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September 12, 2024 10 mins
Danny Kanell of Bet Online.net joined us to talk college football, the latest CFP rankings, some national championship value bets, IU/OSU, and the greatest football player of all-time. 

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
First, thanks to our friends at bet Online, our buddy
Danny Canell, who is always kind enough to give us
a few minutes maybe two or three times a football season,
specifically to talk college football. And I'm not sure who's
more dismayed, Danny over his Florida State seminoles or me
over the Bearcats. So it's misery loves company. What's going on?

Speaker 4 (00:21):
How are we doing? Mo?

Speaker 2 (00:22):
I would say I would take one in one right now,
like your Bearcats, Like I would rather be that than
zero and two. But it doesn't feel much better considering
the lead that was blown this past week, and it
gets pit like I get it, Like they're both we're
both in a rough spot right now. So yeah, we
could commiserate together.

Speaker 1 (00:39):
Yeah, it's one thing to lose, that's something else to
lose at home against an Okay team when you're up
by twenty seven and or up by twenty one in
the third quarter.

Speaker 2 (00:49):
Yes, that one does not feel great for the squad
at all. But I do think there are some bright
spots right that you can take away from Cincinnati, Like I.

Speaker 4 (00:59):
Like their quarterback.

Speaker 2 (01:00):
I liked him when he was in Indiana last year,
and like what he brought over there to Cincinnati, So
I do think you have a good foundation that there's
something to build on. It was a non conference game,
so that's good. Like it doesn't impact the conference race.
There's some bright spots in it. But man, you got
to bounce back in a hurry.

Speaker 1 (01:16):
Yeah, you're trying, You're trying to make me feel better,
and you're you're you're making some inroads, but but not
a ton. Just the season as a whole. You know,
a lot of us. It's obviously a season unlike any other.
With the expanded playoff. The Pac twelve is gone, we
have obviously here in Big twelve country. We've got four
new schools, Oklahoma and Texas Lea for the SEC. So

(01:37):
it's a it's a season unlike any other. My my
sort of take to those who coming into the year
were kind of rolling their eyes at what's going on
in college football has been wait till the games begin,
because the games are going to bring you back.

Speaker 3 (01:49):
I think that has happened. How about you?

Speaker 4 (01:52):
I agree.

Speaker 2 (01:53):
I think we're seeing and I'm very curious because I'm
always looking for trends, like especially when making picks, you know,
trying to make some money and figure out to stay
ahead of the game a little bit. I feel like
we're emerging to a place where there are probably about
four or five teams that are really really good, right
that feel like they are elite, that are just better
than everybody else. And then there's a group of about

(02:15):
thirty to forty that feel like any Saturday, any one
of them could win. And granted this happens a lot
every single year as kind of the dust settles, but
with the transfer portal movement, and I think we saw
this on display with Notre Dame. I think it's a
really good example. And you've heard Thomas Hammock, their coach,
talk about it at Northern Illinois talk about the importance

(02:35):
of teamwork and building from within and having a family
like atmosphere and guys that want to play together. And
Notre Dame they're not loaded with transfers, but their quarterback
is the transfer Riley Leonard, and he struggled somewhat in
the game because he was a new QB to the system.
And I think that's a trend you're seeing across the country,
the teams that are kind of loaded up in the portal.

(02:56):
Florida State's a good example Florida State is off to
a rough start, and I think it's because they're trying
to find their continuity. So I just think there's going
to be a lot of parody early this season and
kind of teams figure it out, players develop, they learn
new systems, and I think that is I mean, we
all kind of acknowledge this is becoming like the NFL.

Speaker 4 (03:14):
It's a minor league, NFL.

Speaker 2 (03:15):
What do we see in the NFL A lot of
parody where you know, there's a lot of exciting, great
games that come down to the wire. And I think
we saw that last week and a lot of unexpected
type games. All of a sudden they look a lot closer.
So I think that's good though. I think that's more
compelling and people like to see those tight, tight, close
knit games.

Speaker 4 (03:33):
Come down to the wire.

Speaker 1 (03:34):
So I will admit this is going to sound like
a really stupid question. I'll get that out of the way.
It's not the last time I'll ask a stupid question.
So you're right, college football is more like the NFL.
The NFL has a preseason grant, and it's a shrinking preseason,
but it's a preseason. Could there ever be a movement
given everything you just said, to have college teams play,

(03:56):
if not preseason games, joint practices scrimmages to give coaches
and players a better sense of what they have when
the games get underway in September.

Speaker 2 (04:08):
It wouldn't surprise me, especially when we already have it
kind of built in with Week zero and I know
those are Conference by Floridas.

Speaker 4 (04:13):
They played Georgia Tech and.

Speaker 2 (04:15):
It wasn't a easy game, but you've already kind of
got that extra week on the schedule. Here's the thing, though, though,
a lot of teams built in kind of I mean,
I don't want.

Speaker 4 (04:25):
To bass the Buckeyes because I really like the Buckeyes.

Speaker 2 (04:27):
I think they're one of the best teams in the country,
but they've essentially kind of had a preseason. They have
a three game preseason, so they're same as the NFL,
and if not just them, Old Miss Missouri Missouri has
outscored their opponents eighty nine to zero in their first
two games. They have played nobody, same thing with Old
Miss Furman, another directional school. So like, there's a lot

(04:47):
of teams that kind of schedule this. I think the
change you might see is a lot of coaches saying,
wait a second, I don't know if I want that
big marquee matchup on the first game of the season.
Let me start scheduling early. Get that FCS opponent that
you know, lighter tier where you're a four touchdown favorite,
Get that game early. So it's a pseudo preseason. But

(05:08):
you know what I would rather see. I'd rather see
a legitimate preseason where it doesn't count, you don't have stats,
and get better games once the regular season starts. Like
give me ten Power four versus Power four conference games
and then two versus Group of Five, and then keep
the FCS for the preseason. Something like that, where you
just have more continuity across scheduling across college football.

Speaker 1 (05:31):
Yeah, no, we're we're on the same page there, Danny
canell is with us thanks to our friends at bet online.
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Heisman and College Football Week three lines. You talked about
Ohio State, and obviously I can look at Georgia. I
could look at Ohio State and I see the two
odds on favorite to win the national championship, and this
is to win the whole thing in an expanded field.

(05:53):
Look lower on the list at this stage in the season,
which is obviously very very early. Is there a school
that you look at and go, you know what, right
now at this stage in the year, there's some value
with them.

Speaker 4 (06:04):
What is Tennessee at right now too?

Speaker 2 (06:07):
Like that may not be low enough after what they
you know, like it might be already the secrets out
on Tennessee, especially what they did to NPT State. I
thought they were a team that came in with you know,
they were kind of flying under.

Speaker 4 (06:18):
The radar a little bit.

Speaker 2 (06:19):
They weren't in that sort of upper echelon of the
sec with Texas, Georgia, even Bama, Ole Miss We're all
the whole ahead of Tennessee. What they did to NC
State on Saturday night showed me they are legit, Like
they are legit championship contenders, their playoffs contenders. They have
a young quarterback and Nico IAmA Lieva, who is a spectacular,

(06:40):
you know, thrower of the football. I didn't know he
could run that well. And they embarrassed a pretty good
team from the ACC on Saturday night. So I'd say
Tennessee then there's sort of you know, some teams like Utah,
who's out in the big twelve. Now they're the favorite
to win the Big Twelve. But Cam Rising is a
difference maker for them. Their quarterback who did get banged
up against Baylor. He had to leave the game, so

(07:00):
they kind of they were in complete control and then
came back. And I do think Utah is probably the
favorite to win the Big twelve. My question for them
is once they get to the playoff, can they go
toe to toe with those likes of Ohio State, Georgia, Texas,
those top tier teams and with him at quarterback, with
Kyle Whittingham as the head coach. They perennially, you know,
competed in the Pac twelve, one of the best teams

(07:21):
out there, so they're used to power for teams. I
think they could be somebody kind of flying under the radar.

Speaker 1 (07:26):
A year ago at this time when you were doing
hits like this, everybody had to ask about Colorado. Has
that totally fallen off the radar for you?

Speaker 4 (07:36):
Yes? I think so. I mean, look, it's never going
to be off the radar.

Speaker 2 (07:39):
I mean I'm watching Sports Center and First Take today
and they're talking about coach Prime. He's always going to
be He's always going to move the needle. But at
some point, and I think we're at that inflection point
right now, it can't just be about flash. It has
to be about substance. And they got manhandled against Nebraska.
And those are two coaches and deon't even mentioned this

(07:59):
before the game. And I kind of like Matt Rule,
we are the same class.

Speaker 4 (08:03):
They both took.

Speaker 2 (08:04):
Their jobs a year ago, and so they've both been
on the job and you've seen completely different styles of
how to build a program. Dion aggressive through the transfer portal.
Matt Rule goes through the recruiting ranks and gets the
top high school quarterback coming out, and Dylan Ryola gets
some other guys, you know, builds up and develops the

(08:24):
players that were already on his roster. And you saw
a glaring difference on display.

Speaker 4 (08:29):
This weekend. They have Colorado State Colorado does. It's a
rivalry game. It was a wild double overtime game last year.

Speaker 2 (08:36):
It feels like a must win, right And I do
think they win this game, and I do think they cover.
But at some point, like if they don't continue to
get a couple bigger wins against better programs, I do
think it'll be just like the back end of last
year when they were kind of an afterthought unless it
was drama, you know, unless they were getting trolled or

(08:56):
there was something viral moment from the game because of
the celebration. That's the only what we're gonna be about
talking about Colorado unless they start winning some more significant games.

Speaker 1 (09:05):
I love having you on. You're always so generous with
your time. I enjoyed it slightly more three years ago
when we were getting ready for UC versus Notre Dame
and the Bearcats, we were talking ourselves. We were talking
about their college football playoff odds, and now I'm trying
to talk myself.

Speaker 3 (09:19):
Into them beating Miami is a two point favorite. It
was more fun. It's fun, but it was more fun
three years ago.

Speaker 4 (09:25):
But if you get through that one, which I do
think you should.

Speaker 3 (09:28):
Say, twelve isn't craz Houston, Yeah.

Speaker 4 (09:30):
Exactly, Houston is awful this year. That just got smoked.
Are you giving you four and one right there? Then
you got.

Speaker 2 (09:36):
UCF, who I think is good. But man, I'm telling you,
the season is gonna be wild.

Speaker 3 (09:41):
Okay, all right, I'm back, Danny, I'm back.

Speaker 1 (09:43):
Thank you right check out bed online. Appreciate the time, man,
Thanks so much catching up our guy Danny Canell thanks
to a bed Online go to bed online for Week
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