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Welcome Back From The Weekend!!! We Talked About The Best & Worst Parts, Audio From The Jane's Addiction Fight Came Out, Can't Get DUI If You Chug The Bottle, Don't Trust Your UBER Driver, We talk To An Awesome Listener, Jeff Hensley Stops By, There Was A Who's The Boss Sequel Planned, & Garth Brooks Surprises Us All!!!!

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or five.

Speaker 8 (03:50):
Hooray.

Speaker 1 (03:50):
You might remember a few weeks back maybe even longer
than that. Perry Farrell was on stage and said his
audio the band was too loud and he couldn't hear
himself and pushed and shoved Dave Navarro and resulted in
them ending their tour. And he claims that they were

(04:11):
just too loud and the people in front were telling
him that the band was too it was too it's
too loud for us. Perry, excuse me, Perry. I know
you're busy, but uh, loud decible reading on my watch.
And that's what Perry Farrell claims. And then afterwards he's like, ah,
I'm just having a hard time, and this sixty plus

(04:33):
year old man, you know, decides we're gonna call it
quits and the end it right, huh? And that was
the end of it, and you go, okay, yeah, bands,
that happens with bands whatever, turmoil and whatever. They've been
known to have their problems. And then this happens where
the guitar tech of seventeen years of the band decides
to release the audio track from Perry Pharrell that night.
M yeah, it's juicy, it's good, I've got it. We're

(04:56):
gonna play it. And you get some clarity of two.
What what's happening now? I've never been one that says
Jane's Addiction is known for being this musically gifted band.
Can some of them play really well? Of course, I
don't know if Perry Farrell is a great singer. I've
never been like ready to stand on that hill. I've
loved Jane's Addiction, grew up with him, seeing him multiple times,

(05:18):
thought it was awesome. Right. This may make you have
a different opinion of that night of Perry Farrell of
Dave Navarro. I don't know, but this is from the
guitar Atteck. You will hear him make some narration throughout
and one of the things he says he's off spot,
which means that that means Perry's entering the song at

(05:39):
the wrong time or he's singing in the wrong spot. Gotch.
So here is the audio from the guitar tech at
the night that Perry Farrell pushed Dave Navarro basically ending
the band he's in the wrong spot. Shit. Now, I
may be not musically inclined and I am a horrible singer,

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but I don't think he's singing no, no, I don't
know what you want to call that and remember my
take when he showed aggression. I was like that that
reeks of somebody intoxicated or altered in some stand And
then you hear the audio and Okay, I'm the junkin'
baby on that s junking shit. Last said, Oh that

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sounds just frustrating. But check this out.

Speaker 6 (06:48):
He's mother the band.

Speaker 1 (06:52):
Damn damn. That's when he hits dad pushes deave what

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I've made those same sounds before? Right?

Speaker 9 (07:28):
What is going on reminds me of bad lip reading
videos that you see on YouTube, like where.

Speaker 1 (07:34):
They right, it's all nonsense, yes, and apparently according to
the guitar tech. In other comments, he says that they
had turned down Perry's vocals in everyone else and on
the stage because who wants to hear He was very kind.

(07:57):
He said his voice sounded strange. That's definitely a way
to say it. Yeah, yeah, strained is not the word
I would choose. What cracks me up is the hilarious
that the crowd goes crazy and cheers for the hot
garbage that is going into their ears right now. But
you don't know that, right, You're most It's like zydeco music.

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You're just in the moment. Yeah, I guess how many times,
very rarely have you seen a band have been like
they were off when other the band might go, man,
we were off tonight. So there's a little bit and
the musicianship of everyone else sounds like it covered it up.
They messed with the mix, and there could have been
another track too, they could have played. Maybe this is

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something the band's used to, and they play a different
audio track mixed in with him, so it sounds like
a different products, so he sounds more polished.

Speaker 4 (08:47):
Yeah, it just sounds like a singer.

Speaker 1 (08:51):
And I always think about this, and I will now
cite this on reasons why I don't like going to
see bands anymore that are trying to relive all right
their time? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It was a Motley
Cruz was bad about it. You know, events just sounded horrible.
This is real bad over the summer. You see the
videos on the TikTok or whatever, and it's just what

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are you do? You even know what you're saying right now? Right,
They're just not the same. You're not the same band,
you're not the same singer. And sometimes that's good, sometimes
it's not. Yeah, right, you grew up a lot of
things that have happened in your life. Twenty years can
put quite the strain on vocals, thirty years whatever. Very
rarely do you go see a band and go, man,
they were just as good as they were when they

(09:36):
were twenty. Yeah, very rare. Lem Biscuit was one of them.
I'll give them. I think they evolved in a good way. Right.
To me, it's they're just a different band, but they're
just evolved, right, rather than yeah, yeah, I think and
people go see it's different if you evolve and keep

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playing and your music of all too right. Think of Godsmacks,
think of Metallica, like your music has evolved. But when
you don't do anything and then you come back and
you're like, toda, here I am. I'm singing just the same,
you're not. I've got no interest. But that puts so

(10:19):
much context into the night. Sure, he clearly sounds not available.

Speaker 4 (10:28):
He's off.

Speaker 1 (10:29):
He's just having an off night, man, way off. I
feel like when you've been in a band, I don't
know how long now, granted I'll give a pass me.
It was like the first or second night it wasn't yeah,
but coming in the song at the wrong time, I
think that's inexcusable at that level. It's your song, man,
It's a song you've sang a long time, even if
it's a new song. Surely you rehearsed. You shouldn't be

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missing your cues as the lead singer unless you're neebriated. Yeah,
which is definitely possible. But I thought that was some gem.
And I think that the guitar tech of seventeen years
releasing this track shows how much dissension there was. Yeah,

(11:13):
he's like, I think everybody's I want you to see
what's happening. This isn't as innocent as he just had
a bad night, and probably because he blamed Tech in
the mix. For sure, he was like, hey, no, I
ain't your fall boy. You made this bed, h you
got to sleep in it.

Speaker 4 (11:31):
And I don't blame him for that.

Speaker 8 (11:35):
I mean.

Speaker 1 (11:36):
It felt like I guess he felt like he had
to redeem his image or his reputation. So far as
the guitar tex yeah, yeah, I guess. But if surely
guitar teks don't go no, no, no, he was lying,
Like everybody knows who Perry ferrellas.

Speaker 9 (11:51):
Maybe he was just tired of covering for him all
these years. Enough is enough, Bro, You've disrespected the entire band.

Speaker 1 (11:58):
I mean again, I don't think this a new thing
with Perry Farrell, So it doesn't like you you know
what you signed up for. That's like if you're gonna
join a guy, be a part of a crew that's
known for being let's just use I'm just trying to
pick somebody of late notoriety. If you hang out with
you know, you join the Morgan Walling team and you're
shocked that he throws chairs off off rooftops, that's on you,

(12:22):
right because everybody knows he's done that. So it shouldn't
You shouldn't be like, well, I'm just gotta, you know,
Bill rebuild my reputation. No, you you agreed if you
don't want to be don as part of the chair
throwing team. Yeah right, you know what I'm saying. By
the way, I don't think the chair throws a giant
big deal, but it feels like very rock star. But

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I mean, didn't make it hurt. I can see the danger.
Well how tall we talking two stories? One stories nine? Three?
Maybe yeah, I don't know, I don't know, but it's
just cheer. Oh was it a good chair? It was
like an amish one was a cracker barrel thing, like,
what are you talking about? We should experiment with that, right,
We've got five floors here, Okay, all right, so I'll
get up on the roof right one of you two

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could be down on the ground. I'll just throw a
chair over, okay, and uh let it to fall on
top of you, and we'll see how bad that hurts. Now,
I'm not talking like one of these big old bulky faces. Right,
We'll get a chair like Morgan Wallen had probably a
barstool chair, yeah, yeah, something light top, yeah, thing, just
picture right over the edge and see see how bad
that would hurt. I mean, I think it would hurt.

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But did he throw it where there's people? I think
you landed next to two cops and that's why he
ended up getting in trouble. So it's not the cops,
Like what the hell I mean? Did they see him
throw it? Right? They went up there and Morgan got fingered.
It was ham They pointed the finger at him. It
was he threw it. Here's a question, he says, I

(13:48):
blame on the ID do it too? And I know
this is old news and we haven't really dived into this.
But if you're part of Morgan Wallen's crew and you're
just a hanger on her, don't you do?

Speaker 8 (13:59):
You go?

Speaker 1 (14:00):
It was me? Oh, I take the hit for him
on a chair toying. It's not DUI. I mean, listen now,
hear me out. It depends how deep are you into
this Morgan wall and crew. Have you been in the
crew since the beginning, right or you just now coming

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aboard and you want to prove yourself. If you want
to prove yourself and be like deeper into the Morgan
wall and Crew, I would totally take the hit. Be like, yep,
that was me, yorry man. I mean it's not the
mafia one. Like, I don't know if you have to
like prove your loyalty now, but I mean I'm sure
it has its perks now. The drumbs alone are probably fine,

(14:44):
exactly exactly. And it's like your crumbs will get bigger,
You'll get more morsels than you would crumbs. Yeah, so
I think it might be worth it to take it, take,
you know, take the fall for the gay.

Speaker 4 (14:57):
But when that happened, didn't they physically see him do it?

Speaker 1 (15:00):
Well? If they got hit by the chair, I don't.
I almost got hit by the chair, and how they
would see him up on the roof too, right, video footage, Yeah,
there's probably video footage. Yeah, I'm just saying that, like,
I'm sure in the moment, you could be like that
was me man, and they're like, oh great, you're going
to prison. You're like, oh, hold on, I thought that'd
just be a misdemeanor fine and I'd be on my
way them doub would bail me out.

Speaker 4 (15:21):
Yeah, the chair jumped, I swear.

Speaker 1 (15:25):
Yeah, young me, yes, thirty something to me. Hell no,
you're an adult. Right. That was a sixth story bar
that he threw it off of. Yeah, I mean so
we got we got what, we gotta go to the
building next door then, because you know, we only got
five here, so if we're going to work, that'll think yeah,

(15:48):
hypothetical anyway, I'm just trying to be as accurate as possible.
I mean, we don't even know the chair, and either
one of us has the height or strength of Morgan
Waugh and I have no idea his height or you know,
body structure. Here's a question I've been He does these
walkouts with like local people. Have you seen this on
his tours like fighters. No, No, like local celebrities. Like

(16:09):
he was just in Florida and walked out with Hogan
and Baker Mayfield and when he was in Kansas City
a couple Chiefs players, And I'm just trying to understand
the is a emulating some sort of fighter walk out thing?
Like is he trying to imply they're tight? I gotta
understand it. It's probably one of those look at who
I'm friends with, Yeah, from your hometown.

Speaker 4 (16:29):
Feels like a brag.

Speaker 1 (16:30):
Yeah, because when you say local celebrities, right, I think
of like the local radio guy or the the the
big mattress dealer there in town, the whole Hogan in
Baker Mayfield. As they are local and they are celebrities.
I think they're a little bit bigger than that. Yeah. Uh.

(16:52):
In Vegas it was Tom Brady and Mike Tyson, see
huge names, two of them. Yeah, almost everyone have been
like huge names. But I'm just curious of the mindset
of the walk out. Yeah. Yeah, he's not walking out
with Tom the sofa king of Tampa Bay. No, I mean, no,
that's what I would consider like the local celebrity. No,

(17:14):
they're all big. Yeah, yeah, that's that's just all as. Yeah,
look at who I know. I don't know if Baker's
inn A. He probably is in that town. In that town,
for sure, he's on He's probably on a poster or
a season ticket or something. Yeah. After Thursday, I don't know.
They played okay, Yeah, they played okay. But I hear
you yeah uh, And I think you should slow down

(17:36):
over there, Garoppolo. Oh, right, before you start shooting shots
across quarterback bows, just give it to you. You're Google
doing his best Garoppolo impression, tomber Garoppolo, I'm remind you
of what that looked like. Nonetheless, and Hogan is Hogan

(17:57):
in A. Hogan's an A. No matter he was a,
he's still in A. He's still in a pretty polarizing Now,
if you just mentioned, hey, I'm bringing Hulk Hogan to
the party, people are gonna freak the f out. I
think he's still a lister. He found his daughter was
that brook or whatever, And because of that TV show

(18:19):
that they had, she had a little bit of she
would be like a c or of d level. But
I think Daddy still got it. I think Daddy Hulk
still got I don't know, man, you bring him you
bring Rick Flair to the party, people are people are
going crazy of a wrestling group short listener shows up.

(18:41):
I'm like Ted dbis here. I don't know about that,
but if you're a wrestling for sure, But like just
I think that everybody knows who Hulk Hogan is, even
even you know kids, the kids these days, you know,
the younger generation still knows who the Hulk is. Yeah,
I consider him an A. I was trying to see

(19:03):
if we could see uh A list celebrities, okay, and
see if his name is on that list somewhere like yeah,
that does that feel like the power of those names
and totally subjective? Right yeah? Yeah, yeah, you could easily
say Tom Brady a lister right way more way more.

(19:23):
I think he's still in the same arena he made
me think Tom Brady and haul Cogan are in the
same arena for.

Speaker 4 (19:30):
Sure, popularity, popularity.

Speaker 1 (19:32):
And greatness and what they did for sure. For sure, Man,
I don't think so. And that's not to undermine hal
Cogan and like all the things he did and all
the things he did, I would argue Mike Tyson is
a bigger A than hal Cogan. I put them both

(19:53):
in the same boat because they were both popular at
the same time. They were both huge in their own
right in their respected career. Okay, so I think I
think it's a huge arena, this A List celebrity is.
You know, that's a huge arena, and there's a lot
that fit in there. So I would put Tom and

(20:13):
Hulk and Tyson all in this, Sue, I'm kind of
quite it like this, if you need special security, like
multiple people, you're an A List celebrity, Okay. And I
don't think Hall Gogan needs. He probably has a security person,
but I don't know if Tom Brady needs. I don't know.
I don't know, Like if you need multiple security around you,

(20:36):
like earpiece.

Speaker 4 (20:37):
Like, yeah, I don't think.

Speaker 9 (20:40):
I don't think any one of those guys are having
a at this point because he's got a fight coming up.
But other than that, I don't see any one of
those guys walking around with major security in an earpiece.

Speaker 1 (20:54):
And do you really see any celebrity like that? Absolutely yeah,
lots of them. Okay, mostly female, but lots of it
may be the case, and I just don't pay attention enough.
I'm fascinated by that part of the world, like celebrity
security detail, right, and like how that works? How you
landed that gig? Right? How do you land that gig?

(21:14):
They put an ad in the paper wanted security guard.
Do you know a guy who know a guy? Know
a guy? Like? Are you do you? Like, obviously you're
a shadow, but are you do you know everything they do?
How do you How do you you hear special information?
How do you let that just blow by? Right? People
are horrible usually about keeping secrets. They can't help but

(21:38):
tell their spouse. And that's what I mean, not like
they're not, like, you know, making a blog post, but
like they tell their spouse, right or do they do?
They just not do that? It? Maybe it depends, right.
I just think that when you start talking about a list.
I don't know if Haul Cochin is a maybe maybe
on the fringe outside of the A listers, like an

(21:59):
A minus maybe, But I think he still is. I
don't know.

Speaker 9 (22:02):
I think he's in there because he's been in the
spotlight or wasn't the spotlight for so long?

Speaker 1 (22:08):
Yeah, he never really has left, He absolutely has. He
likes the wrestling same, but then he went on and
got the reality TV show and then there was the lawsuit.
You know, and then got out of that and the
board you skipped over him banging his best friend's wife
in her bed was a lawsuit. Yeah, that's the loss
of it. Yeah, I'm just saying, just way frame it.

(22:30):
There's a newspaper term called above the fold, right, and
if you're an als celebrity, your story would appear above
the fold, and that's where the paper folds in half. Right.
I don't think Hall cokein appears above the fold. That's
pretty interesting text. Also, the audiences are getting older and
more sober less. Young people I know drink these days
at least five percent on how much we used to

(22:52):
commonly drink. So singers can't get away with as much
bull crap with the sober audience and instant replays on
their phones, and so if you're faking it, eventually they
will see. What do you think of that?

Speaker 9 (23:03):
That's I agree with a lot of it being more
sober less people drinking heavily at those kinds of shows,
So maybe they were.

Speaker 1 (23:16):
Just not into it. What do you think, Kimpie? I
don't know, because I know I'm not in that five percent,
but of course I'm not that age demo either, But
I do see younger people, and I maybe yes, with
the with the phones and the easy access, Yeah, people
are going to catch it a little bit, you know,

(23:37):
and they're going to replay it because they want that
viral moment. They want to be the reason that something
went viral. I don't know if it's you know, because
they're drinking less or not. Yeah, I don't know if
the soberness has anything to do with it. I know
plenty of sober people at magic shows. They're like, look
at the magic. It's amazing. So I don't know if
sober makes you more aware. I know biologically that is true, Yeah,

(24:00):
but I know plenty of sober people that fall for
a bunch of stupid stuff.

Speaker 9 (24:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (24:03):
And if you're caught up in the moment in the atmosphere,
come on a lot and go on, go past pickle martini.
You're like, yeah, it's amazing. All right. We got to
take a break. We got tickets to see corn, not
just any old pair pit tickets. We got news quickies
when we come back.

Speaker 2 (24:19):
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(25:06):
news that just makes you say, what the Here's Corbyn
Gimpian Lindsay with what's going on news quakies from the
Big nine Morning Show.

Speaker 9 (25:12):
In ninety seventy five, court rules man can't be charged
with dui because he chugged entire bottle after getting pulled over.
This happens in South Korea, where a man who's sixty
years old was cleared of his drunk driving charges after
the court stated that it would be impossible to determine

(25:34):
if he had been over the legal limit while driving.
The man had been stopped by police round eleven thirty
pm on September seventeenth, after he was suspected of driving
under the influence. But he was like, you think I'm drunk,
I'll show you drunk. He chugged a bottle of soju,
which is a liquor compared to a weaker vodka and

(25:56):
it took him thirty nine seconds to get it all
down before police could test him. So police waited and
tested the man forty minutes after the initial traffic stopped,
and based on this, the man was suspected of having
a blood alcohol content percentage of zero point one two
eight and in South Korea, drivers with that with a

(26:19):
percentage over point oh three can be punished and those
over point oh seven can have their license revoked. But
the court ruled that the evidence was not strong enough
to determine if he had been drunk while driving.

Speaker 1 (26:33):
Yeah, that makes sense. There's no way to know what
it was before he chugged the alcohol suspected. Yes, you
could tell you. Yeah, huh. That's a wild game to play.

Speaker 4 (26:42):
Yeah, crazy way to get off on the charges.

Speaker 1 (26:45):
You're definitely getting public intox yeah, oh yeah, for sure,
public public consumption. I don't know if that's a thing. Yeah,
DWY driving while intoxicated. But maybe right, they don't know
if he was drunk before. Yeah, that's the loophole. Yeah,
it's all it's suspected at that time. Yeah. Wow, that's

(27:08):
a wild game to play. Man worked out for him though,
that's like people that are what do they call him?
With a go film in public places and try to
get you know, like a dare you to arrest me?
And you're like, okay, that's a wild game to play.
Who wants to deal with that? Are all those people assholes? Like?

(27:30):
Come on, man? Uber driver punched his elderly passenger over
leg room dispute. Now when I when I read the headline,
at first, I read it as lagoon, and I thought
they were fighting over like peanuts and beans and stuff. Okay,
but no, it's over leg room. Which lagoon would you
feel like is a warranted fight over? Because I don't

(27:50):
know if I have enough? The only one I probably
would fight over is black eyed peas for or against again,
who can't like yeah, yeah, yeah, how would you? I
would fight you just for standing your ground on him?
Oh honey, roasted peanuts pretty good?

Speaker 4 (28:06):
That is true.

Speaker 1 (28:07):
So if I'm gonna fight over a lagoon, it's probably
gonna be that for sure.

Speaker 9 (28:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (28:12):
Beans just aren't worth fighting notes, I don't think now. Peanuts,
on the other hand, peanuts nuts in hell. So this
comes out of Texas, of course, Texas where this elderly guy,
he's sixty eight, his name is Suleiman. So him and
his wife they just travel by Uber. They need to
get somewhere. They call this Uber driver up. The Uber

(28:34):
driver shows up, so they're like all right, they go
and they get their old asses in the back of
this car. For two and a half minutes, the car
just sat there, so Suliman's getting a little uncomfortable. He says,
there's not enough leg room back here, and he complains
to the Uber driver and the next thing you know,
the Uber driver cancels Suleiman's ride and tells him to

(28:59):
get the hell out of the car. And Suleiman's like what,
you just canceled my ride? Why? And he gets out
of the car. And then that's when the Uber driver
gets out of the car, punches him in the back
of the head, knocks him down to the ground and
stands over. I'm like, now what, bitch? And yeah, So
Suleiman's wife is like, I'm calling the police, So she

(29:20):
calls the police. The Uber driver gets the hell out
of there before the police actually show up. They gave
their reports. They filed a complaint with Uber, and Uber
says this behavior is unacceptable. Violence of any kind is
not tolerated On the Uber platform, and we expect all
users to treat each other with respect. We have been

(29:42):
in touch with the rider and have removed the driver's
access to the platform, so Uber driver doesn't have any
job anymore. But I think police are still looking for
the idea that I've never legas. She's never an issue
with me.

Speaker 4 (29:57):
No, And I'm trying to think.

Speaker 9 (29:58):
I think most the time when I get in an Uber,
the driver will say do you have enough legroom back there?

Speaker 4 (30:06):
Are you comfortable?

Speaker 2 (30:07):
You know?

Speaker 9 (30:09):
And that would be one of those situations where if
I didn't, I would either switch seats with the other
person because maybe I'm assuming maybe he was sitting behind
the driver, and maybe the driver himself was a bigger
individual and didn't couldn't, you know, move his seat more forward.
So in that instance I would have said, we why

(30:29):
don't you switch spots with your partner in the back
seat there so you'll have more leg room, or just
give him a batter review.

Speaker 1 (30:39):
Right, well, this is my ride, right, this is my
gill I want to die on. This is a fantastic story.
Survivor of rare rapid aging disease dies at the age
of twenty eight. They sent you the links, you guys
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(31:00):
The longest living survivor of the rare genetic disease progeria crugeria,
has died at the age of twenty eight, according to
the Italian Progeria Association, Sammy Basso was diagnosed with progeria
at two years old. He and his parents established the
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(31:25):
with his parents and best friend Ricardo through Root sixty
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makes those diagnosed look older, with a decreased quality of
life and shorter life expectancy. Benjamin Button, what twenty eight

(31:48):
years old? Yeah, and he does not look twenty eight.
He looks like he's got he wants the ring you
have in your pocket. All right, we got to take
a break. We'll be back.

Speaker 2 (32:01):
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Speaker 1 (32:18):
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KMOD can also text BMMS and then what you want
to say to eight two, nine, four five See what
Lindsay has for Balls to the Wall Sports.

Speaker 9 (32:44):
The Minnesota Vikings remain undefeated after holding off the Jets
twenty three to seventeen in London. Sam Darnold completed fourteen
of thirty one pass attempts against his former team for
one hundred and seventy nine yards and an interception.

Speaker 4 (33:00):
Soda is now five and oh.

Speaker 9 (33:02):
Aaron Rodgers completed twenty nine of fifty four for two
hundred and forty four yards and two touchdowns, but was
also intercepted three times. You're at Wilson and Alan Lazzard
each caught a touchdown pass and New York dropped it
two and three.

Speaker 1 (33:18):
Did you see Aaron Rodgers crawling on the field? Uh,
because he got hurt and he was like crawling. Do
you think the biggest surprise to Aaron Rodgers when they
went to that game in London is that the earth
isn't flat. He's he is not the same quarterback. Everybody's
like He's gonna be the MVP this year. I don't
think so. I mean, he could still redeem himself the
rest of the season, but him and his receivers do

(33:39):
not look like they're on the same page. No, And
everybody's like, oh, DeVante Adams is going to go from
the Raiders back to be with Aaron in New York. Maybe,
but Davante's still out for two more weeks, right right.

Speaker 9 (33:52):
And when he said he was like, it was very
unlike me to throw interceptions. It's not my character. No,
it's not because you're old, and.

Speaker 1 (34:02):
It's I don't I don't like when quarterbacks say that
that happens interceptions they just do, right, You just try
not to have mall happen at once. Yeah, right, right.
Minnesota looks so good. Yeah, they look scary, gazingly. Yeah.
I think they're the ones to look out for this year.
To be honest with you, I know it's still early,
but yeah, come a man. Yeah, very few teams that

(34:23):
go undefeated end up going all the way. Right.

Speaker 9 (34:26):
Caleb Williams looked good yesterday too. He had the best
performance of his career so far as a Chicago Bear,
beating the Carolina Panthers thirty six to ten at Soldier Field.
The rookie QB was twenty for twenty nine with three
hundred and four yards and two touchdowns. Wide receiver DJ
Moore had five receptions for one hundred and five yards,
catching both of Williams's touchdown passes. The Bears have won

(34:49):
back to back games now and are three and two.
Running Back Chubba how Hubbard had a solid performance for
the Panthers and the loss. He picked up ninety seven
yards on thirteen Harry's and scored one touchdown.

Speaker 4 (35:02):
Carolina is one in four. Uh, let's see the cards.

Speaker 9 (35:07):
The Cardinals shut out the forty nine ers in the
second half as they rallied for twenty four to twenty
three win in the NFC West clash at Levi Stadium.

Speaker 4 (35:15):
O this man, I thought you had it.

Speaker 1 (35:21):
I never thought they had it. Really, No, right up now,
and it's just let me give you the ball. Then
what's your take on it? Get piece cents? That's your team.
It was a horrible game. Nobody was matching up. I
you had some good catches. Okay, finally he showed up.
We had not seen him show up yet the season
since he signed that deal. Yeah, and then you got

(35:41):
old old Wan Jennings. I know it's ju one, but
it's spelled one. So Wan Jennings, you know he had
his uh, his finger was all messed up. He's like,
I don't know if I could play. But he finally
got in and distant and Brock he's just throwing my
crap now man, I'm like, okay, well, here's the deal.
In my opinion, if we don't win Thursday night, there's

(36:04):
our season's done. I don't know if it's ready. I
don't know if you just jump ship just yet. I'm
just I'm not jumping ship so far as like being
a fan. No, no, no, no, And I know it's early.
It's early. Anything can happen. We should not worry about it.
It's just it don't look good. No, it doesn't. The
conversation of Brock Pertty being a top ten quarterback, I
don't know if that's accurre anymore. What happened, Yeah, that happened.

(36:25):
I mean multiple things can be happening. Surely, surely all
this isn't coming because we don't have McCaffrey, right, absolutely,
it is. He is the X fact, Like, come on,
like he has to be there for you guys to
play good. Come on. Van Pell had a really good take.
I think it was Van Pell. If he if he
holds on that run that he had twenty yards down

(36:46):
the field the running back. Yeah, yeah, if it's McCaffrey,
that's a touchdown easy. I mean, that's an easy way
to say that because he's not in the game, right,
But they're just different types of running backs. You can
tell that it's affecting him. I didn't think think that
we needed him. But you know, that's the only thing
that I could think of right now, is why we're
playing like hot garbage, because I mean, we had some

(37:07):
injuries in the beginning. You know, at one point time,
there's like three four people down. Well, we got Kiddle back,
we got de Bo back, we got God and then
to just and it ain't making it, you know, but
we're we're out Elijah Mitchell right now, We're out McCaffrey,
you know. So we got two good backs back there
that are playing. And I'm not thinking against Mason. He's

(37:29):
a solid he's a solid player, man. But that's the
only thing I can think of as to why we're
hot garbage. Right There's this other thing that I'm a
I'm a big AVA court advocate for I think I
said it regarding quarterbacks, but kickers should be involved in
this too. Don't go tackle anybody. You're not a tackler
because that's how you get injured, and then you can't
kickfield goals. Yeah, take Moody and now we're back over
with Wishnowski, who is our punter. You know, did you

(37:53):
see him practice? He was kidding. You're like, dude, good
for you man, get your mall, have your spotlight. But
I think it's not fair, like I'm picking on pretty
not being a top ten quarterback, but it's that is
the hardest position to play in football, oh for sure,
at that level. Absolutely, And so maybe they're trying different

(38:13):
schemes or whatever, and he's trying to fight. It's a
different call sheet if McCaffrey's not in, Right, they had
their identity when mcaffrey's in and the call sheet and everything,
and it worked really well. When it's not there, it
feels like they're still trying to figure out what that
call sheet is. I you can't been performing, so they're
still trying to figure out what plays worked for him. Yeah. Yeah,
it's just not a very good start to the season.
I'm hoping that week could pick it up, But like

(38:35):
I said, I think if we lose on Thursday, least
in my eyes. I'm like, I don't think we're gonna
go We're not going to be Super Bowl contenders like
we were last year. Yeah, I don't know, man, I
think again, November December is what counts. Yeah. This is
the time when you bet you bank wins for home
field advantage and things like that. But November December is
what matters.

Speaker 9 (38:53):
Yeah, They've gotta stay healthy. Yeah, and that's your balls
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Speaker 1 (39:42):
Good morning, gimpee, Well, good morning Corbin. Now that eleven
days of awesomeness has passed us, the next best thing
to look forward to is Octoberfest. It's going on the
seventeenth through the twentieth of this month, and you can
get all the details at Tulsa Octoberfest dot org. Best
and Worst of the weekend? What's the best thing that
happened this weekend? And the worst thing that happened this weekend?

(40:05):
Bmms and whatever that is to eight two, nine four five,
or you can call it nine and eight four six,
Oh kmode lindsay what's the best and what's the worst
of the weekend?

Speaker 4 (40:15):
Saturday night was probably the best.

Speaker 9 (40:17):
Me and the kids and some friends went out to
the Haunted Plantation in Kowita and it was It was frightening.
It was a lot of fun. We hadn't done the
Haunted Trail last year, and this year we did it.
They call it the Butcher's Boulevard, and it was full
of so many damn jump scares. There was a couple
of times where I thought, oh I would have a

(40:42):
heart attack. I was scared that well. I love a
good jump scare, and they provided it. And then the
zombie rampage. Get on this giant bus and you have
paintball guns and you're shooting targets throughout the woods. And
zombies and it gives off like resident evil vibes to me.

(41:05):
I forget which one which number of the movie. They're
in a big actual bus, but that's the feeling I get.
Plays good music during it's a really good time.

Speaker 4 (41:15):
The worst part of the weekend.

Speaker 9 (41:17):
On Friday, came home to a letter on my house
from our HOA, a friendly reminder to mow.

Speaker 4 (41:27):
And water are flower beds and flower beds Like.

Speaker 9 (41:34):
Maybe it was on a lot of doorsteps, I don't know,
but it felt like, I'm like, our lawn isn't even
that long.

Speaker 4 (41:41):
Sure, our flower beds are looking a little sad, like
they could use some extra water.

Speaker 9 (41:46):
But for the most part, I do maintain them and
water them a lot, that's true, but they are in
direct sunlight all day long, so sometimes it gets hard
to keep up with and our lawn. I was like,
wait a minute, there are other lawns in this neighborhood
that are much longer than mine. Mine probably could go

(42:07):
another week without needing to be mode.

Speaker 4 (42:10):
But we got it done.

Speaker 1 (42:13):
So the worst party the weekend was a notice from
the HOA.

Speaker 4 (42:15):
I felt like I was being targeted by them.

Speaker 1 (42:19):
Do you have a neighborhood Facebook page. Yes, did you
see if maybe? Oh you're not? Why not? That feels
like totally your wheelhouse.

Speaker 9 (42:28):
Yeah, I don't know why I haven't joined it yet,
especially for the gassip right, Yeah, just haven't huh.

Speaker 1 (42:35):
Best and worst of the weekend? What's the best part
of the weekend and the worst part of the weekend.
I'm when eight four six h came Odor you can
text bmms and whatever that is to eight two nine
four five. Gimbi what's the best and what's the worst?
Best part of the weekend? I did two things this
weekend upon Lindsay's recommendation. The first one was the Haunted
Plantation out in Koweita. Me and the crew, a bunch

(42:57):
of friends got together adults on no kids. It was
awesome because last week she was like, it's the best
she was raving about it. Yeah, it was pretty solid. Yeah,
she just went on and on about it. So I'm
not going to drone on and on about it either.
But it was a great time. We all had a blast.
My brother got to drive the bus that giant Brice
that she was talking about. Yeah, I don't know how

(43:20):
he convinced the guy. Yeah, that seems incredibly liable. He
did so good for him, and it was like, maybe
he's a pretty charming dude, so I could see that
happening here. He like it was like from it, Like
I said, it was like maybe one hundred feet or
more to the end, but unless you still got to
do it, that was pretty cool. Good for him, Good
for him. The other thing I did was she recommended

(43:41):
a movie, a movie that Lindsay recommended that I watched,
and I was like, this is pretty awesome. Write this down,
no King finally off. The movie is called The Bike
Riders and it's a new biker movie with Tom I'm
Hardy in it, and it's got Norman Ritas in it

(44:03):
as well, and it's about you know, back in the
day in the fifties, you know this cat Tom Hardy
plays Johnny I think his name decides. This starts an MC,
a motorcycle club, and it's how he built it up
in the Rise and Fall of Johnny. It's a good movie.
I've never paid for a movie on Amazon Prime before,

(44:24):
but I was like, you know what, it's only six bucks,
so let's go ahead and do it. So I did,
and die thoroughly enjoyed it. So if you if you
haven't watched it all. It came out. It's like last
year or something like it. Julian of this year, June
this year. Yet it's called The Bike Riders. It's a
pretty solid movie if you're into that sort of thing.

(44:45):
Definitely worth the watch, very entertaining all the way up
to the very end. Apparently based off a book. Yeah, yeah,
I guess this reporter followed you know this, this biker
group or whatever, and finally put his work in the art.
Well last worst part of the weekend. I don't think
I've seen a Tom Hardy movie that's not good. You're

(45:07):
probably right. You're probably right. Maybe I can find something.
But everything I've seen him and it's it's he's a
solid actor. Man. I'm glad to hear that, because everything
I read about Jokers, the sequel for The Joker is
straight up heart guar hot garbage, like it might. Did
you know it's a musical.

Speaker 4 (45:24):
Oh yeah, I didn't know that because of Lady Gaga
being in it.

Speaker 1 (45:28):
No, that was that's because of it. But okay, it's
a musical that makes me not want to see Dude.
It's got like one of the lowest scores ever in
Rotten Tomatoes. Really, by the way, the first one's okay.
I wouldn't put it it's okay, it's fine. I wouldn't
say it's a in the franchise of all that. It

(45:49):
isn't great. But that's why I watched the first one
so I can watch this other one when it comes out, right, Well,
I don't know, I won't listen. I'm full of crap.
I'm just saying, according to stuff online and Rotten Tomatoes,
it ain't good.

Speaker 4 (46:01):
Okay, Mama Mia meets this Joker.

Speaker 1 (46:06):
I mean, Joaquin Phoenix can walk the line as a
musical essentially, and it's solid that makes sense to be
a musical though it's about a ton of cash. Hell
is a Joker got anything to do with the music industry,
I don't know. I just know there's a lot of
songs in it, and people are like, why are they
singing in the Joker? Because he's happy and people want

(46:28):
to sing when they're happy. He's admitted somebody with a
mental disorder. Maybe that's another reason why he's singing today. True,
So it's so funny when we do things and the
texta come in right away. The Joker was so bad
multiple exclamation marks. Yes, now I know they're serious. Best
and worst of the weekend. What's the best part of
the weekend and the worst part of the weekend. Best

(46:49):
part of the weekend for me would be that we
did family pictures on Friday, and that's always fun, just
to like, I don't know, i'd use I have a
couple things that happened in my life that I kind
of check the box of time passing and doing those
and thinking of the lady that does our photographs. She's
done the kids since they were babies, like she did
them when we brought them home, and so to see

(47:11):
her and think about the evolution of all that, So
that was pretty awesome. And then the worst part of
the weekend is my two kids have been sick, my
wife has been sick, and now I think I'm starting
to get it. So it's working its round. So finally
something about your house, man, is September, Dude, September is
the worst. I don't know, man, it seems like ever
since you moved into that place, it's always been No,

(47:33):
it's just a missive sort No, No, it's just September.
It's September three. Yeah, that's your September Surprise, Yes, best
and worst of the weekend. This text came in and
said Best, my band Soul Shaker had an awesome show
for our first debut, our first debut show at River Spirit.
Thanks to everybody that came out. Worst. I slept in
way too long and didn't get anything done yesterday. No

(47:56):
One best plantation. Worst Today is day number eight of
a thirteen day work week. That sounds horrible. Best or
worst part of my weekend was the new Teemy air compressor.
Timey air compressor. I got need, I got needs a
new pressure regulator. Best new to me air compressor. That's

(48:17):
the translation new, thank you, quality, pre owned, new to
this person. Okay, I thought, yeah, yeah, that's not a
brand or anything. Now yeah I thought I was French.
Best part I finally got an air compressor to help
with me my with my card detailing on the side.
Best was relaxing on the porch with a few beers
Saturday night. Worst. I went to the er last night

(48:37):
with blood pressure two thirty over one sixty. I'm still
here in the hospital listening to you all. Yo. What
a two thirty over one sixty? What what does that mean?

Speaker 4 (48:50):
From a couple of beers.

Speaker 1 (48:52):
Close to stroke, isn't it? I don't know from sitting
on your porch. Yeah, this is uniqu is dangerously higher
and you need an immediate medical attention. That is stroke
level according to a Google Yeah, that doesn't It can
lead to a heart attack. So so what happens? Are
you just on like a beep beep beep? They're just

(49:13):
waiting for like we're just waiting for the other shoes
to drop right another Best somehow ended up in the
sound booth at the fair for hinder, singing my heart
out to lips of an angel. Worst, my upstairs neighbors
toilet started leaking through my ceiling, got in the cabinet
and halfway flooded my bathroom. My bathroom still smells like

(49:35):
a toilet even after bleach. I'm moving. Yeah, it's time
to move after that feels warranted to break your lease?

Speaker 4 (49:43):
Absolutely not the.

Speaker 1 (49:44):
First time this person has had plumbing issues in that apartment,
So get out. Best bought a brisket on sale super
cheap and smoked it super good. Worst wife picked the
movie Nandor Fodor and the Talk Mongoose for us to
watch Saturday night. Huh. Her movie picking skills have been

(50:05):
suspended for the time being. Good luck with that. Mama
wants to watch Nandor Mom's gonna watch Nandor.

Speaker 4 (50:12):
Never even heard of it?

Speaker 1 (50:13):
I have not either, Simon Peg So okay, Mini Driver
Christopher Lloyd. I can't think of a movie Christopher Lloyd's
been in lately that I'm like, that's a good movie.
It's been since the eighties. Uh. Famous paranormal psychologist doctor
Nandor Phodor investigates a family's claim that a talking mongoose

(50:35):
lives in their barn. He uncovers a mysterious web of
hidden motive. Soon everyone becomes a suspect in this relentless
pursuit of the truth. Yeah, I'm good with the statement.
Any movie that involves a mongoose, I'm out yep. I
have no reason. Early, I can't think of the reason

(50:55):
to watch a movie with a mongoose. I can't think
of any movies with a mongoose besides this one. Now, Okay,
I gotta look mongoose movies, animated movies that have a mongoose.
Uh watching a movie as a kid. I'm just looking here.

(51:18):
T Rex Lamb before Time, Fox and Hound. Okay, So
there are some right there. The mongoose is never a
special appearance. Yeah, that's never the main character. Yeah, I
am not. I'm pretty good. Snake in Mongoose is a movie,
a drag racing movie. Apparently you know that feels different

(51:40):
titled Mongoose doesn't, but I'm going with has mongoose in It.

Speaker 4 (51:45):
Was Timoon from The Lion King of Mongoose.

Speaker 1 (51:48):
No clue. No, he was a mere catch. Ah yes,
ah again, nothing against the mongoose. I'm sure mongooses are great, yeah,
for sure. Worse ten year old, one hundred dollars washer
finally went out. Best a couple months ago. A neighbor
was setting his dishwasher and dryer out on a curb

(52:09):
and told us the dryer was messed up, but washer
worked great, So we took the washer stored it for
this moment. Even worse found out the neighbor is an
effing liar. All good now, though, dude, you picked up
a ten dollars and you're like, he's a liar. I
don't know it lasted ten years. You held onto a
washer dryer for ten years, so you'd be like, Aha,

(52:30):
that's wild man. Best of the Weekend caught up on sleep.
Where's the weekends left through it? Uh no, no, not
a beat beep thing. Waiting to do an MRI this
morning to confirm a stroke or not. Blood pressure slowly
coming down. So two thirty over one sixty. They're like, yeah,
we'll get to you monday. The doctors are out right now.

(52:51):
We have the best medical care. Yeah, we're gonna have
to wait till month. How serious is it?

Speaker 4 (52:57):
Right?

Speaker 1 (52:58):
Dangerously? Sounds immediate it, yes, But what do I know?
Ricky Ticky Tavy was a pretty cool movie with the
mongoose Apparently I don't know them. That came in multiple
times from different people. Ricky Ticky Tavvy. I've heard of
this book. I think it was read to me as

(53:18):
a child, But I don't know about the movie. Apparently
it's on Amazon Prime. It's a short apparent. Okay, I
am not going to be renting that. Of the people
coming out to defend Ricky Ticky Tavy, settle down, it's mongooses.

Speaker 6 (53:33):
Who cares?

Speaker 1 (53:34):
Sort of it being a biker a drag race, I'm
not interested. All right, we got to take a break.
Pit tickets for corn we're gonna give away tell.

Speaker 2 (53:42):
USA's Morning show is coming right.

Speaker 1 (53:44):
Back the show. Good morning, It's the Big Mad Morning Show,
KMO D nine one eight four six, Oh KMO D.

(54:07):
Let's play a little game because we've got pit tickets
to see Korn. Korn's gonna be at the Bok Center
on October twenty third. Hit Bokcenter dot com to get
your tickets or try to win them right now, and
we're gonna play a new game. We tried it last week.
I think I've made it. I think I've made it

(54:27):
harder for this week. Uh so we'll see. We call
this flick off. I will give you three movie quotes.
You got to get at least two right to win
the tickets. Nine one eight four six oh KMOD nine
one eight four six oh KMOD. Go to the phones here,
Good morning, you're on the air. What is your name?

Speaker 10 (54:48):
Jesse?

Speaker 1 (54:49):
Jesse? How are you today? All right? Are you good man? Jesse?
How would you say your movie skills? Are you big
movie fan?

Speaker 8 (54:58):
Not?

Speaker 1 (54:58):
Really? Well? Yeah, we'll see. You got to get at
least two of these right to win the pit tickets
to see Corn. Okay, all right, here's your first quote. Houston,
we have a problem. Thirteen Apollo thirteen excellent job. That's one.

(55:21):
You only need one more to get them, right. I'm right.
Here's the second one. I'm walking here, I'm walking here.
I don't know I'm walking here. I'm walking here. What

(55:41):
movie do you think that's from?

Speaker 11 (55:49):
I have no idea.

Speaker 1 (55:50):
Take a guess, man, at least you have a guess
in there. You don't want to just say nothing. What's that?

Speaker 11 (55:56):
It's a wonderful life.

Speaker 1 (55:58):
It's a wonderful life that is in erect Last one.
I think this is a tea up, Jesse. I think
you got this with this one. You're ready. Yeah, they're here,
they're here. What movie is that from? You need this

(56:18):
one to get the pit tickets to see Corn, The
Exist The Exorcist. Final answer, Yeah, incorrect, man, I'm sorry. Sorry,
you're not getting those tickets. Man, thanks for playing you guys,
won't take yes, the last one is it's the second

(56:39):
one that's thrown me off. Second one, Midnight Cowboy? Was
the movie Midnight Cowboy seen? And the last one Poulter geys. Yeah, yeah,
that's it. So Jesse's not getting those tickets. We'll put
him back in the pot. Pit tickets for Corn. We
gotta take a breakn't forget Jeff Fins. He's going to
join us at nine. You got a question, family law, divorce, custody, guardianship,

(57:02):
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Oh k M O D. Let's see what Gimpie has
in his four x four the God. It says here
that Milton strengthens in the Category one hurricane as the
tracks towards Florida. The storm, which formed into Gulf of

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Mexico on Saturday, rapidly strengthened, with top winds now estimated
at ninety miles an hour. Forecasters expect the hurricane, which
comes less than two weeks after Hurricane Haleene just wrecked everything.
I says it's gonna be here by Wednesday afternoon. The
latest update puts the storm about seven hundred and fifty

(58:26):
miles southwest of Tampa. Governor DeSantis has declared a state
emergency in dozens of counties, and FEMA is surging supplies
and equipment into the states. I learned a phrase that
I didn't know existed when it came to hurricanes. We've
all heard of evacuations. Yeah, and there's something called shadow evacuations. Okay,
where you evacuate, but you don't really evacuate. You don't

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need to, like you are just scared, you don't need to,
you're not in direct path, and that you take up
resources of people who need to get out. Ah, that
feels real subjective, right, if you're in bear, get the
hell out of there. Why take a chance? Like where's
the line of heating the like? Ah, you're kind, you
should you should be fine. If you don't feel safe

(59:11):
in your home.

Speaker 4 (59:13):
Leave exactly.

Speaker 1 (59:15):
That makes sense. And if you require electricity for your
medical needs, leave right right right, better safe than sorry, exactly,
And that there are certain homes that you should be
okay in, But even then they can be wrong. They
only know that level of security on a home during
a hurricane because of the other mistakes right right and

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this's supposed to be a milestone hurricane massive. They're saying, yeah,
change some things. Huh okay, they're saying it's gonna be
pretty catastrophic, which means for the rest of US, our
insurance rates are going up.

Speaker 11 (59:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (59:53):
I think they should have insurance should be based on
the state, so like Florida shad their own insurance that way.
If you want to be an insurance company in that state,
go ahead. But why am I paying a higher rate
for that type of thing when it happens there all
the time? It's not my job to carry the weight
to them.

Speaker 4 (01:00:06):
We don't get hurricanes here, no, but we.

Speaker 1 (01:00:08):
Should have a higher rate because of tornadoes, right, the
golden hurricanes. Eh, moving forward, else we got. Supreme Court
starts its new term. It's guns, pornography, and transgender rights
on the docket at the US Supreme Court, which starts today.
The High Court will be looking at several cases, including
the constitutionality of a Tennessee law that bans gender firming

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care for minors. The case will have implications for similar
laws passed by Republican led state legislatures around the country,
and this week the court will also consider whether old
JB's administration has the authority to crack down on so
called ghost guns, the homemade firearms that are difficult to trace,
and then later in the term, the court will take
up a challenge to a Texas law that requires pornographic

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websites to verify the ages of its users. How do
you feel about that, lindsay, verifying ages porn sites? Definitely
here for it. Yeah, okay, gimb It doesn't matter because
kids are just gonna be Yes, I'm eighteen, click, I've
done that. How about you? What are you think about that? Yeah?
I think that that's fine. Nothing wrong with having a little,

(01:01:15):
you know, security measure. But those that really want it
will bypass it. Sure, that doesn't mean don't do it though, right,
I'm not of the mindset of like, just because someone
can bypass it doesn't mean you shouldn't do it if
it stops some people, okay, right, Yeah, kids are gonna
find it anyways, the ones that really want to. What
else we got here? Emirates Airline bands walkentuckies and pagers

(01:01:35):
after Lebanon attacks. The airline announced the new policy on
Friday and said that flights to and from be roots
Lebanon's Capital will be canceled until October fifteenth. This comes
after pagers and walkie talkie's belonging to the Lebanese militant
group husible Lah exploded last month that killed dozens. Emirates,

(01:01:56):
the region's largest airline, is also postponing flights out of
a Round and a Rock until today. As a matter
of fact, October seventh, several other airlines have also suspended
flights to Beirut and other regional airports amid heightened tensions
in the Middle East. I'm curious, could they make phone
like bipass, like you can't have your phone on a

(01:02:18):
plane at all? I mean, it's their airline. They can
make up whatever rules. And if that's one of the
rules that no, well they can. Yeah, But I'm talking
like you would think they would have security measures of
screening electronics beforehand, right right, never was an issue until then.
Nobody thought about putting explosive pages in your pocket. There
was underwear exploding, but right right, and what else we
got here? Lastly, registration now opened for Tulsa's class on

(01:02:40):
Enhancing Neighborhoods. The City of Tulsa's hosting a class targeted
at residents who want to improve their neighborhoods, make them
look less trashy like Lindsay's House. Yeah, Tall Grass and
the Neighborhood Academy is a program designed to equip residents
with the knowledge to make effective changes and partner with
the City of tots For Registration for the classes now

(01:03:02):
open and you can join it closes. The window to
close to join is October nineteenth. To learn more and register,
just go to cityof Tulsa dot org.

Speaker 9 (01:03:24):
The Giants looked pretty good knocked off the Seahawks in
an NFC matchup in Seattle. New York defeated Seattle twenty
nine to twenty. Daniel Jones completed twenty three to thirty
four passes for two hundred and fifty seven yards and
two touchdowns, while adding another thirty eight yards on the ground.
Tyrone Tracy Junior had eighteen carries for one hundred and
twenty nine yards, and Darius s Layton finished with eight

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catches for one hundred and twenty two yards and a touchdown.
Dexter Lawrence the Second totaled three sacks to lead a
New York defense that finished the game with seven. The
Giants remained last in the NFC East at two and three.
Gino Smith went he ate a forty for two hundred
and eighty four yards and a touchdown in a losing effort.
He also had four carries for seventy two yards, while
Tyler Lockett had four receptions for seventy five yards. The

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Seahawks have lost two in a row now but remain
atop the NFC West at three and two.

Speaker 1 (01:04:15):
I saw a crazy stat through five games, there's been
something like seventy two field goals of five fifty plus yards,
and like ten years ago the number was five. Wow,
So people are kicking, we can kick longer. And there's
also been more blocked field goals yeah yeah than ever,
which was a factor in that game.

Speaker 6 (01:04:34):
Uh huh.

Speaker 9 (01:04:35):
And the Ravens took down the Bengals forty one to
thirty eight and overtime thriller in Cincinnati. The Ravens down
thirty eight to thirty five with three h five left
in the game, Joe Burrow was intercepted by Baltimore's Marlon Humphrey.
Justin Tucker proceeded to tie the game with a fifty
six yard field goal. Baltimore got the ball first in
overtime but quarterback Lamar Jackson fumbled it to Cincinnati Evan

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McPherson and missed a fifty three yard field goal to
give the Ravens another opportunity, and Tucker knocked in a
game winning twenty four yard field goal. They are some
of the Bengals are supposed to be Super Bowl contenders.

Speaker 1 (01:05:14):
They aren't anymore. They're the best one in four team
for sure. I mean they you are your record though, right,
Bill Parcel said that you are your record. One and
four ain't good, but they are. They are a talented team,
the best of the worst. They just can't get it together.
They just can't get it together at all. That was
an I thought that was a really crazy game.

Speaker 4 (01:05:35):
Yeah, they're out there. They look like newbies together.

Speaker 1 (01:05:39):
Yeah, but again, you're taking on Derrick Henry and Lamar Jackson.
Which Derek Henry is a He's now in an elite
company of rushers in the NFL, and he is a stud.
He is flourishing in Baltimore. They're going to be a
problem for a lot of people.

Speaker 4 (01:05:54):
But also, though Jamar Chase is a stud, not this year.

Speaker 1 (01:05:57):
Yeah, not like Derrick Henry.

Speaker 4 (01:05:59):
Joe bro supposed to be a stud.

Speaker 1 (01:06:01):
Yeah, they're not getting the day. Are not on the
same page.

Speaker 4 (01:06:05):
And that's your Balls to the Wall Sports. I'm Lindsay
at ninety seventy five.

Speaker 1 (01:06:20):
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Speaker 1 (01:06:49):
Good morning, Gimbee. Well, good morning Corvin. Oh you football
is back this weekend as they take on Texas. Your
pregame with Chris Blank starts at eleven thirty. Kickoff is
at two thirty. Always stream its on the iheartradiot. Our
listeners are awesome. We like to chat with our listeners
and they share a part of their story with us.
And on the line with this right now is Stephanie. Hey, Stephanie,

(01:07:11):
how are you?

Speaker 10 (01:07:13):
I'm good?

Speaker 11 (01:07:13):
How are you?

Speaker 1 (01:07:14):
I'm good? Uh, Stephanie. It says you've been married eighteen years.
Today is your anniversary. How many years you've been married? Eighteen?
Oh right, Yeah, that happens sometimes. And how did you
meet your husband?

Speaker 10 (01:07:29):
We met at church when I was fifteen, he was seventeen.
Oh long, long time.

Speaker 1 (01:07:34):
Wow. So when he was eighteen, how did you guys
continue to date?

Speaker 10 (01:07:40):
Well, I mean it happens all the time.

Speaker 1 (01:07:43):
No, I'm just saying, because he's a he would be
an adult and you would be a minor at that point. Yeah.

Speaker 10 (01:07:49):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:07:50):
I don't know.

Speaker 10 (01:07:51):
I mean, I know in Oklahoma at sixteen, you're you know,
it's like consent, but never really thought too much about it.

Speaker 1 (01:07:58):
It's okay.

Speaker 4 (01:08:00):
Your parents just liked him, I know.

Speaker 10 (01:08:02):
Oh yeah, good, Oh yeah, our family's really close.

Speaker 1 (01:08:05):
Tell me what's great about him?

Speaker 10 (01:08:08):
Well, first of all, he is the most like loving
gentleman you've ever met, so very Yeah, he's just very,
very supportive. He's always always been there for me. He's hilarious,
so I love that he makes me laugh. He's he
likes doing good for others. So that was one of
the big things that always attracted me to him, even

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as a teenager, is that he would always you know,
volunteer for things and was just very giving.

Speaker 1 (01:08:34):
Ah, that those are all good things. It says you're
you have a daughter, but she's not very old compared
to being married eighteen years. Tell me about the journey
to have a kid fifteen years after you've been together.

Speaker 10 (01:08:47):
Yeah, so she's three and a half. So we tried
for about ten years to get her, and so she's
our little miracle baby. So I always said, if I,
you know, if we didn't have one by the time
I was thirty five, that we would go to ivy
up route and got pregnant at thirty five, so it
worked out.

Speaker 1 (01:09:04):
Well, yeah, that is that is a miracle. That's amazing.
What do you do for a living?

Speaker 10 (01:09:09):
I'm a therapist, So I currently am in the director
of a mobile crisis team. So it's it's a lot
of moving parts, but it's and we're in a lot
of counties in Oklahoma, so i'm over for kids, it's
fourteen counties and then for everything else it's seven counties.

Speaker 1 (01:09:26):
Helped me out what is a mobile crisis team? What
do they do?

Speaker 10 (01:09:31):
Memal Health Center and so we have a lot of
different moving parts to it. So there are some agencies
that just do one piece of it that we do
kind of all ages and then in all areas, so
I'm over If you've ever heard of nine to eight eight,
it's essentially nine to one one for mental health. And
so you know, nationwide you can dial ninety to eight

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and get crisis help. And so I'm over those teams
for seven counties in Oklahoma. So my team go out
in the field, you know, and do amazing work there.
And then for the kids side, we're contracted in fourteen counties,
and so I'm over all of those teams. And then
we also have crisis transport now, so law enforcement no

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longer is kind of burdened with having to just transport
people that are in a mental health crisis to an
impatient facility or to to an e or things like that.
So you know, they still occasionally will do pieces of that,
but we pretty much do all of the rest of
that for seven counties. And then I'm over all of
our therapists that actually do like the assessing and that

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kind of thing.

Speaker 1 (01:10:40):
We don't have enough time to go into it, but
I do want to hit briefly about mental health and
people's awareness of a mental health problem they're dealing with,
and your take on people's self regulation of their mental health,
just like.

Speaker 10 (01:10:57):
There are people's abilities to regulate those mental health.

Speaker 1 (01:10:59):
Yeah, I kind of wonder sometimes if people aren't even
aware they're dealing with a mental problem.

Speaker 10 (01:11:05):
Oh for sure. I mean I think self awareness is
no matter what problem you're dealing with. I've always said,
like the hardest part because we're on the autopilot most
of the time, and so no matter what behavior you're
trying to change, being aware of it in the moment
is the hardest part. Once you have that, you can
really start to make a lot of changes, but typically
we're reflecting on it after the fact, and so you know,

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once you're able to get that self awareness in the moment,
especially when mentally you're feeling very overwhelmed, I mean that's
why family, friends, even coworkers are super important in that process.
So you know, we all the time get family members
that are calling on behalf of someone else that's in
a crisis to get them help. But even if it's

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not something like that, I think just being aware and
asking people how they are is really really important in
stopping especially suicide.

Speaker 1 (01:11:56):
And what's the number of calls or times you deal
with people that are in a suicide situation? And maybe
they're not even aware of it, or you guys have
concern of somebody that is dealing with suicide. I just
want to try and touch on the suicide part of
mental health a little bit.

Speaker 10 (01:12:13):
Yeah, I mean it's it's of course multiple multiple calls
a day. So but you know, we're a large agency,
and so we also have our gent recovery centers that
that are staff accessed for and so I mean, you know,
on the mobile crisis side, I mean, you know, on
the on the kids, it's a little bit more difficult
because they might know they're struggling, but it might be

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this little counselor or a parent or guardian. Sometimes it
is just law enforcement that gets involved and kind of
recognizes that, hey, you know, you're you're not doing okay.
And then of course we have trained staff that can
talk to them. Even sadly as young as like five
six years old, we get calls on where they've maybe

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even attempted but they don't really know the vocabulary how
to ask for help yet or even how to identify
what they're feeling.

Speaker 1 (01:13:02):
And so.

Speaker 10 (01:13:03):
Yeah, just being being aware as again as a parent
and just the people in your community is really really
important and a lot of adults. Of course, if they're
in a mental health crisis, typically they know that, hey,
I want to die, you know that they're suicidal. But
a lot of times it's not knowing how to how
to ask for help, or whenever you do know how

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to ask for help, it's finding the words. So that's
what we're there for us to kind of help people
walk through those those really hard situations.

Speaker 1 (01:13:33):
I was glad to hear you use the words I
want to die because I think that sometimes when people
talk about mental health or suicide, we kind of dance
around some of the terms, the dark terms. And I
think that when people know that suicide's a real thing,
I believe the media sometimes leads us on to believe
that it's a very rare thing and it doesn't happen
when it happens quite frequently and you have really dark thoughts.

Speaker 10 (01:13:57):
Yeah, And I mean, I don't want to ever stigmatize
it either, because it is honestly fairly normal, especially if
you're going through something that's really really hard, and so
it's being able to recognize that and hopefully we can
catch it when it's in the more passive state of
maybe I just I don't want to wake up again,
but you're not actively, you know, wanting to make plans

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to end your own life, and so you know, hopefully
we can kind of stop it before it gets to
that point. But yeah, it's a very sadly common thing,
and I think people don't realize, especially how young people are,
when they can have those those thoughts and feelings.

Speaker 9 (01:14:34):
Stephanie, what do you think is the deterrent from people
that need help from calling the crisis helpline that nine
eight eight number so number one.

Speaker 10 (01:14:44):
I mean, it's getting the word out and even knowing
it's there. Right, ninety eight has only been around for
about two years, and so we're still really trying to market. Thankfully,
most schools now even have ninety D on the back
of their ID badges, so some people could even look
at their kids school badge and see that we have them,
you know, post it up everywhere. So even on oh gosh,

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is it one sixty nine? I think I always see
there's a ninety D eight, you know billboard, So I
love driving by that every day. So yeah, I think
it's getting the word out there that that help is available.
And then you know the fact that it's like we're
going to come to you so you don't have to,
because sometimes when you're feeling that way, it's like I
can't even get in the car and drive somewhere, right,

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or convincing your loved ones to get in the car
and drive somewhere it's hard. And so it's realizing there
are people that will come out to you where you
are and truly meet you where you are. And then
the other thing is the stigma. I mean, sadly we're
still fighting fighting that stigma of asking for for help
is hard. We all have pride, we all want to
think we can manage, you know, whatever going through or

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if it can feel very isolating, I mean, depression lies
to you, and so it it feels very very isolating
when you're in that What.

Speaker 9 (01:15:57):
If it's just a matter of someone being afraid to
call because they're afraid that they're going to get taken
away and get locked up, well, I mean, I you know.

Speaker 10 (01:16:06):
I would say to that that if they're if you're
truly at that that point, then you probably need to
help the most, right And so we are not in
the business of wanting to take people's freedoms away. I mean,
that's that's Honestly, one of the hardest things to have
to do is tell someone, especially if it's a if
it's a child, then you're you're tall also talking to
their parents their guardians about hey, you're you know, your

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kid might need to go in patient for a little while.
But I will say in Oklahoma, we're really moving towards
more of a urgent recovery center model, where it's shorter,
stays right. It's kind of get you the help that
you need, get you stable, and get you back home.
I mean, the goal is to keep everyone in the
community and not have to go to that place. But honestly,

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it's a it's a saving thing for a lot of
people because dealing with what you're going through while you're
also maybe trying to be a parent, while you're also
trying to work or go to school, sometimes that's just
impossible to do. And so you do need the little,
you know, three days or whatever it might be, to
kind of step away and take care of yourself.

Speaker 1 (01:17:12):
We're talking with Stephanie. Our listeners are awesome and she
works with a mobile as a mobile crisis director and
the being in service of others and helping them in
times in need. I think is maybe one of the
best callings in life, and you clearly are living into that.
And I'm guessing you had to have had a crisis
that called you into this.

Speaker 10 (01:17:34):
Yeah, So thankfully mine was never specifically mental health related.
But like most people that get into mental health, like
there's some sort of usually trauma or or just like
you said, a calling, you know, to get into it.
And so I was always very from a young age
interested in just people and stories and then psychology. And

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then when I was sixteen, I was in a car
accident and so that kind of very easily could have
gotten me off my path in life, you know, and
so I went I went through a pretty tough time
then and then just still continuing with with health issues
and of course just life. It was definitely a big

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motivator for me. I had a pretty a pretty bad
therapist at the time after I went through it, who
I was sixteen, and she had a dancing sunflower and
read me the Little Engine that Could. And so it
was one of those things of even at sixteen, realizing
this is not helping.

Speaker 1 (01:18:34):
That didn't work, that didn't work, didn't.

Speaker 8 (01:18:37):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (01:18:37):
So what you're saying in that you're saying when someone
calls with, you know, and they're in a dire situation,
you don't do the little engine that could to them.

Speaker 10 (01:18:46):
Yeah, no, not not best practical for sure.

Speaker 1 (01:18:49):
Tell me about the car accident at sixteen. What we
were were you going? What were you driving? Like? Give
me tell me what happened.

Speaker 10 (01:18:56):
So I was in grow up in Glimpoole, Sowed. Me
and two of my best friends, their stepsisters, were just
driving on a Monday to go get some clothes from
their house on a back road and the you know
back roads how they can be sometimes ral windy, And
there was this hill. We were going up the hill

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and I was sitting in the back seat. Well, we
went on to like the hill kind of veers to
the to the left when you're going in that direction,
and my friend went on the soft shoulder and then
just overcorrected and hit pretty much the only tree in
this giant field. And so it was kind of the
perfect storm of just being kind of all adding up together.

(01:19:37):
I mean, thankfully we were all wearing our seat belt,
but it did take the life of one of my
best friends, you know. And then I basically woke up
sitting on the window sill of the back seat, still
seat belted in with my let my right legs stuck
under the passenger seat, and the tree was kind of

(01:19:58):
right there, you know, on it. So thankfully, my my
best friend who's still she's basically my sister today, she survived.
She was the one driving. And then yeah, so we
we kind of have walked through that together. And yeah,
that's kind of the short, short part of the story.
The injury.

Speaker 1 (01:20:17):
Well, let's let's talk about that. For saying that, the
trauma of going through that event and losing a friend,
that's no easy feat to take on at sixteen.

Speaker 10 (01:20:27):
Yeah, I mean it it we thankfully, I will say
I always will have a love for that community. That
community rallied around us so hard. I mean it was
like homecoming week and they canceled homecom I mean it
was a it was a whole whole thing where I
never had probably fewer than fifteen people in the waiting room,
and I was in the hospital for months, and so

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that that was huge, you know, not not just like
the school, but churches and just the the firefighters and
the law enforcement who were there. Can continued. I mean
we ended up a few years later, me and my
best friend, giving so one of the officers his Lifetime
Achievement award, you know, and speaking going to his funeral

(01:21:09):
when he passed, so the firefighters you know who were there.
I still have the necklace that they gave me hanging
in my car.

Speaker 11 (01:21:17):
So that was huge.

Speaker 10 (01:21:18):
Just kind of a community rallying around, you know, around
kids and something like that happens.

Speaker 1 (01:21:23):
Yeah, what about Survivor's Guild for your friend and.

Speaker 10 (01:21:26):
You you know, I will say, like I I was
forced because of my injuries to talk about it a lot,
and so I've been very fortunate that I've had to
tell my story so much that that helped me process, right,
and so there, there's definitely that's a piece of it.
I actually was sitting in the in the front passenger

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seat and my friend was like wanted to sit there,
and so I jumped into back and so that definitely,
you know, was one of those things. This is hard.
It's hard to deal with, and I think it's it's
a very normal part of the process, but it's it's hard.

Speaker 1 (01:22:04):
Yeah, you were about to talk about your injury. So
you were in the hospital for months. Tell us about
the injury you received when you were in that car
accident at sixteen, So I.

Speaker 10 (01:22:14):
Thankfully even though I hit the window out with my head,
I had no head injuries. So I broke both sides
of my pelvists from the seat belt. So still very
grateful for that, because I would have been thrown from
the vehicle had I not had it on. But my
right leg was really the only other thing that was injured,
but it was stuck under the seat and so it

(01:22:36):
was about ninety percent amputated below the knee, so like
when I looked down, it was at a ninety degree angle,
and so I knew obviously that's not good, but it
didn't really know, you know, until they had to cut
us out and stuff like how severe it was. So
I was by flighted to Saint Francis and they tried.

(01:22:58):
We went through eight or nine different dogs who kind
of looked it at my case and basically recommended amputation.
But I could still feel my toes for some reason.
And I was just at this perfect age that I
always said if I was older or younger, you know,
if I was much older, my body wouldn't heal the
way that I was able to get it to do.

(01:23:19):
And if I was much younger, it would have been
too traumatic, so we would have just amputated, but we
decided to. I had a doctor who said, hey, I
know the head of plastic surgery at a medical center,
and he's willing to kind of experiment if you're willing
to go up there, and you know it's a teaching
hospital or you know, I'm assuming it so loose. This
has been obviously twenty three years ago. It was right

(01:23:41):
after nine to eleven, so you know, that tells me
how long ago this was. So the head of plastic
surgery just kind of started started working on it and experimenting.
So I ended up losing six inches of my tibia
and all of like the must the skin of course,

(01:24:01):
all that kind of stuff. They reattached my toes, and
then I was missing too much of my tibia bone
to do like the pins that you would normally do
whenever you see people have like large injuries like that.
So what they ended up doing was growing it back,
which again this is twenty three years ago, so I
can only imagine what they can do now. So we

(01:24:24):
grew back six inches of my tibia. That was a
long process, and then skin grafts and then they took
thirty one inches of muscle from my back and so
that's the muscle I have. So I can't like run
chasing after Toddler's fun, but you know I can walk.
I don't I don't have to put on my leg every.

Speaker 4 (01:24:45):
Day, so.

Speaker 10 (01:24:47):
You know, it's it's kind of amazing at the end
of everything for a couple of years, you know, at
the end of all my surgeries and stuff, which I
had over thirty my plastic surgeon said, it kind of
looks like a leg like it was pretty it was
pretty proud. So I feel like that's pretty good growing.

Speaker 1 (01:25:04):
Like there's stories of people that want to get taller,
so they like grow their legs, right, and that's a
pretty evasive exactly. Yes, yeah, and everybody's say everybody says
it's really painful. So what you thirty surgeries is no joke?
Was it painful?

Speaker 10 (01:25:20):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:25:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (01:25:21):
So it's called the Lisaarov fixator is the specific device
that you're talking about. And my doctor in Oklahma City,
he was one of the only people in this part
of the country at the time. I don't know how
many there are now, obviously, but there was only about
five of them at a time at least where I
was told it did it and just so happened. One
was in Oklahoma City, but he would have all of

(01:25:42):
his Lizarrov patients on the same day. And so yeah,
half of it was like injuries kind of like mine,
and then half were people doing it for heights. But
what they do. You know, obviously when you break a
bone like bone marrow will grow back, and obviously that's
how it healed, right, So what the what they do
is they cut a part of the bone that is

(01:26:03):
still healthy and then you have this big device, you know,
it's called the fixator, and in every six hours, we
had to move twelve bolts on this device and it
would every day gradually move that bone down and so
of course behind it feels inhealthy bone marrow. And so
it took you know, about it was almost a year

(01:26:25):
to get to the point where it was it was,
you know, the link that it needed to be, and
then it took about another you know year or so
to fully harden where I could walk on it.

Speaker 4 (01:26:36):
Wow, that's incredible.

Speaker 1 (01:26:38):
What is the mental part like going through recovery of.

Speaker 10 (01:26:42):
Something like that, I mean, obviously difficult. I will say
I think I stayed in school. I mean, I went
back to school when I was in a wheelchair, you know,
that was a huge thing. Was always huge lover of
socializing in school, and I missed that greatly. And so
I think continuing to be busy outside of all of

(01:27:04):
that really helped with the noise of how kind of
all consuming a physical health crisis can be. Just continuing
to have fun things happening and going to dances. And
my husband and I, you know, we were dating still
back then, and he was he was there every step
of the way. So it was a lot of community,

(01:27:26):
It was a lot of support, and then just kind of,
you know, keep keeping busy with things outside of that
was hugely helpful.

Speaker 1 (01:27:34):
We've run out of time. I've enjoyed talking to you.
Is there anything else you'd like to say about recovering
from a massive crisis, like what you went through all
those surgeries and losing a friend, or about your crisis
work in general.

Speaker 10 (01:27:49):
I mean, I think just people taking care of themselves
is the number one thing, Like you said, hard to
recognize when when you might need to ask for help,
and so just continuing to check in with yourself. I
feel like I did a pretty good job of that
of knowing when hey, I need a day, you know,
and I still do know. I still deal with a
lot of chronic pain now, and so you know, knowing

(01:28:12):
when hey, I need to take care of myself today
and then I I've always tried to make everything turn
into something fun and so okay, if I'm in bed
all day, well it's going to be a movie in
Poplan day.

Speaker 1 (01:28:22):
You know.

Speaker 10 (01:28:23):
Trying to continue to be positive when it feels like
there's a lot going wrong is super important. But like
I've said a couple of times before, I think supporting
your loved ones. I mean, that's what got me through
it for sure. Faith and community.

Speaker 1 (01:28:37):
Stephanie, this has been a fascinating conversation. Thanks for being
one of our listeners, and you're awesome, awesome, Thank you
so much. Have a good day you too. All right, saluator,
you got to take a break and we'll be back.

Speaker 2 (01:28:50):
Keelsa's warning show They'll be bed boarding show and soult
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Speaker 1 (01:29:09):
Good morning, It's the Big Mad Morning Show. Nine one
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eight two nine four five. I didn't know this was
a thing. And I'm pretty glad that I'm hearing the
news today that the Who's the Boss sequel has been scrapped.

(01:29:33):
Oh oh, thank goodness.

Speaker 4 (01:29:34):
Yeah, I didn't know they were making money in there.

Speaker 6 (01:29:36):
Neither.

Speaker 1 (01:29:38):
Apparently it was expected to be on Amazon.

Speaker 2 (01:29:43):
And that.

Speaker 1 (01:29:45):
They were gonna revive Who's the Boss with the Lissa
Milano Tony Danza. It's gonna be It's gonna be a
Lissa like, oh, I gotta go over to dad's again. Right,
probably has their own kid now Tony's grandpa And okay,
so then you have Angela. Didn't the kid die like

(01:30:08):
the boy? Yeah? Like Danny something another whatever. Yeah, I
thought Judith's Light was dead, but she's not. She's still alive. Mona. No, no, no,
Mona is the grandma. Yeah, there gonna say she should
be dead. Yeah, she's the No Judith life played Angela Angela,
gotcha Angela? Right? And then Jonathan was the son Danny

(01:30:31):
Petaro Yeah, yeah, and he came out and then died
shortly after that I think I remember correctly. Yeah, Mona's dead. Yeah,
she was old. Then she died in twenty nineteen, what
age though, so she would have been ninety. She was

(01:30:52):
eighty nine when she died. Okay, maybe she wasn't that old.
I don't think she was that old when she did
the show Man raid herself kind of. It's that Golden
Girls thing, right sure, Yeah, the relatively young but portrayed
old old bitches on TV. Yeah, and this is uh,
Danny Pataro is still live? Is he? Yeah? He ain't dead,

(01:31:13):
but he died. No, I think that's all live.

Speaker 4 (01:31:17):
Who are you thinking of?

Speaker 1 (01:31:19):
Obviously this guy he did come out in when National
inquirer outed him in ninety seven. He didn't want to
they outed him. Oh maybe he just wanted to die then.
And uh, he revealed in twenty fifteen that he was
HIV positive, contracting the virus as a result of unsafe

(01:31:40):
oral sex. And also myth. Oh yeah, and also math.
I gotta give a bad name in oral sex. Man,
it's your myth problem. It wasn't the oral sexy gave
me the aids. It was the myth. What do you
think his net worth is, Danny Pataro? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:32:03):
Less than a million, okay, maybe two hundred thousand.

Speaker 1 (01:32:12):
Mby i'm looking at he has not done much at all.
I'm gonna say he's got one hundred and seventeen thousand dollars. Uh,
it said six hundred thousand. But I was trying to
see how much he got for being on Who's the Boss?

(01:32:34):
And he was probably banking on that reboot right there. Yeah,
maybe right because his parents probably screwed him over big time. Yeah,
thinking he had like his parents probably got all that
money and then they blew it on trips, not putting
it away from him, right when he sacrificed his childhood

(01:32:54):
to be on a stupid show. Yeah, after eighty seven,
after Who's the Boss, he just didn't do much of anything.
Took a break from eighty seven to two thousand and one.

Speaker 4 (01:33:03):
Yeah, but before Who's the Boss, wasn't he in Uh?
Wasn't he the kid in Kujo?

Speaker 1 (01:33:09):
He was the kid in Kujo? Yep? Tad Trenton, what
do you think Tony Danza's net worth is? Oh many,
Tony's He's done some work, Yeah, name some stuff Who's
the Boss? Okay? Isn't he like a singer of sorts? Sure?

Speaker 4 (01:33:27):
Most recently he had a talk show, I mean with
the cast ten years.

Speaker 6 (01:33:34):
I think.

Speaker 4 (01:33:36):
I'll go with five million.

Speaker 1 (01:33:38):
I'm gonna say he's got more than that, he's got
at least fifty forty. Wow. But his last movie he
did don John okay, after math Rumble. He was a
voice in Rumble the animated, and then Darby and the Dead,

(01:33:58):
which was some I don't even know what this is.
So it's not like he's doing things he's not doing.

Speaker 4 (01:34:06):
He's just probably a good savor.

Speaker 1 (01:34:09):
He was on Blue Bloods for one episode. He had
a recurrent episode on The Good Cop. Right nobody saw
that either, huh, okay, no, nope, there's Johnny. He had
reoccurring Teach The Tony Danzas Show, an American reality show
about actor Tony Danza becoming a tenth grade English teacher

(01:34:31):
at Northeast High School in Pennsylvania. Oh that sounds rivetting.
The Tony Danzas Show he was on until two thousand
and six. Yeah. Wow. He was on Family Guy. Okay,
Family Law. But he hasn't really had anything of note
in a while. But I was shocked. Forty million feels

(01:34:53):
like a lot. I can't imagine his residual setup was good. Right, Well,
he's got that taxi money too. Sure, Yeah, all right,
we gotta take a break. Jeff Fans is going to
join us in a minute. You going through divorce, custody, guardianship,
name change, any family law question, get it over to us.
You can email it show at KMOD dot com. You
can text BMMS and whatever that question is to eight

(01:35:15):
two nine four five, or you can call when he's
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Speaker 2 (01:35:20):
Tulsa's Morning Show continues next The Big Man Morning Show
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Speaker 1 (01:35:42):
Good morning, It's the Big Mad Morning Show nine one
eight four six, oh K M O D. You can
also text BMMS and then what you want to say
to eight two nine four five. All this football going
on and baseball is happening to playoff baseball. The Padres
Dodgers game ridiculously good. The Dodgers and Padres hate each

(01:36:07):
other and the fans likewise, to the point where they
had to stop the game the other night because Dodgers
fans were throwing things at the Padres players, and they
were like jawn at each other, like this type of thing,
like let's meet outside after the game. Oh wow, like
player to player they were yelling at and the Padres
just whooped them just whooped the Dodgers, which does not

(01:36:29):
feel characteristic of Dodgers baseball. And there was one home
run the Dodgers hit and the player reached up to
grab it and took it from a fan, like caught
it like he was supposed to write, and he land
like he comes back down and he just stares at
him like what's up right, and the fans like, ah,

(01:36:52):
what you gonna do? But it is some exciting baseball.
And there's already there's other games that are really exciting too.
The Royals and Yankees is pretty exciting. They play again today.
But man, October, it's got some exciting games between football.
We have baseball basketball starting backup. It is awesome, man,
just awesome.

Speaker 9 (01:37:25):
The Broncos are on a three game winning streak after
erasing an early deficit to crush the rival Raiders thirty
four to eighteen from Mile High. Bo Nicks completed nineteen
of twenty seven passes for two touchdowns and added a
rushing score. Javonte Williams caught five balls for fifty yards
and rushed thirteen times for sixty one yards. Pat certained

(01:37:49):
the second scored one hundred yard pick six as the
team battled back from a ten to nothing first quarter deficit.
Denver second now in the AFC West at three and two.
Gardner Minshew went twelve of seventeen for one hundred and
thirty seven yards, one touchdown and two picks for Vegas.
Brock Browers caught eight balls for ninety seven yards and

(01:38:09):
a score.

Speaker 4 (01:38:10):
As the Raiders sit last in the division at two
and three.

Speaker 1 (01:38:13):
Dude, they benched Minshew. They benched him. They were like, sit,
you're not good. By the way, one of the predictions
we had is the Las Vegoras Raiders will start five
and one oh. Not from us. Someone else made these predictions,
so that ain't happening. And if you get a chance,
go look at the video of Max Crosby yelling at
bo Nicks because bo Nix is trying to call an

(01:38:35):
audible at the line and Max Crosby gets up from
his position like he's got to be. He walks like
five six feet to yell at Max bow Nicks and
Crosby yells, bo speak up. They don't e fie know
like he's like even Max Crosby knows what's happening, He's
not conveying it well to the line. For the change.

(01:38:56):
It's just I love Max Crosby even though he plays
for the Raiders. Just awesome. And go look at the
video two of bo Nicks getting into a verbal yelling
match with Sean Payton and how different it looks from
when Russell Wilson got into a yelling match with them,
and because Sean Payton acted like a crazy person with Russell. Yeah,

(01:39:18):
but bo Nicks, He's just like, hey, hey, it's okay,
Like what's happening, man, that's weird. We had a change
of heart. Man. I guess it must be all that
NFL experience Bonnicks has.

Speaker 4 (01:39:28):
Yeah, yeah, right, exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:39:30):
Yeah. But Sir Tan is a udd. He might be
the defensive player of the year if he keeps on
this track. You had two interceptions I think yesterday.

Speaker 4 (01:39:38):
Oh wow, Yeah he looked.

Speaker 1 (01:39:40):
Denver's defense looks ridiculously good.

Speaker 4 (01:39:44):
Yeah. Also another team that looks really good. Kaye mean.

Speaker 9 (01:39:50):
Fairbairn nailed a fifty nine yard field goal as time
expired to push the Texans past the Bills twenty three
to twenty. From Houston. Kicker went three for three unfield
attempts and converted all of his extra points.

Speaker 1 (01:40:02):
C J.

Speaker 9 (01:40:03):
Stroud went twenty eight of thirty eight for three hundred
and thirty one yards, one touchdown and an interception. Stefan
Diggs caught six balls for eighty two yards against his
former team as Houston leads the AFC South at four
and one.

Speaker 1 (01:40:16):
I don't know if they both are good. I don't
know if the Buffalo they're too erratic. We're not seeing
a consistent Texan CJ. Stroud product. And don't even get
me started on Buffalo looks. What are they doing? I
don't even know.

Speaker 4 (01:40:29):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:40:30):
And by the way, Josh Allen got knocked at. He
was knocked out in that cold and then they're like, no,
he's good. Huh. You can see when he's laying on
the ground and his hand is dorsal flexed and like
he's laying there motionless. That is not an uncomfortable position
to have your wrist bent back towards your forearm. Yeah,

(01:40:52):
and he just lays there for a couple of minutes
and like I'm good, Yeah, no way, man. He looked
knock out.

Speaker 7 (01:41:00):
Hm.

Speaker 9 (01:41:01):
And now it's time for your Dallas Cowboys update, brought
to you by our friends at Miller Lyte Dak Prescott
led a last minute game winning drive to lift the
Dallas Cowboys over the Pittsburgh Steelers twenty to seventeen on
Sunday Night Football at Akrasher Stadium.

Speaker 4 (01:41:16):
Prescott threw a go ahead four yard.

Speaker 9 (01:41:18):
Touchdown pass to Jalen Tolbert with twenty seconds left. Prescott
completed twenty nine to forty two passes for three hundred
and fifty two yards, two touchdowns and two interceptions, while
Tobert finished with seven catches for eighty seven yards and
the game winning score.

Speaker 1 (01:41:36):
The thing about Dak, think about Dak and Josh Allen.
So Josh Allen gets the ball thirty seconds left, right,
and all he's got to do is not score and
not give the ball back, right, That's all he's got
to do. And then they go into overtime with the Texans, right,
and in thirty seconds they end up giving the ball
back to the Texans. They score a field goal, just

(01:41:58):
horrible clock management and not get it done right. So
I have a hard time believing Josh Allen isn't got
the freedom to change plays up combination two problems, right,
And then you see Dak do this wild man like,
that's what you expect your quarterback to be able to handle.
Is that final drive when you're trying to score with
two minutes left, and he displayed that I'm worth every pinny. Now,

(01:42:19):
maybe we joke that they can't get to the big game,
but that's what you want your quarterback to do. I
think in the NFL. The other thing, too, is now
Dak Prescott holds this amazing stat He's the only quarterback
to have an interception on two different days in one game.
Because the game started so late. He had an interception
on Sunday and then it played into Monday and he

(01:42:40):
also got an interception on Monday. Yeah, two interceptions on
two separate days in one game.

Speaker 9 (01:42:46):
The Cowboys now have won back to back games and
sit second in the NFC East at three and two fields.
Just fields passed for one hundred and twenty seven yards
and two touchdowns in the losing effort, TJ. Watt totaled
one and a half sacks, surpass the one hundred career
sex mark.

Speaker 4 (01:43:03):
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Jeff Heinsley's joining us from Hensley and Associate. It's good morning, Jeff.

Speaker 6 (01:44:18):
Hey, good morning.

Speaker 1 (01:44:19):
Jeff's here to answer any question you have about family law, custody, guardianship,
name change. Maybe you're dealing with some situation with child support.
And Jeff can answer how any of that works. It's
up to you to get your question to us a
couple of ways. Email address is show at kmod dot com.
You can call it nine one eight four to six
oh KMOD, or you can text BMMS and whatever your
question is to the phone number eight two nine four five.

(01:44:41):
This one came in v email. It's this question for Jeff.
My girlfriend has been in the works for filing for
child support from her child's father parentheses. If we ever
managed to find him, if he gives up his rights,
does he still have to pay child support? And will
just getting married affect anything relating to child support?

Speaker 8 (01:44:59):
So two different questions there. Let's first cover the termination
of rights thing. Okay, So remember, in the state of Oklahoma,
as of right now, in the way it's been for
the entire time I've been in practice, so at least
fifteen years, fifteen twenty years or more, the only two
ways are through an adoption, all right, or through the
state taking your rights in a deprived child action.

Speaker 6 (01:45:18):
Okay, those are the only two way to relinquish rights.

Speaker 8 (01:45:20):
So it's not like, oh, we find him and he
says I don't want anything to do with him and
signs of relinquishment. It doesn't work that way. It did
work that way previous in Oklahoma, many many, many many
moons ago, but the laws changed a long time ago,
and that hasn't been the case here in Oklahoma for
a very long time.

Speaker 6 (01:45:34):
So he can't do that. Number one.

Speaker 8 (01:45:37):
But if there's an adoption, these people do an adoption,
all right, and he relinquishes his rights. When the adoption
is complained, there is no more child support ode moving forward. Okay,
you can try and get back support. You might be successful,
you might not be successful.

Speaker 6 (01:45:54):
It just depends.

Speaker 8 (01:45:55):
I've tried it both ways, and I've had judges come
down differently on that particular issue, and a lot of
it deals with how long did you wait to.

Speaker 6 (01:46:03):
Collect and those sort of things.

Speaker 8 (01:46:04):
But with that being said, if they do, if they
get married and they want to do a step parent adoption,
they can terminate, right. So that would be a good
way to get rid of dad and we don't have
to worry about it as as far as child The
second part of the question will read me that last portion.

Speaker 1 (01:46:20):
And will us getting married affect anything relating to child support?

Speaker 6 (01:46:24):
Answer is no.

Speaker 8 (01:46:25):
Okay, So when you're you're figuring child support, it's only
based upon the two party's incomes or are the parents
of the child. So it doesn't matter that you remarry,
doesn't matter that. Here's the worst I shouldn't say worst
case scenario, but this is.

Speaker 6 (01:46:38):
This is the scenario.

Speaker 8 (01:46:40):
I always give an example of, Okay, because I had
this happen in practice, all right, I represented dad, who
was a welder out of Texas, all right, and he
wasn't doing very well. We follow the motion modify to
Laura's child support. Well, mom had contempted him for his
failure to pay child support up to that point. And
the sad part was is that Mom had remarried to

(01:47:01):
a minor league basketball player who played in the European League.
So he was making seven figures, all right. Did she
need the money? Absolutely not. This is all about screwing
him and holding him accountable in those kind of things.
And so my example there is is that it doesn't
matter if you marry a millionaire. It doesn't mary it
matter if you marry a billionaire, all right, or somebody
who's fairly wealthy. Their income is never taken into account.

(01:47:25):
The fact that you have access to large amounts of
funds and you don't need the child support is not
taken into account, and so it's just been based upon
your two incomes and that's it, not the people you marry.
So no, the marriage will not affect it in any way.

Speaker 1 (01:47:39):
Jeff Finsley's joining us from Hensley Associates. If you have
a question about divorce or custody guardianship, maybe an adult guardianship.
Maybe you have an elderly parent and you need to
help them make some decisions, he can answer how all
that works nine one, eight four to six oho kmod.
You can text BMMS and whatever that is to eight
two nine four five, or you can email show at
kmod dot com. This one says, I filed for divorce

(01:48:00):
two and a half years ago, turned into a custody
battle where we both blew all my money getting that settled.
Neither of us now have an attorney due to the
money issues. I called the courthouse and my divorce case
is open, but nothing has been done, no court dates
or anything said how do I go about getting a
divorce finalized? I also have way too high of child
support for having true fifty to fifty.

Speaker 8 (01:48:23):
Okay, so twoch questions there? All right, how do you
get it ended? Well, I mean, give us a call.
We can try and help you with that. I mean,
if it's just entering a decree, all right, we can
help with that and get that entered for you. Assuming
that's the only case, all right.

Speaker 1 (01:48:35):
And assuming you both agree it should be a minimal
expense to get that done compared to.

Speaker 6 (01:48:41):
Them in theory.

Speaker 8 (01:48:42):
Yes, absolutely, And you know, if we get in and
we find out that there's hardly any agreements and all
these other things, and obviously we have to follow the
set procedure by the court that says you've got to
do these things discovery and mediation and you know, all
these other things. So you know, it just depends a right.
It's a famous lawyer answer.

Speaker 1 (01:48:58):
It depends.

Speaker 8 (01:48:59):
Now when it comes down to the child support thing,
all right, Remember, fifty to fifty doesn't mean you owe zero,
all right. The only scenario that that will ever be
the case, all right, is that the parties make the
exact same amount of money they have fifty to fifty.
There are no insurance costs, all right. That's the only

(01:49:20):
way would ever be a zero.

Speaker 1 (01:49:22):
Right.

Speaker 8 (01:49:22):
But if someone makes and I'm just making numbers up right,
someone makes if dad makes ten thousand dollars a month
and mom makes two thousand dollars a month, but they've
got fifty to fifty, dad is still going to owe
mom because Dad makes way five times more than mom makes,
all right, doesn't matter if you've got fifty to fifty times.
There's this big misconception out there, So everyone please listen.

(01:49:44):
There's this big misconception out there. We'll go fifty to
fifty so that it should be zero. No, that's not
how it works, all right. If you make way more
than the other side, then you're probably gonna owe something,
all right. Now, if the other side it makes way
more than you do, then it'll probably be a zero,
all right. But if you're the one that owes and

(01:50:05):
you make way more than the other side, then most
likely you're going to owe some child support.

Speaker 6 (01:50:09):
That's just the way. That's the what is it a
song from the eighties? Is just the way it is.

Speaker 1 (01:50:13):
So you know, I feel like I've heard you say
this before, and correct me if I'm wrong. There's no
such thing as true fifty to fifty.

Speaker 6 (01:50:19):
Well, okay, so there is.

Speaker 8 (01:50:21):
But you know, remember, on the computation, it's going to
show someone's got one hundred and eighty three nights and
somebody's got one hundred and eighty two nights because three
hundred and sixty five divided by two is one eighty
two and one e three, all right, is how we
break it down. Obviously, the actual math is different, all right,
So you know understand, you know twenty two point five

(01:50:42):
for each of them by math. But when you're looking
at a computation, somebody has to have the one aight three,
somebody has to one have the one eighty two.

Speaker 6 (01:50:50):
That's just the way it is.

Speaker 1 (01:50:51):
And can you get that figured out or readjusted without
an attorney? Should you know? But could you.

Speaker 8 (01:50:58):
You would be very frustrated in the situation simply because
you don't know how to do it. You don't know
what the file and who knows that you're if you're
using the right computation, right, there's only one computation out
there now that is correct, all right, and it came
in in December of twenty twenty three, all right, So
if you're not using that computation, you're using something you

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had from you know, you downloaded when you five years ago.

Speaker 6 (01:51:23):
It is not accurate and correct. The algorithm changed.

Speaker 8 (01:51:26):
Don't ask me what changed in it, because I don't know,
all right, and DHS doesn't know. They just know that
the algorithm changed, and therefore you must use this brand
new one that's been around since December of twenty three, period.

Speaker 1 (01:51:41):
Kind of tagging onto that. This email says, my AX
has downloaded divorce forms online. We have agreed to visitation
days for our four year old daughter. She has left
our home and gotten an apartment. She has left our
home and gotten an apartment in a dangerous area of
Tulsa after an affair was discovered. Do I have any
options for keeping my daughter? Say a couple questions in there.
But when you download forms, whether it be the formula

(01:52:04):
for child support or your own divorce, you can easily
get misguided into the wrong thing.

Speaker 6 (01:52:08):
Absolutely.

Speaker 8 (01:52:09):
I mean there's literally YouTube videos and directions online for
doing your own surgery, doing your own castration, doing your
own hysterectomy. I mean, my god, there's stuff out there
everywhere that doesn't mean it's correct.

Speaker 6 (01:52:24):
Right.

Speaker 8 (01:52:25):
Just because you download something that says it's for Oklahoma
doesn't mean it's for Oklahoma, and it could be very
very wrong.

Speaker 6 (01:52:31):
So when in doubt don't.

Speaker 1 (01:52:34):
And how do judges respond when you present the wrong forms,
wrong documentation.

Speaker 8 (01:52:38):
They send it back and say, look, I'm sorry, but
it's wrong. And they're not allowed to tell you what's
wrong because they can't give legal advice.

Speaker 1 (01:52:44):
Right, they can't guide you where they are, right.

Speaker 6 (01:52:46):
They're not allowed to. They're not supposed to that. They
will tell you. I've heard judges say this from the stand.

Speaker 8 (01:52:50):
I can't give you legal advice, right, You're gonna have
to contact an attorney to do that. So if you've
got an issue with this guy's call us. We're happy
to walk you through it and help you, and you know,
draft things for you whatever you need. But don't use
the junk on the internet because it's not necessarily true
or correct.

Speaker 6 (01:53:05):
At step one, what's the next.

Speaker 1 (01:53:06):
And what about their point of the the soon to
be X has left the home and got in an
apartment in a dangerous area of.

Speaker 8 (01:53:12):
Tulls What are we defining as a dangerous area of Tulsa. Okay,
my idea of a dangerous area of Tulsa may not
be what somebody else is dangerous. I have a dangerous idea.
I mean, here's the thing. Judges don't have the authority
to tell people where to live.

Speaker 6 (01:53:26):
They just don't. I mean, the judge can't say, well,
you can live here, but you can't live there.

Speaker 1 (01:53:30):
You know.

Speaker 8 (01:53:31):
They can say you shouldn't live here and you should
live here or someplace like here. They can say you should,
but they can't force you to do that through a
divorce right so, or a paternity action. So you know, again,
what are we defining as bad area of Tulsa? All right,
I don't know what this person's definition is. Whoever this is,
please call me and let's talk about it. But the
thing is is that and this is what I explain

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over and over to people, and it and it does suck,
but is the way the legal system works in every
part of the United States.

Speaker 1 (01:53:58):
So listen.

Speaker 8 (01:54:00):
Our system nationwide is reactionary. Something must happen before our
judge can do anything. Otherwise we'll be doing the Tom
Cruise movie Minority Report, where we've got pre cogs and
arresting people just because they might think about doing something
or whatever it means. It's ridiculous, right, So, our whole
system is reactionary. And as much as we'd like to

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be proactive, as much as I would love to pre
file something. For example, I had one this weekend. Then
I've have to deal with when I get to the
office this morning where we got a notice from the
other side that they were going to deny.

Speaker 6 (01:54:32):
Visitation this weekend.

Speaker 8 (01:54:35):
I can't proactively go and file on Friday and say, well,
they're threatening, they're threatening to deny visitation. They have to
actually do it before I can do something. And on
the weekends there's nothing anybody can do because judges don't
work on weekends and the courts are closed.

Speaker 6 (01:54:54):
So being point of order, import fact on.

Speaker 8 (01:54:57):
This is that, look, our system's reactionary, so until something
actually happens, there's nothing a court system can do. I mean,
if the child gets hurt or harmed or threats of
harm or any of that, we can always go file
emergency custody at any point to get the child out
of that situation, plain and simple. But until something happens,
there's nothing we can do.

Speaker 1 (01:55:16):
I want to ask you a question of clarification on
keeping their daughter safe. In this checks, we got living
in an apartment where there's a registered sex office, apartment
complex where there's a registered sex offender. The court doesn't
see as the same as living in an apartment with
a registered sex offender.

Speaker 8 (01:55:33):
Right, correct, Again, it's something has to happen, you know,
do your due diligence. I mean in some Again, there's
all sorts of scenarios that I could float around for
the next several hours on the radio talking about, you know,
different scenarios that could play out in this. I need
more facts and so whoever this is, please feel free
to call me. I'm happy to talk to you about

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your situation and how we can try and keep your
daughter safe without thing happening.

Speaker 1 (01:56:01):
Let's go to the phones. Derek's waiting, Derek, what's your
question for? Jeff Hensley of Hensley and Associates.

Speaker 11 (01:56:06):
Hey, guys, so I have fifty fifty and right now
I do pay zero. But at the bottom of my
child support calculations it says negative a certain amount on
my end. Does that mean I'm supposed to be getting
that from her? Or is that just canceled out.

Speaker 8 (01:56:24):
I've never seen a computation like that. In fifteen years?
What county did you get divorced in Tulsa?

Speaker 1 (01:56:31):
What year?

Speaker 6 (01:56:31):
How long ago.

Speaker 11 (01:56:33):
We finalized everything?

Speaker 1 (01:56:35):
Oh?

Speaker 11 (01:56:36):
Shoot, last year or the year before. It actually hasn't
been that long.

Speaker 6 (01:56:39):
Ago, are you.

Speaker 8 (01:56:41):
I mean that would be strange because the calculator doesn't
go into negatives. I mean, if it's something that should
be a zero or that you know you in your case,
it should read a zero, not a negative. If you
give your name re number to gimpee, I will call you.
I'd love to help you out with that and answer
a little bit more. I've never seen a negative in
fifteen years zero as usually a zero's out.

Speaker 11 (01:57:05):
Okay. Last thing is now, I'm remarried. I have a
young son as well. Does that come into play in
any form with child support? When this is the child calculated?

Speaker 6 (01:57:16):
Is the child biologically yours? Yes, sir, then the answer
is yes.

Speaker 8 (01:57:20):
The reason I stayed it that way, and this is
for everybody on the radio, just because you remarried to
somebody who's already got six kids, you don't get an
in home credit for that because those kids are not
yours biologically. So that's why I asked answer that or
asked that question.

Speaker 1 (01:57:36):
Gotcha, all right? Hang on the line, Derek, so Gimpee
can get your number.

Speaker 11 (01:57:39):
Okay, all right, thank you guys.

Speaker 1 (01:57:41):
I appreciate it. This tech says my ex wife has
not seen the kids in six years. She's behind in
child support and half the medical bills somewhere north of
thirty thousand dollars. She moved out of state and I
have no contact with her. Is there any way to
pursue that back child support with her being out of state?

Speaker 6 (01:57:59):
You know you can try.

Speaker 8 (01:58:00):
I've tried in the past when I first started practice,
and I will tell you here's the result.

Speaker 6 (01:58:05):
All right.

Speaker 8 (01:58:05):
You have to when you file a contempt citation, you
have to serve them notice. And even if you do
get them served out of state right, which we can
do right, there will be a hearing setup where she
has to show up. And if she doesn't show up,
the best the court can do is a bench warrant
for her arrest for the amount of money that's owed.
And unless she steps foot in Oklahoma, and you know

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exactly where she is so you can call the cops
and have that warrant activated, it's just going to sit
as a warrant forever. I've got a case that, like
I said when I was a young lawyer fifteen years ago,
I've got a case that's got a warrant that's been
out for thirteen and a half years because the other
side lives out of state and they never come to Oklahoma.
They want nothing to do with the kids. And all

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the kids I think now are probably nineteen or twenty now.
But my point being is that that warrant's been sitting
out there for that long because the person won't overcome
to Oklahoma. And if they do, they don't have to
tell the other side they're coming. They can go anywhere
they want. I mean, this is the problem without a state, right,
can you enforce it? You can try it, maybe, you know,
but if they don't want anything to do with the

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kids and they're not coming to Oklahoma, it's all you're
the best you're gonna do in a hearing is a
bench warrant.

Speaker 1 (01:59:17):
If a warrant is issued and the kids age out,
does the warrant stay active?

Speaker 8 (01:59:21):
The warrant will stay active, yes, because there's still that
back support that's owed. But you know, some people will say, well,
what if they get picked up in another state on
something and they run a warrant check and they find
that there's a warrant I Okeham for child support.

Speaker 6 (01:59:34):
Guess what?

Speaker 8 (01:59:35):
They are not extraditing to Oklahoma over child support. That
doesn't happen. Why Because extradition is expensive for whatever state's
doing it, and they don't care that it's child support, murder, absolutely, arson, rape,
child molestation, absolutely, drugs, absolutely, child support.

Speaker 6 (01:59:56):
Not a chance.

Speaker 1 (01:59:57):
This one is a doozy question for Jeff because of
a friend. If DHS has suspended supervised visitation with a
parent and the parent goes to pick up the kids
from school, is that parental kidnapping? I know, parental kidnapping
is a high bar, So read that first part one
more time. If DHS has suspended supervised visitation for a

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parent and the parent goes to pick up the kids
from school, is that parental kidnapping?

Speaker 8 (02:00:26):
So first of all, DHS doesn't have the authority to
suspend anything, all right, They don't have that authority. The
only authority that has that person that has that authority
as a judge in age. I'm assuming this is a
juvenile case, all right?

Speaker 6 (02:00:41):
Is it parental kidnapping? Potentially?

Speaker 8 (02:00:45):
I mean we've seen amber alerts recently within the last
month where you had a guy that went and picked
his kid up. Shouldn't have is it juvenile case? And
that he ran with the kid, So there is that potential. Yes,
Usually though, those orders come through and they are presented
to the school district and the school will make sure

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that that person can't pick up because they'll say, well,
I have an order here from the court that says
you're not allowed to pick up this child. And unless
they ram through the doors and go and grab the
kid out of the classroom, which doesn't happen, all right,
because remember most schools now have security officers in them
or actual TPDE or Whilso PDE or whatever alright working
there watching over the children. All right, that's the scenario

(02:01:31):
that probably won't play out. But yes, I mean that
is a potential. Again, we've seen that. I remember seeing
an amberler here on Oklahoma just in the last month
about the same kind of issue.

Speaker 6 (02:01:40):
So that is a potential.

Speaker 1 (02:01:42):
Let's talk about that Brisley with school pickup and certain
parents not being allowed to pick up, right, how do
you do diligence to make sure that child cannot be
picked up by the parent that isn't supposed to if
the parent had rights at one time or had to
pick up tag or pick up hard.

Speaker 8 (02:01:58):
I mean it's completely hard. I think about how my
kids do pick up at their school. Right, We're in
the car line. All right, we drive around, they see us, Hi.
Now of course they we hold up the sign that
says their names. Well, actually the lady knows us sown it. Well,
now we don't have to be sure, but you know,
you hold the kid's name on it and they let

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the car in.

Speaker 6 (02:02:19):
Right. It's a hard thing.

Speaker 8 (02:02:21):
I mean, unless the school is on active notice that dad,
who they've seen forever is not allowed to pick them up. Now,
I don't know that there's a whole lot that can
be done. It's a sticky situation and it's something I
think our legislature needs to address. I think it's something
that needs to be dealt with in case law.

Speaker 1 (02:02:39):
It's hard for schools to be the enforcer, right, and.

Speaker 8 (02:02:42):
They shouldn't have to be. I mean, that's the thing is.
It puts them in the middle and it causes all
sorts of problems. And some school districts are hardcore about
this stuff, and others are willing nilly about this stuff,
you know, and there's no consistency. So it's it's a
messed up situation that honestly, contact your Look. I say

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this all the time, and because really, if you want
change in the laws. Contact your local legislator who's four
year district for the state.

Speaker 6 (02:03:11):
Of Oklahoma and talk to them about your concerns.

Speaker 1 (02:03:16):
Navigating divorce, family law, any of those things is quite
tricky and you can be misguided very easily from friends,
from Google, from other online things. You got to have
somebody give you advice that knows the system, is an
officer of the court, and the folks at Hensley Associates
are that nine eight for nine eight three, nine eight
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Speaker 6 (02:03:49):
Right through a PROHOSCA office.

Speaker 8 (02:03:51):
And yes it's the Shoemake Law firm, different name, but
it is Hinsley. It is our office, all right. Give
Colin a call up there. He can definitely help you
out with anything addition to family law. So if you've
got a car at case, if you've got a speeding ticket,
if you've got you've been hurt by somebody in the
medical field, I mean anything. In addition to family law,
calling can help you with. Don't worry about where it's at. Okay,

(02:04:13):
he can talk to everybody over the phone or do
zoom or whatever needs to be done. We do every
county in the state, all right, doesn't matter where it's at,
So please give us a call.

Speaker 6 (02:04:20):
We'd love to help you out.

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Speaker 6 (02:04:29):
Hey, take care.

Speaker 2 (02:04:30):
The Big Med Morning Show returns next Tulsa's Morning Show
ninety seven KMOT.

Speaker 1 (02:04:46):
Good Morning, It's the Big Mad Morning Show. Nine four
six oh km D. You can also text BMMS and
then what you want to say to eight two nine
four five. This story came down last week. I thought
it was quite shocking about Garth Brooks if you haven't
seen it, where a woman is claiming that he raped
her in a hotel room. Apparently the woman was a

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makeup artist not just for him, but also Tricia, his wife.
This cling goes down in twenty nineteen, wow, so fairly recently,
and that he Garth took her with him to La
for a Grammy tribute, and when she boarded his private
plane in Nashville, she noticed there were only They were

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the only ones on the plane, which was not normal,
she claims. When they got to La, she found out
Garth had only rented one hotel room for the both
of them, and he denied her request for her own room.
She says Garth suddenly appeared in the doorway completely naked
and dragged her onto a bed in another room, where
he overpowered her and raped her. In the documents, the

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woman claims Garth held her five foot frame by her
ankles and dangled her upside down as they had sex,
and there's a very graphic description of it. I'll put
this in here so you guys can see. Yes, please do,
because it's quite alarming of what she said. She claims

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after the rape, it was business as usual and Garth
did and she did Garth's hair and makeup for the event.
She says she was dealing with financial hardships and needed
the work, and Garth preyed on her, not a e
because of her financial situation. She claims she was one
of She was at Garth's home one day in twenty
nineteen waiting to do his makeup when he came out

(02:06:37):
of the shower naked with an erection. I don't typically
get turned on when I'm in the shower, only if
you're thinking of something you're not supposed to, right. She says,
he pointed.

Speaker 8 (02:06:52):
At her.

Speaker 1 (02:06:54):
With not his fingers, walked over, grabbed her hands and
put them on him, and he told her he fantasized
about her in a sexual way, and very again, very
graphic details. She claims the incident happened before the alleged rape,
which she says was painful and traumatic. She also says

(02:07:16):
Garth would often fondle her breasts while she was doing
his hair and makeup, even though she told him not to,
and then he would masturbate afterwards. God. Wow. She of
course is suing four damages, and of course Garth is
saying it's extortion and defamation and not even remotely close

(02:07:39):
to reality, to which I say, I believe him. Also,
I don't believe anybody nowadays. I have no reason to
believe he's done that, but also.

Speaker 4 (02:07:50):
No reason to believe he didn't.

Speaker 1 (02:07:51):
You just never know, you never know. I hope his
character is what I believe it is, and I hope
she's not lying. I kind of always like to believe victims.
Feels like a fair thing to do, right, But I
hope she gets to prove herself in court and vice versa,

(02:08:12):
because that is a damning accusation. Ah. Yeah, And he
seems he's just such a wholesome dude. Seems like it,
you know, every time he talked to him, always seems like.
But here's the thing, though, It's like everybody's got something, man,
everybody's gone something. And just because they look squeaky clean
and polished doesn't mean yeah, that there's something not something

(02:08:35):
dark deep inside them. Yeah. I mean I had no
reason to believe Dave that's not true. Dave had a past.
We just chose to ignore it. Dave's not rape pitches either, No, no, no, no,
I'm just saying in terms of character, right, my three
experiences I ever had with Garth Brooks, I never saw
anything menacing about him, how he talked to people, how

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he treated people. Of course, I'm not a make artists,
nor do have boobs. They said boobs, not moves.

Speaker 9 (02:09:05):
And if she was the makeup artist for both of them,
I'm assuming she's close to them both.

Speaker 1 (02:09:11):
I think that's a misconception. Maybe she gets a they
gither like a discount a group of discounts, or they
you just do your job and move on. I don't
think people that are like hairstyles aren't always friends with
those people. I come in and do my job, I leave.

Speaker 9 (02:09:27):
But wouldn't you it's been five years since the since
it supposedly happened. Wouldn't she have said something to Tricia like.

Speaker 1 (02:09:36):
Hey, your husband rape me or he's been he showed
me with is arect penis. Like again, if you're trying
to just have your job and you feel lucky, that's
your only famous client. So I don't know if this
means anything to you, because I just pull it up
Garth Brooks and you know, a rape. I just try

(02:09:58):
to get more of the stackery here or whatever. And
I guess it says here Garth and Trish sell their
three point three four million dollar home. Would they do
that if they felt like they were in the clear?
I guess that's the question that I'm trying to find
out here. You know, it's like, oh God, okay, now

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you all right, I'm gonna sell the house. I'm out,
I'm done. That's the way it looks like on the
on the surface anyway, I think when you have an
estimated net worth near five hundred million dollars, your financial
real estate transactions do not coincide with your life. Okay,
number of reasons you sell homes. I think when you
have a financial real estate portfolio, unless they gotta pay

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for some high powerful lawyer. Again, when you're near worth
near half a billion dollars, right, you aren't going well.
I guess we got a mortgage to the home. Right,
do a reverse mortgage, Tom sell it can help you.
They getting older. It's the thing I just saw that.
I was like, I wonder if that. I mean, it
doesn't really mean anything, But like I said, I don't

(02:11:06):
think it. It looks good. At the same time, I think,
if Gimpi ends up selling motorcycles, you can go, oh, okay,
so he's in a financial peril, right, yeah, right, But
when you're worth half a billion dollars, which I will
never you are not stressing about some legal bills. Now,
even if he has to pay one hundred million dollars,

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you still got plenty.

Speaker 9 (02:11:28):
Yes, maybe they're selling it because she's pissed and thinks
it's true when they're gonna split up because of it.

Speaker 1 (02:11:34):
That's kind of That's another thing that I was thinking of. Yeah,
or he wants downgrade or maybe what you guys are saying,
maybe Tricia to a makeup artist. No, in terms of
how they want to live in a pretty great place
here and they moved. Yeah, but as Tom Saga says,
where are the bodies right? Right right? It's not open
any kind of their garth Come on? But that to me,

(02:11:58):
you see that, He's like, damn man, I hope that's
not true. No, of course I don't like that look
for anyone, but if you did it, wo boy? Who boy? Okay,
So we're shocked at this because it's Garth Brooks and
he seems like maybe it's because he's Oklahoma, got whatever.
But we weren't shocked when this came out about Diddy.

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You see what I'm saying, rapist, rape, no matter how
you look at it. But there was build up to
the story, like there were things leaking, like we knew
he was getting raided, and there was already an inside
joke about ditty sexuality and some other things. It's just
out of nowhere. Yeah, okay, Yeah, Michael Jackson, the same thing, right,
Like it slowly rolled into that, right, right, the same thing. Yeah, well,

(02:12:43):
it's kind of like what we talked about with Grohl.
We were like, when you get caught off guard, you're like, what.
As far as I know, I don't recall any time
that Garth has ever been accused of sexual assault of
any kind or anything. Really, no, except for maybe being
difficult to work with. But I don't even think I've
heard that he's got some rules right exactly. But I

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don't think that that's difficult to work with. No, No,
I mean that's speculatory right there. I have just because
you think he's hard to work what doesn't mean he's
just he knows what he wants and it's his show.
Let him run out the way he wants anyway. But
I think when you're worth, when you're that type of megastar,
having rules doesn't make you hard to work with, right, right,
But some people will. I gotta have rules because I
just can't. I can't be accessible to everyone, and I

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got to make sure those around me aren't doing it
for nefarious reasons. Hey, so you know they're not being
pitched by an Iceberg. So on the on the mount
rushmore of good celebrities Keanu Reeves, Dave Grohl, Garth Brooks,
Well two of them are off now, Yeah, he got

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to find other good, wholesome celebrities. Yeah, the good luck
Keanu is the only one that I know of. He
just debuted his racing career. Yeah that's fine. Yeah, time
he's not last, but he was at first either that whatever. Man,
you get to say you were a racer, yeah, erace cars.
How long do you think? Oh my goodness, Like something

(02:14:13):
comes out about him that just ruins everything, right, the
whole world's just gone to hell. If something bad about
Keano comes out, it's just like, you know what, I
give up on society. I'm done. It's like what we
talked about in our podcast. If you have expectations about
a celebrity, that's on you because people are people let
you down. Yeah, And that's like I said, everybody's got
their things. So that makes me wonder, Right, what's Gio's thing?

(02:14:36):
It could be that he likes Okra and I'm just generalizing,
but like, right, right, right, right, right right. It could
be he you know, he's a vegan. It could be
doesn't everything doesn't have to be a ten your thing
doesn't have to be a ten. No, no, but usually
it comes out it is, you know, and you're like
holy cow man, r Kelly p and on, Little Girls,
you know, this whole thing with Diddy. To me, it's

(02:14:56):
when you are the most normal as a celebrity. I'm like, yeah, right,
so then I think it might be a ten. If
you're like I don't like lemons or I don't like cotton,
or I don't like pizza or I don't like then
I'm like, no, no, no, I'm just saying that, like
those are already wild things, right, so therefore you're you're
not stuff that came out of it. And you're like,

(02:15:17):
h yeah, yeah, well of course guy has Lemons and
the Beatles. No, no, no, I'm saying that those are
your wild things. So whatever you're that's your weird thing.

Speaker 4 (02:15:24):
Yeah right.

Speaker 1 (02:15:25):
If your thing is like no, I love all those
things and ocre is amazing and all that other stuff,
you're like, something's up. You're a deadlarer, aren't you. I'm
glad to be out of that group. All right, we'll
take a break. We'll be back.

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You're listening to the Big Man Morning Show. This is
Tulsa's Morning show.

Speaker 1 (02:16:02):
Good morning, It's the Big Man Morning Show. Four six
oh km D lindsay, what'd you learn today?

Speaker 9 (02:16:12):
I learned that nine eight eight is the crisis help
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it maybe posted on the refrigerator at home. All kids
and family members should know nine eight eight And at
seven twelve this morning on October seventh, twenty twenty four,

(02:16:33):
Gimpy complimented not one, but two of my recommendations.

Speaker 1 (02:16:39):
Oh did I compliment? I just said I did two of.

Speaker 4 (02:16:41):
Them, and you did because you liked both of them.

Speaker 1 (02:16:46):
Gimpy, what'd you learn today? Well? I learned not to
upset the Ricky Dicky Tabby Fang club loose god damn
very passionate about a mongoose anyway. Uh. And I also
learned that between between getting cancer and getting AIDS, I
don't think oral sex is something I don't want to

(02:17:07):
do anymore. Lie, I'll take my tea. That's too line.
I learned, man, I can't wait for that new mongoose movie.
And I also learned I'm okay with the stance that
if you eat ochre, you're a diddler. It's Corpin saying
make sure that dishwashers loaded right this skimpy kind daddy,

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Total douchebag, bagbag little incomplete douchebag.

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Talk less it all.

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We try boys,