September 12, 2024 • 8 mins
Richard Skinner from Local 12 joined us to discuss the Cincinnati Bengals, the status of Tee Higgins and Logan Wilson, and "cash flow issues."
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
At twenty two minutes after five o'clock. This is he
SPN fifteen thirty football the Natty five one three seven
four nine, fifteen thirty is our phone number, Tarran? Is
that Richard Skinner online? Seven?
Speaker 2 (00:17):
That I.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
Did I interrupt a conversation between you and and Tarran Skinny?
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Yes, I mean he's talking to me. I'm a polite
man and I joyed talking. We were talking with Karen.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
I would rather I would rather talk to him than me.
If I were you, I would trust me. I just
kind of is there anything you'd like to share with
the rest of the class.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
No, we just see. He just asked me about t
Higgins and I said, I don't know. I heard the
doctor wrong with you moment. He doesn't really know and
nobody seems to know. And that's a that's a problem
for your team's number two wide receiver at the moment.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
Yeah, it's kind of interesting because there was such hyper
focus on week one, at least from the outside, team
didn't look very focused, but such hyper focus on week
one that when we saw that he was in jeopardy
of not playing and then he wasn't going to play,
we kind of just ended the conversation there. My thought
immediately was, Okay, what about Kansas City, what about Washington?
What about the rest of the season for a guy
(01:12):
that's got an issue, a recurring issue with his hamstring?
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Yeah, I mean I I the other day when when
he didn't practice. On that Thursday, I did Paul Daanner
Junior and Jay Morrison's podcast down at Nation Bar and
Grill and it was it was great. I mean it
was most of the beat was down there and we
kind of did it in tandem, and so Charlie Goldsmith
and I did it. And one of the questions that
Jay and Paul asked, and they're always really clever with
this stuff, they said, give me a guy you're buying
(01:37):
on this team, and a guy you're selling. And the
guy was buying was Cam telling Britt, I'm just really
bullish and what was gonna have? And I did so.
Then we went to the painless who are you selling?
I go, all right, I'm ready for the tomatoes and
eggs people. I really truly am, because I know they're
thronging around this when I sell this, I hate to
do this because I feel bad because I really like
this kid. I said, I'm telling I'm selling Tea Higgins
(01:58):
because of the injury situation. The hamstring popped up on
that Thursday. Here we go again. This is a kid
that's had a bunch of these going all the way
back to college. And you know, some guys are just
just built that way. I mean, you remember Ken Griffy
Junior again of his career, all the beating he probably
took on that stupid asked turf at the King though,
really really compromised his career at the end and ended
(02:21):
up carrying the hamshring off the bone. We're not there
yet with t but you know, Ken Griffy Junior did that,
but we are at a stage where that's where Unfortunately,
that's why I said I'm gonna sell him, because you know,
he's on the injury poort already didn't know he's gonna
miss the game. He obviously missed the game, and then
it sounds like it's gonna linger for a couple of
three weeks, and then he returns to it another week
to make sure he's right, but then does it happen again,
(02:44):
And so I just I feel bad for him. I
certainly feel bad for this team because, uh, you know,
was I I know there's a lot made that Joe
Burrow is not the same quarterback without elite receivers. I'm
not buying that yet, although I do think he has
to game the trust us, or so the trust of
some of the guys as an a roffer. But it
doesn't hurt to have a number one who's fully focused
(03:04):
on a one, A who's healthy.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Yeah, no question. Joe had his own issues against New England,
and so we really can't answer the question. I guess like, well,
how are they supposed to account for his absence? But
I'll ask it anyway, like how are they supposed to
account for his absence? Who steps up? It's supposed to
be Yo Shavaje, But man, I don't know that. What
I saw on Sunday was suggest that it is no.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
And I talked to Trenton Irwin for a little bit
because Trenton's probably kind of been the fourth receiver in
that group. Member. It's been the big three, right, I
mean what it's been talked about. They were called the
Big three Tyler boyd t Higgins, Jamar Chase. And you
know Tyler's gone because a free agency, he's dealing with
the injury, not playing and Jamar is not completely there,
although I think another week back will be even better
(03:48):
for him. And he wasn't awful in the open. Six
for sixty two and all six targets is the way
he caught. But then where's the trust factor with the kids?
I think he was a trust factor there with Trenton.
In fact, you know, Trenton made a really good move
in my opinion, down by the goal line about the
twenty one yard line, where you know, Joe scrambled out
to his right. Trenton broke off as route, came back
(04:08):
with him in phase and then Joe overthrew him and
threw it behind him, which is not Joe Burrow like,
and that was part of the alarming part of the risk.
But where's the trust with the other guys? You know,
Yoshi had three catches for twenty six, Charlie Jones had
one for five, Tretn only had one for six, Jermaine
Burton had a couple of snaps, and that's five catches.
I'm doing the mass in my head at the moment
(04:29):
for roughly thirty four yards for wide receivers. Yeah, that
suggests he doesn't trust it to either rip it because
of the risks, and I believe there's a lot of
truth in that. I think we all wrote it. I
know Paul wrote it. I know I wrote it. I
know Charlie Golsmily wrote it. I mean, it doesn't make
it right, but we all wrote it, or he doesn't
completely trust. If I throw this ball at one of
(04:52):
the kids in life, I think he's making a cut,
and I throw a bad ball, it's gonna be picked.
So I'm not sure the trust factors are yet. And
I get it. I mean, Yoshi played okay last year,
didn't play a lot of snaps, Charlie part hardly played
any snaps. And I love Trent and I know we
trust Trenton, and like I said, he trusted Trent on
a route which Trenton broke it off and then didn't
make a very good throw. So yeah, at some point
(05:13):
you're just gonna have to let it go and trust
that those guys are gonna make a play and if
they don't, well then you go ahead, coach, and we
gotta do better. We gonna find something else.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
Richard Skinner from a Local twelve readA his work Local
twelve dot com, follow him on x at Local twelve skinny.
They missed thirteen tackles against New England, and then today
I see that Logan Wilson's on the injury report. That's
not a good combo.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
No, and actually Louisa Rumo tols today it was actually
fourteen tackles. The question has brought up, Oh, we've seen
We've seen different sites of thirteen tackles, twelve tackles, ten tackles.
Which Jay Morris is the one that asked us, I
wanted your full credit and he said, he said, would
you be willing to share it with He goes, yeah,
we missed fourteen tackles and probably work more critical than most,
but yeah, so fourteen tackles MO on what was really
(05:56):
thirty six running plays? They had thirty nine carries, right,
but three of those were Kobe Versette taking knee at
the end of the game, So does count officially, but
they don't really count. And miss you're not missing a
tackle on a kneel down. I don't. I don't think
maybe may maybe you could. I hope you wouldn't. But
fourteen miss tackles on thirty six that's forty percent of
the plays. And yet to your point, we watched Logan
(06:17):
come out on the field today. He had a compression
sleeve on his left leg. I didn't think anything of
it other than, okay, maybe he's sore. And by the way,
Logan Wilson, in case you're keeping score at home, people
had zero miss tackles on day. Yeah, one of the
few guys that came away unscathed is now having dealing
with a knee injury, and that's that's I think it's
(06:40):
problematic because I think Logan's a great player. It might
be a little less problematic against this team. Even though
Pachecco's a good running back, you know, he's more of
a finest runner. They do obviously love to throw the
ball because they have an elite quarterback and that probably
fits a Keen Davis skater. But I mean, if this
is long term and you get in the meat of
the schedule with with the Duke deal with a knee,
(07:02):
who's a who's a terrific run stopper himself, that's a problem.
So hopefully this is more management than anything else. This
is one of the things about doing a press conference
with the head coach before a practice, because he didn't
know and he mo he saw it. He didn't come
out of the game hurt on Sunday. Obviously he did
something to it. Uh. We will talk to Zach again Friday. Uh,
(07:24):
after after practice. We'll see where it stands. But yeah,
being being on the on the out list today with
a on the BNP list today with a knee is
not a good place to be.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
Do you have anybody over there at Local twelve who could, uh,
who knows a lot about the economy and and could
explain how the Bengals might have cash flow issues?
Speaker 2 (07:44):
I will tell you this in all honesty. I know
what teams are valued at right. I think the Bengals
actually the value from Ford there is one thing and
another place value him like a billion dollars more yesterday
and throwing a complete blank on who it was. But
I saw it. Evaluation doesn't need cash on hand. It
just doesn't. I mean it doesn't. And so that's where
(08:06):
I I always I always defer I'm not. There's a
funny part a lot. I was an accounting major for
like a year and a half in college, so I
got a finance economics portion of the program and went, uh,
fighting for me, I'm going to that field, all right?
Speaker 1 (08:19):
Well, I didn't you know, Dwayne Pulman or somebody could
explain this.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
I don't know somebody, would you? Twain Polman can explain anything,
my man.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
Right, yeah, And he always was wearing those like, you know,
professorial suits and maybe we could you could put him
in touch with me and he could explain how an
NFL team. He's the godfather, godfather right, uh, thank you,
thank you as always for for joining us. Much appreciated.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
Take care.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
Do you want me to put you back on hold
so he can talk to Taran
At twenty two minutes after five o'clock. This is he
SPN fifteen thirty football the Natty five one three seven
four nine, fifteen thirty is our phone number, Tarran? Is
that Richard Skinner online? Seven?
Speaker 2 (00:17):
That I.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
Did I interrupt a conversation between you and and Tarran Skinny?
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Yes, I mean he's talking to me. I'm a polite
man and I joyed talking. We were talking with Karen.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
I would rather I would rather talk to him than me.
If I were you, I would trust me. I just
kind of is there anything you'd like to share with
the rest of the class.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
No, we just see. He just asked me about t
Higgins and I said, I don't know. I heard the
doctor wrong with you moment. He doesn't really know and
nobody seems to know. And that's a that's a problem
for your team's number two wide receiver at the moment.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
Yeah, it's kind of interesting because there was such hyper
focus on week one, at least from the outside, team
didn't look very focused, but such hyper focus on week
one that when we saw that he was in jeopardy
of not playing and then he wasn't going to play,
we kind of just ended the conversation there. My thought
immediately was, Okay, what about Kansas City, what about Washington?
What about the rest of the season for a guy
(01:12):
that's got an issue, a recurring issue with his hamstring?
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Yeah, I mean I I the other day when when
he didn't practice. On that Thursday, I did Paul Daanner
Junior and Jay Morrison's podcast down at Nation Bar and
Grill and it was it was great. I mean it
was most of the beat was down there and we
kind of did it in tandem, and so Charlie Goldsmith
and I did it. And one of the questions that
Jay and Paul asked, and they're always really clever with
this stuff, they said, give me a guy you're buying
(01:37):
on this team, and a guy you're selling. And the
guy was buying was Cam telling Britt, I'm just really
bullish and what was gonna have? And I did so.
Then we went to the painless who are you selling?
I go, all right, I'm ready for the tomatoes and
eggs people. I really truly am, because I know they're
thronging around this when I sell this, I hate to
do this because I feel bad because I really like
this kid. I said, I'm telling I'm selling Tea Higgins
(01:58):
because of the injury situation. The hamstring popped up on
that Thursday. Here we go again. This is a kid
that's had a bunch of these going all the way
back to college. And you know, some guys are just
just built that way. I mean, you remember Ken Griffy
Junior again of his career, all the beating he probably
took on that stupid asked turf at the King though,
really really compromised his career at the end and ended
(02:21):
up carrying the hamshring off the bone. We're not there
yet with t but you know, Ken Griffy Junior did that,
but we are at a stage where that's where Unfortunately,
that's why I said I'm gonna sell him, because you know,
he's on the injury poort already didn't know he's gonna
miss the game. He obviously missed the game, and then
it sounds like it's gonna linger for a couple of
three weeks, and then he returns to it another week
to make sure he's right, but then does it happen again,
(02:44):
And so I just I feel bad for him. I
certainly feel bad for this team because, uh, you know,
was I I know there's a lot made that Joe
Burrow is not the same quarterback without elite receivers. I'm
not buying that yet, although I do think he has
to game the trust us, or so the trust of
some of the guys as an a roffer. But it
doesn't hurt to have a number one who's fully focused
(03:04):
on a one, A who's healthy.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Yeah, no question. Joe had his own issues against New England,
and so we really can't answer the question. I guess like, well,
how are they supposed to account for his absence? But
I'll ask it anyway, like how are they supposed to
account for his absence? Who steps up? It's supposed to
be Yo Shavaje, But man, I don't know that. What
I saw on Sunday was suggest that it is no.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
And I talked to Trenton Irwin for a little bit
because Trenton's probably kind of been the fourth receiver in
that group. Member. It's been the big three, right, I
mean what it's been talked about. They were called the
Big three Tyler boyd t Higgins, Jamar Chase. And you
know Tyler's gone because a free agency, he's dealing with
the injury, not playing and Jamar is not completely there,
although I think another week back will be even better
(03:48):
for him. And he wasn't awful in the open. Six
for sixty two and all six targets is the way
he caught. But then where's the trust factor with the kids?
I think he was a trust factor there with Trenton.
In fact, you know, Trenton made a really good move
in my opinion, down by the goal line about the
twenty one yard line, where you know, Joe scrambled out
to his right. Trenton broke off as route, came back
(04:08):
with him in phase and then Joe overthrew him and
threw it behind him, which is not Joe Burrow like,
and that was part of the alarming part of the risk.
But where's the trust with the other guys? You know,
Yoshi had three catches for twenty six, Charlie Jones had
one for five, Tretn only had one for six, Jermaine
Burton had a couple of snaps, and that's five catches.
I'm doing the mass in my head at the moment
(04:29):
for roughly thirty four yards for wide receivers. Yeah, that
suggests he doesn't trust it to either rip it because
of the risks, and I believe there's a lot of
truth in that. I think we all wrote it. I
know Paul wrote it. I know I wrote it. I
know Charlie Golsmily wrote it. I mean, it doesn't make
it right, but we all wrote it, or he doesn't
completely trust. If I throw this ball at one of
(04:52):
the kids in life, I think he's making a cut,
and I throw a bad ball, it's gonna be picked.
So I'm not sure the trust factors are yet. And
I get it. I mean, Yoshi played okay last year,
didn't play a lot of snaps, Charlie part hardly played
any snaps. And I love Trent and I know we
trust Trenton, and like I said, he trusted Trent on
a route which Trenton broke it off and then didn't
make a very good throw. So yeah, at some point
(05:13):
you're just gonna have to let it go and trust
that those guys are gonna make a play and if
they don't, well then you go ahead, coach, and we
gotta do better. We gonna find something else.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
Richard Skinner from a Local twelve readA his work Local
twelve dot com, follow him on x at Local twelve skinny.
They missed thirteen tackles against New England, and then today
I see that Logan Wilson's on the injury report. That's
not a good combo.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
No, and actually Louisa Rumo tols today it was actually
fourteen tackles. The question has brought up, Oh, we've seen
We've seen different sites of thirteen tackles, twelve tackles, ten tackles.
Which Jay Morris is the one that asked us, I
wanted your full credit and he said, he said, would
you be willing to share it with He goes, yeah,
we missed fourteen tackles and probably work more critical than most,
but yeah, so fourteen tackles MO on what was really
(05:56):
thirty six running plays? They had thirty nine carries, right,
but three of those were Kobe Versette taking knee at
the end of the game, So does count officially, but
they don't really count. And miss you're not missing a
tackle on a kneel down. I don't. I don't think
maybe may maybe you could. I hope you wouldn't. But
fourteen miss tackles on thirty six that's forty percent of
the plays. And yet to your point, we watched Logan
(06:17):
come out on the field today. He had a compression
sleeve on his left leg. I didn't think anything of
it other than, okay, maybe he's sore. And by the way,
Logan Wilson, in case you're keeping score at home, people
had zero miss tackles on day. Yeah, one of the
few guys that came away unscathed is now having dealing
with a knee injury, and that's that's I think it's
(06:40):
problematic because I think Logan's a great player. It might
be a little less problematic against this team. Even though
Pachecco's a good running back, you know, he's more of
a finest runner. They do obviously love to throw the
ball because they have an elite quarterback and that probably
fits a Keen Davis skater. But I mean, if this
is long term and you get in the meat of
the schedule with with the Duke deal with a knee,
(07:02):
who's a who's a terrific run stopper himself, that's a problem.
So hopefully this is more management than anything else. This
is one of the things about doing a press conference
with the head coach before a practice, because he didn't
know and he mo he saw it. He didn't come
out of the game hurt on Sunday. Obviously he did
something to it. Uh. We will talk to Zach again Friday. Uh,
(07:24):
after after practice. We'll see where it stands. But yeah,
being being on the on the out list today with
a on the BNP list today with a knee is
not a good place to be.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
Do you have anybody over there at Local twelve who could, uh,
who knows a lot about the economy and and could
explain how the Bengals might have cash flow issues?
Speaker 2 (07:44):
I will tell you this in all honesty. I know
what teams are valued at right. I think the Bengals
actually the value from Ford there is one thing and
another place value him like a billion dollars more yesterday
and throwing a complete blank on who it was. But
I saw it. Evaluation doesn't need cash on hand. It
just doesn't. I mean it doesn't. And so that's where
(08:06):
I I always I always defer I'm not. There's a
funny part a lot. I was an accounting major for
like a year and a half in college, so I
got a finance economics portion of the program and went, uh,
fighting for me, I'm going to that field, all right?
Speaker 1 (08:19):
Well, I didn't you know, Dwayne Pulman or somebody could
explain this.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
I don't know somebody, would you? Twain Polman can explain anything,
my man.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
Right, yeah, And he always was wearing those like, you know,
professorial suits and maybe we could you could put him
in touch with me and he could explain how an
NFL team. He's the godfather, godfather right, uh, thank you,
thank you as always for for joining us. Much appreciated.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
Take care.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
Do you want me to put you back on hold
so he can talk to Taran
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