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ahead of time. Email show atkmod dot com. There's a story coming
out of Claremore, Claremore, clareClaremore, and it's the headline alone is

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bizarre. But when I tell youthe details of the story, you'll go
what. So the headline is ClaireMoore man arrested for hosting party for nearly
two hundred underaged people. Yeah,I mean like five, I'm the cool

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mom, right, two hundred?Sure, bring all your friends ahead of
a vocahole school over. I don'tcare. Come all. So the police
went out to this guy's property becausethere was a report of gunshots. They
got there, they didn't find agun or anybody injured. They did find
showcasings and there were over two hundredkids partying, drinking, some who were

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even drunk. And they were asyoung as fourteen and as old as it
says, in their twenties. Okay, two fourteen and twenty one year olds
hanging out? Nope, not cool, don't even understand it. Nope.
Like if I went to a houseand there was someone fourteen who wasn't like

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a brother, right or a sister, I'd be like, I'm out this.
This won't end well, and Idon't want to landing on my I
don't want none of that smoke.But this is where it gets really weird.
So this guy was charging five dollarseach to get in. Okay,
you're at the old man's house.Five dollars all you can drink. You

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got old man right, sixty eightyears old. Wow. And when the
police got there, they found himin a bedroom of the home and he
was sitting in a chair while twoyoung people were embracing on the bed.
He says he was watching TV,but according to Deaths, the TV wasn't

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on. He was just watching theTV live version. He told them around
seven girls had been in the room. What debuty said, liquor and beer
bottles were found in the property,and that the young people paid five dollars
to get in. They had comefrom all over the state. Huh,

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thank you, huh interresting. Thatmeans it was planned and like widely distributed,
right, Like I'm sure like aFacebook post or something. Surely apparently
he had been rested in July forthe same thing, and that, yeah,
like that's not a surprise. Yeah, there's no way to You don't

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get two hundred people on your firstgo no, no, no, no,
no, no, no, especiallyif they came from all over the
state, right right, Right,So that probably started off a lot smaller,
probably like fifty people or so.Fifty two children, and then the
word got out there like man,old Man Thomas throws ragers. Man,
we need we need to get everybodyinvolved in them, make it the biggest

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party of the year. How didthey find old man Thomas? That's that's
a good question. That's for me. I want to know how the sausage
is made here, Like how didhow did these kids find out about it?
How did he? How did thesekids get connected to this old man?
Was he the softball coach? Whois he? Right? He's sixty

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eight, so the chance him stillbeing involved in the school system or whatever
very very small, right, right, His youngest kids could be in their
twenties. And maybe that's the casethere is because you said there were people
there in their early twenties, somaybe it was one of their kids,
because to me, it seems thatcould be plausible, right totally. Old

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man is like you know, theapple doesn't fall far from the tree if
you see what if you go feelwhat I'm going with here? Right,
So it's like crazy old man hasall the two hundred kids at his house,
one of his youngest is in theirearly twenties. There their cheese is
almost off the cracker anyway, hangingout with these younger kids, and it
just spirals out of control from there. I mean, not everything bad that

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happens is some sort of mister Boone'splanning thing, right, I know that,
But this feels really awkward. Soit could be as simple as old
man lonely. But then that's thepart where I like, how did they
get connected to the old man?Is it their grandchild and their grandchild's like
if you buy me beer and thenyou know that it funneled that way and

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then other thing you know, itis, you know, snowballed into you
young kids? Kiss on my bed? Now you kiss her? Rich?
Is he like some big name andimplying in the Claremore area does he have
from giant house? I don't evenknow what that means. I don't even
know what that means because to thesekids, yes, because he has a

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house, right, he has land, right, But I don't know what
that means to be rich. Areyou implying that they that rich people?
Were young kids? In? No? But I mean like, are they
taking advantage of the lonely guy witha lot of money? Like, let's
use his house, it's the houseparty. It doesn't well it's not clear
if he what he paid for theyhad to pay to get in, Yeah,
which tells me that this is thisis scheming. Yeah, this isn't

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like, come hang out with me. I'm lonely, not at all.
We're having a we're having a keggerand it's just gonna cost you five dollars
to get in. All you candrink dada da. I gotta make up,
gotta recoup some of the costs fromthe beers if he's buying the beers.
It didn't say he provided the alcohol, right and five dollars ahead two

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hundred He got his bond money rightthere? Yeah right, mum, I
want to link because I'm right therewith you. Man, I'm still in
custody on a two thousand dollars bond. Okay, so he's still in jail,
which which good. But five dollarstwo hundred, I mean he got
a lot of money there. Yeahhe did. Yeah, he did,

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unless the cops confiscated it because heis I don't think they can do that.
I don't know how that works out. I don't know. I don't
think that works that way. I'venever hosted a party for two hundred under
each kids and got busted on theon the social host law right, nor
have I nor have I been toa party with two hundred plus kids and
an old man. It also couldbe like he had twenty one year olds

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hanging out, right, that's kindof where I'm at, which is also
weird, and they're not illegal.And then it slid away into fourteen year
old. But again, if theycame from all across the state, this
was planned, this wasn't Hey,let's drive to Claremore right from Purcell,
right, el Reno or whatever?Yeah, yeah, I hear all over

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the state. I amactically Lawton,guymon right right the furthest pointever, yeah,
right right, when they all couldjust be around this miama ah right
right, Henrietta Right, You getone from Oklahoma City and it's like they
came from across the state. Okay, So how far does it have to
be then to constitute that statement?Right? To me? This is light

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mail, right right? If youcame from Bristow, does that count as
all over the state going to Claremorefrom Bristow? I don't think so Oklahoma
City for sure? For sure?Yeah? So thirty more minutes, yeah,
yeah, I mean, if youthink about it. That's you know
what another another forty five fifty miles. I mean, it isn't all over

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implies multiple cities of great distance,right, I'm thinking at least four corners,
the four corners. Yeah, you'vegot to have somebody from Yeah,
I mean, you don't need tobe a border city. No, but
no. But if you if youlive in western Oklahoma, off in the
Panhandle, if you're driving from thePanhandle to Claremore to go to a party

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at an old man's house, that'sfrom across. So I think if that
was my kid and I lived inthe Panhandle and my kid drove to Claremore
I to go to a party inan old man's house, I'd be like,
what's going on? Right? Wheredid I fail you as a parent?
Yeah? Like what why is it? You do what you do?
Why? What? What is theenticing part is it? Was it the

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old man? Was it the drive? Right? No? No, it
was the five dollars all you candrink? Bro if that's if we don't
know that absolutely yeah, yeah thatfrom my understanding, just based on the
article, it was just to getin, Oh good god, five dollars
entry fee. That would be likewhat you could party on a gravel road

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for free and not drive because yougotta come back. By the way,
if I would have found out whileyou were driving, you'd lose your car.
I would take your car from you. Yeah, the kids get grounded
still now days still think you saythat was very much certainty. Oh yeah,
I just grounded some last week.Yeah right, why do you where

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do you base that off of?Well, I mean, I we've grounded
our kid from his phone. Yeah, but your kid's not. He's just
entering that age of like being ableto drive and being around people who drive,
and going to do things without mammyand pappy. I have friends who
ground their kids. They can't usetheir car, they can't go anywhere.

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Yeah. Yeah, I don't haveanybody in that group, So that's why
I'm asking. Yeah, I meanI didn't. I didn't really ground my
kids. You don't don't get togo anywhere. Da da da da.
I just take their phones and stuffaway from the stuff that really hurts on
the most. Yeah, they're videogame games and phones like tronic stuff like
he of course, my kids reallydidn't go anywhere either, So I'm like,
oh, I'm gonna ground you fromleaving the house. You don't,

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I'm gonna ground you from video games. I don't play video games. H
huh, that's right, and youeither. You never will. Yeah,
I hear you. Like, whyground them if they don't leave? Yeah,
exactly, So you just take theirstuff away, And grounding is also
a punishment on you, right,you're stuck with them. Anytime I got
grounded, I was like, you'recrowded for a month. And it'd be

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like maybe two weeks in and myparents are like, all right, you're
good. Oh yeah, you can'tback out of that. Yeah, you
got hold the line. All right, you've been good. I think we
can get you an early release whenit all reality, are like, get
this mother effort out of my house. I am tired of looking at him.
If I was grounded, I wasthe maid for however long. That
was my punishment. I mean Ihad to clean everything. You didn't normally

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have to clean up after yourself,well after myself, yes, and my
choralists got extremely long, right rightright now you just take out the trash,
you know, but now you're cleaningthe entire kitchen. Yeah. Now
I'm doing my bathroom in their bathroom. Yeah, yeah, I don't.
I don't know what that'll look likefor me if I'm gonna make them do
cleaning, right, you're I alreadywant you participating in the house. Sure,

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right, Yeah, you just gotyard duty now too, unless they
really like it, and then you'relike, all right, you don't get
to cut the grass anymore. ButI really like cutting grass. And then
what if they're really good at it? Can you just clean all the time?
Yeah? I can't wait for youto get in trouble start setting them
up. Yeah, yeah, I'vebeen framed. It wasn't mean house party.

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I don't know what that'll look like. I guess take TV away,
Yeah, that's what I found.Word works the best. Especially their phones.
Oh they love their phones, ohso much. You got everything they
need right there on their phones,television, games, friends, You take
that little piece of plastic away that'smine. Oh when they go crazy?

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Yeah, but doesn't the same thingapply to that like it does about your
parents shortening your sentence? What doyou mean by that? Well, like
you go, you take it away, but then they're just being annoying and
you give the phone back. Well, you tell them shut the hell up
and go to their room. Butyour parent. I'm using your example that
your parents didn't do that, Sodoesn't the sentence get shortened for me?
It didn't. No, No,you're grounded for two weeks. I'm taking

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this phone away for two weeks ora lot of it was over grades,
right, And that's how I gotthose kids of mine when they were with
me, to keep at least asee average seeing. That's all I wanted,
a seeing above. I don't wantany d's in any ass. And
I as soon as I saw acouple of days or some fs on there
on the report card, you giveme that phone and you're not getting it

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back until that grade gets back upto a sea minimum. And they'd bring
it back up. All right,Well it took you a week or two
however long it took, but theyfinally got it back up. Yeah,
here you go. And because theywere like you took the phone away,
as like they weren't focusing and theywere just doing that or yeah, it
was just it was a form ofpunishment to let them know that, hey,

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I take this seriously, and ifyou can't do your part, then
you're not. I'm taking away whatyou love the most, you know what
I mean? So I knew.That's where it hit them hard, right
here on their little electronic Yeah,I don't know where I am with that
on grades and you should do wellright not until high school, right,
absolutely, And that's what these kidswere at middle school high school. It

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wasn't elementary school or anything like ayeah you know what I mean elementary kids.
I mean take away the PlayStation.Yeah, that was the thing.
But even then it was like,Okay, they're great. I didn't push
really hard. It was in highschool and I was like, all right,
I don't want season because when Igot them, these kids had missed
fifty something days of school and theywere all d's and apps like maybe one

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see on the report card, andI sat, we're changing that, and
we did and it worked out.Did your parents ever punish you for grades?
Me, both of you? Yes. I got punished one time for
grades because I was in fifth grade. I had a I had a teacher

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that I did not like in fifthgrade, and she was she was kind
of um well, she was abitch to be honest, I mean out.
She would call me out. Iwas very like you see, like
when we do cooked, I getsuper uncomfortable, like with the questions and
stuff. And I've always been likethat. In front of the class,

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she would call you up to theblackboard and questions and I've always been a
bad test taker. Well. Shewould ask questions that she knew a lot
of us wouldn't know the answer to. And when we would say, could
you break it down for us andexplain it, she would say, no,
plain and simple, no figure itout in front of us, and

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it would be embarrassing. And Iwasn't the only one that she would do
it too. And if you wouldask for a house, she was very
tough and in and in math,I never light just never clicked on for
me in math, and I wouldask her for help and I would say,
I don't understand this. Well payingattention, I am paying attention.

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I don't get it. I hearyou. But like the idea of a
teacher calling you out or being toughon you, to me, isn't doesn't
make them a bit. She justmakes them, you know, a hard
teacher like Gimbi's said before, hedidn't like his principle because he held him
account He held Gibby accountable. Butwhen she when, but when she blatantly
says, well, are you stupid? Okay, yeah, that sounds a
bit. Yeah. Yeah, thatwas a different time, Yeah, exactly,

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but I'm not lying. It's true. Yeah, but there was during
a I had a D in herclass, and my dad went in there
with a parent teacher conference and onthe back of my test, I had
just drawn a bunch of pictures becausethen I explained to him, because I
don't understand I don't understand the material, that's why I drew pictures on the

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back of my test. She goes, and that's why she got a D.
Yeah, right, you got toput in some kind of effort,
Yeah, I said, Well,I answered what I could and the rest
of it I didn't understand. Idrew pictures too. Yeah, it sounds
like you deserved a D. Yeah, absolutely, I get it. Yeah,
but I said to her. I'vegone to her many times. And
I explained that to my dad too, and he didn't. He didn't accept

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that. What about your what aboutyou can be get in trouble for grades?
Not not really if looking back,I mean, I I didn't really
get in trouble for grades. I'vealways got in trouble for other super stuff,
but when it came to grades,because I was a band nerd.
If your grades slipped below you wereineligible, you couldn't you couldn't go to

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competition. It's much like football,basketball, stuff like that. You're ineligible,
you can't play, right, Andmy parents knew that. That hurt
me a lot because I enjoyed,a thoroughly enjoyed going to those competitions and
stuff like that. So I thinkthey were more like, all right,
well, I mean you can clearlysee he's hating this right now. And
then I've my grades back up atleast a passing level and everything was good.

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Yeah. I don't remember getting introuble. I saw my brother get
in trouble for grade, so maybethat set the bar, the note I
don't want none of that. Umyeah, the only thing they ever I
remember. I have resentment towards myparents on with punishment was doing like extracurricular
things and then forcing me to practiceand forcing me to do like orchestra stuff,

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right, and me being like,if I didn't want to do it,
like, forcing me to practice feltodd. You signed up for it.
Yeah you're gonna ride this donkey out? Yeah, no, for sure.
I never quit, like I didn'twant to give up. But it
was you forcing me to practice rightwhere me. I'm like, listen,
if you want to go up thereand look like a fool, that's on

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you. Yeah, you're the onethat's got to live with that. Maybe
there was, you know, someembarrassment totally on your parents, and they're
not gonna embarrass me in this right. It's Mike, get up there.
Yep, he's last year. Yeahhe sounds like a sack of drowning cats.
Yeah. Yeah, but it hardlycarries weight over into your adult life

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unless it's you know, punished.You punish them to do it right,
Like nobody goes man, I'm soglad my parents made me practice to be
fifth chair, right, right,it doesn't matter. Well, don't they
have to buy the instrument and everythingelse. I probably feel like they're investing.
They want you to investors. Yeah, but I didn't sign up promising
to be the best. Right yousign up to play. I'm a kid,

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I'm eight. I don't know what'shappening. You're gonna get out there
and be the best damn fiddler ever? Right? You in loons? All
right? You make Charlie Daniels yourbitch. Right, Some kids have it.
Some kids don't man, right,I don't care. If you're a
dork and you're not strong, youget out there, you tackle the big
sky on the field. No,you didn't do that? All right?

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We got tickets to Molly cruon defLeppard we're gonna give away. Plus we've
got Jeff Hensley joining us when wecome back. News Quickies The Big Man
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you say, what the Here's CorbynGibby m Lindsay with what's going on?
News quicks from The Big Man MorningShowing ninety seven five kmod Giant rodents pumped
with steroids and sold as poodles forone hundred and fifty bucks in Brazil.
An unidentified man of Katacarma, Argentinaspent one hundred and fifty dollars on what

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he believed to be gorgeous toy poodlesbut turned out to be ferrets pumped with
steroids. Yeah, the individual wasduped by the knockdown price for a pedigree
dog and became suspicious he had boughtwhat Argentinians called a Brazilian rat, and
when he returned home took the dogsto a vet for their vaccinations. He

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had, in fact purchased two ferretsthat had been given steroids at birth to
increase their size, and then hadsome extra grooming to make their coats resemble
a fluffy toy poodle, and thatconfirmed his suspicions. It comes as social
media users have debated back and forthover the saga of the fake sun Bear
in China, which has caused somestir online. The incident in Argentina was

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part of a wider occurrence which sawgullible bargain hunters at the country's largest bazaars
been hundreds of dollars for what theybelieved to be these gorgeous toy poodles,
only to discover that they bought ferretspumped with steroids. They're not cute,
they don't look like poodles. Tome. You know, they totally look
like ferrets. They look like figretswith afros. Yeah, long haired ferrets.

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Could hear that yours? Oh yeah, I could tease it. I
could tease their hair and poop itout like that for sure. Not like
uh yeah, when you go toany fair, you gotta be careful.
Yeah, any in flea market,any type of scenario, like merchant thing.
You have no idea. There's novalidity with those people, right,
They're just selling stuff. They're justmerchants. Um. It's like when people

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buy sugar gliders. I'm like,what are you doing? Yeah, don't
buy those. They are cool though, they are always one the one as
a kid. You should get onefor your kids. Nope, he's sitting.
Nope. No, no animals inmy house. I'm the only animal
in my house. A quotes Texaswoman attacked by snake and a hawk.

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Uh. There's this gal. Shelives just outside of Beaumont. Her name's
Peggy, Peggy Jones, and Peggy'sout there mowing her lawn last week,
her on her rider, just mindingher own business, and out of nowhere,
the snake falls from the sky,lands on her and then wraps itself
around her arm. Right, So, here's Peggy mulling her lawn on I

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text this day with the snake aroundher arm. She's flailing it all over
the place, trying to shake thesnake off of her arm. Okay,
that sucks. But then out ofnowhere comes this hawk and swoops down on
her and starts attacking the snake,trying to get the snake. Right,
So, she says, the snakeswooped down on her like four times.

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Eventually, you know, it ranoff with the snake. It got the
snake off of her arm and thenflew off with its dinner. There,
she said, there was blood everywhere. She thought that she had been bitten.
Her husband heard the commotion. Comesout, Peggy, what Dell's going
on? She told him what happened. He takes her to the er.

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They treat her for the scratches andthe bruises. Come to find out,
she wasn't bitten, but she didget close because she found some venom on
the lens of her glasses. Ohmy god. Yeah, But nonetheless,
Peggy's fine. Peggy's fine. Shewas treated. She went back to the
house, and she considers herself tobe the luckiest person alive to have survived

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such an attack. Not the firsttime Peggy was bitten by a venomous snake,
though she says she was bitten afew years back. But it's the
last time she mows the lawn insteadof her husband doing it, or she
doesn't have a husband because he diedsuddenly before the next lawn mowing. Damn,
crazy things happened, right some people, Some women like mowing the lawn.

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Yeah, I know, I enjoyit too, But man, if
that happened to me, I'd belike, this is why you're supposed to
be doing so put me in danger. She did say that her old man
when they got back to the house, she got back on the tractor,
but he like stayed close and keptdenying, because what's gonna do, right,
duck stop see something flying? He'sbatting out all the way. No.

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No. Seven monkeys found in backpackby Border Patrol. The Texas Border
Patrol says they caught someone trying tosmuggle a backpack full of monkeys into the
country. Border Patrol agents and Brownsvillesaid Thursday that someone tried to sneak in
seven South American spider monkeys across theborder at Fort Brown by hiding them inside
a backpack. On Facebook, theagency called the spider monkeys critically endangered animals

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and said the owner of the backpackhas been arrested for suspected wildlife smuggling.
The monkeys have been turned over tothe US Fish and Wildlife for relocation.
All they gonna put him in azoo somewhere, probably a movie with Jan
god van Dam and then you haveto go get your friends to go see
him in the right right, Iwas gonna say another friends, Marcel,

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I'll never forget the name. Now, yeah, all right, we gotta
take a break. We'll be goodmorning. It's the Big Mad Morning Show.
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to say to eight two nine fourfive mold Creon def Leopard tickets could be
yours. We'll do that at seventhirty. Right now, we got to
see what Lindsay has. Four ballsto the wall. Sports, the reigning

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two time defending champions have been eliminatedfrom the Women's World Cup. The United
States was sent home following a penaltyshootout lost to Sweden at Melbourne Rectangular Stadium
on Sunday, Following a scoreless regulation, the US was outscored five to four
on PK's After three straight makes tobegin the shootout out, the US missed

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three of its next four. Theloss marks the worst finish ever for the
Americans at the Women's World Cup.I mean, the penalty kicked thing like
they just didn't look I don't wantto say they didn't look into it,
because come on, they knew whatthey were doing, right. Yeah,
but did you see the save thathappened where the US goalkeeper grabbed it and

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it popped up in the air andshe fell back into the goal and hit
it again. They checked the replay. It was like a piece of paper
width on the replay that showed itwas a goal. Wow. Yeah.
That ultimately was the reason they lost. And the Panthers are adding a former
single season sacks leader to the defense. Carolina As signed edge rusher rusher Justin

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Houston to a one year deal worthup to seven million dollars. The deal
includes six million dollars guaranteed. Thethirty four year old spent last season with
the Baltimore Ravens, where he totalednine and a half sacks in fourteen games.
Houston led the NFL with twenty twosacks during the twenty fourteen season and
has racked up one hundred and elevenand a half sacks throughout his twelve year

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career. The four time pro bowlerplayed two seasons with Carolina head coach Frank
Reich for during his stint in Indianapolis. And that's your balls to the Wall
Sports. I'm Lindsay at ninety sevenfive KM Good morning, it's the Big
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it's time for best and worst theweekend. What's the best thing that happened
and the worst thing that happened?A couple of ways to get it to

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us nine when eight four six ohkmod or you can text it BMMS and
whatever that is to eight two ninefour five lindsay what's the best and what's
the worst? The best would havebeen over the weekend we went to like
you fall Up with some friends ofours and it was a nice day,
even though it rained in the morning. It was beautiful at the lake and

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it wasn't too crowded. The waterwas like glass. It was perfect.
Weather was really nice, not toohot, just perfect, a little bit
of overcast even so, yeah,it wasn't just so damn hot. And
the worst part would have to bewe want shopping yesterday, which is always
fun to shop. But the moneythat we spent guess how much we ended

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up spending them back to school clothesjust for the kids, seven thousand dollars,
it felt like it. We endedup buying one, two, three,
four five pairs of shoes okay forthe kids, and clothes we hit
Up Shoe Carnival, Old Navy,and Dick Sporting Goods. Okay, a

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grand danem In. Just those clothessounds about right that you'll replace them three
months, right, right, rightright? I am annoyed by tax free
weekend, yes, right, becauseyou buy clothes when you need them,
right, Like this is like gardening. Yeah. I don't know if everybody
does that. I we never didthat. Girling up we got we got

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clothes at the beginning of the schoolyear, right, and those were that's
it, that's all we got.I know. But that makes no sense,
okay, because you grow, Yeah, absolutely, Rather than concentrate to
buy one time and make it work, why not just buy like one thing
you need and then later buy onething you need and then some people can
you know, can't do that,can't afford it. Yeah, but they
can do it all at once.Yeah, get it all done now,

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spread that money out, not onone point would be my thing, and
you go and it's chaos. That'sthe truth. Makes it makes no sense.
Yeah, it was pretty chaotic.Yeah. Yeah, that's even as
late in the day as we went. My wife went shopping on Friday for
the kids, but didn't know itwas tax free weekend, all right,

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So she was like, why areall these what is there? And I
was like, it's tax free weekend. Oh, we're coming home. Then
give me what's the best and what'sthe worst. Best of the weekend?
Man, today's my birthday. Sowe and my friends and family, like
all of them, except for mylittle brother because he's a pitch. He
had other things to do. Weall gathered down at Sparrowhawk Camp and Tallaqua

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and floated the river and it wasawesome. I got a cabin down there,
and so a lot of us stayedin the cabin, and a couple
other friends brought their camper and theystayed just like maybe a fifty one hundred
yards down south of us, youknow. So we all were just right
there, concentrated, had a greattime. The rain kind of sucked while
you're floating the river, but it'sokay, it's okay. I mean,

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we're in it. We're already inthe water. We're getting wet. Luckily
none of us got struck by lightning. But those uh kids out there wherever
the hell it was, May County. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I
was like that's insane, But dude, we had a great time. Um
My buddy Chip brought he made homemadepickle shots, right, which is pickle
juice and vodka. And we passedthat jug a gallant is what he brought

(35:44):
with us, and it was goingthe entire so it took like a gallon
jug with vodka and and pickle juiceand that's it. That's it. Yeah,
God, dang man, those pickleshots are good. Man. The
fun thing about pickle shots is likeeverybody makes them different. Like I go
out to the Cimarron over there bythe old station, right and they'll take
like a chunk of a spear anddrop it in there with you. It's
your little garnsman or whatever. Iwent out to the ice house and this

(36:06):
lady did it up right. Man. She poor you. She had a
pickle slice on the rim and thenthe rim was rimmed with tachin. You
know. So it's like these pickleshots are pretty solid and they don't get
you like hungover. Well, I'msure there was a lot more that was
just you know, yeah, becauseI woke up Sunday morning, I was
like, oh balls, I amfeeling it. But dude, it was
great. We drank everything we had, like when we got back from the

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rim. We were when we didthe six mile float, right, and
by the time we got back therewere it was a truly a doctor pepper,
like three bottles of water and thenthat was it. Out of like
all the beers that we had,we pounded them some bitches down. Yeah,
I'm still stuck on this pickle shotthing. So it's just pickle juice

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and vodka. That's it. Youcan buy a pulled pickle juice, right,
Sure, it's just pickle juice.You don't have to buy a massive,
economy sized jar and use it.But yeah, I don't know what
his ratio was, but it wasgood because you didn't feel the burn of
the voky, didn't taste the voca. It was nothing but just pure pickle
juice. But damn did it getyou lit up? Oh yeah, I

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would think. I mean, it'sa shot of vodka. Yeah. So
we came back after it was unfloatingand uh and we ate grilled burgers and
bronze and ate and hung out andand whatnots. And I guess really the
worst part of it. I wasso damn worn out and hammered on the
river that I was done by likeeleven o'clock, I'm laying in this hammock,

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you know. And it started offjust me staring up at the stars
and just relaxing because I was sotired. And next thing, you know,
and we were like, hey,you want to get up and go?
No, leave me the f alone. So you sucked outside. No.
I ended up getting up and goinginside. But it was like people
were like, you mowing to goinside? Da duh. I'm good.
I'm good laying right here in ahammock. That's why we have it well.

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But all in all, great weekend. I was very pleased with Spirit
Hawk. I'd never been there before. I usually go like Peyton's Police or
you know, Eagle Bluff or somethingof that effect. So this is a
new spot that I've never been to, and I'm like, oh, I
don't want to go anywhere else.I liked it that much. Cavin was
awesome, the campgrounds were awesome.The neighbors were awesome. You know.

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We get there like Friday after thepatio party and they're playing my type of
music and I was like, allright, I hear Zak Bryan in the
background. I was like, allright, I can handle these guys.
These guys are great and it wasa really awesome experience. Is that a
GRDA river? I don't. Ithink so. I don't know. I
don't know. I think so becauseI mean, do they make you get
like if it's lightning, do theymake you get out of the river?

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That sounds crazy. I mean youreally can't get out of the river.
I mean you should go up onto the bank or whatever. But nobody
ever said anything to us. Wedidn't have river police or anything like that
come by and be like, hey, everybody out of the water. Na.
We just floated on. Let letthe brain pass on, buy and
after that it was it was smoothsailing from there. We were kind of
one of the last ones in,you know, because we stopped so many

(39:07):
times to party on the bank orwhatever. I did get out of the
river, now, yeah, yougot us to do that. Every now
said, yeah you got out ofthe river, dry off a little bit,
you know, And yeah, itwas awesome. I love floating.
What time did you get in?Uh, from the float itself, what
time did you get into the river? Oh? Into the river at noon
and got out about seven six thirtyseven. Yeah, that's why I don't

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want floating the river. Yeah,it takes forever. Yeah, if it
can, it can I mean ifyou stop as many times as we did,
because we go like a hundred feetand then stop, and then they
go like another quarter of a mileand then stop. You know, was
it rafts or was it tubes?Rafts? All rafts and we were all,
you know, just like you alwaysdo, cooler in the middle,

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everybody lying around the sides well,and we all just too meandered our way
down the river. It's so awesome. And then when you stopped, do
you eat too? And then youknow some people did. Some people brought
you know, snacks and sandwiches andstuff like that, and well I didn't.
I just drank my lunch. Yeah. Did anybody get you a gift?
I did? Yes, Yes,my buddy Josh got me a Harley

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David's Zippo pretty awesome, which atthe end of the flow trip it was
the only lighter working because you know, we kind of got separated, was
getting late, so like people werehurrying dutta to die and everybody ran off
with all the fire, you know, except for me with my trusty zippa.
But I didn't have it. Itwas just like whatever, the fluid
came with it, right, Soby the time we got back to camp,
it was dead. I was like, well, at least I still

(40:36):
got my old electric lighter, mywind proof that works for me. My
buddy Mick got me a fifth ofa special reserve crown. It's pretty awesome.
Did that survive? Yes? Yes, I made it a point.
I mean I poured me and hima shot when we got back from the
river, and then I tucked itoff to the side. And you know,
because we had to handle a jackexcuse me, handle a gym.

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We had two handles of crown,one peach, one apple. My brother
brought a case of beer and asmall fifth of jim I bought a case
of beer. We had so manybeers on beers, on beers, and
yeah, by the end of theweekend of the beers were gone, but
all the liquor pretty well stayed intactbecause of chips, pickle. How do

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you do? How do you guysdo? Like breakfast in the morning?
Oh, we got up and hegoes somewhere. You guys cooked? No,
we cooked there. And a coolthing about this cabin because I was
going to bring the blackstone right andwe'd have we'd be ready to go.
And this cabin had a gas grill, propane grill out there. It had
a full kitchen with some dishes,you know, so we didn't have to

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worry about bringing all that stuff.And my brother really showed up. Man
made breakfast both Saturday and say fedeverybody. You know. Uh, they
got me a cake, my friendsbred. Michelle got a cake with a
t Rex on it that says,I hope you have a warsome day.
And I had gimping ain't easy onthe bottom. I was like, that's
cool. So we ate breakfast Sundaymorning and then I bring out the cake

(42:06):
and then everybody sang happy birthday,and we all had cake, you know,
after breakfast, cake, and thenhung out and enjoyed and then everybody
do Do Do Dodo took off fromthere and nice. It was really really
awesome. It sounds like the perfectbirthday for you. And then my daughter
yesterday, my daughter Saturday calls meup while I'm pissed ass drunk on the
lake. She's like. I waslike, oh crap, it's my daughter

(42:28):
calling. So I stumbled my wayover to the bank so I'm not dropping
my phone in the river and she'slike, hey, it's just I got
something for your birthday. I wantedto see if you were doing anything we
can get together. I was like, I'm out the little river right now,
but I'll be back tomorrow and wegonna look up then. All right.
Cool. Totally forgot about it untilI was like halfway home. I

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was like, oh my god,I go to Lawah. So so my
daughter and my son and my son'slady and the baby come out. Okay.
So I got to see the grandbaby yesterday. That was awesome.
And they come over to my houseand my daughter got me this really cool
It's a leather key chain that saysDan on it. You know, it's
not much of anything, but thecool thing she she got me a leg

(43:15):
lamp for like a desktop leg lampfrom Christmas story no kid him. Yeah.
Yeah, She's like, here yougo. Happy birthday. It's like,
that's freaking awesome, Thank you verymuch. So I got some pretty
groovy stuff out of it. Yeah, that sounds like you had like the
perfect gimpy birthday. I did.I did. It's very pleased. Well,
Happy birthdays, man, best andworst of the weekend. What's the

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best thing that happened this weekend andthe worst thing that happened this weekend.
I mean the best was I thinkthe weather. It was awesome, yeah,
on Saturday and suns because Saturday wassupposed to be hot turned out not
to be hot, and Sunday wasawesome. It's funny how we're joking at
the patio party. I was tellingGimpy as he was getting in, I'm

(43:57):
like, all right, be safe, and he looked at me. I'm
like, we'll be Gimpy safe,And how different our safety is and how
my I like finished the whole bookon Saturday outside like it was awesome,
nice, it was awesome. I'mpsyched, and you like completely whatever the
exact opposite into the spectrum is iswhat yours. I had some light reading

(44:21):
on the deck of the cabin,but it was just the back of the
camp right right, So the weatherhas to have been the best for sure.
Worst part of the weekend is thestorms Saturday night into Sunday. My
kids, like, thunder was soloud. They kept getting up and it
would be like I would get up, go put them in bed, maybe

(44:43):
lay with them for a minute,and then there wouldn't be any thunder,
so I go back to bed,and then it with thunder, and then
I'd have to go back, likeI must have six seven times. Yeah
I am, and I saw.I just laid in there finally and stayed
in their bed and it's so uncomfortablebecause it ain't my bed, right.
Yeah. It always reminds me ofTed the f you thunder song? Okay,

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yeah, yeah? Best and worstthe weekend. What's the best thing
that happened this weekend? Worst thingthat happened this weekend? Best was the
turp float festival on the river.Worst hole in the roof of my camper
and it rained. Oh that sucks. Best of the weekend flow of the
river with close friends. Worst parthad no had a nail going too my
foot a third through the float trip. Now I'm hobbling out. Yeah,

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that's my buddy Josh and he's justmining his own business. Accidentally stepped on
a nail that was in the river. Didn't realize that was nail, just
thought it was a sharp rock andkept stepping on it, stepping on it.
Realized well that's not you know,leaving and ended up pulling out.
I was like that, Now yougot to get a technis shot. My
brother got hooked with a fishing hookbecause he's walking back, you know,
walking the shoreline or whatever, andsome old fishing hook just got him right

(45:53):
here on the belly. He kepton walking, didn't realized the belly.
Yeah, I got to get himon the belly if he was walking.
He was walking the doorline or whatever, and it was tangled up, oh
like on the tree. And thenit hooked him on the bell. And
he didn't realize that it got himuntil he gotten so far and it snagged
him back. He's like, whatthe hell? So now, yeah,
he's got an nice little hook markethere on stomach. Best been in Panama
City Beach for the last two weeks. Favorite part for me was the fishing.

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Lots of fish caught it. Myfavorite was a ten that's ten foot
right hammer head shark. Wow.Worst, I had to come back to
work and pay off my vacation.Head. Best found an awesome New Taco
place. Worst was sitting in mycar listening to a story on NPR.
Wanted to finish it like the goodliberal democrat. I apparently am saw a

(46:37):
woman diarrhea all over a wall andsidewalk when there is a bathroom fifty feet
away. Now I'm in favor ofthe death point. What's happening there?
Oh my gosh, there's a lot. Why is the NPR story reference?
Why is that? And that reallypaints a picture, much like the lady
painted the wall? Best paid,my first car off worst ac my apartment?

(47:01):
Apartment has it worked all month?It was eighty seven last night.
I'm recovering from ankle surgery and Ilive alone with my son. You mean
you live with you so mad?So I can't get up and go cool
down or drive somewhere. Two outof ten do not recommend. Yeah,
but if department kay, just makethem fix it, you would think exactly,

(47:23):
you would think, yeah, allright, we got tickets to Molly
Crue and def Leppard. We're gonnagive away that shows August sixteenth at Chapman
Stadium. We're gonna give those awaywhen we come back. Rush more of
the Big Mad Morning Show is nashstety seven. Good morning, It's the

(47:52):
Big Man Morning Show. Six OKMOD. You can also text bmms and
then what you want to say toeight two nine four five. Let's play
a game, because we got ticketsto give away to mot La Crue and
def Leppard August sixteenth, over atthe University of Tulsa Campus at Chapman Stadium.

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Tickets available Live Nation dot Com forthat August sixteenth show. And we're
going to play the ten twenty thirtygame. That's right, damn low,
fifty years of m O D.Rough Baby, Let's find out three songs
from fifty years as your rock station. Answer correctly, you win, baby,

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nine one, eight four six oldm O D. Prove all right.
So I'll play three songs and thenI'll tell you the year I'm looking
for. Which one is with thatyear? Get it right? You get
those tickets to see Mot La Crueand def Leppard. Good morning, you're
on the air. What is yourname, Alex Alec? How are you

(48:59):
pretty good? Core? How's itgoing good, buddy? So I'll play
the three songs and then I'll tellyou the year I'm looking for you Ready,
we'll do it all right. Here'sthe first one, Foxy Lady,
fox fox Lindsay, Jimi Hendrix,Foxy Lady. Yeah, that's right.

(49:21):
Here's song number two, Gimby,Well, that's gonna be Maiden Run though.
Yeah. And then here's the lastone. Zeppelin of course, and

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hey, what can I do?So I'm looking for the song from nineteen
seventy Alec Bendy. I'm gonna gowith Yeah, Oh, I'm gonna go
with Zeppelin. Zeppelin is your guess? Yeah all right, yeah of course,

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man, congratulations, Yeah, yeah, the Crew and Death Leopard.
They're gonna be over at Chapman Stadiumon the campus University of Tulsa in August
sixteenth. Hang on the line sogimp he can get your info. Okay,
I love it. You guys arethe best. Thank you, brother.
Hang on that line, man,so you can go to that show.
Yeah, all right, we're gonnatake a break and we'll be back.
You're listening to the Big Mad MorningShow. This is Tulsa's Morning Show

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Gimpi has in his four by four. Colvin says here that judge gives Trump
deadline to respond to motion for protectiveorder. A federal judge is given President
Trump until the end of today torespond to a special counsel Jack Smith's motion
for protective order. Smith filed themotion Friday. Up Trump posted on true
socially, if you go after me, I'm coming after you. Trump leaded

(51:23):
not guilty Thursday to criminal charges connectedto his alleged efforts to overturn the election.
Smith wrote in his filing that publicposts by the former presidents about the
case could have harmful, chilling effectson witnesses or adversely affected the fair administration
of justice. Trump has until fivepm Eastern to respond former officers to learn

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his fate in the George Floyd case. To tul was convicted of aiding an
embetting manslaughter. He's already in prisonon a three and a half year sentence
for depriving Floyd of his civil rightswhen he died at the heads of the
police. It says here that oldJB is heading out west to tout his
economic policies. They'll be visiting keybattlegrounds in Arizona to touch said economic policies.

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They'll also traveled to New Medical andUtah as part of the trip.
The White House says JB will spotlightthe one year anniversary of the inflation Reduction
Act, his Western Swing a scheduleto wrap up on Thursday. And then
lastly here Tulsa Housing Authority starts renovationson Pioneer Plaza. Tulsa Housing Authority is

(52:40):
announced that the beginning of the renovationproject on one of their properties, a
housing unit intended for elderly citizens andpeople with disabilities. The fifty three million
dollar project will improve the conditions ofthe plaza. They say it's outlived its
usefulness and we're gonna put some moneyinto it to extend in that life a

(53:00):
little further. Yeah, it's justit's that place, um north of OSU
downtown is where that's at. SYeah, good that you know. People
have me a nice so. JakePaul remains undefeated against MMA fighters. Saturday

(53:27):
night, the YouTube stared hey unanimousdecision yeah against n A Diaz. Paul
managed to hurt Daz in the firstround, but Diaz hung in there and
made it competitive until the end.After the fight, Paul challenged Daz to
a rematch, and Diaz seemed receptive. Reportedly, Paul and the PFL have
a standing ten million dollar offer forDiaz to do it. I saw where

(53:51):
Daz said yes, but he wantsan MMA fight this time. And I
saw in an interview this morning whereJake Paul said, yes, he he
came to my ring, and soI'll go to his let's go. No
way he's doing that. Do youthink his management team is telling him,
all right, dude, if youwon't be able to take you seriously,
No, I don't think you canstop there. No, you're gonna have

(54:13):
to eventually start fighting people who aren'tretired. Why it's working. He's making
money, right, but his successreally isn't legit. I mean, is
he beating people or is he not? He is, but he's beating retired
Listen, I understand the argument you'remaking. Yeah, but you I think
where people are getting this twisted.Is you think he's trying to be the

(54:36):
best of all time, but he'sjust trying to collect cash, right,
Yeah, but he's claiming that he'sa real fighter. I mean, is
he fighting in a ring? Yeah? Is he wearing gloves? Are are
there judges in a referee? Andis it on pay per view? And
all the all the boxes that haveto be checked? Yeah? So how's
he not a real fighter? Becausewe don't agree with the opponents he's taking

(54:59):
on, which I don't disagree with, but I mean, if he wants
that, you know, if hewants to be as good as Nate Diaz
or you know the rest of theseguys that have have been there. Nate
Diaz isn't a boxer, no,but when he wasn't in MMA, before
he was retired, he was upthere. He was legit, he was

(55:22):
He hasn't had the success late.I mean, he's been kind of on
a downroad spiral for a while.So is everybody All these UFC fighters that
are going into the ring with thiscat um are they all doing it just
for the MoneyGram? Yes, yeah, okay, yes, he's gonna make
sense. Then he's gonna make likea million or two dollars for losing.

(55:45):
What does he care? Right again? You you think he's worried about his
legacy Diaz now right? Yeah,he's not a free agent quarterback is doing
whatever? By the way, Yeah, I'm seeing fifty and pay per view
buys, which is not very many. Oh that was it. It did

(56:05):
not do well and they went tenrounds blood, meaning I mean that's a
good Hey, if I'm buying payper view, I wanted to go ten
rounds. Yeah, but you're you'relooking at in terms of your return on
your investment. And I want tosee a good fight. Yeah for sure.
Going just because you would go tenrounds don't mean it's a good fight.
I feel I'm like I'm getting mymoney's worth though at least and one

(56:28):
of the local guy was one ofthe judges for the fight, and it
was like ninety eight ninety one.It wasn't It's not close. One free
agent quarterback is doing whatever it takesto get another job in the NFL.
Veteran signal caller Carson Wentz recently posteda picture on Instagram of him working out
on his own. In the photo, Wentz is wearing gear from all three

(56:49):
teams for which he played in theleague. He downed an Eagles helmet,
commander's jersey, and Colt shorts.Philly selected went second overall in the twenty
sixteen NFL Draft out of North DakotaState. The Eagles traded him to Indie
for a twenty twenty one third roundpick and a twenty twenty two first rounder.
After one season with the Colts,Wentz was traded to Washington last year
for twenty twenty two, second andthird round picks and a conditional pick in

(57:14):
the twenty twenty three draft. Idon't see him playing unless somebody gets hurt
and they need a quarterback right away, like a season ender. I don't
see him playing again. The Lakersare officially signing Anthony Davis to the richest
annual contract extension in NBA history.Los Angeles announced it had signed the superstar
forward to a three year, onehundred eighty six million dollars maximum contract extension

(57:37):
on Sunday. The deal comes afterDavis had two years and eighty four million
dollars remaining on his current contract.The thirty year old averaged twenty six points
and thirteen rebounds per game last seasonand helped lead the Lakers to the Western
Conference finals. Davis was traded toLA in twenty nineteen and won an NBA

(57:58):
title in twenty two twenty with theLakers. And that's your Balls to the
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awesome. This is where we speakwith a listener and they share parts of
their life with us. And itlooks like on the phone right now,
Rick is joining us. Hey Rick, how are you good man? How
are you guys? Great? Rick? It says here you've been married thirty
three years, dude, congratulations toget married at what twenty one twenty two

(59:29):
and then still be married today.Yeah, man, yeah, it was.
Actually we actually dated for a yearand then we're engaged for a year
even before we got married, sotechnically it's been thirty five. When you
first started dating. We would goto like Bennigan's and she'd order a beer
because she's older than me, andI'd order a pepsi and she'd drink the
pepsi and I'd drink beer. Howmuch older is she than you? Just

(59:52):
a year? Okay? Yeah?Yeah, yeah? And how did you
meet her? Kind of fun story. I saw I was having a beer
with a buddy of mine over acrossthe street from the University of Tulsa,
and we had a few beers andit's like, hey, let's go visit
a front of ours. That's anafternity over to the University Tulsa and the
Lamb of Kai House. And sowe're walking over there and he's coming out

(01:00:14):
of the Lamb of Kai House andas we're walking up and he's like,
hey, guys, what you guysdoing? It was like coming over to
hang with you and have a beer. And he's like, well, I'm
getting ready to go to a movie, and like, oh, what are
you gonna go see? And hesays Dirty Dancing and we're like yeah,
no how and he goes, butman, I'm going with like twenty three
for sarty Girls and I'm like,uh in. And so we went to

(01:00:34):
this movie and one of the girlsI kind of caught my eye. I
thought she was pretty cute, andI'm like, Okay, I'm gonna try
to sit next to this chick whenwe get into this theater. So I
walked down the aisle pretty pretty earlywithin this crowd, and so I just
stand there and I'm letting people filein in front of me. And my
plan was just to walk in rightbehind her and sit down right next to
her. But whoever went in firston that aisle left the very end seat

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open, and then when the girlgot down to me, she stopped,
went in the road behind and walkedall the way back this empty road,
and then sat in that last seatin the road that we were actually all
going to sit in. So Iwas pretty disappointed. So anyway, I
started talking to this girl that wassitting next to me and just chatted up
and so we watched Dirty Dancing,and I'm about two weeks later, my
buddy that I went to the moviewith the three of us. We were

(01:01:21):
talking about the movie and stuff andthese girls and I said, yeah,
does anyone know that this one burnettethat was there and they said, yeah,
she actually roommates with one of myfriends from high school. I'll call
her and see what's up with herand say called, and she actually noticed
me, I guess, and wasasking about me. So they said,

(01:01:42):
you know, just go over tothe Swarty house there to you and just
ask her out. So I showup at the house just still on a
whim and ring the doorbell and thisgirl comes to the door and she's like,
hey, oh wait, you're fromthe movie the other night, and
I'm like yeah, she just holdon. She closed the door, and
five minutes ago by and the girlanswered the door and it was the girl
that I was sitting next to.It wasn't the girl that I was going

(01:02:05):
to ask a date for. Andthe surprise on her face is like,
hey, dude, it's nice tosee you again, I guess. I'm
like yeah, I'm like, uh, sorry, I'm here for somebody named
Sally. She's like, oh,hold on, And so they went and
got her and it took forever Ithink she was like really nervous or something.
But anyway, she ended up comingto the sorority door and inviting me
in. We sat in the greenroom for a little while watching the TV

(01:02:29):
because they wouldn't let you anywhere intothe into the sarty back then. And
uh, commercial came up for trains, planes and Aulmobiles and I was like,
I'd like to see that movie,and she said so so would I,
and so I asked her out andthe rest was history, man,
And that was in It was inearly spring of the eighty seven. How

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crazy is it that you almost gota date with a completely different girl?
Yeah? Yeah, yeah, Well, I mean I was kind of dressed,
kind of you know, we usedto dress too. And I think
his phone has cut out there itis sorry, your phone cut out?
Oh sorry man. We're driving throughthe hills of Tennessee. Right. Uh

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yeah, So I was like pullinga sweater off, trying to cool off
in a skater and that. ButI guess people had taken that as like
we were like making out or somethingduring the movie. Let them think what
they were. But how great wasdirty dancing? Huh? You know what?
It actually was a pretty damn goodmovie to tell you the truth.
I mean, yeah, I'm anymovie where you get to see a man

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pray on a child under the ageof eighteen is fantastic. Yeah yeah,
yeah. You know, we weremarried for we were actually uh engaged,
and we were driving down Harvard goingon a date and uh there was a
song on the radios, get Readyto Start, and she's like, oh,
it's our song, and she thoughtit was like the theme song to
Dirty Dancing. It was actually IWant Your Sex by I Am. When

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you heard the first couple chords anduh, and I was like, oh,
okay. Yeah. It says herethat you're a Curator of Conservation and
Scientific Advancement at the Tulsa Zoo.So one you must have the biggest business
card ever with that title. Andtwo did you go to school to be
a zoo biologist or or whatever?Yeah? Yeah, yeah. I studied

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biology and I studied walife fisheries ecologyat Oklahoma State University, and then I
went to graduate school at OEU,and yeah, I actually purposely studied things
to you know, work within ecosystemsor with and or with animals. Was
the plan to be at the TulsaZoo. Or were you hoping to go
to any zoo? Uh? No, I just kind of fell into the

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to the zoo world. Actually finishedcollege and got a gig with the US
Fish and Wildlife Service and a termappointment at a at a national wilife refuge.
And when that term ran out,I was like, Okay, now
do I do? And so Iended up working a little bit for the
City of Tulsa as a term employeedoing water testing as a chemist. And

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then I had a buddy that Ihad wonder Follows be with, which is
the study of birds at the OSU, who was working at the zoo.
And he's like, man, yougotta count check out the zoo. It's
kind of a cool place to work. And so I got an internship and
I interned for a year and thengot hired on in ninety nine. Well
you said you tested water? Didyou test Tulsa like city water? Yeah,

(01:05:31):
drinking water. I used to telleverybody that I was like I was
the last line of defense for kindof like psychoproof because I tested Nike for
all the nasty things like ar,snake and lead and you know, anything
that would end up on the waterthat would be detrimental to us. So,
knowing what you know about the citywater that we drink, what kind

(01:05:51):
of water do you drink at home? Yeah, no, I mean our
water's fine, it's it's uh.I'm just kind of particular about my water
anyway, I guess. So,Yeah, except like you didn't say the
word safe. Yeah, yeah,okay, I need to know. No,

(01:06:18):
No, the water's fine, it'sfine. Yeah, I'm still not
using the word safe. You're you'reyears ago they went to they used uh,
they went disinfects and clean water.They switched the process and using uh
chloramines, and it's just it's justnot something that I want to adjust.
So yeah, that feels like agood enough indicator for me. Yep,

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I don't know biology. I don'tknow how that stuff works. But the
guy who knows it is like,yeah, that's not for me. We're
not talking about right, like thisis you don't want to that toxin in
your body. Yeah, I meanwe have to treat the water when we
do UH water changes for aquatics,we have to treat that water to reduce

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the amount of cormine so that thethat the aquatic life can can survive.
So even the water, Yeah,Okay, I'm not gonna prush you.
I don't want to put you ina pretty much all right. Um yeah,
speaking of water, I know justfrom some of the research we've done
that you're a beer a beer fan. Yeah yeah, what do you love

(01:07:24):
about beer? And what are someof your favorite beers? Uh? What
I love about beers that it's umthese days now with with craft brewing just
gone off the charts. Uh,it kind of speaks to a real passion
for people and it speaks to thecommunity. So, like, I just

(01:07:45):
spent some time here this weekend inNashville, Tennessee. I've never been here
before. We checked out probably fouror five different breweries, and um,
it's just the uniqueness in it anduh, by brew beers. I love
to to experiment in brewing different typesof beers. So yeah, it's just
different beers from different parts of thecountry. And you know, yeast is

(01:08:10):
what makes the beer. It's justbrewing beer is just wet chemistry and it's
just a basically general ingredients to gointo beer and then it's what you kind
of add to it to kind ofcreate the creativity. The creativeness what makes
the beer either hazy or not.Hazy or taste like grape fruit or whatever
the case may be. And whatdo you like? Are you a double

(01:08:30):
dry hop to ipa guy? Areyou a stout guy? What are you?
Yes? What's the best beer you'veever drank? Man? The best
beer so far over all these yearsis a brewery outside of Boulder, or
it's actually in Boulder, but it'scalled up Slope And there's an ipa that

(01:08:51):
they do. It's called spruce tipipa, and they put it put that
beer on about five different hops,and they also uh dry hoop it and
they use tips from fresh spruce trees. So it's real piney, I'm guessing,
uh no, not really. Youwould be surprised. It's yeah,

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no, it's not like you're drinkingball water or something. It's it's uh,
it's a This gives it a realnice finish. Man. It's it's
hard to describe. It's really good. I mean you when you pop it
open, you kind of smell it, kind of get the nose of a
little bit of pine pinness to it. But uh yeah, it just makes
for a really unique Reek beer.And I just I just recently ordered some

(01:09:35):
fresh pine tips from from Oregon andthey're they're frozen right now on my fridge.
I'm gonna I'm gonna brew a smallbatch and try to do a replicate
of that beer. I don't knowwhy that excites me, but it does.
Um. And what about local brewers? Is there a local brewer you
like to partake in? Yes?All of them? Yeah? Yeah,

(01:09:59):
you know again that uniqueness, thebackground of the individuals, what their passions
are is what what you know,what's created their their beer and um so
um. Eric Marshall's is a reallygood guy in the community. He's uh,
I consider him a friend of mineand uh he he has an unique
approach to his beer. He's classicallytrained from Germany. Um. Uh,

(01:10:25):
Cabin Boys has great beer. Nothing'sleft is a pretty cool breweries or really
creative kind of think outside the box, do all kind of different style of
the beer. And American Flera,I mean, if you're really you know,
pinkies out kind of beer, anduh, I really want to take
a deep dive into some very complicatedbrewis and just very uh high brow kind

(01:10:47):
of stuff. That's uh, that'sthe place to go. As American fleira,
for sure, great beers, they'reknown. We were in a brewery
here in town. We were drinkinga couple of sour beers and we're like,
yeah, we got this brewery oftown that that does really nice our
beers. And they're like, oh, it's Clara, And I'm like,
yeah, they even had a beerpaying homage to American flare in fulse of

(01:11:08):
That's cool. Uh? And sois that the dream for you to open
up your own brewery? If Icould have done it all over again,
yeah I would. I would haveloved to have an opportunity to do that.
But now it's just smell within myrealm of reality, just because it's
so expensive now, just the propertyalone and the equipment and everything involved.
I mean, you're you're talking acouple million dollars now on the start of

(01:11:30):
brewery. And and what when youbrew? Like how much do you brew
at a time? As a homebrewer? I do five gallons, two small
batches, five gallons of beer andyou just do little kegs or do you
do bottles? No? I cageand forced carbonated and a corn and corning
cakes. And I've got a conicalstandles still conical fermenter. Just as if

(01:11:53):
you were walking to a brewery butit's like it's like the Barbie version.
You know, everything's miniaturized as faras the mash time and all the equipment
that used the prom beer. Iknew just from the notes that you would
totally be able to go off ona tangent like getting nerded out on I
love it man, and so muchin fact that with that you do stuff
with october Fest. Yeah, I'vebeen a volunteer for about twenty twenty third

(01:12:18):
year now. Started off as assomeone who was a volunteer pouring beer and
then did that for many years.And back in the day, I don't
know if you guys have been aroundin Tulsa, but october Fest was a
lot different than it was now.It was a lot smaller, and it
used to have different volunteer positions.And one of my gigs was called a
beer runner, and we had thisvolunteer hospitality tent that had a window cut

(01:12:41):
out of the side of it andyou just walk up with the metal trade
and they'd hand you a tray fullof solo cups full of beer, and
my job listen to take that tradeto the other volunteers who were working in
the beer tents. And it wasa called a beer runner, and I
did that for a couple of years, and then became a beer boot manager,
which was somebody who ran one ofjust one of the beer tense which
we still have that that role,but they're called beer captains, and then

(01:13:06):
I worked my way up and soI've been involved probably the past twelve fifteen
years of just managing the entire beerservice at October fests, which there's about
eleven beer tense We've got over threehundred and fifteen taps and probably one hundred
and twenty five one hundred and thirtyfive variety of beers. And I managed

(01:13:30):
all of those volunteers and service groupsand other people who help pour all the
beer during the festival. And it'sjust not me either. We have a
whole team of beverage leadership team thatthere's I have five cohorts that helped me
pull this off. Yeah, youcan tell you're quite passionate about it.
I know you like your job,but you can tell what you talk about

(01:13:53):
beer like it is a different toneand cadence in your voice. So it's
clear that you are passionate about that. Going back to some of the work
you've done with animals. It sayshere that you had to use a safe
word on a chimp. Question whodecides the safe word, you or the
chimp? Yeah, Uh, actuallyit was the the veterinarian. We Uh,

(01:14:15):
we had a an animal that justwas having real difficulties with recovery after
a after an exam, and uh, she just wasn't quite coming out anesthesia.
And we would normally, uh,you know, we want to we
would normally not go in with adangerous animal like that. You know,
people ask us all the time inthe zoo field you go in with the
animals, and were like, absolutelynot. Um. But in this scenario,

(01:14:39):
in order to give that animal thebest care that we that we needed
to, we we had to bein close proximity of it. And uh,
you know, hours had gone by, and this chimp was kind of
coming in and out and uh Iwas in there at the time, was
a zookeeper, and I was lookingat the other zoo keeper and uh,
we were kind of on either sideof her. She was propped up on
some bills, okay, and youcould tell she was getting a little more

(01:15:01):
rigid, a little more stronger,And I was like, hey, man,
do you feel like you know this, she could just stand up at
any minute. And he's like,yeah, So turn to the vet and
it's like, hey, Doc,you know we we probably need to come
up with a plan here, andshe's like, yeah, let's uh what
do you guys think, I said, I don't know, let's just have
a safe word. She's like,okay, let's just go with a pineapple.
And then, I mean not evena minute went by, chimp just

(01:15:25):
stood straight up and uh. Wejust looked at each other with wide eyes
and like everyone was yelling pineapple,pineapple, pineapple. We're all trying to
get out of the uh this uhback area that we had her, trying
to get her care for h andtrying to all get out of this little
skinny metal door which was probably abouttwo and a half feet wide and I'm

(01:15:47):
six two of two fifty, souh, I kind of just bulldozed people
through and pushed them out as wewere trying to close the door behind us,
throwing your weight around it. Youwill yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah. What do you think isthe biggest misunderstanding people have about owning a
wild animal for their own personal use? Um? Big The biggest misunderstanding is

(01:16:15):
they don't realize that they're actually wildanimals. So you know, you could
you can try to domesticate a wildanimal as best you can, but truly
and honestly, they're they're innate behaviorsare just going to eventually chick in no
matter what training or what you havedone, and so, uh, you
know, folks don't understand that oncethese animals reach sexual maturity or whatever the

(01:16:40):
case may be, biologically, theyuh, you know, they they they
no longer really need you for anythingother than uh uh food. I mean
that you become the food. So, you know, people just don't understand
that. It's just it's just nota good idea to have any kind of

(01:17:01):
an exotic animal or a wild animal. We have folks who I've talked to
over the years who just, like, you know, they think they're doing
good and they are, you know, in a sense, I guess,
trying to rescue a duck or araccoon or whatever that may be. But
it's really best for people to toleave that kind of care up to professionals.

(01:17:25):
There's lots of rehabbers in the cityof Tulsa that rehab different types of
animals, but people who have monkeysand wild cats, you know, after
a certain period of time. Justuh, you know, there's just no
kind of stopping that behavior of beinga wild animal. It could be triggered
at any at any moment, andthere's no way to control that. You

(01:17:48):
know, you are you have akid. You guys have a child together
who's now an adult. When shewas young, your child was younger,
and she said, Hey, Iwant to get a pet, a spider
monkey. What kind of argument doesa dad who works closely with animals make
on why you cannot have it?Uh? Yeah, just early on,

(01:18:12):
you know, she grew up ingoing to the zoo with me, and
so she, um, we're kindof a doctrine into that mindset of already
kind of knowing the ramifications and uhand the mess the messaging behind what zoos
represent as far as supporting while thatconservation and supporting uh, animals that are

(01:18:34):
endangered or threatened. And so youknow she kind of she kind of got
that idea. But you didn't stopher for wanting animals. And so yeah,
you know, being a zookeeper andhaving the kid who who loved the
animals, we had all kinds ofstuff in our house. But you know,
I had geckos and water dragons andAfrican told called frogs and cats and

(01:18:58):
dogs. But yeah, she nevershe never said hey, let's uh,
let's get a let's get a kangarooedat you know like that. Okay,
last question for you got to pickbetween these two. We bought a zoo
or Zookeeper? Which movie is better? Uh? We bought a zoo.

(01:19:18):
That's the Matt Damon, Scarlett Johanssonmovie where Zookeeper is Kevin James, Adam
Sandler, Lazario Dawson. Yeah,the Zookeeper is just a goofy, goofy
movie and it's not it's not evenclose to I mean, what was that
What was that movie back in thenineties that had that dude from Monty Python.

(01:19:41):
Do you remember that zoo movie?Huh? Yeah, it was a
zoo movie. Yeah, where ohfierce creatures? That was that was more
close to real life zoo world thanZookeeper. Like, yeah, are you
a mark for zoom movies? Likeany zoom movie you're automatically like we're going
this weekend U in fact, youknow, going on vacation. If anyone

(01:20:02):
even dares to ask, hey,let's check out the zoo, I just
looked at him and go, no, right on. I've been to so
many zoos, seeing so much overthe career. I don't Yeah, Rick,
we've enjoyed talking chatting with you,man. Be careful driving back,
and uh thanks for taking the time. Yeah, thanks guys. All right,
buddy, we'll see you later.That's Rick. Our listeners are awesome.

(01:20:24):
We gotta take a break and we'llbe back Chelsea. This morning show,
Good morning. It's the Big ManMorning Show nine one eight four six
zero km ode And we didn't getto this on Friday, but have you

(01:20:50):
guys heard the story of the guywho took a flag pole and shoved it
in a guy's neck and they hadto cut the flagpole to get him into
the ambulance. Donk, donk,surely do you measure that? Like do
they have a thing like like ordo they take measure? They just hold

(01:21:12):
their arms out like do you holdthem up? Like? Hey, stay
right there. I ball it alittle bit. You're like, I think
you could fit. I don't know, man, you might need to cut
a couple inches off, That's allI can think of. It was like,
no, you like like a dogtrying to get through the gate.
There's gout like the stick that's waytoo big. Yeah, running it yeah,
no, no turn pivot. Yeah, And apparently the guy shoved the

(01:21:39):
flat did did have a flag onit? Do we know that that?
I didn't. I didn't catch thatpart. I for the better part of
my story. I'm going to sayyes, because that would be awesome,
and it was it. Flagpoles aren'tsharp on the end. No, some
have a little decorative eagle point orsomething like that. But based on the

(01:22:03):
facts that we know, which isthis guy was just on his bike and
got into an altercation with someone else. It's my understanding that they were both
homeless. Yeah, and he shovedthis flag underneath his jaw and went up
and out to his temple. Andit sounds like the guy's just gonna lose

(01:22:23):
an eye. Yeah, which youknow, I think that's not bad.
I mean, it sucks you're gonnalose an eye, But I mean that's
hardcore bro to get a flagpole shovedthrough your neck and out your head.
I don't think he got off prettyeasy running start right, Oh, to
shove it through there? Oh,I don't. I don't know, not

(01:22:45):
necessarily because it's so long A flagpoleso long, probably just need some strong
force. But that's what I'm sayingis that you would have to either swing
way back or have a running start, I would think. And how good
your grip right right? You're gonnaget resistance? Oh yeah, for sure,
Yeah yeah, but adrenaline and methwill make you do some crazy stuff.

(01:23:08):
No, that's fair. I mean, so it's possible. I'm not
saying this guy was all spun outor whatever, but I could see it
happening. No, that's fair.And was he carrying the flag pole as
a weapon but disguised it as I'ma flagpole carrier? Right? Right?
There is a homeless feller that I'veseen him on seventy first, one sixty

(01:23:32):
nine. I've seen him out inCatoosa area, and he walks around with
a flag on a pole and heholds a sign because I think if he's,
you know, shows he's more patriotic, we'll give him more money.
I don't know it's not this guy, that's for sure. But what I'm
saying is there are vagrants out therethat do that. So maybe this guy

(01:23:53):
does carry around a flagpole, maybenot intentionally using it as a weapon,
but right, maybe but also maybethis is patriotic for them. Yeah,
yeah, absolutely absolutely. I wasjust trying to, you know, breeze
through some articles here to see ifit did have a flag attached to it,
But it says American flag was stillattached, so he could have,

(01:24:17):
but it could have been the otherend, right, like the flag would
be hanging like out below, notlike sticking out of his correct. Yeah
yeah, because I mean he wentup through his neck, so that'd be
the back, that'd be the bottomof the pole, right and then up.
Yeah, so the flag part wouldbe draped draped down. And I'm

(01:24:40):
curious to what was said or whatwas the indicator that made you feel like
this was the needed way to handlethis, right? What happened because all
the article says is that the guywho did the stabbing said that the other
guy deserved Yeah, so what didthe other guy do? Was the there
you know, beef over, youknow, change found in the parking lot?

(01:25:03):
Right? Was there? You knowyou're under my bridge? No,
this is my bridge, right?Are you wrong? You wronged me?
So, my lady, yea.All these things are also not worth getting
a flag jammed into your neck forNo. The article says we certainly know
that he did this on purpose.You don't say, right, he's not
an accidental who all right? Yeah, yeah, impressive either way, he

(01:25:28):
says. One here says that oneof the witness says, we saw him
start to charge at this person justsitting on the ground in front of the
McDonald's. And then he said hecharged out him with the flagpole and started
doing like a stamming motion with it. That's the end of the article right
there. So he saw the guysitting on there, goes after him and
he's like, hey, Greek,Greek rick, you know. And I

(01:25:51):
didn't think about that. I wasthinking the person would be upright. But
if they fell backwards and they wereon their back, you definitely could do
anything over the head, like hammerdropped thing. And then if you're like
shoveling, you know, shovel kindof motion or whatever, because that'll not
I'll put some force into it.I honestly have never thought about stabbing somebody
with blag pole. No. No, but of the people in this room,

(01:26:15):
you have stabbed another individual with asharp object. Oh yeah, several
of them? Yeah, yeah,I'm right, more than one one person.
Yeah, So you are the exexpert sharp. You know stabber in
this situation me expert stabber. Hellyeah, uh yeah. How how long
was it? Oh? It wasjust a tip just to you, like

(01:26:36):
an inch in a quarter. Maybemaybe less than that, like an eighth
of an inch, just to youknow, prove my point. Show him
whose boss around here? Showed thatother dude who was boss with your little
inch in a quarter? Yep,we gotta take a break. We'll be
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(01:27:56):
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(01:28:42):
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Hensley from Hensley and Associate. It'sgood morning, Jeff. Hey, good

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morning, and Jeff's here to answeryour questions about any family law scenario.
You have nine eight four six oKMOD or you can text your question BMMS
and what that is to eight tonine, four to five, specializing in
child support, custody, divorce,name changes, father's rights, paternity,
any of those things. Don't relyon your friends. Get the answer from
the source, and Jeff's in thestudio to take your questions. Right now.

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This email came in and it says, I have a question for Jeff.
My X is trying to get ondisability, but she's trying to get
alimony as well. Would she beable to get both or not get both?
Well, I mean it depends.I mean remember in the state of
Oklahoma, when we're talking about alimony, it's based on two things. It's
need and ability to pay. Soyou know, some states like Nebraska and

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others are really lucky because they havea chart. They literally have a chart.
This is if you make this amountof money and you were together this
many years, then this is youralimoney kind of thing. We don't do
that. So it's a need andability to pay. So what that means
is the person asking for it hasto show that they have a need and
then they have to show that youactually have the ability to pay. All
right, So you know, everyscenario is different because let's say, for

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example, you got a scenario wheresomeone's taking all the debt, well,
that lowers their ability to pay oryou know, they look at it globally
too. So let's say you geta big settlement in the divorce or a
big portion of the assets. Soin other words, let's say you walk
away with half a million dollars inyou know, equity in the house and

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four one K money and all thatkind of stuff. The judge has to
look at it from a global perspective. Do you really have a need if
you've got immediate access to half milliondollars? I mean kind of things.
So it depends. That's why thisquestion is kind of it depends as far
as the two together. I mean, if the court awards alimony and she
needs and she needs disability, thenyes, I mean that is a possibility

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that can be, that can occur. Of course, how much of the
alimony decision is up to the judge. I mean there is subjective Like can
you take one case, give itto two different judges and they might rule
it completely different. Absolutely, it'scompletely and utterly subjective. Yikes, Yeah,
that feels concerning. I don't Yeah, I don't disagree in any way
shape or form. You know,a lot of people will make agreements about

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alimony to kind of control that problem. And that's one of the things about
why mediation is such an effective tool. It gives the two parties the ability
to be involved and the decisions thatare being made in their lives financially and
otherwise, as opposed to leaving itto the old joke we tell is is
someone in a black bathrobe who knowsnothing about your life, for her life,

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for anything involved, and I haveto hear some testimony and then they
make life altering decisions based upon thatshort amount of testimony. So you know,
it depends, but you can thathappen. Yes, this two can
be awarded depending upon the situation.Jeff Hensleys joined us from Hinsley and Associates.
Got a question about divorce, custody, guardianship, adoption. Jeff can
answer those questions nine eight four sixO kmod is the phone number, or

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you can text your question BMMS andwhatever that is to eight to nine four
five. This emails us. Severalweeks ago, I found out my girlfriend
is pregnant. Before that, wetalked about getting married maybe in the fall.
Over the course of the last threeweeks, she gradually ceased contact with
me, to the point where thereis basically no communication between us. I

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really wanted this relationship to work out, start a family with her at the
very least. If our relationship doesnot work out, I want to be
as involved as I can with mychild's life. Ideally, I would like
to have some kind of joint custodyagreement so we could have equal time with
our child. Since we are unwedam I and I am a the father
with no immediate rights? What stepsdo I need to take to ensure that

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to happen? What obstacles could Ipotentially face that I need to prepare for?
Okay, so you need to firstgive us a call so we can
follow a paternity action. And first, can you do it this early?
I mean, if well, no, okay, sell me a back up.
In my brain, I'm still waitingfor the caffeine a kick in.
So we have to wait until thechild is born before we can file something.
Now, if we're like a monthout from the child being born,

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we could potentially go ahead and filesomething, but I usually like to wait
until the child is born. Andthe reason being is and I hate to
say this, and I know itsounds terrible, but God forbid something happens
to the baby. We want toThat's how the court kind of looks out
it. We want to wait tillthe child's born. As soon as the
child's born, then we can followa paternity action and have the judge adjudicate,
which is nothing more than a judgefinding you legally to be dad all

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right, because even if you're onthe birth certificate, even if you're you've
signed an acknowledgement a paternity at thehospital, that only gives you a presumption
in the state of Oklahoma that yourdad. Okay, So you have to
have a judge adjudicated, either throughDHS court or through district court to be
legally dead. Ones that's done,then we go for custody and visitation.

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That the law currently right now issuch that the parties would have fifty fifty
time share as well as joint custodyis where the courts have to start.
As far as you know, potentialpitfalls. I mean, we would have
to look at you know what yourbackground is. I mean, do you
have any felonies, do you haveany misdemeanors? Have you been investigated by
DHS I don't know any of thatbecause it's not given to us. But

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these are potential things that the courtwould have to consider and look at should
there be any issues on that.But unless there's something major, major,
it's going to be a joint custodyfifty fifty situation typically. But you're looking
at once the child's born, doingpaternity all that. That's not an immediate
results. No it's not. Soyou know, any court case, I
don't care what it is, allright, with very few exceptions, all

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right, it is not a quickprocess. You've heard the old adage of
the wheels of justice turned slow.Well, absolutely doesn't matter where you're at,
doesn't matter what you're doing. That'stypically how it goes. And that's
just part of it is is becausewe've got a finite amount of judges with
thousands and thousands and thousands of casesthat they all have to hear. So

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part of it is is just youknow numbers number one, number two.
For example, you can have pandemicspop up, which delayed things for a
year or so for almost everybody.So I mean there's different things, but
my point is is not a quickprocess. If you think you're going to
file and have everything done within thirtyor sixty days unless the parties. So

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the one exception to all of thisis always going to be if the parties
agreed. If the parties agree,we can draft something up quick, get
it signed by a judge quick,and get it entered quick, no problem,
all right, with the exception ofdivorces in Tulsa County, all right,
there is a ninety day waiting periodunder the law from the day you
file. Ninety days must run beforea judge can sign. Smaller counties outside

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of Tulsa typically will give waivers onthat. So if you make an agreement
on day twenty one, twenty two, you can get that sign right away.
Tulsa is a little more rigid aboutthat ninety days. But either way,
the exception to the rule is goingto be if the parties agree.
Otherwise, you know, if wehave to go through the court system and
do discovery and mediation and depositions andall these other things. I mean,

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you're looking at six months plus minimum, so there is a good chance they
would not be in that kid's lifefor at least minimum six months, probably
nine months to a year. No, And here's what I mean by that,
so once we file for paternity,the first thing we ask for is
a temporary order hearing, and atemporary order hearing is nothing more than the

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parties going before the judge asking foryou know, custody or visitation or whatever
it may be in the case ofa paternity action. So you know,
the courts try to get those setwithin you know, used to be two
to three weeks now it's more likefour five weeks, but you'll be within
that kid's life within four to fiveweeks once the person has been served with
notice that the paternity action, becauseeither the parties will reach an agreement at

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the temporary already hearing or the judgewill hear test timony and make a ruling
it on that day. So there'dbe a temporary situation resolved pretty quickly,
so you can start participating, correct, because there's a dad that wants to
participate, right, and that's important, and the courts recognize that. And
then they said that there it's aNative American child, the mother is Native

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American. Does that change anything?No, not when you're talking about divorces
or fraternity cases. It's only whenyou get into guardianships and adoptions and juvenile
cases that the tribes get involved.Otherwise they stay out of it during that
proceeding. So this says, I'mfreshly divorced and I'm finally getting an overnight

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with my two kids. My exwife insists that she's just gonna come in
my apartment check on them. Shefeels too needs to. Does she have
rights to do this? No,she doesn't. She has a right to
come in and check out your placeonce to see if it's safe. Okay,
you both have that for both sides. But outside of that, she
doesn't need to come in the frontdoor every time period. That's that's beyond

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control. Power trip and it needsto be stopped. What about parents that
are that you know they have thekid until five, but the other party
shows up at noon because they haveother things to do. They can go
sit on the front porch for allI care. You do not have to
turn your kid over. No,if you if your visitation time is until
five, you keep the kid tillfive just because the other side has quote

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something to do. I don't care. That's not it's you're infringing upon that
individual's time. You don't get into control it, even if you're the
soul custodian, suck it. Youcan't infringe on people's time, and if
you do, there are legal ramificationsthat could come against you, such as
contempt, citations and motions to enforcevisitation and all sorts of stuff. Should

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you choose to be that kind ofcontrol nut does. And you've mentioned this
before. I don't know the rightterm for what it is. But there's
what the order says, and thenthere's also trying to play nice to not
you know, right, so unrealistic, right, So you know, if
you an order is an order.But if you choose to let the kids
go early, all right, fine, but that's up to you. Understand

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that if your time is still five, you have a right to keep them
till five, no matter how belligerentand hateful the other side gets, and
vice versa. If the time isuntil five and you want to be nice
and let him keep him till seven, eight, ten, whatever. You
know, any deviation outside of anorder, if it's by mutual agreement of
the parties, not one side saying, you know, go to hell.

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I'm going to keep the kid becauseI hate you and I think you're a
bitch. That's not mutual consent ifit's mutual consent of two people acting like
real adults saying okay, I'm okaywith you keeping the kids, you know,
extra hours or extra night or something. Anytime that's done outside of the
order, great, that's called gettingalong and co parenting like you should be

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doing. Anyway. I mean anorder, whether it be temporary or final
order. Either way, those ordersare des signed and have always been designed
to be organic, meaning they're goingto grow and change, especially over time.
Where we are now is not necessarilywhere we're going to be in five
years down the road, when thesekids are five years older. You've got
to be able to grow and expandand to give and to take and do

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all these things. It's it's anorganic document where the parties can always choose
by mutual agreement to go outside thatwhatever is on that paper, and that's
the way it should be. Everyjudge will tell you that that document is
to fall back on should something happen, or give you a jumping off point
to start with. But it's notmeant to be like so many so many

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soul custodians have this. That's theway it's going to be. And if
you don't like it's I hate you, I'm soul custodian. That's what I
was going to follow up with,is what if the other party says they're
the soul, I'm the decider.I'm so well. Okay, So legal
decisions are different than visitation time,all right. So you know, if
you're going to be that horrible,nasty human being that says this is what

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the order says, you're not goingto ever get any more time outside of
that, then you're not doing yourjob as a soul custodian. You're being
a controlling nutbar and you need tostop and learn that that's not in your
child's best interest. Your job asa soul custodian, and every soul custodian,
ladies and men both out there listenedto me. Your job, all
right, is to help facilitate arelationship with the other side. I don't

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care how much you hate him orher. I don't care who cheated on
who. Okay, I don't carethat somebody took all the finances and flushed
them down the toilet or went outand you know, used it all on
only fans and hookers. I don'tcare you laugh. But I've got a
case. I don't care what theydid. That's not in the child's best

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interest to not see the other parent. And your job is to help facilitate
that. Right being the soul isn'tjust which school do they go to and
which doctor do they go to?That's also being in charge of the parent
plan essentially of making sure it's followedby the court order. Well, not
only that, but again helping facilitatethat relationship, which means sometimes they need

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more time, sometimes they need moreyou know, more hours, or you
know, making sure they're informing.These are the things a soulca setting are
supposed to do and if you're notdoing them, ladies and gentlemen, you're
failing. This text says, isthere an age that a child's voice holds
weight in court? Particularly in anegligence case. Now, I don't know

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what they mean by a negligence case, but I will say that once a
child turns the age of twelve inthe state of Oklahoma, their choice,
their words of what they want aretaken into consideration. Okay, it's not
a done deal, but it isgiven great weight. So what that means
is is the judge has to lookat everything from a global perspective. All
right, if the kid is choosingto go live with the other parents,

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it's the other parents a good parent. Are they a safe parent? Are
they a drug user? Are theyaddict? I mean, whatever it may
be. It's a global perspective.But I don't know what they mean by
a negligence case other than if it'sa juvenile case. It is in you're
in a juvenile court because you're dealingwith a deprived child case or something,
or neglect case or something like that. The child's voice has always given weight

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because they're the ones that's had theneglect or abuse done to them. Now,
there's certain kids, certain ages.I mean obviously a one year old
can't talk, and two year oldscan't talk, and three year olds kind
of can talk, and four yearold are getting better. I mean it
all depends upon their age obviously,but I mean, yeah, I mean
there's claims of abuse and neglect,then those are going to be taken into

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way, especially if the kids sayso. Text come in. What is
this attorney's name? This is Jefffrom Hensleyan Associates. He's here to answer
your questions about finally law and custodyand guardianship and he's available right now to
answer your questions at nine when eightfour six O came mode, or you
can text it like this one forJeff. My daughter moved out of my
house at seventeen. She's lived inthree different houses since she just turned nineteen
three weeks ago and has been kickedout of her current house. She has

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now moved in with their mother andhas interest in going to college. Do
I have to pay child support nowthat she lives with her mom and will
be going to college? No noteat all. I mean once a child
turns eighteen and either graduates or turnseighteen, whichever comes first. Okay,
so what that means is is ifthey don't turn eighteen till June or July

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or whatever, you would pay childsupport through their graduation date. But the
point of it is is that oncethey're an adult, you don't have to
pay for it, regardless if theygo to college or nine. Correct,
And we do not know college isinteresting because we're one of the and I
don't know how many states, butI know I know Hawaii and some other
states specifically have different requirements for payingfor college where it's actually required in some

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states if the kid chooses to gothose kind of things. We do not
have that in Oklahoma. So onceyour kid is eighteen and they're out the
door, you're not required to payanything. You don't have to pay for
room and board, you don't haveto pay for tuition, medical insurance.
You don't know, you don't haveto do that either. There's no legal
requirements. Now you want to dothose things, great, knock yourself out
whatever, if you can afford it, but it's not legally required by the

(01:47:08):
court system for those things to bepaid for. So once the kid is
eighteen, they're out the door.If they want to go back to mom,
that's finement. You don't have topay anything. There's no requirement legally
for you to do that. Ithought we carried our children until they were
like twenty fours. Now you havethe ability to you have the legal ability
to do so, and it's twentysix. I think now you have the
illegal ability to do that. Butit's not a legal requirement that you do

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that. That's just saying you're youknow, I'm a nice person, or
I can afford it, or whateverit may be. I want to help
my kid out, which is great, but not everybody can do that,
so there's no legal requirement, butyou do have the legal ability to do
that absolutely. Text coming in.Do all wills have to enter into probate?
Yes? Yes, the the onlything that stays out of probate.

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I mean you can have certain trustthat circumvent probate, and those are important.
So you know, if you needa will or a trust, either
one, give us a call.We can help you with that. But
no they will's yes not trust depends. And then Beth has a question.
Go ahead, Beth, you're onwith Jeff Hensley from Hensley and Associates.
Yeah, I was wanting to knowa mother tested positive from eth amphetamine and

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you had twins and my husband andI were going to adopt the twins.
Well we got his name is onthe birth certificate listed as the father,
but the DHS took the kids,and I want to know if the father
has any rights. So where arethe kids now? Are they in foster
care? Well? No, thereit's to call a safety plan, Okay,

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right, so if there's not beena juvenile case file, then you're
only working under a safety plan.We're going to have to establish a paternity
through district court. For him tohave rights. So he needs to give
me a call so we can getthat done for him. Because until he
does that and he's been eddicated hisdad, this is what we were talking
about earlier on the show, theyhave no legal rights. So he needs

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to give me a call. Ifyou'll give your name a number to Gimpy,
I can give you a holler.We can get that going. All
right, thank you, hang onthe line there, Bath. So as
that's a scenario if the kid wasborn before marriage or depending on when the
child was born, would imply thathe's got to prove he's the dad.
So if the child is born,I mean you have to look at and
I know this sounds it's to saythis, it sounds a little prurient and

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it doesn't mean to be. Imean there's a window you have to look
at three hundred dates, three hundreddays from the date of birth back and
forth to see, you know,is there a possibility that they were together
or not together? You know,physically, there's all sorts of things to
look at. If nobody is ifnobody is claiming that he's not dad,
then yes we can get all thatset up. And you know, if

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he's on the birth certificate and thosethings for those twins. Then you know,
again again that's a presumption, butit helps because that means no one's
disputing paternity at that point. So, and it's a classic example, you
got to have representational manager. Yeah, last one, what happens back child
support? Once a kid turns eighteen? Do they lose it? Lean on
the state? Well, it's stillit's still owed no matter what, even

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once they turn eighteen. Now here'sthe kicker. All right, you don't
want to wait until these kids arethirty two and try and get back support.
All right, it's just not goingto happen. The argument that's going
to be made on the other sideis is you know equitable stopple, which
means that you had all this timeto do something about it and you chose
not to. So they turn eighteenand their nineteen twenty years old, give

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me a call. We'll get allthat ticking go. But it's it's still
owed. It doesn't just disappear,it doesn't go poof, it goes away.
Okay, it's still owed no matterwhat. So what you would do
is we can file contempt citations toget them to pay. We can garnish
their bank accounts if we have ana judgment, our judgment, we can
garnish their paychecks. I mean,we have all sorts of remedies, but
again, you don't want to waitforever. Like I had someone call the

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other day that and I think thekids at that point were in their late
thirties, and it was something fromthirty years you know, twenty years ago
or whatever it was. I can'tor how long ago it was, but
they wanted to try and get childsupport, back support, and I'm like,
it's just not going to happen.There's case law against that for equitable
Stoppable basically says you had all thistime, Why now you shouldn't be able

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to do it because you've waited forso long. So don't wait, give
me a call. Let's get itnow before it's too late. I know
I said last one. But thisis a question I think is asking because
of father's rights, what if thefather signs paternity acknowledgment when placed on birth
certificate? What the question says,what if the father signs paternity acknowledgment when
placed on birth certificate? Well youhave to I mean, it's not either

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or it's both, but name ona birthtificate does not buy court standards say
you are the father. No,no again, even if you're on the
birth certificate, even if you've signedthe acknowledgement that is under the law Title
ten, subsection seventy seven hundred,all right, it only gives you a
presumption that's your dad, if it'sa child that's born out of wedlock.

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Right, only a presumption. We'renot talking about married people, talking about
unmarried couples or unmarried people having babies. Only gives a presumption. It does
not give you any legal rights toyour child. And it's been that way
since November first or two and eleven. All right, So dads, that's
the hell you've been living under sincetwenty eleven. I feel like that was

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important to point out. And Ican get quite complicated. That's why you
need representation that understands and can referencethe exact date when a law change.
And the folks at Hindling Associates ofthose people nine eight three nine eight five
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in Pahuska. It's the Shoemake LawFirm, so it's a different name,
but it's still Hinsling. I wouldjust left it because it'd been there for
so long. But yeah, ifyou have anything outside family law, they
do everything else for us up thereto in addition to family law. So
if you have been charged at thecrime, if you've got a speeding ticket,
if you've got a dui, anyof those kind of things, give
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(01:53:04):
damaged by somebody in the medical field, please give us a call. We
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outside family law, they can definitelyhelp with you up there as well.
And they do have great job sixPlease give them a call nine eight three
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say to eight two nine four five. So there's this story that happened in
New York where a twin streamer saidhe was going to give away PS fives
and gift cards and all these things, and people showed up to where he
was going to do this, anda ton of people showed up. And

(01:54:16):
he's the biggest streamer on Twitch.He has I think it was like eleven
million people on Twitch that watch hisvideos. His biggest streaming videos are of
him sleeping anyhow weird, I don'tunderstand, I know. And so he

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was gonna give away these gift cardsand people started mobbing, and people started
fighting, and they started climbing oncars. And then when he allegedly while
this was going on, he stillencouraged people to show up, and so
the New York City had to justI suppose the riot police out to try

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and control the crowd. People gotseverely injured. Police officers got injured.
At one point, apparently he wasin a car, or they believed he
was in a car, and allthe people like grabbed onto the car and
the car was speeding away and peoplefell off of it, all because this
guy was going to hand out somegift cards, yeah, and go away
some PS fives, which are greatprizes. Absolutely, I would do that

(01:55:25):
for a free PS five. Youwould riot show up. I would show
up for a five. I'm notshowing up for a PS five. Why
because everyone is showing up. Thechances of you getting it as small.
Right, There's no way that thestreamer can buy everybody one have enough.
There's just not enough supply. Yeah. I did even say in the beginning,
how many of these items here hewas giving away? I don't I

(01:55:47):
haven't watched the full video of himannouncing, come do this. Yeah,
but the City of New York hascharged him, oh for insiding and riot.
Yeah, as they should. AndI think he's probably gonna be held
accountable for the people that get injuredas well. Yeah they should, they
should. Those people wouldn't have gotteninjured. I mean, they could have
gotten injured, you know whatever.But if it wasn't for that guy and

(01:56:08):
doing this promotion or whatever, thehell that he's doing. Everybody lived their
life and been happy. So ifyou call someone to action and bad things
happened because of that action, yeahyou should be held accountable. Absolutely.
I don't disagree. Absolutely. Ifwe were out doing something and we said
something, you know, and itstarted a riot, I totally expect us,
the three of us, to bein liable for what happened. You

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know, even if it was oneof those why I didn't mean for it
to go that way. Okay,Yeah, accidents happened, but if it
wasn't for you doing this, thennone of this would have happened and everybody
would have been all right. Yeah, and the video's crazy. Of all
these people, I can imagine tryingto get a gift card or a PS

(01:56:53):
five or Yeah. I don't doanything. I don't even put my name
in for that car at the mall. I don't because I know I'm not
gonna win, but honestly don't knowanybody who has. No I'll sign Gimby's
name up for that. Of course, should lindsay phone for all the phone
calls? Yeah, that's right exactly. The spam emails stuff, much like

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when they ask if you'd like toround up to give money to X charity.
I don't do that either because Idon't know right, right, But
I don't know if they give thatcar away right. Like I said,
I've never I've never known anybody whowho has. Maybe somebody has, surely
somebody has, but I don't knowanybody. Publisher's clearinghouse, right, the
one with or without EG yes,either one. Yeah, they still happen.

(01:57:38):
Yeah they I mean they say theystill happen. I don't know anyone.
That's one. I've seen the peopleon the TV. Yes, balloons,
big check celebration. Yeah, butI also see the person that says
I suffer from chronic egzima, andso I take this. So it doesn't
mean they do, right, Sojust because I see it on TV doesn't

(01:57:59):
mean I believe it. No,But I mean I get it. People
people want they like free stuff.If it's for free, true, it's
for me and I'll take three,you know. So it doesn't matter if
it's a five dollars gift card ora five hundred dollars gift card. People
it's free, huh, I'll checkone of those. You're people will get

(01:58:23):
in, Like if you see aline and people are getting like a bag.
People don't just get in line.They don't even know what they're getting
or what it's for. I maynot even care. There's a good chance
that that's gonna end up in thegarbage. Oh yeah, that's even worse.
Man. It's like, come on, hard pass, I don't want
any of that. Hmm. Iwas gonna say, I can't tell you
how many remotes I go and dowell. People just like you could tell,

(01:58:46):
they don't listen, you know,they just see the van out there,
the truck or whatever, like,Hey, what kind of free stuff
got over here? Got some stickers, got some d shirts or something?
Nah? Man, I got abumber sticker and kozy with a man on
it. Hey go. Yeah.There's a guy on TikTok that I'll see
a few times, and he'll hewalks around with like this wheel and he

(01:59:10):
says to people, Hey, youwant ten dollars or do you want to
spend my wheel for a chance towin more money? And the folks will
be like, oh, I'll spinand it'll be like you can win another
spin on the wheel, or you'llwin twenty dollars or maybe fifty or a
surprise box or something. And it'llsay, hey, if you follow me
on TikTok, i'll give you anotherspin or something. But it's interesting.

(01:59:34):
Some of the stuff that he givesaway is really cool, and so I
think that's a way better way toget followers than for this guy to be
like, hey, show up atthis place and I'll give you away these
PlayStations. It's safer and the guyis pretty pretty interesting anyway, And a
lot of people are like, hey, I do follow you, and he's

(01:59:55):
like, oh, here's an extratwenty dollars. But everything I see on
TikTok, YouTube, whatever, Ijust don't believe because they can edit it
to look like anything. I don'tknow how long he set that person up.
I don't know who those people areright right, much like a magician,
and they're like, we've never metbefore. I'm like, yeah,
right, maybe they have or haven't. I don't know, But I just

(02:00:18):
don't believe when people make it looklike do you know long it takes to
edit a video. It's not fast, right, and even if you've done
it for a while, it stilltakes some process. It's still a process.
So that means they put effort intoit and they're not just willy nilly
in it, right, So Ijust tend to not believe it's as genuine

(02:00:43):
or as authentic as it looks.I don't believe it just simply because it's
on social media, you know,will do anything for likes, anything for
clicks, and I'm I don't buyit. I don't buy it one bit.
I'm sure maybe it started off welland then one video like they did
it one time, right, andthen one video got thousands of views and

(02:01:05):
they're like, who, we needto keep doing stuff like this as we
can get more likes, get moreviews, whatever. Too. There's a
couple of videos I see that Ido tend to believe. And it's like
one where a guy is holding asign and he says I need a hug,
and no one hugs him. Andthen he's got a sign and he

(02:01:26):
flips it over at one point andit's got money attached to it and it
says free money, and people justcome out at like that's the world we
live. Or there's one with thisguy and he just walks up next to
people and like holds their hand.Yeah, oh no, no, no,
that's not he does. He comesup and he grabs their elbow and

(02:01:46):
he but he's acting like he's blindand people flip out and I'm like,
yeah, he's not really blind,there's no right. It's like that guy
that walking around pretending he's blind withthe stuffed dog. It starts barking at
him. I love that videos thehello and they freaked the hell out.

(02:02:08):
He's literally got the dog in theair. It's a stuffed dog. It
is not a real dog. Yeah. Absolutely, But you don't know.
They don't know. Maybe they do, I don't know. Still hilarious.
Yeah, you can do that.Just do that with your spouse when you're
next time you're taking trash out tothe garage and be like, oh god,
there it is and start running.They will run with you because they

(02:02:30):
don't. They just trust you.All Right, we gotta take a break.
We'll be back until this morning showthem being bad morning shows. Congenuus
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it. And I've also learned thatmy brid of water filter sure was a

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good investment. Can be. What'dyou learned today? I learned that,
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the walls and some people literally sprayus on the walls. I also learned
that Corby got excited to hear Mantalk about the tips. I learned Gimpy

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is the stabbing guys with his smallblade expert in the room. And I
also learned in true PTA mom vibes, Lindsay would riot for a gift card
Corby and say make sure that dishwashersloaded right, stop tracking my cycle.
This is Gimpy and I'm sorry,Daddy. Who can I get a cook?

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