9/12/24 - The Mo Egger Radio Show - Mo Egger

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The Bengals battle the Chiefs. Coverage begins Sunday at noon
on ESPN fifteen thirty, the official home of the Bengals Sea.

Speaker 2 (00:09):
I'll tell you what if if you love rivalries, and
if you love sports, you love rivalries, If you love rivalries,
and if you live here, this weekend is for you.
Good afternoon, mullag or ESPN fifteen thirty. I can't wait.
Glad that you're here. We are loaded today. We're going
to go to Kansas City in fifteen minutes. Plus our
guy Lee Sterling at the bottom of the hour and

(00:30):
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(00:51):
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The Bengals and Chiefs for my money, and you could
find others who will tell me that I'm wrong maybe

(01:11):
you will. Bengals and Chiefs, for my money, is the
best organic rivalry in the NFL.

Speaker 3 (01:18):
Now.

Speaker 2 (01:18):
The Chiefs have played a ton of great playoff games
against the Buffalo Bills.

Speaker 3 (01:23):
The Chiefs win them all.

Speaker 2 (01:24):
A great rivalry is not one sided like right now
you see Xavier. I say this from a bear Cap perspective,
not really a great rivalry. It's been really one sided
up until last year. You see Miami. Not an awesome rivalry,
very very one sided until last year. In college sports,
rivalries are born out of tradition, right tradition. There's great

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college rivalries, but not a lot of new college rivalries,
and that will probably change with all the moving around
from conference to conference. So you see in Miami, me
this Saturday, which I'm excited about because I want to
find out who the bear Cats are and I think
we're gonna find out a lot about him on Saturday.
I'm want to find out who this team is. That's

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a rivalry based on tradition. They've played what is it,
one hundred and twenty eight times, there's obviously a geography
FC Cincinnati and Columbus on Saturday. It's a rivalry because
of tradition, it's become a rivalry because both teams are good,
and that rivalry was intensified last year in the Eastern
Conference Final when Columbus came back and broke everybody's heart

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and advanced to the MLS Cup Final. By the way,
Taylor twelveman's going to join us at five point forty.
He is on the call for Saturday night and then
there's a game like Sunday Bengals Chiefs. While the rivalry
isn't based on geography, Kansas City and Cincinnati are not
really close to each other, it's not based on tradition.
I mean, the Bengals and Chiefs play on a fairly

(02:52):
regular basis, because every AFC team plays on a fairly
regular basis. But prior to twenty twenty, that wasn't one
of those that you were like, oh man, Bengals Chiefs,
here we go. Recently, though, it's become, for my money,
one of the best rivalries. Rivalries in professional sports are
born from incredible games, high stakes games, some bad feelings,

(03:17):
both teams getting a crack at winning, and I think
shared mutual respect. And in games like this, you have
players who are willing to stoke the flame, which Cam
Taylor Britt did yesterday. I'll have that for you in
just a second. Bengals have some other traditional rivalries, but like,
let's be honest, Bengals Brown Bengals Brown's frankly recently, for

(03:38):
the most part, pretty one sided. But like, they haven't
played a ton of high stakes games. There aren't two
great quarterbacks. He got Joe Burrow and he got Deshaun Watson.
I'm not sure what Deshaun Watson's good at anymore except
for getting sued. Bengals Steelers. Yeah, yeah, but it's the
recent games. Uh, you know, last year was kind of

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one side. They haven't played in the playoffs in quite
a while. Many of the games have featured one team
being good, another team not being quite so good. Last
year's Bengals Steelers' games were kind of forgettable. Bengals Chiefs
organically has turned into I think the best rivalry in
the NFL. You have big name quarterbacks, you have star
power all over the place. They've played in some awesome games.

(04:23):
Five times since twenty twenty one. Every game has been
decided by eight points or less. Every game that Burrow
has played in has been decided by three points.

Speaker 3 (04:32):
This year is different. It's different because of where it
is in the calendar.

Speaker 2 (04:37):
Right when they played in twenty twenty one, that game
was played week seventeen. It was played on January the second,
and then they played in the conference championship game four
weeks later. The next year, they play in December, right
late in the season, playoff implications. Then they play again
in the conference championship game. Last year, there's a lot
riding on that game. Kansas City had yet to clinch

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the West Bengal were scratching and clawing trying to keep
their playoff hopes alive. The game was played on New
Year's Eve, so this year is a little bit different.
It's also different because, well, Joe Burrow hasn't come limping
into any of the games he has played in with
the Chiefs. He is figuratively speaking, limping into this game

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on Sunday against Kansas City. I mentioned Cam Taylor britt
this look. People talk about bulletin board material, and yeah,
I get it. If you're a Bengals fan, maybe you
don't want to incite the Chiefs. Maybe you don't want
to incite that crowd. Look, man, sports are supposed to
be entertaining when guys are talking. When guys are throwing

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shade at dudes on the other team, that's entertaining. It's
part of a rivalry. Here's Cam Taylor Britt talking about
Kansas City rookie wide out Xavier Worthy, who had two
touchdowns last week and the Chiefs went over Baltimore.

Speaker 4 (05:58):
Great to this case, be prepared for street.

Speaker 5 (06:03):
That's about it.

Speaker 6 (06:03):
He gonna run straight, run jet sweeps, and just run straight.
We're gonna do too much else, so that's about it.
But like, you put your hands on him. He's only
one hundred some pounds, so you put hands on you
to stop the speed. So basically get your hands on them.

Speaker 2 (06:19):
That's that's Cam Taylor Britt. We stole that from our
buddy Caleb no from Channel nine.

Speaker 7 (06:25):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (06:25):
He talking about Xavier Worthy. He just runs straight, jet sweeps.

Speaker 3 (06:28):
That's it. I love it. Also said he's about one
hundred pounds. Sign me up for this.

Speaker 2 (06:33):
Is that gonna have any bearing on how the game
plays out on Sunday?

Speaker 3 (06:36):
I have no idea.

Speaker 2 (06:37):
But when you have a rivalry, you need some trash talk,
you need some guys disrespecting each other. We got it
a little bit yesterday eleven after three. We're gonna go
to Kansas City in just a few minutes. Obviously, yesterday
the big question was, all right, how's Joe doing?

Speaker 3 (06:53):
What's up with his wrist? How does he feel?

Speaker 2 (06:56):
Why is he flexing his wrist all the time? Is
he having a hard time opening a water bottle? I
think most of us would agree that the question isn't
whether Joe is completely totally where he needs to be physically,
because he's not. I mean, just just add up the evidence.
There's what he is saying. There's what he is not saying.

(07:17):
There's what we know about his wrist surgery. There's watching
what he is doing with his wrist. By the way,
the last two days, I've had a stiff neck. And
so if you've if you've run into me, if you've
seen me at work. My daughter asked me this morning, Daddy,
what are you doing. I've been like rolling my neck
because it just it, it hurts, it's a little achy.
It's what you do when something sore. Joe's been doing

(07:37):
that with his wrist. There's also how he played on Sunday.
Go ahead and say it. Joe played bad, So he's
gonna play on Sunday. The question is not whether or
not he is where he wants to be physically or
where you and I want him to be physically. The
question is how can he find ways to help his

(07:57):
team win and play effectively. If a player who's not
one decides to play, I assume he can figure out
ways to play effectively and help his team and not
hurt his team. That's the question on Sunday, within the
framework of dealing with some discomfort, and maybe some of

(08:18):
that discomfort is mental. Within that framework, can he help
his team win and can his coaches help him? Like
that was the other part of last week Against New England.
We've talked about this a lot. Joe threw a lot
of short passes right everything near the line of scrimmage,
very little downfield, very little intermediate. A little bit more

(08:41):
as the game went on, but everything was within five
yards of the line of scrimmage. But every time it
felt like a Bengals pass catcher caught the ball, he
was tackled almost instantly. So does the game plan look
the same on Sunday, I don't know. But if we're
borrowing principles from that game plan and Joe's gonna throw short,

(09:04):
well it would help if Zach Taylor and Dan Pitcher
and Brad Kragthorpe the quarterbacks coach, would come up with
a way to have guys catch the ball and then
be able to do something with it. To me, that's scheming,
that's game planning, it's play calling. Joe Burrow didn't do
himself any favors last week. He certainly didn't do his

(09:26):
team any favors last week. Joe Burrow's coaches did him
no favors last week. Does that change? On Sunday fourteen
minutes after three o'clock, Jay Morrison from Bengals practice. By
the way, Logan Wilson was doing stuff at practice today,
which is a step in the right direction. Jay joins
us coming up at four twenty lots to cover this afternoon.

(09:47):
We're gonna go to Kansas City Chief's perspective on this
game on Sunday Next, it's The Ortho Sinsey Moeggers Show,
fourteen after three ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports Station.

Speaker 1 (09:59):
Cincinnati's again Sunday at noon on ESPN fifteen thirty, the
official Home of the Bengals.

Speaker 3 (10:06):
If you missed anything this week, what were you doing?
But since you missed it. We save it for you.

Speaker 2 (10:12):
We record everything and we put it on the iHeartRadio
app Paul Danner Junior, Tony and Mo Football Show. By
the way, we had a guy yesterday, Sean Sayed, who
were now making a weekly part of this show.

Speaker 3 (10:23):
He was that good.

Speaker 2 (10:24):
Sumer sports smart dude, fun guy to talk to. He
broke down the Bengals Pats tape. He was terrific. Our
segment with doctor Matthew Grunckermeier from Ortho sincy On T.
Higgins go get it All on the iHeartRadio app podcast
of the show a service of long neck sports grill.
If you know me well, then you know that I
have three out of market sports talk radio hosts whose

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work I love, and one of them you know who
they are. One of them is char Acton Harrison. He
is going to join us here in just a few minutes,
does a show on ninety six five The Fan in
Kansas City. We are as much as I love him,
he is about to go in the air. We are
in a slight holding pattern for getting Carrington on. I'll

(11:09):
remind you of this. Bengals and Chiefs on Sunday Live
on ESPN fifteen thirty pregame starts at noon. You just
heard that we are gonna be posted up at Dickman's
in Fort Right. Game starts at four twenty five. If
you haven't been to Dickman's, you owe it to yourself.
Awesome food, a tremendous beer selection. I went to Dickman's

(11:30):
late on Friday night. They had the Peacock game packers, Eagles,
had some wings, had some potato skins, had a nice
cold Budweiser, and it was a good Friday night. That'd
be a great Sunday afternoon. And join us at Dickman's
in Fort Right. We have Carrington Harrison, one of the
best in the business, ninety six to five, the fan
in Kansas City.

Speaker 3 (11:50):
I appreciate the time. Let me start with this. Look,
we know.

Speaker 2 (11:53):
Mahomes, we know Kelsey, we know read so many familiar characters.
But then I'm watching the Thursday night opener and there's
xavior Worthy streaking down the sideline doing things that I'm
not sure anybody has done in that offense in quite
a while, scoring two touchdowns. You add him to that team, Carrington,
and it's almost not fair. O.

Speaker 8 (12:12):
First off, I'm happy to be on your show. Second
off is, how can you be mad at Kansas City?

Speaker 9 (12:16):
The team you need to be.

Speaker 8 (12:17):
Mad at is Buffalo. Buffalo has been terrorized by the
Kansas City Chiefs for at least four years. You know
what I would never do if I'm the opposing team,
I would never do what Brett Veach wants. I would
never do something that makes Patrick Mahomes happy. I firmly
believe if you ask Mahomes all right, outside of elite
neighbors and Marvin Harrison, the Chiefs never had a chance

(12:39):
of getting those players. If you asked him in that
second tier of wide receiver, which one would you pick?
I think they would have picked Xavier Worthy and the
Buffalo Bills traded him to Kansas City. If anything, you
need to draft Yon Coleman where you were if you're
Buffalo and you let the Chiefs figure it out on
their own. But in no ways am I going to

(13:00):
to help you in trying to get the one thing
you needed last year. So a better answer your question
is the excitement I think from Chiefs fans comes from
the very simple fact of their offense has pop again.
It has as a last year, the Chiefs were seventeenth
in points scored. We're talking about Patrick Mahomes, Andy Reid,
Travis mckelz. They were below average offensively. Now you've given

(13:22):
them a legitimate speechter to now pair with Rashi Rice,
who looks like he's one of the better yards after catch.
I mean, Travis Kelce didn't even play that well on
Monday or last Thursday, and they still scored twenty seven points.
So I think the excitement from Chiefs fans is this
offense just has more clubs in the bag than they
had last year. This offense is far more diverse, far

(13:44):
more explosive than they were the last time the Kansas
City and Cincinnati played each other.

Speaker 2 (13:49):
Yeah, I was going to go there next, because this
is more of a comment and a question, I guess.
But I think of the early part of the Mahomes run,
right when that offense was guys just streaking down the
beating teams deep, and then there was an evolution and
it looked a lot different in recent years, still with
obviously a lot of success, and it feels like this
season it's it's kind of the best of both, which

(14:11):
for a defensive coordinator means you got to pick your poison.

Speaker 8 (14:14):
Yeah, no, you absolutely have to kind of pick your
poison against this team. I mean, I think this is
the most well rounded Chiefs team that they've had, probably
since the year that they lost to Tampa Bay. I
actually think that's the best Chiefs team that they had.
I know, they didn't win the Super Bowl and three
other teams have had, but you got to think back
to that season. The Chiefs just completely ran through the
AFC and injuries derailed them and that's a big reason

(14:37):
of why they didn't lose to Tampa Bay. Like you mentioned,
pick your poison, I mean, Isaiah Pacheco can run four
one hundred yards. Patrick Mahomes can throw for three hundred yards.
The Chiefs can also hold you to seventeen points and
your quarterback those two interceptions at the game. Like, there
isn't a clear defined weakness for this Chiefs team, which
makes them so good and coming into this game, and
I'm sure Mo we're going to talk about it is

(14:59):
one team only has one injury.

Speaker 7 (15:01):
That's Hollywood Brown.

Speaker 8 (15:02):
Everybody else was a full participant in practice leading up
to this game. That's not the case on the Cincinnati side.
So if you're gonna give the Chiefs extra rest against
the team we know that they don't like and a
team we know they're gonna get up for. They're gonna
be largely healthy going into this game. This is a
really tough spot for a Bengals team that I don't
want to say must win because we've seen them climb

(15:23):
themselves out of the hole. But we had this sat
on our show yesterday that since they expanded the playoffs,
there have been thirty three teams that have started the
year off zero to two. Only two of those teams
that made the postseason. Now, one of those teams is Cincinnati.
The other team is last year's Houston Texans. So obviously
I'm not gonna say that, hey, Cincinnati needs to win
this or they can't make the postseason, But the odds suggests, Man,

(15:46):
if you keep digging yourself in these kind of situations,
in this kind of hole, eventually it comes back to
bite you, kind of like it did last year for Cincinnati.

Speaker 2 (15:53):
Yeah, I mean, you're exactly right. I've been saying the
same thing all week. And look, there's there's a difference
between starting oh to two when you know, you know
a little bit about more, a little bit more about
where your quarterback is physically and you're you're starting the
season against you know worthy divisional of foes. It's something
entirely different when we have no idea really what Joe
Burrow is dealing with.

Speaker 3 (16:14):
It's his wrist, but how healthy is he is?

Speaker 5 (16:16):
This?

Speaker 2 (16:16):
How he's going to play as long as he's not
feeling completely comfortable? And they lost to a really bad
Patriots team at home. And you're right, man, that the
more you do this, the more you play with fire,
at some point you're going to get burned. And I
think that's the fear here. Lose this one on Sunday. Yeah,
the next two games are very winnable. But Te Higgins
is hurt. I got a bunch of injuries on the
defensive line, and we don't know that much about Joe

(16:38):
Burrow physically, or we don't know as much as we
would like, I should say, physically. So yeah, this oh
and two, if that indeed is where we are on
Sunday night, to me, is going to feel a lot
different than the oh and two over the last couple
of years.

Speaker 8 (16:51):
Yeah, one hundred percent. I mean, no one thinks that
the Patriots are going to be a good team this year,
and you can't lose to that team and only score
ten points at home, not when you spent the resources
that Cincinnati has had to have a great offense. I
want to ask you a question, because this is something
that we talked about on my show over the course
of the week. Is I like Joe Burrow a lot.

(17:11):
I actually like a lot of the Bengals players. I
know I live in Kansas City, but the Bengals are
one of my favorite teams in the league.

Speaker 7 (17:16):
You know.

Speaker 8 (17:17):
I like the swagger, I like the energy. I like
Joe Burrow's story, I like Jamar Chase. There's a lot
of things I like about this team. It's been a
while since we've seen Joe Burrow be one of those
top five quarterbacks in the league. I saw it with
Mahomes last year. I've seen it with Lamar Jackson. I've
seen it with Josh Allen. The last fourteen months for
Joe Burrow, it's just been either he's been hurt or

(17:39):
recovering from an injury. I want to see Burrow be
that guy again. I want to see him, you know,
play like CJ. Stroud, make a throw like I saw
last week with Anthony Richardson. Like that Anthony Richardson's brow
was a Hey, this guy could be really good if
everything kind of pans out. It's been a while since
Burrow has kind of given us that feeling that he is.

(18:01):
In that same conversation with Josh Allen and Patrick.

Speaker 3 (18:03):
Mahomes, Yeah, that's the thing.

Speaker 2 (18:05):
I mean, if you go back to when he got hurt,
it felt like he was getting there. He obviously started
last season very slowly, had the CAF issue played on
evenly for the first four or five games, But there
was a stretch of time mid October early November right
before he got hurt. I mean his game against San
Francisco last year. He was awesome, I think twenty eight
of thirty two and just carved up a super Bowl defense, right,

(18:28):
and then he gets hurt. But you're right, I mean,
over the last fourteen months, and frankly over the course
of the last four years, for all of the acclaim,
for everything he has done for this franchise, for all
the winning that they have enjoyed, certainly relative to before
Joe Burrow got here, it does feel like we have
spent way too much time talking about injuries, and that,
to me is what is going to define this season.

Speaker 3 (18:48):
For him.

Speaker 2 (18:48):
Are we going to walk away from year five going God,
you know what, three out of the five years have
been dominated by injury talk, or three out of the
five years have been dominated by us talking about how
good Joe is, how close he is to Mahomes, his
ability to win, raise his teammates, elevate his teammates. This
is a very critical year. But look, we all love
him here as you might expect. But I think I

(19:09):
think your observations are fair. And I think anybody who
looks at Joe maybe a little askew, wanting to see
more of him healthy is coming from is coming from
a very fair place. I want to ask you about
a guy that as training camp unfolded, we almost assumed
was going to end up back in Cincinnati, samaj p
Rind And it wasn't that he didn't come back to

(19:30):
Cincinnati that bothered so many people. It was where he
ended up. His role in the opener was no nonexistent.
What is the expectation for Samaje in a loaded Kansas
City offense as the season unfolds.

Speaker 8 (19:43):
I think the expectation for him is to be Jeric
McKinnon for this team. Jeric McKinnon for a couple of years,
he was kind of that running back to running back
number three, catch the ball out of the backfield, kind
of Swiss army knife guy. Necessarily didn't get a lot
of carries. I don't think that Samaj p Ryan's gonna
get a lot of those carries, but I do think
he's gonna be involved in the passing game. So to

(20:04):
give you an example, in twenty twenty two, Jack McKinnon
had two hundred and ninety one yards rushing, so not
a lot, but he did have fifty six catches for
five hundred and twelve yards and nine touchdowns, and he
had a monster second half that year. I think that's
what people think that's samajp Ryan is gonna be. He's
not gonna get the five to seven carries a game.
He's not gonna be RB two to spell Isaiah Pacheco.

(20:27):
But I mean he did get two targets.

Speaker 7 (20:30):
In the game on Thursday.

Speaker 8 (20:31):
One of those I actually think he scores if Mahomes
throws a little bit better ball to him. So I'm
actually excited to see how his role develops in the
passing game over the next couple of weeks.

Speaker 2 (20:45):
Steph Carrington Harrison ninety six to five The Fan in
Kansas City.

Speaker 3 (20:48):
I know you have a show to do.

Speaker 7 (20:49):
I'll let you go. Do it.

Speaker 2 (20:51):
Really, do appreciate the time. Bengals and Chiefs on Sunday
Live on ESPN fifteen thirty. Pregame coverage starts at noon.
When we come back, we'll try to make some money
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updates one the Reds spoiler alert, not going well in
Saint Louis, and so much more. It's The Orthos sin
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(21:38):
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Sunday at four twenty five live on ESPN fifteen thirty.
We do this on Thursdays during the football season. We
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(22:01):
from Paramount Sports Paramount Sports dot com.

Speaker 3 (22:04):
Lee, It's always good to have you. What's going on?

Speaker 9 (22:06):
I'm good? So what's the goal with the Reds get
to five hundred? Now finished with a winning record?

Speaker 2 (22:14):
There there are five unders soon to be six hunders,
so that seems unrealistic. I don't know that there's any
plausible outcome from here on out to the end of
the year that's going to make people feel good about
twenty twenty four.

Speaker 9 (22:28):
Yeah, I listen to you. I mean, you've you've suffered
last couple of months, so I feel bad for you. So, hey,
it could be worse. You could be a Marlins fan
like me.

Speaker 3 (22:39):
Right, this is very, very true, Lee, thankfully.

Speaker 9 (22:43):
About the Marlins.

Speaker 3 (22:46):
Are what I was gonna say. Since the Reds.

Speaker 2 (22:51):
Yeah, but you know what, since since the Reds last
advanced in the postseason, your team has won two titles.
It's been a while, but They've won two titles and then.

Speaker 9 (22:59):
They they totally tear it down. And every season is apps.
I couldn't name one. They want to church thirty nine
to ninety five for an app just to watch Marlins games?
Are you kidding me?

Speaker 3 (23:16):
I understand.

Speaker 9 (23:18):
I trippled that and I handed out. I gave out
some money some people you know who need you need meals.
I'm not paying forty bucks to watch bad baseball. They'll
have five good pitchers next year, five good starters, but
their lineup is is bad or worse than the Seattle Mariners.
It's that bad.

Speaker 2 (23:35):
Yeah, and it doesn't have to be all right, Well,
let's let's try to make a similar amount of money
on football this week.

Speaker 3 (23:40):
Let's start.

Speaker 2 (23:41):
Let's start in the college game Saturday. It's the victory Bell.
It's Cincinnati trying to emotionally bounce back from that loss
to Pittsburgh where they blew the twenty one point lead.
They go to Yeager Stadium for the first time in
seven years as a field goal favorite.

Speaker 3 (23:56):
Lee, what do you like?

Speaker 9 (23:57):
Yeah, before the I mean that was the disaster. I
mean that kind of you didn't feel good after that happened.
That was a six point swing here. Visitor has two
weeks to put in a game plan here. I think
that helps him out a little bit here and two
and ten straight up against teams at the FBS level

(24:20):
here on Saturfield's watch, including last year's loss the RedHawks.
Nothing special with Brett Gabbertt. I mean, back for six year.
We need to quarterbacks. Back for six years, not much future.
Maybe he can do something else he should. We got
a guy at Miami Cam McCormick ninth year, he got
hurt four straight years. Did you see the special on

(24:43):
him on ESPN game Days That? Yeah, I did four
straight years. So hey, I appreciate the perseverance. That's great,
But if you're in your six, seventh, eighth, or ninth year,
you should have a couple of degrees. I hate to
say it, Miami, Ohio twenty.

Speaker 7 (24:59):
One twenty.

Speaker 3 (25:01):
That's not what I wanted to hear. A league.

Speaker 2 (25:03):
All right, Well, let's let's turn to the NFL, where
the Rapids get a horror ball on the opposite sideline
for the second consecutive week. Baltimore a big favorite against
Las Vegas.

Speaker 9 (25:15):
And wow do they produce after a loss. Baltimore has
won the last five years by average of seventeen point
seven points in those games after a loss, so they
got an extra a couple of days to prepare. That helps.
It's talk about bad coaching. Antonio Pears. In the game

(25:35):
last week, Las Vegas is sitting inside the Chargers territory,
down one in the fourth quarter. What do they do?

Speaker 7 (25:43):
They punt? They end up losing.

Speaker 9 (25:47):
Yes, So if you can't get a yard in the
fourth quarter in your opponent's territory, you don't deserve to win.
How about this kid, Isaiah Likely what's lost in him
having his toenails didn't cut his toenails so he could
stay in bounds. He might be the next great tight end.
I think he's better than Mark Andrews right now. I

(26:10):
mean you got to give Mark Andrews credit get back
on the field, and Derrick Henry given him just twelve
to fifteen carries. It looks like he's got some juice
left here. Their defense only gave up sixteen points per
game last year, sixty sacks, thirty one takeaways. Vegas is
in trouble here thirty five to fourteen.

Speaker 5 (26:27):
Cravens, all right.

Speaker 2 (26:29):
I hope you have better news for me than he did.
With the Bearcats when the Bengals go to Kansas City
getting nearly a touchdown against the Chiefs.

Speaker 9 (26:37):
So I am going to give you some advice, or
I'm gonna give some cent some advice into the Cincinnati
coaching staff. The last preseason game, you should play all
your starters three quarters. They gotta do something different. You
can't come out with that game plan with the way
those kids performed. Again, that was an embarrassment. Now against

(27:01):
Kansas City, Cincinnati has done well. I mean except for
last year when they had to play a backup quarterback
in the game, lost by eight. Pretty Much every game
is a three point game either way here. So you know,
Kansas City's good, but you know what, I think that
they can be had here. So, uh, this might be
the game you break out a trick play here. You

(27:22):
got to be aggressive. New England just sat back and
they said you're not saving on a big play. And
Cincinnati's play calling was terrible in the execution, worst upset City.
It's not gonna make any sense, but Cincinnati twenty four
to twenty one.

Speaker 3 (27:37):
Whoa Lee? Continues the pattern.

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Speaker 3 (28:44):
Next week, okay, take it all right?

Speaker 2 (28:47):
Seventeen away from four o'clock. By the way, Redslou's six
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Speaker 3 (28:52):
It has just gone finals.

Speaker 2 (28:53):
Cincinnati drops two out of three to the Cardinals. Off
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ten minutes.

Speaker 3 (29:07):
Away from four. This is ESPN fifteen thirty on Moegar.

Speaker 2 (29:11):
On Thursdays, we chat with Chadbrendell Bearcat Journal dot Com.
You see in Miami on Saturday, a noon kickoff at
Jaeger Stadium, And so like Chad, it's Thursday. We're less
than forty eight hours away from kickoff, and yet I'm
having a hard time turning the page.

Speaker 3 (29:30):
I hope the players aren't. I am.

Speaker 2 (29:33):
I really know we're not supposed to relitigate the pit game,
but I can't help myself.

Speaker 3 (29:38):
Is that okay?

Speaker 7 (29:40):
That's perfectly fine with me. I've been I wasn't all
that mad until the press conference on Tuesday.

Speaker 3 (29:48):
What was most upsetting about that.

Speaker 7 (29:52):
We would have given Corey Kinner the ball more if
we had gotten more first downs. You know how you
get more first downs, coach, you give it to the
guy average been seven and a half yards to touch.
How about that that part? Like just just say you know, yeah,

(30:15):
we went back and looked at the tape. Probably a
couple opportunities there where we could have we could have
helped ourselves by giving Corey the ball instead of now
we we we do it exactly like we would do it.
We just would get a couple first downs and then
we would give Corey the ball more.

Speaker 3 (30:30):
Come on, come on.

Speaker 2 (30:32):
I mean, there were everybody focuses on the second and one,
and understandably so.

Speaker 3 (30:37):
But there was a moment earlier in.

Speaker 2 (30:38):
That game, and this is really when I started to
have kind of an ominous feeling. Early second quarter. I
think at this point they're up two scores. Corey runs
for twenty five, twenty six yards, they crossed the fifty.

Speaker 3 (30:51):
Then they call a flea flicker.

Speaker 2 (30:52):
Now, I'm all for inventomness and creativity, and I like
Brandon Sorosby, but boy, if there's a moment where I
just want to I just want to keep doing what
I'm doing. I understand if Corey needs a blow there,
that's one thing, But boy, I just I felt there
like things got. I know it's cliche, just a little
bit too cute, when what they were doing was just
line up bread and butter, give it to Corey football,

(31:13):
which was working great.

Speaker 7 (31:16):
Somebody told me something this week and I've I've said
it on all of my shows. So if you've listened,
you've heard this, I want your reaction to it. Sometimes
you're not playing chess. Sometimes you're just playing checkers.

Speaker 3 (31:29):
Uh huh.

Speaker 7 (31:31):
You know the old saying, and it's that guy's playing chess,
this guy's playing that guy's playing checkers, this guy's playing chess. No,
but sometimes the game in front of you is just checkers.
You snap it, you hand it off to twenty one,
you get seven and a half yards, and incrementally you
win the game and you don't have to get cute.
And in the second half it felt like they were

(31:53):
overthinking it, like you're your identity as a football program
under Scott saderfy is run the football and you have
a great college running back and you gave him the
ball three times in the fourth quarter. Not only did
you give him the ball three times in the fourth quarter,

(32:15):
but he gained forty three yards on those three carries
forw many six yards, eight yards, nine yards that give
him the ball. Just give him the ball when they
start to make their comeback and Pitt doesn't have enough
time to catch you and he runs for twenty six yards.

(32:38):
They throw it three straight times and with the fleet
flicker being the first of those, and then he runs
for nine yards or he runs for eight yards. They
do complete a nice pass to Jamoi Mas that gets
them a first down. They run it again. He gets
nine yards and second and one, and he's not in
on either of the next two plays. What do we

(32:59):
do it? Just I can't get my mind around it.
He could not have been tired, though he had run
three times in the quarter. The game is on the line.
You're up to if he gets the first down, you're
salting away the game. You're running the clock down to

(33:20):
the point that Pitt is not going to have a
chance to catch you, and instead you take him out
and it doesn't make any sense.

Speaker 2 (33:30):
And if he comes out because he's tired, Okay, you
saw out. They have timeouts, right like, that's what.

Speaker 3 (33:36):
They're there for.

Speaker 7 (33:38):
You run the clock down to one, you take a
time out, you get Corey some water, and you get
him back on the field. Yeah, you know what, I
go back to you know what, my mind has gone
back to him million times this week.

Speaker 3 (33:52):
Please the Rose Bowl.

Speaker 7 (33:57):
UCLA fickle gave the ball to Mike Warren forty two
times in a game that we all credit for putting
that program back on track. They got the confidence from
winning that game and they ran with it and had

(34:19):
a double digit win season. Forty two times they gave
Mike Warren the ball. Now, Mike Warren was indestructible, like
you know, like he wasn't a truck. He was a tank.
You know what I mean? You're not going to give
the ball to Corey Kiner forty two times? How about
twenty five? And the other thing that's really like it

(34:42):
gets under my skin. Though we didn't see Corey and
hardly at all in the spring, wanted to keep the
miles off of him. We didn't see Corey hardly at
all at Camphire Ground. Wanted to keep the miles off
of them. Isn't the point of that? So we can
run twenty five times in a game where you're seeing

(35:03):
a twenty one point lead dwindle away in the fourteen
where the.

Speaker 3 (35:10):
Best player of.

Speaker 10 (35:10):
The field, Yeah, yeah, yeah, I just there's so many
things about it, and I probably would have moved on
mentally if I would have just heard when I asked
first question in the press conference, did you go back
and look at the tape and kind of wish.

Speaker 7 (35:28):
You had given the ball to Corey kin or more?
And the answer was, we would have given it to
him more if we'd have gotten more first down.

Speaker 3 (35:40):
All right, what's going to happen on Saturday?

Speaker 7 (35:45):
Within the damn game? You know, I think something that's
that is important for this game. If Miami's kind of
they are, they have a good defense, but the strength
of that defense is in the red zone. So if
Cincinnati is going to have considerable success in this game,

(36:05):
or enough success to win this game, it's probably not
going to be done from twenty yards in. It's probably
going to need to be done from a little bit
farther out. And Miami gives up a bunch of yards
between the twenties. You know, it's not a defense that
just shuts you down three and out and gets you

(36:26):
off the field. So I think Brendan Sorosby's gonna have
to make some plays with his arm. I think you're
going to probably need to see a longer Corey Kiner
run or two, or you know, any of the other
backs that chance. Williams are Evan Pryor. But I think
you want to avoid what was what sank UC's ship

(36:47):
last year. They kept getting to the red zone and
not scoring touchdowns. What five or six turns into the
red zone last year if I remember correctly, and they
got like six points out of it or something. So
they're gonna have to hit a couple of big plays
to loosen up that Miami defense a little bit. Miami's
offense is not goods. You know, if Miami's moving the

(37:09):
ball up and down the field, Big twelve play is
gonna be is gonna be brutal because that is not
a great Miami offense. And then they really don't run
the ball much at all. So you know, if they're
picking up six seventy eight yards a carry, maybe you
know it might still be able to win them the
Miami game. But you know, you got five or six

(37:33):
like high high quality running backs coming up in Big
twelve play, and I won't have a lot of faith
in stopping them. I mean, there's no win in this situation.

Speaker 5 (37:44):
Bro.

Speaker 7 (37:45):
If you beat Miami, you're supposed to beat Miami. If
you lose to Miami, we are efficient. We're not off
the rails. We are in a ditch on the side
of the rails at the bottom of a hill.

Speaker 2 (38:00):
Wait, I got like I got like thirty seconds here,
and so maybe this is not a question that's that's
that has a concise answer. We talked about the three
three five last week. If the three three five isn't
putting pressure on quarterbacks and yet he's finding open receivers,
what's the point of the three three five.

Speaker 7 (38:21):
I mean, the the problem I have right now, though,
is they don't have enough quality defensive linemen to run
three of them out there at any given time. So
I don't know what adding an extra one is gonna
do a whole lot of good. I think the biggest
issue right now, you know they're getting some some pressure.

(38:42):
I mean, we saw Eli Holstein escape pressure a bunch.
That's what happens when you only bring three because you know,
and I saw some some video breakdowns of this with
Trey Hendrickson in the Bengals game Sunday. Trey Hendrickson is
the only one getting pressure. So if the quarterback avoids

(39:02):
one guy, there's nobody there to clean him up. And
outside of you know, Jarrett Bartlett's been been good. Jonathan
Thompson made a play for a sack against Pitt. How
many other times do you remember the linebackers doing anything though? Right?

Speaker 11 (39:20):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (39:21):
If you go back to like, if we're if we're
taking them over thirty seconds, I'm sorry, if we're taking
the Iowa State defense and looking at that as what
this defense wants to be. Iowa State had two and
three All conference linebackers every year. The linebackers are what
made this defense really really good. Cincinnati's not getting good

(39:42):
linebacker played.

Speaker 2 (39:46):
Uh well said, I hope we have something more fun
to talk about next week.

Speaker 3 (39:50):
Thank you as always, God, I hope so cemo.

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Ansor It's Bengals versus Chiefs.

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Speaker 1 (40:23):
The football world will be trained on Kansas.

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Speaker 3 (40:51):
All right, so this is gonna go viral.

Speaker 2 (40:55):
Jamar Chase, according to our buddy Jay Morrison, says, quote,
where are the team to beat in the AFC. That's
that's gonna get a lot of run. That's gonna get
a lot of headlines. That's that's gonna be Everybody in
Kansas City is gonna be talking about it. I promise
you those shows tomorrow where they scream at each other

(41:19):
about sports, where Steven A. Smith, I guess was screaming
about Mike Brown today and we've got to play that
audio a little bit later on.

Speaker 3 (41:27):
I promise you tomorrow on all of.

Speaker 2 (41:30):
Those shows, you'll see that the Chiron, as they say
in the TV business, and the people on the panel
will be yelling at each other about this. Jamar says,
where the team to beat in the AFC? Good afternoon,
al Moeger, This is ESPN fifteen thirty thrill join with us.
By the way, Jay is gonna join us in ten minutes.
Are the Bengals the team to beat in the AFC? Well, no,

(41:52):
the Chiefs are.

Speaker 3 (41:53):
I mean we can.

Speaker 2 (41:54):
They won the conference. Last year, they won the title,
they won the super Bowl. They won the conference two
years ago they won the super Bowl. They have beaten
the Bengals head to head the last two times. They,
as we say, rule the roost in the AFC. So
they're the team if you have to make it about one,
they're the team to beat. I'm okay saying that. But

(42:16):
here is the part of this, and I'm reading Jay's
tweet about this. Here is the part of this that's
not going to get as much run that I think
is important. In fact, it's more important than Jamar is
saying where the team to beat in the AFC. According
to Jay's tweet, Jamar says, we need to act like it,

(42:38):
we need to play like it. He's right about that.
They need to act like they're the team to beat
in the AFC. They need to play and act like
they're the team to beat in this conference, which means
whatever that game plan was on Sunday against the Patriots.
Uh uh, this whole idea, and I know what a

(43:01):
quarterback is saying. Joe said yesterday, we got to take
what the defense gives us. And I understand that. But
you let the New England Patriots dictate how you played
last week the Patriots, that can't be the case. We
need the return of e Fitt. Jamar's down there somewhere right.

Speaker 3 (43:20):
That's what we need.

Speaker 2 (43:23):
This team does need to go into Arrowhead with a
degree of urgency. The team to beat plays with urgency.
They rise to the occasion. They embrace a rivalry, they
embrace an environment. The part that everybody's gonna lose their
mind over is the where the team to beat part. Okay, fine,
they're not Kansas City's the two time defending AFC champs.

(43:47):
They're the standards set are in this conference. I understand that.
I'm okay with it. They have the best quarterback in
the sport.

Speaker 3 (43:54):
We all know that.

Speaker 2 (43:56):
I do expect a player, especially a prolific accomplished, great
player like Jamar Chase to feel like, dude, we're I
understand that. But the part that matters Bengals need to
play like it. That's what has to happen on Sunday.
Forget digging out of an zero to two start. Let's
for one stop with the whole game. Three can you

(44:17):
afford to go oh and three? Avoid that by going
to Kansas City and winning and doing some imposing of
yourselves instead of letting the defense and the other team
dictate how you play. Uh, we have more of Jamar Chase.
This is from our buddy trags, Mike Petrellia. Give me
some of that Aran Jamar Chase just a little while
ago on Sunday's opponent.

Speaker 12 (44:39):
Nah, Honestly, I just feel like they just have The
defensive coordinator is a great, great defensive coordinator. I can
say that for a fact. And he uses all his
weapons and his secondary skills to you know that the
players that they play and now that he has sneak on,
Sneak did a good job of knowing his leverage and
help when.

Speaker 4 (44:56):
We played against each other.

Speaker 12 (44:58):
But you know, I just feel like the defensive cocording
does a good job of using his players.

Speaker 13 (45:01):
How an important is for this offense to generate more
explosive players.

Speaker 4 (45:06):
It's a part of our offense.

Speaker 12 (45:08):
I feel like that's one of the key that we
didn't really get a part of the show last week.

Speaker 4 (45:13):
We still have it. You know, it's just gonna always.

Speaker 12 (45:15):
It's not always for every game, every purpose, but you know,
when we have opportunity, we got to capitalize on it.

Speaker 4 (45:20):
It comes with me and the offense.

Speaker 14 (45:22):
What's been the big message.

Speaker 15 (45:23):
Amongst y'all this week after last week?

Speaker 4 (45:27):
Like I said earlier, you know, I just told the guys.

Speaker 12 (45:29):
I told the receiver room, you know this, we couldn't
ask for a better chance to get a win right here.

Speaker 4 (45:34):
We couldn't ask for a better chance for.

Speaker 12 (45:35):
The receivers to go crazy, for the for the quarterbacks
to go crazy, and for the whole offense to just
be ourselves again. So you know, I told them this
is this is our chance to make a mark for
the receivers.

Speaker 13 (45:44):
What is the impact comput if you are able to
find yourselves in this kind of week just kind of opponents.

Speaker 2 (45:50):
What kind of impact if you can have long term
for y'all to find yourselves against this side?

Speaker 3 (45:53):
A component this kind of matter.

Speaker 12 (45:55):
I'm telling you when we got a time, I ain't
going that far. I'm right now its KC. I'm focused
on KC and what they could do.

Speaker 4 (46:02):
I don't know.

Speaker 12 (46:02):
I just disciplined, you know what I'm saying. Just on
how they play the game. You know what I'm saying,
They got a good decoordinator. If they know they scheme
well and they know what they got going on with
their levers, then they'll be fine. But odd job is
the birthday leverage and make them feel confused.

Speaker 2 (46:17):
Jamar Chase, we stole that from Mike Petrellia trags, our
buddy who has occasionally filled in on this show Bengals
Chiefs on Sunday. By the way, it's fun to hear
Jamar Chase talk. It's really fun to hear about him
talk about something besides his contract.

Speaker 3 (46:29):
Good stuff.

Speaker 2 (46:30):
By the way, he was referencing the defensive coordinator Steve Spagnolo,
and also he mentioned Lugerius Snead, who obviously left this offseason.
He now is with the Titans, and his Tennessee debut
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he played against the Kansas City Chiefs, I said this
the day after, and I believe it. Two and a
half years later, Jamar Chase played the best game I've
ever seen a wide receiver play. The quality of the catches,
the degree of difficulty, the stages in the game, and
in some of the drives. Those those catches came in

(47:35):
the stakes of the game, like eleven catches, two hundred
and sixty six yards and three touchdowns. And as awesome
as those numbers are, they don't even begin to tell
the entire story.

Speaker 3 (47:47):
Jamar was unbelievable. It is interesting he hasn't.

Speaker 2 (47:50):
Played poorly against Kansas City since, but in the four
games since, Jamar is averaging seventy five yards a game.
Now he had a good game, had a good game
in that came here in twenty two of the game
where Travis Kelsey fumbled head ninety five yards receiving, but
he tore him up. And you never would have expected
Jamar to have two sixty six in the game against

(48:11):
Kansas City. But it is interesting since then he has
not had a one hundred yard game. He also hasn't
scored a touchdown. And on that early January day in
twenty twenty two against Kansas City, the greatest game I've
ever seen a wide receiver play. Jamar had three touchdowns
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Speaker 3 (48:47):
Brenneman and Jones on baseball.

Speaker 2 (48:50):
A couple of Bengals notes really quick, Logan Wilson back
T Higgins still on the rehab field, same with Chris Jenkins.
Jay Morrison was there. He'll join us. This is the
Orthos Cincy Moeger Show. On ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports Station.

Speaker 1 (49:06):
Cincinnati's ian Excu's Football in Thenetti on the official home
of the Bengals, Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty.

Speaker 2 (49:16):
Our guy Jay Morrison joins us on Thursday's Pro Football
Network Pro Football Network Bengals Podcast.

Speaker 11 (49:22):
He covers the.

Speaker 3 (49:22):
Bengals for Pro Football Network.

Speaker 2 (49:24):
He's on X buy Jay Morrison and we just read
his tweet about Jamar Chase Is saying the Bengals of
the team to beat in the AFC.

Speaker 3 (49:34):
Jay, did he say that with a straight face?

Speaker 16 (49:38):
He did say that with a straight face. I think
he really believes it. I guess it doesn't really matter
if anybody else does. But you would expect that kind
of confidence from a guy. It's a little bold to
say that, but you know, we've heard bolder things from Jamar,
and he kind of stayed away today from the personal
attachment at Lagerias Need.

Speaker 5 (49:56):
Last year he.

Speaker 16 (49:57):
Got into it with him both the pregame and in
the game. Need no longer. With the Chiefs, Jamar was
very I guess cough, careful, cautious. However, we recall it.
He was very complimentary of Steve Spagnola, the chief defensive coordinator.
He talked about the Chief's scheme and nothing but glowing
things to say about the Chiefs, but also said the

(50:18):
Bengals are the team to beat in the AFC.

Speaker 2 (50:20):
Yeah, and I guess he should feel that way. I'm
just I'm excited that we're reading Jamar Chase quotes that
have nothing to do with his contract and everything to
do with football.

Speaker 5 (50:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 11 (50:31):
I mean, it seems like it's put to bed.

Speaker 16 (50:32):
It's always been a kind of a long standing policy
of the Bengals not negotiating season. Jamar said last week
Friday was his deadline. You have thought, with how poorly
everything went Sunday, that maybe there'd be a reconsideration. But
if that was the case, something probably when I got
done Monday or Tuesday. So it really does feel like
this is behind everybody. We'll go through the whole scenario

(50:53):
again in twenty twenty five.

Speaker 2 (50:55):
So when you're a team coming off a poor defensive
performance against the and you had all the mistackles that
lou An Aruma was understandably so complaining about. When I
see Logan Wilson not practice yesterday, that that frightens me
because he was one of the few that was was good.

Speaker 3 (51:11):
He played well against against New England.

Speaker 2 (51:13):
Should I feel Should I feel all the way better
about the fact that he was back in the practice
field today.

Speaker 16 (51:20):
I mean, he was limited today, but I I do
that it doesn't sound like it is anything serious. I
would expect him to be out there on Sunday, and
I would expect him to be better. It's just one
of those things where we you talk about it so much,
where they just don't do much in the preseason and
there's it seems like tackling every year, not just with

(51:42):
the Bengals, every team it's an issue in Week one
and fourteen, that's a that's a new high in the
six years that lou Ana Riumo.

Speaker 5 (51:50):
Has been here.

Speaker 16 (51:51):
You would it would be crazy to think they're gonna
it's gonna be even worse this week. So I do
expect it to get better and and considerably better. But
on the flip side, I mean, Isaiah Pacheco is a
unning back that makes good defenses look bad. He runs hard,
he breaks a lot of tackles, so it's gonna be
a challenge.

Speaker 2 (52:07):
You did a dive into the play that a lot
of us talked about on Sunday night, and Monday, and
that was the fourth and two pass where Andrea Josabash
doesn't get the first down. And I understand the coaching
point there, and I understand the explanations. Can can we
just make a general rule that whatever yard did you
need on fourth down? Can we just throw the ball

(52:28):
one inch past that?

Speaker 7 (52:31):
Yeah?

Speaker 16 (52:32):
It sounds so simple, but Zach Taylor's pointing out how
the defense knows that too, and that's where they're they're
lined up there and they're kind of daring you to
throw it short of the sticks and try to get
the first down. And sometimes that's an attack you have
to take. You You sometimes need to trust your guys
to get that extra yard or sometimes two or three yards.

(52:53):
But it doesn't seem like that's been a long time
m for Joe Burrow. He's been so much more aggressive,
and it just that play kind of encapsulated the whole
day where it was just more of a I don't
know if when I say tim and just a more
cautious approach by Joe where he was willing to take
the checkdowns and not really force the ball into any

(53:14):
tight windows. And I think that that's got to go
by the wayside. And I think it will you ease
your way into the season. I think we're going to
see a lot more aggressive Bengals offense on Sunday Kansas City.

Speaker 3 (53:26):
Yeah, I certainly hope.

Speaker 2 (53:28):
So what was interesting to me You talked about tackling
and you know, not to just NonStop relitigate the game.
On Sunday, there were a ton of checkdowns. The passes
that were completed didn't go for any yards after the catch,
And I don't know specifically what that speaks to, but
I'm all for the short passing game being a part
of this offense, but there does have to be the

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potential for a guy to break a break, a break
a tackle for a long run, or catch a ball
in space ideally and be able to turn up field.
Was it striking to you how that was missing against
New England?

Speaker 16 (54:01):
Yeah, it really was. And this was again it was
something new. We saw Jamar in the slot fifteen times,
the almost half of the snaps in there. I just
when we talked him today, I asked him about that
and he said he loves it in there because that
very fact where he can get the ball in more
of an open space, and we've seen him do it
so many times, break one tackle and he can be gone.

(54:22):
It didn't work out that way, but especially against Kansas
City where they loved double team Jamar and it's really
hard to do if he's in the slot. So I
do think even some of those short intermediate crossers the
Bengals can really feast in there. And you know that,
like I said earlier, Lajariusneed's gone. It's a young Kansas
City defense, and young teams make mistakes early in the year.

(54:43):
It's something of that the Bengals are going to have
to exploit.

Speaker 2 (54:46):
Jay Morrison with his Pro Football Network. I appreciate it
as always, man, thanks so much.

Speaker 11 (54:52):
Okay, good talking to you.

Speaker 14 (54:52):
Moo.

Speaker 2 (54:54):
Always get Jay on x at by Jay Morrison does
a terrific job and catch the Pro Football Network podcast
Bengals Pro Football Network podcast as well. Twenty eight minutes
after four o'clock Sunday, We're at Dickman's and fort right.
Game's gonna start at four to twenty five. Here's here's

(55:14):
what I do, okay, and I typically wouldn't tell you
to be like me games at four twenty five. Obviously
you got all the one o'clock kick golfs. What I
what I do is like I get there at halftime
of the early games and they'll have, you know, the ticket,
so you can watch every game and hang out and
eat and you know, socialize a little bit, hopefully cash

(55:35):
a few wagers, and then we lock in for Bengals Chiefs.
We're gonna have some awesome prizes. And when I say
awesome prizes, I mean awesome prizes. What are the prizes
that are so awesome? Well, you'll have to be there
to find out. How about that? And obviously the folks
at Dickman's are awesome. Great beer selection, terrific, wings is

(55:56):
twenty one and over, but gonna be a blast Sunday.
We are thrilled to be back at Dickman's and smoke
justice for Bengals road games this season.

Speaker 3 (56:04):
Cannot wait.

Speaker 2 (56:04):
Hopefully you join us on Sunday and for what it's worth.
Okay ready, admission is free twenty nine minutes after four o'clock.
Later on in the show, Taylor Twelveman is going to
be with this Apple TV huge tilt Saturday Night, FC
Cincinnati hosting Columbus. By the way, I got emails about

(56:28):
Chad Brendle's frustration with Wiscott, Saderfield and the coaching on Saturday.
You know, the game against Miami is sort of no
when if you win, you're supposed to if you lose.
You know, everything that everybody is saying and thinking in
the aftermath of the Pittsburgh game is going to be multiplied.
I I still do hold out hope this team can

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be okay in the Big twelve. A lot of what
I saw against Pittsburgh would suggest as much. Give me
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and Jones on baseball.

Speaker 3 (58:39):
This is a fun event. It's a fun event. Annually.

Speaker 2 (58:42):
You hear me talk about hit Seeker sports cards all
the time and have done some cardbreak streams for them.
They've been a big part of this show for the
last couple of months and thrilled to have them with us.
They are gonna have a couple of areas set up
at Octoberfest Covington Octoberfest which runs three days tomorrow and

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then Saturday and then on Sunday, and they're gonna have
like a chance for you to watch the Bengals game
down there. They're gonna have a tailgate before the game.
Braxton Beer is obviously a huge part of this, and
our buddy Jake Rowse from hit Seekers is with us
to tell us some more. I know you are busy,
You've got a rip night on Saturday, You've got this
event this weekend. I don't know when you're gonna sleep,

(59:24):
but it's good to have you. Nonetheless, Bro'll, well.

Speaker 17 (59:27):
We'll sleep when the weekend's over, that's right. But I
appreciate you having us on as always.

Speaker 2 (59:32):
Man, all right, so coming to october Fest. This event
has been going on for years. Gebal Park, give folks
an idea maybe who haven't been Maybe everything that's gonna
be happening over the weekend and we'll talk about hit
Seekers specifically.

Speaker 17 (59:46):
Yeah, it's gonna be an amazing weekend. You know, tons
of great dude, tons of great music.

Speaker 11 (59:51):
You know, beer.

Speaker 17 (59:51):
But the cool part about hit Seekers is we sponsor
the kids activation area. So two little inflatable set up,
a speed pitch and a football toss come down.

Speaker 11 (01:00:01):
You know, you can rip some cards.

Speaker 17 (01:00:03):
We're gonna have some cards for sale, and just kind of,
you know, hang out and enjoy the Octoberfest festival.

Speaker 3 (01:00:11):
And the Hitseekers.

Speaker 2 (01:00:12):
I've talked about them now for a while and it's
it's been fun doing some stuff with you guys for
maybe the uninitiated, give folks an idea of what you
guys do.

Speaker 7 (01:00:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 17 (01:00:21):
So, I mean, we are a modern baseball card shop,
and our entire plan is to try to make baseball
cards cool again and drive a community of people who
really have a shared passion for a hobby. And so
doing bigger events like this Octoberfest really allow us to
kind of push further into people who may not have,
you know, experienced baseball cards since they were kids. And

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it's really fun to meet people at all these events
and talk through kind of their collections because everybody's got
something in an attic or or you know, has.

Speaker 11 (01:00:49):
A card that they don't know about.

Speaker 17 (01:00:50):
And it's just a blast to meet the community and
hang out. And what a better way to do it
than at Octoberfest this weekend.

Speaker 3 (01:00:57):
Yeah, And what I like about this, and you talked
about it.

Speaker 2 (01:00:59):
I think it's cool to watch kids get into card collecting.

Speaker 11 (01:01:03):
There's nothing more fun. I can tell you.

Speaker 17 (01:01:05):
We we have a bait, we have a shot down
inside a great American ballpark and watching kids open up
some massive hits and just their faces light up is
an absolute blast. So this week it would be a
great way to extend that.

Speaker 2 (01:01:18):
All right, so look for hit seekers. You have two inflatables?
Is that the Is that what I'm hearing?

Speaker 17 (01:01:23):
Yeah, you'll see them for sure right around the playground area.
And then obviously we're having a massive tailgate for the
Bengals game away at the Chiefs.

Speaker 11 (01:01:31):
There's a there's a fifteen foot TV down there, game
audio will be on. It would be a great place
to watch with a bunch of Bengals fans.

Speaker 3 (01:01:37):
All right, So all, yeah, what's that.

Speaker 11 (01:01:41):
We're not we're not charging ninety nine bucks a ticket?

Speaker 2 (01:01:48):
Well, you answer my next question. So that's good, all right,
So you could check out the game and hit Seekers
will be there all three days.

Speaker 11 (01:01:55):
Correct, that's correct, We'll be there the whole weekend.

Speaker 3 (01:02:00):
All right, So check that out.

Speaker 2 (01:02:01):
And it's a kids activation area, so if you got
a kid who's either into card collecting or you'll want
to sort of introduce them to the hobby, a great opportunity,
I know. Coinciding with this, you've got an event on
Saturday night at the shop, right.

Speaker 11 (01:02:15):
That's right.

Speaker 17 (01:02:16):
Yeah, it's tops Rip Night, the largest opportunity to open up,
you know, cards across the country, every shop that is
a tops Direct shop is activating.

Speaker 11 (01:02:25):
So down at the shop.

Speaker 17 (01:02:26):
And Fort Mitchell there'll be a ton of fun giveaways
and all of those things.

Speaker 11 (01:02:31):
So make a whole day out of it.

Speaker 2 (01:02:34):
Uh yeah, do it all day Saturday. Stop by check
out tops Rip Night on Saturday evening. Where can folks
go for more info?

Speaker 17 (01:02:42):
Hit Seekerscard Breaks dot Com is the website and then.

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Have going on.

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If you haven't been to the hit Seekers Card store
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on Dixie Highway. It is awesome. I know you're busy
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Are really gonna love hit seekers.

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all right, you're back with us. I'm I'm one tozer
in one league, ohing one.

Speaker 7 (01:03:54):
On the other.

Speaker 3 (01:03:55):
But I feel good thanks to your advice.

Speaker 7 (01:03:58):
Oh Man, and Melie.

Speaker 5 (01:04:00):
Just on par you sound pretty average there, I mean,
just keeping them right along in line with expectation. Now, man,
week one was I mean, yeah, as Bengal fans, we
all know week one was rough, but man, it was
rough for a lot of fantasy. Man, it's theer's two
a number of just top notch performers that put up
a lot of goose eggs. Obviously a lot of big injuries.

(01:04:23):
So hey, we're all glad it's the season again. Here's
all the drama and stress we love about it.

Speaker 2 (01:04:28):
That's right, that's what makes it the best. Give me
some words of wisdom as we look ahead the week two.

Speaker 5 (01:04:33):
Starting time, Yes, words with how about some early season therapy, right,
that's what we all need. Let's start there as you've
been saying, as Joe Burrow said in his press conference,
And we'll tell all those listening for fantasy purposes, one
week does not make a season.

Speaker 7 (01:04:47):
Here.

Speaker 5 (01:04:48):
Obviously, injuries and things like that can't be overdone. But
let's not overreact. I'm sticking with a lot of the
things I like before the season. Sure, we're seeing some
we're getting some more data, we're making some shit changes
in our opinions per se. But the second thing I
will say earlier in the year, always work on improving
that rockster. One of the biggest mistakes I see people

(01:05:09):
in fantasy. They get a couple wins out of the gate,
they think their team's better than it is, they miss
out on some waiver wires, stay diligent, and finally, this
is my favorite thing to do. This time you take
advantage of others in patients, guys that are just getting cut.
I can't believe how many blake Korm drops. They're wearing
the drafted this dude, and after one week you're dropping

(01:05:32):
the rookie.

Speaker 16 (01:05:32):
It happened in literally half.

Speaker 5 (01:05:34):
My season long, leagues. Dude, I'm telling you, people make
dumb decisions and that's when you really need to take advantage.

Speaker 3 (01:05:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:05:42):
No, I've noticed that I am a blake Korm owner
because of it.

Speaker 3 (01:05:46):
So you're speaking my language. Uh, there's a.

Speaker 2 (01:05:49):
Long list of injuries for this early in the season.
Let's start with Jordan Love.

Speaker 5 (01:05:54):
Yeah, Jordan Love's the real big buzzkill coming out of
the week. And the way it happened on the last play,
I mean, it was the best case scenario with the
MCL But let's be honest, Malik willis led Packer offense.
We're downgrading the entire portfolio here outside of Josh Jacobs
is a low end RB two because of the decent
matchup versus the Colts. I'm not gonna put any of

(01:06:15):
the receivers in play, including Jayden Reid off his big game,
the biggest flash outside of that. At running back, Christian McCaffrey,
the surprise and active on Monday night. He's practiced in
two straight, Dave, it still looks a little murky for this.
Jordan Mason in a smash spot again. If he's out tonight,
we know where he moster won't play with the chest issue.

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Miami's ruled him out at running back. His backfield Nte
the Devon Ah chain A Chan is dealing with an ankle.
They're gonna take him through warm ups. Man, it's a
dicey spot for fantasy managers. A second round pick, a
dame time decision.

Speaker 7 (01:06:50):
If he plays, how much will he.

Speaker 5 (01:06:53):
Enter at your own risk. Kenneth Walker one of my
favorite running backs. He's already dealing with an adman issue,
so we're gonna keep our eyes on him. Kuka Nakula,
he's placed on IRMO. That's at least four weeks, they're
talking longer. DeMarcus Robinson could be a sleeper merch for
the Rams. I think you all know and have talked
well enough about Pete Higgins, so his value continues to drop.

(01:07:15):
Hollywood br tight end Jake Ferguson and David Najoku. These
are the two guys that the tight ends that definitely
suffered big injuries. Najoku high ankle spring out multiple weeks
for the Browns.

Speaker 2 (01:07:33):
Yeah, we're paying attention to there, Dan Klaskins, get Sportsinfo
dot com, give me your weekly studs, duds and sleepers.

Speaker 5 (01:07:42):
Yes. My favorite play of the entire week is Derrick Henry.
I mean it wasn't very great in the opener because
of game flow and the way it was versus the Chiefs.
He finishes RB third. He's my RB one this week.
Get the Raiders team the guys he's replacing JK. Dobbins
and Gus Edwards. They went off for about a buck
sixty on them last week. Henry's in a smash spot
as the Ravens opened verst the Raiders at home there.

Speaker 7 (01:08:04):
I love Mike.

Speaker 5 (01:08:05):
Evans last week. I really loved that whole game. Detroit
and Tampa Bay a lot of fantasy goodness. Evan's two
touchdowns last week. I looked for him the build on
their sixty one receiving yards and have a breakout perform
and another big performance. I should say the duds of
the week Aaron Jones. He looked great in Week one,
but that was against the Giants, the Niners, a tougher
opponent here, only three double digit performances the running backs

(01:08:27):
and their eight of their last nine regular season games,
So I don't think Jones does much. I'm dumb with
Dallas Goddard. He is on the douglast versus Atlanta. It's
just not passing the eyeball test though. I mean if
he liked four catches for thirty one yards, I mean,
Dallas Goddard's your guy, but not a lot of upside.
And my sleepers Dustin Fields. Yeah, I don't think he's great,
but in fantasy he could be Vers Denver and Greg

(01:08:50):
George my wide receiver. He saw him second in targets
last week for the Cardinals, and the guy in PPR
leagues especially, I think has a pretty high floor based
off that target.

Speaker 3 (01:09:01):
Dan Klaskins, Get sportsinfo dot com.

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What's new at get sportsinfo dot com.

Speaker 5 (01:09:07):
Well, no, you can always get at my free content there,
my podcast, my picks, at my confidence poll, all of
it there. Of course, hit me on exit. Dan Klaskins
and I'm sorry because I'm literally sitting here in a
parking lot now and there's this Ghostbusters car coming out there.
That's so cool. I'm gonna have to send you a
picture of this, dred. I'm a little distractive right now.
This Ghostbuster's car at Turkey Foot Middle School is anyway? MO,

(01:09:31):
good luck in week two in your fantasy lineups. I
hope you can continue to be average, buddy.

Speaker 3 (01:09:36):
Well, that's sort of the story of my life.

Speaker 2 (01:09:39):
Do I have to worry about there either being Dan
Klaskins or the Ghostbuster car outside of middle school?

Speaker 5 (01:09:48):
No, no, no, exactly. I think we're all safe here.
I think we're all safe.

Speaker 2 (01:09:53):
Just checking, all right, We'll talk next week, man, Thanks
as always, all right, take care? All right, that's her guy,
Dan Laskins gets sports Info. I need to see that picture.
Robert win Troup's gonna take a victory lab because he
sounded the caution alarm last week and none of us
wanted to hear it, and then the Bengals lost.

Speaker 3 (01:10:13):
We're gonna hear.

Speaker 2 (01:10:14):
We're gonna hear from Cam Taylor Brett and I guess
Jamar Chase and talk about Zach Taylor needing to do
what he didn't do last week and the great Taylor Twelman.

Speaker 3 (01:10:22):
Taylor Twelman, I've never had a chance to interview.

Speaker 2 (01:10:25):
He is one of those guys that when I first
started paying attention to soccer, I thought he was awesome
because he didn't talk over my head. He's got the
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coming up in just a bit. Speaking of rivalry to
this weekend. This weekend's about rivalry in this area.

Speaker 3 (01:12:55):
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:12:55):
You got UC in Miami, which is a rivalry based
on traditions. It's a rivalry based on geography, but it's
a rivalry that is based on tradition. And you know,
there have been some some things added to the rivalry
in recent years. Miami winning last year for the first
time in forever, the discontinuation of the rivalry, but look

(01:13:19):
at it goes back to eighteen eighty eight. It's a
college rivalry based on tradition. FC Cincinnati and Columbus. That
is a rivalry that's that's rooted in geography, but there
have been some great games and great games with last year,
in particular at the Eastern Conference Finals some high stakes.
I think the difference with Bengals KC is I think

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this is the best organic rivalry in the NFL, and
which isn't based on tradition, It's not based on geography.
It's it's based on well a recent history of some
really good games. Even the game last year on New
Year's Eve a different feel to the previous four matchups
merely because Joe Burrow wasn't there, but.

Speaker 3 (01:14:02):
Still major stakes.

Speaker 2 (01:14:04):
That game eliminated the Bengals from playoff contention.

Speaker 3 (01:14:10):
And so they've played. It was an eight point game.

Speaker 2 (01:14:12):
So in professional sports, and I know Major League Soccer
is professional sports, but for the most part, in professional sports,
I think rivalries are born out of great games, high stakes.
Some dislike some sort of balance where you know one
team isn't winning all the time, and just great games

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and also a degree of mutual respect. Poll question on
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Which of these team was would you consider the Bengals
the Bengals' biggest current rival Chiefs, Browns, Ravens or Steelers.

(01:14:54):
I consider it the Chiefs they've played in consecutive AFC
Championship games in recent and ears like Bengals Browns. First
of all, it's been kind of one sided. We're not
talking great games, we're not talking high stakes. I'm not
sure the Bengals and Steelers have been considered in recent

(01:15:14):
years to be real peers. Bengals and Chiefs have now.
I think Patrick Mahomes has no peer. This is going
to be a really interesting game from Joe Burrow's perspective,
which I think week to week kind of goes without saying,
here's the reality of it. Okay, when we did the
QB Tiers conversation with Mike Sando, where he talks to

(01:15:37):
fifty NFL people or so and breaks down quarterbacks into
different tiers, he was tempted to have Patrick Mahomes in
a tier by himself, but he had him in the
top tier. Joe Burrow was in that top tier, but
there were people in the NFL telling him, Hey, yeah,
but I'm worried about the injuries. If you're a Bengals fan,

(01:15:59):
chances you are probably get tired of hearing about Joe
Burrow and the injuries and the hesitancy that some people
have and really putting Joe Burrow in that class where
and Patrick Mahomes right now is in a class by himself.
Let's be honest. Dude's got three rings, He's been to
four Super Bowls. He's the best quarterback. He's maybe the
best player in the sport. I'm okay saying that. But

(01:16:21):
for Joe, regardless of where you want to rank him
in relation to Patrick, Well, the narrative is taken hold
of it. It's a narrative that's a fair one. Right,
Can he stay healthy and is there going to be
such an accumulation of injuries that it hampers his ability
down the road to realize his full potential and coming
into this season, Look, the list of injuries for a
guy who's been in the NFL for four years is

(01:16:44):
very extensive. It's a knee, it's a wrist, it's a calf.
For whatever it's worth, it's an appendix. Like there's just
there's a lot of stuff. Well, we continued the conversation
last week, Right, is he one hundred percent? Is he
closed to one hundred percent? If this it represents what

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he looks like when he's not one hundred percent, is
this team doomed?

Speaker 3 (01:17:08):
So this is a.

Speaker 2 (01:17:09):
Really high profile game on Sunday. Every Chiefs game is
a high profile game. Every Bengals Chiefs game is a
high profile game. They're getting whether you like it or not.
The nance Romo Wolfson treatment. I tend to think you
should listen to Dan and Lamp, But that's just me.
More people are gonna be paying attention to this game
on Sunday than we're paying attention to Bengals Patriots. And

(01:17:34):
so if you tire or if you are fatigued with
hearing about Joe Burrow and the injuries, you know what
you really don't want to see on Sunday. Joe looked
like a guy who's still physically compromised. Now, I think
we all understand he's not one hundred percent. It's not

(01:17:54):
that he's not one hundred percent. The big thing for
me is within the framework of him not being one
hundred percent, can he still play effectively? Can he still
help his team win? Can he still avoid mistakes? And
can his coaching staff help him? The answers last week were, No,

(01:18:18):
I know he's not one hundred percent physically. He's basically
said as much. He's doing that thing where he's flexing
his wrist. I know what it looks like when he's healthy,
when he plays well, and I know what it looks
like when he's healthy and he plays the way he
did against the Patriots.

Speaker 3 (01:18:35):
It's night and day.

Speaker 2 (01:18:37):
So I understand he's not where we want him to
be and where he may be here very very soon.
But if he's gonna play well, then you got to
figure out a way. He's got to figure out a
way to play effectively enough. The coaching staff has to
do him some favors. Rapine said this on our show
on Monday. You talk about somebody who's had a busy week.
James or Peene said this on our show on Monday.

(01:18:58):
Joe Burrow didn't do the Bengals. Joe didn't do himself
any favors. Zach Taylor didn't do Joe any favors. So
Zach Taylor doesn't get the excuse, Well, Joe is you
know he's not quite one hundred percent you're playing him.
If you're playing him, that tells me you think you
can win with him. So design game plans around whatever

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he can or can't do if you're gonna have him
do nothing but throw it short. Could it be the
guys who are open enough to be able to make
a play downfield against New England that could not did
not happen.

Speaker 3 (01:19:31):
That's got a change.

Speaker 2 (01:19:33):
Uh sixteen after five o'clock I mentioned I play this.
Uh in any rivalry there there's got to be there's
gotta be something. There's gonna be something said that we
talk about Cam Taylor Britz said it about Xavier Worthy,
the very promising rookie wide out for the Chiefs yesterday.

Speaker 4 (01:19:53):
Great to the Casey offense, that he.

Speaker 5 (01:19:56):
Be prepared for street.

Speaker 11 (01:19:58):
That's about it.

Speaker 6 (01:19:59):
He runs straight, run jet sweeps, and just run straight.
We do too much else, so that's about it. I
feel like you put your hands on him. He's only
one hundred some founds. You put hands on you gonna
stop the speed. So I basically get hands on them.

Speaker 2 (01:20:14):
All he can do is run straight. I don't know
that that's true. The Xavier Worthy that I watched in
the season opener was awesome. I want these guys and
rivalries to say to say stuff like that. I want
these guys in rivalry games to speak the truth as
it relates to how they feel Cam Taylor Britt did that.

(01:20:34):
More on Bengals Chiefs coming up. Robert wintrop is going
to be on our show, by the way, a couple
of other things. Logan Wilson back in practice, limited capacity.
T Higgins and limited again today. I'm sorry, did not
go again today, second straight day. Just forget about him.
I think the question now becomes how long is it
going to be before we see T Higgins and you
talk about a narrative. The longer this goes with t

(01:20:55):
the injury, What does it mean for what he's looking
for when this season comes to good news is Logan
Wilson did go even though his participation was limited. Also,
for what it's worth, Reds lose today to the Cardinals
six to one. Robert Wintraub's excellent Bengals column at Cincinnati
Magazine dot com does it every single week. Go read it,
then listen to our conversation. Next, it's The Orthos Cincy

(01:21:17):
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Speaker 1 (01:21:21):
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Speaker 3 (01:21:34):
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Speaker 2 (01:21:38):
Our guy, Robert Wintrop joins us every Thursday. Wrights a
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latest at Cincinnati Magazine dot com. Robert last week wrote
a column and nobody wanted to read it. Nobody wanted
to hear us talk about it because he was he
was sounding, he was sounding alarms, he was being cautious,

(01:21:59):
he was reminding that this team might have some questions,
might have some words.

Speaker 3 (01:22:03):
So how does it feel to be right?

Speaker 14 (01:22:07):
Listen?

Speaker 15 (01:22:07):
I take no pleasure in it. Okay, this is not
a victory lap.

Speaker 3 (01:22:10):
I'm not happy about it.

Speaker 15 (01:22:12):
But I thought it was playing as day Frankly, and
maybe a lot of people.

Speaker 14 (01:22:16):
You know, I think there's a bit of.

Speaker 15 (01:22:17):
Boiled frog syndrome coming out of Cincinnati where people who
were close to it, you know, there was a constant
drip of bad news and bad juju coming out of
training camp, and you know, maybe you just don't see
it because it's not a catastrophe like Burrow getting hurt
last year, but it was you know, I thought pretty apparent, Hey,
it's week one and stuff weird stuff always happens in

(01:22:37):
week one, not necessarily indicative of the rest of the season.

Speaker 14 (01:22:40):
So you know, that was one aspect of it.

Speaker 15 (01:22:43):
And you know, all the guys who got hurt even
though they didn't really play in preseason, and obviously to
Higgins with the contract drama and then winds up getting
hurt on the cusp of the season, and the Jamar
Chase hold injury, as I like to say, you know,
you don't even know if he's going to play until
the day of the game, and then of course he's
not the same Jamar Chase we expect. And over everything else,

(01:23:03):
the rust of Joe Burrow not having played for nearly
a year, you had to expect he wasn't going to be,
you know, walk right back onto.

Speaker 14 (01:23:11):
The field and be the MVP we know and love.
So you know, you add all.

Speaker 15 (01:23:14):
That together, and the Patriots were going to play a
style that minimized mistakes, and they executed that to a
game plan.

Speaker 14 (01:23:22):
Let the Bengals beat themselves, and they were, you know,
really sloppy, as they.

Speaker 15 (01:23:25):
Tend to be in weak ones going through the whole
Zach Tayler era.

Speaker 14 (01:23:29):
You could just see the handwriting was on the wall.

Speaker 15 (01:23:32):
But you know, as we like to say, as Don
Draper once said, move forward.

Speaker 14 (01:23:36):
It will shock you how much this never happened. So
let's just move on.

Speaker 15 (01:23:41):
We're on to Kansas City, as somebody sort of yes said,
and you know, let's let's forget all about that debacle
on Sunday.

Speaker 3 (01:23:49):
We'll do our best.

Speaker 2 (01:23:50):
You reference in your piece experimentation on offense last week,
what from that can carry over to Sunday? And are
there areas where maybe they should try some experiments this week?

Speaker 7 (01:24:03):
Yeah?

Speaker 15 (01:24:03):
Well, you know what I was thinking about is that,
and we talked about this before the season never really started,
was that they have so many players of you know,
sort of unknown quantity or of equal quality that you know,
how they align their personnel was going to you know,
be a really interesting facet especially in the first month
of the season. And I think this is the time
that a lot of teams, not just the Bengals, use

(01:24:25):
to sort of mix and match guys and see what
works and what doesn't work. We know, eventually Burrow's going
to be Burrow and passing out of the shotgun in
three wide receiver sets is something they do well, but
you know, maybe they can do some other things well.
And one thing they actually did well on Sunday was
run the ball out of two tight end sets with Drew, Saple,
and Eric all on the field at the same time.

(01:24:46):
And I think, you know, going forward, I want to
establish a lot more of a physical presence than they
did on Sunday. For sure, that was like playing Patty
Cake and the Patriots were in a slap fight.

Speaker 14 (01:24:56):
You know, they just seeded the physical battle right away.

Speaker 15 (01:25:00):
And one way to get around that is by putting
two tight ends in the field and commit to playing
much more AFC North quote unquote football than they showed
this weekend that they've showed.

Speaker 5 (01:25:10):
Really for a while now.

Speaker 11 (01:25:12):
You know.

Speaker 15 (01:25:12):
Part of it is also the fact that a lot
of their big bodies that they were, you know, everybody
talked about the trenches, the trenches all off season. You know,
it's like we were going from the AFC North to
the Western Front in World War One.

Speaker 11 (01:25:23):
But you know, they.

Speaker 15 (01:25:24):
Drafted three guys to be big bodies, none of whom played,
so that was a bit they were a bit shorthanded
when it came to that. But you know, I think
overall we might see a transition this season from the
wide open, three wide receivers running down the field and
Burrow chucking it everywhere team that we all conjure up
when we think of the Bengals, and they might transition
a little bit to much more of a power team

(01:25:44):
or somewhat of a power team. And you get Amarus
MIM's back in there, and you run behind him with
a couple of tight ends, and you can look a
lot different and be a lot more in games. But
spaceically against Kansas City, they're gonna have probably have to
win that way.

Speaker 14 (01:25:56):
They're gonna have to.

Speaker 15 (01:25:57):
Play like the Patriots played against Cincinnati again this week.
With that high flying offense on the other side of
the field. They're going to have to try and create
a game where they shortened it, minimize possessions for the
Kansas City and hope they beat themselves, which you know
they're capable of doing too, and minimize those mistakes. One
way to do that is by going to more of

(01:26:17):
twelve personnel.

Speaker 2 (01:26:18):
In my mind, when they did throw it last week,
not not to keep harkening back to last week, but
when they did throw it last week, all the short passes.
They were completed, but they didn't result in yards after
the catch. Usually guy would catch a pass get tackled
almost instantly, sometimes right before the sticks in a critical situation.

(01:26:39):
Why was that? Why couldn't anybody anybody get open? And
why the rather startling lack of yards after the catch?

Speaker 15 (01:26:48):
Yeah, well, first and foremost, I think you do have
to give some credit to New England. They played a
very good game defensively. Their secondary was excellent, they covered well,
they rallied to the ball, and they played a lot
of too safety, which we talked about a lot. And
when the Bengals played their three wides, it's incumbent upon
them to be able to run the ball.

Speaker 14 (01:27:06):
So you can run them out.

Speaker 15 (01:27:07):
Of those two high safety looks and get them in
a position where they can't all just race to the
football as soon as somebody catches it.

Speaker 14 (01:27:15):
And the Bengals were not able to do that.

Speaker 15 (01:27:16):
They didn't respect the run and so they could play,
you know, in their classic sort of picket fence style,
wait for.

Speaker 14 (01:27:22):
The short pass and then all race to the ball
and make the tackles that the Bengals did not.

Speaker 15 (01:27:26):
The Bengals had fourteen miss tackles, and I think the
Patriots had two.

Speaker 14 (01:27:30):
That's part of the story of the game right there.

Speaker 15 (01:27:33):
You know, guys were open and Burrow, like we talked about,
whether it was rust or not trusting his wrist yet
or whatever the case was, he was jittery. He didn't
take a lot of chances down the field, he didn't
step into throws a lot, and his eyes were down instead.

Speaker 14 (01:27:46):
Of up, which is something we're not used to seeing.

Speaker 15 (01:27:48):
So I think in a lot of cases, it was,
you know, sort of a one off. It wasn't necessarily
something that you're going to see down the line. Assuming
Burrow returns to being Burrow and the way he normally plays,
he'll take chances a lot, he'll throw the ball in
the tight windows, as we know, he'll you know, throw
guys open, things that he didn't do really much of last.

Speaker 14 (01:28:07):
Week, and that was part of the game plan.

Speaker 15 (01:28:08):
Apparently they wanted to play it safe a little bit
for week one and it came back to bite him.
But you know, I think that'll change a little bit
at going forward as well.

Speaker 2 (01:28:16):
Robert wintrob his weekly Bengals column Read It Now Cincinnati
Magazine dot Com. The Chiefs are interesting. They're always interesting,
but from this perspective, you know, when this Mahomes run started,
watching them as a blast because it was just guys
streaking down the field and him using his arm strength
to take advantage. And then in recent years it's it's

(01:28:37):
been a little bit different and in fact, and you know,
there have been times where it's taken maybe a while
for the players to adjust where their offense was a
lot more tight end oriented, short pass oriented and sort
of dependent upon maybe Patrick having to improvise. It feels
like now they've meshed the two. It feels like a
pick your poison offense, which is scary for anybody in particular,

(01:29:01):
I think a scary proposition when you consider the retooling
in the secondary. We've all been talking about this, right Like,
at some point those guys in the secondary, Dax Hill
maybe in particular, they're gonna be tested, gonna be tested
on Sunday. Do you think they're up to the task.

Speaker 15 (01:29:16):
Well, Before I think about that, I really think about
the pass rush first and foremost, because you know, there's
always the debate what's more important in past defense the
pass rush or good secondary play, And I usually come
down on the pass rush side, especially when you don't
really have any outside of Trey Hendrickson, and I think
that was a big element to the game last week
as well.

Speaker 14 (01:29:37):
Hendrickson was phenomenal.

Speaker 15 (01:29:38):
Actually, he had a forty pass rush win.

Speaker 14 (01:29:41):
Rate, which is very high to the mathematically challenged, but
he was just.

Speaker 15 (01:29:45):
You know, millisecond bay from sex on multiple occasions with
any one of them.

Speaker 14 (01:29:50):
That he gets.

Speaker 15 (01:29:50):
Maybe the Bengals pull that game out force to turnover,
who knows, But the main issue was the fact that
nobody else got any pressure. And you can't beat Pat
Mahomes that way. As we know, he's gonna have to
get in.

Speaker 14 (01:30:01):
This space more.

Speaker 15 (01:30:02):
Somebody besides Hendrickson is gonna have to get to him.
Joe Sai has to step up his game, Sam Hubbard.
You know Sheldon Rankins they brought in to be this
pass rusher on the inside, and he was dominated by
Michael Jordan of all people, this guy that we couldn't
make out of town.

Speaker 14 (01:30:16):
It's terrible. He did a good job against rank and deal.

Speaker 15 (01:30:20):
Hopefully a veteran Mike Sheldon will step it up next week.

Speaker 14 (01:30:23):
But your point is made. I mean, yes, they will
be tested.

Speaker 15 (01:30:27):
Kansas City does have an explosive offense they always have.
They had got away with sort of as you mentioned,
sort of less firepower of an offense, kind of the
way the Bengals they won the way the Bengals played
on Sunday, a lot of short passes, a lot of
timing the differences they made other guys miss and they
made crucial plays on third and fourth down and short

(01:30:48):
when they had to.

Speaker 14 (01:30:49):
And that's, you know, sort of Pat Mahomes is brilliance.

Speaker 15 (01:30:52):
He gets all the credit for being this high flying,
bombs away quarterback, but he makes the little throws and
extremely consistently. And you know, I think the secondary surely
is capable of at least holding down that offense and
staying with their guys.

Speaker 14 (01:31:07):
But if you give the Mahomes a lot of time.

Speaker 15 (01:31:09):
To throw, I don't care who you're putting out there,
Dick Knight, Train Lane and dalr Revas as your cornerbacks,
they're going to be eventually.

Speaker 14 (01:31:16):
Because you know, there's just too much time to throw.

Speaker 15 (01:31:19):
So to me, it's more about getting heat on the
homes than worrying too much about the secondary.

Speaker 5 (01:31:24):
I don't think they you know, they they.

Speaker 15 (01:31:26):
Weren't particularly out of position, which is what we saw
a lot last year. This year they played on Sunday.
They played much more of a positional game. You know,
can credit Von Bell in part to that and Geno
Stone at the safety positions the newcomers. So I think,
you know, that'll only get better and more cohesive as
they get you know, time together.

Speaker 5 (01:31:45):
But they got to.

Speaker 15 (01:31:45):
Get some pressure on the quarnerback. It's just it can't
all betray. That's going to be a thing to watch
going forward all season.

Speaker 2 (01:31:52):
Robert appealing to the younger audience with a contemporary reference
of Dick Knight train Lane.

Speaker 13 (01:31:57):
Yea week it was all about tray Flowers.

Speaker 16 (01:32:01):
This week, I'm going to the hall seventy years ago.

Speaker 3 (01:32:06):
I'll take it. We'll do it again next week.

Speaker 15 (01:32:09):
Thank you as always, absolutely mode looking forward to it
hopefully off a w.

Speaker 2 (01:32:13):
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This is ESPN fifteen thirty. M Oeggar, Thank you for
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FC Cincinnati is home for Columbus. You know, with the
end of the League's Cup and then the international break,
they just haven't played as much recently, but last game
they did take care of a Montreal team that was

(01:34:49):
there for the taking. And now the resumption of the
hell Is Reel rivalry, obviously a rematch of the Eastern
Conference Final last year. It's going to be raucus on
Saturday evening at TQL Stadium. You can watch them at
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Speaker 3 (01:35:03):
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You can get rest of the regular season and the
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Saturday nights match as FC Cincinnati host Columbus. The great
Taylor Twelman on the call from TQL Stadium and kind
enough to give us a few minutes this after Now,
I'll tell you what as as sporting events go, you
have two teams next to each other on the table,

(01:35:25):
you have a geographic rivalry, you have a playoff rematch,
you have great players on the field, tons of storylines.

Speaker 3 (01:35:31):
You can't ask for much.

Speaker 16 (01:35:32):
Better, No, you cannot.

Speaker 13 (01:35:35):
I think it's one of the best things that has
happened to this league. I think FC Cincinnati first and foremost,
coming into the league, building the stadium, now building the
team that the fans desperately wanted at the beginning, and
how successful they've been, you know, whether it's Patnon and
Chris Halbrett, they've done a fantastic job. And then on
top of that, Columbus, you know, stylistically one of the

(01:35:57):
best teams to watch in this league. You're talking about
the game of the years satur th Night.

Speaker 2 (01:36:02):
Yeah, I feel like it's the game of the year,
and it's a great rivalry. I feel like to a
degree because of how good FC Cincinnati was. You think
back a year ago, I mean, the Eastern Conference was
all that wrapped up, they were streaking toward the Supporter Shield.
I feel like I've had to remind people as they
sit in second place in the East that this team
is actually still really, really good and they still have

(01:36:25):
a chance to win a championship. Are we perhaps unfairly
comparing what we saw last year to this year?

Speaker 13 (01:36:33):
No, I don't think you are. I mean you got
to also remember you won the Supporter Shield last year,
but you lost the US Open Cup semifinal at home,
you lost the Eastern Conference finals. So I understand there's
a little bit of, for lack of a better word,
trepidation about getting your hopes up this year.

Speaker 11 (01:36:48):
I agree with you.

Speaker 13 (01:36:49):
I don't think this year has been nearly as down,
for lack of a better word, compared to last year.
Is it going to be different? Absolutely, But you lose
Matt me good for the season. You've had to deal
with some real injuries. Bu Penza didn't pan out, so
they had to move on from him. And yet you're
talking about a game on Saturday that if they win,

(01:37:10):
they're in the driver's seats to be the second seed
to eat which who knows if Miami slips up.

Speaker 7 (01:37:15):
In the playoffs.

Speaker 13 (01:37:16):
Now you're in control, and so I just think Cincinnati,
I think Zach group, that locker room, that technical staff,
the ownership. There's a little chip on the shoulder because
they didn't win last year and represent the Eastern Conference
and MLF Cup, and they lost to their bitter rivals.
So I think Saturday is special. I think the game
they played at Columbus showed you that there's a little

(01:37:39):
bit more I would say, eagerness to write the ship
for lack of a better word, and make up for
what happened last year. I expect the same Saturday night.

Speaker 2 (01:37:50):
I think whenever you're handicapping a playoff field or you know,
in any sport, maybe it's a conference or a division
you're looking for. Okay, what are a team's fatal flaw
and could they catch up to that team? And I
think with FC Cincinnati, it's it's the back line, it's
center back. They've had injuries, they've had players not available.
How much should we worry about that part of the team.

Speaker 13 (01:38:13):
I think it's a concern. In my job is to
be as honest and transparent. Some of your listeners won't
appreciate that. I think it's a concern. I think if
you actually that one on one, the Pat Nonon need
be completely honest with you. And it's not a detriment
to the players that are on the roster. It's just
a detriment too. When you lose that many players day injury,

(01:38:33):
it's difficult to replace them.

Speaker 7 (01:38:34):
Now insane that I.

Speaker 13 (01:38:36):
Think it's more important that Luciano Acostic. It's back to
the form that the reigning MVP needs to get at.
I think Pat Nonon in this group could actually win
games three, two, four to three if they have to,
But the only way to do that is is the
reigning MVP returning to that form. So is there concern
about the back line, Sure, but there's better in leadership.

(01:38:57):
I think Yeplin is the player you can count on
it he stays healthy.

Speaker 5 (01:39:01):
I think the.

Speaker 13 (01:39:01):
Bigger concern, and I know this is a little while
to say, is Luciano Alcosta. Where is he mentally? Where
is he physically? And can he carry this team? No
one's ever won the MVP back to back. I think
he goes on a little bit of a run here
in the last five six games. He's got a good
argument to that.

Speaker 3 (01:39:18):
To that case well, And it's interesting. Taylor Twelman is
with us.

Speaker 2 (01:39:21):
He has the game on Apple TV part of MLS
Season Pass on Saturday night. It's interesting because early in
the season, I think a lot of us wondered, you
know what, maybe maybe they're asking him to do a
little bit too much. But he was up to the
task and so if he's worrying needs to be physically
and mentally. I have no doubt in my mind. If
they they if they ride him, if they if they

(01:39:42):
ask him to absolutely say, carry him to a championship.
I think he's up to the task.

Speaker 13 (01:39:47):
No, absolutely, You're right. The heater your number one starter
for the revs, for the reds is throwing seven innings
every game, and you ride it. You absolutely ride your horse.
You ride your horses, you pay them to be the horses.
And I could not agree with you more a cost
is fit and mentally there than absolutely right him because
everyone else is a little bit better when he's playing

(01:40:08):
at that level. And you've just signed Joe Akini and
I know you haven't seen enough of him, but he's
another guy that scored goals for Saint Louis, who knows
what you get out of him. But Acosta is the
key here because I do think there is concern that
the team that won twenty plus games one nil, one
goal games, whatever it is, I don't know if they
can do that now. Now you need your horse to

(01:40:30):
show up, and that's got to be number ten.

Speaker 2 (01:40:33):
I love your analysis, although you reference something I haven't
seen on a consistent basis in a while, and that's
that's a Red starting pitcher going seven innings.

Speaker 3 (01:40:40):
So I don't know what you're talking about.

Speaker 13 (01:40:42):
By the way, the old baseball guy and me, you know,
any pitcher that throws sixty five pitches, they got to
get him out.

Speaker 16 (01:40:49):
Restler probably don't eat that rap role.

Speaker 13 (01:40:52):
I hate watching baseball because of that Roger Clemmons in
this day and age, or Jack Morris in the World Series,
they would know they would never pitch half the fifth inning.

Speaker 7 (01:41:05):
What's the point?

Speaker 2 (01:41:07):
Yeah, I mean I was telling a younger fan, like,
I'm old enough to remember watching Jack Morris pitch in
the tenth inning of a Game seven of a World Series,
and like, shake off the pitching coach when he came out.
You are you are speaking to my heart. This is
gonna be a lot of fun. I hope you have
a blast when you're in town. The atmosphere on Saturday
is going to be off the hook, and I hope
the game lives up to the billing. Thank you for

(01:41:28):
doing this, Taylor, much appreciate it.

Speaker 13 (01:41:30):
Oh, I think it will TQO Stadium best stadium.

Speaker 11 (01:41:32):
In the league.

Speaker 3 (01:41:34):
There you go, Taylor twelveman.

Speaker 2 (01:41:35):
How about that Saturday night seven thirty MLS season pass
and again worth mentioning, you can get rest of the season,
including the playoffs for just nine to ninety nine.

Speaker 3 (01:41:44):
You cannot beat that.

Speaker 2 (01:41:45):
Seven point thirty is the kickofft tql FC Cincinnati hosting Columbus,
separated by two points for between second and third place
in the Eastern Conference of Major League Soccer. It is
eight away from six o'clock. And by the way, the
game on Saturday on the radio is on Fox Sports
thirteen sixty because we've got UK football on Saturday night.

Speaker 3 (01:42:10):
Which you talk about.

Speaker 2 (01:42:12):
You talk about a fan base that should be feeling
anxious after the way they played again in South Carolina, Georgia.

Speaker 3 (01:42:19):
Music means we are done. Don't forget.

Speaker 2 (01:42:22):
Bengals pep rally will be on tomorrow in this show's
place from three to six.

Speaker 3 (01:42:27):
But you know what, I'm still gonna work tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (01:42:30):
I'm in for Lance six to seven thirty Tomorrow night
on a seven hundred WLW before Red's Cardinals or no
before Reds Twins.

Speaker 3 (01:42:38):
Reds feel like.

Speaker 2 (01:42:39):
They've been on the road for like a month, excuse
me a month and a half. Anything you might have
missed go get it on the iHeartRadio app.

Speaker 3 (01:42:45):
Don't forget.

Speaker 2 (01:42:45):
We're at Dickman's on Sunday for the game. We hope
you join us, and hope you join us on Saturday
for UC football. I've got the pregame show starting at
eleven on seven hundred WLW. I've plugged everything I can
plug thanks to terror Bland, Terror Bland.

Speaker 3 (01:43:00):
Today is September the twelfth.

Speaker 2 (01:43:01):
His birthday was on the twenty fifth, and eighteen days
after his birthday, I finally game his birthday present today.
It's kind a friend I am. Thank you for listening.
If I don't talk to you, have a great weekend.
Don't forget. Since E three sixty tomorrow is Friday, Football
Frenzy'd be there at noon.

Speaker 3 (01:43:18):
We'll see you.

Speaker 2 (01:43:18):
This is ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

Speaker 3 (01:43:29):
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