8/26/24 - The Mo Egger Radio Show

Ja'Marr Chase is Back!!

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Practice yesterday on behalf of everybody on ESPN fifteen to thirty,
and excuse me, even some of our colleagues down the hall.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
I would like to say.

Speaker 1 (00:13):
Thank you to Jamar Chase for not practicing these last
four weeks, which has given us endless hours of conversation
that we might not have been able to engage and
had he actually been practicing. So thank you to Jamar.
Thank you for showing up to practice. Thank you for
ending right on time. By the way, all the conversations

(00:35):
about whether or not he's going to play week one,
if he's willing to extend his hold into a holdout,
is he going to play against the Chiefs week two?
Thank you for timing this in the most absolutely perfect
way you could. It's much appreciated that good afternoon. My
name is Mullegger. This is a ESPN fifteen thirty. First

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of all, thank you for listening. Secondly, hope you had
an awesome weekend and we have a lot of ground
to cover today. We have a lot of ground to
cover this week. We've got some red stuff later on,
We've got some UC stuff later on, maybe some Deon
Sanders stuff later on too. Plus Tony Pike with once
an hour season preview report at three forty five, four
forty five, and five forty five. And I just found

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out maybe forty minutes ago we have some Jason Isbel
tickets to give away as well. We'll do that in
the five o'clock hour. Bengals are practicing now. The public
portion of training camp is over. So if if you
want to go down and watch the Bengals practice, you're
gonna have to sneak in somehow. I do not encourage
you to do that. But the Bengals aren't practicing today.

(01:40):
Jamar Chase is there. He is practicing. Obviously, it's gonna
be a very busy next couple of days for the
Bengals because they've got to cut the roster down to
fifty three by four o'clock tomorrow, and then Boyd stands
to reason they're gonna be active and looking for perhaps
running back some ajp. Ryan's name keeps getting talked about,
and understandably so, have some offensive line help, perhaps some

(02:02):
defensive line help.

Speaker 2 (02:03):
Probably not really going to be.

Speaker 1 (02:05):
In the market for a wide receiver because well they're
said at that position, and Jamar Chase is back to
play that position. Look over the course of the last
few weeks. And by the way, show preview video is up.
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Speaker 2 (02:23):
Go to EMORYFCU dot org. Only one question really.

Speaker 1 (02:28):
Mattered over the last month, and that question was is
Jamar Chase willing to miss games? And the over riding
belief seemed to be that the answer is no, or
was no. Paul Danner Junior was on this show last
week and I asked him point blank, do you think Jamar,

(02:49):
and this is last Wednesday, do you think Jamar is
really willing to miss games? And Paul said no, no,
I don't And that's really the only thing that mattered here.
Was he willing to miss games? And maybe he was willing,
And maybe some things have happened over the last couple
of days that have pushed him to the practice field,

(03:10):
maybe him joining his teammates and going through some drills yesterday,
him practicing, maybe that signals that the two sides are
close to a deal getting done. Maybe they simply had
to wait for Ceedee Lamb's deal to get done, and
that was just announced a little while ago, he signs
a contract extension with the Dallas Cowboys, which makes him
the second highest paid non quarterback.

Speaker 2 (03:32):
In NFL history.

Speaker 1 (03:34):
If you want to dive into the nuts and bolts
of that contract, the internet is at your disposal.

Speaker 2 (03:38):
There's lots of people doing it. Who knows, and maybe
we'll never know, and maybe we'll know within the next
couple of days. But look, you and I as Bengals fans,
one thing really mattered, Okay, Jamar was always under contract
to play twenty twenty four with the Bengals.

Speaker 1 (03:55):
You and I knew that. It felt at times like
the conversation was almost twisted to make one believe, well,
he's got to sign his contract or else he's not
going to be under contract to the Bengals. That obviously
was never the case. He was always going to play
for the team of twenty twenty four. The question was, well,
was he gonna be willing to miss a game? Was

(04:16):
he gonna be willing to miss two games? Was he
gonna be willing to miss three, four or five six games?
How long would he be out for? And so he's back,
he's back, and what does it mean for the future.

Speaker 2 (04:29):
I have no idea.

Speaker 1 (04:30):
Here's what I can tell you that at the very
very very very heart of the Cincinnati Bengals identity is Joe,
Jamar and T. And that's gonna change because, barring something
totally unforeseen, this is gonna be t higgins last season

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in a Bengals uniform.

Speaker 2 (04:51):
But at the very heart of what they do.

Speaker 1 (04:55):
Say what you want about changes and improvements made to
the defense, Say what you want about how they've reshaped
the running back room. The very hard of what the
Bengals are is a passing football team that is really
hard to prepare for because they've got a couple of
absolute studs on the outside, Because they've got a wide
receiver who is one of the best two or three

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in the sport, along with another guy who was probably
somewhere in the top fifteen to twenty, if not more
exclusive than that. What makes the Bengals go is Joe
and Jamar and T. So here's the good news too
about this holdout man. It's not lore hold In, I
should say. It's not like he hasn't been around, right,

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It's not like he's missed a bunch of preseason game
reps with the other number ones. Because the other number
ones really didn't do anything in the last two preseason games,
and they were essentially on the field for one preseason
game for one series. And it's also not like there's
not a lot of time to get everybody on the

(06:04):
same page. I mean, there's still thirteen days between now
in the first game. The accounts, that is an eternity,
and it's a lot of time when you got a
guy who by all accounts, has been doing a good
job of keeping himself in shape, has been around the team,
has been around his teammates, has been working with some
of the other wide receivers, and so, you know, was

(06:25):
this an interesting side note to training camp? Was it
an interesting story for national NFL writers to lose their
minds over? Was it an interesting topic for those of
us who do sports talk radio shows. Absolutely, But the
Bengals get their best offensive weapon back on the practice

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field with two weeks to spare. He's healthy, he's got
a track record with the quarterback, and he's got plenty
of time to make up whatever lost time has been
put behind him with the benefit of two weeks before
the first game.

Speaker 2 (07:05):
This is a really good thing.

Speaker 1 (07:07):
Now, the Ceedee Lamb contract getting done which four years,
one hundred and thirty six million dollars thirty six up
front signing bonus. I will admit to you something I
said to Austin before his show ended at the top
of the hour.

Speaker 2 (07:24):
When when we start really getting into the the.

Speaker 1 (07:28):
Nitty gritty of contracts and how the money gets spread out,
how the contract is structured, I my eyes glaze over.
I get bored very very quickly. And so what does
Cede Lamb's deal mean for Jamar Chase. I don't know.
Here's going to be my default position. It's my default
position today and it's going to be my default position

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until the Bengals and Jamar get a deal done. And
I said until because I think it's a matter of
when and not if. But that win could be within
the next couple of days, and that when could be
right before the season opens, and that when could be
next offseason. Jamar Chase him showing up a practice is

(08:13):
an unsaid declaration that he's going to play for the
Bengals in twenty twenty four. And so since he has
made that unsaid declaration, and since he is also under
contract for twenty twenty five, I just don't know that
it's worth spending a lot of time and energy on
whether or not he's going to play for the Bengals
in twenty twenty six or twenty twenty seven, specifically because

(08:37):
a the owner of the team has already said the
deal is gonna get done, and b as much as
a lot of people perhaps do not want to admit this,
the team's track record with its absolute best players at
the position that values the most.

Speaker 2 (08:53):
Is really really good.

Speaker 1 (08:55):
And the track record is, you know, they take their
best players and get them extent when they have a
year left on their contract. Jesse Bates would be perhaps
a recent and notworthy exception, except they don't value safety
as much as they value some of the other positions.
By and large, the Bengals in their history say what

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you want about them, say what you want about how
they're run, what they've done, what they haven't done. For
the most part, they get deals done when there's a
year to go with their absolute best players they value
the most, and typically when it gets done, it comes
without the assurance from the owner that it is going
to get done. This time, with Jamar we have an

(09:37):
assurance that it is going to get done, and the
track record of these deals getting done, and plenty of
time for it to get done since Jamar Chase is
back on the practice field, which is a great thing.
The question we asked at the beginning of all this
from a Bengals perspective applies even more since he's back,

(09:58):
and since there's still are two years remaining on the deal,
what's the rush Ceedee Lamb gets a contract extension. The
dude only had one year remaining. Jamar's god too, So
my default position is going to be, Look, as long
as he is playing for the team, and as long
as he is not staging a hold in or a

(10:18):
hold out, as long as he's not being disruptive, which
I'm not really sure he's been disruptive, it's gonna happen.

Speaker 2 (10:26):
It's gonna get done.

Speaker 1 (10:27):
And if we see something that would suggest that's not
gonna happen, then, at least for me, I can't speak
for anybody else, my default position will change, but I'll
be I'll be honest man. As it relates to twenty
twenty four, there's a lot of other stuff that stands
out to me that matters right now. Since we've gotten
the answer as to whether or not Jamar is gonna

(10:48):
play Week one, and if in the interim they get
the deal done long term of Jamar Chase, then fine,
no one's gonna balk it that.

Speaker 2 (10:58):
But it just it's it's now.

Speaker 1 (11:00):
The more it gets written about and the more it
gets talked about, the more of a pressing issue it
gets made out to be that it's really not. And
I understand there's financial ramifications of Jamargo's out there and
has the best season of any wide receiver in football.
I get it, I do, But is there anybody who's
gonna have any issue with that happening, including the Bengals,

(11:21):
even if it has to mean they pay it just
a tiny little bit more.

Speaker 2 (11:25):
I don't know, man. So this is gonna continue to
be written about.

Speaker 1 (11:28):
God knows, it's gonna be a billion pieces about Jamar
Chase today because ceedee Lamb got a contract and if
Brandon I you in San Francisco reaching agreement, probably even
gonna be more Jamar Chase pieces or Jamar Chase references
around the country. But for me, now that I know
he's gonna play in twenty twenty four, this really slides

(11:49):
really low on the list of things I don't want
to say that I'm worried about, but that I have
questions about, or that I'll be thinking about, or that
I find interesting on the twenty twenty four Bengals. If
it gets done, fine, and if it doesn't get done
anytime soon, that's fine too, because both sides do still
have the benefit of time. Sixteen after three, our phone

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Red's over the weekend, UH lose three out of four

(12:36):
Andrew Abbott doesn't pitch. I guess they get some good
news with Hunter Green. I don't know if yesterday's loss
was a final nail in their postseason coffin. I kind
of feel like that's been a closed issue now for
a while, but it was frustrating for one specific reason.
We'll get to that coming up in just about twenty minutes.
Tony Pike's gonna join us at three forty five. We

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have an FC Cincinnati loss to sift through this team,
you know, made some good additions during the transfer window,
and yet still feels like it's trending in the wrong direction.
A to nothing loss where the offense was mostly non
existent against Miami on Saturday night, and the UC football
season starts on Saturday, and I think I've got an

(13:19):
optimistic way of looking at the season. I think it's
optimistic sound and you can tell me as the afternoon
rolls on. We have a lot of ground to cover.
Five point three seven four nine fifteen thirty. One of
my favorite NFL pieces came out today. It's about quarterbacks
NFL QB tiers. This is the best way to rank them.
Mike Sando from The Athletic included in the blurb about

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Joe Burrow. To me, is the central storyline to the
entire season. We'll get to that next on ESPN fifteen
thirty Cincinnati Sports.

Speaker 3 (13:51):
Station Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty Traffic.

Speaker 4 (13:57):
From the UC Health Traffic Center at the U Gardner
Neuroscience Institute.

Speaker 1 (14:02):
Canect dot com Go there now twenty two after three.
Mike Sando, NFL writer for The Athletic, spent years with
ESPN and going back to those days, has he's always
ranked NFL quarterbacks in tiers, tier one, tier two, and

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what he does and we've had Mike on the show,
and I think we're gonna try to get.

Speaker 2 (14:29):
In this week too.

Speaker 1 (14:30):
But he canvases surveys over fifty NFL coaches and executives
about NFL qbs and then based on that feedback, separates
them into tiers. And this is an exercise he did
for years, and he would often, you know, we would
often get him on to kind of talk about Andy

(14:51):
Dalton back in the day when we were all trying
to convince ourselves that Andy Dalton could still take his
game to another level, which sometimes happened, often didn't.

Speaker 2 (15:02):
Not that I want to give away.

Speaker 1 (15:03):
Mike's work, but he's got three quarterbacks in the top
tier of the NFL, Patrick Mahomes, Josh Allen, and Joe
Burrow and not in that order. It goes Patrick, Joe, Josh,
notable by his exclusion or notable for his exclusion, Lamar
Jackson just on the outside looking in at number four.
I like the way he does this because you don't

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remember when Joe Flacco and the Ravens won the Super
Bowl twelve years ago, and that immediately triggered this conversation about, well,
was Joe Flacco elite? And my response to that was no,
And that's okay. Like elite is the absolute best of
the best of the best of the best. You can't
have ten or twelve or fourteen elite quarterbacks in a

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thirty two team league. It doesn't work that way. There's
only a handful of elites in any field, and so
your elite, absolute best, Tier one upper crust guys can
really only be limited to a handful. Joe is among
that handful. Despite last season. Now it's worth pointing out
that he got forty three Tier one votes, which are

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six fewer than he got last year. Obviously, and understandably
so to a degree because of the injury that he
suffered last year that required surgery on his throwing list
or an English throwing wrist. Here's what one coach says, quote.
He is a cool, calm, collected, confident version of Kirk Cousins.

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He might have a little bit better arm strength, but
the skill set is very similar, except Burrow is not
an overthinker. He has this confidence that he's right and
he throws with that purpose and that confidence, and normally
he is right, says another head coach quote. He is
definitely a one. He is an accurate touch passer with anticipation,
but they got to be careful. He's getting hurt on

(16:57):
his throwing arm. Yeah, I have injuries to your legs,
like he's said, that will affect your arm. I'm curious
to see how the ball comes out of his hand
this year and and look like that's that's that's one
of the narratives. And and until until Joe Burrow stops
missing time because of injuries, then you can't help but
talk about him in relation to well injury durability, the

(17:19):
cumulative effect of all the injuries. Here is a quote
from a defensive coach, and again this is Mike Sandos
Qbtiarstheathletic dot Com quote. You love everything about him, but
at some point physically his body is going to fail.
Now he says that with certainty, and that to me
is it's it's the central storyline to the entire season.

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Joe has played only four years, but he's played four years.
In half of those seasons he hasn't gotten hurt during
the season, and in those seasons the Bengals have won
the AFC North, They've advanced the AFC Championship Game.

Speaker 2 (18:00):
But Joe doesn't get hurt during the season. This is
what happens.

Speaker 1 (18:03):
They make the playoffs, they win the division, they win
at least two games in the playoffs. In the other
fifty percent of his NFL seasons, injuries and his season
early this year, what is it going to be now?
You might say, well, you're you're being unfair if you
start with the injuries. Okay, fine, And you might say

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you're being a little bit naive if you only include
what the team does when he plays every single game.
To me, this season is it's important for a lot
of different reasons, right Like, at some point you got
to breakthrough and win it. I don't want to say
their window is going to close at the end of
the season, because I don't think it's necessarily gonna be
the case. But still there is a part of this
that feels like, especially with team moving on, maybe the

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age of the offensive line, like this season might represent
their best chance in a while.

Speaker 2 (18:50):
We will see.

Speaker 1 (18:52):
But you know, I go back to a year ago
at this time when a lot of us, myself included,
we're wondering about Lamar Jackson in Baltimore. Is he gonna
finish the season healthy at some point? Why can't he
finish the season healthy at some point? When are they
going to do a better job of giving him the
sort of weapons he could thrive with. When's he going
to be able to get through a full season? Well,
not only did he get through a full season, he

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won the MVP Award, which that MVP might suggest he
should be in the top tier of quarterbacks. But he
won the MVP, And while there are still fair questions
about his postseason performances, nobody's really talking about injury anymore.
A year ago, it's all anybody could talk about. Now
it gets brought up, maybe it doesn't lead the conversation.

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What this season is about from from the standpoint of
how we talk about the quarterback is do we shove
the injury conversations aside? Do we stop talking about them?
Do we stop fretting about their cumulative effect, their long
term impact? Injuries piling up, or if it's another season

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and I'm not talking about him suffering the normal bumps
and bruises of every quarterback in the league, referencing something
that's going to cause him to miss a lot of time,
referencing something that he's going to really have to struggle
to play through, or god forbid, something that's gonna well
end his season early. Again, to me, is the storyline
to the entire year. I've said often and with nobody

(20:22):
really challenging me on it, because it's not that bold
of a prediction. If Joe plays sixteen seventeen games, Bengals
make the playoffs. If Joe doesn't, then I think the
conversations really kicking the higher gear about what the long
term impact of all the injuries accumulating is going to be.

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And that's what this one coach references here. At some
point his body is going to fail. If by the
end of this season we're talking about another injury, there's
going to be a hell of a lot more people
who start the Joe Burrow conversation with sentences just like
that one that I read. And if he can get

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through the entire year without an injury, Number one, they're
a playoff team.

Speaker 2 (21:10):
You cannot convince me otherwise. Number two, it puts to bed,
at least.

Speaker 1 (21:16):
For a while, the discussions about what the long term
impact of all of these injuries are going to be
on a guy who still represents a very hefty and
heavy financial investment, much more so than whether or not
Jamar Chase gets his contract before this year, which would
start in twenty twenty six. That is the central storyline

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to the entire year, both in terms of what it
means for the Bengals success in twenty twenty four and
for how we talk about Joe Burrow as he enters
into the next decade or the next half decade, second
half of the decade. It's a Monday, easy for me
to say, three thirty sports headlines coming up. Tony Pike
Live season preview report that's coming up in fifteen minutes

(22:03):
on ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports Station.

Speaker 3 (22:06):
Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty. Traffic from the.

Speaker 4 (22:11):
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Speaker 2 (22:15):
You can end.

Speaker 1 (22:17):
Credit approval from their family to yours for life, kelseyshev
dot Com. Bengal's practicing today, Jamar Chase practicing today because
he plays for the team and he has apparently ended
his hold in Bengals Patriots. A week from Sunday Live
on ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati has to pare down the
roster to fifty three players by four o'clock tomorrow. They

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did cut loose one guy in advance of tomorrow's deadline.
Defensive end Justin Blazic. I know I sound incredibly distracted.

Speaker 2 (22:53):
I'm not.

Speaker 1 (22:54):
I could assure you I'm one hundred percent focused on
what I got to do here.

Speaker 2 (22:57):
There's just a lot of moving parts here in studio.
Defensive ends.

Speaker 1 (23:01):
Justin Blazezech rookie from Washington. I'm sorry, from Wisconsin, Plattville.
I wrote down Washington, Wisconsin, Plattevill. He had signed with
the Bengals as a college free agent in May. His
dream of being a twenty twenty four Bengal basically extinguished.

Speaker 2 (23:14):
Me. Meanwhile, Reds, they're off tonight.

Speaker 1 (23:17):
It goes to Oakland a'ce tomorrow in a rematch of
the nineteen seventy two and nineteen ninety World Series. Cincinnati
coming off a road trip that ended with a walk
off loss to the Pirates yesterday afternoon. They are now
seven and a half games out of the last wildcard spot. Transactionally,
Alan boussenitz As cleared waivers. He was outrighted to Triple

(23:39):
A Louisville Florence off tonight. FC Cincinnati note, according to
a Laurel Failure of Queens City Press, FC Cincinnati is
finalizing a deal to sign free agent center.

Speaker 2 (23:50):
Back Teenage Hodabee.

Speaker 1 (23:53):
Teenage is twenty eight years old, spent the previous three
seasons with the Houston Dynamo, had been playing with a
Turkish club. He is originally from Zimbabwe. And that would
be it for your local sports headlines. Hey, very quickly.
The Rads don't play tonight, which means that the players
can go off and do their own thing. Two of

(24:14):
them tonight will be in northern Kentucky. My friends at
hit Seekers Sports Cards are hosting a Hunter Green and
Nicoladolo signing tonight. It's at the Braxton Barrel House in
Fort Mitchell. It starts at six o'clock. I will be there,
not at six o'clock, but maybe like twenty after, depending

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on traffic. And you need a ticket, they're still available.
I tweeted out a link at Moeger. But you could
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I'm looking at it right now. There are still there's
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you could do both. Just got to hit Seekers card
breaks dot com and perhaps we'll see you there tonight

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at the Braxton Barrel House in Fort Mitchell. Thanks to
hit Seekers for putting this on phone calls. In just
a second, when you think of let's assume for just
a second, and we're gonna get back to the Bengals
here in a second. But for just a second, let's
assume that Joey Vodo is going to be a Hall

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of Famer. It doesn't take You don't have to stretch
yourself much to put yourself there. It feels like the
smart money is on him getting to Cooper's Town. He
would certainly get my vote. Let's assume for a second
that he will get enough votes to make him a
Hall of Famer, which means that the three most recent

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former Reds to get to Cooperstown, and if I've missed,
somebody correct me if I'm wrong, would be Vado twenty
twenty nine would be the earliest he can go on
the ballot, Vodo, Scott Rowland, who went in last year. Obviously,
Scott Rowland was not primarily a Red. You certainly don't

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think of him first and foremost as a Red. You'd
probably go Cardinal Philly and then Cincinnati, maybe Toronto and everybody.
He played for the Reds for not an insignificant amount
of time. It was an All Star here, Scott Roland
and then Barry Larkin. Barry inducted in twenty twelve, excuse me,
not in the first ballot, but got in Hall of

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Famer eighteen year career. When you think of those players,
what one word comes to mind that they have in.

Speaker 2 (26:41):
Common with each other.

Speaker 1 (26:46):
Let's take that word and apply it to Elie dela Cruz.
Think about it for a second, think of all three guys. Now,
you might be a little bit young to have remembered
Barry Larkin in his prime, but still it's not that
hard to think about him as a player and use
this one word as a descriptor that I think would

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apply to Scott Rowland and would apply to Joey Vado.

Speaker 2 (27:14):
I want to apply it to Ellie de la Cruz.

Speaker 1 (27:17):
That coming up in the four o'clock hour plus, We've
got some UC stuff to get to as well. Tony Pike,
with the first season preview report, joins us at three
forty five to talk about We'll get to Jamar Chase.
I'm not sure there's a more interesting player on the
team than Jermaine Burton. We'll get Tony's thoughts on whether

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or not Jermaine Burton can somehow, some way climb the
depth chart once the season actually begins. That coming up
here in just a bit. First, Drew, you're on ESPN
fifteen thirty. Thank you for your patients.

Speaker 5 (27:49):
How are you doing great? Well?

Speaker 6 (27:52):
I just want to chime in about the Joe Burrow
injury and prevacist for with a little bit of comparing
him to another player. Has anyone ever talked to you
about Chad Kelly's risk injury?

Speaker 2 (28:07):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (28:08):
Do you remember Chad Kelly, Ole Miss quarterback. Yeah, apparently
he had a similar injury to Burrows. I don't believe
it was all the way to torn. I think it
was partially torn maybe Scaffo Lunei, but his he that
happened I believe in twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen. As far

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as how Joe Burrow will play this year with the wrist,
I feel like we might see at times some accuracy issues.
But as far as Chad Kelly goes how he turned
out two or three years down the road, I'm pretty
sure he just pour it up in the CFO, was
won the Great Cup. I think may have even been

(28:51):
the MVP, and has bounced back completely.

Speaker 5 (28:55):
And I'm pretty sure that the surgery.

Speaker 6 (28:57):
Was, if not the same, very similar, because I know
he couldn't throw for three months after.

Speaker 1 (29:04):
Yeah, and for what it's worth, he was he was
named the most outstanding Player, if I'm not mistaken in
the CFL season ago correct twenty twenty three. Yes, yeah,
I suppose, Like I don't know if anybody is going
to be stunned, if in part because of his relatively
poor track record early in the season, in part because

(29:27):
you know, maybe he's not quite where he needs to
be relative to you know, when.

Speaker 2 (29:32):
He's been at his best.

Speaker 1 (29:33):
I don't think it'll surprise anybody of Joe Lax the
sort of sharpness we're all hoping to see from him
in Week one, right, Like, I don't think that would
come as much of a surprise to anybody.

Speaker 2 (29:46):
I think the fact though that.

Speaker 1 (29:47):
He threw almost uninterrupted during training camp, he did have
some bad days, and the fact that he played in
a preseason game would tell you that they believe and
my money is on him being at least good enough
early and the schedule is easy enough early minus the
Kansas City game that I kind of feel like it's
plausible to think that maybe we go through something like

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last year where Joe starts to peak around early to
mid October and starts to play really well, but hopefully
the team has more wins behind him when that happens
than they did a season ago.

Speaker 2 (30:20):
Does that make sense?

Speaker 7 (30:22):
It does?

Speaker 6 (30:24):
I just want to what if I don't want Actually,
I don't want to ask this question.

Speaker 8 (30:30):
If if Joe does start slow and the accuracy is there,
and and I do agree that he could, you know,
your prediction is probably pretty accurate.

Speaker 5 (30:41):
That's when he's going to be peak.

Speaker 9 (30:44):
But that Jake Browning.

Speaker 6 (30:45):
You know, last year our question was, well, if we
would have started Jake Browning in those first four games,
we might be in a way better position right now. Uh,
as far as making the playoffs and whatnot. I think
Joe Burrow should start. I would he concerned if he didn't.

Speaker 9 (31:01):
But at what point, you know, if he.

Speaker 6 (31:03):
Has a bad week one against the Patriots, and then
we're at we squeak out a win and we're all
looking at each other saying, what do we do here?
Did the conversation come up, or are you given him
two or three weeks before we start having that conversation.

Speaker 1 (31:17):
I think you would have to give him some time
because you're assuming now. I mean, look, if if physically
he is reporting week by week more and more pain
and you're to the point where physically like we've got
to sit him just so he physically can heal, well,
you're a lot more comfortable not pushing through that pain
because you have an established quarterback and Jake Browning that

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wasn't really established.

Speaker 2 (31:41):
A year ago.

Speaker 1 (31:42):
I think at that point it becomes about Joe's pain threshold.
If it's look, he's still he's getting sharper, and he's
gonna benefit from the in game reps, and because of
those in game reps, he's he's gonna really be the
quarterback we all hope to see in October. Then you
allow him to work through that stuff and allow him
to use those games as essentially his preseason games.

Speaker 2 (32:04):
But if week by week he's.

Speaker 1 (32:05):
Reporting more and more discomfort, more and more pain, and
it feels like the pain is getting in the way
of him being a productive player and it can only
change if there's rest, well, then you're gonna make a change,
and you're a little bit more willing to do so
because of what you saw Jake do last year.

Speaker 6 (32:23):
Yeah, I just hope we don't get there.

Speaker 5 (32:28):
I hope it doesn't come to that.

Speaker 6 (32:29):
I hope he's sharp, and I think he will be.

Speaker 5 (32:32):
And the reason I called was.

Speaker 6 (32:34):
Because I wanted people know kind of about the Chad
Kelly and injury, because I know that when the first
happens like well, we've never had a quarterback to try
to recover like this, we don't know how they're going
to recover. I think he's going to bounce back, just buying.
I have all the faith in the world in Burrow.

Speaker 5 (32:48):
But before people start.

Speaker 6 (32:49):
Coming at me and say, oh, you know, I don't
have faith, I have all the faith in Burrow, and
Burrow we trust. But thanks for taking my call, MOP.

Speaker 1 (32:56):
Yeah, you know, And I admit that I don't know
nearly as much. I mean, and Chad Kelly is been
a bonehead off the field. I don't know nearly as
much about his injury situation. What I can tell you is,
as Joe Burrow went through the entire offseason program, he
got through training camp, this was his best and most
clean uh, most normal training camp he has ever had.

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He looked fine in the first preseason game. There is
a part of me that wishes we had a little
bit more of him in a competitive environment to go by,
but we don't. You know, just the way the NFL works,
I think it would be unsurprising if Joe Burrow plays
a little flat in the first game. I also have

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watched Joe enough that I certainly wouldn't discount him playing
out of his mind good.

Speaker 2 (33:41):
But I don't know.

Speaker 1 (33:44):
I'm I'm operating under the assumption that by the time
we get to early October, we will see the Joe
we started to see in early October last season.

Speaker 2 (33:52):
We are late Tony Pike next to ESPN.

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Speaker 1 (34:07):
So Over the last couple of weeks, we've been doing
these Bengals training camp reports three forty five, four forty five,
and five forty five. Tony Pike has been with us
live from practice. He has been giving us training camp
reports when the Bengals haven't been practicing. He has been
giving us Bengals training camp reports when they have games
that aren't practicing. These are not training camp reports, but
we're still talking with Tony. Three forty five, four forty five,

(34:27):
and five forty five. These are season preview reports, Tony?
Are you excited to preview the season every day?

Speaker 5 (34:34):
I can't wait to preview the season and I can't
help but wonder, MO, is this what Jamar Chase was
waiting for? Yes, we'll see waiting for the transition from
camp reports to season preview reports, for us to be
able to start talking more about him in a positive
light and how he can help this team win the
ultimate goal, which is a Super Bowl.

Speaker 11 (34:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (34:53):
Look, I mean for all of the back and forth
over the last couple of weeks, one question loomed over everything,
and that was is he willing to miss games? The
fact that he's been at practice now and is working
out and going through his paces with his teammates would
suggest the answer is no. And so what happens next
with Jamar? I have no idea, but he's gonna be
on the field when the Bengals played the Patriots in

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thirteen days.

Speaker 5 (35:14):
Yeah, talked about the two week lead up multiple times
during camp. That's about the time frame you need. You know,
we could dive into more of what was really the
plan of the whole day. Is there a deal close?
We don't know that yet, but you know, it's amazing.
I was thinking when I saw the news yesterday of
how small all the other roster concerns now seen, Like

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when Jamar Chase was a question mark, a lot of
other questions, Okay, is the secondary good enough? Is a
defensive line good up? Now it feels like all of
those are a little bit of an afterthought because you
start to kind of peel back and see really the
high end of what this offense and this roster has.

Speaker 1 (35:50):
I want to stay at the wide receiver spot, and
obviously there's lots of things that could happen with Jamar Chase.
Maybe the fact that he's back in practice would signal
that a deal can get done here very soon.

Speaker 2 (36:00):
We'll find out.

Speaker 1 (36:01):
You and I spent a lot of time talking about
Jermaine Burton, who when he was on the field in
the preseason against guys who are not going to be
in the NFL for the most part was outstanding. And
yet you can't help but notice when he's out there,
it's late in games. He's not running He's certainly not
running with the ones. He's not running with the twos.
He's running with the deep backup. So obviously he's got
a lot of physical gifts. Obviously there's stuff off the field,

(36:24):
stuff in terms of preparation, maturity, maybe not falling asleep
in meetings that he has to address. So where he
is on the dep chart is he's going to make
the team, right, He's at least going to be on
the practice squad, But he's going to make the team.
Whether he dresses on game day, you know, we'll find out.
But he is behind andre Yoshabash, he is behind Trent Irwin,
he is behind Charlie Jones.

Speaker 2 (36:44):
During the season.

Speaker 1 (36:46):
How does a guy like that work his way up
the dep chart when there are no injuries?

Speaker 5 (36:50):
Well, I mean, I agree with you. I don't think
he is going to be active to start the season.
I do think he makes the team just because what
you drafted him at. But it does start to slow
down a little bit if you are a rookie wide
receiver once you get into the regular season because it
now shifts from install, install, install, install to game plan specific,
so the playbook actually will shrink a little bit during

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the season. During training camp, you want to put in
as much as humanly possible. During game week you kind
of tailor your playbook to what's gonna work best against
the opposing defense that you're playing. So the game plans
are a little bit smaller, which means he's not gonna
have to remember as much. And while a lot of
that is working, you're doing scout team. He's gonna have

(37:34):
a chance to become a pro mentally because the game
will slow down. And I don't think he's helped himself,
but when you're not helping yourself and the game is
moving in a thousand miles per hour, you can find
it easy to see why someone would get behind. I
think at the root of it all for Jermaine Burton, though,
is the fact that he has made plays when given
the opportunity, So no one's gonna question him as a playmaker.

(37:55):
No one's gonna question him as a guy that good things
are gonna happen when he gets the ball, being the
right spot to get the ball, and I think that's
where a little bit of the understanding of slowing down
the season will help him. Caleb Williams in Hard Knocks
last week was asked that, you know, are you nervous
about the game? What do you think about game and practice?
And Kayler Williams said, what I learned is that practice

(38:18):
is way harder than the game, and a lot of
times that's true. So hopefully in the setting like that,
that helps Jermaine Burton as the season goes on. Since
he's our season preview reports, maybe he can help the
team later in the season.

Speaker 2 (38:29):
Yeah, I hope.

Speaker 1 (38:30):
So Tony Pike back with this for another season preview
report coming up at four forty five.

Speaker 2 (38:35):
Tony working on his off day.

Speaker 1 (38:37):
He was not on since he three to sixty today,
but he will be back tomorrow with Austin Elmore from
noon to three and of course season preview reports on
our show every afternoon three forty five, forty five and
five forty five. We are getting closer to Sunday, September
the eighth Bengals Patriots from the venue originally known as
Paul Brown Stadium.

Speaker 11 (38:58):
That came.

Speaker 2 (38:58):
We'll kick off at one o'clock.

Speaker 1 (38:59):
We've got for you live on ESPN fifteen thirty a
pregame cover. It starts on Sunday morning, a week from
Sunday from the Holy Grail at nine a m. Jamar
Chay's practicing full participant at Bengals practice today and so
now we wait to see if they get a deal

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done between now in the beginning of the season. I
am going to give the Bengals credit for something that
many will not and the word that I want to
apply to Elie Dela Cruz on ESPN fifteen thirty He's sports.

Speaker 12 (39:35):
I'm Doug Brown One. Dallas Cowboys drama ends today. Wide
out Ceed Lamb has a new four year contract that
starts next year. The story first reported by ESPN's Adam Schefter.

Speaker 13 (39:47):
Dallas always wanted to resign CD. He always wanted to
be back in Dallas. They just could not come to
a meeting on a common number. Well, today they figured
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thirty eight million dollars signeymonis Adam Schefter.

Speaker 12 (40:05):
This new deal pays Lamb thirty four million a year,
second only to Justin Jefferson of the Vikings among wide outs.

Speaker 2 (40:12):
The Seahawks make.

Speaker 12 (40:13):
A trade today to get pass rusher Trevis Gibson from
the Jaguars. Jacksonville gets a sixth round pick. Seattle's Uchenna
Nuosu will miss two to six weeks with a knee sprain.
Tuesday is final cuts day. Rosters will be down to
fifty three players by four pm Eastern Tomorrow. Wisconsin defensive
lineman James Thompson Junior could miss the entire season after

(40:36):
surgery for what the team's calling an upper body injury.

Speaker 14 (40:41):
Hey, it's Courtney Cronin coming up Tuesday on on Sportsmanlike,
The drama continues to swirl around Jerry Jones and the
Dallas Cowboys. Will they get everything figured out before week one?
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Speaker 2 (41:10):
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Speaker 1 (41:17):
Mine is, although I think the microphone's about to fall
off the stand.

Speaker 2 (41:23):
We'll find out.

Speaker 1 (41:24):
We'll find out a Jamar Chase back in practice today.
And so now the Bengals and Jamar have until the
start of the season to get.

Speaker 2 (41:32):
A deal done because we're not going to negotiate with
him during the season.

Speaker 1 (41:36):
And if they do and he has a if he
if they don't get a deal done and he has
a great year, and then it's going to go up
the asking price even more. And so I do I
do understand why there is a great desire to see
the Bengals pay Jamar Chase now versus is what they

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would have to pay him if he blew up and
had an even bigger season in twenty twenty four. Okay, fine,
he's gonna play Week one for the Bengals and we'll
see what this means. We'll see what this means. I
frankly think there are other more. Look, Jamar Chase is

(42:22):
there first or second best player. I put them behind
Joe Burrow. Mike Brown himself put them behind Joe Burrow.
He is at the heart of who they are and
what they want to be and who they've been when
they're really good. And we all understand that. I'm really
hyper focused on twenty twenty four and Jamar is gonna

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play week one of twenty twenty four, so that, to
me is all that matters the most. More from a
Tony Pike coming up at four forty five Season Preview
Report Season Preview Report. Uh, I don't know if it
really makes all that much sense to dissect what happened
this weekend in Pittsburgh. They lose the Reds do on

(43:10):
a walk off homer by Yasmani grand Doll, twelve years
after they traded him. Yesterday, they lose a game on
Friday where they had a five nothing lead early.

Speaker 2 (43:21):
I guess they've gotten some good news as.

Speaker 1 (43:23):
It relates to Hunter Green, and there are gonna be
some good, healthy discussions about whether or not the Reds
should give Hunter Green a chance to pitch this season.
They have thirty one games to go. He's gonna miss
more starts. But once the inflammation dies down, does it
make all that much sense to put him out there?

Speaker 2 (43:41):
I can go back and forth on that.

Speaker 1 (43:43):
Obviously, Andrew Abbott's gone on the inter list with a
shoulder strain, and so a lot of just not good,
although in the case of Hunter Green at least not
as bad as maybe we had feared.

Speaker 2 (43:56):
Which is good.

Speaker 1 (43:59):
But yesterday Ellie Delacruz got picked off in the ninth inning. Now,
who knows if the ninth inning unfolds differently if he
doesn't get picked off.

Speaker 2 (44:09):
But he got picked off in the ninth.

Speaker 1 (44:11):
Inning with the Reds leading by a run, and he
got picked off by Paul Skeens on Thursday, Paul Skeen's
first ever big league pickoff. Red's are second in baseball
in pickoffs. And he got thrown out at second base
the game last Wednesday, they won despite losing six nothing,

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But in a six nothing game at the time, Ellie
dela Cruz got thrown out at second base trying to
stretch a single into a double. Now, let me get
a couple of things out of the way. Number One,
I love Ellie de la Cruz. Often this year I've
been the guy buying the fake Ellie Delacruze stock love
watching him play. Love is upside, cannot wait to see

(44:56):
what he has in store, hopefully for an even bigger,
better static season from the Reds. Starting shortstop in twenty
twenty five, And I said starting shortstop because that's his position.
Number Two, I want the Reds to run the bases aggressively.
I want them to steal bases. We all do, right.

(45:17):
We don't want station to station. This team can't afford
to play station to station. And you understand with that
style it does. It does lend itself to making more
outs on the bases. Getting picked off is not being aggressive.
Getting thrown out at second base when your team is
down by six runs is not aggressive.

Speaker 2 (45:37):
It's stupid.

Speaker 1 (45:39):
So I say this as an Elie de la Cruz
stan as they say, I mentioned this before. When you
think of let's assume Joey Vado goes into the Hall
of Fame, and frankly, even if he doesn't, we can
still do this exercise. But there's a very good chance
he goes into the Hall, and if he does, the
three most recent reds that will have gotten to Cooperstown

(45:59):
Joe Scott Roland, Barry Larkin. Now, Rolling and Larkin are different,
Ellie de la Cruz and Larkin are different than Roland
because those are I'm sorry, I screwed this up. Joey
Voto and Barry Larkin are different because they've played their
entire careers in Cincinnati. Scott Roland spent a brief amount
of time in Cincinnati, not an insignificant amount of time

(46:21):
three plus years, had a good impact on the team,
but you know it wasn't in Cincinnati, was what he
was in Saint Louis or Philadelphia. But still, when you
think of those three players, how they played, how they hit,
how they ran the bases, the plays they made in
the field, doesn't the word smart come to mind? Like

(46:49):
I watched Barry Larkin from the time that I was
nine years old until I was in my mid twenties,
and terrific athlete, great range, hit her, lots of physical skills,
could steal bases, could run, cover a lot of ground.
But smart ballplayer, high IQ guy usually did the right thing.

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When I think of Joey Vado again, elite skill set,
different type of player, not a great defensive player, but
a smart player, smart hitter, maybe the smartest hitter I've
watched since Tony Gwinn, Studious, intelligent, high baseball IQ. When

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Scott Roland got inducted, and again, Scott Roland spent just
a fraction of his career in Cincinnati, but when he
got inducted, one of the things I read about was
him talking about the immense pride he took in his
base running, because base running was about using your brain intellect,

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really having a good gauge of who the opponent is,
under standing game situation. It's not the fastest player, but
a very good base runner. But being a good base
runner is not about being fast. It's about knowing when
to take the extra base when not to. When you
think of Scott Rolling, the player smart high baseball IQ

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always did the right thing. Those guys always did the
right thing with the ball, usually did the right thing
on the bases. So here, with Elie de la Cruz,
you have a guy with intensely great physical gifts. We
know what they are, and as he continues to refine
them and develop them, the numbers are only going to

(48:44):
be bigger and better. At least that's the expectation.

Speaker 2 (48:48):
And with the accumulation of experience is with any feel,
the longer you do something, the more intellect you gain,
the smarter you become. What I'm looking for to.

Speaker 1 (48:59):
Happen next with Ellie is for there to not be
as many instances where I throw the remote control across
the room because he's gotten thrown out trying to stretch
a single into a double when his team is down
by six.

Speaker 2 (49:15):
Or he's not getting picked off as much.

Speaker 1 (49:17):
There has to be a I think, a very clear
understanding of how to force the issue, how to maybe
intimidate your opponents, how to be aggressive, how to rattle
the other picture, all that stuff, while at the same
time not giving away ouse, not running your team out
of an inning. I need the baseball IQ to go up.

(49:43):
If that sounds to you like I'm calling him dumb,
I can't help you. I'm not to me. It's oftentimes
kind of the next step, right. The more you do something,
the smarter about it, the more you know about it,
the more knowledgeable you become, better prepared you are. That's
gotta happen with Elie Dela Cruz. Nobody wants to take

(50:04):
away his aggressiveness. Nobody wants to take away his ability
to do things that other guys simply cannot do. There
is a part of him that you'll accept being daring
more than anybody else.

Speaker 2 (50:16):
Because physically he could afford to be.

Speaker 1 (50:19):
Like, if we're going to do this thing where we wonder, Okay,
can Eli be an MVP? Can he really be considered
among the very best in the game. What I'd like
to attach to him is the same word that I've
attached to the three guys who are likely to be
the three most recent Reds to go to Cooperstown. I
have no idea if Ellie de la Cruz is ever
gonna be good enough to go to Cooperstown. It's way

(50:39):
way too premature to even go down that road. But
I think there's great value in being a high IQ player.
I think one of the reasons why Larkin and Rowland
specifically got to Cooperstown is high IQ players. Yes they
did great things statistically. Yes they won Gold Gloves, Yes
they had a signature more. Yes they reach certain statistical

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plateaus that might not be three thousand hits or five
hundred home runs but are still pretty impressive nonetheless, but
I would be willing to bet that what won some
voters over was those guys are really smart, high IQ
type guys. That's kind of what's next for me when
it comes to Elie, blend the physical tools with a

(51:23):
higher understanding of well how to play and when not
to run and when two run and how to not
get picked off base. Some of these things that he's
doing might be a byproduct of being twenty two years
old and being relatively short on experience, and I'll buy that,
but I'd like to think that next year, along with

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hoping that he can produce even more from a statistical standpoint,
we start to talk about a player whose baseball IQ
high baseball IQ stands out more than it has this year.
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Speaker 1 (52:37):
So is Tony Pike. But you don't have to wait
thirty minutes to hear him. Cut down day tomorrow four o'clock.
Danner's gonna be here tomorrow, Paul Danner Junior. In the
four o'clock hour or three o'clock hour leading up to
and let's be honest, by the time, by the time
Paul's here at three zero five tomorrow, We're gonna have
a pretty strong sense of who the Bengals have cut, who's.

Speaker 2 (52:59):
Been cut around the NFL.

Speaker 1 (53:01):
I mean, like, look, man, the Jamar Days thing is
going to dominate, and I totally understand it. Right, that's
a key player, signature player, one of the faces of
the franchise. Wide receiver contracts. People love talking about wide
receiver contracts. Dudes under contract for twenty twenty four? Is
the running back room finished?

Speaker 2 (53:23):
You know?

Speaker 1 (53:23):
I'll take something that Dana Rode way back and I
think May or June where he was kind of looking
at every position going in a training camp and kind
of made the assessment that's a spot that sort of
looks unfinished, not completely whole.

Speaker 2 (53:37):
I still kind of feel that way offensive line depth,
I'll be honest, when the backups played. Take Jackson Carman
out of the equation and he's not with the team anymore.
But boy, there was a lot to like from att Lee.
There was a lot to like from Jackson Kirkland. They
didn't run the ball effectively during the preseason.

Speaker 1 (53:57):
They had Trey Von Williams in the last game again
and against the Colts had some nice runs, but I
thought the backups on the offensive line held up pretty well. Still,
as we say, you can never have enough quality offensive lineman.
Does someone become available after four o'clock tomorrow that would

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peak their interest is their help on the interior of
the defensive line, you know, one of the positions where
you go back to the last part of the season
last year when we all talked about what the Bengals
priorities are going to be in the draft, in free agency,
you know, and it was, you know, getting better on

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the interior of the defensive line.

Speaker 2 (54:44):
And you know, maybe they have been.

Speaker 1 (54:46):
I am excited to see what Chris Jenkins can do,
but McKinley Jackson is hurt. Still feels like they could
use a guy and maybe the same on on the
edge as well, And so you know, all those things.
I do not want to diminish the importance of Jamar
Chase's contract getting done and his importance to this team

(55:10):
down the road. But you know, as much as you
might worry, well, if he goes out without a new
deal and goes out and has a killer season this
coming year, next year, he comes to the negotiating table
with the ability to ask for more money than even
he's asking for right now. This might be a bit

(55:31):
of a naive question. Is it really gonna be worth
that much more money? And what the Bengals have, and
haven't they already prepared at least a contingency for what
that deal could look like assuming they don't get one
done now. The other thing that was asked to me,

(55:54):
Austen Elmore asked when I was a part of his
show late in since he three to sixty, what got
accomplished here?

Speaker 2 (55:59):
I don't know. I mean to a degree.

Speaker 1 (56:04):
Training camps are often defined by which players get hurt, right,
Jamar Chase got through a large chunk of training camp.
It's technically continuing right now, I guess. But he got
through the preseason without getting hurt. Health is such a
big part of his team. It's not like he missed
a lot of reps in the preseason that he would
have gotten with the ones because they didn't play the

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ones in the preseason. He got to make a point.
He got to make a point, and he perhaps has
compelled the Bengals to look a little bit differently at
a guy like him than they have any other player
like him. That's not Joe Burrow. I don't know, but
he did get a chance to publicly make a point

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and publicly make a point without being uber disruptive, without
making a show of himself, without spouting off on social
media or anything like that. He got to make a
point all while being engaged with his teammates, engaged with
his coaches in the meeting room, around the practice field,
around his wide receivers, around Joe Burrow. Is all of

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that ideal compared to him being on the practice field
every single day.

Speaker 2 (57:13):
Eh, maybe not.

Speaker 1 (57:15):
But you know, as these things go, you could do
a lot worse. You could do a whole hell of
a lot worse. And so we'll see what the coming
week and a half has in store. And if they
get the deal done. The cool thing is, if they
get the deal done, awesome, nobody's gonna have any issue
with it. Right now, You're gonna have critics who say

(57:37):
they overpaid, but they've made it known. Jamar is gonna
be their guy. He is at the heart of what
they do. The relationship between Joe and Jamar Chase has
been documented since well before Jamar Chase became a Bengal.
If it got done, now, nobody would take any issue
with it, and if it doesn't, there is the benefit
of time. He's under contract for two more years. They

(58:01):
can win a title with them this year. See, but
we did milk it for a month, which was fun.
Five point three seven four nine, fifteen thirty. I was
asked on Friday. UC football starts on Saturday with a
game against Towson, and uh. I was asked, well, some

(58:21):
books have him at five and a half. I have seen,
and I'll be honest with you. I didn't take the
screen grab to document it, but I believe I saw
him at six and a half. Across the board, you
could find UC at five and a half, which take
the emotion away from it for a second.

Speaker 2 (58:37):
If you're a UC fan.

Speaker 1 (58:38):
For me, is a hard stay away because I think
those I think the first two games against FBS teams,
the Pittsburgh game and the Miami game, I think those
are coin flips. Bearcats beat pitt there last year, lost
at home to Miami a season ago, a good Miami
team that won eleven games.

Speaker 2 (58:58):
I think those are two coin flips. Games.

Speaker 1 (59:00):
You can convince me Cincinnati at home can beat pitt
You can convince me U see can go to Yeager
Stadium and beat Miami. You certainly could also lead me
down a path where those teams beat Cincinnati. What I
think is very plausible, though, is a team that's made
an upgraded quarterback, that's got a lot of new guys,

(59:23):
that does have a good offensive line, that seems to
at least have the capability to do some things offensively
the Bearcats could not do last year. In a season
where the Big Twelve schedule for them is pretty forgiving,
you can sell me on and in fact, you don't
have to sell me because I think this is going

(59:44):
to be the case. I think this team could coalesce
and improve enough to take advantage of what the Big
Twelve is putting in front of them, which is, relatively speaking,
a pretty easy schedule. Let's face it, the Big Twelve
right now isn't great, which means if you can win

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the two coin flips, and again I do think the
pick game in the Miami game or coin flips, I
believe it is plausible that the Bearcats could not only
reach six wins, but exceed that total. Now you talk
about the air coming out of the balloon. Lose those

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first two and you may improve and you may pick
up some victories and maybe you still flirt with six
wins a fan base that feels already a little uneasy.
I'm not sure how much they're going to be paying
attention if they lose to Pittsburgh in Miami, and how

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much those two early season lossons will overshadow whatever later
season improvements are made.

Speaker 2 (01:00:53):
It's twenty nine minutes after four o'clock.

Speaker 1 (01:00:55):
Five win three seven, four nine, fifteen thirty is our
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Sports headlines are next on ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports.

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And guaranteed credit approval from their family the Yours for Life,
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practices Bengals working out today. Preseason's over cutdown day Tomorrow
less than twenty four hours away. Bengals Patriots a week
from Sunday, Live on ESPN fifteen thirty.

Speaker 2 (01:01:39):
Our pregame coverage.

Speaker 1 (01:01:40):
Starts with Tony ken Brew and me at the Holy
Grail starting at nine oh five.

Speaker 2 (01:01:45):
We hope to see you their CD.

Speaker 1 (01:01:47):
Lamb gets his contract extension with the Dallas Cowboys four years,
one hundred and thirty six million dollars. Becomes the second
highest paid non quarterback in NFL history.

Speaker 2 (01:01:59):
I'm sure you've seen this.

Speaker 1 (01:02:00):
Nick Chubb will start the season on the pup list
for the Cleveland Browns. Reds are off tonight, hosting the
Oakland A's tomorrow in the first of a three game series.
Alan Busenitz has cleared waivers and he goes to Louisville.

Speaker 2 (01:02:13):
He has accepted the assignment for what it's worth.

Speaker 1 (01:02:17):
Florence Yawls are off tonight as well, and FC Cincinnati,
according to a Laurel Failure of Queen City Press, is
set to sign twenty eight year old teenage head Aby
who's from Zimbabwe and spent all of twenty one, twenty
two and most of twenty twenty three with the Houston Dynamo.
Also a programming note, are you ready tonight at six

(01:02:41):
o'clock The Mark Stoop Show, the first Mark Stoop Show.
This we didn't even try this year. We've made fun
of for years and this goes back away now because
Mark Stoops has been a Kentucky for like what twelve
years now? For years we would try to get Mark
Stoops on the show, who I think has done a

(01:03:03):
and most would agree a very good job at UK.
And you know, I'm not sure life is ever going
to be that much better for Mark Stoops at Kentucky
in the SEC but has done a good job as
a good football coach, comes off as a nice man.
We carry the games, we carry his show. And so
starting with year one, we you know, hey, we'd like

(01:03:25):
to get Mark Stoobs on the show, and they would
always say no, and have done nothing but say no
ever since that. I think for the last two years
we have actually stopped trying to get Mark Stoops on
the show. So my assumption is he still hates us.
My assumption is he still hates me. And let's be honest,
who could blame him. He's probably in the right here.
But even though we have stopped trying to get him on,

(01:03:47):
we still carry his show. So catch the Mark Stoop
Show tonight at six o'clock live right here on ESPN
fifteen thirty.

Speaker 2 (01:03:55):
And then maybe you call it an asked Mark.

Speaker 1 (01:03:56):
Well, I hates our show. I have no idea, do
whatever you want. On the exact opposite of the spectrum.
Mark Stoups hates our show, Mike and La loves it
most of the time. And he's on ESPN fifteen thirty
high Mike. Hi, how you doing, man?

Speaker 2 (01:04:11):
What's up?

Speaker 9 (01:04:14):
It's kind of tough today, but I'm sorry, I'm.

Speaker 2 (01:04:19):
Okay, Yeah, you're right, okay.

Speaker 7 (01:04:22):
Yeah, I guess over.

Speaker 9 (01:04:27):
If you heard this story about this and my memory's
bailing me. But I just started hearing it in the
weeks and bounds on yesterday, I'm Petros and money. I
heard it on Greenberg this morning. I heard it on
Dan Patrick, his story about the guy, this major League
baseball player that's going to play for two different teams. Yeah,

(01:04:47):
and a double header. Can you explain that to the
listeners if you don't mind. I think it's fascinating because
it's never happened before.

Speaker 2 (01:04:55):
No, it's remarkable.

Speaker 1 (01:04:56):
So Danny Janssen is now a player with the ball
Boston Red Sox, and today he made major league history
by appearing in technically two teams in the same game.
So this game was It started on June twenty sixth,
and Jansen was a catcher for the Blue Jays. So

(01:05:17):
that's two months ago. It's two months ago today. When
the game started, Jansen was a catcher for the Blue Jays.
The game got suspended while he was in the middle
of an at bat, so they suspended the game. A
month later, right before the trade deadline, he got traded

(01:05:38):
to the Boston Red Sox. So today he appeared as
a as a pinch hitter, so Toronto had to pinch
it for him because he was no longer on the team,
and then they had to put in a guy to
replace him as a defensive sub. So Jansen today, I'm

(01:05:58):
complicating this. Jansen today is appearing or has appeared for
the Boston Red Sox in a game that he started
playing back in June for the Toronto Blue Jays.

Speaker 9 (01:06:13):
It's it's just I had to hear it like three
times because, like he said, everybody tends to tends to
get into a little bit too much and then it
becomes more confusing. But you almost have to get into
the details to understand what's going on.

Speaker 1 (01:06:29):
Yeah, So, I mean, you have situations like this all
the time where a game could be suspended and then
there are players who you know, maybe that got called
up or they were on the injured list, or players
who played in the game they got called up, or
they got they got sent down and went on the
injured list. And so we've had suspended games where you know,
players who weren't on the team when the game originally

(01:06:49):
started then appear in it. That happens all the time.
What had never happened was a situation like the one
we had between the Blue Jays and Red Sox where
a guy starts the game for one team and then
finishes the game for the other team, and the only
way it could happen is that the game is suspended.
And that's exactly what happened here.

Speaker 9 (01:07:07):
And I know you like interesting, so nobody could explain
interesting better than you, so thank you for the clarification.

Speaker 2 (01:07:14):
Well, I don't know, I don't know that. I don't
know that I know that, I don't know that I
believe that. But yeah, he did.

Speaker 1 (01:07:19):
He in fact, what's interesting And I just saw this,
I just saw this on social media. He ended up
the Blue Jays won the ball game four to one.
Jansen made the last out he struck out to end
the game. So the game that ended up really kind
of being all about him. He ends up making the
last out, but he goes down in history as the

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first player to play in Big league history.

Speaker 2 (01:07:42):
This has actually happened.

Speaker 1 (01:07:43):
I read a Jason Stark piece over the weekend at
the Athletic This had actually happened at the minor league level,
where a guy appeared in the same game for two
different teams. It had never happened at the major league
level until today.

Speaker 9 (01:07:57):
In I wonder run, just two other things play and
they're gonna get going. I'm not so sure that Santiago
West and All may not be maybe the most valuable
player on this team. And there's a parallel. There's a
parallel between him. First of all, there's a value of

(01:08:19):
great utility players. They're really invaluable. And keyk Hernandez for
the Daughters. He makes a catch in center field last night.
It was equivalent to anything I've ever seen any center
field or make. But he plays all of it, and
so the value of these guys mo is is really
really important with the length of the season, right well.

Speaker 1 (01:08:42):
Sure, I mean Santiago Espanal has proved to be a
pretty nice pick up. He's played free in field positions,
he's played every outfield position. He's not the most valuable
player by any stretch. There's value in having utility guys,
and there's value in having guys come off your bench
and being able to help. And if on next year's
team that's Santiago Espinal who is playing a lot of

(01:09:04):
different positions and giving you some versatility and giving you
an option off the best off the bench, that's that's
totally fine. But if the idea next year is to
have Santiago Espanal playing every day at any position, that
ain't gonna work.

Speaker 7 (01:09:20):
But boy, you might want to keep him around to
do exactly what he's doing.

Speaker 2 (01:09:23):
I think he's got years of team control.

Speaker 1 (01:09:25):
And again, you can you can make a healthy living
and meet a lot to a team as a utility guy.
But you don't want to have to start utility guys.
So if next year the idea is for that dude
to come off the bench, awesome. He can't be a starter.

Speaker 9 (01:09:37):
What else Let me postulate this.

Speaker 7 (01:09:42):
So I'm listening to Steve harton UH yesterday out here
and they're talking about Ellie. You know, Alfern don't really
talk about him.

Speaker 9 (01:09:50):
They really like him.

Speaker 5 (01:09:51):
Everybody likes and.

Speaker 7 (01:09:54):
They wonder because they're aware of Elie's mental error, shall
we say, or or trying too hard, shall we say,
sometimes to make things happen this spectacular. Yeah, they're wondering.
They're wondering if, for instance, he was playing for a team, Mike,
the Dodgers, and was surrounded by guys like Freddy Freeman

(01:10:15):
Mookie Betts. Saw, Hey, all these guys that are established superstars,
if that may make ground him more you see what
I'm saying, or make him more aware of his fundamentals.
I thought that was an interesting idea, and I want
to see.

Speaker 1 (01:10:32):
I've wondered at all season long, Mike, thank you very much.
I've wondered at all season long. This team hasn't had
all year long, a dude who has been there before
and played at the highest level, highest of the highest level,
and is capable of having the sort of cachet that
you need to be able to put your arm around
your teammates and counsel them when they screw up. I

(01:10:55):
love Elie de la Cruz, How do you not? I
just want him to stop doing dumb things on the field.
Tony Pike joins us next on ESPN fifteen to thirty.

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Speaker 1 (01:11:16):
It's our second season preview report of the day. Tony
Pike is with this three forty five, four to forty five,
and five to forty.

Speaker 2 (01:11:22):
Five to preview the season.

Speaker 1 (01:11:24):
Tony doing this on his off day, which speaks to
his professionalism. Cut down days tomorrow at four o'clock, so
less than twenty four hours away. The Bengals made some
cuts on Friday. I think all of them were very unsurprising.
Jackson Carmen perhaps most notably, gets cut. They've got some
tough decisions, although I don't think a ton of tough decisions.

(01:11:44):
I think it's mostly pretty easy to predict who's going
to be on the fifty three man roster. But if
there is one guy that should be holding his breath, Tony,
who is it?

Speaker 2 (01:11:53):
Well?

Speaker 5 (01:11:53):
I think when you look at mumu Jar Meta and
what he did at linebacker, going from undrafted to leading
the team and tackles all three season games, you could
see that there's a path where he deserves a roster spot.
And certainly if you hear Louis Roumo talk about him
at all, he raves and just Qui simpley says he's
a football guy's that's what he says about moving when
he talks about him. Now, what I think is interesting

(01:12:14):
is the need that other positions might squeeze him out
of that roster spot. And that's nothing that he did
or didn't do wrong. It's just what's the unknown at
tackle in Trent Brown to start the season? Do you
have to carry an extra lineman? I am very interested
to see what they do from a tight end standpoint
and how many tight ends they keep. But those are
the two spots for me. Do they keep nine or

(01:12:36):
ten oh linemen? Do they try to keep four or
five tight ends? I think he's going to be fascinating
because that dictates what the rest of the roster is
going to look like. That's why so many times during
toutdowns across the NFL there is man that's a surprise,
that's a shock. I never thought that person was going
to be let go. Well they may be a better
player overall, but they might just not be a right
fit for that roster. And that's the beauty of cutdowns,

(01:12:59):
and that's where you really get to see kind of
the behind the scenes of where this team and each
team values certain position groups.

Speaker 1 (01:13:05):
Yeah, they they'll cut it down to fifty three man. Yeah,
they'll cut it down to fifty three players tomorrow. That's
not necessarily going to be the final fifty three. I
think what's more interesting in what happens is what happens
after four o'clock tomorrow. Because you and I have talked
about this a lot back when we were doing training
camp reports. These are now season preview reports. You can
make a case for running back. You can certainly make

(01:13:25):
a case for a defensive line. You can obviously make
a case for offensive line as areas where the Bengals
will be looking to target once they get the very
long list of players who are made available starting at
four o'clock tomorrow.

Speaker 5 (01:13:36):
Yeah. I mean, I thought Cedric Johnson provided some depths
in the final preseason game on the defensive line to
help maybe overcome the Miles Murphy absence, but you still
have no cam sample for the season. Depth is always
going to be important of the d line because you're
trying to help the seven behind you. Can you get
after the quarterback? Can you stop the run? The ultimate
goal of this team is protecting Joe Burrow, and you

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can do that in multiple ways. You can do that
with your running game in the play action game and
the protection game, or you could do it with the
five up front. So I don't know. I think running
backs the hardest to evaluate mode because we've seen Chase
Brown and Zach Moss play a combined one series in
the preseason. I thought Chase Brown left a little bit
to be desired with some cutback decisions. So you have

(01:14:20):
two running backs that in your system have gone live
combined one drive. I don't know what Zach Moss is.
I don't know what Chase Brown is as feature back.
So that's where you as a as a staff coaching
staff has to come together and say, Okay, I'm comfortable
with where we are or we do need to address
this because we need to make sure And I thought
Trevion Williams played well at times. Is that a good

(01:14:41):
enough option if something were to happen at running back?
But I still lean back the offensive line as what's
kind of always going to start the drink for for
what this Bengals team needs, because it's going to provide
Joe Burrow ideally with the time to use all of
these weapons at his disposal.

Speaker 1 (01:14:57):
Tony, thanks so much. Tony Pike was hourly season preview reports.
He's back in five forty five and of course part
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Speaker 1 (01:15:52):
Hopefully you've had an awesome Monday. Another check in with
Tony Pike coming up in forty minutes, and we're gonna
give away some more tickets. I found out we were
given these away just before we went on the air,
so I've had.

Speaker 2 (01:16:10):
I've had to scramble.

Speaker 1 (01:16:11):
We've got tickets to go see Jason Isbel at the
Rose Music Center. I think before I said the plane
at the Brady where he's playing at the Brady. Then
I plan at Rose Music Center on Saturday. We're gonna
give away ticket Saturday, September seventh, So not this Saturday,
but next Saturday.

Speaker 2 (01:16:28):
You got some time to prepare.

Speaker 1 (01:16:30):
We're giving away a pair every day this week except
for Friday because I'm not here. But we're gonna give
away a pair in thirty minutes. And we're scrambling here,
but this has been done in haste. Bengals open up
the season against the Patriots. We will test your knowledge, yes, yes,
of the shared history between the Bengals and Patriots. Coming

(01:16:52):
up in just about thirty minutes. Speaking of the Bengals,
Jamar Chase practice today for a second consecutive day on
behalf of myself tarn, Tony Austin, I'll say Lance, maybe
some ken Brew, and god knows who else. I would

(01:17:14):
like to thank Jamar Chase for giving us a month
of content that we didn't think we would have. His
hold in gave us an endless number of segments that
I will always be thankful for.

Speaker 2 (01:17:27):
So thank you to Jamar.

Speaker 1 (01:17:29):
The overriding theme of the last month when Jamar's hold
in has become a topic, has been the discussion as
to whether or not he is gonna be willing to
miss a game or for my money games as as
much as as as interesting as this back and it
really wasn't even a back and forth, but as interesting

(01:17:50):
as the discussions could be about Jamar and what the
Bengals could do, what the Bengals should do, what they're
going to pay, what it may cost, the hold in,
and its impact on the other guys on the team.
Jamar in relation to Brandon Aiyuk Jamar and in a
relation to Cedee Lamb, who gets a big contract now
from the Dallas Cowboys, only one question really mattered. Is

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he willing to miss games? And will he miss games?
I guess those are two questions, but there are two
questions that kind of go hand in hand, and the
answer to the first one may have been yes, maybe
he was willing to miss games. He hasn't spoken publicly yet, but.

Speaker 2 (01:18:28):
Maybe he was.

Speaker 1 (01:18:29):
Maybe he was willing to miss games unless certain things
were done, And maybe those things have been done. Maybe
they're getting closer to a contract extension being announced, maybe
they've achieved some more common ground, and so Jamar is
willing to go out there and practice because the Bengals
are at least inching closer in his direction.

Speaker 2 (01:18:50):
Perhaps maybe I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:18:52):
Time will tell, But only one question really mattered, and
I kept asking it almost every single day, to the
point that I got tired of hearing myself ask it,
to the point that I think a lot of you
got mad at me for asking it to begin with,
was he willing to miss games?

Speaker 2 (01:19:07):
And is he going to miss games? Now?

Speaker 1 (01:19:10):
If if the second answer was, well, he's gonna miss games,
then that's a problem because the Bengals are better with
Jamar Chase than they are without them, and their chances
of going to Kansas City week two and winning with
Jamar Chase are better than if they have to go
to Kansas City week two. Without them, So at the
very least, I feel like we could say with certainty,

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beyond there being an injury, beyond there being something totally unforeseen,
Jamar Chase will play for the Bengals week one, And
if he's gonna play for the Bengals week one again,
barring injury, then well, he's gonna play for the Bengals
week two.

Speaker 2 (01:19:55):
And at the end of the day, that's what matters most.

Speaker 1 (01:19:59):
Yes, there are good conversations that can be had about
the value in getting the deal done now with Jamar.
There are good conversations that can be had about what
it may cost the Bengals if they get the deal
done at the end of this season, if Jamar has
the sort of season that we all hope that he

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has and expect him to have. But for me, with
twenty twenty four really being about the Bengals possibly having
their best chance to win a title that they've had
since Joe Burrow became quarterback, and possibly having their best
chance to win a title for the next couple of years,

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I wanted to see Jamar Chase play for the Bengals
the first couple of games. I wanted the season to
start with there being no question as to whether or
not a healthy Jamar is going to go, and that's
where we are.

Speaker 2 (01:20:51):
The rest of it matters, sure it does.

Speaker 1 (01:20:54):
Roster composition, roster construction, what it's going to cost your
best players, what other guys are gonna be expensed because
of what you have to pay your best players. Those
things are always topics. Those things are always worth discussing.
But one of the Bengals win a title this year, man,
and anything that gets in the way of that is

(01:21:14):
to me a big deal, and a bigger deal than
what may happen in twenty twenty six. So also be
honest about this, man, Like, as we get closer to
cut down day tomorrow, four o'clock cut down day, so
less than twenty four hours, I'm not sure how many
really hard decisions that are to make. If Muman John
Meta is not a part of this team, I'm gonna
have an issue with that because that guy looks like

(01:21:35):
he could play. It's gonna be interesting to see how
they handle the numbers on the offensive line, interesting to
see how they handle the numbers at running back. Maybe
not so much the numbers, but personnel. Do they get
somebody from outside. Gonna be interesting to see how they
handle the numbers at tight end and on the defensive line.
But if the biggest issue the Bengals have right now
is figuring out how to get Jamar Chase guaranteed under

(01:21:59):
a contract in the twenty twenty sixth season, this team
is gonna be awesome again. It's it's not an insignificant thing.
But if the biggest question today for the Bengals on
August twenty sixth is is Jamar gonna get his contract
that will start in twenty twenty six, this team will

(01:22:21):
be awesome. It means there's nothing else to sift through.
It means all the other stuff is fixed. It means
all the stuff that lou Anaruma had to fix on
defenses fixed. And by the way, I like what I
saw from lou Anarumo's units in the preseason. Now I
know there is a ripple effect if Jamar gets his
new contract that could impact you know, what he's getting

(01:22:43):
paid in the short term. I just diving into the
ins and outs of a player's contract is boring to me.
What's not boring is talking about a team's chances to win.
This team's got one. Those chances are compromised. If he's
not in the field early, he will be on the
field early. And is the biggest question. What about the
Bengals right now about Jamar Chase in twenty twenty six.

(01:23:07):
I'll ask that with you and I knowing and acknowledging
that for all of the things the Bengals haven't done
or haven't accomplished, for all of the reasons you may
have to criticize them, their track record when it comes
to their very best players who play the game's most

(01:23:27):
important positions, is still really, really good. You might go, well,
wait a minute, mo, what about Jesse Bates. I'd love
to have Jesse Bates. They don't value safety, Oh, they
value it. I mean, it's not to say that they
want a couple of shlubs out there. And they did
pay for Geno Stone, and they did bring back Von Bell,

(01:23:48):
and they've used some early round draft choices. I don't
think they value it enough to make a guy who
plays that position for them the highest paid in the sport.

Speaker 2 (01:23:56):
So they didn't with Jesse Bates.

Speaker 1 (01:23:57):
Or you might counter with, well, what about T Higgins
relative to Jamar Chase. It appears to me they view
T Higgins as a complimentary piece, a guy they're happy
to have in the short term, unwilling to give big
time money to in the long term. Beyond that, their

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track record with their very best guys at the most
important positions is good. It's quite good. So I'm gonna
defer to that. I'm gonna go into this with an
understanding that if Jamar Chase gets his contract done today,
it's gonna come at an eye opening cost reflective of

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what's happened to the wide receiver market. I'm also going
to assume that if if they wait until the end
of this season and Jamar balls out, as they say that,
that dollar figure is going to be even more eye opening,
and then there are gonna be some good subsequent discussions
that will happen about the ripple effect of Jamar's new

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deal on the roster moving forward.

Speaker 2 (01:25:03):
For right now, the guy's gonna play Week one. You
may have believed he was all long.

Speaker 1 (01:25:09):
I believed he was all long, But until he showed
up to practice, it was at least a question. For today,
that question has been answered. I'll be honest with you.
For today, that's good enough. In a year where I
feel like they have a chance to win the whole thing,
and I don't think I'm alone. Most important thing for
me was what's going to have the biggest impact on

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the twenty twenty four season. It's like the T Higgins
discussions this offseason. Right some made the case they should
trade him. You can still find people who believe the
Bengals should have traded him.

Speaker 2 (01:25:43):
I'm not among them. I want to win this year.

Speaker 1 (01:25:47):
I want to win this year, and I'll deal with
the fallout from the decisions they've made in an effort
to try to win this year. I'll deal with them
even better if they do win this year. I'll still
deal with them if they don't. This team was worth
going for it with that means t Higgins had to
be on the team, especially when you look at Jamain Burton.
That guy right now, according to everybody, ain't the answer

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to replace him. Could be one day, isn't now. So yeah,
we'll talk more about Jamar. We'll wonder how the CD
LAMB which got done, the CD LAMB deal getting done
in Dallas is going to impact Jamar Chase's contract. We'll
talk about how the dollar figures, the guaranteed money, the
average annual value is going to impact what the roster

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looks like moving forward, maybe how it impacts t Higgins's
new deal with his next team in twenty twenty five.
Yesterday though, and today, however, if you are fans of
the Bengals, these two days have been a win. I
don't know what they mean. I don't know if we're
going to be talking about a new deal for Jamar
soon later next year. I have no idea. What I

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do know is the biggest question about a player's availability
for week one has been answered. It's Jamar Chase. He'll
be on the field week one. Assume he'll be on
the field Week two. Bengals are better because of it.
Sixteen minutes after five o'clock five point three seven four nine,
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Speaker 2 (01:27:27):
I may do the same at Muleger.

Speaker 1 (01:27:30):
On social media, we've been heavy on the Bengals today
more with Tony Pike coming your way at five forty
five Bengals season preview reports every single hour between now
and the start of the regular season cut down day
tomorrowt four o'clock. Paultainner Junior is going to be with
us on a whole bunch of Bengals topics, and obviously

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news is going to be trickling in about who the
Bengals have moved on from, maybe who the Bengals are
interested in that are about to be cut, and then
we'll have full reaction to the cuts at four o'clock tomorrow. Meanwhile,
Red's over the weekend lose three out of four to
the Pirates. They're done. Call it what it is. They've
been done for a while. I was dead wrong about

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the team that's running away with the division. But I
read something about that team today that I can't help.
But wonder if I'm ever gonna read the same thing
about well the Reds.

Speaker 2 (01:28:25):
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Speaker 1 (01:28:39):
Season preview reports. Mark Stubs showed tonight at six. Reds
are off tonight, Hunter Green and Nicolodolos signing autographs in
Fort Mitchell. I'll be there at the Braxton Barrel House
in Fort Mitchell. Thanks to headseekers. You know, we get
things wrong. I'm a human being. We get things wrong
all the time. And back in late Man early June,

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maybe even later than that, I said the Milwaukee Brewers
were a house of cards and predicted that somebody would
catch them and overtake them in the National League Central.

Speaker 2 (01:29:11):
Mathematically, could that still happen?

Speaker 5 (01:29:13):
Sure?

Speaker 1 (01:29:14):
Realistically, they lead the division by ten games. Nobody else
is above five hundred. They are running away with not
only running away with the National League Central, but they've
got an outside shot to be the one seed in
the National League and they certainly have a chance to
get a first round by. They are right now two

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and a half games behind the LA Dodgers for the
best record in the National League, and they have a
one game lead over the Philadelphia Phillies.

Speaker 2 (01:29:42):
For the two seed.

Speaker 1 (01:29:43):
Top two seeds obviously get first round bys. They are
twenty games above five hundred. Their run differential, which is
a popular statistic here, third best in the sport. This
in a season where they have used seventeen starting pitchers
coming off an off season where they traded for some reason,

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Corbyn Burns. They've lost their closer, they've put Christian Yelich
on the injured list, and yet say which one about
the division? It's not good. They have a ten game lead.
It's not even Labor Day yet. So I got that wrong.

Speaker 11 (01:30:22):
And my.

Speaker 1 (01:30:25):
Hypothesis, if you will, not even sure that's the right word.
My prediction was based on the number of starting pictures
they've had to use that at some point that wasn't
going to be sustainable, and somebody would overtake them. Maybe
it would be the Reds, maybe it would be the Cubs,
Maybe it would be the Cardinals, maybe it would be
the Pirates.

Speaker 2 (01:30:43):
It hasn't been either of them running away with the division.

Speaker 1 (01:30:47):
So I was reading this Morning USA today there is
a piece by Bob Nightingale about how the Brewers are
again running rough shot over every buddy in the NL Central.
They also changed managers this offseason, with Craig Council going
to Chicago. They play in a small market. They had

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the sport's twenty second highest payroll. They've got a lineup
that at times has six rookies. They've got a bullpen,
filled with just anonymous dudes. They're running away with the
division and they still have a chance to have the
best record in the National League. This would be their
sixth postseason berth and fourth division title over the last

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seven years. Wayde Miley is on the Brewers now. He
had Tommy John surgery back in May. Former Red, a
guy who threw a no hitter in Red's uniform, Wade Miley.
We all have been around for a while, and unfortunately
for him and for the Brewers, he has not been

(01:31:55):
available since May because he had Tommy John surgery. But
reading the piece from USA today, he's still with the club.
He still travels to most games. He's one of the
veteran voices on that team. He said this, and I quote,

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it's an expectation here in Milwaukee to be in the
playoffs every single year. This is our division. The second
part of that is less important than the first. It's
an expectation here in Milwaukee to be in the playoffs

(01:32:38):
every single year. My question is, and you can see
this coming, right, when is somebody going to say that
about Cincinnati?

Speaker 2 (01:32:50):
When will it be stated?

Speaker 1 (01:32:52):
Quote, it is an expectation here in Cincinnati to be
in the playoffs every single year. I am asking this,
at least somewhat rhetorically, but isn't that a fair question?
Like it feels like they're and I don't root for

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the Brewers, cover the Brewers and not in Milwaukee, but
it feels like they're regardless of injury. And again, they're
on seventeen starting pitchers this season, regardless of whether or
not the manager leaves, regardless of whether or not the
front office decides to trade away one of the best
pitchers in baseball. There is a baseline expectation to be

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in the postseason every year. Now, you can criticize them
for not really winning in the postseason, but there's a
baseline expectation stated by a guy who's traveled around the league,
to be in the playoffs every year. When will someone
say that about Cincinnati? When will someone say that about
the Rats? When will that be the expectation.

Speaker 2 (01:33:59):
With the Reds.

Speaker 1 (01:34:02):
I want to go see Jason isbel These playing Rose
Music Center, which is an awesome facility in Hubert Heights. Uh,
this is going to be a week from Saturday, the seventh.
Every sports writer in the Southwest Ohio, northern Kentucky, eastern
Indiana Corridor is going.

Speaker 2 (01:34:21):
To be there.

Speaker 1 (01:34:22):
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on sale now, or you can win them, Tarn I'll
take one contestant.

Speaker 2 (01:34:33):
Let's do it. It's early in the week. Five one three.
I have come up with these questions in haste.

Speaker 1 (01:34:38):
Will test your knowledge of the shared history of the
Bengals and Patriots, because those two teams play Week one.
We're looking for a winner. We're looking for a contestant,
at least that hopefully becomes a winner. Five point three
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kelseyshev dot Com. Bengals practiced, tomar Chase practiced, no new
contract yet, Ceedee Lamb gets a contract with the Cowboys.
I have no idea if he practiced today, if the
Cowboys practice today, and I don't care.

Speaker 2 (01:35:27):
Reds don't play tonight.

Speaker 1 (01:35:28):
They host the A's tomorrow first of three at GABP
that starts a. I believe it's a nine game homestand
it's it's kind of well, now that's not true because
they have a doubleheader on Friday, so it's a ten
game homestand right, is anybody counting? So Reds Anda's tomorrow
night first of a three game series. Florence y'all is

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also off tonight. I think that's all I got. March
Tubes show tonight at six o'clock on ESPN fifteen thirty.
Your chance to talk with the head coach of the Wildcats,
which I've never been able to do because he hates
our show. Tony Pike is gonna join us in just
a few minutes I have. I could not be I

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found him. I could not be a more disorganized mess.
About two thirty today I found out from our promotions
guru Rodney Simpson, MO, you're giving away Jason isbel tickets
every day this week. I said, awesome, and I go
that includes today and he said yes, Mo, because every
day this week technically would include today. I said, okay,

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and then quickly came up with five questions that we'll
use to test your knowledge of the shared history of
the Bengals and Patriots. Yes, these two teams don't play
for thirteen days, but what the hell, let's do it anyway?

Speaker 11 (01:36:47):
A quick question? Yeah, every day. I mean you're out Friday,
so that means chap Burn, let's do Friday.

Speaker 2 (01:36:51):
Ooh, that's a good point. We'll do two pair on Thursday.
How's that sound? Apparently fine? All right, Yah, Chad's here
on Friday. I forgot, I'm off.

Speaker 11 (01:37:05):
All right?

Speaker 2 (01:37:06):
Who do we have? We have? Sam?

Speaker 1 (01:37:08):
You want to play? You want to play for a
Jason isbel tickets? Of course you do?

Speaker 2 (01:37:13):
All right? Are you a Bengals fan?

Speaker 9 (01:37:16):
I am?

Speaker 2 (01:37:17):
Are you a knowledgeable Bengals fan? I like to thank
very good.

Speaker 1 (01:37:22):
Well, let's see what we can do here and hopefully
you can win tickets. If Sam doesn't win them, we're
going to carry him over to tomorrow and then we'll
have five pair across three days.

Speaker 2 (01:37:31):
Hopefully that is not what happens. Sam. Are you ready?
Are you excited? I am ready?

Speaker 9 (01:37:37):
Tarren?

Speaker 2 (01:37:38):
Are you ready? And are you excited?

Speaker 11 (01:37:40):
I'm ready? Don't I'm excited?

Speaker 2 (01:37:42):
All right?

Speaker 1 (01:37:43):
Show is coming to the Rose Music Center in Hubert
Heights on September the seventh. Here we go, Sam, Are
you ready? Question number one? Tarrann played the music all
right two thousand.

Speaker 2 (01:37:52):
Uh let's see, let's see. I can't even my own handwriting?

Speaker 1 (01:37:57):
Is all right?

Speaker 2 (01:37:58):
Here we go? I did this in haste.

Speaker 1 (01:38:02):
The two thousand and one Patriots, Sam, were the first
New England team of ultimately six.

Speaker 2 (01:38:10):
To win the Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 (01:38:12):
This player on the two thousand and one Patriots also
played one hundred and sixty nine games as a Bengal.

Speaker 2 (01:38:19):
Who was it? Was it a Corey Dillon? B Ken
Walter or C. Lee Johnson?

Speaker 9 (01:38:27):
A Corey Dillon?

Speaker 2 (01:38:28):
Was it a Corey Dillon? No?

Speaker 1 (01:38:31):
Corey Dillon was on the two thousand and four Patriots. Correct,
answers Lee Johnson. That's okay, Sam, you have four more
chances to get free.

Speaker 2 (01:38:40):
Correct? Are you ready? All right?

Speaker 1 (01:38:44):
In two thousand and four, the Bengals traded Corey Dillon,
who you just mentioned, to the Patriots in exchange for
a second round pick in the two thousand and four draft.

Speaker 2 (01:38:54):
Who the Bengals use that pick on? Was it a
key one rattleft? B MADEE Williams or C Chris Perry.

Speaker 1 (01:39:02):
Hey, was it a Keewan Ratliffe? No, it was Medee Williams.
That's okay, you just got to sweep here. You gotta
get three out of three?

Speaker 2 (01:39:13):
Correct? Are you ready?

Speaker 5 (01:39:15):
Yes?

Speaker 11 (01:39:16):
All right?

Speaker 2 (01:39:16):
You sound less confident than he did before.

Speaker 1 (01:39:19):
In twenty thirteen, Sam, the Bengals beat the Patriots at home,
thirteen to six. This game is notable because it ended
Tom Brady's streak of fifty two consecutive games with a
touchdown pass. Only one man scored a touchdown in that game.
He was a Bengal who also played for the Patriots.
Was it a Mohammed Sanu, b Rex Burkehead or c

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Ben Jarvis Greenellis? Then go with was it Mohammed Sanu?

Speaker 2 (01:40:00):
Taron have? Sam? Thank you? I apologize arrn. Have we
ever had anybody go over three?

Speaker 11 (01:40:05):
I believe we have?

Speaker 2 (01:40:11):
Uh? Sam, Sam, I'm sorry you've gone over three?

Speaker 16 (01:40:15):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (01:40:15):
But you can try again tomorrow. We'll let you. Okay,
all right, I think we've ruined Sam's night. Don't Are
you sure we've had somebody go over three before?

Speaker 11 (01:40:31):
I don't think. I don't think we have. I don't
think we have.

Speaker 2 (01:40:34):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:40:35):
Well, uh, I don't think we've had anybody as confidence
as confidence sounding as Sam. Go oh for three now
what I What should I do with my remaining two questions?
What should we do with the tickets? Just hold them in?

Speaker 2 (01:40:49):
Now we have we have five pairs for three days.

Speaker 11 (01:40:51):
Wow, see hold on, hold on for tomorrow. Two questions,
three more?

Speaker 1 (01:40:56):
Yeah, if we want to do the whole Bengals Patriots thing.
I guess so well. Correct answer was Ben Jarvis green
Ellis that I mention that I don't know. Jason Isbel
is coming to the Rose Music Center at the Heights.
He'll be there along with other musicians on Saturday, September
the seventh. Get your tickets now or you'll have two

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chances to win tomorrow, one more on Wednesday, and then
two more on Thursday.

Speaker 2 (01:41:23):
Incredible. Thanks to Sam for participating.

Speaker 11 (01:41:27):
And if no one wins this week, that meets me
you can go.

Speaker 2 (01:41:29):
Yeah, we'll go up.

Speaker 1 (01:41:29):
To the show in the seventh, go hang out watch
Jason Isbel along with every other sports writer. I think
every sports writer in the United States is going to
be there, So that'll be fun, all right. Tony Pike
with a season preview report next on ESPN fifteen thirty.

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Speaker 6 (01:41:55):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (01:41:57):
So for the last couple of weeks, we've been doing
these Bengals training camp reports forty five, four, forty five,
and five forty five.

Speaker 2 (01:42:02):
Tony Pike has been with us live from practice. He
has been giving us training camp reports when the Bengals
haven't been practicing. He has been giving us Bengals training
camp reports when they have games that aren't practicing. These
are not training camp reports, but we're still talking with
Tony three, forty five, four forty five, and five forty five.
These are season preview reports, Tony. Are you excited to

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preview the season every day?

Speaker 5 (01:42:24):
I can't wait to preview the season and I can't
help but wonder, MO, is this what Jamar Chase was
waiting for? Yes, we'll see waiting for the transition from
camp reports to season preview reports, for us to be
able to start talking more about him in a positive
light and how he can help this team win the
ultimate goal, which is a Super Bowl.

Speaker 2 (01:42:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:42:43):
Look, I mean for all of the back and forth
over the last couple of weeks, one question loomed over everything,
and that was is he willing to miss games? The
fact that he's been at practice now and is working
out and going through his paces with his teammates would
suggest the answer is no. And so what happens next
with I have no idea, but he's going to be
on the field when the Bengals played the Patriots in

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thirteen days.

Speaker 5 (01:43:04):
Yeah, talked about the two week lead up multiple times
during camp. That's about the timeframe you need. You know,
we could we could dive into more of what was
really the plan of the whole day. Is there a
deal close? We don't know that yet, but you know,
it's amazing. I was thinking when I saw the news
yesterday of how small all the other roster concerns now

(01:43:25):
seem like when Jamar Chase was a question mark. A
lot of other questions, Okay, is the secondary good enough?
Is a defensive line good up? Now it feels like
all of those are a little bit of an afterthought
because you start to kind of peel back and see
really the high end of what this offense and this
roster has.

Speaker 1 (01:43:40):
I want to stay at the wide receiver spot and
Obviously there's lots of things that could happen with Jamar Chase.
Maybe the fact that he's back in practice would signal
that a deal can get done here very soon.

Speaker 2 (01:43:49):
We'll find out.

Speaker 1 (01:43:51):
You and I spent a lot of time talking about
Jermaine Burton, who, when he was on the field in
the preseason against guys who are not going to be
in the NFL, for the most part, was outstanding. And
yet you can't but notice when he's out there it's
late in games, he's not running. He's certainly not running
with the ones. He's not running with the twos. He's
running with the deep backup. So obviously he's got a
lot of physical gifts. Obviously there's stuff off the field,

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stuff in terms of preparation, maturity, maybe not falling asleep
in meetings that he has to address. So where he
is on the deb chart is he's going to make
the team, right, He's at least going to be on
the practice squad, But he's going to make the team.
Whether he dresses on game day, you know, we'll find out.
But he is behind Andre Yoshabash, he is behind Trent Irwin,
he is behind Charlie Jones, during the season. How does

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a guy like that work his way up the deb
chart when there are no injuries.

Speaker 5 (01:44:40):
Well, I mean, I agree with you. I don't think
he is going to be active to start the season.
I do think he makes the team just because what
you drafted the matter. But it does start to slow
down a little bit if you are a rookie wide
receiver once you get into the regular season, because it
now shifts from install, install, install, install to game plan
specific So the playbook actually will shrink a little bit

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during the season. During training camp, you want to put
in as much as humanly possible. During game week, you
kind of tailor your playbook to what's going to work
best against the opposing defense that you're playing. So the
game plans are a little bit smaller, which means he's
not gonna have to remember as much. And while a
lot of that is working, you're doing scout team. He's

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gonna have a chance to become a pro mentally because
the game will slow down. And I don't think he's
helped himself. But when you're not helping yourself and the
game is moving in a thousand miles per hour, you
can find it easy to see why someone would get behind.
I think at the root of it all for Jermaine
Burton though, is the fact that he has made plays
when given the opportunity. So no one's gonna question him

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as a playmaker, no one's gonna question him as a
guy that good things are going to happen when he
gets the ball. Can he be in the right spot
to get the ball? And I think that's where a
little bit of the understanding of slowing down this season
will help him. Caleb Williams in Hard Knocks last week
was asked, you know, are you nervous about the game.
What do you think about game in practice? And Kayleb

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Williams said, what I learned is that practice is way
harder than the game, and a lot of times that's true.
So hopefully in the setting like that, that helps Jermaine
Burton as the season goes on. Since he's our season
preview reports, maybe he can help the team later in
the season.

Speaker 2 (01:46:19):
Yeah, let's hope. So, Tony Pike, thank you so much.

Speaker 1 (01:46:21):
Back at it tomorrow for more season preview reports three
forty five, four forty five, and five forty five, and
then he's uh makes his return to since he three sixty.
He was off today, he was off on Friday as well.
Tony working on his off day today. Back at it
with Austin noon to three tomorrow on ESPN fifteen thirty Tomorrow,
We've got our guy, Paul Danner Junior from the Athletic.

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Of course, tomorrow is cutdown day, will pare down the
roster to fifty three.

Speaker 2 (01:46:47):
That will not be the final roster.

Speaker 1 (01:46:49):
They'll have, you know, players they could acquire who have
spent the offseason in training camp with other teams, but
still a significant day. Nonetheless, the Jermaine Burton thing, you know,
we we talked about the I think a little bit
on Friday. It's always great to not be desperate. The
Bengals have to all world wide receivers. They've also got

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some really interesting pieces lower on the depth chart, Guys
who have earned the trust of Joe Burrow, players who
from a productivity standpoint, can bring something to the table.

Speaker 2 (01:47:25):
They've got some some options at tight end. They don't need.

Speaker 1 (01:47:29):
To force Jermaine Burton on the field before he's ready.
Now you are, I think being completely reasonable if you wonder, well,
wait a minute, why why is the guy who played
at his level? Why is he that unready?

Speaker 5 (01:47:41):
Well?

Speaker 2 (01:47:42):
Why why did they? Why why did they were they?

Speaker 1 (01:47:45):
Were they caught off guard by the issue maturity issues
or issues with him getting into the playbook or that
sort of stuff. Did they not know that this was
a guy who, maybe from that standpoint, wasn't ready to
go a fair question.

Speaker 2 (01:47:59):
Maybe the answer is no, Maybe the answer is yes.
But there at least you've got.

Speaker 1 (01:48:04):
A guy who long term certainly has the speed, the explosiveness,
the going and getting it ball taking ability which is
a terrible way to put it, that they could take
advantage of down the road. And in the short term,
hopefully he can learn some things about being a pro.
Hopefully he can learn some things from the guys above
him on the depth chart. Hopefully he can developed Joe

(01:48:27):
Burrow's trust. I'm curious as to how that can happen
as the season unfolds. It kind of feels like, barring injury,
that maybe his rookie year stands a chance at least
to be a wash. But he's got time to prove
people wrong, and maybe the opportunity will present itself as
the season unfolds. But I do think that regardless of
how this season goes for him that when we start
talking about his role on the team next year, there

(01:48:50):
will be some things that you can cling to that
we just watched in the preseason in twenty twenty four.

Speaker 2 (01:48:57):
He's a really interesting player on this team.

Speaker 1 (01:49:00):
I think it goes without saying that we aren't gonna
be talking about who the Bengals can go get a
post cutdown day at wide receiver. I think one of
the more interesting things about this team is Tony talked
about this the numbers that tight end and how they
may or may not impact what they do on the
offensive line or what they do on the defensive line. Look,
that has been an area where relative to how things

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started camp. Sample was on this team when when spring training,
when training camp began, Miles Murphy was obviously not being
projected to miss a couple of weeks when training camp began.
McKinley Jackson was healthy when training camp began. Obviously, I'm
sort of folding in both interior and edge guys. But
on the defensive line, are their players who can help there.

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They got some good news with Miles Murphy relative to
what a lot of our fears were when we first
saw that he had gone out with any issue, but
still like, is that an area where they can find
somebody who can help that's on a team that's not
the Bengals right now. We'll explore that tomorrow Paul Danner
Junior in the three o'clock hour, and we are looking

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forward to that.

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tomorrow at three oh five. My name is Mullegar. This
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