December 5, 2025 • 35 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's time to bring on Tommy Radio. Tom It went
from three to zil to three to three. And the
Penguind certainly have blown leads this year, not least memorably
that horrible disaster Toronto a few weeks back. But Marcott
untied it and Jerry held it. It feels like a
big win, even though it's still only early December.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Oh, it feels like a huge win. Mark.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
I mean, those points spend the same still, even though
it is early December. And that's a big time team
that's going to be in the playoffs. Not sure if
they can make the run to the Stanley Cup as
old as the Lightning are, but they're going to be
in the playoffs. And I know Vasilevsky wasn't a net
so it wasn't like they were exactly at full strength.
But I'm not gonna take anything away from what the
Pens did in that game. And I know they were
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up three to zero and blew that lead. But I
don't think Jari, like you know, was terrible in the
process of blowing that lead, you know what I mean,
Like he was under siege all night, Mark forty shots.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
Well, he was brilliant in the first period, no doubt.
I don't think he was great down the stretch. I
thought the goal that got called back he should have
stopped its sailed right into the center of the net.
But it didn't count, and Tampa was missing headman. They're
missing bradon point. Like you said, Basilevsky nodding goal.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
But that's okay.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
That like you said, the points all spend and I'm
not sure Tampa's going to be in.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
The playoffs now.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
I look at every team in that conference in the East,
and I don't know who's going to make it, who's not.
It's such a jam packed standings, and I'm not sure
any teams that great.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
Yeah, I mean, Tampa is in first place in the
Atlantic right now, but Toronto, who was well out of
a playoffs but not well out of a playoff spot,
but out of one's just five points back of them.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Nobody's well out of a playoff spot. Not in the East.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
The loser points skews it horribly, and this year more
so than ever.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
Yeah, no one in the East is running away with anything,
So yeah, sure, maybe Tampa can fall out of the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
The power play is just a machine. Mark two for
four again.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
Last night and Tampa Bay had the number one PK
in the NHL heading into that game. I think they
still do. So that was a good tester and they
came up aces on that. I mean, this power play,
I think we can start to think as far as
having consistency and lasting for the entire season. Maybe not
number one in the league, but it should stay in
the entire Season's.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
A bit of a reach.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
I mean, it will happen almost January, ups and Dons,
and I do worry that Kendall doesn't stay on the
top power play when Raquel's back from injury. I think
that'll be just an an automatic mechanism for for MWS
to put Raquel out there and for the veterans to
want it.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Oh that's a legitimate worry that I'm having too.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
And it feels like that MUSE has done a good
job of avoiding that veteran thing, but not completely so far.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
And Raquel is a tough one to just say, hey,
you're wrong pp. Two.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
But PP two is a great spout to be And
you play with Coven and you play with Littang like
it's not devoid of talent, then.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Well and Kindle's their best power play. I don't care
if he's eighteen. I don't care if he's a rookie.
I don't care if he could be back in juniors.
He understands the power play better than Sidney Crosby up
Guinny Malkin do better than Carlson does.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
Absolutely benefits the team there, and again it benefits the
team to have someone like Raquel on their second you
know the second unit's going to have to play too.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
Do we trust Jari yet, I'm not sure I ever will.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
I'm kind of in the same boat. I'm not sure
if I'll ever be able to completely trust him. But
he's really doing a good job of winning me over
so far. There's still is that kind of leakiness to
him somewhat, but he's on point and he seems to
be at the top of his crease nine times out
of ten.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Now, Mark, that caught a lot of confidence with him.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
I do trust Maulk and he took a dumb offensive
his own penalty that thankfully Tampa didn't stick in the net.
But those two finishes were clean as a whistle. And
while I think it's a crime that Rush is not
in the Olympics, I think that two weeks off for
him to regenerate when the other players will be at
the Olympics will be a godsend to.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
Him, no question, And I'm honestly surprised he hasn't faded
is really at all this season. I mean maybe a
little bit from the hot start that he had, especially
scoring wise, but he's been absolutely a surprise for.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
Me this year to be playing at this level, have.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
A dominant game like he did in Tampa Bay, a
vintage performing. I mean, the steal in the game winning
goal was just it was awesome. Him tapping the stick,
you know what I mean, trying to get on the
horse to get to the puck.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Vintage stuff. So I'm excited for Gino Mark.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
I hate to do this, but if he could just
exit after this season, Penn's make the playoffs. He has
a year like this, What a beautiful last year, right, Like,
what a perfect send off it would be.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
Yeah, that's just not gonna happen.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
He's gonna want to stay and they're going to accommodate him.
How about Boco fought Andre the Giant chopped him down
some six' nine.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
Guy it felt almost. Biblical it was. Awesome you gotta
Keep oco on the, team, RIGHT i MEAN i don't.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
Need to dress him every, game but when the situation,
calls Like philly Is philly And tampa has a couple
of rough, Customers.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
Yeah then but keep him up here at THE nhl. Level,
YES i would, correct as you often, say and you're
saying again often now because Of. Boco doesn't matter who
your wings are on the fourth, line as long as
they can do something little else he'll.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
Avoid and, YEAH i got no problem With boco AND
i hate stagey fights like, that but at least he.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
Won and he's also not a, goon you know WHAT i,
Mean like he can actually play some, hockey some.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
Hockey, YEAH i wouldn't go. Overboard did you think the
time goal was going to? Count because that was a hand,
passed but very marginally it wasn't directed per.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
Se i'll be, honest if it's my, call elect the goal.
STACK i didn't think it was gonna get. OVERTURNED i
thought The penguins were going to get a bad break
there and that the game was going to go to.
Overtime so, hey it's all, right it's okay to be.
Lucky sometimes it's okay to get a call from the,
refs but they got a call.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
There musa's impact is.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
Undeniable you look at the special teams excelling that's, coaching
and you look at the kids And carlson And graves
really finding their. Games there's so much that he's changed
That sullivan just would not have sell of, them would
have just kept doing it by Rote.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
And is it perhaps even more impressive of the balance
he's been able to strike with everything that you just
said and the young, kids and also kind of ingratiating
himself with all time greats as far as the sport is.
CONCERNED i Mean hall of, Famers gino. SAID i, said
top five player of all. Time they seemed to love
playing for him, Too like he seemed to have no
problem winning those guys. Over AND i remember that was
a big talking. Point people are, like, well what's this
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inexperienced coach gonna do with a guy Like Sidney. Crosby
if sid had his, Way sully would still be. There
BUT i think sid is happy with what's going on right.
Now And i'm sure sid has looked down At New
york and noticed things aren't going swimmingly With sullivan.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
There, Yeah, sid if he had his, Way sully would
still be, there and that's now knock ON. Mws that's
Just sid's desire to maintain status.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Quo, well bod he didn't have his.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
WAY i think that the most amazing THING mwse has
done might be the resurrection Of. Carlson, now a lot
of that is due to this being An olympic year
and he wants to make sure That sweden puts him
in a prominent. Position so he's showing his best stuff out.
There but why ask? Why And carlson has made some.
Comments carlson's made a couple of comments that have been
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vaguely supportive Of Dan mues and ordinarily that would be
a big deal except he he had nothing but veiled
criticism Of sullivan in the, past including talking this.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
YEAR i think there's definitely something the coaching change with,
him but the main driving force is That olympic. Thing
being left off the preliminary roster got a little chapped at.
That he's definitely gonna Make Team sweeten now with the
season that he's, HAVING i, mean there's no question ABOUT
i don't think there was any question in any of
the first Correct they should have probably put him on
the prelam. Roster but whatever works For, Carlson i'm glad it's.
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Working AND i don't think that this is something where
like we'd come out of The olympics and The penguins
in the mix of this playoff race and he'd be, like,
WELL i got My olympic thing NOW i can kind
of just go back to. Coasting LIKE i think he'll
lock in for the playoff. Push, YEAH i think he'll
go back to. Coasting you think so of this? Year next,
YEAR i could see, It but for the next three
months after The, olympics we'll.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
See, okay we'll. SEE i have a lot more doubt
about it than you. DO i love the kid, line
and boy was coved and happy to finally.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
Score he was one happy kid needed it.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
Too wouldn't be surprised if he Scores sunday In dallas,
too because he's been playing so well and has deserved
more than just that one goal that he. Has SO
i think floodgates could be opening. HERE i think the
kid line, again Like kendall's gonna set him. UP i
think they're gonna start to develop some really nice chemistry
the more they play.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
Together, well the idea of the kid, line which which
OBVIOUSLY i came up with months.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
Ago he did two weeks. Ago, anyway NO i. Did
now the kids don't worry about letting don. Veterans they
worry about trying to outperform each. Other and there's still
pressure to, excel but it's a, DIFFERENT i would.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
Say more positive kind of.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
Pressure AND i think we see that those those kids
look like they're having a ton of. Fun and, McGroarty,
well he's came up and he's just knocked it dead so.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
Far, absolutely and if, so this can continue to keep
happening and that line solidifies. Itself Mark raquel comes, Back
brassers comes, back like things really kind of start to
fall into place.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
Nicely no one else worries me that when everybody's, back
coyven and starts getting scratched for Who i'm just, saying
Because brassers goes right to The geno Line HAZY i
forgot About hazy fourth line wing right well back to you're,
right because no force could make me rip the kids
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line apart until they prove they can't play. Together it's
right now they're certainly proving they. Can we'll get around
to talking The steelers sooner later we think we have
a bucket list guest to two. Thirty if he doesn't,
call will act like it never. Happened but right NOW
i am brimming with. Anticipation one five to, nine THE x, nine.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
THE X the world's best male ski racers are racing
in The United states and this.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
Semix and now it's time to turn our attention to
The steelers And ravens game On sunday At baltimore two
six and six teams fighting tooth and, nail not Unlike,
dawkin for the right to fool themselves for at least a.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
Week, tom what you're over under For Derek henry rushing?
Speaker 1 (09:52):
Yards Bet parks has the figure set at eighty point.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
Five, OH i would smash the over on.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
That eighty point five is a pretty high over under
for them to, said BUT i would still fly over.
It so he averages one hundred and thirty seven plus
yards in the three games he's played against The steelers
as A raven and that's including that first one that
yous you noted yesterday was like for sixty six yards
or something like.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
That, yeah sixty five and they stopped giving yards to. Carry.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
Yeah and then in the other two games he had
fifty three, carries so they were just pounding the rock with.
Him lamar's. HURT i didn't see the practice report yet
for The ravens. TODAY i don't know if he's going
to play or not in this. Game i'm assuming he. Will,
yeah but just he. Participate he did, Okay so he's
just extremely going to be limited. Again he's not going
to be as effective as he usually. Is they're going
to hand it off To henry thirty times as.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
Opposed To rogers and him being effective with of course
with the broken.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
Wrist But i'm just, saying With henry's, over, yeah he's
going to go for one hundred.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
Plus pittsburgh is not optimistic about The steelers at this.
Point do you Think baltimore is optimistic about The. RAVENS
i find myself wondering what they're saying when the show's down.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
There do you think that they're almost in a place
where you could Be it's almost more warranted to be
frustrated With harbaugh and how things are playing, out because
you're wasting a, guy you know WHAT i?
Speaker 2 (10:59):
Mean like The.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
STEELERS i don't want to sound Like i'm Excusing tomlin
because it's his fault that he hasn't found a guy.
Yet but they don't have that franchise quarterback to. Waste
tomlin did that With Ben roethlisberger in The Killer bee.
Era but that is so frustrating to See lamar if You're,
buffalo to See Josh allen and to see a coach
continue to fall. Short SO i bet it's bubbling over there.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
Too, yeah but you, Know ben got caught in The brady,
era and for him to win Two Super bowls, regardless
it's pretty impressive for both him and. FRANCHISE i think
With lamar he's caught in The Josh allen And Patrick mahomes.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
Era, yeah but they should have squeezed one out of
That Killer. Bee they were scoring like thirty forty points a.
Game their defense just sold them out so much on
what's scoring that many?
Speaker 2 (11:37):
Points you mean The? Steelers, yeah oh, no they were portly,
Coached that's What i'm. Saying.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
OKAY i actually feel more sympathy For lamar not having
gotten there in The mahomes And allen era THAN i
do in The Killer bees era.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
That they couldn't Get.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
Pet, well they did get Past, brady although they never
Beat brady in a playoff.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
Never to get to the Super. Bowl, yeah and. Win
they're Suit that's, Okay yeah. Whatever you can only beat
who's put in front of. You, Hey Josh Allen verry
might get his Super bowl this year without having to
go Through mahomes AND i bet you people will criticize
him for. That but that's. Fine he got his Super.
Bowl but, Yeah Lamar jackson in The ravens fan, BASE
i don't know if there's a little bit of a
pass being given because of how injured they are this.
Year there can't, be because they have wasted so much
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time with.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
HIM i feel like the only Way baltimore lose The
son is that they're dumb enough to not to pound
the ball With Derrick. HENRY i if he gets, hurt
even but like they could not smart. Themselves harball's as
dumb As tom When harbaugh. Could do they know that
we know, that we know that they?
Speaker 3 (12:30):
Know, yeah, Absolutely and they did that in the first
meeting between The steelers and The ravens that you. Reference
BUT i think that that was the wake up call
for him because they Got Derreck henry for a lot of. Reasons,
Mark BUT i think a main one, Was, hey we
can't really get past The steelers right.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
Now like they.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
Do whatever they do Against, lamar they do it pretty.
Well we need another punch that we can throw at.
Them let's get the best running back out there right.
Now they did, that and then they didn't use him
in that first, game AND i think they were, like
why did we even get him if you're gonna act
the same way that we always, did and when we
lose to The, Steelers, okay let's. Adjust and now we've
run it up on The steelers the past two. Times
it's been a double digit win each.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
Time isn't it.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
Nuts That rogers Isn't the receivers aren't on the same?
Page and it's week. Fourteen whose fault is That rogers talking?
Speaker 2 (13:10):
About?
Speaker 3 (13:11):
It got to put it on the, receivers, RIGHT i,
mean you got to keep up with a guy like.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
THAT i got to put it On Arthur smith, too
to not have the. RECEIVER i don't think.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
There's been a cohesive game plan since the Day rogers got.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
HERE i.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
Don't it's not nearly as fine, tuned consistent and rhythmic
AS i would. Expect and that's partly on the. Quarterback
and like you, said on the, receivers BUT i think
it's mostly On Arthur.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
SMITH i do also think That rogers does like to
find some shoots that he can pull when things go,
bad and this is something that he likes to.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
Do i'm not saying that it isn't.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
Happening, well if The steelers lose this, Week rogers could
be done quote unquote.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
Injured the risk is just too much. NOW i can't overcome.
It mason get in there for the stretch. Run, yeah
but it is three. BREAKS i, mean at least theyn't
have a good. Excuse, YEAH i think he has a
good excuse to not. Play he played Through. Pai, yeah
like last, Week i'd end. Up i'm pretty sure he
shouldn't have played last. Week this, week we'll, See, like
if he can't go under center this, week it's not
gonna be worth.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
It, again what kind.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
Of snaps do you expect that Of Thelanda getty help
court with the media for like. Forever if he plays
as much as he talked to the, media he'll Be
he'll be wide at number, one ahead Of.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
Metcalf it's a little surprising to me because although he
was a better player in his career THAN Mvs Valdez.
Scantling he's just as washed up As Voudas scantling, Is so,
like what's the difference? Here why DID mvs stay on
the practice? Squad But theling's going up to the media
and he's probably gonna get a hat On. Sunday, well,
YEAH i, mean there's no business like show. BUSINESS i
don't understand. It but feelin's don't have minimal. Impact he'll
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catch one, pass probably get a first. Down, well nobody
cares the time to get ready for the. Guest by
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Speaker 4 (14:40):
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Speaker 2 (14:57):
Is this season when you're in the mood for holiday Music?
Speaker 5 (15:04):
Halloween, yeah, Well, tom he pulled out right in front
of our faces.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
Too we, can't we. Can't we're not gonna say who
it potentially. Was but he only wanted to come on
into a plug and not an.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
Interview, yeah and that's just what it sounded so, weird,
Right it sounded like we were going into A Stone
Temple pilot song after.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
Yeah and to be, clear it wasn't a member Of
Stone Tumble. Pilots but, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
So once again all the laughter has turned to.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
Sorrow but we did get THE Usa World cup. Draw
they're Playing paraguay In australia and the winner of a
playoff In uefa Between, Turkey, Romania slovaki And. Kosovo AND
i don't give a rats ask about none of, that
But i'm plotting to figure out what Games.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
I'm going to go. To at least a.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
GAME i think it'll Be scotland playing, somebody because they're
gonna play in relatively close Proximity, Atlanta, Boston, philly someplace like.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
That don't know for sure where.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
Yet, yeah and that would be such a great game
to go. TO i think you said they could Play, brazil, Right.
Scotland scotland's definitely Playing.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
Brazil that would be, Awesome but that'd also be the
tough one to get tickets.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
To you would rather see a bunch of other teams
before you'd See TEAM, usa.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
Right i'd rather see Like Andy robertson play For scotland
or play For, egypt Like scotland Play, Haiti, Uh, brazil and,
UH i forget the third somebody slightly, lesser but, uh
The brazil game will be really tough to get tickets.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
To are you a fan of how they've expanded this
so that you can Start there's there's too many many
teams in it, now even though you can get some
more of those players in, it like A robertson In
asala and A holland whose teams might not have made
the cut in previous.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
Year, NO i think it's supposed to be you, know
best on, best which is a, phrase but but they've
they've really dilute duoted it so.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
Much by the, way the third opponent Is.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
Morocco it's gonna Be scotland Versus haiti at Either boston
Or New. Jersey scotland Versus morocco would Either philadelphia Or
boston In scotland Versus brazil at Either miami Or.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
Atlanta atlanta would be a lot Of atlanta's a fun.
Savior been To, Atlanta, yeah, wwn great, city, Right i've never,
been but people tell me all the time like that's
one That i've never been to that you should think
about going. To it's a lot of. Fun so that'd be.
Cool miami's fun. Too they're going to a ton of great.
Cities like it's almost like you can't go wrong with
wherever you.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
Choose, NOW i want to get back to THE nfl
because we Had thursday night. Football cowboys amania has kind of.
Subsided they lost At detroit last. Night dallas is now
six six and. One, uh but there's still that hype
and conversation because The cowboys And steelers don't have to
be good for that, crap Isn't dallas kind of a
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more Hype western version of The steelers in terms of
the logo gets them.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
Over but they're not that.
Speaker 3 (17:58):
Good oh, yeah even more so THAN i, mean they
haven't even been to AN nfc championship game since what
nineteen ninety?
Speaker 2 (18:03):
Six fives better right, now don't you? Think right?
Speaker 3 (18:06):
Now AND i like their future a lot. More like
they got a star quarterback next. Year he's probably like
thirty thirty, one but he's fine in the prime for a.
Quarterback next. Year they're a team that you got to look.
For they'll Franchise george and he'll probably go, crazy but
they'll get him. Back and their defense is building to.
Something they got all those. Picks dallas has got a bright.
Future they just dug themselves too deep of a hole
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at the beginning of this. Year and it was great
last night to See George pickens just Go George pickens
right quit on a bunch of.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
Routes, well one last thing About.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
Dak it took me a long time to admit To
dak is an elite, quarterback and it maybe took him
a long time to actually get to that. Level and
one thing that helped is the lack of quarterbacks and
the league good Quarterback so that kind, of you, know
propped him up a little, bit maybe takes him a little.
Higher but he's definitely a top ten and maybe a
top five, quarterback top.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
TEN i don't know if we can call him elite
yet though the playoff success has got to. Come he
always just looks terrible when the playoffs come. Around and
he's a great regular season, BORDERLINE mvp regular season. Quarterback
give me a season or two where that carries over
into the. Postseason Get dallas to the ACTUAL nfc championship
game for a, change then you're.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
Elite like you, Said pickens dogged it on some roots
and had a bad Night Richard sherman in commentary buried,
him And i'm like not.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
SURPRISED i, mean there he. Is there's the guy we.
Speaker 5 (19:21):
Know.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
Now what you have to determine when you look At
George pickens if you want him on.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
Your team or, not is will the good outweigh the?
Speaker 1 (19:28):
Bad and early on In dallas it, has but early
on the good always does.
Speaker 3 (19:33):
Exactly AND i really wonder what went Into pickens just
completely acting the way he, did because that usually is
When pickens would go off national stage, game all the
attentions on, him big, opponent and he just completely quit
on everything And Ceedee lamb was out, Too SO i
wonder if that had anything to do with they got
hurt throughout the. Game they kind of had to look
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At pickens as like that number one. RECEIVER i don't,
know you just can never trust him. Completely but they're
going to give him a lot of, money whether it's
with that franchise tag and he goes nuts or they
give him an actual, Contract AND i really, question AND
i think it's very fair to question what kind of
player he's going to be once that bag secured and
he has those you, know two three, years fifty sixty
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million guaranteed in his.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
Pocket, WELL i still maintained that The steelers did the
right thing getting rid of, him and not just because
he is a ticking time, bomb but, because, uh they
just weren't ever gonna be able to get him the.
Ball they can't Get pickens the. Ball they've eliminated Friar
move from the. Game excuse, me A metcalf the? Ball
they they they've Excluded friarmove from the game. Plan what
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makes you think That Arthur smith could somehow find a
way to Serve pickens in addition To metcalf when he's
not gotten it To.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
METCALF i have no reason to believe.
Speaker 3 (20:51):
That that's why it's foolish for anybody to think thielan,
old washed up, ass is going to come in here
and do anything at, all because they don't know what
they're doing, offensively to have any kind of diverse set
of weaponry. Whatsoever All Arthur smith is doing right now
is throwing the running.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
Backs that's.
Speaker 3 (21:08):
It that's the only thing that he does that. Works
their most explosive players is the tandem Of gainwell And.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
Warn Arthur smith's just done a, terrible terrible job and
not let's be.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
Honest rogers has been bad.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
Too, yeah the FIELD i, overestimated you know how he
had played early because they started four and. One but
he's been, bad not not as. EXPECTED i do admire his, guile,
sure and certainly playing with three broken bones in his left,
wrist but he's not been the quarterback they expected it to. Be,
now whether you want, to you, know slide the blame
To Arthur smith because of. THAT i, mean that's one
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thing about The STEELERS i, Hate and there's so many
things about The STEELERS i. Hate no one ever seems
to have blame stick to. Them it's always somebody else's,
fault and that's by. Design that's why they always say
that they make decisions as a, group because that way
you can't blame.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
Nobody and you're already starting to see the blame get
shared with what's happening. Now there's people that are in
The rogers camp already and they're starting to bring that.
Up and then it's the, Classic, hey they didn't do
anything to build a roster for, him why don't they
already bring Up Omar?
Speaker 2 (22:10):
KHAN i, Mean jason McIntyre From, fox we get a
sound bite from.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
Him we're gonna play later talking about how why don't
you blame THE.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
Gm tomlin is THE. Gm tomin has final say on,
everything so they're all just spreading it.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
AROUND i hired a guy who's not really, qualified Which
Arthur kahn Isn't Omark Arthur conn the bastard son Of
Arthur smith And Omar.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
Khan boy could he f up a football?
Speaker 1 (22:30):
Team that's why they hired of Being conn An Omar,
khan a guy who's not really qualified Because Tom win's
gonna walk all over him and have final say on.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
Everything tomas football. Personnel just make sure my money's right.
Right just make sure That i'm not screwing things up
as far as the salary cap is. Concerned i'm not
really concerned about that. Stuff and make sure that you
know IF i want to make a trade FOR, dkmf we.
Can and we see the reporting up close and personal
in the moment when these things. Happen rogers waiting for his,
decision driven By Mike, TOMLIN Dk metcalf going to trade for,
him driven By Mike tomlin getting rid Of George, pickens
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pushed mainly By Mike. Tomlin it's all coming back To Mike,
Tomlin but you're, right they do try to spread that blame.
Around The steelers by design want that to, happen and
the national media obliges a.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
Lot And i'm. TIRED i just.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
Soau i'm tired of how no blame ever sticks with
anybody when it comes To. Steeers nobody's get tired. Of
there's never any pragmatism about what's.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
Wrong.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
Okay, Uh i'm the first person to really, Say, Okay
rogers isn't playing very good at. All LIKE i would
rate him A c plus up until THE la game
and since then A d. Minus, okay probably probably A
d plus overall in the. Year and you know what
else people won't. Say THE Tj wats clearly lost a.
Step Matt williamson said. It did you see him BURRY
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Tj watt through?
Speaker 2 (23:47):
Stats?
Speaker 3 (23:48):
Again this was earlier in the, week but he noted this.
STAT i guess it's a next gym thing called get off.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
That they track for. PLAYERS i thought that was like
A brasser.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
STAT i think it's that, too but this is in
the football world and it just basically, measures you, know
how fast you're getting off the.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
SNAP.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
Tj watts faded in every single year since twenty twenty
two point seventy, five two point seventy nine to point eight.
Three now he's getting off at a point eight seven.
RATE i mean that's almost like a zero point one second.
Difference AND i know it sounds. Small that's such a
big deal in THE, nfl especially for WHEN. Tj watt
doesn't have any move but speed rush to the outside
and then close on the. Quarterback every half second. Matters
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and that's.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
Another thing people won't talk, about how The steelers won't
tell him what he has to. Do he's dodging criticism
for sticking to his comfort zone even as his stats.
Shrink there's so much that's clearly bad about The steelers
that is by their choice that people just don't, acknowledge no.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
Question and we all off, season in the training camp build,
up we're, told, yeah we got to Move wa around.
More what even, said, yeah that's probably smart to move
me around. More that was just lip. Service that was
just so they could get.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
By all, accounts he just will not do.
Speaker 3 (24:53):
It, yeah But i'm saying lip service mainly by him
just to get by those training camp. Interviews say, yeah you,
know you're, RIGHT i should probably move around. Whatever i'm
glad that's. Done NOW i go back to my same
spot rushing this right tackle and it's just not working.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
Anymore let's say The steelers Lose, sunday missed the.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
Playoffs do you think the citizens are gonna get really
legitimately angry moving? Forward do you think they might do
something like ruin the draft AS i, SUGGEST i, mean
As i've talked. About, uh you do you think it
will get to a level we've not seen here in
quite some?
Speaker 3 (25:23):
Time?
Speaker 2 (25:24):
YEAH i THINK i do believe. THAT i also wonder
if they.
Speaker 3 (25:27):
Were it makes you believe that because you're already starting
to see it. Happen they're starting to see the cracks
a little bit with the fire tom on chance at the.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
Stadium let me tell you where it'll get reeled. In,
okay this is a ton of. Whissies, okay it's very.
Pusillanimous youit people out there and know What i'm talking, about, Though,
seriously you are you, Are You're you're THE p, word
no question about. That and you know where that'll show
up is when the draft comes. Round it'll be all.
Speaker 5 (25:51):
Here we, go, stealers here we got and flying waving
the tiles ON.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
Tv they won't ruin the.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
Draft they won't be mad enough to be mad.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Enough too much time will.
Speaker 3 (26:01):
Pass you, think, like if they do miss the playoffs
and it goes to crap at the end of the,
season even if the draft happened in the week after
they got eliminated from, playoffs they'd be out there going
it's a scared.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
Time it's a time that's its own. Bitch you're probably
right about. THAT i wonder if things this time does
have the guts to ruin the, draft.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
Would things be even worse if they somehow got to
nine and, eight WHICH i think that gets you the division,
Honestly but if they did get to nine and eight
and did it make the, playoffs so they could still
kind of prop up this non losing season thing and
just miss the, PLAYOFFS i think that would set people
off in a bad.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
Way you think that would that be worse than?
Speaker 1 (26:34):
Eight?
Speaker 3 (26:35):
NINE i think it. Would, ACTUALLY i think nine would
cost some, relief don't. YOU i do like there'd be
a sigh a little. Bit we'd never have to hear this.
Anymore nine and, eight keeping that streak, intact but still
having to watch as the eight seed not getting in
that would be the nuclear.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
Problem, TOM i can't believe the guests fell through and
it's not your. Fault it still, sucks, THOUGH i mean
SECRETLY i blame.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
YOU i know you. Do do you want to fire?
Me but you still need me for one more.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
SEGMENT i don't know who would get that that's the,
problem and we're not going to reveal who it. Is But,
tom just so with that, review no hints at, all.
Nothing how psyched WAS i for this? POSSIBILITY i would
say like a ten out of? Ten? Yeah, yeah this
guy would have stepped into top five guest territory of
all time unless he was.
Speaker 3 (27:13):
A, dick and it sounds like he never will from
what we were. Told i'm just so.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
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Speaker 5 (27:44):
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Speaker 1 (27:50):
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Tom i'm just bummed by our guests pulling. OUT i
might go to The North hills basketball game, tonight their season,
opener part of their annual Tip off tournament At North
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hill's eight.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
Pm though that's a late, Tip.
Speaker 3 (28:12):
Yeah really, Late AND i thought it was like a seven,
o'clock but you said that it's a, tournament so it
kind of pushes things back a little.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
BIT i think it's game two of the opening of the.
Speaker 3 (28:19):
Tournament traditionally got those seven pm, tips WHICH i think
are perfect for. Basketball out of there a little bit
before nine. Pm in high school it's.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
Perfect oh if it tips in, seven you're out of
there a little before eight.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
Thirty it's in high. School you're, Right those games just fly.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
By speaking of, basketball how About Oklahoma city's twenty one
and one in THE. Nba, No, NO i don't follow
THE nba, much BUT i, mean what's the record seventy
three wins in the.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
Season The. Warriors they broke The jordan bulls mark to seventy.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
Two, yeah but they didn't win it that, year so
it's a little weird Because lebron beat them in the,
finals where The jordan team actually won the. Championship so
a little asterisk on seventy. Three but, yeah that's the
regular season. Record they are on pace to win like
seventy nine right. NOW i can't even name one player
on the team Besides. Sga i'm not even sure what
his name. IS i just call HIM. Sga, yeah that's
a good. POINT i mean there's some people THAT i,
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know Like Jalen williams is on that, team and that's
really it. THOUGH i Mean i'm trying to think of
somebody that you would know AND i can't tell. You
and they were in the finals and PLAYING tj last.
YEAR i mean like you were actually watching the, game
watched the, game AND i still can't remember. Nobody sga
is all you need to, KNOW, mvp and he is the.
Engine what's amazing about The thunder is they're twenty one and,
one they have THE, mvp they're the favorite to win
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it again this. Year they have a top five draft
pick next, year like. Guaranteed they have so many first
round picks still stockpiled, up this organization might be in
the best spot of a.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
Say when they blew up the team a couple of years.
Speaker 3 (29:40):
Ago, yeah they Traded Paul george away and they traded Uh,
Russell westbrook, Away.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
Kevin it's a team. Team it's run the holes greater
than some of the. Parts, question the parts are.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
Considerable and this, year with like all these stars, out
Like Jason tatum's out of the year For, Boston uh
you got Of Chris halliburn not for the year For,
indiana it seems like clear sailing.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
For, them don't.
Speaker 3 (30:01):
IT i, mean even if they were, HEALTHY i think
it would kind of feel a clear sailing for.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
Them they're twenty one and one mark no one can beat.
Speaker 3 (30:07):
Them and even though those two stars are, OUT i,
mean there's still some really good teams in THE. Nba
lakers are good for no reason because Of, lebron which
is also. Funny he only scored like eight points last,
night which is. Hilarious it's the two white, Boys Luka
donchets And Austin reeves are lighting it up for The,
lakers And.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
Austin reeves is really.
Speaker 3 (30:23):
White we're forty four points last, night and he's wearing
a headband, now which almost makes him look even whiter.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
Somehow, now what do we got for the?
Speaker 3 (30:31):
Trifecta for today's TRIFECT i have a trifecta of stats
that have to do with The ravens rushing attack in
this game On sunday number. Three Lamar jackson last three
games has failed to get thirty yards. Rushing first time
in his career he's done. That he's running less ever
since the hamstring. Injury now he's dealing with an ankle.
Injury you almost don't have to worry about, him, Right,
like you can't completely say, that but that element of
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his game is almost a non factor in this. One
but the problem is you have to worry About Derek,
henry who is rushed for a hundred and thirty seven
yards in his three games against The. Steelers and if
you ditched that first game where he only had thirteen
carries for sixty six, yards still five yards per. Carriage,
Crazy he's like one hundred and sixty yard average as
far as what he does against The Pittsburgh.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
Steelers so he's a.
Speaker 3 (31:14):
Force but the biggest problem That i'm seeing here is
this is gonna be your fourth game Without Derek harmon On.
Sunday in the previous three, games you have given up
one hundred and eighty three yards on the ground to
the opposing team on, average on average three yards. Average
three games the game missed With, Harmon we'll think about.
It it was The jets game they got torched almost
two hundred, yards The bills game last, week and then
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it was That seahawks, game which was an improvement where
they only give up like one hundred and eleven to
The Seattle. Seahawks and you Got Derrick henry this week.
Too that's What i'm, saying so, like if you can Stop, henry.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
That's the.
Speaker 3 (31:47):
Traffic Number Three Lamar jackson three games has failed to
reach thirty yards rushing first time in his. Career number
Two Derrick henry versus The steelers one hundred and thirty
seven yards per game as A Baltimore. Raven and number
one When Derek harmon is out this, year The steelers
defense gives up one hundred and eighty three yards per
game on the.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
Ground we need a clearer coun off one T i
think that was all the, time all the.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
Time, okay one time a. Fluke i'm, sorry don't talk
back to. Me you Know i'm in a fragile mood
because the guest. Knows i'm flashing out too because of.
It it's an emotional time here at The Mark Madden. Show,
now now here's something that makes me not at all.
Speaker 1 (32:20):
Emotional H AND i should have got this uh on
the show, earlier EXCEPT i don't consider news at.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
All the pirates made a.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
Trade they Traded ovi a doo For we're told this
it's THIS mlb ready outfield. Prospect NOW i. CAN'T i
can barely spell his, name let alone pronounce.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
It but is this? Right Justin Nixon, Garcia.
Speaker 3 (32:40):
I've Heard justinson like you just kind of ignore THE
nyx and there have you heard his?
Speaker 2 (32:44):
Nickname? Though the PASSWORD i like. It it's not as
good as the, palindrome it's.
Speaker 3 (32:50):
Not BUT i like the passway At kateechae because his
name does look like a password that you would, have
like a default password that like a company would give
you when you just get like A Wi fi, router
like here's a bunch of letters just.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
Pushed. Ye, well never mind that they traded a guy
who was a legitimate back at the.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
End back then the Rotation Major league started with Ovid
O viedo and got this guy who, like here's this
guy reput raw power needs. Developed, okay, Yeah god knows
the powers are so good at developing. People he strikes
out a. Lot you don't, say but buck donation is.
Salivating there's an overreaction like there always.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
Is but but, like you know, what you know.
Speaker 1 (33:25):
What Noah house uh DMed me who we like and
he said that he thought they might get this kind
of return For, keller and they got it For. Oviedo
if this is all you're gonna get For, KELLER i,
mean it's gonna be a worse team next. Year and
this wasn't much return For. Oviedo do you.
Speaker 3 (33:41):
Think some teams Value oviedo more Than keller? Too Like
oviedo might have more of a future in some team's
eyes and more skill Than. Keller and he got a
little derailed because of the injury last, year but he
came back and, Looked, OKAY i wonder if there's some
teams that look At oviedo stuff and look at the
fact That keller is a bum in the second half
of basically every single season he's played in THE mlb and.
GO i don't know About Mitch. Keller maybe talk to
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me About Johann oviedo. INSTEAD i love That pirates fans
are hoisting this up as like The banner. Move this
has to be the fourth or fifth best move that
The pirates make this off. Season if you want to be,
serious name Again JUSTINSON i, think or maybe it Is
justinson then and you have to have the EXCELLENT i
want to go With Justin, Nixon Justin, Nixon, aroo get
A nixon in.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
THERE i like. It, yeah, YEAH i know a stripper Named.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
Nixon this back in my strip club, days not at
uh cheerleaders. Like she didn't look Like, nixon thank, god
but there was something about her that definitely reminded me Of.
Speaker 2 (34:35):
Nixon she had A richard vibe for, you huh.
Speaker 1 (34:39):
X i think maybe the way she she took my
money and didn't give me much in.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
Return just just Like. Nixon, Yeah i'm not Sure Nixon
nixon just. Lied it was That nixon with A y
and y x o N that seems more stripper. Stripper, no,
no N i x o N.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
It's spelled just like the. President and there was what
was really sexy about. Her she had no idea Who
President nixon. WAS i had to bring it up up
and she's, like is that. Yeah oh, Oh by the, Way,
TOM i just typed. IN i just typed in this
guy's name the password into my. Computer it unlocks seventy
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Speaker 3 (35:10):
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It's time to bring on Tommy Radio. Tom It went
from three to zil to three to three. And the
Penguind certainly have blown leads this year, not least memorably
that horrible disaster Toronto a few weeks back. But Marcott
untied it and Jerry held it. It feels like a
big win, even though it's still only early December.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Oh, it feels like a huge win. Mark.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
I mean, those points spend the same still, even though
it is early December. And that's a big time team
that's going to be in the playoffs. Not sure if
they can make the run to the Stanley Cup as
old as the Lightning are, but they're going to be
in the playoffs. And I know Vasilevsky wasn't a net
so it wasn't like they were exactly at full strength.
But I'm not gonna take anything away from what the
Pens did in that game. And I know they were
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up three to zero and blew that lead. But I
don't think Jari, like you know, was terrible in the
process of blowing that lead, you know what I mean,
Like he was under siege all night, Mark forty shots.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
Well, he was brilliant in the first period, no doubt.
I don't think he was great down the stretch. I
thought the goal that got called back he should have
stopped its sailed right into the center of the net.
But it didn't count, and Tampa was missing headman. They're
missing bradon point. Like you said, Basilevsky nodding goal.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
But that's okay.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
That like you said, the points all spend and I'm
not sure Tampa's going to be in.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
The playoffs now.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
I look at every team in that conference in the East,
and I don't know who's going to make it, who's not.
It's such a jam packed standings, and I'm not sure
any teams that great.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
Yeah, I mean, Tampa is in first place in the
Atlantic right now, but Toronto, who was well out of
a playoffs but not well out of a playoff spot,
but out of one's just five points back of them.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Nobody's well out of a playoff spot. Not in the East.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
The loser points skews it horribly, and this year more
so than ever.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
Yeah, no one in the East is running away with anything,
So yeah, sure, maybe Tampa can fall out of the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
The power play is just a machine. Mark two for
four again.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
Last night and Tampa Bay had the number one PK
in the NHL heading into that game. I think they
still do. So that was a good tester and they
came up aces on that. I mean, this power play,
I think we can start to think as far as
having consistency and lasting for the entire season. Maybe not
number one in the league, but it should stay in
the entire Season's.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
A bit of a reach.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
I mean, it will happen almost January, ups and Dons,
and I do worry that Kendall doesn't stay on the
top power play when Raquel's back from injury. I think
that'll be just an an automatic mechanism for for MWS
to put Raquel out there and for the veterans to
want it.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Oh that's a legitimate worry that I'm having too.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
And it feels like that MUSE has done a good
job of avoiding that veteran thing, but not completely so far.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
And Raquel is a tough one to just say, hey,
you're wrong pp. Two.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
But PP two is a great spout to be And
you play with Coven and you play with Littang like
it's not devoid of talent, then.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Well and Kindle's their best power play. I don't care
if he's eighteen. I don't care if he's a rookie.
I don't care if he could be back in juniors.
He understands the power play better than Sidney Crosby up
Guinny Malkin do better than Carlson does.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
Absolutely benefits the team there, and again it benefits the
team to have someone like Raquel on their second you
know the second unit's going to have to play too.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
Do we trust Jari yet, I'm not sure I ever will.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
I'm kind of in the same boat. I'm not sure
if I'll ever be able to completely trust him. But
he's really doing a good job of winning me over
so far. There's still is that kind of leakiness to
him somewhat, but he's on point and he seems to
be at the top of his crease nine times out
of ten.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Now, Mark, that caught a lot of confidence with him.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
I do trust Maulk and he took a dumb offensive
his own penalty that thankfully Tampa didn't stick in the net.
But those two finishes were clean as a whistle. And
while I think it's a crime that Rush is not
in the Olympics, I think that two weeks off for
him to regenerate when the other players will be at
the Olympics will be a godsend to.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
Him, no question, And I'm honestly surprised he hasn't faded
is really at all this season. I mean maybe a
little bit from the hot start that he had, especially
scoring wise, but he's been absolutely a surprise for.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
Me this year to be playing at this level, have.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
A dominant game like he did in Tampa Bay, a
vintage performing. I mean, the steal in the game winning
goal was just it was awesome. Him tapping the stick,
you know what I mean, trying to get on the
horse to get to the puck.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Vintage stuff. So I'm excited for Gino Mark.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
I hate to do this, but if he could just
exit after this season, Penn's make the playoffs. He has
a year like this, What a beautiful last year, right, Like,
what a perfect send off it would be.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
Yeah, that's just not gonna happen.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
He's gonna want to stay and they're going to accommodate him.
How about Boco fought Andre the Giant chopped him down
some six' nine.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
Guy it felt almost. Biblical it was. Awesome you gotta
Keep oco on the, team, RIGHT i MEAN i don't.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
Need to dress him every, game but when the situation,
calls Like philly Is philly And tampa has a couple
of rough, Customers.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
Yeah then but keep him up here at THE nhl. Level,
YES i would, correct as you often, say and you're
saying again often now because Of. Boco doesn't matter who
your wings are on the fourth, line as long as
they can do something little else he'll.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
Avoid and, YEAH i got no problem With boco AND
i hate stagey fights like, that but at least he.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
Won and he's also not a, goon you know WHAT i,
Mean like he can actually play some, hockey some.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
Hockey, YEAH i wouldn't go. Overboard did you think the
time goal was going to? Count because that was a hand,
passed but very marginally it wasn't directed per.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
Se i'll be, honest if it's my, call elect the goal.
STACK i didn't think it was gonna get. OVERTURNED i
thought The penguins were going to get a bad break
there and that the game was going to go to.
Overtime so, hey it's all, right it's okay to be.
Lucky sometimes it's okay to get a call from the,
refs but they got a call.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
There musa's impact is.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
Undeniable you look at the special teams excelling that's, coaching
and you look at the kids And carlson And graves
really finding their. Games there's so much that he's changed
That sullivan just would not have sell of, them would
have just kept doing it by Rote.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
And is it perhaps even more impressive of the balance
he's been able to strike with everything that you just
said and the young, kids and also kind of ingratiating
himself with all time greats as far as the sport is.
CONCERNED i Mean hall of, Famers gino. SAID i, said
top five player of all. Time they seemed to love
playing for him, Too like he seemed to have no
problem winning those guys. Over AND i remember that was
a big talking. Point people are, like, well what's this
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inexperienced coach gonna do with a guy Like Sidney. Crosby
if sid had his, Way sully would still be. There
BUT i think sid is happy with what's going on right.
Now And i'm sure sid has looked down At New
york and noticed things aren't going swimmingly With sullivan.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
There, Yeah, sid if he had his, Way sully would
still be, there and that's now knock ON. Mws that's
Just sid's desire to maintain status.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Quo, well bod he didn't have his.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
WAY i think that the most amazing THING mwse has
done might be the resurrection Of. Carlson, now a lot
of that is due to this being An olympic year
and he wants to make sure That sweden puts him
in a prominent. Position so he's showing his best stuff out.
There but why ask? Why And carlson has made some.
Comments carlson's made a couple of comments that have been
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vaguely supportive Of Dan mues and ordinarily that would be
a big deal except he he had nothing but veiled
criticism Of sullivan in the, past including talking this.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
YEAR i think there's definitely something the coaching change with,
him but the main driving force is That olympic. Thing
being left off the preliminary roster got a little chapped at.
That he's definitely gonna Make Team sweeten now with the
season that he's, HAVING i, mean there's no question ABOUT
i don't think there was any question in any of
the first Correct they should have probably put him on
the prelam. Roster but whatever works For, Carlson i'm glad it's.
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Working AND i don't think that this is something where
like we'd come out of The olympics and The penguins
in the mix of this playoff race and he'd be, like,
WELL i got My olympic thing NOW i can kind
of just go back to. Coasting LIKE i think he'll
lock in for the playoff. Push, YEAH i think he'll
go back to. Coasting you think so of this? Year next,
YEAR i could see, It but for the next three
months after The, olympics we'll.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
See, okay we'll. SEE i have a lot more doubt
about it than you. DO i love the kid, line
and boy was coved and happy to finally.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
Score he was one happy kid needed it.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
Too wouldn't be surprised if he Scores sunday In dallas,
too because he's been playing so well and has deserved
more than just that one goal that he. Has SO
i think floodgates could be opening. HERE i think the
kid line, again Like kendall's gonna set him. UP i
think they're gonna start to develop some really nice chemistry
the more they play.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
Together, well the idea of the kid, line which which
OBVIOUSLY i came up with months.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
Ago he did two weeks. Ago, anyway NO i. Did
now the kids don't worry about letting don. Veterans they
worry about trying to outperform each. Other and there's still
pressure to, excel but it's a, DIFFERENT i would.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
Say more positive kind of.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
Pressure AND i think we see that those those kids
look like they're having a ton of. Fun and, McGroarty,
well he's came up and he's just knocked it dead so.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
Far, absolutely and if, so this can continue to keep
happening and that line solidifies. Itself Mark raquel comes, Back
brassers comes, back like things really kind of start to
fall into place.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
Nicely no one else worries me that when everybody's, back
coyven and starts getting scratched for Who i'm just, saying
Because brassers goes right to The geno Line HAZY i
forgot About hazy fourth line wing right well back to you're,
right because no force could make me rip the kids
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line apart until they prove they can't play. Together it's
right now they're certainly proving they. Can we'll get around
to talking The steelers sooner later we think we have
a bucket list guest to two. Thirty if he doesn't,
call will act like it never. Happened but right NOW
i am brimming with. Anticipation one five to, nine THE x, nine.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
THE X the world's best male ski racers are racing
in The United states and this.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
Semix and now it's time to turn our attention to
The steelers And ravens game On sunday At baltimore two
six and six teams fighting tooth and, nail not Unlike,
dawkin for the right to fool themselves for at least a.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
Week, tom what you're over under For Derek henry rushing?
Speaker 1 (09:52):
Yards Bet parks has the figure set at eighty point.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
Five, OH i would smash the over on.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
That eighty point five is a pretty high over under
for them to, said BUT i would still fly over.
It so he averages one hundred and thirty seven plus
yards in the three games he's played against The steelers
as A raven and that's including that first one that
yous you noted yesterday was like for sixty six yards
or something like.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
That, yeah sixty five and they stopped giving yards to. Carry.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
Yeah and then in the other two games he had
fifty three, carries so they were just pounding the rock with.
Him lamar's. HURT i didn't see the practice report yet
for The ravens. TODAY i don't know if he's going
to play or not in this. Game i'm assuming he. Will,
yeah but just he. Participate he did, Okay so he's
just extremely going to be limited. Again he's not going
to be as effective as he usually. Is they're going
to hand it off To henry thirty times as.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
Opposed To rogers and him being effective with of course
with the broken.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
Wrist But i'm just, saying With henry's, over, yeah he's
going to go for one hundred.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
Plus pittsburgh is not optimistic about The steelers at this.
Point do you Think baltimore is optimistic about The. RAVENS
i find myself wondering what they're saying when the show's down.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
There do you think that they're almost in a place
where you could Be it's almost more warranted to be
frustrated With harbaugh and how things are playing, out because
you're wasting a, guy you know WHAT i?
Speaker 2 (10:59):
Mean like The.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
STEELERS i don't want to sound Like i'm Excusing tomlin
because it's his fault that he hasn't found a guy.
Yet but they don't have that franchise quarterback to. Waste
tomlin did that With Ben roethlisberger in The Killer bee.
Era but that is so frustrating to See lamar if You're,
buffalo to See Josh allen and to see a coach
continue to fall. Short SO i bet it's bubbling over there.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
Too, yeah but you, Know ben got caught in The brady,
era and for him to win Two Super bowls, regardless
it's pretty impressive for both him and. FRANCHISE i think
With lamar he's caught in The Josh allen And Patrick mahomes.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
Era, yeah but they should have squeezed one out of
That Killer. Bee they were scoring like thirty forty points a.
Game their defense just sold them out so much on
what's scoring that many?
Speaker 2 (11:37):
Points you mean The? Steelers, yeah oh, no they were portly,
Coached that's What i'm. Saying.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
OKAY i actually feel more sympathy For lamar not having
gotten there in The mahomes And allen era THAN i
do in The Killer bees era.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
That they couldn't Get.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
Pet, well they did get Past, brady although they never
Beat brady in a playoff.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
Never to get to the Super. Bowl, yeah and. Win
they're Suit that's, Okay yeah. Whatever you can only beat
who's put in front of. You, Hey Josh Allen verry
might get his Super bowl this year without having to
go Through mahomes AND i bet you people will criticize
him for. That but that's. Fine he got his Super.
Bowl but, Yeah Lamar jackson in The ravens fan, BASE
i don't know if there's a little bit of a
pass being given because of how injured they are this.
Year there can't, be because they have wasted so much
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time with.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
HIM i feel like the only Way baltimore lose The
son is that they're dumb enough to not to pound
the ball With Derrick. HENRY i if he gets, hurt
even but like they could not smart. Themselves harball's as
dumb As tom When harbaugh. Could do they know that
we know, that we know that they?
Speaker 3 (12:30):
Know, yeah, Absolutely and they did that in the first
meeting between The steelers and The ravens that you. Reference
BUT i think that that was the wake up call
for him because they Got Derreck henry for a lot of. Reasons,
Mark BUT i think a main one, Was, hey we
can't really get past The steelers right.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
Now like they.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
Do whatever they do Against, lamar they do it pretty.
Well we need another punch that we can throw at.
Them let's get the best running back out there right.
Now they did, that and then they didn't use him
in that first, game AND i think they were, like
why did we even get him if you're gonna act
the same way that we always, did and when we
lose to The, Steelers, okay let's. Adjust and now we've
run it up on The steelers the past two. Times
it's been a double digit win each.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
Time isn't it.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
Nuts That rogers Isn't the receivers aren't on the same?
Page and it's week. Fourteen whose fault is That rogers talking?
Speaker 2 (13:10):
About?
Speaker 3 (13:11):
It got to put it on the, receivers, RIGHT i,
mean you got to keep up with a guy like.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
THAT i got to put it On Arthur smith, too
to not have the. RECEIVER i don't think.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
There's been a cohesive game plan since the Day rogers got.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
HERE i.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
Don't it's not nearly as fine, tuned consistent and rhythmic
AS i would. Expect and that's partly on the. Quarterback
and like you, said on the, receivers BUT i think
it's mostly On Arthur.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
SMITH i do also think That rogers does like to
find some shoots that he can pull when things go,
bad and this is something that he likes to.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
Do i'm not saying that it isn't.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
Happening, well if The steelers lose this, Week rogers could
be done quote unquote.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
Injured the risk is just too much. NOW i can't overcome.
It mason get in there for the stretch. Run, yeah
but it is three. BREAKS i, mean at least theyn't
have a good. Excuse, YEAH i think he has a
good excuse to not. Play he played Through. Pai, yeah
like last, Week i'd end. Up i'm pretty sure he
shouldn't have played last. Week this, week we'll, See, like
if he can't go under center this, week it's not
gonna be worth.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
It, again what kind.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
Of snaps do you expect that Of Thelanda getty help
court with the media for like. Forever if he plays
as much as he talked to the, media he'll Be
he'll be wide at number, one ahead Of.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
Metcalf it's a little surprising to me because although he
was a better player in his career THAN Mvs Valdez.
Scantling he's just as washed up As Voudas scantling, Is so,
like what's the difference? Here why DID mvs stay on
the practice? Squad But theling's going up to the media
and he's probably gonna get a hat On. Sunday, well,
YEAH i, mean there's no business like show. BUSINESS i
don't understand. It but feelin's don't have minimal. Impact he'll
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catch one, pass probably get a first. Down, well nobody
cares the time to get ready for the. Guest by
one oh five NINE.
Speaker 4 (14:40):
X sunday, night The pens hit the ice against The.
Stars game time is. Six our coverage starts at. Five
listen to every game in the Best pens coverage on
your home of The Pittsburgh. Penguins what oh five NINE vx.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
Is this season when you're in the mood for holiday Music?
Speaker 5 (15:04):
Halloween, yeah, Well, tom he pulled out right in front
of our faces.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
Too we, can't we. Can't we're not gonna say who
it potentially. Was but he only wanted to come on
into a plug and not an.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
Interview, yeah and that's just what it sounded so, weird,
Right it sounded like we were going into A Stone
Temple pilot song after.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
Yeah and to be, clear it wasn't a member Of
Stone Tumble. Pilots but, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
So once again all the laughter has turned to.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
Sorrow but we did get THE Usa World cup. Draw
they're Playing paraguay In australia and the winner of a
playoff In uefa Between, Turkey, Romania slovaki And. Kosovo AND
i don't give a rats ask about none of, that
But i'm plotting to figure out what Games.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
I'm going to go. To at least a.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
GAME i think it'll Be scotland playing, somebody because they're
gonna play in relatively close Proximity, Atlanta, Boston, philly someplace like.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
That don't know for sure where.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
Yet, yeah and that would be such a great game
to go. TO i think you said they could Play, brazil, Right.
Scotland scotland's definitely Playing.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
Brazil that would be, Awesome but that'd also be the
tough one to get tickets.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
To you would rather see a bunch of other teams
before you'd See TEAM, usa.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
Right i'd rather see Like Andy robertson play For scotland
or play For, egypt Like scotland Play, Haiti, Uh, brazil and,
UH i forget the third somebody slightly, lesser but, uh
The brazil game will be really tough to get tickets.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
To are you a fan of how they've expanded this
so that you can Start there's there's too many many
teams in it, now even though you can get some
more of those players in, it like A robertson In
asala and A holland whose teams might not have made
the cut in previous.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
Year, NO i think it's supposed to be you, know
best on, best which is a, phrase but but they've
they've really dilute duoted it so.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
Much by the, way the third opponent Is.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
Morocco it's gonna Be scotland Versus haiti at Either boston
Or New. Jersey scotland Versus morocco would Either philadelphia Or
boston In scotland Versus brazil at Either miami Or.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
Atlanta atlanta would be a lot Of atlanta's a fun.
Savior been To, Atlanta, yeah, wwn great, city, Right i've never,
been but people tell me all the time like that's
one That i've never been to that you should think
about going. To it's a lot of. Fun so that'd be.
Cool miami's fun. Too they're going to a ton of great.
Cities like it's almost like you can't go wrong with
wherever you.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
Choose, NOW i want to get back to THE nfl
because we Had thursday night. Football cowboys amania has kind of.
Subsided they lost At detroit last. Night dallas is now
six six and. One, uh but there's still that hype
and conversation because The cowboys And steelers don't have to
be good for that, crap Isn't dallas kind of a
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more Hype western version of The steelers in terms of
the logo gets them.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
Over but they're not that.
Speaker 3 (17:58):
Good oh, yeah even more so THAN i, mean they
haven't even been to AN nfc championship game since what
nineteen ninety?
Speaker 2 (18:03):
Six fives better right, now don't you? Think right?
Speaker 3 (18:06):
Now AND i like their future a lot. More like
they got a star quarterback next. Year he's probably like
thirty thirty, one but he's fine in the prime for a.
Quarterback next. Year they're a team that you got to look.
For they'll Franchise george and he'll probably go, crazy but
they'll get him. Back and their defense is building to.
Something they got all those. Picks dallas has got a bright.
Future they just dug themselves too deep of a hole
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at the beginning of this. Year and it was great
last night to See George pickens just Go George pickens
right quit on a bunch of.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
Routes, well one last thing About.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
Dak it took me a long time to admit To
dak is an elite, quarterback and it maybe took him
a long time to actually get to that. Level and
one thing that helped is the lack of quarterbacks and
the league good Quarterback so that kind, of you, know
propped him up a little, bit maybe takes him a little.
Higher but he's definitely a top ten and maybe a
top five, quarterback top.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
TEN i don't know if we can call him elite
yet though the playoff success has got to. Come he
always just looks terrible when the playoffs come. Around and
he's a great regular season, BORDERLINE mvp regular season. Quarterback
give me a season or two where that carries over
into the. Postseason Get dallas to the ACTUAL nfc championship
game for a, change then you're.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
Elite like you, Said pickens dogged it on some roots
and had a bad Night Richard sherman in commentary buried,
him And i'm like not.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
SURPRISED i, mean there he. Is there's the guy we.
Speaker 5 (19:21):
Know.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
Now what you have to determine when you look At
George pickens if you want him on.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
Your team or, not is will the good outweigh the?
Speaker 1 (19:28):
Bad and early on In dallas it, has but early
on the good always does.
Speaker 3 (19:33):
Exactly AND i really wonder what went Into pickens just
completely acting the way he, did because that usually is
When pickens would go off national stage, game all the
attentions on, him big, opponent and he just completely quit
on everything And Ceedee lamb was out, Too SO i
wonder if that had anything to do with they got
hurt throughout the. Game they kind of had to look
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At pickens as like that number one. RECEIVER i don't,
know you just can never trust him. Completely but they're
going to give him a lot of, money whether it's
with that franchise tag and he goes nuts or they
give him an actual, Contract AND i really, question AND
i think it's very fair to question what kind of
player he's going to be once that bag secured and
he has those you, know two three, years fifty sixty
(20:15):
million guaranteed in his.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
Pocket, WELL i still maintained that The steelers did the
right thing getting rid of, him and not just because
he is a ticking time, bomb but, because, uh they
just weren't ever gonna be able to get him the.
Ball they can't Get pickens the. Ball they've eliminated Friar
move from the. Game excuse, me A metcalf the? Ball
they they they've Excluded friarmove from the game. Plan what
(20:38):
makes you think That Arthur smith could somehow find a
way to Serve pickens in addition To metcalf when he's
not gotten it To.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
METCALF i have no reason to believe.
Speaker 3 (20:51):
That that's why it's foolish for anybody to think thielan,
old washed up, ass is going to come in here
and do anything at, all because they don't know what
they're doing, offensively to have any kind of diverse set
of weaponry. Whatsoever All Arthur smith is doing right now
is throwing the running.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
Backs that's.
Speaker 3 (21:08):
It that's the only thing that he does that. Works
their most explosive players is the tandem Of gainwell And.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
Warn Arthur smith's just done a, terrible terrible job and
not let's be.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
Honest rogers has been bad.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
Too, yeah the FIELD i, overestimated you know how he
had played early because they started four and. One but
he's been, bad not not as. EXPECTED i do admire his, guile,
sure and certainly playing with three broken bones in his left,
wrist but he's not been the quarterback they expected it to. Be,
now whether you want, to you, know slide the blame
To Arthur smith because of. THAT i, mean that's one
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thing about The STEELERS i, Hate and there's so many
things about The STEELERS i. Hate no one ever seems
to have blame stick to. Them it's always somebody else's,
fault and that's by. Design that's why they always say
that they make decisions as a, group because that way
you can't blame.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
Nobody and you're already starting to see the blame get
shared with what's happening. Now there's people that are in
The rogers camp already and they're starting to bring that.
Up and then it's the, Classic, hey they didn't do
anything to build a roster for, him why don't they
already bring Up Omar?
Speaker 2 (22:10):
KHAN i, Mean jason McIntyre From, fox we get a
sound bite from.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
Him we're gonna play later talking about how why don't
you blame THE.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
Gm tomlin is THE. Gm tomin has final say on,
everything so they're all just spreading it.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
AROUND i hired a guy who's not really, qualified Which
Arthur kahn Isn't Omark Arthur conn the bastard son Of
Arthur smith And Omar.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
Khan boy could he f up a football?
Speaker 1 (22:30):
Team that's why they hired of Being conn An Omar,
khan a guy who's not really qualified Because Tom win's
gonna walk all over him and have final say on.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
Everything tomas football. Personnel just make sure my money's right.
Right just make sure That i'm not screwing things up
as far as the salary cap is. Concerned i'm not
really concerned about that. Stuff and make sure that you
know IF i want to make a trade FOR, dkmf we.
Can and we see the reporting up close and personal
in the moment when these things. Happen rogers waiting for his,
decision driven By Mike, TOMLIN Dk metcalf going to trade for,
him driven By Mike tomlin getting rid Of George, pickens
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pushed mainly By Mike. Tomlin it's all coming back To Mike,
Tomlin but you're, right they do try to spread that blame.
Around The steelers by design want that to, happen and
the national media obliges a.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
Lot And i'm. TIRED i just.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
Soau i'm tired of how no blame ever sticks with
anybody when it comes To. Steeers nobody's get tired. Of
there's never any pragmatism about what's.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
Wrong.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
Okay, Uh i'm the first person to really, Say, Okay
rogers isn't playing very good at. All LIKE i would
rate him A c plus up until THE la game
and since then A d. Minus, okay probably probably A
d plus overall in the. Year and you know what
else people won't. Say THE Tj wats clearly lost a.
Step Matt williamson said. It did you see him BURRY
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Tj watt through?
Speaker 2 (23:47):
Stats?
Speaker 3 (23:48):
Again this was earlier in the, week but he noted this.
STAT i guess it's a next gym thing called get off.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
That they track for. PLAYERS i thought that was like
A brasser.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
STAT i think it's that, too but this is in
the football world and it just basically, measures you, know
how fast you're getting off the.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
SNAP.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
Tj watts faded in every single year since twenty twenty
two point seventy, five two point seventy nine to point eight.
Three now he's getting off at a point eight seven.
RATE i mean that's almost like a zero point one second.
Difference AND i know it sounds. Small that's such a
big deal in THE, nfl especially for WHEN. Tj watt
doesn't have any move but speed rush to the outside
and then close on the. Quarterback every half second. Matters
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and that's.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
Another thing people won't talk, about how The steelers won't
tell him what he has to. Do he's dodging criticism
for sticking to his comfort zone even as his stats.
Shrink there's so much that's clearly bad about The steelers
that is by their choice that people just don't, acknowledge no.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
Question and we all off, season in the training camp build,
up we're, told, yeah we got to Move wa around.
More what even, said, yeah that's probably smart to move
me around. More that was just lip. Service that was
just so they could get.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
By all, accounts he just will not do.
Speaker 3 (24:53):
It, yeah But i'm saying lip service mainly by him
just to get by those training camp. Interviews say, yeah you,
know you're, RIGHT i should probably move around. Whatever i'm
glad that's. Done NOW i go back to my same
spot rushing this right tackle and it's just not working.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
Anymore let's say The steelers Lose, sunday missed the.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
Playoffs do you think the citizens are gonna get really
legitimately angry moving? Forward do you think they might do
something like ruin the draft AS i, SUGGEST i, mean
As i've talked. About, uh you do you think it
will get to a level we've not seen here in
quite some?
Speaker 3 (25:23):
Time?
Speaker 2 (25:24):
YEAH i THINK i do believe. THAT i also wonder
if they.
Speaker 3 (25:27):
Were it makes you believe that because you're already starting
to see it. Happen they're starting to see the cracks
a little bit with the fire tom on chance at the.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
Stadium let me tell you where it'll get reeled. In,
okay this is a ton of. Whissies, okay it's very.
Pusillanimous youit people out there and know What i'm talking, about, Though,
seriously you are you, Are You're you're THE p, word
no question about. That and you know where that'll show
up is when the draft comes. Round it'll be all.
Speaker 5 (25:51):
Here we, go, stealers here we got and flying waving
the tiles ON.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
Tv they won't ruin the.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
Draft they won't be mad enough to be mad.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Enough too much time will.
Speaker 3 (26:01):
Pass you, think, like if they do miss the playoffs
and it goes to crap at the end of the,
season even if the draft happened in the week after
they got eliminated from, playoffs they'd be out there going
it's a scared.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
Time it's a time that's its own. Bitch you're probably
right about. THAT i wonder if things this time does
have the guts to ruin the, draft.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
Would things be even worse if they somehow got to
nine and, eight WHICH i think that gets you the division,
Honestly but if they did get to nine and eight
and did it make the, playoffs so they could still
kind of prop up this non losing season thing and
just miss the, PLAYOFFS i think that would set people
off in a bad.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
Way you think that would that be worse than?
Speaker 1 (26:34):
Eight?
Speaker 3 (26:35):
NINE i think it. Would, ACTUALLY i think nine would
cost some, relief don't. YOU i do like there'd be
a sigh a little. Bit we'd never have to hear this.
Anymore nine and, eight keeping that streak, intact but still
having to watch as the eight seed not getting in
that would be the nuclear.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
Problem, TOM i can't believe the guests fell through and
it's not your. Fault it still, sucks, THOUGH i mean
SECRETLY i blame.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
YOU i know you. Do do you want to fire?
Me but you still need me for one more.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
SEGMENT i don't know who would get that that's the,
problem and we're not going to reveal who it. Is But,
tom just so with that, review no hints at, all.
Nothing how psyched WAS i for this? POSSIBILITY i would
say like a ten out of? Ten? Yeah, yeah this
guy would have stepped into top five guest territory of
all time unless he was.
Speaker 3 (27:13):
A, dick and it sounds like he never will from
what we were. Told i'm just so.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
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Speaker 5 (27:44):
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Speaker 1 (27:50):
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Tom i'm just bummed by our guests pulling. OUT i
might go to The North hills basketball game, tonight their season,
opener part of their annual Tip off tournament At North
(28:10):
hill's eight.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
Pm though that's a late, Tip.
Speaker 3 (28:12):
Yeah really, Late AND i thought it was like a seven,
o'clock but you said that it's a, tournament so it
kind of pushes things back a little.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
BIT i think it's game two of the opening of the.
Speaker 3 (28:19):
Tournament traditionally got those seven pm, tips WHICH i think
are perfect for. Basketball out of there a little bit
before nine. Pm in high school it's.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
Perfect oh if it tips in, seven you're out of
there a little before eight.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
Thirty it's in high. School you're, Right those games just fly.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
By speaking of, basketball how About Oklahoma city's twenty one
and one in THE. Nba, No, NO i don't follow
THE nba, much BUT i, mean what's the record seventy
three wins in the.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
Season The. Warriors they broke The jordan bulls mark to seventy.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
Two, yeah but they didn't win it that, year so
it's a little weird Because lebron beat them in the,
finals where The jordan team actually won the. Championship so
a little asterisk on seventy. Three but, yeah that's the
regular season. Record they are on pace to win like
seventy nine right. NOW i can't even name one player
on the team Besides. Sga i'm not even sure what
his name. IS i just call HIM. Sga, yeah that's
a good. POINT i mean there's some people THAT i,
(29:06):
know Like Jalen williams is on that, team and that's
really it. THOUGH i Mean i'm trying to think of
somebody that you would know AND i can't tell. You
and they were in the finals and PLAYING tj last.
YEAR i mean like you were actually watching the, game
watched the, game AND i still can't remember. Nobody sga
is all you need to, KNOW, mvp and he is the.
Engine what's amazing about The thunder is they're twenty one and,
one they have THE, mvp they're the favorite to win
(29:29):
it again this. Year they have a top five draft
pick next, year like. Guaranteed they have so many first
round picks still stockpiled, up this organization might be in
the best spot of a.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
Say when they blew up the team a couple of years.
Speaker 3 (29:40):
Ago, yeah they Traded Paul george away and they traded Uh,
Russell westbrook, Away.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
Kevin it's a team. Team it's run the holes greater
than some of the. Parts, question the parts are.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
Considerable and this, year with like all these stars, out
Like Jason tatum's out of the year For, Boston uh
you got Of Chris halliburn not for the year For,
indiana it seems like clear sailing.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
For, them don't.
Speaker 3 (30:01):
IT i, mean even if they were, HEALTHY i think
it would kind of feel a clear sailing for.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
Them they're twenty one and one mark no one can beat.
Speaker 3 (30:07):
Them and even though those two stars are, OUT i,
mean there's still some really good teams in THE. Nba
lakers are good for no reason because Of, lebron which
is also. Funny he only scored like eight points last,
night which is. Hilarious it's the two white, Boys Luka
donchets And Austin reeves are lighting it up for The,
lakers And.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
Austin reeves is really.
Speaker 3 (30:23):
White we're forty four points last, night and he's wearing
a headband, now which almost makes him look even whiter.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
Somehow, now what do we got for the?
Speaker 3 (30:31):
Trifecta for today's TRIFECT i have a trifecta of stats
that have to do with The ravens rushing attack in
this game On sunday number. Three Lamar jackson last three
games has failed to get thirty yards. Rushing first time
in his career he's done. That he's running less ever
since the hamstring. Injury now he's dealing with an ankle.
Injury you almost don't have to worry about, him, Right,
like you can't completely say, that but that element of
(30:54):
his game is almost a non factor in this. One
but the problem is you have to worry About Derek,
henry who is rushed for a hundred and thirty seven
yards in his three games against The. Steelers and if
you ditched that first game where he only had thirteen
carries for sixty six, yards still five yards per. Carriage,
Crazy he's like one hundred and sixty yard average as
far as what he does against The Pittsburgh.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
Steelers so he's a.
Speaker 3 (31:14):
Force but the biggest problem That i'm seeing here is
this is gonna be your fourth game Without Derek harmon On.
Sunday in the previous three, games you have given up
one hundred and eighty three yards on the ground to
the opposing team on, average on average three yards. Average
three games the game missed With, Harmon we'll think about.
It it was The jets game they got torched almost
two hundred, yards The bills game last, week and then
(31:35):
it was That seahawks, game which was an improvement where
they only give up like one hundred and eleven to
The Seattle. Seahawks and you Got Derrick henry this week.
Too that's What i'm, saying so, like if you can Stop, henry.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
That's the.
Speaker 3 (31:47):
Traffic Number Three Lamar jackson three games has failed to
reach thirty yards rushing first time in his. Career number
Two Derrick henry versus The steelers one hundred and thirty
seven yards per game as A Baltimore. Raven and number
one When Derek harmon is out this, year The steelers
defense gives up one hundred and eighty three yards per
game on the.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
Ground we need a clearer coun off one T i
think that was all the, time all the.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
Time, okay one time a. Fluke i'm, sorry don't talk
back to. Me you Know i'm in a fragile mood
because the guest. Knows i'm flashing out too because of.
It it's an emotional time here at The Mark Madden. Show,
now now here's something that makes me not at all.
Speaker 1 (32:20):
Emotional H AND i should have got this uh on
the show, earlier EXCEPT i don't consider news at.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
All the pirates made a.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
Trade they Traded ovi a doo For we're told this
it's THIS mlb ready outfield. Prospect NOW i. CAN'T i
can barely spell his, name let alone pronounce.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
It but is this? Right Justin Nixon, Garcia.
Speaker 3 (32:40):
I've Heard justinson like you just kind of ignore THE
nyx and there have you heard his?
Speaker 2 (32:44):
Nickname? Though the PASSWORD i like. It it's not as
good as the, palindrome it's.
Speaker 3 (32:50):
Not BUT i like the passway At kateechae because his
name does look like a password that you would, have
like a default password that like a company would give
you when you just get like A Wi fi, router
like here's a bunch of letters just.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
Pushed. Ye, well never mind that they traded a guy
who was a legitimate back at the.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
End back then the Rotation Major league started with Ovid
O viedo and got this guy who, like here's this
guy reput raw power needs. Developed, okay, Yeah god knows
the powers are so good at developing. People he strikes
out a. Lot you don't, say but buck donation is.
Salivating there's an overreaction like there always.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
Is but but, like you know, what you know.
Speaker 1 (33:25):
What Noah house uh DMed me who we like and
he said that he thought they might get this kind
of return For, keller and they got it For. Oviedo
if this is all you're gonna get For, KELLER i,
mean it's gonna be a worse team next. Year and
this wasn't much return For. Oviedo do you.
Speaker 3 (33:41):
Think some teams Value oviedo more Than keller? Too Like
oviedo might have more of a future in some team's
eyes and more skill Than. Keller and he got a
little derailed because of the injury last, year but he
came back and, Looked, OKAY i wonder if there's some
teams that look At oviedo stuff and look at the
fact That keller is a bum in the second half
of basically every single season he's played in THE mlb and.
GO i don't know About Mitch. Keller maybe talk to
(34:02):
me About Johann oviedo. INSTEAD i love That pirates fans
are hoisting this up as like The banner. Move this
has to be the fourth or fifth best move that
The pirates make this off. Season if you want to be,
serious name Again JUSTINSON i, think or maybe it Is
justinson then and you have to have the EXCELLENT i
want to go With Justin, Nixon Justin, Nixon, aroo get
A nixon in.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
THERE i like. It, yeah, YEAH i know a stripper Named.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
Nixon this back in my strip club, days not at
uh cheerleaders. Like she didn't look Like, nixon thank, god
but there was something about her that definitely reminded me Of.
Speaker 2 (34:35):
Nixon she had A richard vibe for, you huh.
Speaker 1 (34:39):
X i think maybe the way she she took my
money and didn't give me much in.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
Return just just Like. Nixon, Yeah i'm not Sure Nixon
nixon just. Lied it was That nixon with A y
and y x o N that seems more stripper. Stripper, no,
no N i x o N.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
It's spelled just like the. President and there was what
was really sexy about. Her she had no idea Who
President nixon. WAS i had to bring it up up
and she's, like is that. Yeah oh, Oh by the, Way,
TOM i just typed. IN i just typed in this
guy's name the password into my. Computer it unlocks seventy
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