BMMS 10-21-24

Welcome Back From The Weekend!!! Just The Boys Today, A Memebr Of One Direction Took A Header Off A Balcony, Sneaking Into Homes To Sniff Shoes, When Your Casket Falls Out Of The Hearst, If Amazon Can Do It So Can A Drug Dealer, This Man Ain't Dead Yet, Jeff Hensley Stops By, We Spoke To An Awesome Listener, & Did It Happen In Tulsa...Yup!!!!

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Speaker 1 (03:08):
She has a family emergency she's dealing with. She's fine
what she's dealing with, a family emergency, and so we
will hear back from her on Thursday, if I remember correctly.
And we've got tickets we're gonna give away for Corn
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dot com. We've got best and worst of the weekend.

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What's the best thing that happened to you this weekend
and the worst thing that happened to you this weekend.
We've got our listeners are awesome.

Speaker 10 (03:39):
See we talk with a listener, they share part of
their story about what's going on with them and how
they evolved through adversity. So we'll do that coming up,
and then Jeff Finsley will join us. You got a divorce, custody, guardianship,
name change, any of those things.

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We'll be in at.

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Nine to answer those questions. And we've been doing this
for a while. I'm still am like, huh.

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I wouldn't say I'm an expert on divorce, but based
off the number of times we've had that discussion with him,
I feel like I know a lot and.

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When we go over something, I'm like.

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Really still crazy the things we learn during his segment.
So if you have a question about divorce or custody
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Speaker 9 (04:38):
With us at nine o'clock.

Speaker 10 (04:41):
For Hinsley and associates over the weekend, this the crazy
story broke about that kid from One Direction that jumped
out of a third floor hotel. A famous kid was
you haven't heard about this? Uh dude, this is a
wild story.

Speaker 1 (04:57):
So One Direction's a boy mand right, Yeah, that's about
as much as I know about him, right right, here's
what I know about him.

Speaker 9 (05:05):
I like the Harry Styles, one of the guys in
the band.

Speaker 10 (05:07):
That's about it, Okay, Yeah, Simon it's a Simon cow thing.
And so this kid who was in the band, they're
no longer a band. They may do maybe off shows
here and there, but they're not a band. And he
was in Argentina and jumped off of his third story

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balcony to his death.

Speaker 7 (05:29):
Damn.

Speaker 10 (05:30):
Now, some he apparently struggled with addiction, and so some
are speculating that he was deep into some episode. Okay,
I don't know if any of that's true.

Speaker 7 (05:49):
Do we know what he was addicted to? Was he
addicted to pills or math, crack coke? Do we know? Yes?

Speaker 9 (05:59):
Okay, I think he liked the gamut.

Speaker 1 (06:04):
Okay, just give it all to me. Huh, yeah. I
think he had the things he liked. Alcohol, I believe
cocaine was one that.

Speaker 7 (06:10):
I saw in there.

Speaker 1 (06:12):
I'm trying to think, like, what any of those substances like,
I don't see people jumping out of a third story
building to plummet to their death high on pot, you.

Speaker 7 (06:25):
Know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (06:26):
So it's like, which one of these was he on
that made that that pushed him that far?

Speaker 7 (06:31):
Pills?

Speaker 1 (06:31):
Maybe I don't know that that's that seems more of
I'm just gonna lay here and go to sleep and
never wake up against cocaine and alcohol mixture.

Speaker 7 (06:40):
Okay.

Speaker 10 (06:41):
So the speculation, and again whatever the speculation is, is
that he bought because he was heavily watched. He got
dropped from his label because of his substance issues. I
mean this, he had his troubles, right, yeah, And that
he had taken a drug test right before they shown
him to giving him a drug test, but the hotel

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staff sold him drugs but they stuffed.

Speaker 9 (07:04):
It in a soap box.

Speaker 7 (07:06):
Okay.

Speaker 9 (07:07):
And the belief is he was on hallucinogens.

Speaker 7 (07:10):
I didn't even think about that.

Speaker 10 (07:12):
And he had a psychotic episode, Okay. I believe he
could fly aheader.

Speaker 7 (07:17):
Yeah, like I could fly. It jumps out.

Speaker 10 (07:19):
And apparently there's photos of him on the cement really
out there online. I haven't found them, nor have I
went looking for them.

Speaker 7 (07:27):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (07:28):
Again, maybe this can go on this ship of sale board.
I'm good at looking at dead people. Used to be
a time where you would get on like Faces of
Death or gore Gallery dot com.

Speaker 10 (07:39):
Right, in full honesty, that might be the thing for
me on the show. That's always been kind of a thing, uh,
watching people die or get like dead bodies.

Speaker 9 (07:48):
Is not awesome.

Speaker 1 (07:49):
I don't mind so much the seeing of the dead
bodies that don't bother me none. Like Splatter Fat Lady
is probably one that sticks into my brain. I found
that on the goreg' splatter.

Speaker 9 (08:01):
I don't know what this is.

Speaker 7 (08:01):
Google it.

Speaker 1 (08:02):
I'm good, Just tell me what it is. And it's
this woman who is four hundred pounds or more and
looks like she jumped, or well, it didn't really jump,
but you know, walked off a ledge and hit the
concrete below, and then you've got like ten feet of
skin stretched out and then just her little bitty skeleton

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and it's all you see.

Speaker 7 (08:24):
Splatter Fat Lady. You know, it was pretty insane.

Speaker 1 (08:27):
There is one out there that I cringe even thinking
about it, and I couldn't watch the entire video. But
it's a Russian video where a couple of guys get
together and beat a man in the woods with a hammer.

Speaker 7 (08:42):
Ouch.

Speaker 9 (08:43):
Yeah again, I haven't seen that one.

Speaker 1 (08:45):
Yeah, and I get so far into that I've remember
watched the entire thing, But once I hear that gurgling
from the man's getting beaten with the hammer, I'm like,
I'm good, I'm good.

Speaker 10 (08:55):
So in a long way around it, I'm kind of
with you on that. I'm good one watching people die.
I don't like going to open casket funerals. I don't
go up and view the body like I just I
think that I've been so close to death, not me
personally like, but around a lot of people I love
have died. Then I'm just like, I don't need another

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reminder they're gone. And you're right, those ones that are
really violent are not awesome either. No, and in a
movie it's different. I know it's fake, and I do
enough mental mess up in my head. I don't need
assistance from videos or pictures. And so anyway, so this
picture apparently is out there of him after he jumped

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off a third story building. You're like, oh, third story
is not that far, depending on how he landed.

Speaker 1 (09:45):
True that if he landed just took a header and
landed straight on his head, well, that's going to break
his skull open, that's going to break his neck. And
if he doesn't die, then he would definitely be paralyzed.

Speaker 7 (09:57):
I would imagine.

Speaker 10 (09:58):
I think you could also fall flat and punctural lung true, true,
or on your back maybe or on your ribs.

Speaker 7 (10:06):
To come through and maybe some internal bleating.

Speaker 1 (10:09):
Yeah, I don't think you have to take a you know,
land on your head. Yeah, because what three stories? That's
what fifteen maybe twenty at most?

Speaker 10 (10:17):
No, no, close, it's close. I always go with the
rule of ten on a story, right, so ten, twenty thirty, Okay,
that's still still quite the fall. Yeah, it's half this building,
you know, over half this building for sure. Okay, so
what we'll do, all right, we'll see how who survives.

Speaker 7 (10:37):
Damn it, wait till Lindsay gets back right.

Speaker 1 (10:45):
And what's so interesting is this is a really I
think any other time we'll get in this later. But
I was in New York City and we went by
the Dakota and like where Lenin's little memorial is, and
just still tons of people visiting. I'm not trying to
compare Direction and the Beatles, but.

Speaker 7 (11:02):
I don't know when Direction is way better.

Speaker 9 (11:04):
Lennon died in the you know, nineteen eighty.

Speaker 7 (11:06):
Uh huh.

Speaker 10 (11:06):
This guy died on what Friday? It's already out of
the new cycle. Really, yes, should be fair. I just
because I don't know who who one Direction do is?
I know a little bit about it that's not my
type of music.

Speaker 1 (11:19):
But I know they were huge, like and they were
huge twenty tens or whatever, and then they've kind of
fallen off. And then I think Harry Styles is the
only one that's really continued to do anything or at
least keep his name.

Speaker 9 (11:30):
I have a massive success.

Speaker 7 (11:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (11:32):
Yeah, yeah, So it doesn't surprise me that this is
already out of the news cycle. It would be like
somebody besides justin Timberlake and in Singing dying or you
see what I'm saying, Yes, somebody dying of an overdose. Eh, right,
I could see that somebody taking a header off a building.

(11:53):
That feels like such an odd news story that it
would garner more attention.

Speaker 10 (11:59):
That's why I'm I would think it at least make
it to Monday. Yeah, And to be honest, I actually
don't know what day he died because we were off
and I was traveling, so I just saw the thing
and I was like, damn, So I don't know, but
that is that's crazy, man, Yeah, that's crazy.

Speaker 1 (12:20):
I wonder what he took. You said it was might
have been a hallucin engin of so they're saying, yeah,
we won't know for like six weeks, but like a
psychotic episode.

Speaker 10 (12:27):
Some sort of hallucin engine. I mean, let's okay, I'll
name a drug.

Speaker 1 (12:31):
You tell me if that could cause you to take
a have a psychotic episode. We'll say this, have a
psychotic episode that could lead to you jumping, you know,
feeling the need to evacuate.

Speaker 9 (12:41):
That's what he was doing.

Speaker 10 (12:42):
He felt his life was in danger, and that was
the solution, right, all right, Well, let's just start easy.

Speaker 1 (12:49):
Let's let's go entry level caffeine, A strong cup of
coffee make you jump? No, I don't think I don't
think so either. Okay, weed, Nah, I don't think so.

Speaker 7 (13:02):
I don't think so.

Speaker 1 (13:03):
Even though it is technically labeled as in a hallucinogen,
I don't think it's gonna cause a manic episode to
make you jump out of a building.

Speaker 9 (13:13):
That's fair. That's fair, all right? Alcohol?

Speaker 1 (13:17):
Possibly, possibly, if there was depression involved, and he's like,
I'm just ready to kill you know, be done with
right now. You get drunk, get your nice bottle of scotch,
drink most of it, and then stumble your way out
to the balcony.

Speaker 10 (13:32):
I get the depression part. And he wasn't alone. He
was surrounded by some people, So I would think maybe
stumbling and falling, But I think if crawling up on
top of a bledge and then jumping off, I'm led
to believe by the stories I read he took a
run and then jumped Okay, not a climbed up on

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the thing and you know from force company footfall on
your hand.

Speaker 9 (13:55):
Oh you know what I'm saying. But I'm with you
on that, all right, Heroin.

Speaker 1 (14:01):
I don't know enough about heroin to be able to
say yes or no. From what I gather, people do
it and then they're like out for X.

Speaker 7 (14:10):
Amount of time.

Speaker 9 (14:11):
Yeah, I'm one of the impression. You can't even get
the needle out.

Speaker 1 (14:13):
Of your arm most times exactly, So I don't think
that that would be one that would cause that cocaine.

Speaker 7 (14:21):
Yeah, I could see.

Speaker 9 (14:22):
That math, Yes, crack Math.

Speaker 1 (14:26):
I'm gonna go back to that role quick, okay, because
part of me was like I said yes in the beginning,
but I feel like, you know, you're gonna start to
think about it and then get sidetracked with something else.

Speaker 7 (14:37):
You're like, all right, what do I need?

Speaker 1 (14:38):
I need everything I need to make sure that this
goes down accordingly. You know, and you get out there
on the ledge and you're like, oh, holy crap, I
forgot this, you know, and then you start you tear
out your your hotel room upside down, searching for whatever,
and you end up getting sidetracked and not killing yourself.
So I'm gonna go back on meth and say no,
I don't think it.

Speaker 10 (14:56):
I'm gonna go yes on math. If he took a
part in the balcony right, try to sell it, that
would be the only uh okay, and then he fell. Okay,
I forgot he'd taken it off. You said crack after that.

Speaker 1 (15:09):
Maybe shrooms possibly just simply because it is a hallucinogin
and everybody reacts differently.

Speaker 10 (15:18):
But I'm gonna put shrooms in the same cat Okay,
that's fair. Shrooms in the same category as we'd like.
It is a psychotic, But most people I know that
are on shrooms are pretty chill.

Speaker 1 (15:26):
It's usually been pretty true. I've never really seen anybody
on a bad mushroom trip before, so okay, acid, yeah,
I see that happening for sure. Of all the people
I've seen on bad trips, it's acid one hundred percent
of the time for me. I've seen people skits out
on LSD before, not to the point of where they're

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jumping off of balconies or whatever, but still bad trip.

Speaker 7 (15:50):
And you're like, you're trying to get them calm down.
There's nothing you can do about it.

Speaker 9 (15:53):
Yeah, and I was thinking this too.

Speaker 7 (15:55):
I want real quickly. I wanted to.

Speaker 10 (15:58):
See because yeah, so he's he's thirty one, right, thirty
one years old, right, totally young? Right, he had a
kid allegedly excuse me, his kid was with him? Really yeah,
like they were on vacation or whatever, traveling together. I
don't know if he's witnessed, but he was with like

(16:21):
people that loved him.

Speaker 7 (16:22):
Yeah, And.

Speaker 10 (16:24):
I don't know as someone who just came from a
family vacation. The idea of I got to get my
trip on right is a wild take at thirty one, Uh,
I see where you're no, no, your prior listen in
ban can do whatever. Your priorities are jacked if it is,

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I need to get plowed on a psychotic see, and
I'm taking age into a factor there.

Speaker 1 (16:54):
You say that as a man that damn near fifty, right, Yeah? Thanks,
who has I'll you know, grown that point in his
life but this cat is just now thirty one, so
he's still coming out of the twenties party phase, still
probably trying to hold on to it. Still wants to
party a little bit. Doesn't matter if he's got kids

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or not.

Speaker 7 (17:15):
Yeah, I know. So it's like, yeah, it's a Tuesday
and I'm gonna eat some acid. Yeah.

Speaker 10 (17:20):
I mean, he had a seven year old kid, and
to me, it's not just the age and now grown,
it's these are you know I got another person around me?

Speaker 7 (17:27):
Yeah?

Speaker 10 (17:27):
Yeah, but I'm the role model of how life should be.
But not everybody feels that same way and thinks the
same way as you. For him, he's probably and I'll listen,
I was in one direction.

Speaker 1 (17:40):
I was a big deal now and you can't stop
me from doing anything I don't wan't do.

Speaker 7 (17:46):
Damn.

Speaker 9 (17:46):
He dated Naomi Campbell.

Speaker 1 (17:47):
She's fifty four, by the way, good for him.

Speaker 7 (17:51):
Who's the winner in that one? It's gotta be her.

Speaker 1 (17:56):
I mean, if you date supermodels, she's one of the supermodels.
It's true she was a supermodel, so what but true dead?
I mean I would date a former supermodel for sure.

Speaker 11 (18:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (18:09):
Again to me, dying of suicid, it's I don't feel
like you can say enough of like it.

Speaker 1 (18:16):
This feels it was though it was suicidal.

Speaker 9 (18:18):
It sounds like it was caused by the drugs.

Speaker 10 (18:23):
Right now, maybe it magnified his problems, But I feel
it different than completely sober going.

Speaker 1 (18:31):
I don't want to live anymore, right, I feel like
that's a different type. Yeah, the drugs pushed the mental episode,
so the forefront, and then he acted on it or
created an unrealistic thought.

Speaker 7 (18:40):
Yeah for sure, right for sure.

Speaker 10 (18:43):
Yeah, so that sucks, man, But just a wild story
to come out about somebody so young, unnecessarily and a
kid who's gonna grow up childless.

Speaker 9 (18:54):
Yeah, all right, we got to take a break.

Speaker 7 (18:56):
We gotdless.

Speaker 10 (18:57):
He's already childless because he's a kid. Fair point. Maybe
life's weird. You of all the people, I feel like
should not be negating that statement. But I don't want
to take it into you're taking your own account.

Speaker 9 (19:09):
I'd hear me out.

Speaker 7 (19:11):
The kid's seven.

Speaker 1 (19:12):
I don't think he's banging anything right now, but I
could be wrong.

Speaker 10 (19:17):
They are maturing faster. Life is wild, old man. Uh,
we got best and worst of the weekend. We've got
tickets to corn. We're gonna giveaway. We've got news quickies
when we return.

Speaker 2 (19:27):
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Good morning, It's The Big Mad Morning Show. Nine one,
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Speaker 12 (20:09):
It's time for news quakies, world news, local news and
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Gimpi and Lindsay with what's going on news quakies from
The Big Man Morning Showing nineties out of five.

Speaker 1 (20:20):
AMoD Man put on probation for sneaking into neighbors' homes
to smell their shoes. This comes out of Greece. As
a matter of fact, a twenty eight year old man
have been sneaking into his neighbor's homes at night simply
to sniff their shoes, and he finally got caught. Well,
he's been caught several times, I guess you could say,
because the neighbors took to his family and they're like, hey,

(20:44):
can you tell your boy to quit breaking into our
house and smelling our shoes. It's weird, and the family
never really did anything about it. So the police finally
got involved. They caught the man, They took him in.
He went to jail and goes to court and tell
the judge he admitted to having a foot fetish and

(21:05):
expressed his embarrassment, as to which the judge says, okay, well,
I'll tell you what. You're gonna have to go to
therapy while you're on probation. He ended up just getting
a suspended one month prison sentence for sneaking in and
being weird.

Speaker 9 (21:24):
Would you.

Speaker 1 (21:26):
Somebody's in, Like you hear some rustling in your bedroom
and you go in and somebody's like, what are you doing?

Speaker 7 (21:33):
What the hell are you doing? Bro?

Speaker 1 (21:35):
Well, first I'm gonna get my gun because I don't
know what this person's carrying. Uh, But yes, so I
get my gun, and then I pointed at the man
or woman and say, what the hell are you doing?

Speaker 7 (21:47):
Why are you sniffing my shoes? Get the hell out
of here.

Speaker 1 (21:52):
I don't believe you would ask that, because I don't
know if you really want to know the answer.

Speaker 9 (21:56):
Right turns me on man so gross. Yeah, I.

Speaker 1 (22:04):
Understand a foot fetish, I do the sensuality behind that,
but shoes short of being brand spanking new are stinky regardless.
I don't know. If I'm wearing, I might tell them
to take them and leave and don't come back, okay,
because I don't want to wear them and go, Hey,
I want.

Speaker 9 (22:24):
To hear a funny story about these shoes.

Speaker 7 (22:26):
See now, I probably would keep them. Be like you'll
never guess.

Speaker 1 (22:30):
I woke up middle of the night how to take
a whiz, and there's this guy smelling these shoes. These
these these ones, these exact ones. He was hunkered down
by the bed, just sniffing up all the athletes.

Speaker 10 (22:46):
Nasty funeral home apologizes after corpse falls from hearst into traffic.
It's happened in Poland, as they have made a They're
real sorry. Hades Funeral Service UH says it's an unexpected
technical failure that the lock of their funeral hearse was

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the cause of a corpse falling out of the back
and into traffic. Their apology called it an unfortunate event
end quote, and profusely apologize to all those who were
disappointed and upset by what happened. Reportedly, a man was
left terrified thinking that he had hit someone after seeing
a body in the road and a sheet on his

(23:28):
car window. The body was uninjured. Ummm, well, I mean,
I mean, I think they just rephrased the sentence wrong.

Speaker 9 (23:42):
The body was not more injured.

Speaker 1 (23:44):
Right, because it's dad. You can't injure the dead. They're dead,
you can. What's the phrase that we see in some
of these stories, we get violate a corpse?

Speaker 7 (23:57):
Okay, yeah, yeah, after you're doing something sexual.

Speaker 9 (24:00):
But surely there's no crime.

Speaker 10 (24:02):
If somebody's a body falls out of a car and
I hit it, surely they're not going to charge me
with the crime.

Speaker 1 (24:07):
I don't think so. I don't see where you would
be a fault for that. That would be like if
a load of onionsk fell off the back of a
truck and you ran into that.

Speaker 9 (24:15):
Not true.

Speaker 10 (24:17):
If a corpse is laying on the side of the
road and I kick it, they can get me on
a charge. Okay, desecrating that was the word that's' I'm
violating this corpse.

Speaker 1 (24:27):
You went up and you purposely intentionally kicked this corpse,
so therefore, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 10 (24:31):
I did unintentionally not hit the corpse in the street.
I mean you could swerve out away.

Speaker 1 (24:36):
I do squirrels, those things they move fast anyway, dead
body's not moving really fast. Yeah, yeah, that's a bizarre one.
Dealer used drone to deliver fentanyl. This comes out of
California where a thirty four year old guy named Christopher
Laney used an unregistered drone on several occasions to make

(25:01):
his drug deals. And see all this came to light
because I guess he had delivered some fentanyl to a
church parking lot with a drone, dropped it off Da
da da da, and then the drone goes back and
then this person was waiting for the drugs picked up
the drugs and then gave it to a woman and
that woman died of an overdose the next day. So

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there he started digging into this and they find out
that mister Laney here is the guy that's responsible. He's
the fentanyl dealer. So the DEA starts checking in on him.
They ended up doing a raid on his house. That's
where they found they found meth, and they found several
ghost guns and they also found more fentanyl. So they

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took him in for all the drugs and the gun charges.
They found more videos of him making deliveries on this drone,
the DJI brand drone. Nonetheless, they went ahead and took
he's looking at a minimum of twenty five years if
he's convicted.

Speaker 9 (26:05):
Hey, twenty five years, dude.

Speaker 1 (26:07):
Four of those counts are using an unmanned aircraft in
furtherance of drug trafficking. I've heard of people doing that,
delivering stuff to prisons that way via drone. Right, Well,
they think it's anonymous. It's like, you know, posting on
social media. You think no one's going to know it's you.

Speaker 7 (26:23):
Yeah, it doesn't work that way.

Speaker 10 (26:26):
Man declared brain dead wakes up during organ harvesting. Oh,
it's happened in Kentucky, where Anthony Thomas Hoover the Second
had been declared brain dead, woke up while surgeons were
preparing to harvest his organs after suffering a drug overdose. However,
he was taken to Baptist Health quote unquote hospital, where

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doctors informed his family that he had no brain activity.
His sisters said they were told that Hoover had agreed
to organ donation, and the hospital even held a ceremony
in his honor before proceeding with the surgery. As a
surgery to retrieve his organs began, one of the doctors
noticed signs of life when his eyes open and seemed

(27:07):
to track movement, but staff dismissed it as reflexes. I'm
going to pause the story right there for a minute.
I'm going to read the sentence again and think about
why this is the rule. Okay, they noticed signs of
life when the Hoover's eyes open and seem to track movement,

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but staff dismissed it as reflexes. This means it is
not uncommon for bodies eyes to open and eyes move
around during organ harvesting.

Speaker 1 (27:41):
The eyes opening, I've heard of that before. You know,
I like funerals and stuff like that. But to be
moving that throws that's weird, and they went, that's normal.

Speaker 7 (27:54):
It's like you know when the scorel twitches after you
shoot it.

Speaker 10 (27:57):
About an hour into the operation, a doctor came out
and told the family that Hoover wasn't ready and had
woken up. He made attempts to say hey, I'm here,
but it was kind of ignored, according to the doctor,
adding that the procedure was stopped after he showed many.

Speaker 7 (28:16):
Okay, full disclosure.

Speaker 1 (28:17):
I've not read this story completely, so I'm reading it
as I go, and you just witnessed me and my
inability to stay professional. But here here, I'll read it
again without the interruption, adding the procedure was stopped after
the patient showed too many signs of life again, too many,
not one, not a sign, too many. Well that was weird.

(28:43):
Well that was weird too. That's fine, it's fine, since
this is.

Speaker 9 (28:46):
Our dead body's supposed to.

Speaker 1 (28:48):
Do though, that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 9 (28:49):
I don't know.

Speaker 7 (28:49):
It's fine, it's fine.

Speaker 9 (28:51):
Doctor, he's he's saying, I'm alive.

Speaker 6 (28:54):
Uh huh.

Speaker 9 (28:54):
It's just part of it.

Speaker 7 (28:56):
Right, refla gas Right, you're you're in things.

Speaker 10 (29:01):
Yeah, yeah, lady woman who doesn't understand science. Since then,
Hoover has struggled with mobility, memory, and speech. In his
case has sparked an investigation by state and federal officials.
They've shared the family story and hopes that may prevent
similar situations, saying, quote, if it could save one other life,

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it's worth it. Both Baptist Health and the Kentucky Organ
Donor Affiliates have denied wrongdoing. The Kentucky Organ Donor Affiliates like,
hey man, that's not us, right, We're just the intermediate, right,
We're just the middleman here.

Speaker 7 (29:40):
We're not actually taking the organ.

Speaker 9 (29:42):
We weren't even in the room.

Speaker 1 (29:44):
I wonder how many times that's happened before, you know,
And this is just the one that like got caught.

Speaker 10 (29:50):
H I don't know anything about This is gonna be
a weird tens. I don't know anything about organ harvesting,
so I don't know, Like, what what is the do
they just take another's doctor's word for it? Okay, I've
told this story before on the air. Well, my oldest
was six months old. She got back tiamanningitis became miss sepsis.

(30:12):
We were in the hospital for thirteen days and we
were in the er and the er nurse was like,
it's this, it's this, and Dad, we're gonna put you
up into uh an ICU unit pick it's called pick you,
and we're gonna put you in the pick you and
uh you know, we'll evaluate more from there, we'll stabilize
her here and then she'll go up.

Speaker 4 (30:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (30:30):
And so we went up and the doctor comes in
right away and he's like da da da da da,
And we're like, hey, the nurse. The doctor down there
said it was X y Z, and he went okay.
He totally discounted what she said. Now, maybe that's a
good practice, because but when it comes to death, do
doctors suddenly go mad?

Speaker 9 (30:50):
If they say so?

Speaker 7 (30:51):
Yeah, right?

Speaker 1 (30:52):
You would think there would be I don't know, let's
check a polse uh is he still warmed to the touch.
I don't know, a mirror underneath some nostrils.

Speaker 10 (31:02):
How about a pop up screen that says, hey, just
don't unplug the computer while we're resetting.

Speaker 7 (31:06):
Right, you think there'd be the other one?

Speaker 9 (31:08):
Are you sure you want a hard reset?

Speaker 7 (31:10):
Right? Right?

Speaker 9 (31:12):
Something? I don't know.

Speaker 10 (31:14):
Like, you know, when they go to get surgery, they
right are on the arm. If it's the right arm,
they put an R on it so they know they're doing. Hey,
what's your name? What's your like? You get it's over,
You're like, guys, right, I'm still me right, But they
do not. It's harder to do with death.

Speaker 9 (31:30):
I get it. They can't answer. But all right, we
got to take a break. We'll be back.

Speaker 2 (31:36):
More of The Big Man Morning Show is next nine.

Speaker 10 (31:46):
Good morning, It's The Big Man Morning Show. Nine one,
eight four six oh kmo D. Lindsay is out today
dealing with the family things.

Speaker 9 (31:54):
She should be back on Thursday. Little results from our.

Speaker 10 (32:00):
NFL predictions will start with not the obvious Raiders Rams.
Gimbi picked the Raiders. Yeah, and the Rams were dominant.
And if I remember right, even the Rams quarterback got injured.
So there until like the private guardment shew be the

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guy again. Uh and so the Rams won. So Lindsay
and I got that one right. Vikings Lions proved to
be the game of the day. Hell yeah, it was
an awesome game. And uh so the Vikings lose their
oh and the Lions won. Gimpie got that one right.
And then the the game that really mattered also might

(32:43):
have been the worst game of the day, and that
is the Chiefs forty nine ers. As give of course,
Gimby took the forty nine ers and the uh, the
Chiefs got to win. And I know people are gonna say, like, yeah,
Patrick Mahomes played. His passing game was garbage, but he

(33:03):
ron he put boy when he ran through that defender
and right knocked him right on him. That is not
supposed to happen.

Speaker 7 (33:10):
I saw that. I was like, oh, when.

Speaker 1 (33:12):
He ran down the sidelines and stopped and people flew
by him.

Speaker 9 (33:15):
You're like, what are you doing right?

Speaker 7 (33:17):
Right? Is he's out about? No, he's still in and
he's still going. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (33:21):
So the Chiefs are still their undefeated team. And I
was thinking that's got to be really painful for all
you Chiefs haters. Yeah, for the Chiefs to still be
winning games and playing at least Patrick ma Holmes is
not playing well right right? Yeah, we played like hot
garbage man, That's all there was to it. We were
out so many people. Party couldn't, he can't.

Speaker 9 (33:44):
We're out.

Speaker 10 (33:44):
So I don't know why they kept saying this in
the game. The Chiefs are out so many people, right,
But they still got a lot of their big contenders
in there though, No.

Speaker 1 (33:50):
Like our whole receiver corps out, our running.

Speaker 9 (33:56):
Back corps out.

Speaker 1 (33:57):
Debo got a little sickly, can't let it. I know,
I want to know what he had, right, because he
had the flu.

Speaker 7 (34:03):
Yeah he was fine.

Speaker 1 (34:04):
You know, It's like it came down this morning, all right,
what are you hungover?

Speaker 7 (34:08):
You got the flu? What is you got a little hold?
You know what's going on here?

Speaker 1 (34:13):
That's you know, And listen if Michael Jordan could play
with the flu, soa can you get in there and play?

Speaker 10 (34:17):
Yeah, but he was taking oxygen, so I'm gonna make
I'm an probably some sort of respiratory thing.

Speaker 1 (34:22):
Yeah, and I'm sure all that running is not good
on your lungs if you can't breathe.

Speaker 9 (34:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (34:27):
Nonetheless, it seems like we didn't have anybody.

Speaker 10 (34:32):
And but it doesn't help that Brock pretty can't throw
his screens the way he likes to.

Speaker 7 (34:37):
Oh here, hey, hey, you on the other side, take
this ball for me.

Speaker 9 (34:40):
Eh, god, damn it.

Speaker 1 (34:43):
Two points will tie the game. Two points would tie
the game. Instead of doing that, well, he just go
ahead and kick it for one.

Speaker 9 (34:52):
And then with it.

Speaker 7 (34:53):
Oh good lord.

Speaker 9 (34:55):
Yeah, it wouldn't matter either way.

Speaker 10 (34:57):
No, the score was different, and everybody's you know, Patrick
Mahomes and so bad he's but listen to this. This
is a really great stat. He still breaks he's still
make breaking records. They're just in the wrong direction. But
Patrick Mahomes and Peyton Manning are the only qbs in
the last thirty years to throw more interceptions than touchdowns
while leading their teams to six And oh, ain't something.

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I'll take that stat right that's a fine company to
be in.

Speaker 7 (35:21):
I wonder how long they can keep this up.

Speaker 10 (35:24):
Surely they can't go the entire season undefeated. After how
many games are people going to stop asking this? It
happened after the first game, people said that, and then
the second game, and then the third game, and then
the fourth game, and then the fifth game, and here
we are again, people going how often it may be possible?

Speaker 7 (35:40):
It could be. It could be that.

Speaker 9 (35:41):
They just figure out how to make it ith.

Speaker 10 (35:43):
The refs are being First of all, the number of
holds that I saw that did not get called from
the forty nine it was wild, So I don't want
to hear that the Chiefs got all these breaks.

Speaker 1 (35:55):
It was a trash ass game, and I almost turned
it off, but I was like, no, I'm in it.

Speaker 7 (36:00):
A minute for the long haul. You never know what
could happen.

Speaker 10 (36:03):
You and I talked about you, and I talked about
having a watch party and like getting people together and
watching it out and inviting listeners and stuff.

Speaker 9 (36:11):
How happy are you we didn't do that.

Speaker 7 (36:12):
I'm so glad.

Speaker 1 (36:13):
I don't want to see everybody in David Buster's watch
me cry.

Speaker 7 (36:18):
It was a terrible game.

Speaker 1 (36:20):
It was not a game that people should be excited about,
that's for sure.

Speaker 7 (36:25):
Congratulations, hey six, and oh man.

Speaker 9 (36:29):
We'll get it together one of these days.

Speaker 1 (36:31):
I think it's safe to say the ship may have
sailed on you guys going back, We're.

Speaker 10 (36:38):
Moving to another sports. The stage for the World Series
has been sent. The Dodgers took down the Mets ten
to five in Game six of the National League Championship.

Speaker 9 (36:45):
Series from Los Angeles.

Speaker 10 (36:50):
Tommy Edman Edmund and we'll get my wife's name out
of your mouth. Smith club two run homers to send
LA to its first World Series since winning in twenty twenty.
The most successful team in Major League Baseball history awaits.
The Yankees are eyeing their twenty eighth title after taking
down the Guardians in the American League Championship Series. It's

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New York's first time back on the big stage since
winning at All in two thousand and nine.

Speaker 7 (37:18):
I was really.

Speaker 1 (37:19):
Hoping that the Mets would have gone to the World Series,
just because they've always been the underdogs.

Speaker 9 (37:26):
Yeah, good story. It would have been a good story.

Speaker 1 (37:28):
You're right, absolutely, But I mean the Dodgers are solid,
so they are clearly the better team won.

Speaker 10 (37:33):
Hey, and from a media perspective, you won an East
West Coast World Series. Yeah, yeah, you get more viewership
that way. But a sub boy series would have been awesome.
They've done it before, But that would have been fun
to see play out. But it was Yeah, I think
you got the two dominant teams plans. You're gonna have
Showy in the in the World series and Aaron Judge

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easily the two best ballplayers. Yeah, potentially the al in
l MVP playing in the world. That's pretty spectacular to watch.

Speaker 11 (38:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (38:04):
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be back on Thursday. Let's go and do best in more.
First of the weekend. What's the best thing that happened
this weekend? What's the worst thing that happened this weekend?

Speaker 10 (39:05):
Bmms and whatever that is to eight two, nine, four five,
gim be what's the best and what's the worst?

Speaker 1 (39:11):
I don't have to say the best probably would be Saturday. Saturday, Saturday,
I get a well, so, like, let's backtrack a little bit.

Speaker 7 (39:19):
Friday night, I go out.

Speaker 1 (39:21):
I'm at the pump like I usually am on a
Friday night, and I'm just there playing darts by myself,
and all of a sudden, my brother and my nephew
come rolling in with my brother's old lady. It was
my nephew's birthday, and he wanted to go out and
have some drinks. So they're like, yeah, let's just stop
by the pump. So that was a pleasant surprise. And

(39:42):
we sat here and we played darts and and we
had some drinks or whatnot, and then we went home,
and of course, you know, when you're drinking, that's one
thing we do the best when when we're drinking, my
brother and I we'll make plans for the next day,
and most of the time we're too hung old to
follow through with said plans. Right, so we're like all

(40:04):
three of us, me and him and his son.

Speaker 7 (40:07):
Oh, let's get up and we'll go we'll play disc
golf Saturday morning. All right, cool, let's do that.

Speaker 1 (40:13):
So we go home, you know, and I'll wake up
slyly hungover, but I'm still feeling it, so let's go play.

Speaker 7 (40:19):
So me and my brother went. The nephew, his kid
did not make it.

Speaker 1 (40:23):
He said, I'll probably sleep until two o'clock in the afternoon,
but give me a shot anyway, so try to get
a hold of him. He didn't make it through, but
my brother and I we both played, and we went
out to Mohawk Park where they had redone one of
the courses out there, and we got to check it
out and it was solid. It was a good round.

(40:45):
Got lost because there's no markings out there at all whatsoever.
So we did the best with what we could. So
that was a good way to start the day. And
then you know, he goes home, and then I go
home and then we meet up later on with all
the friends and the little crew or a little Shnanigans group,
and we all went to Octoberfest Saturday. That was probably

(41:06):
the best part of the entire weekend, just going out
with those guys. I don't want to say cause some trouble,
but you know, just just do what we do out
there enjoying the Octoberfest, you know, probably drinking more than
what we should and and I went home and that
was that after that. So that was the best part
of the weekend. And I have to say that the
worst part of the weekend would probably be waking up

(41:27):
yesterday after all the Octoberfest shenanigans that we had shots
and beers on beers on beers. I was so hung
over yesterday it was so bad. I got up at
like and that's the worst part of the weekend. I
got up as like eight o'clock yesterday morning, right just

(41:49):
feeling it all right, get my robe on, go make
some coffee. It's eight o'clock, feel like ass, lay down
on the couch. Next thing you know, I'm waking up
at like twelve thirty in the afternoon on the couch
in my robe. Dogs are just out doing dog things,

(42:11):
you know. I'm just like, oh yeah, and then just
laid there as a miserable mess. Right, I was like, oh, hey,
I go up to the depot and watch the game,
you know, go up to the pump and watch the
Chiefs and Niners.

Speaker 7 (42:25):
No, no, I'm not doing that.

Speaker 1 (42:28):
I'm not doing that. I got up and I made
hamburger helper for lunch. Shit, and then I ate that,
and then I laid there in misery some more, and
then finally came to right.

Speaker 7 (42:39):
About about like two o'clock.

Speaker 1 (42:40):
I was like, all right, I'm I'm feeling a little
bit better, and then got up and watched the Niners
played like dog ass and I.

Speaker 10 (42:51):
Was that best and worst of the weekend. What's the
best part of the weekend? What's the worst part of
the weekend? Bem a mess? And whatever that is?

Speaker 1 (42:57):
To eight two, nine four five. I posted some photos
on the Facebook. I took we took our kids to
New York City for fall break, and my wife had
never been. I've been a bunch of times. I love
New York City. It is wild how many people are there.
I got up on Friday morning and went to go

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do jiu jitsu at a place near our hotel and
people ever I got it was like six o'clock in
the morning walking just people everywhere, and it was awesome.

Speaker 10 (43:31):
And the photos that I posted are. We went to
this place called some at one Vanderbilt.

Speaker 7 (43:39):
It is a.

Speaker 1 (43:41):
It is a skyscraper where you get to go to
the top and you go up ninety some odd floors
in like no time at all, like less than two minutes,
and you don't even feel it. And we went at
sunset and these are some of the videos from up there.

Speaker 7 (44:01):
That's cool.

Speaker 9 (44:02):
Yeah, And they.

Speaker 1 (44:03):
Serve cocktails and stuff, so you get to.

Speaker 7 (44:04):
Be up there.

Speaker 10 (44:05):
They have a room like Florida ceiling windows. Everything's mirrored.

Speaker 1 (44:11):
You gotta wear special shoes, which you can see the
photo one of the photos that's all mirrored, so it
looks like it's trippy.

Speaker 9 (44:17):
Okay, went to Central Park, which Central.

Speaker 10 (44:21):
Park is just wild. It's so cool there. Yeah, so
many different things. I didn't realize how many rocks are
in Central Park. Now that sounds like a really stupid
thing to say out loud, but.

Speaker 1 (44:32):
Like really massive, massive, massive rocks.

Speaker 7 (44:37):
Rocks.

Speaker 9 (44:38):
Yeah, it's wild.

Speaker 7 (44:39):
Man.

Speaker 10 (44:41):
We went to a couple of places that Mike from
Andandlini's recommended for pizza and stuff like that, and had
like maybe one of the best pizzas I've ever had.

Speaker 1 (44:51):
I was gonna ask, were you disappointed by any of them,
because that seems to be like the mecca for pizza.

Speaker 10 (44:57):
Yeah, it's just a different style of pizza.

Speaker 9 (45:00):
But no, it did not. It did not disappoint.

Speaker 1 (45:04):
But we went to this place called Italy, which is
like four floors of different types of restaurants, and I
had a pizza place in there, and we ate pizza
and just and then our last night we went to
the Summit Vanderbilt playing and we did pizzas all we
stopped pizza places all the way back to our hotel. Okay,
and so that was pretty awesome. So when you go

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on this pizza tour, are you getting just regular papperoni?

Speaker 10 (45:28):
Just depending on what we're feeling, but usually it was
either pepperoni or it was margarita.

Speaker 9 (45:32):
Like that's kind of what we went with because our
pizza choices.

Speaker 1 (45:35):
I don't know if you're going for like some specialty
barbecue no pizza or whatever.

Speaker 10 (45:40):
No, see cool things that I saw, like outside of
the normal cool things there. I mean, you can't even
get near Trump Tower. The amount of security is just wild.
How much security.

Speaker 9 (45:55):
Uh, it was crazy. How safe I felt?

Speaker 7 (45:59):
Really yeah, with that many people around or dude.

Speaker 1 (46:02):
There's people ever reware, but I it's I felt safe.

Speaker 9 (46:08):
I never was like stay close now, I'll take that back.

Speaker 10 (46:13):
We were on a subway coming back from the Naturally
History Museum and there was like a homeless person drug
I don't know what tell They were laying on a
bench and dirty socks, you know, hair, and they were
like mumbling or whatever, and I just kind of kept
an eye on him, make sure you didn't jump up
and snatch my children and run off the train, which

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is a wild thing to even think is a possibility,
but you just kind of get into that mode.

Speaker 9 (46:38):
That was the only time that I was like, ah,
that's nice.

Speaker 10 (46:41):
I actually felt there was in the airport, I felt more.
There was a guy acting erratic, yelling and screaming at everybody.
I felt that was more concerning to me than anything else.

Speaker 7 (46:52):
That's normal, though, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (46:54):
But this was like not like why can't I sit
in first class? This is just somebody running. It was
really are what'd your girls think about riding on the
underground train?

Speaker 9 (47:03):
They thought that was awesome, dude.

Speaker 10 (47:05):
So my wife and I decided we would pony up
the money and we took a helicopter from the airport
to Manhattan really instead of getting a car.

Speaker 1 (47:14):
Right, I look at you, miss rich Bands. Hey listen,
still cheaper than Disney World. So think about that, right,
It sounds crazy, I hear you, but so it was.

Speaker 9 (47:24):
It took five minutes.

Speaker 7 (47:26):
Wow.

Speaker 10 (47:26):
Now, in comparison, we took an uber from our hotel
to the airport on the way home, and it took
forty five damn at four in the morning.

Speaker 7 (47:37):
Damn.

Speaker 10 (47:38):
So that's how much of a difference. Anyway, So we
take the helicopter. Matter of fact, the ride from the
helicopter pad to our hotel, which was nine tenths of
a mile, took twenty five minutes.

Speaker 9 (47:48):
Damn anyway, And so that was a little trippy.

Speaker 7 (47:52):
I could.

Speaker 9 (47:53):
I'm fine if I never do that again.

Speaker 7 (47:54):
Really.

Speaker 1 (47:55):
Yeah, it was beautiful. Yeah, dude, It's just very bizarre
and uneasy. It's like moving around and you're like Kobe,
it's a very weird feeling, right, right, But that was
super cool.

Speaker 10 (48:08):
Fo Shorts is just it's just crazy, the amount of stimulation,
like there's just so many people all the time.

Speaker 9 (48:15):
Everywhere, and that's just like a shop schortz.

Speaker 1 (48:18):
Yeah, it's the toy store from Bigy.

Speaker 7 (48:22):
Yeah yah, got you, got you okay.

Speaker 1 (48:23):
And they do like a like a Barbie experience thing
and you know that's fun.

Speaker 7 (48:27):
Yeah, yeah, it's fun.

Speaker 1 (48:28):
And then we went into the American Girls store because
I have daughters and they love American Girl dolls. And
how much did you lay down at an American Girl Yeah, no,
kidd for two dolls?

Speaker 7 (48:44):
Huh.

Speaker 9 (48:44):
One of them didn't want a full doll. They wanted
something else.

Speaker 1 (48:46):
Okay, but yeah you get like a half a doll
like babies, like babies. Okay, yeah, yeah, that's fun.

Speaker 7 (48:54):
So it was the worst part out of all.

Speaker 1 (48:55):
I mean just seeing the bill this morning, okay, checking
my credit card, right, but yeah, it was. It was
an awesome core memory absolutely to see like see them
be like whoa. Well, first day, we we take a helicopter,
we land, we go to.

Speaker 10 (49:11):
The Slime Museum, right, which is that might be the
worst and uh we get home, we get back to
the hotel and the girls are like, I don't know
how we top today, And they said that every day.

Speaker 9 (49:23):
So I was like, ah, that's pretty awesome. Like I
think we managed to make.

Speaker 1 (49:27):
It work, did you, Because I know your girls in
Spider Man, and I think that was part of the
that was the main reason.

Speaker 7 (49:32):
Yeah, did you find Spider Man?

Speaker 1 (49:35):
I was expecting Times Square to have like a bunch
of characters dressed up to get pictures.

Speaker 7 (49:40):
Didn't see a one. Wow. You know those guys need
a street performers need a day off to Yeah.

Speaker 1 (49:47):
Yeah, it was just crazy time score. It's just everybody
should go to New York.

Speaker 9 (49:54):
It is the The.

Speaker 1 (49:58):
Insignificance you feel in a city with eight million people
is wild. Yeah, you're just a spec that's it, just
another dot walking.

Speaker 10 (50:06):
Those photos that I have when I took from the
skyscraper and you look down and you don't see people
on the street, but there's people everywhere.

Speaker 9 (50:16):
Everywhere. It's crazy.

Speaker 7 (50:20):
Oh yeah, I like to go. I've never been in
New York City. I'll go at least once.

Speaker 1 (50:24):
Yeah, spend a day and then maybe I don't know,
venture out and find other areas around there to go to.
One of the revelations I had was no gas station.
I never saw gas station until we drove to the airport.
Really well, I guess it makes sense. I mean a
lot of walking in the city least, you know, the
movies would lead you to believe that, you know. And
maybe the taxi cabs have their own gas pumps back

(50:47):
at their base.

Speaker 7 (50:48):
I don't know.

Speaker 10 (50:49):
And then the other thing I thought was fascinating is
the drivers were nice. Everybody was nice, right, because it's
got the uh, it's got the reputation for everybody's being asshole.
I'm just talking like driving and somebody's trying to merge
in and people let them and nobody's like, eh, you
saw off a bitch.

Speaker 7 (51:07):
Right if we get over here.

Speaker 1 (51:10):
Yes, it was wild to experience that, but it was, Yeah,
it was fantastic. It was really weird to be walking
into work this morning and like, I can go from
when I leave my house to come here and not
see one soul, right, and maybe not even see one car,
just depending on what time I'm leaving, And it takes

(51:31):
me twenty five thirty minutes to get here. And I
went two blocks and saw like thirty people at six
in the morning.

Speaker 9 (51:38):
It's crazy. It's wild. It's a wild city.

Speaker 7 (51:40):
Man.

Speaker 10 (51:41):
Best and Worst of the weekend Best two Jelly Roll
concerts in three days. Wow, worse got home at one
this morning and and.

Speaker 9 (51:50):
Up for work at five. You saw two concerts and three.

Speaker 7 (51:54):
I think if you see one, you really don't need
to really see.

Speaker 1 (51:56):
Anyone on the same tour. H I feel like it
would be the same. Yeah, I guess I've hear that
big of a Jelly roll fan. Best my all Dance
band had a soul Shaker, had a great show at
Maggie's Saturday night. Worst we forgot our soul Shaker band
banner hanging at the gig that we have to go

(52:17):
back and pick up today.

Speaker 11 (52:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (52:19):
Best thing got to go to the ou thing. Worst thing?
Oh you lost? Oh you.

Speaker 1 (52:27):
I was looking at uh, I was looking after schedule
and just tell me terrible losses that they have had
this year. Oh and they a done not like close
loss like oh we lost by field goal blowouts. I'm
just like, oh my goodness.

Speaker 7 (52:44):
Yeah, and well, one of.

Speaker 10 (52:46):
The arguments people are like, well, he's a defensive coach.
They're getting blown out. Yeah, yeah, with maybe one of
the best linebackers in the game.

Speaker 7 (52:55):
Yeah, we can't win them all.

Speaker 9 (53:00):
All right, we gotta take a break. We'll be back.

Speaker 2 (53:03):
Tell USA's morning show.

Speaker 13 (53:04):
Is Good morning, it's the Big Man Morning Show.

Speaker 9 (53:17):
Nine one eight four six, Oh k m O. Let's
play a game the way this is gonna do a.

Speaker 1 (53:35):
Little uh flick off.

Speaker 9 (53:39):
Sorry to remember the name of the game. I'm gonna
give you three movie quotes.

Speaker 10 (53:43):
You got to tell me the movie they are associated with,
and if you get it right, you're gonna get a
pair of tickets to see Corn Wednesday Anthon by ok
Center nine eight four six, Oh k m O D.

Speaker 9 (53:55):
Nine one eight four six, oh k m O D.
Let's go to the and see who we got here.
Good morning, you're on the air.

Speaker 4 (54:01):
What is your name, Sean?

Speaker 7 (54:04):
Sean? How are you today? Buddy?

Speaker 1 (54:07):
All right, all right, buddy, I'm gonna give you three
movie quotes. Turn your radio down for me. You're gonna
get three movie quotes. You've got to get at least two, right, Okay,
all right.

Speaker 10 (54:17):
Okay, turn your radio down for me. I can't move forward, man,
because there's a delay.

Speaker 4 (54:21):
Yeah, I turned it off, thank you.

Speaker 9 (54:24):
All right.

Speaker 10 (54:24):
So here's your first one. I feel like this is
pretty easy. But the quote is you're gonna need a
bigger boat. You're gonna need a bigger boat.

Speaker 9 (54:37):
What movie is that?

Speaker 8 (54:38):
From I don't know.

Speaker 1 (54:48):
Oh man, it's easily like one of the top movie
quotes of all time. Friend Titanic close.

Speaker 9 (55:01):
But no, it's incorrect. But don't worry.

Speaker 7 (55:03):
You got so.

Speaker 1 (55:04):
You got to get these next two, right, Okay, I'm
gonna make him an offer he can't refuse. Corn tickets
are on the line. I'm gonna make him an offer

(55:25):
he can't refuse.

Speaker 10 (55:33):
Indecent proposal. That is incorrect as well. Man, the first
one was Jaws. That one was The Godfather. You needed
to get at least one right to keep going. Man,
I'm sorry, brother, have a good day.

Speaker 8 (55:49):
Thank you.

Speaker 9 (55:53):
I was like, man, I'm teeing it up today.

Speaker 1 (55:55):
Yeah, those were easy, easy.

Speaker 9 (56:01):
We're gonna get somebody.

Speaker 7 (56:02):
Okay. I was going to ask what the third one is.
We're gonna go another round.

Speaker 9 (56:05):
I like, yeah, good.

Speaker 7 (56:06):
Morning, you're on the air. What is your name?

Speaker 1 (56:08):
Briar Brier?

Speaker 7 (56:09):
How are you, buddy?

Speaker 11 (56:10):
I'm good?

Speaker 7 (56:11):
How are you good?

Speaker 9 (56:12):
All right?

Speaker 10 (56:12):
The tickets for corner on the line. You got to
get at least two of the three, right, Okay, let's
do it. First one, There's no place like home. Wizard
of Awe, excellent job. You only need one more to
get the uh tickets? Okay, all right, why so serious?

Speaker 6 (56:36):
Uh, that's the joker.

Speaker 14 (56:42):
Uh, the Dark Knight.

Speaker 10 (56:45):
The Dark Knight is correct, Dude, congratulations, prior you're getting
tickets for corn.

Speaker 11 (56:50):
But hey, what's the third one? What's the third one?

Speaker 9 (56:52):
The third one is I'm your father?

Speaker 6 (56:57):
Uh impart strikes back?

Speaker 1 (57:00):
Yeah, I would accept that are Star Wars the Empire
strike Yeah, yeah, exactly, man, congratulations, brother, hang on the line.

Speaker 9 (57:06):
Okay, all right, hooray.

Speaker 10 (57:10):
So on the flight two and back from New York,
I started watching this show because you know, they do
the in flight entertainment.

Speaker 9 (57:19):
And I know you don't have Apple.

Speaker 10 (57:21):
TV, but there is this show on Apple TV that
if you liked Band of.

Speaker 1 (57:28):
Brothers, you have to watch this show. It's so good.
It's called Masters of.

Speaker 10 (57:36):
The Air and it is from Tom Hanks and Steven
Spielberg and it is about, uh, these airmen of the
hundredth Bomb Group and dude, it's so good. Austin Butler
is in it, Barry Keegan is in it. And I

(58:03):
knew that being in war was crazy, but it shows
these guys, these kids, flying these bombers and not knowing
what they're doing. They literally are a mess because they're kids, right,
being given all this responsibility and so young. And it

(58:23):
shows them flying these bombers and just anti aircraft going
off right around them and just being terrified. And then
they get hit and their buddies get injured or whatever,
and they have to abandon. And here you are like
already scared, right, and then you have to parachute out
god knows how high up in the air, and while

(58:46):
your buddies you're trying to get him out, but you can't,
so you've got to leave him because you've got to
save your life.

Speaker 9 (58:51):
And again there's your kids.

Speaker 10 (58:53):
And as you escape, you've got to avoid gunfire, other
bombs going off other planes, and like you're banging into
other planes and you're like, and then you haven't even
landed yet.

Speaker 9 (59:05):
No, you haven't even parachuted to safety, dude.

Speaker 10 (59:08):
It's just the wildest I got to watch three episodes
on the flight there and back, the wildest depiction of
like you know, when you watched Saving Private Ryan and
the storm and the beach scene, and you're like, dude,
that's wild right because we don't understand.

Speaker 9 (59:28):
No, it gave me that feeling. You're like, what is happening.
This is wild.

Speaker 7 (59:35):
That sucks that it's only on one platform, Apple TV,
But whatever, Can I get Apple TV without having to
have an iPhone?

Speaker 11 (59:42):
Sure?

Speaker 1 (59:43):
Okay, then yeah, pay for it another subscription service or whatever.
I'm sure there's yeah, yeah, okay, fine, but I'm master's there.
I highly recommend it.

Speaker 7 (59:53):
Sounds like it.

Speaker 10 (59:53):
I feel like I say that occasionally, but this one.
If you love Band of Brothers, you love Saving Private Ryan,
you love the Pacific, this is really good.

Speaker 9 (01:00:03):
Okay, fun, Uh, all right, we gotta take a break.
We'll be back.

Speaker 2 (01:00:06):
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Speaker 9 (01:00:34):
Coming up.

Speaker 1 (01:00:34):
We've got our listeners are awesome. Jeff Finsley will join
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Speaker 10 (01:00:37):
If you got a question about divorce or custody or
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Jeff will gladly answer them when he's in the studio
with us. Right now, we got to see what's in
gid piece four by four well covid.

Speaker 1 (01:00:49):
It says here that the US is investigating apparent leak
of quote.

Speaker 9 (01:00:53):
Top secret US documents.

Speaker 1 (01:00:56):
The US is investigating the leak of two TopSecret dot
com it's showing American intel recording possible Israeli plans for
carrying out an attack on Iran. Two US officials say
the leaked documents look real and that national security damage
is confined. The evaluation is still developing. The documents were

(01:01:18):
leaked on social media app Telegram on a Friday. Huh
yeah right, yeah right uh Netton Yah, who says hesbal
a drone attack was a grave mistake. Officials say a
drone launched from Lebanon a targeted Netton Yahoo's house and

(01:01:38):
north of Tel Aviv on Saturday.

Speaker 7 (01:01:40):
Now, according to Netting.

Speaker 1 (01:01:42):
Yahoo's office, the Prime Minister and his wife were not
in the building and there were no casualties. Netting Yahoo
responded on Twitter saying the attempted by IRNS proxy Asbilla
to assassinate me and my wife today was a great mistake.

Speaker 7 (01:02:00):
He's just being a keyboard warrior at that point, isn't he.

Speaker 9 (01:02:03):
I don't know. We've seen him back it up a
couple times.

Speaker 7 (01:02:05):
Yeah right, I ain't saying to them, but still man.

Speaker 9 (01:02:08):
Put bombs and beepers.

Speaker 4 (01:02:10):
Due to that.

Speaker 7 (01:02:10):
Right, what else we got here?

Speaker 1 (01:02:13):
Four chicken farm workers test positive for the blurt bird flu.
They should stop making out with these chickens.

Speaker 7 (01:02:20):
I'm just saying.

Speaker 1 (01:02:21):
Four workers at a large scale chicken farm and Franklin
County of Washington have presumptive cases of bird flu. The
state Department of Health says that they're the first human
cases of the virus in the States. It's believed the
infections happened at a farm where eight hundred thousand chickens
were euthanized after some tested positive for avian influenza. The

(01:02:45):
four workers are being given anti viral medication. The CDC
is conducting test to confirm the infections, and then lastly,
years a lot of dirty chickens, see right, dead, dirty,
nasty as chickens, quick touching chickens like it anyway. ASA
police officers a WASSA police offer free gunlocks to the

(01:03:07):
public at headquarters. When I first read that headline, I
read it as a WASSA police offer free blocks to
the public, and I'm like, what free guns not the
case no gunlocks. The AASA Police departments offering free gunlocks
in the lobby of their police headquarters. Everyone a wasa
resident or not can stop by the office and take

(01:03:29):
a firearm lock. According to the AASA Police, the barrel
locks fit almost every pistol, but we'll also feed through
the breach of about any rifle or shotgun. The locks
are available twenty four to seven at the headquarters. Locks
are first come, first serve.

Speaker 10 (01:03:57):
The NFL recap the Jet acquired Devonte Adams last week
thinking it's gonna be the miraculous Savior, and last night's
thirty seven to fifteen blowout loss at Pittsburgh did.

Speaker 7 (01:04:13):
Not help them.

Speaker 10 (01:04:14):
Aaron Rodgers threw two interceptions and the defense crumbled against
Russell Wilson in his first Steeler start at the Jets
are two in five.

Speaker 7 (01:04:23):
He's on a what four year contract?

Speaker 1 (01:04:25):
Yeah, but he ain't gonna make four years even if
he was playing great.

Speaker 8 (01:04:28):
But the.

Speaker 9 (01:04:30):
The thing to remember is Zach Wilson had a better record.

Speaker 7 (01:04:36):
Then I think he was.

Speaker 1 (01:04:37):
I think Zach Wilson was five and two, is that right?
Or was he four and three?

Speaker 8 (01:04:41):
Right?

Speaker 9 (01:04:41):
And in Aaron Rodgers is two in five.

Speaker 7 (01:04:45):
I thought he was the saving grace of this team.

Speaker 10 (01:04:49):
Wild huh Yeah, Brandon Ayuk might be lost for the season,
Deebo Samuel was ruled out minutes before the game, and
Yuan Jennings didn't play because of a hip injury, which
added to twenty eight to eighteen loss at home to
the Chiefs. For the three and four nine Ers, Ricky Pursall,
injured in a shooting before the season started, is the
lone spotlight for the team. Meanwhile, Kansas City remains, uh

(01:05:13):
six and two.

Speaker 1 (01:05:14):
I give it to him, man, that personal guy. Man,
he played his ass off and he looked really good
out there playing considering he just took a bullet to
the chest a few months ago.

Speaker 7 (01:05:23):
Yeah, so good for him.

Speaker 9 (01:05:24):
Yeah, this is a.

Speaker 1 (01:05:28):
Not to pick on the forty nine ers, but this
is the thing is and he has an ability sometimes
to lose the team, yeah, and not keep everybody playing focused.
And it feels like that's what's happening with them, because
every guy should be the next guy ready to step
up and play. And for some reason, I don't know
what it is, man, brock Pritty's throws aren't helping.

Speaker 7 (01:05:47):
No, they're not.

Speaker 10 (01:05:49):
Uh, very bizarre situation in Cleveland when Deshaun Watson hit
the turf with a non contact injury.

Speaker 9 (01:05:58):
They're believing it is a torn achilles tendon, which might
be the end.

Speaker 7 (01:06:02):
Of his career.

Speaker 10 (01:06:03):
Yeah, but it definitely was the end of that game,
as they had a twenty one to fourteen loss to
three and four Cincinnati. The Browns are now one in
six and Jason Lloyd says the Watson era is essentially over,
but moving on is going to be tough because they
still have to give him one hundred and twenty million dollars.

Speaker 1 (01:06:25):
Yeah about that, you'd think they're ever going to like
start dialing back those massive guaranteed moneys. I think now
that depends on what the the when they do the
renegotiation of the contract, what that looks like for all,
you know, when they for the whole, for the league,
right from the Players Association renegotiates. For me, the part
that was really weird was fans were cheering when he

(01:06:46):
got injured. Cleveland fans, Now, I get it, you're frustrated,
but it feels tacky to cheer when somebody's injured. It is,
it really is, And I'm not here to defend the
human being think he's a good human being.

Speaker 15 (01:07:01):
No, but.

Speaker 1 (01:07:03):
Yeah, it's weird with your kid, like yeah boom, yeah, right.

Speaker 10 (01:07:10):
Loser and the g Men welcome Saquon Barkley and his
new team Leagals back to Ment Life Stadium and watched
Barkley run all over them in a twenty eight to
three route. Daniel Jones was awful and he got benched
for Drew Locke, who was just as bad. Philadelphia four
and two sacked Jones seven times and Locke once two
and five New York and it was a nightmare for

(01:07:32):
the Giants as they now have to figure something out.
Washington also kind of had a bad day, but it
turned out to be okay as Jade Daniels left the
game with a rib injury and that if you sorry.
And then Marcus Mariota came in and had a crazy
game and you're like, what Raiders fans like, son of

(01:07:54):
a bitch? I know that was Garoppolo, Mariota was Tessy anyway,
that's Balls of All Sports.

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Right now though, it's time for our listeners are awesome
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is Ryan.

Speaker 9 (01:08:50):
Hey Ryan, how are you good?

Speaker 4 (01:08:53):
Good?

Speaker 7 (01:08:54):
Ryan?

Speaker 9 (01:08:54):
Is uh married for six years? How'd you meet your wife?

Speaker 4 (01:08:59):
Oh?

Speaker 6 (01:09:00):
We met on Facebook. She popped up as someone I
might know and I thought she was absolutely gorgeous. So
I sent her a friend request and I figured she
wouldn't message me at all, but she messaged me about
two minutes later and start talking. Hit it off and
I've been married for six years?

Speaker 9 (01:09:19):
Did you did you know her?

Speaker 2 (01:09:20):
Like?

Speaker 9 (01:09:20):
Did you have a connection to her?

Speaker 6 (01:09:23):
I'm actually her ex husband was in the same MC
I was, but he was in Louisville Chapter and I
was in the Wisconsin chapter, and yeah, through her being
married to him, she popped up as someone I might
know and just went from there.

Speaker 1 (01:09:42):
That is wild, dude.

Speaker 9 (01:09:45):
It says here that you were in the army. What
made you want to join the army?

Speaker 4 (01:09:51):
Oh?

Speaker 6 (01:09:51):
I graduated in two thousand and two or so. It
was right after nine to eleven and all that. So
I wanted to go over there and get some revenge
for our boys.

Speaker 9 (01:10:00):
And what what was your specialty in the army?

Speaker 6 (01:10:04):
I was eleven love Charlie mortarman.

Speaker 9 (01:10:07):
And what does that mean for a civilian like me?

Speaker 6 (01:10:11):
We're those guys that sent over the artilleries through the
I guess like the mortar shells that you shoot up
during the Fourth of July. It's basically the same thing,
but way bigger obviously. And yeah, it was really fun,
not as pretty, right, Yeah, as pretty?

Speaker 4 (01:10:26):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:10:28):
That's so that's we're the one where you drop them
and it's really loud and the ground shakes and all that, right, correct, Yes, do.

Speaker 7 (01:10:35):
They all fire off the way they should? Or do
you ever have one that.

Speaker 1 (01:10:41):
Didn't go as far as planned? Maybe just shot out
and dropped like two feet in front of you.

Speaker 6 (01:10:47):
Yeah, it's very rare. But yeah, actually we did have
oopsie and shot out about two feet and then you
just saw about fifteen guys just run as fast as
they could and dive behind a little wall.

Speaker 9 (01:11:01):
And are you still in contact with any of the
guys that you served with?

Speaker 4 (01:11:05):
Oh yeah, yep.

Speaker 10 (01:11:07):
And in that position doing mortar like that, are you
ever in harm's way or is it self inflicted like
the misfire that you just mentioned.

Speaker 6 (01:11:17):
Yeah, normally you're out of harm's way, But I mean
you can if you're overseas wherever, you can have some
neighbors and stuff looking for you and whatever. But it's
very very rare. Normally you're a couple of miles away
in safe place.

Speaker 10 (01:11:32):
It says here that you're a former volunteer firefighter. Why
did you want to become a firefighter?

Speaker 7 (01:11:38):
Oh?

Speaker 6 (01:11:38):
Actually, I was just looking for something to do because
I was an amateur bodybuilder when I was younger, and
I didn't really have time to work because I was
always at the gym and working out and stuff. And
a couple of buddies were volunteer firefighters and just ask
me if I wanted to come hang out and start
hanging out and ended up helping them and working with

(01:12:00):
them for the next couple of years.

Speaker 10 (01:12:04):
And what was someone give me one of the crazy
stories that you had from being a volunteer firefighter. Did
you see a lot of crazy things?

Speaker 4 (01:12:12):
No?

Speaker 6 (01:12:12):
I didn't see a lot. But the one that Gibbie
actually messaged me about was I got a call of
a rollover crash and it was a little convertible car
back in the day was VW. Rabbits I think they
were called. And so I went out there and by
the time I got there, the department was already there

(01:12:33):
putting out the car because it was completely engulfed in flames.
And we were actually searching for the body because we
didn't see him in the car yet, and there was
a career mostly figured he probably got thrown from the vehicle,
and come to find out he was still in the
vehicle and burnt to a crisp and part of the
roll cage thing that they had in those broken stuck

(01:12:55):
into his head. And after we had to look the
fire down and everything, and before they could go to them,
and so you got to obviously pull the body out,
and when they went to pull the part out of
his head, his brain shut out like silly string?

Speaker 1 (01:13:11):
Whoa was that when that happened? Where you're like, what
am I doing? Why am I doing this?

Speaker 4 (01:13:20):
Pretty much?

Speaker 6 (01:13:20):
Yeah, And it was funny seeing a bunch of big
guys to start throwing up and yeah, I'll never forget
the sound it made when it shot out and then
the sound it made when it hit the ground.

Speaker 4 (01:13:29):
It was awful.

Speaker 1 (01:13:31):
Was that one of the moments for you that played
a part in you going I think I'm done doing this?

Speaker 6 (01:13:37):
Yeah? Yeah, yeah, I just knowing that there's nothing you
can do about it, and just you know, life was lost,
and that kind of hits you a little different.

Speaker 9 (01:13:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:13:48):
Being a volunteer firefighter, you mentioned like you pulled up
and they were already on scene. Did you have to
get your vehicle, your personal vehicle equipped with any special
lights or sirens so you could whip through traffic?

Speaker 4 (01:14:01):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (01:14:01):
I did have a little light bar on the top
of my car and a couple of my uniform and
stuff in the trunk and whatever else I might need
a little first aid kids and stuff.

Speaker 10 (01:14:12):
And when you were done being a volunteer firefight, I
guess I didn't even ask that are you done doing?

Speaker 9 (01:14:16):
You got you finished? Doing that, right, you stopped?

Speaker 4 (01:14:19):
Yes? Correct?

Speaker 9 (01:14:20):
And did you have to like turn in your light
bar or did you just leave it on your car?

Speaker 7 (01:14:26):
No?

Speaker 6 (01:14:26):
I took it off. It was just one I got
actually from Harbor Freight.

Speaker 7 (01:14:31):
Nice.

Speaker 1 (01:14:32):
Did you ever you ever use that to just kind
of get through red lights and speed through town even
though there wasn't an emergency?

Speaker 10 (01:14:41):
I did once, but mainly I just use it for hey, yeah,
I just remember, not just not don't swear for me, buddy, Okay, Yeah, yeah,
that's okay.

Speaker 4 (01:14:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:14:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (01:14:55):
It says you're an amateur knife maker. How did you
get into that?

Speaker 6 (01:15:02):
My dad actually got me into throwing knives and axes
and stuff at a really young age. And he retired
about fifteen years ago and he bought a forge and
everything and started doing all that. And I got into
it and do it now for about five years, and
I just love it. I love any kind of knives

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and axes. I can build anything out of wooden metal,
so just goes along with everything I do on a
day to day basis.

Speaker 9 (01:15:32):
What's your proudest piece you've ever forged?

Speaker 6 (01:15:37):
Actually, my very first knife. It turned out amazing, and
I've been trying to duplicate it and for some reason
I just can't get it.

Speaker 4 (01:15:48):
And so.

Speaker 1 (01:15:50):
How old were you when you started doing the knives?

Speaker 6 (01:15:55):
Twenty fibersh okay?

Speaker 9 (01:15:57):
And how long does it take you to make one knife?

Speaker 6 (01:16:04):
Starting out?

Speaker 7 (01:16:04):
The ones?

Speaker 6 (01:16:05):
Usually the ones I make because I am more about
like survival knives and stuff, I don't make them like
super pretty and stuff like they should, but they're very useful.
And uh, oh my god, I totally kind of got
off the track here and forget what we were gonna
talking about.

Speaker 9 (01:16:21):
Uh, the how long does it take you to make
a knife?

Speaker 7 (01:16:25):
Oh?

Speaker 6 (01:16:25):
Yeah, a couple of weeks. I'm really actually working on
one right now for a buddy and it's been about
a month because he's very intricate and stupid design and
stuff he wants in it. But it's just it's therapeutic.

Speaker 9 (01:16:43):
And And did you have to buy like an anvil
and everything or how did you do all that?

Speaker 6 (01:16:49):
No, my dad actually had a bunch of My great
grandpa used to be blacksmith back in the day, and
he had a bunch of anvils and stuff up at
his cabin. When he died, we went up there and
you know, his house, and got them Also, I just
just had to buy a forge and pretty much had
everything else.

Speaker 10 (01:17:06):
And so how much What I'm trying to get at
is how much does it cost to start doing that?
If someone wanted to pick up that trade.

Speaker 6 (01:17:15):
I mean, really, if they just wanted to start and
just bare minimum. Uh, it's actually really cheap. All you
really need is a fire and some metal.

Speaker 9 (01:17:25):
Right now, that makes sense? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:17:29):
Yeah?

Speaker 10 (01:17:30):
And so what do you do now if you're not
a fireman anymore and you got out of the army,
what is your what is your skill set?

Speaker 7 (01:17:36):
Now?

Speaker 4 (01:17:38):
Well?

Speaker 6 (01:17:38):
They're metal faber here.

Speaker 9 (01:17:39):
What do you like about that job?

Speaker 6 (01:17:43):
Just building different stuff every day with metal? And it's
just oh, it makes you feel.

Speaker 4 (01:17:47):
Like a man.

Speaker 10 (01:17:49):
Well I was thinking that, Like, you know, here's somebody
at a young age, you join the military and you
launch bombs at people, right, mortars at people is probably
more accurate term. And then you get out of that
and then you play hero and firefighter and do that,
and then you make knives like these are all very.

Speaker 9 (01:18:09):
Manly thing. So now you've got to tell me what
is the least manly thing you do?

Speaker 4 (01:18:15):
Oh?

Speaker 6 (01:18:15):
God, I got guilty pleasures with movies like uh, girly movies.
I guess it's like one of my favorite movies. I'm
not afraid a minute, but uh, how to Lose a
guy in ten days?

Speaker 10 (01:18:28):
Yeah, I think that's a fantastic movie. Man, right on, man, listen, Ryan,
it's been awesome talking to you, man. Thank you for
taking the time, and good luck with the knife making
and uh and enjoy the h being married to your wife.

Speaker 9 (01:18:47):
And uh, it's been great talking to you.

Speaker 11 (01:18:50):
All right.

Speaker 6 (01:18:50):
Man, you guys do have a great time.

Speaker 9 (01:18:51):
Appreciate you taking the time.

Speaker 1 (01:18:52):
Ryan, have a good day, brother, Thank you to see
that's Ryan. Our listeners are awesome. Everybody's got a side man.

Speaker 7 (01:18:58):
Everybody does. Everybody does, just not everybody will admit it.

Speaker 9 (01:19:02):
Everybody's got there. How to lose a guy in ten days?

Speaker 7 (01:19:04):
Think mine's princess Bright.

Speaker 1 (01:19:06):
That doesn't Now that's not considered girly. Absolutely not. I
don't know, absolutely not.

Speaker 7 (01:19:12):
I have to sit back and think.

Speaker 9 (01:19:13):
Then, I mean, yours is gonna be you like a
good brunch?

Speaker 4 (01:19:17):
I do?

Speaker 10 (01:19:18):
And then what's that show you like with the girl
from Friends Cougartown. I haven't watched that show in like
seven years.

Speaker 7 (01:19:28):
Bro, it's been a long time.

Speaker 9 (01:19:31):
Your concept of time is pretty messed up, so probably
more like three. They don't show it anymore. They don't
showed it, and I loved it.

Speaker 1 (01:19:37):
I thought it was great that in Hot in Cleveland
with Betty White, they'd show it butt ass early in
the morning, you know, when I'm getting ready for work
or whatever.

Speaker 7 (01:19:44):
And that's why I watched it, and I haven't. It
hadn't been on and.

Speaker 1 (01:19:47):
Forever, so I really got to go back and reevaluate, like,
what's the gayest thing about me?

Speaker 4 (01:19:52):
Now?

Speaker 10 (01:19:53):
It doesn't have to be that term. All right, we
got to take a break. We'll be back to tell say,
this morning.

Speaker 2 (01:19:59):
Show, the Big Bad Morning Show, the Assaulting Congenius. Next
ninety km o D.

Speaker 10 (01:20:24):
Good morning, It's the Big Bad Morning Show. Nine four
six oh km o D. Another day, Another Diddy story.

Speaker 7 (01:20:32):
Oh mind, what happened this?

Speaker 9 (01:20:34):
Another Diddy Diddy story?

Speaker 1 (01:20:39):
Uh?

Speaker 10 (01:20:40):
Sean Diddy Combs has been accused of drugging and raping
a thirteen year old girl as two celebrities joined at
a vm A party in New York two decades ago.

Speaker 1 (01:20:52):
I hit that simply because I'm not surprised to hear
that in this case, even though I know there's good.

Speaker 10 (01:20:58):
We're gonna get these stories. I am surprised well, and
I'll circle back to that on the why I'm surprised.
In one of the suits, an alleged victim claimed she
was attacked after having one drink that left her feeling
quote woozy and lightheaded at a drug fueled house party
in September of two thousand. According to court papers, she

(01:21:18):
looked for a place to rest because she was feeling
so woozy from the drink. Right she entered what she
believed to be an empty bedroom so she could lie
down for a moment. Soon after, Combs, along with a
male and female celebrity, entered the room. Combs aggressively approached
her with a crazed look in his eye, grabbed her

(01:21:39):
and said you are ready.

Speaker 9 (01:21:40):
To party.

Speaker 7 (01:21:43):
Okay.

Speaker 10 (01:21:44):
The woman alleged she was then pinned down and raped
by Combs and the male celebrity as the unnamed female
star watched on. She claims Combs tried to force her
to perform oral sex, but she fought him off. The
alleged victim said she then grabbed her clothes and left
the bedroom, roaming naked through the house looking for an exit.

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She exited the home, put her clothes on, walked to
a nearby gas station, where a female clerk who noticed
her distress let her use a phone to call her
dad to pick her up. After the assault, the planeft
fell into a depression and continues to affect her life
every day. According to the lawsuit, The girl said she'd
ended up at the party after trying to get into

(01:22:28):
the VMA show at Radio City Music Hall without a
ticket and a bird in a bid to coax her
way inside. The alleged victim said she approached several limousine
drivers outside the venue, including one who worked for Combs,
and invited her to the after party. The driver, who
allegedly told her quote that she was fit what Diddy

(01:22:50):
was looking for, later drove her to a large white
house with a gated U shaped driveway. She claimed she
signed a non disclosure agreement preventing her from talk talking.

Speaker 1 (01:23:00):
About what she saw at the celebrity field party. I
am not a lawyer and we will check with Jeff Heinsley.

Speaker 10 (01:23:06):
If you are asked to sign an NDA to perform
a legal acts, then it or be a part of
a crime.

Speaker 9 (01:23:11):
The NDA is null and void. That's kind of what
I was thinking. Then it is no longer if you
like you.

Speaker 10 (01:23:18):
Are there and you don't know, and then a crime
happens while you're there, you're fine.

Speaker 9 (01:23:22):
You can break the NDA.

Speaker 7 (01:23:23):
That's kind of what I was thinking.

Speaker 10 (01:23:26):
The latest suit comes days after Comb's lawyers begged a
federal court judge to force prosecutors to reveal the names
of the ever increasing number of accusers who have been
coming forward with years old allegations, which I don't understand
why that would be a push maybe just to embarrass
shame those people about what happened, which they shouldn't feel shame, right, Uh,

(01:23:48):
because he probably didn't get their names. How's he gonna
How's that gonna clear anything.

Speaker 7 (01:23:52):
Up for him? Right?

Speaker 1 (01:23:53):
My thought was so he could try to pay him
off to not speak speak out against him.

Speaker 9 (01:23:58):
Maybe, but the case is already forward.

Speaker 7 (01:23:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 13 (01:24:01):
Um.

Speaker 10 (01:24:02):
This case is unique in part because of the number
of individuals levying allegations against mister Combs due to his
celebrity status, wealth, and publicity of his previously settled lawsuits.
According to his lawyers, this is at a perverse ripple effect,
resulting in a torn of allegations by unidentified complainants. Complaints
spanning from false to outright just absurd. His lawyers argued

(01:24:25):
they need to know the names of the accusers to
properly prepare for his criminal trial. Combs, who is being
held without bail and federal custody in Brooklyn, followed us
the rest last month, has pled not guilty to federal
charges of rocketeering, conspiracy, sex trafficking and transportation and engaging
in prostitution.

Speaker 1 (01:24:43):
Poof, that's a lot, Yeah, I don't. It's going to
be a year or so before his days get better,
oh for sure.

Speaker 7 (01:24:51):
For sure. How come they're not mentioning the male celebrity
in this case?

Speaker 1 (01:24:58):
That is why I thought this one was weird. Why
would you also not name them exactly.

Speaker 9 (01:25:04):
If they were a part of it. I don't know.

Speaker 10 (01:25:07):
I don't know why unless you didn't know, But how
do like I could see maybe in the moment you
didn't know it was them, but then you saw them
later you're like, well, maybe that was them, and maybe
it's hard to.

Speaker 9 (01:25:16):
Clarify right who that person is. That would be the
only way that I can. And then celebrity, it's like mail, right, we.

Speaker 1 (01:25:27):
Assume it's an a lister. Of course you know, hanging
out with Diddy, But it could be anyone I understand,
like the celebrities that are known or have been known
to be out of his parties and and participate in
these these freak offs with the baby oil and the
hot knots. You know, it seems like there's no crime there, right,

(01:25:50):
they were just partying, you know. And but this here,
there's clearly a crime being committed when when one guy,
the celebrity, the unknown celebrity, joins in and then the
other one, the female, just sits and watches. So I
feel like they should be at least being named in this.
So I guess the question here is is any of

(01:26:12):
this true?

Speaker 10 (01:26:14):
Well if those other famous people did they not see anything?
I mean, even if they, at what point is the
what would they be guilty of besides not helping?

Speaker 1 (01:26:21):
So far as the unnamed celebrity, I thought you said
that he joined in on theing of this young girl,
and then the female just sat back and watched. So
both of them, they're once a witness to a crime
that was never reported. So I think that's I'm not

(01:26:42):
clear if that's a crime.

Speaker 7 (01:26:43):
I I know that when it.

Speaker 1 (01:26:46):
Comes to like DHS and child abuse and stuff like that.
If if let's just say you got a married couple
and then the dad is abusing one of the children
and the mom knows about it but never says anything,
the mom gets in trouble as well. So that's kind
of and it may be different with this particular case,
but I just assume that it's the same sort of thing.

(01:27:09):
You sat there and watched, You knew what was going on,
but you never reported it, so you're just as guilty
as the person who did it.

Speaker 10 (01:27:17):
It says, failure to report a crime is usually not
a crime in itself. In most places, individuals are not
legally obligated to report crimes they witness unless certain conditions apply,
like what we what you just described, right, Yeah, I
mean including some.

Speaker 9 (01:27:31):
Other some other ones.

Speaker 4 (01:27:32):
Right.

Speaker 1 (01:27:32):
It's it's one thing to not report a shoplifter, you know,
I saw somebody lift a pair of jeens from.

Speaker 7 (01:27:40):
The gap whatever.

Speaker 1 (01:27:41):
Yeah, yeah, but you're watching a minor being true, tod,
you would have to know and and uh short of
asking for identification, I mean, I guess you could hypuff.

Speaker 9 (01:27:57):
Before you engage in rape. We need to get her
id right, it ain't happening, no, no of course it's
not happening.

Speaker 1 (01:28:03):
But I'd like to think that you can look at
somebody and be like, yet, whoa, hey, this one looks
a little too young.

Speaker 10 (01:28:09):
Yeah, somebody texted in and multiple people texting going, you
don't need to ask Jeff, thirteen year olds can't sign
NDA's fair point. I was saying in just in general,
y'all yo, just in a giant broad stroke. If you
I was like, hey, here sign this INNdiA and go
all right, now we're gonna go rob a bank. The
NDA is suddenly not available.

Speaker 7 (01:28:28):
Oh you said you wouldn't say anything. You on paper?

Speaker 9 (01:28:31):
You broke the NDA.

Speaker 7 (01:28:33):
Yeah, yeah, this isn't you know, a new algorithm for Twitter.

Speaker 9 (01:28:37):
I'm gonna have to look something up.

Speaker 10 (01:28:43):
I I don't I'm trying to think of the time
I heard of a celebrity bringing a lawsuit forward because no, nope,
I have an NDA.

Speaker 1 (01:28:50):
They're not supposed to talk, right, Like something goes up
against and they're like, oh no, they signed this. Yeah,
you weren't supposed to say anything. I have an NDA.

Speaker 7 (01:28:59):
Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 10 (01:29:00):
I'm not recalling those that story. Somebody said I could
be wrong, but I don't know if accessory to rape
is a charge.

Speaker 7 (01:29:08):
If not, it should be like I.

Speaker 9 (01:29:10):
Helped you rape somebody that feels like that should be
a charge.

Speaker 1 (01:29:13):
Absolutely, it should be if it's not, like even if
you're the one that you know is sitting there, you know,
caressing their head and rubbing your fingers through their hair,
tell them everything's gonna be all.

Speaker 7 (01:29:24):
Right, you know.

Speaker 9 (01:29:25):
I also I'm a little concerned that you know, you
knew if it was a crime.

Speaker 7 (01:29:32):
Yeah, right, listen, it was. It was twenty years ago,
it was a long time.

Speaker 4 (01:29:38):
This.

Speaker 10 (01:29:38):
According to this search, being an accessory to rape can
be a criminal charge. An accessory is someone who helps, facilitates,
or assists aiding and abetting. Accessory after the fact, accessory
before the fact. These are all different types.

Speaker 11 (01:29:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:29:57):
I think if you're involved anyway before after ordear, you
should get in just as much trouble less rest of them.

Speaker 10 (01:30:03):
By the way, what a wild take to grab your
phone and text in to try and be like, nope,
you can help out with a rate. That's a what
you've got to have. You might need to think of
some like maybe reflect a little today. If you grab
your phone and text in, guys, don't I think you
can help out and rape. You can't rate, but you
can help someone else. That's a weird thing to be like, Nope,

(01:30:27):
I'm gonna text this in because I just imagine some
people have thoughts and they're like, no, I'm not texting them.
And then there are people who are like nope. I
feel like I gotta I gotta get this. I've got
to interject to this point, I have some knowledge on
whether access rate. Good morning, It's the Big Man Morning Show.

(01:30:57):
Nine one, eight, four, six, Oh k M. Let's do
a little balls to the wall.

Speaker 9 (01:31:05):
Sports.

Speaker 10 (01:31:17):
Week seven of the NFL season is wrapping up with
Monday Night football. Tonight, a doubleheader, Baker Mayfield and the
Tampa Bay Buccaneers will host Lamar Jackson and the Ravens
at Raymond James Raymond James Stadium. The Bucks have won
two of the last three instead atop the NFC SALTH.

Speaker 9 (01:31:34):
At four and two.

Speaker 10 (01:31:35):
The Ravens enter riding a four game win streak and
are currently second in the AFC North at Qurn two.
In the second game, Justin Klembert and the Chargers will
pay visit to Kyler Murray and the Cardinals at State
Farm Stadium. The Chargers snapped a two game losing skid
last week and or second in the ANFC West and
three and two Cardinals have lost three of the last
four and check in third in the NFC West. And

(01:31:56):
that game is exclusively on ESPN Plot, so if you
don't have ESPN Plus, you will not be watching that
one the Cardinals won. Oklahoma Sooners have fired offensive coordinator
Seth Latrell. It was announced Sunday Oklahoma is moving on
from the first year play caller, one day after the
offense sputtered again a thirty five to nine home loss

(01:32:16):
to South Carolina. Co offensive coordinator Joe John Finley will
take over interim play calling duties, while analyst Kevin Johns,
the former Duke offensive coordinator, has been promoted to interim
quarterbacks coach and co offensive coordinator.

Speaker 9 (01:32:30):
The unranked Sooners hope.

Speaker 10 (01:32:31):
This will solve all their problems, who are one in
three in the SEC debut and head to Ole Miss
for Week nine. They are currently ranked one hundred and
twenty eighth nationally in total offense and one hundred and
seventh in scoring. They have eleven turnovers in seven games,
which probably is because of the coaching Before Latrell's firing,
the Sooners moved Finley from the sideline into the coaches

(01:32:55):
booth alongside Latrell and John's for Saturday's game. Latrell, the
former North Texas head coach, was set to earn one
point one million dollars in his first year as the
offensive coordinator. According to Brett Vvener Boles, this is his words.
Seth is an all time great Sooner. He has a
deep love for this university and football program and has

(01:33:16):
poured his heart and soul into both. Despite that, our
performance as an offense this season has not all at
all lived up to the OU standard, and I felt
a change was necessary.

Speaker 1 (01:33:28):
Now Oh okay, the Sooners like go back to the
Big twelve and be like, nope, we're a little not today,
not right now. Well no, not right now, but like
at the end of the season whatever.

Speaker 9 (01:33:40):
Probably not.

Speaker 10 (01:33:40):
No, I don't know how that worked out, because they're planning. Uh,
there's been another change. Top of the latest College Football
Coaches Poll, Oregon is up one spot to the number
one team in the nation, followed by Georgia. After the
Bulldog's climb two spots, Penn State is once again ranked third,
Ohio State, Miami, Texas, LSU, Tennessee, Clemson, and Iowa eight
round out the top ten. Indiana what took one of

(01:34:04):
the biggest jumps, rising to number thirteen. Indiana above Alabama
in the football pool A wild Alabama suffered a major
drop after falling eight spots to number fifteen. Navy and
Vanderbilt are twenty four and twenty fifth after not being
included in last week's rankings. Michigan and Nebraska are the
only schools that dropped out of the top twenty five.

(01:34:29):
Let's go ahead and do our Cowboys up Tableroti by
Miller Life. The Cowboys are returning from their bye week.
Dallas is set to visit the fledgling San Francisco forty
nine ers on Sunday Night football at Levi Stadium.

Speaker 7 (01:34:40):
That'll be a fun game.

Speaker 9 (01:34:44):
I might pick the Cowboys this week.

Speaker 7 (01:34:46):
Oh God.

Speaker 10 (01:34:48):
The Cowboys are coming off a forty seven to nine
loss to the Detroit Lions in Week six.

Speaker 9 (01:34:53):
Dak No I got this.

Speaker 10 (01:34:54):
Prescott is completing sixty three point four percent of his
passes for one thousand and six hundred and two yards,
eight touchdowns and six interceptions this season. The Cowboys are
currently sitting third in the NFC East at three and three.
And if you want to go to a game down
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Going back to the NFL, the Miami Dolphins could be
getting their franchise.

Speaker 9 (01:35:40):
Quarterback back in Week eight.

Speaker 10 (01:35:42):
According to multiple reports, Tua tungue Iola is expected to
practice this week and hopes to be back for the
Finns Week eight game versus the Cardinals. Tua is in
the concussion protocol after severing a concussion in Week two
against the Bills. It was his third diagnosed concussion since
the start of the twenty twenty two season. The Dolphins

(01:36:03):
have lost three of their four games without the twenty
six year old and are two and four overall. Since
to his injury, the Fins have seen two more quarterbacks
get injured. Tyler Huntley left Sunday's loss to the Indianapolis
Colts with the right shoulder injury and did not return.
Skyler Thompson left their Week three loss to Seattle Seahawks
with a rib injury and has yet to play. Finally,

(01:36:26):
the Liberty are the w NBA champions. New York beat
the Minnesota Link sixty seven to sixty two in overtime
in Sunday's deciding Game five of the finals. The title
is the first for the Liberty franchise that was one
of eight original w NBA teams. John Quel Jones led

(01:36:46):
the Liberty with seventeen points and she was named Finals MVP.
Niera Sa Sabeli stepped up with thirteen points.

Speaker 9 (01:36:55):
Off the bench.

Speaker 1 (01:36:56):
Brianna Stewart made two clutch free throws with five seconds
remaining in regulation and two more with ten seconds left
in overtime. She finished with thirteen points and fifteen rebounds.
The Links were seeking their fifth title in franchise history,
and next year, the playoff of the championship game goes
to seven games.

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Good morning Gimby.

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Well, good morning, Corbin. The Sooners are back at it
this weekend as they're taking on Old Miss. Your pre
game will start with Chris Planke at eight am and
then kickoff is at eleven am, and then you can
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Speaker 9 (01:37:56):
Right, Lindsay's out, but she will be back soon.

Speaker 1 (01:37:58):
She's dealing with the personal matter on Joining us right
now is Jeff Heinsley from Hensley and Associate.

Speaker 9 (01:38:03):
That's good morning, Jeff.

Speaker 4 (01:38:04):
How are you.

Speaker 11 (01:38:05):
I'm doing well?

Speaker 9 (01:38:06):
How are you good? Jeff?

Speaker 10 (01:38:07):
We were briefly discussing with all the Diddy stuff and NDAs.
If you sign an NDA and unknowingly become part of
a criminal situation, the NDA's null and void.

Speaker 7 (01:38:17):
Right Yeah.

Speaker 15 (01:38:18):
Basically, I mean in NDA when it comes to criminal
matters like that, you can't. I mean that would be
like that would be akin to the mob having people
sign NDA's right saying that just because they know about
their criminal activities, they can't talk about it.

Speaker 11 (01:38:30):
That's not how it works.

Speaker 15 (01:38:31):
So yeah, the NDA would be considered null and void
at that particular point.

Speaker 10 (01:38:35):
And signing an NDA, how often do people pursue them
that when they believe someone's violated it?

Speaker 11 (01:38:43):
You know, it just depends.

Speaker 15 (01:38:44):
I mean I have read different things on different celebrities
who have gone after individuals who have violated it, or
you know, sending the pictures they took together or the
text messages they had together, or whatever it may be.
I've heard of some celebrities doing that, but I don't
know that everybody does that. I mean, it just depends.
It really depends on the situation and who it is

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and what the NBA said they could and couldn't do,
and what was violated.

Speaker 10 (01:39:10):
Well, Jeff and the folks int Inindley Associates specialize in
family law, specifically for this segment today, and if you
have a question about family law that has to do
with divorce, custody, guardianships, name changes, anything like that, Jeff
can answer it right now, So feel free to get
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(01:39:32):
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Speaker 9 (01:39:40):
This is an email one we got.

Speaker 10 (01:39:41):
It says, my brother's wife recently gave birth and their
baby looks nothing like either one of them, mostly the
skin color. What are the steps I should tell him
to get to do to get a paternity test?

Speaker 9 (01:39:54):
Can he just get one from Walgreens?

Speaker 11 (01:39:58):
Can he get one from Walgreens? The truth?

Speaker 15 (01:40:00):
Yes, but here's the problem with the stuff you buy
at Walgreens or CVS or whatever. They're good test, Okay,
And let me first say that I don't want companies
calling me and telling me that I'm putting down their test.

Speaker 11 (01:40:12):
They are good tests, They are perfectly fine.

Speaker 15 (01:40:15):
The problem you run into is what we call chain
of custody, and what that means is is, once you
do your swab and you put it in the mail,
we have no idea who in the world touches that.
I mean, obviously it goes to the post office and
goes to the mail system and all this and that,
and eventually it ends up at a lab somewhere out
of state that then processes it and then sends back

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the results. Well, that's great and dandy. Just understand that
that document, whatever it is, is not something that can
be used in court. So if you spend money on
a home test at Walgreens, that's fine for your peace
of mind.

Speaker 11 (01:40:52):
Please do it right.

Speaker 15 (01:40:52):
It is absolutely worth doing. They are good tests. The
problem is that we just can't use them in court.
The reason being is because it and we don't know
who's touched that test. We don't know specifically where it's
gone other than what they say in the box. And
so even if you get one of those tests, the
court may still require you to go ahead and do
a test at a local facility so we know exactly

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who's touched it and who's processed it and all that stuff.
So and as far as the guy talking to his brother,
I mean, it's obviously a very hent situation. I mean,
no one wants to tell their brother, Hey man, I
think your wife cheated on you with somebody of a
different you know, a different ethnicity. And uh so it's

(01:41:36):
a very delicate thing to discuss. But you know, it
obviously begs worth mentioning at some point to say, look, man,
I know you love her wife, I know you love
your kid, but you know, are you are you sure
that this this kid is yours? And and more importantly,
I guess the question for the brother would be is
what's he thinking? I mean when that maybe came out

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of different a different ethnity. I'm trying to be pc here.
When the when the child came out a different ethnicity,
one went through that individual's mind.

Speaker 11 (01:42:08):
So you know, should it be done? Yeah, I mean
you can talk to them for sure.

Speaker 15 (01:42:12):
Just be very careful because it's a very obviously delicate
matter that can have some very big consequences.

Speaker 11 (01:42:21):
Tied with it, So be careful.

Speaker 10 (01:42:23):
And you're saying the Walgreens test or wherever you would
get it is maybe a good indicator on whether you
should keep pursuing, but it will not hold any legal ground, right.

Speaker 15 (01:42:32):
I mean, it's again for your peace of mind to
know for sure and to get things rolling.

Speaker 11 (01:42:37):
That's a great way to start.

Speaker 15 (01:42:39):
Just understand, we can't say, well, we spent money on
this VS kit or this Walgreen kit and it came
back positive that I'm you know, ninety nine point nine
percent dad, or you know, the child's not mine, whatever,
it may be. You know, we can't use that test
in court. We'd have to do something at a local
facility for it to be used in open court.

Speaker 10 (01:42:59):
Jeff Fensley from Hensley and Associates as join us. You've
got a question about divorce or custody or guardianship. He
can answer those questions. You can email show at kmod
dot com. You can text bmms and whatever that question
is to eight two nine four five, or you can
call it nine one eight four six Oh KMOD And
that is what Heath has done.

Speaker 9 (01:43:17):
Heath, go ahead. You're on with Jeff Hensley of Hensley
and Associates.

Speaker 4 (01:43:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 14 (01:43:21):
Man, I've had a full custody of my son for
like twelve years. I haven't heard anything early from the
baby mom that she's supposed to think outsupport and all
that good stuff. I was wondering, do len me to
like reallocate with the courts in order to get out
of my seventy five mile boundary from the county or
how that is a.

Speaker 11 (01:43:42):
State law.

Speaker 15 (01:43:44):
That's not something that can be changed. It's not something
that can be waived by a court. Are you thinking
it sounds like you're thinking about moving?

Speaker 11 (01:43:51):
Is that correct?

Speaker 14 (01:43:53):
Yeah? I was thinking about trying to relocate states.

Speaker 11 (01:43:56):
Yeah, I mean, here's the thing.

Speaker 15 (01:43:58):
It requires you to do your best due diligence to
try and find her and give her notice.

Speaker 11 (01:44:04):
All right.

Speaker 15 (01:44:05):
If you can't find her, you don't know where she is.
Now again, you want to make sure you do everything
you can to try and give her notice. I mean,
check Facebook, check TikTok and you know, check Instagram and
check all these things. Check you know, check osp in,
check all these other things to try and find her.
And if you can't, you've done your due diligence at

(01:44:26):
that particular point, I think as a cya you would
want to file that notice that you're supposed to give.
But you know this is you bring a good point
in that when people disappear and they're not heard from
for years and years and years, what do you do. Well, again,
your job is to do your best due diligence and

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that's all the court requires.

Speaker 11 (01:44:48):
At that particular point. You know she may be dead
for all you know.

Speaker 15 (01:44:52):
You just don't, but you've got to do all that
checking and trying to find her first, contacting relatives of
hers if you know it, and you've got to do
all those things before you can just move, you know
what I'm saying, So you know, do your due diligence
and make sure that you looked at under every rock
and turned over every stone trying to find her, and

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then it should be something that the court can deal with.

Speaker 14 (01:45:17):
Oh, I just kind of didn't know what the direction
of doing with the.

Speaker 15 (01:45:22):
I mean, do you know where any do you know
any of her relatives, any family members or anything that
you can contact and say, hey, where's so and so?

Speaker 11 (01:45:28):
Have you read from her?

Speaker 4 (01:45:30):
Yeah?

Speaker 14 (01:45:30):
I could probably contact your mother in law many I.

Speaker 15 (01:45:32):
Mean I would start there and say, hey, where is she?
Do you have an address? And then give her notice.
You're required to it.

Speaker 11 (01:45:40):
It's state law.

Speaker 15 (01:45:41):
You have to give her notice in some way, especially
if you can contact her and find out where she is.

Speaker 14 (01:45:46):
Got does that notice? It couldn't be verbal or does
it have to be like notorized?

Speaker 15 (01:45:50):
So if you look in your original orders graining you custody,
all right, it should be listed all in there at
the exact same step all the things you're supposed to say.
And yes, you need to make sure you send it
certified mail or a process server or something to prove
that she actually received it. Simply because it's a requirement
that you do that improved that you've given her notice.

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Verbal is not enough, text message is not enough. You've
got to make sure that she has actually received the
document to prove to the court that you gave proper notice.

Speaker 14 (01:46:22):
Okay, cool, new, Thank.

Speaker 9 (01:46:23):
You so much, man, have a good day.

Speaker 6 (01:46:25):
Thank you everybody, to see you later.

Speaker 15 (01:46:27):
And I was going to say, if he runs into
any Roadbrox, I mean, any of you that have this
particular issue, feel free to give us a call at
any time.

Speaker 11 (01:46:33):
We'd be happy to help you through it.

Speaker 9 (01:46:35):
I want to expand on that just for one second.

Speaker 10 (01:46:36):
That has to be a court monitored I'm doing all
I can, Like, you want to involve the court through
that process? Or can he just do his own diligence
and then make the move and then should she pursue,
he then can say, lo, I did X, Y.

Speaker 2 (01:46:49):
And Z.

Speaker 15 (01:46:51):
Of those options option B. And the reason I say
that is because you know, there's not a requirement that
you file notice. Now, I tell everybody to go ahead
and file the notice that you have tried to serve
on the other individual, to give the court exactly notice
of what's going on. But you know there's only so
much you can do. If you try and try and try,
and you can't find her, then yeah, his move should

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be authorized at that point. And if she files something
down the road, you know, that's something that can be
dealt with.

Speaker 11 (01:47:19):
But she's not going to have much to stand on.

Speaker 15 (01:47:21):
If she's not seen these kids in twelve years, if
she's not been involved, if she's you know, not used visitations,
sent them cards, spend holidays with them, she's not gonna
have much to stand on. And it's just going to
be a slight bump on the road for him that
still will allow him to relocate.

Speaker 1 (01:47:38):
And she would have to bring those concerns forward to
the court, right even if it contacts her, That doesn't
mean that that's going to negate his.

Speaker 9 (01:47:47):
Ability to move.

Speaker 10 (01:47:48):
That's correct, Yeah, because then it creates a whole other
set of problems should she decide to pursue.

Speaker 9 (01:47:53):
Correct, Yeah, I.

Speaker 15 (01:47:55):
Mean it could only again, she would have to file
a notice or you know, a motion to dismiss or
a objection to the relocation, I guess is the better word,
and it would have to be heard by a court.

Speaker 11 (01:48:06):
But again, she wouldn't get.

Speaker 15 (01:48:07):
Very far and I don't know, anybody that would take
the case simply because you know he can prove, he'll
be able to prove he tried to find her and
then she was unfindable. Number one and number two, his
relocation should still be authorized because she has failed to
maintain a relationship with the child, she's not seen it
still in the child's best interest for the child to move.

Speaker 4 (01:48:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (01:48:30):
The thing that's interesting about what you're saying, and then
I'm still kind of focused on, is the rule requires
you to do your diligence.

Speaker 9 (01:48:39):
That is a pretty broad stroke.

Speaker 10 (01:48:41):
One may feel like, hey, I posted it to social
media as their diligence and that would not suffice in
a court, right, correct.

Speaker 15 (01:48:50):
I mean again, you have to prove, all right, and
that's something you've got to do a process server or
certified mail where she's actually received it and signed for it,
proving that she had actual, real notice, legal notice of
where you're going, when you're going, how to reach the child,
you know, all these things that are required under state law.

Speaker 11 (01:49:09):
You're gonna have to prove that to the court that
you tried to give notice to.

Speaker 4 (01:49:13):
Her on that.

Speaker 15 (01:49:13):
You know, if you can prove that you did your
background checks and you checked all social media, and these
are the people you contacted in her family to try
and find an address or a phone number or whatever
it may be so you can get her notice.

Speaker 11 (01:49:26):
You're fine now if you just say, well, I don't
know where she is and you're just up and move,
that's not gonna work.

Speaker 15 (01:49:32):
That's not enough, all right, because when the court, if
someone were to object, you could come back and say, well,
odds didn't.

Speaker 11 (01:49:38):
Know where she was and so I just decided to move. Anyway,
you can't do that, right.

Speaker 15 (01:49:42):
You have to prove that you've tried to contact and
find her to give her that notice.

Speaker 11 (01:49:46):
It's what's required under law.

Speaker 10 (01:49:48):
Yeah, and we're using the example given, but it goes.
If the mom has full custody, she needs to make
sure she's giving full contact.

Speaker 4 (01:49:55):
To the Uh.

Speaker 15 (01:49:56):
Yeah, it doesn't matter, right, It doesn't matter who the
custodia apparent is, may her female mom or dad.

Speaker 11 (01:50:01):
It doesn't matter.

Speaker 15 (01:50:02):
What matters is is that you can prove that you
trying to give notice to the other side, and.

Speaker 9 (01:50:06):
If you are the party that has been told that
they're moving, you need to pursue. If you're not okay with.

Speaker 15 (01:50:12):
It, absolutely you want to give us a call and
we can help you with that.

Speaker 10 (01:50:16):
All right, We're talking with Jeff Hensley from Hensley and Associates.
Nine one eight four six oh kmod is the phone number.
You can also text BMMS and whatever your question is
to eight two nine four five, or you can email
us show at kmode dot com and Casey is on
the line.

Speaker 9 (01:50:33):
Casey, what's your question for? Jeff Hensley of Hensley Associates.

Speaker 4 (01:50:38):
My question really is I haven't say much other in
four years. But the thing about that was a protective order.
I never got in trouble with it. The counselor that
they put on the case that she ended up, we
did not. It didn't work out. She wouldn't bring as
a kids, she wouldn't present them when needed it, she
wouldn't present herself for the counseling. It's all in the

(01:50:58):
order they now have. I have found another counselor and
they have finally accepted it. How do I what's the
deal is that the paperwork at the court in my
order says the other counselor's name. What do I need
to do? Can I go about that on my own?
To go to the court and ask them to switch
this counselor or what is my move? Well, it's not.

Speaker 15 (01:51:17):
I mean no, I mean you want to you want
to give us a call. If you give your name
number to gimp I'll call you later this week and
we can talk about it. But I mean the main
focus of it is is we've got to do a
if they've accepted it, meaning I assume you mean the
other side.

Speaker 11 (01:51:30):
Is that correct they've agreed to it?

Speaker 4 (01:51:31):
Correct? Yes, please, we would do it.

Speaker 11 (01:51:34):
We would do a.

Speaker 15 (01:51:34):
Joint motion in order for new counselor and get that enterancy.
You can start using that new counselor right away.

Speaker 11 (01:51:41):
So, like I said, if you give your name number
to gimpee, we can. I'll give you a call today
or tomorrow. We'll get it ironed out for you.

Speaker 4 (01:51:47):
All right, So thank you very much for your time.

Speaker 7 (01:51:51):
You too.

Speaker 9 (01:51:51):
He hold on, Casey, don't go anywhere.

Speaker 10 (01:51:53):
Somebody trying to fudge some numbers here, And so I'm
intrigued where your take's going to be on this says,
if I lived sixty miles way last year and then
move another sixty miles away the next year, does that
still count under the seventy five mile move.

Speaker 15 (01:52:08):
I'm gonna say yes, because I've seen judges added up
like that because you were more than seventy five miles
from the original jurisdiction. It doesn't matter if you move
sixty now and sixty later, or if you move seventy
four now and five miles later, you're still more than
seventy five miles from the actual jurisdiction itself.

Speaker 11 (01:52:29):
So the law says very.

Speaker 15 (01:52:30):
Clearly if you move more than seventy five miles from
the jurisdiction. It doesn't say how you break that up,
doesn't say that it has to be done in one
fell swoop, all right. It says more than seventy five
miles total from the jurisdiction, that's when you have to
give notice and do all these other things.

Speaker 11 (01:52:46):
So I would argue, just because I've seen judges do it.

Speaker 15 (01:52:50):
That that would be added together as one hundred and twenty,
which is more than seventy five.

Speaker 9 (01:52:55):
This is a tax that came in.

Speaker 10 (01:52:57):
And I was mentioning earlier today, Jeff, how long we've
been doing this segment. And I'm still shocked by things
that happen during this question answer segment. And this is
when we get a lot and I'm shocked how often
it happens. And this is Hey, guys, my fiance is
still legally married to someone she has been separated from
for almost a decade. How difficult is the divorce process

(01:53:19):
given he basically vanished from her life and has no
interest in coming back.

Speaker 15 (01:53:25):
I mean it should be fairly simple. I mean, it's uncontested.
They've got nothing to argue about. They've obviously have already
split their assets and their debts and everything else. They've
been separated for ten years or more. If that's the case,
and it's fairly simple. But again we have to give
notice to the other side. I mean that's the main thing.
If you know where they're at, great, perfect And even

(01:53:45):
if you don't, in a situation of divorce, we can
still publish in a newspaper and get it all done.
I mean, it's not a difficult process. We just have
to follow the steps and get everything done. So if
you've got this issue, whoever it is, please.

Speaker 11 (01:53:58):
Give me a call. We can get it knocked out
for you. Get divorce.

Speaker 15 (01:54:00):
I had one guy a couple of years ago come
in and he had been he was on his third
marriage and the first two had not been divorced, and
so we had to go through two different divorces to
get everything cleared out to zero so that he could
marry his new wife that he was getting ready to marry.

Speaker 11 (01:54:18):
So you know, we can get it done, no problem.
Give us a holler.

Speaker 10 (01:54:21):
Okay, if there are a kids in that example from
the text, If there are kids involved in that, does
that complicate it even if it's been that long, not.

Speaker 15 (01:54:29):
Really, simply because I mean, obviously he doesn't have a
relationship with him. He's not, or even she whoever it
may be, okay, doesn't have a relationship with him, and
so you know, the other person obviously would have soul custody.
And you know, we can work out a visitation schedule
if they were agreeable to it, and if not, then
you know, it all depends on what the person wants,
what the client wants, But it doesn't complicate it. It

(01:54:49):
adds one extra step or so, but it doesn't complicate
it per se, and we can't still get it done.

Speaker 11 (01:54:54):
So please give us a call.

Speaker 10 (01:54:56):
This one says, if my wife buys a new car
today and I file for divorce next week, am I
on the hook for any debt she incurred while we
were married?

Speaker 9 (01:55:04):
Even though we are separated for a month.

Speaker 15 (01:55:09):
So if anything that anybody buys from the date of separation,
or any debts they get into or anything like that
from the data separation forward is all on them. So
if you know, if she goes and buys a car,
if they've been separated for a month and she buys
a car today, the debt's on her.

Speaker 11 (01:55:27):
Now.

Speaker 15 (01:55:28):
If they are not separated and she buys the car
today and then they separate after the cars bought, then
he is on the hook for the car.

Speaker 10 (01:55:37):
How do you prove? How does one prove separation? I mean,
could there be a dispute if one was trying to
be sly?

Speaker 15 (01:55:46):
There could be if someone was trying to be sly
or slightly dishonest, it's correct, But honestly, I've never in
fifteen years of practice, I guess it's now sixteen seventeen
years of practice, I've never had anybody dispute an actual
separation date. But yes, I mean, if you want it
to be dishonest or quote sly as you put it,
then yes, that could cause problems and you'd have to

(01:56:07):
prove it. But a lot of times you've got text
messages to say I'm leaving or you know, dear John,
the keys are on the on the table, you know,
something like that.

Speaker 11 (01:56:17):
So it shouldn't be too hard.

Speaker 15 (01:56:20):
And I've never had anybody dispute it, But yes, your scenario.

Speaker 11 (01:56:23):
Could exist, all right?

Speaker 9 (01:56:26):
Last one, how important?

Speaker 4 (01:56:27):
Or man?

Speaker 11 (01:56:28):
I know what's you're thinking.

Speaker 9 (01:56:29):
No, I'm just saying that I know people can be
quite right.

Speaker 15 (01:56:33):
Right, right, You're absolutely right, and your your question is
very valid. I've just never seen it in practice.

Speaker 10 (01:56:38):
This last one here says how important is it in
a custody case if one parent does not have transportation
or a license license needs to be reinstated. And if
that same parent with no means of transportation also does
not have individual bedroom for the two children of opposite
genders twelve year old boy two year old girl who
have not grown up.

Speaker 9 (01:56:58):
With each other?

Speaker 10 (01:56:59):
Are these things the court would have to take into
consideration even if it's tribal could the negligent parent, even
if the negligent parent is a tribal parent?

Speaker 15 (01:57:10):
So yes and no, And here's why I answer that way.
All right, So is it something looked at?

Speaker 4 (01:57:15):
Yes?

Speaker 11 (01:57:15):
Is it something that can hinder maybe?

Speaker 15 (01:57:17):
Maybe not? And here's why there's no legal requirement that
you have a driver's license or a car, all right.
The main thing is is that if you have that's
if you have no license at all, okay period, meaning
you've never gotten one. If you have a suspended license,
you should not be driving the car with the kids
in the car. So what we typically do in those
situations is the person who's got the suspended license, that

(01:57:40):
parent has to find somebody to drive them around, to
be able to pick them up and drop them off
and things of that nature. So that that's something that
we do is we have a third party come in
and help with those driving situations, or you could use
you know, nowadays you can use uber and lyft and whatever.

Speaker 11 (01:57:56):
So there's that. And as far as the.

Speaker 15 (01:58:00):
Sleeping arrangements are concerned, the requirement is that every kid
have their own bed. Now you're talking about a twelve
year old boy and a two year old girl. We're
not talking about a twelve year old boy and an
eleven year old girl, or a ten year old girl
or thirteen year old girl, whatever it may be.

Speaker 11 (01:58:14):
We're talking about a two year old.

Speaker 15 (01:58:16):
It just doesn't mean that they have to sleep in
the same bedroom, all right. They have to have their
own beds. I mean conceivably one of them could sleep
with in the same room, different bed with a parent
or you know, other sibling or something of the nature.
So there's ways to work around that. This particular scenario. Now,
if you've got two kids that are the same age

(01:58:38):
or pretty close boy and girl, or getting ready to
go through puberty and all these other things, absolutely they
need to be in different rooms in my opinion, and
I've seen judges do that because of obvious reasons. But
you know, the law just requires that each person have
their own bed to start, So that's where we would
start and then deal with the scenario from there on.

Speaker 10 (01:58:58):
Lots of questions about custody to I got a couple
questions about paternity, and you can find a lot of
questions online.

Speaker 9 (01:59:05):
The question is are they accurate? Do they pertain to Oklahoma?

Speaker 10 (01:59:07):
The answer is probably not, And that's why you need
to have representation that is from the state of Oklahoma,
from the county you are in, and Jeff and the
folks at Hinsley Associates can help with that. Three nine
eight five six ninety two for Hinsley Associates nine one
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Mention kmode get a free consultation over the phone to

(01:59:28):
kind of get you in the right direction. Nine eight
three nine eight five six nine two for Hinsley Associates.
This is for family law, but you guys do practice
in other areas, right.

Speaker 15 (01:59:39):
That's right through our office in Pahuska. Don't worry about
the location. It's just another office. It's called the Shoemake
Law Firm. Yes, it's a different name, but it is Hensley.
We just left the name when we took over the firm,
So please give them a call up there, all right.
Calling up there can definitely help you. He's my associate there.
They can help you with anything in addition to family laws.
So if you've got criminal matter, okay, it doesn't matter

(02:00:00):
if it's as simple as a dui or as complicated
as a murder case, all right, and everything in between.

Speaker 11 (02:00:06):
Give calling a call. You can help you with that.

Speaker 15 (02:00:08):
If you've got any contract issues, if you've been hurt
in a car wreck, okay, or if you've been damaged
by somebody in the medical profession or the dental profession,
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The Big Men Morning Show returns next Tulsa's Morning Show
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Speaker 10 (02:01:06):
Good morning, It's the Big Mad Morning Show. Nine one
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and then what you want to say to eight two
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air for you right now called did it Happen in Tulsa?

Speaker 7 (02:01:23):
Yep? All right, I like it.

Speaker 10 (02:01:26):
This one police arrested a man following a short pursuit
and found drugs and a snake. Police said that Evan
was holding a python and refused to give police his
driver's license and insurance when he was pulled over. When

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officers told him he was under arrest, they say he
tried to run away, but officers stopped him. In addition
the python, police say they found finanyl, marijuana and a
large amount of cash in the car. He faces several charges,
including eluding police and drug trafficking. Did it happen in Tulsa?

Speaker 7 (02:02:06):
Yep? Oh a python?

Speaker 15 (02:02:13):
No? No?

Speaker 9 (02:02:13):
Yeah, I said it. Yeah, I'm spoiler.

Speaker 7 (02:02:16):
That's fantastic.

Speaker 1 (02:02:17):
Did it happen in Tulsa?

Speaker 7 (02:02:18):
Yep?

Speaker 1 (02:02:19):
Do people normally ride around with their snakes in hand?
I'm just curious if he was holding in his lap
right wrapped around his arm? Is he holding it in
his lap with one hand? Going, you're looking at this,
see my python?

Speaker 7 (02:02:33):
You don't want this snake.

Speaker 9 (02:02:35):
You don't want this python.

Speaker 7 (02:02:37):
That's fun, all.

Speaker 9 (02:02:38):
Right, here's another one. Did it happen in Tulsa?

Speaker 7 (02:02:40):
Yep?

Speaker 10 (02:02:42):
Former American idol contestant who kissed Katie Perry busted with
massive amount of porn child porn.

Speaker 7 (02:02:49):
Oh god?

Speaker 10 (02:02:49):
Did it happen in Tulsa, YEP. Benjamin Glaze is his name.
He was in contestant on twenty eighteen American Idol, and
he was most noted for going viral because Katie Perry
kissed him during his audition. Oh and he was arrested
because of child sexual abuse material. Tulsa Police recovered over

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seven hundred images in videos. Tulsa Police Sexual Predator Digital
Evidence Recovery Unit got information regarding the criminal activity. After
obtaining a search warrant. A smartphone was found that police
said contained the images and videos on Friday, and arrest
warrant was issued for the man and he was arrested

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later that afternoon. He made national news in twenty eighteen
when he auditioned for American Idol after telling the judges
he hadn't had his first kiss when he was called
over by singer Katy Perry. The second time, Glaze attempted
to kiss her cheek, Perry quickly turned her head and
kissed him. He reported in twenty eighteen he had felt

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uncomfortable with the unexpected kiss.

Speaker 7 (02:03:57):
Yeah, because he's into children. Sorry, Katy, you're too old
for me. Oh.

Speaker 10 (02:04:02):
He was booked in Telsea County Jail for aggravated assault,
possession of child sexual abusive material.

Speaker 9 (02:04:07):
Key fact there, sexual abuse material.

Speaker 1 (02:04:09):
Okay, so not child porn, not just kids naked, Okay,
So okay, I'm not gonna go in the detail on that.

Speaker 9 (02:04:18):
Yeah, but did it happen in Tulsa?

Speaker 7 (02:04:20):
Yep, that's fun.

Speaker 1 (02:04:21):
Did Nick We talked the guy last week with the
newl eyebrows. That's a different dude, right, Well, oh.

Speaker 7 (02:04:26):
No, I'm just saying he got popped for child porn
as yeah, right.

Speaker 1 (02:04:29):
I was just thinking of how much this is popping
up late, and it's just disgusting and disturbing.

Speaker 10 (02:04:36):
I'm okay with reading these stories a lot because they
happen here and just remind you that there are people
out there. And I'm not going to say the name
of the business, but he's wearing his work shirt in
the mugshot. Well I don't know if it's a mugshot,
but then the photo and when it's a commonplace you
go to every day that you think you're safe and
you are not.

Speaker 7 (02:04:56):
That just goes to show you don't know anything.

Speaker 10 (02:04:59):
To my paranoia point as far as and this is
a horrible attitude. Everybody's a predator until you prove.

Speaker 7 (02:05:06):
You're not to me. Yeah, I mean I could see
how you could get to that point.

Speaker 9 (02:05:10):
It's just safer that way for me.

Speaker 10 (02:05:12):
Absolutely, When I'm responsible for two little ones, I'd safer
to assume your predator.

Speaker 7 (02:05:17):
So don't step up here, makes sense, makes you.

Speaker 10 (02:05:21):
I'm not gonna have you arrested or anything, but just
I'm just assuming you are. You don't need to get
your picture taken with my kid, all of you, every
last one to get child rapers. Yeah, thanks Corbyn?

Speaker 1 (02:05:31):
Yeah sorry sorry, sorry, not sorry? Yeah, I don't care,
and I got a lot of responsibility I'm in.

Speaker 10 (02:05:41):
It's just easier this way for me, agreed. I ain't
throwing any of your names out there. I'm just saying right,
it's just easier if I assume you are anyway. So
that's a new segment called Did it Happen in Tulsa? Yep,
that's fun because these these people are crazy.

Speaker 7 (02:05:55):
Man. I'm still curious about the guy with the snake.
Why did you do you have to go to a vet?
You do you just take your snake on random Sunday drives?

Speaker 11 (02:06:05):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 10 (02:06:07):
I think it's weird when you see people just walking
around with a snake. I think that's weird, right. I
also think it's weird when people walk around, like when
people with their dogs. So I'm not this isn't exclusive
to snakes, no.

Speaker 1 (02:06:21):
But I think it's more common to see dogs riding
aroundable and cars, you know, or going to home.

Speaker 7 (02:06:28):
Depot or whatever.

Speaker 4 (02:06:30):
You see that.

Speaker 1 (02:06:31):
When I see somebody driving around town with a pet
that's not a dog, I'm like, what is going on here?
Like some people us driving around with their cat and
their car.

Speaker 7 (02:06:42):
You know, you see mittens op in the window or whatever.
The snake.

Speaker 1 (02:06:47):
I remember one time I went to the walmart by
my house and this lady come. It was so weird,
but she had a full grown adult iguana coming out
of the walmart.

Speaker 7 (02:06:58):
And this mother was huge almost curse there.

Speaker 1 (02:07:02):
Yeah, this iguana was massive, Like so I could I
knew it was an older one at least ten years old, yeah,
just based on the sheer size of it.

Speaker 7 (02:07:12):
But I'm like, when did that become a thing? When
did that be okay to take your iguana to the
walmart with you?

Speaker 10 (02:07:22):
I think it's fahitas you're trying. I think when you
take your pet too anywhere and it's definitely if it's
not on a leash. But when you take it into
Walmart home depot, I think you're being incredibly irresponsible. Absolutely,
But you don't know what's going to trigger that dog.
Oh my dog behaves. Yeah, it's that Kevin Hart joke.

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Does your dog bite not me?

Speaker 7 (02:07:45):
I mean exactly exactly. I'm not trying to get in
a yeah, caught up on anything.

Speaker 1 (02:07:52):
Think about that joke. Does your dog bite not me?
Because the dog don't bite me, absolutely, but he might
bite you because I don't know you.

Speaker 9 (02:08:01):
I don't know what you're doing.

Speaker 7 (02:08:02):
And if that dog feels threatened, it has a right
to defend. That's what they do.

Speaker 1 (02:08:07):
Well, it's a snake or iguana. Listen, that snake gets
away from you. Oh god, you can cause temper.

Speaker 7 (02:08:14):
Oh absolutely. You're in the Walmart, you got your python
with you?

Speaker 1 (02:08:19):
What right, you're digging around through the clothes, through the
predatis because you're looking for a new T shirt, right,
and it slithers away and the next thing you know,
oh my, it's up to my thigh on the toy section. Ah.

Speaker 10 (02:08:33):
I kind of have this thing like I think there's
an assumption of lack of wild animals or animals in
a walmart. We're just using this as an example. Yeah,
and so I just go in there with this expectation
of no animals. I always thought that we should be
the thing I shouldn't. When I'm on my hypervigilance of
looking out for you child predators, I'm not also looking

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out for the zoo keeper who has his pet with them.

Speaker 7 (02:09:00):
Right, just leave it home. It's weird, dudes.

Speaker 1 (02:09:03):
Yeah, leave your faidas at home. Man, Good for you.
You got a pet, right, good for you.

Speaker 9 (02:09:09):
You dress it up.

Speaker 7 (02:09:11):
Something loves you. Congratulations.

Speaker 9 (02:09:13):
All right, we gotta take a break. We'll be back.

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Speaker 15 (02:09:45):
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Speaker 9 (02:09:45):
What'd you learn today?

Speaker 1 (02:09:47):
I learn that it's totally natural for dead people to
talk and tell you that they're not dead. And I
also learned that there's only one direction you can go
when you fall off a balcony.

Speaker 10 (02:10:02):
I learned, Yeah, I sure want to look at my python.
You and I also learned God dang that Corbin. I'm
gonna teach him a lesson. You can be an accessory
to rape Corbin saying make sure that dishwasher is loaded right.

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This is Giffy and I'm sorry.

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