October 3, 2024 • 7 mins
Dr. John Fritch from OrthoCincy joined us to discuss Trey Hendrickson's stinger, as well as a scary-looking scene involving Broncos running back Tyler Badie, and the prognosis for an injury suffered by one of the the Bengals' biggest rivals.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's Wednesday, which means we talk injuries, mainly NFL injuries
with one of the experts from Orthos since he the
great thing about Orthos, since he is they have specialists
and locations across the Tri State and they offer walk
in orthopedic urgent care weekdays from nine am to nine
pm and Saturday's nine am to one pm. Learn more
at orthosinc dot com. That's Ortho ci NCY dot com.
(00:23):
Doctor Fritz. Let me start with Trey Hendrickson. So, he
suffered what they call a stinger on Sunday and he's
walking off the field on his own power, but he
had this facial expression that looked like a half cry
and a half guy in agony. He looked like he
was in some pain. After the game, it's reported his
(00:44):
arm is in a sling. He is back and he's
at least doing some practice work, which is a good thing.
But let's start with this. What's a next stinger?
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Yeah? Absolutely, Yeah, I was watching the same thing myself,
and yeah, the look on his face made me a
little worried, but after they said it was the stinger,
a little more reassuring. So stingers are pretty common injuries
and football usually a direct below the shoulder to stretch
injury to the nerves as they exit your neck and
go into your arm, and it caused sort of this
(01:13):
temporary numbness, tangling, burning, stinging, that's what I would call it.
A stinger usually resolves after a few minutes, but it
can last a little longer sometimes, and so fortunately, if
that's what he was dealing with, we should hopefully see
him back and play here soon.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
Are there different levels or grades of stingers.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Not that I'm aware of. We don't have any particular
grading process. It's just in the vast majority of them
do resolve quickly, but certain ones we've seen where they
can have some residual symptoms for a few days and
can take a little longer resolve, particularly with the weakness,
and with these types of injuries, usually with a high
(01:55):
level athlete like Gray, we don't want him back playing
until he's backed and normal then, so it may just
take them.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
A little while.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Are there ever instances where a stinger turns into something
maybe a little bit more severe.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Not that I've personally encountered, but certainly anytime you're dealing
with the neac.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
You worry, hey, is this.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
A more serious injury. Is this contusion to the spinal cord.
Is this a contusion to the breakial plexus, which is
the network of nerves that go into your arm. Is
this a discarnation in the neck? Those would be things
to look into if he doesn't resolve. But based on
what I've heard so far, sounds like a stinger.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
All right. Now, One more as it relates to this,
Why would his arm be in a sling if he's
dealing with a neck injury.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Yeah, And so initially, when you first have a stinger,
those nerves aren't working right as they're going into your hand,
and it can cost some weakness so that you're not
able to hold your arm up even And so my
guess is they put them into a sling for comfort purposes,
because when you can't hold your arm up because of weakness,
it's kind of uncomfortable to kind of drag along with you.
So they may have just put him in a swing
(03:02):
temporarily until his arm wokes back up.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
There was a scary injury in the game involving Denver
in the New York Jets Broncos running back Tyler Bidet
gets tackled, fumbles the football that's neither here nor there,
and he leaves the field unto his own power, and
then he falls down on the sideline. He collapses, had
full movement of his extremities, but he's taken off the
field on a stretcher. There was no official diagnosis immediately
(03:29):
after the game. Walk me through the range of possibilities
that we're dealing with here when it comes to an
injury that initially he could walk off the field on
his own power through and then ultimately had him coming
off on a stretcher.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
Yeah, absolutely, so I'm going to have to speculate a
little bit here. The fact that he was moving his
arms and legs is reassuring that hopefully no spinal cord injury. Obviously,
that's the devastating thing, and we want to be sure
he's not dealing with that. But I mean, in the
wide range of things that could have happen doing he
could have had a bad contusion to the back or
a big bruise. Essentially, could have had a back fracture.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
I certainly hope not, but based on his position and
things going on, it's a possibility could have had a
discarnation causing pain, or even a nerve injury.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
Other things. His internal organs could have had some issues
of bruises. I mean, he could have had an injury
to kidney or something else, and something that the medical
staff will have to take a look at could require
further lab testing imaging to rule a few things out.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
One more to ask you about Rashid Rice of the
Kansas City Chiefs. A tough injury for him and a
tough injury for that football team. So he was carted
off the field and Kansas City's went over the LA Chargers,
and the fear was immediately after the game that he
has suffered a season ending ACL tier. It was reported
on Monday that maybe the injury is not quite as
(04:55):
severe as everybody originally feared, but obviously he is still
expected to miss and extended period of time. ACL tear
seems to me to be pretty cut and dry, So
why is there uncertainty here?
Speaker 2 (05:07):
Yeah? Yeah, it was a little unusual, and it's particularly case,
especially after seeing the footage. Certainly an injury worries them
for an ACL tear usually, so ACL tears are definitively
diagnosed on MRI. My guess is he got an initial examination.
After an ACL tear, you can feel a little extra
(05:28):
play or looseness, but that exam isn't always one hundred
percent conclusive, and so we get the MRI to kind
of confirm that the ACL is torn or if there's
another injury going on.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
So could the delay in figuring out specifically what the
injury is impact the treatment and what's next.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
Certainly, but I think they should have definitive answers within
the scope of a few days. And so once he
does get an MRI and enough people have sort of
taken a look at it and offered their opinion, I
think they should hopefully have a great idea from the
MRI itself, Hey, is this an ACL pair or not?
Usually you can see on the MRI directly if those
(06:10):
fibers are stretched out of the ligament where if they're torn.
Also with an actual ACL tear, there's usually associated injury
patterns on that on the imaging findings, so you'll see
other subtle hints that the ACL has torn, like a
particular bone bruising pattern that can clee in. If that's
not present, then maybe they can rehab them a little sooner.
(06:30):
If they're assuming it's an ACL, spring.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
Makes sense awesome inside. As always, doctor John Fridge, Ortho Sinsey.
I appreciate the time in thank you so much. As always, Hey,
thanks for having me on MO anytime. Thank you doctor
John Fridge from Ortho Sincy. They are awesome. You know,
I took my bed a year ago my daughter broke
her foot instantly, just took an Ortho Sincy. We went
to the Anderson location because they have evening hours and
(06:57):
they took great care of her. Doctor John Fridge Specialists
locations all across the Try State. Walk into Orthopedic urgent
care weekdays nine to nine nine eight to nine p
Saturday's nine eight to one p in both Edgewood and Anderson.
It is easier than going to an er and it's
cheaper than going to an er as well. Whatever you
have an urgent orthopedic injury, just go to orthosinse dot com.
(07:17):
That's Ortho c I n c Y dot com
It's Wednesday, which means we talk injuries, mainly NFL injuries
with one of the experts from Orthos since he the
great thing about Orthos, since he is they have specialists
and locations across the Tri State and they offer walk
in orthopedic urgent care weekdays from nine am to nine
pm and Saturday's nine am to one pm. Learn more
at orthosinc dot com. That's Ortho ci NCY dot com.
(00:23):
Doctor Fritz. Let me start with Trey Hendrickson. So, he
suffered what they call a stinger on Sunday and he's
walking off the field on his own power, but he
had this facial expression that looked like a half cry
and a half guy in agony. He looked like he
was in some pain. After the game, it's reported his
(00:44):
arm is in a sling. He is back and he's
at least doing some practice work, which is a good thing.
But let's start with this. What's a next stinger?
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Yeah? Absolutely, Yeah, I was watching the same thing myself,
and yeah, the look on his face made me a
little worried, but after they said it was the stinger,
a little more reassuring. So stingers are pretty common injuries
and football usually a direct below the shoulder to stretch
injury to the nerves as they exit your neck and
go into your arm, and it caused sort of this
(01:13):
temporary numbness, tangling, burning, stinging, that's what I would call it.
A stinger usually resolves after a few minutes, but it
can last a little longer sometimes, and so fortunately, if
that's what he was dealing with, we should hopefully see
him back and play here soon.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
Are there different levels or grades of stingers.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Not that I'm aware of. We don't have any particular
grading process. It's just in the vast majority of them
do resolve quickly, but certain ones we've seen where they
can have some residual symptoms for a few days and
can take a little longer resolve, particularly with the weakness,
and with these types of injuries, usually with a high
(01:55):
level athlete like Gray, we don't want him back playing
until he's backed and normal then, so it may just
take them.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
A little while.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Are there ever instances where a stinger turns into something
maybe a little bit more severe.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Not that I've personally encountered, but certainly anytime you're dealing
with the neac.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
You worry, hey, is this.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
A more serious injury. Is this contusion to the spinal cord.
Is this a contusion to the breakial plexus, which is
the network of nerves that go into your arm. Is
this a discarnation in the neck? Those would be things
to look into if he doesn't resolve. But based on
what I've heard so far, sounds like a stinger.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
All right. Now, One more as it relates to this,
Why would his arm be in a sling if he's
dealing with a neck injury.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Yeah, And so initially, when you first have a stinger,
those nerves aren't working right as they're going into your hand,
and it can cost some weakness so that you're not
able to hold your arm up even And so my
guess is they put them into a sling for comfort purposes,
because when you can't hold your arm up because of weakness,
it's kind of uncomfortable to kind of drag along with you.
So they may have just put him in a swing
(03:02):
temporarily until his arm wokes back up.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
There was a scary injury in the game involving Denver
in the New York Jets Broncos running back Tyler Bidet
gets tackled, fumbles the football that's neither here nor there,
and he leaves the field unto his own power, and
then he falls down on the sideline. He collapses, had
full movement of his extremities, but he's taken off the
field on a stretcher. There was no official diagnosis immediately
(03:29):
after the game. Walk me through the range of possibilities
that we're dealing with here when it comes to an
injury that initially he could walk off the field on
his own power through and then ultimately had him coming
off on a stretcher.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
Yeah, absolutely, so I'm going to have to speculate a
little bit here. The fact that he was moving his
arms and legs is reassuring that hopefully no spinal cord injury. Obviously,
that's the devastating thing, and we want to be sure
he's not dealing with that. But I mean, in the
wide range of things that could have happen doing he
could have had a bad contusion to the back or
a big bruise. Essentially, could have had a back fracture.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
I certainly hope not, but based on his position and
things going on, it's a possibility could have had a
discarnation causing pain, or even a nerve injury.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
Other things. His internal organs could have had some issues
of bruises. I mean, he could have had an injury
to kidney or something else, and something that the medical
staff will have to take a look at could require
further lab testing imaging to rule a few things out.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
One more to ask you about Rashid Rice of the
Kansas City Chiefs. A tough injury for him and a
tough injury for that football team. So he was carted
off the field and Kansas City's went over the LA Chargers,
and the fear was immediately after the game that he
has suffered a season ending ACL tier. It was reported
on Monday that maybe the injury is not quite as
(04:55):
severe as everybody originally feared, but obviously he is still
expected to miss and extended period of time. ACL tear
seems to me to be pretty cut and dry, So
why is there uncertainty here?
Speaker 2 (05:07):
Yeah? Yeah, it was a little unusual, and it's particularly case,
especially after seeing the footage. Certainly an injury worries them
for an ACL tear usually, so ACL tears are definitively
diagnosed on MRI. My guess is he got an initial examination.
After an ACL tear, you can feel a little extra
(05:28):
play or looseness, but that exam isn't always one hundred
percent conclusive, and so we get the MRI to kind
of confirm that the ACL is torn or if there's
another injury going on.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
So could the delay in figuring out specifically what the
injury is impact the treatment and what's next.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
Certainly, but I think they should have definitive answers within
the scope of a few days. And so once he
does get an MRI and enough people have sort of
taken a look at it and offered their opinion, I
think they should hopefully have a great idea from the
MRI itself, Hey, is this an ACL pair or not?
Usually you can see on the MRI directly if those
(06:10):
fibers are stretched out of the ligament where if they're torn.
Also with an actual ACL tear, there's usually associated injury
patterns on that on the imaging findings, so you'll see
other subtle hints that the ACL has torn, like a
particular bone bruising pattern that can clee in. If that's
not present, then maybe they can rehab them a little sooner.
(06:30):
If they're assuming it's an ACL, spring.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
Makes sense awesome inside. As always, doctor John Fridge, Ortho Sinsey.
I appreciate the time in thank you so much. As always, Hey,
thanks for having me on MO anytime. Thank you doctor
John Fridge from Ortho Sincy. They are awesome. You know,
I took my bed a year ago my daughter broke
her foot instantly, just took an Ortho Sincy. We went
to the Anderson location because they have evening hours and
(06:57):
they took great care of her. Doctor John Fridge Specialists
locations all across the Try State. Walk into Orthopedic urgent
care weekdays nine to nine nine eight to nine p
Saturday's nine eight to one p in both Edgewood and Anderson.
It is easier than going to an er and it's
cheaper than going to an er as well. Whatever you
have an urgent orthopedic injury, just go to orthosinse dot com.
(07:17):
That's Ortho c I n c Y dot com
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