akroscher Stadiums to play against Pat Nardoozy's.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
You almost said it.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
You almost didn't say play, You almost said something else.
I was thinking the same thing, so my head finished
the sentence. But I'm right there with you, Tom. If
you want to see me have a coronary, if you
want to see me have a conniption, if you want
to see me committed to Western psych Mike Tomlin becomes
head coach of Penn State after he used me as
a prop in his monologue about how there isn't a
(04:46):
booster with a check big enough six years ago when
this first came up, You remember that when Carson Palmer
was talking about him going to USC.
Speaker 6 (04:54):
Do I remember it? LSU came up too.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
Brought him up for LSU and then blame me for
talking about it, because that's what Ryan does.
Speaker 6 (05:02):
But when I was supposed to tell the coach that
I was saying that, Tim, he was supposed to ignore
it on his own.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
You can't ask him at a press conference.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
So when he blew his stack when I even broached
the topic, if this were to wind up being true,
I would have the meltdown of all meltdowns.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
You would have to commit me.
Speaker 6 (05:19):
You have to ask on Tuesday, right about Penn State
if they win, have to Tim.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
If they win, it's an easy one for you.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
If they win against Baltimore, it would almost be funny
if I did it right.
Speaker 6 (05:32):
Especially coming from you, especially because you know Tomlin remembers
you with lsu usc and we all know that a
week from now, Penn State's still not gonna have a coach.
So you don't think you don't think they're gonna finally
hire somebody.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
Oh, they can't ruin my fun and hire somebody, can they? No,
they got to let this marinate a little bit. Ben
tomin th Ben just put this out into the ether.
What this get published last night? So it's still in
that twenty four hour news cycle. Let's get this some
nice legs here, Tomin to Penn State. Penn State's gonna
love that. Was that just an ext temporaneous thought from Ben?
Or did someone plant that in him.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
Like a Penn State booster? Yeah? Like, Hey, here's a little.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
I'm probably sounding a little bit too much like there's
subtrifuge there, Like, did somebody just bring it up to him.
Do you think there was a natural thought like he
was just free speaking, said yeah, what about him at
Penn State.
Speaker 6 (06:17):
I think it could have been more of just a
stream of conscious thing he was. He was more going
into it from the fresh start approach, and then he
was trying to rack in his brain like what could
I do? What's a the school? Who could I grab?
I'm not going to do an NFL take. Everybody has
that same tire take. What the Ben Roethlisberger sound by
here's his leverage.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
Mike Tomlin wants this job. Ben Roethlisberger is talking about it.
Speaker 6 (06:39):
Look at how great we are, right, I mean we
called Tomlin too right, just say that we would have
had the kid, we would have had the fort Cherry.
Tomlin had said, yes right there, yes exactly. So I
would definitely lean into it. You have to ask, though,
I mean, come on, it's a layup for you right there.
I can see you right now.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
Oh.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
Brooke already baited me on Twitter about having to ask
about Ben States. She sent the tweet out she knew
I would respond, I responded, Now, I feel obliged.
Speaker 6 (07:04):
It's gonna be even better since they're going to lose
to Baltimore, and you're gonna asked the question of Baltimore.
I can't ask him if Henry two hundred yards rushing.
You go to Penn State, coach, do you think I'd
get a.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
Different response or would he just like storm off the
podium like he did.
Speaker 6 (07:17):
We might give you that eye, that that side eye
storm off the podium, which would be great. Imagine if
you ended the press conference at like twelve fifteen on Tuesday, what.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
If like Jack Ham showed up and asked he couldn't
do that to Jack cam.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
How about Ben?
Speaker 3 (07:31):
Ben? I mean, come on, what is Spence came in
on behalf of Ben Roethlisberger.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
Yeah, no, Chef Evan.
Speaker 6 (07:37):
Chef Evan comes in and asks and he can cook
up a nice little dish for Tom On to ease
the ease himself into the question.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
Yeah, what is Tomlin's favorite treat on the road? Oh,
chicken wings.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
He always talks about chicken wings, her ice wings for
your coach. Yeah, you go to Penn State. All right,
to Ben's next summit, because there's a theme developing within
Ben's soundbites.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
Okay, let's get to this next one.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
You don't fire a guy like coach Tomlin. He's a
Hall of Fame coach, easier respect.
Speaker 4 (08:00):
What you do is you come to an understanding and
agreement and it's like, hey, listen, I think it's probably
best for both of us, and you don't. Because listen,
we've had different We've had the same head coach and
coach Tomlin. We've had different office of coordinators, different defensive coordinators,
but it's kind of been the same story.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
We've had a few court office coordinators.
Speaker 4 (08:17):
Now on the offense looks a lot the same that
this looks a lot like Mtcannon's offense. I mean in
terms of just like where's the splash, where's this?
Speaker 2 (08:25):
Where's you know? Players? Is the scheme great and the
players are messing up? We don't know.
Speaker 4 (08:29):
I'm just saying from from sitting back on the couch
at home watching and the defense is you've got the
highest paid defense and guys, we just talked about it
like there's no reason to some of the things that
are happening are happening. So therefore it tells me, you
go a coach, listen, let's I think it's probably best
for all parties involved. Let's start over. It happened with
(08:51):
Chuck Nole, happens with Coach Coward. Now, Coach Cowards was
a little bit different, right because the family things coach
has been in Coach Thomas been a long time.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
Now, there's a lot right that Ben Roethlisberger said. They're
talking about the coordinators, talking about the state of the
offense not being all that different, talking about how the
defense is so overrated and so over paid.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
All of that is accurate.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
The problem that I've got with what he said there
was at the very very beginning of that SoundBite, you
don't fire Mike Tomlin.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
Yes you do, Yes, you do. And that's the one.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
Bit of angst that I still have with how the
national media is portraying this story. The one twist that
I've got to this as now Rich Eisen is jumping
on board, Mike Greenberg is jumping on board former Steelers,
even not his big name as Ben Roethlisberger are jumping
on board. National outlets are talking about a divorce coming
(09:52):
for Mike Tomlin and the Steelers. People are starting to
embrace a new chapter head Coach finally being written for
the Steelers after Mike Tomlin, but still no one is
backing it from the standpoint of Art Rudy, the second
acting with the directive of his own to fire the coach.
It's got to be a mutual party. It's got to
(10:13):
be something that they come together on. It's got to
be a trade to the Giants. It's got to be
a neatly worded press release. No, it doesn't and it
probably won't be. And maybe it's because people don't want
the messy divorce. You know, Tom, I went through a
very easy divorce. It's nice when it happens, it's great
(10:34):
when it happens. It could have gone the other way.
Thankfully for me it didn't. Yes, but I've seen them
go the other way for other people before. It's not
always easy. It can be messy, and this one might
be messy because, as Ben just said right there, it
was easy for the Steelers because Chuck Nole didn't coach again.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
Bill Cowar didn't coach again. It's still on the desk
at CBS.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
You know, there was a lot of time there. No
everybody thought Chuck Noll was done. But had Brown Anthers,
the Giants. Yeah, those three teams we just said them
within the span of five years. But there was always
this thought that it was as much about money, if
not more, than it was about K. And like if
somebody came along and offered him more money, we didn't
(11:19):
know how sick k really was at the time. Like,
you know, there's a lot of retrospective history and sort
of whitewashing of that situation that has been done. But
there was mass speculation within the Pittsburgh media the coward
was going to go elsewhere, mass and that's gonna happen
here with Tomlin, and he is not going to stay
on the sidelines. I don't think he is a football
(11:42):
lifer and more interested and more wed to the game
than Cower ever was. Everybody within the walls of that
office says that everybody coward other interests.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Cower wanted to do TV. He was done.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
He had his girls that were still playing basketball at
the time. If I'm if I'm thinking of this, Mike's
kids are older now than Bill's kids were when he
stepped away. So like, the timing is not there for
Tomlin to go away gracefully into the hinter lands or
you know, just be on the desk with Rex Ryan.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
That's not gonna happen. It's gonna be messy, warm up to.
Speaker 6 (12:17):
It, no doubt, because they just ignore the fact that
it has to be you know, both parties that want
to do this. And if the Steelers go to Mike
Tomlin and say, hey, it's time for us to move on,
we don't want to have these you know, rapaport headlines
and all this stuff about Steelers fire Mike Tomlin. We
don't want that attached to either of us, Mike, So
why don't we just mutually agree that this is it's
(12:37):
time to move on?
Speaker 2 (12:38):
Right?
Speaker 3 (12:38):
We go with that, Toma just goes no, I want
to say, I think I like it here, You're gonna
have to fire him. Then at that point, if you
don't have the guts to do it, then you're stuck
with the coach who is beneath you, deciding that he
gets to keep his own job. And you know what
else that they're not willing to do. I bet you
they're not even willing to go to him on the
no trade clause thing, because it's a Getty Malkins situation.
(13:00):
Once you open up the Pandora's box of hey, Mike,
somebody's interested what you don't want me anymore? Then it
really gets sour. And then you kind of have to
make the move and maybe you don't have the leverage
to get back what you think is worthy. Although if
you were to go to the Giants, it's got to
be their first round pick or nothing.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
Right, And really, how messy is it you fire your coach?
Everybody does that?
Speaker 6 (13:21):
What you have to wear a steven as being mad
at you for a news cycle on first take, like
this isn't like an actual even behind it now though,
well it's not like the actual divorce where like you
have to pay alimony to Mike Tomlin for the rest
of your life, like every fifth round half do I
mean like there might be well, every fifth round pick
has to go to Mike Tomlin now and then momset language.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
That's the same thing as alimony, but.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
It's not as extreme like that, Like, sure you're gonna
have to bear the news cycle of Steelers finally fire
a head coach.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
Who really cares, Like that's mild stuff.
Speaker 6 (13:53):
Every other team goes through that, and in fact, when
every other team goes through it, it's quite often cheered.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
On by the media. It's decision, he's stunk. Who's going
to be the new hire? What's going to be more awkward?
Speaker 3 (14:04):
Firing Mike Tomlin in January if they've finished below five hundred,
or they lose out, or if it really gets bad.
What's going to be more awkward firing him two months
from now or five months from now when you're on
the clock at pick ten and everybody's chanting fire Tomlin
because he's still on the staff.
Speaker 6 (14:25):
Because they will. Yeah, but then they wouldn't fire him
after that. They wouldn't like go to the draft them.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
Say if you want awkwardness, if you want how is
this going to look on the outside it's going to
happen if they lose out, what are they gonna do?
Speaker 6 (14:38):
The crowd for twelve picks over three days on ESPY
don't care about that either. I mean that there's no
way that they're going to do that. So, yeah, it's
gonna come through, and you're right, it's going to get ugly.
I just don't think that that's gonna Shan.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
Might not, but uh NFL network might whitewash that a
little bit.
Speaker 6 (14:54):
That's true, But I don't do you think that will
shake them at all?
Speaker 1 (14:59):
No?
Speaker 3 (15:00):
No, But I mean, like if it's you're to your point,
like that's what's an uncomfortable moment. Why are you willing
to lean into that one? But not like you know,
people saying, hell, you finally fired a head coach. Rooney's
don't fire head coaches. This one did well. Ben has
an answer to make all of these tough conversations go away.
Speaker 4 (15:18):
Give him a statue, do it, do whatever whatever you
got to do, because he deserves it, He's earned it.
But it's it's like, Okay, it's time to find that
next guy. And who's that next guy that could that
could be here for the next twenty years.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
I don't know this.
Speaker 4 (15:31):
I haven't talked Couch talking about it, but but I
think he might say, like, it's time for a fresh
start when you've been in one place in the NFL
for that long, like even the greatest of like you know,
you talk about the Belichicks and the Gibbs and the
Seafferts and the Reed Andy Reid, any red switch and
when you know, like and now do you think he
for one minute regrets it or or anybody? I mean, well,
(15:52):
that's now that EGS have won since he's left. Yeah,
he's one as best for port And so again I'm
not trying to like be nasty or this another.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
I just think that it might be even coach might
say it's time for a change.
Speaker 4 (16:04):
And again, if that's college, I don't know if it's
pro again.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
Again, it's gotta be with his blessing. You can't fire him.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
It's gotta be with Tomlin's blessing, and give him a statue.
There's one guy that has a statue. One guy, not
that guy's son who actually ran the team, Not the
guy who built the steel curtain on the field, and
mean Joe Green, not the coach who won the first
four Super Bowls, not the coach before.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
Mike Tomlin Ben, not even you, right, you don't have
a statue. You're the best quarterback? Are you reading franchise history?
Speaker 3 (16:38):
The other one with four rings on his finger doesn't
have this. Not a statue, Franco, no statue, not even
all but not outside the stadium, not in bronze him.
He has a statue that's actually coming back. We don't
know about the dinosaur. Is the dinosaur coming back?
Speaker 1 (16:51):
This dinosaur has to come back. Where is the dinosaur?
Is the dinstaur?
Speaker 3 (16:56):
You were somewhere raising money, wasn't it, Franco, wasn't raising money?
Speaker 6 (16:59):
The dinosaur had tons of dollar bills and coins, always
at the base of its feet.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
There you go, Actually, not to say that out loud.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
Was there something that you could donate money to for
Franco when he was.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
I mean maybe a box, but I was as exciting
as this giant.
Speaker 3 (17:11):
But he was always leaning over to pick it up.
He was taking the ball away, he was taking all
the money away. They are too far, Ben, all right, like,
way too far there with your take. You did enough
with the Penn State one. You moved to the needle enough.
Speaker 6 (17:22):
You don't need to go even further into the void
and say Tomlin needs a statue. There's so many steelers
that deserve a statue more than Mike Tomlin, so many.
And I don't even think that's an insult to Mike Tomlin.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
When we come back. Oh, it wasn't just Ben talking.
It was the father of a current steeler ripping another
current steeler. That's next here on one oh five nine
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Speaker 1 (19:00):
I still allowed to do that show after two weeks off? Yeah,
what's up with you? Huh?
Speaker 6 (19:03):
You finally decided to come back tonight? Do came basketball?
That you off the hook?
Speaker 1 (19:06):
No called the game last night?
Speaker 6 (19:08):
So I saw a heartbreaker for the Dukes, a comeback,
huge comeback, Yeah, and then a heartbreaker at the end.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
It did great too, So I had fun at the peat.
Did you go last night? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (19:17):
I did?
Speaker 1 (19:18):
Was the final score? They ended up losing by like
eight or nine? No, it might have been less than.
Speaker 6 (19:21):
That two at halftime, right Padalina one point in the
second half.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
Ten they did, they did. Imagine that you're there for
the big buzzer beater against Ohio State.
Speaker 6 (19:28):
I was there for that. That was That was my
good moment of pit basketball this year. Imagine that the
tim a Pittsburgh team holding a second half lead and
then blowing it immediately, just peeing down their legs.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
I have so many We always do this thing with
Matt Williams, who's always a guest here on the Mark
Badden Show. I have so many non Matt Matt stats
because Matt always has his stat pack, and I make
Matt mad by finding stats that I think rival is.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
Can I give you some of them? Please?
Speaker 2 (19:53):
Do?
Speaker 6 (19:54):
I love these stats? These are probably gonna bury the Steelers.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
Last five games the Steelers are We're oh of thirteen
on passes over twenty yards.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
I said that yesterday on the show. Oh you have
that one?
Speaker 6 (20:05):
I had a trifecta of just some awful stats, and
that was one of them. I haven't completed a downfield
pass in thirty six days to him?
Speaker 1 (20:12):
Do you know what? Mike Tomlins never had a losing season.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
That can't be right. I think you're aware of that stat, right. However,
how long is the season tom seventeen games? What's Mike
Tomlins record over the last seventeen games?
Speaker 2 (20:25):
Oh? Is he?
Speaker 6 (20:27):
I say this one six? I didn't say this that yesterday,
but I saw that.
Speaker 3 (20:31):
Yeah, here's a real one that I actually find very interesting.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
One No.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
One is the number of rushing games over one hundred
yards for Lamar Jackson since the start of last season.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
Since the start of last season.
Speaker 6 (20:45):
Now, that is interesting because we all know he's playing
hurt right now and that's why he's not running as much.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
He had one hundred yards against the Chiefs. He hasn't
one hundred yard day running since then. He's eighty one
against the Steelers.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
He was effective as hell as around our last.
Speaker 3 (20:57):
I felt like he was running with more of a
purpose last year. And I'll give you one more zero
for one. That would be match Son from half court
at the University of Kentucky. Oh my god, I did
see that. Did you see him that close?
Speaker 1 (21:09):
Though? It was really close? Sailed ten k? Yes, come on,
Williamson Junior.
Speaker 3 (21:14):
So that's not just ten k that matt Son would
have had at the University of Kentucky.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
That's ten k that MATC doesn't.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
Have to pay to the University of kentuckuition, right, and
that would have been beers for us at Park Social.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
That didn't happen, all right, So we had big news.
Speaker 8 (21:30):
Huh.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
I have once that for you too.
Speaker 6 (21:31):
It's not everybody's seen it, but the Mike Tomlin has
now gone sixty two straight games with seven or fewer
points in the first quarter. If you include the playoff games,
that's sixty four. That's so hard to believe. Like put
that on his gravestone. You think you'd get ten accidentally,
you'd think you'd get nine just off the grace of
Boswell trotting out there and kicking a few field goals.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
Yeah, I mean like you you might get a long
kick return and then get a field goal in a
three and out, then have a real drive. Or you
might score a touchdown and then TJ can it's a
strip sack and you get a field goal in advantageous
field position.
Speaker 6 (22:04):
But no, no, I like how Warren Sharp has added
the longest streak by any head coach before they were
fired in NFL history. It's just the longest streak by
any head coach in NFL history, but the longest fired.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
Yeah with Tom on at this point. But I understand
we're breaking news. You told me about Adam Schefter is now.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
Oh that's right.
Speaker 3 (22:22):
I forgot about my own breaking news. He's streaming us
right now. He has said, you know what, those guys
in Pittsburgh, they're onto something. I've got to add fuel
to the Roethlisberger Penn State fire.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
Fifteen minutes ago.
Speaker 3 (22:32):
Another Trip employee speaking something into existence, Tom.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
What's going on?
Speaker 6 (22:37):
Fifteen minutes ago from the big dog himself, Adam Schefter,
Roethlisberger suggested on his Football and with Ben Roethlisberger podcast
that Mike Tomlin is a good fit for the vacant
Penn State job. Gasoline meet the fire there is now
blasted out to how many people to follow, Schefter, It's
got to be close to it's eleven point three million people.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
This is now news.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
I bet you this pops up on the ESPN homepage,
you know that little running tap of headlines.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
I bet you.
Speaker 6 (23:01):
Roethlisbergers suggests Tomlin fit at Penn State. You got asked him.
I mean, everything is leading to you.
Speaker 3 (23:06):
Oh my god, Tomlin is going to be like Ai
superimposed into Beaver Stadium at the white out.
Speaker 6 (23:14):
It's already on ESPN's Headlight's the second headline on the page.
Amid Tomlin angst big Ben floats Penn State job.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
Yes, Yes, the Power of Trip's suggestion again. Thank you
Seth Wrobo for putting it into the ether. All right,
we got distracted. Should we come back because we're low
on time. Let's come back with us? So we gotta
let the Asante Samuel ripping dk Metcalf thing breathe. We
didn't start the fire. Screw you, Billy Joel. We did
(23:43):
start the fire.
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Speaker 3 (24:30):
Tom In the last five minutes, has anybody else from
our paper spoken anything in New existence.
Speaker 6 (24:35):
Now, nothing's happened. You haven't won that lottery. What were
some of the other cool things he said at the
beginning of the show, Brooklyn.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
Decker sliding into my Dmshow she's like she's had a
second Brooklyn Decker, Yeah, like a second coming, right.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
I don't know. I think she's on a show now,
you know.
Speaker 6 (24:49):
I think her husband, Andy Roddick, is in that movie
about pickleball that they're making with Ben Stiller.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
I think that's true. I think he's in it.
Speaker 6 (24:56):
As as a feature that she should be in it. Yes,
she has to be, just even in the back on
cheering him on Super Nice. He met Brooklyn?
Speaker 3 (25:04):
Yeah, I met her at the Super Bowl between the
Giants and the Patriots, the second time the Giants beat
him in Indy.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
I met her on Super Bowl Media Day. I bet
she was pretty nice. Yeah, those were the days, all right.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
So I don't want to get further along because we've
teased this twice now and it's time to get there.
Here is Asante Samuel's dad, new stealer Asante Samuel.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
Dad has a podcast. I don't know who.
Speaker 3 (25:30):
Dad does the podcast with some other guy kind of
like Spence and but not like Spence, but some other guy.
He does this podcast with Sante's dad here, former NFL cornerback,
blaming Aaron Rodgers for how things.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
Have gone wrong in Pittsburgh.
Speaker 8 (25:49):
I think it's about time for Aaron Rodgers old self
to to go ahead and hoping someone's boot and start
his broadcasting career. When I say old though, I mean
old football year. Time for old man quick is to
give it up. Are you used to seeing stats like
this from Aaron Rodgers ten for twenty one, one hundred
(26:10):
and seventeen yards pass in total, no touchdowns, And then
we can't even put a DK Metcalf up here because
he's an impact.
Speaker 3 (26:21):
Yeah, and that's where it gets good. By the way,
Aaron Rodgers and broadcasting, Oh that'd be bad.
Speaker 6 (26:26):
He's hosting Jeopardy. I thought I thought that was always
the parachute or did he miss that? They just got
to think Jennings because with Rogers we don't need Ken Jennings.
He would just debate all the facts that are up there.
This is wrong. This eight hundred point answer is wrong.
I do not reward you the points.
Speaker 3 (26:42):
This is where Sante goes after Dk. You're starting to
go down that path, and once he went down that path,
he did not stop.
Speaker 8 (26:49):
He is most of the problem. Yet the end of
the day, Aaron Rodgers needs someone to throw too.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
He used to have an.
Speaker 8 (26:54):
Elite sy was decade suddenly get open. Like I said before,
DK Metcalf just can't from that for Aaron Rodgs. Aaron
and DK Metcalf is the reason Aaron Rodgers is looking
so because he keeps trying to throw DK metcalfter football
and he is not even getting an ounce of separation,
(27:16):
especially when he's going against press copy.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
And as much as.
Speaker 8 (27:19):
Daron Rodgers still wants to win, man, it just doesn't
have the talent that receiver to make things happen. I
know it has to be very frustrating for Aaron Rodgers
dealing with a trying to get the football the DK.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
Metcalf he does now Adam feeling.
Speaker 6 (27:36):
The answer solves the problems of all the offense. Hey,
happy forty second birthday, Aaron. Here's a thirty five year
old wide receiver for you. Meanwhile, and VS is like,
what what because Steeling's on the roster right Like, I
don't think this is a practice squad mcgun. I think
he's gonna play on Sunday Baltimore unless he's inactive.
Speaker 3 (27:52):
So do you think he's right on that, because don't
some of the advanced analytics kind of tell a different
story about DK that he actually is getting open more
than our eyes are telling us.
Speaker 6 (28:01):
I think DK Metcalf is to blame for his shortcomings,
for sure, But I also think that it's ignorant to
ignore the fact that there's literally nothing else in the
Steelers passing game that could take even an ounce of
attention away from him. And Matt Williamson said it a
thousand times probably on our Wednesday show. If you ever
show up to the Wednesday show on this show when
(28:23):
he's talked to you, like, DK's not this like true,
true number one wide receiver where you can double, triple,
quadruple and he's still gonna get eight catches for one
hundred yards. He's on that tier below that. So if
you have nothing else that worries teams, then like what
can you expect DK to.
Speaker 3 (28:38):
It's also pretty easy to cover DK Metcalf or any
other wide receiver when you know that they're not going
to run into the middle of the field.
Speaker 6 (28:45):
That's true, Like the sideline is the secondary defender, and
they're as an offense going towards it willingly, You're like,
thank you. Usually I have to bump you out there
to run up down the sidelines.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
You just want to do that.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
Here's a little bit more from Samuel on why he
thinks DK stinks biggest.
Speaker 8 (29:04):
D Matcalf is big and strong as he is. It's
like the basketball players. I don't know how many of
you all play basketball, right you're playing middle school ball
or high school ball. You have, but there's always that
one six foot nine guard, six foot nine to four
that wants to come play guard with the six foot
two players. And that's the problem with DK Matcalf, big
(29:28):
and strong as he is, he tries to play fall
for next football, for next football, at the line of scrimmage,
thinking his bast twitch muscles can shake DB's at the
line of scrimmage, when.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
He should be playing physical.
Speaker 8 (29:42):
As possible, like Michael Irvan, like the physical receivers to
get off the line of scrimmags.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
He should be.
Speaker 8 (29:48):
Making contact and throwing man handling DB's.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
Left and right.
Speaker 8 (29:52):
But instead he thinks he has the agility and the
quickness to get open suddenly, and he doesn't that's the
problem with and they Aaron Rodgers continue to try to
look for him. He just makes everything look terrible and
oh man played and outdated and everything goes No.
Speaker 3 (30:13):
I think Arthur Smith has something to do with that too.
But a couple of things there to what he just said.
First of all, where did a Sante Samuel senior grow up?
That they got six foot nine kids in middle school
basketball and they're trying to play guard and they're trying
to be the point guard. See now there, he does
have a point because that guy. Everybody has played basketball
with that guy. He's right about that. Where you're playing
(30:35):
pick up basketball and it's short guys like you and
me who are picking teams and something. Some big guy
walks in the court, like I got that guy first,
and all he does is stand outside and shoot threes
and miss him. I could do that and you could
get the rebounds and we can stay on the court
all day. Let me miss the threes and you can
rebound him and put it back. No, the big guy
always has to stand outside and shoot.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
The three used to drive me crazy. Why not just
pick up anymore? Buddy?
Speaker 6 (30:59):
I mean, watch a call basketball game, Watch an NBA game.
I mean the bigs are outside the perimeter plays. They
want to shoot the threes. He's so right about that comparison.
When it comes to DK though, that should be the
number one combat catching wide receiver in the NFL. And
it said he's good, so soft at it, I mean
soft as hell at it. It's easy for defensive backs
to get him off of his game. When it comes
(31:20):
to the combat catch.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
You can't.
Speaker 6 (31:22):
You can't trust him, And honestly, I think Rogers knows
that because he kind of throws to the other receivers
and the tight ends more for those combat catches than
he does DK and Rudolph. It was a terrible pass
when he overthrew Mount Washington or when he that was
a bad pass two yes, yes, but I'm bad passes
skipped it to DK the Bears. One is what I
was thinking of when na Sean Wright made the great interception.
(31:44):
Dam was like falling backwards out of bounds. Just tackle right,
do anything, get a flag, it doesn't matter, do something.
So he's so spot on a Sante Samuel as far
as that's concerned. In that comparison, he just plays so small.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
All right, we come back.
Speaker 3 (31:59):
We got to try on the way that at the
top of the hour, we'll get back into Steelers conversation,
specifically Mike Tomlin conversation. We love that to open up
the three o'clock hour. Mike to course in the three
o'clock hour as well. This is one of five nine
the X Listen to the X.
Speaker 1 (32:13):
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Speaker 3 (32:36):
Cloud to the Trifected sponsored by Danny's Pizza and Hogy's
Pittsburgh's original oven baked Hogy since nineteen sixty Route eighty
eight in Bethel Park. Tim and for Mark today, Tom,
what is the trifector for today?
Speaker 6 (32:49):
For today's Trifecta, Tim, We're gonna go with Pittsburgher's who
are more deserving of a statue than Mike Tomlin Since
Ben Roethlisberger declared that we should build one for Mike
t to kind of I guess was that Ben's way
of saying, we'll ease the blow of.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
Moving on from him, like kind of like, hey.
Speaker 3 (33:03):
We'll give you this statue if you just get the
hell out of here and go to Happy Valley. I
think there's a little something to that. Yes, bribing with statues.
Speaker 1 (33:11):
I love it.
Speaker 6 (33:12):
Number three on my list of a Pittsburgh that deserves
a statue more. I'm gonna go with saxophone guy and
you gotta put that statue, you know, right there on
one of his perches on the Clemeny Bridge.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
It'd be perfect. Number two, I'm gonna go with Sid.
Speaker 6 (33:26):
And then number one, I'm gonna go with the guy
at P and C Park, the usher who beat that
fan with his belt this year. That would be the
coolest statue ever, don't you think like if you could
get like the belt kind of mid like whack whack,
that'd be awesome.
Speaker 3 (33:39):
Well, let's compare Sid the merits of Sid to those
other two fine representatives that you just advanced.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
Sid has been known.
Speaker 3 (33:46):
To whack a flyer in the calf from time to time,
slash and get away with it, And he taught Blake
Lozat that too.
Speaker 1 (33:53):
Did you see what he did? Yes?
Speaker 3 (33:55):
I did see that. To Hathaway, that was beautiful, real
good move. That was Sid inspired. I'm sure still not
the guy with the belt, though, I think I'm with
you on this one. And Saxophone Guy, sure there was
a place, There was a time, although I think there's
somebody threatening Saxophone.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
Guy's place in the Pittsburgh lexicon. Are you aware of this?
Speaker 3 (34:15):
Like freestyle rapper who's at all the games and all
the venues?
Speaker 1 (34:19):
Now, No, I'm not.
Speaker 6 (34:20):
This is like a modern twist on saxophone guys sort of.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (34:24):
I mean like I was unaware of him, and apparently
I was late to the party. Other people know who
he is, know about him. He's got his own YouTube channel.
I just, for the life of me, don't know his name.
But I was crutching along after I had my surgery
for one of the early Penguin games, and I was
going down to the media entrance from where we parked,
(34:44):
and he was rapping on the corner, like, you know,
a stone's throwaway from Saxophone Guy, and he sees me
crutching towards him, and he breaks his freestyle with you know,
stays in rhythm and somehow makes up a rhyme about
me crutching by him.
Speaker 1 (35:04):
I was incredibly impressed. And then I saw him.
Speaker 3 (35:06):
Again a few weeks later as I was leaving and
I wasn't on crutches anymore by this point. As I
was leaving a Steeler game, he was rapping at somebody
else and just immediately put them into a rhyme without
missing a beat. This guy's got skills. Man, I'm impressed.
Speaker 6 (35:21):
And you're telling me that he was setting up shop
like right down the street from Saxophone Guy's turf Like,
this is a turf war happening right now.
Speaker 1 (35:28):
It could be now, I could see them combining forces.
Speaker 6 (35:31):
Well, I will say this about Saxophone Guy, even though
I gave him a statue here on my trifecta Saxophone
Guy can be bought to a disgusting degree. Case in point,
you throw some nickels in there, you say, play the
Notre Dame fight song, Play you know, country Roads, West
Virginia Town. He'll indulge that, And I think it's a
little disgusting, to be honest with you.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
The country roads thing.
Speaker 3 (35:49):
Have you noticed how crazy the fans go for country
roads in every European venue that the NFL plays, the
Germans especially well, I sure did too.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
Did you hear him? It is a good song, right
to be fair? Is it that good?
Speaker 8 (36:04):
Though?
Speaker 3 (36:05):
Whenever I've been in Europe, which is not a lot,
but I've been to England, I've been to Ireland, and
I've been to Italy. Wagonwheel and freaking country roads any bar, anytime.
And it's not just the Americans, and it's not just
for the Americans.
Speaker 1 (36:21):
They love it over there. It's nuts. I don't get it.
I don't understand it. Are they making fun of us?
Is it like a sly way to make fun of us?
Speaker 3 (36:27):
Like?
Speaker 6 (36:27):
Look at how stupid these songs are? It might be
these great Americana songs.
Speaker 3 (36:32):
Well, speaking of country roads, how about the kid who
flipped his commitment.
Speaker 6 (36:37):
A siege for Cherry Yes, going to West Virginia, Rich Rod.
I mean they had to pay him a lot, right, do.
Speaker 3 (36:42):
You feel like you've been turned upon because you were
supposed to turn away from Penn State and turn to
pitt Wasn't that the belief?
Speaker 6 (36:47):
I thought he was going to turn away from Penn
State and go right to Blacksburg, Virginia, well, I thought
a little bit surprised that he's at West Virginia. My
focus right now is a pittfan. Tam is keeping Mason
and keeping Turner. The backfield needs to stay intact. And
that's kind of like, don't you think that this day
has lost all its time?
Speaker 8 (37:03):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (37:04):
I was just gonna say, the high school recruit they
walked me right into it, cares about this day.
Speaker 1 (37:08):
I love that no one cares about it.
Speaker 3 (37:10):
I hated National Letter of Intent Day, I hated National
Signing Day, despised it.
Speaker 1 (37:16):
Oh my god, Like I still I don't.
Speaker 3 (37:19):
Have to talk to Ice about this when Seis comes on,
because I think Seiss was out there with me for
the Terrell Prior Day, Oh my god, the Terrell Prior
Day that turned into a Terrell Prior week and Anthony
Morelli over out at Penhills.
Speaker 1 (37:32):
Like, I just hated covering those signing days.
Speaker 3 (37:35):
And the thing about it now is it just doesn't
matter because they flipped their commitments.
Speaker 1 (37:39):
They arrive on campus and they're gone in a year.
Especially quarterbacks.
Speaker 3 (37:44):
You know, quarterbacks are the big fish that always land
and if they don't start out of the gate, then
they transfer or they announced their plans to transfer eight
games into the season. It doesn't matter anymore. I love
that what college football has become has watered down National
letter of intent day. If there is a residue that
I like about what has become of college football, it's this.
Speaker 6 (38:05):
Yeah, I mean, it just doesn't matter anymore because like
these kids, you know, yeah, you want to get good
high school recruits, but it's about keeping your team intact
once you have them, and you want to find talent
in the portal more than you want to find high
school kaus, Cause, say four star, five star recruits from
high school, Yeah, they'll probably be pretty good players, But
I'm sure these coaches are much more interested in the
(38:26):
proven commodities that you know, they've seen play at a
college level already for a season or two and know, hey,
they can handle this. Maybe they deserve a step up
from a group of five to a power four real quick.
Speaker 3 (38:39):
Have you ever feat conspiracy theory floated by Todd McShay
about why Penn State doesn't have a coach yet, No,
because this Jimmy Sexton thing.
Speaker 1 (38:46):
No, because Jimmy Sexton is sort.
Speaker 3 (38:49):
Of like the power broker agent for college coaches, all right,
He's got like every coach under his thumb, and Franklin's
one of his guys, and he is deliberately getting expensive
contracts for coaches to stay in their current positions so
they don't go to Penn State because he's mad at
Penn State. That's the theory that's being advanced, which if
(39:11):
it's true, I love I love a good petty Jimmy
Sexton two turning his sites towards Penn State. I mean,
it's hard for me to say this and not sound
like such a biased douche to be honest with you,
because I hate Penn State and I'm a Pit fan.
Speaker 1 (39:27):
But they completely nuked that program, right Tim.
Speaker 3 (39:29):
I mean, like, I know it's really in the immediacy
of it, and sure, I guess they can turn it around,
but like they're not going to reach the heights that
Franklin had them at, and they were pretty good heights.
Speaker 1 (39:37):
They were in the semi finals last year.
Speaker 3 (39:40):
What if it is pitt versus Penn State in the
pin Strape Bowl, would Penn State go?
Speaker 6 (39:46):
That's a good question. Most of that roster is going
to hit the portal and probably go to Virginia Tech.
Wouldn't you imagine.
Speaker 3 (39:52):
Potentially, like, how about finally getting Pitt and Penn State
in a bowl game? And it could mean absolute crap.
Speaker 6 (39:58):
As long as Mason and there, that's all we need.
We can just play with those two on the field.
I think we'd beat them.
Speaker 1 (40:04):
In thirty seconds.
Speaker 3 (40:05):
One very important person did not hear the chance of fire, Tomlin.
We'll get into that next. For the three o'clock hour,
Tim Benzon for Mark Madden one of five, nine the X.
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