August 14, 2024 • 6 mins
Dr. Matthew Grunkemeyer from OrthoCincy joined us to discuss Amarius Mims' pectoral strain and his timeline to return to the field.
We also talked about the injury suffered by Bengals wideout Charlie Jones, the contined complications Reds second baseman Matt McLain is dealing with, and a potentiall life-threatening injury suffered by an NFL wide receiver.
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We also talked about the injury suffered by Bengals wideout Charlie Jones, the contined complications Reds second baseman Matt McLain is dealing with, and a potentiall life-threatening injury suffered by an NFL wide receiver.
Learn more about OrthoCincy by going here.
Listen to the show live weekday afternoons 3:00 - 6:00 on ESPN1530.
Listen Live: ESPN1530.com/listen
Get more: https://linktr.ee/MoEgger
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Chat injuries with the experts from Orthos.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Since Orthos since he has specialists locations across the Try State,
they offer walk in Orthopedic urgent care walk in meaning
you don't need an appointment nine A to nine P
and Saturday's nine eight to one P. Learn more at
orthosinc dot com. That's Ortho ci NCY dot com. Doctor
(00:22):
Matthew Grunkeemeyer from Orthos, since he is with us, let's
begin with Amarus Mimes. So he suffers this injury, it's
a pectoral strain. Remind us what the pectoral muscle does.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
Yeah, the pectoral muscle is what helps you give somebody
a hug or a bear hug or in the case
of him, probably a tackle or defend a tackle.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
Are there for an injury like this? Are there different grades?
Speaker 3 (00:48):
Yes? There are. Any muscle injury. You can have a mild, moderate,
or severe muscle there and that's gonna be really what
dictates his recovery. Hopefully it's mild or moderate, with which
case he could be within a week or two.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
What is the normal course of treatment for an injury
like this?
Speaker 3 (01:05):
I mean it's really going to be your rest ice,
anti inflammatories, probably some physical therapy, maybe some e stem
or something to try to get that muscle, those muscle
fibers to heal up.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Are there any concerns based on what we know that
he'll be able to play at one hundred percent this season?
Speaker 3 (01:22):
I would think so. Yes, most muscle injuries that these
athletes can can fully recover from.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Are there risks if he attempts to play through pain?
Speaker 3 (01:31):
Probably not, as long as there's no structural damage.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Is a sports medicine physician, can you evaluate on the
sideline and determine in real time when an athlete strains
a peck muscle or do you need a series of
other tests?
Speaker 3 (01:47):
Yeah, most muscle injuries can be pretty acutely diagnosed. You
may not know the full extent of it without further
testing though.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
All right, so a strain pectoral, we're dealing with something
that doesn't make you think this could be the sort
of thing that really lingers too deep into the season.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
I wouldn't think so.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
All right, let's talk about Charlie Jones, wide receiver punt
returner who's dealing with a patella contusion. He suffered this
while banging knees.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
During a practice.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
What range of injuries typically come from one athlete banging
knees with another.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
Yeah, that's easy, a blunt trauma, and it could be
really painful if it gets down deep, and it's what
we call a bone bruise. It's hopefully more superficial. He
should bounce back from this within a week or two,
but a bone bruise can take a long time, even
as long as a month even six weeks to heal up,
especially at the level of a kneecap, So that'll be
(02:39):
kind of a wait and see thing. I didn't get
the privileged to look at his MRI, which might give
me a little more information there, so that'll definitely be
a wait and see. Thankfully, there's no structural damage liking
an injury that's reported.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
So is this typically something that you could you could
at least do some sort of physical activity while it heels.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
Yes, Yeah, it's another one of those where you can
kind of play through it. Of course, want to do
that safely, within the range of what it's comfortable is
so he doesn't go on to develop a stress fracture
or something more severe that would knock him out for
a while.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
All right, I want to ask you about another NFL
player dealing with an injury that might be for someone
like myself a bit of a tongue twister. Hollywood Brown,
Kansas City Chiefs wide receiver suffered a sterno clavicular joint dislocation.
I think I said that. Okay, I'm not going to
try it again. Tell me what that injury is.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
That's potentially life threatening injury. Wow. That is where the
collar bone meets sternum. And right behind there, of course,
is your major blood vessels that feed your next such
as a credit artery, your windpipe trick, yeah, you esophagus.
All those really important structures live right there. So we
usually don't see that from sports. It's usually like a
(03:51):
high grade car accident or really high time trauma. So
it just shows you the level of force that these
athletes are playing with. I don't know there are some
surgical techniques that they'll use to try to repair that
if it becomes chronically unstable, but my guess is he'll
be out for at least sixtieths twelve weeks because that's
(04:13):
a pretty serious injury.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
No, this this strikes me as a pretty big deal.
Not that not that the other injuries aren't, but you
talked about this being life threatening, kind of walk me
through during that timeline, what the treatments and the recovery
and rehab looked like.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
My guess is he'll be in a sling for an
extented period of time to allow those ligaments to heal,
and then they'll do some type of you know, imaging
or stress testing to see if the ligaments around the
joint have healed and if so, he may be able
to resume play. But like I said, I would put
this on the longer end of recovery than short.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
All right, one more to ask you about Matt McClain
of the Reds. We have been dealing with this all
year long. Suffered cartilage dabber, cartilage damage and a laboram
tear in his left shoulder that was the original injury
suffered back during spring training. He has been ramping up
toward returning and doing a rehab assignment that has been
put on ice for a while because he is dealing
(05:06):
with a stress reaction in his rib cage. He's had
oblique strains before. Let me let me start with that.
Could the rib cage stress reaction be related to the
oblique injury with him that we talked about last year.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
Yeah, it could be most likely. I mean, that's what
the attachments are for those and just his whole you know,
kind of the way he's torquing his four acts and
in order to get the force that he needs to
propel the ball is going to be probably an issue there.
(05:40):
And you know, also with the damage to the labrum
is throwing, the kicks are probably a little different. So yeah,
these are all these are all issues that would probably
be best tread with some time off.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
And in my opinion, it's mid August.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
The season ends in a month and a half. I
think most of us as fans, we kind of throw
our hands up and go, look, Matt, we'll see in
goodyear next February. Don't worry about twenty twenty four. Let's
work with an I toward twenty twenty five. From a
medical professionals perspective, is that a valid opinion?
Speaker 3 (06:11):
I think it is. Yeah. I mean, I'm gonna refer
to his treatment team, but yeah, they got to be
very reasonable decision for.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
Him to make good stuff.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
There. You go.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Appreciate the time. As always, we do this usually on Wednesdays.
Today we did it on Tuesday. Dr Matthew Grnkeemeier from
Orthos Sincy say this all the time. The great thing
about the people at Rothos Sincy is they have specialist
locations across the tri State, which includes walkin orthopedic urgent
care during the week nine to nine, nine a to
nine p and on Saturdays nine am to one pm.
(06:40):
And Edgewood and Anderson, which is where I took my
daughter when she broke her foot. It's easier and cheaper
than going to an er when you have an urgent
orthopedic injury.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
Just go to Orthosinc dot com.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
That's ortho ci Ncy dot com.
Chat injuries with the experts from Orthos.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Since Orthos since he has specialists locations across the Try State,
they offer walk in Orthopedic urgent care walk in meaning
you don't need an appointment nine A to nine P
and Saturday's nine eight to one P. Learn more at
orthosinc dot com. That's Ortho ci NCY dot com. Doctor
(00:22):
Matthew Grunkeemeyer from Orthos, since he is with us, let's
begin with Amarus Mimes. So he suffers this injury, it's
a pectoral strain. Remind us what the pectoral muscle does.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
Yeah, the pectoral muscle is what helps you give somebody
a hug or a bear hug or in the case
of him, probably a tackle or defend a tackle.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
Are there for an injury like this? Are there different grades?
Speaker 3 (00:48):
Yes? There are. Any muscle injury. You can have a mild, moderate,
or severe muscle there and that's gonna be really what
dictates his recovery. Hopefully it's mild or moderate, with which
case he could be within a week or two.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
What is the normal course of treatment for an injury
like this?
Speaker 3 (01:05):
I mean it's really going to be your rest ice,
anti inflammatories, probably some physical therapy, maybe some e stem
or something to try to get that muscle, those muscle
fibers to heal up.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Are there any concerns based on what we know that
he'll be able to play at one hundred percent this season?
Speaker 3 (01:22):
I would think so. Yes, most muscle injuries that these
athletes can can fully recover from.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Are there risks if he attempts to play through pain?
Speaker 3 (01:31):
Probably not, as long as there's no structural damage.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Is a sports medicine physician, can you evaluate on the
sideline and determine in real time when an athlete strains
a peck muscle or do you need a series of
other tests?
Speaker 3 (01:47):
Yeah, most muscle injuries can be pretty acutely diagnosed. You
may not know the full extent of it without further
testing though.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
All right, so a strain pectoral, we're dealing with something
that doesn't make you think this could be the sort
of thing that really lingers too deep into the season.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
I wouldn't think so.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
All right, let's talk about Charlie Jones, wide receiver punt
returner who's dealing with a patella contusion. He suffered this
while banging knees.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
During a practice.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
What range of injuries typically come from one athlete banging
knees with another.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
Yeah, that's easy, a blunt trauma, and it could be
really painful if it gets down deep, and it's what
we call a bone bruise. It's hopefully more superficial. He
should bounce back from this within a week or two,
but a bone bruise can take a long time, even
as long as a month even six weeks to heal up,
especially at the level of a kneecap, So that'll be
(02:39):
kind of a wait and see thing. I didn't get
the privileged to look at his MRI, which might give
me a little more information there, so that'll definitely be
a wait and see. Thankfully, there's no structural damage liking
an injury that's reported.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
So is this typically something that you could you could
at least do some sort of physical activity while it heels.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
Yes, Yeah, it's another one of those where you can
kind of play through it. Of course, want to do
that safely, within the range of what it's comfortable is
so he doesn't go on to develop a stress fracture
or something more severe that would knock him out for
a while.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
All right, I want to ask you about another NFL
player dealing with an injury that might be for someone
like myself a bit of a tongue twister. Hollywood Brown,
Kansas City Chiefs wide receiver suffered a sterno clavicular joint dislocation.
I think I said that. Okay, I'm not going to
try it again. Tell me what that injury is.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
That's potentially life threatening injury. Wow. That is where the
collar bone meets sternum. And right behind there, of course,
is your major blood vessels that feed your next such
as a credit artery, your windpipe trick, yeah, you esophagus.
All those really important structures live right there. So we
usually don't see that from sports. It's usually like a
(03:51):
high grade car accident or really high time trauma. So
it just shows you the level of force that these
athletes are playing with. I don't know there are some
surgical techniques that they'll use to try to repair that
if it becomes chronically unstable, but my guess is he'll
be out for at least sixtieths twelve weeks because that's
(04:13):
a pretty serious injury.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
No, this this strikes me as a pretty big deal.
Not that not that the other injuries aren't, but you
talked about this being life threatening, kind of walk me
through during that timeline, what the treatments and the recovery
and rehab looked like.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
My guess is he'll be in a sling for an
extented period of time to allow those ligaments to heal,
and then they'll do some type of you know, imaging
or stress testing to see if the ligaments around the
joint have healed and if so, he may be able
to resume play. But like I said, I would put
this on the longer end of recovery than short.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
All right, one more to ask you about Matt McClain
of the Reds. We have been dealing with this all
year long. Suffered cartilage dabber, cartilage damage and a laboram
tear in his left shoulder that was the original injury
suffered back during spring training. He has been ramping up
toward returning and doing a rehab assignment that has been
put on ice for a while because he is dealing
(05:06):
with a stress reaction in his rib cage. He's had
oblique strains before. Let me let me start with that.
Could the rib cage stress reaction be related to the
oblique injury with him that we talked about last year.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
Yeah, it could be most likely. I mean, that's what
the attachments are for those and just his whole you know,
kind of the way he's torquing his four acts and
in order to get the force that he needs to
propel the ball is going to be probably an issue there.
(05:40):
And you know, also with the damage to the labrum
is throwing, the kicks are probably a little different. So yeah,
these are all these are all issues that would probably
be best tread with some time off.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
And in my opinion, it's mid August.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
The season ends in a month and a half. I
think most of us as fans, we kind of throw
our hands up and go, look, Matt, we'll see in
goodyear next February. Don't worry about twenty twenty four. Let's
work with an I toward twenty twenty five. From a
medical professionals perspective, is that a valid opinion?
Speaker 3 (06:11):
I think it is. Yeah. I mean, I'm gonna refer
to his treatment team, but yeah, they got to be
very reasonable decision for.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
Him to make good stuff.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
There. You go.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Appreciate the time. As always, we do this usually on Wednesdays.
Today we did it on Tuesday. Dr Matthew Grnkeemeier from
Orthos Sincy say this all the time. The great thing
about the people at Rothos Sincy is they have specialist
locations across the tri State, which includes walkin orthopedic urgent
care during the week nine to nine, nine a to
nine p and on Saturdays nine am to one pm.
(06:40):
And Edgewood and Anderson, which is where I took my
daughter when she broke her foot. It's easier and cheaper
than going to an er when you have an urgent
orthopedic injury.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
Just go to Orthosinc dot com.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
That's ortho ci Ncy dot com.
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