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and every day. Good morning,Lindsay, Good morning Corbyn, Well,
good morning Gimbi, Well, goodmorning Corbin. We've got pit seats for

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Jeff Dunham at the Bok Center onFriday, the twenty sixth of this month.
Tickets available Bokcenter dot com. Bythe way, I just looked that
show. Damn near sold out.Yeah right, but that's what happens when
your tickets are fifty six dollars each. Yes, and he probably could warrant

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a high ticket price. We see. Yeah. Uh, we've got best
and worst of the weekend. We'vegot our listeners are awesome, and Jeff
Finsley is gonna join us. Yougot a question about divorce, custody,
guardianship, any of those things.Jeff will be in the studio to answer
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Camody is a part of, includingVIP Weekend Rock Oklahoma tickets from Yngling,
America's oldest brewery until his rock stationninety seventy five kmo D. I am
not clear if that will include theDunham tickets, So if you're pinning your
hopes of winning on that, it'safter the giveaway, it technically is,
so I don't but I don't know. I mean, we've always said it's

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not a it's not a concert,true to it. Yeah, it's a
shoe. I would think it's aperformance. If you want to dig in
on that, I'm sure Brady willBlige. Hey man, I want to
see the puppet Master. Hell no, give me my tickets. I must
see Honesty, Alapenol and Peanut.I don't know if he does the terrorist

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guy anymore. Oh, yeah,you think so. It was Akabed,
Akabed, whatever his name is.Yeah, it just lands a little different.
It does that your glands a littledifferent. You guys will see.
Don't make fun of me for mypuppets. I'm gonna be big one day.

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I can probably say he's the mostsuccessful ventriloquist out there ever, because
I don't know who second, Iwouldn't name one. I can't name a
single other one besides Jeff Dunn.I can. I can't name her last
name, Sherry, No, Sherrythat had the puppet show with the for

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the love that you're explaining, like, I know it. I love that
it was. Uh, there's ayoung girl from Oklahoma. THO was on
a g T and she she waspretty big. She had a Vegas deal.
Jeff, I feel like we've talkedabout this before. What do you
think Jef Dunham's net worth is?Oh, God for playing with dolls,
all big, two d and fiftymillion. Okay. I want to disagree

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with Lindsey on that one. Iwill. I mean, I don't think
it's two hundred and fifty million big, maybe one hundred and twenty five.
But I feel like maybe GIMP's closerone hundred and forty million, Okay,
playing with dolls? I listen.I hope not, But wouldn't it be
amazing if there was like this documentarylater about him and he's like puff Daddy

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or something. Oh god, ohGod, Like he's so innocent, right,
everybody's got that dark side of him. Man, it depends on how
dark it gets. Yeah, everybody'sgot it dark. To be fair,
I have only heard awesome things abouthim, and I'm being one hundred percent
honest. Puff Daddy. I've neverheard anything about except for the news,

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right, Sully, we've met abunch of times. I'll only things.
There are other musicians I have metor have heard about, on whether they
are good or bad people. Somehave never heard anything about. I have
actually heard good things about Jeff Dunham, very cordial, takes the time,
super nice, isn't like yeah,yeah, yeah, I got puppets to
make a right, I gotta goshove my hand up, Walter, I

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gotta rehearse. Nobody's asking him todo the merman. I'm sure that would
be awesome though, if he's gettingthis sexy timing, like starts pulling out
voices because vent she TRULUQUI was theythrow their voice? Right? No,
they don't throw you just don't.You don't see them. Nonetheless, throwing
their voice is a misnomer. It'snot real. No, No, I

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mean, but he does because there'sthe bits that he does where like Walter's
in the box and he's playing withPeanut or whatever, and then Walter's voice
sounds like it's coming from inside thebox, so he's Yeah, either way,
he's a very talented individual. Andif he's doing like he's getting busy
with some ten right model, whatever, and then like hear Walter's voice coming
from the closet or peanuts, doWalter do Walter? That would be awesome.

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Yeah, Or if he just likemade another voice and like did you
hear that in the middle of it, like I think someone's in here with
us. Oh god, when he'shere on the phone with him, you're
like stopping, Jeff Sherry Lewis lambchop. You looked it up? Yeah?
Oh yeah, God, how oldis that? Is she even alive
anymore? Oh? No? No? Her daughter, God damn, why
do I know this? This isawesome? Go go dark. Her daughter,

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who looks exactly like or has takenover for the voice of Lamb Chop
and goes out and does sets withLamb Chop and like an homage to her
mom. Yes, I know this. That is amazing. First of all,
she she did Vegas like she waskind of like a strip person,
not strip like take clothes off striplike on the Vegas strip. She had

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a gig, yes, yeah,but I didn't know she was in such
a demand that Lamb Chop still hadto do show. Yeah, I guess.
I don't know if it's land.I don't know if she's doing it
in Vegas whatever. I found iton the TikTok. You know it just
uh huh. Yeah. Listen,I liked lan Chop growing up. And
Charlie Horse. Oh my god.Yeah, I don't even I know Lamb
Chop. I don't know Charlie Horse. Yes, it goes on and on

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my friend Okay, yeah, Iremember her singing that. Yeah, she
was funny. She was on JohnnyCarson a lot. Oh yeah, yeah,
yeah, you glad we're talking aboutthis for my mom and an innocent
girl. We think anyway, wethink she in all honesty. She looked
like she was on cocaine. Ninetypercent of the time. Well, she
did have a big eight ball jacketfrom back in the day. I remember

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that when she was still just broadcastingI do cocaine. Yeah, oh yeah,
maybe she didn't. Maybe it wasjust a cool looking jacket. But
I'm like, maybe she her familyhad a billiards empire. Maybe so,
maybe so I'd like to see thatbehind the scenes. Yeah, behind the
scenes, she was just an alcoholicand abuser, huge coke head. Lamb

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Chop speaks out finally against Sherry.She had her hinder branch these years.
I just I just had your choice. Dear, why are you doing call
them as close to Lamb Chop waslike, I'm okay, if you never
or anyone never does a Lamb Chopimpression again on the show, I will

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sleep. Okay. I can't promisethat's gonna happen. Man, Listen,
nobody had Lamb Chop impression on theirbingo card. Oh this week or another?
Well, what a way to startthe week off. You wonder why
we are your number one morning show, It is because of the diversity.
You want to talk about yeast andbreaking bread, We got you covered.

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You want to talk about Lamb Chopbecause your mom was wondering as her if
she's fading off into death. Whathappened to Lamb Chop. We got that
covered. Also, we can talkabout something the young kids are talking about,
like p Diddy or Justin Bieber kissingJaden. What are the Smith kids?

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Yeah, yeah, I saw thatTikTok before the show started. Was
like, that's a little weird,but I didn't think it was that weird.
Whatever they they weren't slipping tongue.No, the video did not show
them slipping tongue. Just a littlesmooch, just a smooch, smooch.
It's probably a dare that's where itstarts. Or they're completely secure in their

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manhood they do not care. It'sjust a kiss on the cheek and a
hug exactly. Sidebar. I don'tdo that with any of my friends,
nor why nor do that doesn't makeit one way or another. By the
way, I mean, if thisis something we gotta start doing, Gorman,

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pucker up, why would you haveto start doing it? I mean
they technically started it. No andJade and so I mean no, if
that's how guys greet each other.Nowadays, straight men have embraced each other
and kissed each other for deck,for generations. I've got a lot of
dude friends, and I'll hug afriend. I got no problem with that.

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I'll go up boom, bringing inclose two arms. Brothers don't shake
hands, brothers got a hug.But I have never once said brothers don't
shake hands, brothers got a kiss. Listen, saying it and doing it
is one thing. Just doing itis another. Next time I see one

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of my my giant biker friends upat the pump and just gonna go up
and lay one right on one,right on the kissers. Do they kiss
on the lips? I don't thinkthey kissed on the lips. Like,
So, you've never kissed a malefriend like on the cheek? Oh?
No, never, I'm sure Ihave. I'm not comfortable in saying never
outside of my children. No,never, not my brother, and he's

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the closest one to me. Right, you've never kissed your brother like on
the cheek. Let me let megeneralize the question without any implication. You've
never kissed your brother? No interestingbig hugs, handshake? Yeah. Again.
I don't think one or the othermakes it less or more in terms
of you love them, right,Absolutely, but it also doesn't make doing

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that more or less weird. Thismillennia, do what you want to do,
man again, people have been huggingand kissing for generations. I know,
I know they and it doesn't meanone thing or another. Only for
the insecure it does sure. Sure. Speaking of really weird, they found

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the bodies of those two women inthe Panhandle of Oklahoma. And if the
story couldn't get more weird because wedidn't know much about what was going on,
Oh boy, now those are theones that were in Kansas and then
went to drop some kids off.They were going to pick up one of
their kids, one of the oneof the women's children, and unbeknownst to
us because they kept it a secret, she was going to pick up her

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children that she was in a bittercustody battle with her ex. Come to
find out they've arrested four people,one of the women. One of the
people arrested is her ex grandmother andthe grandmother to the children, and her
boyfriend and then two other idiots.So I'm sure we'll get more details.

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And but to me, let meget this straight. Y'all were sitting down
cracking some beers or whatever, andyou're like my ex daughter in law.
Somebody was like, well, youknow what we could do, We could
take care of it. Yeah,and two other people went, yeah,
let's do it. All right,I'm in exactly. I must not like

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my friends enough to include them onmurder. Yeah, okay, or if
one of my friends or family membersshort of like I could maybe get talked
into if they like hurt somebody Icare about, right, But that we
don't. As far as we know, none of that. None of that
happened. It was just a disputeof custody. I could if they were

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like, come on, let's gokill them, kidnap and kill them,
I'd be like, oh, oreven even less be like, let's just
scare them. I'd be like,hell no, I'm good. I'm good
on that. Hell no, Wellwho and is she alone? Like,
oh, she's bringing the preacher's wifewith her to come and get these kids,
right or one of her friends church? Yeah, right to be.

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I don't think I could be talkedinto that. Yeah. Right. It's
one thing to like take out thebaby mama in this case, but now
you got to take out the babymama and her friend because you know,
no witnesses. I'm good, right, I'm good on all that. I
just I can't wrap my head aroundhow how bad was that? What was

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the issue that made you want togo south that fast? You didn't like
sharing custody? Right, more thanlikely is what it was inconvenient tax time.
It is around tax time, earnedincome credit, child tax credit.
I should get that money, youshould get that money. I've seen many
of of X's go at it becauseof that over the tax credit. Okay,

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yeah, oh yeah, So Icould see how something like that would
lead them to murder exactly exactly,or a custody thing, which is hilarious
because it's like, I can't havecustody my kids, so I'm going to
kill you so I can. Butnow you're in jail, and so you're

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not getting custody. So this whatyou're describing right there is one of the
biggest reasons why I love learning psychologyand learning why people do what they do,
because they they believed so much thatthey were in the right One they
wouldn't get caught, right, andtwo that that's the judge and jury or
whatever would side with them. Right. That's how much they were a believe

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in their thoughts, which you couldargue is crazy, psychopathic absolutely yeah,
or narcissistic even yeah, a combinationof all of them. Whatever. Yeah,
but hey, listen, at leastthey found the people responsible and there'll
be some kind of justice there.It isn't like. So we started watching.
There is a show on Max hostedby a Holly Madison called Lethally Blonde,

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and it is about women and thatare somehow involved in in the sexual
nature true crimes. And the firstone was about the only Fans model who
killed her boyfriend in Miami, andthey kind of go in depth on it,
and initially they she played self defense, right, and then they found

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all this footage of her beating theus out of him in like an elevator
and getting interested in Vegas for throwingthings at him and stuff like that,
and you find out and then hewas video secretly recording her and she was
just crazy all the time, likeshe believed she had power over him because
she was providing money and he wassubmissive to it because she was beautiful and

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paid for everything and didn't want tolose all this. And so that's a
completely different thing. This is anoutsider going. We'll intercept them. That's
a plan and plot right, andintercept them and then boom, yeah,
kill them. This text here saysthe kids were being molested in the mother's

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home. I don't know that.I haven't heard any of that. Yeah,
but that still doesn't justify, youknow, the actions, And why
would you kill the mom for that? Wouldn't you kill it? Is she
the one doing it? Right?Noah was in her house? Sure?
Not good? Not okay? Andwouldn't you read then report that you would
think and let the authorities handle that. I would think DHS take the kids

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out of her home. Yeah,but there would be an investigation. Some
people think that, oh, well, you know, the system is jacked
and it's not gonna work for me, so therefore I've got to take matters
into my own hands. So youdo that. Now you're never gonna see
those kids again. Yet, notonly not only that, but if they
find out the X had anything todo with it, he'll be going to

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yep. So now you just screwedthose kids even more because the foster systems
better. Right. I just can'timagine sitting around like if I was friend.
Let's just say we were sitting downeating, right, and you're like,
man, my ex, will youhelp me take care of her?
We would never do anything again,Like I would feel a responsibility to try

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and stop it, even if they'relike you were joking. I mean,
like, that's not funny, man, because now you've included me because you
said it out loud yep, andthen now you're in trouble because you didn't
report no, thank you. Yeah, that's a little different than embezzlement,

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which is also not okay. Butif I hear like, you know what
we should do, we should justtake some staplers, I'd be like,
I don't know anything about that,right, you know we should do we
should murder these people. Yeah,we should ask Jeff about that because I'm
sure I'm sure he'll have a takeon it too. All Right, we
got to take a break. We'vegot pit seats for Jeff Dunham. Well
they're four seats, but whatever.It's the same thing, right, That's

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happening next Friday at the Bok Center. Tickets available bokacenter dot com. We
got best and Worst of the weekend. Our listeners are awesome and Jeff Finsley
will join us to answer questions aboutdivorce and custody, so because you have
other options than murder, and we'regonna qualify more people for see them all
twenty twenty four, We'll be back. Tilsa's Morning Show continues next with a
Big Man Morning Show on Tilsa's run. Good Morning, It's the Big Man

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Morning Shown six oh kmod. Youcan also text bmms and then what you
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These are stories you may have missedin the news. We cover them
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Com slash bmms six nine It's timefor newsquakies. World news, local news,
and news that just makes you say, what the Here's Corbyn Gimbia Lindsay

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with what's going on newsquakies from TheBig Man Morning Show. In nineties,
O the five Woman bites a fellowJim Goer's finger off for taking too long
on the machine. A fight brokeout after a woman named Rosanna accused another
named Letitia of using a leg pressfor too long at Gymnasio Great Fitness Workout

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Center in Monterey, Mexico. InTV footage recorded on April first, Letitia
who's sixty six years old, canbe seen jumping up to confront her accuser
before the two get physical, anddespite other people attempting to pull them apart,
Rosanna, who is forty four yearsold, soon manages to grab Latitia's

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hair and begins dragging her along thegym floor, and as the two continue
to grapple, Leticia bites off herrival's finger. That's impressive, yeah.
Rosanna is later seen being comforted bya man, at which point she realizes
she's been bitten, and then shefaints, so a member of staff is

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fanning her with a towel. Othersarrive with water and a medical kit.
Photos were taken in the aftermath.They show her right hand with the tip
of her of her little finger missing. A plastic bag shows the fingertips still
with red nail polish on it afterit was collected for evidence. Another picture
shows a defiant looking Letitia handcuff standingbeside a police car. Police arrested both

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women, and the gym managers toldlocal media that both of their memberships had
been canceled. Letitia reportedly faces chargesof assault, while Rosanna is said to
be recovering from her injuries. Itis currently unclear if doctors were unable to
reattach her digit. Yeah, sheprobably won't. It is. It's a
really bizarre video. Like one ofthem looks like she works out a lot,

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the other doesn't look like she worksout as much, and then a
third one must be her first day, right, man, Street girl fights
are the greatest. That's not evena street fight. That's just two idiots.
No, and I say street girlfights because they're not in a ring
or whatever. It's not sanctioned whatnot. You know, seeing girls in the

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MMA is fantastic in all, butthey don't just pull on shirts and pull
hair and drag them across the ringlike they do in the streets. Yeah,
yeah, street I'm sorry, Jimbrats many guys or girls, there's
a lot of them out there.The ones that I I enjoy watching right
now are the people that are likeyou, just you just walk through my
video. Shut up, right,it's a gym, it's not a production

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studio, right. You're there towork out, not to get clicks.
You should have been working at theno judgment zone. People still judge just
saying man steals luxury vibrators. Idon't know what makes them luxury. Maybe
you know, sheeps will I don'tknow. But nonetheless, this happens up
with Saint Louis last week, wherea dude goes into his local hustler Hollywood

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store and he steals eight vibrators fromthe display, shoves them in an old
white trash sack, and then runsout the door. Well, the thing
is is is the employees there atthe Dilda shop they recognize the man because
he was in there just the daybefore, causing a ruckus to the point
to where they asked him to leave. Also, he has a giant three

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one four neck tatoo. Well,yeah, he's representing. Yeah, he's
man. Don't question his pride.I got no problem with it. Be
pride. Get your area code tattooedon you somewhere. But if you're trying
to, you know, I don'tknow, not get caught up in a
crime. Maybe one that's not theentire size of your neck would be a
way to get away from it.Hy, he's no pussy, that's right,

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that's right. He's way better thanI am. Nonetheless, so the
police ended up catching this guy.He got popped for felony thefts. And
they say that these Vibrate tours.All of them, all eight of them
collectively cost fifteen one hundred dollars.Fifteen was a fifteen thirty nine and twenty
cents fifteen hundred dollars. Wow,Vibrate tours. I don't know what these

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things do to cost so much.Maybe you know what has AMFM radio on
it and cheese great or something.I don't know, but good lord.
Facebook Marketplace to me is just you'reasking for a problem. Oh yeah,
occasionally I think you can find agood deal and occasionally it works out,
but I would be suss of peoplethat have stolen things. Yeah, and

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then you're buying stolen merchandise right,or you're trying to steal something and give
robbed. A buddy of mine tryto sell like an old iPhone or something
on a marketplace and they ended uprobbing in the parking lot. Yeah.
How insane is that? I sawthese people. They clearly were doing some
sort of like marketplace sale in frontof the Walmart. But it was like

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meet me at by the street,so there's plenty of people seen, and
like you could tell, they werevery very assertive with making sure everybody saw
them all right. Coals usually aren'ta lot very visible, No, especially
if you're in the middle of theparking lot right, you know, right,
not up by the entrance or whatever. Not a less. Yeah,

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this one's awesome. Women wanted fordrugging robbing men in Austin. A woman
who already had dozens of rest warrantsactive in Austin now has two more.
The latest arrest warrants for Destiny SionRobinson says that on at least two occasions
occasions she posed as a ride sharedriver, drugged the men who got in
her vehicle, and then stole theircell phones and wallets. She's accused of

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using one man's credit cards for eleventhousand dollars in fraudulent transactions. The other
men say there was more like twentyfour thousand dollars worth of unauthorized purchases in
ATM transactions. Police to use rentalcar documents, cell phone records and ATM
that's the automated machine to give youmoney, video link to link this person

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to all these crimes. There arecurrently twenty nine active warrants for her arrest
in Travis County, which is thecounty that Austin's in. So when I
read into this a little bit more. So she would just drive down the
street and be like hey, hey, and then the per dude she would
target mails, they would get inthe car and sit in the front seat
with her because they wouldn't check.Men are like I don't need to check
you and gonna kidnap me dirt andthen whatever, she'd be friendly or flirtatious.

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I'm sure these people probably might evenbe drunk, and she she would
have a cup of something and offerthem a drink and they would take it.
And then they wake up at homeand not sure how they got home
or remember getting home, and thenthey'd realize all their stuff is gone,
not even know how long they've beenout right, which means somebody was helping
her. Yeah, like she hada tail. And then so they'd pass

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out, and then they would Iguess, go to the house. Yeah,
and then put her in put himin the house. Yeah, she's
not lifting these guys by herself.No, no, No, she ain't
a tiny girl, but she nonetheless, I don't think she's you know,
I don't know what these dudes lookedlike. They could have looked like DJ
Qualls for all I know. Theycould be a bunch of gals gotten together.
You know, sure they doesn't haveto be dudes that are helping her,

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right, but traditionally right. Uh? And who gets in a car
of a stranger goes yeah, I'lltake a drink of that, right,
Uh, probably somebody who thought shewas prostitute. That could be do prostitutes
front as ride shair drivers. Imean, it's twenty twenty four, You
never know, right, it's notjust twenty You could just say that any

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year. You don't have to designatetwenty twenty four. Every year time.
Every year is a new time.Uh huh, all right. All these
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Four six oh KMOD. You canalso text BMMS and then what you
want to say to eight two ninefour five. This weekend was UFC three
hundred and Max Holloway and Justin Geecheewere in this fake title fight. It's
called BMF. I'll let you figureout what the acronym means. And Justin

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Geigee's known for being nasty, justa nasty fighter in terms of his ability
to knock people out. Holloway kindof the same thing, Like over half
his some thirty odd fights are knockouts. Anyway. So they were fighting and
I just sent you the video linkin the last you sent us a name.
I was like, what the hellI want to do with this information?

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That'sir there we go. And soin the video Gatechee's kind of circling
and Halloway's like, no, no, no, stand here, Let's bang
it out. And he was probablywinning too. And if it would have
went to decision and they just startthrowing bombs at each other and knocks Gay

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Chie cold out starches him. Yeah, yeah, he does with one second
on the clock. Easily fight ofthe year, Easily knockout of the year.
It was so insane, and somewould argue that Holloway was was Moon,
you know, his son, thesun was setting on his career.
But oooh, my gosh, justa nasty knockout. Two guys just beating

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the ass out of one hundred andfifty five pounds is what that weight class
there in is and just nasty.Oh while wearing the prettiest shorts I've ever
seen on a guy in the octagon. I've never seen flowers on He's Hawaiian.
Okay makes sense. Cracis no Andspeaking of UFC, Connor McGregor's comeback

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fight has now been made official.CEO Dana White announced Saturday that McGregor will
fight Michael Chandler long the planned matchup, in the main event of uf three
oh three on June twenty ninth inVegas. The card will highlight the UFC's
annual International Fight Week. McGregor hadsaid on January first that he'd be fighting

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Chandler on that date, but itwas not made efficient until White's announcement.
White said the fight would take placeat one hundred and seventy pounds. McGregor,
the biggest star in UFC history,has not fought since July of twenty
twenty one, when he broke hisleft leg in a fight with Dustin Poyer.
MacGregor said Chandler coached against one anotheron The Ultimate Fighter in twenty twenty

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three, with the plan being thatthe two would fight after the conclusion of
the reality show. McGregor has justone UFC victory since twenty sixteen. And
has fought only four times since then, not including a blockbuster boxing match against
Floyd Mayweather in twenty seventeen. TheIreland fighter lost back to back fights to

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Poyer in twenty twenty one, thelatter via TKO due to the oken leg
I don't I don't know if Ihave faith that this is gonna happen.
Why not? You just gave abunch of reasons why he hasn't fought in
a long time. He doesn't needto fight, right, does he have
the discipline to fight? We meaning, can he go to the gym that

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he needs to. He's making somuch money doing other things. Why go
through all that. Chandler hasn't foughtsince November of twenty twenty two, but
he has been training. He trainsout of Florida. He's uh, he
is a three time champion. Yeah. No, Chandler's a stud. These
two guys are studs. Yeah,and he's thirty seven years old. There's

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no reason if I am Connor McGregor, besides my love for it. Mm
hm, why do I have tofight? It's it's more of a burden
because he's making so much money notgetting punched in the face. Yeah,
his career. What's what's a wingonna solidify for him? Nothing? Nothing,

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He's already arguably you've got to havehim in the conversation of a guy
who helped change the fight game,right, So what more does he need
to accomplish? He's won belts?Yeah, so what taking this fight and
getting punched in the face accomplishes?What I think because he's such a narcissist,
he wants to come back and provethat he can win one more time.

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It's got it. Yeah, Butit's also a business decision. Do
you go and get punched in theface and maybe gets pretty injured where you
could not do anything for six weeks, ten weeks, or do you just
not and keep making a lot ofmoney and doing coke or whatever it is
he's making crappy whatever it is.I don't see this fight happen. And

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Not this Saturday of the twentieth,because that's four twenty, but next
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so let's go ahead and do bestand worst of the weekend. What's the
best thing that happened this weekend?And the worst thing that happened this weekend?
BMMS and whatever that is to eighttwo, nine four five, or

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you can call it nine one eightfour six, Oh, kmod, lindsay
what's the best and what's the worst? I suppose the worst would have to
be, uh, the windy weatheron Saturday at the lacrosse fields. It
was very harsh on my sinuses andI feel like I was blowing dirt out
of my nose all weekend, andjust as I thought I was feeling a

(36:40):
bit better, boom, I wasn't. It was like, you know,
three steps backwards. It was justblowing so terribly. The temperature was great.
I loved that, but when justruined it for me, the best
part was I got to be alittle selfish and do some stuff for myself.

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Aside from laundry. This weekend,late Saturday night and all day yesterday,
I binge watched an entire series onPeacock and it was awesome. I
watched Apple's Never Fall with Sam Neiland Annette Benning. Who's Sam Neil.
He was the archaeologist in the originalJurassic Park. Okay, yeah, he

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plays the matriarch of the family StanDelaney. He is a retired tennis pro
and tennis coach, and him andhis wife, Annette Benning, they retire
from owning a tennis academy and theyhave four kids, and all of a
sudden, his wife goes missing andhe's kind of like covering, like,

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oh no, mom's asleep. She'sfeeling under the weather, telling the neighbors
the same thing. But she's missing. Yeah, and the kids can't get
a hold of Mom, and thenthey assume what happened to her, And
then a bloody sweatshirt gets found buriedin the neighbor's yard and so now the
kids think Dad had something to dowith Mom's disappearance, and they think that

(38:09):
she was murdered, and then Dadgets arrested for murdering Mom, and in
the end, Mom is found alive. Gone girl. Yeah, pretty much.
Yeah, she staged it, shedidn't, well, yes and no,
I mean she disappears because she feelslike everyone is ignoring her and she's

(38:34):
not needed. She a little bit. Yeah. Yeah, but there's a
lot of twists and turns in it, but it's it was a really good
series, only seven episodes, butit flew and it was just nice to
just have the TV to myself andjust enjoy some mean time. So best
and worst of the weekend? What'sthe best thing that happened this weekend?
And the worst thing that happened thisweekend? Gimbi, what's the best and

(38:58):
what's the worst? Oh? Iguess the best thing would have been Camodi
spring fling thing on Saturday with starsset over at the Tulsa Theater. It's
pretty awesome. They put on agreat show. A lot of visual effects
took up the entire stage. Sothey're like, hey, Gippy, I
know we had you plan to doa stage announcement, but we need you
to do that from the back ofa house where nobody can see you.

(39:21):
On more. You cannot see me, but you can hear me. So
that was that was interesting. Thatwas a lot of fun. Went with
some friends, took the Lady.We we all just had a great time
doing that. Really didn't have aworst of the weekend, to be honest
with you, I guess if Ihad to have something to fill in that
slot. I lost to the Chiefsand Madden this weekend. But it wasn't

(39:45):
like a counter or anything. Yeah, it's right, it's regular season anyway,
no win messing your allergies up.But that is true. It's not
blowing mud out of my nose,but you know, still, it is
what it is. Worst of theweekend. What's the best thing that happened
this weekend and the worst thing thathappened this weekend. I'm a little hard

(40:06):
pressed to find a best but theone that I picked is we did family
pizza night, and I made anew type of pizza crust for I've been
dabbling in Detroit pan pizza and itsucked. It was so bad I didn't
even need it. So the bestis I know now not to make that.
Was it a particular ingredient or justthe crust itself. It was the

(40:30):
crust, Okay, yeah, okay, because Detroit is very thick, very
super crispy around the edge, andso I've been trying to master that and
like figure it out, and thisnew recipe out a lot of faith.
And then then when I made it, I was like, well, this
doesn't look good at all and itdidn't taste good. So that's okay.
It isn't fifty seven times Yeah,sow long take to make ketchup. Is

(40:53):
it so thick, like almost likeChicago deep dish type thick? Well,
Chicago deep dishes down like a pantlike a pie crust thick implies thick.
Yeah, is it the whole damnthing? Though? Yeah, it's pretty
thick. Again, it's just adifferent type of pizza and so yeah,

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so that was the best. Theworst would be On Saturday, my youngest
woke us up in the middle ofthe night vomiting again, and she proceeded
to vomit a lot, and atnine thirty we decided to take her to
the hospital. So I spent allday at the hospital yesterday. And it

(41:34):
sucks. Going to the hospital issuch a bizarre place because you somebody could
the most amazing things, miraculous andtragic things are happening within feet of each
other, and you don't know becausethese doors are separating you, and the
nurses come in and act like itain't a thing, and so it's really
bizarre place if you think about it. And yeah, so we spent there.

(41:58):
We were there nine hours, Ithink, think, and it sucks.
And still she's she's not vomited anymore, but she's still not better,
and so we don't know what's what'sgoing on. So that's fun. That's
that's a good time. Sorry,Yeah, why that just sucks. I'm
sorry that she's I'm sorry. I'msorry. You're in the wind, all

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right. Best and worst of theweekend? What's the best thing that happened
this weekend? And the worst thingthat happened this weekend? Best road trip
to Texas to see ninety three yearold grandma, Worst pay my taxes.
That's right, Today's tax day.Do a lot of people still wait to
do taxes on this day? Iusually don't, but this is the first
time ever I haven't filed my taxesyet. What are you doing them tonight?
When I go home? Do youstill have Do you have somebody do

(42:43):
yours? No? No, Ijust go ahead and do it online or
whatever, make turbo tax it whatever. Does that stress you out? Not?
Really, it's just punching in numbers. When you owe money, you're
not so much in the You knowhere, go ahead and take more of
my money. You know what Imean? So is what it is.
Best took my nephew to see tySmith. Worst, he just got paid

(43:05):
and lost his wallet, got thecar locked in the library downtown. That
sucks. Best got my new Samsungrefrigerator. Worst got second place in the
O'KINI rattlesnake competition. Lost by threefourths of an inch. That's what she
said. Tom. So I'm guessingwhat you do you capture or kill that?

(43:29):
I don't know. I know thatthere's certain places that have a rattlesnake
hunt, and maybe that's what thisis. This is a roundup the eighty
fifth annual. So it's just like, how many rattlesnakes you can wrangle?
Yeah, I guess wers Uh Yeah, I'm out. Yeah, I have

(43:52):
too dangerous. What do you geta T shirt? It's a pile of
rattlesnakes right there. That is abig old pile of rattlesnakes. I'm out.
Ah, I'm out. Any personhunting that I didn't know this.
Any person hunting, pursuing, trapping, harassing, catch and killing, taking
or attempting to take in any mannyany species of rattlesnake during an organized rattlesnake

(44:15):
hunt event or festival must have arattlesnake permit. I didn't know that was
a thing. I didn't either.It feels I guess that's a good thing.
That all sounds like a learned lessontype of rule. What hell?
For the professional division you get onehundred and fifty dollars for first place,
that's it. Local division you getseventy five, and you get bragging rights

(44:39):
f all of that. I meanpeople that do it. They just Testmont
just did a feature of a guywho does it, and she went with
them, and I was watching itis really fascinating because rattlesnakes are right there,
like you will step on one.They're very good at camouflage, and

(45:01):
there were many times they'd show andthey'd walk by, and then they'd retrace
their steps and boom, there'd bea rout snake right there. They walked
right by it. Yeah, I'mout. It feels like if you're hunting
and finding these rattlesnakes, you're doingsociety a favor by catching them, and
you know you should get more thanone hundred fifty bucks. I mean,

(45:22):
rattlesnakes aren't a pest in terms oflike kutsu or sparrows or things like that,
and true, right, so likeif you exting them all, then
you're messing up the chain. Right. It's not like the gators in Florida,
Louisiana or you know, was itanakonas down there? Yeah? Yeah,

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the invasive species. Listen to thisnineteen thirty nine to remove the hunt
was originally started in nineteen thirty nineto remove venomous reptiles to protect cattle and
overall safety. Listen to this namethis is awesome. Orville von Goldker was
the man who decided to turn theSpringtual into an annual competition. Large of
these snakes captured are entered into oneyearly competition and it's home to the first

(46:07):
and original rottle Stick Round Up eightyfifty year. Good for them, congratulations,
Yeah, I'm out. Best andworst of the weekend. What's the
best thing that happened this weekend?And the worst thing? Best? My
wife and I went into the hillsof Arkansas with no reception, stayed on
a four acre property with our dogs. It was very peaceful. Worst.
I have been neglecting my lawn andit's now very overgrown. So that should

(46:29):
be fun. Just call it art, call it art, and it's okay.
They do that at the gathering place. I have grass all overgrown and
le that's Oklahoma wild grass. That'sart. I do it in my yard.
It's a city ordinance, right ifyou ah, God, I'm such
a dork. If you go downthe rabbit hole of lawn mowing and lawn

(46:50):
maintenance and why we do it.It is so fascinating to uncover the thing
of why we do it. Whybesides there's no purpose. Yeah, it's
vanity. You are right. Ithought it was, you know, keep
the bugs and rodents out of yourhouse. Nope, you know, but
uh okay, Nope, he justwanted to look purty. Huh. You
come in, you do these theseneighborhoods. You put in some type of

(47:13):
grass or ornamental grass that has nothingto do with the the ecosystem, and
then bugs don't even know what todo in it, and it brings in
all these other bugs that annate,and it's just it's a crazy rabbit hole.
Best part of my weekend was eatingand Alini's for the first time.
Worst part was eating at Andelini's.Now no other pizza I have will compare.

(47:35):
I'm sure Mike would be very appreciativeof that. Best long ride with
a hubby on bike. Worst printedthe wrong date on Sun's graduation announcements and
have to repurchase ouch. I mean, in the grand scheme of things,
he could not be graduating, Sothat feels like that is true. Truth.

(47:55):
Best with my birthday and fiance surprisedme with a frosting bikini. Worst
had to help her parents change thepool liner before my pump's all gumped up
because is this frosting? Is thatvanilla? Yeah, frosting bikini? Huh?

(48:21):
And did she do it herself ordid someone help her. I imagine
that's probably something you could do onyour own. I don't know, I
don't know. Only girls can getaway with that, right, A guy
can't get away with a frosting hair. No woman sees a man in a

(48:45):
frosty bikini goes, oh, yeah, I gotta have some of that.
I want to spend the next fivehours trying to get that out of his
hair and off the sheets. Andright, incorporating food into sex only sounds
like a good idea. Right,what do you got? Oh, I'm

(49:07):
sorry. You went to your phoneso I thought you had something. Nothing.
No, nobody's dead. Okay,all right, we're gonna take a
break. Coming up, we've gottickets to see Jeff Dunham. If you're
listening to The Big Man Morning Show, this is Tulsa's Morning show. Good

(49:32):
morning, It's the Big Mad MorningShow. Nine one, eight four six
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two nine four five. See whatGimpi has in his four x four well
coman. It says, yeah,that Postal Service wants to raise the price

(49:52):
of stamps again. The US PostalService is asking for approval to easy price
of stamps for a second time insix months. If the change gets the
green lights, first class stamps willjump from sixty eight cents to seventy three
cents in July. People are reallypissed about this, right, it only

(50:16):
cost me twenty five cents. Solet me get this straight. I'll go
to seventy three cents. I cangive you a piece of mount and in
three days it'll be in California.Yeah, that's insane for seventy three cents.
Yes. Yeah. Meanwhile, it'sgoing to charge me four dollars to
get something from Amazon whatever. Uhhey, IRS releases update for tax filing

(50:37):
program. Today is tax Day andif you haven't already filed, then IRIS
is making it easier for some.The agency released and update for direct File,
it's free tax filing program. Theupdate allows taxpayers to import the previous
year's information from the IRS in orderto easily validate the current year's return.

(51:00):
The Direct File pilot program is onlyavailable to taxpayers in twelve states as a
tests, the Arizona abortion ban isdisastrous for women. That's according to Senator
Mark Kelly. He says that theArizona Supreme Court decision to uphold a strict
abortion ban will be disastrous for womenin his state. He says that he

(51:22):
blames former President Trump for the endof Roe v. Wade, and he
noted that the abortion issue will beon the ballot in November and expects a
large voter turnout. The eighteen sixtyfour law bans all abortions except for when
the mother's life is at risk andthen lastly here Tulsa leaders want some more

(51:44):
attractions on Route sixty six before thecentennial. The first plan would be to
build a roadside attraction that coincides withRoot sixty six's heritage and aesthetics on cry
Baby Hill. The second plan includesa new development at Riverside and Southwest Boulevard
to complement the Cribaby Hill attraction,and a hotel of restaurants could be a

(52:06):
possibility. The third plan would bean interactive experience, such as an outdoor
digital museum. The goal is toenrich the understanding of Route sixty six.

(52:30):
A high profile wide receiver won't betraded. That's according to Bengals pass catcher
T Higgins, who told the mediaat a Youth of Football camp on Sunday
that he expects to stay with hiscurrent team for the twenty twenty four season.
He was given the franchise tag afterracking up six hundred and forty six
yards and five touchdowns. Last season, Higgins missed five games due to injury.

(52:52):
The twenty five year old still hasto sign the franchise tag, which
would pay him nearly twenty two milliondollars this season. The sides have until
July fifteenth to negotiate a long termdeal. The NBA regular season is wrapped
up. The Boston Celtics convincingly wonthe Eastern Conference with a sixty four and
eighteen. They clinched the first overallseed throughout the postseason. In the West,

(53:16):
the Oklahoma City Thunder clinched the topseed over Nicola Jokic and the reigning
champion Denver Nuggets. The Nuggets willbe aiming to defend their title against the
stacked playoff field. So crazy thinghappened in the LA game. Fans were
cheering when Boban the guy, thereally weird looking guy, he missed his

(53:37):
first three throw and they were chillingbecause if he missed two in a row,
they get free chicken. Oh yeah, And then LA won the game
for Chicken. The NBA play intournament field this set. The seventh seeded
New Orleans Pelicans will host the eighthseeded Los Angeles Lakers on Tuesday night.
When do your joke? Not Now, That's not how you set up a

(54:00):
joke. Elsewhere in the last theSacramento Kings are going to host the Golden
State Warriors in a Bay Area showdown. In the East, the Philadelphia seventy
six Ers will host the Miami Heaton Wednesday. The Bulls will look to
knock off the Atlanta Hawks in theWindy City, and the eighth SIG games
will be played Friday, and thefuture of the WNBA will find their new
homes when the twenty twenty four draftgets underway tonight. Iowastar Caitlin Clark is

(54:24):
expected to be the first overall selection. The Indiana Fever were awarded the top
pick after winning the Draft Lattery backin December. This will be the second
straight year that Indiana makes the firstpick. The Fever selected Aliah Boston in
the twenty twenty three draft. Stanford'sCameron Brink, South Carolina's Camilla Cardoso and

(54:45):
LSU's Angel Reese are also expected tobe among the first few players taken in
the draft, and after the deathof OJ Simpson last week, there have
been some that have been wondering whatwill happen to his brain, and after
a post NFL career that saw thejuice commit crimes and exhibit erratic behavior,
there was concern by some over whateffects of CTE he might have been suffering

(55:08):
from. Malcolm Laverne, Simpson's lawyerand executor, says that there will be
no donating of Simpson's brain post mortemand no research will be done. Laverne
says he'll consult with the children onit, but as of now, Simpson's
wishes of being cremated and leaving therest up to the kids will be honored.
And speaking of his kids and hisfriends, anyone who wanted to visit

(55:30):
Simpson in the hospital during his finaldays were reportedly required to sign a non
disclosure agreement. In addition, noone was permitted to have phones in the
room while with Simpson during that visit. The other thing is that the apparently
his estate is basically saying we haveno plans to play to pay those people,
that they owe money to the goldMen's and all that. Then they

(55:52):
said, Listen, he's got backtaxes and other things. It's not even
on our radar. Goodness, hewas making four hundred thousand dollars a year
just in residuals from movies and thingslike that. He wasn't paying taxes right
now, that's not an uncommon thing, right, but he was in that
serious of dec Maybe he was gettingadvice like how do I not how what

(56:13):
could I do to not pay them? And they're like, well, you
can just not pay your taxes andthen whatever happens happens. Yeah, what
a that's dirty. That's your ballsof the wall. In comparison to murder,
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ninety seventy five kmode time for ourlisteners are awesome. We chat with a
listener, they tell us about theirlife, and on the phone with us
right now is Brian. Hey,Brian, how are you? I'm doing

(58:13):
awesome? Good man. Brian isa landscaper and this is the type of
how long have you been a landscaper? Let me ask that first six years
now? Yeah, being working outin the heat doing other people's lawn is
not awesome. I am not enviousof people that do that or those that

(58:36):
are like, hey, I wantyou to plant my petunias. Not an
easy life, is it, Brian. There's the good days and there's the
days that it's hot and I don'twant to do anything. Yeah. Yeah,
what's a good day in your landscaping? Everything runs all right? The
lawnmower fires up first time every time. What easy, simple project, just

(58:57):
straight mowing. It's like a nicea degree day. And yeah, as
a landscaper, have you ever hadlike some stay at home wife come outside
in her bathroom and be like,here's some fresh lemonade. Not that glamorous,
but yes I have tell me please, sorry's grandma that offers me something

(59:22):
to drink? Oh? Okay?Yeah, but would you of course I
would? Yeah? What's the agecap for you? I don't think about
age. It's more about personality andlooks. So what you're saying is age
ain't nothing but a number. That'sright. Who's the what's the oldest person

(59:44):
you've ever been with? Late fifties, late fifties, okay? And how
old were you when that happened?Late twenties okay, a little thirty year
gip. How old did she lookif she was late fifties, she looked

(01:00:07):
fifties. Yeah, okay, nowyou knew a you know again? Yeah?
Did she bake you a pie afterwards? No? She did not.
Did she offer you a nickel ora butterscotch from her purse? Jeffer and
me a tetrom it? Thanks forthe good band. Here's some morthers and

(01:00:30):
a nickel. Yeah, you getinto my purse and get one of those
werthers and I'll see you later.We're talking to Brian. Our listeners are
awesome. It says here you've beenengaged four times but never married. What
happened those four times? Oh?Two of them were because well I got
her pregnant and it's like, well, maybe I should make this work out,

(01:00:52):
but then I realized, no,this is horrible and toxic and we
need a break up. The otherone ended up just being a narcissist and
a liar, and like then Ileft her and the other one drained my
bank account and I said bye.Wow. So the first two totally understandable.
You felt like you were doing theright thing. I think a lot
of people feel that way. Somepeople don't come to the conclusion you did.

(01:01:15):
And then the other one was anarcissist. How was she a narcissist?
Oh? She would just kind ofmake excuses, being denial about all
the stuff she did and just kindof neglect me and just like, oh,
whatever you can do, I'll dowhatever, and not care about your
feelings. Okay. And then theother one drained your bank account? How

(01:01:37):
did she? Uh? Like,what happened? She was a gambler or
shopping attict? What gambling and shoppingaddiction? Yeah? Mostly gambling. How
did you find out? I gota bank statement that said I was about

(01:01:58):
six grand short in my account?Oh oh yeah, that's a good junk
of change. So you start investigatingand followed the trend, right? Yes?
Yeah? That had to have beenpainful, man, it hurts right,
okay? Uh? And it sayshere that you currently have three girlfriends.
That feels very uh selfish of you. Why do you have three girlfriends?

(01:02:22):
Well, I'm only dating two ofthem. One, I'm just what's
the difference explain the difference to mebetween those two scenarios. Well, two
of them I'm physically seen and spendingtime with, and the one we're just
kind of talking. So it's inthe beginning stages of this relationship. The

(01:02:45):
third one is yes. Uh.And do the two girls know about each
other? They do? Do theyknow you're talking to a third Well,
I'm not that serious with the thirdone, but I've talked to them about
it. And why do you needa third Well, I mean I was
feeling connected with her and trying toget to know her better, and I

(01:03:07):
believe this has express my feelings andnot push him down when I feel that
way. Okay, how many timeshave you had multiple girlfriends? This is
really the first. The rest ofmy relationships have been monogamous and I've just
been loyal to them. But I'vestarted talking to one and she was polyamorous,

(01:03:34):
and I was like, okay.So I kind of got to know
more people in the community, andI'm like, okay, I can I
feel comfortable in this lifestyle like this? And so you were like, oh,
I want to be polyamorous? Yes? Is there a manual? And
I'm not trying to be disrespectful byasking that. I'm just trying to understand.

(01:03:55):
When one goes, oh, likethat looks fun, how do you
find out more about it? Orthe rules that go along with it.
I mean, everybody has their ownniche rules for a relationship in it.
Some people have like I don't wantto know anything that you're doing. I
know you're going on a date withsomeone, but I could don't ask,

(01:04:16):
don't tell policy, And the otherone's like, tell me everything. I
want to be involved in this,and we do this as a group or
a couple. So are you withyour two bitches? Are they want to
know about the other ones? Theywant to know about like all the intimate
details, or is like one tellme all about it and the other ones
like I don't, I don't care, do what you do? They want

(01:04:39):
to know about each other. Idon't near of them really want to know
that the gushy stuff. But Itell them what happens when we I go
on my dates and stuff. Okay, how long have you been involved with
the both of them? Not thatlong for either. I met this one
after my last relationship, which wasabout three months ago into and I've been

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talking to them both for about alittle over a month out, so it's
really not that long. What's theupside of a polyamorous relationship? The upside
is the two I'm dating. Theyare very open, very good at communication,
and that's been lacking in a lotof my old relationships, and I'm

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really enjoying that. What's the downsideof polyamorous relationship? Well, one of
them that I'm being the married lady. I mean, she has very little
free time and I do have toshare her a lot more and I don't
get as much quality time as Iwould like. So we kind of gleamed
over that. But one of thetwo women you're serious with, if you

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will, quote unquote, is married, Yes? And is he Is he
aware? Yes? She tells youhe's aware. You've had a conversation with
him, I admit him, butwe never really talk too much. Okay,
so he knows that you're stuffing hisold lady. Yes, I mean

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he has other partners as well.Okay, so they're also Polly Yeah,
they're a Pulley couple. Okay.How awkward was that first meeting with her
old man? Very like? Howclose do I get? I'm like,
I don't want to be like tooclose and rubbing up on her right next

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to him because they have a thing. Like he knows that she goes out,
but he doesn't really want to seeit her be around it. So
I'm like, I was kind ofsitting next to and we talking. I
don't get all handsy with her infront of him and stuff. I respect
his the fact that's his wife andI I mean, he doesn't want to
see her, no too much detail, So I respect him. Well,

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you respect him in front of him. Yeah, you had mentioned that you
were engaged to two women before andbecause you had children with them. Yes,
So do you see your children now? Oh? Yeah, I have
both my kids full time. Okay, So do they know your current girlfriends?

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They've met one of them. Dothey understand the polyamorous lifestyle? Are
they old enough to understand it?They're thirteen and eight kind of. I
don't think they really understand polyamory,but I mean they're still young. I
mean to get concused by everything.Last polyamorous question for me unless the other

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two have one, and that isdo you know very many elderly or senior
couples who are polly? I've meta few, we have meetups to it
in the community and we kind ofget together and socialize. And I've talked
to a few of them because myquestion is always when you see this type

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of lifestyle, is what's the endgame. What's the when you're retired or
whatever? Is the plan to havemultiple sexual partners living together under one roof.
There's a joke about polyamory is thebest way to go because with the
way finances are in the economy,I'm like, you have to have multiple
people in the house living together topay a bill. But that's not the

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end goal. No, you eventuallywant to have one partner. No,
it's you have your primary but youalso have your partner on the side as
well. Yeah, I think sometimeslike Polly and the only difference to me
with poly monogamy is you just wantto have girlfriends or you just want to

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have boyfriends. That's it. Well, and will polyamory difference between that and
this is a swinger life stars.Swingers just about sex and polyamory is about
building a relationship with the other personas well. Okay, but don't you
build a relationship with someone when you'rein a monogamous relationship as well? It's
just you have a bond with morethan one person. You can have your

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cake and eat it too, That'swhat it seems like. That's what it
sounds like. You're having your cakeand eating it too. But that statement
of having your cake and eating ittoo is kind of like downplane, right
of course, right, It's kindof like saying to have your to have
your cake and eat it too isa bad thing, right right. Well,
you also have the one you havetwo. I have two women that

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they're having a bad day. Ihave to deal with everything before you get
into an argument. One. Youhave two sets of drama you have to
deal with as well. So,I mean, there's the benefits of having
two girlfriends. There's also the withdrawaloff having two as well, because you
have twice as much going on inyour life. So you got these two
bitches menstruating at the same time.Is that what the third one's for?
You're like, hopefully they're not onthe same cycle, And it's like I

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can just go hang out with herwhile you tube bleed all over the place
and be crazy. Yeah, man, oh no, that's not But I
gotta ask. Uh. It sayshere you were in a car accident.
Tell me about that. Oh yeah. I was driving home from work one

(01:10:11):
day. I went the light wasgreen Ford turn. I went to take
a left. The truck ran thered light and t bone me, ripped
the whole front axle off the car. And as I'm stumbling out and like,
I winded up in the parking lotnext to the road where I was
and I'm like, freaking that upmy car. I'm like, I'll just

(01:10:31):
move it. I'm get it outof the road, and the guy's like
your tires of yeah, trying notto swear, buddy, all right,
my bad. I'm like, ohdarn, my car's ruined. And I
see you like fluids leaking everywhere.And as I'm freaking out, the guy
comes up to me. I'm like, we have blood all of your back.

(01:10:54):
And I put my hand to myshoulder, my neck and my head
and there's just caked and blood.So he goes inside the store grabs me
some napkins, and I'm holding therewith a handful of natins over my head,
trying to gather the stuff out ofmy car. I realized the guy
that hit me had no insurance andeverything. I'm like, whoa, I

(01:11:15):
guess I'm out. Then the amuletscame. It ticked a bunch of glass
out of my hair. So apparentlymy rear view mirror was connected to a
bunch of wires on my windshield andeverything, and it broke off, swung
around and just spiked me in theback of the head. D And yeah,
yeah, so I didn't have insurance. I didn't take the ambulance to

(01:11:40):
the hospital or anything. Status putsome gauze and wrapped in my head.
So I just had this big oldlot of gauze strapped to my head and
I just walked home. He justwalk home? Yeah? How far was
that? Oh? I was veryclose to my house. It was only
a pot a half mile. Andthen did you go to the doctor or

(01:12:01):
the hospital or anything? No?Covering out the time was freaking out.
It's like, wouldn't let me goto sleep, thinking I have a concussion
or something? That feels appropriate?Yeah, definitely. Okay, all right,
So tell me about the time younearly cut off your foot. Okay,

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that's when I first started this job. I went, I was had
a motorized edger and I was cleaningsome sidewalks off and there was a candle
in front of it. I wentto go kick the candle out and the
edger I guess caught the grip onthe sidewalk or some grass, and I

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pulled itself forward and then I duginto my foot. I had this big,
old, long scar about halfway acrossmy foot, starting at the base
of my big toe, all theway across. I'm like, oh,
that hurt. Didn't think enough.I took my sock off, and I
realized my took my shoe off androise. My sock was just already red.
So because I was still adrenaline orwhatever, it didn't really hurt you

(01:13:08):
at the time. So I hobbledover, flagged down one of my co
workers. I'm like, hey,I hurt my foot, and he looked
down and started freaking out, wentand grabbed the truck and pulled me over
and throwed me to the hospital.Oh so that when you did go okay,
yeah, yeah, yeah, itwas a little more stask. That
was all right, And so whatdo you have to get stitches? What
happened? Yeah? I got aboutfifteen stitches. I couldn't walk for about

(01:13:31):
a couple of weeks, and afterthat I was hobbling for another month or
two. M I bet you don'tkick any more candles. Huh yeah,
right, I'm just running over trashnow, or I'd turn it off,
stop and move airy. There wego. Yeah, page forty three of
the manually. Yeah, it seemslike the smart choice. Uh. Well,

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not only have you destroyed your foot, but it says you chase down
a mugger one time. How areyou what? What do you tell me
about this? I didn't know alot of muggings happen. Well, this
was about twenty years fifteen years agoor so. It was Halloween. I
was with a big group of peopleand one of the girls was like struggling

(01:14:12):
behind I don't know, I don'tremember what she was doing. And this
guy who came up beside her grabbedher purse, grabbed her bag, and
this clubb during the back of thehead. I heard her scream. I
took her. I saw him andsorted running towards him. He took off.
He pretty much ran for about threeblocks. Then he jumped into a

(01:14:34):
car that was waiting for him,and they both took off, and you
chased the car. Well, Ichased him until he got into the car
and they drove off, and thenI'm what the police got involved. Yeah,
I called the cops and did theyfind him? Nope? Because I

(01:14:56):
have a bad memory, so Ididn't remember the license place like two of
its numbers. I was not focusing, but I gave the strict description of
the vehicle and then we reported it. How far did you chase the guy?
I want to say about three blocks? Okay, more than what I
would have done. Was she was? She like so impressed with your heroic

(01:15:18):
behavior. Oh no, I mean, I mean I knew her. We've
been friends for a long time,and she was happy that I did something,
but she is more concerned they gother stuff, so and her head
was kind of hurting and a littledistracted. Will you would they hit her
with? Don know? No,I don't crazy. Man. Well,

(01:15:40):
listen, good luck with the ladiesliterally because normally you say that in a
more generic term, but I'm literallylike specifically the three and uh, I
hope everything works out, man,and uh be careful with candles and edgers
and mowing and all that other stuff. Man. I will thank you,
all right, buddy, good talk. That's Brian. Our listeners are awesome.

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We're gonna take a break and we'llbe back on Tulsa's morning show continues
next JAX The Big Mad Morning Showon Tulsa's rock station ninety seven five KMOD.

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Good morning, It's the Big MadMorning Show six O K M O
D. I don't. I don'tthink either one of you really watched Saturday
Night Live, but there was one. Brian Gosling was on it, and
there was one skit that was Ithought super funny. Kylen Clark also made

(01:16:48):
an appearance, and I thought shedid pretty good. But there was one
really funny skit where they're interviewing acharacter that Keenan is playing and he and
in his peripheral of the interviewer isRyan Gosling dressed as butt Head. No,

(01:17:10):
it's Beavis and Keenan's characters like Ican't no, and then Ryan Gosling's
like, I don't know, Idon't know what, but they all just
can't keep it together and it's sofunny. And then he's like, can
you move him? And they're like, yeah, we'll move him, so
they move him and then they puta guy who looks like butt heead and

(01:17:35):
he's like, are you serious?You know guy over there with the gray
shirt with the exposed gums, sheloses it. Oh, I cracked up
so hard that I didn't watch it, but I watched him on the on
the tiktoks. You know. That'sI gotta give it to that platform,
man, I can always catch youknow, the updates, uh and what

(01:17:57):
nots from the previous Saturday. Ihad me cracking up because they could not
They tried to pull it and itback in. It just couldn't be done.
No, it was a mess.Yeah yeah. Then they go to
interview somebody in the crowd who hasa question. They go to the public's
question and they had seen them together, and he's like, you seen them

(01:18:18):
together and whatever? They laugh Theycan't keep together. The persons like just
wants to ask their question and theycan't really ask it because they're laughing so
hard. And so he goes,yeah, yeah, yeah, how do
you too? Know you? Whatare you doing here? So funny.
We got a message from x DanWitch wants to know if corn Hoolio needs

(01:18:43):
more teeth peep for his bunghole.It's funny, so funny, right,
hilarious. He usually has a hardtime keeping it together when he's a guest
on the show Gosling. Yeah,he did really good. Though I'd never
seen the girl I forget her name. I'd never seen her lose it and
not quite like that, Oh mygosh, not quite like there was.
She just could have she looked overand saw butt heead, it's just just

(01:19:06):
lost it. Yeah, I wouldhave done the same thing. How they
do that and they keep it together? Want professionalism? I get that,
but it's like it blows me away, like how they can do that and
still keep it together. So myunderstanding is so they do read like table
reads, right, and then they'lldo run throughs okay, And then they

(01:19:27):
do h I came for it's someFriday night or Saturday early evening, they'll
do costume run throughs okay, Sotim, and maybe maybe they don't do
that. Maybe they don't always doa costume run run through because when she
turns and sees them standing like inthere, there's she must not have never
seen them before, right, becauseshe just instantly breaks character. YESO,

(01:19:51):
yeah, so brilliant to watch unfold. And I even read sometimes that actors
like we'll just who's rank Gossling inthis example, that he won't even be
a part of the run through.He'll just show up and read like he
doesn't isn't part of script reads,he isn't part of dry runs, table
reads, none of that stuff.And then he just shows up and goes.

(01:20:15):
And some people show up there therefor writers meetings. They're there for
the whole process, but it's kindof different for each individual person. And
then if there don't show up foranything, they send them and go,
here's what we want to do,and they're representative or the celebrity will go
I don't want to do this bitor I don't want to be made fun
of for this or whatever, rightright, And then some show up and
go, man, do whatever youwant, I don't care, which seemed

(01:20:39):
to be the best ones. Ye. Yeah, it seems to work out
for him. Yeah, there wasthat one bit that he did. I
guess. They were doctors, adoctor and a nurse and they're trying to
sell cookie crumble or whatever. Idon't know if you remember that. Yeah,
I thought, well, this isa little awkward and weird, but
they're spoon feeding each other these cookiecrumbles, because when you don't want a
whole cookie and you just want partof theoie, you just want to crumble,

(01:21:01):
yes, And they just trying tokeep it together. On that one,
I was like, that's funny,that's funny. I haven't watched a
whole episode of SNL and ever No, but I read this really great interview
that apparently Lauren Michaels said this,and to me, it's never made more
sense until he said it. Andthat is your fav everybody's favorite SNL is

(01:21:25):
when you were in high school,true statement. And so it's not for
them, then that means it's notfor you, right, I didn't realize
that that was their target demo,right, you know kids what fifteen to
twenty? I guess fifteen to nineteen, because you're right, because when I
look back at you know, myfavorite SNL skits, it was Sadler and

(01:21:47):
David Spade, Chris Farley, stufflike that, you know, Will Ferrell
a little bit. That was inthe early two thousands. I had already
graduated that point in time and startedto fall off of that. Well,
I'm not to sit up and watchS and L. I'd rather go party
or catch it when you could.Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
And now, I mean the onlytime I ever watched him is when when
it's on the TikTok right when it'sfunny enough to surface exactly exactly, and

(01:22:11):
a lot of the Weekend Update stuffwith Colin Jost and Michael Shape funny,
funny stuff, so I get alot of that. Okay, Yeah,
the Klin Clark thing was really funnywhere they told Michael Shay that he had
made fun of women's sports and shewas there to call him out on it.
Oh right, and so then shewrote a bunch of headlines he had

(01:22:33):
to read. It was pretty fun. It was kind of it's their typical
roast each other type of thing theydo during the news, and that seems
to work out for them. Yeah, it has for the last couple of
years or whatever. Yeah, therewas one on not it was on TikTok
or whatever. It was Norm McDonald'sshortly after OJ died, and it was
just ten minutes of Norm McDonald justripping on OJ. Every headline he could

(01:22:57):
suddenly tied it back to OJ themurderer and blah blah blah. That was
pretty funny. Nor McDonald's kind ofhard to I don't know, see such
dry humor anyway, you know,he was seth Meyer does this really thing
on his TV show, his latenight show, and he does day drinking
with celebrities. Oh my god,it's so funny. It's so good.
I don't know if they're really gettingdrunk, but he's done it with Rihanna

(01:23:20):
and some others. But I watchedthe one that I thought was maybe the
most funny is who's the girl fromTwilight? And that did the scheme picture
the movie Gimpy where she goes schemewith those two dudes. Oh yeah,
I forget the love interest in Twilight. Kristin something Kristin Stewart, Yeah,

(01:23:45):
yeah, and she does it withher and it was super funny. And
at one point he's like, Iwrote these lines and I want you to
deliver him like they're serious, andshe has to like build up the skin
and they're apparently drunk. It's it'sreally creative. I want to check it
out then, and to get somebodyto, you know, a celebrity,
to just submit that way and bethat vulnerable. It's pretty awesome. Again,

(01:24:08):
they could not be drinking at all. But and the one that I
watched with Kristen Seth struggles a littlebit to put some sentences together. You
can tell he's struggling here right.They are actors though, so you don't
really ever know one hundred percent.All right, we got to take a
break. We'll be back. Fourof them. Good morning. It's the

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Let's see what we got for Ballsto the Wall Sports. Mookie Betts

(01:25:03):
and the Los Angeles Dodgers received somepretty special footwear Saturday, courtesy of Kobe
Bryant's widow. On the eighth anniversaryof Bryant's last NBA game, Vanessa Bryant
gave members of the Dodgers exclusive sneakersin a team color scheme from the Late
Basketball Stars signature Nike line. Theclub posted a thank you message to Vanessa

(01:25:25):
Bryant with photos of the sneakers onX and shared video on Instagram of players
opening their new Nike Kobe six LADodgers pe shoes. Betts said he was
going to wear them every day,and manager Dave Roberts said these are ridiculous.
I'm going to rock these with mambapride. The Dodgers went on to
beat the San Diego Padres five totwo. On Saturday Night, Bryant scored

(01:25:46):
sixty points for the Los Angeles Lakersagainst the Utah Jazz at home in the
last game of his career on Aprilthirteenth, twenty sixteen, often referred to
as Mamba Day in a nod tohis Black Mamba nickname, and he died
in a helicopter crash January twenty sixth, twenty twenty, and he was forty
one years old. That only lastedone game, though, because they dropped

(01:26:06):
the series. A Pittsburgh Steelers legendis heading to the desert. Arizona State
announced on Sunday, Hines Ward hasbeen hired as the school's next wide receivers
coach. He replaces Rashad Samples,who left this offseason for a job at
Oregon. Ward formally coached pass catchersat Florida Atlantic and also was an offensive

(01:26:29):
assistant with the New York Jets.The two time Super Bowl winner spent his
entire career with Pittsburgh and racked upmore than twelve thousand receiving yards to go
with eighty five touchdowns in two hundredand seventeen games. Ohio State football is
staying tight lipped on their next quarterback. Head coach Ryan Day told the media
Saturday following a spring game that theteam isn't ready to name a starting quarterback.

(01:26:54):
Junior Devin Brown, Kansas State transferWill Howard, and five star freshmen
Julian Saye are all competing for thejob. The Buckeyes are guaranteed to have
a new quarterback this year after lastseason starter Kyle McCord transferred to Syracuse over
the winter. OSU also has anew offensive coordinator heading into the season following
the hiring of Chip Kelly Scotty.Scheffler has earned another green jacket after finishing

(01:27:19):
a top the leaderboard at the twentytwenty four Masters Tournaments in Augusta. Scheffler
shot a four under sixty eight inthe final round to finish the tournament with
a four stroke victory at eleven underpar. This is the second major championship
for Scheffler, after he won theMasters in twenty twenty two. Ludwig Abberg

(01:27:40):
finished in second at seven under par. Tommy Fleetwood Maxhoma Colin MORICOAH, finished
tied for third at four under.Tiger Woods finished sixtieth at sixteen over par
for the worst seventy two whole performanceof his career. Yeah, but keep
in mind people said he wasn't evergonna play again. He made the cut,

(01:28:01):
which was like he made a recordfor the most cuts ever. So,
uh, this he played with MattShipley. Matt Shipley and I think
it was who it was. Andafterwards, Uh, he did a press
conference and he was Neil Shipley andhe was asked a question by a reporter.
It's a really interesting it was avery awkward moment. So listen to
this exchange that happens with the reporterNeil Shipley, who was paired with Tiger

(01:28:24):
Woods at the Masters. Yeah,I saw on one fair away, on
a fair away he wrote some andhanded you a note. What what was
that about? He's no, hedidn't. I thought he wrote something and
handed you handed you a piece ofpaper. No, no, that that
didn't happen. Okay, okay,thank you for your time. It was

(01:28:46):
really weird because even Neil, helooks to the Master's official like almost like,
how do I answer this? It'sreally weird. So did this reporter
just ask a question that they hadno sub substance with, which isn't out
of the room of possibility. It'sliterally. A reporter's job is to investigate.

(01:29:08):
Yeah, but it's a really weirdexchange that's happening. Yeah, Or
I mean he could have made anythingup. Some people online were saying that
he passed his tiger pasted his phonenumber, which is what he does sometimes
with some past your phone number.So you got a piece of paper rather

(01:29:29):
than like, just tell me yournumber and I'll put it in my phone
or air drop it. And whywould you do it right there at the
green Why wouldn't you do it inthe clubhouse or in the car score room?
Right? Really bizarre. Maybe itwas cocaine inside that paper maybe right?
Or don't eat babies. I don'tknow. And that's your bosses,
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It's good morning, Jeff, Thankgood morning. I wanted to bring up
the situation that happened in the Panhandlebecause it's starting to surface of these two
women who went missing. She wasgoing to pick up her children. There's
a familylaw issue involved, and apparentlythere was a dispute between custody and somebody

(01:31:35):
who was associated with the family insome regard decided they were going to intervene.
How do you avoid stuff like thisif you can't. I mean,
that's the thing is people are people, and people are going to make their
own decisions. I mean, Imean, I hate to say it,
but if you have any inkling ofthat, I guess you know, go
armed. You know, we're allowedto do that in Oklahoma, whether you're

(01:31:56):
cangaring, concealed permit holder otherwise,so you know, but you can't control
people. I mean, that's that'sthe one thing that I want people to
even understand about judges, right,I mean, judges are over people and
they issue orders, right, Butat the end of the day, people
are people. We had a kateor I shouldn't say we not my firm,
But there was a case about alittle less than ten years ago where

(01:32:18):
the judge removed a protective order andthat night it was all over the news.
That night, the dad went andbarricaded himself in with the kid and
then killed himself and his son.And even if that protective order had been
in place, it's only still apiece of paper, right, So you
can't fix crazy. You can't fixstrange. You can only hope and pray.

(01:32:41):
But there's I mean, there's literallynothing you can do to control if
someone's going to do something crazy.The best you can do is you defend
yourself. I said, I guess, But at the end of the day,
there's not a whole lot you cando. I mean, officially spill.
Sorry for the pastor's wife. Shewas a supervisor in this case.
I don't know if you're read aboutthat, but no, she was,
so she was alone as a supervisor. There were three or four people listed

(01:33:02):
as authorized supervisors. She was oneof the supervisors along to that had to
ride with her to go get thekids and then ride back with her and
then watch the visit. She wasthere as a supervisor and she's dead and
that sucks. I mean, Ijust feel really bad for her family.
There's a some people texting and saidthat there was report of abuse in the

(01:33:23):
mom's home and that's what caused thisother family members to get involved. When
you know that, when you hearthat, as a family member, what
action do you need to be takingother than into your own hands. Well,
go get protective orders. You canfile emergency, custody orders, guardianships.
I mean, there's all sorts ofthings to protect those kids. And
remember the judge did do something totry to protect those children by having a

(01:33:44):
supervisor so she wouldn't be alone withthe kid. But that doesn't mean you
take it in your own hands andyou go and start killing people. Okay,
that's just off the wall crazy,and there's a special circle of hell
for people like that, in myopinion. So you know, gosh,
don't be stupid, don't well,you know, you got to trust the
court system. It does work.It is broken, but it does work.
I understand people get frustrated with thesystem. Trust me, we get

(01:34:08):
frustrated with it too. But atthe end of the day, it does
work. It just works. Itmay not work in a time or fashion
that you want it to, butit does. It does overall work.
Jeff Finsley's joined us from Hensley Associatesand if you have a question about divorce
or custody, guardianship, adoption,any of those things, Jeff can answer
them right now. A couple ofways to get your question to us nine

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whatever. That question is to eighttwo nine four five. You can even
email the question show at kmod dotcom. This says I was clean of
any STDs before I got married,Then shortly after I got married, I
found out I got an STD.Is that enough information to go in for
adultrey in a divorce proceeding? Okay, so understand, and it's good to

(01:34:50):
bring this up every now and then. All right, there are eleven different
claims you can make for divorce andOklahoma, from incompatibility to adultree, to
extreme cruelty, to abandonment to allsorts of things. Okay, Remember though,
that when you get outside of theuncontested or the no fault, all

(01:35:10):
right, you now have a burdenof proof, all right. Ninety nine
point nine percent of people file uncontestedWhy because there's no burden of proof and
it's quick and easy in the senseof there's no thing you have to prove
to a chord as to why youshouldn't be together. In my fifteen years
of practice, I have in thousandsof cases i've done, I've only filed
it adultery twice, and I thinkI've told the story. The only reason

(01:35:31):
I did it both times is becausethe other side was a preacher or pastor
or youth minister or something where myclient wanted to embarrass the individual. Okay,
despite me telling them not too becauseI don't think that's something to do,
they wanted to do it regardless.My point of it is is that
it's a rare occurrence. You dobecause again, you now have a burden
of proof. Is it enough?That's the question. Well, you gotta

(01:35:56):
prove where you got that STD from. Man. I mean it's not just
well I was and I had one, didn't have one, and now I
do, Well, what is it? Okay, we won't go down into
the deep dark hole of genital herpessimply because I know that sounds gross.
But my point of it is isthat if you talk to your physician about
it, that stuff's one. Thestatistic is one in six individuals between the

(01:36:16):
ages of nineteen and forty nine havegenital herpes. And the reason I bring
that up is because you can getit and not even know it. Talk
to your doctor about it. I'mnot a physician, but I will tell
you've dealt with this issue a bunchin my own divorces and stuff. So
point being is you got to proveit. Okay, you have a burden
of proof. You're gonna have toprove that individual gave you that that STD
or that STI. This comes upa lot in an adultrey situations, right,

(01:36:40):
but you would have to prove thatyou didn't have it, and that
doesn't just a trip to go down. Yeah, you can't. I mean
unless you've got you know, STDSTI testing, you know, every month
from the day that you're eighteen yearsold moving forward. You can't prove that.
I mean, you really can't.So you're gonna have to have more
than that. I mean, typicallyyou're gonna have to have emails, text
messages, photos, photos being youknow, a private investigator following them around

(01:37:05):
or whatever. I mean, it'sa heavy burden of proof, believe it
or not. It doesn't sound aseasy as as it sounds. And again
there's no reason for it uncontested,no burden of proof whatsoever. But if
you start adding things, now we'vegot burdens of proof that we have to
prove to the court, and thatcan become difficult down the road. Jeff
Finsley's joining us from Hensley and Associates. Sean is on the line and we

(01:37:27):
don't get a lot of questions likeShawn's asking Sean, go ahead, you're
on with Jeff Finsley. Yes,I am Native American registered with the Creeks,
and I have guardianship of my eightyear old great nephew and I'm trying
to adopt him. Okay, aCreek nation won't help me because he didn't
go to foster care. Well,what do you mean when you say help?

(01:37:51):
Oh, go ahead, I'm sorry, finish your sentence some sort.
I went to them asking if theywould help me with adoption and they said
nope, right, okay, legalaid and they said no, right,
right, right, So let mesay something about legal aid. Legal aid
right now is only taking cases wherethere's been domestic violence of some sort.
So they're not doing adoptions, they'renot doing guardianships. They are only dealing

(01:38:14):
with divorce attorney cases that have domesticviolence. So let's just throw that out
there. Number one. Number two, the Creeks don't have a program where
they help in most nations don't don'thave a program where they give you free
legal counsel and things like that foran adoption. Typically, now, having
said that we can help you withthe adoption, that's not a problem.
Where are mom and dad? Arethey involved in any way? Do they

(01:38:39):
have a relationship with the kid?Do they pay child support? Where are
they at on all that stuff?The day they signed him over, I
have not seen or heard from eitherone of them, have not received child
support, nothing. And how longago was that. It's been he's eight
now, and I've had him sincehe was fifteen months. Okay, So

(01:38:59):
we meet the time frame requirements,all right, for not paying child support
and failing to maintain relationships. Sothat's the easy part, you know.
The only thing is when you'd getinto IQUA or the Indian Child Welfare Act,
which kicks in when you've got aNative American child. Okay, you've
got to prove some sort of bestefforts for reunification, that kind of thing.
So I mean, have you reachedout to them at all to try

(01:39:24):
and let them know about what's goingon with their kid? Have you?
I mean, what have you doneto try and foster that relationship. I
tried to keep in contact with hismother. His mother at the time was
seventeen eighteen something like that. She'ssigned you know, custody over to me.
I haven't seen or heard from ortried to keep up with her on

(01:39:45):
Facebook. Last I heard she gotmarried. I have no idea where she's
at. What about Dad? He'smy nephew and I haven't seen or heard
from him either. How did theysign custody over to you? We had
drawn that papers. They had calledand wanted my ask my mother to take
him, and she was seventy somethingat that time and she couldn't do it,

(01:40:10):
and so they asked me. Isaid, yes, I would take
him, but we would have todraw up pusty papers before I took him.
So did you do an actual guardianshipin the Creek Nation or at least
in the state. No. No, we lived through Muskogee County. Well,
okay, so he went through straightcourt, state court. That's fine.
So you know. The ones thing. It's a good question that Corbyn
brings it up, and I'm gladwe get to talk about it for just

(01:40:31):
a second is because it's always importantto have an actual guardianship because technically people
can't just sign rights away to otherpeople and ask me done through guardianships and
adoptions and things like that. SoI mean, you'll give your name my
number to GIMP. I will giveyou a call this week. I'd be
happy to help you at this adoptionover in the Creek Nation and get that
taken care for you. Okay,great, hang on the line. This

(01:40:53):
is along the same lines Jeff JefferMinsley Associates is join us. You got
a question, email us show atKMOT dot com or call it nine one
eight four six KOD or you caneven text your question like this one BMMS
and whatever that is to eight twonine four five. So it's currently going
through a custody battle with my kid'smother. Do you guys practice tribal law
where both Cherokee Nation tribal members andour case is being heard in Cherokee Nation

(01:41:14):
Court? Absolutely. I'm actually registeredin seven different tribal nations in Oklahoma,
so i'd be happy to And they'rethe i won't say the quote the big
ones, but they're the main onesfor the northeastern Oklahoma O, Sage Creek,
Cherokee, Choctaw, Chickasaw, thesort of thing. So please give
us a call, be happy tohelp you with that. I've got an
attorney right now that's working out ofmy past office. It's working on getting

(01:41:38):
registered in all the nations as well, so please give us a call.
We'd love to help you with yourtribal court. It's an important distinction me,
especially with the McGirt ruling and stuff, where the tribes have had a
lot more room to do some thingsthat they want to do, and it's
an important distinction to make sure youget someone that can represent you right.
And remember for McGirt, McGirt onlyapplies to criminal cases. It doesn't apply

(01:42:00):
you know, famuelo cases at thispoint or anything of that nature. It
really is only for criminal cases.But you know, the Creek Nation and
Cherokee Nation, all the nations haveseen a major increase in obviously having to
deal with those cases because before theywere being dealt with the district court,
state court, and now they're allbeing kicked over to either federal court or
they're being kicked over to the tribalnations. So they're seeing huge increases there.

(01:42:23):
We would love to help you withthose. Please give us a call
at our Tulsa or a Pascal officeeither one. Jeff Finzley's joined us from
Hensley and Associates. This text says, I want to adopt my girlfriend's son.
Does his dad he's out of thepicture. Have to give me,
give permission for me to adopt hisboy Well, it ain't gonna happen,
Pal number one, here's why you'renot married. You have to be married.

(01:42:43):
You have to be married, andhere's why. Okay, there is
a rhyme. There is a methodto this madness. Okay, if you
look at it from a procedural standpoint. All right, boyfriend, if you're
going to adopt this kid, youwould have to terminate mom's rights and dad's
rights, because you can't adopt somebodywhen you're not married. All right,

(01:43:03):
So what that means, let meI'm aphrase, and a boyfriend girlfriend situation.
Okay, if you're a single individualand you want to adopt a child,
you can do that. I'm notsaying you can't. Okay, that's
done all the time. Sandra Bullockcomes to mind off the top of my
head. Is somebody famous who's doneit with all of her kids, okay,
before she was married. Point beingis that if as a boyfriend girlfriend's

(01:43:26):
situation or girlfriend girlfriend or a boyfriendboyfriend girl situation, you would have to
terminate the biological parent who you're dating. You have to terminate their rights and
the other parents' rights to be ableto adopt that child as quote yours because
you then become the legal custodian andall that. So you have to be
married at least for one year.That's the state of Oklahoma's requirements, pretty

(01:43:47):
much the same in every state.And again, you know, it doesn't
matter if it's the same sex marriageor otherwise. As long as you're married
for one year, okay, thenwe can do the adoption. But until
then you can't. Now, let'sflip the switch just a tiny bit to
kind of carry on with this example. Let's say they are married, and
they have been married for one year, and they're not boyfriend and girlfriend but

(01:44:08):
a husband and wife. All right, does bio dad have to give up
his rights to the individual who wantsto adopt. The answer is he doesn't
have to. He can. Okay, that can be done, not a
problem. Or we do it throughan adoption without consent hearing all right?
Now, again, if ick whateverthe Indian Child Welfare Act plays in,

(01:44:30):
we now have the nations getting involvedor whatever nation the child is getting involved,
and you have to prove you know, substantial reunification all these other things.
So if you have any questions onthese, please give me call it
my office to be happy to spendmore time with you on it. So
Steck says, Jeff, can yourecommend a visitation app or an app to
communicate with my ex that can beused in court? He doesn't follow the

(01:44:50):
schedule, and then he says Inever told him when he's seen his kid.
Hey. So there's a number ofparenting apps out there's now, there's
Talking Parents, There's there's one Ican't remember right now. Goodness, it's
a free one that's been around.But there's you know, there's at least
seven or eight out of them outthere now on the Apple Store, the
Google Store or Gmail store whatever they'recalling it now for Android. You know,

(01:45:15):
all of them work, All ofthem can be used in court.
It just depends on what features youwant. I mean, Talking Parents is
a great app, but there's inapp purchases and you can make it all
fancy and stuff. It really dependson the people involved. But yeah,
pretty much all of them can beused. That's not a problem. Does
texting count? You can text?I mean, but the problems we run
into a text these days is andwe still use them quite a bit,

(01:45:38):
don't misunderstand me. And it's farbetter than phone calls obviously, because phone
calls are nothing. But he said, she said, whereas with the text
message, we have exactly what wassaid. But with text messages, you
know, now especially with the iOSsystem where you can delete a text after
it's sent or whatever, you know, we run into some issues there.
But yes, you can use textmessages. But you know, we're starting

(01:46:00):
to make a big change over tothese these parenting apps. And again,
those parenting apps have been very popularon the East and West Coast for over
a decade. It's just now thatwe're starting to see a real influx of
them being used here in the Midwestor in Oklahoma, especially Sorell. You
can use them all in court,whether it's travel court, whether it's adoption.
Maybe you're trying to just get tosee your kid for the summer and
make summer plans. The folks atHensley Associates now get it. Don't come

(01:46:25):
to me on June Perston and say, well, you know we're leaving for
Disney World on Friday exactly, don'tdo that because there's literally nothing I'll be
able to do because it's going totake a couple months. Well, the
folks at heinsleyand Host Associates can helpyou with that. N nine eight five
six nine two for Hensley Associates nineone eight three nine eight five six nine
two mentioned KMO. Do you geta free consultation over the phone. And
you guys practice in other areas oflaw or another office you have right,

(01:46:47):
So our office in Pehesca it's theShoemake Law Firm. And yes the name
is different, but it is us. We just left the name because it's
been there since the nineteen seventies andeveryone in northeastern Oklahoma up there knows it.
So with that being said, it'sour off. They do everything in
addition to family law. So ifyou've got a criminal case, if you've
got a car wreck, if you'vebeen hurt by a doctor or a hospital,
or you have a contract issue,or you need a prenuptial agreement written

(01:47:13):
up, or you've got somebody who'sjust passed away and their estate is now
tied up in court through probate,or you need a will or a trust,
anything in addition to family law theyhandle up there. They do a
great job. Give those guys acall up there. You can call us
in Tulsa. We'll give you thenumber and hook up with them up there
as well. But we would loveto help you with everything and anything above
and beyond family law as well.Six nine two for Hensley Associates nine nine

(01:47:36):
eight five six nine Jeff, havea fantastic week, you too, Thank
you break, We'll be back.Tulsa's Morning Show is coming right back,
a big nest morning show, Tulsa'sRock Station ninety KMOD. Good morning,

(01:48:08):
It's the Big Mad Morning shown sixoh KMOD. Can also text bmms and
then what you want to say toeight two nine four five. There's a
difference I think between going to aplace and being who you want to be
and then when you go to aplace and destroy things. I think that's

(01:48:30):
weird. I don't understand that flexat all. And this happened. We're
in Nevada where two men are nowbeing seeked out by federal authorities because they
were pushing boulders off of a NevadaNational Park. Uh and they took video
of it. That's part of theLake met National Recreation Area. Whether apparently

(01:48:55):
these rocks and rock formations are naturallyhave been there for hundreds, if not
thousands, or probably millions of years. It's along the red Stone Dune trail
and these people are up there justknocking rocks off. One of the guys
almost falls as he's trying to doit. There's a little kid with him,

(01:49:16):
and the other adult, you know, jumps to grab that person.
And a National Park Service official said, this is vandalism and it's considered a
personal attack. Oh yeah, andthese people are just destroying it. And
it's one. This park is onepoint five million acres ninety four percent the

(01:49:41):
size of Delaware. I don't knowif that's flex, but it's pretty big,
right, two massive lakes and partof the Colorado River. If the
two men are caught, they canface six months in prison in a five
thousand dollars fine, all right.So I was like at first, I
was like, Okay, how dowe know they're purposely pulling rock off of
this fair question. Yeah, maybethey're just up there climbing, and you

(01:50:02):
know that happens. Sometimes one getsloose, you know, and then there
it goes. But yeah, they'reclearly shoving parts of this rock off of
off of these formations, like yeah, yeah, acting like children because it's

(01:50:23):
fun. I don't think they werelike, hey, this is a historic
geological you know wonder right, probablydidn't know that it was federally protected either.
I think if you're on federal land, like right, you should be
well aware of that. It's adifferent type of penalty. Yeah. Yeah,

(01:50:44):
because that was my thought. Iwas like, Okay, maybe they
didn't know that it was protected.These rock formations are and they're just up
there being stupid. It doesn't makethem right, but you could get to
how they would, you know,so brazenly do that, because there's been
story there's like, to me,this different than a kid who goes to
the museum and accidentally vandalizes some sortof painting, sculpture whatever that we've seen

(01:51:09):
happen. But if you go tothe museum and you intentionally turn your milkshake
over on something, you knew whatyou were doing, right right, splatter
red paint on it and protest orwhatever. Damn mona, Lisa, right,
save the humpback clams or whatever biggestclam for this. I'll go with

(01:51:33):
ignorance. So if it's ignorance,do you feel like they should have less
of a penalty. Lindsay no,no, no rules or rules. I'm
sorry for your ignorance, but thisis the way it is. You should
have maybe researched before coming here.But they're just rocks, right, does

(01:51:54):
matter be? Was it posted anywhere? And I said, hey, rock
formations are federally protective. Any destructionof property will be will be considered,
you know what prosecutor or whatever somethinglike that. Right, If there's a
sign like that and they completely ignoreit, yeah, they got what they

(01:52:16):
got for sure. There was astory of from like like five years ago
where a woman read her insurance policylike disclaimer and in it apparently there was
a thing that said the first personto read this gets ten thousand dollars,
and so she did that and gotten thousand dollars. I don't remember how
long it had been since it hadbeen in place, before anybody even had

(01:52:39):
ever seen it and you know,read that part. So whether it was
post or not, that doesn't meanpeople read it, right of course,
of course, but at least youknow, they couldn't really plead ignorance if
it is posted on signs. Toanswer your question, no, I don't
think they should get lesser of apenalty, you know, being just claiming
ignorance. I think they should getthe same amount of penalty. Remember down

(01:53:00):
in Florida when the little boy gottaken by the alligator? No, and
then which time, right, Well, they were a gator. It was
at the resort and they were throwingfood out in the water or whatever and
that, and they were just sittingby the way. I don't remember the
story. It was, oh,I want to say between five and ten

(01:53:21):
years ago, okay, And hewas a two I think two and a
half three years old toddler, anda gator came up and pulled him into
the water and he he drowned becauseI think they found his body. Okay,
So Disney gator attacked two year aboy found dead. A two year
old boy pulled by an alligator intoa lagoon near Walt Disney World Hotel was

(01:53:44):
found dead. Dive team found him. He had only a few puncture wounds.
According to a source familiar with theinvestigation, the body was found six
and six feet of murky water tento fifteen yards when the boy was attacked,
the fact that the body was foundthe alligators don't swim that far.
They sink in the murky water anddrown their victims. A lot of people
don't know that. The boys parentsfrom Nebraska said they were distraught but relieved

(01:54:10):
that they found the baby. Goddang. Yeah, they were pissed because
there weren't signs posted to what likewat watch out for gators or whatever,
and people were like, well,listen, this is gator country. Should
know right not to stand so closeto the water, especially at night or
whatever. It was. Yeah,it was nine o'clock at night. The

(01:54:32):
boy waded into a foot of waterin a lagoon. Witnesses, including the
boys horrified parents, tried to savehim. His father jumped in and tried
to pry the gator's mouth open.Wow, it was too late. The
child was dragged underwater. Witnesses toldauthorities the lagoon is connected to a serious
canals that feed into a larger body. Okay, that's pretty insane. Child

(01:54:56):
was on the edge of the goonwhen the alligator attacked. He cautioned that
the investigation is still in the earlystages. The child was wading along the
lake's edge. There's no similar incidents. Yeah, there's totally a sign that
says no swimming right there, Like, there's a picture of it in the
story. So that is, butthat counts no swimming you're in the water,

(01:55:19):
yeah right, no swimming covers it. There are no swimming signs posted
the lagoon, but no one,no one but the child was in the
water at the time and some gaiters, and they said the signs are visible
from any vantage point. Yeah,I mean to me, if that doesn't

(01:55:43):
mean anything, you could still sue, right, you can still try to
get money. But these people looklike they I think it should be a
more intense penalty when you do itin front of a your kid and some
crimes, that's true, okay,but when you commetapillony in the presence of
a minor, it should be aharsher penalty. Six months not awesome,

(01:56:06):
five thousand dollars fine, not awesome, tolerable, right, yeah right,
it should be the price of acar, right, thirty thousand dollars fine,
A year in prison. Yeah,that'll teach you not to be messing
with rocks anymore. I don't knowhow it works, but six months could
you wouldn't serve six right, andyou wouldn't make you they'd probably keep you

(01:56:30):
local. Right, that's a countything, right, You're not going to
put it's federal crime, right,federal prison for kicking rocks, for pushing
rocks over. Yeah, thirty grandyfor murder and yes, rock kicker.
That's your reaction. Is the pointfive thousand is like, Okay, it

(01:56:56):
sucks. I'll take a couple extrashifts. Yeah, right, when they're
having to garnish your check for fifteenyears, right, you know, or
five years to pay for it.Yeah, your wife might go, oh
man, listen to my idiot husbanddid five five? Thought we'll pay five
thousand dollars. Fine, But whenit's thirty thousand dollars right, that is

(01:57:23):
that is a you've got to readjustthe budget for a while. We can't
center Sunday college now because of well, no college is like one hundred grand,
so nuts. Well it's the beginningof a fund. Yeah, not
a less, it's a semester.But you can't go five grand. I
doubt you're gonna divorce over five grand. Thirty Like you made a massive financial

(01:57:44):
mistake that I must also carry theburden of right. And you spent a
year in federal prison, right,So I gotta raise these kids. I
gotta raise this kid that you thoughtit'd be fun to go out and make
videos with and kick rocks off ofsome formation, and you gotta pay thirty
thousand dollars see a bread. I'vesaid it before in the show. I
think that punishments for crimes have notprogressed through time. I'm sure in the

(01:58:09):
eighties, five thousand dollars six monthswas like a kick in the nuts.
Yeah, now it's like, Imean, that sucks. I don't want
to do either one of those.But you spend more on a vacation,
right, for sure? They probablyspent more to go to this place for
a trip, yes, if theywere from out of town, Like Gimbi's

(01:58:32):
getting ready to go out of townright for a trip. He's been planning
it, and I know he's doingit on the cheap, but it's still
going to cost him a couple thousandabsolute So penalty should be more than your
trip, even if it is threethousand and one dollars. I get it.

(01:58:54):
Yeah, unbelievable. And they're justlike and they're so proud of each
other too. All Right, wegot to take a break. We'll be
back Telsea's Morning Show. Oh yeah, he's coming right back, a big
mad morning show. Telsa's Rock Stationninety seven five KMOD, Good Morning,

(01:59:23):
It's the Big Mad Morning Show nineone eight four to six o KMOD.
Lindsay, what'd you learn today?I learned a pro and con of a
Polly relationship. One pro is twopeople to rub your back. A con
is two people who are wrong abouthow to load the dishwasher. And I
also learned why Polly is so popularlately, because it takes about three to

(01:59:45):
five credit scores to buy a housethese days. Gimp, what'd you learn
today? Well? Learn that ifyou're told to kick rocks, don't do
it on federal land. And Ialso learned that Lindsay spent the week in
blowing Mud, which is also Kevin'snickname. Uh. I learned that the
note that Tiger Woods handed uh NeilSchipper said don't date women from I hop.

(02:00:10):
And I also learned there's no waythat I could be Polly. It
takes us forever just to try andfigure out where we're going to eat dinner.
I can't imagine imagine adding another personin there. Corbyn saying make sure
that dishwashers loaded right? This isgimfy, And can I get a should

(02:00:45):
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