September 4, 2024 • 5 mins
Sam Bruchhaus of Sumer Sports joined us to discuss the possibilities and pros and cons of a possible Ja'Marr Chase extension.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
He is the host of a Sumer Daily part of
Sumer Sports. Former D one linebacker Sam brook Houses with
Sam joined us a few months ago. We started to
talk about the Jamar Chase contract and how Justin Jefferson's
deal would impact Ceedee Lamb, who has obviously since signed,
and what it might do for Jamar Chase, who were
many of us were hoping signs a deal before Sunday,
(00:22):
and I wanted to bring Sam back kind enough to
join us on reasonably short notice.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
It is good to have you, Sam, How are you great?
Speaker 3 (00:30):
Thank you for having me back.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Here's what I want to know.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
So Ceedee Lamb gets his contract, you gets his contract.
In San Francisco, the Justin Jefferson deal has been done.
Jamar has two years left on his contract. UH, walk
me through the differences in what the deal will look
like if he were to sign today versus he doesn't sign.
He plays, he has a typical Jamar Chase year, and
(00:55):
then the Bengals try to sign him next offseason.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
How different would the two deals look.
Speaker 4 (01:01):
So, in any NFL contract negotiation, there's really two elements
at play. The first is the cap and the second
is the cash. Obviously, the Bengals typically have been a
team that does not want to guarantee cash in the future.
So if he signed this year, you can expect it
to probably be at the similar rates as Ceedee Lamb
(01:25):
as justin Jefferson, maybe a little higher than ayuk Or
in that range as well. And what that means for
Cincinnati is, you know, a top five salary all time,
probably heavily in that signing bonus given how they've operated
in the past. Now taking it to the cap, the
(01:45):
cap increases every year, and in fact there it's kind
of an unprecedented cap increase this year. As a result,
teams like the Eagles will sometimes really push to extend
their young players in third or fourth year as and
we saw this kind of play out with the Bonte
Smith in order to kind of play the cards and
(02:08):
take quote a discount as that market continues to go
up with the cat. So to answer the question succinctly,
next year, it's probably going to cost the Bengals more. However,
the cap will also go up. This year, it's probably
going to be in that Ceedee Lamb range, and so
you can expect it to be a big contract.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
Either way.
Speaker 4 (02:27):
They may be able to take a little bit of
money by doing it this year.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
I don't recall, because I'm an idiot if I asked
you this question when you came on with me last time.
But we've seen the wide receiver market explode. Jamar is
about to be one of the beneficiaries of that. T
Higgins hopes to be one of the beneficiaries of that
next offseason. At some point at that position. Is the
bubble going to burst?
Speaker 4 (02:51):
It's It's a tough question because you know, the tides
of the premium positions always kind of move. We're right
now kind of a lot of people invest money in
because the tackles, for example, and in the past that
wasn't necessarily looked at as a premium position as compared
to the edge position.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
The wide receivers are tricky because each year we see
people want to pass more, people want to see inflated
offensive numbers, and that's also kind of a league trend
as well.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
Down from the league office, I'm of the mind that
this bubble will not pop and that prices will continue
going up, and I think, frankly, the Ceedee Lamb contract
is a show of that in several facets. It is
a it is the second largest of all time under
the Jefferson contract. However, in terms of signing bonus, it
(03:44):
actually is the largest. And so given the Bengals in
particular don't love guarantee money after the first year, that
means a lot to the Bengals and whether they extend
him this year or next year.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
Jamar and you know, all summer long, he has been
lumped in with this, this this trio of wide receiver
Brandon Aiyuk obviously Ceedee Lamb and now Jamar Chase. Two
of those other guys got their deals. Those two players
have one had one year remaining on their existing contracts
when they went to the negotiating table. Jamar, as we
(04:18):
keep repeating here, obviously has two years remaining. Around the
NFL our owners looking at Cincinnati going look, man, don't
do it because we don't want a flood of players
hitting us up for new contracts when they've got two
years remaining.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
Or is that part of it overblown.
Speaker 4 (04:35):
It's an interesting question and people have kind of divided
takes on it. I mentioned the Eagles earlier. Some people
just want to extend thinking that you know, they know
their player, their player will continue to play well. And
they will reap some you know, down year benefits from
giving him a contract now and expecting that the cap
will continue to go up and up and up, and
(04:56):
there will be lower will it will be a lower
percentage of that cre card quote unquote.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
On the flip side.
Speaker 4 (05:03):
Cash is keen, and when those dollars get and when
those checks get cashed, it makes a big difference in
these markets. So you know, the agents are pushing for that.
Obviously the players who are represented by the agents are
pushing for that. So there's kind of two sides of it.
I think probably the owners are are signing the bills
(05:25):
and checking the bills and want to keep that cash
and check. I think some of the general managers may
want to play with the CAF or how the contracts
are structured. But at the end of the day, I
think you're correct. The market is the market, and the
people would rather wait to pay millions and millions of
dollars than pay it right now.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
And in a lot of cases, yeah, that makes sense. Sam.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
Awesome to have you, man. I appreciate you joining us
on short notice. Thanks so much.
Speaker 4 (05:53):
Thank you all for having me
He is the host of a Sumer Daily part of
Sumer Sports. Former D one linebacker Sam brook Houses with
Sam joined us a few months ago. We started to
talk about the Jamar Chase contract and how Justin Jefferson's
deal would impact Ceedee Lamb, who has obviously since signed,
and what it might do for Jamar Chase, who were
many of us were hoping signs a deal before Sunday,
(00:22):
and I wanted to bring Sam back kind enough to
join us on reasonably short notice.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
It is good to have you, Sam, How are you great?
Speaker 3 (00:30):
Thank you for having me back.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Here's what I want to know.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
So Ceedee Lamb gets his contract, you gets his contract.
In San Francisco, the Justin Jefferson deal has been done.
Jamar has two years left on his contract. UH, walk
me through the differences in what the deal will look
like if he were to sign today versus he doesn't sign.
He plays, he has a typical Jamar Chase year, and
(00:55):
then the Bengals try to sign him next offseason.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
How different would the two deals look.
Speaker 4 (01:01):
So, in any NFL contract negotiation, there's really two elements
at play. The first is the cap and the second
is the cash. Obviously, the Bengals typically have been a
team that does not want to guarantee cash in the future.
So if he signed this year, you can expect it
to probably be at the similar rates as Ceedee Lamb
(01:25):
as justin Jefferson, maybe a little higher than ayuk Or
in that range as well. And what that means for
Cincinnati is, you know, a top five salary all time,
probably heavily in that signing bonus given how they've operated
in the past. Now taking it to the cap, the
(01:45):
cap increases every year, and in fact there it's kind
of an unprecedented cap increase this year. As a result,
teams like the Eagles will sometimes really push to extend
their young players in third or fourth year as and
we saw this kind of play out with the Bonte
Smith in order to kind of play the cards and
(02:08):
take quote a discount as that market continues to go
up with the cat. So to answer the question succinctly,
next year, it's probably going to cost the Bengals more. However,
the cap will also go up. This year, it's probably
going to be in that Ceedee Lamb range, and so
you can expect it to be a big contract.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
Either way.
Speaker 4 (02:27):
They may be able to take a little bit of
money by doing it this year.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
I don't recall, because I'm an idiot if I asked
you this question when you came on with me last time.
But we've seen the wide receiver market explode. Jamar is
about to be one of the beneficiaries of that. T
Higgins hopes to be one of the beneficiaries of that
next offseason. At some point at that position. Is the
bubble going to burst?
Speaker 4 (02:51):
It's It's a tough question because you know, the tides
of the premium positions always kind of move. We're right
now kind of a lot of people invest money in
because the tackles, for example, and in the past that
wasn't necessarily looked at as a premium position as compared
to the edge position.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
The wide receivers are tricky because each year we see
people want to pass more, people want to see inflated
offensive numbers, and that's also kind of a league trend
as well.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
Down from the league office, I'm of the mind that
this bubble will not pop and that prices will continue
going up, and I think, frankly, the Ceedee Lamb contract
is a show of that in several facets. It is
a it is the second largest of all time under
the Jefferson contract. However, in terms of signing bonus, it
(03:44):
actually is the largest. And so given the Bengals in
particular don't love guarantee money after the first year, that
means a lot to the Bengals and whether they extend
him this year or next year.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
Jamar and you know, all summer long, he has been
lumped in with this, this this trio of wide receiver
Brandon Aiyuk obviously Ceedee Lamb and now Jamar Chase. Two
of those other guys got their deals. Those two players
have one had one year remaining on their existing contracts
when they went to the negotiating table. Jamar, as we
(04:18):
keep repeating here, obviously has two years remaining. Around the
NFL our owners looking at Cincinnati going look, man, don't
do it because we don't want a flood of players
hitting us up for new contracts when they've got two
years remaining.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
Or is that part of it overblown.
Speaker 4 (04:35):
It's an interesting question and people have kind of divided
takes on it. I mentioned the Eagles earlier. Some people
just want to extend thinking that you know, they know
their player, their player will continue to play well. And
they will reap some you know, down year benefits from
giving him a contract now and expecting that the cap
will continue to go up and up and up, and
(04:56):
there will be lower will it will be a lower
percentage of that cre card quote unquote.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
On the flip side.
Speaker 4 (05:03):
Cash is keen, and when those dollars get and when
those checks get cashed, it makes a big difference in
these markets. So you know, the agents are pushing for that.
Obviously the players who are represented by the agents are
pushing for that. So there's kind of two sides of it.
I think probably the owners are are signing the bills
(05:25):
and checking the bills and want to keep that cash
and check. I think some of the general managers may
want to play with the CAF or how the contracts
are structured. But at the end of the day, I
think you're correct. The market is the market, and the
people would rather wait to pay millions and millions of
dollars than pay it right now.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
And in a lot of cases, yeah, that makes sense. Sam.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
Awesome to have you, man. I appreciate you joining us
on short notice. Thanks so much.
Speaker 4 (05:53):
Thank you all for having me
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