September 25, 2024 • 7 mins
Richard Skinner from Local 12 joined us to discuss the Cincinnati Bengals. You can probably guess the things we discussed.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Richard Skinner's with us from Local twelve and Local twelve
dot com and on x at Local twelve. Skinny, I
want to start with this to piggyback off the last
topic you and I discussed last week. Do you think
that game on Monday was Mark Stube's worst nightmare because
there were no punts.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
That's perfectly played perfectly, But no, I think this. I
think that was Luyna Rumo's worst nightmare. The other team,
not twenty.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
Yeah, that's my worst nightmare watching it. Like the personnel
is what it is, and yeah, you get Sheldon Rankins back,
and you can get bj Hill back and those guys
will help. But like they're gonna have to win in
spite of the defense, can they?
Speaker 2 (00:47):
And the one they would say is that in maybe
shame with me for rightness, because I really thought that
they had taken a nice step forward in the Kansas
City game, like they were getting back to being at
least a playoff caliber defense, and they played that way.
You know, Monday, the two tackles were horrifyingly bad. And
truth this is not the making exuase playing stretch. I
mean you were playing with two tackles that if things
(01:08):
were perfect going into this year, just without the injuries,
would be inactive, they wouldn't even be on the active
roster for game day. So you pray with that. But
the other parts that were just a little bit dis centered.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
Like guys running wide open in the middle of the field,
guys getting beat in man coverage in key moments, and
quite frankly, and I don't know how much you've talked
about this mode, but I talked to Luandarom a little
bit about this day.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
I asked Zach and the pres commas a little bit
about this, and I kind of soft shoot it a
little And Sam Huller didn't play worth a darn, I mean,
and that's that's an understatement. And maybe it's still health related,
you know, maybe he's still working his way back from
the injury from training camp. But you know, that was
a guy who always could rely on doing the right thing,
making the right play, never being flashy, but he get
his sack here and there, always great against the run,
(01:51):
and he was horrifyingly bad. I know I didn't see
this number. Dan Horg shared it with me. I'm sure
you've seen it. I mean, he was the worst rated
defensive line in the league from PFF last like not
just number sixty out of tour twenty forty was the
worst and you can't have that. The problem is the
backup Joseph O Sidi didn't do anything and now you're
down to can't wait till Miles Worthy gets back? Well
(02:12):
will we get back? And you know what were your
record be at that point?
Speaker 3 (02:16):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (02:17):
You know you talk about guys being open. I mean
there was like a fourth and four play to Zach
Ertz where there wasn't a guy within the same area code.
And these are like I've you've you've watched every snap
of lou An Rumo's time as defensive coordinator. Sometimes guys
make individual plays and it happens, and sometimes the other
team is just better and they have too many dudes
(02:38):
and it happens. There have been that many times, especially
since twenty twenty one, where I felt like they're not
in the right place, they're unprepared, they're slow. Like the
things we saw on Monday were so uncharacteristic that there's
a part of me that wants to go, Okay, that's
not who they are. But I look at who they
have on the field and I fear that that's that
(02:59):
this is what they are, or at least to a
small degree.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
Yeah, and that's again I probably overstated after the King
of the City game. I feel like a fool for
right what I wrote, because I really thought, okay, I
got to throw the game out a little bit. But
you still can't discount that they only held that team
to thirteen points defensively, that is, and you know, you
hold Pat Mahomes to his second bush yardage ever, and
it wasn't because pack didn't have all those weapons around him.
He had all those weapons other than Hollywood Brown, but
(03:23):
he still had some really good weapons around him. And
they did that, and I thought, okay, yeah, von Belt
does make that big of a difference. Then I watch
Von Bell the other night and he looks like a
thirty year old safety playing out there. And that's where
all these wounds get reopened of last year. That again, yeah,
the tackles will help significantly when they return. I don't
know when that is because they didn't practice today. So
(03:45):
you do have to right wrong, You're gonna have to
figure out a way to scheme around that probably in
this game too, if not having your.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
Tackles, so Von Bell is not going to get any younger.
He's not going to get any faster. Why don't they
give Jordan battle a try.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Whatever reason he's he's fall out of disfavor. I asked
Loud that last week and he said, no, there's time
for Jordan to play, because I the question was asking
fans were wondering, you know, why wasn't Jordan battling on
the play Dejon Anthony, you know the pass interference penalty,
and he said, listen to John, just arrange your guy.
Uh more of a coverage guy at Jordan's more of
an in the box guy. And that, to me is
(04:21):
kind of damning praise. And I think the point being
that they just don't trust him to play over Von
at the moment. I think in a perfect world, the
way this year would have would have involved was Bond
plays early. Uh, Von gets everybody settled on the defense
to where everybody knows everything, and then eventually Jordan slides
into that role. And that still could take place, but
(04:41):
it's almost to the point now where you know, maybe
you go one more game here and then you have
to say, all right, we have to make some personnel changes.
That was asked to both Ru and Zach today. And
they weren't ready for whole steale personnel changes. But I mean,
if you haven't, let's just say, even if they win,
it's a crazy score for seven. And the defensives I
get looked on on Monday night. You got to really
(05:03):
think long and hard about some personal changes you have
to make on that defense.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
If if you play tackle for the Carolina Panthers, are
you spending part of the week practicing your touchdown dance?
Speaker 2 (05:15):
You have to. I mean the Bengals, actually, this was
a great set they are. They are one of only
six teams to allow an offensive lineman to score a
touchdown in back to back game since nineteen forty three,
one of only six. Both those plays, and both of
those plays, those dudes were wide open. It was almost
like they didn't report as eligible. And it was almost like,
(05:35):
wait a minute, how did number sixty something get out there? Oh,
that's what that referee meant by such and such report
as eligible. Seventy three report as eligible. We were supposed
to cover that guy.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
Yeah, I mean they do announce that he's eligible, which
you know certainly doesn't guarantee that he's going to catch
the ball, but would would at least to me, at
least make the clue phone go off. Uh, Jamar Chase
is on the injury report Limited with a shoulder issue.
How concerned should we be.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
It's a great question because it came after the press conference.
Obviously it came before they actually officially practiced, because it's
a walkthrough. He was there, he was not in uniform,
but again it was a walkthrough. I think it's worth
monitoring tomorrow to see where that's at. I think the
Limited Porsche is certainly better than d n P, which
would have been I think, a bad sign. Today. I
(06:23):
think the Limited is at least a sign of it.
It's something manageable. But tomorrow is certainly the litmus test
to see in a full practice when they have a
regular practice, if he goes, and how much he goes.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
You know, the the Commanders the other night, I mean
they they barely got to third down, right, everything was started. One.
Do you think if Stoops was coaching that team that
he would have like just called a third down punt
just to satisfy his own cravings?
Speaker 2 (06:48):
Yeah, good third and two. Everybody likes a good third
and two. Quick character, nobody hates Nobody hates those things. Mollard.
It's about you know, you know it is, Martin Lucy
is all about field position. That's what this game's all about,
you know, that field which seems to love that.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
Yeah, he sure does. All right man, Thank you as always.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
You bet take her
Richard Skinner's with us from Local twelve and Local twelve
dot com and on x at Local twelve. Skinny, I
want to start with this to piggyback off the last
topic you and I discussed last week. Do you think
that game on Monday was Mark Stube's worst nightmare because
there were no punts.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
That's perfectly played perfectly, But no, I think this. I
think that was Luyna Rumo's worst nightmare. The other team,
not twenty.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
Yeah, that's my worst nightmare watching it. Like the personnel
is what it is, and yeah, you get Sheldon Rankins back,
and you can get bj Hill back and those guys
will help. But like they're gonna have to win in
spite of the defense, can they?
Speaker 2 (00:47):
And the one they would say is that in maybe
shame with me for rightness, because I really thought that
they had taken a nice step forward in the Kansas
City game, like they were getting back to being at
least a playoff caliber defense, and they played that way.
You know, Monday, the two tackles were horrifyingly bad. And
truth this is not the making exuase playing stretch. I
mean you were playing with two tackles that if things
(01:08):
were perfect going into this year, just without the injuries,
would be inactive, they wouldn't even be on the active
roster for game day. So you pray with that. But
the other parts that were just a little bit dis centered.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
Like guys running wide open in the middle of the field,
guys getting beat in man coverage in key moments, and
quite frankly, and I don't know how much you've talked
about this mode, but I talked to Luandarom a little
bit about this day.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
I asked Zach and the pres commas a little bit
about this, and I kind of soft shoot it a
little And Sam Huller didn't play worth a darn, I mean,
and that's that's an understatement. And maybe it's still health related,
you know, maybe he's still working his way back from
the injury from training camp. But you know, that was
a guy who always could rely on doing the right thing,
making the right play, never being flashy, but he get
his sack here and there, always great against the run,
(01:51):
and he was horrifyingly bad. I know I didn't see
this number. Dan Horg shared it with me. I'm sure
you've seen it. I mean, he was the worst rated
defensive line in the league from PFF last like not
just number sixty out of tour twenty forty was the
worst and you can't have that. The problem is the
backup Joseph O Sidi didn't do anything and now you're
down to can't wait till Miles Worthy gets back? Well
(02:12):
will we get back? And you know what were your
record be at that point?
Speaker 3 (02:16):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (02:17):
You know you talk about guys being open. I mean
there was like a fourth and four play to Zach
Ertz where there wasn't a guy within the same area code.
And these are like I've you've you've watched every snap
of lou An Rumo's time as defensive coordinator. Sometimes guys
make individual plays and it happens, and sometimes the other
team is just better and they have too many dudes
(02:38):
and it happens. There have been that many times, especially
since twenty twenty one, where I felt like they're not
in the right place, they're unprepared, they're slow. Like the
things we saw on Monday were so uncharacteristic that there's
a part of me that wants to go, Okay, that's
not who they are. But I look at who they
have on the field and I fear that that's that
(02:59):
this is what they are, or at least to a
small degree.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
Yeah, and that's again I probably overstated after the King
of the City game. I feel like a fool for
right what I wrote, because I really thought, okay, I
got to throw the game out a little bit. But
you still can't discount that they only held that team
to thirteen points defensively, that is, and you know, you
hold Pat Mahomes to his second bush yardage ever, and
it wasn't because pack didn't have all those weapons around him.
He had all those weapons other than Hollywood Brown, but
(03:23):
he still had some really good weapons around him. And
they did that, and I thought, okay, yeah, von Belt
does make that big of a difference. Then I watch
Von Bell the other night and he looks like a
thirty year old safety playing out there. And that's where
all these wounds get reopened of last year. That again, yeah,
the tackles will help significantly when they return. I don't
know when that is because they didn't practice today. So
(03:45):
you do have to right wrong, You're gonna have to
figure out a way to scheme around that probably in
this game too, if not having your.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
Tackles, so Von Bell is not going to get any younger.
He's not going to get any faster. Why don't they
give Jordan battle a try.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Whatever reason he's he's fall out of disfavor. I asked
Loud that last week and he said, no, there's time
for Jordan to play, because I the question was asking
fans were wondering, you know, why wasn't Jordan battling on
the play Dejon Anthony, you know the pass interference penalty,
and he said, listen to John, just arrange your guy.
Uh more of a coverage guy at Jordan's more of
an in the box guy. And that, to me is
(04:21):
kind of damning praise. And I think the point being
that they just don't trust him to play over Von
at the moment. I think in a perfect world, the
way this year would have would have involved was Bond
plays early. Uh, Von gets everybody settled on the defense
to where everybody knows everything, and then eventually Jordan slides
into that role. And that still could take place, but
(04:41):
it's almost to the point now where you know, maybe
you go one more game here and then you have
to say, all right, we have to make some personnel changes.
That was asked to both Ru and Zach today. And
they weren't ready for whole steale personnel changes. But I mean,
if you haven't, let's just say, even if they win,
it's a crazy score for seven. And the defensives I
get looked on on Monday night. You got to really
(05:03):
think long and hard about some personal changes you have
to make on that defense.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
If if you play tackle for the Carolina Panthers, are
you spending part of the week practicing your touchdown dance?
Speaker 2 (05:15):
You have to. I mean the Bengals, actually, this was
a great set they are. They are one of only
six teams to allow an offensive lineman to score a
touchdown in back to back game since nineteen forty three,
one of only six. Both those plays, and both of
those plays, those dudes were wide open. It was almost
like they didn't report as eligible. And it was almost like,
(05:35):
wait a minute, how did number sixty something get out there? Oh,
that's what that referee meant by such and such report
as eligible. Seventy three report as eligible. We were supposed
to cover that guy.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
Yeah, I mean they do announce that he's eligible, which
you know certainly doesn't guarantee that he's going to catch
the ball, but would would at least to me, at
least make the clue phone go off. Uh, Jamar Chase
is on the injury report Limited with a shoulder issue.
How concerned should we be.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
It's a great question because it came after the press conference.
Obviously it came before they actually officially practiced, because it's
a walkthrough. He was there, he was not in uniform,
but again it was a walkthrough. I think it's worth
monitoring tomorrow to see where that's at. I think the
Limited Porsche is certainly better than d n P, which
would have been I think, a bad sign. Today. I
(06:23):
think the Limited is at least a sign of it.
It's something manageable. But tomorrow is certainly the litmus test
to see in a full practice when they have a
regular practice, if he goes, and how much he goes.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
You know, the the Commanders the other night, I mean
they they barely got to third down, right, everything was started. One.
Do you think if Stoops was coaching that team that
he would have like just called a third down punt
just to satisfy his own cravings?
Speaker 2 (06:48):
Yeah, good third and two. Everybody likes a good third
and two. Quick character, nobody hates Nobody hates those things. Mollard.
It's about you know, you know it is, Martin Lucy
is all about field position. That's what this game's all about,
you know, that field which seems to love that.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
Yeah, he sure does. All right man, Thank you as always.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
You bet take her
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