December 19, 2025 • 33 mins
Mark and Tommy Radio talk about the Pirates trade, the Penguins sucking and Steelers Lions this Sunday
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Let's welcome aboard dot tom op From Tom, what's your
take on the LAO acquisition? To me, it's a good
first step, but I bet it's pretty much the only step.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
I'm shocked that they did anything.
Speaker 3 (00:11):
I was kind of reserving myself to them, just going
through this offseason and almost getting this player and almost
getting that player, and then signing some token guys to say, oh, look,
we did something.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
We tried.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
It's a little different from last year. So I'm impressed
that they actually were able to go out and swing this.
But you're a spot on with that analysis, Mark, This
has to be a first step. They're still probably about
two bats away in my estimation, from being legitimately a
playoff contender, and specifically speaking, they still have just a
massive hole at third base right now. Triolo cannot be
your starting third baseman. Well, could you move Gonzales there?
Speaker 2 (00:42):
I don't think he's the arm strength to play third base.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
I think he is really in a tough spot right now,
to be honest with you, But that's fine, because Gonzalez
isn't that great of a player.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
People overrate him.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
No, I agree, but I still think he's better than
some of the guys. At a great point, he's a
better bet than Triola.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
That's a great point.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
Yeah, Like, do you make glow the DA leave Gonzalez
at second or vice versa.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
So no mascot, no mascot cuts this year?
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Then, well, I think, And this is a conversation I
was gonna have, you know, maybe Monday once this sunk in,
because damn the Powers for making a deal right before
I go on the air.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
I had to redo preparation and that's not fun, Tom.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
I'd like to just kind of come in secure with
what I had planned to say since roughly a thirty
pm last night. Well, no, after the Penguin game, which
we'll get to in a moment. But yeah, I think
I think it would say a lot about their desire
to move forward if they move on without Cutch.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Yeah, I think so too. I think. I mean this
Magnum guy.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
I'm always gonna say Magnum, but it's Mangum.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
The inn comes before the GA.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Right right, and the stolen bases come before the power.
But but I mean, he's gonna get some at bats.
I just think they need to move on from Cutch
if they want to show us that they're serious and
not just a nostalgia act.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
Yeah, I mean, so you're gonna have Cruis and Reynolds
in your outfield and it's probably going to be this
Mangum and Password platooning in the other outfield spot. You'd think,
right like, that's what they would go with. And then hey,
what if I don't know, I know, you guys out
of a police and just speculating, and my point being is,
and then what if the other one plays so well
that you just want to put him at DH the
password just becomes the DH. Yeah, cuts it Cuts should
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be the odd man out. They should move on from
a Cutch. And I'm not sure yet they don't bring
him back on like a four or five million dollars
a year deal though one year deal.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
Will they promote Griffin no matter what? Will he be
in the opening day lineup, no matter what.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
If they make one more move for a bat, I
think they can hold off on that.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
Well, that's not what I said. I mean logically, in
his development, he shouldn't come up at all. He shouldn't
start the season in the Major.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
League even as it stands right now, even before they
got low, he shouldn't have been starting the season.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
I don't think.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
But I think they're gonna look the hype as much
as possible, get tickets sold early on you know, season
ticket packages, whatever, and I just think that's there. I
think they've intended to do that maybe dating back into
last season.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
It is so unlike them, though, I mean, they love
to manipulate that clock and service time and make sure
you get as much out of these products a possible,
So it would be bucking their usual trend big time.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
Where do you see them how many win team now
after having acquired Brandon Law.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
You're probably right, seventy five, seventy six something like that.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Can they hang in the playoff race for most of
the season.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
Though, depends on how you think the division looks like.
Do you think the Cubs will come back as strong
as they were last year? The Brewers were great in
the regular season last year, they just went on a
run in the second half. I think that they can
hang around, definitely be in it at the deadline right now,
but I just don't think they'll be able to push
through that August and September month to get into the
playoff race.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
Then I bet what they do is they start off
really hot and get people believing they can make the
playoffs and then just soil a bit, which brings us
to the Penguins, who have not lost seven in a row.
And we'll talk about them at length a bit later,
but just right now, to me, they mean four mila
at Ottawa. They were never in the game. It looked
like they quit. Muse looked as confused as Mike Johnston
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behind the bench, and I hate to say that's starting
to become more and more of a valid comparison to
my eyes. And it was pointed out to me this
morning that the Penguins no team really normally soils the
bit and quits on the dad's trip. But the dads
had to watch that last night. And I am told
that the locker room is really fuming over Jarry getting traded.
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Remember when they kind of went on strike when they
traded Jake a few years back and missed the playoffs
because of it.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
I'm told this may be a similar situation.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
Oh, because Jarry deserves that. Jarry deserves the Jake treatment.
It is crazy how much they overestimated him in that
own long.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
It is also crazy how much they just want the
gang to stick around, even a member of the gang
who didn't win a goddamn playoff series with the Penguins
in his ten years with the team.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
I mean, it's like a guy like said, is he
more in favor of keeping the gang around or is
he getting sick of missing the playoffs for three straight
years going on four. To be perfectly blunt, he wants
to have his cake and eat it too. Well, it's
not happening, and it's not gonna happen this year.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
Boy. I mean, I bet that was a surly group
of dads after the game last night. One dad I
can think of in particular. But yeah, it's just it
was just an excrement show last night. And they got
to get back to the plan. They got to get
Kindle on the top power play f Anthony Manton that
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watched up one needs some bitch. They got to get
Hine and back in Wilkeson, get Bras ups with the Penguins.
They screwed up Harrison Brunnick because they got that whiff
of maybe making the playoffs in their nostrils. Kyle needs
to go to Muse and make the plan get put
back in effect. And if Muse won't do it, screw you.
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You're fired.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
Part of that plant. Bruni comes back from juniors from Canada.
You play him every night, right like just or maybe
you know you do like more, you send them back
to the junior juniors.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
But you make a freaking decision.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
Yeah, he's got to play more than he is. And
that and who's is that?
Speaker 1 (06:00):
It?
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Tom?
Speaker 1 (06:00):
When it happened that that hot start would screw them up,
it would skew the plan.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
Me Mark Madden, the super genius. That's too.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
I'll throw another one in there that they have to do.
I think they got to get rid of she Lov's
and they got to bring Mirashov up, and they just
got to go with Skinner and Mirraschov moving forward and
let Merschov develop up or.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
If you want Moroschov to stay down there and develop.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
Joel blum Quist has been playing him up really well
in Wilkes. Just have him have like like one Quist
and morishof move back and forth once in a watch.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
Sure, why not just get she Loves the hell out
of here. He stinks. He's on a six game losing
streak mark. His safe percentage in the past four games
is seven eighty four.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
It's awful.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
A shooter tutor could do could do that well, and
having interviewed Chilofs probably have more personality one oh five
ninety x. On Twitter, a lot of people were big
en up Mike Burrows, who the pirates gave up in
this Brandon Loud deal? I mean, was he great? I
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never noticed it when he was here. I mean, who
he ever beats? But the love deal has the optimism
off the hook, off the hinge, with the usual suspects
and of course buck onation, and I still feel like
right now they're no better than a seventy five win team,
although I will say, if you can add another bat,
even if that's Connor Griffin, he turns out to be
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eighty percent of what he turns out to be for
the long run, I mean, that'll be enough support for
Skeens to maybe actually have a record over five hundred,
which I think Tom Skeins was over five hundred or
was he five hundred?
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Yes? What a great accomplishment.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
Uh Okay, here's my fearless prediction for the Steelers game
at Detroit. I think Detroitch's going to kill the Steelers
like thirty five seventeen. The Steelers can't slow down that
offense or keep up with that offense. I think tom
Win will make the mistake of trying to force a
rock fight early because he knows no other way, you know,
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try to win the possession game, try to win the
field position game, and it just has no chance of working.
And right now Detroit is out of the playoffs and
it gets really grim for the lines if they lose.
So there's more for them to lose than there is
for the Steelers. And I don't know how Detroit has
lost six games, just like I don't know how the
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Steelers have won seven games. I'm just dazed and confused.
And while the line secondary is beat up, their pass
rush might kill Aaron Rodgers. The big matchup to watch
there is going to be Troy Fautanu against Aiden Hutchinson
on that side of the line. So I think the
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Steelers can win this game if they wise up. I
just don't think Mike Tomlin has it within him to
play a different kind of game. I mean, he did
last year when they won the shootout with Cincinnati, or
I don't know, maybe Cincinnati forced that more than the
Steelers kept up with it, But I don't know. I
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just don't have a good feeling about this game. I
will say though, if the Steelers do win, the hero
will be the modern day warrior Jack Sawyer, who I
don't think is quite ready to be a starting edge
rusher in the NFL, but I think he might be
ready to do it on the day. I think adrenaline
might boost him and the extra snaps will be to
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his benefit because of that adrenaline and to the Steelers benefit.
Tom what is the Steelers' best bet to win this
game at Detroit?
Speaker 3 (09:34):
They definitely have to slow down Jamier Gibbs, Like that's
where it starts. But the problem with the Lions it's
kind of the same problem you face with the Bills, right,
And I think that's why you're saying you feel like
this could be a blowout, just like the Bills game was.
Is if you slow down a rushing attack, and they
didn't do this against the Bills, but if you slow
down Gibbs, they have a CounterPunch with Goff and Saint
Brown and Williams and Laporta have a really good passing
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game in that Detroit offense too, So similar to Buffalo,
it's like, okay, we stop the run in theory, but
Josh Allen could drop four hundred on our head and
still beat us. So it's tough for me to see them,
you know, coming up with you do this one thing
like you did against Miami equals victory.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
Yeah, no, I agree.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
It's one thing to put the game into his hands, Yes,
it's another to put the game in golf's hands.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
Who.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
Like we talked about yesterday, I think is is underrated.
I don't know if Detroutch's going to win a Super
Bowl with him, but I think he's done a great
job there peripherally, Tom, because it really matters. Who do
you like in that Ravens New England game? I know
New England has missed a lot of dbs, right, just
like the Lions are.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
Yeah, I kind of like the Patriots though in that game.
I'm not gonna lie, especially get they're getting three points
right now, Like I would definitely snatch that up. People
are overestimating the slide of the Patriots because of what
happened to Buffalo last week.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
Oh, no question. We talked about that yesterday.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
Ye yeah, they lost to Buffalo, blew the lead, but
they won ten in a row.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
Before that, and it was thirty five to thirty one.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
I'm not underestimating Baltimore being backed into a corner in
what pretty much much to a must win situation.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
I'm not either, but I said this yesterday too.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
On the surface, twenty four to nothing against Cincinnati and
Cincinnati looks like, oh, the Ravens are back. But then
you dig in and it's like Lamar didn't play that
great in that game, and the Bengals just reek of
a team that quit, and the quarterbacks talking to the
media and saying he quit. So it's tough to think
that they, you know, really showed a good, you know
fight in that game, and they're bouncing back. I think
the Patriots are going to beat the Ravens and they're
gonna put him in a really tough spot going to
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Lambo next week.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
I spoke to our Detroit Lions in nine to eleven
correspondent Kevin Nash this morning, who is on his way
to Pittsburgh for a convention at one of those cons
and we were talking about Baltimore and about John Harbaugh
and how he always got smarts himself. And he said,
and I agree, And this applies to the Steeler game,
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which the Steelers won despite not really deserving to. But
how can you not run Derrick Henry twenty times in
the first half in every game and break the other
team's will.
Speaker 3 (11:59):
Yeah, And then Derrick Henry is such a unique player
that you can do that strategy and then run him
twenty more times in the second half because he doesn't
wear down. In fact, he gets stronger statistically speaking, as
the seasons get later and as games get later. That
is a huge air that's going on right now with
the Ravens. For the past two years, they go out
and they get Derrick Henry and then they try to
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get away from him too much.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
I think part of it is they feel pressure to
make sure Lamar the MVP, gets his froze and his
carries and blah blah blah. But it's a different story
right now with him playing clearly dinged up.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
And also Lamar has his stats, he has his two MVPs.
For his legacy. Now it's about getting that Super Bowl ring.
It should be by any means necessary to cement him
as an all time great by getting him that ring.
And if you have to hand it off a thousand times,
handed off a thousand times, I.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
Gotta be honest.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
He's a two time MVP, but he ain't no all
time great.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
If he wins the super Bowl, he will for sure
be an all time great. He's already the greatest rushing
quarterback ever.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
He ain't gonna win a super Bowl? You don't think
so fair?
Speaker 1 (12:55):
He might not, And I think if he gets the
MVPs with no ring, I mean he's going to be
in the Hall of no doubt he will. But I
think people say, Okay, more evidence that kind of quarterback
really doesn't work.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
But I think it's wrong. I do. Okay, what quarterback
like that's won a super Bowl?
Speaker 3 (13:10):
I don't know, But like you think that that's a
bad quarterback to have you don't think you can win.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
I ask again, what kind of quarterback like that has
wan to see? What's his problem?
Speaker 3 (13:17):
Then he's the second best passer rating quarterback in the
past three years in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
He's great.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
I just think when you play good teams in the playoffs,
you need a pure, precise passer.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
He does that, not against good teams in big games. Okay, fine,
but he might. I think it's too early to write
that off completely. The Sirens song.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
Of the truly Despert Tom he might, no, and he's
really good I just I just think the playoffs or
a different story with the type of car, a different beast,
it's required.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
Josh Allen plays great in the playoffs too. He is
yet to get to a super Bowl. Needs to have
that happen.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
Uh. Yeah, I think he's a better passer. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
I don't know about that. I don't know that Josh
Allen's gonna win either or be an all time great.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
Then and if the Bills don't win this year with
Mahomes not there to be their bogie team the bow
quarterback with the Chiefs, then then it's if they don't
win this year, it's really on them.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
And honestly, applying that to Harbaugh and the Ravens, that
might be why I fire Harbaugh. I might look at
him and be like, dude, Mahomes was out and the
Steelers were the best team in the division and you
couldn't win it.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
I don't think they'll.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
I think Harbaugh doesn't have quite the job security of
Tom Win in Pittsburgh, but I think it's pretty close.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
The Ravens are like the Steelers in that sense, haven't
They only had three coaches in their iteration since being
in Baltimore Ravens. I think that's right. They had I
forget his name, who started it, Ran Billick. Brian Billick
was the second coach, and then he handed it right
off to Harbaugh.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
I think you're right.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
I think I think they see themselves in the same
mold I do, yeah, as the Steelers in terms of organizationally.
Here's here's something I heard today on the B team
and I didn't know how to how to how to
perceive it. Well, actually I do know how to perceive it.
It's their mindless optimism, the fanboys stuff. But they were
saying the Steelers are trending upward. Are the Steelers trending
upward or to just win a couple games in a row,
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because that there's a difference there, potentially just.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
Getting ahead of them themselves by one game. If they
beat the Lions, then yes they are trending upward. But
that hasn't happened, right.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
You know what I've been saying all week, went out
went out. If you want to be for real, you
want to be for real, you want to build legitimate momentum,
win out, and the schedule does not preclude winning out.
You can win a Detroit and the other two games,
I dare say they probably should win.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
Yeah, if you win, although.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
If the Baltimore game is winner take off of the division,
then it gets really tricky.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
It's diicy, it does if it's if they do win
this game in Sunday, I think they will win out
because I don't. I think Baltimore's gonna split, and I
think that they will make that game.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
If they If they win at Detroit, I do think
they win out. I think if they don't win at Detroit,
then the Week eighteen game does determine the division champion
and the playoff.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
Spot, and it goes to a Baltimore. I think Baltimore.
Baltimore wins at that point.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
They always split, right isn't that the cliche that Steelers
fans love the parade around at the beginning of the season.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
You're always split with Baldton. Not this time they won't.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
But yeah, I mean I think they should have lost
at Baltimore. I think the referees didn't give them the game.
How did I describe it then? That there were just
some unfortunate calls for the Ravens that all went the
Steelers way. They weren't necessarily bad calls. Except for the
call on roughing the long snapper. But you know the
other two calls could have easily gone against against Pittsburgh.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
But I don't feel like they're trending up.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
But I still feel like Rogers, the way he's playing
is is just above average and no better, like people
are lionized.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
And we got.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
A a sound bite later, who's it from from Mike McCarthy,
you know, admittedly Rodgers's old coach at Green Bay saying
how great Rogers was?
Speaker 2 (16:36):
I mean, was he great? Or was he like pretty good?
Speaker 3 (16:38):
He wasn't great, He was more pretty good. He's gonna
have to be great in Detroit though you're in a dome,
you know what I mean, no elements. You gotta rip
it up against that defensive back that's injured to the
defensive backfield. So he's got to have a great type
of performance, statistically great. Two seventy five, three touchdowns.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
I got to text tom and I texted back, who
is this? Somebody who said would I be early tomorrow?
And I'll be at Marino American Eatery for the Penguins game,
and then Sunday I'll be at celebrations in Imperial for
the Steelers Alliance and sticking around for some of that
Penguins game afterwards.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
But I didn't recognize it. I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
I texted back, who is this? And the text not
reason this is Josie? Is this Anna's new number? Would
like to invite you to a barbecue for tomorrow? Now, Tom,
what those are? Do you ever get text like that?
Speaker 3 (17:26):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (17:26):
I do sometimes.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
Okay, they're trying to catfish you, yes, exactly, trying to
get you to, you know, give them some kind of
information or you know, like try to liaise with them,
and then you know, they threaten to embarrass you as
a result. Yes, And I am way too smart for that,
although it really couldn't hurt the caller back.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
One O five to nine The X.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
Tomorrow nights, the Pens go head to head against the Canadians.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
Game time is seven.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
Our coverage starts at six here every game and the
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Speaker 2 (17:56):
One five nine the X.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
Pellets. We'll face the toughest job interview in face Joe, Tom,
I gotta ask, what's the biggest story today? The Pirates
acquiring Brandon Law from Tampa. Previewing Steelers Detroit or the
Penguins having lost their seventh in a row last night
and looking like they quit.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
I think it actually should be Steelers in Detroit.
Speaker 3 (18:22):
I know the Loo thing has a lot of people excited,
but we got a long time between now and the
baseball season starts.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
And do you agree it ends with him being traded
in July?
Speaker 3 (18:31):
Yeah, if they're out of it, or even do you
think there's any chance he reopts.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
No, there's no chance he reopts.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
And unless by some miracle they do go to the
playoffs and make a round.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
Now, from that standpoint, I give them credit for trading,
even for rental, because schemes might just have the one
year here. Maybe they're doing this year what they should
have done, you know, last year and the year before,
every year they had Paul Skins. And by getting this
guy in a trade where he couldn't say no, he
didn't have that that, you know, right, every fus I'm
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assuming because I would refuse. But but now you've layed
groundwork where free agents might think, Okay, these guys maybe
are serious. In the short term anyway, maybe you get like,
what did you see Bellinger wants something?
Speaker 2 (19:16):
But by the same forty million or something. Yeah, but
here's the thing.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
If the powers were serious, Well, the thing is if
he wants that, you'd give that the skemes and he'd
say no to just like Bellinger wud.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
I know there's still in a tough spot.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
They are, but there are some guys out there, some
fringe players that now I think you can fill out
this lineup with, like a Michael Confordo who was with
the Dodgers last year, costs like eight million dollars pay him.
You really want to talk throw twenty million at a
you Hennio Suarez. That's going to be an overpay for him,
but that fills your third base spot, and he hit
over forty home runs last year.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
I don't disagree that.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
In fact, if I had to say one move they
should make that, I'm not sure it's makable because again
I'm not sure anybody wants to come here.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
Yes, but the move is to overpay swats.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
Yeah, absolutely, I think the spot track told me like
fourteen fifteen is what they're expecting him to get on
a per year. BA twenty twenty one million would absolutely
make him come here, even if he didn't want to come.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
If you added Suadez and at him and Lao in
the middle of the lineup.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
And let's say you win the gamble by promoting Connor
Griffin at that age, you could make the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (20:13):
Are we pulling the plug on Reynolds and Cruz too
that there's no like turnaround for Reynolds this year or
Cruz actually turns into something decent?
Speaker 2 (20:20):
What I mean, you're talking about trading him?
Speaker 1 (20:21):
No? No, No.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
As far as in the lineup, how they fit with
that what you're saying.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
I think if they're protected by better bats, they would
be better.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
And here I am being optimistic. Well, I think that
applies to Reynolds. I don't know about Cruz.
Speaker 3 (20:33):
I just Cruz just went so hard in the tank
at the end of last season, didn't finish under the
Mendoza line or really close to it.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
He was flirting with it. I just don't know if
he'll ever come around.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
Now. Well, here's the thing about him. I think he's
really stupid, true, and I don't think he cares very much.
I think he got his money. You know, he could
afford to buy the entire Dominican Republic. I just think
he has achieved what he wants in baseball.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
Already.
Speaker 3 (20:54):
He probably wants just like very Polanco esque, probably wants
to play short stops too. Still, right like, if he
had his way, he would probably still want to be
a shortstop and playing.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
I'm surprised he didn't rebel in that regard. I mean,
after after he proved to not be any more comfortable
in center field.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
It is still a pretty glamorous position, right Like, It's
not like they moved him into right field.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
I don't care. It's not short But I'm just saying.
Speaker 3 (21:14):
You asked me a question.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
No, no, no, no, no, I mean I don't I mean,
I'm not gonna I don't know what's a glamorous position
in baseball. I mean, Willie May's paid center field that.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
Joe Mickey Mantle. I know.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
I don't think it's put it this way. I don't
think it's any less glamorous position than shortstop.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
That's what I'm saying though, So maybe that's why he
didn't rebel, because it was like, Okay, I'm still kind
of in a big time spot, just in the outfield,
not in the infield.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
Is he due for arbitration? O'Neal Cruz, they signed him,
they locked him up. Yeah, that's right, But no, what
are you sure about that.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
I'm looking up his spot track right now to see
when that deal. I don't know they ate into some
of them.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
And if I sound confused, it's because I don't talk
about baseball hardly ever, and really don't care. Tom. While
you're looking that up, let's let's talk Penguins. Last night
was bad. Did it looked to you like the Penguins quit?
It looked to me like they didn't even start like.
It looked at me like from the beginning of the game,
they just didn't have any jumper. You'd expect them to
get shot out of a cannon trying to end a
six game losing streak against the team that is not
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that good in Ottawa.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
And it just was flat from the start of the game.
It was very surprising to see that.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
Is Dan muse in over his head. He looks befuddled.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
He reminded me seriously of Mike Johnston, who had a
brief stint as Penguins coach, a first NHL head coaching job,
almost certainly his last.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
He's back. I think in junior a.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
Mus looked confused and I think he's gotten away from
the plan for this season, whether on his own behest,
whether it's with Dubas's approval, which I got, I think
Dubis needs to straighten him out.
Speaker 3 (22:42):
I mean, the honeymoon portion was great right the first
month and a half with me.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
But I think the honeymoon I think the honeymoon portion
when they started out so hot and had like the
best ruger in Eastern Conference, I think that was fool's
gold obviously, and I think it got them off course
for what they should be doing.
Speaker 3 (22:58):
Which is so weird because they were leaning into what
they should be doing that provided the fools gold start.
So why would you change course? Why wouldn't you just
keep leaning into that and say, hey, maybe we keep
getting lucky and it keeps working out.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
Well, what they gotta do is you gotta go with
kids and music isn't not enough Like friggin' Mantha on
the top power play, not Kendall, who's their best power play?
Guy Heinen in Pittsburgh Bros. At Wilkes Brunick's year getting mangled.
You know, I just I just think right now, in
terms of that sort of decision, forget about what's actually
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happening on the ice, But in terms of decision making
with the roster and deployment.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
How many mistakes are they making? Let me comp the ways?
Too many? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (23:38):
Absolutely, The buttons just start being pushed. We said that yesterday.
He's not finding a good touch right now and the
league's pushing back on him after his hot start. He
has no answers, and we said yesterday too, are you
too far away from getting into you know, bottom five,
bottom six positioning? Keep losing five or six more in
a row and we can start talking right What if
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they get.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
Swept in the home and home with Montreal on Saturday Sunday.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
If you get swept, I wonder what happens. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (24:07):
Do you fire him? Is it too early to pull
that trigger? And what's the means there? I guess you
would fire him just because he's not leaning into development
like you wanted him to, Like that would be your
main reasoning.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
I think at that point you'd fire him because he
lost nine straight. Losing nine straight is unacceptable. Like I said,
he looks confused, the team looks like they quit And
as you heard me say a little bit ago, Tom,
I'm told the room is upset because Jari got traded.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
Like when Jake got traded.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
That room and this includes everybody in it needs to
get the f over itself. Yate won a playoff series
since twenty eighteen. Yate made the playoffs in three years.
You're a bad hockey team. Figure it out and don't
pop because you don't have the right too. You're not
entitled to it.
Speaker 3 (24:46):
Hearing that if I'm doing this and I say other
room's not taking it, well, that actually might encourage me
more if they continue this slide, to move a rust,
to move a raquel, to blow the room up even more,
to be like, if you're gonna be this soft when
I make trades like this, forget that room.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
I don't want that rum.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
I think the intent was to at least investigate that
in the off season of Paper Soon scared Kyle, we'll
talk about how Sid needs to be in the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
So he kept both of his line mates instead of
shipping one of them off. Yeah, it just just I mean.
Speaker 3 (25:11):
Carlson's got to be traded now too, kind of for
the same reason why Jarry needed to be trade.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
He's starting to fade, he's started to get backs.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
You gotta get him out of here. While there's probably
some still value.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
What about getting slaughter on the dad's trip, Tom, that
that almost never happens. The kids usually up the annie
when the dads are there. They clearly did not last night.
I mean, sorry dad. Do you think they got a
tongue lashing when they went back to the hotel? Like
kind of like a throwback to the.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
I don't know what kind of women these guys meet
on the.
Speaker 3 (25:36):
Road, Tom, Uh, you have seen mister deeds when the
dad takes off the belt when he uses foul language.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
Do you think that was happening to the player?
Speaker 1 (25:43):
You know, I thought about this the other day because
I watch Uncut Gems over and over, Yeah, which I
think is one OF's best movies. I thought, funny people
like the ones that are semi drama with comedy stirred in.
I think he found kind of a niche. However, accidentally,
he's got chops there, no doubt. Yeah, yeah, but but
I you know, I've seen relatively few Sandler movies there.
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He got in a jag where a lot of them
just weren't pretty good. Although he hasn't disappeared and done
bad product like Will Ferrell has in the past.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
When's the last good Will Ferrell movie. That's the thing.
Like Adam Sandler at least hasn't faded, you know what
I mean. Like Adam Adam a huge talent. No even
like I've watched grown Ups years after the fact. It's funny.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
They're formulaic with all the like you know, his cronies,
but they're okay, yeah, there is. You're right, that's a
good way to put it because of who's in it,
and because the storyline is real simple and it's it's
nostalgia based. The charm is definitely there. I'll say this,
here's how bad Will Ferrell's been for long enough. Yeah,
I'm beginning to wonder if he was ever any good
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in the first place, and if we overrated his body
of work.
Speaker 3 (26:47):
I think he was pretty good on Saturday Night Live.
I think his movie career took off to a different
level with the McKay team up, and now that he
has divorced himself from Adam McKay.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
You just starting to wonder who made who I think.
Speaker 3 (26:59):
Movie wise, like Superstar wise, I think Adam McKay had
a lot to do with that.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
There's no question, Okay.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
I think we've concluded that the big story today is
not the acquisition of Brandon Law, or the Penguins losing
seven in a row or the Steelers in line Sunday.
It is indeed the trajectory of Will Ferrell's career.
Speaker 3 (27:19):
Do you want to know about o'nel Cruiz's arbitration. He
is due arbitration this year. Three point twenty five mil
is the estimate. I thought, so, yeah, you were right.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
Well, three point two five mil for his talent is
actually reasonable.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
It's not bad for his performance. It's actually overpaying.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
It is I just like I'd get I'd trade him
before people figure out that.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
It just just is what he is.
Speaker 3 (27:41):
Especially coming off of that derby, right, because the national
perspective is like, wow, look at what he did in
the home run derby. O'Neal Cruiz is awesome. That's what
people on the West Coast think of him, who pitched
him in a home run derby.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
As some pitching coach for the Pirates. I think because
I'd have beaned him. One oh five nine the X
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Speaker 1 (28:01):
See this hour of the show brought to us by Shnderovi,
Shenderovich and Fishmen. They only charge twenty five percent. Everybody
else charges forty. I think forty is just screwing you
to the wall. And Shndrovia Shendrorovis and Fishermen are the
only lawyers out there who care. But that's just me
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well them and Saul Goodman, who is not available locally.
And I think if we follow the storyline, God will
still be in prison.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
There's a new Tom. Have you heard? Were you Better
Calls off?
Speaker 1 (28:33):
In?
Speaker 3 (28:33):
Nah?
Speaker 2 (28:33):
Didn't watch Breaking Bad, So I didn't watch Better Call Saw?
Speaker 1 (28:36):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (28:36):
Because there's there's one what's it called?
Speaker 1 (28:39):
Uh? Vince Gilligan who did those two series, has one
featuring Ray Seahorn, who is a big part of Better
Call Saw?
Speaker 2 (28:45):
But I forget what's called porbus?
Speaker 3 (28:46):
Maybe it has nothing to do with No, No, no, it's
not in our same character.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
No.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
I like today's show, you know why because the lile
trade and the penguins soiling the bed on the Dad's
trip gave us a lot to pick from the converse about,
aside for the usual your hint cause Steelers are gonna win.
With that in mind, let's go to the trifecta. Tom,
What do you got?
Speaker 2 (29:07):
Yeah? Perfect?
Speaker 3 (29:08):
With that in mind, so I've got stats on each
one of the Lions Big three that really puts into
perspective how historically great they've been so far.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
To quote David sat Hubbins, maybe too much effing perspective.
Speaker 3 (29:20):
Number three, I'll go with Aiden Hutchinson, their best player
on defense. He's the first player since sacks have been
tracked in nineteen eighty two to have thirty five plus
sacks and five plus interceptions in his first four career seasons.
So he gets it done, not just sacking the quarterback.
He'll drop back and coverage and pick you off. Hutchinson
has that many picks.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
Five plus picks.
Speaker 3 (29:39):
So he's better than what right now, without question, he's
better than all they stabbed what In the long of course,
this is going to be better now. He actually kind
of reminds me a bit of what like back when
Watt was in his prime, where he could do that
kind of things like drop but not getting stabbed in
the lung right back before a lot.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
Isn't that amazing that that hasn't been made a bigger
deal out of them they stabbed him in the lung, He's.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
Just kind of brush right over, oh whatever where without.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
I still love that he was at like the Christmas
function for the Steelers. Look he's getting better. It wasn't
an effing lung x rayu Marks. Okay, what else?
Speaker 3 (30:08):
Number two Jamiir Gibbs, the Lions star running back. He
and Barry Sanders are the only players in league history
with twelve hundred plus scrimmage yards and ten plus touchdowns
in their first three seasons, and they all each accomplished
that before turning twenty four. Gibbs, here's a bonus. One
fifty two career touchdowns, has the most touchdowns of any
player in NFL history before turning twenty four. Or do
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you rank him currently among the NFL running backs? He's
no lower than three. He might be one. You could
probably make the case for him at number one. Him,
Bijon definitely right there.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
One.
Speaker 3 (30:38):
Two's having a little bit of a down year this year.
Speaker 1 (30:41):
Oh, I'd rank Gibbs ahead of for sure this year.
I think Bjean's the only one you can put in that.
I mean, Jonathan Taylor and James Cook are good too.
You can't forget them. The Colts running back of the
Bills running back, I don't think they're doing quite as
good as expected. I mean, you're doing real good. I'm
not sure like you know what I mean? Is that
fair to start that into the equation faded?
Speaker 2 (31:00):
For sure?
Speaker 3 (31:01):
I think down the stretch this season, like Cooks starting
to catch up with him rushing yards wise, Gibbs and
Bjeon Robinson bring so much to the table in the
passing game, and Gibbs especially. He might be the number
one back, but my number one player in this Big
three for the lines in his amazing stat a'man Ross
Saint Brown, the unbelievable wide receiver. He is the only player,
the only wide receiver in NFL history, to have ninety
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catches in every single one of his first five seasons.
Think of all the great receivers, every single one of
them that didn't do that, abesque, but Amy didn't even
accomplish that without the stupid and his rookie season.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
Ab didn't get ninety catch and all the kids, as
far as I know, t o Randy Moss, the list
goes on and on. I'm on Ross Saint Brown only one.
You know what the best thing about Amon Ross Saint
bron is that is a cool name. His name.
Speaker 3 (31:43):
Do you know his brother's name Equinamius. Oh my god,
it's perfect. Does he played ball? He did, Yeah, he
played for the Packers. I don't know if he's still
in the league or not.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
Oh, because I would put him on the team just
to have Equinimious and Amra. Yeah my god. What what
nationalities that I wonder? I don't there a Saint Bron.
I know there was a Saint Hubbins. That's a spinal tap.
Speaker 3 (32:04):
I'mon Ross sounds a little Egyptian, right Like? Doesn't that
sound like kind of like what a pharaoh would be called.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
I hate the stereotype. Tom.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
Sorry, No, a pharaoh would be called Mohammed Salah, the
Egyptian king.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
They are German, apparently, the Saint Browns, they are German
American professional football players.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
There can't be a Saint Brom. I'm just telling you
right now, this is what it's says.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
Literally, a Saint Bron, like we know there was like
a Saint Peter, you know, is there a Saint named Bron?
Speaker 2 (32:28):
I don't think. I don't think there is.
Speaker 3 (32:30):
I don't think they are his last Equanamius's last stop
was on the San Francisco forty nine ers practice squad, so.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
The Lions could snatch him up and pair him together.
I would love to be the PA announcer for the lines.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
I would say, Detroit touchdown, Ammon Ross, Saint Brown.
Speaker 3 (32:48):
Do you know he wears number fourteen too? Because fourteen
receivers were picked in front of him in the draft
year he went.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
He's so he's petty, Yes, Tom petty.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
By the way, do you see the Flyers announcer got
suspended because he made like a crack to a not
a female colleague, but a male colleague, because I guess
the guy ducked under the console to fix something. He said, hey,
while you're down there. He shouldn't be suspended for that.
Speaker 3 (33:11):
I don't mind the suspension a live thing, but he
just better not be fired.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
I don't think that that is a fireable offense at all.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
I think once you tell your employees they can't kit
around at all, it makes for a really bad workplace.
And then again, he does work for the Flyer, so
there's really no salvaging one oh five ninety x
Let's welcome aboard dot tom op From Tom, what's your
take on the LAO acquisition? To me, it's a good
first step, but I bet it's pretty much the only step.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
I'm shocked that they did anything.
Speaker 3 (00:11):
I was kind of reserving myself to them, just going
through this offseason and almost getting this player and almost
getting that player, and then signing some token guys to say, oh, look,
we did something.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
We tried.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
It's a little different from last year. So I'm impressed
that they actually were able to go out and swing this.
But you're a spot on with that analysis, Mark, This
has to be a first step. They're still probably about
two bats away in my estimation, from being legitimately a
playoff contender, and specifically speaking, they still have just a
massive hole at third base right now. Triolo cannot be
your starting third baseman. Well, could you move Gonzales there?
Speaker 2 (00:42):
I don't think he's the arm strength to play third base.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
I think he is really in a tough spot right now,
to be honest with you, But that's fine, because Gonzalez
isn't that great of a player.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
People overrate him.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
No, I agree, but I still think he's better than
some of the guys. At a great point, he's a
better bet than Triola.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
That's a great point.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
Yeah, Like, do you make glow the DA leave Gonzalez
at second or vice versa.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
So no mascot, no mascot cuts this year?
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Then, well, I think, And this is a conversation I
was gonna have, you know, maybe Monday once this sunk in,
because damn the Powers for making a deal right before
I go on the air.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
I had to redo preparation and that's not fun, Tom.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
I'd like to just kind of come in secure with
what I had planned to say since roughly a thirty
pm last night. Well, no, after the Penguin game, which
we'll get to in a moment. But yeah, I think
I think it would say a lot about their desire
to move forward if they move on without Cutch.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Yeah, I think so too. I think. I mean this
Magnum guy.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
I'm always gonna say Magnum, but it's Mangum.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
The inn comes before the GA.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Right right, and the stolen bases come before the power.
But but I mean, he's gonna get some at bats.
I just think they need to move on from Cutch
if they want to show us that they're serious and
not just a nostalgia act.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
Yeah, I mean, so you're gonna have Cruis and Reynolds
in your outfield and it's probably going to be this
Mangum and Password platooning in the other outfield spot. You'd think,
right like, that's what they would go with. And then hey,
what if I don't know, I know, you guys out
of a police and just speculating, and my point being is,
and then what if the other one plays so well
that you just want to put him at DH the
password just becomes the DH. Yeah, cuts it Cuts should
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be the odd man out. They should move on from
a Cutch. And I'm not sure yet they don't bring
him back on like a four or five million dollars
a year deal though one year deal.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
Will they promote Griffin no matter what? Will he be
in the opening day lineup, no matter what.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
If they make one more move for a bat, I
think they can hold off on that.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
Well, that's not what I said. I mean logically, in
his development, he shouldn't come up at all. He shouldn't
start the season in the Major.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
League even as it stands right now, even before they
got low, he shouldn't have been starting the season.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
I don't think.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
But I think they're gonna look the hype as much
as possible, get tickets sold early on you know, season
ticket packages, whatever, and I just think that's there. I
think they've intended to do that maybe dating back into
last season.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
It is so unlike them, though, I mean, they love
to manipulate that clock and service time and make sure
you get as much out of these products a possible,
So it would be bucking their usual trend big time.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
Where do you see them how many win team now
after having acquired Brandon Law.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
You're probably right, seventy five, seventy six something like that.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Can they hang in the playoff race for most of
the season.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
Though, depends on how you think the division looks like.
Do you think the Cubs will come back as strong
as they were last year? The Brewers were great in
the regular season last year, they just went on a
run in the second half. I think that they can
hang around, definitely be in it at the deadline right now,
but I just don't think they'll be able to push
through that August and September month to get into the
playoff race.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
Then I bet what they do is they start off
really hot and get people believing they can make the
playoffs and then just soil a bit, which brings us
to the Penguins, who have not lost seven in a row.
And we'll talk about them at length a bit later,
but just right now, to me, they mean four mila
at Ottawa. They were never in the game. It looked
like they quit. Muse looked as confused as Mike Johnston
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behind the bench, and I hate to say that's starting
to become more and more of a valid comparison to
my eyes. And it was pointed out to me this
morning that the Penguins no team really normally soils the
bit and quits on the dad's trip. But the dads
had to watch that last night. And I am told
that the locker room is really fuming over Jarry getting traded.
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Remember when they kind of went on strike when they
traded Jake a few years back and missed the playoffs
because of it.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
I'm told this may be a similar situation.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
Oh, because Jarry deserves that. Jarry deserves the Jake treatment.
It is crazy how much they overestimated him in that
own long.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
It is also crazy how much they just want the
gang to stick around, even a member of the gang
who didn't win a goddamn playoff series with the Penguins
in his ten years with the team.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
I mean, it's like a guy like said, is he
more in favor of keeping the gang around or is
he getting sick of missing the playoffs for three straight
years going on four. To be perfectly blunt, he wants
to have his cake and eat it too. Well, it's
not happening, and it's not gonna happen this year.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
Boy. I mean, I bet that was a surly group
of dads after the game last night. One dad I
can think of in particular. But yeah, it's just it
was just an excrement show last night. And they got
to get back to the plan. They got to get
Kindle on the top power play f Anthony Manton that
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watched up one needs some bitch. They got to get
Hine and back in Wilkeson, get Bras ups with the Penguins.
They screwed up Harrison Brunnick because they got that whiff
of maybe making the playoffs in their nostrils. Kyle needs
to go to Muse and make the plan get put
back in effect. And if Muse won't do it, screw you.
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You're fired.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
Part of that plant. Bruni comes back from juniors from Canada.
You play him every night, right like just or maybe
you know you do like more, you send them back
to the junior juniors.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
But you make a freaking decision.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
Yeah, he's got to play more than he is. And
that and who's is that?
Speaker 1 (06:00):
It?
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Tom?
Speaker 1 (06:00):
When it happened that that hot start would screw them up,
it would skew the plan.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
Me Mark Madden, the super genius. That's too.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
I'll throw another one in there that they have to do.
I think they got to get rid of she Lov's
and they got to bring Mirashov up, and they just
got to go with Skinner and Mirraschov moving forward and
let Merschov develop up or.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
If you want Moroschov to stay down there and develop.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
Joel blum Quist has been playing him up really well
in Wilkes. Just have him have like like one Quist
and morishof move back and forth once in a watch.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
Sure, why not just get she Loves the hell out
of here. He stinks. He's on a six game losing
streak mark. His safe percentage in the past four games
is seven eighty four.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
It's awful.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
A shooter tutor could do could do that well, and
having interviewed Chilofs probably have more personality one oh five
ninety x. On Twitter, a lot of people were big
en up Mike Burrows, who the pirates gave up in
this Brandon Loud deal? I mean, was he great? I
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never noticed it when he was here. I mean, who
he ever beats? But the love deal has the optimism
off the hook, off the hinge, with the usual suspects
and of course buck onation, and I still feel like
right now they're no better than a seventy five win team,
although I will say, if you can add another bat,
even if that's Connor Griffin, he turns out to be
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eighty percent of what he turns out to be for
the long run, I mean, that'll be enough support for
Skeens to maybe actually have a record over five hundred,
which I think Tom Skeins was over five hundred or
was he five hundred?
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Yes? What a great accomplishment.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
Uh Okay, here's my fearless prediction for the Steelers game
at Detroit. I think Detroitch's going to kill the Steelers
like thirty five seventeen. The Steelers can't slow down that
offense or keep up with that offense. I think tom
Win will make the mistake of trying to force a
rock fight early because he knows no other way, you know,
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try to win the possession game, try to win the
field position game, and it just has no chance of working.
And right now Detroit is out of the playoffs and
it gets really grim for the lines if they lose.
So there's more for them to lose than there is
for the Steelers. And I don't know how Detroit has
lost six games, just like I don't know how the
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Steelers have won seven games. I'm just dazed and confused.
And while the line secondary is beat up, their pass
rush might kill Aaron Rodgers. The big matchup to watch
there is going to be Troy Fautanu against Aiden Hutchinson
on that side of the line. So I think the
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Steelers can win this game if they wise up. I
just don't think Mike Tomlin has it within him to
play a different kind of game. I mean, he did
last year when they won the shootout with Cincinnati, or
I don't know, maybe Cincinnati forced that more than the
Steelers kept up with it, But I don't know. I
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just don't have a good feeling about this game. I
will say though, if the Steelers do win, the hero
will be the modern day warrior Jack Sawyer, who I
don't think is quite ready to be a starting edge
rusher in the NFL, but I think he might be
ready to do it on the day. I think adrenaline
might boost him and the extra snaps will be to
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his benefit because of that adrenaline and to the Steelers benefit.
Tom what is the Steelers' best bet to win this
game at Detroit?
Speaker 3 (09:34):
They definitely have to slow down Jamier Gibbs, Like that's
where it starts. But the problem with the Lions it's
kind of the same problem you face with the Bills, right,
And I think that's why you're saying you feel like
this could be a blowout, just like the Bills game was.
Is if you slow down a rushing attack, and they
didn't do this against the Bills, but if you slow
down Gibbs, they have a CounterPunch with Goff and Saint
Brown and Williams and Laporta have a really good passing
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game in that Detroit offense too, So similar to Buffalo,
it's like, okay, we stop the run in theory, but
Josh Allen could drop four hundred on our head and
still beat us. So it's tough for me to see them,
you know, coming up with you do this one thing
like you did against Miami equals victory.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
Yeah, no, I agree.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
It's one thing to put the game into his hands, Yes,
it's another to put the game in golf's hands.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
Who.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
Like we talked about yesterday, I think is is underrated.
I don't know if Detroutch's going to win a Super
Bowl with him, but I think he's done a great
job there peripherally, Tom, because it really matters. Who do
you like in that Ravens New England game? I know
New England has missed a lot of dbs, right, just
like the Lions are.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
Yeah, I kind of like the Patriots though in that game.
I'm not gonna lie, especially get they're getting three points
right now, Like I would definitely snatch that up. People
are overestimating the slide of the Patriots because of what
happened to Buffalo last week.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
Oh, no question. We talked about that yesterday.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
Ye yeah, they lost to Buffalo, blew the lead, but
they won ten in a row.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
Before that, and it was thirty five to thirty one.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
I'm not underestimating Baltimore being backed into a corner in
what pretty much much to a must win situation.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
I'm not either, but I said this yesterday too.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
On the surface, twenty four to nothing against Cincinnati and
Cincinnati looks like, oh, the Ravens are back. But then
you dig in and it's like Lamar didn't play that
great in that game, and the Bengals just reek of
a team that quit, and the quarterbacks talking to the
media and saying he quit. So it's tough to think
that they, you know, really showed a good, you know
fight in that game, and they're bouncing back. I think
the Patriots are going to beat the Ravens and they're
gonna put him in a really tough spot going to
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Lambo next week.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
I spoke to our Detroit Lions in nine to eleven
correspondent Kevin Nash this morning, who is on his way
to Pittsburgh for a convention at one of those cons
and we were talking about Baltimore and about John Harbaugh
and how he always got smarts himself. And he said,
and I agree, And this applies to the Steeler game,
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which the Steelers won despite not really deserving to. But
how can you not run Derrick Henry twenty times in
the first half in every game and break the other
team's will.
Speaker 3 (11:59):
Yeah, And then Derrick Henry is such a unique player
that you can do that strategy and then run him
twenty more times in the second half because he doesn't
wear down. In fact, he gets stronger statistically speaking, as
the seasons get later and as games get later. That
is a huge air that's going on right now with
the Ravens. For the past two years, they go out
and they get Derrick Henry and then they try to
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get away from him too much.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
I think part of it is they feel pressure to
make sure Lamar the MVP, gets his froze and his
carries and blah blah blah. But it's a different story
right now with him playing clearly dinged up.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
And also Lamar has his stats, he has his two MVPs.
For his legacy. Now it's about getting that Super Bowl ring.
It should be by any means necessary to cement him
as an all time great by getting him that ring.
And if you have to hand it off a thousand times,
handed off a thousand times, I.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
Gotta be honest.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
He's a two time MVP, but he ain't no all
time great.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
If he wins the super Bowl, he will for sure
be an all time great. He's already the greatest rushing
quarterback ever.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
He ain't gonna win a super Bowl? You don't think
so fair?
Speaker 1 (12:55):
He might not, And I think if he gets the
MVPs with no ring, I mean he's going to be
in the Hall of no doubt he will. But I
think people say, Okay, more evidence that kind of quarterback
really doesn't work.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
But I think it's wrong. I do. Okay, what quarterback
like that's won a super Bowl?
Speaker 3 (13:10):
I don't know, But like you think that that's a
bad quarterback to have you don't think you can win.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
I ask again, what kind of quarterback like that has
wan to see? What's his problem?
Speaker 3 (13:17):
Then he's the second best passer rating quarterback in the
past three years in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
He's great.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
I just think when you play good teams in the playoffs,
you need a pure, precise passer.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
He does that, not against good teams in big games. Okay, fine,
but he might. I think it's too early to write
that off completely. The Sirens song.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
Of the truly Despert Tom he might, no, and he's
really good I just I just think the playoffs or
a different story with the type of car, a different beast,
it's required.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
Josh Allen plays great in the playoffs too. He is
yet to get to a super Bowl. Needs to have
that happen.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
Uh. Yeah, I think he's a better passer. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
I don't know about that. I don't know that Josh
Allen's gonna win either or be an all time great.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
Then and if the Bills don't win this year with
Mahomes not there to be their bogie team the bow
quarterback with the Chiefs, then then it's if they don't
win this year, it's really on them.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
And honestly, applying that to Harbaugh and the Ravens, that
might be why I fire Harbaugh. I might look at
him and be like, dude, Mahomes was out and the
Steelers were the best team in the division and you
couldn't win it.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
I don't think they'll.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
I think Harbaugh doesn't have quite the job security of
Tom Win in Pittsburgh, but I think it's pretty close.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
The Ravens are like the Steelers in that sense, haven't
They only had three coaches in their iteration since being
in Baltimore Ravens. I think that's right. They had I
forget his name, who started it, Ran Billick. Brian Billick
was the second coach, and then he handed it right
off to Harbaugh.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
I think you're right.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
I think I think they see themselves in the same
mold I do, yeah, as the Steelers in terms of organizationally.
Here's here's something I heard today on the B team
and I didn't know how to how to how to
perceive it. Well, actually I do know how to perceive it.
It's their mindless optimism, the fanboys stuff. But they were
saying the Steelers are trending upward. Are the Steelers trending
upward or to just win a couple games in a row,
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because that there's a difference there, potentially just.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
Getting ahead of them themselves by one game. If they
beat the Lions, then yes they are trending upward. But
that hasn't happened, right.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
You know what I've been saying all week, went out
went out. If you want to be for real, you
want to be for real, you want to build legitimate momentum,
win out, and the schedule does not preclude winning out.
You can win a Detroit and the other two games,
I dare say they probably should win.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
Yeah, if you win, although.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
If the Baltimore game is winner take off of the division,
then it gets really tricky.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
It's diicy, it does if it's if they do win
this game in Sunday, I think they will win out
because I don't. I think Baltimore's gonna split, and I
think that they will make that game.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
If they If they win at Detroit, I do think
they win out. I think if they don't win at Detroit,
then the Week eighteen game does determine the division champion
and the playoff.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
Spot, and it goes to a Baltimore. I think Baltimore.
Baltimore wins at that point.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
They always split, right isn't that the cliche that Steelers
fans love the parade around at the beginning of the season.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
You're always split with Baldton. Not this time they won't.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
But yeah, I mean I think they should have lost
at Baltimore. I think the referees didn't give them the game.
How did I describe it then? That there were just
some unfortunate calls for the Ravens that all went the
Steelers way. They weren't necessarily bad calls. Except for the
call on roughing the long snapper. But you know the
other two calls could have easily gone against against Pittsburgh.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
But I don't feel like they're trending up.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
But I still feel like Rogers, the way he's playing
is is just above average and no better, like people
are lionized.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
And we got.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
A a sound bite later, who's it from from Mike McCarthy,
you know, admittedly Rodgers's old coach at Green Bay saying
how great Rogers was?
Speaker 2 (16:36):
I mean, was he great? Or was he like pretty good?
Speaker 3 (16:38):
He wasn't great, He was more pretty good. He's gonna
have to be great in Detroit though you're in a dome,
you know what I mean, no elements. You gotta rip
it up against that defensive back that's injured to the
defensive backfield. So he's got to have a great type
of performance, statistically great. Two seventy five, three touchdowns.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
I got to text tom and I texted back, who
is this? Somebody who said would I be early tomorrow?
And I'll be at Marino American Eatery for the Penguins game,
and then Sunday I'll be at celebrations in Imperial for
the Steelers Alliance and sticking around for some of that
Penguins game afterwards.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
But I didn't recognize it. I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
I texted back, who is this? And the text not
reason this is Josie? Is this Anna's new number? Would
like to invite you to a barbecue for tomorrow? Now, Tom,
what those are? Do you ever get text like that?
Speaker 3 (17:26):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (17:26):
I do sometimes.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
Okay, they're trying to catfish you, yes, exactly, trying to
get you to, you know, give them some kind of
information or you know, like try to liaise with them,
and then you know, they threaten to embarrass you as
a result. Yes, And I am way too smart for that,
although it really couldn't hurt the caller back.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
One O five to nine The X.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
Tomorrow nights, the Pens go head to head against the Canadians.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
Game time is seven.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
Our coverage starts at six here every game and the
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Speaker 2 (17:56):
One five nine the X.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
Pellets. We'll face the toughest job interview in face Joe, Tom,
I gotta ask, what's the biggest story today? The Pirates
acquiring Brandon Law from Tampa. Previewing Steelers Detroit or the
Penguins having lost their seventh in a row last night
and looking like they quit.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
I think it actually should be Steelers in Detroit.
Speaker 3 (18:22):
I know the Loo thing has a lot of people excited,
but we got a long time between now and the
baseball season starts.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
And do you agree it ends with him being traded
in July?
Speaker 3 (18:31):
Yeah, if they're out of it, or even do you
think there's any chance he reopts.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
No, there's no chance he reopts.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
And unless by some miracle they do go to the
playoffs and make a round.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
Now, from that standpoint, I give them credit for trading,
even for rental, because schemes might just have the one
year here. Maybe they're doing this year what they should
have done, you know, last year and the year before,
every year they had Paul Skins. And by getting this
guy in a trade where he couldn't say no, he
didn't have that that, you know, right, every fus I'm
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assuming because I would refuse. But but now you've layed
groundwork where free agents might think, Okay, these guys maybe
are serious. In the short term anyway, maybe you get like,
what did you see Bellinger wants something?
Speaker 2 (19:16):
But by the same forty million or something. Yeah, but
here's the thing.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
If the powers were serious, Well, the thing is if
he wants that, you'd give that the skemes and he'd
say no to just like Bellinger wud.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
I know there's still in a tough spot.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
They are, but there are some guys out there, some
fringe players that now I think you can fill out
this lineup with, like a Michael Confordo who was with
the Dodgers last year, costs like eight million dollars pay him.
You really want to talk throw twenty million at a
you Hennio Suarez. That's going to be an overpay for him,
but that fills your third base spot, and he hit
over forty home runs last year.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
I don't disagree that.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
In fact, if I had to say one move they
should make that, I'm not sure it's makable because again
I'm not sure anybody wants to come here.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
Yes, but the move is to overpay swats.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
Yeah, absolutely, I think the spot track told me like
fourteen fifteen is what they're expecting him to get on
a per year. BA twenty twenty one million would absolutely
make him come here, even if he didn't want to come.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
If you added Suadez and at him and Lao in
the middle of the lineup.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
And let's say you win the gamble by promoting Connor
Griffin at that age, you could make the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (20:13):
Are we pulling the plug on Reynolds and Cruz too
that there's no like turnaround for Reynolds this year or
Cruz actually turns into something decent?
Speaker 2 (20:20):
What I mean, you're talking about trading him?
Speaker 1 (20:21):
No? No, No.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
As far as in the lineup, how they fit with
that what you're saying.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
I think if they're protected by better bats, they would
be better.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
And here I am being optimistic. Well, I think that
applies to Reynolds. I don't know about Cruz.
Speaker 3 (20:33):
I just Cruz just went so hard in the tank
at the end of last season, didn't finish under the
Mendoza line or really close to it.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
He was flirting with it. I just don't know if
he'll ever come around.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
Now. Well, here's the thing about him. I think he's
really stupid, true, and I don't think he cares very much.
I think he got his money. You know, he could
afford to buy the entire Dominican Republic. I just think
he has achieved what he wants in baseball.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
Already.
Speaker 3 (20:54):
He probably wants just like very Polanco esque, probably wants
to play short stops too. Still, right like, if he
had his way, he would probably still want to be
a shortstop and playing.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
I'm surprised he didn't rebel in that regard. I mean,
after after he proved to not be any more comfortable
in center field.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
It is still a pretty glamorous position, right Like, It's
not like they moved him into right field.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
I don't care. It's not short But I'm just saying.
Speaker 3 (21:14):
You asked me a question.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
No, no, no, no, no, I mean I don't I mean,
I'm not gonna I don't know what's a glamorous position
in baseball. I mean, Willie May's paid center field that.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
Joe Mickey Mantle. I know.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
I don't think it's put it this way. I don't
think it's any less glamorous position than shortstop.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
That's what I'm saying though, So maybe that's why he
didn't rebel, because it was like, Okay, I'm still kind
of in a big time spot, just in the outfield,
not in the infield.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
Is he due for arbitration? O'Neal Cruz, they signed him,
they locked him up. Yeah, that's right, But no, what
are you sure about that.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
I'm looking up his spot track right now to see
when that deal. I don't know they ate into some
of them.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
And if I sound confused, it's because I don't talk
about baseball hardly ever, and really don't care. Tom. While
you're looking that up, let's let's talk Penguins. Last night
was bad. Did it looked to you like the Penguins quit?
It looked to me like they didn't even start like.
It looked at me like from the beginning of the game,
they just didn't have any jumper. You'd expect them to
get shot out of a cannon trying to end a
six game losing streak against the team that is not
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that good in Ottawa.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
And it just was flat from the start of the game.
It was very surprising to see that.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
Is Dan muse in over his head. He looks befuddled.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
He reminded me seriously of Mike Johnston, who had a
brief stint as Penguins coach, a first NHL head coaching job,
almost certainly his last.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
He's back. I think in junior a.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
Mus looked confused and I think he's gotten away from
the plan for this season, whether on his own behest,
whether it's with Dubas's approval, which I got, I think
Dubis needs to straighten him out.
Speaker 3 (22:42):
I mean, the honeymoon portion was great right the first
month and a half with me.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
But I think the honeymoon I think the honeymoon portion
when they started out so hot and had like the
best ruger in Eastern Conference, I think that was fool's
gold obviously, and I think it got them off course
for what they should be doing.
Speaker 3 (22:58):
Which is so weird because they were leaning into what
they should be doing that provided the fools gold start.
So why would you change course? Why wouldn't you just
keep leaning into that and say, hey, maybe we keep
getting lucky and it keeps working out.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
Well, what they gotta do is you gotta go with
kids and music isn't not enough Like friggin' Mantha on
the top power play, not Kendall, who's their best power play?
Guy Heinen in Pittsburgh Bros. At Wilkes Brunick's year getting mangled.
You know, I just I just think right now, in
terms of that sort of decision, forget about what's actually
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happening on the ice, But in terms of decision making
with the roster and deployment.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
How many mistakes are they making? Let me comp the ways?
Too many? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (23:38):
Absolutely, The buttons just start being pushed. We said that yesterday.
He's not finding a good touch right now and the
league's pushing back on him after his hot start. He
has no answers, and we said yesterday too, are you
too far away from getting into you know, bottom five,
bottom six positioning? Keep losing five or six more in
a row and we can start talking right What if
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they get.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
Swept in the home and home with Montreal on Saturday Sunday.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
If you get swept, I wonder what happens. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (24:07):
Do you fire him? Is it too early to pull
that trigger? And what's the means there? I guess you
would fire him just because he's not leaning into development
like you wanted him to, Like that would be your
main reasoning.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
I think at that point you'd fire him because he
lost nine straight. Losing nine straight is unacceptable. Like I said,
he looks confused, the team looks like they quit And
as you heard me say a little bit ago, Tom,
I'm told the room is upset because Jari got traded.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
Like when Jake got traded.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
That room and this includes everybody in it needs to
get the f over itself. Yate won a playoff series
since twenty eighteen. Yate made the playoffs in three years.
You're a bad hockey team. Figure it out and don't
pop because you don't have the right too. You're not
entitled to it.
Speaker 3 (24:46):
Hearing that if I'm doing this and I say other
room's not taking it, well, that actually might encourage me
more if they continue this slide, to move a rust,
to move a raquel, to blow the room up even more,
to be like, if you're gonna be this soft when
I make trades like this, forget that room.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
I don't want that rum.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
I think the intent was to at least investigate that
in the off season of Paper Soon scared Kyle, we'll
talk about how Sid needs to be in the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
So he kept both of his line mates instead of
shipping one of them off. Yeah, it just just I mean.
Speaker 3 (25:11):
Carlson's got to be traded now too, kind of for
the same reason why Jarry needed to be trade.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
He's starting to fade, he's started to get backs.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
You gotta get him out of here. While there's probably
some still value.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
What about getting slaughter on the dad's trip, Tom, that
that almost never happens. The kids usually up the annie
when the dads are there. They clearly did not last night.
I mean, sorry dad. Do you think they got a
tongue lashing when they went back to the hotel? Like
kind of like a throwback to the.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
I don't know what kind of women these guys meet
on the.
Speaker 3 (25:36):
Road, Tom, Uh, you have seen mister deeds when the
dad takes off the belt when he uses foul language.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
Do you think that was happening to the player?
Speaker 1 (25:43):
You know, I thought about this the other day because
I watch Uncut Gems over and over, Yeah, which I
think is one OF's best movies. I thought, funny people
like the ones that are semi drama with comedy stirred in.
I think he found kind of a niche. However, accidentally,
he's got chops there, no doubt. Yeah, yeah, but but
I you know, I've seen relatively few Sandler movies there.
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He got in a jag where a lot of them
just weren't pretty good. Although he hasn't disappeared and done
bad product like Will Ferrell has in the past.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
When's the last good Will Ferrell movie. That's the thing.
Like Adam Sandler at least hasn't faded, you know what
I mean. Like Adam Adam a huge talent. No even
like I've watched grown Ups years after the fact. It's funny.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
They're formulaic with all the like you know, his cronies,
but they're okay, yeah, there is. You're right, that's a
good way to put it because of who's in it,
and because the storyline is real simple and it's it's
nostalgia based. The charm is definitely there. I'll say this,
here's how bad Will Ferrell's been for long enough. Yeah,
I'm beginning to wonder if he was ever any good
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in the first place, and if we overrated his body
of work.
Speaker 3 (26:47):
I think he was pretty good on Saturday Night Live.
I think his movie career took off to a different
level with the McKay team up, and now that he
has divorced himself from Adam McKay.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
You just starting to wonder who made who I think.
Speaker 3 (26:59):
Movie wise, like Superstar wise, I think Adam McKay had
a lot to do with that.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
There's no question, Okay.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
I think we've concluded that the big story today is
not the acquisition of Brandon Law, or the Penguins losing
seven in a row or the Steelers in line Sunday.
It is indeed the trajectory of Will Ferrell's career.
Speaker 3 (27:19):
Do you want to know about o'nel Cruiz's arbitration. He
is due arbitration this year. Three point twenty five mil
is the estimate. I thought, so, yeah, you were right.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
Well, three point two five mil for his talent is
actually reasonable.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
It's not bad for his performance. It's actually overpaying.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
It is I just like I'd get I'd trade him
before people figure out that.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
It just just is what he is.
Speaker 3 (27:41):
Especially coming off of that derby, right, because the national
perspective is like, wow, look at what he did in
the home run derby. O'Neal Cruiz is awesome. That's what
people on the West Coast think of him, who pitched
him in a home run derby.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
As some pitching coach for the Pirates. I think because
I'd have beaned him. One oh five nine the X
from the Dollar Energy Fund Weather Center. This report is
for genuine We're gonna.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
See this hour of the show brought to us by Shnderovi,
Shenderovich and Fishmen. They only charge twenty five percent. Everybody
else charges forty. I think forty is just screwing you
to the wall. And Shndrovia Shendrorovis and Fishermen are the
only lawyers out there who care. But that's just me
(28:23):
well them and Saul Goodman, who is not available locally.
And I think if we follow the storyline, God will
still be in prison.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
There's a new Tom. Have you heard? Were you Better
Calls off?
Speaker 1 (28:33):
In?
Speaker 3 (28:33):
Nah?
Speaker 2 (28:33):
Didn't watch Breaking Bad, So I didn't watch Better Call Saw?
Speaker 1 (28:36):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (28:36):
Because there's there's one what's it called?
Speaker 1 (28:39):
Uh? Vince Gilligan who did those two series, has one
featuring Ray Seahorn, who is a big part of Better
Call Saw?
Speaker 2 (28:45):
But I forget what's called porbus?
Speaker 3 (28:46):
Maybe it has nothing to do with No, No, no, it's
not in our same character.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
No.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
I like today's show, you know why because the lile
trade and the penguins soiling the bed on the Dad's
trip gave us a lot to pick from the converse about,
aside for the usual your hint cause Steelers are gonna win.
With that in mind, let's go to the trifecta. Tom,
What do you got?
Speaker 2 (29:07):
Yeah? Perfect?
Speaker 3 (29:08):
With that in mind, so I've got stats on each
one of the Lions Big three that really puts into
perspective how historically great they've been so far.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
To quote David sat Hubbins, maybe too much effing perspective.
Speaker 3 (29:20):
Number three, I'll go with Aiden Hutchinson, their best player
on defense. He's the first player since sacks have been
tracked in nineteen eighty two to have thirty five plus
sacks and five plus interceptions in his first four career seasons.
So he gets it done, not just sacking the quarterback.
He'll drop back and coverage and pick you off. Hutchinson
has that many picks.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
Five plus picks.
Speaker 3 (29:39):
So he's better than what right now, without question, he's
better than all they stabbed what In the long of course,
this is going to be better now. He actually kind
of reminds me a bit of what like back when
Watt was in his prime, where he could do that
kind of things like drop but not getting stabbed in
the lung right back before a lot.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
Isn't that amazing that that hasn't been made a bigger
deal out of them they stabbed him in the lung, He's.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
Just kind of brush right over, oh whatever where without.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
I still love that he was at like the Christmas
function for the Steelers. Look he's getting better. It wasn't
an effing lung x rayu Marks. Okay, what else?
Speaker 3 (30:08):
Number two Jamiir Gibbs, the Lions star running back. He
and Barry Sanders are the only players in league history
with twelve hundred plus scrimmage yards and ten plus touchdowns
in their first three seasons, and they all each accomplished
that before turning twenty four. Gibbs, here's a bonus. One
fifty two career touchdowns, has the most touchdowns of any
player in NFL history before turning twenty four. Or do
(30:29):
you rank him currently among the NFL running backs? He's
no lower than three. He might be one. You could
probably make the case for him at number one. Him,
Bijon definitely right there.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
One.
Speaker 3 (30:38):
Two's having a little bit of a down year this year.
Speaker 1 (30:41):
Oh, I'd rank Gibbs ahead of for sure this year.
I think Bjean's the only one you can put in that.
I mean, Jonathan Taylor and James Cook are good too.
You can't forget them. The Colts running back of the
Bills running back, I don't think they're doing quite as
good as expected. I mean, you're doing real good. I'm
not sure like you know what I mean? Is that
fair to start that into the equation faded?
Speaker 2 (31:00):
For sure?
Speaker 3 (31:01):
I think down the stretch this season, like Cooks starting
to catch up with him rushing yards wise, Gibbs and
Bjeon Robinson bring so much to the table in the
passing game, and Gibbs especially. He might be the number
one back, but my number one player in this Big
three for the lines in his amazing stat a'man Ross
Saint Brown, the unbelievable wide receiver. He is the only player,
the only wide receiver in NFL history, to have ninety
(31:21):
catches in every single one of his first five seasons.
Think of all the great receivers, every single one of
them that didn't do that, abesque, but Amy didn't even
accomplish that without the stupid and his rookie season.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
Ab didn't get ninety catch and all the kids, as
far as I know, t o Randy Moss, the list
goes on and on. I'm on Ross Saint Brown only one.
You know what the best thing about Amon Ross Saint
bron is that is a cool name. His name.
Speaker 3 (31:43):
Do you know his brother's name Equinamius. Oh my god,
it's perfect. Does he played ball? He did, Yeah, he
played for the Packers. I don't know if he's still
in the league or not.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
Oh, because I would put him on the team just
to have Equinimious and Amra. Yeah my god. What what
nationalities that I wonder? I don't there a Saint Bron.
I know there was a Saint Hubbins. That's a spinal tap.
Speaker 3 (32:04):
I'mon Ross sounds a little Egyptian, right Like? Doesn't that
sound like kind of like what a pharaoh would be called.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
I hate the stereotype. Tom.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
Sorry, No, a pharaoh would be called Mohammed Salah, the
Egyptian king.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
They are German, apparently, the Saint Browns, they are German
American professional football players.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
There can't be a Saint Brom. I'm just telling you
right now, this is what it's says.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
Literally, a Saint Bron, like we know there was like
a Saint Peter, you know, is there a Saint named Bron?
Speaker 2 (32:28):
I don't think. I don't think there is.
Speaker 3 (32:30):
I don't think they are his last Equanamius's last stop
was on the San Francisco forty nine ers practice squad, so.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
The Lions could snatch him up and pair him together.
I would love to be the PA announcer for the lines.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
I would say, Detroit touchdown, Ammon Ross, Saint Brown.
Speaker 3 (32:48):
Do you know he wears number fourteen too? Because fourteen
receivers were picked in front of him in the draft
year he went.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
He's so he's petty, Yes, Tom petty.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
By the way, do you see the Flyers announcer got
suspended because he made like a crack to a not
a female colleague, but a male colleague, because I guess
the guy ducked under the console to fix something. He said, hey,
while you're down there. He shouldn't be suspended for that.
Speaker 3 (33:11):
I don't mind the suspension a live thing, but he
just better not be fired.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
I don't think that that is a fireable offense at all.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
I think once you tell your employees they can't kit
around at all, it makes for a really bad workplace.
And then again, he does work for the Flyer, so
there's really no salvaging one oh five ninety x
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