June 16, 2025 • 108 mins
Welcome Back From The Weekend!!! We Talk About The Best & Worst Parts, There's A Documentary For You On Oceangate, When You're At A Music Festival...Take You Smartwatch Off, One Guy Blew Up The Toilet At A Casino, Swallowing A Bee Can Kill You, We Spoke To An Awesome Listener, Jeff Hensley Stops By, Scornful Women, & Does Your Life Really Flash before Your Eyes When You Die?!?!?
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Remember ocean Gate? Oh yeah, Lindsay, do you remember ocean Gate?
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Not really uh, kind of a big deal.
Speaker 11 (04:19):
It was the guy who tried to take his homemade
sub down to the Titanic, right oh yeah, yeah, and
it imploded and killed everyone and some of the everybody
was like.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
Ah, I was kind of weird.
Speaker 11 (04:30):
He was kind of you know, not cheap, but he
was trying to do it in an efficient way. He
had a N sixty four controller as the controller for
that's not a joke, by the way, that that's the truth.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
Anyway.
Speaker 11 (04:42):
The documentary has come out on Netflix. Holy cow, this
guy's dumb.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
Oh yeah, it's fan.
Speaker 11 (04:47):
The documentary is so well done. You can hear like
the cracks and pops. I mean it sounds so scary,
maybe because we know the fate. But like one of
the things as he did was he wanted to use
carbon filler instead of steel, and carbon's really cheap, but
it's not a good it's not known for being good
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under pressure like that, and he anybody who tried to
question him, he just was like, you're fired, not even questioned, like, hey, boss,
I think this is that you're fired with that.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
It's gonna this is a dick thing to say. But
with that being said, kind.
Speaker 12 (05:28):
Of got what he deserved, right If other people are
stepping in like, hey, this is not a good filler,
you need to use something else. You're going to the
bottom of the ocean. You want to see the typ tanic,
it's going to crush under pressure. Yeah, whatever, it's my job,
my way or the highway.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
You're fired. I feel like kind of got what he deserves. Yeah,
I don't know, I don't I know.
Speaker 11 (05:48):
I'm thinking I'm ready to go out on a lemon
and say, if you're short tempered or a dick, you
should just die.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
Well I mean die.
Speaker 12 (05:56):
I mean that's an extreme end of it, but I
mean he he didn't heed the warnings.
Speaker 13 (06:01):
Right exactly, and the people he took down with him.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
I mean.
Speaker 11 (06:06):
It's kind of a I mean they also kind of
had to know who the hell gets in a It's
like if Gimpy was like, hey, I made a plane,
do you want to go up in? And I go no, dude,
I don't nothing against Gimpy. Yeah, nothing against Gimpy. I
just I'm gonna go with no. I don't trust him
(06:28):
in the aviation world.
Speaker 12 (06:29):
I have never built a plane before. And I don't
know if this guy you watched the documentary, has he
ever built submarines before?
Speaker 2 (06:36):
No? Not like whatever.
Speaker 11 (06:38):
No, So we'll hold it. Okay, Okay, I love that
we're piecing this together. What if Gimpy had tried to
build an airplane for a long time? Okay, that's like
the ten years. Okay, you could make the statement he
is a aviation expert.
Speaker 12 (06:58):
Sure, No, No, you cannot. No, you cannot, because the
key word in that statement there Corbyn is tried. He
could not successfully build anything. It didn't get off the ground.
He's been trying to.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Build an airplane for the past ten years.
Speaker 11 (07:15):
So we say, if you make it to an open
mic night, you're a comedian. Yeah, and that's trying there's
no resistance to be on an open mic night.
Speaker 12 (07:24):
Oh absolutely not. However, there's some success there. Did you
go to opening the mic night and die? No, he didn't.
To a few bad jokes. You learned your lesson from
last time.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
I'm sure he put it in the water and no
water seat thin.
Speaker 12 (07:40):
Absolutely yes, you need a little more than an Olympic
science pool to really get a testing.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
And I'm sure he went submerged and it was fine.
I'm sure.
Speaker 11 (07:49):
I'm just saying like, at some point, how do you
filter the process of like a he knows, what's the
barometer of measurement?
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 12 (08:01):
I think if you take it out to the lake.
The pressure in a lake is way different than the
pressure and the ocean.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
Not even that near the Titanic, right, real man?
Speaker 12 (08:13):
So it's like it's the cynical thing to say, yes,
But I feel like he had all the opportunities to,
I don't know, do it the right way.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
Maybe get some.
Speaker 12 (08:22):
Other people involved who who really know how to build
submercibles and and what materials you're supposed to use and
da da da dad. But I don't know, I haven't,
I haven't haven't gotten into it. Maybe he did.
Speaker 13 (08:35):
It wasn't the time to cut corners.
Speaker 11 (08:37):
No, something like people cut corners and everything. So to me,
the cutting corners part isn't the crazy thing. To me,
the people that went on and he killed innocently, should
they have known better? I don't know hindsight's twenty twenty,
but if he had been doing it for a long time,
I'm sure they trusted him. I'm sure they had no
reason to not trust him. He could have been a
(08:58):
great salesman. And me personally, I just had this conversation
with my sister and now I just don't trust people.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
So even if you're like, hey, I.
Speaker 11 (09:06):
Build sumercibles and it's an unnecessary risk in life, I'm like,
I'm hard pass.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Yeah. Has he built submersibles before? Was this the first one?
Speaker 11 (09:15):
I mean I think he had different versions of this one,
if I remember correctly, Right in each one, you try
to make a little bit better.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
People that build canoes, we go right out and get
in the canoe. Right.
Speaker 12 (09:24):
Yeah, absolutely, But I'm sure the first canoe, the first
tree that was hollowed out, you know, may not have
been that good.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
And then they learned their lesson.
Speaker 12 (09:34):
They didn't die, you know, they just swamed ashore, and
I was like, all right, well, see those little holes
down there, we don't need those in there anymore.
Speaker 14 (09:42):
R Right.
Speaker 11 (09:43):
But if you go to the guy and he's like, hey,
you want to go ride my canoe? How many of
you built? I built one, but this one it didn't work,
but this one's better, or he just goes, I've built
one before you go, Okay, yeah, I'm good.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
No, I'm with you.
Speaker 11 (09:59):
I just don't trust people at all. I've read too
many books about people being Charlton's I bet I. People
are constantly trying to trick people for the wrong reasons, right,
And so I just don't trust people in general when
it comes to a lot of things. And so if
you're like, hey, you want to go down to the Titanic,
(10:19):
I go, dude, we just met on Facebook for real?
Speaker 2 (10:23):
No, No, I don't know you. Hey do you want
to go ride my canoe? Hell no, I don't. I
don't even.
Speaker 11 (10:28):
Trust the people that have the uh they've been in
business for eighteen years in Kazumel and are putting you
on a repelled line up to the sky, you know,
and they might even have insurance. Right, how do you
even go about finding the guy in the art By
the way, in the documentary he talks about, uh, he
wanted to take pearl jam because he loves pearl.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
This is not a joke. And he.
Speaker 11 (10:54):
Was like no, yeah, And he was a he was
a came from a rich line of family, so he
had money, right, so he just thought he could have
access to anyone.
Speaker 12 (11:04):
Yeah, you'd think if you've got the money, you would
go and use the proper resources, you know what I mean,
instead of Hey, I've got this idea, instead of putting
it together yourself. I've got this idea, I have the
money to fund it. Let's go find some experts who
have built, you know, submarines that can withstand that kind
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of pressure. Let's get them in on it. I mean,
he mighty is no object that shouldn't be shouldn't be
a problem.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
Well, two things.
Speaker 11 (11:31):
One, I think it's a myth that people that have
a lot of money aren't careful with their money.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
Oh no, for sure, as possible.
Speaker 11 (11:38):
Yeah, yeah, you try to be as frugal as possible
even when you have that much money. Right, you may
not be frugal when you have your seven towns buying
a seventh hous but you may not, you know, use
glitten paint.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
You might use well paint.
Speaker 11 (11:50):
You see what I'm saying. So I think people are
still frugal when they have money. The other thing is
rich people all the time are trying to prove that
they're worth right, especially people that are just handed money.
Look at the movie Fox Catcher played by Steve Carrell,
uh and he was so bent on trying to prove
he was a brilliant person. He tried to coach an
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Olympic wrestling team, didn't know anything about wrestling, and became
obsessed about it, crazy like serial killer crazy right, right,
and he ended up killing somebody in the process. So
you could rich people are constantly trying to be like,
I'm damn it, I'm worth something, right, I've done a
good job.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
I get that.
Speaker 12 (12:31):
Like me think of it like this, Like Elon Musk
didn't go and get a bunch of jagobs to build
his rockets right to send him into space. Now, granted
a few of them have blown up, but same thing
with NASA. NASA's lost quite a few rockets. And that's national,
not just a private guy. You see what I'm saying.
Speaker 11 (12:48):
I think I think he is the classic example of
trying to get people to like him proven his ye right.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
Yeah, you're probably right on that.
Speaker 12 (12:55):
But he's not going to get in just a bunch
of you know, d students trying to you know, you know,
build rock and no, he's getting people who knows what
they're doing, and when they push back against him, he
fires them.
Speaker 11 (13:04):
That is a it's well documented through the history of him,
and that's his business. He can do that.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
But these are the same guys doing the same thing.
Speaker 13 (13:11):
But wasn't he firing the people that worked at Twitter
or x Now it wasn't nice.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
When he took it over he did. That was different.
Speaker 11 (13:19):
But anybody who has pushed back with him, you can
read any of the stuff about people that have worked
for him and they came back and like, hey, this
isn't a good idea, and he would go, wait, you
don't think it can be done, You're fired, right. So
to me, this is a common story across people that
are by the way, he's created some pretty amazing things
and it's still not enough, right, And some people even
(13:41):
argue that Tesla ain't a great product. Yeah, so six
and this half a dozen to the other. But in
case of the Ocean Gate. The documentary is awesome. It
is worth watching. It's worth watching just from a human
standpoint of like, because we know that we know the
end right right. Part of the reason that the movie
(14:02):
Titanic is so good is you knew what was gonna happen, right.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
There's no alternate ending.
Speaker 11 (14:07):
No, No, they had to sink that boat in that movie.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
Yeah. The only fact about that.
Speaker 11 (14:13):
Movie is the boat sank, and the rest is all
made up, exactly.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
Everything is made up.
Speaker 13 (14:19):
The only thing that didn't have to happen was she
could have moved her ass over on that door and
he could have fit on it. He didn't have to die.
Speaker 12 (14:27):
Maybe he wanted to. Yeah, I'm tired of this fat cow.
I'm out here, all right.
Speaker 11 (14:33):
We got to take a break. We've got tickets to
duf Leppard we're gonna give away.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
We'll be back.
Speaker 15 (14:37):
More of The Big Man Morning Show is next ninety MD.
Speaker 13 (14:43):
Welcome back. It's The Big Man Morning Show in ninety
seven five k m D. I'm Lindsay and Gimpy.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
Hey, good morning. I think Orman had to go to
the bathroom. So it's all good.
Speaker 12 (14:56):
It's all good. It ain't nothing to take care of here.
So what we're gonna do is I'm wanting to try
to figure out what we got going on on his
side of the screen, Okay, and then we'll just kind
of go from there.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
That's that's all that we can do about. And let's
see here.
Speaker 12 (15:10):
We've got news quikies around here somewhere, news quikies where
you went. Let's see here, lindsay, here we go.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
There we go, He'll find it.
Speaker 11 (15:28):
Oh right, yeah, okay. The news quikies are stories you
may have missed in the news.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
We call them here.
Speaker 11 (15:34):
We'll get started on our Facebook page at facebook dot com.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
Slash people, it's time for newsquakies.
Speaker 12 (15:41):
World news, local news and news that just makes you say,
what the Here's Corbyn?
Speaker 2 (15:46):
Gimmee and lindsay with what's going on? Newsquakies from the
Big nd Morning showing ninety seven.
Speaker 13 (15:50):
Five festival rockers told to take off their smart watches.
So this happened in Leicestershire, England. When hundreds of emergency
calls came in from fans at the Download Festival two
years ago. The emergency services must have thought a disaster
was unfolding at the three day heavy metal gig. In fact,
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The calls were made automatically from smart watches and other
devices worn by fans because the tech assumed that people
in mash pits had been in a collision. So now
the police there say people have to either take them
off or put them in airplane mode, because the force
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is appealing to those attending the festival this weekend to
turn their devices to airplane mode to avoid the unnecessary
nine nine calls. The number of nine to nine to
nine calls during the event doubled from the usual six
hundred or so over a long weekend in previous years.
Due to wearable tech issues. We saw a rise of
nearly seven hundred extra calls in the weekend police set
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on social media. All those calls had to be assessed
to ensure that there is no real threat, risk or harm.
We take our contact handlers away from answering true emergency
calls when we show up. Police are asking fans to
stay on the line if their device makes an accidental call,
or to answer callbacks made by emergency teams to let
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us know that they are safe. According to one US
personal injury law firm, mosh pits always have risks and dangers,
but can also result in enjoyable chaos and energy release.
Some wearable technology includes a crash detection feature, and Apple
says it's watches and some iPhones will sound an alarm
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and display an alert if they detect a severe car crash.
Unless the alert is canceled, the device calls the emergency
services after a thirty second countdown.
Speaker 11 (17:50):
It feels like a marketing technique to promote the Cup festival. Hmm,
could be listen to the lineup Green Day, Weezer, Jimmy World,
Shine Down, Corn Sleep Token, a bullet from my Valentine
with sugar like that to me that it's not like
there was some crazy more than normal amount of.
Speaker 12 (18:14):
Washing right the same as it as any music festival,
rock festival.
Speaker 11 (18:19):
Yes, yes, So it feels like a way to promote,
like we have more washing at this festival. I guess
it could kind of make sense though, Like I know,
if I shake my phone three times, at least there's
a setting in there that I can shake my phone
three times and it'll send a pin of where I'm
at to whomever, kind of like y'all's crash detection sort
of thing. So I guess if you're slamming around, but
(18:40):
is there really enough pressure, you know, washing around and
slamming into people that could cause that to go off
enough that you have to tell everyone like take again.
Feels like a marketing move.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
Who knows?
Speaker 12 (18:52):
Maybe so mannic used a blowing up a casino toilets
hand right, you can eat. So this comes out of Pittsburgh, right,
I think it was just last week or whatever. There's
this guy, he's forty seven, his name's Jeremy Hartman. He
goes to the River's Casino. Now, this is like five
forty in the morning on a Sunday, right, and he
(19:15):
sneaks into this closed restaurant, right, and he's trying to
steal some liquor total him about four thousand dollars.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
Right.
Speaker 12 (19:27):
Well, he gets caught obviously, and they taken him. Security's
taking him to a secured area to figure out what
they're gonna do with this game.
Speaker 13 (19:35):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 12 (19:35):
And on his way to the secured area, he's like,
I gotta got the bathroom.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
So they're like, I finally, go ahead, go to the bathroom.
Speaker 12 (19:44):
So he goes into the bathroom and he takes what
they're calling is a commercial grade firework and it lights it,
shoves it into the toilet, and the toilet blows up,
and I guess there was a casino employee in the
bathroom at the same time suffered minor injuries.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
Is what he's said.
Speaker 12 (20:03):
They went ahead and grabbed that guy, called the police out.
They had searched his car, they found more fireworks and
now they got to call the bomb squad out. And
bomb squad does a sweep of his car in a
parking lot, don't find anything else. They went ahead and
took this cat in on a slew of charges. This
is this two felony charges of arson, endangering persons single
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fell in, a charge of theft, receiving stolen property and
risk risking a catastrophe, and misdemeanor charges of reckless endangering
another person and criminal mischief.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
Grow up for real.
Speaker 11 (20:41):
I get blowing stuff up's fun, but to take it
into an establishment. Were people that don't want to participate
in that. Do it at your camper man.
Speaker 12 (20:50):
Right, blow up your own damn toilets the wild, Grow
up real.
Speaker 11 (20:57):
Billionaires swallows b and die. Prince william Is Morning the
loss of a friend who died last week after swallowing
a bee at a polo match. Sunjay Coepar collapsed during
the match in the UK, apparently after going into anthyletic
shock and suffering a heart attack. The billionaire businessman was
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fifty three. When I read the headline, I thought he
was like he nothing can stop me and took a
B and ate it.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
That's not what happened. No, he's just playing and a B.
He's like, did I just swallow a bee? And then
he did something. Wow.
Speaker 12 (21:29):
I wonder if he knew he was allergic to bees
before that.
Speaker 11 (21:33):
So apparently it's a very small percentage of people that
will go into shock like that from a beasting, and
it's probably an even smaller percentage that will swallow a
bee in the air.
Speaker 12 (21:43):
Right, that's the final destination stuff. Right in the movie,
see him out there playing soccer and they're kicking the
ball around and then you see coming from above a bee.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
And then into his mouth. An.
Speaker 13 (21:57):
I wondered if an E and EpiPen would have saved him.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
Absolutely it would have.
Speaker 11 (22:01):
But if you don't know you're allergic, you don't carry
what true, Well, most people don't even go and have
themselves checked for allergies.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
Yes, it's true.
Speaker 13 (22:10):
You would think if they were on a golf.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
Course, not a golf course them.
Speaker 13 (22:16):
You would think though that being there there's people around
and maybe some.
Speaker 11 (22:20):
My eppie pen might not help europe your Situationpens the
device of which the medicine is delivered. An EpiPen isn't
just a it isn't a tissue. So your g is
allergic to peanuts? Peanuts, And how did you find that out?
Did you give her some peanut butter and she started
to break out in hives or so funny thing. I mean,
(22:43):
we did give her peanut butter, and and she ate strawberries.
This is she had have been three, okay, And I
noticed she ate lunch and then I changed her diaper
or whatever, maybe even.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
Less than them. She was three. She wasn't in dire anyway.
Speaker 11 (22:58):
And uh, I saw a reaction on her chest, and
I was like, that doesn't look right, okay, And I
thought it was the strawberries, and so we made an appointment.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
She went to the doctor.
Speaker 11 (23:08):
They did a test and they're like, oh no, she's
a little deathly allergic to peanut butter.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
Oh wow.
Speaker 11 (23:13):
And so that's when kind of it wasn't the strawberries.
It must have been the peanut butter and jelly sandwich
got it, and then we did more testing because we
found like she was getting we just did the peanut butter,
and then we found like she was getting having trouble
seeing during the day at school and a kid, so
she's not really explaining her symptoms accurately, and her allergies
(23:37):
were so bad it was causing her to get a
headache and not.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
See very well. Wow, And so we found.
Speaker 11 (23:42):
She's pretty intensely has allergies more than the common joe
and has to get allergy shots.
Speaker 12 (23:49):
And only the reason I asked because I feel like
because you were like, not a lot of people. Most
people don't. I've never been tested for allergies or stuff.
I think that's like a reactionary sort of thing. You
don't do it until after the fact, you know, somebody
has peanut butter. It's yeah, yeah, maybe we should start doing.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
But I guess I don't know. Can you can you
do that? Yeah?
Speaker 11 (24:12):
Can you go in ahead of time without you know,
I want to see what I'm allergic to? You not
out By the way, not all allergy places are the same, right,
Some allergy places you go in and they just do
the test on the back and.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
Wait and you see.
Speaker 11 (24:26):
Okay, some do a blood test, which is far more accurate,
and some places feel a little like, you know, sleep abnea,
you test your sleep abnea. Boom, you got it. I
don't know anybody who's ever been turned away to sleep
apnea testing.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
Right, Ain't that the truth? Yeah?
Speaker 16 (24:42):
I don't.
Speaker 12 (24:42):
I think this sounds like a horrible place to work,
to be honest with you, because I just imagine like
an office building, right, and they've got like all kinds
of cats and dogs and like you know, peanut butter
and like you know, all liquid form, right, all the
allergic allergy stuff is just in one building.
Speaker 11 (24:58):
And I'm like, no, now, it was the worst. So
like when they tested her one time, this other place
we used to go before they did the blood test, Uh,
they had these needles and she had to chill her
shirt and they just did all these pricks on her
back and we had to sit there and she.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
Was like, ah, like yeah, no, it was miserable, dude.
Speaker 11 (25:17):
And you can't take like anything to deal with it, right,
because they want to see what reactionally.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
Oh god, it's the worst.
Speaker 11 (25:23):
Yeah, that sounds horrible, man, And swallowing a bee doesn't
feel awesome.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
No, no, I they had to was stung them in
his throat. It did, it did many times.
Speaker 11 (25:36):
Well one time beat steak one time because they lose
their stingers to that.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
And then they died, all of them.
Speaker 12 (25:41):
Yes, that was the whole point of Jerry Seinfeld in
the Bee movie, right, yes, and then they die, right
he sacrificed himself.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
Yeah. Yeah, yeah. By the way, mid movie, the B movie. Yeah,
mid movie. It's really not good. It's no, it's at
a kid's movie. Not good. It's a mid movie at best.
Speaker 11 (26:01):
So much even my kids are like, nah, all right,
we got to take a break. All these stories are
on our Facebook page at facebook dot com. Slash BMMS
six nine.
Speaker 8 (26:10):
Tulsa's Morning Show is coming right back, a big morning
show Tulsa's rock station.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
Apparently. Do you know the story Gippie uh am, I
stealing your na man? This is all you have at it.
Speaker 12 (26:25):
I just think it is hilarious and really, really, if
it's the same story that I'm thinking, I'm pretty sure
it is.
Speaker 11 (26:32):
So Friday, they had the game, right, and they had
the watch party down at one oak Field that have
been awesome and the police got called there about a
thousand people or more at the game or at the
stadium watching the game on the big TV there, and
this man apparently decided to whip out his dog in
front of everybody. He has been arrested and his name
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is Mirash and people probably thought it was a mirage,
but no, it was actually his penis. He was arrested
in charge with indecent exposure in public intoxication. When the
police arrived, security had him restrained. Which, by the way,
if you are security at one Oak Field, securing naked
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people is not something on your radar.
Speaker 12 (27:24):
No, no, you did not go to work that day.
Expect him to detain a nicked man.
Speaker 11 (27:30):
Certain things I think like police officers feel like ah,
even they probably joke like I don't want to touch
a naked person, right, And but at a baseball stadium.
Speaker 13 (27:39):
I mean it, guys, had these streakers run the field?
Speaker 2 (27:42):
Not really?
Speaker 13 (27:43):
Maybe not?
Speaker 2 (27:44):
It's not common. No, it's not common.
Speaker 13 (27:46):
Has happened, of course it has happened, but it is
not common.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
So when you take a job like that, you do
not expect it to happen.
Speaker 12 (27:54):
Did you see in there his reasoning for stripping down. No,
he said he was hot.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
Humid. Yeah right, but come on, you're at a ballpark, bro.
I gotta be honest.
Speaker 11 (28:05):
When I my body temperature feels elevated, whipping my penis
out is not the way I cool down, all right,
it's literally Yeah, I'm good with this.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
Not on my radar. Things to do to cool down?
Speaker 13 (28:19):
No, wasn't that splash pad not open?
Speaker 2 (28:23):
Good? Like taking my shirt off. Socks off always seems
to cool me.
Speaker 12 (28:27):
Offs and shoes are number one, Right, that'll come off
first of anything, right, Hat, you gotta do the top
and bottoms of your body. Right, if you earn a hat,
take the hat off, and if you got your socks
and shoes on, take those off, because that's where everything
all the heat exits.
Speaker 11 (28:41):
Now, if I'm being honest, I have done this in
an extreme scenario where I have taken like paper towels
and put them in cold water or even dumped ice
on them and put them in that hot zone.
Speaker 12 (28:53):
Yeah yeah, but you're not pulling it out and then
placing the ice or the wet paper.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
No.
Speaker 11 (29:01):
At best I would turn or have some shielding done
and put the stick my hand in there and put
the paper towel with cold water on my grundle.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
I'm not trying to show anything. Go to a bathroom something, right.
Speaker 13 (29:15):
I'm sure that the store was open inside, you know,
to buy some merch. That place is air conditioned.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 13 (29:23):
Would have felt great in there.
Speaker 12 (29:25):
Yeah, leave like he said, Yeah, just leave, Just go
get in your car, turning ac uncle home, strip down,
naked in your own bed or on your couch whatever,
and then cool off that way.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
Yeah that cracked me up.
Speaker 12 (29:37):
I might really I've been pretty warm in my time,
but not enough to pull him a waaner.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
Well, then you haven't been warm.
Speaker 13 (29:44):
Good morning Lindsay, Good morning Gorbon. He's not fat, He's
a fluffy comedian. Gabriel Iglesias will be back in Tulsa
on Saturday, July twelfth at the Cove inside River Spirit
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Speaker 12 (30:02):
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Speaker 11 (30:19):
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sure you're listening every hour with us to get qualified.
Let's do best and worst of the weekend. What's the
best part of the weekend. What's the worst part of
the weekend? BMMS and whatever that is to eight two
(30:40):
nine four five. We'll go around the room and then
we'll read your text BMMS and what's the best and
worst part of your weekend? To eight two nine four five.
Lindsay what's the best and what's the worst?
Speaker 4 (30:50):
Uh?
Speaker 13 (30:51):
The best of the weekend. We camped for Father's Day
despite having somewhat crappy weather. Of course, Uh, it feels
like all all it does anymore is rain. Growing up,
all we did on Father's Day was camp so it
was pretty awesome to take the kids camping, and we
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gave Kevin his Father's Day gifts while camping and.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
RV or like tent.
Speaker 13 (31:18):
Yeah, RV. Some breds of ours have one and when
they're out of town they're like, hey, use ours. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
It makes a difference with the weather.
Speaker 13 (31:27):
Yeah, absolutely, So we did that and the it cleared
up a bit yesterday, so we got to be on
the lake, did a little bit of fishing, caught some catfish,
and while we were out on the lake, there was
spoon bill jumping clearly completely out of the water and
it was cool to see and witness, and it happened
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a lot, and we had to get off the water.
I did personally around five to take my oldest get
him home because he was leaving for a Florida trip
with his church youth group. And so the which brings
me to the worst of the weekend, which was last night.
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I just had the worst time sleeping. I had horrible dreams,
and I have a feeling it had to do with
all of the fish jumping in the air and witnessing
all of those. My son was very excited because of
the fact that he's going to Florida. He's going to
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I mean, we went to Florida and went to Disney
and all that, but he's excited to be going into
the ocean for the first time and experiencing that. And
I just had all of these dreams last night of
him being in the ocean and him being eaten by
fish or a shark like it was. It just kept
waking me up and it was awful. So I had
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the worst night's sleep last night compared to the best
sleep when I'm camping.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
So that sucked. Is going to the ocean side or
the gulf side.
Speaker 13 (33:01):
They're going to Panama City the side.
Speaker 11 (33:05):
Yeah, I had a nightmare that I woke up to
and right when like the storms happened is when it
really woke me up. And I was we were all
of us, you guys, were everybody was in this. We
were being chased by road runners. But they were road
runners that were two D and they looked like turkeys,
(33:25):
like Thanksgiving turkeys, you know, like big fanned out tails
and stuff. And they were blue and white and they
looked like cutout paper.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
That's but they were two D.
Speaker 12 (33:37):
I guess that days of times Trivia are really you know,
traumatized juice, right, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
Best and worst of the weekend.
Speaker 11 (33:45):
What's the best part of the weekend, what's the worst
part of the weekend, Gimpie, what's the best and what's
the worst.
Speaker 12 (33:49):
The best was definitely Rocked the River down at Sparrowhawk Campgrounds.
I stayed there all week and got down there Friday afternoon.
It was probably like one in the afternoon, okay, and
and of course had to unload and took a little
nap before I had to host for the night right
And it was awesome. A lot of people turned out.
(34:10):
Music was great, okay, and I had a great time
doing it. The guys from Tantric are pretty awesome. Head
Pe slaid it, okay.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
Not gonna lie.
Speaker 12 (34:19):
Never was really a big head Pe fan, never really
got into their music, but watching them live, I was like, dude, yeah,
this is awesome. Yeah, it was awesome. So that was
the absolute best part of the weekend. The worst part
of the weekend is the guy and dang weather Man.
It just rained and as the show did go on,
because you know, I talked to John the owner spirit Ogain,
(34:41):
yeah it's gonna happen rain or shine. A couple of
the bands got delayed Saturday because it rained most of
the day, and we didn't float Saturday because it.
Speaker 2 (34:50):
Rained most of the day.
Speaker 12 (34:52):
And by the time the rain stopped, well, you know
here we've got you know, concert attending, and it's too
late to start floating anyway. So we're like, all right, well,
I tell you, we'll just get up early tomorrow on
Sunday and we'll go float then. And we all wake up.
Because there it was me and the Shenan Against crew,
(35:12):
of course, that's what we call ourselves, the late.
Speaker 2 (35:14):
Ten of Us. And uh we get up.
Speaker 12 (35:17):
All hungover a for the most part, right, and uh oh,
we gotta we gotta hurry you up and go. Rain's
gonna be here in about an hour and it's not
gonna stop all day.
Speaker 2 (35:26):
That's what I was told.
Speaker 12 (35:27):
I was like, well, cramp, I don't want to ride
my bike home in the rain, so let's go ahead
and clear this up. Get the hell out of here,
you know, beat the rain home.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
Did it rain yesterday? No, it was like a damn it.
Speaker 12 (35:42):
We totally could have floated yesterday and we didn't because
we were duped by mother Nager. Not only that was
that was the worst part of it. It was just just
the rain. But we made the best of it anyway.
Speaker 11 (35:54):
Best and worst the weekend, what's the best part of
the weekend. What's the worst part of the weekend when
you guys do that that thing? GIMPI do you cook?
Did you just eat off the food truck?
Speaker 2 (36:04):
Oh?
Speaker 12 (36:04):
No, what do you guys do a Friday night? We
did eat off the food truck. They had one out there.
They had two of that, couple of them, but the
ones that stuck out the most was a hot dog
stand called Slinging Whinnies.
Speaker 2 (36:17):
I'm like, that's brilliant.
Speaker 12 (36:18):
And then there was another one called like the Cowboy
Kitchen or Cowboy Corner or something like that, right, and
they had hamburgers and stuff over there. So some old
lady goes over there, She's like, you want a hamburger.
I'm like, yeah, sure, I'm delici I need something in
me now because I am starving. I hadn't really eaten
all day long, right, like a bean burrito. Somebody brought
(36:39):
some waino and they're like, would you like one?
Speaker 2 (36:41):
Yeah? Sure? And this burger was mash. She brought me
a double burger.
Speaker 12 (36:46):
She got one for herself too, right, biggest dang old burger.
Speaker 2 (36:51):
Trying to eat that thing was oh, it was all
over the place.
Speaker 12 (36:54):
They got to a point to where I'm no longer
eating a traditional hamburger like the way that it should be.
I'm just cave manning at GOLs, taking it and shoving
in my mouth and chewing on it because it was
so big and massive.
Speaker 2 (37:07):
The second day we cooked.
Speaker 12 (37:10):
Saturday, we cooked and my brother stopped at the house
got my blackstone.
Speaker 2 (37:14):
We did tacos.
Speaker 12 (37:15):
We did street tacos of all two different kinds of meats,
you know, chicken and carne a son and stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (37:23):
And that's what we did on Saturday.
Speaker 11 (37:26):
Best and worst of the weekend. What's the best part
of the weekend. What's the worst part of the weekend?
Bmms and what that is to eight two, nine four five.
Best part of the week Father's Day yesterday, opening gifts
and we grilled steaks and you know all that. Yeah,
just good, nice chill day. Weather didn't affect at all
because I was inside.
Speaker 2 (37:46):
It's great. What'd you get for Father's Day? Just some
clothes and stuff, some T shirts and stuff like that.
Speaker 11 (37:54):
And then the worst part of the weekend is my
You might remember though my wife had a car shoe,
she had a new car issue surface in the last
week where she couldn't get it started, and the uh,
it happened again, and then it kept happening and I
haven't got to hear it, so I don't know what
it was doing. And it's a push start, so it's
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not like you turn the key and can you know,
understand it from the classic way that I was taught
to understand if it's a starter or battery or altering
or whatever. And so I finally got to do it,
and I was like, oh, yeah, that's a battery one
hundred percent. And I had to take the bat change
the battery in it. Now, this is a German car.
The battery is in the trunk and I had to
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take part of the trunk out to.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
Get to this. And the battery was massive.
Speaker 11 (38:42):
It had to have been two feet long, and it
was about a three hundred dollars battery. And while I
was taking the brackets out, and they take European bolts,
which is a little type of different socket, and I
lost one of the bolts and I tried looking for it,
and I don't know where it went, and there's nowhere
for it to go except for in the bottom of
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the trunk, and so I don't know where it's at.
But I got two of the three, and so I
grabbed and I felt like that was pretty sketchy. It
was good enough for me, love, I mean, I mean,
the engineers feel like three was the right call, right,
but two felt pretty good.
Speaker 2 (39:21):
Yeah, So I don't know.
Speaker 11 (39:24):
So that was the worst of just trying to have
to do that yesterday on Father's Day. Best and worst
of the weekend? What's the best part of the weekend.
What's the worst part of the weekend?
Speaker 2 (39:33):
Best? Saw wicked? Worst? Uh? Mom fell down the steps?
Speaker 11 (39:38):
No, damn, But I feel like if you're gonna fall
down the steps your mom, it feels like at some
sort of Wicked or Wizard of Oz.
Speaker 2 (39:48):
Thing makes a lot of sense.
Speaker 11 (39:50):
Why, Well, because it doesn't the house fall on, the
evil step mom and all that stuff.
Speaker 2 (39:55):
Yeah, the wicked witch or the West or whatever.
Speaker 13 (39:57):
Wicked.
Speaker 11 (39:59):
Well, but no, Wicked is about that, yeah, right. Best
my daughter got married this weekend.
Speaker 2 (40:05):
She was beautiful.
Speaker 11 (40:06):
My wife was beautiful, and I danced like an idiot
with my daughter. Worst, I think I got bit by
a spider or something. My wrist really hurts. There's a
red mark with gou I'm slightly concerned that my hand
might rot off. Oh, you can't be concerned that much
because you're texting us and not going to the doctor.
Speaker 13 (40:24):
Right, is there a Center Dot?
Speaker 11 (40:28):
Best of the weekend getting pulled over doing sixty and
a forty this morning, but not getting a ticket or arrested.
Worst of the weekend hit a small depressive wall yesterday
thinking about my dad and not having my kiddos best
girls trip to Nashville for the weekend to celebrate my
niece's twenty first birthday. Worst her mom's attitude and the
way she acted while drinking.
Speaker 2 (40:52):
What did she do?
Speaker 12 (40:53):
I'm curious, right, I wonder if they got one of
those party cards, you know I'm talking about.
Speaker 2 (41:01):
You got a pedal?
Speaker 12 (41:02):
Yeah, right, yeah, the old bartle bartle bars. They've got
all kinds of those stuff like that flowing around Nashville.
I noted, Oh, yeah, you know when I went there
for that, uh, for that Niners game last year, and uh,
and it's always just women. It's always just a bunch
of woo girls out there just partying.
Speaker 11 (41:21):
I got a problem with, dude. That's what Nashville is.
It is a bachelorette party getaway weekend.
Speaker 2 (41:25):
I didn't realize that was like that oh yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 12 (41:30):
Oh yeah, so they had to have I guess they
didn't have to, but I guess you're gonna do it right,
you should?
Speaker 2 (41:37):
Uh?
Speaker 11 (41:37):
Best was I took my first long distance ride for
me on my new motorcycle to Kansas City for a
Royals game. Worst on the way back, I got hit
with a down poor storm while on the highway, which.
Speaker 2 (41:47):
Was also a first. Popped that cherry twice.
Speaker 11 (41:50):
Best started training for a five k and shoved some
time off my one mile worst undergraduate homework. Sure, uh
Best caught Tantrick's drumstick at Rockthriver. Worst got rained on
all weekend. Well that's fantastic, all right. We got tickets
to def Leppard. We're gonna give away when we come back.
Speaker 8 (42:10):
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Speaker 15 (42:11):
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KMOD time for our listeners are awesome where we chat
with the listener and they share a part of their life.
On the line with us right now is William, Hey, William, how.
Speaker 9 (43:14):
Are you very good?
Speaker 11 (43:17):
William says that it says here you've got three kids.
What's the oldest, what's the youngest?
Speaker 9 (43:24):
Uh, the oldest is twenty, the youngest is sixteen.
Speaker 11 (43:28):
Okay, And it says that you were a firefighter in
New York, which we'll get to.
Speaker 2 (43:35):
But how did you get to Oklahoma?
Speaker 9 (43:38):
Oh? I got tired of the weather. I retired and
said screw it.
Speaker 2 (43:44):
Tired of the weather in New York.
Speaker 9 (43:46):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (43:47):
What was wrong with the weather in New York?
Speaker 9 (43:50):
Uh? The snow, A lot of the snow.
Speaker 2 (43:54):
Just got sick of the snow.
Speaker 11 (43:55):
And of all the places you could have picked without snow,
what made you land here?
Speaker 17 (44:00):
Oh?
Speaker 9 (44:00):
I liked the full four seasons, the hot summers, nice winters.
Speaker 2 (44:07):
Okay.
Speaker 11 (44:08):
Yeah, And so you were a firefighter? How old were
you and you became a firefighter in New York eighteen?
And what made you want to pursue that industry?
Speaker 9 (44:19):
Well, the government didn't want me the military.
Speaker 11 (44:23):
Okay, okay, And so you applied to be a fireman
and went through the training.
Speaker 9 (44:28):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (44:29):
How was that?
Speaker 9 (44:30):
Oh it sucked. It's probably going to the military.
Speaker 11 (44:36):
Was there a point that you thought you weren't gonna
make it through training?
Speaker 2 (44:41):
Oh?
Speaker 9 (44:41):
There was quite a few, quite a few. You get
to watch this little guy, skinny guy, little guy come
out with a five pound weight and he was like,
I'm gonna make you guys sweat hurt.
Speaker 2 (44:51):
Today.
Speaker 9 (44:51):
We're like, what, yeah, right about fifteen twenty minutes in
You're like, yeah, okay, I believe you.
Speaker 2 (44:58):
What was one of the worst things daring your training
that you had to deal with?
Speaker 1 (45:04):
Uh?
Speaker 9 (45:05):
Well, I would say probably the stair training running up
about one hundred flights of stairs type.
Speaker 11 (45:15):
Right, because there's so many buildings that have tenty of floors,
you've got to learn how to climb some stairs.
Speaker 9 (45:20):
Yeah. Yeah, you gotta do it with hose, you got
to do it with all your gear on, all kinds
of stuff.
Speaker 11 (45:25):
Yeah. How old were you when nine to eleven happened?
Speaker 9 (45:32):
Nineteen?
Speaker 11 (45:34):
So you finished training, get assigned to a station, right,
and then nine to eleven happens?
Speaker 9 (45:40):
Yeah, it was probably I think I was in my
station probably seven seven months or so. Wow when all
that happened.
Speaker 11 (45:49):
I'm sure that you can recount a lot of calls
and what you were doing and what the call was like.
But I'm sure you remembered the call that morning.
Speaker 2 (45:57):
Right. Were you in bed? What were you doing when
the all came in.
Speaker 9 (46:01):
I was actually leaving. I was crossing the tapen Zee
Bridge going back home when all that started to happen,
And I remember turning back around and running right through
the toll plaza, taking the guard gate thing down, and
all kinds of the little arm taking that right out,
going right on back.
Speaker 2 (46:20):
And so you go back to the station, and.
Speaker 9 (46:24):
I mean I went right I went right to the scene.
Speaker 12 (46:28):
Was that a decision you made as a firefighter or
did you like get a call from somebody like Gorman
said and is like, hey, you need to turn around
and go back.
Speaker 2 (46:35):
We've just had a catastrophe.
Speaker 9 (46:37):
No, something like that. You just take it on your own.
And what happened was I was listening to the radio
going home, and I was just jamming out, and then
I heard all that on the radio that came across
the same breaking news and this and that, and so
I turned my radio back on and I was listening
to the station radio for the city, and I heard
(47:00):
it all, and I said, oh man, So I turned
back around and I just called that back.
Speaker 11 (47:06):
See you didn't have your suit or anything. You just
went right to the scene.
Speaker 9 (47:11):
At first, I went by to make sure what was
going on, is what was going on. Then I went
to the station and got my gear and then went
back because I didn't believe it at first.
Speaker 12 (47:23):
Do false alarms like that that magnitude happen often.
Speaker 9 (47:30):
Not really, I mean something like that, you can't just
you know, false alarm. But yeah, when something like that
comes across you kind of know it's not It's not
like a fire alarm going off, false alarm. It's something
like a oh man, that's real.
Speaker 11 (47:51):
Yeah, I mean I can't imagine there's a question I
can ask you that would shed light on your feeling.
I think everybody can under have empathy and understand what
it was like. What do you think is something people
overlook from your standpoint about that day.
Speaker 9 (48:11):
They overlook what we were actually doing and how we
did it, like they just think that we were doing
it for the pride, And I guess you couldn't say
the light shine on us and we're not. We were
just doing our job. That's what we were trained to do.
That's what we were doing.
Speaker 2 (48:31):
Yeah, how long were you unseene? Do you remember? Oh?
Speaker 9 (48:36):
I would say a few months, so you.
Speaker 11 (48:39):
Just and you didn't pull a rotation back at the
house at the fire station at that point.
Speaker 9 (48:46):
No, No, for the first I would say two and
a half months. Everything was hectic after that. Then they
started pushing everyone away, saying, listen, you can't stay here.
That long you have to go and get away from
here for a week or whatever, but on your off
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time you can come back when you're not at your
station working. Well, we found ways around that. I mean, well,
there's three hundred and forty three people, three hundred and
forty three firefighters that were lost and we were looking
for them and numerous numerous people, right, I mean a
lot of people. Right, So we were just out there
looking for anything and everybody. So we just kind of
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found ways around everything, like we would a lot of times.
We would go there and then when we got a call,
we would go do it and then come back to it.
Speaker 2 (49:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 11 (49:36):
I don't know what question to ask to clarify anything,
because we know it wasn't awesome.
Speaker 2 (49:43):
We know how sad it is.
Speaker 11 (49:45):
We know the dedication, the grit that you and other
people there showed just to be try and find everybody
it is. It is an overwhelming thing just to think
about and for you to experience that in your first
seven months, that's awesome.
Speaker 2 (50:00):
So a lot.
Speaker 9 (50:01):
Yeah, Yeah, that that that pretty much set the rest
of my career.
Speaker 11 (50:07):
Right, Like if I were to go, hey, what was
the second most crazy call you went on?
Speaker 2 (50:12):
It wouldn't even be close.
Speaker 9 (50:13):
Right, No, No, nope, that that tops everything that I've
pretty much I've done in my career.
Speaker 2 (50:21):
I would happen.
Speaker 11 (50:23):
I would actually even suspect that once you guys finish
the assignment on scene and you go back to the
new normal at the fire station, that there was kind
of like a psychological thing that kicked in at that point.
Speaker 2 (50:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (50:40):
Pretty much. It was no normal after that. I mean
you just couldn't get back to a normal state as in,
just come in, do what you guys do, and didn't
go home type. There was none of that. I mean,
it was always in the background because well we always
had that in our shadow to look at. We could
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always look over and be like, well, damn, there was
towers there, right.
Speaker 11 (51:04):
Yeah, it's and it's embedded in everybody in the fire
station too, right, Like it's now a part of your DNA.
Speaker 2 (51:13):
Right.
Speaker 9 (51:13):
Every firehouse has a memorial to that at some point
or at some aspect of the people lost from each house.
Speaker 2 (51:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 13 (51:25):
So, yeah, have you gone back since leaving?
Speaker 9 (51:29):
No?
Speaker 13 (51:30):
No, no, do you ever? Can you when you close
your eyes, do you still see that day?
Speaker 16 (51:36):
Oh?
Speaker 9 (51:36):
I saw have shakes and nightmares and all kinds of stuff. Wow,
I woke up and grabbed my wife and I was
dragging around the house one night because I was having
a nightmare.
Speaker 11 (51:46):
Right, But you went on other calls. There are other
things that have shaped your career as a fireman. Yeah,
And it says here that the first time you fell
through a floor while firefighting, tell me about that.
Speaker 9 (52:03):
I find that kind of like a little funny story
because when we got we got to a call. It
was for a gas alarm and it was a faulty
furnace and they left some gas out and then it
gave a little explosion. It wasn't a major one, but
a little bit and it caught fire just a little
had a uh what do you call that? Like a
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daycare type And when we went in, we were going
up to the second floor where the furnace was, and
we got five foot in and I went to go
step up on the step and I was in the basement. Wow,
I was like, I found that kind of funny because
when I landed, I landed on pretty much the mats
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and everything they have they keep down in the basement,
and I kind of fell hit the floor and fell
over on those. I mean, it was a shock at
the moment, but now that I look back, it was
kind of funny.
Speaker 11 (52:55):
Is have you seen I'm sure Backdraft is part of
the required training to become a Ironman, right the movie Backdraft?
Speaker 9 (53:01):
Yeah, he's got Backdraft. They can't really train you with.
It's just signs you have to look for when they
have videos of old backdrafts that they had video of
that they caught on video. But other than that, the
main thing they really training for is slashovers.
Speaker 11 (53:19):
But watching the movie Backdraft was not part of the
required training, was it?
Speaker 9 (53:24):
No?
Speaker 2 (53:25):
No long? No? Not how long? It's one of the
Cage Brothers.
Speaker 9 (53:32):
Yeah, I mean it's a it's a it's a good movie,
but it's got some tweaks to it that's not real.
Speaker 11 (53:44):
Did you guys do a lot of hazing to Boots? Like,
is there do you remember any of that?
Speaker 3 (53:49):
Oh?
Speaker 9 (53:50):
I don't know if I'm really supposed to talk about that. Well, yeah,
there was some, there was some.
Speaker 11 (53:56):
Was there anybody that came on that You're like, I'm
gonna make them quit?
Speaker 18 (54:01):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (54:01):
Yeah?
Speaker 9 (54:02):
Oh yeah, a lot of And how.
Speaker 2 (54:04):
Would you one do that?
Speaker 9 (54:08):
Oh, there's numerous ways, but I would say the most
the most friendliest way to tell anybody would be push
them to their limits, like make them do all the
grunt work, all the just crap jobs. You don't want
to do it, and you make them do it, and
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then eventually they'll just be like, you know what, I'm
moving firehouses just crap.
Speaker 11 (54:34):
How many times would you say you've seen that happen.
You don't have to say if you've been a part
of it, but how many times have you seen that
happen where that's just kind of made guys move firehouses?
Speaker 9 (54:47):
Well, it's like a family. If you just don't fit,
you are pushed out one way or another. So I've
seen that probably a handful of times, because you're not
to be in a house with a bunch of other
guys and you're an oddball where you just don't fit
or get along with nobody. If that's the case, you're
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you're gone. One way or another, you're gone.
Speaker 11 (55:12):
So being a fireman in New York for eighteen years
and the brotherhood that you experienced there, you're forty three,
you're young, so you can take another job and work
another job if you wanted to. How do you work
in another environment after being a fireman that long and
with that type of camaraderie and shift to, for lack
(55:33):
of a better term, a civilian type of employment.
Speaker 9 (55:38):
Yeah, that's hard because you're never going to find the
same I guess you can say the same type of
family situation where like I knew everybody first first name,
we all hung out after work, we all did everything,
and you're not going to find that outside of something
like that. So it's like a culture shock. It's hard.
Speaker 2 (55:59):
I mean, yeah, did your retirement.
Speaker 11 (56:02):
Was there enough retirement that you could not work again
if you didn't want to.
Speaker 9 (56:08):
If I wait till I'm retirement age.
Speaker 11 (56:10):
Yes, okay, because you couldn't get your pitch in early, right,
I can, but it's not worth it, right right?
Speaker 2 (56:19):
So what, like, what type of jobs do you do now?
Speaker 15 (56:23):
Uh?
Speaker 9 (56:24):
Right now, I'm looking at a couple of different things.
I'm not really doing anything. I'm kind of just relaxing,
taking vacations and whatnot. But after I got out, I
went into the towing service and that was pretty pretty good.
But it's not for me.
Speaker 11 (56:42):
Listen, being a got tow truck driver is a I
wouldn't wish that upon people because you got to try
and deal with the highway and pick up cars in
the highway, which seems so crazy, as you know, as
a fireman plead people don't get out of the way
for a fire truck, and they definite ain't get in
the way out of the way for a tow truck.
Speaker 9 (56:59):
No reason I went into the tow truck stuff was
because I figured it was kind of the same type
of schedule because we would worked three days on, three
days off, four days on, four days off, so I'm
used to being up for a couple of days at
a time, so I kind of just went towards it
that because that's what they require, and I was like,
this ain't too bad, just I can't deal with the people.
Speaker 11 (57:22):
And I think we talked to someone who's a fireman
and they went on to do firemen for insurance companies
where they just go and sit at people's property during
wildfires to protect their property. Would you ever go into
something like that.
Speaker 9 (57:35):
If a founder came across something like that, I probably would, Yeah, because.
Speaker 11 (57:40):
You make a lot of dangerous of course, as it
always does, but this would be a short stint of
it and make pretty good contract money.
Speaker 9 (57:47):
I would think, right, probably, Yeah. I don't know how
they do that.
Speaker 11 (57:52):
But yeah, yeah, that to get out and then go Okay,
now what am I going to do has to be
a struggle that you deal with on a regular basis.
Speaker 9 (58:04):
Yeah, but that would be like with anything. When you
have a job for so long and you've done so
so much in that job, trying to find something that
matches at is always hard.
Speaker 2 (58:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 11 (58:15):
Yeah, Uh, tell me about what you do for fun?
Speaker 9 (58:18):
Then, well, I'm an outdoors guy, so I like to
be outdoors doing anything on the water, in the woods.
I don't care. I just like to be outside.
Speaker 2 (58:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 11 (58:31):
Well, right on, listen, William, it's been great talking to
you man. Thank you for sharing your story with us,
and it was a good conversation.
Speaker 2 (58:39):
Have a great day.
Speaker 9 (58:40):
Yeah you too.
Speaker 2 (58:41):
All Right, that's William. Our listeners are awesome. We're going
to take a break and we'll be back.
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Speaker 11 (58:51):
Lord A wife kills cheating husband while their children are
at home after he unexpectedly announced he was leaving with
his friends.
Speaker 2 (59:00):
Okay. Forty six year old woman.
Speaker 11 (59:03):
Plagged guilty this week to one count of murder in
the second degree with a firearm. She was sentenced to
spend twenty one years in prison, with two hundred and
eighty five days credited. Rohann Malcolm was shot several times
at the couple's home in South Florida after going grocery
shopping Labor Day for a Labor Day barbecue. Lashed August.
(59:26):
She did not trust him and was at her wits
end with his lies and deceit, the police said. The
sense condemned woman told police she knew about his unfaithful
behavior for roughly two years prior to the violence, and
that the Sunday afternoon shooting came in response to the
man's claim he was going out with friends. The woman
(59:47):
did not believe him. She went on to tell police
she and her husband slept in separate bedrooms and frequently
engaged in heated altercations due to his infidelity, had all
but broken up their marriage. He unexpectedly announced that he
was leaving to go to a friend's house. A nearly
(01:00:10):
hour long, heated argument ensued. The woman suspected her husband
was speaking in code that his friends were actually another woman.
Speaker 2 (01:00:23):
The end of the argument was ended with gunfire.
Speaker 11 (01:00:30):
The shooting occurred around six thirty pm, the couple's then
fourteen year old son dialed nine to one one After
hearing what he described as two or three loud bangs
while listening to music with headphones on, The boy ran
into his parents' bedroom saw his mom in the doorway
toting a gun while his father had visibly been shot
in the shoulder. Police arrived pretty fast, and within five
(01:00:52):
minutes after issuing verbal commands for the people inside to leave,
two twin boys came out, but not the adults because
she wasn't done. Moments after officers arrived, a loud bang
rang out the shot believed to have finally killed him.
Speaker 2 (01:01:09):
She wouldn't messing around.
Speaker 11 (01:01:10):
Yeah, police shouted for her to come out empty handed.
She considered taking her own life, but she decided against
doing so when her wounded husband said something to her
that made her stop her thoughts of suicide and shoot
him for a final time.
Speaker 2 (01:01:26):
Dang oh, I did he right? He asked for me
to end it for him like we have. He said
he was sorry.
Speaker 11 (01:01:37):
My thought was one of the mother bitches would have
shot me, something along the lines of probably.
Speaker 2 (01:01:43):
Like they were better than you.
Speaker 11 (01:01:45):
Right, Just something to twist the knife and she was like, yeah, terrible. Um,
she said something to made her stop her thoughts suicide.
After that last shot, she said he was not alive.
She then placed the semi automatic murder weapon on the
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bedroom dresser and walked outside to be arrested. The officers
injured the residence and found the victim lying on the
on his back in a bedroom with multiple gunshot wounds
to his body and blood pulling underneath him. The boy
who called nine to one one would later tell law
enforcement that he considered his parents estranged and that they
slept in separate bedrooms, and that the two frequently argued
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about his father's.
Speaker 2 (01:02:27):
Involvement with other women.
Speaker 11 (01:02:30):
There was a GoFundMe it's now been closed to raise
money for the victim's funeral. He was not just a friend,
a brother, or son. He was a beacon of light,
known for his kindness, laughter, and on wavering support for others. Dude,
I am not engaging in an argument for an hour
with anyone.
Speaker 12 (01:02:49):
Yeah, what are we talking about here? Fifteen twenty minutes max,
maybe thirty.
Speaker 11 (01:02:57):
I will pull the Hey, can we revisit this later
card pretty fast? Yeah, I'm with you in a domestic
altercation like that.
Speaker 2 (01:03:03):
After an hour, you're just talking in circles. After five minutes,
there's not much to be hashed. You're a cheater. No
I'm not.
Speaker 11 (01:03:13):
But you went that one time. Yeah, but you did this,
but then you did this. No, you misunderstood it for
an hour.
Speaker 2 (01:03:20):
You know what.
Speaker 12 (01:03:21):
I'm just gonna go to my friends and we can
talk about this later.
Speaker 11 (01:03:26):
Friend your friends, Oh friend, huh. And there's if there
if a sun thought they were a strange they were,
I mean they were together.
Speaker 2 (01:03:37):
Yeah, teenage boy. Yeah, he knew what's up.
Speaker 11 (01:03:40):
And they were too afraid or financially couldn't pull the
plug right.
Speaker 12 (01:03:45):
Maybe she just hope, I hope we can get this fixed.
But it sounds to me like and maybe he did.
Speaker 2 (01:03:51):
I don't know. But she was not letting go at
all whatsoever. I mean she was.
Speaker 11 (01:03:57):
It had been going on for two years. They were
sleeping in step bedrooms. Even if kids didn't think they
were together. She had let go. She just hadn't finally
let go, right, she was everything else was in place.
Speaker 2 (01:04:11):
Yeah like that.
Speaker 11 (01:04:14):
Sometimes I think in arguments that becomes like a drug. Okay,
like you gotta have that argument that that is the
only way affection happened, right, that was the intimacy. Yeah, yeah,
for both of them, for both of them to a
cage and when the crazy train ticket was offered and
you went on it. Because reality, what did she care
(01:04:37):
they were? They weren't together, right, Absolutely, she shouldn't care.
Speaker 2 (01:04:41):
They weren't together. They're sleeping in separate rooms.
Speaker 12 (01:04:43):
You know, they're not married at all whatsoever, They're just
living together for the sake of the children.
Speaker 13 (01:04:47):
Well, maybe she ended up missing him and it came
down to if I can't have you, no one will.
Speaker 11 (01:04:51):
Well that's not a good thing though. That's not a
good argument. I mean, but what we're saying is everything
was in place already.
Speaker 2 (01:04:57):
All she had to do is just pack up her things, leave.
Speaker 11 (01:05:00):
Or change the locks on him. He's not a good
dude either. I'm not defending him. I'm just saying that, like,
everything was already in place, so to now have vengeance.
Speaker 13 (01:05:10):
It sounded more like they were terrible communicators. Yeah, you
can't talk with a gun, But it sounded like she
did miss her husband, living in separate bedrooms and all
of that, she did want him back.
Speaker 2 (01:05:26):
I don't think so. If she wanted him back, you
wouldn't kill him. That is a true point.
Speaker 13 (01:05:33):
And she was driven to insanity, oh right.
Speaker 12 (01:05:35):
No, driven to insanity, no responsibility, it's.
Speaker 11 (01:05:40):
Not her fault, a woman's scorn, no adult human being.
Speaker 2 (01:05:47):
Right. She had the wherewithal to sleep in a separate.
Speaker 13 (01:05:49):
Bedroom, or maybe he moved out of the bedroom.
Speaker 12 (01:05:53):
Either way, they're not sleeping in the same room, right,
and she was okay with it.
Speaker 2 (01:05:57):
Why don't we just go with maybe she was on
her period. Maybe I like that.
Speaker 11 (01:06:01):
Let's start all the greatest hits out there. All right,
we got to take a break, we'll be back tell
us this morning show, so.
Speaker 2 (01:06:08):
We studio now. Is Jeff Heinsley of hinsleyan Associates. Good morning, Jeff, Hey,
good morning.
Speaker 11 (01:06:12):
He's here to answer any question you have about divorce, custody,
name changes, guardian chips, whatever family loss situation. Jeff and
the folks at Hinsley Associates can help and he's here
to answer your question right now. A couple of ways
to get your question to us. You can call at
eight three three four six oh kmod. You can text
it BMMS and whatever that question is to eight two
(01:06:32):
nine four five or email show at kmode dot com
like this one. Says, my brother asked me to be
guardian of his daughter if anything happens to him. But
the child's mom isn't really in the picture. Can she
block block it if she shows up later?
Speaker 3 (01:06:48):
Well, okay, so being asked, and I'm glad we bring
this up every now and then because it's it's important
and I think that, you know, people should understand it
because when I was younger, I didn't understand it. I
didn't understand it until he became a famoul attorney. So I
will tell you. You know, when you nominate somebody, when you
say they're going to be the guardian when something happens
to you, what that means is you're now nominating them
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in some form, whether it being a will or a
trust or you know, some sort of document that says
that if something should happen to me, then I am
nominating so and so to be the guardian. Now, obviously
that guardian has to be appropriate. In other words, you know,
no felons, no drug dealers, no, you know that kind
of stuff, murders, all that kind of deal. But when
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it comes to the other person being out, I mean
what happens is is if something happens there's notice given
out that guardianship has been filed, that so and so
has been nominated. They try their best to find mom
and serve mom, whether that be by personal service or
by a certified mail or a publication in a newspaper,
but they make sure that she's served. If she shows up,
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I mean, she can contest it. But at the end
of the day, if mom has not been around and
she's been completely absent, the chances of the judge not
graining the guardianship or fairly slim, simply because the judge
isn't going to give the child to somebody who hasn't
been around the child their entire life. You know, the
judge always has to look at the best interest of
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the child and what's in that child's best interest for
you know, health and future and all that kind of stuff.
So you know, it's good to nominate people. Obviously, that
helps in case something does happen. It takes that what happen,
you know, what if scenario out of it. But when
you've got a situation like this, she can always come
in contest, assuming she stays out of the picture. And
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even if something happens to you, maybe you serve her
and she goes, oh, well, glad he's dead, and then
moves on.
Speaker 2 (01:08:38):
I mean, you just never know.
Speaker 11 (01:08:40):
Can somebody show up at the hospital, God forbid the
person that dies and goes, I'm here to take care
of little Johnny because he said he wanted me to
take care of little Johnny.
Speaker 3 (01:08:51):
Well, it's more than just so and so said. I
mean again, if you've got to have something in writing,
I mean that's why you want to contact tunk tact
us and put it in a will. Let's put it
in a trust or something like that. Said, there's there's
a clear nomination as to what's going on as opposed.
Speaker 4 (01:09:06):
To will you know, sitting around drinking beers onenot. You know,
Johnny got real reflective and decided that he wanted to
nominate me in case something happened to him. You know
that that's one.
Speaker 2 (01:09:18):
You have a fantastic hick voice.
Speaker 3 (01:09:19):
That's it's a long practice.
Speaker 2 (01:09:22):
Man. I love King of Hill absolutely.
Speaker 3 (01:09:27):
I'm so excited that they brought it back and starting
back here shortly in August.
Speaker 2 (01:09:33):
Grown up Bobby is gonna be funny.
Speaker 3 (01:09:34):
But with that being said, uh, it's more than just
saying you've got to have it something in writing.
Speaker 2 (01:09:40):
I mean, that's why we call it a nomination. You know.
Speaker 3 (01:09:43):
Now, just because someone says, well, so and so said,
that doesn't mean.
Speaker 2 (01:09:46):
That person can't try to be a guardian.
Speaker 3 (01:09:48):
That's you know, they can always apply to be a guardian,
but that nomination is always nice to have as well.
Speaker 11 (01:09:54):
Jeffer Minsley Associates is in the studio and you can
email him show at kmod dot com. You can call
it nine I'm sorry eight three three four six O
KMOD or text BMMS and whatever the question is to
eight two nine four five. This says, can you end
regular child support when it's time if you still owe
back support?
Speaker 3 (01:10:13):
So what happens in those situations is is the current
support moving forward typically is extinguished, but the back support remains.
No interesting fact about back support.
Speaker 2 (01:10:26):
You know, you can.
Speaker 3 (01:10:27):
Always try and get the other side to waive all
back support. They're the only ones that have the power
to do that. Okay, So if you owe somebody money
for back support, they can choose to say, you know,
I don't want that back support.
Speaker 2 (01:10:37):
I don't want to mess with it.
Speaker 3 (01:10:38):
The caveat to that is is that if there's money
owed to the state for sooner care, tan f Wick,
things like that, and then that money is still owed
to the state. You can't get rid of that portion
of it. But you know that those are typically much
smaller portions than the large amount oded for back support.
So yeah, it's still owed. I mean, it doesn't just
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go away because the kid ages out. They continue to
collect on it until it's paid in full or the
other side agrees to erase it.
Speaker 11 (01:11:07):
So if you had you found out you had a
kid when they were ten and they were on Sooner
Care of their whole life, and then when they turned eighteen,
you wouldn't stop because you need to pay back the
state for Sooner Care or whatever for the previous right.
Speaker 2 (01:11:21):
But eight years, well no, not eight years, two years.
Speaker 3 (01:11:24):
So whenever an order gets put in place, the most
they can go back in time is two years if
there's no existing order from years here. So in your scenario,
if there was an order that came about when the
kid was born and they's supposed to be a collection
that entire time and it's unpaid, that's one thing. But
in the other part of your scenario, you say, well
you don't find out till they're ten, Well, the order
doesn't go in effect, until they're ten. The most they
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can do is go back two years. The law used
to be five years, and when it was five years,
the interest rate was ten percent rather than two years
and two percent, So only.
Speaker 11 (01:11:56):
Two years, so they don't find it. You can't be
liable for something you were unaware.
Speaker 3 (01:11:59):
Of, not long term, that's correct. I mean in the
old days it is as much as five years, but
now it's only two.
Speaker 2 (01:12:04):
Years, that's correct.
Speaker 11 (01:12:05):
Jefferm Heinsling Associates is here to answer your question about
family law. Any question you have, name change, custody, guardianships, adoptions.
He can answer any of those questions. This says, my
ex and I are both asking for full custody. How
does the judge decide who gets what when we can't agree?
Speaker 3 (01:12:24):
Well, I mean, let's talk about versus paternity. Okay, let's
say this is a divorce, all right. The law now says,
and case law says that judges have to start at
halftime and joint custody. That's where the judges have to start,
all right. So based upon the facts presented in the case,
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they can devolve to something different. Let's say, you know
how you can prove that the other side is unfit
by being a drug addict or an alcoholic, or you know,
something that may put the children in potential harm. You know,
there may be some deviations that way, but otherwise, in
a marriage situation, in a divorce situation, it's joint custody
and half time is where the judges start. Now, paternity cases,
a lot of judges will start there, but there's no
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statutory or case law requirement that they do. So there
was some cute and confusion about this up until about
six months ago when the Supreme Court of Oklahoma actually
handed down a ruling that said, no, it only applies
to divorces for that specific joint custody have time to
start mandate. But again, that doesn't mean that a lot
of judges don't start that way with paternity cases. It
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just depends on the county you're end, the judge you're
in front of, and you know the facts of the
case obviously, But in regards to dealing with with this
was the issue of you know, the judges here at testimony,
and that's the whole reason we have cases. Right If
you guys can't decide, if you can't do it's best
for your child and you're bickering and can't get along,
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then we put on a hearing and the judge takes
the existing facts that are presented to them and they
make a ruling and decide as to who's going to
have custody, and who's going to have visitation, and what
the visitation is going to look like and all those
kind of things. So you know, again, unless there's a
mandate by state law joint custody halftime, which is where
they have to start, then you know they can do
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whatever they want when regards to paternity cases and things
like that.
Speaker 2 (01:14:15):
So that's why we have judges.
Speaker 3 (01:14:16):
I mean, if you guys can't get along and understand,
and I tell this to everybody, and I think a
lot of attorneys do, is is that it's always better
if the parties are involved in the decision making for
their own cases. In other words, you know, that's why
we do mediation. It gives you some control as to
what happens with your the life of you, your ex
and your kids, all right. Otherwise, if you can't get along,
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you're going to turn it over to somebody in a
black bathrobe, and there's nothing about you, nothing about your ex,
nothing about your kids and has to make life altering
decisions based upon a few hours of testimony.
Speaker 11 (01:14:48):
So is it safe to say that they they they
don't want it to come to that.
Speaker 2 (01:14:53):
They want you to do mediation.
Speaker 11 (01:14:54):
They want you to try and figure it out before
the judge has to decide.
Speaker 2 (01:14:57):
Right, you know, I obviously I've been doing this a
long time.
Speaker 3 (01:15:03):
I have judges that I've known personally, meaning they were,
you know, previous people that I've had cases with. Or
I've got one that you know, we went to college together,
We've known each other thirty years, that kind of thing.
Speaker 2 (01:15:13):
And I will tell you that.
Speaker 3 (01:15:17):
The last thing a judge wants to have to do
is be a judge in the sense of, you know,
if you guys can make your own decisions, that's so
much better from your family than a judge having to
make a ruling. Honestly, it really is, because again, it
gives you some sort of control on what's going on.
Judges do what they do because they have to, because
that's their job. That's what they're there to do when
people can't get along. It's at least in the family
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law world, right, criminals different and things like that.
Speaker 2 (01:15:41):
But when you come to the family low world.
Speaker 3 (01:15:43):
The judges are there to help people make decisions when
they can't make their own. And so anytime you're involved
in making your own decisions and controlling your own destiny
with your family, that's so much better than leaving it
to somebody who you know is there to help but
would rather you do it yourself.
Speaker 2 (01:15:59):
Jeff is here from him in associates.
Speaker 11 (01:16:00):
You got a question for him about your divorce or
maybe custody, or maybe you found out you're going to
be a dad and you didn't think you were going
to be a dad. He can answer how some of
that's going to work? Eight three three four six. Oh, KMOD.
You can text BMMS and whatever that is to eight
two nine four five, or you can email show at
kmod dot com. This is during the divorce, I kept
my name, but now I've changed my mind. Can I
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still go back and switch it even after the divorce
is finalized?
Speaker 3 (01:16:27):
So once you're done, can you change your name?
Speaker 14 (01:16:29):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (01:16:30):
Absolutely, We just don't do it through the divorce decree.
Speaker 3 (01:16:32):
So, in other words, you don't file emotion to modify
or emotion to amend decree based upon the fact that
now you want to change your name. All right, we
can still do it. You just don't do it that way.
We just do a regular, you know, petition to change name.
Speaker 11 (01:16:45):
It's usually you guys, throw it in just like we're
already here. Let's go ahead and get that done, right.
Speaker 2 (01:16:49):
Right exactly. We do that, you know.
Speaker 3 (01:16:50):
We do that for kids' names in case people want
to change it then, especially in paternity cases when you
want to change the last name to the biological fathers
so they can get on the birth certificate, those.
Speaker 2 (01:17:00):
Sorts of things.
Speaker 3 (01:17:00):
But yeah, and name changes for ladies absolutely, or I
shouldn't say just ladies, okay, anybody who has changed their
last name because of the marriage. I've had one case
in my life where the husband changed his last name
to the wife's last name. Regardless, whoever wants to change
your name, we typically do it in the divorce decree. Yes, absolutely,
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Sometimes people change their minds later, which is fine too,
which is why we also do petitions to change name
after the fact. So if you've got this, please give
us a call. It's just a simple petition. We serve,
you know, give notice that it's happening, that you're not
trying to defraud creditors, and we change it and the
beauty about changing names after a divorce decree is this okay? See,
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during a divorce, you can only change it back to
your previous last name whatever that is. So if you've
been married three or four times and you've changed your
name every time, and if you've not always gone back
to your maiden name blah blah blah, you know, you
can only change it back to your previous name or
your very first maiden name kind of thing. Whereas after
the divorce, if you want to change your name to
you know, Sarah fill in the blank for the last same,
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we can do any last name you want as obviously,
as long as it's not vulgar and you know that
kind of thing. So yeah, a lot more options, a
lot more options after the fact if you want.
Speaker 2 (01:18:14):
To do it.
Speaker 11 (01:18:14):
Yees, would you say name change is one of the
easier family law things to do.
Speaker 3 (01:18:20):
I would say so, yeah, absolutely, it's one of the
easier things to do. Sure.
Speaker 11 (01:18:24):
Jefferminsley Associates is in the studio to answer your questions
about divorce and custody, in guardianship or adoption like this one.
It says, my wife and I adopted a baby last year,
but the birth mom is trying to contact us.
Speaker 2 (01:18:37):
Is there a chance she can undo the adoption.
Speaker 3 (01:18:40):
Only if she can prove frauder deceit in some way.
I mean, I don't know what the There is a
hole here, and the big glaring hole is is did
they have an agreement or was this where the rights
terminated through an adoption without consent?
Speaker 2 (01:18:53):
Hearing?
Speaker 3 (01:18:54):
You know, what's how did mom lose her rights? Did
she give them up voluntarily? Did they do it through
a option without consent and they found it it was
in the child's best interest not to be around mom
that sort of thing, or was it agreement that kind
of deal. There's a glaring hole here. But typically unless
you can prove fraud or deceit in some way, and
doing an adoption is very very difficult. But you know,
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let's say you've got a situation where it was an
open adoption. They didn't know who Buio mom was until
they met her and found she was pregnant, and then
I started giving her gifts and money and all that
stuff to grease the wheels, if you will, so she
would give up her rights. Okay, that's illegal. That kind
of junk is illegal. It's not allowed. And so if
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you can, if she can prove things like that, well.
Speaker 11 (01:19:39):
TV would lead us otherwise to believe otherwise that that happened,
which you say, don't trust that.
Speaker 2 (01:19:44):
You don't trust it.
Speaker 3 (01:19:45):
TV is evil when it comes to this stuff. The
thing about it is is because what it looks like
is the appearance of impropriety, like you're trying to buy
the baby from the mom by giving her stuff, giving
your money, all that kind of deal. So that's why
it's illegal. That's why it's not allowed.
Speaker 2 (01:20:04):
This is an interesting question. Somebody text in.
Speaker 11 (01:20:06):
Jeff Finsley from Hensley's Associates is here to answer your questions.
Speaker 2 (01:20:09):
Eight three three four six, Oh, KMOD is the phone number.
Speaker 11 (01:20:12):
You can email show at kmod dot com or you
can text BMMS and whatever that question is to eight
two nine four five Do I have to give my
kid my last name? They added to it that said
do I have to give give my kid my last
name or any name?
Speaker 2 (01:20:29):
Again?
Speaker 3 (01:20:29):
Holds are you married? Are you not married? Those kind
of things. Typically what's required is is that the child
takes on the last name of the parents. Is typically
how that's done. I'm gonna say I don't know the
answer to this.
Speaker 2 (01:20:45):
One. I've never had that pop up.
Speaker 3 (01:20:46):
In twenty years of doing this, I've never heard of
anything like that other than you know, some goofy sitcom
TV show episode. I would imagine you can give your
kid whatever name you want to give them, as long
as as the birth certificate says the parents are who
the parents are. Kind of thing. I don't know why
you would want to do that. I'm sure you have
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a very good reason. Hopefully it's not based upon the
goofy TV episode that I'm thinking of that kind of thing,
But could it be done. My gut instinct says yes,
as long as the birth certificate identifies the parents correctly.
Speaker 11 (01:21:21):
What does the state say about when their parents aren't married,
How do they decide?
Speaker 2 (01:21:26):
How does it decide who gets the name?
Speaker 3 (01:21:28):
So typically in those scenarios, when you've got a paternity
case of some sort, if dad is not there, they'll
typically give the last name of what mom's last name is,
because dad's not there to sign the birth certificate, norseia
there to sign the acknowledgment of paternity that the child
is his. Now, those things can be done after the fact.
We can go in and change those after the fact.
If we need to, but typically that's what happens. If
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the dad is not there, then it gets the mother's
last name.
Speaker 2 (01:21:53):
Usually Jeff is here from Hinsley and Associates.
Speaker 11 (01:21:56):
You have a question about divorce or custody or guardianship
and call us at eight three three four six oh KMOD.
You can email show at kmod dot com or text
BMMS and whatever your question is to eight two nine
four five. This says, my question has to do with guardianship.
I have guardianship of our grandson. Dad was absent for years.
Since the guardianship, he's come back into our grandson's life.
(01:22:17):
He doesn't want custody of him, but he doesn't want
to pay. He doesn't want custody of him, but doesn't
want to pay support. Mom is on drugs. Grandson is
months away from being eighteen. Is trying to emancipate and Tulsa,
but guardianship is in Kansas.
Speaker 2 (01:22:31):
Can he do that and he emancipate.
Speaker 11 (01:22:34):
Our county doesn't emancipate without strict guidelines.
Speaker 3 (01:22:38):
Well, no state emancipates without strict guidelines. Okay, so let's
talk about emancipation. I'm glad this pops up every once
in a Blue Moon. Understand when you see these TV
and movie star kids emancipate, understand they're already worth lots
of cash, lots of money. Okay, they don't go to
traditional schools, they don't have traditional per se. The reason
(01:23:03):
I bring this up is in Oklahoma to emancipate. And
I don't know why a kid would want to emancipate
a couple months out from being eighteen. That's just stupid
and waste time, but it's their life. When you emancipate,
you have to have certain things. You have to have
your own place to live, okay. You have to have
your own job okay, to support yourself. You can't rely
on other people giving you money. You have to have
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fund yourself to take care of yourself. You've got to,
you know, if you're not done with school, you've got
to complete school. And here's the kicker in Oklahoma, amongst
other things, is you have to have the permission of
the parents. So if the parents don't agree to an
emancipation in Oklahoma, it's not going to happen. The fact
that the guardianship is out of Kansas is not really
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relevant because the kid is a resident of Oklahoma now
it's just and of course that guardianship in Kansas is
going to be terminated once the kid turns eighteen. Anyway,
my advice would be is just see if the kid
will cool his jets and wait until he's eighteen in
a couple of months, because it's going to take a
couple of months to get the emancipation done anyway, particularly typically,
so you know, again, unless you can prove these things,
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there's no judge that's going to sign an emancipation order
just because you want to get away from, you know,
having rules at home. And that's typically what the calls
I get is is, well, I'm tired of you know, this,
this and this and my parents controlling it. Well, do
you have a job, Well, no, you know, do you
have do you have.
Speaker 2 (01:24:26):
Your own way? Do you have your own place to stay?
Speaker 4 (01:24:28):
No?
Speaker 3 (01:24:28):
You know, emancipation sounds fun, but unless you've got the
ability to take on the fact that at fifteen, you're
going to be an actual adult, which means you've got
to act like an adult.
Speaker 2 (01:24:40):
What do we do as adults?
Speaker 3 (01:24:41):
We have jobs, we have to live somewhere, we have
to take care of ourselves, those kind of things. So,
unless you know you're a kid and you want to
do that, and you're able to do that. And that's
why these rich you know, TV and movie stars can
do it, is because they've got the funding and all
that stuff to do it. They've already got mansions and
everything else they're living in. All Right, it's different. And
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again in Oklahoma, you have to have the permission of
your parents to emancipate.
Speaker 11 (01:25:07):
Jeff Heinsley from Hinsley and Associates is here this one.
I'm going to leave some stuff out on purpose.
Speaker 2 (01:25:14):
That's ominous.
Speaker 11 (01:25:14):
It says, uh, I'm stuck in court certain court. The
judge is retaliating against me for filing bar complaints. They
suspended my visitation until trial for unrational reasoning. I filed
a motion to reconsider with lots of proof that the
state that states it wasn't possible with the judge, with
(01:25:38):
what the judge was asking, how can I get my
daughter back? They have a lot of specifics in there
that I'm deliberately leaving out because I'm not going to
put a court or a judge on blast.
Speaker 3 (01:25:49):
I'm there's just not enough for me to answer. I mean,
I would literally have to pull the court file or
the going too OSCN and see what the court minutes
say and find exactly what's going on. Why are you
filing bar complaints? Why are you asking judge's recusal?
Speaker 11 (01:26:06):
I mean, there's a lot of holes and it sounds
like they're representing themselves right, which sounds like not a
great start.
Speaker 2 (01:26:12):
It's never a great start.
Speaker 3 (01:26:14):
Okay, you think it's going to be, you think it's
going to be, Oh, well, I can handle this again.
That would be like, you know, me going out and
trying to do a very specialized technical job of some
sort and then next thing I know, I'm missing an
arm because I screwed it up. I mean, it's the
same thing. We do this day in and day out.
I've done this for twenty years. I've got with all
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of my attorneys in my office now we have a
total of over seventy years of combined experience doing this
day in and day out. And so with that being said,
you know, you want to give us a call when
you've got these issues. You don't want to represent yourself
because obviously there's something going on that's misunderstood about what's
happening with the judge and in the courtroom, and we
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need to find out.
Speaker 2 (01:26:55):
What that is.
Speaker 3 (01:26:55):
Whoever this is, please feel free to give me give
us a call up my office. One of us can
talk to you about what's going on. But at the
same time too, when you represent yourself and you don't
know what the law is, you don't practice this, you
weren't taught it. You know, reading the statutes you know,
and trying to figure it out is difficult.
Speaker 2 (01:27:11):
Case laws.
Speaker 3 (01:27:12):
Same way when you start bringing in things like you know,
US federal law to a state court and all that
which I've seen pro says do, that's when you gan
is some some dangerous areas. So please, if you got
these issues, don't represent yourself, please give us a call.
Speaker 2 (01:27:26):
We'd be happy to help you out.
Speaker 11 (01:27:28):
You've mentioned before, you can be pro se if you
would like, But keep in mind they the judges then
expect you to act as if you have exactly exactly
do all the attorneys right.
Speaker 2 (01:27:38):
You don't get a break.
Speaker 3 (01:27:39):
I mean, if you think you're gonna get a break
because oh, I'm pro se and i don't know what
I'm doing, and you know I've never done this before,
and I'm sorry, judge, because that doesn't matter. You're going
to be held to the exact same standard as a
practicing attorney who has a license in the state of
Oklahoma who may or may not have been doing this
like me for twenty years. Okay, you're going to be
held to that exact same standard. And every time you
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goof up, the judge's gonna hold you your feet to
the fire on that. Every time you file something you
shouldn't have and it's denied, you know, again, you're gonna
be held to the exact same standard. That's what the
law requires. And that's true in every single state. If
you're gonna be pro SAE, So understand, if you're gonna
do it, fine, but understand you're gonna be held to
the same standard.
Speaker 2 (01:28:19):
And typically that's not a good idea.
Speaker 11 (01:28:21):
What if they're not pro se and their attorney is
doing some things that isn't up to par and causing
the problems.
Speaker 3 (01:28:28):
Well, first of all, I always tell people if you're
unhappy with your attorney, talk to them, all right, This
is my first suggestion is always sit down and talk
with them, you know, don't just call them and try
to get a hold of them. Schedule an actual time
to talk to them face to face or on the phone.
Or whatever it may be about what your concerns are.
That way they know exactly what needs to be addressed
so they can so they can make things right and
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get it taken care of. If at that point it's
not done all right and you're still unhappy, then you
would want to try to find a new attorney. And
of course you can give us a call. We'd be
happy to talk to you about your case. But the
main thing is is always talk to the attorney first
before you start getting upset and just out of the blue,
you know, take off or threaten them or something.
Speaker 2 (01:29:07):
Please talk to them and then you.
Speaker 3 (01:29:09):
Know if your concerns are not addressed, and then go
looking for an jorney.
Speaker 11 (01:29:13):
Make sure you get representation that can help you when
you're dealing with your family law situation, and the folks
in Hinsley Associates are just that, and make sure you
give him a call at nine eight three nine five
six nine two for hinsleyan Associates mentioned kmode get a
free consultation of the phone, explain your situation. You can
give more details and maybe you can give a better
answer that caters specifically to your problem. Nine eight five
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six nine two for Hensley Associates, and if you're outside
family law and need some help, Jeff and the folks
at Hinsley Associates can help with that.
Speaker 3 (01:29:42):
Absolutely so through our office in Pahusca. It's the Shoemake
Law Firm. Yes it is a different name, but it
is us. We just left the name when we took
it over. Give Sam Allison a call up there. He
does a great job. Anything in addition to family law
up there or any place in the state. If you've
got a you know, a dui, a speeding ticket, if
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there and have you talk to Sam and he can
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Speaker 11 (01:30:27):
Of nine three nine eight five six nine two for
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Speaker 2 (01:30:31):
Hey you too, Thank you back.
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Speaker 11 (01:38:20):
Toll free eight three three four six, okmod. I always
love when we come across stories about researchers. Instead of
focusing on cancer, they focus on other silly things like this.
Researchers in Vancouver have decided to explore the phenomenon of
(01:38:43):
life flashing before.
Speaker 2 (01:38:44):
Your eyes prior to death.
Speaker 11 (01:38:47):
Okay, I don't know how they do this, but it
says they use data from a patient who had a
heart attack and died while undergoing a scan. For scientists,
this is a rare opportunity to reward the brain at
the moment of death. What they found was that the
patient's brain went through a series of gamma oscillations before death,
(01:39:09):
which are quote linked to retrieval of memories and dreaming
end quote. It suggests that the brain may have been
taking a stroll down memory lane before finally calling it
a lifetime. I am of the camp that I don't
believe that your life flashes before your eyes like that.
(01:39:32):
I think this is something we do to try to
romanticize death because like we say, oh he went peacefully
in his sleep, or we don't know he died of
natural causes. Yeah, it's natural to die.
Speaker 2 (01:39:49):
Cocaine's natural.
Speaker 13 (01:39:53):
My mom's boyfriend he had a heart attack and he
had a stroke once and he when he was in
the hospital he had a open heart surgery, died on
the table three different times. And he said that he
(01:40:13):
remembers all he remembers from that moment was seeing his dad,
who had since passed away, and he was shaking his
head no at him when he saw him. And then
he came to and there was doctors and nurses all
around him bringing him back to life, and he felt
(01:40:36):
like it was his dad saying, it's not your time.
Sure you're you're not ready.
Speaker 11 (01:40:40):
I would imagine in those moments, you have moments like
that that feel that way.
Speaker 13 (01:40:44):
But he didn't die, No, he did not, So we
don't know, right, but lost him, We lost it. We
would bring you back three times during your surgery.
Speaker 2 (01:40:54):
Yeah, amazing story.
Speaker 12 (01:40:57):
I wouldn't doubt that. It like proverbially flashes behind. But
like they said in the article, you know you're just
bringing up memories. You know, probably your body knows you're dying.
Your brain knows you're dying, right, so it probably I
don't know. I'm not a scientist, but I could see
it happen. And where it's like, just start remembering everything
(01:41:17):
that's ever not maybe not everything because that's a lot,
you know, depending on when you die, but uh, start
remembering a lot of things, maybe spanning all the way
back to your your childhood, yeah, and then up to
current and then the.
Speaker 11 (01:41:32):
Yeah, I don't think it does that. How long would
all that take? I would think a while, right, Yeah?
And I think the example they have of the person
getting a scan, maybe they were dreaming, they dreaming already, yeah,
possibly right, Rather maybe that that was already happening, like
when you're sitting at a stop line and you just
kind of think about stuff. If you're getting a brain scan,
(01:41:53):
you're probably laying there like DEEPIDRP deep and dorpe, Yeah,
thinking about things. And again, the other part of the
this is that we're u This suggests that the brain
may have been taking a stroll down memory may right
does it mean it? And then the other one uh
linked to the retrieval linked not does linked?
Speaker 2 (01:42:15):
A lot of there'sn't some vague words.
Speaker 12 (01:42:17):
Right, Well, I mean, they haven't gone and done enough
studying of it yet. This is a preliminary so they're
just basing what they've found off of knowledge of what
they already have.
Speaker 11 (01:42:30):
No, I understand that, but they're not they're not saying
with certainty. They're not saying it does well.
Speaker 12 (01:42:33):
You can't say it was certainty yet because they haven't
proved it yet. They're still working on that orbon no.
Speaker 11 (01:42:38):
But they're saying flashed before your eyes. They're trying to
push a narrative. They're not saying the other things it's
linked to.
Speaker 2 (01:42:45):
Okay, what other things are I don't know.
Speaker 11 (01:42:47):
That's but that's what I'm saying. They're saying it's linked
to a possible outcome. They're not saying what it's linked to,
the other to the other things that it could be. Right,
they're only giving one answer.
Speaker 12 (01:42:56):
Yeah, maybe, I don't know. I think if you want
to believe it, go for it. Sure, whatever makes you feel.
Speaker 2 (01:43:01):
S sure, go ahead. If you want to believe your
aunts or uncle, go ahead. Yeah, it's completely fine. That's
where we're at in the world nowadays.
Speaker 11 (01:43:06):
Dammy, whatever, we're more people just want to believe any bulls.
They want to right, and other facts don't mean anything
to people anymore. No, man, all right, we got to
take a break.
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Speaker 11 (01:43:27):
When we come across stories about researchers, instead of focusing
on cancer, they focus on other silly things like this.
Researchers in Vancouver have decided to explore the phenomenon of
life flashing before your eyes prior to death. Okay, don't
I don't know how they do this, but says they
use data from a patient who had a heart attack
(01:43:49):
and died while undergoing a scan. For scientists, this is
a rare opportunity to record the brain at the moment
of death. What they found was that the patient's brain
went through a series of gamma oscillations before death, which
are quote linked to retrieval of memories and dreaming end quote.
(01:44:10):
It suggests that the brain may have been taking a
stroll down memory lane before finally calling it a lifetime.
I am of the camp that I don't believe that
your life flashes before your eyes like that. I think
this is something we do to try to romanticize death,
(01:44:33):
because like we say, oh he went peacefully in his sleep,
or we don't know he died of natural causes.
Speaker 2 (01:44:42):
Yeah, it's natural to die. Cocaine's natural.
Speaker 13 (01:44:48):
My mom's boyfriend he had a heart attack and he
had a stroke once and he when he was in
the hospital he had had a open heart surgery, died
on the table three different times. And he said that
he remembers all he remembers from that moment was seeing
(01:45:13):
his dad, who had since passed away, and he was
shaking his head no at him when he saw him.
And then he came to and there was doctors and
nurses all around him bringing him back to life, and
he felt like it was his dad saying, it's not
your time. Sure, you're not ready.
Speaker 11 (01:45:35):
I would imagine in those moments, you have moments like
that that feel that way. But he didn't die, No,
he did not, So we don't.
Speaker 13 (01:45:42):
Know, right, but we lost him, We lost it. We
would bring you back three times during your surgery.
Speaker 2 (01:45:49):
Yeah, amazing story.
Speaker 12 (01:45:52):
I wouldn't doubt that. It like proverbially flashes behind. But
like they said in the article, you know you're just
bringing up memories. You know, probably your body knows you're dying.
Your brain knows you're dying, right, so it probably I
don't know. I'm not a scientist, but I could see
it happen. And where it's like, just start remembering everything
(01:46:12):
that's ever not maybe not everything because that's a lot,
you know, depending on when you die, but uh, start
remembering a lot of things, maybe spanning all the way
back to your your childhood, yeah, and then up to
current and then.
Speaker 11 (01:46:25):
The Yeah, I don't think it does that. How long
would all that take? I would think a while, right, yeah?
And I think the example they have of the person
getting a scan, maybe they were dreaming, they dreaming already yeah,
possibly right, Rather maybe that that was already happening, like
when you're sitting out a stop line and you just
kind of think about stuff. If you're getting a brain scan,
(01:46:48):
you're probably laying there like deep and dorp deep and dirpe, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:46:51):
Thinking about things.
Speaker 11 (01:46:53):
And again the other part of this is that were
this suggests that the brain may have been taking stroll
down memory may right?
Speaker 2 (01:47:03):
Does it mean it?
Speaker 11 (01:47:04):
And then the other one uh linked to the retrieval
linked not does linked? A lot of there isn't some
vague words.
Speaker 12 (01:47:12):
Right, well, I mean they haven't gone and done enough
studying of it. Yet this is a preliminary so they're
just basing what they've found off of knowledge of what
they already have.
Speaker 11 (01:47:25):
No, I understand that, but they're they're not saying with certainty.
They're not saying it does well, you.
Speaker 12 (01:47:28):
Can't say it with certainty yet because they haven't proved
it yet. They're still working on that orbon no.
Speaker 11 (01:47:33):
But they're saying flashed before your eyes. They're trying to
push a narrative. They're not saying the other things it's
linked to. Okay, what other things are I don't know.
That's but that's what I'm saying. They're saying it's linked
to a possible outcome. They're not saying what it's linked to,
the other to the other things that it could be. Right,
they're only giving one answer.
Speaker 12 (01:47:51):
Yeah, maybe, I don't know. I think if you want
to believe it, go for it. Sure, whatever makes you
feel sa, sure.
Speaker 2 (01:47:56):
Go ahead. If you want to believe your aunts, your uncle,
go ahead. Yeah, it's completely fine. That's where we're at
the world nowadays.
Speaker 11 (01:48:01):
Dammy, whatever, we're more people just want to believe any
bulls they want to right, and the facts don't mean
anything to people anymore. No man, all right, we got
to take a break.
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Remember ocean Gate? Oh yeah, Lindsay, do you remember ocean Gate?
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Not really uh, kind of a big deal.
Speaker 11 (04:19):
It was the guy who tried to take his homemade
sub down to the Titanic, right oh yeah, yeah, and
it imploded and killed everyone and some of the everybody
was like.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
Ah, I was kind of weird.
Speaker 11 (04:30):
He was kind of you know, not cheap, but he
was trying to do it in an efficient way. He
had a N sixty four controller as the controller for
that's not a joke, by the way, that that's the truth.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
Anyway.
Speaker 11 (04:42):
The documentary has come out on Netflix. Holy cow, this
guy's dumb.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
Oh yeah, it's fan.
Speaker 11 (04:47):
The documentary is so well done. You can hear like
the cracks and pops. I mean it sounds so scary,
maybe because we know the fate. But like one of
the things as he did was he wanted to use
carbon filler instead of steel, and carbon's really cheap, but
it's not a good it's not known for being good
(05:09):
under pressure like that, and he anybody who tried to
question him, he just was like, you're fired, not even questioned, like, hey, boss,
I think this is that you're fired with that.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
It's gonna this is a dick thing to say. But
with that being said, kind.
Speaker 12 (05:28):
Of got what he deserved, right If other people are
stepping in like, hey, this is not a good filler,
you need to use something else. You're going to the
bottom of the ocean. You want to see the typ tanic,
it's going to crush under pressure. Yeah, whatever, it's my job,
my way or the highway.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
You're fired. I feel like kind of got what he deserves. Yeah,
I don't know, I don't I know.
Speaker 11 (05:48):
I'm thinking I'm ready to go out on a lemon
and say, if you're short tempered or a dick, you
should just die.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
Well I mean die.
Speaker 12 (05:56):
I mean that's an extreme end of it, but I
mean he he didn't heed the warnings.
Speaker 13 (06:01):
Right exactly, and the people he took down with him.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
I mean.
Speaker 11 (06:06):
It's kind of a I mean they also kind of
had to know who the hell gets in a It's
like if Gimpy was like, hey, I made a plane,
do you want to go up in? And I go no, dude,
I don't nothing against Gimpy. Yeah, nothing against Gimpy. I
just I'm gonna go with no. I don't trust him
(06:28):
in the aviation world.
Speaker 12 (06:29):
I have never built a plane before. And I don't
know if this guy you watched the documentary, has he
ever built submarines before?
Speaker 2 (06:36):
No? Not like whatever.
Speaker 11 (06:38):
No, So we'll hold it. Okay, Okay, I love that
we're piecing this together. What if Gimpy had tried to
build an airplane for a long time? Okay, that's like
the ten years. Okay, you could make the statement he
is a aviation expert.
Speaker 12 (06:58):
Sure, No, No, you cannot. No, you cannot, because the
key word in that statement there Corbyn is tried. He
could not successfully build anything. It didn't get off the ground.
He's been trying to.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Build an airplane for the past ten years.
Speaker 11 (07:15):
So we say, if you make it to an open
mic night, you're a comedian. Yeah, and that's trying there's
no resistance to be on an open mic night.
Speaker 12 (07:24):
Oh absolutely not. However, there's some success there. Did you
go to opening the mic night and die? No, he didn't.
To a few bad jokes. You learned your lesson from
last time.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
I'm sure he put it in the water and no
water seat thin.
Speaker 12 (07:40):
Absolutely yes, you need a little more than an Olympic
science pool to really get a testing.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
And I'm sure he went submerged and it was fine.
I'm sure.
Speaker 11 (07:49):
I'm just saying like, at some point, how do you
filter the process of like a he knows, what's the
barometer of measurement?
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 12 (08:01):
I think if you take it out to the lake.
The pressure in a lake is way different than the
pressure and the ocean.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
Not even that near the Titanic, right, real man?
Speaker 12 (08:13):
So it's like it's the cynical thing to say, yes,
But I feel like he had all the opportunities to,
I don't know, do it the right way.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
Maybe get some.
Speaker 12 (08:22):
Other people involved who who really know how to build
submercibles and and what materials you're supposed to use and
da da da dad. But I don't know, I haven't,
I haven't haven't gotten into it. Maybe he did.
Speaker 13 (08:35):
It wasn't the time to cut corners.
Speaker 11 (08:37):
No, something like people cut corners and everything. So to me,
the cutting corners part isn't the crazy thing. To me,
the people that went on and he killed innocently, should
they have known better? I don't know hindsight's twenty twenty,
but if he had been doing it for a long time,
I'm sure they trusted him. I'm sure they had no
reason to not trust him. He could have been a
(08:58):
great salesman. And me personally, I just had this conversation
with my sister and now I just don't trust people.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
So even if you're like, hey, I.
Speaker 11 (09:06):
Build sumercibles and it's an unnecessary risk in life, I'm like,
I'm hard pass.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Yeah. Has he built submersibles before? Was this the first one?
Speaker 11 (09:15):
I mean I think he had different versions of this one,
if I remember correctly, Right in each one, you try
to make a little bit better.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
People that build canoes, we go right out and get
in the canoe. Right.
Speaker 12 (09:24):
Yeah, absolutely, But I'm sure the first canoe, the first
tree that was hollowed out, you know, may not have
been that good.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
And then they learned their lesson.
Speaker 12 (09:34):
They didn't die, you know, they just swamed ashore, and
I was like, all right, well, see those little holes
down there, we don't need those in there anymore.
Speaker 14 (09:42):
R Right.
Speaker 11 (09:43):
But if you go to the guy and he's like, hey,
you want to go ride my canoe? How many of
you built? I built one, but this one it didn't work,
but this one's better, or he just goes, I've built
one before you go, Okay, yeah, I'm good.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
No, I'm with you.
Speaker 11 (09:59):
I just don't trust people at all. I've read too
many books about people being Charlton's I bet I. People
are constantly trying to trick people for the wrong reasons, right,
And so I just don't trust people in general when
it comes to a lot of things. And so if
you're like, hey, you want to go down to the Titanic,
(10:19):
I go, dude, we just met on Facebook for real?
Speaker 2 (10:23):
No, No, I don't know you. Hey do you want
to go ride my canoe? Hell no, I don't. I
don't even.
Speaker 11 (10:28):
Trust the people that have the uh they've been in
business for eighteen years in Kazumel and are putting you
on a repelled line up to the sky, you know,
and they might even have insurance. Right, how do you
even go about finding the guy in the art By
the way, in the documentary he talks about, uh, he
wanted to take pearl jam because he loves pearl.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
This is not a joke. And he.
Speaker 11 (10:54):
Was like no, yeah, And he was a he was
a came from a rich line of family, so he
had money, right, so he just thought he could have
access to anyone.
Speaker 12 (11:04):
Yeah, you'd think if you've got the money, you would
go and use the proper resources, you know what I mean,
instead of Hey, I've got this idea, instead of putting
it together yourself. I've got this idea, I have the
money to fund it. Let's go find some experts who
have built, you know, submarines that can withstand that kind
(11:24):
of pressure. Let's get them in on it. I mean,
he mighty is no object that shouldn't be shouldn't be
a problem.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
Well, two things.
Speaker 11 (11:31):
One, I think it's a myth that people that have
a lot of money aren't careful with their money.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
Oh no, for sure, as possible.
Speaker 11 (11:38):
Yeah, yeah, you try to be as frugal as possible
even when you have that much money. Right, you may
not be frugal when you have your seven towns buying
a seventh hous but you may not, you know, use
glitten paint.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
You might use well paint.
Speaker 11 (11:50):
You see what I'm saying. So I think people are
still frugal when they have money. The other thing is
rich people all the time are trying to prove that
they're worth right, especially people that are just handed money.
Look at the movie Fox Catcher played by Steve Carrell,
uh and he was so bent on trying to prove
he was a brilliant person. He tried to coach an
(12:11):
Olympic wrestling team, didn't know anything about wrestling, and became
obsessed about it, crazy like serial killer crazy right, right,
and he ended up killing somebody in the process. So
you could rich people are constantly trying to be like,
I'm damn it, I'm worth something, right, I've done a
good job.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
I get that.
Speaker 12 (12:31):
Like me think of it like this, Like Elon Musk
didn't go and get a bunch of jagobs to build
his rockets right to send him into space. Now, granted
a few of them have blown up, but same thing
with NASA. NASA's lost quite a few rockets. And that's national,
not just a private guy. You see what I'm saying.
Speaker 11 (12:48):
I think I think he is the classic example of
trying to get people to like him proven his ye right.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
Yeah, you're probably right on that.
Speaker 12 (12:55):
But he's not going to get in just a bunch
of you know, d students trying to you know, you know,
build rock and no, he's getting people who knows what
they're doing, and when they push back against him, he
fires them.
Speaker 11 (13:04):
That is a it's well documented through the history of him,
and that's his business. He can do that.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
But these are the same guys doing the same thing.
Speaker 13 (13:11):
But wasn't he firing the people that worked at Twitter
or x Now it wasn't nice.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
When he took it over he did. That was different.
Speaker 11 (13:19):
But anybody who has pushed back with him, you can
read any of the stuff about people that have worked
for him and they came back and like, hey, this
isn't a good idea, and he would go, wait, you
don't think it can be done, You're fired, right. So
to me, this is a common story across people that
are by the way, he's created some pretty amazing things
and it's still not enough, right, And some people even
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argue that Tesla ain't a great product. Yeah, so six
and this half a dozen to the other. But in
case of the Ocean Gate. The documentary is awesome. It
is worth watching. It's worth watching just from a human
standpoint of like, because we know that we know the
end right right. Part of the reason that the movie
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Titanic is so good is you knew what was gonna happen, right.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
There's no alternate ending.
Speaker 11 (14:07):
No, No, they had to sink that boat in that movie.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
Yeah. The only fact about that.
Speaker 11 (14:13):
Movie is the boat sank, and the rest is all
made up, exactly.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
Everything is made up.
Speaker 13 (14:19):
The only thing that didn't have to happen was she
could have moved her ass over on that door and
he could have fit on it. He didn't have to die.
Speaker 12 (14:27):
Maybe he wanted to. Yeah, I'm tired of this fat cow.
I'm out here, all right.
Speaker 11 (14:33):
We got to take a break. We've got tickets to
duf Leppard we're gonna give away.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
We'll be back.
Speaker 15 (14:37):
More of The Big Man Morning Show is next ninety MD.
Speaker 13 (14:43):
Welcome back. It's The Big Man Morning Show in ninety
seven five k m D. I'm Lindsay and Gimpy.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
Hey, good morning. I think Orman had to go to
the bathroom. So it's all good.
Speaker 12 (14:56):
It's all good. It ain't nothing to take care of here.
So what we're gonna do is I'm wanting to try
to figure out what we got going on on his
side of the screen, Okay, and then we'll just kind
of go from there.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
That's that's all that we can do about. And let's
see here.
Speaker 12 (15:10):
We've got news quikies around here somewhere, news quikies where
you went. Let's see here, lindsay, here we go.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
There we go, He'll find it.
Speaker 11 (15:28):
Oh right, yeah, okay. The news quikies are stories you
may have missed in the news.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
We call them here.
Speaker 11 (15:34):
We'll get started on our Facebook page at facebook dot com.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
Slash people, it's time for newsquakies.
Speaker 12 (15:41):
World news, local news and news that just makes you say,
what the Here's Corbyn?
Speaker 2 (15:46):
Gimmee and lindsay with what's going on? Newsquakies from the
Big nd Morning showing ninety seven.
Speaker 13 (15:50):
Five festival rockers told to take off their smart watches.
So this happened in Leicestershire, England. When hundreds of emergency
calls came in from fans at the Download Festival two
years ago. The emergency services must have thought a disaster
was unfolding at the three day heavy metal gig. In fact,
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The calls were made automatically from smart watches and other
devices worn by fans because the tech assumed that people
in mash pits had been in a collision. So now
the police there say people have to either take them
off or put them in airplane mode, because the force
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is appealing to those attending the festival this weekend to
turn their devices to airplane mode to avoid the unnecessary
nine nine calls. The number of nine to nine to
nine calls during the event doubled from the usual six
hundred or so over a long weekend in previous years.
Due to wearable tech issues. We saw a rise of
nearly seven hundred extra calls in the weekend police set
(16:58):
on social media. All those calls had to be assessed
to ensure that there is no real threat, risk or harm.
We take our contact handlers away from answering true emergency
calls when we show up. Police are asking fans to
stay on the line if their device makes an accidental call,
or to answer callbacks made by emergency teams to let
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us know that they are safe. According to one US
personal injury law firm, mosh pits always have risks and dangers,
but can also result in enjoyable chaos and energy release.
Some wearable technology includes a crash detection feature, and Apple
says it's watches and some iPhones will sound an alarm
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and display an alert if they detect a severe car crash.
Unless the alert is canceled, the device calls the emergency
services after a thirty second countdown.
Speaker 11 (17:50):
It feels like a marketing technique to promote the Cup festival. Hmm,
could be listen to the lineup Green Day, Weezer, Jimmy World,
Shine Down, Corn Sleep Token, a bullet from my Valentine
with sugar like that to me that it's not like
there was some crazy more than normal amount of.
Speaker 12 (18:14):
Washing right the same as it as any music festival,
rock festival.
Speaker 11 (18:19):
Yes, yes, So it feels like a way to promote,
like we have more washing at this festival. I guess
it could kind of make sense though, Like I know,
if I shake my phone three times, at least there's
a setting in there that I can shake my phone
three times and it'll send a pin of where I'm
at to whomever, kind of like y'all's crash detection sort
of thing. So I guess if you're slamming around, but
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is there really enough pressure, you know, washing around and
slamming into people that could cause that to go off
enough that you have to tell everyone like take again.
Feels like a marketing move.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
Who knows?
Speaker 12 (18:52):
Maybe so mannic used a blowing up a casino toilets
hand right, you can eat. So this comes out of Pittsburgh, right,
I think it was just last week or whatever. There's
this guy, he's forty seven, his name's Jeremy Hartman. He
goes to the River's Casino. Now, this is like five
forty in the morning on a Sunday, right, and he
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sneaks into this closed restaurant, right, and he's trying to
steal some liquor total him about four thousand dollars.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
Right.
Speaker 12 (19:27):
Well, he gets caught obviously, and they taken him. Security's
taking him to a secured area to figure out what
they're gonna do with this game.
Speaker 13 (19:35):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 12 (19:35):
And on his way to the secured area, he's like,
I gotta got the bathroom.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
So they're like, I finally, go ahead, go to the bathroom.
Speaker 12 (19:44):
So he goes into the bathroom and he takes what
they're calling is a commercial grade firework and it lights it,
shoves it into the toilet, and the toilet blows up,
and I guess there was a casino employee in the
bathroom at the same time suffered minor injuries.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
Is what he's said.
Speaker 12 (20:03):
They went ahead and grabbed that guy, called the police out.
They had searched his car, they found more fireworks and
now they got to call the bomb squad out. And
bomb squad does a sweep of his car in a
parking lot, don't find anything else. They went ahead and
took this cat in on a slew of charges. This
is this two felony charges of arson, endangering persons single
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fell in, a charge of theft, receiving stolen property and
risk risking a catastrophe, and misdemeanor charges of reckless endangering
another person and criminal mischief.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
Grow up for real.
Speaker 11 (20:41):
I get blowing stuff up's fun, but to take it
into an establishment. Were people that don't want to participate
in that. Do it at your camper man.
Speaker 12 (20:50):
Right, blow up your own damn toilets the wild, Grow
up real.
Speaker 11 (20:57):
Billionaires swallows b and die. Prince william Is Morning the
loss of a friend who died last week after swallowing
a bee at a polo match. Sunjay Coepar collapsed during
the match in the UK, apparently after going into anthyletic
shock and suffering a heart attack. The billionaire businessman was
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fifty three. When I read the headline, I thought he
was like he nothing can stop me and took a
B and ate it.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
That's not what happened. No, he's just playing and a B.
He's like, did I just swallow a bee? And then
he did something. Wow.
Speaker 12 (21:29):
I wonder if he knew he was allergic to bees
before that.
Speaker 11 (21:33):
So apparently it's a very small percentage of people that
will go into shock like that from a beasting, and
it's probably an even smaller percentage that will swallow a
bee in the air.
Speaker 12 (21:43):
Right, that's the final destination stuff. Right in the movie,
see him out there playing soccer and they're kicking the
ball around and then you see coming from above a bee.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
And then into his mouth. An.
Speaker 13 (21:57):
I wondered if an E and EpiPen would have saved him.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
Absolutely it would have.
Speaker 11 (22:01):
But if you don't know you're allergic, you don't carry
what true, Well, most people don't even go and have
themselves checked for allergies.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
Yes, it's true.
Speaker 13 (22:10):
You would think if they were on a golf.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
Course, not a golf course them.
Speaker 13 (22:16):
You would think though that being there there's people around
and maybe some.
Speaker 11 (22:20):
My eppie pen might not help europe your Situationpens the
device of which the medicine is delivered. An EpiPen isn't
just a it isn't a tissue. So your g is
allergic to peanuts? Peanuts, And how did you find that out?
Did you give her some peanut butter and she started
to break out in hives or so funny thing. I mean,
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we did give her peanut butter, and and she ate strawberries.
This is she had have been three, okay, And I
noticed she ate lunch and then I changed her diaper
or whatever, maybe even.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
Less than them. She was three. She wasn't in dire anyway.
Speaker 11 (22:58):
And uh, I saw a reaction on her chest, and
I was like, that doesn't look right, okay, And I
thought it was the strawberries, and so we made an appointment.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
She went to the doctor.
Speaker 11 (23:08):
They did a test and they're like, oh no, she's
a little deathly allergic to peanut butter.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
Oh wow.
Speaker 11 (23:13):
And so that's when kind of it wasn't the strawberries.
It must have been the peanut butter and jelly sandwich
got it, and then we did more testing because we
found like she was getting we just did the peanut butter,
and then we found like she was getting having trouble
seeing during the day at school and a kid, so
she's not really explaining her symptoms accurately, and her allergies
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were so bad it was causing her to get a
headache and not.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
See very well. Wow, And so we found.
Speaker 11 (23:42):
She's pretty intensely has allergies more than the common joe
and has to get allergy shots.
Speaker 12 (23:49):
And only the reason I asked because I feel like
because you were like, not a lot of people. Most
people don't. I've never been tested for allergies or stuff.
I think that's like a reactionary sort of thing. You
don't do it until after the fact, you know, somebody
has peanut butter. It's yeah, yeah, maybe we should start doing.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
But I guess I don't know. Can you can you
do that? Yeah?
Speaker 11 (24:12):
Can you go in ahead of time without you know,
I want to see what I'm allergic to? You not
out By the way, not all allergy places are the same, right,
Some allergy places you go in and they just do
the test on the back and.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
Wait and you see.
Speaker 11 (24:26):
Okay, some do a blood test, which is far more accurate,
and some places feel a little like, you know, sleep abnea,
you test your sleep abnea. Boom, you got it. I
don't know anybody who's ever been turned away to sleep
apnea testing.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
Right, Ain't that the truth? Yeah?
Speaker 16 (24:42):
I don't.
Speaker 12 (24:42):
I think this sounds like a horrible place to work,
to be honest with you, because I just imagine like
an office building, right, and they've got like all kinds
of cats and dogs and like you know, peanut butter
and like you know, all liquid form, right, all the
allergic allergy stuff is just in one building.
Speaker 11 (24:58):
And I'm like, no, now, it was the worst. So
like when they tested her one time, this other place
we used to go before they did the blood test, Uh,
they had these needles and she had to chill her
shirt and they just did all these pricks on her
back and we had to sit there and she.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
Was like, ah, like yeah, no, it was miserable, dude.
Speaker 11 (25:17):
And you can't take like anything to deal with it, right,
because they want to see what reactionally.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
Oh god, it's the worst.
Speaker 11 (25:23):
Yeah, that sounds horrible, man, And swallowing a bee doesn't
feel awesome.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
No, no, I they had to was stung them in
his throat. It did, it did many times.
Speaker 11 (25:36):
Well one time beat steak one time because they lose
their stingers to that.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
And then they died, all of them.
Speaker 12 (25:41):
Yes, that was the whole point of Jerry Seinfeld in
the Bee movie, right, yes, and then they die, right
he sacrificed himself.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
Yeah. Yeah, yeah. By the way, mid movie, the B movie. Yeah,
mid movie. It's really not good. It's no, it's at
a kid's movie. Not good. It's a mid movie at best.
Speaker 11 (26:01):
So much even my kids are like, nah, all right,
we got to take a break. All these stories are
on our Facebook page at facebook dot com. Slash BMMS
six nine.
Speaker 8 (26:10):
Tulsa's Morning Show is coming right back, a big morning
show Tulsa's rock station.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
Apparently. Do you know the story Gippie uh am, I
stealing your na man? This is all you have at it.
Speaker 12 (26:25):
I just think it is hilarious and really, really, if
it's the same story that I'm thinking, I'm pretty sure
it is.
Speaker 11 (26:32):
So Friday, they had the game, right, and they had
the watch party down at one oak Field that have
been awesome and the police got called there about a
thousand people or more at the game or at the
stadium watching the game on the big TV there, and
this man apparently decided to whip out his dog in
front of everybody. He has been arrested and his name
(26:59):
is Mirash and people probably thought it was a mirage,
but no, it was actually his penis. He was arrested
in charge with indecent exposure in public intoxication. When the
police arrived, security had him restrained. Which, by the way,
if you are security at one Oak Field, securing naked
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people is not something on your radar.
Speaker 12 (27:24):
No, no, you did not go to work that day.
Expect him to detain a nicked man.
Speaker 11 (27:30):
Certain things I think like police officers feel like ah,
even they probably joke like I don't want to touch
a naked person, right, And but at a baseball stadium.
Speaker 13 (27:39):
I mean it, guys, had these streakers run the field?
Speaker 2 (27:42):
Not really?
Speaker 13 (27:43):
Maybe not?
Speaker 2 (27:44):
It's not common. No, it's not common.
Speaker 13 (27:46):
Has happened, of course it has happened, but it is
not common.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
So when you take a job like that, you do
not expect it to happen.
Speaker 12 (27:54):
Did you see in there his reasoning for stripping down. No,
he said he was hot.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
Humid. Yeah right, but come on, you're at a ballpark, bro.
I gotta be honest.
Speaker 11 (28:05):
When I my body temperature feels elevated, whipping my penis
out is not the way I cool down, all right,
it's literally Yeah, I'm good with this.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
Not on my radar. Things to do to cool down?
Speaker 13 (28:19):
No, wasn't that splash pad not open?
Speaker 2 (28:23):
Good? Like taking my shirt off. Socks off always seems
to cool me.
Speaker 12 (28:27):
Offs and shoes are number one, Right, that'll come off
first of anything, right, Hat, you gotta do the top
and bottoms of your body. Right, if you earn a hat,
take the hat off, and if you got your socks
and shoes on, take those off, because that's where everything
all the heat exits.
Speaker 11 (28:41):
Now, if I'm being honest, I have done this in
an extreme scenario where I have taken like paper towels
and put them in cold water or even dumped ice
on them and put them in that hot zone.
Speaker 12 (28:53):
Yeah yeah, but you're not pulling it out and then
placing the ice or the wet paper.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
No.
Speaker 11 (29:01):
At best I would turn or have some shielding done
and put the stick my hand in there and put
the paper towel with cold water on my grundle.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
I'm not trying to show anything. Go to a bathroom something, right.
Speaker 13 (29:15):
I'm sure that the store was open inside, you know,
to buy some merch. That place is air conditioned.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 13 (29:23):
Would have felt great in there.
Speaker 12 (29:25):
Yeah, leave like he said, Yeah, just leave, Just go
get in your car, turning ac uncle home, strip down,
naked in your own bed or on your couch whatever,
and then cool off that way.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
Yeah that cracked me up.
Speaker 12 (29:37):
I might really I've been pretty warm in my time,
but not enough to pull him a waaner.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
Well, then you haven't been warm.
Speaker 13 (29:44):
Good morning Lindsay, Good morning Gorbon. He's not fat, He's
a fluffy comedian. Gabriel Iglesias will be back in Tulsa
on Saturday, July twelfth at the Cove inside River Spirit
to Casino, And if you'd like to win tickets to
the show, you can sign up now to win them
at kmode dot com.
Speaker 12 (30:02):
Good morning, Gimpie, Well, good morning Corbin. We're closer and
closer to Rock Oklahoma Labor Day weekend and prior to
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Manson and lots lot of bands playing. It's gonna be
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Speaker 11 (30:19):
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tickets all to celebrate fifty years of Miller Lite. Make
sure you're listening every hour with us to get qualified.
Let's do best and worst of the weekend. What's the
best part of the weekend. What's the worst part of
the weekend? BMMS and whatever that is to eight two
(30:40):
nine four five. We'll go around the room and then
we'll read your text BMMS and what's the best and
worst part of your weekend? To eight two nine four five.
Lindsay what's the best and what's the worst?
Speaker 4 (30:50):
Uh?
Speaker 13 (30:51):
The best of the weekend. We camped for Father's Day
despite having somewhat crappy weather. Of course, Uh, it feels
like all all it does anymore is rain. Growing up,
all we did on Father's Day was camp so it
was pretty awesome to take the kids camping, and we
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gave Kevin his Father's Day gifts while camping and.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
RV or like tent.
Speaker 13 (31:18):
Yeah, RV. Some breds of ours have one and when
they're out of town they're like, hey, use ours. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
It makes a difference with the weather.
Speaker 13 (31:27):
Yeah, absolutely, So we did that and the it cleared
up a bit yesterday, so we got to be on
the lake, did a little bit of fishing, caught some catfish,
and while we were out on the lake, there was
spoon bill jumping clearly completely out of the water and
it was cool to see and witness, and it happened
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a lot, and we had to get off the water.
I did personally around five to take my oldest get
him home because he was leaving for a Florida trip
with his church youth group. And so the which brings
me to the worst of the weekend, which was last night.
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I just had the worst time sleeping. I had horrible dreams,
and I have a feeling it had to do with
all of the fish jumping in the air and witnessing
all of those. My son was very excited because of
the fact that he's going to Florida. He's going to
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I mean, we went to Florida and went to Disney
and all that, but he's excited to be going into
the ocean for the first time and experiencing that. And
I just had all of these dreams last night of
him being in the ocean and him being eaten by
fish or a shark like it was. It just kept
waking me up and it was awful. So I had
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the worst night's sleep last night compared to the best
sleep when I'm camping.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
So that sucked. Is going to the ocean side or
the gulf side.
Speaker 13 (33:01):
They're going to Panama City the side.
Speaker 11 (33:05):
Yeah, I had a nightmare that I woke up to
and right when like the storms happened is when it
really woke me up. And I was we were all
of us, you guys, were everybody was in this. We
were being chased by road runners. But they were road
runners that were two D and they looked like turkeys,
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like Thanksgiving turkeys, you know, like big fanned out tails
and stuff. And they were blue and white and they
looked like cutout paper.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
That's but they were two D.
Speaker 12 (33:37):
I guess that days of times Trivia are really you know,
traumatized juice, right, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
Best and worst of the weekend.
Speaker 11 (33:45):
What's the best part of the weekend, what's the worst
part of the weekend, Gimpie, what's the best and what's
the worst.
Speaker 12 (33:49):
The best was definitely Rocked the River down at Sparrowhawk Campgrounds.
I stayed there all week and got down there Friday afternoon.
It was probably like one in the afternoon, okay, and
and of course had to unload and took a little
nap before I had to host for the night right
And it was awesome. A lot of people turned out.
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Music was great, okay, and I had a great time
doing it. The guys from Tantric are pretty awesome. Head
Pe slaid it, okay.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
Not gonna lie.
Speaker 12 (34:19):
Never was really a big head Pe fan, never really
got into their music, but watching them live, I was like, dude, yeah,
this is awesome. Yeah, it was awesome. So that was
the absolute best part of the weekend. The worst part
of the weekend is the guy and dang weather Man.
It just rained and as the show did go on,
because you know, I talked to John the owner spirit Ogain,
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yeah it's gonna happen rain or shine. A couple of
the bands got delayed Saturday because it rained most of
the day, and we didn't float Saturday because it.
Speaker 2 (34:50):
Rained most of the day.
Speaker 12 (34:52):
And by the time the rain stopped, well, you know
here we've got you know, concert attending, and it's too
late to start floating anyway. So we're like, all right, well,
I tell you, we'll just get up early tomorrow on
Sunday and we'll go float then. And we all wake up.
Because there it was me and the Shenan Against crew,
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of course, that's what we call ourselves, the late.
Speaker 2 (35:14):
Ten of Us. And uh we get up.
Speaker 12 (35:17):
All hungover a for the most part, right, and uh oh,
we gotta we gotta hurry you up and go. Rain's
gonna be here in about an hour and it's not
gonna stop all day.
Speaker 2 (35:26):
That's what I was told.
Speaker 12 (35:27):
I was like, well, cramp, I don't want to ride
my bike home in the rain, so let's go ahead
and clear this up. Get the hell out of here,
you know, beat the rain home.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
Did it rain yesterday? No, it was like a damn it.
Speaker 12 (35:42):
We totally could have floated yesterday and we didn't because
we were duped by mother Nager. Not only that was
that was the worst part of it. It was just just
the rain. But we made the best of it anyway.
Speaker 11 (35:54):
Best and worst the weekend, what's the best part of
the weekend. What's the worst part of the weekend when
you guys do that that thing? GIMPI do you cook?
Did you just eat off the food truck?
Speaker 2 (36:04):
Oh?
Speaker 12 (36:04):
No, what do you guys do a Friday night? We
did eat off the food truck. They had one out there.
They had two of that, couple of them, but the
ones that stuck out the most was a hot dog
stand called Slinging Whinnies.
Speaker 2 (36:17):
I'm like, that's brilliant.
Speaker 12 (36:18):
And then there was another one called like the Cowboy
Kitchen or Cowboy Corner or something like that, right, and
they had hamburgers and stuff over there. So some old
lady goes over there, She's like, you want a hamburger.
I'm like, yeah, sure, I'm delici I need something in
me now because I am starving. I hadn't really eaten
all day long, right, like a bean burrito. Somebody brought
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some waino and they're like, would you like one?
Speaker 2 (36:41):
Yeah? Sure? And this burger was mash. She brought me
a double burger.
Speaker 12 (36:46):
She got one for herself too, right, biggest dang old burger.
Speaker 2 (36:51):
Trying to eat that thing was oh, it was all
over the place.
Speaker 12 (36:54):
They got to a point to where I'm no longer
eating a traditional hamburger like the way that it should be.
I'm just cave manning at GOLs, taking it and shoving
in my mouth and chewing on it because it was
so big and massive.
Speaker 2 (37:07):
The second day we cooked.
Speaker 12 (37:10):
Saturday, we cooked and my brother stopped at the house
got my blackstone.
Speaker 2 (37:14):
We did tacos.
Speaker 12 (37:15):
We did street tacos of all two different kinds of meats,
you know, chicken and carne a son and stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (37:23):
And that's what we did on Saturday.
Speaker 11 (37:26):
Best and worst of the weekend. What's the best part
of the weekend. What's the worst part of the weekend?
Bmms and what that is to eight two, nine four five.
Best part of the week Father's Day yesterday, opening gifts
and we grilled steaks and you know all that. Yeah,
just good, nice chill day. Weather didn't affect at all
because I was inside.
Speaker 2 (37:46):
It's great. What'd you get for Father's Day? Just some
clothes and stuff, some T shirts and stuff like that.
Speaker 11 (37:54):
And then the worst part of the weekend is my
You might remember though my wife had a car shoe,
she had a new car issue surface in the last
week where she couldn't get it started, and the uh,
it happened again, and then it kept happening and I
haven't got to hear it, so I don't know what
it was doing. And it's a push start, so it's
(38:15):
not like you turn the key and can you know,
understand it from the classic way that I was taught
to understand if it's a starter or battery or altering
or whatever. And so I finally got to do it,
and I was like, oh, yeah, that's a battery one
hundred percent. And I had to take the bat change
the battery in it. Now, this is a German car.
The battery is in the trunk and I had to
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take part of the trunk out to.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
Get to this. And the battery was massive.
Speaker 11 (38:42):
It had to have been two feet long, and it
was about a three hundred dollars battery. And while I
was taking the brackets out, and they take European bolts,
which is a little type of different socket, and I
lost one of the bolts and I tried looking for it,
and I don't know where it went, and there's nowhere
for it to go except for in the bottom of
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the trunk, and so I don't know where it's at.
But I got two of the three, and so I
grabbed and I felt like that was pretty sketchy. It
was good enough for me, love, I mean, I mean,
the engineers feel like three was the right call, right,
but two felt pretty good.
Speaker 2 (39:21):
Yeah, So I don't know.
Speaker 11 (39:24):
So that was the worst of just trying to have
to do that yesterday on Father's Day. Best and worst
of the weekend? What's the best part of the weekend.
What's the worst part of the weekend?
Speaker 2 (39:33):
Best? Saw wicked? Worst? Uh? Mom fell down the steps?
Speaker 11 (39:38):
No, damn, But I feel like if you're gonna fall
down the steps your mom, it feels like at some
sort of Wicked or Wizard of Oz.
Speaker 2 (39:48):
Thing makes a lot of sense.
Speaker 11 (39:50):
Why, Well, because it doesn't the house fall on, the
evil step mom and all that stuff.
Speaker 2 (39:55):
Yeah, the wicked witch or the West or whatever.
Speaker 13 (39:57):
Wicked.
Speaker 11 (39:59):
Well, but no, Wicked is about that, yeah, right. Best
my daughter got married this weekend.
Speaker 2 (40:05):
She was beautiful.
Speaker 11 (40:06):
My wife was beautiful, and I danced like an idiot
with my daughter. Worst, I think I got bit by
a spider or something. My wrist really hurts. There's a
red mark with gou I'm slightly concerned that my hand
might rot off. Oh, you can't be concerned that much
because you're texting us and not going to the doctor.
Speaker 13 (40:24):
Right, is there a Center Dot?
Speaker 11 (40:28):
Best of the weekend getting pulled over doing sixty and
a forty this morning, but not getting a ticket or arrested.
Worst of the weekend hit a small depressive wall yesterday
thinking about my dad and not having my kiddos best
girls trip to Nashville for the weekend to celebrate my
niece's twenty first birthday. Worst her mom's attitude and the
way she acted while drinking.
Speaker 2 (40:52):
What did she do?
Speaker 12 (40:53):
I'm curious, right, I wonder if they got one of
those party cards, you know I'm talking about.
Speaker 2 (41:01):
You got a pedal?
Speaker 12 (41:02):
Yeah, right, yeah, the old bartle bartle bars. They've got
all kinds of those stuff like that flowing around Nashville.
I noted, Oh, yeah, you know when I went there
for that, uh, for that Niners game last year, and uh,
and it's always just women. It's always just a bunch
of woo girls out there just partying.
Speaker 11 (41:21):
I got a problem with, dude. That's what Nashville is.
It is a bachelorette party getaway weekend.
Speaker 2 (41:25):
I didn't realize that was like that oh yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 12 (41:30):
Oh yeah, so they had to have I guess they
didn't have to, but I guess you're gonna do it right,
you should?
Speaker 2 (41:37):
Uh?
Speaker 11 (41:37):
Best was I took my first long distance ride for
me on my new motorcycle to Kansas City for a
Royals game. Worst on the way back, I got hit
with a down poor storm while on the highway, which.
Speaker 2 (41:47):
Was also a first. Popped that cherry twice.
Speaker 11 (41:50):
Best started training for a five k and shoved some
time off my one mile worst undergraduate homework. Sure, uh
Best caught Tantrick's drumstick at Rockthriver. Worst got rained on
all weekend. Well that's fantastic, all right. We got tickets
to def Leppard. We're gonna give away when we come back.
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KMOD time for our listeners are awesome where we chat
with the listener and they share a part of their life.
On the line with us right now is William, Hey, William, how.
Speaker 9 (43:14):
Are you very good?
Speaker 11 (43:17):
William says that it says here you've got three kids.
What's the oldest, what's the youngest?
Speaker 9 (43:24):
Uh, the oldest is twenty, the youngest is sixteen.
Speaker 11 (43:28):
Okay, And it says that you were a firefighter in
New York, which we'll get to.
Speaker 2 (43:35):
But how did you get to Oklahoma?
Speaker 9 (43:38):
Oh? I got tired of the weather. I retired and
said screw it.
Speaker 2 (43:44):
Tired of the weather in New York.
Speaker 9 (43:46):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (43:47):
What was wrong with the weather in New York?
Speaker 9 (43:50):
Uh? The snow, A lot of the snow.
Speaker 2 (43:54):
Just got sick of the snow.
Speaker 11 (43:55):
And of all the places you could have picked without snow,
what made you land here?
Speaker 17 (44:00):
Oh?
Speaker 9 (44:00):
I liked the full four seasons, the hot summers, nice winters.
Speaker 2 (44:07):
Okay.
Speaker 11 (44:08):
Yeah, And so you were a firefighter? How old were
you and you became a firefighter in New York eighteen?
And what made you want to pursue that industry?
Speaker 9 (44:19):
Well, the government didn't want me the military.
Speaker 11 (44:23):
Okay, okay, And so you applied to be a fireman
and went through the training.
Speaker 9 (44:28):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (44:29):
How was that?
Speaker 9 (44:30):
Oh it sucked. It's probably going to the military.
Speaker 11 (44:36):
Was there a point that you thought you weren't gonna
make it through training?
Speaker 2 (44:41):
Oh?
Speaker 9 (44:41):
There was quite a few, quite a few. You get
to watch this little guy, skinny guy, little guy come
out with a five pound weight and he was like,
I'm gonna make you guys sweat hurt.
Speaker 2 (44:51):
Today.
Speaker 9 (44:51):
We're like, what, yeah, right about fifteen twenty minutes in
You're like, yeah, okay, I believe you.
Speaker 2 (44:58):
What was one of the worst things daring your training
that you had to deal with?
Speaker 1 (45:04):
Uh?
Speaker 9 (45:05):
Well, I would say probably the stair training running up
about one hundred flights of stairs type.
Speaker 11 (45:15):
Right, because there's so many buildings that have tenty of floors,
you've got to learn how to climb some stairs.
Speaker 9 (45:20):
Yeah. Yeah, you gotta do it with hose, you got
to do it with all your gear on, all kinds
of stuff.
Speaker 11 (45:25):
Yeah. How old were you when nine to eleven happened?
Speaker 9 (45:32):
Nineteen?
Speaker 11 (45:34):
So you finished training, get assigned to a station, right,
and then nine to eleven happens?
Speaker 9 (45:40):
Yeah, it was probably I think I was in my
station probably seven seven months or so. Wow when all
that happened.
Speaker 11 (45:49):
I'm sure that you can recount a lot of calls
and what you were doing and what the call was like.
But I'm sure you remembered the call that morning.
Speaker 2 (45:57):
Right. Were you in bed? What were you doing when
the all came in.
Speaker 9 (46:01):
I was actually leaving. I was crossing the tapen Zee
Bridge going back home when all that started to happen,
And I remember turning back around and running right through
the toll plaza, taking the guard gate thing down, and
all kinds of the little arm taking that right out,
going right on back.
Speaker 2 (46:20):
And so you go back to the station, and.
Speaker 9 (46:24):
I mean I went right I went right to the scene.
Speaker 12 (46:28):
Was that a decision you made as a firefighter or
did you like get a call from somebody like Gorman
said and is like, hey, you need to turn around
and go back.
Speaker 2 (46:35):
We've just had a catastrophe.
Speaker 9 (46:37):
No, something like that. You just take it on your own.
And what happened was I was listening to the radio
going home, and I was just jamming out, and then
I heard all that on the radio that came across
the same breaking news and this and that, and so
I turned my radio back on and I was listening
to the station radio for the city, and I heard
(47:00):
it all, and I said, oh man, So I turned
back around and I just called that back.
Speaker 11 (47:06):
See you didn't have your suit or anything. You just
went right to the scene.
Speaker 9 (47:11):
At first, I went by to make sure what was
going on, is what was going on. Then I went
to the station and got my gear and then went
back because I didn't believe it at first.
Speaker 12 (47:23):
Do false alarms like that that magnitude happen often.
Speaker 9 (47:30):
Not really, I mean something like that, you can't just
you know, false alarm. But yeah, when something like that
comes across you kind of know it's not It's not
like a fire alarm going off, false alarm. It's something
like a oh man, that's real.
Speaker 11 (47:51):
Yeah, I mean I can't imagine there's a question I
can ask you that would shed light on your feeling.
I think everybody can under have empathy and understand what
it was like. What do you think is something people
overlook from your standpoint about that day.
Speaker 9 (48:11):
They overlook what we were actually doing and how we
did it, like they just think that we were doing
it for the pride, And I guess you couldn't say
the light shine on us and we're not. We were
just doing our job. That's what we were trained to do.
That's what we were doing.
Speaker 2 (48:31):
Yeah, how long were you unseene? Do you remember? Oh?
Speaker 9 (48:36):
I would say a few months, so you.
Speaker 11 (48:39):
Just and you didn't pull a rotation back at the
house at the fire station at that point.
Speaker 9 (48:46):
No, No, for the first I would say two and
a half months. Everything was hectic after that. Then they
started pushing everyone away, saying, listen, you can't stay here.
That long you have to go and get away from
here for a week or whatever, but on your off
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time you can come back when you're not at your
station working. Well, we found ways around that. I mean, well,
there's three hundred and forty three people, three hundred and
forty three firefighters that were lost and we were looking
for them and numerous numerous people, right, I mean a
lot of people. Right, So we were just out there
looking for anything and everybody. So we just kind of
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found ways around everything, like we would a lot of times.
We would go there and then when we got a call,
we would go do it and then come back to it.
Speaker 2 (49:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 11 (49:36):
I don't know what question to ask to clarify anything,
because we know it wasn't awesome.
Speaker 2 (49:43):
We know how sad it is.
Speaker 11 (49:45):
We know the dedication, the grit that you and other
people there showed just to be try and find everybody
it is. It is an overwhelming thing just to think
about and for you to experience that in your first
seven months, that's awesome.
Speaker 2 (50:00):
So a lot.
Speaker 9 (50:01):
Yeah, Yeah, that that that pretty much set the rest
of my career.
Speaker 11 (50:07):
Right, Like if I were to go, hey, what was
the second most crazy call you went on?
Speaker 2 (50:12):
It wouldn't even be close.
Speaker 9 (50:13):
Right, No, No, nope, that that tops everything that I've
pretty much I've done in my career.
Speaker 2 (50:21):
I would happen.
Speaker 11 (50:23):
I would actually even suspect that once you guys finish
the assignment on scene and you go back to the
new normal at the fire station, that there was kind
of like a psychological thing that kicked in at that point.
Speaker 2 (50:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (50:40):
Pretty much. It was no normal after that. I mean
you just couldn't get back to a normal state as in,
just come in, do what you guys do, and didn't
go home type. There was none of that. I mean,
it was always in the background because well we always
had that in our shadow to look at. We could
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always look over and be like, well, damn, there was
towers there, right.
Speaker 11 (51:04):
Yeah, it's and it's embedded in everybody in the fire
station too, right, Like it's now a part of your DNA.
Speaker 2 (51:13):
Right.
Speaker 9 (51:13):
Every firehouse has a memorial to that at some point
or at some aspect of the people lost from each house.
Speaker 2 (51:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 13 (51:25):
So, yeah, have you gone back since leaving?
Speaker 9 (51:29):
No?
Speaker 13 (51:30):
No, no, do you ever? Can you when you close
your eyes, do you still see that day?
Speaker 16 (51:36):
Oh?
Speaker 9 (51:36):
I saw have shakes and nightmares and all kinds of stuff. Wow,
I woke up and grabbed my wife and I was
dragging around the house one night because I was having
a nightmare.
Speaker 11 (51:46):
Right, But you went on other calls. There are other
things that have shaped your career as a fireman. Yeah,
And it says here that the first time you fell
through a floor while firefighting, tell me about that.
Speaker 9 (52:03):
I find that kind of like a little funny story
because when we got we got to a call. It
was for a gas alarm and it was a faulty
furnace and they left some gas out and then it
gave a little explosion. It wasn't a major one, but
a little bit and it caught fire just a little
had a uh what do you call that? Like a
(52:25):
daycare type And when we went in, we were going
up to the second floor where the furnace was, and
we got five foot in and I went to go
step up on the step and I was in the basement. Wow,
I was like, I found that kind of funny because
when I landed, I landed on pretty much the mats
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and everything they have they keep down in the basement,
and I kind of fell hit the floor and fell
over on those. I mean, it was a shock at
the moment, but now that I look back, it was
kind of funny.
Speaker 11 (52:55):
Is have you seen I'm sure Backdraft is part of
the required training to become a Ironman, right the movie Backdraft?
Speaker 9 (53:01):
Yeah, he's got Backdraft. They can't really train you with.
It's just signs you have to look for when they
have videos of old backdrafts that they had video of
that they caught on video. But other than that, the
main thing they really training for is slashovers.
Speaker 11 (53:19):
But watching the movie Backdraft was not part of the
required training, was it?
Speaker 9 (53:24):
No?
Speaker 2 (53:25):
No long? No? Not how long? It's one of the
Cage Brothers.
Speaker 9 (53:32):
Yeah, I mean it's a it's a it's a good movie,
but it's got some tweaks to it that's not real.
Speaker 11 (53:44):
Did you guys do a lot of hazing to Boots? Like,
is there do you remember any of that?
Speaker 3 (53:49):
Oh?
Speaker 9 (53:50):
I don't know if I'm really supposed to talk about that. Well, yeah,
there was some, there was some.
Speaker 11 (53:56):
Was there anybody that came on that You're like, I'm
gonna make them quit?
Speaker 18 (54:01):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (54:01):
Yeah?
Speaker 9 (54:02):
Oh yeah, a lot of And how.
Speaker 2 (54:04):
Would you one do that?
Speaker 9 (54:08):
Oh, there's numerous ways, but I would say the most
the most friendliest way to tell anybody would be push
them to their limits, like make them do all the
grunt work, all the just crap jobs. You don't want
to do it, and you make them do it, and
(54:28):
then eventually they'll just be like, you know what, I'm
moving firehouses just crap.
Speaker 11 (54:34):
How many times would you say you've seen that happen.
You don't have to say if you've been a part
of it, but how many times have you seen that
happen where that's just kind of made guys move firehouses?
Speaker 9 (54:47):
Well, it's like a family. If you just don't fit,
you are pushed out one way or another. So I've
seen that probably a handful of times, because you're not
to be in a house with a bunch of other
guys and you're an oddball where you just don't fit
or get along with nobody. If that's the case, you're
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you're gone. One way or another, you're gone.
Speaker 11 (55:12):
So being a fireman in New York for eighteen years
and the brotherhood that you experienced there, you're forty three,
you're young, so you can take another job and work
another job if you wanted to. How do you work
in another environment after being a fireman that long and
with that type of camaraderie and shift to, for lack
(55:33):
of a better term, a civilian type of employment.
Speaker 9 (55:38):
Yeah, that's hard because you're never going to find the
same I guess you can say the same type of
family situation where like I knew everybody first first name,
we all hung out after work, we all did everything,
and you're not going to find that outside of something
like that. So it's like a culture shock. It's hard.
Speaker 2 (55:59):
I mean, yeah, did your retirement.
Speaker 11 (56:02):
Was there enough retirement that you could not work again
if you didn't want to.
Speaker 9 (56:08):
If I wait till I'm retirement age.
Speaker 11 (56:10):
Yes, okay, because you couldn't get your pitch in early, right,
I can, but it's not worth it, right right?
Speaker 2 (56:19):
So what, like, what type of jobs do you do now?
Speaker 15 (56:23):
Uh?
Speaker 9 (56:24):
Right now, I'm looking at a couple of different things.
I'm not really doing anything. I'm kind of just relaxing,
taking vacations and whatnot. But after I got out, I
went into the towing service and that was pretty pretty good.
But it's not for me.
Speaker 11 (56:42):
Listen, being a got tow truck driver is a I
wouldn't wish that upon people because you got to try
and deal with the highway and pick up cars in
the highway, which seems so crazy, as you know, as
a fireman plead people don't get out of the way
for a fire truck, and they definite ain't get in
the way out of the way for a tow truck.
Speaker 9 (56:59):
No reason I went into the tow truck stuff was
because I figured it was kind of the same type
of schedule because we would worked three days on, three
days off, four days on, four days off, so I'm
used to being up for a couple of days at
a time, so I kind of just went towards it
that because that's what they require, and I was like,
this ain't too bad, just I can't deal with the people.
Speaker 11 (57:22):
And I think we talked to someone who's a fireman
and they went on to do firemen for insurance companies
where they just go and sit at people's property during
wildfires to protect their property. Would you ever go into
something like that.
Speaker 9 (57:35):
If a founder came across something like that, I probably would, Yeah, because.
Speaker 11 (57:40):
You make a lot of dangerous of course, as it
always does, but this would be a short stint of
it and make pretty good contract money.
Speaker 9 (57:47):
I would think, right, probably, Yeah. I don't know how
they do that.
Speaker 11 (57:52):
But yeah, yeah, that to get out and then go Okay,
now what am I going to do has to be
a struggle that you deal with on a regular basis.
Speaker 9 (58:04):
Yeah, but that would be like with anything. When you
have a job for so long and you've done so
so much in that job, trying to find something that
matches at is always hard.
Speaker 2 (58:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 11 (58:15):
Yeah, Uh, tell me about what you do for fun?
Speaker 9 (58:18):
Then, well, I'm an outdoors guy, so I like to
be outdoors doing anything on the water, in the woods.
I don't care. I just like to be outside.
Speaker 2 (58:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 11 (58:31):
Well, right on, listen, William, it's been great talking to
you man. Thank you for sharing your story with us,
and it was a good conversation.
Speaker 2 (58:39):
Have a great day.
Speaker 9 (58:40):
Yeah you too.
Speaker 2 (58:41):
All Right, that's William. Our listeners are awesome. We're going
to take a break and we'll be back.
Speaker 15 (58:45):
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Speaker 11 (58:51):
Lord A wife kills cheating husband while their children are
at home after he unexpectedly announced he was leaving with
his friends.
Speaker 2 (59:00):
Okay. Forty six year old woman.
Speaker 11 (59:03):
Plagged guilty this week to one count of murder in
the second degree with a firearm. She was sentenced to
spend twenty one years in prison, with two hundred and
eighty five days credited. Rohann Malcolm was shot several times
at the couple's home in South Florida after going grocery
shopping Labor Day for a Labor Day barbecue. Lashed August.
(59:26):
She did not trust him and was at her wits
end with his lies and deceit, the police said. The
sense condemned woman told police she knew about his unfaithful
behavior for roughly two years prior to the violence, and
that the Sunday afternoon shooting came in response to the
man's claim he was going out with friends. The woman
(59:47):
did not believe him. She went on to tell police
she and her husband slept in separate bedrooms and frequently
engaged in heated altercations due to his infidelity, had all
but broken up their marriage. He unexpectedly announced that he
was leaving to go to a friend's house. A nearly
(01:00:10):
hour long, heated argument ensued. The woman suspected her husband
was speaking in code that his friends were actually another woman.
Speaker 2 (01:00:23):
The end of the argument was ended with gunfire.
Speaker 11 (01:00:30):
The shooting occurred around six thirty pm, the couple's then
fourteen year old son dialed nine to one one After
hearing what he described as two or three loud bangs
while listening to music with headphones on, The boy ran
into his parents' bedroom saw his mom in the doorway
toting a gun while his father had visibly been shot
in the shoulder. Police arrived pretty fast, and within five
(01:00:52):
minutes after issuing verbal commands for the people inside to leave,
two twin boys came out, but not the adults because
she wasn't done. Moments after officers arrived, a loud bang
rang out the shot believed to have finally killed him.
Speaker 2 (01:01:09):
She wouldn't messing around.
Speaker 11 (01:01:10):
Yeah, police shouted for her to come out empty handed.
She considered taking her own life, but she decided against
doing so when her wounded husband said something to her
that made her stop her thoughts of suicide and shoot
him for a final time.
Speaker 2 (01:01:26):
Dang oh, I did he right? He asked for me
to end it for him like we have. He said
he was sorry.
Speaker 11 (01:01:37):
My thought was one of the mother bitches would have
shot me, something along the lines of probably.
Speaker 2 (01:01:43):
Like they were better than you.
Speaker 11 (01:01:45):
Right, Just something to twist the knife and she was like, yeah, terrible. Um,
she said something to made her stop her thoughts suicide.
After that last shot, she said he was not alive.
She then placed the semi automatic murder weapon on the
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bedroom dresser and walked outside to be arrested. The officers
injured the residence and found the victim lying on the
on his back in a bedroom with multiple gunshot wounds
to his body and blood pulling underneath him. The boy
who called nine to one one would later tell law
enforcement that he considered his parents estranged and that they
slept in separate bedrooms, and that the two frequently argued
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about his father's.
Speaker 2 (01:02:27):
Involvement with other women.
Speaker 11 (01:02:30):
There was a GoFundMe it's now been closed to raise
money for the victim's funeral. He was not just a friend,
a brother, or son. He was a beacon of light,
known for his kindness, laughter, and on wavering support for others. Dude,
I am not engaging in an argument for an hour
with anyone.
Speaker 12 (01:02:49):
Yeah, what are we talking about here? Fifteen twenty minutes max,
maybe thirty.
Speaker 11 (01:02:57):
I will pull the Hey, can we revisit this later
card pretty fast? Yeah, I'm with you in a domestic
altercation like that.
Speaker 2 (01:03:03):
After an hour, you're just talking in circles. After five minutes,
there's not much to be hashed. You're a cheater. No
I'm not.
Speaker 11 (01:03:13):
But you went that one time. Yeah, but you did this,
but then you did this. No, you misunderstood it for
an hour.
Speaker 2 (01:03:20):
You know what.
Speaker 12 (01:03:21):
I'm just gonna go to my friends and we can
talk about this later.
Speaker 11 (01:03:26):
Friend your friends, Oh friend, huh. And there's if there
if a sun thought they were a strange they were,
I mean they were together.
Speaker 2 (01:03:37):
Yeah, teenage boy. Yeah, he knew what's up.
Speaker 11 (01:03:40):
And they were too afraid or financially couldn't pull the
plug right.
Speaker 12 (01:03:45):
Maybe she just hope, I hope we can get this fixed.
But it sounds to me like and maybe he did.
Speaker 2 (01:03:51):
I don't know. But she was not letting go at
all whatsoever. I mean she was.
Speaker 11 (01:03:57):
It had been going on for two years. They were
sleeping in step bedrooms. Even if kids didn't think they
were together. She had let go. She just hadn't finally
let go, right, she was everything else was in place.
Speaker 2 (01:04:11):
Yeah like that.
Speaker 11 (01:04:14):
Sometimes I think in arguments that becomes like a drug. Okay,
like you gotta have that argument that that is the
only way affection happened, right, that was the intimacy. Yeah, yeah,
for both of them, for both of them to a
cage and when the crazy train ticket was offered and
you went on it. Because reality, what did she care
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they were? They weren't together, right, Absolutely, she shouldn't care.
Speaker 2 (01:04:41):
They weren't together. They're sleeping in separate rooms.
Speaker 12 (01:04:43):
You know, they're not married at all whatsoever, They're just
living together for the sake of the children.
Speaker 13 (01:04:47):
Well, maybe she ended up missing him and it came
down to if I can't have you, no one will.
Speaker 11 (01:04:51):
Well that's not a good thing though. That's not a
good argument. I mean, but what we're saying is everything
was in place already.
Speaker 2 (01:04:57):
All she had to do is just pack up her things, leave.
Speaker 11 (01:05:00):
Or change the locks on him. He's not a good
dude either. I'm not defending him. I'm just saying that, like,
everything was already in place, so to now have vengeance.
Speaker 13 (01:05:10):
It sounded more like they were terrible communicators. Yeah, you
can't talk with a gun, But it sounded like she
did miss her husband, living in separate bedrooms and all
of that, she did want him back.
Speaker 2 (01:05:26):
I don't think so. If she wanted him back, you
wouldn't kill him. That is a true point.
Speaker 13 (01:05:33):
And she was driven to insanity, oh right.
Speaker 12 (01:05:35):
No, driven to insanity, no responsibility, it's.
Speaker 11 (01:05:40):
Not her fault, a woman's scorn, no adult human being.
Speaker 2 (01:05:47):
Right. She had the wherewithal to sleep in a separate.
Speaker 13 (01:05:49):
Bedroom, or maybe he moved out of the bedroom.
Speaker 12 (01:05:53):
Either way, they're not sleeping in the same room, right,
and she was okay with it.
Speaker 2 (01:05:57):
Why don't we just go with maybe she was on
her period. Maybe I like that.
Speaker 11 (01:06:01):
Let's start all the greatest hits out there. All right,
we got to take a break, we'll be back tell
us this morning show, so.
Speaker 2 (01:06:08):
We studio now. Is Jeff Heinsley of hinsleyan Associates. Good morning, Jeff, Hey,
good morning.
Speaker 11 (01:06:12):
He's here to answer any question you have about divorce, custody,
name changes, guardian chips, whatever family loss situation. Jeff and
the folks at Hinsley Associates can help and he's here
to answer your question right now. A couple of ways
to get your question to us. You can call at
eight three three four six oh kmod. You can text
it BMMS and whatever that question is to eight two
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nine four five or email show at kmode dot com
like this one. Says, my brother asked me to be
guardian of his daughter if anything happens to him. But
the child's mom isn't really in the picture. Can she
block block it if she shows up later?
Speaker 3 (01:06:48):
Well, okay, so being asked, and I'm glad we bring
this up every now and then because it's it's important
and I think that, you know, people should understand it
because when I was younger, I didn't understand it. I
didn't understand it until he became a famoul attorney. So I
will tell you. You know, when you nominate somebody, when you
say they're going to be the guardian when something happens
to you, what that means is you're now nominating them
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in some form, whether it being a will or a
trust or you know, some sort of document that says
that if something should happen to me, then I am
nominating so and so to be the guardian. Now, obviously
that guardian has to be appropriate. In other words, you know,
no felons, no drug dealers, no, you know that kind
of stuff, murders, all that kind of deal. But when
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it comes to the other person being out, I mean
what happens is is if something happens there's notice given
out that guardianship has been filed, that so and so
has been nominated. They try their best to find mom
and serve mom, whether that be by personal service or
by a certified mail or a publication in a newspaper,
but they make sure that she's served. If she shows up,
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I mean, she can contest it. But at the end
of the day, if mom has not been around and
she's been completely absent, the chances of the judge not
graining the guardianship or fairly slim, simply because the judge
isn't going to give the child to somebody who hasn't
been around the child their entire life. You know, the
judge always has to look at the best interest of
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the child and what's in that child's best interest for
you know, health and future and all that kind of stuff.
So you know, it's good to nominate people. Obviously, that
helps in case something does happen. It takes that what happen,
you know, what if scenario out of it. But when
you've got a situation like this, she can always come
in contest, assuming she stays out of the picture. And
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even if something happens to you, maybe you serve her
and she goes, oh, well, glad he's dead, and then
moves on.
Speaker 2 (01:08:38):
I mean, you just never know.
Speaker 11 (01:08:40):
Can somebody show up at the hospital, God forbid the
person that dies and goes, I'm here to take care
of little Johnny because he said he wanted me to
take care of little Johnny.
Speaker 3 (01:08:51):
Well, it's more than just so and so said. I
mean again, if you've got to have something in writing,
I mean that's why you want to contact tunk tact
us and put it in a will. Let's put it
in a trust or something like that. Said, there's there's
a clear nomination as to what's going on as opposed.
Speaker 4 (01:09:06):
To will you know, sitting around drinking beers onenot. You know,
Johnny got real reflective and decided that he wanted to
nominate me in case something happened to him. You know
that that's one.
Speaker 2 (01:09:18):
You have a fantastic hick voice.
Speaker 3 (01:09:19):
That's it's a long practice.
Speaker 2 (01:09:22):
Man. I love King of Hill absolutely.
Speaker 3 (01:09:27):
I'm so excited that they brought it back and starting
back here shortly in August.
Speaker 2 (01:09:33):
Grown up Bobby is gonna be funny.
Speaker 3 (01:09:34):
But with that being said, uh, it's more than just
saying you've got to have it something in writing.
Speaker 2 (01:09:40):
I mean, that's why we call it a nomination. You know.
Speaker 3 (01:09:43):
Now, just because someone says, well, so and so said,
that doesn't mean.
Speaker 2 (01:09:46):
That person can't try to be a guardian.
Speaker 3 (01:09:48):
That's you know, they can always apply to be a guardian,
but that nomination is always nice to have as well.
Speaker 11 (01:09:54):
Jeffer Minsley Associates is in the studio and you can
email him show at kmod dot com. You can call
it nine I'm sorry eight three three four six O
KMOD or text BMMS and whatever the question is to
eight two nine four five. This says, can you end
regular child support when it's time if you still owe
back support?
Speaker 3 (01:10:13):
So what happens in those situations is is the current
support moving forward typically is extinguished, but the back support remains.
No interesting fact about back support.
Speaker 2 (01:10:26):
You know, you can.
Speaker 3 (01:10:27):
Always try and get the other side to waive all
back support. They're the only ones that have the power
to do that. Okay, So if you owe somebody money
for back support, they can choose to say, you know,
I don't want that back support.
Speaker 2 (01:10:37):
I don't want to mess with it.
Speaker 3 (01:10:38):
The caveat to that is is that if there's money
owed to the state for sooner care, tan f Wick,
things like that, and then that money is still owed
to the state. You can't get rid of that portion
of it. But you know that those are typically much
smaller portions than the large amount oded for back support.
So yeah, it's still owed. I mean, it doesn't just
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go away because the kid ages out. They continue to
collect on it until it's paid in full or the
other side agrees to erase it.
Speaker 11 (01:11:07):
So if you had you found out you had a
kid when they were ten and they were on Sooner
Care of their whole life, and then when they turned eighteen,
you wouldn't stop because you need to pay back the
state for Sooner Care or whatever for the previous right.
Speaker 2 (01:11:21):
But eight years, well no, not eight years, two years.
Speaker 3 (01:11:24):
So whenever an order gets put in place, the most
they can go back in time is two years if
there's no existing order from years here. So in your scenario,
if there was an order that came about when the
kid was born and they's supposed to be a collection
that entire time and it's unpaid, that's one thing. But
in the other part of your scenario, you say, well
you don't find out till they're ten, Well, the order
doesn't go in effect, until they're ten. The most they
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can do is go back two years. The law used
to be five years, and when it was five years,
the interest rate was ten percent rather than two years
and two percent, So only.
Speaker 11 (01:11:56):
Two years, so they don't find it. You can't be
liable for something you were unaware.
Speaker 3 (01:11:59):
Of, not long term, that's correct. I mean in the
old days it is as much as five years, but
now it's only two.
Speaker 2 (01:12:04):
Years, that's correct.
Speaker 11 (01:12:05):
Jefferm Heinsling Associates is here to answer your question about
family law. Any question you have, name change, custody, guardianships, adoptions.
He can answer any of those questions. This says, my
ex and I are both asking for full custody. How
does the judge decide who gets what when we can't agree?
Speaker 3 (01:12:24):
Well, I mean, let's talk about versus paternity. Okay, let's
say this is a divorce, all right. The law now says,
and case law says that judges have to start at
halftime and joint custody. That's where the judges have to start,
all right. So based upon the facts presented in the case,
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they can devolve to something different. Let's say, you know
how you can prove that the other side is unfit
by being a drug addict or an alcoholic, or you know,
something that may put the children in potential harm. You know,
there may be some deviations that way, but otherwise, in
a marriage situation, in a divorce situation, it's joint custody
and half time is where the judges start. Now, paternity cases,
a lot of judges will start there, but there's no
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statutory or case law requirement that they do. So there
was some cute and confusion about this up until about
six months ago when the Supreme Court of Oklahoma actually
handed down a ruling that said, no, it only applies
to divorces for that specific joint custody have time to
start mandate. But again, that doesn't mean that a lot
of judges don't start that way with paternity cases. It
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just depends on the county you're end, the judge you're
in front of, and you know the facts of the
case obviously, But in regards to dealing with with this
was the issue of you know, the judges here at testimony,
and that's the whole reason we have cases. Right If
you guys can't decide, if you can't do it's best
for your child and you're bickering and can't get along,
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then we put on a hearing and the judge takes
the existing facts that are presented to them and they
make a ruling and decide as to who's going to
have custody, and who's going to have visitation, and what
the visitation is going to look like and all those
kind of things. So you know, again, unless there's a
mandate by state law joint custody halftime, which is where
they have to start, then you know they can do
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whatever they want when regards to paternity cases and things
like that.
Speaker 2 (01:14:15):
So that's why we have judges.
Speaker 3 (01:14:16):
I mean, if you guys can't get along and understand,
and I tell this to everybody, and I think a
lot of attorneys do, is is that it's always better
if the parties are involved in the decision making for
their own cases. In other words, you know, that's why
we do mediation. It gives you some control as to
what happens with your the life of you, your ex
and your kids, all right. Otherwise, if you can't get along,
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you're going to turn it over to somebody in a
black bathrobe, and there's nothing about you, nothing about your ex,
nothing about your kids and has to make life altering
decisions based upon a few hours of testimony.
Speaker 11 (01:14:48):
So is it safe to say that they they they
don't want it to come to that.
Speaker 2 (01:14:53):
They want you to do mediation.
Speaker 11 (01:14:54):
They want you to try and figure it out before
the judge has to decide.
Speaker 2 (01:14:57):
Right, you know, I obviously I've been doing this a
long time.
Speaker 3 (01:15:03):
I have judges that I've known personally, meaning they were,
you know, previous people that I've had cases with. Or
I've got one that you know, we went to college together,
We've known each other thirty years, that kind of thing.
Speaker 2 (01:15:13):
And I will tell you that.
Speaker 3 (01:15:17):
The last thing a judge wants to have to do
is be a judge in the sense of, you know,
if you guys can make your own decisions, that's so
much better from your family than a judge having to
make a ruling. Honestly, it really is, because again, it
gives you some sort of control on what's going on.
Judges do what they do because they have to, because
that's their job. That's what they're there to do when
people can't get along. It's at least in the family
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law world, right, criminals different and things like that.
Speaker 2 (01:15:41):
But when you come to the family low world.
Speaker 3 (01:15:43):
The judges are there to help people make decisions when
they can't make their own. And so anytime you're involved
in making your own decisions and controlling your own destiny
with your family, that's so much better than leaving it
to somebody who you know is there to help but
would rather you do it yourself.
Speaker 2 (01:15:59):
Jeff is here from him in associates.
Speaker 11 (01:16:00):
You got a question for him about your divorce or
maybe custody, or maybe you found out you're going to
be a dad and you didn't think you were going
to be a dad. He can answer how some of
that's going to work? Eight three three four six. Oh, KMOD.
You can text BMMS and whatever that is to eight
two nine four five, or you can email show at
kmod dot com. This is during the divorce, I kept
my name, but now I've changed my mind. Can I
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still go back and switch it even after the divorce
is finalized?
Speaker 3 (01:16:27):
So once you're done, can you change your name?
Speaker 14 (01:16:29):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (01:16:30):
Absolutely, We just don't do it through the divorce decree.
Speaker 3 (01:16:32):
So, in other words, you don't file emotion to modify
or emotion to amend decree based upon the fact that
now you want to change your name. All right, we
can still do it. You just don't do it that way.
We just do a regular, you know, petition to change name.
Speaker 11 (01:16:45):
It's usually you guys, throw it in just like we're
already here. Let's go ahead and get that done, right.
Speaker 2 (01:16:49):
Right exactly. We do that, you know.
Speaker 3 (01:16:50):
We do that for kids' names in case people want
to change it then, especially in paternity cases when you
want to change the last name to the biological fathers
so they can get on the birth certificate, those.
Speaker 2 (01:17:00):
Sorts of things.
Speaker 3 (01:17:00):
But yeah, and name changes for ladies absolutely, or I
shouldn't say just ladies, okay, anybody who has changed their
last name because of the marriage. I've had one case
in my life where the husband changed his last name
to the wife's last name. Regardless, whoever wants to change
your name, we typically do it in the divorce decree. Yes, absolutely,
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Sometimes people change their minds later, which is fine too,
which is why we also do petitions to change name
after the fact. So if you've got this, please give
us a call. It's just a simple petition. We serve,
you know, give notice that it's happening, that you're not
trying to defraud creditors, and we change it and the
beauty about changing names after a divorce decree is this okay? See,
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during a divorce, you can only change it back to
your previous last name whatever that is. So if you've
been married three or four times and you've changed your
name every time, and if you've not always gone back
to your maiden name blah blah blah, you know, you
can only change it back to your previous name or
your very first maiden name kind of thing. Whereas after
the divorce, if you want to change your name to
you know, Sarah fill in the blank for the last same,
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we can do any last name you want as obviously,
as long as it's not vulgar and you know that
kind of thing. So yeah, a lot more options, a
lot more options after the fact if you want.
Speaker 2 (01:18:14):
To do it.
Speaker 11 (01:18:14):
Yees, would you say name change is one of the
easier family law things to do.
Speaker 3 (01:18:20):
I would say so, yeah, absolutely, it's one of the
easier things to do. Sure.
Speaker 11 (01:18:24):
Jefferminsley Associates is in the studio to answer your questions
about divorce and custody, in guardianship or adoption like this one.
It says, my wife and I adopted a baby last year,
but the birth mom is trying to contact us.
Speaker 2 (01:18:37):
Is there a chance she can undo the adoption.
Speaker 3 (01:18:40):
Only if she can prove frauder deceit in some way.
I mean, I don't know what the There is a
hole here, and the big glaring hole is is did
they have an agreement or was this where the rights
terminated through an adoption without consent?
Speaker 2 (01:18:53):
Hearing?
Speaker 3 (01:18:54):
You know, what's how did mom lose her rights? Did
she give them up voluntarily? Did they do it through
a option without consent and they found it it was
in the child's best interest not to be around mom
that sort of thing, or was it agreement that kind
of deal. There's a glaring hole here. But typically unless
you can prove fraud or deceit in some way, and
doing an adoption is very very difficult. But you know,
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let's say you've got a situation where it was an
open adoption. They didn't know who Buio mom was until
they met her and found she was pregnant, and then
I started giving her gifts and money and all that
stuff to grease the wheels, if you will, so she
would give up her rights. Okay, that's illegal. That kind
of junk is illegal. It's not allowed. And so if
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you can, if she can prove things like that, well.
Speaker 11 (01:19:39):
TV would lead us otherwise to believe otherwise that that happened,
which you say, don't trust that.
Speaker 2 (01:19:44):
You don't trust it.
Speaker 3 (01:19:45):
TV is evil when it comes to this stuff. The
thing about it is is because what it looks like
is the appearance of impropriety, like you're trying to buy
the baby from the mom by giving her stuff, giving
your money, all that kind of deal. So that's why
it's illegal. That's why it's not allowed.
Speaker 2 (01:20:04):
This is an interesting question. Somebody text in.
Speaker 11 (01:20:06):
Jeff Finsley from Hensley's Associates is here to answer your questions.
Speaker 2 (01:20:09):
Eight three three four six, Oh, KMOD is the phone number.
Speaker 11 (01:20:12):
You can email show at kmod dot com or you
can text BMMS and whatever that question is to eight
two nine four five Do I have to give my
kid my last name? They added to it that said
do I have to give give my kid my last
name or any name?
Speaker 2 (01:20:29):
Again?
Speaker 3 (01:20:29):
Holds are you married? Are you not married? Those kind
of things. Typically what's required is is that the child
takes on the last name of the parents. Is typically
how that's done. I'm gonna say I don't know the
answer to this.
Speaker 2 (01:20:45):
One. I've never had that pop up.
Speaker 3 (01:20:46):
In twenty years of doing this, I've never heard of
anything like that other than you know, some goofy sitcom
TV show episode. I would imagine you can give your
kid whatever name you want to give them, as long
as as the birth certificate says the parents are who
the parents are. Kind of thing. I don't know why
you would want to do that. I'm sure you have
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a very good reason. Hopefully it's not based upon the
goofy TV episode that I'm thinking of that kind of thing,
But could it be done. My gut instinct says yes,
as long as the birth certificate identifies the parents correctly.
Speaker 11 (01:21:21):
What does the state say about when their parents aren't married,
How do they decide?
Speaker 2 (01:21:26):
How does it decide who gets the name?
Speaker 3 (01:21:28):
So typically in those scenarios, when you've got a paternity
case of some sort, if dad is not there, they'll
typically give the last name of what mom's last name is,
because dad's not there to sign the birth certificate, norseia
there to sign the acknowledgment of paternity that the child
is his. Now, those things can be done after the fact.
We can go in and change those after the fact.
If we need to, but typically that's what happens. If
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the dad is not there, then it gets the mother's
last name.
Speaker 2 (01:21:53):
Usually Jeff is here from Hinsley and Associates.
Speaker 11 (01:21:56):
You have a question about divorce or custody or guardianship
and call us at eight three three four six oh KMOD.
You can email show at kmod dot com or text
BMMS and whatever your question is to eight two nine
four five. This says, my question has to do with guardianship.
I have guardianship of our grandson. Dad was absent for years.
Since the guardianship, he's come back into our grandson's life.
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He doesn't want custody of him, but he doesn't want
to pay. He doesn't want custody of him, but doesn't
want to pay support. Mom is on drugs. Grandson is
months away from being eighteen. Is trying to emancipate and Tulsa,
but guardianship is in Kansas.
Speaker 2 (01:22:31):
Can he do that and he emancipate.
Speaker 11 (01:22:34):
Our county doesn't emancipate without strict guidelines.
Speaker 3 (01:22:38):
Well, no state emancipates without strict guidelines. Okay, so let's
talk about emancipation. I'm glad this pops up every once
in a Blue Moon. Understand when you see these TV
and movie star kids emancipate, understand they're already worth lots
of cash, lots of money. Okay, they don't go to
traditional schools, they don't have traditional per se. The reason
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I bring this up is in Oklahoma to emancipate. And
I don't know why a kid would want to emancipate
a couple months out from being eighteen. That's just stupid
and waste time, but it's their life. When you emancipate,
you have to have certain things. You have to have
your own place to live, okay. You have to have
your own job okay, to support yourself. You can't rely
on other people giving you money. You have to have
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fund yourself to take care of yourself. You've got to,
you know, if you're not done with school, you've got
to complete school. And here's the kicker in Oklahoma, amongst
other things, is you have to have the permission of
the parents. So if the parents don't agree to an
emancipation in Oklahoma, it's not going to happen. The fact
that the guardianship is out of Kansas is not really
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relevant because the kid is a resident of Oklahoma now
it's just and of course that guardianship in Kansas is
going to be terminated once the kid turns eighteen. Anyway,
my advice would be is just see if the kid
will cool his jets and wait until he's eighteen in
a couple of months, because it's going to take a
couple of months to get the emancipation done anyway, particularly typically,
so you know, again, unless you can prove these things,
(01:24:10):
there's no judge that's going to sign an emancipation order
just because you want to get away from, you know,
having rules at home. And that's typically what the calls
I get is is, well, I'm tired of you know, this,
this and this and my parents controlling it. Well, do
you have a job, Well, no, you know, do you
have do you have.
Speaker 2 (01:24:26):
Your own way? Do you have your own place to stay?
Speaker 4 (01:24:28):
No?
Speaker 3 (01:24:28):
You know, emancipation sounds fun, but unless you've got the
ability to take on the fact that at fifteen, you're
going to be an actual adult, which means you've got
to act like an adult.
Speaker 2 (01:24:40):
What do we do as adults?
Speaker 3 (01:24:41):
We have jobs, we have to live somewhere, we have
to take care of ourselves, those kind of things. So,
unless you know you're a kid and you want to
do that, and you're able to do that. And that's
why these rich you know, TV and movie stars can
do it, is because they've got the funding and all
that stuff to do it. They've already got mansions and
everything else they're living in. All Right, it's different. And
(01:25:02):
again in Oklahoma, you have to have the permission of
your parents to emancipate.
Speaker 11 (01:25:07):
Jeff Heinsley from Hinsley and Associates is here this one.
I'm going to leave some stuff out on purpose.
Speaker 2 (01:25:14):
That's ominous.
Speaker 11 (01:25:14):
It says, uh, I'm stuck in court certain court. The
judge is retaliating against me for filing bar complaints. They
suspended my visitation until trial for unrational reasoning. I filed
a motion to reconsider with lots of proof that the
state that states it wasn't possible with the judge, with
(01:25:38):
what the judge was asking, how can I get my
daughter back? They have a lot of specifics in there
that I'm deliberately leaving out because I'm not going to
put a court or a judge on blast.
Speaker 3 (01:25:49):
I'm there's just not enough for me to answer. I mean,
I would literally have to pull the court file or
the going too OSCN and see what the court minutes
say and find exactly what's going on. Why are you
filing bar complaints? Why are you asking judge's recusal?
Speaker 11 (01:26:06):
I mean, there's a lot of holes and it sounds
like they're representing themselves right, which sounds like not a
great start.
Speaker 2 (01:26:12):
It's never a great start.
Speaker 3 (01:26:14):
Okay, you think it's going to be, you think it's
going to be, Oh, well, I can handle this again.
That would be like, you know, me going out and
trying to do a very specialized technical job of some
sort and then next thing I know, I'm missing an
arm because I screwed it up. I mean, it's the
same thing. We do this day in and day out.
I've done this for twenty years. I've got with all
(01:26:34):
of my attorneys in my office now we have a
total of over seventy years of combined experience doing this
day in and day out. And so with that being said,
you know, you want to give us a call when
you've got these issues. You don't want to represent yourself
because obviously there's something going on that's misunderstood about what's
happening with the judge and in the courtroom, and we
(01:26:54):
need to find out.
Speaker 2 (01:26:55):
What that is.
Speaker 3 (01:26:55):
Whoever this is, please feel free to give me give
us a call up my office. One of us can
talk to you about what's going on. But at the
same time too, when you represent yourself and you don't
know what the law is, you don't practice this, you
weren't taught it. You know, reading the statutes you know,
and trying to figure it out is difficult.
Speaker 2 (01:27:11):
Case laws.
Speaker 3 (01:27:12):
Same way when you start bringing in things like you know,
US federal law to a state court and all that
which I've seen pro says do, that's when you gan
is some some dangerous areas. So please, if you got
these issues, don't represent yourself, please give us a call.
Speaker 2 (01:27:26):
We'd be happy to help you out.
Speaker 11 (01:27:28):
You've mentioned before, you can be pro se if you
would like, But keep in mind they the judges then
expect you to act as if you have exactly exactly
do all the attorneys right.
Speaker 2 (01:27:38):
You don't get a break.
Speaker 3 (01:27:39):
I mean, if you think you're gonna get a break
because oh, I'm pro se and i don't know what
I'm doing, and you know I've never done this before,
and I'm sorry, judge, because that doesn't matter. You're going
to be held to the exact same standard as a
practicing attorney who has a license in the state of
Oklahoma who may or may not have been doing this
like me for twenty years. Okay, you're going to be
held to that exact same standard. And every time you
(01:28:00):
goof up, the judge's gonna hold you your feet to
the fire on that. Every time you file something you
shouldn't have and it's denied, you know, again, you're gonna
be held to the exact same standard. That's what the
law requires. And that's true in every single state. If
you're gonna be pro SAE, So understand, if you're gonna
do it, fine, but understand you're gonna be held to
the same standard.
Speaker 2 (01:28:19):
And typically that's not a good idea.
Speaker 11 (01:28:21):
What if they're not pro se and their attorney is
doing some things that isn't up to par and causing
the problems.
Speaker 3 (01:28:28):
Well, first of all, I always tell people if you're
unhappy with your attorney, talk to them, all right, This
is my first suggestion is always sit down and talk
with them, you know, don't just call them and try
to get a hold of them. Schedule an actual time
to talk to them face to face or on the phone.
Or whatever it may be about what your concerns are.
That way they know exactly what needs to be addressed
so they can so they can make things right and
(01:28:49):
get it taken care of. If at that point it's
not done all right and you're still unhappy, then you
would want to try to find a new attorney. And
of course you can give us a call. We'd be
happy to talk to you about your case. But the
main thing is is always talk to the attorney first
before you start getting upset and just out of the blue,
you know, take off or threaten them or something.
Speaker 2 (01:29:07):
Please talk to them and then you.
Speaker 3 (01:29:09):
Know if your concerns are not addressed, and then go
looking for an jorney.
Speaker 11 (01:29:13):
Make sure you get representation that can help you when
you're dealing with your family law situation, and the folks
in Hinsley Associates are just that, and make sure you
give him a call at nine eight three nine five
six nine two for hinsleyan Associates mentioned kmode get a
free consultation of the phone, explain your situation. You can
give more details and maybe you can give a better
answer that caters specifically to your problem. Nine eight five
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six nine two for Hensley Associates, and if you're outside
family law and need some help, Jeff and the folks
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Absolutely so through our office in Pahusca. It's the Shoemake
Law Firm. Yes it is a different name, but it
is us. We just left the name when we took
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does a great job. Anything in addition to family law
up there or any place in the state. If you've
got a you know, a dui, a speeding ticket, if
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contract issues, if you've got a will or a probate
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if you've got a you know, a need to sell
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there and have you talk to Sam and he can
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Of nine three nine eight five six nine two for
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Hey you too, Thank you back.
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Toll free eight three three four six, okmod. I always
love when we come across stories about researchers. Instead of
focusing on cancer, they focus on other silly things like this.
Researchers in Vancouver have decided to explore the phenomenon of
(01:38:43):
life flashing before.
Speaker 2 (01:38:44):
Your eyes prior to death.
Speaker 11 (01:38:47):
Okay, I don't know how they do this, but it
says they use data from a patient who had a
heart attack and died while undergoing a scan. For scientists,
this is a rare opportunity to reward the brain at
the moment of death. What they found was that the
patient's brain went through a series of gamma oscillations before death,
(01:39:09):
which are quote linked to retrieval of memories and dreaming
end quote. It suggests that the brain may have been
taking a stroll down memory lane before finally calling it
a lifetime. I am of the camp that I don't
believe that your life flashes before your eyes like that.
(01:39:32):
I think this is something we do to try to
romanticize death because like we say, oh he went peacefully
in his sleep, or we don't know he died of
natural causes. Yeah, it's natural to die.
Speaker 2 (01:39:49):
Cocaine's natural.
Speaker 13 (01:39:53):
My mom's boyfriend he had a heart attack and he
had a stroke once and he when he was in
the hospital he had a open heart surgery, died on
the table three different times. And he said that he
(01:40:13):
remembers all he remembers from that moment was seeing his dad,
who had since passed away, and he was shaking his
head no at him when he saw him. And then
he came to and there was doctors and nurses all
around him bringing him back to life, and he felt
(01:40:36):
like it was his dad saying, it's not your time.
Sure you're you're not ready.
Speaker 11 (01:40:40):
I would imagine in those moments, you have moments like
that that feel that way.
Speaker 13 (01:40:44):
But he didn't die, No, he did not, So we
don't know, right, but lost him, We lost it. We
would bring you back three times during your surgery.
Speaker 2 (01:40:54):
Yeah, amazing story.
Speaker 12 (01:40:57):
I wouldn't doubt that. It like proverbially flashes behind. But
like they said in the article, you know you're just
bringing up memories. You know, probably your body knows you're dying.
Your brain knows you're dying, right, so it probably I
don't know. I'm not a scientist, but I could see
it happen. And where it's like, just start remembering everything
(01:41:17):
that's ever not maybe not everything because that's a lot,
you know, depending on when you die, but uh, start
remembering a lot of things, maybe spanning all the way
back to your your childhood, yeah, and then up to
current and then the.
Speaker 11 (01:41:32):
Yeah, I don't think it does that. How long would
all that take? I would think a while, right, Yeah?
And I think the example they have of the person
getting a scan, maybe they were dreaming, they dreaming already, yeah,
possibly right, Rather maybe that that was already happening, like
when you're sitting at a stop line and you just
kind of think about stuff. If you're getting a brain scan,
(01:41:53):
you're probably laying there like DEEPIDRP deep and dorpe, Yeah,
thinking about things. And again, the other part of the
this is that we're u This suggests that the brain
may have been taking a stroll down memory may right
does it mean it? And then the other one uh
linked to the retrieval linked not does linked?
Speaker 2 (01:42:15):
A lot of there'sn't some vague words.
Speaker 12 (01:42:17):
Right, Well, I mean, they haven't gone and done enough
studying of it yet. This is a preliminary so they're
just basing what they've found off of knowledge of what
they already have.
Speaker 11 (01:42:30):
No, I understand that, but they're not they're not saying
with certainty. They're not saying it does well.
Speaker 12 (01:42:33):
You can't say it was certainty yet because they haven't
proved it yet. They're still working on that orbon no.
Speaker 11 (01:42:38):
But they're saying flashed before your eyes. They're trying to
push a narrative. They're not saying the other things it's
linked to.
Speaker 2 (01:42:45):
Okay, what other things are I don't know.
Speaker 11 (01:42:47):
That's but that's what I'm saying. They're saying it's linked
to a possible outcome. They're not saying what it's linked to,
the other to the other things that it could be. Right,
they're only giving one answer.
Speaker 12 (01:42:56):
Yeah, maybe, I don't know. I think if you want
to believe it, go for it. Sure, whatever makes you feel.
Speaker 2 (01:43:01):
S sure, go ahead. If you want to believe your
aunts or uncle, go ahead. Yeah, it's completely fine. That's
where we're at in the world nowadays.
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Dammy, whatever, we're more people just want to believe any bulls.
They want to right, and other facts don't mean anything
to people anymore. No, man, all right, we got to
take a break.
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Speaker 11 (01:43:27):
When we come across stories about researchers, instead of focusing
on cancer, they focus on other silly things like this.
Researchers in Vancouver have decided to explore the phenomenon of
life flashing before your eyes prior to death. Okay, don't
I don't know how they do this, but says they
use data from a patient who had a heart attack
(01:43:49):
and died while undergoing a scan. For scientists, this is
a rare opportunity to record the brain at the moment
of death. What they found was that the patient's brain
went through a series of gamma oscillations before death, which
are quote linked to retrieval of memories and dreaming end quote.
(01:44:10):
It suggests that the brain may have been taking a
stroll down memory lane before finally calling it a lifetime.
I am of the camp that I don't believe that
your life flashes before your eyes like that. I think
this is something we do to try to romanticize death,
(01:44:33):
because like we say, oh he went peacefully in his sleep,
or we don't know he died of natural causes.
Speaker 2 (01:44:42):
Yeah, it's natural to die. Cocaine's natural.
Speaker 13 (01:44:48):
My mom's boyfriend he had a heart attack and he
had a stroke once and he when he was in
the hospital he had had a open heart surgery, died
on the table three different times. And he said that
he remembers all he remembers from that moment was seeing
(01:45:13):
his dad, who had since passed away, and he was
shaking his head no at him when he saw him.
And then he came to and there was doctors and
nurses all around him bringing him back to life, and
he felt like it was his dad saying, it's not
your time. Sure, you're not ready.
Speaker 11 (01:45:35):
I would imagine in those moments, you have moments like
that that feel that way. But he didn't die, No,
he did not, So we don't.
Speaker 13 (01:45:42):
Know, right, but we lost him, We lost it. We
would bring you back three times during your surgery.
Speaker 2 (01:45:49):
Yeah, amazing story.
Speaker 12 (01:45:52):
I wouldn't doubt that. It like proverbially flashes behind. But
like they said in the article, you know you're just
bringing up memories. You know, probably your body knows you're dying.
Your brain knows you're dying, right, so it probably I
don't know. I'm not a scientist, but I could see
it happen. And where it's like, just start remembering everything
(01:46:12):
that's ever not maybe not everything because that's a lot,
you know, depending on when you die, but uh, start
remembering a lot of things, maybe spanning all the way
back to your your childhood, yeah, and then up to
current and then.
Speaker 11 (01:46:25):
The Yeah, I don't think it does that. How long
would all that take? I would think a while, right, yeah?
And I think the example they have of the person
getting a scan, maybe they were dreaming, they dreaming already yeah,
possibly right, Rather maybe that that was already happening, like
when you're sitting out a stop line and you just
kind of think about stuff. If you're getting a brain scan,
(01:46:48):
you're probably laying there like deep and dorp deep and dirpe, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:46:51):
Thinking about things.
Speaker 11 (01:46:53):
And again the other part of this is that were
this suggests that the brain may have been taking stroll
down memory may right?
Speaker 2 (01:47:03):
Does it mean it?
Speaker 11 (01:47:04):
And then the other one uh linked to the retrieval
linked not does linked? A lot of there isn't some
vague words.
Speaker 12 (01:47:12):
Right, well, I mean they haven't gone and done enough
studying of it. Yet this is a preliminary so they're
just basing what they've found off of knowledge of what
they already have.
Speaker 11 (01:47:25):
No, I understand that, but they're they're not saying with certainty.
They're not saying it does well, you.
Speaker 12 (01:47:28):
Can't say it with certainty yet because they haven't proved
it yet. They're still working on that orbon no.
Speaker 11 (01:47:33):
But they're saying flashed before your eyes. They're trying to
push a narrative. They're not saying the other things it's
linked to. Okay, what other things are I don't know.
That's but that's what I'm saying. They're saying it's linked
to a possible outcome. They're not saying what it's linked to,
the other to the other things that it could be. Right,
they're only giving one answer.
Speaker 12 (01:47:51):
Yeah, maybe, I don't know. I think if you want
to believe it, go for it. Sure, whatever makes you
feel sa, sure.
Speaker 2 (01:47:56):
Go ahead. If you want to believe your aunts, your uncle,
go ahead. Yeah, it's completely fine. That's where we're at
the world nowadays.
Speaker 11 (01:48:01):
Dammy, whatever, we're more people just want to believe any
bulls they want to right, and the facts don't mean
anything to people anymore. No man, all right, we got
to take a break.
Speaker 2 (01:48:13):
We'll be back.
Speaker 15 (01:48:14):
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