September 12, 2024 • 11 mins
Chad Brendel of Bearcat Journal joined us to continue to rehash the explanations for what went wrong during Saturday's UC loss to Pitt, and we tried to turn the page to Saturday's tilt with Miami.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Ten minutes away from four.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
This is ESPN fifteen thirty on my leg or on
Thursdays we chat with Chad Rendel bearcattournal dot com. You
see in Miami on Saturday, a noon kickoff at Jaeger Stadium,
And so like Chad, it's Thursday. We're less than forty
eight hours away from kickoff, and yet I'm having a
(00:22):
hard time turning the page.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
I hope the players aren't. I am.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
I really know we're not supposed to relitigate the pit game,
but I can't help myself.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Is that okay?
Speaker 3 (00:33):
That's perfectly fine with me. I've been I wasn't all
that mad until the press conference on Tuesday.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
What was most upsetting about that.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
We would have given Corey Kinner the ball more if
we had gotten more first downs. You know, how do
you get more first downs? Coach? You give it to
the guy average in seven and a half yard to touch.
How about that? At that part, like just just say
(01:08):
you know, yeah, we went back and looked at the tape.
Probably a couple opportunities there where we could have we
could have helped ourselves by giving Corey the ball instead
of now we we we do it exactly like we
would do it. We just would get a couple first
downs and then we would give Corey the ball more
come on, come on.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
There were everybody focuses on the second and one, and
understandably so. But there was a moment earlier in that game,
and this is really when I started to have kind
of an ominous feeling.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
Early second quarter. I think at this point they're up
two scores.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Corey runs for twenty five, twenty six yards, they crossed
the fifty.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Then they call a flea flicker.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Now, I'm all for inventedness and creativity, and I like
Brandon Sorosby, but boy, if there's a moment where I
just want to I just want to keep doing what
I'm doing. I understand if Corey needs a blow there,
that's one thing, But boy, I just I felt there
like things got I know it's cliche, just a little
bit too cute, when what they were doing was just
line up bread and butter, give it to Corey football,
(02:07):
which was working great.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
Somebody told me something this week, and I've said it
on all of my shows, So if you've listened, you've
heard this, I want your reaction to it. Sometimes you're
not playing chess. Sometimes you're just playing checkers. Uh huh.
You know the old saying, and it's that guy's playing chess,
this guy's playing that guy's playing checkers. This guy's playing chess. No,
(02:31):
sometimes the game in front of you is just checkers.
You snap it, you hand it off to twenty one,
you get seven and a half yards, and incrementally you
win the game and you don't have to get cute.
And in the second half it felt like they were
overthinking it, Like your identity as a football program under
(02:52):
Scott Cliderfield is run the football, and you have a
great college running back, and you gave him the ball
three times in the fourth quarter. Not only did you
give him the ball three times in the fourth quarter,
but he gained forty three yards on those three carries.
(03:13):
How many six yards, eight yards, nine yards? That give
him the ball? Just give him the ball. When they
start to make their comeback and Pitt doesn't have enough
time to catch you and he runs for twenty six yards.
They throw it three straight times and with the flea
(03:35):
flicker being the first of those, and then he runs
for nine yards or he runs for eight yards. They
do complete a nice pass to Jamoi mas. That gets
them a first down. They run it again. He gets
nine yards and second and one, and he's not in
on either of the next two plays. What are we doing? It?
Just I can't get my mind around it. He could
(03:58):
not have been tired. He had run three times in
the quarter. The game is on the line, you're up
to If he gets the first down, you're salting away
the game. You're running the cock down to the point
that Pitt is not going to have a chance to
catch you, and instead you take him out and it
(04:22):
doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
And if he comes out because he's tired, Okay, you
saw out. They had timeouts, right Like, that's what they're
there for.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
You run the cock down to one, you take a
time out, you get Corey some water, and you get
him back on the field. Yeah. You know what I
go back to You know what My mind has gone
back to him million times this week.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Please the Rose.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
Bowl UCLA, Luke Fickle gave the ball to Mike Warren
forty two times in a game that we all credit
for putting that program back on track. They got the
(05:09):
confidence from winning that game and they ran with it
and had a double digit win season, forty two times
they gave Mike Warren the ball. Now, Mike Warren was indestructible,
like you know, like he wasn't a truck, he was
a tank. You know what I mean? You're not going
to give the ball to Corey Kiner forty two times?
(05:32):
How about twenty five? And the other thing that's really
like it gets under my skin. Mo We didn't see
Corey and hardly at all in the spring. Wanted to
keep the miles off of him. We didn't see Corey
hardly at all at camphire Ground. Wanted to keep the
miles off of them. Isn't the point of that so
(05:53):
we can run twenty five times in a game where
you're seeing a twenty one point lead dwindle way in
the four.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
Player the field?
Speaker 3 (06:04):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I just there's so many things about it,
and I probably would have moved on mentally if I
would have just heard when I asked first question of
the press conference, did you go back and look at
the date and kind of wish you had given the
ball to Corey kinnor Moore? And the answer was, we
(06:26):
would have given it to him more if we'd have
gotten more first out.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
All right, what's going to happen on Saturday.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
With the damn game? You know, I think something that's
that is important for this game. If Miami's kind of
they are, they have a good defense, but the strength
of that defense is in the red zone. So if
Cincinnati is going to have considerable success in this game,
(06:59):
or enough success to win this game, it's probably not
gonna be done from twenty yards in. It's probably gonna
need to be done from a little bit farther out,
and Miami gives up a bunch of yards between the twenties.
You know, it's not a defense that that just shuts
you down three and out and gets you off the field.
(07:21):
So I think Brendan Sorosby's gonna have to make some
plays with his arm. I think you're gonna probably need
to see a longer Corey Kiner run or two, or
you know, any of the other backs that chance Williams
are Evan Pryor. But I think you want to avoid
what was what what sank UC's ship last year? They
(07:42):
kept getting to the red zone and not scoring touchdowns?
What five or six turns into the red zone last
year if I remember correctly, and they got like six
points out of it or something. So they're gonna have
to hit a couple of big plays to loosen up
that Miami defense a little bit. Uh, Miami's offense is
not good. Good is you know, if if Miami's moving
(08:03):
the ball up and down the field, big twelve play
is going to be is going to be brutal because
that is not a great Miami offense. And then they
really don't run the ball much at all. So you know,
if they're picking up six seventy eight yards a carry,
maybe you know it might still be able to win
them the Miami game. But you know, you got five
(08:26):
or six like high high quality running backs coming up
in Big twelve play, and I won't have a lot
of faith in stopping them. I mean, there's no win
in this situation. Bro. If you beat Miami, you're supposed
to beat Miami. If you lose to Miami, we are official.
We're not off the rails. We are in a ditch
(08:47):
on the side of the rails at the bottom of
a hill.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
When I got like, I got like thirty seconds here,
and so maybe this is not a question that's that's
that has a concise answer. We talked about the three
three five last week. If the three three five isn't
putting pressure on quarterbacks and yet he's finding open receivers,
what's the point of the three three five?
Speaker 3 (09:15):
I mean, the the problem I have right now though,
is they don't have enough quality defensive linemen to run
three of them out there at any given time. So
I don't know what adding an extra one is gonna
do a whole lot of good. I think the biggest
issue right now. You know they're getting some some pressure.
(09:36):
I mean, we saw Eli Holstein escape pressure a bunch.
That's what happens when you only bring three because you know,
and I saw some some video breakdowns of this with
Trey Hendrickson in the Bengals game Sunday. Trey Henderson is
the only one getting pressure. So if the quarterback avoids
(09:56):
one guy, there's nobody there to clean him up. And
and outside of you know, Jarrett Bartlett's been been good.
Jonathan Thompson made a play for a sack against Pitt.
How many other times do you remember the linebackers doing
anything though? Right? Yeah, if you go back to like
(10:16):
if we're if we're taking them over thirty seconds, I'm sorry,
if we're taking the Iowa State defense and looking at
that as what this defense wants to be. Iowa State
had two and three All conference linebackers every year. The
linebackers are what made this defense really really good. Cincinnati's
not getting good linebacker plays.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
Uh well said, I hope we have something more fun
to talk about next week.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
Thank you as always, God.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
I hope so CMO.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
Chad Brendel Bearcat Journal dot Com on x at Chad
Brendel uc versus Miami noon on Saturday. Pregame coverage on
seven hundred WLW starts at eleven am. Cincinnati's first trip
to Yeager Stadium since they stole a game against Miami
Luke Fickles first season in twenty seventeen.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
Jamar Chase on the Chiefs next
Speaker 3 (11:10):
On TERR
Ten minutes away from four.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
This is ESPN fifteen thirty on my leg or on
Thursdays we chat with Chad Rendel bearcattournal dot com. You
see in Miami on Saturday, a noon kickoff at Jaeger Stadium,
And so like Chad, it's Thursday. We're less than forty
eight hours away from kickoff, and yet I'm having a
(00:22):
hard time turning the page.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
I hope the players aren't. I am.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
I really know we're not supposed to relitigate the pit game,
but I can't help myself.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Is that okay?
Speaker 3 (00:33):
That's perfectly fine with me. I've been I wasn't all
that mad until the press conference on Tuesday.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
What was most upsetting about that.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
We would have given Corey Kinner the ball more if
we had gotten more first downs. You know, how do
you get more first downs? Coach? You give it to
the guy average in seven and a half yard to touch.
How about that? At that part, like just just say
(01:08):
you know, yeah, we went back and looked at the tape.
Probably a couple opportunities there where we could have we
could have helped ourselves by giving Corey the ball instead
of now we we we do it exactly like we
would do it. We just would get a couple first
downs and then we would give Corey the ball more
come on, come on.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
There were everybody focuses on the second and one, and
understandably so. But there was a moment earlier in that game,
and this is really when I started to have kind
of an ominous feeling.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
Early second quarter. I think at this point they're up
two scores.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Corey runs for twenty five, twenty six yards, they crossed
the fifty.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Then they call a flea flicker.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Now, I'm all for inventedness and creativity, and I like
Brandon Sorosby, but boy, if there's a moment where I
just want to I just want to keep doing what
I'm doing. I understand if Corey needs a blow there,
that's one thing, But boy, I just I felt there
like things got I know it's cliche, just a little
bit too cute, when what they were doing was just
line up bread and butter, give it to Corey football,
(02:07):
which was working great.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
Somebody told me something this week, and I've said it
on all of my shows, So if you've listened, you've
heard this, I want your reaction to it. Sometimes you're
not playing chess. Sometimes you're just playing checkers. Uh huh.
You know the old saying, and it's that guy's playing chess,
this guy's playing that guy's playing checkers. This guy's playing chess. No,
(02:31):
sometimes the game in front of you is just checkers.
You snap it, you hand it off to twenty one,
you get seven and a half yards, and incrementally you
win the game and you don't have to get cute.
And in the second half it felt like they were
overthinking it, Like your identity as a football program under
(02:52):
Scott Cliderfield is run the football, and you have a
great college running back, and you gave him the ball
three times in the fourth quarter. Not only did you
give him the ball three times in the fourth quarter,
but he gained forty three yards on those three carries.
(03:13):
How many six yards, eight yards, nine yards? That give
him the ball? Just give him the ball. When they
start to make their comeback and Pitt doesn't have enough
time to catch you and he runs for twenty six yards.
They throw it three straight times and with the flea
(03:35):
flicker being the first of those, and then he runs
for nine yards or he runs for eight yards. They
do complete a nice pass to Jamoi mas. That gets
them a first down. They run it again. He gets
nine yards and second and one, and he's not in
on either of the next two plays. What are we doing? It?
Just I can't get my mind around it. He could
(03:58):
not have been tired. He had run three times in
the quarter. The game is on the line, you're up
to If he gets the first down, you're salting away
the game. You're running the cock down to the point
that Pitt is not going to have a chance to
catch you, and instead you take him out and it
(04:22):
doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
And if he comes out because he's tired, Okay, you
saw out. They had timeouts, right Like, that's what they're
there for.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
You run the cock down to one, you take a
time out, you get Corey some water, and you get
him back on the field. Yeah. You know what I
go back to You know what My mind has gone
back to him million times this week.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Please the Rose.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
Bowl UCLA, Luke Fickle gave the ball to Mike Warren
forty two times in a game that we all credit
for putting that program back on track. They got the
(05:09):
confidence from winning that game and they ran with it
and had a double digit win season, forty two times
they gave Mike Warren the ball. Now, Mike Warren was indestructible,
like you know, like he wasn't a truck, he was
a tank. You know what I mean? You're not going
to give the ball to Corey Kiner forty two times?
(05:32):
How about twenty five? And the other thing that's really
like it gets under my skin. Mo We didn't see
Corey and hardly at all in the spring. Wanted to
keep the miles off of him. We didn't see Corey
hardly at all at camphire Ground. Wanted to keep the
miles off of them. Isn't the point of that so
(05:53):
we can run twenty five times in a game where
you're seeing a twenty one point lead dwindle way in
the four.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
Player the field?
Speaker 3 (06:04):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I just there's so many things about it,
and I probably would have moved on mentally if I
would have just heard when I asked first question of
the press conference, did you go back and look at
the date and kind of wish you had given the
ball to Corey kinnor Moore? And the answer was, we
(06:26):
would have given it to him more if we'd have
gotten more first out.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
All right, what's going to happen on Saturday.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
With the damn game? You know, I think something that's
that is important for this game. If Miami's kind of
they are, they have a good defense, but the strength
of that defense is in the red zone. So if
Cincinnati is going to have considerable success in this game,
(06:59):
or enough success to win this game, it's probably not
gonna be done from twenty yards in. It's probably gonna
need to be done from a little bit farther out,
and Miami gives up a bunch of yards between the twenties.
You know, it's not a defense that that just shuts
you down three and out and gets you off the field.
(07:21):
So I think Brendan Sorosby's gonna have to make some
plays with his arm. I think you're gonna probably need
to see a longer Corey Kiner run or two, or
you know, any of the other backs that chance Williams
are Evan Pryor. But I think you want to avoid
what was what what sank UC's ship last year? They
(07:42):
kept getting to the red zone and not scoring touchdowns?
What five or six turns into the red zone last
year if I remember correctly, and they got like six
points out of it or something. So they're gonna have
to hit a couple of big plays to loosen up
that Miami defense a little bit. Uh, Miami's offense is
not good. Good is you know, if if Miami's moving
(08:03):
the ball up and down the field, big twelve play
is going to be is going to be brutal because
that is not a great Miami offense. And then they
really don't run the ball much at all. So you know,
if they're picking up six seventy eight yards a carry,
maybe you know it might still be able to win
them the Miami game. But you know, you got five
(08:26):
or six like high high quality running backs coming up
in Big twelve play, and I won't have a lot
of faith in stopping them. I mean, there's no win
in this situation. Bro. If you beat Miami, you're supposed
to beat Miami. If you lose to Miami, we are official.
We're not off the rails. We are in a ditch
(08:47):
on the side of the rails at the bottom of
a hill.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
When I got like, I got like thirty seconds here,
and so maybe this is not a question that's that's
that has a concise answer. We talked about the three
three five last week. If the three three five isn't
putting pressure on quarterbacks and yet he's finding open receivers,
what's the point of the three three five?
Speaker 3 (09:15):
I mean, the the problem I have right now though,
is they don't have enough quality defensive linemen to run
three of them out there at any given time. So
I don't know what adding an extra one is gonna
do a whole lot of good. I think the biggest
issue right now. You know they're getting some some pressure.
(09:36):
I mean, we saw Eli Holstein escape pressure a bunch.
That's what happens when you only bring three because you know,
and I saw some some video breakdowns of this with
Trey Hendrickson in the Bengals game Sunday. Trey Henderson is
the only one getting pressure. So if the quarterback avoids
(09:56):
one guy, there's nobody there to clean him up. And
and outside of you know, Jarrett Bartlett's been been good.
Jonathan Thompson made a play for a sack against Pitt.
How many other times do you remember the linebackers doing
anything though? Right? Yeah, if you go back to like
(10:16):
if we're if we're taking them over thirty seconds, I'm sorry,
if we're taking the Iowa State defense and looking at
that as what this defense wants to be. Iowa State
had two and three All conference linebackers every year. The
linebackers are what made this defense really really good. Cincinnati's
not getting good linebacker plays.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
Uh well said, I hope we have something more fun
to talk about next week.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
Thank you as always, God.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
I hope so CMO.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
Chad Brendel Bearcat Journal dot Com on x at Chad
Brendel uc versus Miami noon on Saturday. Pregame coverage on
seven hundred WLW starts at eleven am. Cincinnati's first trip
to Yeager Stadium since they stole a game against Miami
Luke Fickles first season in twenty seventeen.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
Jamar Chase on the Chiefs next
Speaker 3 (11:10):
On TERR
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