BMMS 8-12-24

Welcome Back From The Weekend!!! We Talk About The Best And Worst Parts, Walking Into  A Building With No A\C Is The Worst, Jumping Off A Bridge Won't Get You Out Of Arrest, Gimipy Single Handedly Stopped An NFL Field Goal From Happening, We Spoke To An Awesome Listener, jeff Hensley Stops By, There's A Reason Break Dancing Shouldn't Be In The Olympics, & Stadium Food!!!!

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Good morning, Lindsay, Good morning Corbyn, Morning Gimpie.

Speaker 2 (03:01):
Oh damn, we got.

Speaker 1 (03:06):
That's it. We got tickets for Oklahoma. And we've also
got best and worst of the weekend. What's the best
thing that happened this weekend and the worst thing that
happened this weekend? We've got Our listeners are awesome. This

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guy's got a purple heart and a bronze star. Hey,
pretty psych to talk to him. We got Jeff Henzi
will join us. Going through a divorce, custody, guardianship, name change.
Maybe it was a philosophical difference. Maybe you wanted to stay,
they wanted you to leave, and then they shut off
your AC. Oh Jeff can help with that nine eight

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question to us ahead of time. Email addresses show at
kmod dot com. That's what's going on here. The AC
is broken. We are lucky. We have a special AC
just for our studios, just our studios. Nobody else's just

(04:16):
these two rouses right here in the corner. So at
the radio station, there's the performance space, a couple studios
where they make commercials, and then our two studios. And
we are the only ones with air conditioning in the
building in the greate.

Speaker 2 (04:32):
What are the chosen ones?

Speaker 1 (04:34):
And you want to keep you know, a morale really low,
turn off the AC, right, I'll do it. Fire people,
then turn off the ACRE.

Speaker 2 (04:42):
You go, that's the key.

Speaker 1 (04:44):
Stop giving paper towels and coffee. Make it really hard
to get reams of paper, right and kill the reduce
the workforce by for five months, and then cut off
off the AC. You know, you mess around, you're gonna
get the other six people in here with us. They

(05:08):
like it's hot, go on. If I was them, I
would totally move my stuff down here to work for sure,
because we're not here after ten no, right, But it's
just these two rooms, So get like everybody just in
a circle when your studio or rye. I may walk
up there after the show with my hoodie on. Who
because I wear a hoodie here because it gets so cold. Yeah,

(05:31):
which is the way I like it. I like doing
the show when it's super cold. Meanwhile, they're up there
with their pants off and their shirts off, just sweating
it up in the underwear. I was like, all the
way up, I was like, oh, man, the AC's broken.
I didn't know if ours would be broken or not
or got turned off. I don't know. And I was like,
I wonder if I could do the show with no
shirt on? Would that be weird for Lindsey? Would that

(05:53):
be weird? No, I've seen it all not that like me. Nothing.
You would be tempted by me, That's not what I'm saying, like, right,
you might be disgusted. I don't know, right, I just
cannot resist. Sure, yea with the giant man bides. We're
watching Big Brother and there's a guy like he walks
like he's his shirts off all the time, like all
the time. I'm like, that's so weird to me to

(06:15):
have your shirt off all the time. Now the man
he's twenty something, I don't know, and you know, in shape. Yeah,
so maybe if that would have been that would have
been me. I would have done that but that's I've
been that he's flexing. I don't, and I don't. I
don't think so. Because there's guys that look like Corbin
and maybe even worse, you know, that walk around without

(06:38):
their shirt on because it's hot, or they just feel
like showing off their giant gut, oh know, like they
feel really comfortable with Maybe it's not even that they're
just steel really comfortable. I've never been that person.

Speaker 2 (06:49):
Maybe he got in shape for the show and he's
just feeling himself and he wants to's fair show on.

Speaker 1 (06:55):
Maybe like hey, I'm on TV right, but it's got
to be cold in there. Do you think the air
conditioning and all that, and you know my ice pickers
will be sticking out right right right right?

Speaker 2 (07:08):
Is he having that problem?

Speaker 1 (07:09):
I'm not getting close enough to really like I'm not
pension zooming in.

Speaker 2 (07:13):
You know, do other people in the house mention it, like, gosh,
will this dude ever put a shirt on?

Speaker 9 (07:19):
Nah?

Speaker 1 (07:19):
I mean not really. It's just a weird thing. Even
at home, like if we're out on the back patio,
I'll take my shirt off sometimes because it's I'm outside right,
or you know, getting a little inflatable pool or whatever.
But I'm when I go in, I put a shirt on. Yeah,
I don't know why I think when I'm indoors I
need a shirt on. It's fair. Well, I'll walk around

(07:42):
without a shirt on in my house without any problems
because I'm inside. Outside miac doesn't work the way I
wanted it to, so it's kind of a little warm
in there. Anyway. I've always my thing has always been like,
don't sit at the table or don't eat dinner without
a shirt on. You've seen people like that. What about
a picnic table? What about an outside table? Even then? Okay,

(08:03):
even then? And I blame that all my parents, my mom,
mostly because you know, boys, it's time for dinner. You know,
we're boys, we're playing, we got our shirts off, whatever. Yeah,
come to the table, you know, with without our shirt
and we're ready to scarve. But you get up, you
go back to that room, and you put a damn
shirt on and then come back. Why. I don't know.
She just didn't want to see her little man boobs.

(08:24):
I guess, I don't know. Maybe it's rude. I don't know.
I think if if you're at somebody else's house, then
it's totally rude if it's at your own house, be
able to sit there however you want.

Speaker 2 (08:37):
I fully her table, and she expects you to sit
correctly at her Sure.

Speaker 1 (08:41):
I fully expected somebody to say manners right, because that
seems like the logical answer. But what do we talk?
What manners? Just that one? You're right? Right? What about
the people that you with a mouth wide, ass open
or talk with a mouth full right? Pardon me, mom?
Could you pass the gravy please?

Speaker 7 (08:58):
Like?

Speaker 1 (08:58):
No, there's just like to pick and choose selective manners. Yeah.
I don't know what the difference what happens at the
table that makes it feel like, hey, we've crossed over
to a threshold of we must not see your skin.
The only thing that I can think of is we
don't want nipple hair in our mashed potatoes. But you

(09:19):
have more hair on your head, that is true. And
how often does nipple hair just fall out get stuck
in your teeth? Is one thing? It feels a little
more like forced. I don't know what kind of nipples
you're kissing on with a you know, hair stuck in
your teeth. I don't say mine, point say my teeth.
You eluded that it was your teeth. But nonetheless, you

(09:42):
have a very valid point there.

Speaker 2 (09:44):
I mean, I mean, and if you're eating hot gravy
and you spill, you don't want it dripping down your
chest and burning your.

Speaker 1 (09:52):
I don't know anything about that, But you don't just
eat hot gravy bites. I don't know, man, I'm not
a gravy chugger. I might be the only one in
this room who's not. You were living until you drink
the gravy street out the boat. Yeah, you hand whisk
your gravy. Yeah. Let me let me predict country gravy occasionally,

(10:17):
brown gravy occasionally only on certain nights, special nights when
you're eating green. I'm not sure if Lindsay understands what's happening.
She does anyway, I'm just saying, like it was so warm.
I was like, I don't wonder if that would be weird,
not that I would probably wouldn't. I don't know if

(10:39):
I feel again, I don't even feel comfortable taking my
shirt off in the house most of the time, like
just to walk around. Are you just afraid the kids
are going to make fun of you? Or no? No?
Uh maybe maybe secy time, right, yeah, right, maybe, uh,
underwear date night, sure, but getting in the shower, getting
out of the shower, getting dressed no problem. But then

(11:01):
as I just also don't wear pajamas to quick trip.
So I'm just a different breed, I guess, right, Okay,
maybe it's manners. I don't know. This person texted My
grandpa was taught that because he didn't want his sisters
coming to the table topless. There you go, because that
was the one they were worried about. That was the equalness.

(11:21):
They were worried about. Your grandpa. They couldn't vote when
your grandpa was young. So I don't know what you're
talking about. Everything's got to start somewhere, man. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
you could vote later right now, put a shirt off, right,
we can't have that quality. I keep remembering that TV
show where he's like women Drivers Wild, he came from

(11:46):
the past and women drivers this is crazy, it's insane.
Uh yeah, all right, So we've got our listeners are awesome,
best and worst the week, and I'm gonna find out
the best thing that happened this weekend and the worst
thing that happened this weekend. We've got tickets to rock
all home. We're gonna give away hey, and don't forget.
As we get closer to Oklahoma, those tickets for Rockaholma
become more and more valuable because you're gonna want to

(12:08):
go Rockaholma. Thursday. A chance where you can win Rockahoma
tickets every Thursday every thirty minutes. To make sure you're
listening for that coming up in a couple of days,
take a break, we'll come back and have news quiakies.
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the Big Man Morning Show. In ninety seven five kod.

Speaker 2 (13:09):
Library Girl, adult actress gets booked on felony drug wrap
in Texas Kendra Sunderland, who launched her porn career in
an Oregon State University library. She was arrested last week
on a felony drug charge in Texas. She's twenty nine
years old. She was busted last Thursday while driving on
Interstate forty five in Willis, which is a city about

(13:31):
fifty miles north of Houston. She was behind the wheel
of a twenty thirteen Lexus and pulled over by a
Montgomery County Sheriff's Office deputy. According to the report, she
was nabbed for possession of a controlled substance, which apparently
was marijuana, and she was booked into the county jail.
She was listed in police records as a Vegas resident,

(13:55):
and she shot to fame in twenty fifteen after filming
a thirty one minute webcam performance inside OSU IS, a
valley library Oregon.

Speaker 1 (14:06):
Yes, yeah, not Oklahoma State right.

Speaker 2 (14:08):
The video, which found its way to the Internet, showed
her exposing her breasts and vagina. She was masturbating and
licking herself while she did attend Oregon State. She was
not currently right her arms.

Speaker 1 (14:22):
Nope, no.

Speaker 2 (14:23):
When she used the library's Wi Fi connection to broadcast
the webcam performance via her laptop. She was then charged
with public indecency and she capped to the misdemeanor and
was fined one thousand dollars for that. But over the
years that that blossomed her film career.

Speaker 1 (14:43):
And blossomed, Yes, blossomed, Yes, bitch drides a twenty thirteen lexus.

Speaker 2 (14:48):
Yeah, well, her social media so didn't blossom.

Speaker 1 (14:51):
It didn't blossom anything twenty thirteen Lexus. Her video didn't
get big deal twenty fifteen, Yeah, so could have blossomed
it enough to by a goddamn new.

Speaker 2 (15:01):
Car she had. She she got eight hundred thousand Instagram
followers and over a million followers on x and then
she got her own signature model flesh Light.

Speaker 1 (15:14):
I mean, I think they hand those out like candy. Maybe,
like anybody can have a flesh light modeled after them.

Speaker 2 (15:22):
She recently celebrated the ninth anniversary of the Library Girl video.

Speaker 1 (15:27):
Right ever, get every drop out of a girl?

Speaker 2 (15:29):
Right? She said, the day my life changed forever. Thank
you to everyone who participated in getting me this far.
I love you all. And then busted for marijuana little MARIJUANAO. Yeah,
I love that.

Speaker 1 (15:44):
You had to explain it because I saw the headline
this morning too, and I was like, I don't know
a library girl, okay whatever, Yeah, and I didn't go,
oh now I remember the video okay, yeah, from twenty thirty. Yeah, okay,
just want to have a little bit of weed. Man
man jumps off a bridge to avoid arrest. Two point
five ounces of weed. It's not that much. Seem like

(16:08):
it anyway. He's like, that's an afternoon right, yeah, a
man jumps off a bridge to avoid arrest. So down
in Daytona Beach, police got this report of a robbery.
And this is even like last week, at like seven
in the morning. So they're cruising around and then a
spot the man suspected of this robbery. It's a thirty
two year old dude named Richard Martin. Noovic's Mark Tonovic's whatever. Anyway,

(16:31):
so the videos on our Facebook page and then the
cops are you know, start to question him, as police do,
and he says, you know what, screw you guys, I'm
out of here, climbs right over the rail of this
bridge and then jumps into the river down below, and
the cops are just like, ugh, okay, anyway, so they

(16:52):
call in the marine unit. The marine unit, not like
the actual Marines, right, Marina Marine unit of their police
to four right, the water unit, yeah, the water yeah, yeah,
yeah yeah. And so they get in their boat and
they're like, come on, come on, they go up to him,
they pull them out of the water, they arrest him
and take him to jail. That's the only thing I

(17:13):
don't think people think about when they jump in the
water is they can get to you faster, Like they
can call someone, get a boat that's probably not near
you deployed and catch up to you.

Speaker 2 (17:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (17:27):
Yeah, pretty quick, quicker than you can get to the shore. Yeah,
as the proven in this video here. Yeah, because swimming's hard,
right right. Well, he just he didn't even think. He
doesn't even give it away. He does care. He just
right off the edge. Well usually like you can see
the person look like in the direction they're going, and
he like puts something down on the ground and then

(17:48):
stands up and like leans back perfectly, goes right over
the railing and just like legs up in the air.
He probably knew that the jig was up when he
was on the bridge and he's seeing the police, you know,
approaching him anyway, and he's like, well, There's only one
way out of this sum bitch, and that's over the edge.
There's only one way to make it worse, because now
you're eluding nine year sentence for school worker for stealing

(18:12):
chicken wings. Former Chicago Area school Chicago Area school food
service director is paying the price for stealing wings. Vera
Lindell will spend the next nine years behind bars after
pleading guilty to stealing one point five million dollars worth
of chicken wings over a period of two years. Reported

(18:32):
that she began placing chicken wing orders with a supplier
in July of twenty twenty during the pandemic. She was
caught when a twenty twenty three audit showed food services
three hundred thousand dollars over budget just midway through the
school year, and the chicken wing purchases were discovered. Chicken
wings reportedly are not served at schools because they contained bones.

(18:55):
According to court records, she had stolen eleven thousand cases
of wings. Wow, So when the pandemic and nobody was
going to school, they were still ordering food and making
food for kids to like come pick up or whatever.
But she was ordered live on the top. She had
to have her wings exactly makes you wonder were you
just taking those wings home or were you selling that

(19:18):
you're selling? Of course, yeah, you want to buy a
box of wings. I got these wings nine years nine
for wings, years in jail for wings. I want to
know how much she made.

Speaker 2 (19:31):
Though, too. I want to know how much she sold
a box of wings.

Speaker 1 (19:34):
For how much? I mean, how much did she make?
How much did she make out of it? Because there's
no way every box was probably a little price a
little differently, right, right, But she's getting it for free anyway,
So well, I don't think anything that she makes off
of it, it's all profit. Yeah, you don't think no,
because now she's going to jail, I don't have to

(19:55):
pay fine now, But at that point in time when
she was you know, thought she was in the clear, Like, man,
this is a racket. I'm making money. You know, she
didn't have to pay for any of it, just or
have the school order and pay for it. She didn't
pay for it at the time.

Speaker 2 (20:09):
That right, How long do you think she could have
gone gotten away with it?

Speaker 1 (20:13):
Two years?

Speaker 2 (20:14):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (20:15):
Like, yeah, they did an audit, okay, yeah, those things
they do audits. Yeah, that stuff catches up discovery day comes,
and you also pay a tax on anything. It doesn't
matter if you get it free off the back of
a truck. There's a tax. Whether you have to pay
somebody right for protection so they don't tattle on you. Yeah,
or you get explosive diarrhea from eating bad check out.

(20:36):
I'm sure she kept them at the correct temperature, of course. Man,
would you buy wings? Lindsay out like a friend of me, like, Hey,
I got a box of wings. Would you like to
buy them? Uh?

Speaker 2 (20:48):
Probably? I do love some wings?

Speaker 1 (20:50):
Really yeah, Hey, GIMPI that's a no for me. Dog Man.
We get these people that come into the bar selling
meat of sorts and they've got it in like a
cooler bag. I won't mess with that stuff. Other people
buy it right up, look at it. I got steaks
for ten dollars. I don't know what. I don't know
where those steaks come from. Two. I don't know how
long they've been sitting in that bag at room temperature. No,

(21:14):
I'm good right. I don't know if they're really beef
exactly egg. It could be horse meat for all I
know either way, come from China, and I'm not messing
with it. I just I don't know. When it comes
to purchasing meat, I prefer to get it from the store.
I just like the chain of evidence in terms of
I know where it came from, or at least I

(21:35):
believe it better. Now, if you're buying, let's just say,
you know twenty rimis for twenty dollars off the back
of a semi. That's a little different, a little different.
At least you know you know that the semi is
temperature controlled. All right. All these stories are on our
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O D, Good morning, It's the Big nine Morning Show
nine four six oh k m o D. You can
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to eight two nine four five. I saw this crazy

(22:28):
thing because you know, Yellowstone is gonna continue on, but
Kevin Costner isn't going to be a part of it.
Michelle Pfeiffer, Yeah, is going to be the lead. There's
the shark jump it, Well, it's not jumping a shark
because that it wasn't like the fawns left right right, right,
right right. I think it's them scrambling to do anything

(22:51):
they can and keep the show on the air because
it has been so successful in the past couple of years.
That's why I say that, Yeah, like, we need another
big name in here. What can we do? I'm Michelle Vifer?
What are you doing? Apparently they'll introduce her into the
show and then there'll be a sequel series called Madison. Okay, okay,

(23:15):
we'll see again. Trying to chomp off of that Yellowstone bit.
Whatever happened to the four sixes. Wasn't that supposed to
be a show? That's the ranch that Jimmy went to
down in Texas. Yeah, yeah, yeah, And I thought that
was supposed to become a spin off of this showed
they wasted so much time. He could have just been
off the show and then come back reformed exactly to

(23:35):
be in a badass, but instead we see him. They
had a couple episodes. Some people argue Taylor Sheridan's writing
is like that, it's just nuanced and a lot of
crazy shots. Yeah, that's fair. Most of the show is
a pretty good, though I haven't found one yet that
I'm like, well this sucks. Yeah, yeah, I don't know.

(24:01):
I don't know if I'm gonna watch the next Yellowstone, okay,
like the season five or whatever. Yeah, I don't know
what what four? You just gotta wrap it up. You're
already into deep man. No, it's just no, what's the
storyline that I'm gonna get? That's a good question. I
don't know, because Kevin Costner is gonna be it's gonna
be killed in some playing helicopter crash. Right, you never know.

(24:23):
We've kind of had this discussion before, you know. I
think I think Jamie tries to take him out. Well
he's not on the show, so they can't. They'd have
to write it as he did that exactly. You miss
a massive storyline opportunity. Sure, sure you do. But then
that gives Rip a reason to come and take out
Jamie because nobody really likes him anyway or or or

(24:44):
this is all a dream, okay, And Rip is the
It's really Rip, He's the He wishes he was just
a ranch hand, right, that would be hilarious. They did
that with Dallas, right. Biggest cliffhanger ever was when who
shot jail are right?

Speaker 2 (25:01):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (25:01):
Right? And they came back. It was a dream, brilliant.
No love lost on that. But to come back and
be like, ah, the river was just he was really
his thing the whole time. It was all a dream.
And I saw you and I saw and you were
there ten men and so are you?

Speaker 2 (25:19):
Yeah? So is Michelle Fifer going to be like a
relation to Kevin Costner Or no, we don't know.

Speaker 1 (25:28):
I'm here because my uncle sent me. You've never met,
We've never been introd introduced in five seasons, but here
I am right. Or maybe just let her come in
and be the new developer that's trying to impede on

(25:48):
their land to build an outlet mall. Of course, instead
of an airport this time going to be an outlet mall,
instead of a casino, to be an outlet mall. It's
that brilliant writing. Let's see what Lindsay has for balls
to the wall. Sports.

Speaker 2 (26:10):
Well, the Chiefs were handled a loss in their preseason opener.
Casey fell to the Jacksonville Jaguars twenty six to thirteen
at EverBank Stadium. Mahomes completed three or four passes for
twenty seven yards. Carson Steele scored on a one yard
run in the second quarter. Harrison Bucker was two for
two on field goal attempts. The Chiefs will host the
Detroit Lions on Saturday afternoon, and another news wide receiver

(26:34):
Marquise Brown, is set to miss some time with a shoulder.

Speaker 1 (26:37):
Injury, not a shoulder energy injury. Broke his clavicle near
the chest plate. Super serious, Like he had to go
right to the hospital. You can die from it because
arteries that run right along there. But apparently since they
let him go home, the indication is that he's going
to be completely fine. I was thinking, because I heard

(26:57):
that phrase that you used with other teams that they
were handed a loss in preseason. Are you handed a
loss or did they hand you the win? Because who
they're not really trying, true, They're just trying, you know,
trying people out to see like how it works, yeah, yeah,
to see how players when yeah, yeah, you can't be
like yeah we got them, yeah we beat the Bears

(27:20):
or whoever.

Speaker 10 (27:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (27:24):
Yeah. It's like a little recess, little little playdate.

Speaker 9 (27:29):
It is.

Speaker 1 (27:29):
It's a scrimmage.

Speaker 3 (27:30):
It is.

Speaker 1 (27:32):
Well, they're trying plays. They're trying to see what people
do right right, where the third string're gonna work out
or whatever? You go, right, will this guy make it
or will he go back to being a delivery griver
driver for Amazon.

Speaker 2 (27:44):
Right, yeah, yeah, was it a good pick up? Or
did we as the bed when we got him in
the draft?

Speaker 1 (27:51):
All of them? Because I know you were mentioned. But
like the Cowboys game with Trey Lance, right, like everybody's like,
whoao Trey Lance? Well how about that have a settled down?
He had a great game against what fourth stringers to
imply that that is what he will be facing. Shall

(28:12):
he make the roster or replace Dak PreK it's insanity? Well,
but it's a shows promised. We've got some hope there,
do you if you think so? It's their year. Man's
that's like the fifth that's like the fourth stringer who's
just trying to make it to be on the practice squad,
has an amazing game. They're like, well, if Patrick Mahomes

(28:33):
gets hurt, we got that guy, right, No, that's something
to look forward to. Well, Prescott's get hurt, we got
Trey Lance. Which she's a better quarterback than I am.
I'm just giving him out one hundred percent. He obviously
a stud athlete. Yes, one, it's really hard to make

(28:53):
it in the NFL, and and then also really hard
to be really good, and then really hard to win
a super Bowl and then to do it twice is
insane and the third time, wow, Hey, calm down, legendary
eggs basket, hold up.

Speaker 2 (29:11):
And that's your Balls of the Wall Sports I Lindsay
in ninety seven to five Kmody, Good.

Speaker 1 (29:28):
Morning, It's the Big Mad Morning Show. Nine four six
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Speaker 2 (29:38):
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Speaker 1 (29:49):
Good morning, Gimpee, Good morning Corban. Don't forget to listen
on Thursdays, Rock Lhama Thursdays where you're never thirty minutes
away from winning tickets to Rocklaholma. All right, best worst
of the weekend? What's the best thing that happened this weekend?
And the worst thing that happened this weekend? A nine
one eight four six oh kmod. You can text BMMS
and then what you want to say to eight two
nine four five Lindsay what's the best and what's the worst.

Speaker 2 (30:12):
The best for me was probably Saturday morning. Excuse me,
Saturday morning, I woke up. I just got to sleep in.
I woke up around seven thirty and cleaned house, got
her done in a couple of hours, and then the
worst thing kicked in. I got a horrible sinus headache,
I think because of the weather change whatever, and I

(30:34):
just felt like complete ass and uh so I took
some medicine whatever, and I just felt horrible. But I thought, well,
you know what, I'm just gonna lay down and I
just binge watched a couple of shows. But I didn't
really feel bad because I had my house cleaned, so

(30:56):
I wasn't feeling guilty, like because it's my cleaning day.
I had it all done. So I was like, I'm
just gonna rest and take advantage of, you know, being
able to do so. And I did and I just
rested and that was really really nice, just have some
me time. I got caught up on Love is Blind
Mexico crash TV completely but it was awesome and I have.

Speaker 1 (31:22):
To watch it speaking Spanish, right.

Speaker 2 (31:24):
They are, but they do it's dubbed over okay okay,
and uh, it's good drama. Good drama. Don't mess with
those Latino ladies, man, they are feisty. And it's actually
probably one of the best seasons out of all of
them that I've watched. And I also got caught up
on Cobra Kai the sixth season, which I believe is

(31:47):
the final season, and yeah, it was good. It's good,
and so yeah, that was the best and worst horrible
sign his headache, But got to binge some shows.

Speaker 1 (32:00):
Okay, best and worst of the weekend. What's the best
part of the weekend? The worst part of the weekend? Gimpie.
Best part of the weekend would be going traveling to
Nashville on Saturday to go watch the Niners play their
first preseason game of the year against the Titans. I've
never been to an NFL game and that was quite
the experience. We left at like four am Saturday morning,

(32:23):
got there like noon little afternoon, hung out, did some
tour and around Nashville, watched the game, stay for most
of it. We left at the third quarter, which you know,
they endedu w losing like three points, but it's okay,
it's preseason. It didn't count, but it was fun. It
was a blast. My brother went with me and his
old lady went with me. We've none of us have

(32:45):
ever been to an NFL game, so it's cool to
experience that with them. The worst part of the weekend
is my girlfriend was supposed to go with me, but
the kids came home earlier than expected, so therefore she
didn't get to come with me, and that kind of sucked,
but it is what it is. The U was there
a good forty nine ers presence at the game. There

(33:07):
was an amazing forty nine ers presence at the game.
I was actually shocked to see how many Niners fans
were there. And I take full responsibility for the Titans
whipping one of their field goals. Okay, absolutely, they go

(33:27):
up there, Uh, it's a tough game there within range
of a field goal. He lines up, he goes to
kick at the crowd as quiet and I had a
nowhere before he kicks it, boo this man, and he
whiffs his kick. Yeah, so I would like to take
full responsibility for them missing that kick. Forty nine Ers

(33:50):
are gonna have an interesting rest of the preseason because
they have so many injuries going on right now. They've
even canceled some. They were supposed to scrimmage with the Saints.
They were like, We're not doing it because I have
so many injuries on the team right now. Yeah, that sucks.
Hopefully they can get past all that before the regular
season twenty eight days kicks in to get healthy. Yeah.
Best and worst of the weekend? What's the best part
of the weekend and the worst part of the weekend?

(34:12):
Nine eight four six, oh kmoder you can text bmms
and then whatever that is to eight two nine four five.
Best part of the weekend for me was got the
drawer open, went ahead and did get sent me a
picture of it where seats were, and I sent a
picture of the draw over and I'm like, looks like
we're both having great weekends. Yeah. And it only took

(34:33):
three holes, which isn't a big deal because no one's
gonna see the holes, right, they're all underneath the microwave. Yeah,
why did it take three holes? So the first hole
I did right in the middle, thinking I could use
a screwdriver to like leverage it down. I couldn't, And
so then I moved went a little more towards the front,
drilled that hole, could and then still couldn't get it
because it was kind of tilted in one corner. So

(34:54):
then I was like, well, I'm just gonna drill right
where that is right, and ruined the cutting board. But
I don't care. Got your special oh man, that's where
the real money was. Seventeen dollars spatula from Pampered Chef. Dude,
Pampered Chef has the best utensils, and you can laugh
and I don't care how stupid I look the real ones. No. Uh.

(35:19):
Worst part of the weekend was we uh the kids
went to my mom's. We I went and got sushi
from in the raw I had tapped my I put
a new keg in the ke garaider, watched the Chiefs
eat sushi on the back padd because it was amazing
on Saturday. And watch the Chiefs eat sushi. That's a
little weird. It's just the way you said it. Okay,

(35:41):
like you were watching the Chiefs. Actually they're the ones.
Oh right, yeah, fair and and uh so we're watching.
My wife was a little late and so I had
to pause it for like whatever a few minutes watched it.
We're starting to watch it. Just dig into the sushi,
so good. And then the NFL network just switches the
game away. Yeah, they do this sometimes, but they weren't

(36:03):
supposed to. It was supposed to be the Chiefs game
on all night. Huh. On the thing everything it said that, Yeah,
they did that last week too. On the preseason game
last week. Everything was running fine, and then they switched
over to the other one. I think it was like
the Bears and whoever was playing or whatnots and I
was like, well, what what happened? Was the game? I

(36:24):
was just watching? Yeah, even on the grid it changed
to like forty nine Ers and Titans. I was like,
what the hell man this and people online pissed that
it was like that, and I don't know how you.
I don't get it. I get that you're like, hey,
we're gonna only stay with this for fifty like telling everybody.
But even at the end of the Bears game, which
was on before, they were even saying like, we're going

(36:45):
to join the Chiefs game. Don't worry, don't worry, don't worry,
We're going to join the Chiefs game. And then they
did and then went away. It was it was dumb.

Speaker 2 (36:54):
What did somebody flip a coin and like, okay, let's switch.

Speaker 1 (36:56):
It was dumb. It made no sense, I thought, because
when they switched last week, right that the game was
just so boring. I get that, let's get to something different.
I get that. I get that, like you get the
halftime or whatever. I get that. But to go one
series and then that's it. Yeah, it was so And

(37:18):
then I tried to go to the DOFU app or whatever. Huh,
and I went to hit the servers that were supposed
to be carrying and they were like a different game,
and one of them I clicked and it was like
a baseball game. I'm like, what's happening. That's God's way
of saying, you don't need to watch this garbage. My
wife was like, Oh, we'll just get fuboo and we'll fubu.

(37:39):
Is that what it's called? Something like, yeah, because that's
cool Jay's clothing line. Yeah, yeah, I know what you're
talking about. She was like, it says it's on there.
I'm like, yeah, but that's if that's NFL network, that's
still gonna be this. I was so annoyed. And normally
locally Channel two usually carries all the preseason games, but
they didn't because the olymp bicks. So I don't know,

(38:03):
I don't know. It was very frustrating because I was offside.
So now the debut of you know, watching the Chiefs
has to wait a week, which is fine. Yeah, that
was that. That was the worst. Best went to SmackDown.
Roman Reigns tackled a dude into a wall right in
front of me. Worst it was nice this weekend and

(38:24):
now going to be hot again for the work week. Dude,
I watched SmackDown. It was awesome. Huh, dude, it was awesome.
The crowd was it was the biggest SmackDown crowd they've
ever had. Well, yeah, to be okay center, and I
mean the fact you got Roman Reigns, Cody Roads. It
was awesome. Best going out spending time with the girlfriend.

(38:45):
Worst is the weekend inning and now I'm counting down
to going on call for a week. Best was Saturday
at the lake. Got to celebrate my wife's and a
couple of friends of ours birthdays all together and we
went out on a guided fishing trip. It was great.
Worst was Sunday when we left a friend of ours
camper was leaking rain and around ac unit and had

(39:08):
an inch of rain on the floor. Another friend's roof
blew off the camper a little bit at the front
on the way home about five foot. Another friend of
ours had trouble with his bus and broke down. Then
on our way home we had a wheelbaring go out
and lost a tire on the boat trailer and had
a record to bring our boat home. That sounds san

(39:28):
That fuck sounds like a lot. Yeah, sounds like you
need a weekend from your weekend. Best Friday got to
record a hardcore show in OKC and it was insane.
We even made it on the news. Worst tripped on
the sidewalk and ate it. My previously broken hands spin

(39:49):
kicked back in January was hurting it again. Best went
camping with good friends and kids. Worst didn't put ring
guard on, so it was awakened by rain. Had to
hurry and put some three guards on three different tints.
Best watch my son play as football first ever football scrimmage.
Worst watch my son throw up the whole first half

(40:11):
of a scrimmage due to nervousness. I bet I bet
Best seeing Alice Cooper this Saturday with Nita Strauss. Worse,
I'm pretty sure I passed a kidney stone with the
intense pain I had and blood in my pea. Lord,
oh god, oh that sounds terrible. It's a weird way
to enjoy the show though, right passing a kidney stone.

(40:34):
I mean yeah, it feels like maybe those maybe you
should have gone to the show. Worst of the Weekend
doing the breaks on the truck and finding more wrong
than just breaks. Best of the Weekend. I'm alive and
counting on, even though I did not feel like it,
thanks to your best one SmackDown tickets from y'all. Worst
didn't get the email for the tickets, Well, thanks for

(40:55):
letting us know. Glad we could fix that for you.
If you didn't get the email, maybe you should have
asked us. We could have solved that for you. Maybe
we got the wrong email written down. Maybe you gave
us the wrong email. We know a guy who can
fix it. Best. Oh, have you guys read the story
about the girl that embezzled eight million? Okay, Best of

(41:16):
the Weekend. We were giving tickets to Alice Cooper. They
sat us in the seventh row. Then the crew sat
Loo Farigno next to us, so we enjoyed some Alice
with the Hulk. He was well, I don't know why
this isn't quotes, he was cool unquote cool. So should

(41:37):
I imply take that as he wasn't well, I understand
he didn't talk to you. What do you think, lindsay?

Speaker 2 (41:43):
I don't know. Maybe he didn't. He kept his cool.
Maybe so he didn't get all beefed up.

Speaker 1 (41:47):
And he's like seventy. Yeah, he ain't turning green. Maybe
just maybe he couldn't hear what they were saying, and
therefore they're talking to him because they're, you know, at
a concert, they're trying to keep it quiet, and Luke
can't hear a goddamn thing because he's deaf.

Speaker 2 (42:03):
That's right.

Speaker 1 (42:04):
So yeah, he was cool. I guess worst is a twofer.
First lost cash fell out of my pocket when getting
stuff and didn't notice until much later. Worst seating service
ever at a restaurant before the show. Got seated forty
plus minutes later. Only thing on the table was water.
Never saw a server, never even saw a beer as

(42:24):
I was told, oh, we're changing the keg okay, must
be a multi person, multi hour task. Yeah we left.
I don't know where that was at. Yeah, in Texas.
The name of the restaurant I want to know. Best
to got to be outside enjoying the cooler weather. Worst
ac home crept out yesterday afternoon. Wief. Best part was

(42:46):
family time last weekend before school. Took my son to
Comic Con to meet the voice of Mario and SpongeBob
in the movies. Wife and kid watched kids movies. I
got Deadpool. Worst part was didn't get chores done. Worth it,
that's pretty awesome. Best invited to a patience wife's birthday

(43:06):
party and was told that me and my lady were
the only ones who aren't family but were officially adopted.
Worst working in the rain since three forty five this morning.
If you're a patient, what's a patient of theirs? But
you work out in the rain, it must be his
wife's Maybe his wife is a nurse or something like that. Yeah,

(43:30):
it's the only thing I can think of, or doctor whatever.
Best I bought the old disc golf baskets from a
local college that weren't being used so I can set
up my own private course at home. Worst my wife
took an edible on our float trip this weekend, so
had to babysitter on the river. Oh god, I just

(43:51):
envisioned this carcass draped over a tube yeah, sunglasses disheveled,
yeah or not?

Speaker 2 (44:00):
Or she was woo hooing it up.

Speaker 4 (44:02):
Mmm.

Speaker 1 (44:03):
I don't know an edible right edible. Her ass probably
felt really heavy and probably would be like, are you
all that's nice you to bring a special needs person.
Let me get the drool off of your mouth. It's
not where in the whole time. All right, we gotta

(44:24):
take a break. We got tickets to Rocklahoma we're gonna
give away when we come back.

Speaker 3 (44:27):
Tulsa's Morning Show continues next with The Big Man Morning
Show on Tulsa's rock station ninety seven five km o D.

Speaker 1 (44:45):
Good morning, It's the Big Mad Morning Show. Nine four
six oh k m O D. You can also text
bmms and then what you want to say to eight
two nine four five. Let's see what Kimbie has in
his four well comment. It says here that the US

(45:06):
is strengthening quote unquotes military forces in the Middle East
and actually has strengthening end quotes. It says here that's
citing escalating our regional tensions. The Pentagon says the US
is strengthening forces in the Middle East. A Pentagon statement
issued yesterday says Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin is reiterating

(45:27):
the Biden administration's commitment to take every possible step to
defend Israel. The USS Abraham Lincoln Carrier Strike Group and
the USS Georgia Guided missile Submarines are headed to the region,
although the statement doesn't specify when they'll arrive. The Lincoln,

(45:47):
which contains F thirty five C fighters, was originally scheduled
to arrive towards the end of the month to replace
the USS Theodore or Roosevelt. Instead, the Lincoln in Georgia
will join Teddy instead. Yeah. They don't usually disclose sub locations,
all right, they try not to do that. We're gonna

(46:07):
be over here. How many sorrow How many subs do
you think are out there? Oh, I'm gonna say there's
at least thirty. Yeah, I think that's a good solid number.

Speaker 2 (46:23):
Probably between thirty and sixty.

Speaker 1 (46:26):
Okay, says seventy one by and don't know where And
that's what we know any of them is at. Yeah,
Well they know where they're at. They know where they're yeah,
where they don't know where they're at. Yeah, they be
in the enemy. What else we get? How crazy is it,
by the way that you take a group of people
and put them right next to a nuclear fusion, yeah,

(46:51):
in a tube, and then put them underwater, and they're fine,
that's it. This is fine. We're gonna live for the
next god knows how long. But we're led to believe
how scary nuclear fusion is. And they've figured it out.
They put in a can stick in the ocean. It's okay,
great news, going in a can. Pope Francis recalls the

(47:12):
anniversary of the World War two atomic bombings. Old Pope
Frank is using the seventy ninth anniversary of the World
War two atomic bombings to pray for peace. The popes
asked to renew our intense prayer for peace in the
Middle East and Ukraine, as well as in Sudan and Mayan.
Mar last week marked the anniversaries of the atomic bombs

(47:33):
dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki, Japan. In the additional prayers
for peace. In addition to prayers for peace, Old Pope
Frank also prayed for the victims of Friday's plane crash
in Brazil. I think they could like like like sixty
eight people or something like that. Yeah, the Hayes family
is suing Trump bomb the family of late singer Isaac

(47:57):
Hayes Shaft or Chef which which every one you remember
him as, is suing former President Trump for playing his
song's rallies. The lawsuits, which alleges copyright infringement, is seeking
three million dollars and damages. It claims Trump used the
song hold On I'm Coming one hundred and thirty four

(48:19):
times at rallies from twenty twenty two to this year,
with it being used in Montana as recently as Friday.
The suit also demands the campaign remove any video that
include the song in the background and issue an appalling
that's pretty precise. Yeah, yeah, one hundred and thirty four

(48:39):
times people had to hear hold On I'm Coming. Not
the song I'd expect to hear at a rally, No whatever. Lastly,
here a Muscogi church steps up to save after school programs.
Last week I told you how Muscogie Public Schools is
closing several of their after school programs. Well, a local
church is stepping up the The Temple of Hope Church

(49:01):
is offering parents a place to sign up to give
their kids a place to go. The church's program will
focus on completing homework and providing healthy snacks. The church
staff said there will still be spots left to sign
up for the after school program, so there you go.

Speaker 2 (49:29):
According to reports, Brandon Ayuk has just two options remaining
if he wants to continue playing professional football, stick with
the forty nine ers, or hope that the Pittsburgh Steelers
would be willing to pay a premium for services. Trade
talks with the Browns and Patriots have fizzled out, and
it now appears that the pay me or trade me

(49:50):
scenario might end up seeing Ayuk re signed with the
Niners if the Stealers aren't willing to pony up draft
capital in addition to a wide receiver or other player.

Speaker 1 (50:01):
We talked about this on Friday, didn't we gimpee yes
and you because you had a revelation. Uh, weekend was
pretty rough. So he gonna remind me. Jogged my memory.
He said that he was he never was gonna leave.
Oh are you? Oh yeah, yeah that conversation boy, see yeah,
it was a hell of a man. Yeah, I had

(50:21):
I had a sneaky suspicion the last week when uh
he turned down the Patriots deal because the Patriots were
giving him the most money out of anybody right, which
you would think because that's what he's there for. Right,
He's he's holding out because he feels he needs to
get paid more f you pay me. So when the
Patriots are like, hey, bro, we'll give you thirty mili

(50:44):
right to come and play for us, and he's like, nah,
I'm good. It was at that moment right then, when
I read that news, and I'm like, he's he's gonna
stick with the Niners because he's just gonna he's going
to hold out or turn down. Oh Nope, that's not
good enough. Nope, that's not good enough.

Speaker 11 (51:00):
You know.

Speaker 1 (51:00):
So he's either a gonna hold himself out of a
job and not have one, to the point to where
the Niners and everybody's just like, you know what, bye,
I don't want to mess with this. You're becoming too
much trouble all right? Oh right? Right, And and it's
kind of come down to where, like at least what
I read anyway Friday when we had the conversation was like, well,

(51:20):
now the Niners are working on more of a long term,
trying to trying to trying to make it work. But
he's a good player and they should do everything they can,
you know, they just both of them need to pull
their heads out of the ass, right and figure out
a good common ground to settle on, because I don't
think he's gonna find a place to be happy. Right.
It was up to the it was down to the

(51:42):
Browns and the Steelers or whatever, and I don't think
those are going anywhere now. So now it's just like,
you know, y'all need y'all need to stop fussing, all
right and figure it out and make it work. I mean,
he has a right to ask for more money for sure,
for sure, and he's definitely he's definitely should should get
it right. I agree with you one hundred percent. But

(52:03):
there's got to be a way that you know, they
can both And I guess this has been the problem
since what April or whatever when they first started with this,
is like they just neither one of them can come
to an agreement. So here's his progression six hundred thousand,
one point one one point seven two point three last year.

(52:24):
This year is expected to make fourteen point one, right,
fourteen point one. That's pretty solid deal up from how
much did he make last year. Yes, but in terms
of yes, but in terms of what a receiver of
his caliber makes it is not and he's on he's
a free agent next year. I understand completely. But when
the Patriots are like, hey, bro, we'll give you thirty

(52:45):
mili that's double what you're making here, and he's like, nah, right,
But then he's told.

Speaker 8 (52:52):
Exactly, then I gotta go to New England and a
team that's probably not gonna win a game, right exactly,
He's like, oh god, I'll go for the Steelers.

Speaker 1 (53:03):
That's too cold too. I don't want to go there, right,
what about the Browns? Really? Really the Browns the laughingstock
of the NFL next to the Cowboys.

Speaker 2 (53:16):
Meanwhile, my Bears look pretty darn good. Five six win.
I know, I know, I know.

Speaker 1 (53:26):
You can't say they look good.

Speaker 2 (53:27):
Then Caleb Williams made his unofficial Bears debut, completing four
of his seven pass attempts for ninety five yards. Ian
Wheelers scored a pair of touchdowns on the ground. Awesome
Booker and Daniel Hardy both registered two and a half sacks.
Bears host the Bengals this Saturday. Chicago are shuffling around
their roster. The team signed defensive tackle Jalen Hutchings yesterday.

(53:50):
The undrafted rookie played at Texas Tech last season, recording
three and a half sacks and seven and a half
tackles for loss. To make a room for Hutchings on
the roster, Chicago waved running back Dimitric felt there.

Speaker 1 (54:03):
I mean to report transactions in the preseason is a
waste of time unless it is a big name from
a team like the Patriots waving Juju Smith Schuster right right,
that was a guy that was a stud played with
the Chiefs, played like he was a stud, and they're
letting him go right or the rumors and can't see
that Kadarius Tony's gonna be let go right. Those But

(54:27):
when they're adding and picking guys up that fast in
the preseason, it's those guys may not see a snap.
And as far as Caleb went, I mean, he had
some pretty good passes, but only you're seeing against what string,
against what defense exactly. The only guys that are killing
it like slaying themselves are guys trying to make the team. Yeah, right,

(54:52):
Even Caleb Williams who played well, he ain't given it
his best.

Speaker 10 (54:56):
Not yet.

Speaker 1 (54:57):
No, why.

Speaker 2 (54:59):
Yeah, it's pointless.

Speaker 1 (55:00):
It's completely pointless.

Speaker 2 (55:02):
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(56:31):
by Ben? Ben? And and why do you remember an
age when like people started only calling you Ben or
do you really even care?

Speaker 5 (56:40):
Probably when I was younger than I can remember.

Speaker 1 (56:43):
So you know you're in trouble when someone says Benjamin.

Speaker 3 (56:46):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (56:48):
Absolutely?

Speaker 1 (56:49):
Do you know who you're named after?

Speaker 5 (56:51):
My mother's father?

Speaker 1 (56:55):
And was he u? Is there a fun story with that?
Or just because I just.

Speaker 5 (57:01):
He worked for NASA? That's all I know. I never
got the medium. He passed away long before I was born.

Speaker 1 (57:05):
What did you do for NASA?

Speaker 5 (57:07):
I couldn't tell you.

Speaker 1 (57:09):
That's fascinating because it might have been around the time,
you know, we went to the moon, that.

Speaker 5 (57:14):
Could have been. I mean, my mom was born in
fifty four, so right around the time she had me
when she was thirty three, So he died like eight
or nine years before I was born, so late seventies.

Speaker 1 (57:26):
Yeah, it says here that you got four kids. How
old were you when you had your first kid?

Speaker 5 (57:33):
Thirty three?

Speaker 1 (57:34):
Just like your mom?

Speaker 5 (57:36):
Yep, gosh, it's.

Speaker 1 (57:37):
So crazy how that happens, though, Pete. We duplicate what
our parents did and since then you in five years,
you've had four kids.

Speaker 5 (57:47):
Well, no, so I have. So I guess I wasn't
thirty three when I had my first child. My first
child is nine, so i'd have been However, Rold that
math does.

Speaker 9 (57:55):
But no.

Speaker 5 (57:55):
My girlfriend has two boys. They're my bonus sons. They're
twelve and nine. And then I have two girls, one's
nine and one's four.

Speaker 1 (58:01):
Oh okay, yeah, it says you were in the army,
you joined right out of high school. It made you
want to join the army right out of high school?

Speaker 5 (58:10):
Uh, following in my dad's dad's footsteps. My grandfather was
a Creed war Vet, you know. I guess he was
born in Canada and moved from Canada to the US,
joined when he was eighteen, served for like twenty five years,
went to Korea, those kind of things. So I just
kind of wanted to honor him and going to his footsteps.

Speaker 1 (58:30):
So when people are like, oh, what are you going?
Are you going to college? Youre going to college? Whatever?
You knew right away you were going to be joining
the army.

Speaker 5 (58:37):
Oh yeah, it was lifelong dream.

Speaker 1 (58:39):
Okay. How scared were you when you got on that
plane or bus or whatever, to go to boot camp.

Speaker 5 (58:47):
I wouldn't necessarily call it scared or you know, worried
or anything like that. I was more nervous about what
to expect. And then they take all the guests work
out of it. About the first five seconds you're off
the bus.

Speaker 1 (58:59):
Right, they tell you exactly what you're gonna be doing.
You don't have to worry about a thing. Yep, uh
did you How was it doing boot camp? Did you
get injured or anything like that?

Speaker 5 (59:10):
No, No basic training and a It was all pretty
pretty straightforward.

Speaker 1 (59:14):
You know.

Speaker 5 (59:14):
I'd never dealt with any injuries or anything like that.
I just ready to get it over with so I
could get done with it and get back home.

Speaker 1 (59:20):
Was there a point during basics you felt like it
was never going to end?

Speaker 5 (59:25):
So I remember it's kind of weird, but I remember
our drill sergeants took us to meet a platoon that
was older than us, that had been the basic training
a lot longer, and one of those soldiers said it,
one day, you're going to look up and realize that
you haven't looked at the sky and seen the clouds
in a long time. And then I remember that aha
moment of I was marching down a roadside with a

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aighty pound ruckstack on, and I looked up and I
was like, holy crap. I hadn't looked at the sky
and I don't know how long. So it was kind
of weird having him say that and then it coming true.

Speaker 1 (59:58):
What does that mean? Break that down for civilians?

Speaker 5 (01:00:02):
Basically, so you know, it's not supposed to make eye
contact with Joe Sargent, stuff like that. So a lot
of a lot of privates, a lot of soldiers look
at the ground. You know, you can't get in trouble
if you're just staring at the floor.

Speaker 1 (01:00:13):
So so that's that. That's pretty much what you did
for Basic until you were carrying that ruck that one day.

Speaker 5 (01:00:21):
Sure, you keep your head down and keep driving.

Speaker 1 (01:00:23):
And so you get deployed. How many tours did you do?

Speaker 5 (01:00:29):
I did one deployment to Iraq in two thousand and seven,
two thousand and eight, and then I did one deployment
to Afghanistan in twenty eleven twenty twelve.

Speaker 1 (01:00:39):
Was there a point during either one of those that,
from going to Basic to that that you went, oh
my gosh, this is an s show.

Speaker 5 (01:00:49):
No, I mean, it's there's ups and downs with both
sides of it. I mean, being gone away from your
family and people you know and your loved ones and
stuff like that kind of sucks. But at the same time,
the only thing you have to worry about is waking
up every morning. As long as you don't value you're
doing something right, you know, And it's it's more of

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a mental process and thought, you know, just to keep
your head up and make sure that your mental healthwhare
it needs to be and you're focusing on what you
need to finally get the job done. See, you can
come home and the others can come home with you.

Speaker 1 (01:01:20):
What did you do in the army?

Speaker 5 (01:01:23):
I was a combat engineer. Yeah, so basically there we
know how to use demolition. You know, see four dynamite,
TNT shape charges, drill charges, all kinds of stuff like that.
They're originally designed to remove obstacles from the battlefield, you know,
like Trevisha's or Constantina wire, things like that that the

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enemy would put up to slow down advancements of infantry
or mechanized infantry or stuff like that. And then slowly
over the years it's turned into one of the guys
that drive up and down the road really slow, and
dig bombs out of the ground.

Speaker 1 (01:01:59):
And how many things have you blown up? And how
many things have you dug how many bombs have you
dug out?

Speaker 5 (01:02:07):
When I was in a Viennas fan, my platoon in
a hole has probably I think we ended up finding
maybe forty or fifty id's. We've probably had fifteen or
twenty explode on us, some of those hitting trucks, some
of them just blowing up before we got to them.
Those kind of things.

Speaker 1 (01:02:25):
What's give me a story that you that sticks out
in your mind when you think about any of those
forty or fifty that you removed.

Speaker 5 (01:02:34):
So on October fourteenth, twenty eleven, it's a date that
will be etched in my brain until I die. I
was I was first squad squadler in charge of all
the dismount soldiers that got out and basically searched for
wire along the road sides because they would connect their
bombs saltinator wire or lamp cords or things like that,
and it was our job to find it in removement

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so that other units going through to do whatever they're
going to go do don't get blown up in the process.
And we were doing a thing that we called culvert hopping.
We were trying to get back to Metterlam, which is
in between Calagoosh and the Jill and me and I
had my alpha team leader out with me, and I

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was explaining to him, you know, we're just gonna keep
hopping coverts getting in the trucks. We had certain things
as a unit that we used to signify if we
found something that was serious or something that was legit
need to be taken care of. So we get out
on this colvert. One end of the covert, the left
side of the covert was completely filled with sand. You

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couldn't see in it. You couldn't see the little tombstone
that you know marks the the edge of the culvert system.
The other end of the covert, the right side was
wide open. We ended up finding lamp cord coming out
of the covert, which we call hardcore porn. That lets
everybody else know, hey, we found something. So we're probably
gonna be here for a good thirty forty minutes getting

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this bomb out of the road. So me and him
went over to investigate it. We were probably between ten
and fifteen feet away from it, and whoever the trigger
man was out in the field set the bomb off
on us, knocking me and Ross through the tree line,
knocking us both unconscious. Woke up, the gunfire, all kinds

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of craziness happening. So they turned around, and you know,
I jumped on the radio and started giving as much
direction as I could, and then we ended up getting
meta back to Jaalabad, Afghanistan, where I spent four days
in the TV clinic.

Speaker 1 (01:04:37):
So you're standing, like you guys were looking at it,
getting ready to start digging, and then next thing you know,
you're on the tree line. Right, So how far was
the tree line from where you were standing?

Speaker 5 (01:04:50):
They're probably another ten feet fifteen feet probably.

Speaker 1 (01:04:54):
Yeah, and you went into the do you got meta
backed out for what injury?

Speaker 5 (01:05:01):
So they didn't know if we were if we were
going to have I mean, anytimes you go through an explosion,
whether it be a bomb or it just be something
else that explodes around you and you get hit with
the impact wave or the shock wave coming from the explosive,
there's a potential that you could have separated in an organ,
lacerated something, You could have internal bleeding, things like that.
You know, Luckily me and him both walked away with

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all of our fingers toes, arms, legs, our life. So
they basically menavacked us out so that we could get
full body X ray and cat skin to make sure
that we aren't dealing with the internal bleeding, your injuries
that can't be physically seen with the human eye.

Speaker 1 (01:05:39):
And what's that like when you're sitting in that hospital,
because I imagine if you're the leader of soldiers, you're
very eager to get back to them.

Speaker 5 (01:05:49):
Yeah, I mean, I imagine that being like the quarterback
of a football team. Right, you get sacked pretty hard,
you're ring your bell. Used to back in the old days,
they'd put you right back in, you know nowadays to
you know, your off missions for seven eight days to
make sure that you're not gonna you know, freak out
or lose your cool or you know, just freeze in
a serious moment when somebody can get killed or something

(01:06:11):
like that. You know, they they do kind of a
good job of taking.

Speaker 2 (01:06:14):
Care of you, but kind of after seven or eight
days only, yeah, it seems like you more time than that.

Speaker 5 (01:06:23):
Well, eventually you just become a statistic. You're just a
number on a chalkboard somewhere that you'll never see.

Speaker 1 (01:06:30):
When I know, for me, that in the past when
I've gotten into a car accident and then I gotta
go through that intersection again. I have a little bit
of memory of it, maybe a little more you know,
a little more cautious. When you got put back into
the with your group, with your soldiers, was there a
not not a hesitation, but do you remember being like, okay, uh,

(01:06:51):
here we go, Like did was it? Did it feel different?

Speaker 5 (01:06:56):
Yes?

Speaker 9 (01:06:56):
And no?

Speaker 5 (01:06:57):
You know, so you've got you know, I would twenty
five years old and I had soldiers in my squat
that I was older or that was older than I am,
but I was in charge of them, you know, And
it was kind of like a I wouldn't I wouldn't
necessarily put myself as a father figure, but since I'm
the leader, I'm not going to ask them to ever
do anything I would never do myself. So it was
kind of one of those things where I didn't want
them to think they were losing me. I didn't want

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them to think I was losing it. So I just
kind of the best I could, step right back into
the role and took took hold of the reins and
handle business the best way I could. You know, there's
a little bit of anxiety, you know, every time you
get out of that truck. But eventually that anxiety just
turns into you know, fuel to keep you going.

Speaker 1 (01:07:37):
Yeah. I can't even comprehend all of that that you
just described, Like that's that's that's insane to hear you
speak about it. It says, here you got your purple
heart and bronze star. How'd you get those?

Speaker 5 (01:07:51):
That was all on October fourteenth, I being knocked unconscious.
I guess there's some kind of like new rule they
put in with the purple heart that if you're a
victim or I'm sorry, not a victim, I'll never be
a victim. If you're a soldier wounded war that involves
an id strife where you lose consciousness, you're awarded a
purple heart, which on December twenty fifth, twenty eleven, a

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two star general pend me with my purple heart and
Zeehawk Afghanistan and said, yeah it's a sergeant. Why do
you look so miserable? And I said, well, you're giving
me the worst Christmas president the soldier could ever ask for.
So it's kind of like an enemy marksmanship badge, like
they actually wounded me that day. They won that battle
that day.

Speaker 1 (01:08:33):
So you don't see a purple heart as an honor, No.

Speaker 5 (01:08:37):
Well I do, I do to an extent. But there
are guys that were much more worse than I was,
you know, you know the soldiers that we walked in
the shadows of that lost their lives in prior wars.
Those guys are the real heroes. We're just the kind
of we're the replacements.

Speaker 1 (01:08:51):
That makes sense that you feel like, I don't want
to say not honorable, but you feel like you didn't
do what they went through, right right? Yea? And what's
the difference for those that are know the difference between
a purple heart and a bronze star. Uh?

Speaker 5 (01:09:06):
So, a purple heart you give it, you get you
receive it from being wounded in action, directed in the
action or contact. You know, you get shot, you get
blown up, those kind of things. Bronze star is just
an act of notorious achievement, basically, like you did something
above and beyond what your typical duty would call for you.

Speaker 1 (01:09:28):
So where are they today? Where are those two medals today?

Speaker 4 (01:09:32):
Uh?

Speaker 5 (01:09:32):
They sit on a bookshelf in my living room, along
with a folded flag and some other medals and memorabilion
stuff from the military when I served.

Speaker 1 (01:09:43):
Do you have a recognition, a recognition, or an award
that means the most to you?

Speaker 5 (01:09:50):
I would probably have to say one of the one
of the I mean, it wasn't necessarily something that is
given to just any soldier. It was called Warrior of
the Battlefield. During our training to go to Afghanistan, we
were down in Biloxi, Mississippi, which is a whole place
centered of itself and out of I don't know. We

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had the entire, almost the entire forty fifth National Guard
there from Oklahoma, and there was only seven of US
selected out of probably six hundred soldiers, and I was
one of those seven.

Speaker 1 (01:10:22):
So wow, that's that's awesome. That's awesome. And so when
your contract was up, where you're like, I'm done or
how do you renew?

Speaker 5 (01:10:35):
Well, so I extended for US. I originally signed an
eight year contract, and then when I got deployed Iraq,
I got sent with Delta one seventy nine, which was
an amazing group of guys out of Unitt, Oklahoma. I
didn't get to go with my parent unit because my
parent unit was already in Iraq. When when I got
out of a I t so when it was when

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it was our call again for the engineers go back
over there, I talked to my ownership and I signed
a one year extension just so I could go with
the soldiers that I've already been with and have been
training and been teaching, and you know, basically making sure like, hey,
I've been here, done this before. So if I know
a better way of doing something, just listen to what
I got to say. If I don't, we'll come up
with a better reason or a better way of doing something.

Speaker 1 (01:11:19):
And what was the what made you decide to be
done and not ranlist?

Speaker 5 (01:11:25):
Just I mean, the hurry up and wait is a
real thing in the military. You know, the captain might
have told the platoon leader that we're gonna have a
formation at nine am. By the time it gets to
me as a squad leader, we're gonna be out at
four point thirty and we're gonna be waiting in formation
at five point thirty to just have a formation at
eight o'clock. So it was a lot of the just

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a lot of the rhydam Maru. Like a typical job,
you just at some point you have you've had your
feel of it. I know that with the injuries and
stuff I sustained overseas, my ability to continue doing what
I was doing was gonna get very limited. I didn't
want to get put in an office, so I decided
it was time to hang the dog tags up and
go a different route.

Speaker 1 (01:12:08):
How often does your mind still go back there?

Speaker 8 (01:12:12):
Daily?

Speaker 5 (01:12:14):
I'd say daily. There's not a single day that goes
by where I don't have a memory pop up. Or
I see something on a roadway and I'm like, huh,
that piques my interest, but I'm not getting out on
you know, I forty highway to look at a box
sitting on the side of the road.

Speaker 1 (01:12:27):
Right, right, how's your mental state with being done with
all that?

Speaker 5 (01:12:34):
I'm in a good place. I've got a great group
of friends and family that support me. I've got, you know,
my brothers that I was employed with. You know, we
don't get together near as much as we used to,
but we still have, you know, our times where there
will be about twenty of us get together and we'll
drink more beer than a lake can hold.

Speaker 1 (01:12:51):
So, and when you got done, what career did you
go into?

Speaker 3 (01:12:57):
So?

Speaker 5 (01:12:58):
When I got out of the military, stepped straight over
into law enforcement. I think I'd always wanted to be
a police officer. I know, my dad was an in
and out of jail, in prison, felling always. I grew
up with the Polk County Sheriff's office in my house
all the time. Where I grew up at in Florida,
which is Sheriff Grady Judd. If you don't know who
he is, just YouTube and you'll know, Yeah, that's the

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county I grew up in. You know, drugs and alcohol
and craziness was back then, in the nineties and early
two thousands, it was pretty bad. It's I guess it
still is pretty bad. I don't know based off what
I see on his TikTok here a little bit. But
you know, I just always wanted to be the police.
I always wanted to see what that career was life,
but the lifestyle was you know, how fun it would be,
how miserable it would be or whatever. So I ended

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up serving eleven years with a really good group of
people with the Wagner Police Department, worked in narcotics, worked
in investigations, you know, got a signed to the FBI,
did a whole bunch of whole bunch of you know,
criminal stuff, and then eventually I just I stepped away
from that due to you know, health reasons and other
other issues going on. So I just move forward from

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that into eleven years there and now I'm with a
new company and seeing how this road takes me.

Speaker 1 (01:14:12):
What was the how was being in a police officer
similar and how was it different? And what's the degree
of difference and similarity?

Speaker 5 (01:14:21):
Uh well, I mean there's a lot of similarity as
far as like you know, rank structure, following a chain
of command, uniformity. You know, you want everybody to look
the same, You want the vehicles to look the same,
be the same on the end side as they are
the outside type deal. But then there's a lot of individuality,
right you know, like some you know, a police officer's
main office is his patrol car, you know, and he's

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going to set it up to he or her is
going to set it up to where their equipment fits
the best, or their guns are easy to access, or
their you know, whatever, however their equipment set up is,
you know, what's comfortable for them. That's one good thing
about it. As far as like doing search warrants or
opts or something like that. You know, a lot of

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it's kind of set up just like you would in
the military. You know, you come up with a game plan,
you come up with SOPs, and then you go out
and perform.

Speaker 1 (01:15:13):
I would imagine, you know, being in the military, everybody's
pretty much singing from the same hymnal except the enemy
and out and out in the when you're a police officer,
everybody there's no enemy there are. You're just the police
trying to keep order. And that makes it a little
more difficult because they're playing with a you know, the

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other people, their people you're interacting with, are playing by
a different set of rules, right right, Yeah, it's.

Speaker 5 (01:15:41):
My experiences in the military carried over pretty heavy heavily
in the law enforce. And I know there's a long
written article about what's called deadly hesitation, And there's actually
a story about me from getting in a pursuit where
I ended up chasing a guy off into a woodline.
It was just being him, you know, and one of
the local news reporters there at the time was like, well,

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what kept you from shooting him? Well, the fact that
he didn't have a gun, Like, I'm not just going
to shoot somebody because they ran from me, that's nonsense,
So I don't I don't know who the publication company
was that did the article on me. Do you just
put my name in then Wagner Police Department after that
and it comes up. I can't remember what the title

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of the deal is on Google, but it's a whole
story about me chasing this guy and being a veteran
how I lied on an IQA test, which we didn't take.
We don't take IQ tests in Oklahoma to be law enforcement,
so I don't know where that test exists. But no,
I was able to read his character when he took
off run and wearing sweatpants. I know he doesn't have
some glock or a high point shoved off in his pocket,

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otherwise his pants would fall down. So he wasn't wearing
a shirt, so it was pretty simple to know he
didn't have a gun.

Speaker 1 (01:16:51):
Right, And did you know they were doing this article
or was it an after the fat No?

Speaker 5 (01:16:55):
I knew the I knew the Wagner Tribune was doing
a story on it because it was right around the
time the Michael Brown stuff happened. So and it was
kind of sad for me to be interviewed about it,
and I was like it's it's almost national news because
I didn't shoot somebody as opposed to shooting somebody. That
doesn't really make sense to me, but you know, it's

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it was a terrible part in history for law enforcement
and people in general. And you know, now we deal
with the craziness every day.

Speaker 1 (01:17:25):
So what do you do now? What's your what's your
new path?

Speaker 2 (01:17:29):
Uh?

Speaker 5 (01:17:29):
So I worked for a company called APEC. We designed asphalt, roadways,
concrete materials, things like that. So I just sit in
a quality control lab and test rock all day.

Speaker 1 (01:17:41):
Being an ac and not chasing people or being near
stuff that might explode feels like a pretty good career move. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:17:48):
The only explosions I deal with now is whenever they
blast out at the quarry is to knock more rock
out of the ground.

Speaker 1 (01:17:54):
Which seems okay, that's probably more. You're more of a
distance from that anyway, right.

Speaker 5 (01:17:58):
Oh yeah, yeah, that's more of a I just hear it,
I don't see it.

Speaker 9 (01:18:01):
So on.

Speaker 1 (01:18:02):
Yeah, Hey, Benjamin, it's been awesome talking to you, man.
I appreciate you sharing your stories of what it was
like and sharing your stories of the awards that you've
gotten and stuff, and man, thank you so much and
anything you'd like to say to other veterans that are listening.

Speaker 5 (01:18:18):
So if you're there and you know what I'm talking about,
go get the help before it's too late.

Speaker 1 (01:18:26):
Right on, Benjamin, Thank you man, I appreciate your time
and have a great day. Well let's start you too,
all right, so I see you later. It's Benjamin. Our
listeners are awesome. Take a break and we'll be back.

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eight two nine four five. I don't know if you
saw the break dancing at.

Speaker 2 (01:19:13):
The Olympic pass Oh my goodness.

Speaker 1 (01:19:16):
But one individual stole the show. Killed it.

Speaker 2 (01:19:25):
Killed something.

Speaker 1 (01:19:28):
I mean, she definitely performed, but she got a zero score.
She is probably getting more attention than any of the
other name the winner.

Speaker 2 (01:19:40):
Yeah, I think she's getting more attention than any other
Olympian at the Olympic.

Speaker 1 (01:19:45):
No, no, no from obiles is obviously getting no. I
don't know what about the pole vaulter with a giant schlang.
You don't hear much about him anymore. No, right, move over,
that's what she said, you know the but that so
she came out to defend herself. Now, for those that
haven't seen it, the Australian break dancer who goes by

(01:20:06):
the name ray Gun, Australian bee girl ray Gun, she
got raked over the coals. Yeah, like when you I
can't break dance. Also, she didn't do break dancing. No,
she's having a seizure or something. She did like this

(01:20:29):
weird bunny hop thing and it was it was very
bus She did do a headspin though, sure, yeah, which
I can't do. But when they announced that this was
going to be in the Olympics, I was like, huh okay, now,
break dancing a vital part of culture, right, huge representation

(01:20:50):
of the hip hop culture, right, so super important. But
I don't see how she's even allowed to perform. She
got a zero and when she was asked about it,
she made this statement which was I thought was really
fascinating what I could do pretty much, She said, all

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my moves are original. Creativity is really important to me.
I go out there and I show my artistry. Sometimes
it speaks to the judges sometimes it doesn't. I do
my thing and it represents art. That's what it's about.
What I wanted to do was come out here and
do something new and different and creative. That's my strength,
my creativity. I was never gonna beat these girls on

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what they do best, the dynamic and the power moves.
So I wanted to move differently, be artistic and creative,
because how many chances do you get that in a
lifetime to do that on an international stage. I was
always the underdog and wanted to make my mark in
a different way she did. I could never do it.
I could never go out on that stage and be like,

(01:21:52):
I'm about to get my ass whooped.

Speaker 3 (01:21:54):
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:21:54):
But if she didn't score a single point, how did
she even qualify to be in the Olympics.

Speaker 1 (01:22:00):
I mean, I'm not clear. I mean this is an
exhibition too write so any awards, if I'm not mistaken,
didn't go towards the metal count. But uh, if they
needed somebody and she was like, I'll go right because
like from what I hear, she has a degree in breakdancing,
which I didn't know was a thing. She has a
degree in breakdancing. That's what I's that's the news around

(01:22:23):
on the tiktoks now, and I'm like, oh, okay, one,
I didn't know that you could get a degree. You
could go to school and get a degree and breakdancing.
But I guess if you can get a degree in
underwater basket weaving, why not breakdancing. Why she lost fifty
four to nothing out of out of what total amount

(01:22:45):
of points? Fifty five? I mean she didn't get fifty four.
I can tell you that. No, she got squad douche
and then she This is what's how they judge. I
didn't know this. I thought this was really They judge
on technique, vocabulary, execution, and musicality. Okay, vocabulary, so like,

(01:23:11):
are they supposed to say something? I don't know. They're
supposed to say something as they well, I mean land
the move maybe when they're hopping around, swinging their arms
from side to side before they do like a tailspin
or something. That's yeah, what what that? That could be vocabulary?

(01:23:32):
I don't know. Okay, I don't know. And I applaud
her for like, hey, listen, I'm gonna I'm gonna make
hay because she made hey. People went hey. But with
that being said, you go to the Olympics, and if
I'm going to run one hundred meter sprint, I can't

(01:23:53):
hop it and be like, well, I'm gonna do it
my own way, right, I'm gonna be artistic. You can't
want to esca picture, right, I'm gonna do it on
my hands, right, which would be impressive, by the way.
I mean, if you could, it's impressive. She's at the Olympics.
But that's not the rules. That's not how you play
the game. It's not what's expected.

Speaker 3 (01:24:11):
Right.

Speaker 1 (01:24:11):
That would be like I'm gonna go to a boxing
match and the guy then pours peanut butter all over
himself because I'm just doing it my own way.

Speaker 2 (01:24:19):
Man.

Speaker 1 (01:24:20):
Yeah, Okay, Well, we kind of thought there was a
set of rules we were all gonna follow. Maybe she
knew that she was going she couldn't compete. She said that,
she said she was gonna get her skit. I'm up
and down, are all over the mat or whatever. At
least try your best, absolute best. That's the way I
see it. Even if you know you're gonna go out

(01:24:41):
there and get your ass handed to you, at least
give it your best and make it look like you
know what you're doing. That lady didn't look like she
knew what she was doing at all.

Speaker 2 (01:24:52):
It looked like a Saturday Night Live skit.

Speaker 1 (01:24:54):
Right five year olds when they're like, hey, look at
my new moves. She made a comment to that said
on her Instagram she said, looking forward to the same
level of Scrutinyum, what the boys wear tomorrow? What I
watched the boys that looked like and most of the
other girls, all the other girls looked like, legit, what
I expected to see in break dancing? Now? Whatever the hell?

(01:25:17):
That was not not the the bunny hop, right, the memes,
the tiktoks, Oh it's gold Man, I'm telling you some
of the funniest ones. Yeah, good news, though, we will
not be seeing break dancing at the LA Olympics. So yeah,
right there, they're like, yeah about that, We're not gonna

(01:25:39):
ye yay this steak. All right, We'll take a break
and we'll be back.

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The United States is coming home after one of the
most successful Summer Games in history. Tim USA one one
hundred and twenty six medals overall, their highest total since
capturing one hundred and seventy four medals in Los Angeles
in nineteen eighty four. American women and women's teams combined
for a total of twenty six gold medals, which is
the most ever in a single Olympics. The US was

(01:27:03):
also dominant on the track and in the pool, winning
thirty four athletic medals in twenty eight swimming Team USA
also surpassed three thousand all time medals, which is the
most for any country, and just two hours before yesterday's
Olympic closing ceremonies, a man was arrested by French police
trying to climb the Eiffel Tower yesterday afternoon. The area

(01:27:26):
surrounding the Eiffel Tower was cleared after a man was
spotted attempting to scale the structure, which is three hundred
and thirty meters tall. Cops report that the man was
finally arrested after he'd completed half the climb. Dallas fell
to the Rams thirteen to twelve at Sofi Stadium. Train
Lants completed twenty five to forty one passes for one

(01:27:48):
hundred and eighty eight yards while adding six carries for
forty four yards. Brandon Aubrey was four for five on
field goal attempts. Cowboys are going to visit the Raiders
on Saturday night.

Speaker 1 (01:28:00):
Ceedee Lamb said he doesn't want anything to do with Cowboys. Really,
that's not surprising me. I think it is. Yeah, as
much as we joke with him, that's still a great
franchise to be a part of, absolutely one hundred percent.
But I mean, if you're such a badass and they
got so much money, you know, and they ain't coming
off of it, I could get why Layer Like, all right, right, listen, Dak, listen,

(01:28:22):
you choke artist. We're not going to pay you what
you're looking for, all right, But Ceedee Lamb, you give
it to him, and he's taking it damn near every time.
He's a stud. Yeah, and I think that teams are
in a new situation where some teams are showing you
don't have to pay top dollar right to have great
receivers or running backs quarterbacks. I think you do right.

(01:28:45):
But so you think a lot of these are egos
getting in the way.

Speaker 7 (01:28:49):
No.

Speaker 1 (01:28:50):
I think they're like, I want to get paid, and
the team's like, we don't have to pay receivers one
hundred and thirty million dollar contracts because there's a whole
line of them behind you. And so then you end
up going Then you have to go, well, do I
want to go to the you know, the Browns as
you said earlier, Sorry Browns fan, but like and then
you're like, ah, I get it. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:29:12):
And speaking of the Raiders, they will play the Cowboys Saturday.
They fall failed to pick up a preseason victory. Vegas
lost to the Vikings twenty four to twenty three at
US Bank Stadium. Gardner Minshew was six of twelve for
one hundred and seventeen yards and a touchdown, while Aidan
O'Connell finished seven of nine for seventy six yards. DJ

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Turner and Zamir Why each scored touchdowns in the losing effort,
while Jack Jones nabbed an interception. Daniel Carlson was three
for three on his field goal attempts. In baseball, the
Dodgers are losing a rookie starting pitcher for the remainder
of the season. Los Angeles right hander River Ryan will
miss the rest of the year due to an elbow injury.

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Ryan was injured during his fourth career art against the
Pittsburgh Pirates on Saturday. The twenty five year old was
one to zero with a one point thirty three ERA
during his time in the Big league this summer. LA
manager Dave Roberts said that Tommy John surgery is under
consideration for Ryan, and the Rangers will be without a
member of their bullpen for the foreseeable future. Texas has

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placed right handed reliever Josh Spores on the injured list
due to right shoulder fatigue. Spores is two to one
with a three point three eight through sixteen appearances this season.
The thirty year old spent two stints on the injured
list earlier this season because of a right rotator cuff strain.
The Rangers also made a move to designate southpaw Brock

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Burke for assignment. Burke had a nine point two two
ERA through thirteen appearances this season. And that's your Balls
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Speaker 10 (01:31:58):
Hey, good morning, and Jeff is to.

Speaker 1 (01:32:00):
Answer any question you have about family law, divorce, custody, guardianship,
name change, visitation, anything like that. Jeff can answer it.
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(01:32:21):
We got it overnight. It says my X and I
divorced four years ago. Three years ago, he became obsessively
infatuated with a coworker. She did not feel the same.
This resulted in him getting fired and her filing a
po against him. He completely believes that the protective order
is fake. Despite appearing in court. He also continues to
post all over social media about this girl, calling her

(01:32:42):
out by name, not to mention she's also now married,
but he believes they will still end up together and
she will be his wife. It's to the point that
I don't feel comfortable as a mother with our kids
visiting him every other weekend. Until he stops this behavior.
My fear is that it will either cross a line
and violate the protect order, or someone who knows her

(01:33:03):
may go after him in her defense. I really feel
he needs counseling. Do I have grounds to modify our
custody arrangement to be supervised visitations based on him having
a po against him and the wild behavior on social
media which may one day catch up to our children.
Does wild social media behavior constitute anything in terms of visitation? Maybe?

Speaker 10 (01:33:24):
I mean potentially. I mean.

Speaker 11 (01:33:25):
The thing is is that you have to show that
the person is a potential that he let me put
that to Sorry, I'm can you put this way? You've
got to show if you especially if you want to
do it in an emergent situation, you've got to show immediate,
irreparable harm. Okay, so you've got to show something that,
oh my god, if we don't pull the kids out
of this situation, they're gonna something's gonna immediately happen to him. Now,

(01:33:47):
you can't fix stupid, and you can't fix crazy. Okay, Well,
you can fix crazy, but only with people who actually
want help, and this guy is gonna obviously have to
want help. Going to counseling or a therapist or taking
meds or something. Obviously he's got an issue. But with
that being said, you know, I understand mom's concerns. Totally
get it, you know, especially with the social media stuff.

(01:34:08):
You know, obviously we don't know these people, so we
don't know their backgrounds or anything like that, or who
they're connected to or who they know or anything of
that nature. But you know, I understand mom's concern I mean,
when you go for a modification, you have to show
that there's been some sort of you know, major change
that would warrant visitation in some way. This may rise
to it, but the main thing is you've got to
show if he's going to put the kids in harm's

(01:34:30):
way in some way and mouthing off on social media,
which you know, how many millions.

Speaker 10 (01:34:35):
Of people do that every day.

Speaker 11 (01:34:36):
I mean, everybody's got big cohonies behind a keyboard and
a screen. I mean, that's just the fact we say things.
A lot of people say things on computers and cell
phones and tablets that they would never ever have the
guts to say to somebody to their face. So you know,
he may be mouthing off and causing issues.

Speaker 10 (01:34:55):
You know, the protective order.

Speaker 11 (01:34:56):
If he violates it, he'll go to you know, they
come after him, he'll go to jail. It won't affect
the kids because the kids will go to mom anyway.
So there's not you can't file a modification per se
just because he has a PO. If he violates it, obviously,
then you know, Mom will get the kids. Then we
talk about maybe an emergent situation that way, and af

(01:35:16):
you know, definite modification if he's violating and those sorts
of things. But you know, you've got to show that
there's some potential danger to the kids. And again, I
can see it from mom's perspective. It's just that does
it rise to the level of something the court would
want to deal with?

Speaker 1 (01:35:30):
What was the phrase you used?

Speaker 11 (01:35:31):
Immediate ir irreparable So it's spelled like irrepaarrable, but it's
pronounced irreparable harm.

Speaker 1 (01:35:38):
Right do protective orders get issued when someone isn't in
irreparable harm? I'm just well, I'm trying to that.

Speaker 11 (01:35:49):
Only applies so that the immediate irreparable harm only applies
to an emergency custody order through their divorce proceeding has
nothing to do with the PO because pos are between
two people. Typical in this case, you know, it's him
versus the person he's been you know, psychotic about or whatever.

Speaker 10 (01:36:07):
That's a different.

Speaker 11 (01:36:09):
That's a different standard, right, Okay, then emergency custody, which
is immediate irreparable harm.

Speaker 1 (01:36:15):
And I'm just playing the role of the mother here.
But if I'm the mother, if the court deems he
may be a danger and that other individual needs protection
from them, then should my kids be allowed to go
with someone who's potentially, at least in the court's opinion,
might do something that dangerous.

Speaker 11 (01:36:29):
Well, you have to again, you've got to show that
he's going to harm the children. And unless he's taking
them along to go start a fight or you know,
he's doing something to the children, it's hard to get
an emergency custody situation simply because you've got to.

Speaker 10 (01:36:43):
Show that kind of danger to the children, not this
could happen.

Speaker 1 (01:36:47):
I Mean.

Speaker 11 (01:36:47):
One of the things I always, you know, take the
time to explain to people is our whole system and
this is true for the legal system across the entire
United States. All Right, our system nationwide, Our system is reactionary, Okay,
it's not. We don't file things because something could happen,
something has to happen, and then we deal with it

(01:37:08):
under the law.

Speaker 1 (01:37:11):
You know.

Speaker 11 (01:37:11):
The the example I always give is that the movie
Minority Report with Tom Cruise right where they had pre
cogs and all these other things and arresting people before
they could potentially do something dangerous and stupid. Right, you know,
we don't have that, And in the movie I think
pretty clearly saw why it's a problem. But you know,
our system is reactionary. Yes, I understand her, these things

(01:37:34):
could happen. I get that, But at the same time, too,
nothing has happened to the children, and until it does,
the judges don't have authority to do anything until something
has happened, and.

Speaker 1 (01:37:45):
The mom just has to sit on her hands and hope.

Speaker 10 (01:37:48):
That's our system. Yeah, that's our system. I mean, that's
completely our system.

Speaker 11 (01:37:52):
We have to give people a chance to do the
right thing, and if they don't, they hang themselves with
their own rope.

Speaker 10 (01:37:57):
Then that's when we step in and do what we
need to do.

Speaker 1 (01:38:00):
This email says, my sister was married to a coworker
of mine here in Oklahoma. They got the divorce finalized
last week. In a couple of weeks he's going to
Arkansas to get married. Is this legal? I thought you
had to wait a period of time. Okay.

Speaker 11 (01:38:14):
So here's the great debate, okay, and I call it
that because you the law says you cannot get remarried,
all right, within six months of the divorce. Unlet's it's
to the person that you've been married to previously that
you just got divorced from. Now here's where it gets tricky.
Some judges interpret that to mean you can't get remarried

(01:38:37):
within the physical boundaries of the state.

Speaker 10 (01:38:39):
Of Oklahoma within six months. Okay.

Speaker 11 (01:38:42):
Then there are those that believe you can't get married
anywhere to anybody in the world for six months, all right.
So it's about as great as it gets. No one
is going to be prosecuted, okay. So if you think that,
you know, you're gonna turn this person into the district attorney,
they're not going to prosecute for somebody going across state

(01:39:04):
lines and getting married less than six months after a divorce.

Speaker 10 (01:39:08):
Not going to happen.

Speaker 11 (01:39:09):
Our district attorneys in every single county in this state
have far more important things to worry about, like murders
and rapists and arsonists and child molesters and you know
that kind of stuff. Then oh my gosh, she got
married three months early, okay, or she got married three
months early, okay, that's not going to happen. You're not
going to see a prosecution for that. It's a very

(01:39:30):
great area. And I've talked to a number of judges
in a number of counties about this issue, and they
all interpret it differently. So again, some that the two
thoughts are the two biggest camps are within the physical
state boundaries of Oklahoma, so anywhere in the state you
cannot get remarried, which is why people go across state
lines to go get married in you know, Little Rock
or Hot Springs or Eureka Springs or something like that.

(01:39:54):
And then there are those that believe you can't get
re married to anybody in the entire world, anywhere in
the entire world.

Speaker 1 (01:40:00):
For six months.

Speaker 10 (01:40:00):
Those are the two biggest camps of thought.

Speaker 1 (01:40:03):
And is it equal to like, hey, you can't feed
your horse after eleven PM. I mean, it is a thing.
These judges do have different opinions, but in forcibility, and
it's not going to.

Speaker 11 (01:40:12):
Be right, it's not gonna bean forced. It's just not
going to happen. There are too many people that have
done it. And on top of that, again, our prosecutors
and our police officers have far more important things to
worry about.

Speaker 1 (01:40:25):
Jeff Finsleys joined us from Hensley and Associates. You've got
a question about divorce, custody, guardianship, name change, any family
lost scenario. Jeff's here to answer it for you. Nine one,
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That's the text from last week. My son's mother and
his three siblings live with her parents. There's an ongoing

(01:40:47):
DHS investigation on her. I'm concerned my son may end
up in state care. Is there anything I can do
to get my son out of the situation she has
put him in?

Speaker 11 (01:40:57):
Well, I mean, if anything happens to that, they're going
to go to biodad first. Unless biodad's got a record
of some sort felonies that kind of thing.

Speaker 10 (01:41:06):
The kids should come to dad.

Speaker 11 (01:41:08):
And that's typically how it works when DHS steps in,
and especially if they're going to do a deprived child action.
You know that if there's a safe place to put him.
That is a kinship placement with a first a an
actual parent or you know, a family member. After that,
the kids should come directly to him anyway. I don't
know why the kid is living with grandparents sounds like

(01:41:29):
I mean, my question to this guy would be is
are you having visitation?

Speaker 10 (01:41:32):
What's going on?

Speaker 11 (01:41:33):
So, whoever this is, whoever sent this in, please call
me at my office corbyll announce the number at the end,
Please call me. I'd like to talk and get more
information about this. But just based upon what we've got,
the kids should automatically come to him anyway, assuming he's
not part of the problem that caused DHS to step in.
If he's not, then d just should give him the
kid first. Anyway, they shouldn't. The kid should not be

(01:41:55):
ending up in foster care.

Speaker 1 (01:41:56):
You've mentioned before that if you have a child out
of wedlock that the father has to establish a connection
to the child, right to the child.

Speaker 11 (01:42:04):
Well, right in regards to visitation and those sorts of things. Yes, Now,
in these situations where DHS steps in and there's a
potential bio dad, they'll contact him, They'll have him take
a DNA test. He'll pass it, and then the kid
will end up in his care.

Speaker 1 (01:42:17):
So it's not a light switch scenario. It doesn't automatically.
He'll have to approve that he is the father. There
could be some steps.

Speaker 11 (01:42:24):
Typically, yeah, I mean, there may be a step in it.
If no one's really contesting that he's dad. A lot
of times they'll go ahead and place him anyway. And
especially if he's got an existing relationship with the kid,
they'll go ahead and place the kid with him anyway.
So and then of course he can be adjudicated through
the juvenile action if there is a juvenile action that's filed.
If there's not a juvenile action that's filed, then we
can file paternity for him and get that, you know, established,

(01:42:46):
and have him adjudicated dad by a court and all that.
But I mean, either way, the kid should still end up.

Speaker 1 (01:42:51):
In his care. Should you be assertive if he gets
information that there the kid has been take deprived Child
Act has been engaged and they take the child. Should
the father then make the phone call? Should they make
the phone call DHS be like, I'm the dad.

Speaker 11 (01:43:09):
I would I mean, absolutely, again, especially if you've got
a relationship with this kid and you know who the
kid is. Yes, absolutely, be a sort of you know,
do something about it ahead of time so you don't
have to wait through all the other rigamaro to get
your kids.

Speaker 10 (01:43:22):
So absolutely.

Speaker 1 (01:43:25):
Does Jeff do patent and LLCs?

Speaker 10 (01:43:29):
No, I don't.

Speaker 11 (01:43:30):
I Actually, interestingly enough, I actually have the requirements under
my belt for the patent law. I just haven't taken
the patent bar. There's very few patent attorneys in the US.
There's less than thirteen thousand in the entire United States,
simply because of the tough requirements. I actually can sit
for the bar, I just haven't done that. As far
as who to call, give me all my office. I'd

(01:43:51):
be happy to refer you to different individuals.

Speaker 10 (01:43:54):
I'm both.

Speaker 11 (01:43:54):
I've got a great friend that I used to work
with at a firm a long time ago that handles
business stuff like LLC and all that, and they'd love
to help you out.

Speaker 10 (01:44:02):
So please give me a call. Happy to for you.

Speaker 1 (01:44:04):
Someone's text in. My favorite reminder I've heard about law
is that legality and morality are not the same thing
with the legal systems. Very true.

Speaker 11 (01:44:11):
If you want moral law, go to Europe, get up
and move and go to Europe and lose all the
other stuff you get here in the US. So if
you want morality law, go to Europe. If you want
actual law stuff, I guess stay here. You know, this
has also been a long debate amongst attorneys, I think
for a long long time. Is you know, there's the

(01:44:32):
legal rights and then there's the ethic, you know, moral
right right.

Speaker 1 (01:44:36):
You know, so.

Speaker 11 (01:44:38):
We have to follow what's required of the law, and
it may not be what our morals are, you know,
And so it's it's a unique question for sure. But
if you want moral law, Europe's got it right and
early for you.

Speaker 1 (01:44:51):
Jeff Finsley's here from Hensley and Associates. If you have
a question about divorce, custody, guardianship, name change, adult guardianships,
anything that has to do with family law, he can
answer it. I'm on eight four to six oh kmod
or text bmmss and whatever that question is to eight
two nine four five. I feel like I know the
answer to this one, but I'm going to read it anyway.
I eat organic food and live a clean, chemical free life,

(01:45:11):
down to organic shampoo and laundry detergent.

Speaker 10 (01:45:13):
Good for you.

Speaker 1 (01:45:14):
My new baby even wears cloth diapers, Who do you
talk to if the X mentally abuses the children? He
also tells them all the time that I will go
to jail if I don't obey what he tells me.
What tells me to do?

Speaker 11 (01:45:27):
Okay, So first of all, consider your source. Obviously he's wrong.
I think that the tenor of the question is is
that the X isn't doing the organic stuff.

Speaker 10 (01:45:40):
Sounds like so I read it. I actually had this as.

Speaker 11 (01:45:43):
An issue about eight or nine years ago in a
divorce case where one side was as organic as you
could get, essentially, and you had the other side who
ate more junk food than you could stand. So we
put a parenting coordinator in place, and the parenting cordinator
made recommendations as to the foods that would be used

(01:46:07):
and things like that. Now, in the case I had
that I'm thinking of, there was an issue with the
child's digestive system and that was one of the reasons
they did organics.

Speaker 10 (01:46:19):
That may or may not be the case here. So
you know, judges are just happy that dad gum kids
are eating okay. So you know when people say, well, they're.

Speaker 11 (01:46:31):
Feeding them too much junk food or they're taking them
out to eat too much, or they're not giving them organics. Look,
I get your personal convictions. I understand it, and that's
great for you, and I know you want your kids
to be healthy and all that. But the courthouse to
look and see, well, is the kid eating yes, Is
the kid, you know, getting water and drinks? Yes, you know,

(01:46:54):
is the kid being abused by being fed stuff?

Speaker 10 (01:46:58):
Not necessarily?

Speaker 11 (01:46:59):
I mean, if if it obviously, you know, if there's
a huge overeating problem and they're gaining one hundred pounds
and all these other things, there might be some health
issues there we need to address with the court. But
for the most part, judges just want kids to be
able to have to eat because as we know and
we hear, especially going into the summertime every single year,
about the number of kids that don't get to eat,

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that can't have live in families that can't afford to
have food all the time. So so why we have
summer programs at schools for feeding kids and things like that.
So again, I get your conviction, but just be happy
the other side's taking care of the kid and feeding them.

Speaker 1 (01:47:36):
Is the judges put that on the same level as
when they're over at their dads. They stay up till ten,
or they're over their dads and they play video games,
or yeah.

Speaker 11 (01:47:45):
I mean the kid is being taken care of againning
unless you can prove the child is suffering some sort
of major harm. Okay, Now that doesn't mean that a
kid should get a free for all. Okay, I'm not
saying that you should do it. You know Will Smith
and Jada Pinkett Smith did with their kids and just
kind of like, hands off, do what you want.

Speaker 10 (01:48:03):
I'm not saying that.

Speaker 11 (01:48:04):
I'm saying you want to have established rules. But at
the same time too, as long as you know the
child is being taken care provided for, roof over their heads,
they're not being mistreated, they're not being beat up, they're
not being you know, abused.

Speaker 10 (01:48:20):
That's kind of what the judges look to.

Speaker 1 (01:48:22):
First. Stex says, I'm trying to buy a house that
my divorce isn't final. I was told by a friend.
If I don't wait until the divorce is final, she
will be entitled to the house. How can I buy
a house and ensure she has no rights?

Speaker 11 (01:48:37):
Well, anything after anything you do, this is true for
anybody that files divorce. Anything you do after the data
separation or the date you file, whichever comes first.

Speaker 1 (01:48:46):
That's yours.

Speaker 11 (01:48:47):
You can do whatever you want. It doesn't affect the
marriage in any way, shape or form. They don't. So
if you buy a house after you separate, or you
file for divorce during the divorce proceeding, that house is yours.

Speaker 10 (01:48:58):
The other side can't touch it.

Speaker 11 (01:49:00):
And unless you're putting down a huge down payment, there's
no equity in the thing anyway, so there's no money
for her to get. So anyway, the law is anything
done after the date of separation or the data filing,
whichever comes first. All right, that's your stuff. They can't
touch it. That's your debt, that's your asset, whatever it

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may be. That's your own stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:49:22):
How does one legally establish date of separation if they
don't file?

Speaker 11 (01:49:28):
Well, okay, so the data of separation issue only applies
if there's an actual diorce filed. So you can't say, well,
we're separated. I mean, I guess, let me some people don't, right,
and let me back that up. Okay, so I misstated,
let me let me back that up. The data separation
is most people typically agree on the data separation because

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it's when the other person moves out typically all right,
or they say I'm done and they walk out.

Speaker 10 (01:49:57):
I mean that there.

Speaker 11 (01:49:59):
I've never had any anybody dispute the actual data separation.
In fifteen years of practice, in thousands of cases, I've
never had anybody say, well, I don't agree, that's not
when we split. Never had anybody say that, So it's
pretty easily defined, to be honest, I've never.

Speaker 1 (01:50:14):
Had that situation. Nobody goes, well, now it was November fifth.
You're like, no, it's November first.

Speaker 11 (01:50:19):
Well, unless you've got a major purfect purchase between November
one and November fifth, who cares.

Speaker 10 (01:50:23):
No one cares.

Speaker 11 (01:50:24):
The judge's going to say, okay, November of twenty twenty three,
whatever it may be.

Speaker 10 (01:50:28):
I mean, it's usually not much of an issue.

Speaker 1 (01:50:32):
Jeff Finsley's available to answer any question. You heard him say, hey,
you can call my office to give me some more information.
That number is nine eight three nine eight five six
nine two. Any family law scenario, the folks in Hensley
and associates are there to help. And if you mentioned
KMOD you get a free consultation over the phone. Nine
eight three nine eight five six nine two. And I
don't know, maybe this morning, you were driving in your car,
ended up in a ditch and you got injured, and

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you guys can help with that too.

Speaker 11 (01:50:56):
Right, absolutely so through our office in Pehusca, we help
with that. So whoever was wrecked on one sixty nine
South Fountain this morning, please give us a call. We
you know, we'd be happy to help you. Our office
in Pahusca. It's the Shoemaker Law Firm. Yes, it's a
different name, but it is our firm. We just left
the name because it's been there since the nineteen seventies.
Everyone knows it, so please give them a call on

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anything in addition to family law. If you've got a
criminal case, if you had a dui this weekend because
you were drunk and being stupid, give us a call.
If you've got any criminal issue, give them a call.
If you've got any pro if you've got a probate
issue or a contract issue, or you need a will
or trust drafted up, or you need a contract reviewed,
or anything like that, please give them a call up

(01:51:37):
at the Shoemaker Law Firm in Pahusca.

Speaker 10 (01:51:39):
They'd be happy to help you.

Speaker 11 (01:51:40):
Or you can call us here at Hinsley and Tulsa
and we can get you hooked up with them as.

Speaker 1 (01:51:44):
Well, six nine two for Hinsley Associates nine one eight three,
nine eight five six nine to two. Jeff, have a
great week, hey too, Take a break and we'll be back.
Tulsa's Morning Show continuous.

Speaker 3 (01:51:57):
Next Jax The Big Bad Morning Show, Telsa's Rock Station
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Speaker 1 (01:52:23):
Good morning, It's the Big Mad Morning Show. Nine one
eight four six oh KMOT.

Speaker 4 (01:52:30):
Well.

Speaker 1 (01:52:30):
One thing that got not as much attention, maybe because
of the Olympics with preseason football, is the announcement of
some of the stadium foods that they will be available
in NFL stadiums. All right, and there's one humdinger we'll
get to, but I'm just gonna name some that came up.

(01:52:51):
How about big red mac and cheese, barbecue bit brisket,
nacho cheese, hot cheese dust. I'm okay with that.

Speaker 2 (01:53:04):
What I mean, the barbecue brisket and mac and cheese
sounds wonderful, But nacho cheese.

Speaker 1 (01:53:11):
Dust good, yeah. No, or hot Cheetos dust or whatever
cheeto's dust. Yeah, a little spice in there with that crunch.
I mean, mac and cheese is really good. When it's
got a little bread crumbs toasted on it. This is that,
but with spice.

Speaker 2 (01:53:24):
Okay, I'm fine with spice, but I don't know. I
want real.

Speaker 1 (01:53:29):
Cheese, not dust as you're putting cheese with. Okay, sure. Uh.
The jalapeno cheddar dogadilla. This is a hot dog wrapped
in a tortilla and then the outside's toasted like a caesadilla. Okay,
it's interesting. Sings simple enough. Yeah, gost you forty bucks,
but seems simple enough. Yeah, these sound great. A chicken

(01:53:54):
and waffle sandwich. Tell me the waffle is the bread
on the same absolutely maple, chive, butter, honey, hot pimento,
cheese bites, and a fried pickle. And then of course
the chicken and.

Speaker 2 (01:54:10):
Waffle leave off the pickle. I'll try it.

Speaker 1 (01:54:14):
I'm telling you. Chicken with pickle so good. Chick fil
A kind of made it. Yeah, I know, I kind
of know what they're doing. And then you're taking those
buns and turning them into delicious sweet waffles. Yeah. Yeah.
How about the meatball hogy? Now you know what a
hogy is. It's like a sub sandwich, right, yeah, Well,

(01:54:36):
this is on a stick, so they've made like an
s out of the bread, and then in between the
two s's is the meatball. Okay, so you can eat
some meatball, you can eat some bread. Okay. Yeah, I
don't know. It seems fine. I don't know if that's
something that I'm really excited about. I've never been a

(01:54:57):
huge fan of like those meatball subs. Meat ball, they're
just messy.

Speaker 2 (01:55:03):
Yeah, it seems like it would be easier to eat though.

Speaker 1 (01:55:05):
On a stick. Everything's easier, right, not pizza, right, Pizza
on a stick is not easier.

Speaker 2 (01:55:14):
It's enjoyable either, yeah.

Speaker 8 (01:55:17):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:55:18):
Load in French fries. So you get French fries and
then you get to decide what toppings you want on it.
Your choices are buffalo chicken okay, good, Korean barbecue, pork cheese,
steak okay, vegan, street style whatever, s'mores? What almost swore?
Right here?

Speaker 2 (01:55:38):
Sweet and salty perfect?

Speaker 11 (01:55:39):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:55:40):
Yeah, so fries aren't always salty like most of times
you're like these need more salt, No, but they are
a savory kind of flavor as opposed to that. So
I dig that. I'm imagining it's gonna be like melted
chocolate syrup, right, uh, and then like, you know, fluff,
heated up marshmallow fluff so it drizzles on there perfectly,

(01:56:02):
and then sprinkles some gram cracker dust on top of
that with some fries a Dan, you still gotta eat
them before thirty seconds. My wife I was sharing her
there's this thing going around where you take marshmallow fluff
and put it on the inside of like a cup
and then fill it with coca cola, and it's supposed
to be really good, right. I was so sharing it
with my wife and she was like, marshmallow fluff's not good,

(01:56:25):
thank you. I was like, I've known this woman, damn
near fifteen years. And I was like, huh, do we
need to get Jeff back in here?

Speaker 2 (01:56:35):
Yeah? Right, marshmallow fluff is amazing.

Speaker 1 (01:56:38):
I agree.

Speaker 2 (01:56:39):
I mean with peanut butter on toes she's on.

Speaker 1 (01:56:43):
She was like, and don't ever make that garbage you
make with it, which is peanut butter and marshmallow fluff.
I was like, I don't know, why are you arguing
and fighting with me right now?

Speaker 2 (01:56:57):
Okay, marshmallow fluff and cream cheese makes the best fruit dip.

Speaker 1 (01:57:01):
Oh my god, you're gonna just go through your marshmallow
fluff recipe, now so good. How about the the ringer,
a foot long corn dog coated in honey and then
rolled in blue taki crumbs. I'm out on that one.
You had me all the way up until the blue
taki crumbs. Right. Blue Taki's are fine, Yeah, they're not

(01:57:25):
really that good. Roll that up in something else. I
might be in im.

Speaker 2 (01:57:28):
You'll eat takis five, Yeah, they're sore.

Speaker 1 (01:57:32):
Cheetos cheaters are fine, They're fine. I'm not like. Yes,
Now you take that same foot long wainter and then
roll it in honey and then with some of those
flame and hot Cheetos crumbs. I think you may have some, dude.
I'm I'm intrigued to the idea of doing that and
rolling it in some kettle chips, right, or even some fritos. Okay,

(01:57:55):
some doritas just like regular nacho cheese doritas.

Speaker 2 (01:57:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:57:59):
Lets you just have like a thing of like ground
up chips. Yeah, roll your own dog. Yeah, I like it.
This is called inZone mac and cheese, mac and cheese
with pulled pork, jalapanios, green onions, bacon bits, barbecue sauce,
buffalo sauce, or ranch. So I like mac and cheese
that will sometimes have like something else in it. This

(01:58:19):
is too much. It's too much for me. I can't
do all that cheese curds with garlic on top, like
mince garlic. Okay, fringe fries with mince garlic on top
is so good. Oh yeah, So I can only imagine
cheese curds are just as good, like like garlic aoli
or something like that would be good. Yeah, something dip

(01:58:40):
it in.

Speaker 8 (01:58:41):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:58:43):
There's a new thing that I've seen go around a
couple of times. I already lost it, but and that
is walking tacos are making this incredible like comeback establishment.
I don't know, and I didn't know what it was.
And so I saw the new It was this morning
and they were talking about somewhere in Mexico they were
doing like this walking taco festival or whatever, and I

(01:59:06):
was like, walking it's a freedo piees essentially. Yeah. Yeah,
it's just chips in a bag and then the meat
dumped on there. So nachos pretty much basically that's not
a taco, no no, but you're holding it. It's in
the bag like you know how you have to hold
a taco because the elongated show. You hold it a
certain way. That's how you hold this. So it's just

(01:59:28):
but you don't eat the wrapper. It's not a taco. No, no, no,
no no.

Speaker 2 (01:59:32):
I didn't know. I'd never even heard of it until
I moved to Oklahoma.

Speaker 1 (01:59:35):
I've never heard of it at all, and I've lived
here since two thousand and one. It's been a thing
at the fair of the last couple of years. I've
seen them around. I mean, I've seen Fredo's in the bag, yeah,
and I think Quick Trip does a version of that too,
for like their nachos or whatever. It's like, here's the bag,
open it up, put your stuff on the inside, and

(01:59:56):
then down the road you go. And then the piece
that resistants of apparently the football concessions introductions for this
year is the cotton candy burrito. So here it is
no ice cream, fruity pebbles, fruit loops, marshmallows, Skittles, Mini Eminem's,

(02:00:18):
gummy Bears, sprinkles rolled up in cotton candy. Hey Fatty,
that's too much sugar for me.

Speaker 2 (02:00:34):
A diabetics dream come true.

Speaker 1 (02:00:36):
Just hearing you rattle off all those ingredients made my
leg tingle and not in a good way, Like, let's
chop this some bitch off. I mean, if you have one,
you're fine. If you eat one every day, yes, you're
gonna lose your leg, Yeah, for sure. I don't even
know if I could sit through one whole one like that.
You know, there gets to be a couple of things that, like,

(02:00:57):
you know, if I get too much shit in man,
I'm just like, I can't, I can't, I can't. I
gotta stop eating this.

Speaker 2 (02:01:03):
Do any of these foods have the nutrition facts?

Speaker 1 (02:01:06):
No to them? The idea of this, I don't hate this,
and I would get this, I wouldn't be able to
eat at all. I'd have to share it with like
two or other people or something. But we we do
when we play video games, like we all play video
games together, we take we instead of a secoutery board,
we do it and put all sweets on it. So
like cookies and fruit loops and gummy bears and whatever

(02:01:26):
we have, right, and this is the same thing. It's
just rolled up in a thing. So I don't see
what the big to do is. Why is this so
over the top? But you know, a three pound hot
dog with two pounds of French fries seems completely okay.

(02:01:49):
Sodium right, yeah, yeah, yeah, whatever. Heart attacks better than
losing a foot? Yeah, I don't know. I don't know
if very many people die that I'm losing a foot.
I know a lot of people that die from heart attacks.
Maybe it's just me, and it looks fun, it looks whimsical.

(02:02:10):
That's what I think of when I think it. Desserts,
give me the most h give me the most whimsical
thing you have on the menu. You don't think you
don't think like ice cream Sundays are whimsical, or those
malt shakes you always see that have like eighty five
thousand things on them, and the to be candy desserts
are always whimsical. I rarely have used the word. I'll

(02:02:33):
even go on a lemon and say, I've never used
the word whimsical in a statement ever before. So maybe
it's something I need to start working on. Be more
whimsical with my vocabulary. You are whimsical with your vocabulary.
I don't know what you're talking about. Just because you
don't use the word doesn't mean you aren't that. I
can give you many examples of words that you are

(02:02:54):
that you don't use. All Right, we got to take
a break. We'll be back more of the Big Men Morning.

Speaker 11 (02:03:22):
I'm a.

Speaker 1 (02:03:27):
Good morning. It's the Big Man Morning Show. Nine eight
four six came in mode. Lindsay, what'd you learn today?

Speaker 2 (02:03:33):
I learned that Gimpy wants a wiener olden honey and
this NFL season come to the stadiums for the food
and stay because you went into cardiac arrest and died.

Speaker 1 (02:03:44):
Gimpy, what'd you learn today? Well, I learned that you
don't look whimsical as you're drinking gravy straight out of
the boat. And I also learned that it's nice to
know that I'm not the only one that's heard hold on,
I'm coming one hundred and thirty two times. Don't you
think a lot of yourself? I never said it happen.
I learned that you can be a successful porn star

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and also frugal as you drive your twenty thirteen lexus.
And I also learned walking taco she's a nice lady.
Let me say make sure that dishwashers looted.

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Rape it's stop tracking my cycle?

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Yes is skippy and I'm sorry? Can I get a.

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