BMMS 12-2-24

We're Finally Back From Vacation!!!! We Talk About The Best & Worst Parts Of The Weekend, Barfing Sucks, People Are Bangin' Turkeys, Don't Lie To The Cops, When Grandma Grabs A Knife Everyone Gets Stabbed, We Spoke To An Awesome Listener, Jeff Hensly Stops By, & If yOu Planned On Going To The Sick New World Msic Festival...You're Gonna have To Make Other Plans!!!

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(03:00):
morning Corbyn, Good morning Gimpie, Good morning. We got best
and worst of the weekend we'll get to or week.
We've got tickets to see Trans Siberian Orchestra because it's
holiday time that shows Friday at the be Okay. Tickets
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or walk up to the box office. We've got our
listeners are awesome and apparently it was tumultuous over the
holiday because we got some questions about divorce. If you
need help navigating the divorce because you're tired of gibblet gravy,
Jeff Hans Hensley, gibble gravy is delicious. Bot, I don't

(03:43):
understand the hate, right, That's what it's there for, right,
That's why they put it in the turkey so you
can make greevy with it.

Speaker 7 (03:50):
Yeah, I mean, why else would they stuck in a
little paper sack, all right, and shove it down.

Speaker 1 (03:57):
It's gullet. Yeah yeah, yeah, whatever, hard liver kidney gravy. Anyway,
Jeff will be here to help you navigate the divorce.
I don't think you can go for grounds of giblet gravy,
but we'll ask him. You could incombat? What is it?
Irreconcilable differences? Sure? Yeah, yeah, I don't. I think that's

(04:21):
like the default. That's just like sure to Phil. Sorry, Judge,
we just can't get past the fact that she does
not like the giblet gravy. I was reading a thing
about like people's horror stories from Thanksgiving and like people
have it makes sense, I mean, because life's crazy. But

(04:42):
people vomiting on the Thanksgiving table.

Speaker 2 (04:46):
That would be awful.

Speaker 6 (04:48):
That would be the worst I think possible.

Speaker 1 (04:50):
That No, No, that's not the wor that's not the worst. No,
come on, Linday, somebody dropping dead at the table's the worst?

Speaker 2 (04:57):
Okay?

Speaker 1 (04:58):
Yes, sure, barfing on the t that is close.

Speaker 6 (05:01):
Yeah, because one person bars then the second person.

Speaker 1 (05:04):
I mean that's yeah, it's a barfar rama. Yeah.

Speaker 7 (05:06):
If somebody dies and just kills right here on the table,
boom head down on the plate full of mashed potatoes. Right,
you can still eat the food afterwards, you get the
dead body out of there, obviously, right, but you can
still continue want to eat your food.

Speaker 1 (05:21):
If somebody barfs all over.

Speaker 7 (05:23):
Thanksgiving dinner table with the whole spread out there on
that food's no good.

Speaker 1 (05:27):
Yeah, no good. I gotta be honest. If we're at
a table eating and somebody fate does a header into
the soup and you keep eating, we're probably done being
friends or hanging out together. I mean, I just don't
want to be around people that have I can just
want eat around a dead body. Like what if they're

(05:49):
morticians and they're used to that sort, I don't care
nine times out of tenure there for a reason.

Speaker 6 (05:55):
What if the person was drinking all day so you're like, oh,
they're probably just passed out, Oh.

Speaker 1 (06:00):
So ignorance, okay, yeah, and you just let them sit
there with their face in the mash tables, right, you
wake them up and tell them to go go to bed.
H Yeah, I don't know. And I saw another one
where like people like catch things on fire, like there
are Thanksgiving room because they catch something on fire, like
they don't see the oven mit somewhere or whatever. Oh yeah,
and you're like, okay, yeah, that feels plausible.

Speaker 2 (06:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (06:24):
Usually that happens when there's like too many people in
the kitchen right cooking at the same time.

Speaker 1 (06:29):
It's not just one because people make mistakes. I would
chalk it up to that, rather than like, oh, there's
chaos in here.

Speaker 2 (06:38):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (06:40):
Have you ever caught something on fire because there's too
many people in the kitchen.

Speaker 6 (06:44):
I've never really had too many people in the kitchen
growing up. It was always my grandmother doing all the cooking.

Speaker 1 (06:51):
Or yeah you individually, Yeah, have you ever caught something
on fire because there are too many people in the kitchen? Okay,
have you ever caught some on fire in the kitchen?

Speaker 2 (07:01):
I can't say that.

Speaker 1 (07:02):
I am never not even like a slight Oh oh no, interesting, gimp. Yeah,
I've got paper towels on fire before. Yeah.

Speaker 7 (07:13):
Yeah, and nine times out of ten I was the
only one in the kitchen. Well, that's just like cleaning
up or whatever. You get a little too close to
the flames or the unicoil or whatever.

Speaker 1 (07:21):
But so far as anything else outside of that, I
don't know. Yeah, No, it feels like a very common thing,
not not so bizarre, like vomiting on the dining room table.

Speaker 2 (07:32):
That is awful.

Speaker 1 (07:34):
Everybody's got a great vomit story. Mine is my buddy
in college and he vomited all over the hood of
his car and it was orange juice and fruit loops
all over the hood of his car. That yeah, oh
Cosby sweater. Huh. Yeah, I vomited down the side of
a car going down the highway, done plenty of plenty
of times. Wind just blowing cold November, and Kansas City.

Speaker 7 (07:56):
Just gives you that nice little streaky paint on the
side that does not go away even after you wash it,
which is always good.

Speaker 1 (08:05):
Yeah, But I don't have like vomiting on the dining
room table story from anyone, like ever being present for
anything like that.

Speaker 7 (08:11):
No, I think the closest I could probably get to
that it wasn't me. I was in the fourth grade
and uh, this fat kid named Eric. It was chocolate
milk Day and he had a little too much chocolate
milk and we're just sitting there in the lunch room
and he's guzzling down chi and the next thing you know,

(08:32):
it's a chocolate milk fountain all over the place, gross
on the table, floor, everywhere.

Speaker 1 (08:40):
That's about as clothes.

Speaker 6 (08:40):
As I can get to that vomiting and the smell
of milk in general when it comes back up is
just awful.

Speaker 1 (08:46):
Well, I was just wondering, is there something is it?

Speaker 8 (08:49):
Like?

Speaker 1 (08:51):
Is there like a pineapple juice factor, except in the
opposite way, Like, is there something that when you vomit
it smells worse? Because to me, it's like it smells worse, period.
It doesn't matter what it is. It all. I don't go, well,
this vomit didn't smell as bad. True statement, true statement.

Speaker 7 (09:06):
Like you eat a nice apple pie, you barf it up,
it does smell like apple pie. When you puke it up,
it smells like the inside of your stomach. But Lindsay
said milk smells worse. Yeah, and now kid vomit off
breast milk or whatever. I think that's like one their babies.

Speaker 1 (09:21):
Their tummies are still new, Like, yeah they got all
that that brand new bile haven't been damaged with the
years of drinking. Yeah, it's sure, sure, But is there
does food get where? Is milk worse when it vomits up? Again?
I've also not taken inventory. When some voments, it goes hmm,
this smells a little worse. What have you eaten?

Speaker 6 (09:43):
I think it's just because it just it sours.

Speaker 2 (09:48):
It smells awful.

Speaker 1 (09:49):
Well, it's all sour, isn't it?

Speaker 9 (09:51):
Is it?

Speaker 1 (09:51):
Your stomach sour right, because of the bile that's inside
of it? Yeah, I know, I don't know. There's only
one way to find out, do it. Dude. We got
a toy drive. We're gonna need to pass some time somehow. Yeah,
I'll stay on the microphone. Good luck. We'll see how
this experiment goes. You too. I will have the regular milk, Lindsey,

(10:12):
you will barfa.

Speaker 2 (10:12):
That's the worst that is.

Speaker 6 (10:14):
I hate vomiting, like I don't know anybody that loves it,
you know, Like.

Speaker 2 (10:18):
I always cry, like ugly crying.

Speaker 1 (10:21):
Yeah, always because your body's retracting something from its It's not.
No one loves it. No one looks good doing it.
No one feels better after it. Right, that's a good point.
You do feel better afterwards, No, no, no, no. There's been
times in that bar and I'm like, well I feel no, no, no, no,
you feel better moments later after your body has recovered. Okay,

(10:41):
In yours has gone down reduced.

Speaker 2 (10:44):
Yeah, yeah, I.

Speaker 1 (10:45):
Guess you're probably right. You're still a little bit miserable,
but yeah.

Speaker 6 (10:48):
The burn in your throat has gone away.

Speaker 1 (10:50):
Oh god. Two days later you get these weird buggers.
Where did that come from? Like corn flakes and a potato?
What's the red thing? I haven't eaten anything red in
a while. You need to go see a doctor, man. Yeah,
something going on in there. Uh. And I gotta be honest,
talking too much about vomit. They could trigger it.

Speaker 7 (11:13):
Uh huh for some people it can. And and then
then you start getting the sounds in vault.

Speaker 1 (11:20):
Yeah, like vomit. Like if Lindsay vomited it, I'd be like, okay,
and I would leave right. If my kids vomited or
something like that, I would be fine. It wouldn't bother
me the least bit. And it's funny how that works out.
It's all right when it's your kids, but or your spouse. No,
my wife cannot handle it really either could I Really?

Speaker 6 (11:42):
That's where I mean, that's where Kevin and I made
a great team, because if the kids vomited, he would
handle that, And if it was diarrhea, I could handle
that with the with the kids.

Speaker 1 (11:50):
Yeah. I don't know why women say this.

Speaker 7 (11:52):
Who's left, right one of the other kids make kept
your brother's vomit.

Speaker 1 (11:58):
Yeah, because you tapped out first.

Speaker 7 (12:00):
Are you supposed to be like, well, just let them
living in get the dog? Yeah, hey, come wlap this
up for me.

Speaker 1 (12:05):
Eh. Maybe it's more that cats will do. Yeah, they do,
and dogs are quick to get at it just as well.

Speaker 7 (12:15):
I don't know what it is. Maybe they don't smell
the bile. Maybe they do smell the apple pie because
their noses are so sensed that they're like, I want
some of that.

Speaker 1 (12:22):
I think because dogs at the basic form are scavengers, okay, right,
and they will pray and kip a doscil scavenge think
of like wolves and stuff. So maybe there's a little
bit like they don't care, right, I've never very few
dogs have told me it's because of some the way
something smells, they won't eat it. Right.

Speaker 7 (12:40):
These are also the same animals that will eat a
turd right out of the yards, yes, without any problems,
and then come lick you on your face.

Speaker 1 (12:46):
No.

Speaker 7 (12:49):
Yeah, Oh, they're great man's best friend. I got a
lot of friends, and none of them ever ate a
turd and they come lick me on the face.

Speaker 1 (12:57):
Yeah, and I'm very grateful for that. You're in your house,
maybe in your backyard probably definitely. But they didn't come
and lick me afterwards. So that's what separates us. They're
nice ladies, right, No, they're not also dogs. Uh yeah,

(13:22):
I don't know where the I'm going to look up
and try to research the where man's best friend? Like
how that became a thing? Is it just some guy
that was drunk? And like you've never left the spot? Right,
you're my best friend. You don't talk about I just
kick you come back. I just yell, let's use the paper.

(13:42):
Can't come back every time? You love me? You're my
best friend because you put up with me and all
my insecurities and not ability to love something correctly. And
I don't care and you don't care because you're dumb.
Cats are like, I don't know you hecklely, you're not
a good person, but neither of mine. You're right, that's cute.

(14:05):
You think you're in charge. Uh yeah, all right, So
we've got tickets tso we're gonna give away that shows
Friday at the Bok Center. We've got news quakies. When
we come back, Jo says morning show, the Big Bad
Barding Show.

Speaker 8 (14:18):
The assaulting continues next ninety seven KMOD.

Speaker 1 (14:34):
Good morning, It's the Big Mad Morning Show. Nine eight
four six oh KMOD can also text bmmass and then
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News quakies are probably a weird news story maybe you missed,
but we're going to cover it here right now. It's

(14:55):
time for newsquakies. World news, local news and news that
just makes you say, what the Here's Corbyn Gimpia Lindsay
with what's going on news quickies from the Big nd
Morning Show.

Speaker 6 (15:04):
In ninety seventy five, d man who lied about his
identity arrested after forgetting who he said he was.

Speaker 2 (15:13):
Fifty four year old.

Speaker 6 (15:15):
Richard Hallmark of winter Haven told police sergeant during a
traffic stop that his name was actually Robert Hallmark, so
when the sergeant discovered that a backpack in the car
contained marijuana and methamphetamines, Richard claimed that the backpack belonged
to his brother, Robert Hallmark. According to the Polk County

(15:38):
Sheriff's Office, pro boxer George Foreman famously had five sons
with the same name, and then there were the brothers
from the TV series Newhart Larry, his brother Darrel, and
his other brother Daryl, so it wasn't out of question
that there could be brothers who were both named Robert Hallmark.
Regardless of that, Richard reedies his heir and soon he

(16:02):
admitted to the sergeant that his name was actually Richard
and not Robert, and he lied about his name because
he had a warrant for his arrest. Richard's warrant was
for violation and probation and conspiracy to deliver meth.

Speaker 7 (16:20):
Yeah, they don't like don no, no, they do not,
but some people think they can get away with it.

Speaker 1 (16:25):
That's true.

Speaker 7 (16:27):
Grandma stabs family during Thanksgiving Day argument.

Speaker 1 (16:30):
This comes out of Memphis.

Speaker 7 (16:31):
Fifty five year old gal named Lashunda Johnson was having
Thanksgiving Day dinner with her family and I guess she
had been drinking all day and she pushed her grandson
down and that led to an argument with her daughter.
So what's the Lashoon to do? She goes the kitchen,
she gets a knife, She takes a swing at her daughter,

(16:53):
ends up cutting her minor injury, stabs the grandson right
there in the paul of his hand right there by
the thumb. Okay, there were some other kids there, but
they're fine. She ended up taking off leaven. Of course
police come out. They found her. Later, They found Lashmunda
and they arrested her, charged her with aggravated assaults and

(17:14):
domestic assault.

Speaker 1 (17:17):
Thanksgiving Man, Thanksgiving till somebody gets stay it right. I'm
gonna have to ask one of my police friends, like,
how many calls he goes on on Thanksgiving for domestics. Yeah,
I'm sure it's up there, and you.

Speaker 2 (17:29):
Get double time or over time if you go out.

Speaker 1 (17:31):
And get arrested on that day. I don't think so.
I think you have to work, oh on a holiday,
and I would imagine it's a holiday. Yeah, and not
go out like you're on patrol. Right. Dentist accused of
using household pliers on patient and Arizona dentist is under
fire for using pliers on a patient. Phoenix TV station

(17:55):
reports the unnamed dentist was recently suspended after using the
unsterilized tool. I'm sure he's a nice guy to remove
the tooth of a patient. The new station explained the
issue was brought forward by the dentist's own assistant. It's
unclear what kind of disciplinary action the dentist might be
facing or where he practices dentistry. Bitch make his name public, right.

Speaker 6 (18:14):
Absolutely, but did you see the size of his tooth?

Speaker 1 (18:19):
I always go with like, my dentists always are the
assistant always I see them open it in front of me. Yeah,
I think right. But there's times to getting knocked out right, No,
it's very uncommon. Some people do some people do to
get I mean, I guess some getting nitrous.

Speaker 7 (18:38):
Yeah, I'd fallen asleep on the gas before getting procedures done,
and there's no telling what they're doing.

Speaker 1 (18:46):
They go run off to the garage, the shed. But
nitrous is a low level sedative, so like you can
wake up and go. You're not like it isn't like
when you're getting drilled in the mouth.

Speaker 6 (18:56):
But isn't it laughing gas? It's not put you to
sleep gas. It's laughing gas.

Speaker 1 (19:01):
That's just the nickname, lindsay. It's it chills you out,
relaxes you, hence why you can fall asleep. Yeah, I've.

Speaker 2 (19:12):
A d where they're.

Speaker 7 (19:13):
Using to break out hysterics to start laughing in the
dentist chair.

Speaker 1 (19:17):
No, why not, it's laughing gas. I'll be honest, I
fall asleep in the dentist chair without laughing gas. Just
get comfortable and relying. I just it's not awesome. But
also I'm just tired and I'm laying still getting a
tattoo before I have tattoo.

Speaker 7 (19:36):
I have knotted off in a haircut before, which is
not good. I off haircuts all the time, not good
at all. My guy's always like, bro, my ash, Sorry, man,
I'm tired that buzzy who.

Speaker 1 (19:52):
Needs white noise. Get the clippers right, and I close
my eyes usually so i don't get hair in my eyes.
So I'm just like sitting there and then the next
thing you know, I'm like right, convulse in the chair.
I'm like, sorry, man, I have the feeling that you're falling.
Yeah yeah, yeah, but a dentist I have fallen the same.
But again, even if you go under for nitrous, they
don't just the moment you sit in the chair, they

(20:13):
put it on, like they prep you and they go
all right, are you ready, and then put it on right.

Speaker 7 (20:17):
I was just thinking there is a chance a possibility
that they're off getting you know, garden tools or whatever
while you're not paying attention or not looking.

Speaker 1 (20:26):
Some people like hate the dentist and they will only
see the dentist if they get nitrous, right, But not
all dentists do it either. No, they'll give you like
a valume. Some dentists will just one single low doses.
But you got to get that ahead of time, and
you got to go get it filled. Mm hmmmm. It's
not like they get it to you at the office. No, No,

(20:48):
I've never had to go that route. Yeah, and it's
different than if you're getting like a root canal. You
got to go see an orthopedic surgeon. Right, Yeah, forget
that man getting anxiety. I'm sweating just thinking about all
of it. All Right, we're gonna take a break and
we'll be back TILSA. This Morning Show continues next Good Morning.

(21:18):
It's the Big nine Morning Show nine one, eight four
six oh kmod. You can also text bmms and then
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We got two weeks of NFL predictions that we did
and last weekend, the weekend before of Thanksgiving, we did
uh lindsay had the we all had the vikings over

(21:39):
the Bears and that was true and then Chiefs Panthers,
Chiefs Voodoo Magic and one again, and then forty nine
Ers in Green Bay. Green Bay taught the forty nine
ers another lesson and get in the line everybody seems
to be doing. And so I went three and Oho
Gimbi and Lindsay Bowl two and one, and then this

(22:00):
past week and we even though we still have a
game tonight, we had the crazy snow game last night
with the Bills and forty nine Ers, And I mean,
all you gotta do is look at the injury list
and know that the forty nine er season is over.
We're done. We're done. It's McCaffrey going out with the
knee injury last night. Yeah. I don't know. I don't

(22:21):
know how one team can have traction and another team can't, right.

Speaker 7 (22:27):
I thought about that maybe because Buffalo is used to it.
San francs They don't play in the snow every day
all the time exactly, but they deal with a lot
more snow than San Francisco does. No, now that is true. However,
they have a team of professionals. Rock Pritty went to
college in Iowa.

Speaker 1 (22:43):
Like cold weather is not unknown, shouldn't and they should
have people that can tell them these are the cleat
you need, or you know, maybe the play column was
in anyway, it was terrible. Yeah, but we all picked
that one correctly. A matter of fact, we all went
three and zero. Chiefs beat the Raiders with the magic
again and then the Lions and Bears. That game was

(23:06):
hilarious and disappointing and hilarious all at the same time. Yeah,
I'm confident Bears fan went we suck. Well maybe not, Nope,
we do definitely, definitely do. Yeah, and we all know
how that ended out for them, So we all went
three and zho. So overall, this is how the current
standings are at the end of week thirteen, even though
that we didn't have the game tonight. But week thirteen

(23:29):
Gimbeaus twenty eight and eleven. I'm twenty seven and twelve,
and Lindsey is twenty five and fourteen. Now next week
Bears in forty nine Ers play each other, so we'll
throw in a different game. We're gonna thrown the Raiders Bucks.
That'll be fun into that mix as well, because the
Bucks game last night. They yesterday they should have lost
to the Panthers and the Panthers did. Panthers things and

(23:53):
ended up losing panthering it all up. Yeah, and then
apparently Baker Mayfield afterwards was seen in a boot. Oh
oh yeah, so that'll be interesting to see what happens.

Speaker 2 (24:04):
I was nervous.

Speaker 6 (24:05):
I was nervous after the Chiefs and Raiders game or
watching it that we might go to the toy drive
and Raider Nation might come in with a little bit
of bragging rights. Watching that game, it was I was.

Speaker 1 (24:16):
Really, yeah, even if they beat us, so what just
because every other team that's their super Bowl when they
play US doesn't make it the super Bowl, right, it
don't matter. And everybody's like, oh they didn't they barely
won or whatever. It's a dou w. It doesn't matter.

(24:36):
It's a dou w. Yeah, it doesn't matter. It's a win.
That's the end of the story. Now, could they play better,
Yes they could. A lot of people think they're not
even gonna make it to the championship. They might not.
I have no idea. A lot of things can happen,
but everybody's thinking there was some cheating happening. No, the

(24:58):
center took his cue from the guard to snap the ball.
The quarterback was quick, snapping right because they're the time.
So the guard thought it was time. He snapped. He
touched the center to tell him to snap. He snapped
the ball. That was that don't it's on the quarterback. Yeah,
it was hilarious to watch though. It was embarrassed. They

(25:20):
should be embarrassed, Yes, as they should. That is not
things that should be happening at that level as far
as I'm concerned. Right now, if you are six years
old playing, that makes sense. Now he should get a
little bit of a break because he's the third quarterback, right,
he's their third string quarterback. Even then, you're a professional

(25:41):
football player, man, you should know. It feels like they
should have that lined out right. Yeah, I don't disagree.
I'm glad they didn't. I'm glad they didn't.

Speaker 6 (25:58):
And finally I got to say that my prayers were
answered when the Matt Eberflus era is finally over in Chicago.

Speaker 2 (26:05):
They fired the head coach after the.

Speaker 6 (26:07):
Twenty three to twenty lost bans on Thanksgiving. Ibra Flues
was hired after the twenty twenty one season. He led
Chicago to a fourteen and thirty two record during his
two and a half seasons at the Helm. The Bears
got off to a four and to start this season
before losing their last six games. Interim offensive coordinator Thomas

(26:29):
Brown was promoted to interim head coach after Abraflu's dismissal.

Speaker 1 (26:34):
Head guys that are they're saying are up for the job.
Rabel from Tennessee. He's been on he's out on the beach.
Cliff Kingsbury, who's the offensive coordinator for the Redskins. He
was the coach of the Arizona Cardinals. He was Texas
Tech coach. Right, So that's an interesting one. I don't
that'll be interesting because I don't know if he wants
to go back to being a head coach. Right, and

(26:57):
then the I believe the offensive coordinat for the Lions
is also in the running. Which all that this early on,
it's all just chatter, right, Yeah, it's all just nobody knows.
It's just a bunch of smoke.

Speaker 2 (27:11):
Maybe Belichick will come in.

Speaker 1 (27:13):
No, he's not going to coach that organization. No, No,
the Bears are a mess.

Speaker 2 (27:17):
They sure are.

Speaker 1 (27:17):
Whoever they bring in has to deal with the fact
that they have a new coach every few years. There's
no stability. This is now another quarterback with another new
coach will come in with not their quarterback choice, and
that just usually does not work out. Yeah, it has
not worked out for all the previous quarterbacks that they've picked.

(27:39):
I don't know, man, It'll be interesting to see it
play out. If they have it secured by the end
of the year, that the end of the season, that'll
be amazing, But I doubt it.

Speaker 6 (27:49):
Yeah. Jayden Daniels had four total touchdowns while helping the
Washington Commanders throttle the Tennessee Titans forty two to nineteen
at Northwest Stadium. The rookie signal caller completed twenty five
to thirty passes for two hundred and six yards, three
touchdowns and an interception to help Washington snap a three
game losing streak. He also rushed for thirty four yards

(28:10):
and a touchdown. Brian Robinson Junior and Chris Rodriguez Junior
combined to rush for one hundred and ninety seven yards
and two scores, while Terry McLaurin had eight catches for
seventy three yards and two touchdowns. The Commanders are second
in the NFC East at eight and five. Titans Qbwill
Levis went eighteen of thirty seven for two hundred and

(28:30):
twelve yards and two touchdowns and the losing effort. The
Titans have lost three of their last four and sit
third in the AFC South at three and nine.

Speaker 1 (28:38):
So right now the Redskins are going to be a
seventh seed that'd have to take on Philadelphia if everything
ended today, which I would hate to play Philadelphia right now.

Speaker 6 (28:47):
And that is your balls to the wall Sports. I'm
Lindsay in ninety seven to five km odin.

Speaker 1 (29:11):
Good morning, It's the Big Mad Morning Show. Nine one,
eight four six OKMOD can also text bmmass and then
what you want to say to eight two nine four
five Good morning Lindsay, Good morning Corbyn.

Speaker 6 (29:27):
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Speaker 7 (29:51):
Good morning gim Pee, Well, good morning Corbyn. The sixth
annual Cowboy Cup is coming up next week next Friday
and Saturday, December thirteenth and fourteenth. It's at the Exchange
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(30:11):
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medical card.

Speaker 1 (30:21):
Good luck, best and worst of the weekend. What's the
best thing that happened this weekend? And the worst thing
that happened this weekend? H lindsay what's the best and
what's the worst?

Speaker 6 (30:32):
So, I mean we were gone for the week and
where'd you go get kicked?

Speaker 1 (30:37):
Well?

Speaker 6 (30:37):
No, no, no, I mean we weren't physically oh okay
here And I thought I had woken up on that
first Saturday and my nose was all stuffed up and
I thought, oh my gosh, I do not want to
be sick over the holiday. So the worst part was
waking up completely not being able to breathe, and my

(31:01):
throat was kind of hurting, and I figured it hurt
because I'm breathing out of my mouth, you know, obviously,
because I can't breathe out of my nose. So I
went to I couldn't get into my doctor, so I
went into urgent care, and urgent care tells me, oh,
it's viral, so you're just going to have to let
it ride.

Speaker 2 (31:18):
Can't treat you with anything.

Speaker 6 (31:20):
I'm like, man, I know around this time I always
get like a sinus infection, so I figured that's what
it was. But of course they're not going to treat me.
So I had a physical coming up that following Monday
with my doctor. So I go in and they were like, oh,
you totally have a sinus infection.

Speaker 2 (31:39):
Thank god.

Speaker 1 (31:40):
Sorry, I'm trying to follow the timeline. This happened on
what day last week? You're sign you.

Speaker 6 (31:43):
Woke up Saturday night?

Speaker 1 (31:45):
Okay?

Speaker 2 (31:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (31:46):
And the following Monday, I had a physical for insurance,
went in and my doctor was like, yeah, you totally
have a sinus infection. So thankfully got on antibiotics and
wasn't sick for the holiday, which was great, but it
was a waste of three hours sitting in urgent care
because I was so desperate to not be sick for
the holiday, only for them to say, no, there's nothing
we can do. Just over the counter stuff.

Speaker 2 (32:08):
Will help you.

Speaker 1 (32:09):
Which urgent care did you go to Medwise because you
can usually schedule your time.

Speaker 6 (32:15):
Yeah, you can, but I usually get into my doctor,
so I didn't even think to go online. I didn't
know that really was a thing. I learned after the
fact when I was there. But I walked in, They're like,
it's about an hour and a half.

Speaker 1 (32:28):
Wait, oh god, I'd leave.

Speaker 6 (32:30):
I was just you know what, I'm here now, I
may as well just wait.

Speaker 1 (32:35):
I've even gone. We're like, there's no appointments of the
medwives near me, and I'll go to another Medwise so
I can get in at the time I want and
not have to wait.

Speaker 2 (32:43):
Yeah, that's nice God.

Speaker 6 (32:45):
And that was a little disappointed too, because at check
out the doctor was like, well, don't worry though, I'll
give you the best I'll tell you which ones to use,
the over the counter meds that will really help. And
I'm looking at the sheet when I'm leaving there was
no recommendations whatsoever listed. What the heck I.

Speaker 2 (33:01):
Thought he was going to give me a bunch of recommendations.

Speaker 1 (33:04):
Unbelievable.

Speaker 10 (33:05):
I know, what a dick right.

Speaker 6 (33:08):
So thankfully my doctor did hook me up with antibiotics
and knocked it out within I don't know, maybe forty
eight hours and I was back to my normal self.

Speaker 2 (33:18):
What do you give you the big old horse pill?

Speaker 6 (33:23):
It was augmenting, I believe an anbiotic. Yeah, it was
big horse pill, and uh yeah it was felt a
lot better. Best part, I mean, the holiday Thanksgiving was great.

Speaker 2 (33:37):
Good food.

Speaker 6 (33:39):
I feel like I gained probably ten or fifteen pounds,
but well worth it. Food was great, My mac and cheese,
the chili's in there, the chilies, yes, changer, Yes it
is delicious.

Speaker 1 (33:51):
Not the jar is not cheap, but you only need
a little bit, but worth it.

Speaker 2 (33:55):
Yes.

Speaker 6 (33:55):
And I also found a ah oh Guda cheese with
those chilis in it, and that was really good too,
and that was found at Aldi day, So huge success.

Speaker 1 (34:11):
Best and worst of the weekend? What's the best thing
that happened this weekend? And the worst thing that happened
this weekend? BMMS and whatever that is to the phone
number eight two nine four five can be what's the
best and what's the worst? I guess the best part
of the week would have been Saturday. Got together for
the third Thanksgiving dinner this week. Bo. We got together
a bunch of friends, my crew people, the Shenanigans group.

(34:33):
We all brought something. I smoked a turkey, you know,
somebody else brought a ham, and somebody else brought stopping
and lash data. Isn't just all the fixes and whatn't
no friends giving action? Yeah?

Speaker 7 (34:44):
Man, we just sat around and ate and drank and
did karaoke and just had a good time gathering around.

Speaker 1 (34:52):
Did somebody have a karaoke machine?

Speaker 9 (34:54):
Uh?

Speaker 7 (34:54):
No, We got microphones and we just throw it up,
use it on our phone like YouTube or whatever, throw
it up on the televisi. Ah, and then you know,
use the microphone through the Bluetooth.

Speaker 1 (35:03):
Speaker, so a little get over my life. It works, man,
it works, It gets the job done. I guess.

Speaker 7 (35:09):
Really, the worst part about the weekend there really wasn't.
All the food that I ate from three Thanksgiving dinners
kind of caught up to me yesterday and I was
a fat, lazy soal.

Speaker 1 (35:21):
But you know, not a bad thing, I guess, but
you gotta have something, so there you go. Best and
worst the weekend. What's the best thing that happened this weekend?
And the worst thing that happened this weekend? BMMS and
whatever that is to the phone number eight two nine
four five. Best part My youngest had her seventh birthday
and so we had like a party and my brother

(35:42):
came into town. We got to watch Chiefs game together,
which was fun. Yeah, so that was pretty great. My
kid had her birthday party her actual birthday that like,
she got so many presents, it's like lasted a week
dang ridiculous. And then the uh, the worst part of

(36:02):
the weekend would have to be I I don't know
if I have a worst Probably we had a family
friend that had to get their fingers amputated off. Really
an accident, what Yeah, the second one they've had amputated off.
Fearless and courage, ignorance and courage. I don't know, that

(36:24):
was a too interesting interesting things. Good for them getting
their fingers locked off? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that might
be the worst. Like you never know, one minute you're
saw in the next minute you don't fingers. Like life's crazy,
it comes at you fast. What are you going to do? Right?
Best got to spend four straight days with my wife.

(36:48):
Worst didn't get any action in those four days. That's
on you, brouh is it?

Speaker 5 (36:54):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (36:54):
Man?

Speaker 7 (36:54):
I know it's a fifty to fifty thing, but sounds
like it did even dry like you just like I'm
off for the next four days. He just puts his
arms across behind his head.

Speaker 1 (37:04):
Exactly. I've been waiting right here.

Speaker 7 (37:06):
Yes, maybe he did try, and if you did, I apologize.
Get it together, woman.

Speaker 1 (37:13):
Right, Maybe she had a stomach bug. I don't know.
Right she had sex with her husband when she had
a stomach bug. Bitch, you know, shaking it up. It's
a fine. Best work with my dad and got my
sixty one year old truck running. Worst didn't fry a
turkey for Thanksgiving because the oil was seventy dollars. Roast

(37:34):
a turkey is still pretty good.

Speaker 9 (37:35):
It is.

Speaker 1 (37:35):
It is pretty good. You know what I learned from
a chef and I went and checked it because I wasn't.
I was like, this doesn't make sense. Brining a turkey
is a waste of time. Really, Why is that? Because
at best, at best you might make the skin taste good. Okay,
I locked in.

Speaker 7 (37:54):
I had the juiciest goddamn turkey I have ever made.
This year, it's squirted all over the place, like driving
down the road because I have my brother transport turkey
for me in his truck. Ause I rolled my bike
out to the friends giving or whatever, and the passenger
in the back seat sitting there minding their own business,
turkey squirt all over them, you know. So that's stopping
adjust that cut into it, and it's just juice is

(38:16):
just rolled on out of there.

Speaker 1 (38:17):
Yeah. And I chalked it up to brining it for
twenty four hours. Yeah, and the most turkeys you buy
from the gross store, Butterball whatever already briand but turkeys.
Did I hear about that whole?

Speaker 5 (38:33):
No?

Speaker 1 (38:33):
Oh my god, you didn't know. It was all over
TikTok all week long.

Speaker 7 (38:37):
Apparently there's some workers at the butter Ball farms that
were sexually abusing the turkeys there at the farm. And
that was like that was all on my feed for
like days days, this big controversy. So like like a
farm where they're yeah, and and people are saying they

(39:00):
were having sex with turkeys, yes, And how do they
know it's a Butterball turkey.

Speaker 1 (39:04):
Farm because I guess that's where. But I don't know.
There's big signus says butterball whatever, you know. But I
don't know how they know. But it took over my feed,
and how many times do you watch it? Boy? Why
is best reality in your algorithm at all? It's just news.
It's just news. That's not news. It's not the best reality.

(39:25):
It was just in the news, and it was like
every time you scroll, it was like there they go
humping turkeys again, blah blah. It showed them.

Speaker 7 (39:33):
This showed some undercover footage somebody that went in and
taking the video and and showed some I have to
see if I can't find the video for you.

Speaker 1 (39:42):
But I mean, I don't want it to my algorithm.

Speaker 2 (39:45):
But it wasn't pet that had gone in, was it?

Speaker 1 (39:48):
I think so? I think so. But maybe maybe it
was one of their their workers, you know, PETA sending
in people to go hump turkeys just so they can
try to, you know, wreck up the butter ball. But
I don't know, I don't know, but I think it
was the funniest damn thing. Yeah see all week, Yeah
that's funny. I don't know how much I buy into

(40:09):
that as someone who's worked on a poultry farm, not
once did I think about having sex with an animal? No,
not once past one nineteen k at the casino, worst relapsed.
It was the first time I gambled in five months.

Speaker 6 (40:24):
Woh, that's interesting though, like when your relapse actually pays
off for you nineteen thousand.

Speaker 2 (40:33):
I mean, yeah, it sucks.

Speaker 1 (40:34):
I don't know if it paid off. But because you no,
I hear you, but you're you know, you're propping up yeah,
gambling because now, how much will he lose because the
fuses live?

Speaker 2 (40:47):
Yeah, that is true.

Speaker 1 (40:48):
And how much did he lose in the time before?
So maybe he did win, But does it cover any
of the losses he's had and all the time that
he gambled?

Speaker 2 (40:59):
Yeah, good point.

Speaker 7 (41:00):
I just sitched you an article about the turkey humping
and I was just scrolling through and it's got the guy.
He's all shadowed out so you can't see him whatever.

Speaker 1 (41:07):
He's like one guy humped a shackle turkey one day
and another time. I love this warning distressing content to
some right, right, I mean, okay, he hatcheted it, but oh,

(41:29):
you can't be doing that. I mean, if you've worked
on a farm, some pretty distressing things happen on farms.
Absolutely absolutely throwing chickens in the cage.

Speaker 7 (41:43):
You've talked about that before, Yes, you know, but I
think there's a difference between cramming more chickens in a
cage than what should be there and then cramming something
into a turkey.

Speaker 6 (41:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (41:55):
And this article says the video is nearly twenty years old. Eh,
and it's just re surfacing on social media. I'm telling you,
I have zero faith in anything I find online when
it being news, And it would not surprise me at
all whatsoever.

Speaker 7 (42:12):
If there was actual employees out there sexually molestering the
animals at the farms that they work at, it wouldn't
surprise me at all.

Speaker 1 (42:21):
How many times it would surprise me. I'm good with
that it would surprise me. I'm just not going to
assume every farm has animals getting raped.

Speaker 7 (42:31):
I'm sure most of them are clean, right, But how
many animal or excuse me, how many news stories have
I read about people getting caught humping a horse in
a barn or sheep, the sheep or some other kind
of farm animal or whatnot.

Speaker 1 (42:47):
So it's enough to make it an anomaly, and that's
why it makes the news. I think it is the
news story isn't going, and the plague of best reality continues.
That's not the news story. Maybe it is. I don't know.
Uh worst me and my oldest had a stomach bug. Yeah,

(43:09):
the stomach bugs can be pretty disappointing. All right, we
gotta take a break. We've got tickets to tso we're
gonna give away Elsa's.

Speaker 8 (43:16):
Morning Show, The Big Man Boarding Show. The assault continues
next n'ety seven five M.

Speaker 1 (43:33):
Good morning, It's the Big Man Morning Show. Nine six
oh K M O D. Let's play a game. Nine
six O K O. He is the phone number to play.
As we have tickets to see Trans Siberian Orchestra at
the Bok Center Friday. You need tickets, go to b

(43:56):
Okcenter dot com. We're gonna play flick off. Is that right?
You got it? Man? Okay. Everybody kind of paused and
I was like, oh that right, Yeah, you got a man,
You nailed a good job. Wait, this works as I've
got movie quotes, some easy, some difficult, some not so difficult.
You've got to get at least two of them right

(44:19):
to win those tickets to see Trans Siberian Orchestra. These
are all very popular movies. Now maybe you weren't born
yet or you were young when they came out, but
they're still very popular movies. Nine eight four six, Oh kmod,
Let's get our first contestant here and we'll go go here.

(44:40):
Good morning, you're on the air. What is your name, Beth? Beth?
How are you today?

Speaker 9 (44:44):
I'm good? Are you good?

Speaker 1 (44:45):
Beth? You know your movies?

Speaker 9 (44:48):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (44:48):
I do. Excellent, Beth. I'll give you your first quote
here and you tell me what movie it's from. Here
we go. Uh, it's not a tumor.

Speaker 6 (45:02):
Kittergarden cop.

Speaker 1 (45:04):
Excellent job. That is correct. You only need one more
to win those tickets. Okay, okay, I gonna be honest.
I thought that was gonna stump you.

Speaker 9 (45:14):
No, I know exactly. Always says that I'm not going
to do the impression.

Speaker 1 (45:17):
Come on, come on, let's I'm not clear on it,
so I need some clarification.

Speaker 9 (45:23):
Okay, it's.

Speaker 1 (45:27):
Nice. All right, here's the second one. This is Sparta.

Speaker 9 (45:40):
Okay, I can picture it. I want to say I
have two Oh.

Speaker 1 (45:44):
Gladiator, Gladiator is Gladiator? Is that where you're picking?

Speaker 9 (45:52):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (45:52):
Yeah, Gladiator is incorrect. It was three hundred people get
those confused all the time. That's okay. Okay, that's all right,
because you're gonna get this one. Okay, you're gonna die clown.

(46:18):
I can do it in the voice. Do you want
me to do it in the voice? Yeah, you're gonna
die clown. That's actually really horrible. That's not even hold on,
that's really bad. I gotta think of the I gotta
think of the character. Hold on, let me let me
do it for a second. Hold on. Okay, it's a

(46:41):
hard character to get into.

Speaker 10 (46:42):
Do you know that?

Speaker 1 (46:42):
Do you know it? Gimpie? Do you know what lindsay?
Do you know the character?

Speaker 2 (46:46):
Kinda?

Speaker 1 (46:50):
Yeah? Die can love that. It is your guess. Yeah,
but it's not no, because Lindsay made a reaction and
you heard it. That is not it. I'm sorry. It
is actually happy Gilmore mat Yeah, you're you're a good

(47:15):
sport girl. Thank you.

Speaker 2 (47:18):
Your second.

Speaker 1 (47:19):
Adam Sandler, good morning, you're on the air. What is
your name, Mike, Mike? How are you today, buddy? I'm good.
You got to get three to win these tickets to
Trans Siberian Orchestra. Okay, all right, all right, here you go.
Here's the first one to Infinity and Beyond.

Speaker 9 (47:43):
Toy story.

Speaker 1 (47:47):
Got a little helper there. Yes, toy story is correct. Man,
here is the second one. I'll be your Huckleberry.

Speaker 9 (48:00):
Tombstone.

Speaker 1 (48:01):
That's correct man. Congratulations, you're getting those tickets. Yes, very exciting.
Hang on the line so we can get your info.
We gotta take a break and we'll be back.

Speaker 8 (48:13):
The Big Med Morning Show returns next Tulsa's Morning Show
ninety seven five KMOD.

Speaker 1 (48:29):
Good morning. It's the Big Mad Morning Show. Nine one
eight four six oh kmo D. You can also text
BMMS and then what you want to say to eight
two nine four five. Let's go ahead and see what's
in Ghippes four by four gold. It's this here that
Biden pardons his son Hunter. He said in a statement

(48:50):
yesterday that no reasonable person who looked at the facts
in this case can read a conclusion that Hunter wasn't
singled out just for being the president's son. The news
comes as jb has said previously he would not use
his authority to partner on or commute hunter sentence for
his conviction on federal gun charges. This is really fascinating

(49:14):
because one people are shocked a politician wasn't honest, right.
Two presidents pardoned tons of people in the final part
of their presidency in the hundreds, right right, right, this
one just each president happens to be his son, So
people are like, I gotta be honest, I don't think
he should have. But also, if my dad was the

(49:34):
president for real, I pardoned me yes, if my son
was in trouble and I was yes, what else we
got here?

Speaker 7 (49:44):
Environmental groups demand EPA to start monitoring microplastics in water
are hitting news right here. Over one hundred and seventy
environmental nonprofits are calling on the EPA to begin tracking
microplastics and drinking water.

Speaker 1 (49:58):
The group filed a petition asking the EPA to add
the tracking of microplastics and drindern king water to the
SAP Drinking Water Active twenty and twenty six. Boy.

Speaker 7 (50:10):
Microplastics or tiny pieces of plastic dirt that shed from
plastic products that hold chemicals such as p fas and
that alas that are linked to a slew of health issues,
including cancer and hormone disruption.

Speaker 1 (50:27):
You can't get away from plastics or literally everything you use. Yeah.
How about if you drink out of a straw.

Speaker 7 (50:37):
The cup that you're drinking out of, Yes, yeah, even
if it's a solar paper one. Yeah, yeah, whatever, you know,
like McDonald's cups whatever, They still plastic line, they're not
completely paper.

Speaker 1 (50:47):
Yeah. I think this is more about those single use
like when people get their lunch meat in one of
those and then they use it for their lunch the
next you know, nine years, even when it's red stained. Yeah,
I'm that guy. I'm fine, sort of fine as a
relative to it. Light mail.

Speaker 7 (51:03):
I found this one for you, Lindsey. Costco to stop
selling books at most stores. Not only do they get
it for Lindsay because she's a Costco shopper and I
know that, but the very last line on this story
I thought.

Speaker 1 (51:15):
Was just hilarious.

Speaker 7 (51:17):
Costco will stop selling books at most of its stores
starting in January. The discount warehouse chain will remove the
book section sections at about hundred five hundred of its
six hundred stores.

Speaker 1 (51:29):
Easy for you to say, I tell you about it.
The company says it's making the change because stocking books
is labor intensive. They're like, we just I don't want
to put books on a shelf anymore. Isn't all of
it labor intensive? Right?

Speaker 10 (51:42):
Right?

Speaker 1 (51:42):
I gotta be honest when the Costco I go to
in the book section. Yeah, there's never anybody in it,
but the clothing section they must have like seven or
eight employees. Oh yeah working in that sect. So okay.

Speaker 6 (51:56):
And they're not actually on shelves, they're just stacked yeh,
on tables.

Speaker 1 (52:01):
Well, that is very labor intensive. They have a great
kids book selection. They do like give it up the holidays.
If your kid reads like Pete the Cat. They have
like a thing of all the Pete the Cat books.
I didn't even know they sold books the.

Speaker 6 (52:13):
Dog Man series exactly love them.

Speaker 7 (52:17):
And lastly, here City of Tulsa inauguration to swear in
Mayor elect and other officials.

Speaker 1 (52:22):
Today. Mayor Elect Monroe Nichols will be sworn in as
the first black mayor of Tulsa Today. Along with Nichols,
Nath Pickard will take the oath of office as the
city's new auditor, and four new city councilors will join
five returning councilors on the Tulsa City Council. All nine
will take oath during the inauguration. Congratulations.

Speaker 6 (52:55):
The Big Ten is finding Ohio State and the University
of Michigan. Over Saturday's post game brawl, members of the
OSU football team went after some Michigan players as they
attempted to plan to their flag at midfield after their
upset thirteen to ten victory over.

Speaker 2 (53:13):
Number two Ohio.

Speaker 6 (53:16):
OSU head coach Ryan Day addressed the matter afterwards. Each
school must pay one hundred thousand dollars for violating the
conference's sportsmanship policy, and OSU police officers suffered a head
injury while trying to separate players and was sent to
the hospital, but he has since been released. Meanwhile, an
investigation has been launched into the use of pepper spray

(53:37):
by some members of law enforcement.

Speaker 1 (53:39):
Good they used it, Yeah, I agree.

Speaker 6 (53:41):
They were acting like idiots, Yes, they sure were.

Speaker 1 (53:43):
If they would have played that hard, Yeah, during the game,
they wouldn't. There's a way to stop them from planting
the flag. Beat them, right And should they plant the
flag or not? I don't know. But they lost. You
lost bad. That team needs to learn how to lose.

(54:05):
Everybody was acting a fool, right, But that was that
was insane. That was that was insane. Guys running aund
without their helmets off, trying to fight people. What are
you doing? Come on, children, children.

Speaker 6 (54:17):
Don't come out that confident because anything can happen.

Speaker 1 (54:22):
You lost. Yeah, you don't look better by doing that,
because guess what they made out I physically planted the
flag They metaphorically did right, right. You lost to a
team you shouldn't have for the fourth time.

Speaker 10 (54:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (54:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (54:42):
The Jets are going to likely be without their starting
left tackle for the rest of the season. Tyron Smith
was placed on injured reserve on Saturday with a neck issue.

Speaker 2 (54:52):
The thirty four year.

Speaker 6 (54:53):
Old hasn't played since November tenth, when he suffered the
injury during the loss to the Cardinals. Smith is required
to miss the next four games, but could return for
the final two matchups of the season. New York signed
the former Cowboys standout to a one year, six and
a half million dollar deal in the off season.

Speaker 1 (55:09):
That ain't gonna matter.

Speaker 6 (55:11):
Yeah. The The LA Chargers defense had four interceptions en
route to a seventeen to thirteen takedown of the Atlanta
Falcons at Mercedes Benz Stadium. Daryub Steele had two interceptions,
including a sixty one yard pick six in the third quarter.
Derwin James Junior and Marcus May also had interceptions as

(55:31):
the Chargers notch their fifth win in the last six games.
Justin Herbert completed sixteen of twenty three passes for one
hundred and forty seven yards, and Lad mcconkee totaled nine
receptions four one hundred and seventeen yards. The Chargers are
second now in the AFC West at eight and four.
Kirk Cousins went twenty four of thirty nine for two

(55:52):
hundred and forty five yards and four picks for Atlanta,
while but Jean Robinson rushed for one hundred and two
yards in a score. The Falcons have lost three in
a row and are currently first in the NFC South
at six and six.

Speaker 1 (56:05):
Say that again. Say that last sentence again.

Speaker 6 (56:07):
I know the Falcons have lost three in a row
and are currently first in the NFC South at six
and sex.

Speaker 1 (56:14):
That sucks because Minnesota is like nine and two and
they're in second place. That's wild.

Speaker 6 (56:21):
The Eagles march their way to a twenty four to
nineteen victory over the Baltimore Ravens and a battle between
two of the league's best teams. Skwan Barkley sealed the
game with a twenty five yard touchdown run with just
under eight minutes remaining, and finished with twenty three carries
for one hundred and seven yards and the score. Jalen
Hurts also rushed for a touchdown and completed eleven of

(56:43):
nineteen passes for one hundred and eighteen yards and another score.
The Eagles have won eight straight and seitt atop the
NFC East at ten and two. Lamar Jackson went twenty
three of thirty six for two hundred and thirty seven
yards and two touchdowns while rushing for an additional seventy
nine yards. The Ravens have lost two of their last
three and sit second in the AFC North at eight

(57:07):
and five. Derrick Henry ran for eighty two yards in
the setback.

Speaker 1 (57:11):
I think everybody's like all the Ravens are done. I
don't think so. They're playing some tough teams and they're
just having a hard time getting together, but they are good.
I also don't love the conversation of Saquon Barkley being
an MVP. He's playing great. Yeah, he's an amazing human being,
But would he be in the conversation if he wouldn't
have jumped over that guy. I don't think so, Probably not,

(57:32):
but it's still an amazing Yeah. No, that is some
highlight videos for life. Yeah, but I don't and he's
playing really good. He's having a great season. All those things.
A lot of guys are having great seasons. I don't
know how Josh Allen doesn't walk away with it. He
looks unbelievably good.

Speaker 6 (57:50):
The Vikings are on a five game winning streak following
a twenty three to twenty two win over the Cardinals
at US State Stadium. The Purple took the lead for
the first time, and Sam Donald hit Aaron Jones for
a five yard touchdown with just over a minute left
in regulation. Check Griffin intercepted a pass on the ensuing
drive to seal Minnesota's win. Donald passed for two hundred

(58:11):
and thirty five yards and two touchdowns during the victory,
while Justin Jefferson caught seven passes for ninety nine yards.
The Vikings remain in second place in the NFC North
at ten and two. Kyler Murray passed for two hundred
and sixty yards and a touchdown two interceptions, and Trey
McBride caught twelve passes for ninety six yards. The Cardinals
haven't won in Minnesota since moving from Saint Louis to Arizona.

Speaker 1 (58:34):
Listen to the stat twelve games in week thirteen were
decided by seven or fewer points, which is tied for
the most in a single week in NFL history. It's
pretty like people go, oh, they only won by one point. Ah,
they only won by this one. That seems to be
the common theme this year is that games are.

Speaker 7 (58:50):
That closey ty, and I think you said it best
this morning. It's a w no matter why, right, whether
it's one point or twenty points, a win, yeh.

Speaker 1 (58:59):
A win is a win. Yeah. Once the game is
over and it's a win. Who cares how you want?

Speaker 9 (59:03):
Right?

Speaker 3 (59:04):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (59:04):
Who cares?

Speaker 2 (59:05):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (59:06):
The other great game yesterday the Steelers outlasting their AFC
North rival Bengals forty four to thirty eight from Cincinnati.
Russell will Wilson exploded for four hundred and fourteen passing yards,
three touchdowns and a pick. George Pickens had seventy four
receiving yards and a touchdown as Pittsburgh improved to nine
and three. Najee Harris added seventy five yards and a

(59:26):
score on the ground in the victory. Joe Burrow threw
for three hundred and nine yards, three touchdowns and an interception.
Jamar Chase at eighty six receiving yards and a touchdown
as since he lost its third straight game and dropped
to four and eight.

Speaker 1 (59:39):
How about they are the best four and four and
eight team out there, like they probably are more an
eight and fourteen, right, Joe Burrow's playing lights out good.
They just are not winning games, no at all.

Speaker 2 (59:53):
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All right. Time for our listeners are awesome when we
talk with the listener and they share a part of
their story with us. And today on the line with us,
we have Paula, Hey, Paula, how are you? Hey, Paula,
how are you?

Speaker 9 (01:01:20):
I'm sorry, excuse my crazy cow dogs? I'm good. How
are you?

Speaker 1 (01:01:24):
What's a cow dog?

Speaker 9 (01:01:28):
He's a miniature blue Healer vyel crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:01:32):
Excuse him?

Speaker 1 (01:01:33):
Okay?

Speaker 9 (01:01:34):
He's done his own Facebook page?

Speaker 2 (01:01:37):
Really yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:01:38):
And how does he post with more thumbs?

Speaker 9 (01:01:42):
It's called the Adventures about the People of Pulling Landing, Oklahoma.
Made it for him because he like he hesitancy going
to the Dollar General still has a little bone run
out the store.

Speaker 1 (01:01:53):
How does he get into the Dollar General store?

Speaker 9 (01:01:56):
He walks into the store. I kid you not. He
makes his little like he would chuck across the lake.
It takes him about twenty minutes, takes me about forty
five to get over there and get him back. And
then he goes in. He bidsits all the people goes
for his little golf cart rides. They take him on
the tractor. Then he goes to the dollar Store, gets
his bone, and he leaves.

Speaker 1 (01:02:18):
So he leaves your house and goes to the Dollar General.
And then people give him rides on their golf carts
or tractors or whatnot.

Speaker 9 (01:02:26):
Absolutely look it up. It's the Adventures of Bowser. He'll
see him all over it.

Speaker 1 (01:02:30):
Yeah, yeah, And do you feel any responsibility to ensure
he doesn't get out?

Speaker 9 (01:02:36):
I kind of gave up a little bit because I
had I have an eight foot so he clears it,
and so I try to put him on a chain
with a little baby chain. But then I felt little
guilty and I'm like, I can't do this to this dog.
And so before I moved up here at Rutherford, I
have three acres of lamb down there, so you know
he had his own land. But when he crosses the lake,

(01:02:59):
he's in the community of form Landing. So adopted himself
a grandma over there named Ruth. So when he makes
it over there, he'll go straight to Ruth's. Typically, I
just check him point before he hits up Dollar General.

Speaker 1 (01:03:13):
What's the longest he's been gone from the house.

Speaker 9 (01:03:16):
He's two days and he typically would stay the night
at Ruth's and then I go pick him up the
next morning because it takes me like forty five minutes
to drive over there and forty five minutes back and
I'm like, we're gonna stay the night, homie.

Speaker 1 (01:03:30):
Wow. So yes, was all, yeah, that that feels crazy.
How long have you had this dog.

Speaker 11 (01:03:39):
Halloween?

Speaker 1 (01:03:41):
Since Halloween?

Speaker 9 (01:03:42):
Yes, he just turned one, so I had him to
see six weeks old.

Speaker 1 (01:03:46):
Okay, so he's still a puppy.

Speaker 9 (01:03:48):
He is, and he is the most friendliest dog. He
loves everybody, and everybody loves him. And this is what
happens when all your kids grows up, you know, they
leave you these dogs, And do you ever worry.

Speaker 1 (01:04:00):
About somebody like shooting him or him get getting hit
by a car.

Speaker 9 (01:04:06):
So the path he takes though, so it's all farm country.
The ladies actually have their dear cameras up in the
field so we can actually watch bows or leave my property.
He hits up the field and we can watch him
all the way over to he leaves dairfield and he
lands out his Grandma Rufs and so then she messages
me on Facebook and it's like he's here, so there's

(01:04:28):
no lack of keeping up with him. You know, we
keep track of him.

Speaker 1 (01:04:32):
Yeah, and based on what I know about you know,
from what we're going to talk about, this hardly feels
like the biggest inconvenience for you to deal with.

Speaker 9 (01:04:41):
Yes, kind just a part of my normal day. We're
chilling with it.

Speaker 1 (01:04:46):
Yeah, cause you've had a pretty crazy life.

Speaker 9 (01:04:50):
Yeah, it's been quite interesting.

Speaker 1 (01:04:51):
Yeah, we'll get to the big thing. But you've got
three kids. How old were you when you had your
first kid.

Speaker 9 (01:04:57):
I was sixteen when I I had my oldest. How
hard Actually, he'll be twenty three on the twentieth of
this time.

Speaker 1 (01:05:06):
Wow, how hard was that to have a kid at sixteen?

Speaker 9 (01:05:09):
It is extremely hard. It was more so I didn't
want to let him down because I don't know, I
was really determined and it was terrifying. But I was
so determined to give him such a normal life that
I just went into a mode of like focus and
I went to work. I had my own place when

(01:05:31):
I was like seventeen, and I just kind of rocked
it out. And I hope to say I gave them
the best childhood and as much normal as I could
possibly give him. So it was scary, but it was
almost felt normal to my innosense because I you know,
I raised my little sister and so I don't know,
it kind of was okay.

Speaker 1 (01:05:51):
And then how how old were you even had your
second kid? I was.

Speaker 9 (01:05:56):
When I had him, and that was that was interesting.
Having him was probably, but the moment I felt like
I let somebody down more in my life so than ever,
because I'll be real honest guys. Okay, So I was
with my oldest son's dad for like six years.

Speaker 1 (01:06:18):
I was young.

Speaker 9 (01:06:18):
Whatever we broke up. I had the first one night
stand in my life. And I got pregnant, and I
got pregnant with my middle son, and so when I
had this little boy, you look at this clider and
you're like, how do I give him answers? Because you can't.
And so my middle son really doesn't know his father.
I really didn't know his father much. I mean, I

(01:06:41):
know his name, he's met him like twice, but really
has no relationship with them.

Speaker 1 (01:06:47):
So wow.

Speaker 9 (01:06:49):
And then yeah, and then when I was twenty, I
decided it's going to be a good idea to start
actually dating, like my childhood best friend and we wound
up getting married and I had my daughter when I
was twenty one, and that girl is a handful. She's eighteen,

(01:07:12):
and my goodness, it's been a trip since we had
the girl.

Speaker 1 (01:07:17):
Yeah, she how much of is she like you?

Speaker 9 (01:07:20):
She's identicalt to me. I mean, the world has they've
got they need to look out for that one. She
runs the show and she's so strong minded and she
she has no fear in this world. She's not afraid
to take on anything, and it's kind of amazing to
watch it.

Speaker 1 (01:07:40):
Yeah, you said you raised your sister. Why did you
have to raise your sister because our mom sucks?

Speaker 9 (01:07:50):
No, After we were attacked, my mom just kind of
went south and instead of looking at it, like I
just said to mine, hire family. I don't know what
happened in her mind, but she just kind of quit
caring for us kids. And when I was like nine,

(01:08:10):
my mom kind of loaded us up and left us
in California and from there I just started raising my
little sister and that's what I did.

Speaker 1 (01:08:20):
So you had you had a there was a home
invasion when you were a kid. How old were you
when that happened?

Speaker 9 (01:08:24):
I was two almost three, So I was young.

Speaker 1 (01:08:29):
Do you have vivid memories of that or is it
just from accounts that people have shared with you.

Speaker 9 (01:08:35):
I I have pretty good memory of it. Some are
you know, accounts for my mom and my sisters. But
I do remember parts of it very dead league because
I don't know if I focused on it and it
just replayed in my mind. I don't know, but there's
parts of it that are very clear to me.

Speaker 1 (01:08:57):
Tell us what happened in the home invasion? You were
two years old, Tell that's what happened.

Speaker 9 (01:09:01):
So we had just moved to Parry, Oklahoma. We'd been
living in a shilar for like a week, and we're
all in there. I can remember playing with my sisters
in the kitchen area and my mom was cooking fried
chicken for lunch, and then just like haling so quick,

(01:09:24):
there was like this man in our living room and
the screaming up my mom, Like he kicked in our
back door and like and he was just there and
he's telling my mom to like, I need your money,
give me all your money, and my mom's like, I
don't have any money, and so he grabbed like this

(01:09:46):
pairing knife my mom was using, and like he screamed
at her again like give me the money, and then
just like he didn't even give her a chance to answer,
Like he cut my mom's throat the so my mom
couldn't really scream anymore. But like she's trying to fight him,

(01:10:07):
and he's like stabbing her all like stabbed her so
many times on the top of the head, and like
she was trying to like fight him off, so he
started like flashing out her arms. He almost cut her
whole right hand completely off. Her left hand was only
about verst attached by the prey. It was all sending.

(01:10:33):
But then he he's like telling her I really want
like I need everything, your money, whatever you've got. Like
so my mom couldn't really answer. So it grabs the
second sister because there's four of us, so grabs Candy

(01:10:54):
is her name, and uh, his throws are on the ground,
and he like he tells my mom, I told you
I need your money. And so he takes the pary
knife and he stabs it up my sister's nose and
it cuts her optic nerves and so it blinded her,

(01:11:16):
and then he stabbed her a couple more times in
the shoulders. But my mom jumped on top and then
my oldest sister jumped on top and he kind of
pushes them off, and we had our little sister laying
in a crib and he goes over there and he
picks my little sister up out of the crab, and

(01:11:39):
I remember that that's so good. He starts slamming my
little sister into the wall of this trailer and he's
screaming up my mom, I need everything, and she's like,
I need everything. So he takes my little sister up
and he scalped her with that paring knife and then
he stabbed her on the back of the neck. And

(01:12:02):
then my mom seeing me, and she's like, she shoved
me behind the couch, and so how we managed to
get back to the kitchen. But he he's got to
hold the Amber at this point because he kind of
just dropped Sadie on the floor. Sadie's the youngest, Amber
is the oldest, and so he's got a hold of

(01:12:25):
Amber and the hot grease up. My mom was frying
the chicken in. He holds Amber down and he pours
all that hot grease all over her. It's all on
her chest, it's all on her head. He put this
pan back on the stove. He filled it up with

(01:12:47):
grease again, so I got to come out and I'm
gonna try to save Amber, but he knocked us down
again and the grease heat it up more, and he
poured it on her again, and the splashed all onto
my back and it got Amber a lot more than
he started, just stabbing Amber in me. And I don't

(01:13:13):
know how my mom did it. I don't know how
my mom gathered all of us up, but like, I
just remember we were outside and my mom's running and
candies running, and my mom's got a hold of Amber
and Sadie and I'm running and we get to our

(01:13:34):
neighbor's house but didn't realize Amber's gone, and I'm like,
where's Amber? But my mom was so bloody and Amber
was so burnt that Amber had slid out of my
mom's arms and she had actually fallen on those like
tall raal things on the ground, and it was cold,

(01:13:56):
so Amber kind of froze to them because she's so
burnt and the cold. But our neighbor went over there
and held him at gunpoint until all the cops showed up,
and then there was a real stand off at the trailer.

(01:14:16):
They were trying to get him out, but he wasn't
coming out. They threw a chair, gas and everything, and
he lined up an officer his name was officer of
Bosweld with the knife, and so they shot him kind
of like right in the growing area and they killed

(01:14:37):
him right there in our living room, and life by
it landed. Everybody was taken to different places. It felt
like after that everything was just like so quick, and
the burning units all that went by so quick. But

(01:14:59):
it was we didn't like Amber was in the burning
it for months, and my mom was in the hospital
for a long time, like, but it all seemed like
everything went back to normal real quick, and we were
them just out in my grandpa's farm and Ada, my
dad was back and it was just like a normal

(01:15:24):
life for a moment until like my mom and dad
were blaming each other for everything that had happened because
you know, none of us are okay. You know, Candy
is blind now, me and Embor are burnt. You know,
say these hair is not growing right, you know, and

(01:15:46):
it's just like we became a huge problem in their
life and they just started fighting and arguing, and my
parents got divorced when I was like six and from there,
my mom just started bes and it just became a

(01:16:10):
part of our life. She thought it'd be a good
idea to start being her daughter's myth, and so all
of us girls became methadicts. I was a full gown
methadic for time I was twelve. I didn't even understand
what it was because my mom had been putting dope
in these Benadryl capsules, and like we were living in

(01:16:41):
my mom pulls up in a U haul that we
were going to go to California and go stay with
my uncle's friend and try to start a new life.
She was going to go to rehab. But we get
there and my mom my mom person.

Speaker 1 (01:17:07):
Guys, was she a horrible person before all that? First
of all, I am sorry that that is. That's an
intense story. Even one part of that is an intense story,
and there's obviously multiple layers to it, and for you
to have to witness at a young age just wild too.
Was your mom a horrible person before any of that happened? I?

Speaker 9 (01:17:31):
No, No, she was normal. My mom was a good
mom for a moment in life.

Speaker 1 (01:17:37):
My mom.

Speaker 9 (01:17:39):
Was doing everything right. When that man came into that house,
he took everything from my mother, and it killed my
mom in a sense because like even the other day, guys,
like on Thanksgiving, my mom shows up with a point
in her bag, like what are you doing? You've got

(01:18:01):
grandkids here, your kids are here, Like it has not
stopped for her that day. We'll never leave her head.
And I don't understand why.

Speaker 1 (01:18:15):
Yeah, she's just medicating the problem, right.

Speaker 9 (01:18:20):
All it's done has made it so much worse. The
things that happened after that day in our lives, I
felt were so much worse than that day. Like your
own mom shouldn't leave you abandoned in California to run
through the the perverts of that state, Like she shouldn't

(01:18:43):
do those things. What you did to us girls were
way more traumatizing than that day, I'm telling you. And
I don't know how she did it.

Speaker 1 (01:18:54):
How did you get away from California.

Speaker 9 (01:18:59):
We we became a wards of the state of California,
and they contacted my grandfather, my grandfather, and my grandfather
was able to get us back to Oklahoma, and that's
how we got back to Oklahoma. But we were still

(01:19:20):
like they transferred us from the state of California to
become wards of the state of Oklahoma. Like ultimately all
of us aged out of like DHS causey because like
my mom never got us back. Because after like we

(01:19:40):
were all in California together for like a few weeks
and then like out of nowhere, we're like me and
Sadie are looking for my mom and Amber and Candy,
and we're like where are they because we were sleeping
under these parking garages they're in California, and we're like,
where's the bags, where's the body at? And like it's

(01:20:00):
felt like a week looking for my mom and sisters
and never found him. So we just kind of photoground
on the streets for like two years before we got
picked up that I had him put into the system
in California, and so like there was this old dude

(01:20:22):
name we called him Papa Drugs me and my little sister.
He looked out for us, like made sure we had
our dollar every day because you get these like huge,
like New York style sizes of pizza in like one
size of those were kicks full all day and they
were only like a book and we're like heck yeah,
So like that old man made sure me and my

(01:20:43):
little sister a every day and there was a woman
I remember, her name was Jewel was what we called her.
Like she always checked in on me and my little
sister every night to make sure we were good. And
it's just like I never felt unsafe sleeping on the
streets in California, even at just nine, ten and eleven

(01:21:04):
years old. I was always just like it almost felt
normal to me. It was weird and like I was
never afraid of it, and I was more afraid when
the States try to put us with our dad. We
didn't even know. We're like, no, that's not going to work.
We don't know this dude, like, send us back to California.

Speaker 1 (01:21:26):
Yeah, how's your sisters now?

Speaker 9 (01:21:32):
My sisters are awesome sort of. So Candy went a
little crazy and got herself. She spent five years in
prison and she's she's been out of prison now for
ten months actually, and she is doing so amazing for herself.

(01:21:53):
And she my sister Candy right now is no. She's
my inspiration to get myself together because I kind of
fell off for a little bit myself. I've kicked my ause.
But she's doing great. My little sister Sadie, she's doing amazing.

(01:22:13):
She kind of does her own thing. She's still down
in she cooed Oklahoma, and uh, our oldest sister Amber.
She's kind of a hot mess express right now, but
we love her well, We're gonna get We're gonna get
her back to herself soon.

Speaker 1 (01:22:31):
Yeah, Paul, listen, your story is insane and intense, and
I'm sorry that happens to happen to you. And just
know that you are loved and and thank you for
sharing your story with us. And uh, I wish we
had more time to talk to you. And here's some
other things, but we've run out of time.

Speaker 9 (01:22:49):
No problem, no problem, But she just got to the
guide those worst things in life. We can't let crap
like this pull us back. I wish people would just
know that they're better than the people that got a
whole top moment.

Speaker 1 (01:23:06):
Yeah, that's yeah. And to go full circle, that's why
I forget the Facebook page, but that your dog has
a Facebook page, like may man, look at this dog
living the best life.

Speaker 9 (01:23:15):
Absolutely like that's real and that's like I'm trying to
rock it out and just like I'm not gonna let
huh what is killing me today?

Speaker 1 (01:23:24):
Jor let's hear the dog's Facebook page again.

Speaker 9 (01:23:28):
Oh the Adventures of Bowser right on.

Speaker 1 (01:23:32):
Paula, thank you so much, and I hope you have
a fantastic holiday very day you too. See you later,
ah By. Our listeners are awesome. We're gonna take a
break and we'll be back to Tulsa's Morning Show.

Speaker 8 (01:23:44):
Is coming right back to the Big Man Morning Show,
Tulsa's rock station.

Speaker 1 (01:24:02):
Good morning, It's the big Nd Morning Show nine six
K M O D. You can also text emms and
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I don't know if questioning the story is accurate, but

(01:24:22):
have questions about the story that she shared, and there
are countless articles online about it. I'm not going to
provide them all for you do your own research. And
people saying, you know, don't let you know that we
should have the Cowboy ranch and should have killed the guy,
and OK, this guy that did this wasn't ok.

Speaker 7 (01:24:45):
Right he was a local right. Apparently we didn't. She
didn't mention that part of the story. But when I
was talking to her, he had left a mental hospital, yes,
had escaped, and that's when he he Walker was like
Miles miles miles and then finally stumbled across their place

(01:25:05):
and that's when it all went down.

Speaker 1 (01:25:08):
Yeah. He was apparently living in like a hotel and
had been eating candy bars. I don't know why this
is news, but eating candy bars and watching religious television programming. Okay,
what kind of candy bars though? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:25:25):
I mean.

Speaker 1 (01:25:27):
Well, I mean probably watching mccaus those things to making
stupid for real, for real something. I didn't know he escaped.

Speaker 7 (01:25:36):
I thought he was released from a mental Either way,
he was not mentally stable at all whatsoever. The text
came in saying that it was the dealer that did it,
you know, did the home invasion, and not not not
the case man.

Speaker 1 (01:25:51):
Not that that's not accurate. Uh. And he was released
in December, and this incident happened in March of that year. Yeah,
so he'd been out for a little while. Yes, so
he was deemed okay, had an episode but for a
walk and attack the entire family. Yeah. Yeah, wild story, man, Yeah,

(01:26:14):
wild story. And sounds like her mom didn't handle it right.
But it's weird to find it's hard to find the
blueprint of how to handle after an incident like that. Yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:26:27):
Absolutely, I am not surprised at all that that was
the path that mom went down after such a traumatic
traumatic event.

Speaker 1 (01:26:40):
Just having somebody break into your home, even if you're
not there, is violating in a way that's hard to
comprehend unless it's happened to you. I had somebody breaking
when I lived in Okoma City. Somebody broke into my
home there. I had to go to therapy after it
messed me up. I couldn't sleep. Yeah, I felt like
I had to be on guard. I felt like it
was gonna happen again. Yeah, every little twitch, I was like, here,

(01:27:04):
they like it's happening.

Speaker 9 (01:27:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:27:07):
I've never had my house broken into. I've had my
car broken into and my stereo stolen. And I felt
violated after that because that's your own personal space and
you think you do everything right, you lock all the doors,
you roll up the windows, whatever, and people still find
a way to beat deech bags.

Speaker 1 (01:27:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:27:23):
Then the trauma of watching that happen to her children
and not being able to protect them.

Speaker 1 (01:27:30):
I mean, yeah, that's without saying right, That's what I'm saying. Like,
just breaking it, like a home breaking is traumatic from
the mother's standpoint, and then to see those horrific things
unfold in front of her. I wish she would have
handled it better, but you know, maybe she didn't have resources.
Yeah or no, how if you've ever tried to navigate

(01:27:54):
any sort of mental help, it ain't any easy. No,
And I can't imagine in the year that that happened
it was easier. No, no, no, no, no. She probably
was on the verge of being institutionalized, because that's how
they handled it, right, yeah, not too far removed that
when you had a special needs kid, they just shipped

(01:28:16):
them up state, right right. Mom's acting hysterical, she's crazy.
Get out of here. Yeah, send the kids off to
the state. She's up in a hospital now, Yeah, not
uncommon a kid born with Down syndrome. They would just
put them out in the pasture, so to speak. It's wild.
So I can only imagine she didn't want to say
too much. Yeah, but yeah, there's definitely some that is

(01:28:41):
a insanely crazy story. It's stories like that that remind
me that it could be a lot worse. Right when
you think, you know, oh man, today's horrible. You know,
I woke up this morning stepped in a puddle of
dog piss, you know, and it just ruined your whole
day from there, or you know, even just hardships growing up.

Speaker 7 (01:29:00):
Yeah, the president pardoned his son, right exactly. Well, at
least somebody didn't break into your house and stab you
and your entire family and then pour hot grace on
him and continue stabbing.

Speaker 1 (01:29:12):
Yeah, good lord. Yeah, that's why I'm glad she led
with the dog story, which we knew nothing about, No no,
which is fascinating on itself, which shocked. Who's this Bowser?
How can we didn't talk about this before? Gippy hates
that it pisses him off so much that I'll pull
something out of somebody and he'll go I tried. Yeah

(01:29:35):
I got this story. Well you got something else, but
both are equally entertaining. After hearing the story you found
out about, I kind of wanted to just hear the
Bowser story.

Speaker 6 (01:29:45):
Yeah, she's got two Hollywood scripts on her hands.

Speaker 1 (01:29:49):
Well I've seen the first one, that story of a
dog getting out right right, having his way, Yeah, driving
golf carts, going to the Dollar General to get bone right.
All right, we gotta take a break and we'll be back.

Speaker 8 (01:30:04):
You're listening to the Big Mad Morning Show. This is
Tulsa's Morning Show ninety seven KMOD.

Speaker 1 (01:30:22):
Good morning, It's the Big Mad Morning Show. Nine one,
eight four six O KMOD coming up, Jeff Fins, let's
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Speaker 6 (01:31:01):
The Denver Broncos are set to host the Cleveland Browns
on Monday Night football at Empower Field at Mile High.
The Broncos have won back to back games and currently
sit third in the AFC West at seven and five.
Rookie qb Bo Nicks is completing sixty four point nine
percent of his passes for two thousand, five hundred forty
eight yards, sixteen touchdowns and six interceptions this season. The

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dual threat option is also rushed for three hundred yards
and four scores. The Broncos rink second in the NFL
with sixteen point eight points per game.

Speaker 2 (01:31:35):
Allowed.

Speaker 6 (01:31:36):
Cleveland is coming off a bye week and sits last
in the AFC North at three and eight. Jameis Winston
is filled in as the team's starting quarterback and is
thrown for one two hundred and sixty six yards, seven touchdowns,
and four picks in nine games. The Browns rank thirtieth
in the NFL with sixteen point nine points scored per game.

(01:31:58):
The Broncos won the last head to head meta twenty
nine to twelve in Week twelve.

Speaker 2 (01:32:01):
Of last season.

Speaker 6 (01:32:04):
The Colts are still alive in the playoff race following
a twenty five to twenty four comeback win over the
Patriots from Foxborough. Anthony Richardson tossed a three yard touchdown
pass to Alec Pearce with twelve seconds left and used
his legs to score the game winning two point conversion.
Richardson also ran in for a touchdown while ending with
just one hundred and nine passing yards. India is now

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six and seven. Drake May threw for two hundred and
thirty eight yards, one touchdown and a pick as New
England has lost three straight to fall to three and ten.
Ramandre Stevenson ran for seventy three yards and Antonio Gibson
had sixty two rushing yards and score in defeat. West
Virginia Football is moving on from mits head coach. The

(01:32:47):
team announced on Sunday that Neil Brown has been fired.
His departure comes on the heels of a fifty two
to fifteen loss to Texas Tech in the Mountaineer's regular
season finale. ESPN reports Brown will owed nearly ten million
dollars for the final three years of his contract. Brown
was extended after winning nine games last season and went
thirty seven and thirty five in his career with West Virginia.

(01:33:12):
Pro Football Hall of Famer Randy Moss revealed Sunday he
was battling an illness as he addressed why he was
wearing glasses. The former Minnesota Vikings and New England Patriots
star wide receiver didn't disclose specifically what he was dealing with. Says,
I just wanted to let the viewers know that me
and my wife and family are battling something internally. I

(01:33:32):
have some great doctors around me, said on ESPN's Sunday
NFL Countdown. I couldn't miss the show. I wanted to
be here with you guys. I feel great, but if
you see me with these Michigan Turnover glasses that I
have on, it's not being disrespectful because I'm on television.
It's because I'm battling something.

Speaker 1 (01:33:48):
I don't know what that could be. Did he wear
glasses before?

Speaker 2 (01:33:52):
No, not on camera.

Speaker 1 (01:33:54):
Why would you need to draw attention to it? If
it I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:34:00):
I don't know either.

Speaker 6 (01:34:03):
It's clearly it's something that is affecting his eyesighter. Maybe
it's making his eye sensitive, but he Moss encouraged his
male followers to get regular checkups and their blood work done.
In a video posted on his Instagram, he says, we'll
work through it. Moss was able to work through the
illness and joined his ESPN co hosts Mike Greenberg, Rex Ryan,

(01:34:26):
Alex Smith, and Teddy Brushy Uh. He said. Moss is
going to turn forty eight in February. He was a
six time pro bowler and four time All Pro in
the NFL.

Speaker 1 (01:34:35):
The only I'm just looking at a list of things
that would cause you to suddenly have to start wearing glasses.
Macular degeneration is a thing. It happens with old age,
But that doesn't feel like that's a that shouldn't be
like an alarming thing. I mean, right, he probably has
aged a little quicker than other people. But the only
one on here that would I could see would be
there's two either a stroke okay or multiple sclerosis okay.

(01:35:01):
That would be the only two that are on this list.
Do you think you would mention that though, if any
one of those, because those are two major major deals.
I never understand when athletes, our celebrities do this. James
Vanderbeek Resent was like, well, I wanted to come out
before other people, and now he's doing interviews and stuff
and you're like, well, did you not want to or
do you want to?

Speaker 6 (01:35:20):
Right?

Speaker 1 (01:35:21):
And hey, I'm not going to tell you, but I
may miss but I can't tell. I mean, I get it,
but maybe just don't say anything at all.

Speaker 6 (01:35:31):
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Cowboys are coming off a twenty seven to twenty win
over the New York Giants on Thanksgiving. Ceedee Lamb departed
that game early due to injury and did not return,

(01:35:52):
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totaled seventy nine catches for eight hundred and eighty yards
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Speaker 1 (01:37:08):
Join us in the studio now. Is Jeff Hensley of
Hensley Associates. Good morning, Jeff, Hey, good morning, and Jeff's
here to answer your question about divorce and custody and
guardianship and some of those things that rear their head
after the holiday first holiday of this holiday season. And
any question you have is not too tough for him
when it comes to the family law situation, So feel
free to ask it nine one, eight four to six,

(01:37:28):
Oh KMOD, text bmms and whatever that question is to
eight two nine four to five or email show at
kmod dot com. This one says, good morning. A close
friend found out last week her husband of twelve years
is having an affair. He's leaving the marriage to be
with the other woman. The truck he drives daily is
in his wife's name. She makes the payments and he
can't afford to. Can she have the truck toad after

(01:37:52):
he parks it for work? Also, she makes substantially more
money than he does. Is he is he owed fifty
percent of her four oh one k for the last
twelve years? If so, if she files under infidelity, would
that change?

Speaker 12 (01:38:07):
So there's a lot of moving parts there, So let's
kind of break it down. So let's talk about the
infidelity first. So in the state of Oklahoma, there are
eleven or twelve different claims you can make to get divorced.
So you know, ninety nine point nine percent of people
file under incompatibility, right because incompatibility is known as a
no fault divorce. In other words, there's no burden of
proof to show to the cord as to why you

(01:38:28):
should get divorced, all right, So ninety nine percent point
nine percent of people do it, all right. Then you've
got this one point one percent, all right, that wants
to file in a particular way. So you know, one
is infidelity, all right, or adultery al right. The other
one would be you know, and I'm not going to
listen all eleven because I don't know them all memorized,
but you know, things like impotence or extreme mental cruelty

(01:38:53):
or abandonment or things like this. There's you know, there's
an eleven different ways or claims to make right. If
you go down the road of infidelity slash adultree, the
thing is is that you now have given yourself a
burden of proof that you have to show to the
court that that particular thing happened, and because of it,
you should get divorced. Now, you don't get a leg

(01:39:14):
up on everything else. She don't get more, you don't
win more, You don't receive more than marital estate or
any of that, just because you prove there's infidelity. All
you're proving is is that you're entitled to a divorce.

Speaker 1 (01:39:24):
There's no benefit, no infidelity.

Speaker 10 (01:39:26):
No, there's not.

Speaker 12 (01:39:27):
So I will tell you, in almost twenty years of practice,
all right, I can't believe I can say that now
and almost twenty years of practice, I have filed infidelity twice,
all right. And the only reason I filed them were
because one was I represented the wife and the husband
was a youth minister in Bartlesville, and so she wanted
to embarrass him. And even though I tried to talk

(01:39:49):
her out of it, she was adamant we did it.
Life went on and then there was another issue that
we filed for that now simply because that guy had
a lot of issues with sleeping with the babysitters, but
that was a whole nother thing. So with that being said,
it doesn't get you a leg up. All right, there's
not worth the I don't think it is.

Speaker 10 (01:40:09):
I mean not really.

Speaker 12 (01:40:10):
I mean not really because the other side isn't going
to agree in your final decree that your claim of
infidelity was you know, was correct, because it's embarrassing for him, right,
So you know, again, it's not worth it. If you
want to give me a call, we'll do it. I mean, obviously,
if that's what you like, But there's a burden of proof.
Let's not waste the time and let's just get you

(01:40:32):
divorced and life moved on.

Speaker 1 (01:40:33):
What about the fifty percent of her four oh one
k of the last twelve years?

Speaker 6 (01:40:37):
Let's he had a question, I think, so, yeah, what
if there's like a prenup involved like that says you know,
if you cheat?

Speaker 10 (01:40:44):
So all that does all such?

Speaker 12 (01:40:46):
Well, right, all that does is set forth. You know,
if you do this, then this will happen. So it's
an if then statement. So if if if you and
I know a lot of celebrities and stuff do this
because or at least we hear about them doing that.
You know, if you cheat then then you only get
this amount, So that just sets forth if you cheat,
then this is what you get. It doesn't mean that

(01:41:06):
you can't file under incompatibility. You can file under either
one technically at that point if one some person did cheat.
But in a pren up, when it says that, that's
just saying if you do this, then this is all
you're going to get. So as far as a leg up,
I mean, a prenup is a leg up in a
certain way, simply because you're setting forth what things will

(01:41:27):
happen if you two do get divorced, who gets what?
Breaking it apart that kind of thing, and it overtakes
any of the other stuff.

Speaker 6 (01:41:35):
Does one party assume that they're going to be felt
sorry for by a judge if they get cheated on?

Speaker 10 (01:41:42):
I think sometimes they do, and I think sometimes they do.
But I mean, here's the thing.

Speaker 12 (01:41:47):
First of all, you know, I read an interesting article
this weekend in one of the Okahoman newspapers and about
how adultree is still on the books in the state
of Oklahoma as a crime.

Speaker 10 (01:41:58):
Okay, now is it ever pross secuted?

Speaker 1 (01:42:00):
Never?

Speaker 12 (01:42:01):
Why because you'd have to prosecute about seventy five percent
of the state, including prosecutors, including attorneys, including judges, including everybody. Right,
there's there's not one area of the of of any
type of business that anybody does. I'm sure there's radio
people that you know have done all this.

Speaker 10 (01:42:19):
No one, it's not.

Speaker 12 (01:42:20):
It's not prosecuted because it's a waste of time. No
one prosecutes it because it's wisome. Is it still in
the books, Yes, but I mean there's still things on
the books, like you know, you can't eat ice cream
on a Sunday while walking across the street from a
you know, a bank or whatever it is. I mean,
there's all weird sorts of studs in every state. So
that's kind of where the infidelity thing. As far as

(01:42:41):
a fifty percent, yeah, I mean any increase from the
dative marriage to the dative separation or the dates you file,
he'd be entitled a half of that period. That's Oklahoma law, regardless, regardless,
it doesn't matter, Yeah, it doesn't. He doesn't get less
just because he cheated. What about the truck that's in
her name, Well, that's when you get a little more murky.
I mean, it's still a marital asset, all right, and
could she technically before now, this is all before filing,

(01:43:04):
all right, because once the file, once you file, there's
something called an automatic temporary injunction and ATI that goes
into place that says, hey, these are the things you
can and can't do. Okay, you can't go changing beneficiaries
on life insurance policies. You can't go kicking people off
insurance policies. You can't you know, you can't do this,
you can't do that. It's a list of things you
can and can't do. And so then you get into

(01:43:24):
this area of well, he's driving the car that she's
paying for, Well, until once it's filed, once you file
for divorce, until it's dealt with in a decree or
temporary order, all right, everything has to stay status quo,
which means he'll keep the truck and she'll make the
payments until there's a temporary order that says otherwise or
a final decree that says otherwise. Now, prior to the filing,

(01:43:45):
she can kind of do what she wants, all right.
If you want to go down that road, all right
and have it towed back or whatever it may be.
I mean, I've seen people do that. I don't suggest
that simply because if you want things to go a
little smoother, you can always get more flies with honey
than you can with vinegar. Now, if you want to
pour kerosene on top of this, fine, go for it.

(01:44:06):
I don't think it's the wisest thing to do. I
get your pissed off and you're angry, and you're frustrated
and all these other things, but remember it's a process,
and you want the process to go as smoothly as possible,
and that means you want to be reasonable and you
want to get this thing done. All right, I always
tell people the amount of time and money spent on
a divorce or or paternity case is inherently controlled by

(01:44:26):
the parties.

Speaker 10 (01:44:27):
And here's why. A.

Speaker 12 (01:44:28):
All right, the more reasonable and respectful you guys are
with each other, the less time and the less money
it takes.

Speaker 10 (01:44:33):
The more hateful, contentious, stupid, ridiculous and.

Speaker 12 (01:44:35):
Pain in the ash you are with each other, then
more time, the more money they are, more emotions, the
more contempts, all these things, because if you choose to
be stupid and angry, it's going to cost more time
and more money.

Speaker 10 (01:44:48):
If you want to be reasonable and make a business
decision and try and get these things done.

Speaker 1 (01:44:52):
It's a lot quicker playing Devil's Advocate with what you're
saying there, Am I supposed to just roll over and
give her everything? Or or she wants no?

Speaker 10 (01:45:00):
And I'm not saying rollover.

Speaker 12 (01:45:01):
I'm merely saying, control your emotions, make good decisions, make
good financial decisions, and make decisions for you and for
your family that are smart in the sense of what
can I do that is best to try and get
this thing over with so that my family and I
can move on. No, we're not going to roll over ever,

(01:45:22):
not going to happen all right.

Speaker 10 (01:45:24):
I'm not saying that.

Speaker 12 (01:45:24):
I'm merely saying, make good decisions so that we can
get this done quickly, so that you can move on
with your life and not have to dwell and deal
with the other side, especially now that they've got a
new person you don't want to mess with that. Let's
get you done and overwist so you can move on
with your life and sign somebody that makes you happy
and who's going to be good for you.

Speaker 1 (01:45:43):
Jeff Finsley from Hinsley Associates is here. If you have
a question about divorce, custody, guardianship, name, changes, any of
those things, he can answer them nine one, eight four
to six. So KMOD, text BMMS and whatever that question
is to eight two nine four five or email show
at kmod dot com. This one says my daughter and
son in law got in trouble back in March and
both went to jail. I'm the grandma. I got temporary

(01:46:05):
guardianship because child Welfare requested it. When I went to
court for the guardianship, the judge was kind of threw
off cause the parents were already home and she didn't
understand why they wanted me to have guardianship. Anyway, we
went back to court in October and they were given
full custody. But through this world, this whole ordeal, child

(01:46:28):
Welfare contacted my eldest granddaughters supposedly to be the dad.
Now he's trying to get custody of her, but they
haven't even done a DNA test yet, and we don't
even know if he's the father. She turned three in August.
He hasn't even tried to see her contact her. We
really need help on this. They only gave her two

(01:46:49):
weeks to get an attorney. Does he have any rights
to her? If the DNA does come back as the father,
she doesn't even know him. My husband and I are
the only grandparents they have.

Speaker 12 (01:47:00):
So again, lots of moving parts, but I think the
meat and potatoes of the question is is dealing with
this this father, this DNA, this DNA thing. So you know,
if the DNA comes back that he is the father
of these children, all right, he's going to be if
there's a court thing going on, court battle going on,
all right, he will be adjudicated the legal father of
these children. Now, adjudication is nothing more than a fancy

(01:47:23):
legal jargon that says you'll be found by a judge
on a piece of paper to be dad legally dad.
All right, that you've been found to be legally dad,
So will he have some rights at that point?

Speaker 10 (01:47:33):
Absolutely? Now is the judgment.

Speaker 12 (01:47:36):
Will the judge throw the kids into the deep end
of the pool and say, here, go see this man
who you have no idea who he is and nothing
about him. The answer is no, all right, there obviously
is going to have to be And I don't know
how these kids are.

Speaker 1 (01:47:48):
They sound old is what they said.

Speaker 12 (01:47:50):
Where they said older granddaughter. Okay, so I wasn't sure
get a little lost in there. But let's let's assume
that they're a little older, and I'll talk about little
younger both either way, all right, Neither kid at any
age is going to be thrown in the deep into
the pool. There's going to be some sort of reconciliation
therapy or something that goes on between kids and dad
so that kids so that Dad can be brought into

(01:48:12):
those kids' life very gently, so that they know who
he is and they get used to him, and they
get to know him and all these kind of things
long before he gets any kind of custody or overnights
or any of that kind of stuff. I mean, they're
not going to just throw the kids at the deep
into the pool. It's just not going to happen.

Speaker 10 (01:48:27):
Now.

Speaker 12 (01:48:27):
If this is somebody they knew, it'd be a different story.
But this is somebody they have no idea who he is.
The judge cannot and will not just dump them into
the deep end of the pool. There will be some
sort of therapy that goes on to be able to
slowly bring Dad into the situation so that the kids
are not shell shocked.

Speaker 1 (01:48:44):
Being adjudicated as the father is not the same as
getting custody.

Speaker 10 (01:48:47):
Correct.

Speaker 12 (01:48:47):
That just means you've been found to be legally dad,
which means you can at that point have the same
rights as any other father who has a kid during marriage,
all right, But it doesn't mean you get him automatically
and instantaneously, all right. I know that we are a
society of instant gratification, but that is not how it
works in the legal system.

Speaker 10 (01:49:07):
Sometimes there are processesn't I.

Speaker 12 (01:49:09):
I'm glad we kind of got to talk about this
because the legal system as a general whole is a process,
all right, all of it, from start to finish.

Speaker 10 (01:49:17):
It's an entire process.

Speaker 12 (01:49:18):
And so this is a process that we're talking about
that he will have to go through before he gets
any kind of overnights or alone time with these kids.

Speaker 1 (01:49:26):
Jeff Finsley's here from Hensley in Associates, BMMS and whatever
your question is to phone number eight two nine four five.
That's how you texted. Email show at kmod dot com.
Here's a couple of texts that have come in the
last few minutes. Do I have to give my kids
my husband's last name if he's not the dad? And
said he does not want the kids to have it.

Speaker 12 (01:49:48):
Okay, So I'm wondering if the kids are born yet,
let's go it added both ways A. So first A
would be, let's get let's assume the kids are not
born yet. Let's say they're twins or in vitro whatever,
and kids aren't born yet. Do you have to give
him the last name? If dad signs a denial, all right?
If husband signs a denial at the birth, all right,

(01:50:09):
and she wants to put somebody else the real dad's
last name on there, yeah, absolutely she can do that.

Speaker 10 (01:50:14):
But he's gonna have to sign a denial all right.

Speaker 12 (01:50:16):
And then, of course whoever biodad is needs to sign
an acknowledgment.

Speaker 10 (01:50:20):
It's good for two fold reasons.

Speaker 12 (01:50:22):
A that gets those kids legally off husband's checklist. If
you will all right, he will no longer be legally
responsible for them because he's denying that he's the dad.
Then you have somebody who signs an acknowledgment that says, Okay,
I'm willing to take on and first of all, I
am biodad, and second of all, I'm willing to take
on any and all responsibility for these children because I
am the actual real father of these children. So you

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know that's something that's going to need to happen, is
a denial and acknowledgment, and then she can put the
last name on there.

Speaker 1 (01:50:51):
Josh is on the line. He's got a question, Josh,
go ahead, you're on with Jeff Hensley of Hensley and Associates.

Speaker 11 (01:50:56):
Yes, sir, so don't know where to start. We're gonna
start with my nephew though. I've had my nephew for
two years now, and DHS literally just called me one
day and asked me where I lived. We're gonna drop
the kid off at your house. Never met the kid, nothing,

(01:51:18):
but they dropped him off at my house. I've had
him for two years now. I've got I've got permanent custody.
I went through all the legal stuff. My sister was
on drugs and lost custody, lost all printal rights.

Speaker 10 (01:51:35):
So did you adopt the kid? Yeah? Okay, all right,
so what's your question.

Speaker 11 (01:51:41):
I don't really have a question about that. I was
just saying about your statement earlier, saying that the judge
won't just put the kid in a home that they
don't different, don't know people. I understand it was a different.
I understand it was a different.

Speaker 12 (01:51:55):
We're talking apples and oranges, all right, so that your
case is much more common and in the DHS situation,
that can happen that way.

Speaker 10 (01:52:03):
I've seen it happen that way.

Speaker 12 (01:52:04):
What I was talking about before is if you've got
a father that comes in after the fact and files
for paternity rights of some sort. That's the only that's
the only difference I was talking about it. It's apples oranges.

Speaker 11 (01:52:16):
So that's the question I have. My daughter just turned.

Speaker 1 (01:52:22):
This is it.

Speaker 11 (01:52:23):
She just turned fourteen. Ok she lives well, I don't
even know where she lives currently. But I've been paying
child sport on this girl her entire life. I've been
trying to be a part of that girl's life. She's
come and stayed summers with me. We have a verbal
agreement men and her mother that she's supposed to come
down here is a week after school lets out and

(01:52:47):
stays the summer with me, and then I have to
take her back home a week before school starts. Okay, now,
two years ago, actually three years ago, when I had
her down here, when I was taking her back home,
she told me the next year she might want to
stay stay here with me.

Speaker 1 (01:53:10):
Okay.

Speaker 11 (01:53:10):
Now, I've had a lawyer here in Oklahoma tell me
that Oklahoma law is different than Nebraska law. Absolutely, And
with Nebraska law, with her mom allowing her to leave
the state with me, she comes to Oklahoma law. Oklahoma
law overrides Nebraska law because the miner is in the

(01:53:32):
state of Oklahoma, and then she's old enough to make
her own decisions.

Speaker 10 (01:53:36):
That's wrong.

Speaker 12 (01:53:36):
That's completely and utterly wrong. I don't know who told
you that, but it's completely wrong.

Speaker 10 (01:53:40):
And here's why.

Speaker 12 (01:53:41):
Right, there's something called the UCCJAA, the Uniform Child Custody
Jurisdiction Enforcement Actor. Right, it's the act that almost every
single state is adopted in some form or fashion. And
in that act, it defines what the home state of
a child is.

Speaker 1 (01:53:53):
All right.

Speaker 10 (01:53:54):
Home state of a child is where they've resided for
six months or more. All right.

Speaker 12 (01:53:58):
So unless she has been in Oklahoma for six months
or more, Oklahoma does not have any jurisdiction whatsoever on
that child. Is she If she's a main resident in
Nebraska and you want to change it to where she's
living with you in Oklahoma, you're going to have to
fight it. In Nebraska there's nothing we can file here
in Oklahoma unless there's some sort of emergent situation where

(01:54:19):
she's in dire emergency of being harmed or killed or
damaged in some way.

Speaker 11 (01:54:23):
Okay, Okay, So DHS has records where her younger brother
is physically abusive and has has put her in the
hospital because Nebraska state law says that a minor can
watch another minor as as a supervisory role as long

(01:54:43):
as the minor being the supervisor, is able to know
the difference between right and role.

Speaker 12 (01:54:49):
So your first I don't know the first thing about
Nebraska law. I'm not licensed there, never practiced there, and
I've only been there twice in my life. So let
me let me just wrap this up, and I want
to talk to you more about it. To give your
name and number to GIMP and I will call you
this week and we'll talk more about it, because we're
running out of time on the air. But you know,
the main thing is is that an emergency situation has
to exist, and how long ago My first question I

(01:55:11):
guess would be is how long ago did this kid
put her in the hospital.

Speaker 11 (01:55:16):
Well, now it's now, it's been three years.

Speaker 10 (01:55:19):
Okay, So there's no emergent situation. Emergent means immediately.

Speaker 11 (01:55:23):
Now, okay, but but she okay, so so since since
her mom found out that she wanted to stay here
with me, she packed up and moved to Minnesota and
has lost all contact with me. But I'm still paying child.

Speaker 10 (01:55:36):
Support on my daughter and she's been in Minnesota.

Speaker 11 (01:55:39):
Now almost almost two years.

Speaker 12 (01:55:43):
Now, Okay, You're gonna have to fight the battle for
custody and visitation in Minnesota. Oklahoma has no jurisdiction whatsoever,
in any way, shape or form at this particular juncture.

Speaker 10 (01:55:51):
We can't file anything.

Speaker 12 (01:55:52):
Kid doesn't live here, kid has never lived here, or
she has, it's been long removed. You're gonna have to
fight this, INESA. So my suggestion would be is again,
give me your name and number, give me a call.
We will try and locate an address for you, all right,
so that you can contact an attorney in that particular
jurisdiction in Minnesota and fight for your rights to be

(01:56:14):
with her.

Speaker 1 (01:56:15):
Okay, all right, all right, thank you sir. Hand on
the line, so give me to get your info. H
Josh's example is clearly why you need to representation kid.

Speaker 12 (01:56:24):
It's very compon especially when you get into this issue
of jurisdiction issues and which state has control and which
one doesn't and all this other stuff.

Speaker 10 (01:56:32):
I mean, you don't want to do this stuff alone,
guys and gals.

Speaker 1 (01:56:34):
You really don't, or listen to what someone tells you
or a friend's friend tells you. That's why Jeff and
the folks Internet, Jeff and the folks at Hinsley Associates
give you a free consultation when you mentioned KMOD when
you call them nine one eight three nine eight five
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(01:56:55):
agreement is super important. And the folks at Hinsley Associates
can do that. And if you need help in other
areas of the law, you guys can do that.

Speaker 10 (01:57:02):
That's right.

Speaker 12 (01:57:03):
So throw our office at POHUSCA. It's the Shoemake Law Firm,
all right. It's a different name, but it is our office,
all right. We just kept the name when we took
over the office, all right. So give Colin a call
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anything in addition to family law. So if you've got
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(01:57:46):
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Speaker 10 (01:57:57):
We'd love to help you this holiday season.

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Speaker 8 (01:58:08):
Rush four of The Big Mad Morning Show is next
ninety seven five Kmodi.

Speaker 1 (01:58:24):
Good bue Rning, Good, Good morning, First day a big
mad morning show. This is pretty crazy story. I don't
know if this is a sign of the times or
maybe things coming to an end. But there's this music
festival in its second year called the Sick New World Festival.

(01:58:47):
Last year it was huge, System of a Down was
on it, right, it was a it was a big festival.
Corn was on at Deftones, Incubus. It's gonna be a
huge show, right, and it did well. They brought it
back this year and they announced Metallica, Lincoln Park, Queens
of the Stone Age Ministry, three Days, Grace Glass, Jaw Down,

(01:59:11):
Cannibal Corpse, Tomahawk with Sugar, like a lot of bands
and then like AFI three eleven, right and anyway. Tickets
were at a minimum four hundred and seventy three dollars
a ticket. Damn is this a one day festival or correct? Okay?
And you could get vip up to about one eight

(01:59:34):
hundred and seventy three dollars. They have canceled the festival,
oh no, because they did not sell enough tickets. Now,
two of the bands, Lincoln Park and Metallica, were guaranteed
five million dollars, so that's ten million dollars. They would
have had to sell damn near ten thousand of the

(01:59:54):
cheap tickets four hundred and seventy dollars just to meet
the guarantee of those two bands. That's not all the
other things, right that they needed capacity was like sixty
thousand or something like that. Wherever they were doing this.
That that is damn near impossible to do. It's not

(02:00:14):
like if Metallic hadn't toured like in years, right, maybe, right,
But they're a huge band who tour all the time. Yeah,
they've been touring a lot and they had only cleared
a little more than a third of the capacity of
the venue.

Speaker 7 (02:00:32):
Wow, you would think it was such a massive lineup,
they wouldn't have had that problem filling up.

Speaker 1 (02:00:38):
I think people are tired of paying four hundred and
seventy dollars. That's just for a ticket, exactly true. It's
not parking, it's not food, it's not drinks, it's not
traveling to get there. I think people are getting sick
of the ticket prices. And I agree with where your
head is. Hey, all those bands for one price, one
stop shop type of thing, that feels like a special occasion. Yeah,

(02:01:01):
but I think when you do big festivals sixty thousand.
You can't just count on the people like that. No no, no, no,
no no, you gotta sell sixty thousand tickets.

Speaker 7 (02:01:11):
How about you scale back your show a little bit,
you know what I mean? Maybe I didn't even name
half the band exactly. Granted, Metallica, Link of Park. Those
are huge names to get, but they're also butler and expensive, right,
so maybe not have them on your bill? Still, Queens
of the Stone Age, ev in essence, Gozera, a lot
of the other bands were well worth going and go

(02:01:32):
watch oh for that price?

Speaker 6 (02:01:35):
Yeah no, no, no, and only one day too, like
when it's when it's a weekend thing.

Speaker 1 (02:01:42):
If it was a weekend I would say it's worth it. Yeah, right,
it's just one day for the cheap tickets. Yeah. I
don't know. I feel like there's not enough with it.

Speaker 7 (02:01:57):
How do you even how does this even work with
that many bands on the bill? Right, everybody goes out,
sings one song and it's a one day best That's
where I'm getting. It's a one day festival.

Speaker 1 (02:02:09):
You are making a mistake of thinking you get to
see all the bands, right, You don't. They probably have
will have multiple stages, right, going on at the same
time you want to go see Gogierra, you you probably
might not get to see three to eleven, right, or
you might not see my Suga right. So it just

(02:02:30):
because all those bands are playing, don't mean you're going
to see him, right, And you'll have.

Speaker 6 (02:02:34):
To sell how many you said, sixty thousand tickets?

Speaker 1 (02:02:36):
Sixty's capacity? Yeah, ten thousand just to clear the guarantees
of two of the bands that include security, venue, rental, food, water, prosy, insurance,
all those other things.

Speaker 6 (02:02:46):
And you're going to be racing from stage to stage.

Speaker 2 (02:02:49):
Oh you get a good seat. Yeah, it wouldn't be fun.

Speaker 1 (02:02:53):
Yeah. I don't even know. I don't know how much
Coachella is. Oh yeah, well Coachella is three days, so
twenty twenty five passes, just festival passes. Okay, so one weekend,

(02:03:14):
it's about six hundred dollars for the weekend for the weekend, yeah, Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Yeah,
which okay. And there's a lot of bands that play,
oh yeah, particular festival. Yeah.

Speaker 6 (02:03:30):
And a lot of celebrities even attend to Coachella, not
even just cares but for something with them. No, but
for some people that is reason to go, like just
to see celebrities.

Speaker 1 (02:03:44):
No, you you, That doesn't mean you'll see them. True,
they're not on display. They have a whole other section, right, Yeah,
if that's your thing. Coachella and the bands that play
that I go through. Six hundred dollars is not that's nothing.
I mean the Go Gos are on here, dude. Yeah,

(02:04:05):
Charlie XCX, that so far as the only name I recognize.
Three six six Mafia, I get down with that. Yeah,
I'm looking at Okay, so that's Friday. But I mean
you can't go wrong with four bats, blonde, redhead, Okay, yeah,

(02:04:28):
I'm okay, Green Day. There you go. All right, we're
getting somewhere horse Girl, Uh yeah, Japanese Breakfast, Glass Beams
and the Glorilla Get out of here? Wats tea pain?
Travis Scott, Dude, Travis Scott, Yo Gabba Gabba by the

(02:04:50):
ways on there too. Wow, I'm not kidding. That wasn't
a joke a spectrum man, I'm just quickly looking this.
In the first week in Circle, jer are on their basement,
Jack's craft work, post Malone. There you go, Shaboozy, Meghan

(02:05:12):
the Stallion and Missy Elliott's not together. But you know,
do you think there's a Megan Stallion? Go, No, no,
not the yeah right, I'm not the Stallion. Yeah, the
first weekend does not seem I'm not. I don't see anything.
I'm like, WHOA. Post Malon's pretty solid though, Yeah.

Speaker 7 (02:05:33):
Yeah, it makes me wonder which version of post Malone
you're gonna get. Travis Scott probably the Country one. Probably
he is playing ten laquer. I'm holding up for twenty
right the Viagra Boys. Hey, sounds like a good time.

Speaker 1 (02:05:54):
It looks like the same bands play each weekend, like
every day whatever. Whoever plays the first weekend plays the
second weekend. Oh see. I don't know much about this
except for it's a massive festival. Because more it's more
so I take it. It's more than just one weekend.
It's two weekends. Okay, but you buy a weekend at
a time.

Speaker 7 (02:06:12):
Okay, Well when if you're gonna if it's the same
people play in the same you know whatever, just give
me one weekend.

Speaker 1 (02:06:19):
We'd be all right. Yeah. I have no desire to
go do this. I got invited one time and they
were like, oh yeah, we'll runt a house near the festival,
and I was like, not at the festival. Oh no,
so I'll have to get a car and drive. He's
like yeah, And I'm like, okay, I'll pass stand in
a polo field right in the desert. Yeah, by the way,

(02:06:43):
good time. Yeah. So, if you plan to go to
the the big festival that was gonna happen in April
and Vegas, Sick New World with Metallica and Lincoln Park
and Age, Queens of the Stone Age and AFI, you
will not be because they have canceled it. So we'll
see how that affects the trickle down. Does that mean
Metallica is open for Yeah? Right, all right, we gotta

(02:07:05):
take a break. We'll be back.

Speaker 8 (02:07:07):
More of The Big Man Morning Show is next ninety KMOD.

Speaker 1 (02:07:31):
Good morning, It's The Big Man Morning Show. Four six KMO.
D find what everybody learned? Lindsay, what'd you learn today?

Speaker 6 (02:07:43):
I learned Aaron Rodgers is celebrating his forty first birthday today.
You know how Tom Brady proved you can still perform
at a high level well in your forties, Well, Rogers
is the exact opposite. I also learned that a grandma
stabbed her daughter and grandson on Thanksgiving and that last
inner role can really make people go crazy.

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Gimpy, what'd you learn today?

Speaker 7 (02:08:05):
I learned The Horse Girl is going to be performing
at Coachella this year, which is fun because I didn't
know that Sarah Jessica Parker could sing. And I also
learned that I can make a turkey squirt.

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for his dates. We don't need to hear about all
of it. And also learned that Gimpy chased his brother
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Thank you, thank you, Thank you.

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