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news I saw yesterday. I think it's shocking that the
apparently Bixby had their fall dance fall home Home. I
don't know if they called homecoming or fall dance or
you know, has a little different name for it, I guess.
And allegedly, allegedly he was intoxicated, the principal, Yeah, And

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allegedly he miscoozied some people. Allegedly again this is some
students said he was acting not okay and he smelled
of alcohol, and they told uh, some other grown ups
and that's when they intervened and dealt with that. And

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I was trying to think, there's no way this is
the first time, first time that he showed up to
a function drunk. He engaged this way. Oh do you
see what I'm saying, Like, there's no way. You just
don't suddenly decide to be intoxicated, allegedly when you show

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up at some in your job scenario like maybe I
don't know, like maybe another extracurricular event in an athletic
event ball, basketball games. Maybe even Okay, I could see that.
I could see that. I mean, there's got to be
a first day for everything, of course, all right, but

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it feels like maybe you want to cut a rug too.
I don't know, well, cut a rug is a fancy
term from the old Age for dancing. Maybe maybe he's like,
you know what, it's a dance. We're all supposed to
be having a good time, and I'm just gonna have
a few nips. Parents and teachers are not They're not

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there for a good time. I know this. They're here
to chaperone and make sure the kids. There's enough room
for the Holy ghost between you, right.

Speaker 7 (06:16):
So I spoke to one of the students that was
at the dance because why because one of my girlfriends,
her daughter attends that school, is a student there.

Speaker 1 (06:25):
Oh okay, and I because and.

Speaker 7 (06:27):
I wanted to make sure that she wasn't one of
the students.

Speaker 1 (06:29):
That So you called it, you called a student that you're.

Speaker 7 (06:34):
I called my girlfriend and she said, put your good
kid on the phone. When she didn't answer, I called
her because she's like a daughter to me, And I'm like,
you weren't one of the students that were harassed. Were
you And she's like no, but she was like, you know,
at first we thought, is this is this some sort
of joke? Is this actually happening? Like they called the
dance off short, like they they dance. Yes, they ended

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it early and they and she said, you know, at
first we noticed him out on the dance floor quite
a bit, and we thought, well, he must be just
making sure everything's on the up and up, you know.

Speaker 1 (07:07):
Making sure everything feels appropriate for.

Speaker 7 (07:09):
Everyone else is dancing appropriately, and then.

Speaker 1 (07:12):
Nothing around, you know, checking on people not out there dancing,
trying to do the sprinkler or something right, doing a
little running man. But then it was the lawnmower.

Speaker 7 (07:24):
Once you got closer walked by, you could you could
smell the alcohol on him.

Speaker 1 (07:30):
Yeah. Yeah, from what I understand, it was not like
maybe yeah, it was feel pretty certain. They suspended him immediately.
Well yeah, which is like totally the right way to
handle that, That's what I'm saying. And it just there's
no way you go that far into the rabbit hole
that fast. You maybe have like one and then you're

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like wow, step one and then go and then the
next time you have two, and then next time you're
like bottomless, right, packing a flask to the high school
dance Yeah, yeah, hey, and listen, in the good old days,
that was fine, right, you spike the punch and everybody
had a good time.

Speaker 7 (08:10):
Right.

Speaker 1 (08:13):
I was trying to think too, like as you were
describing it too, it made me think of it again.
Is I'm under the impression that parental figures, teachers, principals,
whoever are there to chaperone from the sides. There really
should be no reason for a parent, in my opinion,

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or principal or staff member to be out on the
dance floor unless something is sketch sure, right, and unless
they think somebody's you know, pulling a head off of
a flask.

Speaker 8 (08:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (08:50):
Do you see what I'm saying? Like it should be
a responsive scenario, not a policing scenario, because it feels
like it gets in the way. So the fact that
he was out there just like doing the Charleston or whatever, Nann,

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I got a song for you guys. Get ready, we're
gonna do the hole pokey and how about this too?
This is then this part is really fascinating to me.
There were no other because there's no way he was
the only administrator there were no other administrators dealing with it,
So I don't know if just the principle should get

(09:32):
in trouble, like the whole faculcy that was involved in
this dance should there should have There are other higher ups, right,
assistant principles, any other person should be like, yo, why
did this? Why did the students intervene? Right? Right? Anybody,
any adult who came in contact with that guy before
he got out on the dance floor should be held

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to something. I get it because if you think about
it and let you you go, and I'm just let's
say it was at the gym, it was at the
renaissance or whatever. So yeah, you know, they've got to
have like a check in desk, right Maybe I don't know.
I mean, I don't know about like a parent checking
desk or whatever, but huh. And that's that also leads
me to believe like everybody knew this was his thing

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allegedly right there, like ah, will he doing Willie things?

Speaker 7 (10:22):
Or maybe he had a room there and he would
escape to his room.

Speaker 1 (10:28):
But he's but doesn't matter, He's still at some point
had to intervene with other adults. Hey, Like hey, Lindsey,
good to see you and you're like, or shake his
hand or something, and you didn't. You weren't suss to
his behavior or the dilation of his eyes or the
fact that he was meskeusei and like no parent intervened
until a student said something.

Speaker 7 (10:50):
Well, maybe the other chaperones and parents were, like you said,
on the sides watching and he was the one that
was on the dance floor.

Speaker 1 (10:58):
But again, that would be beyond our behavior to be like,
why is he doing the the lawnmower? Hey, Principal Skinner? Yeah, Hey,
what's going on? Man? Are you okay? I've principled a school? Yeah,
principal today, couple commissioner Tom, there was another joke because

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corporation commissioner was drunk, you know what I mean, Like,
there's there's I find it impossible that he let's just
I'll go with that. He was in his room, which
is bizarre too, to get a room there unless you
plan you know, you're planning on getting hammered. That makes
it bizarre. Then you come down from your room and

(11:45):
never interact with another adult. You don't make eye contact,
you don't shake hands, you don't hmmm. As the CEO
of the school at that point, of that school, you
would glad hand thanks for helping out. Good to see
you have fun tonight. Thanks for doing this clear a
good parent. We appreciate you. Guys wouldn't be able to
do this up parents. There's some glad handing that hashtag.

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You're like an ambassador that. So I find it impossible
that there was no interaction with another adult if they
were had this you know, keger in their room beforehand.
Maybe they did, and maybe they just didn't think anything
of it. Maybe he piled on so much cologne and
put so many mints and pennies in his mouth, you know,

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try to cover up the smell of the alcohol that
they just that's fair. I think that's a fair statement,
except you, already, as a parent shown up to that,
are being sus of that type of thing. Right, your
radars already on high alert. Unless there were others involved. Okay,
they were also at the keeger, which is possible, totally

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totally also not okay, right of course, they just know
how to control themselves right right then, So I just
I wish there was like video I could see how
that happened. So the kids are like Missus Smith, Missus Smith,
Principal Skinner is is drunk on the dance floor and

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they're like, what, that's impossible, Principal Skinner, what are you doing?
Just dancing? Shaking the boy? Yeah, teaching like that. There's
some conversation like that conversation what a weird environment, and
the them ending it early is interesting too. Well, though

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that should have been just handled and moved on, unless
it was a little more like if he it's unclear
of the what he was doing with other students, at
least according to news reports, like was he just trying
to dance with other students or was he grabbing Tushi's right.

Speaker 7 (13:50):
I said it was inappropriate.

Speaker 1 (13:52):
I mean, that's that's a pretty broad stroke though. Sure,
putting his hands on them at all is inappropriate. But
it to me, if he's like putting his arms around
him dancing or if he's trying to grind, that is
all way inappropriate. I don't know if that's you know,
ending dance worthy. I don't know.

Speaker 7 (14:10):
Yeah, well maybe because of the fact that there was
alcohol involved and now that there needs to be an investigation,
they decided to end it to make sure that there
weren't students given alcohol.

Speaker 1 (14:21):
If he gave students alcohol he'd.

Speaker 7 (14:24):
Want to pull off flask right off.

Speaker 1 (14:27):
For David, like guys always name their flasks for some reason.
I don't know why, and pull off a margaret. It's weird. Yeah,
it is weird. Uh yeah, I could see that that
makes sense, just wild m hm, because there was I
remember going to dances and there was drinking, but it

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was always above four. Oh yeah in the parking lot
before only one uh you know Heath Ledger Josh Harnett
type character would bring alcohol in. What I mean is
somebody who was trying to be like the bad boy. Yeah,
spike the punch. There was no spiking. We didn't have punch.
There was no spiking of punch, never had no, we didn't.

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There was no cupcakes, there was no punch. There was
dancing sounds like a lame ass dance. No punch to spike.
Yeah there. I don't recall there ever being a table
with snacks refreshmk. Yeah, nope, I don't. Tex says known
him a long time, so out of character. Very bizarre.
Think about that. People that have some sort of thing

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like that, it's very closeted.

Speaker 7 (15:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (15:34):
I know plenty of people that were addicts and they're
like we had no idea. Just think of the news
the guy who kills somebody, and they're like, he was
the nicest person. We had no idea until he wasn't.
Until he wasn't. You don't know people. And then this
other one says, did the principal have no friends at
the dance to pull him aside? And said, dude, chill

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makes me think he wasn't too popular amongst the staff,
like they would like let him out to die. Set
them up. If that's true, they should also get in trouble.
Then that means they took that they did not take
the kids safety into account right right out of spite.
Either way, the adults in the situation should have a

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stern talking to. There was some adult failures for sure
all the way around. You lose your job after something
like this, don't you. So this is interesting. Uh, he
could definitely quit, not get fired, and then then get
another job, which may be the route that it goes.
A lot of people that get in do bad things,

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from leaders in the communities to teachers to UH doctors
to first responders. They just quit and then it's not
on their record. So what do you do if nothing
comes of it? He doesn't quit, he doesn't get fired,
he gets slapped with a wet noodle, and it's just
like he's not getting sled. They're gonna they're probably gonna

(17:00):
terminate him. I would imagine, like to think that if
the things that have been alleged did happen and they
let him stay. Yeah, that's what I'm talking about. That's
what I'm saying. There's no way the people that are
elected officials are gonna let that stand. Right, the board
that that district as this, they've built that district to

(17:21):
a certain respect level, and this doesn't help that they
have had some issues though, some about broomsticks and now alcohol. Yeah,
so I'm just saying that, like they don't take that stuff,
they shouldn't take that stuff too kindly. Right, So I
can't imagine he doesn't get in trouble. I don't think

(17:42):
it's far enough to go like you won't see other
people get out of the way. Yeah, because you've got
to restore faith. Oh so far as like other administrators
canna be Yeah, I'm stepping away. You need to see
that some change is going to happen, and the best
way to do that just get out of the way.
That makes sense, but he goes kind of a bitch man. Yeah,

(18:04):
they are. There's nothing criminal that can happen to this guy. Yes, no, maybe, yeah, no,
he got arrested. He got arrested. Republic Intel plug, Republican talks, okay. Yeah,
and if they find that he did touch a child,
right then there'll definitely probably be a charge there. This
is a good thing too. Wow, this is a yeah,
I forgot about this. I'm sure Ryan Walters has the

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biggest not our listener, Ryan Walters. Imagine you're talking about
the state superintendent because he was at odds with the
state superintendent and the superintendent was calling him names on Twitter,
which is very adult. Yeah, that is. I'm sure we'll
hear some chirp from you know, a video in a
car right about what his thoughts are on it. Yeah,

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all right, we got to take a break. We've got
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On the five, poo Kano sends human waste thirty three
feet into the air before raining down on streets when
pipe bursts suit Yeah, this is stomach churning. The waste
was contained in newly laid sewage pipes before of Vorteca

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poo erupted in Nanning, China. It propelled a staggering thirty
three feet of excreement into the air like a geyser
and splattered its gunk across the motorway. Dashcam footage showed
a billowing cloud of orange up here before globs of
poop pounded drivers wind screens. Unsuspecting pedestrians were drenched with

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human waste as they strolled along the avenue. Clip showed
some of the bikes being forced to cycle through the squalor.
Several vehicles sustained damage, and one driver reportedly complained, I'm
drenched in poo. My car is splattered.

Speaker 1 (20:40):
I wouldn't say that.

Speaker 7 (20:43):
Yeah, no, say it's ruined.

Speaker 1 (20:46):
They would have never said that, well, because they're They
would have said it in Mandarin. Yeah it sounded.

Speaker 7 (20:53):
Images were revealed yeah exactly of the Pooh cano, which
left behind sea of excreement. The pipe ruptured on a
section of the road undergoing work at around eleven am
on September twenty fourth. Authorities revealed that no one was
injured by the explosion, but the blast was so powerful

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that a diggerer flipped over at the site. It's thought
that the rupture took place as engineers conducted a pressure
test during the laying of the sewage pipes. Officials rushed
to the scene to carry out a huge cleanup operation
after the blast. Local authorities reportedly are investigating its causes
to prevent similar incidents in the future.

Speaker 8 (21:35):
Skoopdid whoop.

Speaker 1 (21:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (21:37):
It comes just after a month after millions of dead
fish washed up along the shore of a scenic Greek city,
and it reaked so bad tourists refused to eat out.
Images from the Volos and Central Greek region showed floating
carcasses creating a silvery blanket across the port, and the

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stench was so alarming that locals and authorities rushed to
scoop the fish away before it got to tourist hotspots.
Ooh yeah, restaurants took a hit with the smell of
the rotting fish so pungent and the site so repulsive
that nobody wanted to visit the area.

Speaker 1 (22:17):
Yeah, poop is gross.

Speaker 7 (22:19):
So nasty, Yeah, so nasty.

Speaker 1 (22:22):
Did they say what caused it?

Speaker 7 (22:23):
Yeah, they said that it was a pressure test on
the newly laid sewage pipes.

Speaker 1 (22:28):
Too much pressure, huts pressure. I always thought they did
pressure tests with not the product that would be carrying
in it. There's only one way to find out if
we can handle this lude. Belgian priest arrested after a
deadly night of sex and drugs with a British clergyman.

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This comes out of Belgium, where a sixty nine year
old priest decided he wanted to hook up with his
sixty year old clergyman friend. So they go and they
meet up at the house whatever, and I guess the
the priests fell unwell, that's what it says anyhow, So
he's like, I'm gonna call nine one one, So he

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calls nine one one for himself and then you know,
he ends up falling out and they can't resuscitate him. Right, So,
come to find out, the priest, the priest and the
clergymen were doing ecstasy and poppers that night and they
had the sex and then that was shortly after that
is when he fell ill and died. So they're doing

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their investigation. They they found some other ecstasy, some more
ecstasy in the room when they searched it. The sixty
year old priest was questioned by police and the investigating judge.
He has been arrested and charged with drug trafficking resulting
in death. Wow, going on, that is so many, so

(23:58):
many questions. Right, I'm sure it was their first time,
Oh for sure, Yes, I'm sure you've never DoD it? Okay,
first of all? Sixty nine? Yeah, good on you bro? Right?
May I be so lucky at sixty nine? And it
hooks up with a younger one, you know, nine years younger? Yeah,
I don't get within that ten year window. I don't

(24:18):
consider that younger, but you're right it technically is. I
consider that within the spectrum of okay. I mean, if
you're a twenty year old hooking up with a ten
year old, that's no, that is true. GIMPI that it
is incorrect. But so I'm like, good at sixty nine,
I hope I'm that lucky to your point, like being
sixty nine hooking up with somebody sixty cool, and then

(24:39):
that's pretty much where it ends for me. You're not
gonna take the ecstasy and the puppers. I mean, if
that's what you want to do at that age, good
on you. But when you are what you do for
a little for your living or you're calling, then I'm
starting to go, well, that doesn't make much sense. We're
gonna go hard tonight, reverends. And it feels like I

(25:00):
I understand my hierarchy correctly. This person was taking advantage
of somebody under their below them in rank, which also
not okay. There's a lot of questions with that. One
city council passes rat birth control bill named after Flacco.
The New York City Council is passing a rat birth

(25:21):
control bill to help control the rodent population. Flacco's law
calls for establishing a pilot program to phase out the
use of rat poison and replace it with non toxic
toxic contraceptive pellets, which experts say are safer for animals.
It's named it is safer. It doesn't kill them, so sure.

(25:47):
It's named after the beloved Central Park al Flacco, who
died earlier this year after eating rat poison. The city
has unsuccessfully tried to tried rat birth control in the past,
but hopes this time it will work due to improvements
in the handling of garbage and advancements in rat contraceptives.
So hold on, one owl dies and we're like, but

(26:11):
we love this owl. It was so cute. We would
see it. How do they know it was the same owl?
Maybe maybe they asked him his name, They're like, is
your name Tom? And he's like, and the owl said,
who carries an id with him? Right? Has a name? Tag?
Now maybe it was the same moon. I have no idea.

(26:32):
I remember the story of this owl that you know,
everybody was very excited to see in New York City.
But it's rats kill.

Speaker 7 (26:39):
Rats, Yeah, right, Maybe the owl was tagged.

Speaker 1 (26:43):
Banded. You had a band, like like, like, what kind
of music do you think they play?

Speaker 9 (26:48):
All?

Speaker 1 (26:49):
Right? Oh, you mean tagged with a band? Got it? Yeah,
maybe that's all possible. Of course, when I go to
New York, that's my bingo card is rats. Will I
see rats? Okay? Will you feed the rats? Or will
you try to do every day as much as possible
because you're seeing those videos on the internets, you know,

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New York rats running off with a whole slice of pizza.

Speaker 2 (27:14):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (27:15):
You know, if I do, it won't be intentional, Okay,
it'll be just kind of a they took it from
me or right? Right? You see people out there feeding
pigeons all the time, but nobody ever really feeding the rats.
I am not a pigeon guy. Yeah, no, don't feed pigeons.
I'm not someone who like when we went to Venice
years ago, sorry that was my practice marriage. When I

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went to Venice with my now dead ex wife, the
people would like like stand Americans mostly and let pigeons
land on them and then take silly pictures. I'm like, ew, yeah,
what are you doing? They're like it's still amazing. I'm like,
we have pigeons in America, right, but these are these
are there are time virgeons. Right, they're very they have

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long hair in their armpits. Right good, possibly right very,
they're very. Swing that way. Yes, I'll take a break
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of the weekend. Best thing that happened this weekend and
the worst thing that happened this weekend. Let's see what
Lindsay asks for. Balls to the wall. Sports.

Speaker 7 (28:56):
Week five of the college football season is in the books.
Toppering text Is defeated Mississippi State thirty five to thirteen
in Austin, arch Manning passed for three hundred and twenty
four yards and two touchdowns as the Longhorns moved to
five and oh number twenty one. Texas A and M
notched it's fourth a straight win and in twenty one
to seventeen victory over Arkansas. The Aggies are four and one.

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Texas Tech beat Cincinnati forty four to forty one. The
Red Raiders are four and one. TCU took down Kansas
thirty eight to twenty seven on the road. The horn
Frogs are three and two. Baylor fell to nineteenth ranked
BYU thirty four to twenty eight in Waco to slip
to two and three. SMU stunned Florida State forty two
to sixteen.

Speaker 1 (29:38):
Awesome, awesome Florida State. Wow, they were supposed to be
so good that I think they're winless. Yeah, they may have,
only maybe they've won. I'm sure Florida State mid friends
getting mad right now. We will one, Okay.

Speaker 7 (29:55):
Houston fell the number sixteen Iowa State twenty to nothing.
North Texas down Tulsa fifty two to twenty, and Rice
lost to Charlotte twenty one to twenty. And there's been
a change atop the latest College football Coaches pool. Texas
is now the number one team in the nation, followed
by Alabama.

Speaker 1 (30:14):
Dude, that Alabama Georgia game, Man, it was awesome to watch. Insane. Yeah,
I think with with the teams that have joined the
SEC with OU and Tech, it has made for some
ridiculously awesome games. SEC already had pretty good games, now
it's just forced them into even better games.

Speaker 8 (30:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (30:34):
Yeah, So we got Texas, followed by Alabama, Ohio State, Tennessee,
and Georgia.

Speaker 1 (30:40):
Oregon, Penn State, Georgia only dropping that many is shocking
to me. I think they should have dropped more. They'll
dropped four spots.

Speaker 7 (30:50):
Yeah, Oregon, Penn State, Miami, Missouri, and Michigan run up
the remainder of the top ten. Oklahoma moved to number
seventeen after Saturday's victory over Auburn twenty seven to twenty one.

Speaker 1 (31:04):
When Michael Hawkins Junior, when he ran into the end zone,
I was like, what is he doing? Why is he
and then he jumped over that I was like, whoa,
what that was?

Speaker 10 (31:13):
Why?

Speaker 1 (31:14):
That was a how maybe a turning point for that team.
They did not look like they were going to win
that game.

Speaker 7 (31:20):
They came in. It was a surprise. Kansas State took
the biggest to jump in the pool. The Wildcats rose
five spots number twenty after their forty two to twenty
victory over Oklahoma State on Saturday YouTube Oklahoma State.

Speaker 1 (31:33):
I don't know why is this level of performance continued
to be accepted out of Gundy. I don't get it.
I don't get it. That's that was not good. They
were not good.

Speaker 8 (31:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (31:50):
I saw something. I saw a headline this morning and
it wasn't a very like it wasn't like ESPN or anything.
So it was kind of like, I don't think I'll
read into that too much, but it was goodbye Gundy.

Speaker 1 (32:02):
Like I mean them saying it. I mean, he's not
making a case to stay. Everybody thought there would be
normally you have he has the Bedlam game. Oh if
we win Bedlam, that's good. When they have no more.

Speaker 7 (32:16):
Utass up for the biggest drop, going down eight spots
to number eighteen. Indiana is number twenty four after not
being included in last week's rankings. Oklahoma State was the
only school to drop out of the top twenty five. Rightfully,
So yeah, yeah, and then well we could go over
our predictions. Not yet, you don't want to. No, you

(32:38):
have forty sevens Oh yeah, okay, then let's go with
Dereck Henry in the road.

Speaker 1 (32:42):
Just wrap it up.

Speaker 7 (32:42):
Fine, that is your Bass of the Wall Sports. I'm
Lindsay in ninety seven to five KMO.

Speaker 1 (32:59):
Good morning, It's the Big Mad Morning Show. Nine one,
eight four six oh KMOD. You can also text DMMS
and then what you want to say to eight two
nine four five. What's the best and what's the worst
of the weekend. We'll get to that coming up, but first,
Good morning Lindsay.

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Speaker 1 (33:42):
Good morning, gimbye Oil, Good morning Corbyn. Seven Dust is
going to be at the Canes Ballroom this Friday. Would
you like to go for free hit af website at
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sign up for tickets. There, let's do the best and
worst of the weekend. What's the best thing that happened
this weekend and the worst thing that happened this weekend
BMMS and what that is to eight two, nine, four five,

(34:06):
and uh, we'll start with Lindsay. Lindsay, what was the
best and what's the worst?

Speaker 11 (34:10):
Uh?

Speaker 7 (34:11):
The worst was I was supposed to see Billy Joel
on on Friday night in Saint Louis and I didn't
get to why because they postponed the show.

Speaker 8 (34:23):
Oh because it was.

Speaker 7 (34:25):
Storm and Norman in uh Saint Louis And it was
so did you go no, because they postponed it till
last night?

Speaker 1 (34:33):
No? No, no, when did they find out? They postponed
early on Friday morning?

Speaker 7 (34:36):
They postponed it?

Speaker 1 (34:37):
And were you going to fly or drive? Drive?

Speaker 7 (34:40):
It's five hours? Not yeah, about five hours?

Speaker 1 (34:43):
It's like six No, it's not okay.

Speaker 7 (34:47):
So I so, but I was able to sell my
ticket at least that's fast. Yeah. Yeah. One of my
moms oh in that area. So yeah. So it was unfortunate,
but at least, you know, I still got made my
money back on it, right, not a complete loss, right exactly.

(35:08):
And so I and I did think long and hard
about it, but I was like, no, there's no way
because I mean, the show started not until seven or eight.
I think last night there was no way and my
mom did take a bunch of video and send it.
I'm like, that's just not the same, but no, but nice.

Speaker 1 (35:27):
Try if your mom does video like my mom does
video and it is not the same at all, they're
probably this same God love. Oh yeah, exactly.

Speaker 7 (35:36):
Uh the best, I guess. So on Saturday, my oldest
went to the fair for the first time and he
was really really excited and he came home and he
was like, all right, I can see why you didn't
want to take me all these years. And I was
like why He was like, I mean, it was cool
and all, but I told him, I said, listen, you're

(35:58):
gonna have to spend your own money on this. And
he did not like that. He did not like waiting
in line for rides. He was like, I felt like
I was back at Disney World because he waited forever.
He got yelled at by some drunk man that was
also in line waiting, and he was like, dude, I'm
a kid, like step.

Speaker 8 (36:15):
What are you doing?

Speaker 7 (36:17):
And uh yeah, he said the best part was the food.
But he said, man, I spent one hundred and thirty
dollars and thirty five of it was on games.

Speaker 1 (36:29):
And I didn't win anything.

Speaker 7 (36:30):
And he was with his girlfriend and he said, I,
you know, it was nice hanging out with her and
her family. But I just, yeah, I'm won and done.
I'm good.

Speaker 1 (36:39):
It's like unless she wants to go. Yeah, yeah, So
was that the best of the worst?

Speaker 7 (36:46):
That was the best because he was like, want and done.
So now I won't have to listen here.

Speaker 1 (36:50):
Yeah, okay, yeah, best and worst the weekend? What's the
best thing that happened this weekend? And the worst thing
that happened this weekend? Bmmss and whatever that is to
eight two, nine, four five, GIMPI what's the best and
what's the worst? I guess the best part would have
been Saturday had celebrated a friend's birthday party down at
the lake for Gibson. There, Saturday went camping. I haven't

(37:16):
tent camped in a while, but it was fun. It
was It was really nice. Yeah, you know, got a
little chilly, probably about five six o'clock in the morning,
but that's okay. Just pull the blanket up, curl up
next to my lady and keep warm with body heat
and worked out just fine, but had a great time.
It was after party and playing kickball with the kids,

(37:38):
you know, and just having a good time out there
at the lake. Do you have like a like, like
what's your camping thing like? Do you have like a
just a sleeping bag and the tent or do you
have like you know, some people have like the mat
and they have like a light and they have like
all these Oh no, it was pretty basic. I had
a an air mattress, you know, with with some blankets

(37:58):
and pillows or whatever I ever met. Are great for
when you want to sleep on the ground. But just
not right yet right delay, Oh my god, man, waking up?
Just my back just hurt. It hurt all day yesterday
because of it. But it was It was good, It
was It was well worth. It was mine and my
lady's first camping trip, so that was fun. That was fun.

(38:21):
But yeah, that would be the best part. The worst
part of the weekend. My girlfriend and I went to
the fair on Friday, and you know it's It's fair.
The first time I've been to the Fairy without the
show and for goddamn ever, you know, at least twelve
years anyway, but we got really excited and searched all
over the Midway for the deep fried bacon wrapped oreo.

(38:44):
Remember we talked about that here. I was like, this
sounds delicious. That was the worst part of the weekend
walking around trying to find this sum bitch. Finally found
this some bitch and we get it. And what I
was expecting, my expectations versus what I got were two

(39:05):
totally different things. Okay, I was expecting in an oreo. Yeah,
you know, it feels fair wrapped in bacon, right, maybe battered, okay,
and then deep fried. That's that's what I'm picturing when
I when I read the description of what this thing is.
Right when I get there, it was just a single, tiny,
little oreo that had been wrapped in bacon and then

(39:26):
just thrown in some some grease to fry up. The
bacon was not fully cooked. It was still kind of
white and rubbery. I get the premise behind it. I
like the idea. The flavors seemed to work. It was
just their execution was poor, poor, poor poor. So we

(39:46):
both ate that and was like, well, damn it, that
was a that was a waste eh and and just
just kind of went to hell from there. So there
was no batter, no, no, it was just a regular
oreo with the piece of bacon wrapped around and then
fried up. And it wasn't even you know, fried all
the way bacon. Let's stick to some bitch in the
air fryer something something. But it was just it was terrible.

(40:10):
How much for an oreo wrapped in bacon? It was
like twelve dollars you get four Okay, yeah you're not
getting just one, you're getting four of them, but dollars
a piece, So yeah, I know, but I mean it's
fair food. What do you what do you expect?

Speaker 4 (40:26):
Right?

Speaker 1 (40:27):
But it was just we had to power through. And
they gave you like this like a dollar of like
whipped cream or something to dip it in. It didn't
help it any you know. So we had to power
through because I'm not wasting a dollars eight dollars. How
bad would it have to be completely raw bacon like

(40:48):
not even like to just stillype of bacon? Okay yeah,
yeah for me not to power through it. But it
was it was bad. It was did you eat anything good?
We had? We had some dumplings from the Lucky Lucky
stand there, which was good, and what else did we

(41:08):
have dumplings like Old country dumplings or dumplings like Asian
Asian dumplings. I heard that there's a pretty good Asian setup.
Maybe it's that one. Yeah, those are pretty good. Try
to think of anything else that now, that was all
that I ate. She had a corn dog, but that
was about It's typical fair stuff or whatever. You know.

(41:29):
Of course, had to pay too much for a for
a cold beer, but you know it was worth it.
And then pet the animals. That was fun too, eh,
don't talk about her that she is nice, nice lady.
We went to go check out the hogs and the
uh and the four tough barn, you know, because those
are the animals the only animals they had out. We

(41:50):
was hoping for like cows and horses and stuff. But
it was just a night of the pigs, I guess,
But whatever, it was cool. Best and worst of the weekend.
What's the best thing that happened this weekend? And the
worst thing that happened this weekend. Best part of the
weekend would be I guess we put out some Halloween
decorations in the house. If that's the best. Worst part
of the weekend is my youngest has been sick pretty bad.

(42:12):
And apparently she has walking pneumonia. Oh that's nic Yeah,
and now I think my other one has it. So
that's pretty much been it.

Speaker 8 (42:20):
Great?

Speaker 1 (42:20):
Yeah, yeah, good times? Right, best and worst of the weekend?
What's the best and what's the worst? Bmmss and what
that is? To eight two nine four five? This one says,
worst thing had to work all weekend? Best thing, My
shift partners are awesome. A bad shift with a good
partner is better than a good shift with a bad partner. Best.
My nephew got his first pick six. He's in third grade. Awesome, Worst,

(42:45):
too many activities in one weekend. Best of the weekend.
I finally got a new graphics card for my computer.
Worst of the weekend almost got ran off the road twice.
Now this person had to clarify because I guess they
felt the need to. But they said that they got
the RTX four zero seven zero. It boosts more power

(43:07):
than that of a PlayStation five or Xbox Series X.

Speaker 2 (43:11):
Oh good for you.

Speaker 1 (43:13):
I'm gonna believe you. I will too. I have no choice.
I have no dog in that fight. I don't know
if I've ever played a video game. I'm like ah,
if I can just get better graphics. Best of the weekend,
Uh got to go out on the new on the
Harley with my lady and good friends. Worst thing about

(43:34):
the weekend we had to clean up the yard from
getting hit by a hurricane. I'm gonna assume that's not here. No,
not many hurricanes here, No. No. Best got to record
a crazzy hardcore slam show in Oklahoma City Saturday. First set,
I gave someone my camera, punched the vocalist and stole
the mic. Some kid messed me up when he tried

(43:56):
to grab the mic too. Still won hard af though
vocalists tried to punch him for the mic. Worst gave
the guy a headboard and throw pillows another chance. But
he clearly has commitment issues, so that texture. You might
remember they text They were on a they had a
hookup and the guy had throw pillows, and she was like,

(44:20):
we're assuming it's a she. We know it's a she, actually,
but it's weird. You went back. You're like, I mean,
maybe he was just having a bad day with the
throw pillows. Rember, the throw pillows were one off. If
I get rid of the throw pillows, will you give
me another chance show up, there's still throw pillows and
you're like, well, I'm here, one job, get rid of

(44:45):
the throw pillows. I have been very lucky to go
to a lot of shows. I have never punched a
vocalist at a show, had anybody of any of the
band members? Oh no, that's a good qu question. No,
I've never punched a band member at a show. Okay, Lindsay, No, never,

(45:05):
not even once, not.

Speaker 7 (45:06):
Even no, no, not even someone in the.

Speaker 1 (45:10):
Crowd did Well, we'll get to that. Did you ever
like even like pull your hand back towards a band
member like I'm gonna slap you.

Speaker 7 (45:18):
No?

Speaker 1 (45:18):
No, okay, Kim pi Uh there was this one. No, no,
never have no, no vocalists, no, none of the band
members at all, whatsoever. Usually because I'm in the crowd
and they're up on the stage. But ye yeah yeah
no at a at a fan or something. I have
done that, Yes, yeah, I never had to. No, There's

(45:39):
been times that I've wanted to, yeah, but never have.
Yeah it was drunk Corbyn, but yeah that makes sense.
Not really. How about you, Lindsay, fan ever hit a
fan like another attendee?

Speaker 7 (45:52):
Nope? I think maybe I've high five.

Speaker 1 (45:55):
To a fan in the face. No, okay, anything island, Nope, okay,
it feels a computer answer. Best, got to play golf
with my dad and see him hit two of the
best shots of his life. Worst, my fiance got sick
with the stomach flu. That brought our weekend to a
screeching halt. Well, it brought her weekend to a screeching halt. Best,

(46:19):
my daughter won a contest and got her photo taken
with the mayor. Worst, I missed out on a big
job and still had to pay my helper. Dude, the
idea that your kid had to get what A like.
That's one of the things I love about cartoon cartoons.
When they do something like with the mayor, it's always
this like super prestigious thing. And I don't know what

(46:41):
age it changes where it's not so cool to hang
out the man. I mean, you're like, it's fine, but
to you know, it's not a it's not a straight
line between mayor, governor president. It's cool, like, yeah, this
person's in charge of the city.

Speaker 8 (46:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (46:57):
It wasn't until I was older they realized not all
mayors the same. The responsibility of the just because you
have the title of the mayor doesn't mean you're a mayor.
No cities. There's some cities where the council makes all
the decisions or whatever. City man ejama, Yes, and the
mayor is just like a talking head pretty much. I'm
here for looks.

Speaker 7 (47:14):
Yeah, while you're up there with getting your photo taken,
ask them to do something about those potholes on Main Streeter.

Speaker 1 (47:22):
Uh, all right, we gotta take a break. We're gonna
give away some tickets and we'll be back.

Speaker 10 (47:27):
The Big Med Morning Show returns next Tulsa's.

Speaker 2 (47:31):
Morning Show ninety km o D.

Speaker 1 (47:45):
Good morning, It's the Big Mad Morning Show. Nine four
six oh k M O D. You can also text
BMMS and then what you want to say to eight
two nine four five. Let's play a game. We got
tickets to get away. I made a mistake. It's not
corn you're getting tickets to. You're actually gonna get tickets
to seven Dust. Seven Dust is gonna be at the

(48:07):
Canes Ballroom on October fourth, and you're gonna get a
pair of tickets to the thunder in Action at the
Bok Center on October tenth. So two pairs of tickets.
We're actually gonna play a new game. This game is
called flick off Nice, and the way it works is,
I'm gonna give you three separate movie quotes. You gotta

(48:28):
tell me which one goes with, or you gotta tell
me the appropriate movie. You can only miss one. You
gotta get two right, So you get one, you got
you got a chance here, Okay, first time we're playing
this probably not gonna work. We'll see. So let's go
to the phones and see who we've got here. Good morning,
you're on the air. What is your name, baby David?

(48:48):
How are you today?

Speaker 2 (48:50):
Good man?

Speaker 12 (48:50):
How you doing?

Speaker 1 (48:51):
Good? Buddy David. I'm gonna give you a movie quote,
and then you tell me the movie it goes with.
If you get at least two right, you're gonna win
tickets to not just see seven Dusts, but also to
see the Thunder. Okay, okay, all right, make sure your
radios turned down for me. Okay, uh and uh, So
you get you get three chances to get two right.

(49:12):
Here is your first one. These should be easy, okay, David,
all right, first one, the movie quote is phone home
et et easy right, boom. You got one done. You
just need one more to win the tickets to see
seven dust and tickets to see the thunder when they
come to town with to be Okay, senter second one,

(49:34):
show me the money, Jerry macguar boom. That's how easy
the game is. Man, Congratulations, you're getting those tickets. See
you want to do the third one just in case.
I made them deliberately easy for the first one. There
is no place like home.

Speaker 4 (49:54):
Wizard of Oz.

Speaker 1 (49:56):
You're like a movie savant. David. Congratulations, man, you're getting
those tickets. Hang on the line. Okay, good job. Well,
clearly next time I need to make it dramatically harder.
Yeah right, I thought it was. You know, et is
got it is like what forty years old? Yeah, yeah,

(50:17):
there are people that haven't seen that movie, and hell,
Wizard of Oz damn near a hundred. Yeah. I don't
know if there's people who haven't seen that movie. There's
absolutely people who have that so yeah yeah, yeah, people
who are being born today, maybe the ones that were
born just yesterday. What I feel like Wizard of Oz Like,

(50:38):
if you're over the age of six, I think you've
probably seen that movie. Same way with Et and I
blame it on the parents. I had to watch this
movie when I was a Kidcher gonna love it. I
watched The Penguin because Gimpi said it was really good. Yeah,
which think. I mean it's gonna get the three challenge right.

(51:00):
But first, the first episode's pretty good. It is. It's
more mafioso than it is The Penguin, oh for sure,
for sure. But of course everything's building, and I think
that's where this second I haven't watched the second episode yet.
I think it just ran yesterday. Okay, so I haven't
watched it yet, but I think that's where he starts
to turn. You know, it is total mafioso sort of thing.

(51:20):
But then he's like, I'm taking the sum bitch over.
The way he walks is a little dumb, Yeah, I mean, well,
did you see what was up with his foot? Yeah,
and that's why he walks the way that he walks.
And I guess that maybe that's why they end up
calling him the penguin anyway, like a penguin, sure, but
that foot scene was gnarly. Man. I'm like, we talked
about this last week. I put a big toe in

(51:41):
my mouth. I got no problem, but not that one.
And then you look at that thing. Can we just
keep that foot over there for now let's just separate
these legs. And I'm more of a left just stays
over there, and I don't want to have to look
at And it looks like it smells too, like all

(52:03):
feet smell. Yeah right, but that one's a little extra pungent. Yeah,
it was, it was. It was not but a good series.
I'm glad that you checked it out. Yeah, I'm excited
to get into it. One episode in, I I'm there
for it and I agree with you, Dan, and I
watched Agatha all after what is it from a Disney Plus?

(52:25):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah with the lady next door? Whatever
about the lady next Yeah yeah, and it's fine for
all along. Yes, it's fine so far. I'm not in
love with it like the other one where she comes
from the storyline. You you weren't sure what was happening,
but it was really compelling. This is a little rough, okay, okay,
but it's gonna get the three too. I'll watch Challenge.

(52:47):
I don't have Disney Plus, so I uh, I'm just
gonna take your word for that one. Yeah, all right,
we're gonna take a break and we'll be back.

Speaker 10 (52:55):
You're listening to the Big Man Morning Show. This Tulsa's
show ninety.

Speaker 1 (53:02):
Cable to Good Morning, It's the big Man Morning Show
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(53:23):
say to eight two nine four five. See what Ghimpi
has in his four x four Well Cobnu says here
the button says he wouldn't intervene in a duck workers strike.
While speaking to reporters, he said that he doesn't believe
in the tapped Hartley Act, a law that would allow

(53:44):
him to delay a strike with a court order. Thousands
of longshoremen are set to strike this week a midstalled
labor contract talks with the US Maritime Alliance. A strike
would likely disrupt commercial trade on a massive scale and
seriously impact the US economy. With just over a month
remaining until the presidential election, How am I gonna get

(54:07):
my TIMU order right? No, in all seriousness, this is
a big deal. Yeah, forty six thousand workers over like
thirty ports that could be closed. Yeah, billions of dollars
a day. Food will be affected, All kinds of stuff
be affected by this. And do it. Engaging in the
TAFT Act is not. You don't just go You don't
go I'm gonna do it. I I will because people

(54:30):
get aloint. It's a little overreach. Yeah, we'll see what happens.
Climate change caused the Hallene devastation. The head of the
Federal Emergency Management Agency, or FEMA, says that climate change
is part of the reason that Hurricane Haleen has been
so devastating, leaving an estimated ninety dead in its wake.

(54:52):
In an interview, u FEMA administrator Dianne Kriswell said the
climate change is causing warmer ocean water, which in turn
is contributing to the formation of storms. She went on
to say that with warmer water comes stronger storms that
are able to develop and intensify more quickly. As she said,

(55:13):
this is leading to higher storm surge and increased rainfall,
which raises the risk of severe flooding and water damage.
Some of the video that I've seen on the TikTok
is pretty rough, pretty rough over there in the hurricane area. Yeah,
this morning I saw in the news that the amount
of rain they got because of that hurricane is could

(55:36):
fill Lake Michigan nine times. Damn. That's a lot of water. Yeah,
that's a lot of water. Toyota recalls certain SUV models
over potential safety issues. Toyota is recalling fifty thousand vehicles
over possible safety issues and some of the newer models.
The recall was announced on Friday and is only for
the twenty twenty three twenty four Corolla Cross Hybrid vehicle.

(56:00):
Toyota said the issue could cause some Coroll Across hybrid
vehicles to break suddenly in some cases. And then lastly,
here Broken Arrow Mounted Patrol Unit helps Muscogee Nation Lighthorse
Police Department launch their own unit. The Broken Arrow Mounted
Police Mounted Patrol Unit will be hosting a forty hour
certification course to help the Muscogee Nation Lighthorse Police Department

(56:24):
launch their own mounted patrol. The class consists of two
BAPD officers and six Lighthorse Police officers. They'll be taught
by two instructors with the Broken Aroo Police Department. Both
officers and their horses will receive training revolving around formations
O obstacle desensitization, custody and control, and then crowd control

(56:44):
and US courts. The Broken Arrow Mounted Patrol Unit had
has thirteen certified mounted officers and was established in twenty
twenty two. I didn't know that they had a mounted units.
You gotta have a mounted unit. You have to. When
you start hosting big events having horses, people get like it.

(57:08):
It's a presence that makes a huge difference. And like
when you're let's just use Rocklahoma for example. You know,
you take a police cruiser into that crowd, you know,
I mean it's hard to navigate through the people. Oh yeah,
well how about this. You see an officer on a
bicycle right, riding through an event or trying to control
a crowd, you don't think twice of kind of a horse.

(57:29):
Go online and watch horses like police, mounted police, watch
them move crowds. It's awesome. Well yeah, the horses are huge. Yeah,
you can't move a horse bicycles just to move right.
You can throw the bicycle. Try and throw a horse,
yeah right, ain't gonna happen. Anytime I see a mounted

(57:50):
police unit, I always think of a half big hungry
fellows perfectly. Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 7 (58:12):
Du Bears bounced back with a twenty four to eighteen
win over the Rams at Soldier Field. Caleb Williams completed
seventeen of his twenty three pass attempts for one hundred
and fifty seven yards. DeAndre Swift led the team in
rushing with ninety three yards on sixteen carries. Him and
Rushawn Johnson both found the end zone on the ground once.

(58:35):
Swift also led the team with seven catches for seventy
two yards. DJ Moore caught three passes for twenty two
yards in a score. Chicago is now two and two.
Matthew Stafford completed twenty of twenty nine for two hundred
and twenty four yards and in interception. Kyron Williams led
the Rams with ninety four rushing yards on nineteen carries,
including a three yard touchdown run. Jordan Whittington led the

(58:59):
team with six catches, and you two at well recorded
a game high eighty two receiving yards. Los Angeles is
now one in three. Patrick Mahomes and the Chiefs.

Speaker 1 (59:09):
Who was there one victory over the Rams? Lindsay, the Rams? Yeah,
who was there one victory over the oh the forty
nine ers? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it was we were
like three people down that. Oh here comes there's the
rest fault. Yeah.

Speaker 7 (59:26):
Resche Mahomes and the Chiefs Rallied for an AFC West
win on the road to remain unbeaten. Kansas City down
Justin Herbert and the Los Angeles Chargers seventeen to ten
at SOFI Stadium. Mahomes completed nineteen of twenty nine passes
for two hundred and forty five yards, one touchdown and
an interception, while Travis Kelcey turned in his best performance

(59:49):
of the season with seven catches for eighty nine yards.
Xavier Worthy scored on a fifty four yard a catch
in the second quarter, and Samajh Yes they thank you
uh found the end zone for the go ahead touchdown
with just over six minutes remaining. The Chiefs are atop
the division at four to o. Herbert was sixteen of
twenty seven for one hundred and seventy nine yards and

(01:00:11):
a touchdown in the losing efforts. Rookie wide out Lad
mcconkee had a team high sixty seven receiving yards and
a touchdown on five receptions. The Chargers have lost back
to back games to slip to two and two.

Speaker 1 (01:00:26):
It is the of three of the four quarterbacks that
the Chiefs have played so far the season have ended
up smashing their helmets in frustration. That's pretty interesting if
you think about that like that three of the four
have gotten so mad, they smash their helmets. Yeah, I
don't know if the Chiefs are going to be able
to pull it out. Yesterday, the first half they played

(01:00:48):
lot Oh my goarbage. It was hot garbage. It was
so bad. Yeah, they looked they did not I don't disagree,
but you got to think they are four to oh
against not not mail ins. Those aren't male and wins.
And they played like hot garbage almost all those games.
What does that say They can play like hot garbage

(01:01:10):
and still win? Are they that good that that they're
hot garbage? Is that good? And then not to mention
the injuries, right, and they had a massive injury yesterday.
Matt dude, he's done. His season's over. He probably won't
be at the level in the NFL ever. Again, the
story about Rashid Rice is that they think it is

(01:01:32):
an a C L M C L and collateral legaments
on both sides. That's massive knee damage. A year. They're
saying he'll be out. You don't develop the same you
don't go back to the same speed, you don't go
back to the same abilities. Look at Aaron Rodgers, Yeah,
look at him. He had a horrible game yesterday. That
was yesterday. I'm just saying, yeah, that is that was

(01:01:57):
wah aisled wild for sure.

Speaker 7 (01:02:00):
And the forty nine ers put an end to their
two game losing streak with a thirty to thirteen win
over the Patriots in Santa Clara. Brought Purty through for
eighty eight yards, one touchdown and an interception for the Niners,
who even to their record at two and two. Jordan
Mason rushed for one hundred and twenty three yards in
a touchdown to go with thirty seven receiving yards. George Kittle,

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returned from injury, posted four catches for forty five yards
in a score in the victory. Jacoby Brissette was nineteen
of thirty two for just one hundred and sixty eight yards,
one touchdown and two turnovers for New England, which fell
to one in three. Austin Hooper had the lone touchdown catch,
while Ramandre Stevenson rushed for just forty three yards and

(01:02:44):
also lost a fumble. The Patriots had just two hundred
and sixteen total yards of offense in the setback. Yeah,
but hey, it wins win. Can we go those are
our three games? Can we go over our Okay? And
that is your balls to the Wall Sports. I'm Lindsay
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All right doing Our listeners are awesome. We like to
chat with our listeners. They share part of their life
with us. On the line right now is Cam, Hi, Cam,
how are you?

Speaker 4 (01:03:59):
I'm doing good? Man?

Speaker 1 (01:04:00):
How you doing good? Cam? And says here you've been
married for two years? How'd you meet your wife?

Speaker 4 (01:04:05):
Oh man? We actually have been friends for about fifteen
years or so, and when I got to prison and
started doing good we decided to try it out. And
here we are.

Speaker 1 (01:04:18):
How old were you when you went to prison?

Speaker 4 (01:04:21):
I was twenty four at the time.

Speaker 1 (01:04:24):
Yeah, twenty four. And what did you do that sent
you to prison?

Speaker 3 (01:04:28):
Uh?

Speaker 4 (01:04:29):
Man, drugs was the main thing, but you know, really
just drugs and everything that comes along with it, if
we're being honest.

Speaker 1 (01:04:40):
What was the incident that got you caught that sent
you to prison? Man?

Speaker 4 (01:04:46):
Actually, I got pulled over at the hard Rock for
not wearing a seat belt, and one thing led into another.
I ran, they caught me, hates me, all that good stuff,
and then I warrant out of other counties and so

(01:05:07):
I knew I was going. And Uh, if you've ever
been in trouble in Rogers County, you know that's a
one and done thing there. So that was it.

Speaker 1 (01:05:15):
So you get you aren't wearing your seat belt, which
sounds stupid, but for you probably maybe saved your life, right,
Like you not wearing your seat belt that day ironically
saved your life because it straightened your life.

Speaker 4 (01:05:29):
Out absolutely absolutely. Man, I was I was not a
very bad path. Uh and uh, I honestly believe had
I not gotten rested that night, I would have probably
been dead within six months.

Speaker 1 (01:05:45):
Wow do you so? Do you reflect on that day
and getting arrested and running a lot?

Speaker 12 (01:05:51):
Uh?

Speaker 4 (01:05:51):
Yeah, Yeah, that was the first time i'd ever i'd
ever gotten caught, you know, with any kind of drugs
or anything like that. And uh, yeah, man, I just
uh I look back on a lot, you know, and
I'm just like I I'm glad I turned my life
around and decided to not go back down that path.

Speaker 1 (01:06:14):
You know. Does that life still haunt you?

Speaker 4 (01:06:18):
Oh no, no, I'm uh uh it haunts It haunts
my family some, you know, because I have some family
members that are you know, in and out of prison
and you know, on drugs and things like that. But uh,
I try to be a positive influence, you know, and people.

(01:06:38):
I've told a lot of people my story, you know,
and uh some people have said it's a very inspirational,
you know, very inspirational story. And so yeah, man, I
look back at it as a learning lesson, you know,
every time. I've never uh you know, I went to

(01:07:00):
prison and I got clean about a year before I
got out, you know, and have been on that straight
and narrow path. I mean ever since I got out.
I got a job, I've kept the same job, you know,
I got married, you know, I have my kids, you know,

(01:07:22):
So yeah, it's it was definitely a learning experience.

Speaker 1 (01:07:27):
It says here that you got kicked in the head
and sent to the hospital. How old were you when
that happened.

Speaker 4 (01:07:34):
I was not very far past in twenty one, probably
a few months. I was twenty one. Yeah, for probably
a few months. I was at a bar in Mainford,
that's where I live. Was drinking with this old man
friend of mine. We were highly intoxicated. I'm not exactly

(01:07:56):
sure what happened, but in a couple of younger guys
they come over and they they were screwing with him,
you know, and so I went over. I was like, hey, man,
you know he's the old man, you know, back off whatever.
I thought, everything was cool, you know. I bottom of
the beer. About an hour later, then the old man

(01:08:16):
leave and I had looked around for those two guys,
didn't see him. So I'm like, okay, well, you know,
they're probably already gone, walked outside. I got blindsided. One
of them punched me. Like I said, I was very
intoxicated when he punched me, knocked me down, and then

(01:08:38):
the other one proceeded to kick the crap out of me,
kicked me in the back of the head a few
times and kicked me in the mouth, broke one of
my teeth off with the gum line in the back.
He cracked the other one all the way up. Of course,
I was unconscious for this whole thing. Woke up like

(01:09:02):
eighteen hours later in the hospital.

Speaker 12 (01:09:04):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (01:09:05):
They told me that, Uh, I had a very bad
contusion on the back of my head. You know, I
had a big old goose egg back there. Uh, and
I had broken my tooth. I woke up in a
hospital gown. They had to cut all my clothes up
of me in the bar parking lot, you know, so

(01:09:26):
I'm sure that was embarrassing.

Speaker 1 (01:09:28):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (01:09:30):
But yeah, after that, Uh, it was probably like two
weeks you know, had gone by. Was was going to
get into the shower one day at my cousin's house,
you know, I was living with them, and uh, I
just felt really weird. So I went into the kitchen

(01:09:51):
to splash some cold water on my face, and uh,
like I could see myself turning the water on, but
my whole body just kind of went numb and then
out I went. Uh. I woke up with people that
were with the ambulance and went over the top of me.

(01:10:11):
All that stuff. Went back. From the hospital, they told
me I had a seizure. Uh. So they put me
on this on this medicine. Uh it did not agree
with my body. I don't remember what it was called.
Uh So I had to go back to the hospital
again after another in uh another situation I had, uh

(01:10:35):
and then they put me on in Kepra and that
was cool for a while. And then after after that
I wound up going to the uh neurologists down in
South Tulsa. They did an ee G on my head,
told me I had a blood clot in the back
of my head and that uh I was epileptics. So

(01:11:00):
there was that.

Speaker 1 (01:11:02):
Okay, hold hold on, that's hold on, hold on because
that is it is a lot man. Yeah, and so
all from just getting in a fight with some people
unknowingly at a bar at such a young age. And
did you like, did the police get involved?

Speaker 4 (01:11:20):
No, No, I never talked to a police officer. I
was told that they were there, but like I said,
I was unconscious. And the two guys who did it,
the only information I ever got was that they drove
a red truck and uh yeah, that was it.

Speaker 1 (01:11:37):
Wow, So you are telling me that this event happened
and there were two guys that almost killed you and
they just know. Nobody ever found them. You don't know
who they are. They're just still running around. Two people
that just kicked the crap out of you, and and
they're just still walking around.

Speaker 4 (01:11:55):
That's it.

Speaker 1 (01:11:57):
Wow, that's a lot, man, just that moment, just that thought.

Speaker 4 (01:12:00):
I never even yeah, I never even spoke to a
police officer about this situation. Nobody ever came and talked
to me about anything. Nobody ever asked me you know
what happened? You know, do you know who it was?
I don't even think there was a police report ever filed.

Speaker 1 (01:12:19):
Since this happened in the town that you live in,
do you find yourself kind of looking for these two
sketchy people that might have kicked you in the back
of the head.

Speaker 4 (01:12:28):
No, so, my cousin, man, he has, he's he told
me a few years back that he found out who
one of the guys was and he spoke with him,
you know, blah blah blah, and you know, it's went
that route. But it's never gone any further than that.

(01:12:50):
You know, I haven't really gone out of my way
to find them. It's been so long ago, you know, Uh,
you know, it's one of those things I just kind
of let bygones be bygones, you know, and you know,
sometimes bad things happened to get people. I guess, you know,
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:13:09):
Okay, So then you you're in the hospital for how
long were you in the hospital the.

Speaker 4 (01:13:14):
First time, like eighteen hours?

Speaker 1 (01:13:19):
Okay, so about a day or so. Yeah, and then
you go you're trying to get back to normal and
you have a seizure, wake up in the hospital again.
To wake up in the hospital again had to have
been a scary situation, like am I having a dream?
Why am I back here?

Speaker 10 (01:13:34):
No?

Speaker 4 (01:13:34):
I didn't wake up in the hospital again. I went
out in my cousin's kitchen, and when I woke up,
I was still in the kitchen, but the ambulance was there.
They already had me on a gurney, you know, blah
blah blah, and I didn't know what had happened, you
know what I mean. That's when they took me to
the hospital for having my very first seizure from the accident.

Speaker 1 (01:13:58):
Yeah, and so then you find out that, uh do
you get some tests and neurological testing done and they
find out that you have a blood clot So what
do they do? Do They go in and cut the
blood clot out or what do they do?

Speaker 4 (01:14:10):
No, so they wanted to put me on education. Uh
mind you this entire time, I was on sooner care
to the state because I, like I when I had applied,
I didn't have a job. I wasn't working, and so
they gave it to me because I wasn't working. Well,

(01:14:32):
then I had a job. So, like probably two weeks
after I had this testing done in South Tulsa, I
get a letter saying that my insurance had been canceled,
Like the state had canceled all of my insurance. So
all of the like, the whole plan that they had

(01:14:56):
come up with was just nolan volloided that much pretty
much because I didn't have insurance anymore and brain doctors
are expensive.

Speaker 1 (01:15:08):
Yeah, so they had just planned for you. But then
they realized you don't have any insurance insurance, and they're like, sorry,
we can't help you now.

Speaker 4 (01:15:15):
Yeah, yes, pretty much. They had given me a prescription
for the KEPRA and I was on that. I went
to a couple of free clinics with all my paperwork,
you know, and they had renewed that prescription in a
couple of times, and then I got into the other stuff,

(01:15:36):
you know, I got into drug.

Speaker 1 (01:15:37):
Right to follow out yourself? Do you find out why
they canceled the insurance.

Speaker 4 (01:15:44):
Because I had a job and I made too much money?

Speaker 1 (01:15:48):
And was that true?

Speaker 4 (01:15:51):
I didn't. So I believe their cap now is like,
is like twenty two hundred a month or what ever.
I'm not sure what it was then, but I think
I was like, and that's before taxes, you know what
I'm saying. I was just barely over the cap and

(01:16:14):
they would have never said anything, honestly, I believe. But
they started getting all these bills from the hospital, all
these ambulance rides, you know what I'm saying. They got
a bill from a neurologist. You know, they're like, oh, okay,
hang on, what's going on here? And then when they
did the research into me, and then they found out, well,

(01:16:34):
this guy's got a job, you know, blah blah blah.
So yeah, they exed it out.

Speaker 1 (01:16:39):
So what'd you do? Did you get on another insurance?
Did you trying to get on your work insurance? No?

Speaker 4 (01:16:44):
I went down That's when I started going down that
wrong path and I stopped taking the edication that they
gave me. I started, you know, on drugs, and you
know all of this, that and the other. When I
got arrested and went to prison is whenever I started
taking these Caesar meds again. Yeah, because the Department of Corrections,

(01:17:11):
your medical is all free.

Speaker 1 (01:17:12):
So what was the drugs that you used to deal
with your seizures when you went down the wrong path?

Speaker 4 (01:17:19):
Math Meth was pretty much go to for everything for me.
I started, man, I started the worst way that you
could ever do drugs, and that was the first way
I did it. That was the only way I ever
did it.

Speaker 1 (01:17:38):
Man.

Speaker 4 (01:17:38):
And yeah, I'm six foot four, twenty pounds. The day
I got arrested, I was one hundred and forty pounds.

Speaker 1 (01:17:48):
I'm guessing you're saying you shot it up.

Speaker 4 (01:17:50):
Yes, yes, sir.

Speaker 1 (01:17:53):
Yeah, And so you go to prison. How long are
you in prison? What's that like?

Speaker 4 (01:18:01):
Five years to the day today. No, No, I was
in there exactly for five years. I got arrested January
thirty first, got released February first, five years later.

Speaker 1 (01:18:16):
And what was it like? How was adapting while you
were in there?

Speaker 4 (01:18:20):
I mean it sucked. It's state prison, you know, the
I mean, people hear stories, you know, it's a it's
a whole other level in there. You know, drugs are
easier to come by in prison than they are on
the streets. There's fights all the time. You know, it

(01:18:44):
gets it gets pretty wild in there. But like I said,
I I decided to give up all of the drugs
and affiliations with everything. You know, about a year before
I got out. I got out, they I still had

(01:19:06):
some seizure meds left over. I had several seizures while
I was incarcerated. UH the the worst one I had
and put me in the hospital. It was a pretty
bad one. They called my family and everything else because
they had uh had had to take me to the hospital.
I was actually on a top bunk and uh uh

(01:19:30):
I was in an overflow in the county uh doc
overflow in twenty and seventeen, and UH, I had a
seizure on the top bunk, fell off the top bunk, landed,
My face hit the metal bench that was coming out
of the wall on the way down. UH split my

(01:19:53):
lip all the way down, busted my nose, had to
have some stitches. Yeah, it was a bad deal, A
bad deal.

Speaker 1 (01:20:00):
Yeah, you had mentioned you said about a year before
you out got out, you ended all your affiliations and stuff.
Did you have to did you feel like you had
to join an affiliation just to survive while you're in there.

Speaker 4 (01:20:11):
I mean it kind of depends on what yard you
go to. At the end of the day. You don't
want to be the guy who sits the table, you mean,
all by hisself, you know. Uh you you know, because
there's something goes down, you don't wanna you don't wanna
be a loner, you know what I'm saying. I never

(01:20:33):
really was affiliated like that, you know what I'm saying,
Like I was just a good old boy that everybody
messed with, you know. Uh. But uh, like as far
as like if you go all out, you know, and

(01:20:54):
you get all your affiliation tattoos and blah blah blah,
you know, and this, that and the other, it's a
wild life in there, right. I mean, there's a there's
a good possibility that you're going to add on more
time to what you're already doing. And at the end
of the day, my mindset was like, look, this is
only temporary. I just need to survive while I'm here,

(01:21:17):
you know what I'm saying. And so once I knew
I was on the downhill stretch. I mean it was
you know, it was over with.

Speaker 1 (01:21:27):
Did you have to do anything in prison that you're
not proud of?

Speaker 4 (01:21:33):
I mean, who doesn't you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (01:21:37):
I don't know. That's why I'm asking. I. Well, you
know what I'm saying. We've never got to ask anybody
in prison this question. Nobody's ever brought up being in
like affiliations or anything. So I feel like you've opened
the door for me to ask this question. You don't
have to answer it, man, I'm just saying that, like
I would imagine when you're trying to make decisions, like
for a temporary situation, that there's a chance you may,

(01:22:00):
especially if you're trying to have an affiliation, you may
have to do some things to show your loyalty.

Speaker 4 (01:22:04):
Yes, my loyalty lending me eight months in the shoe?

Speaker 1 (01:22:12):
What's the shoe?

Speaker 4 (01:22:14):
This shoe is twenty three and one lockdown. You were
in a cell by yourself, like eight by eight cell
for twenty three hours a day. They let you out
for an hour a day to go into a probably
ten by ten chain links cell that's outside, and then
you go back in your cell. It's the segregated housing

(01:22:35):
unit or that's where you go if you get.

Speaker 1 (01:22:37):
In trouble because of what you did, they put you there,
or yes, eight months and you did that just to
try and survive.

Speaker 4 (01:22:46):
Just to have a good name for myself and not
be known as a woos.

Speaker 1 (01:22:51):
You know what I'm saying, what'd you do?

Speaker 4 (01:22:55):
I beat up a child unlesser And yeah, I mean
it wasn't a big deal to us, but they protect
them hardcore in the Department of Corrections. So yeah, yeah,
the warden didn't like it and wanted to make an
example of me.

Speaker 1 (01:23:15):
How do you get that order?

Speaker 4 (01:23:20):
So I actually I didn't even know that he was
one said, I'd only been on this yard for like
three days and he was my sally, and nobody told
me for three whole days. Actually, a guy from another
car so to speak, uh come up and told me.

(01:23:42):
It was like, hey, man, I don't know if you
know this, but you're you're you're Shelley is a you know,
is a child molester. And I was like, oh, yeah, no,
we can't have that. So I went to I went
to my people and they're like, yeah, well you have
to do something about that, and yeah, So I did
what I did, and uh, yeah, it's lending me eight

(01:24:06):
months in the shoe.

Speaker 1 (01:24:07):
And there's no vetting to that. Like you get that
order and you're like.

Speaker 4 (01:24:11):
Okay, yeah, yeah, there's no time to think about it.
There's no time to ah, well, you know what if
I get in trouble, like it's it's on site, you know,
I mean it's it's green light gough.

Speaker 1 (01:24:27):
Yeah. Do you find yourself sitting out of red light
or waiting for your next job, or waiting for your
food and think about some of that stuff?

Speaker 4 (01:24:37):
Oh yeah, all the time.

Speaker 1 (01:24:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:24:39):
I would imagine it keeps me humble. It keeps me
humble man, for sure.

Speaker 1 (01:24:43):
Right, if you're getting tended by something, it probably sobers
you up pretty quickly.

Speaker 4 (01:24:47):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely. Man. I've gotten out. Uh see,
I've been out going on four years now. I mean
I've completely turned my life for around eye coach baseball now,
you know. Yeah, all that stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:25:06):
You know.

Speaker 4 (01:25:06):
I try to be a good member of my community. Yeah,
all that stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:25:14):
Right. It sounds like you're trying to be the reason
why we give people second chances.

Speaker 4 (01:25:18):
I am not the so In the state of Oklahoma,
it is they've proven fact that ninety percent of inmates
that are released are back within a year, and I
was not going to be that stipulation.

Speaker 1 (01:25:30):
Right, I can't. It's probably hard. I imagine it's hard
some days, man, but it sounds like you're fighting a
good fight, and I am good. Good on you for
getting it, getting it figured out in your head. I'm
sure there's temptation every day. We didn't get to talk
about all the stuff we wanted to talk about, man,
but I appreciate you taking the time and being honest
with us, and and good luck with everything.

Speaker 11 (01:25:49):
Cam.

Speaker 1 (01:25:50):
It was. It was a great conversation, man.

Speaker 4 (01:25:52):
I appreciate you guys.

Speaker 1 (01:25:53):
All Right, buddy, see you later. That's Cam. Our listeners
are awesome. We got to take a break. We'll be back.

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those ones that you kind of forget about, you know
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I'd have to say, you know, when when you've got
the likes of Johnny Cash and and Waylon Jennings and
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lot of acting, more and more acting, I think than
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(01:27:46):
he just was the guy in the corner, just questioning things.
Don't say nothing to him. Yeah, keep on keeping on.
With that being said, tomorrow is Jimmy Carter's hundredth birthday.
Damn Jimmy.

Speaker 7 (01:28:00):
Did anyone have Maggie Smith on their list?

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Maggie Smith, the actress from Harry Potter and stuff. No? Uh,
the you have Robert Wagner, King, Charles mel Brooks, and
Tom Brokaw. For the record, mel Brooks is ninety seven,
so nine years older than Chris Christofferson can be as Ozzy.
You got Toby Keith Points, He's got John Aston uh

(01:28:26):
and Barbara Eden. Wait, John Ashton or John Aston Aston
the original Gomez? Why?

Speaker 7 (01:28:35):
Okay? Well, because John Ashton from Beverly Hills Cop died Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:28:46):
Uh yeah he was the bald headed cop. N had
that out of the top of your head, though. Well.

Speaker 7 (01:28:55):
I read an article of the celebrities that go in
threes with Chris Christofferson, John Ashton and John.

Speaker 1 (01:29:03):
Went to John Ashton Thursday the twenty six Yeah, so
I guess he kind of started it, but I didn't
know that. I saw the name for the Harry Potter Lady.
I was like, who who's this? Okay, uh Lin's Lindsay's
wildcard is Amanda Bindes, Gimpy's wild card is Jack Black.

(01:29:24):
I have Jimmy Carter, I got Bob Newhart, points, Doc Severnson,
David Attenborough. And by the way, Bob Newhart was the
youngest of the group that I have at ninety four, right.
My others are ninety nine, ninety six, and ninety eight,

(01:29:45):
and they all holding on. I tried to play the
numbers game this time, and man, it ain't playing. It
ain't paying out. Man. I've already started my list for
next year. Oh yeah, you got to yeah, yeah, because
I've seen a few that I'm like, I'm gonna go
ahead and put him on a list now, you know,

(01:30:05):
in case it does hold out. Uh man, maybe next
year I can give more than just one one round
of points. Yeah right.

Speaker 7 (01:30:13):
I saw recently that Dick van Dyke had he canceled
an appearance at some the Emmys. Emmys.

Speaker 1 (01:30:22):
Was that was the Emmys?

Speaker 7 (01:30:23):
Okay?

Speaker 1 (01:30:24):
Yeah, because he's old, Yeah, he's real how old? He's
like ninety eight as well? I was gonna say ninety seven.

Speaker 7 (01:30:33):
Yeah, maybe ninety somewhere in.

Speaker 1 (01:30:35):
There, ninety eight years old. Yeah, still trying to yuck
it up though, Yeah, oh absolutely still trying to yuck
it up. And then his girlfriend like sixty something or
I believe, So I'm like it. I know she's like
way younger, but I say that, you're like, sixty something

(01:30:56):
is way younger, but it is when you're ninety eight. Gosh,
if I'm ninety eight and my wife isn't around, like
she's done, you know, gone away or left me, like,
I hope I find a sixty something Arlene Silver, Arlene Silver. Oh, Arlene.

(01:31:16):
She was born in seventy one, so Corbyn, you're forty nine,
born in seventy five, so this makes her in her
mid fifties. Yeah, she's got to be like fifty four
fifty three. They're not banging, They're not banging all absolutely
are banging. Dude. Have you ever heard of sialis? Well, yeah,

(01:31:37):
I've overheard of it, and I've heard of it. I'm
just saying that, like, of course there's no reason they are.
I guess you're right.

Speaker 7 (01:31:43):
He was just on the Mask Singer last year, prancing
around on stage.

Speaker 1 (01:31:47):
I mean, I don't know, I didn't I don't watch
the mask singer. What was this costume?

Speaker 7 (01:31:53):
Lindsay, I don't know, but he was in costume with the.

Speaker 1 (01:31:57):
Costume is what you would remember. Like those costumes are
pretty elaborate, and for him to be in some crazy costume,
all right, it was a gnome, a gnome of all things.
All Right, we gotta take a break. Listen, Jeff is
in the other room, Jeff from Hinsley Associates. He's gonna
answer a question about divorce, custody, guardian, ship, name, change,

(01:32:19):
any of those things. He'll be in the studio with
us here shortly. So if you have a question about
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is to eight two nine four five. You can email
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when he's in the studio at nine.

Speaker 10 (01:32:33):
Tulsa's Morning Show continues next Jack the Big Mad Morning
Show on Telsa's Rock Stasia ninety seven five KMOT.

Speaker 1 (01:32:57):
Good Morning, It's the Big Mad Morning Show nine one.
Ekmod can also text bmms and then what you want
to say to eight two nine four five. On football
Picks from the Weekend, Lindsay and I both picked the
Bears over the Rams, as Gimpy picked the Rams, so
we got that one right, and then forty nine Ers

(01:33:18):
and Patriots played out exactly like we all thought it would,
with all of us getting points for the forty nine
Ers win and Chiefs Chargers. We all picked the Chiefs
and we got that one too. So for the week,
Lindsay went three and oh, Gimpy went two and one.
I went three and oh, And overall record is Lindsey
and Gimpi are both at eight and four and I
am at seven and five. And I think this is

(01:33:40):
where we're getting to the season where uh, you can
think everything is good until injuries start happening, right, and
that whole thing changes when people are like, oh, this
is the team to beat or this is the ed
don't mean nothing until people when people start getting injured
a couple of key players, and your team is toast. Yeah,
for a lot of teams, that is true. So we'll

(01:34:03):
see what happens as we move forward that. Let's go
and see what Lindsay has for balls to the wall sports.

Speaker 7 (01:34:20):
So the Rams did crank out a big win of
over the forty nine Ers in a week three, but
now they're going to have to crank up with the checkbook.
The NFL has issued a one hundred thousand dollars fine
against the Rams after an inactive player shoved to Brandon
Ayuk after the final play of the game. Darius Kendrick,
the player on injured reserve who shoved Ayuk, was fined

(01:34:44):
six hundred and fifty six dollars for unsportsmanlike conduct, and
Cameron Kitchens was fined six hundred and fifty three dollars
for his involvement in the start of the incident. Play nice, guys,
it's a lot cheaper.

Speaker 1 (01:34:59):
I mean tensions, A lot of people get worked up
about this. I think that amount of a fine is
a little excessive. I think guys get worked up. The
motions are high. You're playing with a lot of energy,
a lot of testosterone, right, Sure, a little shoving and
pushing like that's just part of the game, especially like
when the sidelines. I don't think guys in street clothes
should be pushing people like we've seen happen a couple times.
The Chiefs have benefiters of that, so I'm okay with

(01:35:21):
that penalty. Happened, But when it's in the guys are
all dressed in pads, and all that like motions are high,
especially after play like, come on, nobody should be hitting
each other in the face type of thing.

Speaker 7 (01:35:32):
The Broncos came away with a ten to nine win
over the Jets at MetLife Stadium in Week four. Bon
Nicks toss his first career NFL touchdown after completing an
eight yard pass to Courtland Sutton. Nicks completed twelve of
his twenty five pass attempts for sixty yards on the day.
Javonte Williams led the Broncos in rushing with seventy seven
yards on sixteen carries. Denver's defense also combined for five sacks.

(01:35:55):
The Broncos are now two and two. Aaron Rodgers completed
twenty four or forty two for two hundred and twenty
five yards. He also added twenty six yards on the ground.
Mike Williams led Gangreen with sixty seven receiving yards on
four catches. Greg Zerlin provided all of the offense for
the Jets after nailing three of his four field goal attempts.

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New York is now two and two.

Speaker 1 (01:36:18):
Don't sleep on the Broncos defense. They are yoking some
people up. Man. Watch go listen to the press conference
of Aaron Rodgers basically throwing his coach under the bus,
which shouldn't be a shock. Their defense is pretty good.
And listen to this stat about bow Nicks. Bo's sixty

(01:36:38):
passing yards versus the Jets is the least this millennium
for a quarterback who won with twenty five plus attempts.
There have been ten thousand, seventy eight games where a
quarterback has thrown has had twenty five plus attempts since
two thousand. Bo Nix's sixty passing yards ranks ten thousand,
seventy seven. Damn hear the bottom crazy stat.

Speaker 7 (01:37:04):
And Aaron did he get hurt or did he not
get hurt? It looked like and then coach Sally was like,
I think it's just some wear and tear.

Speaker 1 (01:37:13):
I don't know.

Speaker 7 (01:37:16):
Derrick Henry and the Ravens crushed the Bills.

Speaker 1 (01:37:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:37:19):
In a battle between two premier EFC teams and Sunday
Night football, Baltimore defeated Buffalo thirty five to ten at
M and T Bank Stadium. King Henry broke open the
game with an eighty seven yard touchdown run less than
four minutes into the game and finished the contest with
two hundred and nine all purpose yards and two touchdowns.
Lamar Jackson completed thirteen of eighteen passes for one hundred

(01:37:41):
and fifty six yards and two touchdowns, while rushing for
fifty four yards and another score. Justice Hill made six
catches for seventy eight yards on a touchdown as the
Ravens improved a two and two. Josh Allen was sixteen
of twenty nine for one hundred and eighty yards in
the losing efforts. Ty Johnson scored the team's alone touchdown
on two yard run in the third quarter. The Bills

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offense was held to two hundred and thirty six total
yards as they fell to three and one.

Speaker 1 (01:38:06):
It was I don't know who that Bills team was.
They looked like a completely different team than their first
three games. They did some weird trick play where they
tried to toss it to Josh Allen and it looked like
they'd never ran the play before. Maybe not. They looked
they looked abysmal, like they did not look like a

(01:38:27):
three and zero team for sure.

Speaker 7 (01:38:30):
A young Wayku nailed a fifty eight yard field goal
to propel the Falcons past the Saints twenty six to
twenty four from Mercedes Benz Stadium. The longest kick of
his career came with just two seconds left after a
defensive pass interference was called. On Atlanta's final drive. Kirk
Cousins completed twenty one of thirty five passes for two
hundred and thirty eight yards to go with an interception

(01:38:52):
as the Dirty Birds moved a second in the NFC
South at two and two.

Speaker 1 (01:38:56):
Like that, that was like that.

Speaker 7 (01:38:58):
That was a good game. And Kamara scored on the
ground with just one minute left in regulation to give
New Orleans a temporary lead. Derek Carr through for two
hundred and thirty nine yards and a pick as the
Saints slipped to third in the division with the same record.
And finally, I have got a your Dallas Cowboys update

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will visit the Pittsburgh Steelers on Sunday Night Football at
Akroshare Stadium. NFL Network is reporting that Micah Parsons suffered
a high ankle sprain last week and Marcus Lawrence is
expected to miss at least four weeks with a mid
foot Sprain. The Cowboys are coming off a twenty to

(01:39:39):
fifteen win over the New York Giants on Thursday Night Football,
Deak Prescott completing sixty four point four percent of his
passes four thousand and seventy two yards, six touchdowns and
two picks. This season, the Cowboys are sitting second in
the NFC East at two and two. And if you
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Speaker 1 (01:40:59):
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Join us in the studio. Now is Jeff Hensley of
Hensley Associe. It's good morning, Jeff, Hey, good morning, and
Jeff is here to answer any family law question you have.
It doesn't matter if it's divorce, custody, guardianship, name change,

(01:41:20):
adult adoptions. That's a thing, adult guardianships. He can answer
those questions right now. Nine one eight four six oh
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and whatever your question is to eight two nine four five.
In the Celebrity News, there's a story between Corey Feldman
and his estranged wife. They filed for divorce last year,

(01:41:43):
but she is presenting evidence of text messages where it
says that he would help her or see what he
could do to help her. Does that work in the
state of Oklahoma? If you have a text message from
a soon to be ex spouse saying they would help you,
does that hold up well?

Speaker 9 (01:41:58):
I mean, text messages are used all the time in
evidence when we're doing any kind of hearing. I mean,
we use those all the time as far as help
her out. I mean, I'm not quite sure what that means.

Speaker 1 (01:42:08):
But i mean for spousal support.

Speaker 8 (01:42:10):
Right, So you know if in Oklahoma.

Speaker 9 (01:42:13):
Now, remember everything you read or hear about that is
outside Oklahoma is completely different law because we have our
alimony statute only says it's based upon need and ability
to pay. I mean, there are some states like Florida
and others that have this chart. They'll say, if you
make this amount of money and you're married for this
many years and you've got da da da da, then
you pay this amount. I mean, there's a chart kind

(01:42:35):
of stuff, but we don't have that in Oklahoma. It's
definitely a case by case basis. The person asking for
it has the burden to show that they have a need,
and then they also have to show that the other
person has the ability to pay. So, you know, could
those text messages be used.

Speaker 8 (01:42:51):
Possibly?

Speaker 9 (01:42:52):
The bigger question is is that I would be asking
is is at least if it were an Oklahoma case,
would be has he been providing her any kind of
support in the last year since they filed? If she's
just now asking for temporary spousal support. What has he
been giving her in the last year if anything. If
he hasn't she's been making it on her own, then
the need argument kind of dwindles at that point because

(01:43:15):
she's been doing fine for a year and is only
now asking for it, although there are reasons and the
people come and ask for it later. Maybe they've tried
to make it on their own and now their reserves
are gone and so we have to ask for it
moving forward, whatever it may be. So you know, it's
really a case by case basis. But yes, you can
use text messages.

Speaker 1 (01:43:32):
Jeff Heinsley from Hensley Associates is here and Sam is
on the line. Sam, what's your question for? Jeff Hensley
of Hensley and Associates.

Speaker 11 (01:43:40):
Hey, so my ex has filed for child support against
one of her other baby daddies. It's it's we have
an agreement, like something already set up, like we you know,

(01:44:00):
I pay her however much I can, when she can,
if she needs it, you know all that stuff. But
uh uh So basically, now the since she filowed for
child support on that guy, they're coming after me too.

Speaker 8 (01:44:13):
Yep, that's how it.

Speaker 1 (01:44:15):
Or it triggers another like everybody involved.

Speaker 8 (01:44:17):
Well, I mean how many.

Speaker 9 (01:44:19):
Obviously there's different kids by different dads, right, yes, yeah.
So my bigger question is, and I think this is
probably why they're coming after you, is there's probably some
state support being used in there, like sooner care or
something of that nature. And as I've explained before, they're
really cracking down on the payment for that. So I'm
not surprised they're coming after you, because if you can't

(01:44:39):
just have one open case on one kid and not
an open case and all the other kids in the
house kind of thing.

Speaker 8 (01:44:44):
So it's very common that they'll do that.

Speaker 9 (01:44:47):
As far as what you've paid, have you kept records
of it, did you send it? How did you pay
or did you pay her in cash? You pay her
in check, money order.

Speaker 11 (01:44:56):
Cash, appall mostly cash? Or buy directly for kids? I
mean they stay with me, you know, half the time anyway,
Like you know, she has her she has the kids,
right two days out of the year, I have the
one hundred and eighty three, so I mean, right, so
she doesn't actually need.

Speaker 9 (01:45:10):
Much, right, But my guess is is that that's not
turned into a court order signed by a judge, right,
that agreement?

Speaker 11 (01:45:19):
No, we haven't had We've we've kept the courts out
of it.

Speaker 8 (01:45:22):
Sure, and that's great.

Speaker 9 (01:45:23):
And you know, if people can that's awesome, you know,
I think that's a great thing. It saves you a
lot of headache and heartache and everything else. But at
the end of the day, as long as she goes
in there and says, yes, he has them half the time,
then they will run a computation to put you at halftime.
But you know, again, they're going to put your income
in and her income in, and you at one ey
two and hur at one eighty three, and then you know,

(01:45:44):
if their sener cure being used, and it's going to
spit out a number, and then they're going to look
back and see, well, how much has he paid prior
to us in the last two years? How much has
he paid prior to her filing. Now, if she will
agree that you've paid a certain amount, you can get
credit for that, all right. But if she has a
wild hair upper button decides that say, well, no, he

(01:46:04):
hasn't paid me anything and you don't have her, yeah,
you're screwed. I mean, that's that's why I always tell people,
if you pay for anything, always do it. In some
way that can be tracked. If you're gonna pay in
cash and just have to live by the cash, that's fine.
But get a receipt book and make her sign it
every single time that it's for child support. I mean,

(01:46:24):
that's what you just want to keep records because you know,
if you can, if you can get along and she
can be honest and tell the people at DHS, yes
he did this, and yes we do this, and you know,
and you've got that good relationship, awesome, you know, perfect,
go for it. But that's that's that's like one percent
of the cases that I deal with.

Speaker 11 (01:46:42):
So so is there any way that she can just say, hey,
you know I don't want child support?

Speaker 9 (01:46:48):
No, no, because I'm guessing the kids are on Sooner
Care right.

Speaker 4 (01:46:54):
Uh yeah?

Speaker 11 (01:46:54):
And I have insurance on him too.

Speaker 8 (01:46:57):
Why are they on both?

Speaker 11 (01:46:58):
Then she just didn't take them off?

Speaker 1 (01:47:02):
Okay?

Speaker 11 (01:47:03):
I when I when I moved back to Oklahoma, I
put both the kids on my insurance.

Speaker 9 (01:47:08):
So there might be a way to get me if
she dropped Sooner Care on those kids. There's a chance
that GHS can just go away and you don't have
to worry about this. But she's got to be willing
to remove them from Sooner Care. And my guess is
she's not going to remove them from sooner Care because
soior Care charity has what do you mean she charity has?

Speaker 11 (01:47:28):
So she she had Sooner Care from when we split up,
like twenty nineteen, when she moved back to Oklahoma, and
then when I came back to Oklahoma in twenty twenty,
I put them on my insurance, but she kept the
kids on her insurance because I don't know, maybe she
forgot or something.

Speaker 9 (01:47:45):
Her insurance and Sooner Care. Yeah, okay, are they still
on sooner Care? That's what I asked a minute ago.

Speaker 11 (01:47:52):
No. No, they've been off for a while, maybe six
eight months.

Speaker 1 (01:47:57):
Okay, Yeah, Sam, you're being kind of confusing with what
you're saying because you're saying they're off of it, but
they're still on her insurance and her insurance is sooner Care.

Speaker 8 (01:48:05):
So I get that they're off now, right for six months?
That's right? And so you know we're gonna need some
more specifics.

Speaker 9 (01:48:14):
If you give your name a number to Gimpy, I'll
call you and we'll kind of walk through it when
you have a little more time.

Speaker 8 (01:48:18):
Because being on the air is a little. It's hard
to get through all the every step.

Speaker 1 (01:48:21):
Of the way.

Speaker 9 (01:48:22):
But give your name in a gimpy and I will
call you either today or tomorrow and we'll get the specifics.
But you know, this sounds like there might be a
chance if she's willing to do some things to get
you off the hook on this, but I need more detail.
Give your name and number to him and I will
call you.

Speaker 1 (01:48:37):
Okay, thank you, hang online there, Sam, appreciate you, buddy.

Speaker 9 (01:48:39):
Sorry, guys, some of these get a little a little
hairy and it takes a little while to get through
it well.

Speaker 1 (01:48:43):
And you had mentioned like, hey, if you figured it
out on your own, that's all good until it's.

Speaker 9 (01:48:47):
Not right, and would send that for how many years,
I mean, how many years you've been doing this? Every
time you say it's great until it's not. And that's
so true. And you know, I'm glad that it's great
when it's great. You know, if you can do it
and keep the courts out of it, perfect, especially in
paternity cases, you know, wonderful. But at some point someone
hits a wall, whether it be a financial wall or
an emotional wall or something, and that's when stuff changes.

(01:49:08):
And that's when you got to call us so we
can help you get through those changes.

Speaker 1 (01:49:11):
Jeff Finsley from Hensley and Associates is here. David has
been waiting, David, what's your question for? Jeff Finsley?

Speaker 12 (01:49:17):
Hey, Jeff, how are you, ma'am?

Speaker 1 (01:49:19):
And how are you?

Speaker 12 (01:49:20):
I'm doing all right. I'm kind of a hypothetical deal here,
But so eight years ago, got a divorce fifty to fifty,
custody fifty to fifty? What is it custody? And then
what's the other part of that.

Speaker 8 (01:49:32):
Doing custody at halftime?

Speaker 12 (01:49:34):
Yeah? Okay, keep going, Yeah, okay, yeah, okay. So from
that day I've had them a hundred percent. So we're
go back eight years, I guess right. So my question
is by telling you that, looking at moving out of state,
Mom's pretty much not been involved at all. I'll advised
a long time ago. They're like, look, if you go
back and try to hammer this, the court is probably

(01:49:54):
going to require those kids to stay over there. So
I just kind of let it be because it was
just a bad deal. Just better this way. So I've
had them the whole time. Now I'm kind of looking
at leaving the state. It's just a better opportunity for
us right together.

Speaker 9 (01:50:06):
Right, So you've got to give notice under the statute,
and you've got to give her at least sixty days,
tell them where you're going, how to get a hold
of them, and then suggesting new visitation schedule. Now, if
she's not been involved, now here's the thing. You've got
to give her notice at least sixty days in advance,
all right, And it's in your decree exactly what you
have to do. If she doesn't file an objection within
thirty days, it's automatically granted and you don't have to worry,

(01:50:29):
and you can move and life goes on.

Speaker 1 (01:50:31):
So so the.

Speaker 12 (01:50:33):
Problem is, as as uninvolved as she is, she will
file that objection.

Speaker 9 (01:50:37):
So even if she does file that objection, then she
has to file to have it heard, and the issue becomes.

Speaker 8 (01:50:43):
You know, when you're moving, the burden is on you.

Speaker 9 (01:50:48):
Number one, on the first side of it, to say
I'm moving for a good faith reason, okay, which means
you can't move to Florida because you like palm trees.
You can't move to California because you want to see
celebrity and movie stars, Okay, you can't do those kind
of things. Good faith moves are for jobs, for you know,
significant others, being around family more, who can help you

(01:51:09):
with your kids?

Speaker 8 (01:51:10):
I mean, are you moving for a job.

Speaker 12 (01:51:11):
It sounds like yeah, it'd be financial.

Speaker 9 (01:51:14):
Okay, So so it'd be a good faith move, all right.
So step one is taken care of. Now the burden
falls to her to show that the move would not
be in the kid's best interest. Now, this is where
she's gonna have problems because if she has not been
involved in those kids' life despite what the order says, right,
I don't care that the order said halftime. If she's
not used any of that time or very little of

(01:51:35):
that time over the last eight years, proving to the
court that it's not in the kid's best interest is
going to be really difficult. I don't think she's going
to meet her burden simply because she can't. She can't say, well,
it's in their best interest to stay. Now understand, I've
never used any time, and I just like that you know,
comfort and security blanket of them being close, even though

(01:51:57):
I don't ever use it. I mean, that's not going
to lie with any judge. I mean, the judge is
going to say, look, you had halftime.

Speaker 8 (01:52:02):
You could have used it. Why didn't you use it?

Speaker 9 (01:52:05):
And she's going to say, well, I just chose not
to because I was on drugs or I was alcoholic,
or whatever it may be. Whatever the reason is, she's
going to fail. So you know, when you're ready to
file that relocation, give me a call.

Speaker 8 (01:52:16):
I'd be happy to do that.

Speaker 9 (01:52:17):
I've done a ton of relocation cases. I've got two
or three right now, so I'm happy to help you
with it.

Speaker 12 (01:52:22):
Awesome. That sounds good. So it doesn't sound like a
very sticky no.

Speaker 9 (01:52:25):
No, it shouldn't be, not based upon the at least
based upon the fact you're telling me right now. And understand, everybody,
when you call in, I can only give you advice
on what you're telling me right here on the radio
and when we talk.

Speaker 8 (01:52:35):
So just understand that.

Speaker 4 (01:52:36):
I understood, right. I appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (01:52:38):
Thanks, buddy, have a good day. Man.

Speaker 9 (01:52:39):
When we get into the middle of that, when we
get into cases, that's when we find that there may
be some other facts that didn't come out, and so
these situation changes.

Speaker 11 (01:52:47):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:52:48):
This is a text message that came in if you
had a question for Jeff Hensley of Hensley associates about
family law. He can answer it. A couple of ways
to get your question to us nine one, eight four
to six, Oh, KMOD, you can email show at kmod
dot com or text like this one and whatever that
question is to eight two nine four five. It says,
for Jeff, my ex wife behind my back got one
of our kids braces and they didn't need them yet,
if at all, but she went ahead and got it

(01:53:10):
done and now wants me to pay half. Since it's
not a must do. Should I have to pay her?

Speaker 8 (01:53:16):
Huh?

Speaker 1 (01:53:17):
Yes?

Speaker 8 (01:53:18):
First of all, are you a dentist?

Speaker 9 (01:53:20):
Did you go to dental school? Do you have a
dental certificate? A license? I mean when you say don't
need them or you know too early? What's that based on?

Speaker 1 (01:53:34):
All? Right?

Speaker 9 (01:53:34):
Now, the question is do you and maybe he said
it and I just didn't hear it.

Speaker 8 (01:53:38):
Do they have joint custody?

Speaker 9 (01:53:39):
Did it not say that? Okay, so does she have
soul custody? If so, she can do whatever she wants, dude,
and send you the bill and say your portion is X.
If you have joint custody, that probably should have been
a joint cutsy situation. And you know those are things
that should have been addressed. There's a way to address
that with the court. But at the end of the day,
the judge is going to go, well, was there a

(01:54:00):
was there a licensed dentist that said that kid needed braces? Well, yes,
then you need to pay your portion. I mean, there's
no It's not like she went out and bought a
dental kid off Amazon and decided to slap braces on herself, right,
That's not how it happened. She went to a dentist
somewhere who is licensed and trained that said that that

(01:54:21):
kid needs braces. So, yeah, braces suck. I mean the
sense not only for the kid, you know, physically, but
financially they're expensive.

Speaker 8 (01:54:29):
They are god awful.

Speaker 2 (01:54:30):
I get that.

Speaker 9 (01:54:30):
But at the same time too, if the kid needs them,
you need to pay your portion.

Speaker 1 (01:54:34):
Dude. This text message says my mom messaged me saying
she's going to terminate her parental rights to try and
get out of back child support. Me and my brother
are both adults. Now, is there any validity to her claim?

Speaker 8 (01:54:47):
No, that doesn't work that way.

Speaker 9 (01:54:48):
Say more, Well, I mean you can't after the fact,
go oh, I'm gonna termine it my right, So I
don't have to pay back child support doesn't work that
way when the kids are adults.

Speaker 8 (01:54:57):
Okay, first of all, the chances of and I I
guess he.

Speaker 9 (01:55:00):
Doesn't say how old he is, how he holds his
brother and him are, but I'm guessing it's significant enough that,
you know, trying to collect on that back support, it's
going to be difficult unless the state is trying to
come in and get back support that was owed specifically
for the state for sender care and things like that.
But the only way to terminate rights in the state
of Oklahoma are either a through the state taking them

(01:55:23):
in a deprived child action, all right, and that's an
a juvenile court proceeding, or by an adoption.

Speaker 8 (01:55:29):
That's it.

Speaker 9 (01:55:30):
That's why I say no, because you can't just sign
your rights away. Now again, did Oklahoma have that at
some point?

Speaker 8 (01:55:36):
Absolutely, we did, long, long, long, long, you know, long
time ago in a galaxy far far away, it was
like that here in Oklahoma.

Speaker 9 (01:55:43):
But the law changed twenty thirty years ago. It hasn't
been like that in a very long time. So with
that being actually it's more like thirty now. I guess
I keep forgetting I've been in practice fifteen years now.
So with that being said, you know you can't just say, well,
I'm giving up my rights so I don't have to
go through child so don't have to pay child support.
Not not the way that she's explaining it. So no,
that's consider your source. Call your attorney if you have questions.

Speaker 1 (01:56:06):
This one says, wife downloaded divorce papers online. How danger
is is? How dangerous is this with a child?

Speaker 8 (01:56:14):
So you know, my.

Speaker 9 (01:56:17):
Just a quick two seconds aside, my wife and I've
gotten into this. If we're getting upset with one of
the kids, we do this whole danger Will Robinson danger,
and this is a danger Will Robinson danger situation.

Speaker 8 (01:56:26):
Okay, you know, read the question one more time.

Speaker 1 (01:56:30):
Absolutely, wife downloaded divorce papers online, so.

Speaker 9 (01:56:33):
You remember when you go online those papers may not
be are most likely not. This is true for any state,
are not specific to Oklahoma. I don't care that you
say you put in well, I'm in Oklahoma and I
live in Tulsa County, and you know that's not what
it is.

Speaker 8 (01:56:49):
Those papers could be completely and utterly wrong.

Speaker 9 (01:56:52):
Okay, there is a group, there are several businesses throughout
the state that do these really cheap divorces that are
paperwork drafted by paralegals that.

Speaker 8 (01:57:01):
Own these companies.

Speaker 9 (01:57:02):
Okay, we spend most of our time fixing their problems
and mistakes.

Speaker 8 (01:57:06):
That tells you anything. People come to me and the.

Speaker 9 (01:57:08):
Decree is all screwed up, the child supports messed up,
the visitations all screwed up. We spend a lot of
time fixing their problems. So understand that. You know, if
you download something on the internet, it's probably not right.
So that's why you want to hire somebody like us
who's done this for fifteen years, day in and day out.
All right, and we know what the law requires, we

(01:57:30):
know what the state requires, we know what the judges
want in those decrees, so that it's done the first
time correctly, so that we're not having to fix it
down the road.

Speaker 1 (01:57:38):
But you can absolutely do it. But you can also
absolutely do your own knee surgery, right.

Speaker 8 (01:57:42):
You can do your ow knee surgery.

Speaker 9 (01:57:44):
You can do your own light bosuction, you can do
your own castration. I mean, there's all sorts of things
you can do yourself. It doesn't mean it's going to
be done.

Speaker 1 (01:57:52):
Right this tex says. Sun has been separated from his
wife for eight plus years. They're now getting divorce for
remarriage purposes. Judge wants to throw out everything they've done
successfully and require visitation and child support. Both of them
agree it's not necessary. Are they under obligations to follow
the court order? Or can they just ignore and continue

(01:58:13):
on doing what they continue on doing what they're doing.

Speaker 8 (01:58:19):
Read it one more time. We'll make sure I've got
this straight before I give out my answer.

Speaker 1 (01:58:22):
Son has been separated from his wife for eight plus years.
Got it? They're now getting a divorce for remarriage purposes.

Speaker 8 (01:58:27):
Now what does that mean for?

Speaker 4 (01:58:28):
Oh?

Speaker 8 (01:58:28):
I guess one of them is getting remarried? Okay, keep going.

Speaker 1 (01:58:30):
The judge wants to throw out everything they've done successfully
and require visitation and child support. Both of them agree
it's not necessary. Are they under any obligation to follow
the court order? Or can they just ignore and continue
on doing what they're doing?

Speaker 8 (01:58:45):
All right?

Speaker 9 (01:58:46):
So, anytime you have an order that's signed by a judge,
should you be following that order?

Speaker 8 (01:58:51):
Absolutely right.

Speaker 9 (01:58:52):
That's why it's an order, either by agreement or by
a judge making a ruling. Now, having said that, the
whole idea behind a decree and a custody plan all right.

Speaker 8 (01:59:03):
Is that they are organic documents.

Speaker 9 (01:59:06):
And what I mean by organic is is that they
are meant to be able to grow and to change
and to be modified by the parties involved without the
court system over time, if they need be all right.
So the idea is that a decree or a custody
plan is just a jumping off point for the people
to start with, and over time that document is meant
to be adjusted and tweaked and all sorts of things

(01:59:30):
so the parties can learn to work with one another.
I don't know what they're doing. I don't know what
the judge ordered, all right, whoever this is, please call me.
I'd love to find out. But based upon the little
bit we have here, I mean, if there's an order
in place, they should be following it.

Speaker 8 (01:59:45):
All orders should be followed. But if the parties agree.

Speaker 9 (01:59:48):
To tweak and bend things and modify things, that's the
idea behind a decree and a custody plan anyway, So
if they want, if they choose to do so, that's fine.
Just to understand, there may be ramifications down the road
that could bite them in the butt. And that's why
I want more detail before I give a final answer.

(02:00:08):
On this simply because there's a lot of holes. It's
like Swiss cheese, and we need to fill those in
so we can give a straight answer. But again, decrees
are meant to be organic. Those people that stand behind
it and say, I'm only going to give you this
time because that's what the order says, well, that's not
what it was meant to do, all right. When it
changes or is tweaked or bent, all right or whatever

(02:00:29):
by the parties, that's great. If for some reason that
falls apart, you always have the decree to fall or
the custody plan whatever to fall back on, which is fine,
all right, But you shouldn't be so hard and resolute
on this is all I'm gonna do that because it's
not what the legislator legislature meant when they wrote the
decrees the way they did.

Speaker 1 (02:00:48):
And if you're gonna not follow it because you both agree,
is there anything you can do to safeguard yourself when
you suddenly don't agree.

Speaker 9 (02:00:54):
Well, I mean, always put it in writing. I mean
we always put in there. You know, the parties may
deviate from uh, may deviator modify this visitation based upon
a written agreement. Always get it in writing. In some
way doesn't remember notary notific Notaries don't mean anything other
than yes, this is the person actually signed the document.
It doesn't make it quote legal binding document, all right, please,

(02:01:17):
that's some misunderstanding from TV. The only thing that makes
it illegal binding document is when a judge who is
you know, part of the judicial system in the state
of Oklahoma signs it. That's when it becomes an order
that is enforceable. But always get it in writing, not
text messages. Get it in something hard copy, handwritten, typed
up and signed, not just in digital form.

Speaker 1 (02:01:40):
Jeff Hensley from hensleynd Associates can answer your questions about
divorce custody. Anybody in his affirm can help you, and
they're going to give a free consultation over the phone.
Niven eight five six nine two. And we got a
text message that says, does Jeff do immigration law?

Speaker 4 (02:01:57):
You know?

Speaker 9 (02:01:57):
Actually that is the one area and we were actually
getting ready to add it to PAHUSCA recently. That is
the one area that we don't. But I have a
lawyer that does a great job who I can refer
you to. We are looking at adding that one to
our PAHUSCA office within the next couple year or two.
But because that's very specific and that takes very specific

(02:02:20):
knowledge and information. But whoever this is, if you will
call my office, Corbyn will read out the number at
the end of the segment.

Speaker 8 (02:02:27):
Give me a call.

Speaker 9 (02:02:28):
I'll be happy to refer you to somebody. But in
Pasca we do a bunch of other things too, So
in addition to family law, if you've got any other issues,
I mean lots of speed traps out this morning, So
if you were pulled over and given a ticket.

Speaker 8 (02:02:38):
Please give us a call. We'd love to help you
with that and make it go away.

Speaker 9 (02:02:42):
If you've been hurt in a car wreck, if somebody
in the medical field has hurt you and it's committed malpractice,
please give us a call.

Speaker 8 (02:02:47):
We'd love to help you with that.

Speaker 9 (02:02:48):
If you've got any contract issues, need a contract reviewed,
need one written.

Speaker 8 (02:02:52):
If you've got a probate issue.

Speaker 9 (02:02:54):
Somebody in your family has died and now their will
is in probate and you have to deal with that.
Or if you need a will draft did or a
prenuptial agreement or anything of that nature, in addition to
family law, give them a call. It's the shoemake law firm. Yes,
it is a different name. It is Hensley. We just
left the name when we bought the firm, uh from
when the individual retired.

Speaker 8 (02:03:14):
Please get give them a call. They'll definitely help you
out and get you taken care of.

Speaker 1 (02:03:18):
You can also call nine one eight three nine eight
five six three nine eight five six nine two for
Hinsley associates. Jeff, have a great week. Hey, you too,
take a break and we'll be back.

Speaker 11 (02:03:28):
Then.

Speaker 10 (02:03:28):
More of The Big Man Morning Show is next ninety
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Speaker 1 (02:03:46):
Good morning, It's the Big Mad Morning Show. Nine one
eight four six Oh k M O D. You can
also text BMMS and then what you want to say
to eight two nine four five. Remember the story a
few years ago about the guy in Kansas City. They
were having a chief's watch party and then his buddies

(02:04:08):
were found dead in the backyard, and then he mysteriously
checked into rehab. I'm always fascinated by these stories of
like we were partying and then we weren't. This is
another one like that where this guy him and his
buddy were apparently drinking their asses off at his Hampton home,
which sounds like maybe they were well off. I don't know,

(02:04:29):
and apparently at some point one of the guys decided
to whoop the other's ass and then stab him with
a knife Jesus, and then call a handyman to come
clean it up. Our handyman known for like cleanup crew.
I don't know, you know, you've always got like, like,

(02:04:49):
what is that? Ray Donovan called the cleaner right the wolf? Yeah, yeah,
call the handyman. Maybe it's code. I mean, maybe he
saw in a movie. He was like, hey, I've seen
them call the handyman. And so he just looked up
handyman and then you know, Bob's fixed it showed up
and he's like, uh okay. So they're saying that this
guy was drinking a lot, apparently, and they were drinking

(02:05:16):
for hours, that they were hanging out, just throwing him back,
having fun, and there's apparently even video footage of him
attacking his buddy. They got into a heated dispute and
then the man, mister Jeremy Allen forty three, beat the

(02:05:42):
other guy, also forty three, and then stashed his body
under a tarp on the back patio before calling the handyman.
They said that this guy had also has a previous
drunk driver, I'm sorry several times, been charged with drunk
driving and has a rape charge waiting to be taken

(02:06:05):
to trial that they were allowed apparently pounding drinks down
when they got into an altercation. Apparently the Jeremy got
a little angry, beat the man for six hours good
lord before prosecutors. Uh said, he pulled out a large

(02:06:25):
knife and stabbed his friend in the head and neck.
That's when he apparently texted a handyman from the area
and said he Hey, need work, got a job for you,
Got some wetwork for you. So the handyman shows up.
It says that the handyman saw the blood and was like, uh,

(02:06:48):
I'm gonna need bleach. Left to go get bleach, but
called the police, and the police showed up, of course,
and arrested the man and he's being held without bail.

Speaker 7 (02:07:05):
This feels a little premeditated.

Speaker 1 (02:07:07):
You think he set her and beat the s out
of him for six hours?

Speaker 9 (02:07:10):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (02:07:10):
Six hours he was getting some stuff out.

Speaker 7 (02:07:13):
Doesn't feel like we just got into a little argument
about something in random conversation.

Speaker 1 (02:07:19):
Hm, right, I don't feel that way. Yeah, probably did
you know, But like I said, he was drunk. He
was drunk, right, They've been drinking for hours, right, And
he probably did start off with something as innocent as that,
and then the guy just kept kept on going. Like
I said, was getting some pent up aggression out. I

(02:07:42):
thought this was just a snarky comment in the story,
like sometimes writers will throw in some snarky comment, But
this is authority, said. Jeremy Allen and his drinking buddy
were discussing their next twelve step program when they got
into a heated dispute. I know, well, I have never
been through a twelve step program. I've been to twelve

(02:08:03):
step meetings with people that are going through the program,
and I don't recall one beating the snot out of
somebody for six hours as one of the steps. Maybe again,
I've never been, so I don't know. It's the unspoken
thirteenth step. So I don't know if they was trying

(02:08:24):
are like, hey, no, you won't tell anybody beating somebody
for six hours seems unimaginable. Yeah, I mean, you know,
you've you've been drunk sometimes, and you know it just
things just don't work out the way that you know

(02:08:45):
you plan on it, and you just keep going back
and trying again, going back and trying again. Let's just
say he punched him once every fifteen minutes. That's still
twenty four punches. That's a lot of punches, be honest,
if you're not somebody who does it on the rag.
So I imagine it was more than once every fifteen minutes.
Wait for the interval time to go off. I doubt that, right,

(02:09:06):
Probably was very aggressive, and maybe he passed out and
then beat him some more, and then passed out and
beat him some more, and apparently not bad enough to
cause death. I think you beat somebody for six hours,
I think they're going to be damn near dead. Yeah, well,
I mean, I guess it really depends on where you're
hitting them. If you're just you know, hitting him in
the arm for six hours straight, you're not going to

(02:09:28):
die from that. But like you saw a slug bug,
what do you mean, Yeah, exactly, swapping licks like you
would with your brother back in eighth grade. Yeah for sure,
But like that was like two minutes maybe uh gut punches.
I don't think you could die from that. Maybe. Oh yeah,
that's right, that's right, he did. Did he hit like

(02:09:49):
a cannonball or something like that? Oh no, he did
a trick where you could get punched in the stomach
as hard as you could.

Speaker 7 (02:09:56):
Did he hit him so hard that he knocked him
out the first time that he couldn't get up and
get away.

Speaker 1 (02:10:01):
He's got to wake him up so we can beat
him again. It said they were drinking for a long time. Yeah,
he may not. I mean most of us can't get
up fast sober. Yeah, but to do it for and
be drunk. And I don't know the guy. The picture
of the guy, he looks to be kind of a
large individual, so maybe there was a presence about him.

(02:10:24):
I don't know what the other guy looks like. We're
of a puddle now, but like, m yeah, dude, to
just start whooping someone a right, I don't know if
I don't have any friendships with people that are that
borderline friendships. I guess they were friends. I mean they

(02:10:45):
were enough to be drinking for hours on in with
each other, right in a home, in someone's home. Right,
one of them thought they were friends for sure, right? Right?
Maybe the other guy's just using him for his alcohol's like,
let's got paste for everything, right? Or it feels like
there's a lot of stories where men get really drunk

(02:11:08):
and they're with their buddy and then somehow where they
just whooped their ass. I'm not saying this is what's
happened in all of those, but if one of them
made a sexual advance misreading the room, okay, I could
see someone responding overtly, like very aggressive. And I'm not

(02:11:33):
saying that's what happened here. I don't know. I remember
the sheriff that happened with that one sheriff. They were
in Florida and then he beat the guy to death. Yeah,
or like, hey we have we have some you know,
broke back mountain thing, but don't tell anybody. And he's like, well,
then if we don't do X y Z, I'm gonna telly,

(02:11:54):
hell you are. I can't talk if you're dead, that
if your jaw's broken. I'm just saying, tell me that
isn't a possibility. That is a possibility for sure. A
one time thing where they were drunk and he tried
to play a little me touchy. He goes in for
a kiss and he's like, whoa, hey, I remember the

(02:12:15):
one time in the tent in the mountains. No, I
don't your hand was on my leg. I thought we
were cool. Right, you were. You were giving me the look.
Didn't you see what I was wearing? Trying to send
all the signals? Right? We locked eyes. My pants say
juicy on the back. We locked eyes. I thought that
meant something. Doesn't that serially the way it works it

(02:12:37):
with the ladies? We locked eyes. You were nice to me, right,
that's the next step. All right, we gotta take a break.
We'll be back.

Speaker 2 (02:12:47):
Tulsa's Morning Show is coming right back, The Big Morning Show,
Tulsa's rock station.

Speaker 1 (02:13:11):
Good morning, It's the Big Man Morning Show. Lindsay what
you learn today?

Speaker 7 (02:13:17):
Nothing ends a friendship like a six hour beat down
followed by a stabbing. And I also learned that China
smells like poop.

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Gimme what you learn today. I learned that they make
a new medicine for seizures. It's called meth. And I
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